WEBVTT - Was that actually food poisoning? 0:00:00.200 --> 0:00:04.040 Hm, I'm Manny, I'm Noah. This is Devin, and welcome 0:00:04.040 --> 0:00:05.880 to no such thing, the show where we settle our 0:00:05.960 --> 0:00:09.280 dumb arguments and yours by actually doing the research. This 0:00:09.400 --> 0:00:16.040 week I attempt fate by asking, does food poisoning actually exist? I? 0:00:16.200 --> 0:00:21.920 No, there's no no such thing. No touch, thank touch, 0:00:22.360 --> 0:00:32.320 thank touch, thank touch, Thank so. 0:00:32.400 --> 0:00:36.320 This is a very old many no Devin discussion. Yeah, 0:00:36.360 --> 0:00:39.559 we've all heard the stories. Someone goes out to eat, 0:00:39.680 --> 0:00:41.600 then they're running to the bathroom, they're calling out of 0:00:41.640 --> 0:00:43.640 work sick. They say they have a bad case of 0:00:43.680 --> 0:00:49.080 food poisoning. Must have been the nachos, bad fish. Yeah, 0:00:49.200 --> 0:00:52.920 this has never happened to me. But now let me 0:00:52.960 --> 0:00:58.279 be clear, I don't have a particularly strong constitution. I'm 0:00:58.320 --> 0:01:01.240 also not very selective or picky where I eat. I'm 0:01:01.240 --> 0:01:04.520 not checking the health ratings on the board. Sure, so 0:01:06.000 --> 0:01:09.840 when I add these things up, food poisoning isn't real. 0:01:12.160 --> 0:01:15.479 Or let me let me sayund it's a thrown around 0:01:15.880 --> 0:01:18.120 altitude loosely for my liking. All right, if I need 0:01:18.160 --> 0:01:19.440 to be diplomatic. 0:01:19.440 --> 0:01:21.680 Were you're you're saying, we hear, we hear about food 0:01:21.720 --> 0:01:23.320 poisoning more often than it happens. 0:01:23.920 --> 0:01:25.160 I think, so I would. 0:01:24.959 --> 0:01:28.000 Agree with because people, if you're going to call out 0:01:28.000 --> 0:01:28.560 of work. 0:01:28.720 --> 0:01:31.440 It's the easiest excuse I have food poison You don't 0:01:31.480 --> 0:01:34.880 have to fake being sick beforehand to lead up to 0:01:35.000 --> 0:01:35.800 lying about it. 0:01:35.959 --> 0:01:39.080 Yeah, and you don't. You probably don't need to go 0:01:39.120 --> 0:01:39.679 to a doctor. 0:01:39.840 --> 0:01:42.559 No, probably because they're not going to do anything. 0:01:42.640 --> 0:01:42.840 No. 0:01:42.840 --> 0:01:45.319 No, Yeah, it's one day. You can come back the 0:01:45.319 --> 0:01:45.839 next day. 0:01:46.280 --> 0:01:52.200 So let's talk about actually being sick. What are your experiences. 0:01:52.200 --> 0:01:53.840 We don't need to get into details, but. 0:01:53.880 --> 0:01:55.720 Now we can get into details because this is what 0:01:55.840 --> 0:02:01.040 makes me so upset about saying I've had food poisoning 0:02:02.200 --> 0:02:03.200 two to three times. 0:02:03.440 --> 0:02:04.559 Okay, that's not a fact. 0:02:04.840 --> 0:02:07.040 No, or you know, you know, I feel he's going 0:02:07.080 --> 0:02:07.240 to be. 0:02:09.400 --> 0:02:12.000 There always, maybe every eight weeks. No, No, it's like, 0:02:12.240 --> 0:02:13.120 what are you doing now? 0:02:13.160 --> 0:02:13.359 Well? 0:02:13.880 --> 0:02:16.239 What makes me upset about you saying it's not real 0:02:16.360 --> 0:02:20.720 is that food poisoning is probably the worst sickness you 0:02:20.760 --> 0:02:22.640 can have, you know what, A feeling like I want 0:02:22.639 --> 0:02:26.560 to die, Yeah all the time, because I've gotten food poisoning. 