Speaker 1: Hello the Internet, and welcome to season two seventy seven,
Speaker 1: Episode two of Dirt a Ley's Eye. Guys, stay professional radio. Hey,
Speaker 1: who's that? This is a podcast where we take a
Speaker 1: deep dive into America's shared consciousness. And it's Tuesday, February twenty,
Speaker 1: twenty twenty three. My name is Jack O'Brien ak. I
Speaker 1: don't know if you've heard of JC, but you never
Speaker 1: possessed the Holy See no Ragcliff, no magic, no yogis
Speaker 1: my boss of the motherfucking Pope. That is courtesy of
Speaker 1: Salvador Jolly, in reference to the new Russell Crow Joint,
Speaker 1: in which he is the Pope's exorcist and gets to
Speaker 1: utter the line he got a problem with me, pick
Speaker 1: it up with my boss, the Pope, which I'm trying
Speaker 1: to make my own new catchphrase. I'm trying to absorb
Speaker 1: that into my life. Well, I'm thrilled to be joined
Speaker 1: by a very special guest, co host one of the
Speaker 1: very cases on Mountains Lightmore, an Emmy nominated writer, artist,
Speaker 1: comedians behind many acclaimed podcasts, author of the upcoming New
Speaker 1: York Times bestseller I'm going to Manifest It into Existence,
Speaker 1: Raw Dog. It's Jeni Minion time, Jamie will take over
Speaker 1: the dailies. I guys, Dominion guys say below and Bana. Look,
Speaker 1: I think it's fun. I think it's fun. I don't
Speaker 1: know if I think it's may have been so long
Speaker 1: that I haven't even been able to really fully talk
Speaker 1: minions on the daily night guys, way too long. It's
Speaker 1: been that long that you haven't been that fully talked
Speaker 1: about the latest The Rise of Grew Yeah, oh, the
Speaker 1: Rise of Grew. Yes, and that I'm legally married to
Speaker 1: Kevin Lemignon. There's just been so much going on. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm so excited, Hi, Jack, so excited to have you.
Speaker 1: Thank you so much for being here. It's so so
Speaker 1: wonderful to have you. Did you say Dominion Times at
Speaker 1: Dominion Times? Yeah, Jurassic Park Dominions. Okay. I was just wondering,
Speaker 1: like that was the first time that I realized that
Speaker 1: the minions were behind the Dominion voting scandal, like the
Speaker 1: mess the name of the voting machines. How am I
Speaker 1: the first person to write this conspiracy theory? Come on?
Speaker 1: And I mean they like exactly they work. They work
Speaker 1: for the most most evil master you know available At
Speaker 1: the time, I just love that in Minion World they
Speaker 1: have an elaborate reason for why the minions were had
Speaker 1: no ties to World War Two. You're like, oh my god,
Speaker 1: they were living in a frozen cave then Jack of course, yeah,
Speaker 1: yeah for both of the world wars. So so relax, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, I can't lax when it comes to the
Speaker 1: make up too, and if they should have tried harder
Speaker 1: to get out of the frozen cave, like, I mean,
Speaker 1: did they get the news? Did they just did they
Speaker 1: sit one out? We don't know, we don't know. They're
Speaker 1: supervillain circles like for all throughout all their existence and
Speaker 1: then just didn't didn't even know this was coming, Like
Speaker 1: come on, they're out by the sixties though, so you
Speaker 1: kind of I guess we just need to wait for
Speaker 1: the next movie to find out what they were up
Speaker 1: to during the Gulf War. I don't know. Yeah, nine
Speaker 1: to eleven the Gulf War. Yeah, yeah, there's a lot
Speaker 1: of the architects of all that CIA like false information,
Speaker 1: Oh for sure, for sure. Wasn't it yellow cake uranium
Speaker 1: that was used to false yellow Interesting. I'm just I'm
Speaker 1: just connecting dots that are there. I'm not adding anything
Speaker 1: to this anyways. No, you're just stating facts. I'm stating facts.
Speaker 1: I'm doing my own research. We are thrilled to be
Speaker 1: joined in our third seat by the author of the
Speaker 1: new book Overthinking About You, about the intersection of dating
Speaker 1: a mental health. You know her from just between us.
Speaker 1: It's the brilliant and talented Alison Rasco. Oh, thank you
Speaker 1: for having me. I did not know any of that
Speaker 1: about the Minions. Yeah, oh my god, well I haven't
Speaker 1: seen one. I haven't seen a Despicable of Me. I
Speaker 1: haven't seen a Minion movie. I don't know about this
Speaker 1: rich history. Oh oh, there's so much going on and
Speaker 1: trouble Jack. Have you have you seen them all? Because
Speaker 1: of your kids? Or you just watch? I feel like
Speaker 1: not in order. It's like I'll walk in for a
Speaker 1: scene here and there, and but usually like if the
Speaker 1: kids are watching a movie, it's an opportunity to like
Speaker 1: go get adult things done. So but I've been sucked
Speaker 1: in for entire chunks of the Minion movie. What is
Speaker 1: adult things? Do you? Like, go watch meet Joe Black
Speaker 1: or something? Just constantly paying bills, just bills, stacking up
Speaker 1: on my desk and then just nailing him out the
Speaker 1: door with a real haired look on my face. Yeah, yeah, no,
Speaker 1: I go watch Meet Joe Black. I don't know. That's
Speaker 1: like the adult movie. I guess I got adult things
Speaker 1: to do kids, like the True Love between the Grim
Speaker 1: Reaper and somebody who Met the Grim Reaper ail though
Speaker 1: it's not lady. I actually have never seen Meet Joe Black.
Speaker 1: I just my parents had it and it was two
Speaker 1: VHS tapes, so I was like, damn, that's were you
Speaker 1: kind of like walking into the room to make sure
Speaker 1: that they were occupied and then going to do kids stuff.
Speaker 1: Was it like a reverse of how I treat you?
Speaker 1: Were just like me, I need to make sure I
Speaker 1: was good to go watch Pinocchio and you can watch
Speaker 1: That's like you can watch Pinocchio three times and the
Speaker 1: run time of Meet Joe Black, that's true. Meetcho Black
Speaker 1: is very long. And my dad really loves it, like
Speaker 1: has has given like he doesn't give me a heartfelt
Speaker 1: so little queezed about much, but he has been like that,
Speaker 1: Meet Joe Black is a hell of a film. Someone
Speaker 1: had to say it. He may be the first someone did. Alison,
Speaker 1: how are you doing? Where are you coming to us from?
Speaker 1: I'm in Rainy Los Angeles. So no, it's really going on.
Speaker 1: I don't know how to function overwhelmed by the wetness.
Speaker 1: It's it's been, it's been rough. We're just like not,
Speaker 1: we're not built for it. And then every time it
Speaker 1: comes up, for like for people who live in cities
Speaker 1: that get snow, they're like, oh, shut the fuck up.
