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Speaker 1: This is our life, this is our passion. That's the

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Speaker 1: spirit we bring to this show. I'm Luke Thomas, I'm

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Speaker 1: Brian Campbell. This this Morning Combat.

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Speaker 2: It is Wednesday, the eighteenth of November twenty twenty, and

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Speaker 2: then it is time everyone for Morning Combat. Hello, I'm

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Speaker 2: happy hump Day. Guess what day it is? Guess what

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Speaker 2: day it is. My name is Luke Thomas and from

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Speaker 2: CBS Sports. I am joined by the gentleman, not merely

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Speaker 2: on the other side of the screen, frankly on the

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Speaker 2: other side of the world. He is my CBS Sports

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Speaker 2: partner in crime, my friend, and yours BC Brian Campbell.

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Speaker 2: How is the Left Coast, mister Campbell.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I feel like I'm one half of the Java

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Speaker 3: Jerk spinoff series that you do. I'm doing great, Luke,

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Speaker 3: fantastic jet lag like a mofo ready to catch checks

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Speaker 4: That's how I get down, Luke.

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Speaker 3: I just want to warn the viewers that although we're

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Speaker 3: going to be very excited about this episode of there's

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Speaker 3: a no Jay Wednesday. So you know that means Luke,

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Speaker 3: you're very pissy this Morning Luke very pissy.

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Speaker 2: All right, I've got a few things going on. I'm

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Speaker 2: just trying to deal with. But for the folks out

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Speaker 2: the West Coast and what they can expect from that.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I'm out here on the West Coast

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Speaker 3: living my morning combat dreams. But more specifically, Thursday night,

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Speaker 3: nine pm etern NBC Sports launch of the new boxing

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Speaker 3: series Ring City USA, which is promoter agnostic, going to

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Speaker 3: on Thursday Night's card. So I'll be out there working

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Speaker 3: that broadcast, still hustling, still.

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Speaker 4: Getting your what you need, which is morning combat. And

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Speaker 4: if you haven't checked out, the MK YouTube.

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Speaker 3: Channel did a little four pack of interviews yesterday. Luke Valentina, Chefchenko,

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Speaker 3: very sneaky, good interview, if you know what I mean,

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Speaker 3: and Jennifer Maya, Alex Perez Davison figuredo shirtless, what else

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Speaker 4: I got it? Okay, bro' that's what's happening.

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Speaker 2: Fair enough and asked four pack there, good luck tomorrow.

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Speaker 2: I'll give you one hundred dollars if you refer to

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Speaker 2: me not as your co host but as co hosts.

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Speaker 3: If you do that as America Cash as America's co

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Speaker 4: Is my co pilot when I'm on the road, Luke.

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Speaker 3: But in a lot of ways, this is you, right,

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Speaker 3: BC Live in Waveos.

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Speaker 4: Brother. What else?

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Speaker 3: What other hotel in the world's gonna give you two

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Speaker 3: gross eggs in a wet bag, Luke.

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Speaker 4: Okay, that's the one I'm staying at right now.

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Speaker 2: Okay, Yeah, I'm glad that where you go, BC, you

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Speaker 3: One more little drop, Luke, the people need to wake

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Speaker 3: up and get ready because this morning combat donumentary about

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Speaker 3: our return to civilization, our return to the bomb shelter.

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Speaker 3: I hear a little birdie in my ear telling me

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Speaker 3: it will be live Thursday, that is.

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Speaker 4: Tomorrow, So get buckled up. Luke.

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Speaker 3: You told me you were not pleasantly surprised, astronomically surprised

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Speaker 3: at the ability of our friends at Malko to put

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Speaker 2: As you know, I am a skeptic of anything ever,

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Speaker 2: by tomorrow. Of course, my life chat will be out

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Speaker 2: the US there's a UFC pay per view this week BC,

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Speaker 2: and there's less than zero buzzz for it. It's kind

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Speaker 2: our biggest topic, the juiciest, the mediast. There is some

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Speaker 2: congratulations in order, not really to Brian Campbell for getting

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Speaker 2: Max Holloway, who of course got engaged at least announced

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Speaker 2: it yesterday on social media, So congrats to him and BC.

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Speaker 2: He is back in action January sixteenth. He's going to

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Speaker 2: about at featherweight against Calvin Cater. Yes, now it'll be

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Speaker 2: He decided to stay at featherweight. So let's start here, first,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, first of all, Luke, I hope you're talking about

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Speaker 3: sites Taichi Palace might be in play, who knows, but uh,

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Speaker 4: But just you know, another fight we haven't seen.

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Speaker 4: Max I think is making the right move, Luke. Now, look,

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Speaker 3: Max is an all time great. I mean, it took

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Speaker 3: too long. Once again, this is the right fight to

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Speaker 3: get him back into that picture Cater the Boston Strangler

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Speaker 3: on a night, little hot streak himself. You know he's

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Speaker 3: to be all action, all the time. So Luke, I'm

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, in terms of the fight itself, I

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Speaker 2: I mean, Calvin Cator has earned this opportunity, right beating

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Speaker 2: And both are durable. Both are experienced, both in different

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Speaker 2: I mean, I like the fight for all those reasons.

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Speaker 2: I have mixed feelings about Max staying at featherweight, and

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Speaker 2: I'll say it with this way BC. In the end,

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Speaker 2: I think it's the right call because going to lightweight,

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Speaker 2: big firepower, to be clear, but it just looked like

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Speaker 2: that's not the right weight class for them. And this

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Speaker 2: know what I mean, Like Benson Henderson against Koreshkov, You're like,

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Speaker 2: it's just it's just too much of a leap. And

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Speaker 2: so I don't know that it's on that level, but

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Speaker 2: I feel like parts of that are there. In other words,

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Speaker 2: I would say. He'll beat good guys at one fifty five.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if he'll be the best guy at

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Speaker 2: But I think it's probably the right call, b see,

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Speaker 2: because while for now he can still make one forty five,

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Speaker 2: even if it's hard, I don't want to say that

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Speaker 2: there's uncertainty at the top. In fact, I think Volkanovsky's

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Speaker 2: going to be very very hard to beat, but Max

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Speaker 2: got pretty close, not once but twice. Maybe Brian or

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Speaker 2: Tega will, maybe somebody else will come along. I don't know.

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Speaker 2: But if one fifty five is still for now a

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Speaker 2: bridge too far, you were this close to Volkanovsky before,

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Speaker 2: you're still a fan favorite in many ways, why not

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Speaker 2: see what is possible. He took a break, he's gonna

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Speaker 2: have a break up until you know, well, not a break.

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Speaker 2: He's gonna be in camp, but you know he's not

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Speaker 2: taking a munch of damage. And I think that getting

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Speaker 3: There's some unique elements to it in that regard, especially

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Speaker 3: So I think he's right in the thick of it, Luke,

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Speaker 4: The fight's fantastic there.

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Speaker 3: I still have to find out how great Zabe is,

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Speaker 2: But the thing is, here's what I wonder it's like.

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Speaker 2: But here's a little bit of like. The whole idea is, there's, okay,

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Speaker 2: And to your point, I think he actually might get

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Speaker 4: He's just a guy that can.

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Speaker 4: Guess what I'll predict the future for you. He's gonna

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Speaker 4: Who's gonna get Is it be gonna go right to

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Speaker 3: Figure he's gonna be right back in there. I cannot

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Speaker 3: Not I'm not bet physically, but you know, making picks

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Speaker 4: And I respect that, Luke. Okay, Uh, I.

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Speaker 3: Bet against Max and something like eight consecutive fights, Luke,

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Speaker 4: Look, I mean, here's the deal.

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Speaker 3: As much as I'm prepared right now to hijack this

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Speaker 4: Three three of these, three of these just not it's

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Speaker 4: I cannot believe it happened, Luke.

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Speaker 3: It's it's really really it's really ridiculous. But yeah, back

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Speaker 2: about probability, I just want to make that clear. But

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Speaker 2: the Max PARBC, I mean, here's here's what I mean.

434
00:19:07,880 --> 00:19:09,720
Speaker 2: I'm just trying to think about all the different possibilities

435
00:19:09,720 --> 00:19:11,399
Speaker 2: that we have to encounter, and I think you're right.

436
00:19:11,440 --> 00:19:14,160
Speaker 2: I think he probably will beat Cater. At which point

437
00:19:14,359 --> 00:19:17,840
Speaker 2: do they give another title shot? Probably maybe, unless something

438
00:19:17,880 --> 00:19:19,720
Speaker 2: happens in the intern. I'm not sure who else is

439
00:19:19,720 --> 00:19:22,359
Speaker 2: like banging down the door at this point. Tkse's loss

440
00:19:22,520 --> 00:19:24,919
Speaker 2: to Brian Ortega was pretty thorough, so he's kind of

441
00:19:24,960 --> 00:19:27,040
Speaker 2: lost a bit of the buzz that he was riding.

442
00:19:27,160 --> 00:19:29,080
Speaker 2: So let's say they give it to Max. Now let's

443
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Speaker 2: go even further BC. What would it say about a

444
00:19:32,040 --> 00:19:35,280
Speaker 2: guy who had two losses to the same guy, however

445
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Speaker 2: disputed you want to call them, they are losses on

446
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Speaker 2: the record, stayed in the division, didn't change weight classes,

447
00:19:41,920 --> 00:19:44,600
Speaker 2: stuck it out, and then actually found a way to win.

448
00:19:44,720 --> 00:19:47,080
Speaker 2: I have to tell you, for a guy in the

449
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Speaker 2: Rich Franklin position that he seems to be in, we

450
00:19:51,080 --> 00:19:54,040
Speaker 2: don't know for sure, it seems to be for him

451
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Speaker 2: to do that and then reclaim the title. And I

452
00:19:56,440 --> 00:19:58,679
Speaker 2: know we are very much getting ahead of ourselves, but

453
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Speaker 2: trying to game this out, that would be one of

454
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Speaker 2: the more difficult, if frankly unheard of, things we've ever

455
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Speaker 2: seen in UFC history. I'm struggling to think of a

456
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Speaker 2: scenario where a guy was a champion who had multiple defenses,

457
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Speaker 2: lost it multiple times, or not lost it, but lost

458
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Speaker 2: a fight multiple times to the same opponent who took

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Speaker 2: the title, and then a third time he came back

460
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Speaker 2: around in the same weight class and got it back

461
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Speaker 2: to That would be that would be a singular achievement,

462
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Speaker 2: not merely in featherweight history. But honestly, I think MM look.

463
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Speaker 3: Could kind of be like wand Menuel Marquez right thinking

464
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Speaker 3: he got screwed with the draw against Pacquiao, losing decisions

465
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Speaker 3: in the second and third fight against Pacquiao that were

466
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Speaker 3: razor thin, and then coming back and sending in to

467
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Speaker 3: hell with really one of the greatest punches in boxing

468
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Speaker 3: history in their fourth fight. Yeah, it would be completely

469
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Speaker 3: rare and unique. But I think again the difference is

470
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Speaker 3: a guy like Ace Franklin had to enter into that

471
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Speaker 3: celebrity mode because he got served and sent to hell

472
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Speaker 3: by the active champion not once but twice. A lot

473
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Speaker 3: of these other names you're talking about, they had to

474
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Speaker 3: alter the plans because it wasn't just a loss, it

475
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Speaker 3: was a uh, you know, an era shifting, defining loss,

476
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Speaker 3: like the kind of loss that says this era is

477
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Speaker 3: over and a new one's coming in.

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Speaker 4: For everything great that Volkanowski has done, I love him.

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Speaker 3: Okay, Sidney cut boxing to the goal to the core, brother,

480
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Speaker 3: I don't think this is his area yet.

481
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Speaker 4: Okay.

482
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Speaker 3: It was two very close fights with Max, and because

483
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Speaker 3: Max didn't get completely solved or knocked out, he's still

484
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Speaker 3: rightfully right in this position, in this conversation to get

485
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Speaker 3: another crack at it, but it would be unique. You're

486
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Speaker 3: damn right, Luke. Okay, you're you bet, we got you back.

487
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Speaker 3: You're very angry pre record your back, Luke.

488
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Speaker 4: I love this.

489
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Speaker 2: Uh, I never went anywhere. I never went anywhere. B

490
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Speaker 2: see all right, well, very much looking forward to that.

491
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Speaker 2: We'll see who else they put on that card. I

492
00:21:44,200 --> 00:21:46,560
Speaker 2: just feel like Max Holloway staying at one forty five

493
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Speaker 2: all the risk in the world, even if I think

494
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Speaker 2: it's the right call, but all the possibilities too. He

495
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Speaker 2: could really, he could really redefine I'll say this, I

496
00:21:56,920 --> 00:21:58,400
Speaker 2: don't know if he belongs to be in the Hall

497
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Speaker 2: of Fame, but if he goes out there and beats

498
00:22:00,760 --> 00:22:03,040
Speaker 2: Cater and gets another title shot and beats the winner

499
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Speaker 2: of Ortega and Volkanovski, who I think will be Volkanowski.

500
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Speaker 2: If you go and do that, that's Hall of Fame shit.

501
00:22:09,359 --> 00:22:09,800
Speaker 2: That's right.

502
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Speaker 4: We'll hold all stuff the damn tape.

503
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Speaker 3: Let's get into this a little bit here. A couple

504
00:22:13,880 --> 00:22:16,400
Speaker 3: of points I want to just counter here. You're basically

505
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Speaker 3: saying taking a risk. He's not taking a risk, staying

506
00:22:18,760 --> 00:22:21,920
Speaker 3: a featherway. It's the smarter choice. That's why he's doing it,

507
00:22:22,119 --> 00:22:25,720
Speaker 3: going up to lightweight and facing Ferguson Chandler Porier again,

508
00:22:25,760 --> 00:22:29,600
Speaker 3: although that's taking a risk, bro, he's doing the sort

509
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Speaker 3: of the smartest and safest move. Number two, Look at

510
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Speaker 3: his resume. He's already in the damn Hall of Fame.

511
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Speaker 3: I'm not even fooling around like I was like thirty

512
00:22:36,600 --> 00:22:38,800
Speaker 3: years old. He's already got a Hall of Fame resume.

513
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Speaker 3: Not just in the UFC Hall of Fame rules, which

514
00:22:42,040 --> 00:22:44,280
Speaker 3: is we could put eleven and seven Matt Sarah in

515
00:22:44,560 --> 00:22:48,440
Speaker 3: because we love him, but if the Hall of Fame

516
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Speaker 3: was voted on by us rather than the company itself.

517
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Speaker 4: Luke, look at the damn resume as it stands. Right now.

518
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Speaker 3: Tell me the amount of active fighters who have a

519
00:22:56,640 --> 00:22:59,520
Speaker 3: better resume than Max Holloway right now, tell me, Luke.

520
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Speaker 2: But I mean if we're doing like if we're doing

521
00:23:02,480 --> 00:23:04,800
Speaker 2: the Pro Football because it's actually not the NFL Hall

522
00:23:04,880 --> 00:23:07,359
Speaker 2: of Fame. If we're doing like Pro Football Hall of Fame,

523
00:23:08,080 --> 00:23:11,080
Speaker 2: you know, there's I'm not sure that that would qualify

524
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Speaker 2: to get in. To be honest with you, it's well,

525
00:23:12,480 --> 00:23:13,960
Speaker 2: it all depends on what your standards are. I mean,

526
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Speaker 2: I have the highest respect adds.

527
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Speaker 4: What else does he have to do? Look at the

528
00:23:17,840 --> 00:23:18,880
Speaker 4: damn look at the run.

529
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Speaker 2: This is my point. It's like, dude, what has he done?

530
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Speaker 2: Maybe listen, maybe maybe the case is that he should

531
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Speaker 2: be in the Hall of Fame. I'm not I'm not

532
00:23:24,720 --> 00:23:27,199
Speaker 2: here to argue against it. I'm here to say, let's assume.

533
00:23:27,240 --> 00:23:29,439
Speaker 2: But the sake of argument, that's he's on the bubble, right,

534
00:23:29,560 --> 00:23:32,200
Speaker 2: Let's just assume you go and do something like that

535
00:23:32,240 --> 00:23:35,640
Speaker 2: where you beat Volkanovsky in your third chance, not abandoning

536
00:23:35,680 --> 00:23:37,679
Speaker 2: the weight classes. By the way, there are risks in

537
00:23:37,720 --> 00:23:39,960
Speaker 2: staying with the weight class. There's all kinds of promotional risks.

538
00:23:40,160 --> 00:23:43,640
Speaker 2: You're right beyond that. You're right in saying that it's

539
00:23:43,680 --> 00:23:45,920
Speaker 2: the smarter of the two approaches. I agree, I said

540
00:23:45,920 --> 00:23:48,200
Speaker 2: so up front, But that doesn't make it risk free.

541
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Speaker 2: It makes it all kinds of ways in which your

542
00:23:50,440 --> 00:23:53,200
Speaker 2: stock could drop badly if you lost at one forty

543
00:23:53,200 --> 00:23:55,400
Speaker 2: five versus even went to one fifty five. It took

544
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Speaker 2: on somebody like I don't know, you took them, you know,

545
00:24:01,200 --> 00:24:03,919
Speaker 2: McGregor on late notice or something, and it didn't go well.

546
00:24:04,240 --> 00:24:05,800
Speaker 2: You'd be like, well, you know, one fifty five we

547
00:24:05,880 --> 00:24:07,800
Speaker 2: already know is not really a weight class. Blah blah blah.

548
00:24:07,800 --> 00:24:10,640
Speaker 2: There are. There's a series of challenges associated no matter

549
00:24:10,640 --> 00:24:13,679
Speaker 2: where you go. I'm just pointing out for Max to

550
00:24:13,760 --> 00:24:15,720
Speaker 2: stick it out at one forty five and if he

551
00:24:15,760 --> 00:24:20,200
Speaker 2: can see through this campaign to the ultimate apex point

552
00:24:20,200 --> 00:24:23,119
Speaker 2: that it can be taken. I cannot think of somebody

553
00:24:23,200 --> 00:24:26,000
Speaker 2: else in modern MMA history who can match that achievement.

554
00:24:26,040 --> 00:24:28,919
Speaker 2: And so for those reasons, if it is as unique

555
00:24:28,920 --> 00:24:32,359
Speaker 2: as I think it is, that is the Hall of Fame,

556
00:24:32,720 --> 00:24:35,840
Speaker 2: Golden Ticket times of thousand. At that point, you couldn't

557
00:24:35,840 --> 00:24:36,439
Speaker 2: even argue it.

558
00:24:36,760 --> 00:24:38,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, you're right, but I mean, look at

559
00:24:38,560 --> 00:24:39,119
Speaker 4: it freaking now.

560
00:24:39,160 --> 00:24:43,200
Speaker 3: He finished still prime Jose, although twice twice Luke, Okay,

561
00:24:43,560 --> 00:24:45,520
Speaker 3: good god, pattis good.

562
00:24:45,600 --> 00:24:48,120
Speaker 4: I mean, come on, Ortega, Frank.

563
00:24:47,920 --> 00:24:49,760
Speaker 2: Can we see you eat one of those eggs on

564
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Speaker 2: the air.

565
00:24:50,600 --> 00:24:52,639
Speaker 3: I was just thinking, like, how gross would I be

566
00:24:52,720 --> 00:24:55,240
Speaker 3: for the sake of entertainment? Would I penetrate this bag

567
00:24:55,280 --> 00:24:58,520
Speaker 3: with this coffee stir and simulate the three needle destruction

568
00:24:58,800 --> 00:25:00,800
Speaker 3: and drink the juice out of like I was showing

569
00:25:00,880 --> 00:25:01,360
Speaker 3: up on my own.

570
00:25:01,400 --> 00:25:02,240
Speaker 4: Have you seen this shit?

571
00:25:02,400 --> 00:25:04,800
Speaker 2: You know you got to drink the juice first, because.

572
00:25:04,600 --> 00:25:06,080
Speaker 4: I have a soul. Who the hell? I mean, what

573
00:25:06,200 --> 00:25:08,080
Speaker 4: is this like? Dup?

574
00:25:08,280 --> 00:25:10,480
Speaker 3: I don't want to rip on different cultures? Is this

575
00:25:10,520 --> 00:25:12,800
Speaker 3: breakfast for some people? Look, this is a This is

576
00:25:12,840 --> 00:25:14,040
Speaker 3: obscene where I come from.

577
00:25:14,080 --> 00:25:17,720
Speaker 2: All right, No it's not. That's where you come from.

578
00:25:17,760 --> 00:25:23,000
Speaker 2: That's buddy, you're a trash panda. That is a delicacy,

579
00:25:24,040 --> 00:25:27,200
Speaker 2: all right. Topic number two. Not much to say for

580
00:25:27,280 --> 00:25:29,760
Speaker 2: this one, but worth at least making a note of it.

581
00:25:30,119 --> 00:25:34,040
Speaker 2: Kumara Usman and Gilbert Burns. According to Cambache, it was

582
00:25:34,080 --> 00:25:38,520
Speaker 2: reported that what the UFC is targeting is now February thirteenth,

583
00:25:38,600 --> 00:25:40,879
Speaker 2: So they were originally supposed to fight this year and

584
00:25:40,920 --> 00:25:44,080
Speaker 2: everything kind of got scuttled, and so as a consequence,

585
00:25:44,119 --> 00:25:46,920
Speaker 2: that's when Jorge Maswudal came in because Gilbert Burns got

586
00:25:46,960 --> 00:25:50,119
Speaker 2: COVID and then Masodoal fought Usman. It was not the

587
00:25:50,119 --> 00:25:53,240
Speaker 2: best fight either way. Usbin wins. Okay, they were supposed

588
00:25:53,240 --> 00:25:56,480
Speaker 2: to fight pretty but in close succession to that. But

589
00:25:56,560 --> 00:25:58,440
Speaker 2: Kamara Usman was looking for a little bit more time.

590
00:25:58,480 --> 00:26:02,640
Speaker 2: He was granted it. Okaybrus Weary thirteenth BC. We don't

591
00:26:02,640 --> 00:26:07,280
Speaker 2: have any official wording yet, but A I'd say one A.

592
00:26:07,400 --> 00:26:11,400
Speaker 2: I said one A twenty one gonna be a strong start.

593
00:26:11,440 --> 00:26:13,679
Speaker 2: It looks like if you're gonna get a Conor event

594
00:26:13,800 --> 00:26:16,320
Speaker 2: in January and then this in February, you're talking about

595
00:26:16,320 --> 00:26:17,800
Speaker 2: back to back paper view is pretty strong.

596
00:26:18,040 --> 00:26:21,000
Speaker 3: I think Steep Ganu around that time too, they're looking

597
00:26:21,040 --> 00:26:22,280
Speaker 3: like right, possibly.

598
00:26:21,840 --> 00:26:24,960
Speaker 2: Exactly and b any other thoughts about putting it there

599
00:26:25,080 --> 00:26:26,200
Speaker 2: or the matchup in particular.

600
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Speaker 4: Sorry, I'm just rearranging the tech loos. Good. Yeah, that's great.

601
00:26:31,520 --> 00:26:33,800
Speaker 4: By the way, everyone's ripping on me those four interviews.

602
00:26:33,800 --> 00:26:36,000
Speaker 3: The sound was horrible, I know, because Jay screwed up

603
00:26:36,040 --> 00:26:37,000
Speaker 3: on what he sent me in the mill.

604
00:26:37,000 --> 00:26:39,640
Speaker 4: We're back though, Okay, We're all good now. Yeah, Look

605
00:26:39,680 --> 00:26:41,320
Speaker 4: that's just adding it's just riches.

606
00:26:41,400 --> 00:26:44,080
Speaker 3: It's a delayed fight that we already wanted and uh

607
00:26:44,240 --> 00:26:47,480
Speaker 3: looke on paper seriously here that that fight Burns in

608
00:26:47,920 --> 00:26:50,760
Speaker 3: Usman is as good as any fight UFC can make now,

609
00:26:50,880 --> 00:26:52,240
Speaker 3: just like on the on paper, not on the what

610
00:26:52,440 --> 00:26:55,840
Speaker 3: it'll sell and all that. Uh matching those two guys

611
00:26:55,920 --> 00:26:58,240
Speaker 3: up together, well, the wrestling cancel out, well, Burns have

612
00:26:58,320 --> 00:27:01,960
Speaker 3: an advantage on the feet if that does happen. Just

613
00:27:02,000 --> 00:27:04,200
Speaker 3: the fact that you got the extreme wrestler in Usman

614
00:27:04,280 --> 00:27:05,400
Speaker 3: against the extreme grappler.