0:02:28.360 --> 0:02:31.000 Sometimes when you're sick, it's like, oh I get to relax, Yeah, 0:02:31.080 --> 0:02:36.320 home watching It's just miserable. You have like the shakes. Yeah, 0:02:36.639 --> 0:02:39.560 I hate throwing up. It's the worst thing in the 0:02:39.600 --> 0:02:40.919 world throwing up. 0:02:41.240 --> 0:02:44.640 Oh wait, wait, we got to talk about this real quick. 0:02:44.960 --> 0:02:45.600 Growing up. 0:02:49.400 --> 0:02:50.840 I don't know what the hell this is about. 0:02:51.320 --> 0:02:51.800 Set it up. 0:02:51.840 --> 0:02:52.359 Growing up. 0:02:52.800 --> 0:02:57.920 As kids, sometimes you get sick and you gotta throw up. Yeah, man, 0:02:58.360 --> 0:02:59.880 when we throw out, what do we do? We get 0:03:00.080 --> 0:03:02.720 up and you go throw up? What are you throwing up? 0:03:02.760 --> 0:03:03.440 In the toilet? 0:03:03.720 --> 0:03:07.359 Okay, in the toilet, right, not in the sink. We're 0:03:07.360 --> 0:03:12.640 not getting things we cook with to throw up into. 0:03:12.720 --> 0:03:15.960 Some people get bowls or or pots. These are these 0:03:15.960 --> 0:03:18.000 are things that that they to hold. 0:03:17.720 --> 0:03:20.280 The vomit, yes, and then they put it in the toilet. 0:03:20.560 --> 0:03:22.120 Would be I don't know what they do with it. 0:03:22.160 --> 0:03:24.160 This is what it would be like. Let me speak 0:03:24.200 --> 0:03:26.600 for my probably eating it later. It would be like, okay, 0:03:26.639 --> 0:03:31.040 I have I have a tummy. Yeah, I'm six years old. Okay, 0:03:31.720 --> 0:03:35.120 I'm I'm I'm getting ready for bed, and then yeah, 0:03:35.120 --> 0:03:37.920 I'm gonna take the plastic bowl and that's gonna be 0:03:37.920 --> 0:03:41.400 my case. I might not make it to the bathroom. 0:03:41.600 --> 0:03:43.000 These are basically storage bowls. 0:03:44.680 --> 0:03:47.320 Okay, So let's break it down for these. 0:03:46.840 --> 0:03:48.600 Aren't like, it's not like a cereal bull. 0:03:49.000 --> 0:03:50.160 Okay, what is it? 0:03:49.640 --> 0:03:52.520 It's like a plastic What are you putting in it 0:03:52.520 --> 0:03:53.960 when you're not throwing up into it? 0:03:54.240 --> 0:03:58.280 Pretty much nothing? Honestly, other bowls like it's. 0:03:58.160 --> 0:03:59.920 So, this is the thing I've learned, but over the 0:04:00.040 --> 0:04:02.320 last couple of years is that in the white community, 0:04:02.400 --> 0:04:04.720 they throw up into containers that they event. 0:04:04.680 --> 0:04:07.080 It's not just it's a community. 0:04:07.160 --> 0:04:09.600 Yeah, they have like they're like, that's the that's the 0:04:09.640 --> 0:04:11.520 pot that we would throw up in and then also 0:04:11.560 --> 0:04:12.360 cook our stupid. 0:04:12.640 --> 0:04:14.320 It's interesting that the bull thing bothers you so much 0:04:14.360 --> 0:04:16.560 because it's like, you don't think it's you don't think 0:04:17.360 --> 0:04:19.360 someone can wash the ball, like you don't trust and 0:04:19.640 --> 0:04:20.080 I know that. 0:04:20.040 --> 0:04:22.280 People could wash the ball. I understand that. 0:04:22.240 --> 0:04:23.719 You people don't even wash their bodies. 0:04:23.960 --> 0:04:26.720 I know you can sanitize things. To me, it's just 0:04:26.800 --> 0:04:30.040 like there are other did you not have trash cans 0:04:30.080 --> 0:04:30.479 in your home? 0:04:30.839 --> 0:04:32.440 My mom would beat my ass if I throw up 0:04:32.480 --> 0:04:34.960 in a bowl. But I can understand this from the 0:04:34.960 --> 0:04:37.080 perspective of like it's easier to I'm gonna wake up 0:04:37.080 --> 0:04:38.800 and I'm about to throw up, and I need to 0:04:38.839 --> 0:04:40.760 turn okay, but not putting something. 