Speaker 1: For You're like, okay, but it's raining, it's actually really
Speaker 1: hard for us. We're not built for it. It just
Speaker 1: falls apart right away. Like, so it starts raining hard
Speaker 1: Friday night and someone to meet, like one of the
Speaker 1: traffic lights in my neighborhood went down. A car immediately
Speaker 1: like sped through that intersection, knocked over like telephone electric pole,
Speaker 1: like knocked out power and internet to our entire neighborhood
Speaker 1: for the whole weekend. It's just like, this is just
Speaker 1: just rain, just rain. Yeah, my friend had another one
Speaker 1: where somebody hit a pole and then she lost power
Speaker 1: and she had to stay at my house for a night. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's funny that it's not just the weather, it's people
Speaker 1: driving into poles seems to be a main cause of
Speaker 1: the issue. Yeah, fascinating. I didn't see that part coming. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: just right, away. There's a a knocked over telephone pole.
Speaker 1: The trees are getting knocked over too, which I'm a
Speaker 1: little confused by. I think just the wind climate change.
Speaker 1: I'm not sure that's what I that's my catchphrase, the
Speaker 1: wind climate change. I'm not sure that. And the Pope
Speaker 1: is your boss. Yeah, Pope is going to figure it out,
Speaker 1: all right. Also, we're gonna get to know you a
Speaker 1: little bit better in a moment. First, we're gonna tell
Speaker 1: our listeners a couple of the things we're talking about today.
Speaker 1: We're talking about they were like two big COVID stories
Speaker 1: that were like revised over the weekend or over the
Speaker 1: past week, Like one in the New York Times it
Speaker 1: was like, masks don't work at all, Like never at
Speaker 1: all have they worked, and that is a fact. And
Speaker 1: then another that in the Wall Street Journal that claimed
Speaker 1: that they now have like it was like breaking news,
Speaker 1: we now have like evidence that COVID was caused by
Speaker 1: a lab leak in Wuhan and yeah, it just feels
Speaker 1: like there's and then Woody Harrelson's sl monologue was like
Speaker 1: a weird anti vax rant. It was Yeah, I watched
Speaker 1: that show and I like it. Yeah, big fan. Okay, well,
Speaker 1: I guess we'll get there. Yeah, we'll get there. I
Speaker 1: mean it wasn't like a full on anti vax rant,
Speaker 1: but like he had this long like it was weird
Speaker 1: long like story in the middle of it. Yeah, so
Speaker 1: we'll talk about that. It just feels like things like
Speaker 1: in what's supposed to be the center are moving right
Speaker 1: in a weird way. So we'll talk about that. We will,
Speaker 1: of course talk about Cocaine Bear, which also, according to
Speaker 1: our writer JM maybe the ultimate pandemic movie. I've never
Speaker 1: seen a concept for a movie I would want to
Speaker 1: see less whoa And maybe that's because I know the
Speaker 1: bear dies, like right, I don't want to watch a
Speaker 1: movie about an animal, and even if the animal's doing
Speaker 1: bad things and then the animal dies like no, thank you. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: it looks like the animal is very fun. I'm trying
Speaker 1: to think. My reaction was quite the opposite. Yeah, it's
Speaker 1: having fun before it goes out. But yeah, I can sympathize.
Speaker 1: I guess my mind didn't immediately go to like, oh,
Speaker 1: I have to know before I watch anything if any
Speaker 1: animals diet it, because if they do, I have to
Speaker 1: opt out. So no, John Wick, no, I've never been
Speaker 1: able to see a single John Wick movie because even
Speaker 1: though I hear they're excellent, because I know that the central,
Speaker 1: you know, act, the catalyst moment, is his dog dying.
Speaker 1: So it's no for me devastating, It's no for me.
Speaker 1: But before we get to any of that shit, Alison,
Speaker 1: we do like to ask our guest, what is something
Speaker 1: from your search history? A lot of my search history
Speaker 1: is like what my dogs can and cannot eat? So
Speaker 1: a more recent one cocaine is that seems on this
Speaker 1: movie it seems like dogs get really good at jumping.
Speaker 1: But it would be my guest. I recently google can
Speaker 1: dogs have sparkling water? And what do you think? Was
Speaker 1: the answer? But what would your guests be? I? No,
Speaker 1: too spicy? My guests would be yes, and it will
Speaker 1: be hilarious to watch them react to it. So it
Speaker 1: was they can have it in small amounts. Yeah, if
Speaker 1: there's no flavoring, okay, so you can't have any kind
Speaker 1: of flavored sparkling water, but in a pinch, I guess
Speaker 1: they can have a little bit. But it seems like
Speaker 1: it also seemed funny they were like in some picky
Speaker 1: drinkers might be intrigued by the bubbles. Okay, you're on
Speaker 1: a slippery slope there, like Perier. Please, Yes they did.
Speaker 1: Did dogs like it? I don't know. I never tried.
Speaker 1: Now I'm a little curious, but I personally hate it,
Speaker 1: so I have I've never liked sparkling water of any kind,
Speaker 1: and that's deeply upsetting to everybody in my life. HM.
Speaker 1: So you were like thinking about going out to buy,
Speaker 1: like acquire some sparkling water for your dog, Like it
Speaker 1: wasn't a thing you had laying around them or like
Speaker 1: sipping on it, and the dog was looking at you,
Speaker 1: and you're like, oh, maybe it was like a thing
Speaker 1: where you're like, I feel like they might really fuck
Speaker 1: with sparkling water. Let me let me look into this. No,
Speaker 1: my fiance is a big fan, and he he asked
Speaker 1: the question, and I did the google. M. That's true teamwork. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's partnership. What is something you think is overrated? Okay,
Speaker 1: so we're we're planning our wedding and so that obviously
Speaker 1: gets you thinking about a lot of like these traditions
Speaker 1: around that. And something that I, even before this process,
Speaker 1: has found to be overrated is a formal thank you card. M.
Speaker 1: I think it is really annoying for the people to
Speaker 1: do who are writing them out, especially after a big event,
Speaker 1: and then I think most people read them for one
Speaker 1: second and throw them out right. So I'm more of
Speaker 1: a fan of a of a text, a quick text
Speaker 1: thank you, but a formal thank you card. I don't know,
Speaker 1: I'm wondering if as a society we can sort of
Speaker 1: start to leave that behind. So I've recently received one
Speaker 1: from a couple for an engagement party, and they took
Speaker 1: a video and it was very charming and like they
Speaker 1: you know, them just expressing their heartfelt thanks and you know,
Speaker 1: it seemed like it took less time than like writing
Speaker 1: writing a thing out. And then we just attempted it
Speaker 1: yesterday because it's my five year old's birthday and so
Speaker 1: we were like, well, we don't go through the trouble
Speaker 1: of having him, you know, us writing the cards and
Speaker 1: then painstakingly getting him to write his name out like
Speaker 1: a couple words. So we did videos after he opened
Speaker 1: it and was like super excited about the gift, and
Speaker 1: it worked really well. Like I think, little videos are fun,
Speaker 1: are a fun alternative. Also probably a little taxing, especially
Speaker 1: from kids. Yeah, from kids, it's definitely fun. Oh wow,
Speaker 1: So then how do you get them the video? Is
Speaker 1: it in an email? Is a yeah? Email? Just a
Speaker 1: text or yeah? Email sense I like that, So an
Speaker 1: update on it? Yeah, Jamie, we did go to Chuck
Speaker 1: E Cheese for his birthday party. I know, but I'll
Speaker 1: pretend to learn again. Yeah, I'm so excited. I saved
Speaker 1: a couple of questions for you for on mine. So, yeah,
Speaker 1: you said you said that the one you went to
Speaker 1: there's no more band, but there is one Chuck. There's
Speaker 1: the Wonder is an animatronic Chuck. And when you enter
Speaker 1: and the lights are all because like it's we did
Speaker 1: a thing where you go in before it opens up
Speaker 1: and like have like the video games to yourself. But
Speaker 1: you also get a tear Chuck. Yeah, elite tear Chuck
Speaker 1: experience that the couture Chuck Chuck E Cheese experience. But
Speaker 1: when you when you enter in there no lights on
Speaker 1: his eyes are like black holes, and yeah, it'll happen upsetting. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it looks like a character from one of those medieval paintings.