615
00:27:05,400 --> 00:27:05,919
Speaker 4: I mean, look, I.

616
00:27:06,440 --> 00:27:09,240
Speaker 3: Cannot wait for that, Luke, And if that ends up

617
00:27:09,280 --> 00:27:11,880
Speaker 3: being in that mix, it's gonna be bangers. I mean, look,

618
00:27:11,920 --> 00:27:13,879
Speaker 3: the one thing we said at the beginning of this

619
00:27:13,920 --> 00:27:17,840
Speaker 3: whole quarantine bonanza was that when these promoters come back,

620
00:27:17,880 --> 00:27:20,880
Speaker 3: and now look UFC barely went away, right, but we said,

621
00:27:20,920 --> 00:27:22,960
Speaker 3: when they do, they're gonna have to pack in great

622
00:27:22,960 --> 00:27:24,640
Speaker 3: fights in a short period of time.

623
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Speaker 4: To get everybody paid to keep the ratings going.

624
00:27:27,680 --> 00:27:31,760
Speaker 3: UFC has already had a hillaciously great time this twenty

625
00:27:31,800 --> 00:27:34,200
Speaker 3: twenty in terms of big fights, what they're putting together

626
00:27:34,320 --> 00:27:36,760
Speaker 3: to start the new year. I'm humbled here, Luke, I'm

627
00:27:36,760 --> 00:27:39,760
Speaker 3: fired up. I'm screwing up this whole thing. But uh yeah,

628
00:27:39,840 --> 00:27:41,280
Speaker 3: that's what I got. Thank you.

629
00:27:41,320 --> 00:27:43,480
Speaker 2: Who do you think the delay benefits more?

630
00:27:46,680 --> 00:27:47,280
Speaker 4: Potentially?

631
00:27:47,320 --> 00:27:50,600
Speaker 3: I actually think it benefits usman more if he's gonna

632
00:27:50,600 --> 00:27:55,320
Speaker 3: be working with Trevor Whitman and it gives them another

633
00:27:55,400 --> 00:27:58,240
Speaker 3: camp because in that short time that they work together, Luke,

634
00:27:58,280 --> 00:28:01,240
Speaker 3: for the Mosmital fight, you really saw an evolutionary at

635
00:28:01,280 --> 00:28:04,520
Speaker 3: least an attempt at evolving his ability to strike and

636
00:28:04,640 --> 00:28:07,680
Speaker 3: game plan and not be just more about the physicality

637
00:28:07,680 --> 00:28:09,840
Speaker 3: of the wrestling and the timing of the takedowns.

638
00:28:10,040 --> 00:28:13,400
Speaker 4: I saw a lot of room for great growth there. Potentially.

639
00:28:13,640 --> 00:28:15,159
Speaker 4: Is he staying with him? Do we know that? I

640
00:28:15,400 --> 00:28:15,840
Speaker 4: have to assume.

641
00:28:16,359 --> 00:28:17,840
Speaker 2: I don't know for sure. That's actually a good question.

642
00:28:17,880 --> 00:28:18,720
Speaker 2: I don't know for sure.

643
00:28:19,440 --> 00:28:21,840
Speaker 3: Okay, we could probably get our friend Rashad Evans to

644
00:28:21,840 --> 00:28:24,240
Speaker 3: break that for us, but yeah, all right.

645
00:28:26,080 --> 00:28:28,760
Speaker 2: Afterwards, yeah, yeah, Well, here's what I would say about it,

646
00:28:28,800 --> 00:28:30,560
Speaker 2: in just sort of thinking about the matchup itself, I

647
00:28:30,560 --> 00:28:34,240
Speaker 2: actually think the delay, depending on how they treat it,

648
00:28:36,080 --> 00:28:39,760
Speaker 2: probably could help. I mean, here's what it'll do. If

649
00:28:39,800 --> 00:28:42,600
Speaker 2: he stays with Trevor Whitman, it will help he and

650
00:28:42,680 --> 00:28:46,000
Speaker 2: Trevor get on a better page than the short amount

651
00:28:46,000 --> 00:28:49,000
Speaker 2: of time they worked together with for what ultimately ended

652
00:28:49,080 --> 00:28:50,280
Speaker 2: up being the mass of all fight. I think I

653
00:28:50,280 --> 00:28:53,680
Speaker 2: would agree with that, but I think overall, in terms

654
00:28:53,760 --> 00:28:58,000
Speaker 2: of the delay, it's better for Gilbert because it's going

655
00:28:58,080 --> 00:29:03,120
Speaker 2: to give him more time to I mean, he is

656
00:29:03,160 --> 00:29:05,040
Speaker 2: still more of a developing talent if you ask me,

657
00:29:05,400 --> 00:29:07,560
Speaker 2: Kamar Usman is more of a finished product. Now. He's

658
00:29:07,600 --> 00:29:11,840
Speaker 2: not finished, but to me, the amount of strides that

659
00:29:11,880 --> 00:29:14,880
Speaker 2: Gilbert has made are incredible, but actually still think he's

660
00:29:14,880 --> 00:29:18,400
Speaker 2: got room to grow. I mean the level of sophistication

661
00:29:18,520 --> 00:29:20,840
Speaker 2: he showed in the striking department against Tyrone Woodley, which

662
00:29:21,040 --> 00:29:23,760
Speaker 2: may not necessarily be available to him given how Kamar

663
00:29:23,840 --> 00:29:27,080
Speaker 2: Rusman fights, but still that level of sophistication is a

664
00:29:27,400 --> 00:29:31,200
Speaker 2: is to me, more sophisticated striking than what Kamaru has

665
00:29:31,400 --> 00:29:31,920
Speaker 2: ever shown.

666
00:29:31,960 --> 00:29:32,040
Speaker 4: Now.

667
00:29:32,080 --> 00:29:33,680
Speaker 2: Kamorrow to me, looks to be more of a heavier

668
00:29:33,760 --> 00:29:36,640
Speaker 2: hitter and uses the fact that he has good defensive

669
00:29:36,640 --> 00:29:39,640
Speaker 2: wrestling and amazing offensive wrestling to kind of sit down

670
00:29:39,680 --> 00:29:41,880
Speaker 2: and not be wild per se. But he doesn't have

671
00:29:41,960 --> 00:29:44,920
Speaker 2: to be as calculating with it, and that's a benefit

672
00:29:44,920 --> 00:29:46,959
Speaker 2: that he gets to enjoy by virtue of the way

673
00:29:47,000 --> 00:29:49,240
Speaker 2: in which he competes. I'm just saying part of the

674
00:29:49,280 --> 00:29:50,920
Speaker 2: way he wins, and this is well known, there's a

675
00:29:50,960 --> 00:29:53,719
Speaker 2: lot of tape on kamar Usman. He kind of not

676
00:29:53,840 --> 00:29:56,840
Speaker 2: spams you, but there's an overall volume of takedown attempts.

677
00:29:56,920 --> 00:30:00,760
Speaker 2: There's sort of a volume of pressure forward. You can

678
00:30:00,840 --> 00:30:03,520
Speaker 2: work on that in one game plan for one camp,

679
00:30:03,680 --> 00:30:05,720
Speaker 2: but now you get two to work on that. I mean,

680
00:30:05,720 --> 00:30:10,160
Speaker 2: to me, Gilbert Burns has more ways to adjust than

681
00:30:10,240 --> 00:30:13,520
Speaker 2: Kumaru Usman does. Kamar Usban to me, can make strategic

682
00:30:13,560 --> 00:30:18,080
Speaker 2: and even tactical adjustments. Gilbert can make those and level

683
00:30:18,160 --> 00:30:21,400
Speaker 2: up his overall game in the process. I actually feel

684
00:30:21,400 --> 00:30:23,320
Speaker 2: like it benefits Gilbert a little bit more. What do

685
00:30:23,320 --> 00:30:23,680
Speaker 2: you make of that?

686
00:30:23,760 --> 00:30:25,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's a fair breakdown right there.

687
00:30:25,400 --> 00:30:26,800
Speaker 3: I mean, look, Gilbert is gonna be one of the

688
00:30:26,840 --> 00:30:29,400
Speaker 3: hotter dogs in these big fights that we sort of

689
00:30:29,440 --> 00:30:30,880
Speaker 3: see on the docket.

690
00:30:30,520 --> 00:30:31,840
Speaker 4: Coming up in the next six months.

691
00:30:32,160 --> 00:30:34,240
Speaker 3: And I do believe, like you're right, we don't know

692
00:30:34,320 --> 00:30:37,920
Speaker 3: how good he actually is because the improvement was so steady.

693
00:30:38,000 --> 00:30:39,080
Speaker 4: Each fight by fight he.

694
00:30:39,080 --> 00:30:41,000
Speaker 3: Got a little bit better, a little bit more confident,

695
00:30:41,200 --> 00:30:43,120
Speaker 3: and that's seemingly the key. Look, he's a really good

696
00:30:43,200 --> 00:30:45,200
Speaker 3: dude on top of that, Luke, we don't say enough

697
00:30:45,200 --> 00:30:47,760
Speaker 3: of that sometimes of the guys that are easy to

698
00:30:47,840 --> 00:30:50,520
Speaker 3: chair for, and Gilbert Burns's is gonna have his moment,

699
00:30:50,520 --> 00:30:52,520
Speaker 3: I cannot wait. Look, I don't know if this is

700
00:30:52,560 --> 00:30:54,800
Speaker 3: gonna be boring, if this is gonna be fireworks, if

701
00:30:54,840 --> 00:30:58,160
Speaker 3: it's gonna be I mean, if this turns into a

702
00:30:58,320 --> 00:31:02,600
Speaker 3: Covington usman I fight for Tomorrow, there's a worse gut

703
00:31:02,600 --> 00:31:02,880
Speaker 3: to be.

704
00:31:02,840 --> 00:31:06,640
Speaker 4: Banging with than it was with Colby.

705
00:31:06,840 --> 00:31:07,280
Speaker 2: Wait what.

706
00:31:09,080 --> 00:31:09,520
Speaker 4: They if they?

707
00:31:09,600 --> 00:31:12,040
Speaker 3: Sorry, let me put it in layman's terms, Luke, if

708
00:31:12,080 --> 00:31:14,880
Speaker 3: this fight should turn into a punching match for five rounds,

709
00:31:15,480 --> 00:31:18,040
Speaker 3: unlike the Colby one in which Tomorrow handled him in

710
00:31:18,040 --> 00:31:20,760
Speaker 3: the punching department, I think Gilbert will beat his ass.

711
00:31:20,920 --> 00:31:22,120
Speaker 4: That's where I was going with that.

712
00:31:22,440 --> 00:31:23,840
Speaker 2: There was a part of it was one or two

713
00:31:23,880 --> 00:31:25,800
Speaker 2: words I couldn't quite hear because the volume of my

714
00:31:25,840 --> 00:31:28,160
Speaker 2: thing is low. And then I heard two dudes banging,

715
00:31:28,160 --> 00:31:31,400
Speaker 2: and I'm like, wait a second, where are we going?

716
00:31:31,760 --> 00:31:34,480
Speaker 4: Not really my style? Luke? Sorry, yeah, yeah.

717
00:31:35,160 --> 00:31:37,080
Speaker 2: Uh okay, So we'll see what happens with that. Again,

718
00:31:37,120 --> 00:31:39,960
Speaker 2: not confirmed by UFC, but something to pay attention to.

719
00:31:39,960 --> 00:31:41,880
Speaker 2: Topic number three. This one, to me is a little

720
00:31:41,920 --> 00:31:45,360
Speaker 2: bit more interesting, and I don't hate this BC. In fact,

721
00:31:45,400 --> 00:31:47,040
Speaker 2: I like it. In fact, I like it a lot.

722
00:31:47,480 --> 00:31:49,520
Speaker 2: I just wonder if there was another way to go,

723
00:31:49,800 --> 00:31:52,920
Speaker 2: but but maybe not. Okay, here's what it is in

724
00:31:52,960 --> 00:31:55,320
Speaker 2: the works for UFC two fifty eight. I don't have

725
00:31:55,360 --> 00:31:57,240
Speaker 2: the date in front of me, but in the works

726
00:31:57,240 --> 00:31:59,600
Speaker 2: for that is a rematch. Now, it's not a rematch

727
00:31:59,640 --> 00:32:02,560
Speaker 2: from one UFC fight to another. It's a rematch from

728
00:32:02,600 --> 00:32:05,000
Speaker 2: the regional scene to Now both guys are in the

729
00:32:05,080 --> 00:32:08,360
Speaker 2: UFC and let's see where they are now. Namely, Chris

730
00:32:08,400 --> 00:32:12,160
Speaker 2: Widman is rumored or at least reportedly going to be

731
00:32:12,200 --> 00:32:15,960
Speaker 2: fighting in a rematch Uriah Hall. Now, these two first

732
00:32:16,000 --> 00:32:19,800
Speaker 2: fought I think in September of twenty ten in Cage

733
00:32:19,800 --> 00:32:22,040
Speaker 2: Fury Fighting Championships. I don't know if there's any video

734
00:32:22,080 --> 00:32:23,720
Speaker 2: of it on fight Pass, but I know years ago

735
00:32:24,080 --> 00:32:27,240
Speaker 2: there was video of it on YouTube and it was

736
00:32:27,320 --> 00:32:30,440
Speaker 2: one sided. Man, it was not especially close Chris Widman.

737
00:32:30,760 --> 00:32:33,440
Speaker 2: That was when Chris Widman was like the guy coming

738
00:32:33,480 --> 00:32:35,320
Speaker 2: out of the regional scene and fair.

739
00:32:35,640 --> 00:32:37,880
Speaker 4: That was before Uriah was training with Jay Aaron.

740
00:32:38,040 --> 00:32:39,800
Speaker 2: So you got to what exactly that. I mean, I

741
00:32:39,840 --> 00:32:41,720
Speaker 2: think it was a Tiger Shulman guy at the time.

742
00:32:42,120 --> 00:32:43,800
Speaker 2: Oh you know what that was when he was training

743
00:32:43,800 --> 00:32:47,480
Speaker 2: with Jason, Yes, training with Jason meaning fucking him up

744
00:32:47,600 --> 00:32:50,080
Speaker 2: and throwing his dirty jock in his face and being like,

745
00:32:50,440 --> 00:32:51,480
Speaker 2: no escape, bitch.

746
00:32:53,760 --> 00:32:56,400
Speaker 4: Who do you think? Who do you think gave it

747
00:32:56,440 --> 00:32:56,840
Speaker 4: to Jay?

748
00:32:57,240 --> 00:32:57,560
Speaker 2: Better?

749
00:32:57,720 --> 00:33:01,640
Speaker 4: Old world style Uriah Hall or Johnson? Come on, you know.

750
00:33:02,560 --> 00:33:06,800
Speaker 2: Your Riyah probably took mercy on him. Yes, yes, all right,

751
00:33:07,680 --> 00:33:10,280
Speaker 2: I f your a and make you humble, camel cotch.

752
00:33:12,400 --> 00:33:13,840
Speaker 2: The only reason, by the way, the only reason I

753
00:33:13,880 --> 00:33:15,560
Speaker 2: know that is because my best friend in the world

754
00:33:15,600 --> 00:33:18,360
Speaker 2: is Persian. And uh he took me to a Persian

755
00:33:18,400 --> 00:33:21,320
Speaker 2: restaurant not too long ago, was before the pandemic. And

756
00:33:21,400 --> 00:33:23,240
Speaker 2: in the Persian restaurant, I swear to guy, they had

757
00:33:23,280 --> 00:33:25,560
Speaker 2: a picture of the Iron Sheet from like the seventies.

758
00:33:25,840 --> 00:33:29,000
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, and it was signed and he showed me

759
00:33:29,080 --> 00:33:31,000
Speaker 2: his whole Twitter account. It's it's pretty funny.

760
00:33:31,000 --> 00:33:33,440
Speaker 3: Have you ever seen, by the way, that that that

761
00:33:33,520 --> 00:33:35,240
Speaker 3: shtick that the Iron Cheek used to do in the

762
00:33:35,280 --> 00:33:37,920
Speaker 3: early eighties where you'd pick up those two Persian clubs

763
00:33:37,920 --> 00:33:40,760
Speaker 3: at each way, like a shipload each and spin them

764
00:33:40,800 --> 00:33:43,640
Speaker 3: separately with each hand as a weightlifting guy, Luke, I

765
00:33:43,640 --> 00:33:45,360
Speaker 3: got to bring this video into our show.

766
00:33:45,400 --> 00:33:46,760
Speaker 4: I think you would appreciate that a lot.

767
00:33:46,840 --> 00:33:48,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, bring that. I'd actually be curious to see that.

768
00:33:48,560 --> 00:33:50,560
Speaker 2: Bring that because he was he He was like a

769
00:33:50,640 --> 00:33:52,160
Speaker 2: legit athlete, as I understand it.

770
00:33:52,200 --> 00:33:54,280
Speaker 4: So, oh, he was an Olympic wrestler and he was

771
00:33:54,320 --> 00:33:56,840
Speaker 4: an Olympic assistant coach for the States.

772
00:33:57,240 --> 00:33:59,880
Speaker 2: You know, Oh was he? I didn't. Yeah, Well, after coaching,

773
00:34:00,000 --> 00:34:02,400
Speaker 2: I realize the Iranians and the Russians are maybe the

774
00:34:02,400 --> 00:34:04,320
Speaker 2: two best teams in the world. So you come out

775
00:34:04,320 --> 00:34:07,600
Speaker 2: of that place and you wrestle, you're gonna be pretty good, right, yeah,

776
00:34:07,920 --> 00:34:10,200
Speaker 2: all right, Well, getting back to this, Chris Wibman taking

777
00:34:10,239 --> 00:34:12,200
Speaker 2: on your Ryah Hall too. You in the works for

778
00:34:12,280 --> 00:34:15,040
Speaker 2: UFC two fifty eight BC. What do you make of

779
00:34:15,080 --> 00:34:17,960
Speaker 2: this pairing? Because I like it, But I was hoping

780
00:34:17,960 --> 00:34:21,480
Speaker 2: that they would make Anderson Silva versus Chris Widman three.

781
00:34:22,239 --> 00:34:25,000
Speaker 2: I guess they're not gonna do that because now Silva's

782
00:34:25,080 --> 00:34:27,879
Speaker 2: retired or whatever the hell is happening. Wideman did get

783
00:34:27,880 --> 00:34:31,920
Speaker 2: the win over Amari Auchmedov. Okay, do you like the matchup?

784
00:34:32,760 --> 00:34:34,040
Speaker 4: It's okay. Yeah, it's not bad.

785
00:34:34,080 --> 00:34:36,480
Speaker 3: I mean I like the element of we fought in

786
00:34:36,520 --> 00:34:39,040
Speaker 3: the past and the shadows in the carnival days, like

787
00:34:39,440 --> 00:34:41,960
Speaker 3: excuse me Liz Carmush and Valentino chef Chanko, but now

788
00:34:42,000 --> 00:34:44,120
Speaker 3: we're gonna do a rematch on the big leagues. The

789
00:34:44,160 --> 00:34:47,800
Speaker 3: only thing is, it's like, why not just make Widman

790
00:34:47,920 --> 00:34:50,000
Speaker 3: rock Hold. I mean, that's the damn fight. That's the

791
00:34:50,080 --> 00:34:53,760
Speaker 3: damn rematch to make to washy guys with big names,

792
00:34:53,800 --> 00:34:56,680
Speaker 3: just bang them against each other. Maybe there's belief that

793
00:34:56,760 --> 00:34:59,120
Speaker 3: because of the win over Rockmetoff, Widman's got a little

794
00:34:59,160 --> 00:35:01,040
Speaker 3: bit more in the tank right now, both guys are.

795
00:35:00,960 --> 00:35:03,279
Speaker 4: Coming off wins. I don't hate the matchup. I don't

796
00:35:03,320 --> 00:35:05,319
Speaker 4: hate it. I'm just a little afraid at this point

797
00:35:05,400 --> 00:35:08,680
Speaker 4: for Chris Widman against any elite striker. And there's certainly

798
00:35:08,719 --> 00:35:12,160
Speaker 4: still a big bang theory coming his way. And Uriah Hall,

799
00:35:12,520 --> 00:35:13,520
Speaker 4: whether he slowed down or not.

800
00:35:13,560 --> 00:35:17,280
Speaker 3: I mean, the guy can absolutely send you Luke to

801
00:35:17,280 --> 00:35:20,719
Speaker 3: to sort of the basement apartment below Haities, and I

802
00:35:20,719 --> 00:35:21,040
Speaker 3: hope that.

803
00:35:21,040 --> 00:35:21,880
Speaker 4: Doesn't happen to him here.

804
00:35:21,920 --> 00:35:24,799
Speaker 3: But it's an interesting style contrast, and it's also both

805
00:35:24,960 --> 00:35:27,200
Speaker 3: entering into hashtag old guy fights and Luke that's where

806
00:35:27,200 --> 00:35:29,360
Speaker 3: I get down, That's where I live, that's my domain.

807
00:35:29,440 --> 00:35:30,520
Speaker 4: So yeah, I don't hate this.

808
00:35:31,760 --> 00:35:34,000
Speaker 2: I think the loser might go there. I don't think

809
00:35:34,040 --> 00:35:37,240
Speaker 2: the winner does. In fact, I would say if Uriah

810
00:35:37,239 --> 00:35:41,040
Speaker 2: Hall wins, even though he's about thirty six years old, honestly,

811
00:35:41,080 --> 00:35:44,200
Speaker 2: he'd have beaten two names back to back in Silva

812
00:35:44,239 --> 00:35:47,320
Speaker 2: and Widman. I'm not saying that puts him title shot contention,

813
00:35:47,440 --> 00:35:49,120
Speaker 2: but it's definitely going to do something for his career

814
00:35:49,160 --> 00:35:52,040
Speaker 2: in a positive way. As far as the rankings are concerned,

815
00:35:52,080 --> 00:35:53,759
Speaker 2: I have to tell you I favor Oriah Hall this

816
00:35:53,840 --> 00:35:56,799
Speaker 2: time and again. I encourage everyone please go watch the

817
00:35:56,840 --> 00:36:00,279
Speaker 2: first one. Chris Wyman. He made it look effortless, was

818
00:36:00,320 --> 00:36:03,160
Speaker 2: not especially close that I don't know where that guy

819
00:36:03,239 --> 00:36:05,879
Speaker 2: exists anymore. Number one, number two. Even if you want

820
00:36:05,880 --> 00:36:07,840
Speaker 2: to say he could still get the wrestling done, the

821
00:36:07,880 --> 00:36:09,680
Speaker 2: fact that he couldn't put Away akamed up to me

822
00:36:09,760 --> 00:36:11,319
Speaker 2: was a bit of a bit of a warning sign.

823
00:36:11,360 --> 00:36:13,600
Speaker 2: Even though he did look you know, strong and physical

824
00:36:13,880 --> 00:36:15,799
Speaker 2: and you know still has a good top control, risk

825
00:36:15,920 --> 00:36:19,560
Speaker 2: rides the whole nine yards. But you alluded to something

826
00:36:19,560 --> 00:36:22,360
Speaker 2: which was the ability to take punishment. You know, Uriah

827
00:36:22,400 --> 00:36:23,960
Speaker 2: Hall still has to me a pretty good chin he

828
00:36:24,040 --> 00:36:26,080
Speaker 2: might need if he gets ground and pounded. I think

829
00:36:26,160 --> 00:36:28,799
Speaker 2: Chris Widman has been absolutely put through the ringer. I

830
00:36:28,800 --> 00:36:31,920
Speaker 2: mean he's still I think somebody you couldn't overlook. But

831
00:36:32,000 --> 00:36:34,680
Speaker 2: can I look at the camera and now and say

832
00:36:34,719 --> 00:36:36,719
Speaker 2: I think he can take as much punishment today as

833
00:36:36,719 --> 00:36:39,600
Speaker 2: he did when he fought Jesse bongfelt No, I don't

834
00:36:39,600 --> 00:36:40,880
Speaker 2: think I can say that. I don't think I'd be

835
00:36:40,920 --> 00:36:42,879
Speaker 2: lying through the audience if I said that. I don't

836
00:36:42,880 --> 00:36:45,440
Speaker 2: think it's particularly controversial either. So to me, it's like

837
00:36:45,840 --> 00:36:48,920
Speaker 2: man Yuriyah Hall the first time around, I don't think

838
00:36:48,960 --> 00:36:52,680
Speaker 2: had the wrestling pedigree or the overall MMA game to

839
00:36:52,760 --> 00:36:55,440
Speaker 2: deal with it. Ten was it eleven years later? Nearly

840
00:36:55,480 --> 00:36:58,560
Speaker 2: at this point, whenever they decided to make it. I

841
00:36:58,600 --> 00:37:01,160
Speaker 2: think his overall game has developed significantly. I think being

842
00:37:01,160 --> 00:37:04,520
Speaker 2: with Fortas MMA changes things, and his one shot ability

843
00:37:04,560 --> 00:37:07,839
Speaker 2: has not necessarily gone away, And that's something that is

844
00:37:08,000 --> 00:37:10,960
Speaker 2: just kryptonite at this point for Chris Wyman at this

845
00:37:11,000 --> 00:37:11,840
Speaker 2: stage in his career.