0:04:40.520 --> 0:04:43.680 Near the garbage cans. He's admitted to garbage cans, and 0:04:43.680 --> 0:04:45.839 it's the bull is not the only container. 0:04:46.000 --> 0:04:50.159 It is easier. It's it's a bowl, so it's easy. 0:04:50.200 --> 0:04:55.160 There's more. Yeah, I think I'm a I'm a baby basically. 0:04:56.400 --> 0:04:58.160 I think you a fifteen doing. 0:04:58.240 --> 0:05:01.000 Just think it's disgusting to throw up into a pot. 0:05:01.520 --> 0:05:04.040 That's crazy. It's like the fact, this is the cleanup 0:05:04.080 --> 0:05:04.760 of it. 0:05:05.160 --> 0:05:07.919 And then you, you know, wash it with lisol and 0:05:07.960 --> 0:05:10.240 other stuff. It's just like anything else at that point. 0:05:10.680 --> 0:05:12.560 There's disgusting leftover food all the time. 0:05:13.279 --> 0:05:13.880 That's food. 0:05:13.960 --> 0:05:16.040 It's not my throw up. Well, I don't want to 0:05:16.040 --> 0:05:18.240 see my throw up in any container. 0:05:18.800 --> 0:05:19.640 Something to come around. 0:05:19.720 --> 0:05:23.120 I mean, your your your vomits, Your vomit is your 0:05:23.200 --> 0:05:25.480 food with like a little bit of a mile I 0:05:25.520 --> 0:05:27.000 guess sometime food plus. 0:05:26.839 --> 0:05:30.560 Okay, But y'all are acting like you don't have other options. No, 0:05:30.800 --> 0:05:34.720 I know in that versus on my bed. Sure, I'll 0:05:34.720 --> 0:05:36.600 throw up in that. 0:05:36.240 --> 0:05:37.919 Is essentially that's what we're saying. 0:05:38.080 --> 0:05:40.039 You have one bowl that you would use, right, It's 0:05:40.040 --> 0:05:42.000 not even like they're rotating the containers that. 0:05:43.320 --> 0:05:45.760 Worse, wouldn't that be worse for you. If now there's 0:05:45.880 --> 0:05:48.880 twenty bowls that are thrown up, I think is worse 0:05:49.240 --> 0:05:52.440 by your argument you have a dedicated bowl, Yes. 0:05:52.320 --> 0:05:54.240 You should have a dedicated bowl that you're not cooking it. 0:05:54.640 --> 0:05:56.320 Okay, I basically said that. 0:05:56.920 --> 0:05:58.880 No, but the people I'm not talking about you. 0:05:58.839 --> 0:06:00.520 Specifically, Okay, well, you're attacking me. 0:06:00.680 --> 0:06:03.479 But there are other whites on the internet saying this 0:06:03.560 --> 0:06:06.320 is the pot or bowl that we would throw up 0:06:06.360 --> 0:06:09.080 into and also make super whatever with. 0:06:09.480 --> 0:06:11.679 Look, I think I don't think. I think we're talking 0:06:11.680 --> 0:06:13.320 in circles at this point. I want to hear from 0:06:13.320 --> 0:06:14.400 I want to hear from the listeners. 0:06:14.520 --> 0:06:17.760 If you had yeah, if your family had sick, did. 0:06:17.600 --> 0:06:20.760 You have a dedicated vomit container. 0:06:20.279 --> 0:06:22.039 Bowl that you also made food in? 0:06:22.640 --> 0:06:24.479 Okay, that you also used. 0:06:24.400 --> 0:06:27.920 Not just like a bucket or or a bucket, have 0:06:27.920 --> 0:06:28.640 a bucket in your. 0:06:28.520 --> 0:06:29.400 Home, use a bucket? 0:06:29.560 --> 0:06:31.640 All right, all right, I think we're done. 0:06:33.200 --> 0:06:36.720 You said you've had food poisoning two to three times times. 0:06:36.920 --> 0:06:38.200 Do you have an idea of the culprit? 0:06:38.400 --> 0:06:41.320 So one time it was it was a bowl place, 0:06:41.480 --> 0:06:43.039 it was a Mediterranean bowl. 0:06:43.040 --> 0:06:43.719 I don't even know. 0:06:44.240 --> 0:06:49.200 It may have been like a cavo or something got sponsor. 0:06:49.440 --> 0:06:51.840 It was one of and it's this was before it 0:06:51.880 --> 0:06:52.320 was crazy. 