Speaker 1: That's just like them going going nuts on like the
Speaker 1: idea of a punishing god. They're just like this what
Speaker 1: circle of hell? Yeah, how did the kids react to
Speaker 1: the animatronic? Did they ignore it? Did they engage with it?
Speaker 1: Completely ignored it? Well, that's just not to call your
Speaker 1: your child and their friends disgusting. But what a what
Speaker 1: a loss, what a missed opportunity, and what a lost generation.
Speaker 1: I was trying to get attention to it. I was like,
Speaker 1: you know, doing a little dancing over by it and
Speaker 1: being like it's it's kind of jag it out. His
Speaker 1: mouth wasn't moving, but his hands were in a way
Speaker 1: that was completely dissociated from his voice, but it was
Speaker 1: close enough that you you could kind of tell that
Speaker 1: that's what was supposed to be happening. That is something
Speaker 1: that bugs me. I mean, the top two Chucky Cheese
Speaker 1: things that right now, right now, it's always changing. Butting
Speaker 1: is that people they're like, well, did you know his
Speaker 1: middle names entertainment? I was like, all right, call me
Speaker 1: in twenty fourteen, and that's when I didn't know that.
Speaker 1: I didn't know that any other Oh, his middle name
Speaker 1: is entertainment. I don't think I've ever been to a
Speaker 1: true Chucky Cheese. And now you can't that's the problem.
Speaker 1: You can't go all the all the animatronic bands are gone,
Speaker 1: even the Chucky ye're describing, which is in mid two
Speaker 1: thousands model after he's already been changed from a rat
Speaker 1: to a mouse that skateboards. Yeah, he's already got the
Speaker 1: voice of the guy from Bowling for Soup, so it's
Speaker 1: already a lesser experience. He used to smoke. He used
Speaker 1: to smoke a big fat cigar. But now really, Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: early Chucky was the bandleader. He played no instruments. He
Speaker 1: just yelled at the band. He didn't even sing nd style. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he just he was an MC. He smoked a big cigar.
Speaker 1: He was a rat, and he ran a casino and
Speaker 1: that was what happened. He's still giving rat, by the way,
Speaker 1: because of the code. Like his fur is like a
Speaker 1: dirty gray. It looks like every rat I've ever encountered,
Speaker 1: and we think that's what you get from him. The
Speaker 1: vibe Chucky you should be giving should be like if
Speaker 1: you was in your house, you would kill him. Not
Speaker 1: you would? Yeah yeah, Now are you saying that you
Speaker 1: don't like the lead singer from Bowling for Soup because
Speaker 1: that's one of my favorite bands all time. No, I'm
Speaker 1: I'm glad that he's getting those Chucky checks. I think
Speaker 1: it's more just like they made Chucky so friendly when
Speaker 1: he used to be a little hostile, and I kind
Speaker 1: of liked when he was a little hostile. I don't
Speaker 1: even remember when he was hostile, but I've watched so
Speaker 1: many hours at a video out. Yeah. Anyways, Pasqually is
Speaker 1: the best character. Did you see any Pasqually? No Pasqually,
Speaker 1: I don't think so. I don't know who Pasqually is,
Speaker 1: to be honest with you. He's the one human of
Speaker 1: Chuck E Cheese. He's an Italian pizza chef, but he
Speaker 1: also plays the drums. Oh okay, and he does stand
Speaker 1: up common No, no pasquality that I saw at all. Unfortunately,
Speaker 1: pizza is still very good. They are they have shifted
Speaker 1: into a new thing where it's like very needy and
Speaker 1: they like they open the chuck the announcement that Chuck
Speaker 1: E Cheese is going to come out by like running
Speaker 1: a siop where they're like attention, someone's car is parked
Speaker 1: in the loading zone. They like read off a fake
Speaker 1: license plate number. I thought it was real, but then
Speaker 1: like they accidentally played the recording a second time and
Speaker 1: it happened again, like twenty minutes later. So they just
Speaker 1: have that as a thing that I think is designed
Speaker 1: to get everyone's attention and get everyone to like shut
Speaker 1: the fuck up so Chuck can do his thing. But
Speaker 1: they the most noticeable kind of dissonance is between how
Speaker 1: excited they want you to be for the arrival of
Speaker 1: Chucky Cheese, the person in the Chuck E Cheese costume,
Speaker 1: and how like uninterested everybody is in it, and no
Speaker 1: kind of their knowledge that that is also the case,
Speaker 1: Like the people who work there are just kind of like, yeah,
Speaker 1: kind of going through the motions. Unfortunately, but it was
Speaker 1: a blast. I do recommend a Chucky Cheese birthday party.
Speaker 1: It's I wonder how much time we have left with
Speaker 1: Chuck and friends. They seem to have reinvented themselves as
Speaker 1: just like an arcade, which isn't a thing that really
Speaker 1: exists in most places anymore, and so kids think kids
Speaker 1: call like arcades, Chucky Cheeses and the and the five
Speaker 1: year old set. So yeah, I think they've just I
Speaker 1: think they did a smart thing. Got rid of the
Speaker 1: ball pits, unfortunately with COVID, but yeah, it was the
Speaker 1: easiest way to you would get so sick. It didn't.
Speaker 1: Who knows how many diseases could be contracted, right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: the balls at the bottom of the ball pit were presumed.
Speaker 1: I hope that when they got rid of the ball pits,
Speaker 1: those were donated to science, just to be like, what
Speaker 1: what has been growing in here? Yeah there's new species? Yeah, absolutely, Alison.
Speaker 1: What is something you think is underrated? I'm a very
Speaker 1: picky eater, and something I've realized that I haven't been
Speaker 1: eating enough of because it is delicious and lovely is melan.
Speaker 1: I think melan has a really bad rap. A lot
Speaker 1: of times when you're like, oh, I'll have a side
Speaker 1: of fruit, people will be like, what kind of fruit?