846
00:37:12,400 --> 00:37:14,560
Speaker 4: Do you think Chris Widman needs new coaching, a new

847
00:37:14,560 --> 00:37:17,200
Speaker 4: team just to get a new philosophy in there.

848
00:37:17,239 --> 00:37:18,840
Speaker 3: Like I like some of the changes he seemed to

849
00:37:18,880 --> 00:37:20,920
Speaker 3: be making the Acmetal Fight. It almost looked like he

850
00:37:21,040 --> 00:37:24,000
Speaker 3: was borrowing from brother in law wonder Boy Thompson in

851
00:37:24,080 --> 00:37:26,560
Speaker 3: terms of the movements and the look for kicks.

852
00:37:26,600 --> 00:37:30,640
Speaker 4: But do you think there's a change could bring back

853
00:37:30,680 --> 00:37:32,399
Speaker 4: a little bit more life in this manner? Is it?

854
00:37:33,000 --> 00:37:33,200
Speaker 2: You know?

855
00:37:34,280 --> 00:37:35,960
Speaker 4: Listen, it's the waves are rolling in.

856
00:37:36,040 --> 00:37:39,080
Speaker 2: You know, could you benefit by training with somebody else

857
00:37:39,120 --> 00:37:43,120
Speaker 2: who also had wisdom to impart? Sure? Would it meaningfully

858
00:37:43,200 --> 00:37:45,160
Speaker 2: change his career? I mean, these are the kinds of

859
00:37:45,200 --> 00:37:49,160
Speaker 2: conversations you have around somebody who's like Cody Garbrandt, where

860
00:37:49,160 --> 00:37:51,480
Speaker 2: he ran into those you know, multiple KOs in a row,

861
00:37:51,480 --> 00:37:53,439
Speaker 2: but who's still in his twenties. And you're like, okay, waits,

862
00:37:54,239 --> 00:37:56,120
Speaker 2: we can fix this. You were a champion. This is

863
00:37:56,160 --> 00:37:58,839
Speaker 2: a fixable thing. Or you know, if someone is still

864
00:37:58,880 --> 00:38:00,800
Speaker 2: at a stage in their career where they haven't ultimately

865
00:38:00,840 --> 00:38:04,000
Speaker 2: achieved their best and getting with the coach who understands

866
00:38:04,040 --> 00:38:06,920
Speaker 2: them could get them there. But Chris was already champion.

867
00:38:07,640 --> 00:38:09,959
Speaker 2: He's closer to forty than he is thirty at this point,

868
00:38:10,160 --> 00:38:12,760
Speaker 2: much closer in fact, and he's taken a ton of damage.

869
00:38:12,760 --> 00:38:14,239
Speaker 2: And this is something that doesn't get talked about with

870
00:38:14,320 --> 00:38:17,880
Speaker 2: Chris Widman nearly enough, which is whether it's his fault

871
00:38:18,200 --> 00:38:21,000
Speaker 2: or whether it's genetics or some combo of the two.

872
00:38:21,560 --> 00:38:24,640
Speaker 2: I don't know. But the dude has been injured a lot,

873
00:38:25,080 --> 00:38:28,600
Speaker 2: injured in fights, injured in training. He's missed a lot

874
00:38:28,640 --> 00:38:31,200
Speaker 2: of time. He's had a lot of camps that were

875
00:38:31,239 --> 00:38:34,920
Speaker 2: just disrupted by virtue of having you know, a foot injury,

876
00:38:34,920 --> 00:38:37,759
Speaker 2: a knee injury, a shoulder injury, a hand injury, all

877
00:38:37,800 --> 00:38:40,359
Speaker 2: different kinds of things. It's happened over and over and

878
00:38:40,400 --> 00:38:43,200
Speaker 2: over again. Dude, it adds up at some point. It

879
00:38:43,320 --> 00:38:46,320
Speaker 2: just really does. It's not necessarily fair, but it's a fact.

880
00:38:46,360 --> 00:38:48,839
Speaker 2: And so to me, it's like if you trained him

881
00:38:48,840 --> 00:38:51,000
Speaker 2: at you know, Hard Knocks three sixty five or Sanford

882
00:38:51,080 --> 00:38:53,760
Speaker 2: m May whatever it's called, or AKA and he somehow

883
00:38:53,800 --> 00:38:56,520
Speaker 2: put you know, buried the hatchet with Luke Rockhold or whatever.

884
00:38:56,760 --> 00:38:59,719
Speaker 2: Could he get beneficial training out of that? I'm sure

885
00:38:59,719 --> 00:39:02,799
Speaker 2: that he could. Would it really change his fortunes at

886
00:39:02,800 --> 00:39:05,319
Speaker 2: this point that seems like a reach for me.

887
00:39:06,040 --> 00:39:08,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, you just basically described him as the old guy

888
00:39:08,760 --> 00:39:11,839
Speaker 3: at the UH at the MMA class who shows up

889
00:39:11,880 --> 00:39:15,760
Speaker 3: with all of his limbs and bandages and embraces Luke.

890
00:39:15,920 --> 00:39:18,080
Speaker 2: No, he's not quite. No, that's a little fair. That's

891
00:39:18,080 --> 00:39:21,400
Speaker 2: a little unfair. He's not quite Kazushi Saka Rabba, who,

892
00:39:21,600 --> 00:39:25,000
Speaker 2: were it not for KT tape, I think would dissenter,

893
00:39:25,120 --> 00:39:30,160
Speaker 2: not disintegrate, but would collapse into a blob of a

894
00:39:30,200 --> 00:39:33,320
Speaker 2: ball of jello or something. I mean honestly that he

895
00:39:33,520 --> 00:39:34,240
Speaker 2: is held together.

896
00:39:34,680 --> 00:39:36,200
Speaker 4: He was the guy that fought in Espiedo a few

897
00:39:36,280 --> 00:39:37,320
Speaker 4: years back and got in trouble.

898
00:39:37,880 --> 00:39:42,160
Speaker 3: Dennis Hallman, He's Dennis Hallman is the is the tokyo

899
00:39:42,200 --> 00:39:46,440
Speaker 3: to to what's her name's New York In terms of opposite,

900
00:39:46,440 --> 00:39:49,279
Speaker 3: who wears more items of clothing and the in the

901
00:39:49,280 --> 00:39:50,800
Speaker 3: octagon than Roxy Madafari?

902
00:39:51,000 --> 00:39:51,440
Speaker 4: Nobody.

903
00:39:52,080 --> 00:39:54,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, she nearly has spats on because she has so

904
00:39:55,080 --> 00:39:57,160
Speaker 2: much going on with the rash Guard. I'm not a

905
00:39:57,160 --> 00:39:59,440
Speaker 2: fan of the rash Guard for the women. By the way, rash.

906
00:39:59,239 --> 00:40:01,759
Speaker 3: Guard she comes in with like sweatpants, a sweatshirt, Luke,

907
00:40:01,840 --> 00:40:03,160
Speaker 3: she's got a warm up coat over that.

908
00:40:03,239 --> 00:40:03,960
Speaker 4: I mean that's.

909
00:40:03,920 --> 00:40:05,879
Speaker 2: Like it's like Rockett, are you going are you going

910
00:40:05,880 --> 00:40:07,720
Speaker 2: to fight? Orre you're putting on a fire there. What's

911
00:40:07,800 --> 00:40:09,040
Speaker 2: up with all the clothing you got on?

912
00:40:09,400 --> 00:40:10,759
Speaker 4: Hey, it's legal, go for it.

913
00:40:11,560 --> 00:40:13,120
Speaker 2: No, I think if you're gonna let this is a

914
00:40:13,200 --> 00:40:14,600
Speaker 2: bit of a side note. I'm not a big fan

915
00:40:14,600 --> 00:40:16,440
Speaker 2: of the rash guard, but if you're gonna do the

916
00:40:16,520 --> 00:40:19,040
Speaker 2: rash guard, why can't it be v necked and sleeveless.

917
00:40:19,040 --> 00:40:21,160
Speaker 2: Why do you have to have sleeves that go around

918
00:40:21,160 --> 00:40:22,600
Speaker 2: the armpit? It's actually kind of important.

919
00:40:22,960 --> 00:40:25,800
Speaker 4: Looked like comal this America. Show me your curves, bitch.

920
00:40:28,040 --> 00:40:30,040
Speaker 2: You always have to be weird. It's just a thing

921
00:40:30,080 --> 00:40:32,760
Speaker 2: with you. I don't understand it, but it's a thing anyway.

922
00:40:33,560 --> 00:40:36,360
Speaker 2: Give me some odds. What are the odds for Wideman?

923
00:40:36,400 --> 00:40:38,400
Speaker 2: What are the odds for your Rya Hall? What do

924
00:40:38,440 --> 00:40:38,680
Speaker 2: you like?

925
00:40:39,600 --> 00:40:42,560
Speaker 3: If I was an odds maker, I would certainly like

926
00:40:42,640 --> 00:40:45,520
Speaker 3: the idea of Wideman winning a decision by out wrestling him,

927
00:40:45,520 --> 00:40:49,480
Speaker 3: But I would ultimately make Haul a minus two hundred

928
00:40:49,520 --> 00:40:51,480
Speaker 3: favorite and expect him to get a knockout.

929
00:40:51,520 --> 00:40:51,719
Speaker 4: Luke.

930
00:40:52,320 --> 00:40:56,960
Speaker 2: All right, real quickly. If Hall wins, is this the

931
00:40:57,000 --> 00:41:00,480
Speaker 2: best wind streak of his career? If Wideman wins, do

932
00:41:00,520 --> 00:41:02,320
Speaker 2: we have to talk about him as a legitimate contender?

933
00:41:02,880 --> 00:41:04,399
Speaker 4: I guess you got to talk about either one.

934
00:41:04,440 --> 00:41:07,279
Speaker 3: You're right as not a legitimate like jump to the

935
00:41:07,320 --> 00:41:09,880
Speaker 3: front of the line contender, but certainly Wideman has a

936
00:41:09,920 --> 00:41:12,680
Speaker 3: bigger star value, and I don't think it would I

937
00:41:12,680 --> 00:41:15,640
Speaker 3: don't think it would be against Stana White to take

938
00:41:15,680 --> 00:41:18,840
Speaker 3: Wideman like they did with Frankie Edgar against Holloway recently

939
00:41:18,880 --> 00:41:21,399
Speaker 3: and just go okay, dude, you're looking good, you beat

940
00:41:21,440 --> 00:41:23,279
Speaker 3: a couple of guys, Go ahead, get back out there

941
00:41:23,280 --> 00:41:24,080
Speaker 3: for one more title.

942
00:41:24,120 --> 00:41:27,560
Speaker 4: It'll sell better than whoever is the other big name

943
00:41:27,560 --> 00:41:28,360
Speaker 4: out there in the moment.

944
00:41:28,440 --> 00:41:31,000
Speaker 3: I mean, look, if Adostini's gonna stay at middleweight, you

945
00:41:31,000 --> 00:41:31,720
Speaker 3: gotta do Whittaker.

946
00:41:31,840 --> 00:41:32,680
Speaker 4: That's just what it is.

947
00:41:33,000 --> 00:41:36,440
Speaker 3: But yeah, I think more importantly for Wideman a victory here,

948
00:41:36,600 --> 00:41:39,440
Speaker 3: he's actually not that far out from getting one. I

949
00:41:39,480 --> 00:41:41,360
Speaker 3: don't think they go out of their way, but he

950
00:41:41,360 --> 00:41:43,279
Speaker 3: could slide in there easily if there was no one

951
00:41:43,280 --> 00:41:45,320
Speaker 3: else or there was a you know, an injury. He's

952
00:41:45,360 --> 00:41:48,400
Speaker 3: basically in Rich Franklin territory. Now, Luke, just stay healthy,

953
00:41:48,560 --> 00:41:51,200
Speaker 3: stay by the phone. You can fight the multiple weight classes,

954
00:41:51,239 --> 00:41:52,080
Speaker 3: whatever you gotta do.

955
00:41:53,200 --> 00:41:56,080
Speaker 2: And for folks who mean to know currently Hall and

956
00:41:56,160 --> 00:41:59,840
Speaker 2: Wideman respectively sit at nine and ten in the UFC

957
00:42:00,000 --> 00:42:02,000
Speaker 2: middleweight ranking, so part of the reason why they probably

958
00:42:02,080 --> 00:42:04,040
Speaker 2: paired them. They're right there next to each other. But

959
00:42:04,120 --> 00:42:06,359
Speaker 2: here's where I mean, if you win, okay, you win,

960
00:42:06,920 --> 00:42:10,840
Speaker 2: But here's six through eight. Six is Darren til Seven

961
00:42:10,920 --> 00:42:13,040
Speaker 2: is Derek Brunson, who all the credit in the world

962
00:42:13,120 --> 00:42:15,640
Speaker 2: looked amazing against Edmund Shabazian. You have to you have

963
00:42:15,680 --> 00:42:19,080
Speaker 2: to acknowledge it. And then eight is Kelvin Gastolum. Now

964
00:42:19,120 --> 00:42:22,360
Speaker 2: Widman if he wins, has the win over Gaslum already,

965
00:42:22,760 --> 00:42:26,080
Speaker 2: last question on this BC. If Widman beats Hall, whatever

966
00:42:26,120 --> 00:42:28,799
Speaker 2: that means in your mind, would you favor him to

967
00:42:28,840 --> 00:42:31,120
Speaker 2: beat Gasolum in the rematch if they made it.

968
00:42:32,560 --> 00:42:33,720
Speaker 4: No, I still don't.

969
00:42:33,920 --> 00:42:36,160
Speaker 3: I remember watching that fight and I still don't know

970
00:42:36,200 --> 00:42:38,800
Speaker 3: how Wideman was able to make it look that easy.

971
00:42:38,840 --> 00:42:41,320
Speaker 3: And I guess it plays two well. Place to A,

972
00:42:41,520 --> 00:42:43,239
Speaker 3: he's a really good wrestler and he leaned on his

973
00:42:43,280 --> 00:42:45,600
Speaker 3: strengths there. But it also place to the fact, Luke,

974
00:42:45,640 --> 00:42:48,920
Speaker 3: that Kelvin Gastolm will give you, you know, he'll give

975
00:42:48,920 --> 00:42:51,800
Speaker 3: you the full spectrum. He'll look like an absolute killer.

976
00:42:51,840 --> 00:42:55,200
Speaker 3: Title thread against ad Astania and then kind of look, Okay,

977
00:42:55,560 --> 00:42:57,960
Speaker 3: I think he struggles with inconsistency, and that was certainly

978
00:42:57,960 --> 00:43:00,480
Speaker 3: a night where he got handled that was surprising. I

979
00:43:00,480 --> 00:43:03,760
Speaker 3: would like Gaslam's chances in a rematch, but I always

980
00:43:03,880 --> 00:43:07,040
Speaker 3: overplay Gasolam because Luke I was there in Atlanta when

981
00:43:07,080 --> 00:43:11,000
Speaker 3: he came out in full on championship predator mode and

982
00:43:11,280 --> 00:43:12,120
Speaker 3: nearly did the deal.

983
00:43:12,160 --> 00:43:14,800
Speaker 2: Okay, It's funny, dude. You watch tape from that final

984
00:43:14,840 --> 00:43:16,680
Speaker 2: on Gasolam and I've certainly I've watched a fair bit

985
00:43:16,719 --> 00:43:19,040
Speaker 2: of it, and then you watch him in other fights

986
00:43:19,080 --> 00:43:21,320
Speaker 2: and it's like, how were you able to do things

987
00:43:21,320 --> 00:43:24,280
Speaker 2: in this contest, even if it was a losing affair. Ultimately,

988
00:43:24,800 --> 00:43:26,520
Speaker 2: how are you able to do that? And then you

989
00:43:26,560 --> 00:43:29,439
Speaker 2: can't do that against other guys who aren't nearly as

990
00:43:29,480 --> 00:43:32,279
Speaker 2: good or don't pose many of the same threats. It's

991
00:43:32,280 --> 00:43:35,840
Speaker 2: been very baffling. I don't quite understand it because you know, yeah,

992
00:43:35,880 --> 00:43:38,560
Speaker 2: he lost, Okay, we all know, but dude, there was

993
00:43:38,920 --> 00:43:43,600
Speaker 2: several rounds there where he looked great, like really good,

994
00:43:43,640 --> 00:43:46,160
Speaker 2: and then you think, okay, look really good against X

995
00:43:46,280 --> 00:43:48,600
Speaker 2: or why and the times he has a lot of

996
00:43:48,600 --> 00:43:50,120
Speaker 2: times he hasn't it's bizarre.

997
00:43:51,520 --> 00:43:54,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean there are guys like that, Luke, who

998
00:43:54,040 --> 00:43:56,200
Speaker 3: not only do they play to the level competition, but

999
00:43:56,280 --> 00:44:00,719
Speaker 3: they just can't summon that full elite effort every single time.

1000
00:44:00,800 --> 00:44:02,759
Speaker 3: And could it be a bad camp, could it be

1001
00:44:02,800 --> 00:44:04,560
Speaker 3: an injury, could it be a fight with a spouse.

1002
00:44:04,600 --> 00:44:06,279
Speaker 4: You never know, Luke, Okay, you never know.

1003
00:44:06,480 --> 00:44:08,319
Speaker 2: By the way, it looks like if Wideman wins, he'd

1004
00:44:08,360 --> 00:44:10,520
Speaker 2: fall out of the top ten. Now I don't know

1005
00:44:10,560 --> 00:44:12,320
Speaker 2: this to be sure. I know he's had a significant

1006
00:44:12,320 --> 00:44:15,080
Speaker 2: time off. When was the last time Chris Widman was

1007
00:44:15,120 --> 00:44:16,720
Speaker 2: outside of the top ten in middleweight?

1008
00:44:20,120 --> 00:44:25,880
Speaker 3: I would say after the three of five consecutive knockout losses, probably, Luke, Probably,

1009
00:44:26,400 --> 00:44:27,240
Speaker 3: I don't know, right.

1010
00:44:27,120 --> 00:44:30,960
Speaker 2: After Romeerica again you could say, hose, you could say

1011
00:44:31,280 --> 00:44:32,920
Speaker 2: like he may have deserved to be the top ten,

1012
00:44:32,960 --> 00:44:35,160
Speaker 2: But whether the way the rankings work, I would like

1013
00:44:35,200 --> 00:44:37,160
Speaker 2: to check that if one of our listeners knows. I mean,

1014
00:44:37,160 --> 00:44:38,920
Speaker 2: I'm not going to declare because I certainly do not know,

1015
00:44:39,360 --> 00:44:42,000
Speaker 2: but I wonder if this is the first time he's

1016
00:44:42,040 --> 00:44:43,680
Speaker 2: out of the top ten since entering it.

1017
00:44:44,200 --> 00:44:46,240
Speaker 4: Luke, what do you have less respect for in terms

1018
00:44:46,239 --> 00:44:49,759
Speaker 4: of integrity the UFC's ranking system, or they're cut off

1019
00:44:49,760 --> 00:44:51,040
Speaker 4: for Hall of Famers.

1020
00:44:54,680 --> 00:44:57,840
Speaker 2: The ranking system I mean, because here's the thing they're

1021
00:44:58,440 --> 00:45:03,080
Speaker 2: cut off for Hall of Famers is you know, it's

1022
00:45:03,160 --> 00:45:03,960
Speaker 2: not robust.

1023
00:45:04,080 --> 00:45:06,840
Speaker 3: I'll put I got an angry bone to pick, not angry,

1024
00:45:06,880 --> 00:45:08,799
Speaker 3: but people get mad when I say this. But look,

1025
00:45:08,840 --> 00:45:10,600
Speaker 3: you know how they put fights into the Hall of Fame,

1026
00:45:10,640 --> 00:45:14,480
Speaker 3: which I don't hate on. It's a fun idea, right, Yeah.

1027
00:45:14,520 --> 00:45:18,279
Speaker 3: The fighters that are involved in those fights sometimes end

1028
00:45:18,360 --> 00:45:22,239
Speaker 3: up referring to themselves now as Hall of famers and

1029
00:45:22,280 --> 00:45:26,799
Speaker 3: then get referred to I'll use as an example, what's

1030
00:45:26,840 --> 00:45:30,160
Speaker 3: his name, the Diego Sanchez. I've seen people say hall

1031
00:45:30,200 --> 00:45:33,600
Speaker 3: of Famer, Diego Sanchez. Look, the damn fights in the

1032
00:45:33,600 --> 00:45:35,680
Speaker 3: Hall of Fame. Sanchez ain't in there. I mean, he

1033
00:45:35,760 --> 00:45:38,600
Speaker 3: may end up getting in there from how UFC operates,

1034
00:45:38,600 --> 00:45:40,120
Speaker 3: and he's had a long and fun career.

1035
00:45:40,200 --> 00:45:41,960
Speaker 4: But I don't like.

1036
00:45:42,040 --> 00:45:45,439
Speaker 3: When when that when people get that sort of oh, well,

1037
00:45:45,640 --> 00:45:46,960
Speaker 3: the fights in the Hall of Fame, so he's a

1038
00:45:47,000 --> 00:45:47,480
Speaker 3: Hall of Famer.

1039
00:45:47,480 --> 00:45:49,799
Speaker 4: Now, can we have some kind of like Mendoza line.

1040
00:45:49,840 --> 00:45:52,800
Speaker 2: Here, By the way, here are players that played in

1041
00:45:52,840 --> 00:45:54,840
Speaker 2: the NFL who are not in the NFL Hall or

1042
00:45:54,880 --> 00:45:55,680
Speaker 2: the Football Hall of Fame.

1043
00:45:56,000 --> 00:45:57,400
Speaker 4: I don't know. Look, I just was I must have

1044
00:45:57,440 --> 00:45:59,200
Speaker 4: been talking to this bag of eggs hair. I was

1045
00:45:59,200 --> 00:46:00,719
Speaker 4: looking for you to you know, I don't know.

1046
00:46:01,480 --> 00:46:02,920
Speaker 2: I just want to I know, but I want to

1047
00:46:02,920 --> 00:46:04,640
Speaker 2: finish this point if I can, because I think you'd

1048
00:46:04,640 --> 00:46:07,000
Speaker 2: actually be able to add to this. Here's who's not

1049
00:46:07,640 --> 00:46:11,840
Speaker 2: in the Hall of Fame for the NFL football Brett Farv,

1050
00:46:12,360 --> 00:46:15,600
Speaker 2: Kurt Warner, Chris Carter, by the way, Chris Carter sixteen seasons,

1051
00:46:15,600 --> 00:46:19,200
Speaker 2: caught eleven hundred passes for fourteen thousand yards and one

1052
00:46:19,239 --> 00:46:21,279
Speaker 2: hundred and thirty touchdowns. Not in the Hall of Fame,

1053
00:46:21,680 --> 00:46:25,720
Speaker 2: Tim Brown, Marvin Harrison, Terrell Owens, Ricky Waters, Jason Taylor,

1054
00:46:25,840 --> 00:46:29,440
Speaker 2: Kevin Green, Ken Riley, Isaac Bruce, Jerome bettis not in

1055
00:46:29,440 --> 00:46:31,719
Speaker 2: the Hall of Fame. Michael Strahan not in the Hall

1056
00:46:31,760 --> 00:46:33,960
Speaker 2: of Fame, Terrell Davis not in the Hall of Fame,

1057
00:46:33,960 --> 00:46:37,880
Speaker 2: Priest Holmes, Drew Bledsoe, Phil Simms, Rich Cannon, Boomer Asiasin

1058
00:46:38,040 --> 00:46:40,239
Speaker 2: not in the Hall of Fame. Randall Cunningham not in

1059
00:46:40,239 --> 00:46:41,799
Speaker 2: the Hall of Fame. Like when you look at what

1060
00:46:41,840 --> 00:46:45,480
Speaker 2: other sports actually do you know to maintain some integrity

1061
00:46:45,480 --> 00:46:49,640
Speaker 2: about their Hall of Fame. It's like the UFC's version

1062
00:46:49,680 --> 00:46:52,520
Speaker 2: of it. It's I'm not as angry about it because

1063
00:46:53,080 --> 00:46:55,400
Speaker 2: they're celebrating fighters who mean a lot to them, and

1064
00:46:55,440 --> 00:46:59,960
Speaker 2: so in that sense, you can't be too angry about it.