0:06:52.480 --> 0:06:53.240 It was too crazy. 0:06:53.360 --> 0:06:55.520 Yeah, it's a little nutty. 0:06:55.640 --> 0:06:57.600 So it was like it wasn't even something I considered 0:06:57.600 --> 0:06:58.160 to be risky. 0:06:58.520 --> 0:07:02.040 Yeah, and once again, this is what I think gave 0:07:02.080 --> 0:07:04.440 it to me, because you know, the classic food poisoning 0:07:04.480 --> 0:07:05.920 thing is you get food posoning and you go through 0:07:05.960 --> 0:07:07.920 all the day until you ate. Recently, you're like, that's 0:07:07.920 --> 0:07:09.200 the no one, that's norm When that was out of 0:07:09.200 --> 0:07:10.880 the ordinary, Yeah, exactly. 0:07:10.520 --> 0:07:11.240 Only a year ago. 0:07:11.560 --> 0:07:13.920 On my way back from LA I landed at like 0:07:13.960 --> 0:07:16.680 eleven or midnight, but I was really hungry, and I 0:07:16.720 --> 0:07:18.440 went to a bodego on my way home and got 0:07:18.480 --> 0:07:21.200 like a buffalo chicken saying, which is like a hero, 0:07:22.480 --> 0:07:29.520 and ate it probably thirty to forty five minutes later. Yeah, 0:07:29.680 --> 0:07:31.920 that is when I was like Kevin, it was coming 0:07:32.000 --> 0:07:34.320 right out of me. I was on the toilet forever. 0:07:34.640 --> 0:07:37.960 I had like a cold sweat and shivers and stuff. 0:07:38.280 --> 0:07:38.520 Yeah. 0:07:38.560 --> 0:07:41.840 But here's the interesting part. The next day, I was 0:07:41.880 --> 0:07:44.080 shocked at how I could have gotten so sick from 0:07:44.080 --> 0:07:44.800 that so quickly. 0:07:44.960 --> 0:07:46.480 That's what I was going to say, Man, I didn't 0:07:46.480 --> 0:07:48.120 want to call you out, but that seems a little 0:07:48.120 --> 0:07:51.800 too fast. Thirty forty five minutes, I asked my doctor, 0:07:52.080 --> 0:07:54.200 even in your body yet she was saying. 0:07:53.880 --> 0:07:57.000 That the culprit could be anything you've eaten in the 0:07:57.080 --> 0:08:01.240 last ten days. I think we are so attuned to 0:08:01.280 --> 0:08:03.679 thinking that it's something I just ate that got me sick. 0:08:04.280 --> 0:08:05.440 I'm sorry, I don't believe that. 0:08:05.600 --> 0:08:07.960 So I wonder, like, all right, maybe you have a 0:08:08.040 --> 0:08:11.200 regular sickness and you just finished eating and then you 0:08:11.200 --> 0:08:12.120 thought it was that thing. 0:08:12.560 --> 0:08:16.640 I can see the last I'll give you two. I'm 0:08:16.680 --> 0:08:19.760 not getting food boys nine days ago. 0:08:19.880 --> 0:08:22.600 That is out. It came out already. 0:08:22.720 --> 0:08:24.960 If we're going to say that, then there was one 0:08:24.960 --> 0:08:28.520 time in Toronto, I ate a pizza with eggplant on it. 0:08:29.120 --> 0:08:31.240 Sure something was going on with it. It was one 0:08:31.240 --> 0:08:33.000 of the things where I was as I was eating it, 0:08:33.040 --> 0:08:36.000 I was like something, Oh, this feels like I like eggplant, 0:08:36.040 --> 0:08:39.000 but this is this is not something is up. Went 0:08:39.040 --> 0:08:42.040 in the bathroom at the pizza place. I'm still there, 0:08:42.600 --> 0:08:45.920 threw up. So that's you talk about thirty forty five 0:08:45.960 --> 0:08:47.800 minutes about mid eating. 