Speaker 1: And when people say melan, they go, oh, but good
Speaker 1: melan is really love and it's harder to get. I
Speaker 1: feel like gross melon, Like when I buy berries. Berries
Speaker 1: are so expensive and then they're like moldy in one
Speaker 1: day or like taste disgusting, where like you buy a
Speaker 1: whole melon, you got fruit for days. Less chances that
Speaker 1: will be horrifying a bad bite. So I'm really pro
Speaker 1: melon over here is my new thing, and you just
Speaker 1: you out, Yeah, they have for not much, leaving the
Speaker 1: melon intact and then just like kind of chipping off
Speaker 1: pieces as you go. Do you cut the whole melon
Speaker 1: up and like just have it that way? Because yeah,
Speaker 1: I do feel like melons. Melons have a better shelf
Speaker 1: life than other like kind of fruit once you open them. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I got all these half open bananas and they don't
Speaker 1: last well at all. No, oh God, I think it's
Speaker 1: I think something that gets in the way of melane
Speaker 1: eat melon eating is that it seems like a lot
Speaker 1: to work. But if you sort of go into and say, okay,
Speaker 1: now I'm going to cut up my melon, you pre
Speaker 1: cut it all up, then you have melon for days.
Speaker 1: It's already ready to go. I like melon for day.
Speaker 1: Is that that's enough to sell me on a melon? Yeah?
Speaker 1: I can't remember the last time I bought a melon,
Speaker 1: But I also I don't know, I can't remember really
Speaker 1: the last time I brought I bought produce that was
Speaker 1: like not disgusting. But that's what I'm saying that melon
Speaker 1: is a way around disgusting produce and it's much more
Speaker 1: for and it's affordable. Yeah, and great names for the melons,
Speaker 1: cantaloup and honeydew, well named fruits. I have a lot
Speaker 1: of pun possibilities. Are we including water in the melon family? Definitely?
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, of course, Okay, okay, I'm just checking guys.
Speaker 1: Of course, Jamie, did you not read the notes that
Speaker 1: we got from the melon lobby that this is all
Speaker 1: a way of pushing all melk make sure to read
Speaker 1: the brand name next. Yeah, but I do think watermelon
Speaker 1: has a good wreath, whereas honey Dew and Cantlope are
Speaker 1: the real underrated all stars that need to be back
Speaker 1: in the circulation. Hm. Absolutely, rap a little rap a
Speaker 1: little ham around that ship. Oh so good. I don't
Speaker 1: I don't think that's there's there's another word for it,
Speaker 1: that for the ham that you're supposed to use. But yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: it's Do you guys have any ham melons that I
Speaker 1: get order for my appet user? And they're like, wow,
Speaker 1: this guy, this guy knows his culture cultural force over here.
Speaker 1: All right, Uh, let's take a quick break and we'll
Speaker 1: come back and we'll talk some COVID stuff. Cool. No, yes,
Speaker 1: and we're back and they're there are two COVID stories
Speaker 1: that seemed to be making the rounds from big mainstream
Speaker 1: media institutions, The New York Times as well as the
Speaker 1: Wall Street Journal and so so, first up last week
Speaker 1: there was a story from Brett Stevenson, who's like their
Speaker 1: tread Catholic columnist and has has said like wild shit
Speaker 1: about like climate change and you know, just dismissing it
Speaker 1: as like an activist thing. That's that's the thing that
Speaker 1: I'm noticing more and more popular, and the mainstream is like, yeah,
Speaker 1: and sure, climate activists will tell you that this is
Speaker 1: something to be worried about. But this time he came
Speaker 1: through with a story where he was he was quoting
Speaker 1: a study from Oxford that it is basically like masks
Speaker 1: don't really work, or we don't the study, like the
Speaker 1: actual abstract of the study was like we don't have
Speaker 1: evidence that masks work. And when people who understand how
Speaker 1: studies work like dug into it, they were like, this
Speaker 1: is a study that should basically be read as there
Speaker 1: haven't been enough good mask studies essentially like that that
Speaker 1: was the conclusion that that was drawn. But that's not
Speaker 1: the tradcath read. That is not the tradcath read. He
Speaker 1: he need to take that up with your boss, the Pope, Jack,
Speaker 1: like this seems like a problem. It does, and yeah,
Speaker 1: you know you but my quote is actually that if
Speaker 1: if you have a problem with me, you can take
Speaker 1: that up with my boss, the Pope. I don't take
Speaker 1: things up with him. I'm actually scared of him, right,
Speaker 1: but yes, like, yeah, just the details of the studies
Speaker 1: are all examples where people like didn't have proper education
Speaker 1: on them on like how to use them, or there
Speaker 1: was like no way to guarantee that they were using
Speaker 1: them with any sort of consistency and so like. Basically,
Speaker 1: the two scientific sides of the conversation are like, masks
Speaker 1: work when used correctly and consistently, but mask mandates don't
Speaker 1: work because people don't actually like follow them versus masks work,
Speaker 1: So of course there should be mandates when you're trying
Speaker 1: to prevent the spread of disease. Like, there's never any
Speaker 1: scientists who's coming out and being like, masks themselves never work,
Speaker 1: and why are we even talking about this? But the
Speaker 1: way he opens the article is there is just no
Speaker 1: evidence that they masks make any difference, full stop. And
Speaker 1: I don't know so wild. I'm getting a master's in
Speaker 1: psychology and I'm right now I'm in my research class,
Speaker 1: and so I couldn't be more prepared for this discussion.
Speaker 1: You know, you going to these classes and you're like, oh,
Speaker 1: why would I even need to understand how to read
Speaker 1: a research study? Like, you know, but it's so true
Speaker 1: that like when people like write these like click baity
Speaker 1: articles off of these research studies, it's like they're pulling
Speaker 1: the wrong thing. They don't even understand what the study
Speaker 1: is saying. It's so easy to like trick people, But
Speaker 1: this one feels like especially egregious, and that like the
Speaker 1: study itself wasn't even making the claims that like, let
Speaker 1: alone like that this guy's making, where like some studies
Speaker 1: and themselves are just bad studies. And I think that
Speaker 1: was another big thing is like we just haven't even
Speaker 1: had enough good studies on masks. Like if anything, that
Speaker 1: should just be this should prove that we need to
Speaker 1: like spend more money researching masks so that people will
Speaker 1: believe it. But I also feel like even if we
Speaker 1: did those studies, people who don't want to believe in
Speaker 1: masks would be like, well, those are the fake studies
Speaker 1: right right, which I totally agree, is like complicated by
Speaker 1: a sort of fundamental misunderstanding that like not all studies
Speaker 1: are created equal, They're not all done as broadly and
Speaker 1: how I don't know. I feel like sometimes when like
Speaker 1: I'll go ahead and throw my own mother under the
Speaker 1: bus in this case, like if my mom's coming to
Speaker 1: me with like I saw a study, she'll talk about
Speaker 1: it as if it's like from the University of good
Speaker 1: and accurate science, like just like it was study, therefore
Speaker 1: it must be true with which I did at one time. Also,
Speaker 1: But then it's like the more you look into it's
Speaker 1: like sometimes studies are paid for by people who want
Speaker 1: certain results. The you know, control groups can vary and
Speaker 1: just like all this other stuff that's like more common
Speaker 1: knowledge now. But even so this is like such a
Speaker 1: bad faith reading of a study that we don't even
Speaker 1: know how like well it was conducted. So it's like
Speaker 1: a hat on a hat issue, little pulpe hat on
Speaker 1: a pulp had if you wouldah, And it wasn't even
Speaker 1: a study about COVID, right, it was like done before COVID.