1065
00:47:00,000 --> 00:47:01,680
Speaker 4: If you're in for a fight, you're not a Hall

1066
00:47:01,719 --> 00:47:03,879
Speaker 4: of Famer. Tell me the truth. Look, if you're in

1067
00:47:03,960 --> 00:47:06,120
Speaker 4: for a fight, you're not a Hall of Famer.

1068
00:47:07,160 --> 00:47:09,680
Speaker 2: If you're what's.

1069
00:47:08,600 --> 00:47:11,480
Speaker 3: Diego Sanchez right now a UFC Hall of Famer. No,

1070
00:47:11,640 --> 00:47:14,319
Speaker 3: the fight was a Hall of Fame fight, right, that's

1071
00:47:14,320 --> 00:47:15,200
Speaker 3: what they're saying.

1072
00:47:15,400 --> 00:47:18,239
Speaker 2: Right, right, yeah, right, even that I wouldn't necessarily call

1073
00:47:18,239 --> 00:47:20,520
Speaker 2: a Hall of Fame fight. But yes, no, I think

1074
00:47:20,600 --> 00:47:21,080
Speaker 2: I think.

1075
00:47:20,880 --> 00:47:22,799
Speaker 4: Pro Football's Hall of Fame is not that bad.

1076
00:47:23,080 --> 00:47:25,600
Speaker 3: Baseball has always been like the one that will actually

1077
00:47:25,680 --> 00:47:27,719
Speaker 3: leave you out right, like the Don Madden Lee thing,

1078
00:47:27,719 --> 00:47:30,000
Speaker 3: where it's like a guy was great for a short period,

1079
00:47:30,080 --> 00:47:31,920
Speaker 3: but we're not going to reward that he couldn't do

1080
00:47:31,920 --> 00:47:32,680
Speaker 3: it over the long haul.

1081
00:47:32,840 --> 00:47:35,200
Speaker 4: I have much more issues with the Pro Basketball.

1082
00:47:34,800 --> 00:47:36,960
Speaker 3: Hall of Fame, which we'll get in guys on the

1083
00:47:36,960 --> 00:47:38,400
Speaker 3: first year that it were like, you know, like a

1084
00:47:38,440 --> 00:47:40,760
Speaker 3: Mitch Richmond gets in on the first year. You're like, okay,

1085
00:47:40,960 --> 00:47:43,759
Speaker 3: and Gino Arima's going in every year, but like there's

1086
00:47:43,760 --> 00:47:46,200
Speaker 3: no Seamore, there's no like the NBA needs their their

1087
00:47:46,239 --> 00:47:47,880
Speaker 3: own damn Hall of Fame is where I'm going with that?

1088
00:47:47,920 --> 00:47:50,719
Speaker 2: Whatever, who is who is the best player? Not in

1089
00:47:50,800 --> 00:47:52,280
Speaker 2: the basketball Hall of Fame.

1090
00:47:53,920 --> 00:47:54,759
Speaker 4: They all get in.

1091
00:47:55,000 --> 00:47:57,120
Speaker 3: But there's my point is there's no real cutoff line,

1092
00:47:57,160 --> 00:47:59,960
Speaker 3: and you get in for your your high school, intern

1093
00:48:00,160 --> 00:48:03,560
Speaker 3: national and college achievements just as much as your.

1094
00:48:03,400 --> 00:48:05,759
Speaker 2: Pro you know what I mean, got it? Okay, fair enough,

1095
00:48:05,760 --> 00:48:08,960
Speaker 2: that's a conversation I have. But in American football they

1096
00:48:09,000 --> 00:48:13,120
Speaker 2: got damn good players who are not even close. All right,

1097
00:48:13,640 --> 00:48:16,480
Speaker 2: speaking of things that are close, PC tomorrow Belatoor two

1098
00:48:16,560 --> 00:48:19,200
Speaker 2: fifty three. They had a great card last week. They

1099
00:48:19,200 --> 00:48:21,040
Speaker 2: had a bunch of duds, but they had a great

1100
00:48:21,040 --> 00:48:24,160
Speaker 2: card last week. I think they're building on some momentum

1101
00:48:24,160 --> 00:48:26,920
Speaker 2: here because this card, you know, it's not big. It's

1102
00:48:26,920 --> 00:48:29,200
Speaker 2: only three fights starting at seven pm in the East

1103
00:48:29,239 --> 00:48:32,040
Speaker 2: on CBS Sports Network. It's only three fights on the

1104
00:48:32,040 --> 00:48:33,560
Speaker 2: main card, So just to be clear, it's not a

1105
00:48:33,600 --> 00:48:36,600
Speaker 2: long night, all right, but it's a good night in

1106
00:48:36,640 --> 00:48:39,360
Speaker 2: your main event. Darien Caldwell is taken on aj McKee.

1107
00:48:39,440 --> 00:48:41,800
Speaker 2: This is the other side of the bracket for the

1108
00:48:41,800 --> 00:48:45,200
Speaker 2: one hundred and forty five pound World Grand Prix Tournament

1109
00:48:45,280 --> 00:48:48,799
Speaker 2: comin event, Benson Henderson taking on Jason Jackson, by the way,

1110
00:48:48,880 --> 00:48:52,560
Speaker 2: at welterweight. At the face offs, I was like, God damn,

1111
00:48:52,600 --> 00:48:55,759
Speaker 2: Benson Henderson is going up against a goliath on the

1112
00:48:55,800 --> 00:48:57,400
Speaker 2: other side, So good luck to him. And then the

1113
00:48:57,440 --> 00:48:58,840
Speaker 2: guy I've got my eye on, we'll talk about a

1114
00:48:58,880 --> 00:49:02,200
Speaker 2: little bit later, Davis black Ice ticking on Bobby Lee.

1115
00:49:02,280 --> 00:49:04,239
Speaker 2: Let's start at the top there. BC. First of all,

1116
00:49:04,239 --> 00:49:05,879
Speaker 2: a decent card by belt or good card. It could

1117
00:49:05,920 --> 00:49:07,600
Speaker 2: end up being. We'll see how the main event looks.

1118
00:49:08,160 --> 00:49:12,880
Speaker 2: Caldwell versus McKee. Size him up for me, and do

1119
00:49:12,920 --> 00:49:15,680
Speaker 2: you really see a fighter in either case? Who if

1120
00:49:15,719 --> 00:49:19,120
Speaker 2: it's Pitbull or Sanchez, Like, do you favor this side

1121
00:49:19,120 --> 00:49:21,560
Speaker 2: of the bracket over the other side of the bracket?

1122
00:49:21,880 --> 00:49:23,280
Speaker 4: Well, this side of the bracket's tougher.

1123
00:49:23,320 --> 00:49:26,000
Speaker 3: I mean AJ mcke's been saying that all all tournament,

1124
00:49:26,040 --> 00:49:28,160
Speaker 3: because you know, the top seats had their pick at

1125
00:49:28,200 --> 00:49:30,400
Speaker 3: the beginning, and he felt who you could you know,

1126
00:49:30,440 --> 00:49:32,200
Speaker 3: you had your pick of where either on the bracket

1127
00:49:32,239 --> 00:49:34,040
Speaker 3: you'd be or who you would fight, and he thought

1128
00:49:34,040 --> 00:49:36,560
Speaker 3: Pitbull set himself up for an easier side. Look, I

1129
00:49:36,560 --> 00:49:38,520
Speaker 3: think how this breaks down is not only do I

1130
00:49:38,560 --> 00:49:41,040
Speaker 3: look at this as literally a flip pick them fight

1131
00:49:41,200 --> 00:49:43,880
Speaker 3: between Caldwell and McKee, even though mcke's a three to

1132
00:49:43,920 --> 00:49:47,279
Speaker 3: one favorite, and look, he's spent so spectacular lately, he's

1133
00:49:47,320 --> 00:49:50,360
Speaker 3: more well rounded, it seems in Caldwell he's the bigger fighter.

1134
00:49:50,440 --> 00:49:51,440
Speaker 4: Naturally he's younger.

1135
00:49:51,480 --> 00:49:53,960
Speaker 3: I get why he's the favorite, but I really think

1136
00:49:54,040 --> 00:49:55,960
Speaker 3: Darien Colebell's got a great chance in this one, and

1137
00:49:56,040 --> 00:49:58,040
Speaker 3: Luke and I think the winner of this has a

1138
00:49:58,320 --> 00:50:01,160
Speaker 3: very good chance of competing had to head with Piple.

1139
00:50:01,200 --> 00:50:03,239
Speaker 3: I know Piple's got to get through Emmanuel Sanchez first

1140
00:50:03,239 --> 00:50:05,640
Speaker 3: in the rematch, but this just speaks to the strength

1141
00:50:05,680 --> 00:50:06,360
Speaker 3: of this tournament.

1142
00:50:06,520 --> 00:50:08,960
Speaker 4: They doubled the Grand Prix this time to sixteen fighters.

1143
00:50:09,120 --> 00:50:09,959
Speaker 4: We talked at how.

1144
00:50:09,840 --> 00:50:12,560
Speaker 3: It didn't really have this sex factor at first, as

1145
00:50:12,640 --> 00:50:16,120
Speaker 3: much name value as the welterweight or heavyweight tournaments before it,

1146
00:50:16,160 --> 00:50:18,399
Speaker 3: But these are the right four you want in here,

1147
00:50:18,400 --> 00:50:22,480
Speaker 3: and this is a damn great matchup Thursday night. Luke

1148
00:50:22,600 --> 00:50:27,000
Speaker 3: McKee's got sixteen consecutive wins, all sixteen of coming the

1149
00:50:27,000 --> 00:50:29,720
Speaker 3: Bellator cage, all in the last five years.

1150
00:50:29,960 --> 00:50:32,160
Speaker 4: He's only twenty five and he's.

1151
00:50:32,000 --> 00:50:35,400
Speaker 3: Three wins away from Tyme Pipple for most in Bellatore history.

1152
00:50:35,400 --> 00:50:38,920
Speaker 3: This is as perfect a job of taking a homegrown

1153
00:50:39,000 --> 00:50:41,920
Speaker 3: talent and obviously one through his father Antonio, who's got

1154
00:50:41,920 --> 00:50:44,399
Speaker 3: a pedigree in this, and building him up to this

1155
00:50:44,520 --> 00:50:47,719
Speaker 3: moment where if he beats Terian Caldwell, I mean he's

1156
00:50:47,719 --> 00:50:50,319
Speaker 3: gonna go into that fight for the championship in the

1157
00:50:50,360 --> 00:50:53,520
Speaker 3: final as a very live dog, if not a favorite

1158
00:50:53,560 --> 00:50:54,600
Speaker 3: depending on who he fights.

1159
00:50:54,880 --> 00:50:57,240
Speaker 4: He is the real deal. He's spectacular.

1160
00:50:57,480 --> 00:50:59,759
Speaker 3: That eight second knockout of Georgia Krkanyan in the first

1161
00:50:59,840 --> 00:51:02,000
Speaker 3: run of this tournament was a bell to Or record

1162
00:51:02,000 --> 00:51:03,120
Speaker 3: and really showed you what.

1163
00:51:03,040 --> 00:51:04,960
Speaker 4: He's made of. There's the footage of it right there.

1164
00:51:05,600 --> 00:51:07,800
Speaker 4: But I'm just not ready to see.

1165
00:51:08,560 --> 00:51:10,280
Speaker 2: What'd you say, good timing?

1166
00:51:10,640 --> 00:51:13,319
Speaker 3: Yeah, damn Ray, I love our team here. I'm not

1167
00:51:13,400 --> 00:51:16,200
Speaker 3: ready to count out Caldwell's chances. Luke Caldwell's gonna have

1168
00:51:16,200 --> 00:51:20,160
Speaker 3: the experience factor. He's gone five plenty of times. He's

1169
00:51:20,200 --> 00:51:22,680
Speaker 3: gonna have a lot of things in his favor now. Granted, though,

1170
00:51:22,960 --> 00:51:25,400
Speaker 3: I think Caldwell's fight has to go his way to

1171
00:51:25,440 --> 00:51:27,160
Speaker 3: win it. He's got to be able to set the

1172
00:51:27,239 --> 00:51:30,359
Speaker 3: terms of this and control on the ground if there's

1173
00:51:30,360 --> 00:51:32,200
Speaker 3: a need for plans BC and D.

1174
00:51:32,800 --> 00:51:33,720
Speaker 4: I think that's where.

1175
00:51:33,640 --> 00:51:36,319
Speaker 3: McKee comes in and could take over the top, and

1176
00:51:36,360 --> 00:51:37,600
Speaker 3: that's why he's the favorite.

1177
00:51:37,960 --> 00:51:40,000
Speaker 4: But I'm not convinced that Caldwell is not going to

1178
00:51:40,120 --> 00:51:40,719
Speaker 4: just be able to.

1179
00:51:40,680 --> 00:51:42,359
Speaker 3: Do to him what he did to the first two

1180
00:51:42,360 --> 00:51:45,400
Speaker 3: guys he faced in this tournament, including you know, boldly

1181
00:51:45,480 --> 00:51:48,320
Speaker 3: disarming Adam Borich when he came in as this unbeaten

1182
00:51:48,360 --> 00:51:51,759
Speaker 3: stud and just dominating him. I kind of like the

1183
00:51:51,840 --> 00:51:54,279
Speaker 3: underdog Caldwell here, and at the very least, I think

1184
00:51:54,280 --> 00:51:56,680
Speaker 3: it's speaking to the fact that this is as good

1185
00:51:56,680 --> 00:51:58,520
Speaker 3: of a fight as the tournament could produce, and it's

1186
00:51:58,560 --> 00:52:00,800
Speaker 3: a pick them look this fight. It kind of reminds

1187
00:52:00,840 --> 00:52:04,479
Speaker 3: me of when Douglimafa MVP in their Grand Prix side

1188
00:52:04,480 --> 00:52:06,520
Speaker 3: of the bracket and the welterweight one, where.

1189
00:52:06,280 --> 00:52:08,799
Speaker 4: It's like one guy's got to prove himself, one guy's

1190
00:52:08,840 --> 00:52:11,080
Speaker 4: been pretty much proven. Let's see what we do here.

1191
00:52:11,120 --> 00:52:13,160
Speaker 2: I mean, I love this fight, Yeah, I mean, to me,

1192
00:52:13,200 --> 00:52:15,879
Speaker 2: it's kind of interesting, right. It's like, do I think

1193
00:52:15,960 --> 00:52:19,560
Speaker 2: Darien Caldwell is by far the best wrestler that aj

1194
00:52:19,680 --> 00:52:22,480
Speaker 2: McKee has faced, not even close, I mean absolutely. The

1195
00:52:22,560 --> 00:52:24,560
Speaker 2: answer to that is yes. And do I think that

1196
00:52:24,640 --> 00:52:27,120
Speaker 2: Caldwell will take him down? I do? Do I think, say,

1197
00:52:27,160 --> 00:52:29,239
Speaker 2: if the fight goes let's say, multiple rounds, he will

1198
00:52:29,239 --> 00:52:31,960
Speaker 2: take him down multiple times. I do hold him down

1199
00:52:32,120 --> 00:52:34,359
Speaker 2: and ground and pound. I suspect all of that will

1200
00:52:34,360 --> 00:52:37,480
Speaker 2: be in play. But if you asked me, can he

1201
00:52:37,600 --> 00:52:41,840
Speaker 2: beat aj McKee with the same game plan over the

1202
00:52:41,880 --> 00:52:44,000
Speaker 2: course of five rounds, assuming that it goes that long

1203
00:52:44,040 --> 00:52:46,479
Speaker 2: and maybe it doesn't, but the one he used against

1204
00:52:46,600 --> 00:52:49,239
Speaker 2: Kyoji Horrigucci in the rematch? Do I think he can

1205
00:52:49,280 --> 00:52:52,279
Speaker 2: beat aj McKee that way? I'm not so sure. I'm

1206
00:52:52,280 --> 00:52:54,560
Speaker 2: not so sure. I mean, listen, part of what Caldwell

1207
00:52:54,640 --> 00:52:57,359
Speaker 2: does that nobody else can do is you talk about

1208
00:52:57,400 --> 00:52:59,759
Speaker 2: other people who watched wrestling at the time that he did.

1209
00:53:00,000 --> 00:53:02,359
Speaker 2: They talk about his famous win over Brent Metcalf and

1210
00:53:02,400 --> 00:53:04,480
Speaker 2: how athletic he was and blah blah blah, like this

1211
00:53:04,560 --> 00:53:08,680
Speaker 2: dude was a marvel in college right, national champion the

1212
00:53:08,680 --> 00:53:12,240
Speaker 2: whole nine yards and in MMA he just is still

1213
00:53:12,400 --> 00:53:14,960
Speaker 2: kind of a wrestler, and you would think after a

1214
00:53:15,000 --> 00:53:17,719
Speaker 2: couple of setbacks that he had against Hora Gucci, but

1215
00:53:17,840 --> 00:53:19,759
Speaker 2: you know, against Time and Glow as well, where you

1216
00:53:19,760 --> 00:53:22,640
Speaker 2: had this sort of singular approach to the game. It

1217
00:53:22,719 --> 00:53:25,000
Speaker 2: takes you pretty far, but it limits you at the

1218
00:53:25,080 --> 00:53:28,080
Speaker 2: very very end a little bit. So if he can

1219
00:53:28,160 --> 00:53:30,720
Speaker 2: vary it up, really go to the ground and pound,

1220
00:53:30,800 --> 00:53:34,360
Speaker 2: take his time with it, soften guys up, advance position,

1221
00:53:34,680 --> 00:53:36,160
Speaker 2: threaten from the back, which by the way, is pretty

1222
00:53:36,160 --> 00:53:38,320
Speaker 2: good from the back too. You know, go after chokes,

1223
00:53:38,400 --> 00:53:41,480
Speaker 2: make this guy nervous about even putting a hand on

1224
00:53:41,520 --> 00:53:45,640
Speaker 2: the mat anything, because you're gonna absolutely contort him like

1225
00:53:45,680 --> 00:53:48,400
Speaker 2: a pretzel and then pound him out in between. I

1226
00:53:48,440 --> 00:53:50,440
Speaker 2: think he can win that way. But if it's this,

1227
00:53:50,560 --> 00:53:52,719
Speaker 2: I'm gonna be the better wrestler and hold you. In

1228
00:53:52,760 --> 00:53:56,200
Speaker 2: an era at MMABC where judges are more than ever

1229
00:53:56,400 --> 00:53:59,880
Speaker 2: not as inclined to give the top control fighter the round,

1230
00:54:00,080 --> 00:54:02,760
Speaker 2: even if there's multiple minutes where you have top control,

1231
00:54:02,920 --> 00:54:05,080
Speaker 2: if the guy underneath has an active guard, or you

1232
00:54:05,160 --> 00:54:07,319
Speaker 2: just didn't do a whole lot and that has He's

1233
00:54:07,400 --> 00:54:11,120
Speaker 2: that has been Darien Caldwell at times, and so to me,

1234
00:54:11,200 --> 00:54:14,600
Speaker 2: It's like AJ McKee has all the tools to beat

1235
00:54:14,640 --> 00:54:18,600
Speaker 2: Caldwell provided that Caldwell is the same guy we've seen.

1236
00:54:19,120 --> 00:54:22,399
Speaker 2: But if he can show a new wrinkle, I think

1237
00:54:22,480 --> 00:54:24,800
Speaker 2: Caldwell can advance to the finals. I just don't know

1238
00:54:24,840 --> 00:54:26,080
Speaker 2: if that's even possible.

1239
00:54:25,760 --> 00:54:27,759
Speaker 4: At this Yeah, I think you nailed it. I think

1240
00:54:27,760 --> 00:54:28,440
Speaker 4: you nailed it right there.

1241
00:54:28,480 --> 00:54:30,279
Speaker 3: If you can control the terms himself, he's gonna have

1242
00:54:30,320 --> 00:54:32,799
Speaker 3: a great chance if this goes later. He has better

1243
00:54:32,840 --> 00:54:35,600
Speaker 3: experience in that regard, but McKee is the more dynamic one.

1244
00:54:35,640 --> 00:54:37,759
Speaker 3: We both We interview both of these guys briefly on

1245
00:54:37,840 --> 00:54:40,160
Speaker 3: CBS Sports HQ during the Way and Show today, and

1246
00:54:40,160 --> 00:54:41,920
Speaker 3: I've been checking out their other interviews this week, and

1247
00:54:42,000 --> 00:54:44,359
Speaker 3: you know, mcke's a talker, but he really looks at

1248
00:54:44,360 --> 00:54:47,000
Speaker 3: Caldwell as just one dimensional, a guy who's not a

1249
00:54:47,160 --> 00:54:50,560
Speaker 3: mixed martial artist, just has one speed, holds you down,

1250
00:54:50,600 --> 00:54:52,920
Speaker 3: tries to run away from contact. He thinks if he

1251
00:54:52,920 --> 00:54:55,200
Speaker 3: can get him into a striking battle, it's on and

1252
00:54:55,239 --> 00:54:58,640
Speaker 3: it's gonna be over. And Luke, I've loved everything McKee

1253
00:54:58,680 --> 00:55:01,600
Speaker 3: has said about his future that you know he wants

1254
00:55:01,680 --> 00:55:02,040
Speaker 3: this one.

1255
00:55:02,239 --> 00:55:05,160
Speaker 4: He wants pipple. He thinks he's a live one against Pipple.

1256
00:55:05,520 --> 00:55:07,520
Speaker 3: He wants to not only take Pipple's featherweight title, he

1257
00:55:07,520 --> 00:55:09,040
Speaker 3: wants to move up right after and go up to

1258
00:55:09,120 --> 00:55:11,440
Speaker 3: lightweight and take that belt as well. And for all

1259
00:55:11,480 --> 00:55:14,560
Speaker 3: the talk that Aaron Pico was this, you know, potential

1260
00:55:14,800 --> 00:55:18,600
Speaker 3: building block for belt or the most prized high prospect

1261
00:55:18,600 --> 00:55:20,960
Speaker 3: of all time. And again, Pico's still young, he may

1262
00:55:21,000 --> 00:55:23,759
Speaker 3: figure it out. Uh aj McKee is actually living this

1263
00:55:23,880 --> 00:55:26,320
Speaker 3: out for them. I mean I was, I was really surprised.

1264
00:55:26,360 --> 00:55:28,399
Speaker 3: I didn't realize he's never fought anywhere else.

1265
00:55:28,440 --> 00:55:31,560
Speaker 4: This is homegrown day one, and this tournament is going

1266
00:55:31,640 --> 00:55:33,480
Speaker 4: to give him his chance to make good on all

1267
00:55:33,520 --> 00:55:33,759
Speaker 4: of it.

1268
00:55:34,200 --> 00:55:36,480
Speaker 3: Uh that's why he's your betting favorite. But again, very

1269
00:55:36,719 --> 00:55:39,640
Speaker 3: just good match making Beltore. They'll they'll give you the shits.

1270
00:55:39,920 --> 00:55:42,319
Speaker 3: We cover the shits. This ain't the shits, Luke.

1271
00:55:42,680 --> 00:55:44,000
Speaker 4: This is good. It's good stuff.