0:08:47.920 --> 0:08:50.440 Well you use zero minutes if you didn't eat anything 0:08:50.760 --> 0:08:52.440 in that moment. You probably would have went to the 0:08:52.440 --> 0:08:53.280 bathroom and threw up. 0:08:53.440 --> 0:08:53.680 No. 0:08:53.679 --> 0:08:56.240 No, I was eating the pizza. The pizza made me 0:08:56.240 --> 0:09:00.120 feel sick, and then I threw up. It was and 0:09:00.240 --> 0:09:01.240 it was a response to. 0:09:01.240 --> 0:09:04.719 The Okay, but I know what happened after you ate 0:09:04.760 --> 0:09:07.040 the pizza. But maybe there's something in something that's inside 0:09:07.040 --> 0:09:10.760 of you before the pizza. The pizza is just kind 0:09:10.760 --> 0:09:13.560 of pushing it. Three doctors right here, you know, and 0:09:13.600 --> 0:09:16.520 that's just spring it. You're blaming the pizza the new pizza, 0:09:16.559 --> 0:09:17.679 but maybe it was the old thing. 0:09:18.080 --> 0:09:19.839 The pizza made me feel. 0:09:19.960 --> 0:09:21.920 You're saying that's how you feel, that's what you think. 0:09:22.280 --> 0:09:22.720 The fact. 0:09:22.800 --> 0:09:24.600 Now you're telling me how I facts. 0:09:24.600 --> 0:09:25.600 Don't care about your feelings. 0:09:25.720 --> 0:09:28.520 Yeah, exactly, as I was eating the pizza, I was like, 0:09:28.600 --> 0:09:30.800 oh my god, this pizza is making me feel naice. 0:09:30.640 --> 0:09:34.319 Because and then it's interacting with what say okay, it 0:09:34.400 --> 0:09:35.000 was the trigger. 0:09:35.200 --> 0:09:36.480 I would put the pizza. 0:09:36.160 --> 0:09:39.160 Down and say, okay, I'm not I'm gonna not touch it, 0:09:39.240 --> 0:09:40.040 and I felt Okay. 0:09:40.240 --> 0:09:41.800 The reason I'm telling that story is I didn't think 0:09:41.800 --> 0:09:43.200 it was food what it was. 0:09:43.240 --> 0:09:45.000 I thought you were trying to say it was You 0:09:45.040 --> 0:09:46.720 don't think I had a reaction. 0:09:46.480 --> 0:09:50.160 To the pizza. But it's not food poisoning, So. 0:09:50.120 --> 0:09:53.120 You wouldn't call that food poison no, because how was 0:09:53.160 --> 0:09:55.160 it poison It didn't give it didn't have the time 0:09:55.200 --> 0:09:55.800 to poison me. 0:09:55.880 --> 0:09:56.760 So what do you think that is? 0:09:56.880 --> 0:09:58.960 I just had some sort of reaction to the ingredient, 0:09:59.160 --> 0:10:01.160 like allergy, maybe an allergy. 0:10:01.559 --> 0:10:04.400 I'll be honest, Like, I know when you get a cold, 0:10:04.679 --> 0:10:07.240 what makes you sick? Like you're getting like if it's 0:10:07.280 --> 0:10:11.040 like an infection in some way or like a bug. 0:10:11.679 --> 0:10:15.440 I don't know what food poisoning? How you get sick 0:10:15.520 --> 0:10:15.880 from that? 0:10:16.679 --> 0:10:16.920 Is it? 0:10:16.960 --> 0:10:20.280 Like, like what undercooked food that's causing your body to 0:10:20.400 --> 0:10:21.400 react badly? 0:10:21.559 --> 0:10:22.480 That's what I want to find out. 0:10:22.520 --> 0:10:24.360 I think it could be undercooked, right, I think it 0:10:24.360 --> 0:10:26.960 could be prepared in a not a good way, so 0:10:27.080 --> 0:10:28.040 cross contamination. 0:10:28.600 --> 0:10:30.840 Yeah, So I mean, I'll say this. I know I'm 0:10:30.880 --> 0:10:33.760 a skeptic, but like I I'm a big fan of 0:10:33.800 --> 0:10:36.880 Gordon Ramsey. I've watched many of his shows, hundreds of 0:10:36.880 --> 0:10:41.040 hours of his reporting, and watching that, I am like, 0:10:41.080 --> 0:10:43.240 there's some funky stuff going on in kitchens. Oh yeah, 0:10:43.280 --> 0:10:44.600 around the world. 0:10:44.720 --> 0:10:47.640 Frankly, raw meat next to the vegetables next to. 0:10:47.600 --> 0:10:50.640 So, I mean, I understand how this can happen. Yeah, 0:10:50.720 --> 0:10:51.840 if it happens, If. 0:10:52.480 --> 0:10:55.160 It were to happen, I want to believe what you like, 0:10:55.640 --> 0:10:56.200 if I did it. 0:10:57.760 --> 0:11:02.040 Food prep obviously the source farms, Yeah yeah, I've seen 0:11:02.080 --> 0:11:04.199 some videos from these farms. Doesn't seem that clean. 