Speaker 1: And yeah, a lot of the studies, a lot of
Speaker 1: the studies that were in the thing were from before
Speaker 1: COVID or like right as COVID was happening and people
Speaker 1: didn't have like any education on how to wear masks
Speaker 1: or like they gave a huge chunk of the population
Speaker 1: of people like traveling to Mecca for the pilgrimage, like
Speaker 1: a bunch of masks and then they were like and
Speaker 1: they actually got COVID more than the other people. But
Speaker 1: it was like they had no control, no understanding, no
Speaker 1: insight into like whether they were wearing them, like if
Speaker 1: they were wearing them the entire twenty four hours, which
Speaker 1: presumably they were not, and it was like not at
Speaker 1: a time when masking was particularly popular. So yeah, it
Speaker 1: just it's a mess. It's like very complicated, and it
Speaker 1: just feels like there is this push in the center
Speaker 1: to like revise things so they're not complicated, and so
Speaker 1: that the government was wrong and doing it too because
Speaker 1: they were mean, because they they're just mean strict parents,
Speaker 1: Like I don't know, I feel like they're working through
Speaker 1: some issues or something. There's also just like this sense
Speaker 1: of like, well, if something is not one hundred percent
Speaker 1: effective all of the time, no matter how I do it,
Speaker 1: then it's useless, right, Like it's like and you see
Speaker 1: that with like vaccines and boosters and all this stuff,
Speaker 1: where it's like, yeah, you know, it's not like when
Speaker 1: you get in a car accident and you still get hurt,
Speaker 1: but you were wearing your seat belt. You're not like, well,
Speaker 1: I'm never gonna wear my seatbelt again, Like yeah, like
Speaker 1: this expectation that like, well, if it doesn't work one
Speaker 1: hundred percent, that it's totally made up and stuff like
Speaker 1: this supports that when like any basic understanding of like
Speaker 1: how germs are transmitted, masks are clearly doing something. Yeah,
Speaker 1: the seat belt was a metaphor that like letter to
Speaker 1: the editor used, like it was universally, like this article
Speaker 1: was panned by scientists. They were like this is crazy
Speaker 1: that but yeah, they were like, so should we stop
Speaker 1: requiring like putting laws in place to wear seat belts
Speaker 1: because sometimes people don't wear them properly and like get
Speaker 1: hurt as a result of that, Which, Yeah, I think
Speaker 1: that's a good metaphor. This is a minion shit, I mean,
Speaker 1: and also it like it, I don't know, there's still
Speaker 1: so many like I've seen a lot of im you know,
Speaker 1: compromise people online being like I'm once again being bullied
Speaker 1: for wearing a mask at the fucking airport, like yes,
Speaker 1: for and this time it's like by people that probably
Speaker 1: wouldn't have been doing that three years ago. It's really
Speaker 1: really bizarre to see that kind of shift. Yeah, that
Speaker 1: seems to be like the aggressive behavior we're seeing is
Speaker 1: not people being like could you wear a mask? It's
Speaker 1: like help, it's people getting mad at people wearing a mask.
Speaker 1: And like, just in my personal life, like that's what
Speaker 1: what I've seen is someone walk in and be like,
Speaker 1: what the fuck we wearing masks? Huh? It's just like
Speaker 1: like what, I just don't and like that. It's kind
Speaker 1: of the same question I have for like a Brett
Speaker 1: Stevenson or you know, any of these people who like
Speaker 1: work for these big you know, centrist journalistic institutions, is like,
Speaker 1: what do you think you're helping here by like trying
Speaker 1: to shame people for having suggested like we know that
Speaker 1: they help people sometimes, so like what exactly are is
Speaker 1: your angle here? Is kind of right question that comes
Speaker 1: up a lot. It just seems like annoyance. It's like
Speaker 1: a way for people not to feel bad about their choices, right,
Speaker 1: because if masks don't work, then I don't have to
Speaker 1: feel bad that I'm not wearing a mask. And I
Speaker 1: think that that's really been at least like you know,
Speaker 1: my theory like seeing being like one of the last
Speaker 1: people I know that's still mad masks, even though I'm
Speaker 1: surrounded by liberal minded people, people who took COVID very
Speaker 1: seriously at the beginning, to see them all sort of
Speaker 1: drop off on wearing masks, and I think it is
Speaker 1: like almost this exhaustion of like I can no longer
Speaker 1: mentally tolerate the idea that I need to mask or
Speaker 1: that COVID is still real, and therefore I'm going to
Speaker 1: I have to believe that it's not, so then I
Speaker 1: won't do things that like are scientifically proven to help. Yeah,
Speaker 1: this article was written because audiences want it to be true, essentially. Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 1: There's also a Wall Street Journal article that was like,
Speaker 1: we now believe that COVID was like leaked by a
Speaker 1: lab and wuhan and didn't come from the wet market.
Speaker 1: And it really like the headline really seemed to indicate
Speaker 1: that this was like settled, and then all of the
Speaker 1: follow ups are like, this is still like an active
Speaker 1: debate where most of the evidence suggests like the actual
Speaker 1: like the normal version of events that we got was
Speaker 1: the right one, Like all the early cases seemed to
Speaker 1: cluster around this wet market. And yes, there is a
Speaker 1: lab that would be a candidate for like leaking this
Speaker 1: sort of thing in Wuhan, But that doesn't mean that
Speaker 1: it happened that way. And even and like the Wall
Speaker 1: Street Journal headline made it seem like this is settled,
Speaker 1: but then the report again that they were talking about
Speaker 1: like was they were like, we suspect this with a
Speaker 1: very low level of certainty. It just gets filtered back
Speaker 1: to being yeah, we we figured it out. Racists were right. Well,
Speaker 1: it was like, it's like, and for those of us
Speaker 1: with brains that are so tiny, what is the ideological
Speaker 1: advantage of this being true versus the wet market can
Speaker 1: blame China? Yeah, okay, just confermo. Yeah, so that's what
Speaker 1: the Wall Street Journal is going to do today. Cool? Yeah,
Speaker 1: yeah that it was like China was working on this
Speaker 1: virus that got out of their lab, and so it
Speaker 1: can one hundred percent put the blame on them, and
Speaker 1: like their massive cover up of what happened. It's interesting
Speaker 1: because the story keeps coming back, right, like we had
Speaker 1: the Vanity Fair article a few months ago, and now
Speaker 1: it's like getting on Wall Street Journal, and it is
Speaker 1: this interesting thing of like if it ends up being true,
Speaker 1: I'm very scared, Like I don't want it to be true,
Speaker 1: because then I think it will just lead to so
Speaker 1: much like racism and anti Asian hate and like strange relations,
Speaker 1: and like I much prefer that it just like was
Speaker 1: transferred from animals to humans at a wet market, like
Speaker 1: that feels like, you know. But then I'm sometimes like, oh, well,
Speaker 1: do I have to like allow for the possibility that
Speaker 1: this could be true since all these major news organizations
Speaker 1: keep talking about it, right, But like they keep talking
Speaker 1: about it, but they have yet to prove it in
Speaker 1: any definitive way, right, like with the same level of
Speaker 1: accusatory like baselessness that they did three years ago. Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 1: And I mean like when you look at what scientists
Speaker 1: were warning about and like before COVID happened, like they
Speaker 1: were all about, like, yeah, this zoological like the leap
Speaker 1: from animals to humans is the most likely way that
Speaker 1: this is going to happen. And but when you look
Speaker 1: at like how how it happens. Usually in like movies
Speaker 1: like Twelve Monkeys or something like it's it's a science
Speaker 1: like an evil scientist wanting to hurt people, And so
Speaker 1: I feel like there's something about that version of events
Speaker 1: that is just like I don't know, like more narratively appealing,
Speaker 1: and the right is trying to like hapitalize on that
Speaker 1: to drive up the racism industry. I don't know. Well,
Speaker 1: then it's also feels more preventable in the future, right
Speaker 1: if it was just like this lab leak from a
Speaker 1: foreign government versus true, these diseases passed from animals to
Speaker 1: humans kind of naturally, and that's something that can keep happening.