1272
00:55:45,440 --> 00:55:46,800
Speaker 2: This is not what I had at four in the

1273
00:55:46,880 --> 00:55:51,759
Speaker 2: morning today. Uh yeah, I'll say this. We should absolutely

1274
00:55:52,200 --> 00:55:55,920
Speaker 2: you know, bludgeon promoters verbally when they fuck up the

1275
00:55:55,960 --> 00:55:58,920
Speaker 2: development of a product or a prospect, right when they

1276
00:55:58,960 --> 00:56:02,120
Speaker 2: get it wrong by going too slow or going too fast.

1277
00:56:02,280 --> 00:56:05,360
Speaker 2: And that happens pretty frequently, both the UFC and Bellator

1278
00:56:05,440 --> 00:56:07,560
Speaker 2: and one. I mean they like when One matched up,

1279
00:56:07,840 --> 00:56:11,480
Speaker 2: you know, stage north Cut with Cosmo ale Chandre, You're like, ooh,

1280
00:56:11,680 --> 00:56:13,560
Speaker 2: don't know if that's the best idea, And of course

1281
00:56:13,560 --> 00:56:16,360
Speaker 2: he paid for it, and one deserved to be criticized

1282
00:56:16,400 --> 00:56:19,520
Speaker 2: for it. But for them, for Bellatore to get sixteen

1283
00:56:19,560 --> 00:56:22,080
Speaker 2: fights out of this guy, but start him young and

1284
00:56:22,120 --> 00:56:23,879
Speaker 2: you know, walk him through the pre limbs and then

1285
00:56:23,960 --> 00:56:27,120
Speaker 2: slowly incrementally give him the kind of challenges that he

1286
00:56:27,160 --> 00:56:29,040
Speaker 2: needed to rise to the occasion and prove that he

1287
00:56:29,120 --> 00:56:31,720
Speaker 2: was the real deal. And now at twenty five, filled

1288
00:56:31,719 --> 00:56:35,240
Speaker 2: out into man's strength, you know, really matured his skill set.

1289
00:56:35,520 --> 00:56:37,640
Speaker 2: You're beginning to see like this is now the time

1290
00:56:37,680 --> 00:56:40,440
Speaker 2: to step up in competition. And I think I forget

1291
00:56:40,440 --> 00:56:44,000
Speaker 2: who he faced in the opening, Derek compos and he

1292
00:56:44,080 --> 00:56:47,280
Speaker 2: got the win there. Now against Caldwell, you beat Caldwell's

1293
00:56:47,320 --> 00:56:49,400
Speaker 2: not only your best win, but to me, it's the

1294
00:56:49,480 --> 00:56:53,759
Speaker 2: right kind of incremental approach that he has already been

1295
00:56:53,800 --> 00:56:56,440
Speaker 2: on all this time, and it could lead to Emmanuel

1296
00:56:56,480 --> 00:56:58,960
Speaker 2: Sanchez or Pitbull, which is of course, you know, an

1297
00:56:59,000 --> 00:57:02,040
Speaker 2: outrageously difficult test. But at that point you'd have earned it,

1298
00:57:02,080 --> 00:57:03,320
Speaker 2: so you can't even complain anymore.

1299
00:57:03,400 --> 00:57:06,880
Speaker 3: Luke, what as the fan in you? What's your hope

1300
00:57:06,920 --> 00:57:08,680
Speaker 3: for the final? What's the best matchup that can be

1301
00:57:08,760 --> 00:57:09,520
Speaker 3: made from these four?

1302
00:57:11,840 --> 00:57:16,840
Speaker 2: Hmm, I'm gonna just speak from my personal bias. It's

1303
00:57:16,880 --> 00:57:19,800
Speaker 2: not anything personal in terms of the guys. Just you know,

1304
00:57:19,880 --> 00:57:22,200
Speaker 2: I have a soft spot for Darien Caldwell. I have

1305
00:57:22,280 --> 00:57:25,640
Speaker 2: been burned by him, you know, sort of hoping he

1306
00:57:25,680 --> 00:57:28,600
Speaker 2: would turn the corner. I don't know if that's still possible,

1307
00:57:28,600 --> 00:57:31,240
Speaker 2: but let's say he gets to the finals, and then,

1308
00:57:31,560 --> 00:57:34,640
Speaker 2: really what you're up against is two things. If Emmanuel

1309
00:57:34,720 --> 00:57:38,040
Speaker 2: Sanchez beats Pitbull, I mean you're talking about a massive

1310
00:57:38,840 --> 00:57:41,040
Speaker 2: win at that point. So I don't know that I

1311
00:57:41,040 --> 00:57:42,720
Speaker 2: would like that fight as much, even though the story

1312
00:57:42,720 --> 00:57:44,880
Speaker 2: would be kind of cool. So to answer your question

1313
00:57:44,920 --> 00:57:46,640
Speaker 2: in a sort of a roundabout way, I'm looking for

1314
00:57:46,680 --> 00:57:49,440
Speaker 2: a Caldwell pit Bull final, but it could just as

1315
00:57:49,480 --> 00:57:52,920
Speaker 2: easily be McKee versus Sanchez, and you can't hate on it,

1316
00:57:53,000 --> 00:57:56,400
Speaker 2: because again, if you get to the finals, man, nobody

1317
00:57:56,400 --> 00:57:58,320
Speaker 2: handed you that spot. You have to work your ass

1318
00:57:58,360 --> 00:58:01,200
Speaker 2: off to get there, and so I wouldn't complain either way.

1319
00:58:01,400 --> 00:58:05,280
Speaker 4: Yeah, while I go nuts for a McKee pitpull final.

1320
00:58:05,320 --> 00:58:07,560
Speaker 3: I want to see Coldwells wrestling against Pitpule and see

1321
00:58:07,560 --> 00:58:10,000
Speaker 3: if that can be the X factor here. The smaller

1322
00:58:10,000 --> 00:58:12,440
Speaker 3: guy moving up in weight, but he's been great on

1323
00:58:12,480 --> 00:58:15,120
Speaker 3: the ground, it's what he does. Can Pitbull make him

1324
00:58:15,120 --> 00:58:17,800
Speaker 3: have to have, you know, extra gears, extra extra game

1325
00:58:17,840 --> 00:58:18,400
Speaker 3: plans there?

1326
00:58:18,560 --> 00:58:21,000
Speaker 4: Or will the power be too much when Pitbull touches people?

1327
00:58:21,080 --> 00:58:23,800
Speaker 3: Lately, Luke, he's like that damn dog with a machete

1328
00:58:23,840 --> 00:58:25,560
Speaker 3: going up against the guy with the skateboard on.

1329
00:58:25,640 --> 00:58:27,560
Speaker 4: Have you seen this shit? The guy's vicious.

1330
00:58:27,600 --> 00:58:31,560
Speaker 2: All right, all right, very good. Lastly, Benson Henderson taking

1331
00:58:31,640 --> 00:58:34,160
Speaker 2: on Jason Jackson. You saw the way in Dude? Am

1332
00:58:34,160 --> 00:58:36,560
Speaker 2: I lying? Or was Benson Henderson Like you ever see

1333
00:58:36,560 --> 00:58:38,040
Speaker 2: those fights? You're like, Wow, this guy must be a

1334
00:58:38,080 --> 00:58:40,640
Speaker 2: weight class below the other guy. No, for real, that's

1335
00:58:40,640 --> 00:58:41,360
Speaker 2: what this looked like.

1336
00:58:41,560 --> 00:58:44,680
Speaker 3: Look, I don't understand why Benson Henderson's taking this specific fight.

1337
00:58:44,720 --> 00:58:47,360
Speaker 3: It's his first welterweight fight in four years since he

1338
00:58:47,440 --> 00:58:50,520
Speaker 3: lost that title bout to Koreshkov when he came into Bellator, Luke,

1339
00:58:50,880 --> 00:58:54,479
Speaker 3: and he's openly said this week, I'm not only half

1340
00:58:54,520 --> 00:58:58,040
Speaker 3: do I need to win the Bellatoor Lightweight Championship. Yes,

1341
00:58:58,080 --> 00:59:00,480
Speaker 3: he just lost a Chandler by one punch knockout in

1342
00:59:00,480 --> 00:59:03,160
Speaker 3: their rematch, but Luke, we know he has that win

1343
00:59:03,240 --> 00:59:05,400
Speaker 3: over Pitbull. Now it was because of you know, leg

1344
00:59:05,440 --> 00:59:08,680
Speaker 3: injury more than anything. But Henderson believes this is sort

1345
00:59:08,680 --> 00:59:11,720
Speaker 3: of like, you know, some back end validation.

1346
00:59:11,320 --> 00:59:12,400
Speaker 4: For his entire career.

1347
00:59:12,560 --> 00:59:16,440
Speaker 3: He was a UFC champion, WEC champion, done great things.

1348
00:59:16,440 --> 00:59:18,400
Speaker 3: I don't think it's wrong to call him a legend.

1349
00:59:18,760 --> 00:59:21,160
Speaker 3: But if he can close by adding a title like

1350
00:59:21,240 --> 00:59:23,080
Speaker 3: that and the belts are, you know, in the final

1351
00:59:23,120 --> 00:59:25,880
Speaker 3: run of his career, it would really strengthen it. Then

1352
00:59:25,880 --> 00:59:29,240
Speaker 3: why are we doing a welterweight fight against a riser

1353
00:59:29,560 --> 00:59:30,240
Speaker 3: in Jackson?

1354
00:59:30,440 --> 00:59:33,000
Speaker 4: Look, Rashaun Evans been talking up this Jackson fellow.

1355
00:59:32,840 --> 00:59:36,360
Speaker 3: Luke for a long time from down there in Sanford MMA,

1356
00:59:36,440 --> 00:59:38,200
Speaker 3: and I thought he got robbed against Ed Ruth.

1357
00:59:38,240 --> 00:59:40,120
Speaker 4: He had dropped him twice and looked good there.

1358
00:59:40,360 --> 00:59:42,280
Speaker 3: And if you look at the split decision loss to

1359
00:59:42,360 --> 00:59:45,080
Speaker 3: Ruth and the other loss for Jackson where he hurt.

1360
00:59:44,920 --> 00:59:47,040
Speaker 4: His leg, outside of that, he's unbeaten. Luke.

1361
00:59:47,080 --> 00:59:49,760
Speaker 3: He's been looking really good and you know, you call yourself,

1362
00:59:49,800 --> 00:59:52,280
Speaker 3: the ash kicking machine. You're gonna get me fired up, Luke,

1363
00:59:52,320 --> 00:59:53,520
Speaker 3: you are, and that's.

1364
00:59:53,280 --> 00:59:56,000
Speaker 2: This Jamaican with you like you know, I don't know

1365
00:59:56,040 --> 00:59:58,560
Speaker 2: that I want to take the cynical approach, but it

1366
00:59:58,600 --> 01:00:00,360
Speaker 2: looks to me it's like they see a few in

1367
01:00:00,440 --> 01:00:02,920
Speaker 2: Jackson and they don't in Henderson, and they'll let's just

1368
01:00:03,040 --> 01:00:05,480
Speaker 2: match up Jackson in a way to get some of

1369
01:00:05,480 --> 01:00:08,280
Speaker 2: the name value from beating a dude like Benson Henderson. Again,

1370
01:00:08,440 --> 01:00:10,240
Speaker 2: I'm not declaring to you that to be the case,

1371
01:00:10,240 --> 01:00:11,920
Speaker 2: because I don't know what the case is, but it

1372
01:00:11,960 --> 01:00:14,520
Speaker 2: certainly smells of it. It certainly looks that way. It's

1373
01:00:14,560 --> 01:00:17,160
Speaker 2: a great opportunity for Jason Jackson. I'm not here to

1374
01:00:17,160 --> 01:00:19,240
Speaker 2: say that Benson Henderson can't or won't win the fight BC.

1375
01:00:19,640 --> 01:00:23,240
Speaker 2: That would be foolish as well, but quite literally a

1376
01:00:23,400 --> 01:00:26,800
Speaker 2: tall order for him to overcome the last of the fights,

1377
01:00:26,840 --> 01:00:27,960
Speaker 2: or I should say, the first of them. That It

1378
01:00:27,960 --> 01:00:30,680
Speaker 2: will air on CBS Sportsnet tomorrow seven pm in the East.

1379
01:00:31,120 --> 01:00:33,760
Speaker 2: This is the one I've got my eye on. Pay attention, folks.

1380
01:00:34,080 --> 01:00:36,280
Speaker 2: The main event is cool, it's great, maybe the best

1381
01:00:36,280 --> 01:00:38,600
Speaker 2: fight on the card by country mile. But the guy

1382
01:00:38,640 --> 01:00:41,800
Speaker 2: you should pay attention to is Joey Davis. Joey Davis

1383
01:00:41,800 --> 01:00:44,720
Speaker 2: calls himself Black Ice. He trains at the body shop

1384
01:00:44,800 --> 01:00:48,280
Speaker 2: with AJ McKee, their longtime teammates, and this dude is

1385
01:00:48,320 --> 01:00:51,360
Speaker 2: the real deal. Holy Field. You want to talk about blueeship prospects,

1386
01:00:51,560 --> 01:00:53,720
Speaker 2: There's been one wrestler in the history of Division one

1387
01:00:54,120 --> 01:00:56,760
Speaker 2: to win all of their matches in college. It's Cale Sanderson.

1388
01:00:56,960 --> 01:00:58,680
Speaker 2: There have been two to do it in Division two,

1389
01:00:58,720 --> 01:01:01,760
Speaker 2: Marcus Levesser, who in the UFC but eventually washed out,

1390
01:01:01,920 --> 01:01:04,440
Speaker 2: and then this guy, Joey Davis. But here's the difference.

1391
01:01:04,760 --> 01:01:06,880
Speaker 2: Lavester was just kind of always a wrestler, and Cale

1392
01:01:06,960 --> 01:01:10,880
Speaker 2: never fought in MMA. Joey Davis, already seven fights into

1393
01:01:10,960 --> 01:01:15,440
Speaker 2: his career, looks so smooth on the feet, calm, patient,

1394
01:01:15,520 --> 01:01:18,600
Speaker 2: but when he needs to explode and uses athleticism smartly

1395
01:01:19,040 --> 01:01:22,520
Speaker 2: he can. He already has an understanding of distance and

1396
01:01:22,560 --> 01:01:25,960
Speaker 2: fakes and faints as brilliant spinning and turning back kicks

1397
01:01:26,200 --> 01:01:28,800
Speaker 2: that he uses to steer opponents into what he's doing.

1398
01:01:29,120 --> 01:01:32,400
Speaker 2: Takes his time, but even with being patient, he still has.

1399
01:01:32,520 --> 01:01:35,360
Speaker 2: Of those seven wins, I believe five first round stoppages,

1400
01:01:35,920 --> 01:01:38,200
Speaker 2: all by the way I think in bellator. And so

1401
01:01:38,240 --> 01:01:40,840
Speaker 2: you're talking about a guy who is just acclimating to

1402
01:01:41,000 --> 01:01:45,200
Speaker 2: MMA at warp fucking speed. There are not many guys

1403
01:01:45,240 --> 01:01:47,760
Speaker 2: I'm gonna give praise to seven fights into their career

1404
01:01:48,240 --> 01:01:50,200
Speaker 2: like this. Joey Davis is one of them. Now he's

1405
01:01:50,200 --> 01:01:52,840
Speaker 2: going to against a guy who's experienced, who's got sixteen

1406
01:01:52,880 --> 01:01:55,479
Speaker 2: pro fights in Bobby Lee. So that's some pushover twelve

1407
01:01:55,560 --> 01:01:57,880
Speaker 2: and four by the way his record. But Joey Davis

1408
01:01:57,960 --> 01:02:01,840
Speaker 2: sho should shine. Excuse me, and I'm looking to see

1409
01:02:01,840 --> 01:02:04,280
Speaker 2: exactly what improvements he makes me see because he looks

1410
01:02:04,280 --> 01:02:06,280
Speaker 2: to be the genuine article I'm not.

1411
01:02:06,400 --> 01:02:08,000
Speaker 4: I'm not well woke to him. I'm excited.

1412
01:02:08,040 --> 01:02:09,560
Speaker 3: You have talked him up in a way that does

1413
01:02:09,600 --> 01:02:11,680
Speaker 3: get me fired up to see this. Luke, and you

1414
01:02:11,760 --> 01:02:15,320
Speaker 3: mentioned Cale never going to the MMA space. Of course,

1415
01:02:15,360 --> 01:02:19,360
Speaker 3: he's an insanely accomplished amateur our collegiate wrestling coach.

1416
01:02:19,400 --> 01:02:21,240
Speaker 4: But would you call him a bitch for never once

1417
01:02:21,280 --> 01:02:23,000
Speaker 4: putting it all on the line? Would you be willing?

1418
01:02:23,120 --> 01:02:26,040
Speaker 2: No? No, I would not do that. I would not

1419
01:02:26,080 --> 01:02:28,920
Speaker 2: do that. By the way, uh Kimbo slash Junior on

1420
01:02:29,000 --> 01:02:31,080
Speaker 2: his card. Boy the buzz is falling off for him.

1421
01:02:31,320 --> 01:02:32,760
Speaker 4: Well, yeah, he's like three and two.

1422
01:02:32,840 --> 01:02:35,200
Speaker 3: He's coming off of a win in which he illegally

1423
01:02:35,280 --> 01:02:38,680
Speaker 3: used some bad elbows and punches to the back of

1424
01:02:38,720 --> 01:02:41,040
Speaker 3: the head and he turned it into a no contest there.

1425
01:02:41,880 --> 01:02:42,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, he's fun.

1426
01:02:42,760 --> 01:02:45,080
Speaker 3: Luke's fun because because he looks like the dad and

1427
01:02:45,120 --> 01:02:48,160
Speaker 3: he's a nice kid. But he might go the way

1428
01:02:48,160 --> 01:02:55,120
Speaker 3: of Conroy, Gracie Luke and Ryan Cotronri Hanri Conroy, Conroy, Wow,

1429
01:02:55,200 --> 01:03:01,400
Speaker 3: Conroy Gracy and Ryan Coteur and uh any other kids

1430
01:03:01,440 --> 01:03:07,080
Speaker 3: of fighters that that that sucked the horn a little bit, Luke, No.

1431
01:03:06,840 --> 01:03:08,520
Speaker 2: No, no matter that I can think of. All right,

1432
01:03:08,600 --> 01:03:11,520
Speaker 2: last and not least BC. Before we get to the

1433
01:03:11,520 --> 01:03:14,120
Speaker 2: social media aspect of the show. On the Wednesday program,

1434
01:03:14,160 --> 01:03:15,960
Speaker 2: here got a little bit of a boxing corner. We

1435
01:03:16,040 --> 01:03:19,680
Speaker 2: got two things to discuss very quickly. First, Fury, it appears,

1436
01:03:19,760 --> 01:03:23,320
Speaker 2: is not going to be fighting Wilder on December fifth.

1437
01:03:23,360 --> 01:03:27,280
Speaker 2: Wilder is now super bitter about it. Without belaboring the point, PC,

1438
01:03:27,440 --> 01:03:28,440
Speaker 2: what can you tell us about it?

1439
01:03:29,480 --> 01:03:32,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, so you want to see you want to you

1440
01:03:32,160 --> 01:03:34,360
Speaker 3: want to get an update on where Deontay wild there is.

1441
01:03:34,480 --> 01:03:37,800
Speaker 3: Check out the Last Stand podcast with Showtime's Brian Custer,

1442
01:03:37,880 --> 01:03:39,440
Speaker 3: and you know, shout out to Brian has been getting

1443
01:03:39,600 --> 01:03:43,040
Speaker 3: some big interviews that others haven't. And uh, he got

1444
01:03:43,120 --> 01:03:45,240
Speaker 3: Deontay for an hour sitting in his car.

1445
01:03:45,800 --> 01:03:46,080
Speaker 4: Luke.

1446
01:03:46,280 --> 01:03:50,080
Speaker 3: I hung on deep into that interview because I was

1447
01:03:50,240 --> 01:03:51,040
Speaker 3: just waiting.

1448
01:03:51,520 --> 01:03:51,680
Speaker 4: You know.

1449
01:03:51,760 --> 01:03:54,160
Speaker 3: Deontay talked about all the people that were at fault

1450
01:03:54,200 --> 01:03:56,640
Speaker 3: for that Tyson Fury rematch, you know, from his suit

1451
01:03:57,080 --> 01:03:59,600
Speaker 3: to the Uh now we say in that Tyson Fury's

1452
01:03:59,600 --> 01:04:03,160
Speaker 3: finger nails protruded through the glove and cut his ear.

1453
01:04:03,600 --> 01:04:06,080
Speaker 4: He's got the somebody doctored his war. Luke.

1454
01:04:06,160 --> 01:04:07,880
Speaker 3: I only hung on to find out if he was

1455
01:04:07,920 --> 01:04:09,880
Speaker 3: going to throw the European banks in there. But he

1456
01:04:09,920 --> 01:04:12,280
Speaker 3: did not mention the name Roth's child at all, Luke,

1457
01:04:12,600 --> 01:04:16,760
Speaker 3: So the conspiracy ended there no Building seven reference either,

1458
01:04:17,680 --> 01:04:19,920
Speaker 3: the Pentagon hole. I mean it was that big, right,

1459
01:04:19,920 --> 01:04:20,640
Speaker 3: but there was a plane.

1460
01:04:20,640 --> 01:04:23,880
Speaker 4: I don't I don't get it either, But Luke, Yeah,

1461
01:04:24,160 --> 01:04:26,400
Speaker 4: what the hell is going on with Deontay wild there?

1462
01:04:26,440 --> 01:04:27,160
Speaker 4: I do not know.

1463
01:04:27,600 --> 01:04:30,800
Speaker 3: It is an entertaining listen just the same, but it's

1464
01:04:30,840 --> 01:04:34,160
Speaker 3: getting to the point where I don't think Tyson Fury

1465
01:04:34,280 --> 01:04:36,640
Speaker 3: wants to or will ever, you know, get in there

1466
01:04:36,920 --> 01:04:38,360
Speaker 3: a third time, because you're.

1467
01:04:38,200 --> 01:04:39,840
Speaker 4: Almost at the what do you have to gain point?

1468
01:04:39,880 --> 01:04:42,720
Speaker 3: This guy's calling you a cheater on ninety six levels

1469
01:04:43,200 --> 01:04:45,840
Speaker 3: and people think you dominated him already in the second fight,

1470
01:04:45,880 --> 01:04:48,720
Speaker 3: which he did. So the update on Fury is, you

1471
01:04:48,760 --> 01:04:50,640
Speaker 3: know he's supposed to fight December fifth against the guy

1472
01:04:50,680 --> 01:04:51,280
Speaker 3: you never heard of.

1473
01:04:51,560 --> 01:04:53,200
Speaker 4: It seems like they couldn't come to terms on.

1474
01:04:53,160 --> 01:04:54,800
Speaker 3: The money for him to turn around quick enough, so

1475
01:04:54,840 --> 01:04:56,720
Speaker 3: now he's looking toward next year.

1476
01:04:57,600 --> 01:04:58,960
Speaker 4: We know he wants Joshua, we.

1477
01:04:58,920 --> 01:05:02,120
Speaker 3: Know aj has mandatory So I'm a little bit more

1478
01:05:02,160 --> 01:05:04,400
Speaker 3: interested Luke and seeing where Deontay Wilder goes in the

1479
01:05:04,440 --> 01:05:06,200
Speaker 3: near future. I know there was some talk at some

1480
01:05:06,320 --> 01:05:08,800
Speaker 3: point because PBC has Andy Rouiz.

1481
01:05:08,840 --> 01:05:10,920
Speaker 4: Would that be sort of an.

1482
01:05:10,440 --> 01:05:13,400
Speaker 3: Early short term big fight to build to look, Deontay

1483
01:05:13,400 --> 01:05:15,160
Speaker 3: Wilder and Andy Ruiz would be some business.

1484
01:05:15,240 --> 01:05:16,120
Speaker 4: I'd be down for that.

1485
01:05:16,480 --> 01:05:18,800
Speaker 2: I'd be totally. It's not that there's not other good

1486
01:05:18,840 --> 01:05:22,480
Speaker 2: fights to make, not even by a long shot. It's

1487
01:05:22,560 --> 01:05:24,840
Speaker 2: just that these two have a certain amount of magnetism.