0:11:04.640 --> 0:11:09.959 No, remember when Chipotle had the big was it salmonella outbreak? 0:11:10.360 --> 0:11:13.680 To me, that's food poisoning, Like you consume that and 0:11:13.720 --> 0:11:15.679 then you get sick from it. Yeah, but that's not 0:11:15.760 --> 0:11:18.960 happening as often as people are saying they get food 0:11:18.960 --> 0:11:20.920 poisoned for recalls that stuff. 0:11:21.000 --> 0:11:23.240 Yeah, that's a different thing. That's like a recall that 0:11:23.520 --> 0:11:25.040 someone messed up a whole batch of. 0:11:25.120 --> 0:11:27.080 Yeah, yeah, see that. I think that's where things are complicate, 0:11:27.080 --> 0:11:29.480 because of course we're like boris Head last year. Yes, 0:11:29.880 --> 0:11:33.120 there's these things where there's nationwide recalls and all this stuff, 0:11:33.120 --> 0:11:35.079 and you then it's like, okay, they're tracing this back 0:11:35.080 --> 0:11:37.040 to the source and they know this is it contamination. 0:11:37.080 --> 0:11:38.839 And then there's other stuff where it's like okay, me 0:11:38.840 --> 0:11:41.080 and my buddy go to the socco place, Yeah we 0:11:41.160 --> 0:11:43.839 get the same thing. He's having a problem, and I'm 0:11:43.880 --> 0:11:45.080 not why is that. 0:11:45.000 --> 0:11:46.120 Because not everyone. 0:11:46.320 --> 0:11:48.400 This is also the thing with food poisoning is that 0:11:48.640 --> 0:11:50.360 two people could get the same exact meal and have 0:11:50.360 --> 0:11:51.520 different reactions to it. 0:11:51.720 --> 0:11:55.560 Yeah, clearly. One more question, do you guys wash your chicken? 0:11:57.080 --> 0:11:57.280 No? 0:11:59.120 --> 0:12:01.520 I hate the same as on camera, but I don't 0:12:01.679 --> 0:12:04.760 because I notice is controversial and in the black community. 0:12:05.360 --> 0:12:07.040 Yeah so sometimes. 0:12:07.480 --> 0:12:10.600 Yeah, but you're not supposed to wash your chicken because 0:12:10.640 --> 0:12:12.360 if there is something on it, you're just spreading it, 0:12:12.400 --> 0:12:13.520 you're not actually cleaning it. 0:12:13.720 --> 0:12:16.199 Let's say I used to do it because that's the 0:12:16.240 --> 0:12:17.000 way I was taught. 0:12:17.320 --> 0:12:21.280 So you get vinegar and lemon juice, and you like 0:12:21.360 --> 0:12:23.800 kind of give it like a little bath in the bowl. 0:12:23.880 --> 0:12:27.320 As far as black community misconceptions go, that one's up 0:12:27.320 --> 0:12:30.280 there with we don't need to wear sunscreen. Yes, got 0:12:30.280 --> 0:12:33.040 my ass fried a couple of times by following that advice. 0:12:33.160 --> 0:12:35.480 We don't need to wash the chicken, y'all. I know 0:12:35.760 --> 0:12:38.640 we're gonna get the emails. It is okay, I haven't 0:12:38.679 --> 0:12:41.520 been washing chicken for years. I have not gotten food poisoning. 0:12:41.800 --> 0:12:45.400 So I want to find out what is food poisoning? 0:12:46.160 --> 0:12:47.480 Well, first of all, is it real? 0:12:48.240 --> 0:12:52.240 That's my second question? How common is it? Okay, why 0:12:52.240 --> 0:12:54.679 don't I get it? How can we stay safe? 0:12:54.880 --> 0:12:55.920 What if thing's so void? 0:12:56.240 --> 0:13:11.720 Yeah, and we'll find out after the break. Okay, we're back. 0:13:12.000 --> 0:13:13.800 I'm Manny, I'm Noah Devin. 