Speaker 1: It again, is like a way to like feel safer
Speaker 1: or something, and then kind of tying it all together
Speaker 1: and the pop culture realm Woody Harrelson's SNL monologue was
Speaker 1: this weird rambling anecdote with a punchline that was basically
Speaker 1: just like the vaccine. So he was like the biggest
Speaker 1: drug cartel. He was like, imagine a world or he said,
Speaker 1: I have a script where the biggest drug cartel in
Speaker 1: the world get together and buy up all the media
Speaker 1: and all the politicians and force all the people in
Speaker 1: the world to stay locked in their homes and people
Speaker 1: can only come out if they take the cartel's drugs
Speaker 1: and keep them keep taking them over and over. Who's
Speaker 1: gonna believe that crazy idea. Yeah, he also called himself
Speaker 1: a Marxist while he was like doing this, which Brett,
Speaker 1: that's like, I mean, I guess I don't know. I
Speaker 1: don't know much about the politics of Woody Harrelson, and
Speaker 1: I stand by not knowing that that's a strong decision.
Speaker 1: That is such like lazy word salad. That again, it's
Speaker 1: just like that's just like not someone you expect to
Speaker 1: hear that kind of bullshit from. Yeah, very bizarre. The
Speaker 1: whole monologue. I was like, who approved this, Like who
Speaker 1: wrote this and approved it? Like what did he just
Speaker 1: go rogue? It was like so kind of like stumbling
Speaker 1: and strange and yeah, I mean, and then Elon Musk
Speaker 1: being like this was a great monologue. That's like that
Speaker 1: to me is like just like if you had any
Speaker 1: doubt about whether it sucked, right, that's the new fear.
Speaker 1: I feel like it's like if Elon Musk will approve
Speaker 1: of what you've done, you're like no, no, no no, no,
Speaker 1: no no. I wanted so much more from him after
Speaker 1: I saw a triangle of sadness when he was like
Speaker 1: a socialist boat captain who just like right, who like
Speaker 1: has like coherent perspectives, but of course in America, Like
Speaker 1: it's going to be more like somebody who's you know,
Speaker 1: listened to too many episodes of Joe Rogan and it
Speaker 1: thinks that that makes him like a freethinker. But yeah.
Speaker 1: He has previously posted about the theory that five G
Speaker 1: is exacerbating the COVID outbreak, and once signed up to
Speaker 1: co star in a movie that was just like Twelve
Speaker 1: Angry Men but made by nine to eleven Truthers. So
Speaker 1: he yeah, like I had the same reaction where I
Speaker 1: was like, not Woody, and it's like, oh, he's been
Speaker 1: wood He's been Harold, Haroldsonning, He's been Harold. His brain's
Speaker 1: been boiling in that in that big old head. Yeah,
Speaker 1: well that's a damn shame. Yeah. Also, the oh Man
Speaker 1: twelve Angry Men by nine to eleven Truthers does sound
Speaker 1: like a really solid thirty rock fake thing. Absolutely the
Speaker 1: world has turned into thirty rock. Also, his dad is
Speaker 1: one of the suspects in the JFK assassinment, like in
Speaker 1: a bunch of JFK assassination really theories. Yeah, this is
Speaker 1: why his dad like murdered a very famous judge. Yeah, Um,
Speaker 1: which is like a whole nother Banana's backstory to Woody
Speaker 1: Harolds Woody Harrolson is murder, nepotism. Yeah, yeah, that's right,
Speaker 1: wild wow. Yeah, I'm confused and I feel lost. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know, but I do think that
Speaker 1: there is just an overall movement towards the right, like
Speaker 1: that's happening in the mainstream culture, because the American like
Speaker 1: media and like the American sort of central ethos like
Speaker 1: Jack's socialism as a as anything serious, anything that could
Speaker 1: be taken seriously, and so the other option is like
Speaker 1: leaning towards the right and like slowly moving everything towards
Speaker 1: the right. And so it just feels like people are
Speaker 1: still like man, Trump, Trump's an idiot, right, but they're
Speaker 1: just these like tiny like baby steps that are being
Speaker 1: taken by what is supposed to be the center. And
Speaker 1: it's a fucking bummer. But I think probably is where
Speaker 1: things are headed more and more. Unfortunately. I wonder, like
Speaker 1: on the set of Saturday Night Live, if there was
Speaker 1: like pushback that this was going to be their monologue,
Speaker 1: you know, like, how does the cast and writers feel
Speaker 1: about that that this show is becoming more moderated to
Speaker 1: the right and everything. Yeah, given the makeup of that room.
Speaker 1: I would assume that there is, but I don't really
Speaker 1: know where like the buck stops in that situation. Like
Speaker 1: Pedro Pescal's monologue from a couple of weeks ago was
Speaker 1: clearly him just like telling a story that he tells
Speaker 1: to people because like it's charming in person, and like
Speaker 1: it's just like famous people tell them. They're like famous
Speaker 1: people stories that everyone's charmed by. And so I wonder,
Speaker 1: like if that is a genre of like monologue that
Speaker 1: they have of just like just let wood he get
Speaker 1: up there and do his thing. In this case, it
Speaker 1: was ill advised, but the studio audience was like, huh,
Speaker 1: Like even though there's like a giant sign that's like
Speaker 1: clap laugh, like blasting them in the face, you know,
Speaker 1: they were still kind of like the will When there
Speaker 1: was ever a punchline, you could tell there was just
Speaker 1: like relief from the audience. Yeah, but that's like, okay,
Speaker 1: this is I'm meant to laugh here. Because he didn't
Speaker 1: sort of know what to do with the rest of it.