1488
01:05:24,880 --> 01:05:27,920
Speaker 2: I think we could agree. They have a interesting rivalry.

1489
01:05:28,040 --> 01:05:31,919
Speaker 2: I think we could agree, and there's demand for more

1490
01:05:31,960 --> 01:05:34,320
Speaker 2: of what they offer and so we're in the position

1491
01:05:34,400 --> 01:05:36,480
Speaker 2: that we're in. But it is amazing. By the way,

1492
01:05:36,480 --> 01:05:39,600
Speaker 2: here's a quote from this interview that Wilder did with

1493
01:05:39,640 --> 01:05:44,480
Speaker 2: Brian Custer. Quote. Do gypsies believe in cheating and you

1494
01:05:44,560 --> 01:05:47,160
Speaker 2: don't cheat, they consider you to be a sucker. We

1495
01:05:47,200 --> 01:05:52,560
Speaker 2: have the clip. If we have the clip, all right,

1496
01:05:52,600 --> 01:05:53,000
Speaker 2: look at this.

1497
01:06:05,680 --> 01:06:10,720
Speaker 5: After that fight when you lost your belt the fury,

1498
01:06:11,400 --> 01:06:13,360
Speaker 5: and I'm quoting you, you said, listen, I had a

1499
01:06:13,400 --> 01:06:14,400
Speaker 5: lot of things going.

1500
01:06:15,360 --> 01:06:17,000
Speaker 2: Let me correct, let me correct you when I.

1501
01:06:17,400 --> 01:06:21,240
Speaker 5: After that fight, when when you lost your your your

1502
01:06:21,640 --> 01:06:24,640
Speaker 5: belt of fury, and I'm quoting you, you said, listen,

1503
01:06:24,720 --> 01:06:26,160
Speaker 5: I had a lot of things going.

1504
01:06:27,120 --> 01:06:28,400
Speaker 2: Let me correct, let me correct it.

1505
01:06:28,440 --> 01:06:32,600
Speaker 6: When I got cheated out of my Okay, you said,

1506
01:06:32,720 --> 01:06:35,560
Speaker 6: see as you said, quote, I had a lot of

1507
01:06:35,560 --> 01:06:37,600
Speaker 6: things going on coming into this fight.

1508
01:06:38,120 --> 01:06:39,280
Speaker 2: But I have no excuses.

1509
01:06:39,320 --> 01:06:40,760
Speaker 4: The best man won tonight.

1510
01:06:42,360 --> 01:06:43,480
Speaker 2: Why has that changed?

1511
01:06:45,280 --> 01:06:48,720
Speaker 6: I mean he cheated, he fled out, cheated. That wasn't

1512
01:06:48,760 --> 01:06:51,400
Speaker 6: the best man. That was the coward of a man.

1513
01:06:51,560 --> 01:06:53,800
Speaker 6: You know, he got a long reputation of cheating and

1514
01:06:54,160 --> 01:06:57,760
Speaker 6: this right here is nothing, nothing less of him. I

1515
01:06:57,840 --> 01:07:00,920
Speaker 6: mean he's known a known cheaterh So if you're know

1516
01:07:01,000 --> 01:07:02,000
Speaker 6: him to be a known cheeta.

1517
01:07:02,040 --> 01:07:03,080
Speaker 2: Why are you gonna step down?

1518
01:07:03,120 --> 01:07:05,000
Speaker 6: You know that just is believing if they have an

1519
01:07:05,000 --> 01:07:07,920
Speaker 6: opportunity to cheat and they don't cheat, they consider you

1520
01:07:08,040 --> 01:07:08,800
Speaker 6: to be a sucker.

1521
01:07:15,560 --> 01:07:18,280
Speaker 4: Oh yes, I could. Hey, while there was doing that move,

1522
01:07:18,360 --> 01:07:20,560
Speaker 4: I do when I get a gas station hot dog, Luke.

1523
01:07:20,760 --> 01:07:22,800
Speaker 4: But the bond is like week old, so as you're

1524
01:07:22,840 --> 01:07:25,320
Speaker 4: eating it, the bunge just deteriorates, and then you're constantly

1525
01:07:25,360 --> 01:07:27,439
Speaker 4: reaching down to your crotch and pushing the crumbs onto

1526
01:07:27,440 --> 01:07:29,600
Speaker 4: the floor while you're driving. I've been there. I saw

1527
01:07:29,640 --> 01:07:32,560
Speaker 4: Deontay pulling that move during that interview. Luke. He I'm

1528
01:07:32,560 --> 01:07:33,920
Speaker 4: a conspiracy guy, but.

1529
01:07:33,960 --> 01:07:35,320
Speaker 2: He was like, you know, you know what it looked

1530
01:07:35,320 --> 01:07:37,400
Speaker 2: like to me real quickly. It lily that in that

1531
01:07:37,520 --> 01:07:41,080
Speaker 2: video of Kawhi Leonard, who was obviously rolling a blunt

1532
01:07:41,080 --> 01:07:43,880
Speaker 2: after the Raptors won the NBA Championship, but he was

1533
01:07:43,960 --> 01:07:47,720
Speaker 2: rolling the blunt inside the car, just outside of the

1534
01:07:48,080 --> 01:07:50,920
Speaker 2: view of the camera, and he was like, what it do, baby?

1535
01:07:52,040 --> 01:07:54,280
Speaker 2: I didn't seeming to take up all the shake from

1536
01:07:54,280 --> 01:07:54,640
Speaker 2: the bag.

1537
01:07:54,680 --> 01:07:56,640
Speaker 4: There been there too.

1538
01:07:56,760 --> 01:07:59,400
Speaker 3: I thought you're gonna reference the John Jones Albuquerque pullover,

1539
01:07:59,440 --> 01:08:00,600
Speaker 3: but that's another story as well.

1540
01:08:00,800 --> 01:08:01,000
Speaker 4: Luke.

1541
01:08:01,240 --> 01:08:05,160
Speaker 3: What I'm saying is he's so committed to this compiracy theory.

1542
01:08:05,480 --> 01:08:09,920
Speaker 3: He's got the Commission, the state, the promoters, the fighters,

1543
01:08:10,200 --> 01:08:14,680
Speaker 3: his own assistant trainer. He's got everybody conspiring against him.

1544
01:08:14,720 --> 01:08:17,120
Speaker 3: He's so committed. In this interview, though, I actually want

1545
01:08:17,160 --> 01:08:19,720
Speaker 3: to believe him, because I'm like, if he's going to

1546
01:08:19,800 --> 01:08:21,720
Speaker 3: go down this road by himself, somebody's got to walk

1547
01:08:21,720 --> 01:08:21,960
Speaker 3: with him.

1548
01:08:22,000 --> 01:08:23,839
Speaker 4: Like I almost want to be there with him, Luke.

1549
01:08:23,640 --> 01:08:26,000
Speaker 3: And just say, you know what, You're damn right, Okay,

1550
01:08:26,240 --> 01:08:29,680
Speaker 3: first uh for first they got Kennedy and then they

1551
01:08:29,680 --> 01:08:30,760
Speaker 3: got you, Deontay.

1552
01:08:30,920 --> 01:08:34,000
Speaker 4: You know, it is what it is bro to this day.

1553
01:08:34,479 --> 01:08:36,080
Speaker 4: I don't know how to react to that, Luke.

1554
01:08:36,120 --> 01:08:36,439
Speaker 2: It is.

1555
01:08:36,600 --> 01:08:40,000
Speaker 4: It's disarming. If again, if this is the only way for.

1556
01:08:40,040 --> 01:08:43,760
Speaker 3: Him to get himself back up and go and then

1557
01:08:43,920 --> 01:08:46,479
Speaker 3: then go on with your bad self. He did mention

1558
01:08:46,560 --> 01:08:49,599
Speaker 3: in there, Luke, when Brian Custer asked him about switching

1559
01:08:49,720 --> 01:08:52,360
Speaker 3: chainers or adding a new trainer to go along with

1560
01:08:52,680 --> 01:08:54,760
Speaker 3: j D's who has been loyal to who he said

1561
01:08:54,960 --> 01:08:57,840
Speaker 3: he ripped out jay D's as a hole, he said,

1562
01:08:58,080 --> 01:09:00,559
Speaker 3: for not checking the gloves on Fury well enough, but

1563
01:09:00,800 --> 01:09:02,800
Speaker 3: he said there is a trainer they're targeting.

1564
01:09:03,000 --> 01:09:04,719
Speaker 4: They won't mention names, but what did.

1565
01:09:04,600 --> 01:09:06,120
Speaker 3: You hear when Custer asked him if it's going to

1566
01:09:06,160 --> 01:09:08,559
Speaker 3: be Floyd, and he went on like a fifteen minute

1567
01:09:08,600 --> 01:09:12,120
Speaker 3: ran about how he thinks Floyd is fake, doesn't support him,

1568
01:09:12,240 --> 01:09:13,439
Speaker 3: thinks Floyd would only do it.

1569
01:09:13,400 --> 01:09:15,519
Speaker 4: To try to bring attention to himself and take credit.

1570
01:09:15,720 --> 01:09:17,920
Speaker 3: It was an interesting sort of look on the inside

1571
01:09:17,960 --> 01:09:20,599
Speaker 3: of the PBC there for two of the biggest names,

1572
01:09:20,960 --> 01:09:23,920
Speaker 3: and just you know, most people don't come at Floyd

1573
01:09:23,960 --> 01:09:25,640
Speaker 3: like that, right, They don't come with the king, And

1574
01:09:26,120 --> 01:09:27,360
Speaker 3: I think he just went for the head, I think,

1575
01:09:27,520 --> 01:09:28,920
Speaker 3: just ahead of him. It was pretty intense.

1576
01:09:29,360 --> 01:09:31,400
Speaker 2: And then last but not least, BC we end on

1577
01:09:31,439 --> 01:09:35,760
Speaker 2: this one. We have Canelo Alvarez December nineteenth taking on

1578
01:09:36,080 --> 01:09:38,479
Speaker 2: Callum Smith. It's official he's going to be back on

1579
01:09:38,560 --> 01:09:41,160
Speaker 2: his own, although not with Golden Boy. He's going to

1580
01:09:41,200 --> 01:09:43,320
Speaker 2: be with Eddie Hearn and mattrim a couple of things

1581
01:09:43,320 --> 01:09:46,120
Speaker 2: that came out of that bit of news. BC we

1582
01:09:46,160 --> 01:09:47,640
Speaker 2: already kind of talked about some of this, but he

1583
01:09:47,640 --> 01:09:51,000
Speaker 2: actually said, unless I'm mistaken, he was actually not going

1584
01:09:51,080 --> 01:09:53,120
Speaker 2: to go back to one hundred and sixty pounds anymore.

1585
01:09:53,160 --> 01:09:55,920
Speaker 2: He was looking forward to just maintaining at one hundred

1586
01:09:55,960 --> 01:09:58,160
Speaker 2: and sixty eight. What is the situation there.

1587
01:09:58,600 --> 01:10:00,519
Speaker 3: Yeah, this is one hundred and sixty eight pound fight.

1588
01:10:00,560 --> 01:10:03,519
Speaker 3: And again this is a ballsy move. He can fight anybody.

1589
01:10:03,600 --> 01:10:06,160
Speaker 3: He's taking a tough fight on beating Calm Smith, who's

1590
01:10:06,160 --> 01:10:08,639
Speaker 3: got a knockout power. He's like seven inches taller than

1591
01:10:08,640 --> 01:10:12,240
Speaker 3: Canelo and he Calm Smith has the full title at

1592
01:10:12,240 --> 01:10:14,600
Speaker 3: one hundred and sixty eight pounds in the WBA, that

1593
01:10:14,720 --> 01:10:18,080
Speaker 3: Canelo has the bastardized junior version when he knocked out

1594
01:10:18,160 --> 01:10:20,519
Speaker 3: Rocky Fielding that time at Madison Square Gardens. So in

1595
01:10:20,560 --> 01:10:23,240
Speaker 3: a lot of ways, it's like putting together the broken

1596
01:10:23,479 --> 01:10:26,320
Speaker 3: sphere of boxing moving to this, you know, bigger weight

1597
01:10:26,400 --> 01:10:27,679
Speaker 3: class and combining belts.

1598
01:10:27,760 --> 01:10:29,000
Speaker 4: I am all for it, Luke.

1599
01:10:29,200 --> 01:10:31,439
Speaker 3: Seriously, we would not have given him hell if he

1600
01:10:31,479 --> 01:10:35,280
Speaker 3: just came back against any old anyone super middleweight, to anybody.

1601
01:10:35,439 --> 01:10:36,920
Speaker 4: He's going in there against Calm Smith.

1602
01:10:37,000 --> 01:10:39,720
Speaker 3: Now in the in the favor here of Canelo is

1603
01:10:39,720 --> 01:10:43,160
Speaker 3: that Smith, despite being bigger, younger, very strong, he's coming

1604
01:10:43,160 --> 01:10:47,000
Speaker 3: off a bad performance against John Ryder, a British.

1605
01:10:46,600 --> 01:10:47,960
Speaker 4: Sort of not every man.

1606
01:10:48,040 --> 01:10:50,920
Speaker 3: He's good, he's okay, he's not great, and Calm Smith

1607
01:10:50,920 --> 01:10:53,280
Speaker 3: got away with a decision that it's just hard.

1608
01:10:53,320 --> 01:10:54,519
Speaker 4: It was hard to believe in the moment.

1609
01:10:54,880 --> 01:10:57,639
Speaker 3: So he's not coming in streaking, but he's a big

1610
01:10:57,720 --> 01:10:59,800
Speaker 3: dude with some pop. This is not gonna be an

1611
01:10:59,800 --> 01:11:02,320
Speaker 3: easy fight for Canelo. And oh, by the way, Canelo

1612
01:11:02,760 --> 01:11:06,000
Speaker 3: destroyed Callum's older brother.

1613
01:11:05,800 --> 01:11:08,240
Speaker 4: You know, Liam Beefy Smith. Remember when they fought.

1614
01:11:08,120 --> 01:11:11,040
Speaker 3: Inside Jerry World for the junior middleweight title a couple

1615
01:11:11,040 --> 01:11:12,880
Speaker 3: of years back before the first Glove Can fight.

1616
01:11:13,080 --> 01:11:15,639
Speaker 4: There's the four fighting Smith brothers. It's a good story

1617
01:11:15,640 --> 01:11:16,120
Speaker 4: in England.

1618
01:11:16,360 --> 01:11:18,200
Speaker 3: Callum might be the best of them all, so it'll

1619
01:11:18,240 --> 01:11:21,120
Speaker 3: be a little redemption here. It's Canelo going back to

1620
01:11:21,160 --> 01:11:24,360
Speaker 3: his old network and Luke. What's interesting is his ownes.

1621
01:11:24,479 --> 01:11:27,000
Speaker 3: They're not dead yet. They're gonna be doing that Triple

1622
01:11:27,080 --> 01:11:29,760
Speaker 3: G title defense against that name you never heard of

1623
01:11:29,880 --> 01:11:32,800
Speaker 3: the day before this Canelo fight, and they're also looking

1624
01:11:32,880 --> 01:11:36,439
Speaker 3: to do the Ryan Garcia Luke Campbell fight as a

1625
01:11:36,479 --> 01:11:39,960
Speaker 3: separate card in that same week. If they could get

1626
01:11:39,960 --> 01:11:42,439
Speaker 3: Canelo and Triple G back on the same schedule. It's

1627
01:11:42,479 --> 01:11:45,800
Speaker 3: not likely here, it's not likely because triple because Canelo

1628
01:11:45,840 --> 01:11:48,400
Speaker 3: hates triple G. All right, it's not likely, but if

1629
01:11:48,400 --> 01:11:51,200
Speaker 3: they're on the same schedule, it's not impossible that they

1630
01:11:51,240 --> 01:11:53,160
Speaker 3: could fight a trilogy fight next spring.

1631
01:11:53,520 --> 01:11:56,200
Speaker 4: With Canelo being a free agent, it's not impossible. You

1632
01:11:56,240 --> 01:11:58,240
Speaker 4: would not have to include Oscar de la Hoya or

1633
01:11:58,240 --> 01:11:58,800
Speaker 4: Golden Boy.

1634
01:11:59,120 --> 01:12:01,519
Speaker 3: You know, it's more likely Canelo goes to the PBC

1635
01:12:01,640 --> 01:12:03,840
Speaker 3: and signs a deal, but it's not impossible, and that's

1636
01:12:03,840 --> 01:12:04,240
Speaker 3: good to know.

1637
01:12:05,120 --> 01:12:07,000
Speaker 2: A couple of things I would say here the odds

1638
01:12:07,080 --> 01:12:11,080
Speaker 2: currently they have it at Canelo Alvarez minus six or

1639
01:12:11,160 --> 01:12:14,120
Speaker 2: seven hundred in certain places, and then about a plus

1640
01:12:14,160 --> 01:12:16,559
Speaker 2: four point fifty for Callum Smith, which again by MMA odds,

1641
01:12:16,560 --> 01:12:20,439
Speaker 2: would be a blowout button boxing not crazy odds per

1642
01:12:20,479 --> 01:12:23,160
Speaker 2: se gives Calum Smith a little bit of a chance,

1643
01:12:23,240 --> 01:12:26,080
Speaker 2: so worth pointing out there. Secondly, with the Zone, this

1644
01:12:26,120 --> 01:12:28,519
Speaker 2: is my understanding BC. If you watch this fight, the

1645
01:12:29,080 --> 01:12:32,719
Speaker 2: Canelo versus Smith fight, if you watch it in Mexico,

1646
01:12:32,800 --> 01:12:35,800
Speaker 2: it'll air on a s Teca TV, right, but everywhere else,

1647
01:12:36,040 --> 01:12:39,519
Speaker 2: including the UK, it's going to be on the Zone,

1648
01:12:39,600 --> 01:12:43,480
Speaker 2: which makes this for a global event and a global property,

1649
01:12:44,000 --> 01:12:45,880
Speaker 2: something of a big win for de Zone because I

1650
01:12:45,920 --> 01:12:47,680
Speaker 2: don't know that they would have gotten that otherwise. Did

1651
01:12:47,720 --> 01:12:48,680
Speaker 2: I get those details right?

1652
01:12:48,800 --> 01:12:52,280
Speaker 4: Yeah? You did. They went global, not quietly. It just

1653
01:12:52,360 --> 01:12:52,920
Speaker 4: wasn't a story.

1654
01:12:52,960 --> 01:12:54,679
Speaker 3: People went nuts on a couple of weeks ago where

1655
01:12:54,680 --> 01:12:56,639
Speaker 3: they sort of announced that.

1656
01:12:56,560 --> 01:12:57,760
Speaker 4: It's, you know, a global app.

1657
01:12:57,760 --> 01:13:00,320
Speaker 3: Now it's not like, well, I've got the Italian zone,

1658
01:13:00,320 --> 01:13:02,000
Speaker 3: so I get all this soccer, I've got this, I've

1659
01:13:02,000 --> 01:13:04,439
Speaker 3: got that. I mean, there's still some limitations my country,

1660
01:13:04,439 --> 01:13:06,840
Speaker 3: but look, we rightfully shat.

1661
01:13:06,560 --> 01:13:07,200
Speaker 4: On them this year.

1662
01:13:07,240 --> 01:13:09,360
Speaker 3: It's been a bad year for his own and it

1663
01:13:09,520 --> 01:13:12,000
Speaker 3: just got worse when Canelo just up and left.

1664
01:13:12,040 --> 01:13:13,000
Speaker 4: But now he's back.

1665
01:13:13,080 --> 01:13:14,760
Speaker 3: Could be just for one night, but that could be

1666
01:13:14,800 --> 01:13:16,519
Speaker 3: a good night for them, and this is a good

1667
01:13:16,520 --> 01:13:19,639
Speaker 3: ass fight. Look, Canelo should win this. He's the better boxer.

1668
01:13:19,880 --> 01:13:22,960
Speaker 3: He's incredibly strong going to the body. He's the puffer

1669
01:13:23,000 --> 01:13:25,280
Speaker 3: pound best in the world in my opinion. He should

1670
01:13:25,280 --> 01:13:26,599
Speaker 3: figure out Callum Smith and.

1671
01:13:26,560 --> 01:13:29,439
Speaker 4: Maybe even stop him. But cal Smith is big and strong,

1672
01:13:29,520 --> 01:13:32,720
Speaker 4: so there's danger here. Looke. We talk about resumes all

1673
01:13:32,760 --> 01:13:34,160
Speaker 4: the time in the UFC.

1674
01:13:34,280 --> 01:13:36,719
Speaker 3: If you're willing, if you're an RDA or a Max Holloway,

1675
01:13:36,760 --> 01:13:38,280
Speaker 3: like you know, you always want to face the best.

1676
01:13:38,320 --> 01:13:42,639
Speaker 4: You can accrue and badass resume even not trying.

1677
01:13:42,920 --> 01:13:45,920
Speaker 3: In the UFC, you can accrue a pretty badass resume

1678
01:13:45,960 --> 01:13:49,280
Speaker 3: because the best typically always face the best in boxing.

1679
01:13:49,880 --> 01:13:54,160
Speaker 3: You can go soft as a hard on in arctic

1680
01:13:54,200 --> 01:13:56,840
Speaker 3: weather if you want, Luke, and many guys do. Who's

1681
01:13:56,840 --> 01:13:59,320
Speaker 3: got a better top end resume than Canelo? I mean

1682
01:13:59,320 --> 01:14:02,599
Speaker 3: this is his air and he is only constantly adding

1683
01:14:02,640 --> 01:14:05,720
Speaker 3: to it. That Rocky Fielding fight is like is like

1684
01:14:05,800 --> 01:14:07,960
Speaker 3: the one gimme and it really wasn't a gimmey. He

1685
01:14:07,960 --> 01:14:10,160
Speaker 3: moved up and weight against a much taller guy for

1686
01:14:10,160 --> 01:14:13,719
Speaker 3: a secondary title. But he just doesn't have shitty stay

1687
01:14:13,720 --> 01:14:15,479
Speaker 3: busy ones. I mean, you know you could rip on

1688
01:14:15,520 --> 01:14:17,479
Speaker 3: him because the Meir Khan came up in way and

1689
01:14:17,520 --> 01:14:21,080
Speaker 3: he sent him to hell. But Canelo faces everybody, Luke,

1690
01:14:21,160 --> 01:14:22,880
Speaker 3: and whether he deserves the decision or not.

1691
01:14:22,840 --> 01:14:24,080
Speaker 4: And these is another story.

1692
01:14:24,360 --> 01:14:26,800
Speaker 3: But you want your biggest star in the sport to

1693
01:14:27,000 --> 01:14:29,800
Speaker 3: always be looking to face the best, and you gotta

1694
01:14:29,800 --> 01:14:31,200
Speaker 3: give Big Red that respect always.

1695
01:14:31,240 --> 01:14:32,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think the only figure that people get after

1696
01:14:32,880 --> 01:14:35,040
Speaker 2: Canelo for is they thought he either lost the first

1697
01:14:35,120 --> 01:14:38,519
Speaker 2: or second Triple G fights or even the Arislandi Laura fight.

1698
01:14:38,560 --> 01:14:40,360
Speaker 2: I think some people thought he lost that one as well,

1699
01:14:41,360 --> 01:14:43,240
Speaker 2: and so they're always like, yeah, but you should be this,

1700
01:14:43,320 --> 01:14:45,000
Speaker 2: it should be this. Okay, maybe it should, Maybe it

1701
01:14:45,000 --> 01:14:46,720
Speaker 2: should I don't know. We can have that debate. But

1702
01:14:46,800 --> 01:14:49,280
Speaker 2: to your point, it's like who whenever he's looking for

1703
01:14:49,360 --> 01:14:54,000
Speaker 2: next man up. In general, he's looking for serious challenges

1704
01:14:54,040 --> 01:14:57,120
Speaker 2: and you have to respect that. I certainly do. All right, BC,

1705
01:14:57,920 --> 01:15:00,920
Speaker 2: it's time for the segment you to have control of.

1706
01:15:01,320 --> 01:15:03,719
Speaker 2: It's where we look at what happened on social media

1707
01:15:03,720 --> 01:15:05,320
Speaker 2: and decide right and wrong.