0:13:13.960 --> 0:13:16.839 So we're talking about food poisoning. I'm skeptical of how 0:13:17.080 --> 0:13:19.040 common it is. I feel like it's used to liberally, 0:13:19.240 --> 0:13:21.800 and I'm wondering why I don't get it personally. So 0:13:21.920 --> 0:13:24.319 I did some research. I had some perfect phone calls 0:13:24.320 --> 0:13:27.640 with some experts in the field. First up, I spoke 0:13:27.679 --> 0:13:28.880 to doctor Ben Chapman. 0:13:29.520 --> 0:13:33.600 I'm a professor and food safety extension specialist and department 0:13:33.640 --> 0:13:36.960 head at North Carolina State University, and the area that 0:13:37.080 --> 0:13:39.920 I focus on is food born illness and food safety, 0:13:40.080 --> 0:13:43.800 especially around restaurants, retail stores, and consumer homes. 0:13:44.400 --> 0:13:47.360 And more importantly arguably, he has his own podcast called 0:13:47.360 --> 0:13:49.120 Food Safety Talk. So this is the guy to. 0:13:49.120 --> 0:13:49.520 Talk to him. 0:13:49.559 --> 0:13:52.320 Hey, yeah, So first up, I asked him to explain 0:13:52.360 --> 0:13:54.000 what food poisoning actually is. 0:13:54.559 --> 0:13:59.439 Food poisoning technically is like one slice where someone eats 0:13:59.440 --> 0:14:02.680 something and there's a toxin in it and you get 0:14:02.760 --> 0:14:06.920 really sick, really quickly, like within six or eight hours. 0:14:07.080 --> 0:14:07.320 You know. 0:14:07.679 --> 0:14:09.600 Back in the seventies, or eighties where a whole bunch 0:14:09.600 --> 0:14:11.520 of people went to a wedding and the next day 0:14:11.559 --> 0:14:14.400 everybody showed up at the emergency room or at their 0:14:14.440 --> 0:14:17.280 primary carreer doctor and then started talking like, oh, what 0:14:17.320 --> 0:14:18.400 did you have the chicken? 0:14:18.480 --> 0:14:19.520 Did you have the fish? Whatever? 0:14:19.840 --> 0:14:23.239 Right, Like, that's kind of the common look at poisoning. 0:14:23.600 --> 0:14:26.440 Food born illness is a little more nuanced. We see 0:14:26.480 --> 0:14:29.280 outbreaks now that might be like as few as three 0:14:29.360 --> 0:14:32.080 or four people, and they might be in four different 0:14:32.120 --> 0:14:35.000 states or in two different countries, And that has I 0:14:35.000 --> 0:14:38.840 would say, broadened the view of food born illness because 0:14:39.120 --> 0:14:43.240 it might be E. Coli or samonella or listeria. Those 0:14:43.280 --> 0:14:46.440 are kind of very common bacteria that we hear about, 0:14:46.720 --> 0:14:51.440 and those often take you know, maybe forty eight or 0:14:51.480 --> 0:14:54.920 seventy two hours after eating something to actually start even 0:14:54.960 --> 0:14:57.200 having symptoms, and it might be another week before someone 0:14:57.240 --> 0:14:59.680 gets sick enough to go to the doctor, depending on 0:14:59.720 --> 0:15:00.920 what the on what the illness is. 0:15:01.520 --> 0:15:03.440 The timing here makes a lot more sense. I know, 0:15:03.480 --> 0:15:05.680 Manny before it's talking about his doctor's telling me what 0:15:05.800 --> 0:15:06.360 ten days. 0:15:07.600 --> 0:15:09.560 Yeah, she was saying, like it could have been anything 0:15:09.560 --> 0:15:11.280 in the past ten days. 0:15:10.800 --> 0:15:13.080 Six to eight hours. That feels like the perfect times. 