Speaker 1: It's like and I still smoke weed though, and everyone
Speaker 1: like yeah, yes, that is what kind of cultural right.
Speaker 1: All right, let's take a quick break we'll come back.
Speaker 1: We'll talk a little Cocaine Bear. We'll be right back
Speaker 1: and we're back. And so Cocaine Bear came out last weekend.
Speaker 1: I think it did pretty well. I actually don't know.
Speaker 1: I usually yeah, it came out. It did like did
Speaker 1: well right behind Aunt Man seven or whatever, right, the
Speaker 1: one that like made everybody just be like, I don't know, man,
Speaker 1: I'm out. Yeah. We always think it's the one that
Speaker 1: says it makes people say I don't know man, it
Speaker 1: I'm out. But then they're like, well, it made a
Speaker 1: billion dollars, so yeah, you have to watch seven more.
Speaker 1: It is doing pretty well. Yeah, so Cocaine Barry debuted
Speaker 1: with twenty three million, So that's that's pretty good. It's
Speaker 1: like it seems like it's escaped the Snakes on a
Speaker 1: Plane curse, where it's like if the Internet loves the
Speaker 1: thing and says they're gonna go see a movie, they
Speaker 1: actually won't so you can just ignore it. Seems like
Speaker 1: they kind of got this one right by just making
Speaker 1: it super fun. So I still haven't seen it. Jam
Speaker 1: a writer saw it, and yeah, so first of all,
Speaker 1: I do just want to continue with So JM argues
Speaker 1: that this whole thing is a metaphor for COVID and
Speaker 1: like the uncertainty around that and just like a thing
Speaker 1: happening that like our brains can't make sense of. I also,
Speaker 1: just so the Wall Street Journal, not to keep picking
Speaker 1: on the Journal here, but they dropped a story on people,
Speaker 1: like an alert that was like the true story behind
Speaker 1: Cocaine Bears, even crazier than the movie, which is a
Speaker 1: movie in which a bear and just a bunch of
Speaker 1: cocaine and gets superpowers. Like what was what was wilder
Speaker 1: about it? According to The Wall Street It's their explanation
Speaker 1: was that like an an ad guy mate, they were
Speaker 1: like that. So part of the backstories that they have
Speaker 1: the actual cocaine bear at this Lexanan Kentucky museum, the Lexanan,
Speaker 1: Kentucky's fun Mall, which is an intriguing place having fun
Speaker 1: and is very smart marketing. Yeah, just a fun mall.
Speaker 1: Hopefully not a yeah, hopefully not a promised that backfires.
Speaker 1: So it's just made up by some ad executives like that.
Speaker 1: So there was a bunch of cocaine drop from a
Speaker 1: plane in Georgia. They found the cocaine and a bear
Speaker 1: next to it that had eaten some of the cocaine,
Speaker 1: and that is the extent of the story. And then
Speaker 1: two Kentucky ad execs were like, wouldn't it be funny
Speaker 1: if we took this taxidermy bear that we have and
Speaker 1: put it in our thing instead it was Cocaine Bear.
Speaker 1: And that is the story that the Wall Street Journal
Speaker 1: claimed is crazier than a bear actually ingesting pounds of
Speaker 1: cocaine and getting superpowers. I mean the Wall Street Journal,
Speaker 1: in addition to having a lot of bad journalism, they're
Speaker 1: also just fucking dorks. So of course they would think
Speaker 1: this boring ass story is more interesting than the plot
Speaker 1: of Cocaine Bear. Yeah, I do. I do think that
Speaker 1: this um, this bear taxidermy in Kentucky is fun. It's
Speaker 1: wearing a little hat and yea a red gold chain,
Speaker 1: which is fun. Something that has changed about me recently
Speaker 1: is that I'm really into like seeing taxidermy in a
Speaker 1: public place. I'm like very ready for it as long
Speaker 1: as it was like, as long as it was ethically done.
Speaker 1: And I do ask every mall manager and every airport
Speaker 1: manager that has but I've been to a couple airports
Speaker 1: recently that have taxidermy there, and uh, I like it
Speaker 1: and I took a taxidermy class myself and I liked
Speaker 1: it is fun. Wow, what a turn for you think
Speaker 1: different finding a bear that overdosed on cocaine in the
Speaker 1: woods and then stuffing it. Is that ethical? Well, it's
Speaker 1: like more depends on like what species the bear was.
Speaker 1: There's like a bunch of time I've read a lot
Speaker 1: about taxidermyla. It depends on like what species of the
Speaker 1: bear was. As long as it wasn't you know, killed
Speaker 1: to be stuffed. That's obviously like the biggest ethical issue.
Speaker 1: But if it died as natural causes or even cocaine causes,
Speaker 1: it just really can't be taxidermy causes that I think
Speaker 1: taxidermay just like freaks a lot of people out, which
Speaker 1: is understandable, and you obviously shouldn't kill an animal specifically
Speaker 1: to stuff it, right, But you know, cocaine bear lives
Speaker 1: on in a way in the fun mall question mark.
Speaker 1: Maybe better places for it, but maybe not. That's fine.
Speaker 1: I'm open to being taxidermy, Okay, any particular airport that
Speaker 1: you want to see yourself displayed that I think Logan
Speaker 1: International and the Jet Blue terminal would be good. Oh
Speaker 1: you had that answer? Ready to go near the legal
Speaker 1: sea foods if possible. And what would the display like,
Speaker 1: what would be happening and during the display, like what
Speaker 1: would you be teaching? Would you be podcasting? Would you
Speaker 1: be No, I think it's pretty similar to cacaine. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I would be. Yeah, I'd be wearing a hat and
Speaker 1: a gold chain. Yeahs look like someone who partied too hard. Yeah, yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1: I'd like to really get a retroactive party girl personality
Speaker 1: when I die. Yeah, that is fun. Yeah. Elizabeth Banks
Speaker 1: has said that she responded to the script because she
Speaker 1: read it at the beginning of So Elizabeth Banks is
Speaker 1: the director, and she read the script at the beginning
Speaker 1: of the pandemic and thought that quote there was no
Speaker 1: greater metaphor for the chaos that we were all feeling
Speaker 1: in twenty twenty than a bear high on cocaine, which
Speaker 1: I like, I do think that this has to happen. Right.
Speaker 1: We've been talking about how like during the Iraq War,
Speaker 1: the Second Iraq War, like nobody was really seeing movies
Speaker 1: about the Iraq War, but like everybody was watching like
Speaker 1: these torture porn movies and then like fast zombie movies
Speaker 1: and like that. So I don't know if like drug
Speaker 1: crazed animal is going to be the next like version
Speaker 1: of that that we use to like deal with our complicated,
Speaker 1: unacknowledged angst around the pandemic. But there seems to be
Speaker 1: like an argument for it. I don't. I think I'm
Speaker 1: gonna have to see the movie to fully understand, like
Speaker 1: what what exactly it is about it that is evoking COVID.