1708
01:15:05,920 --> 01:15:10,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's called social Justice Wednesday.

1709
01:15:10,400 --> 01:15:12,640
Speaker 4: It's also a No Jay Wednesday, so enjoy that.

1710
01:15:13,160 --> 01:15:15,800
Speaker 3: And also, Luke, we will call on the honorable one

1711
01:15:16,080 --> 01:15:19,760
Speaker 3: Luke Bader Ginsburg to come in here and settle these

1712
01:15:19,840 --> 01:15:23,439
Speaker 3: fighter all fighter beefs. No surprise, John Jones is back

1713
01:15:23,479 --> 01:15:27,559
Speaker 3: Babama with YSADA. You are guilty until proven innocent, unless

1714
01:15:27,560 --> 01:15:30,160
Speaker 3: you are the goat. When you've been winning this damn long,

1715
01:15:30,240 --> 01:15:33,000
Speaker 3: you remain guilty. It helps people sleep at night. This

1716
01:15:33,080 --> 01:15:35,439
Speaker 3: is part of a multi series of tweets in.

1717
01:15:35,400 --> 01:15:38,439
Speaker 4: Which John Bones Jones, not seemingly fired up by anybody,

1718
01:15:38,560 --> 01:15:44,480
Speaker 4: Luke just started defending himself and really playing up his teflonness.

1719
01:15:44,560 --> 01:15:46,960
Speaker 4: He says, people will remember I was accused of steroids.

1720
01:15:47,080 --> 01:15:48,360
Speaker 4: They will also remember that I.

1721
01:15:48,360 --> 01:15:51,360
Speaker 3: Was proven innocent and able to continue with my career

1722
01:15:51,680 --> 01:15:54,519
Speaker 3: hashtag facts. But Luke, when you put out comments like

1723
01:15:54,560 --> 01:15:55,120
Speaker 3: this that are.

1724
01:15:55,000 --> 01:15:57,240
Speaker 4: Polarizing, someone's going to take the bait.

1725
01:15:57,640 --> 01:16:00,000
Speaker 3: And then John went after DC, you lost your life

1726
01:16:00,280 --> 01:16:03,200
Speaker 3: fight and then quit the sport talk about being eliminated

1727
01:16:03,240 --> 01:16:07,760
Speaker 3: from the essentially the goat conversation. DC didn't like that, Luke.

1728
01:16:07,840 --> 01:16:09,200
Speaker 3: I don't know if you watch him these days, he

1729
01:16:09,479 --> 01:16:11,640
Speaker 3: pairs himself with a Canadian journalist on a show very

1730
01:16:11,720 --> 01:16:14,479
Speaker 3: much like this. He said, John Jones came out here

1731
01:16:14,520 --> 01:16:17,840
Speaker 3: with this Naysayerhers will always try to discourage you from

1732
01:16:17,880 --> 01:16:18,720
Speaker 3: having something.

1733
01:16:18,479 --> 01:16:19,080
Speaker 4: They can't have.

1734
01:16:19,479 --> 01:16:21,519
Speaker 3: DC is a stand up guy, but he will never

1735
01:16:21,560 --> 01:16:23,559
Speaker 3: be considered one of the best at anything.

1736
01:16:24,080 --> 01:16:26,200
Speaker 4: Puts that up with and is what it is meme,

1737
01:16:26,720 --> 01:16:27,840
Speaker 4: Look why is he doing this?

1738
01:16:29,520 --> 01:16:32,280
Speaker 2: You know what? He also said something I haven't seen

1739
01:16:32,320 --> 01:16:34,000
Speaker 2: all Jesus Christ, a man who fell short and now

1740
01:16:34,000 --> 01:16:35,879
Speaker 2: sits back and talks about what I can't do. Hilarious,

1741
01:16:36,400 --> 01:16:41,880
Speaker 2: So he must one tweet where Jesus it still keeps going.

1742
01:16:42,000 --> 01:16:44,960
Speaker 2: Fucking ay, I've lost many times throughout life, but the

1743
01:16:45,000 --> 01:16:46,720
Speaker 2: fierce competitor me won't let me go out with an

1744
01:16:46,880 --> 01:16:49,559
Speaker 2: l Honestly, that's what I remember most about DC quitting

1745
01:16:49,600 --> 01:16:50,559
Speaker 2: on his fans of sport.

1746
01:16:51,240 --> 01:16:53,320
Speaker 4: Okay, so look, oh, I'll pause the film here.

1747
01:16:53,439 --> 01:16:56,439
Speaker 3: He's trying to learn DC to a trilogy, right, Luke,

1748
01:16:56,479 --> 01:16:58,040
Speaker 3: he's trying to learn him into a trilogy.

1749
01:16:58,120 --> 01:16:58,680
Speaker 4: Ready, Probably I.

1750
01:16:58,640 --> 01:17:00,560
Speaker 2: Don't know what he's doing. Here's the thing I was

1751
01:17:00,600 --> 01:17:03,880
Speaker 2: gonna say. I saw one tweet he had where someone

1752
01:17:03,920 --> 01:17:06,479
Speaker 2: was asking him about fighting Izzy, and he said something like,

1753
01:17:07,240 --> 01:17:10,280
Speaker 2: you know, something to the effect of, I don't even

1754
01:17:10,520 --> 01:17:12,200
Speaker 2: like you know, he does nothing for me. I don't

1755
01:17:12,200 --> 01:17:14,680
Speaker 2: even think about him, you know. And I'm paraphrasing here.

1756
01:17:14,680 --> 01:17:17,160
Speaker 2: I'm sure I'm not getting it totally right, but I

1757
01:17:17,200 --> 01:17:19,080
Speaker 2: remember reading the tweet and being like, man, you do

1758
01:17:19,120 --> 01:17:21,679
Speaker 2: an awful lot of tweeting for somebody who you claim

1759
01:17:21,760 --> 01:17:25,240
Speaker 2: to be as utterly insignificant in your life. And it's

1760
01:17:25,280 --> 01:17:27,680
Speaker 2: like he did this with Kabeb in a different way.

1761
01:17:27,760 --> 01:17:31,400
Speaker 2: Of course, it wasn't as acrimonious, and even with DC

1762
01:17:31,680 --> 01:17:34,960
Speaker 2: it doesn't have the same acrimony it once did. But

1763
01:17:35,040 --> 01:17:37,120
Speaker 2: it's like he takes to Twitter for these things, and

1764
01:17:37,240 --> 01:17:40,040
Speaker 2: like part of it I understand, Like I'm with him

1765
01:17:40,040 --> 01:17:41,479
Speaker 2: on the idea that's like, oh, people are, oh he

1766
01:17:41,520 --> 01:17:43,160
Speaker 2: failed a bunch of tests. Guys, you gotta read what

1767
01:17:43,200 --> 01:17:45,360
Speaker 2: you Sawa wrote. I know a bunch of people didn't

1768
01:17:45,360 --> 01:17:48,000
Speaker 2: read with the with the arbitrators wrote I did. I

1769
01:17:48,040 --> 01:17:51,000
Speaker 2: read every page of it. Okay. The guy who did

1770
01:17:51,000 --> 01:17:54,360
Speaker 2: the report for the arbitration is Robert McClair, after the

1771
01:17:54,360 --> 01:17:56,720
Speaker 2: famous McLaren report, which was involved in if you saw

1772
01:17:56,880 --> 01:17:59,519
Speaker 2: Icarus and the whole you know, Russian scandal. Right, So

1773
01:17:59,520 --> 01:18:02,240
Speaker 2: this is a guy who is famous in the anti

1774
01:18:02,280 --> 01:18:04,680
Speaker 2: doping world for being, you know, a hard ass. And

1775
01:18:04,800 --> 01:18:07,960
Speaker 2: in that they basically say not. Basically they say, outright,

1776
01:18:08,280 --> 01:18:10,519
Speaker 2: we don't think John cheated. Now, you are allowed to

1777
01:18:10,560 --> 01:18:14,200
Speaker 2: say whatever you want about the report or McLaren or whatever,

1778
01:18:14,640 --> 01:18:18,000
Speaker 2: but in terms of what the anti doping record shows,

1779
01:18:18,760 --> 01:18:21,320
Speaker 2: the record as it is written, and you know, this

1780
01:18:21,400 --> 01:18:23,759
Speaker 2: is why I think anti doping, among many other reasons,

1781
01:18:23,760 --> 01:18:29,320
Speaker 2: deserves to be reconsidered as a position of automatic, you know, greatness.

1782
01:18:29,600 --> 01:18:33,760
Speaker 2: But in those written documents, John is exonerated of explicit wrongdoing.

1783
01:18:34,080 --> 01:18:36,479
Speaker 2: There are many other criticisms that they make of him.

1784
01:18:36,920 --> 01:18:40,719
Speaker 2: But in the documents he is exonerated for the charges

1785
01:18:40,720 --> 01:18:44,840
Speaker 2: he is talking about here, and so that's why he

1786
01:18:44,960 --> 01:18:47,320
Speaker 2: says what he says, and he goes, Jesus Christ, it's

1787
01:18:47,320 --> 01:18:48,479
Speaker 2: still fucking going. Well.

1788
01:18:48,680 --> 01:18:50,519
Speaker 3: Somebody came and said, do you feel the same about

1789
01:18:50,640 --> 01:18:53,240
Speaker 3: Anderson Silva? John said no, Anderson fought back from a

1790
01:18:53,240 --> 01:18:59,160
Speaker 3: gruesome leg injury. Success defeated DC. Success defeated DC. The

1791
01:18:59,240 --> 01:19:02,240
Speaker 3: man would rather have Popeye's Chicken remaining at a high levels,

1792
01:19:02,280 --> 01:19:04,800
Speaker 3: not for everyone. He must have saw DC say something

1793
01:19:04,800 --> 01:19:07,320
Speaker 3: on the Aerial show and got mad and responded, I

1794
01:19:07,640 --> 01:19:08,760
Speaker 3: don't know the origin of this.

1795
01:19:09,360 --> 01:19:11,479
Speaker 2: John comes home, My god, it's still going.

1796
01:19:11,840 --> 01:19:14,000
Speaker 3: Getting back up after being knocked down is a very

1797
01:19:14,000 --> 01:19:15,640
Speaker 3: hard thing to do. It's easy to quit and just

1798
01:19:15,680 --> 01:19:18,600
Speaker 3: talk from the sidelines. DC has absolutely no leverage to

1799
01:19:18,600 --> 01:19:21,240
Speaker 3: talk about. Who is going to be at goat or not?

1800
01:19:22,560 --> 01:19:24,040
Speaker 4: Does it end here? What else we got?

1801
01:19:24,560 --> 01:19:26,520
Speaker 2: Jesus, Oh my god.

1802
01:19:27,040 --> 01:19:29,880
Speaker 3: People say DC was a double champ. John respond sure,

1803
01:19:29,920 --> 01:19:30,960
Speaker 3: but was he really?

1804
01:19:31,040 --> 01:19:31,360
Speaker 2: Though?

1805
01:19:32,880 --> 01:19:38,320
Speaker 3: All right? U, yeah, you shot and never found steroids

1806
01:19:38,360 --> 01:19:40,360
Speaker 3: in my system, And that's an absolute fact.

1807
01:19:40,640 --> 01:19:42,360
Speaker 4: Most of you would never look that up though.

1808
01:19:42,520 --> 01:19:49,200
Speaker 2: Keep it going here, Uh.

1809
01:19:47,439 --> 01:19:49,679
Speaker 3: Now, they're telling him to fight, is he He says, yeah,

1810
01:19:49,920 --> 01:19:51,040
Speaker 3: just how he envisioned it.

1811
01:19:51,040 --> 01:19:53,880
Speaker 4: The arena he wanted and everything. There's not a man

1812
01:19:53,920 --> 01:19:55,679
Speaker 4: on this planet that tells me what to do.

1813
01:19:56,040 --> 01:19:58,080
Speaker 3: I marched to the beat of my own drum. There's

1814
01:19:58,120 --> 01:20:01,040
Speaker 3: no Red Penny Knight for Izzy without me. I may

1815
01:20:01,200 --> 01:20:03,680
Speaker 3: just keep him broke, all right? Well, John had a

1816
01:20:03,680 --> 01:20:05,800
Speaker 3: good night here with the uh with.

1817
01:20:05,720 --> 01:20:07,160
Speaker 2: The especially not mad?

1818
01:20:07,479 --> 01:20:09,760
Speaker 4: Does this end at all? With DC selling sending him back?

1819
01:20:09,880 --> 01:20:13,080
Speaker 2: We could, honestly, we could just do a podcast devoted

1820
01:20:13,120 --> 01:20:16,559
Speaker 2: to his tweets every single It just doesn't end. It

1821
01:20:16,680 --> 01:20:18,880
Speaker 2: just doesn't end, all right.

1822
01:20:19,120 --> 01:20:22,479
Speaker 4: Well, John came back with uh yeah, finally BC.

1823
01:20:23,000 --> 01:20:25,280
Speaker 2: Well wait, I don't care about any this little bullshit.

1824
01:20:25,360 --> 01:20:27,200
Speaker 2: Let me see the DC one. Here we go, dummy.

1825
01:20:27,320 --> 01:20:29,400
Speaker 2: After I lost to you while you were on peds,

1826
01:20:29,439 --> 01:20:31,880
Speaker 2: mind you, I won back the two oh five title,

1827
01:20:31,960 --> 01:20:35,200
Speaker 2: then won the heavyweight title, then back surgery, then step

1828
01:20:35,200 --> 01:20:37,400
Speaker 2: A beat me two times. Sure sounds like quitting. Huh,

1829
01:20:37,520 --> 01:20:39,479
Speaker 2: I'm forty one years old. Let's see what you're doing

1830
01:20:39,479 --> 01:20:44,519
Speaker 2: a forty one U loser. I can't wait, all right?

1831
01:20:44,840 --> 01:20:48,360
Speaker 3: Uh yeah, the one we spent through was just uh

1832
01:20:48,040 --> 01:20:52,320
Speaker 3: uh just John responding to John Izzy stuff. So Luke,

1833
01:20:53,479 --> 01:20:56,800
Speaker 3: John's taking a few les here like like yes, like

1834
01:20:57,280 --> 01:20:59,840
Speaker 3: unforced errors they would call it in tennis here, Luke.

1835
01:20:59,760 --> 01:21:03,400
Speaker 2: Right, yeah, this is he's Chuck Knoblock. Remember Chuck Knoblock.

1836
01:21:04,000 --> 01:21:06,800
Speaker 2: He couldn't throw from a second to first and he

1837
01:21:06,840 --> 01:21:09,840
Speaker 2: was constantly throwing a shit into the stands. Yes, that's him.

1838
01:21:09,880 --> 01:21:12,320
Speaker 2: He's like, you're fielding the ground ball. Okay, you got

1839
01:21:12,360 --> 01:21:13,920
Speaker 2: that part right, but then you got to throw it

1840
01:21:13,960 --> 01:21:17,400
Speaker 2: to first and you know you're having some issues there.

1841
01:21:17,400 --> 01:21:20,439
Speaker 2: I mean, listen, there are points to what he is making,

1842
01:21:20,680 --> 01:21:23,120
Speaker 2: but he just doesn't he just you know what I mean.

1843
01:21:23,400 --> 01:21:26,560
Speaker 2: There's a criticism somebody made of banks the art. You know,

1844
01:21:26,640 --> 01:21:28,800
Speaker 2: remember Banksy. The guys would have mysterious or maybe it's

1845
01:21:28,800 --> 01:21:30,880
Speaker 2: a girl who knows who does like the street art

1846
01:21:30,920 --> 01:21:32,880
Speaker 2: in various places, and then you know, it's all sort

1847
01:21:32,920 --> 01:21:34,760
Speaker 2: of a hush hush about who it is and it's

1848
01:21:34,800 --> 01:21:37,679
Speaker 2: protected identity and it's supposed to have this political messaging.

1849
01:21:37,760 --> 01:21:39,599
Speaker 2: But then there's an art critic who was talking about

1850
01:21:39,600 --> 01:21:41,880
Speaker 2: it once. It's in this famous movie called Exit through

1851
01:21:41,920 --> 01:21:44,320
Speaker 2: the Gift Shop, and he says the problem with Banks's

1852
01:21:44,400 --> 01:21:46,760
Speaker 2: art is that it's not subtle. It just bangs you

1853
01:21:46,800 --> 01:21:50,040
Speaker 2: over the head constantly with its message. That's what John

1854
01:21:50,120 --> 01:21:51,800
Speaker 2: is doing. It's like Banks the Art, where he's just

1855
01:21:51,840 --> 01:21:54,599
Speaker 2: fucking banging you over the head. He is right about

1856
01:21:54,640 --> 01:21:56,720
Speaker 2: many things that people don't want to give him credit for,

1857
01:21:56,720 --> 01:21:57,920
Speaker 2: but they don't want to give a credit for him

1858
01:21:57,920 --> 01:22:00,919
Speaker 2: because he's a polarizing figure. And and it's very difficult

1859
01:22:00,920 --> 01:22:03,720
Speaker 2: to accept the reality where the antidoping authorities who are

1860
01:22:03,720 --> 01:22:05,920
Speaker 2: supposed to be in control exonerate you in many ways.

1861
01:22:06,160 --> 01:22:08,120
Speaker 2: But you don't feel like, for whatever reason, I'm not

1862
01:22:08,120 --> 01:22:10,880
Speaker 2: saying you personally, but the proverbial you, you can't really

1863
01:22:10,880 --> 01:22:13,439
Speaker 2: square that with what you know your intuition might tell you.

1864
01:22:14,320 --> 01:22:16,040
Speaker 2: And you know, you're just sort of going on and

1865
01:22:16,080 --> 01:22:17,960
Speaker 2: on and on and on about it. So like, I

1866
01:22:17,960 --> 01:22:20,880
Speaker 2: think he's got points that are certainly worth consideration, but

1867
01:22:21,000 --> 01:22:24,360
Speaker 2: the method of it, fucking hell, let it go.

1868
01:22:24,800 --> 01:22:27,400
Speaker 4: Hey looks sure or false here and you're right, You're right.

1869
01:22:27,439 --> 01:22:30,280
Speaker 3: He kind of loses this just for getting engaged in

1870
01:22:30,320 --> 01:22:33,879
Speaker 3: all of these It's like, like, just do it already,

1871
01:22:33,960 --> 01:22:35,600
Speaker 3: Just fight is he or fight whoever you want it?

1872
01:22:35,640 --> 01:22:37,400
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, But I want to ask

1873
01:22:37,400 --> 01:22:38,720
Speaker 3: you a question that I got to answered the door

1874
01:22:38,800 --> 01:22:41,160
Speaker 3: really fast here, Luke, do you.

1875
01:22:41,200 --> 01:22:44,000
Speaker 4: Think I'm not asking for it? I don't think it'll happen.

1876
01:22:44,560 --> 01:22:47,080
Speaker 4: But Jones DC three and have you wait, it'd be

1877
01:22:47,120 --> 01:22:49,639
Speaker 4: a war, It'd be a banger. It'd be a fricking banger.

1878
01:22:49,680 --> 01:22:52,200
Speaker 2: Your thoughts, Luke, Yes, Well, you go and answer the

1879
01:22:52,240 --> 01:22:54,760
Speaker 2: door like it's super weirdo in your hotel room. How

1880
01:22:54,760 --> 01:22:56,720
Speaker 2: many times do you think he's defiled that room? By

1881
01:22:56,720 --> 01:22:59,200
Speaker 2: the way, everybody out there. I wish he had kept

1882
01:22:59,240 --> 01:23:00,920
Speaker 2: the microphone on him so it would have been like

1883
01:23:00,960 --> 01:23:03,519
Speaker 2: a naked gun scenario where you see him go to

1884
01:23:03,560 --> 01:23:05,400
Speaker 2: the urinal and he's pissing and farting and you can

1885
01:23:05,400 --> 01:23:06,960
Speaker 2: hear all of it. That would have been great. But

1886
01:23:07,040 --> 01:23:09,439
Speaker 2: to answer his question there now, I don't know how

1887
01:23:09,520 --> 01:23:12,320
Speaker 2: much appetite there is for it, even among the two competitors,

1888
01:23:13,000 --> 01:23:15,639
Speaker 2: And I don't really care. There's bigger fish to fry

1889
01:23:15,800 --> 01:23:20,080
Speaker 2: John Francis, John Stepe, John Izzy. A lot of different

1890
01:23:20,080 --> 01:23:22,920
Speaker 2: ways this could go, the John DC three thing. Has

1891
01:23:23,840 --> 01:23:26,080
Speaker 2: we're past that now? BC? All right? Who was that?

1892
01:23:26,560 --> 01:23:28,840
Speaker 4: Look? I passed my COVID. Sorry for the interruption. I

1893
01:23:29,360 --> 01:23:31,240
Speaker 4: went for I have Novid Now they said, I have

1894
01:23:31,240 --> 01:23:33,599
Speaker 4: a green band. I'm now free to roam the grounds

1895
01:23:33,600 --> 01:23:34,800
Speaker 4: of the Wildcard Gym.

1896
01:23:34,840 --> 01:23:36,760
Speaker 2: Thank you. Now you can go to Wildcard and go

1897
01:23:36,800 --> 01:23:37,519
Speaker 2: get COVID there.

1898
01:23:37,720 --> 01:23:40,400
Speaker 3: Yeah probably yeah yeah.

1899
01:23:40,439 --> 01:23:42,360
Speaker 2: So anyway, all right, what else we got for the segment?

1900
01:23:43,200 --> 01:23:45,559
Speaker 3: Henry so who knows back the cringe Master, Luke, He's

1901
01:23:45,600 --> 01:23:48,120
Speaker 3: ready to take on the world in a Twitter war,

1902
01:23:48,200 --> 01:23:52,040
Speaker 3: including his fellow bandam weights he left behind. Here's Volkanowski

1903
01:23:52,200 --> 01:23:56,400
Speaker 3: out striking Peter Yawn in a sparring video that somebody posted.

1904
01:23:56,640 --> 01:23:59,040
Speaker 3: So Hudo tagged it and said, these guys should just

1905
01:23:59,080 --> 01:24:00,320
Speaker 3: go on a date if you ask.

1906
01:24:00,360 --> 01:24:03,880
Speaker 2: Me, yes, yeah, dude, because being gay is dumb.

1907
01:24:04,000 --> 01:24:04,160
Speaker 5: Bro.

1908
01:24:05,240 --> 01:24:07,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, it was pretty crazy. Pretty good to see he's

1909
01:24:07,479 --> 01:24:08,320
Speaker 4: up to his old tricks.

1910
01:24:08,400 --> 01:24:08,599
Speaker 2: Luke.

1911
01:24:08,840 --> 01:24:13,160
Speaker 3: It's interesting something I asked something I asked uh Davison

1912
01:24:13,160 --> 01:24:16,920
Speaker 3: Figureedo yesterday about the whole idea of when Suhudo parachutes

1913
01:24:16,960 --> 01:24:20,080
Speaker 3: back in because it seems inevitable which super fight he's

1914
01:24:20,080 --> 01:24:20,720
Speaker 3: he going to go after?

1915
01:24:20,760 --> 01:24:23,439
Speaker 4: We know he wants Volkanowski. I don't think he ever

1916
01:24:23,479 --> 01:24:24,719
Speaker 4: cuts down to fly again.

1917
01:24:24,760 --> 01:24:26,599
Speaker 3: But do you think he's watching closely to see which

1918
01:24:26,600 --> 01:24:28,559
Speaker 3: one of these Bandon weights he can make a master

1919
01:24:28,640 --> 01:24:29,160
Speaker 3: fight against.

1920
01:24:29,600 --> 01:24:31,800
Speaker 2: Yeah. I do think there was a while though I

1921
01:24:31,840 --> 01:24:34,719
Speaker 2: thought he was like retired retired, but he is way

1922
01:24:34,760 --> 01:24:37,720
Speaker 2: too thirsty. No chance he's actually retired, which is great.

1923
01:24:37,720 --> 01:24:40,080
Speaker 2: I'd love to see him back. I think he is

1924
01:24:40,200 --> 01:24:42,240
Speaker 2: biding his time and he is waiting for one of

1925
01:24:42,280 --> 01:24:45,519
Speaker 2: these like No Bs opportunities where it's a fight people

1926
01:24:45,520 --> 01:24:48,800
Speaker 2: would get excited for. There's something on the line for him.