0:15:13.120 --> 0:15:15.240 That's when I get food poisoning. That's the time table 0:15:15.240 --> 0:15:17.240 to start settling in. Yeah, for dinner, and then the 0:15:17.240 --> 0:15:19.080 middle of the night you're like, what's going on? 0:15:19.160 --> 0:15:22.560 I mean, even lasteria can incubate for seventy days, which 0:15:22.560 --> 0:15:24.680 is really crazy. It's not as easy as just going like, 0:15:24.720 --> 0:15:26.360 what's the last thing you ate, which is obviously what 0:15:26.400 --> 0:15:29.200 most people would do instinctively. We want to be something 0:15:29.240 --> 0:15:31.720 you had literally months ago. Yeah, so I asked, what's 0:15:31.720 --> 0:15:34.880 actually happening in the body during food poisoning. That's him 0:15:34.920 --> 0:15:36.280 to go Osmosa Jones mode. 0:15:36.560 --> 0:15:42.680 Yes, we start with the pathogenic KEY coli, and the 0:15:42.680 --> 0:15:44.360 one that we worry about the. 0:15:44.280 --> 0:15:47.000 Most is E. Coli on seven seven. 0:15:47.120 --> 0:15:50.240 So essentially, what's happening is someone eats food that has 0:15:50.280 --> 0:15:54.480 the pathogen in it. The pathogen passes through the stomach 0:15:54.880 --> 0:15:57.840 and ends up getting to the intestines and that's the 0:15:57.960 --> 0:16:01.560 right place for infection for that put to bacteria, and 0:16:02.280 --> 0:16:04.720 the intestines are a really good environment for E. Coli 0:16:04.800 --> 0:16:08.640 because we have nonpathogenic E. Coli in our body at 0:16:08.680 --> 0:16:12.560 all times. Without having E. Coli in our intestines, we would. 0:16:12.320 --> 0:16:15.200 Not digest food correctly. So we have this like kind. 0:16:15.080 --> 0:16:19.160 Of rogue type of bacteria that's there that lives amongst 0:16:19.200 --> 0:16:22.440 all the other E. Coli can then move in and 0:16:22.440 --> 0:16:25.800 out of cells pretty easy, infects as it grows. A 0:16:25.840 --> 0:16:30.120 byproduct of its growth, it's essentially the waste from the bacteria, 0:16:30.440 --> 0:16:33.920 and so that toxin ends up going to the kidneys 0:16:34.120 --> 0:16:37.800 and then damages kidney cells or ends up in the 0:16:37.840 --> 0:16:41.800 bloodstream in the eyes and can create blood clots because 0:16:42.280 --> 0:16:44.520 the body is trying to attack this toxin, and can 0:16:44.640 --> 0:16:47.680 lead to blindness. 0:16:48.920 --> 0:16:51.640 I asked how common this is, Going back to my question, 0:16:51.680 --> 0:16:53.760 people throw this around all the time. I had food poisoning, 0:16:53.760 --> 0:16:54.880 this that whatever. 0:16:55.200 --> 0:16:58.640 We estimate that they're around forty eight to fifty million 0:16:58.680 --> 0:17:01.240 cases of food borne illness in the US. If you 0:17:01.280 --> 0:17:03.640 went across the population and ask people whether they had 0:17:03.720 --> 0:17:07.880 an irregular bowel movement or if they felt nauseous, how 0:17:07.880 --> 0:17:10.640 many times a year that might happen, you might see 0:17:10.720 --> 0:17:12.560 the population might say three or four times a year. 0:17:12.560 --> 0:17:15.320 I have that, but did not equate it to anything. 0:17:15.400 --> 0:17:17.720 It's just I had the twenty four hour flu. And 0:17:17.880 --> 0:17:19.880 what we don't know is how much of that is food. 0:17:19.640 --> 0:17:20.600 Born and how much is not. 0:17:20.840 --> 0:17:25.080 On average, somewhere in between one and six and one 0:17:25.119 --> 0:17:27.280 in five people are going to get food borne illness 0:17:27.400 --> 0:17:30.440 a year in the US, and the vast majority won't 0:17:30.480 --> 0:17:32.880 equate it to something that they've eaten or maybe never 0:17:32.960 --> 0:17:35.480 will be able to solve that down outbreak. It was 0:17:35.560 --> 0:17:37.520 just something they were exposed to in the food supply. 0:17:38.880 --> 0:17:39.679 It's pretty common. 0:17:39.840 --> 0:17:42.600