Speaker 1: But I think it's like the unpredictability, Like I've never
Speaker 1: dealt with a bear on cocaine before. What what do
Speaker 1: I do to protect myself? Right? Yeah? Yeah? Do you
Speaker 1: run away? Do you lie down? Like if you climb
Speaker 1: a t tree? Like bears can't climb trees? Right? Oh
Speaker 1: wait when they're on cocaine, they actually can according to
Speaker 1: this movie. But the I mean in real life, the
Speaker 1: bear just immediately died. It seems just died. Yeah, it
Speaker 1: was really sad, I know. Yeah. I would also watch
Speaker 1: the sun Dance Sleeper hit about the bear that eats
Speaker 1: cocaine and just dies sadly. Right, it's more of a
Speaker 1: family drama. U. I honestly, I haven't seen it yet.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna see it this week, but I don't know
Speaker 1: like I this movie and a couple of different movies
Speaker 1: that have done well recently. Just I feel like it's
Speaker 1: like these feel like depression movies. Basically, we're like movies
Speaker 1: that don't have anything to do with anything really and
Speaker 1: they're just like fun and distracting and they're just like
Speaker 1: big goofy movies that are about whatever. Like I felt
Speaker 1: the same way about Like, And that's not to say
Speaker 1: that that genre of movie can't be saying some thing,
Speaker 1: and like I take Elizabeth's Banks at her word there,
Speaker 1: but it's like the same thing with like Megan like
Speaker 1: did incredibly well recently, and like that does have like
Speaker 1: some commentary, but it's mostly just like I want to
Speaker 1: see the robot dance and kill someone in an elevator
Speaker 1: and that would make me feel good on a Tuesday night,
Speaker 1: to distract from the world falling apart. I like that
Speaker 1: genre of movie. I'm glad Cocaine Bear people are liking it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Megan is truly at its best when she's dancing and
Speaker 1: just like putting on cool sunglasses. It's really a lot
Speaker 1: of fun. I saw a very online video on Twitter
Speaker 1: of the of Megan dancing to the Ariana Debos rap.
Speaker 1: She's doing flips to Angela Bassett did the thing. It
Speaker 1: was very exciting the internet. Yeah, yeah, well so we
Speaker 1: at least the Wall Street Journal totally fucking up reporting
Speaker 1: on the movie is another way that we can add
Speaker 1: to the the idea that the Cocaine Bear represents COVID
Speaker 1: and our experience with that. Allison, truly a pleasure having
Speaker 1: you on the daily zeitgeist as always, Where can people
Speaker 1: find you? Follow you, read your words, all that good stuff. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I have a weekly podcast called Just Between Us that
Speaker 1: has its main episodes on Wednesdays and then also like
Speaker 1: a fun Reddit exploration episode on Mondays. And then you
Speaker 1: can check out my book over Thinking about you Navigating
Speaker 1: Romantic Relationships when you have anxiety, OCD and or depression.
Speaker 1: Pretty much anywhere books are sold. There you go and
Speaker 1: is there a tweet or a work of media that
Speaker 1: you've been enjoying. Well, I found this tweet that I
Speaker 1: thought was just so lovely from Jack Kalil and it said,
Speaker 1: my mom started painting in her late fifties after an
Speaker 1: ever having done before, and this utterly distinct style has
Speaker 1: flown out of her and it's taken. I'm real convincing
Speaker 1: to make her believe that she's genuinely talented and these
Speaker 1: are real art and I just wanted to share them.
Speaker 1: And then he shared like four screenshots of like these
Speaker 1: really beautiful paintings and the tweets like blown up and
Speaker 1: has like over almost like two hundred and ninety thousand likes,
Speaker 1: and so I just like like to imagine like this
Speaker 1: like woman seeing her paintings getting the credit that they deserve.
Speaker 1: It brings me joy. Amazing. Jamie Loftus, where can people
Speaker 1: find you? And is there a workimedia you've been enjoying? Ah? Yeah,
Speaker 1: you can follow me on Twitter still at Jamie Loftus,
Speaker 1: help Instagram, Jamie Cary Superstar, listen to the Bechtel Cast,
Speaker 1: listen to any podcast you want, really and then buy
Speaker 1: Raw Dog, my book about hot dogs on May twenty three.
Speaker 1: You can preorder it now and you should go do that,
Speaker 1: and you you absolutely should right now. It's very good.
Speaker 1: It's so good. Oh yeah, you guys are exciting. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and we just revealed like the hardcover art today, so
Speaker 1: I'm really excited about it. The tweet I am enjoying
Speaker 1: is from Jacob Aller at Jacob aler O l e R.
Speaker 1: I don't know why Jacob was watching a it seems
Speaker 1: like a silent film about whalers, but he posted some
Speaker 1: screenshots and captions. That whaling slang still goes because it's
Speaker 1: like two whaling captain's shaking hands and then the they
Speaker 1: say farewell captain, greasy luck. And I want to integrate
Speaker 1: that into my my daily. That's my new that's my
Speaker 1: new email. Sign up greasy luck. Unto you, Yeah, very luck.
Speaker 1: Do you have a problem with me? Talk to my boss,
Speaker 1: the Pope, and please sign all your emails like tweet.
Speaker 1: I've been enjoying Loan af Chen tweeted forty four year
Speaker 1: old guy at your work who says metric fuck ton.
Speaker 1: It's about a bear who does cocaine. Yeah you heard
Speaker 1: that right. I just thought that was Yeah. I love
Speaker 1: that guy who says the metric fuck ton all the time.
Speaker 1: You can find me on Twitter at Jack Underscore O'Brien.
Speaker 1: You can find us on Twitter at Daily Zeitgeist. We're
Speaker 1: at the Daily Zeitgeist on Instagram. We have a Facebook
Speaker 1: fan page on a website, Daily zeitgeist dot com, where
Speaker 1: we post our episodes and our footnotes where we link
Speaker 1: off the information that we talked about in today's episode,
Speaker 1: as well as a song that we think you might enjoy.
Speaker 1: Super producer justin what is a song that we think
Speaker 1: people might enjoy? Well, this is a track that I
Speaker 1: thought was very touching and charming. Um. This is a
Speaker 1: song by Ella j which is Jay Dilla's younger brother.
Speaker 1: It's a song called Maureen that's just an homage to
Speaker 1: their mother and it's very It's just very nice and
Speaker 1: it's got a cool style where it's got like this
Speaker 1: boom bap like soul full style. It kind of reminds
Speaker 1: me of old Kanye West before he turned into a
Speaker 1: fucking super villain speaking of minions. My god. But yeah,
Speaker 1: but I love this track. It's got a lot of
Speaker 1: heart and Yeah, if you want to check this out,
Speaker 1: it's called Maureen by Ella Ja and you can find
Speaker 1: that song in the footnotes good Notes. The Daily Zeka
Speaker 1: is a production of iHeartRadio from more podcast from my
Speaker 1: Heart Radio, visit the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcast, or wherever
Speaker 1: you listen to your favorite shows. That is going to
Speaker 1: do it for us this morning, back this afternoon to
Speaker 1: tell you what is trending, and we'll talk to you
Speaker 1: all then fight, Hey