1927
01:24:48,840 --> 01:24:51,960
Speaker 2: From a historical perspective, he gets a big fat payday. Now.

1928
01:24:52,000 --> 01:24:54,559
Speaker 2: Maybe after that he calls it wits And I don't

1929
01:24:54,560 --> 01:24:56,080
Speaker 2: know if he'll get it because as we all know,

1930
01:24:56,680 --> 01:24:59,120
Speaker 2: UFC got burned by GSP so to speak, after the

1931
01:24:59,120 --> 01:25:01,439
Speaker 2: whole Michael Bisping where you just give the title back

1932
01:25:01,439 --> 01:25:05,160
Speaker 2: after one fight. But I do think he's keeping his

1933
01:25:05,360 --> 01:25:10,200
Speaker 2: options open. But you know, Luke Bader Ginsburg, the reigning

1934
01:25:11,120 --> 01:25:14,280
Speaker 2: justice here, in my opinion in the court, I'm gonna say,

1935
01:25:14,400 --> 01:25:17,160
Speaker 2: you know, suggesting that two guys go on a date,

1936
01:25:17,520 --> 01:25:20,880
Speaker 2: it's not an insult, bro, I know you think it is.

1937
01:25:20,960 --> 01:25:21,320
Speaker 2: It's not.

1938
01:25:22,880 --> 01:25:24,240
Speaker 4: Yeah, two men day all the time.

1939
01:25:24,240 --> 01:25:30,280
Speaker 3: It's yeah, yeah, it's Our documentary will show in explicit detail.

1940
01:25:30,720 --> 01:25:33,320
Speaker 3: Kamza Tremaia of his back, sending people the hell Luke

1941
01:25:33,360 --> 01:25:35,640
Speaker 3: on Twitter, just as he does inside the cage.

1942
01:25:35,400 --> 01:25:38,240
Speaker 4: This time taking aim at the two O nine bros.

1943
01:25:38,479 --> 01:25:42,080
Speaker 3: Here's a Kamza tweeting out Diaz brothers, we are coming

1944
01:25:42,120 --> 01:25:42,759
Speaker 3: for you.

1945
01:25:42,960 --> 01:25:46,439
Speaker 4: Where are you? And it's a picture of Kamza and

1946
01:25:46,479 --> 01:25:48,920
Speaker 4: his boys all wearing weed hats? Is that true? Is

1947
01:25:48,960 --> 01:25:49,920
Speaker 4: that what's going on here?

1948
01:25:50,439 --> 01:25:52,439
Speaker 2: Very funny? I guess if you're from chutch Neo.

1949
01:25:54,040 --> 01:25:56,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, all right, Hey, Kamza will handle the comedy from

1950
01:25:56,720 --> 01:25:57,320
Speaker 3: here on out.

1951
01:25:57,439 --> 01:25:58,320
Speaker 4: All right. Uh.

1952
01:25:58,439 --> 01:26:02,439
Speaker 3: Gilbert Burns is is back jumping in here. Luke Bader

1953
01:26:02,920 --> 01:26:07,240
Speaker 3: this week tweeting out split decision really holy shit, Wow,

1954
01:26:07,400 --> 01:26:10,559
Speaker 3: freaking judges, Luke. That seems to be in response to

1955
01:26:11,680 --> 01:26:13,840
Speaker 3: what the damn RDA fight?

1956
01:26:13,880 --> 01:26:14,200
Speaker 4: Correct?

1957
01:26:14,280 --> 01:26:17,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, it has to be. And I was with him,

1958
01:26:17,120 --> 01:26:17,479
Speaker 2: I was.

1959
01:26:17,520 --> 01:26:21,439
Speaker 3: Like, what against Paul Felder? Let's advance the slide here

1960
01:26:21,520 --> 01:26:26,280
Speaker 3: as we continue. Then Gilbert said, f these judges. I'm

1961
01:26:26,320 --> 01:26:29,080
Speaker 3: always looking for the finish, but sometimes it's hard. These

1962
01:26:29,160 --> 01:26:31,920
Speaker 3: judges are doing a terrible job. While please at Dana

1963
01:26:31,960 --> 01:26:35,519
Speaker 3: White at UFC or whoever can help, please, we cannot

1964
01:26:35,760 --> 01:26:38,920
Speaker 3: have our payments be decided one or two checks by

1965
01:26:38,960 --> 01:26:40,160
Speaker 3: these crazy judges.

1966
01:26:40,240 --> 01:26:44,040
Speaker 2: That's insane, right, that's not the Commission's fault.

1967
01:26:44,520 --> 01:26:45,160
Speaker 4: Not unfair.

1968
01:26:45,280 --> 01:26:51,120
Speaker 3: Continue UFC Vegas fourteen lessons Urda is a one fifty

1969
01:26:51,120 --> 01:26:54,080
Speaker 3: five top five, not one seventy. Felder is a warrior,

1970
01:26:54,320 --> 01:26:56,680
Speaker 3: and one judge is terrible at his job. This is

1971
01:26:56,720 --> 01:26:58,519
Speaker 3: all truth, right now? Where's the fight here?

1972
01:26:58,560 --> 01:27:00,559
Speaker 4: What is he saying? That's wrong? Got here?

1973
01:27:00,720 --> 01:27:01,679
Speaker 2: Who put this together?

1974
01:27:03,439 --> 01:27:06,040
Speaker 4: Now? He posts the scorecards? Who to fuk? Is that guy?

1975
01:27:06,080 --> 01:27:07,040
Speaker 4: He says? Chris Lee?

1976
01:27:07,120 --> 01:27:10,200
Speaker 2: The Joseph jokes, They just they just never go out

1977
01:27:10,240 --> 01:27:10,559
Speaker 2: of style.

1978
01:27:10,840 --> 01:27:14,439
Speaker 4: See, all right, keep it going? Here? Is there an ending?

1979
01:27:14,439 --> 01:27:14,599
Speaker 5: Here?

1980
01:27:14,640 --> 01:27:19,200
Speaker 4: Is there a happy ending? Here? Is this orchids of combat? Whoa? Whoa?

1981
01:27:19,240 --> 01:27:19,639
Speaker 4: All right?

1982
01:27:20,160 --> 01:27:23,679
Speaker 2: Uh oh no, Jay Wednesday is turning into a technical

1983
01:27:23,720 --> 01:27:26,280
Speaker 2: difficulties Wednesday.

1984
01:27:27,280 --> 01:27:27,559
Speaker 4: Hello?

1985
01:27:29,760 --> 01:27:33,479
Speaker 2: Those are all four tweets? Yeah right, really suitable material

1986
01:27:33,520 --> 01:27:34,160
Speaker 2: for this segment.

1987
01:27:34,200 --> 01:27:38,000
Speaker 3: But you know, look it was it was Gilbert Burns

1988
01:27:38,080 --> 01:27:39,679
Speaker 3: versus the judges in Nevada.

1989
01:27:39,720 --> 01:27:40,599
Speaker 4: Gilbert Burns wins.

1990
01:27:40,600 --> 01:27:44,200
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, but if the judges aren't on social media,

1991
01:27:44,720 --> 01:27:45,360
Speaker 2: does it count?

1992
01:27:45,840 --> 01:27:46,040
Speaker 4: Yeah?

1993
01:27:46,040 --> 01:27:48,040
Speaker 3: We were, we were, we were we were really trying

1994
01:27:48,040 --> 01:27:50,320
Speaker 3: to just make something happen there that wasn't there.

1995
01:27:50,360 --> 01:27:51,880
Speaker 4: All right, thank you, thank you.

1996
01:27:51,960 --> 01:27:53,000
Speaker 2: It's all I got, is that it?

1997
01:27:53,280 --> 01:27:53,920
Speaker 4: That's it, Luke.

1998
01:27:53,920 --> 01:27:56,360
Speaker 2: Okay, all right, well take us home with the fan art,

1999
01:27:56,400 --> 01:27:58,120
Speaker 2: good sir, alright e.

2000
01:27:58,240 --> 01:28:01,680
Speaker 3: Then it's time for fans submissions. Luke, this is the

2001
01:28:01,720 --> 01:28:05,240
Speaker 3: only segment each week. Well, our fans consent in their shit.

2002
01:28:05,760 --> 01:28:08,920
Speaker 3: Oh them dressed in our clothing, them doing shit, and

2003
01:28:08,960 --> 01:28:09,960
Speaker 3: them just being them.

2004
01:28:10,360 --> 01:28:13,880
Speaker 4: Luke, here's p. D. Maloney within Morning Combat playbill, the

2005
01:28:13,960 --> 01:28:18,759
Speaker 4: reviews are in. It says worse than those three needles?

2006
01:28:18,960 --> 01:28:23,160
Speaker 4: Who the fuck are these guys? UFC President Dana Way. Yeah, dude, if.

2007
01:28:23,080 --> 01:28:25,559
Speaker 2: He actually, if we actually had a play and he

2008
01:28:25,640 --> 01:28:27,720
Speaker 2: reviewed it, I would put that on the front of

2009
01:28:27,760 --> 01:28:28,400
Speaker 2: the playbill.

2010
01:28:28,680 --> 01:28:31,679
Speaker 4: Yes, yes, the playbill says the book of Morning Combat.

2011
01:28:31,720 --> 01:28:34,120
Speaker 4: It shows you and I in uh looks like we're

2012
01:28:34,160 --> 01:28:35,479
Speaker 4: dressed like the guy and falling down.

2013
01:28:36,120 --> 01:28:39,639
Speaker 2: And also it's a little nod there, Doug Stanhope theater.

2014
01:28:40,240 --> 01:28:41,519
Speaker 4: Oh oh hey, I like that?

2015
01:28:41,640 --> 01:28:44,240
Speaker 3: All right, all right, shout out to all Joe and

2016
01:28:44,280 --> 01:28:45,400
Speaker 3: his super friends.

2017
01:28:45,120 --> 01:28:47,559
Speaker 4: Right right, Luke, yep, that's right, all right.

2018
01:28:47,760 --> 01:28:51,520
Speaker 3: Hey, let's see what at Philly Underscore Dent has concocted.

2019
01:28:51,520 --> 01:28:54,000
Speaker 3: Remember that time you reacted live, Luke to the Canelo

2020
01:28:54,080 --> 01:28:55,759
Speaker 3: Alvarez news on our show.

2021
01:28:56,160 --> 01:28:58,120
Speaker 4: Get you a man that looks at you the way

2022
01:28:58,240 --> 01:28:58,959
Speaker 4: Luke looks.

2023
01:28:58,760 --> 01:29:01,600
Speaker 3: At the Canelo News. Look, I think you pumped an

2024
01:29:01,600 --> 01:29:03,400
Speaker 3: over ring there, Luke. I mean, look at that face.

2025
01:29:03,439 --> 01:29:04,360
Speaker 3: That's fantastic.

2026
01:29:04,439 --> 01:29:04,599
Speaker 4: Luke.

2027
01:29:04,640 --> 01:29:06,240
Speaker 2: You know, you know you know what that face is.

2028
01:29:06,320 --> 01:29:11,440
Speaker 2: It's a shameless face from a you know, a shameless

2029
01:29:11,520 --> 01:29:13,920
Speaker 2: careerist that I have been for the last twenty years.

2030
01:29:14,520 --> 01:29:17,120
Speaker 2: That was me thinking maybe he could end up on

2031
01:29:17,240 --> 01:29:19,760
Speaker 2: showtime and we could go cover it. And now he's

2032
01:29:19,800 --> 01:29:20,920
Speaker 2: back on freaking his own.

2033
01:29:21,560 --> 01:29:24,559
Speaker 4: Well there's still time, all right, Luke. We got another

2034
01:29:24,560 --> 01:29:30,400
Speaker 4: one here from Forrest KOs He submitted this Beavis and

2035
01:29:30,520 --> 01:29:34,120
Speaker 4: butt Heead reproduction of Morning Combat.

2036
01:29:35,000 --> 01:29:37,719
Speaker 2: I can't I can't read your shirt? What does it say?

2037
01:29:38,680 --> 01:29:42,679
Speaker 4: Yours? Says Phoner. Right, Yes, I'm gonna have to ask

2038
01:29:42,720 --> 01:29:44,400
Speaker 4: the crew. Can you can you guys zoom in on

2039
01:29:44,439 --> 01:29:47,600
Speaker 4: that or can you tell me what my shirt says?

2040
01:29:49,240 --> 01:29:52,240
Speaker 2: City Cox fantastic funny.

2041
01:29:52,240 --> 01:29:53,200
Speaker 4: That's pretty much us.

2042
01:29:53,240 --> 01:29:55,599
Speaker 3: Look, we are the Beavis and butt Heead of fight

2043
01:29:55,880 --> 01:29:58,400
Speaker 3: talk and digital podcasting.

2044
01:29:58,520 --> 01:30:00,240
Speaker 2: Do you know I asked a person who was thirty

2045
01:30:00,320 --> 01:30:02,200
Speaker 2: years old if they had heard of Beavis and Butthead

2046
01:30:02,240 --> 01:30:02,839
Speaker 2: and they hadn't.

2047
01:30:05,280 --> 01:30:08,479
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean there was a time, Luke, there was

2048
01:30:08,479 --> 01:30:10,040
Speaker 3: a time when they owned they owned the world.

2049
01:30:10,160 --> 01:30:12,240
Speaker 4: Okay, I saw the movie in the theater opening night.

2050
01:30:13,439 --> 01:30:15,920
Speaker 2: I bet you did. Okay, I bet you did.

2051
01:30:16,080 --> 01:30:19,120
Speaker 3: All right, Hey, Luke, let's bring on. Alex l has

2052
01:30:19,120 --> 01:30:23,080
Speaker 3: submitted his album Culver. This should be the freewheeling Bob Dylan.

2053
01:30:23,120 --> 01:30:26,479
Speaker 3: Instead it's the free will in Morning Combat. Luke playing

2054
01:30:26,520 --> 01:30:29,160
Speaker 3: the role of Bob Dylan, me playing the role of

2055
01:30:29,160 --> 01:30:30,960
Speaker 3: his former girlfriend Susie.

2056
01:30:31,280 --> 01:30:34,360
Speaker 4: Uh, that's too good down in Greenwich Village.

2057
01:30:34,439 --> 01:30:37,920
Speaker 3: A great album, by the way, Bob Dylan's second album

2058
01:30:37,960 --> 01:30:38,799
Speaker 3: in his great career.

2059
01:30:39,120 --> 01:30:40,880
Speaker 4: That's well done. Is they're writing on there?

2060
01:30:41,280 --> 01:30:41,439
Speaker 2: Oh?

2061
01:30:41,439 --> 01:30:42,360
Speaker 4: Those are just the name.

2062
01:30:42,240 --> 01:30:44,680
Speaker 2: Of the songs, all right, I can't read it.

2063
01:30:45,000 --> 01:30:47,160
Speaker 4: I don't know if there's more jokes, but that is hilarious.

2064
01:30:47,240 --> 01:30:49,160
Speaker 4: I would put that poster on my wall.

2065
01:30:49,400 --> 01:30:52,439
Speaker 3: Hey, Daniel S has a movie poster idea here, Luke

2066
01:30:52,479 --> 01:30:54,760
Speaker 3: for the whole co host wave of.

2067
01:30:58,120 --> 01:31:01,840
Speaker 2: They don't even understand how big de me Moore and

2068
01:31:01,960 --> 01:31:06,840
Speaker 2: Patrick fucking whatever his name was, bro Swazy, how big

2069
01:31:06,920 --> 01:31:10,160
Speaker 2: that was when that fucking movie came out.

2070
01:31:10,640 --> 01:31:12,800
Speaker 4: You can't if you're not watching this. It's the picture

2071
01:31:12,840 --> 01:31:16,040
Speaker 4: of the ghost photo doing the pottery wheel with me

2072
01:31:16,160 --> 01:31:19,800
Speaker 4: playing to me more Luke playing Patrick Swayze behind me.

2073
01:31:19,840 --> 01:31:21,840
Speaker 4: This is gott a little too close for comfit. H

2074
01:31:22,040 --> 01:31:22,640
Speaker 4: Danny m.

2075
01:31:22,720 --> 01:31:25,760
Speaker 3: Luke has a movie poster for the Last Stand to

2076
01:31:25,840 --> 01:31:26,320
Speaker 3: show us.

2077
01:31:28,600 --> 01:31:31,599
Speaker 4: Oh why I did not see this one ahead of time? Luke?

2078
01:31:31,680 --> 01:31:34,200
Speaker 4: Is that a giant penis? What is happening here? Luke?

2079
01:31:34,360 --> 01:31:37,920
Speaker 2: That? Or it's an unusual underwater creature. I don't understand

2080
01:31:37,920 --> 01:31:39,160
Speaker 2: this one. What is the Last Stand?

2081
01:31:39,600 --> 01:31:42,160
Speaker 4: I don't know either anyone, anyone on our team.

2082
01:31:42,200 --> 01:31:44,040
Speaker 2: I like how this guy just took a poster, was like,

2083
01:31:44,120 --> 01:31:46,680
Speaker 2: let's just put some dicks on it the day.

2084
01:31:47,080 --> 01:31:49,439
Speaker 3: It's probably a great joke that went over our head, Luke,

2085
01:31:49,520 --> 01:31:50,720
Speaker 3: it really did, all right.

2086
01:31:50,920 --> 01:31:53,880
Speaker 4: Jose A has set us up two of them.

2087
01:31:53,880 --> 01:31:58,320
Speaker 3: Here's the first one, big beij Campbell on the on

2088
01:31:58,439 --> 01:32:02,759
Speaker 3: the Brocklessner body and this plays in his other larger

2089
01:32:02,800 --> 01:32:04,519
Speaker 3: photo of cool hand.

2090
01:32:04,640 --> 01:32:09,400
Speaker 2: Luke. Oh, snap, well it's got BBC on it too.

2091
01:32:09,439 --> 01:32:10,040
Speaker 2: Even better.

2092
01:32:10,400 --> 01:32:14,560
Speaker 4: Yes, yes, yes, I'm kill Glassy.

2093
01:32:14,320 --> 01:32:17,040
Speaker 2: And I'm carrying the picture of you.

2094
01:32:17,760 --> 01:32:20,960
Speaker 4: Yes, yes, I guess so have you ever seen Cool Hand, Luke,

2095
01:32:22,120 --> 01:32:22,519
Speaker 4: I have not.

2096
01:32:22,760 --> 01:32:25,920
Speaker 2: No, it might be the sweatiest movie of all time.

2097
01:32:26,000 --> 01:32:30,719
Speaker 3: Sweatier than Broke Back Much I never saw, but either

2098
01:32:30,800 --> 01:32:33,679
Speaker 3: of them, Luke, Hey, Dan p has submitted this one

2099
01:32:33,720 --> 01:32:35,840
Speaker 3: to us, and it may be our new wipe for

2100
01:32:36,000 --> 01:32:36,519
Speaker 3: dead Wrong.

2101
01:32:36,680 --> 01:32:38,960
Speaker 4: Check out the theme song and the wipe here, Luke.

2102
01:32:51,760 --> 01:32:52,479
Speaker 2: No, it won't be.

2103
01:32:56,120 --> 01:32:58,599
Speaker 4: It was very uh to the tune of Wayne's World,

2104
01:32:58,680 --> 01:32:59,920
Speaker 4: I think is where he was going with.

2105
01:33:01,000 --> 01:33:02,719
Speaker 2: Wayne's Well, Wayne's World excellent.

2106
01:33:02,800 --> 01:33:07,120
Speaker 4: Yea been wrong, your stupid mother fl dead wrong? All right?

2107
01:33:07,160 --> 01:33:11,920
Speaker 2: I was thinking more like the Biggie eminem crossover Bump Bump,

2108
01:33:12,560 --> 01:33:14,200
Speaker 2: don't no.

2109
01:33:14,920 --> 01:33:17,840
Speaker 3: Todd m has a picture of you and I playing racquetball,

2110
01:33:17,960 --> 01:33:20,679
Speaker 3: Lucas to summon your high school sports days.

2111
01:33:20,439 --> 01:33:21,080
Speaker 2: Of little.

2112
01:33:23,800 --> 01:33:26,000
Speaker 4: Morning racket Look that kind of looks like you on

2113
01:33:26,040 --> 01:33:27,920
Speaker 4: the right. It kind of does, right, you know what?

2114
01:33:28,240 --> 01:33:31,120
Speaker 2: It looks like both of us in many ways. Pathetic

2115
01:33:31,560 --> 01:33:36,120
Speaker 2: certainly is the one overarching theme here that is hysterical.

2116
01:33:36,479 --> 01:33:40,040
Speaker 3: Look, what's the difference between between squash and racketball? Is

2117
01:33:40,040 --> 01:33:42,439
Speaker 3: it just your your bank account and your parents that

2118
01:33:42,560 --> 01:33:45,439
Speaker 3: if you're you're rich, you play squash.

2119
01:33:44,920 --> 01:33:46,639
Speaker 2: A little bit. It's a little more to it than that.

2120
01:33:46,800 --> 01:33:51,439
Speaker 2: But I'll say this racketball is closer to tennis than

2121
01:33:51,439 --> 01:33:55,439
Speaker 2: it is squash back significantly so interesting.

2122
01:33:55,600 --> 01:33:59,639
Speaker 3: Okay, okay, uh Luke, Scott m Rizzo, he's back at it. Brother,

2123
01:33:59,680 --> 01:34:03,200
Speaker 3: he's got an m K Tip Brothers poster for us.

2124
01:34:03,240 --> 01:34:06,040
Speaker 4: Oh my god, the.

2125
01:34:07,840 --> 01:34:12,360
Speaker 2: Dude, My listen, my photoshop is pathetic. I mean, my

2126
01:34:12,400 --> 01:34:14,479
Speaker 2: face looks like the size of the moon. When what

2127
01:34:14,520 --> 01:34:17,240
Speaker 2: the fuck are we doing? Yours, on the other hand,

2128
01:34:17,520 --> 01:34:18,920
Speaker 2: is amazing.

2129
01:34:19,600 --> 01:34:22,120
Speaker 4: Weird and fake. Yours is actually perfect, Luke, I could see.

2130
01:34:22,280 --> 01:34:25,439
Speaker 2: I like your dainty Donald Trump hands.

2131
01:34:28,080 --> 01:34:29,719
Speaker 4: All right, hey, I think there's a lot of people

2132
01:34:29,720 --> 01:34:32,000
Speaker 4: Scott Rizzo included, who are trying to come at web

2133
01:34:32,080 --> 01:34:34,120
Speaker 4: scream where's he Ben, Luke, I don't know.

2134
01:34:34,720 --> 01:34:38,679
Speaker 3: It'llly maybe all right, let's go on to it wouldn't

2135
01:34:38,680 --> 01:34:42,080
Speaker 3: be a fan submission, Luke, if we didn't get our guy. Dickles,

2136
01:34:42,120 --> 01:34:45,360
Speaker 3: that's the guy who's really trying. He's got us these three.

2137
01:34:45,400 --> 01:34:46,360
Speaker 3: Here's the first one.

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Speaker 4: Ketchup to my burger, Luke, he's got us set the

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01:34:51,240 --> 01:34:56,920
Speaker 4: pottery wheel again, only instead of clay, that's ketchup all

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Speaker 4: over our arms with a quote.

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Speaker 2: Dude, This is un comfortable.

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Speaker 4: Whoa bro, I'm the ketchup in this burger. The difference

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01:35:06,280 --> 01:35:09,520
Speaker 4: between this quasi homo one is I'm on the outside.

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Speaker 4: I'm the backside of this.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. But then the clay has been made red and

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01:35:15,600 --> 01:35:18,559
Speaker 2: it looks like I'm having my period or something. It's

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01:35:18,600 --> 01:35:22,519
Speaker 2: just really all wrong. It's disturbing, all right.

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Speaker 4: Dickolls has hit us with a Luke's homeless gym concoction. Here, Luke,

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Speaker 4: drifters and lifters.

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Speaker 2: Oh dude, that is the.

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01:35:36,760 --> 01:35:41,080
Speaker 4: Ship get games or pound grains? Is the sweats?

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01:35:41,640 --> 01:35:46,480
Speaker 2: Whoa dude? That is the ship. That is amazing.

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01:35:46,600 --> 01:35:48,439
Speaker 4: That's a reality show waiting to break out.

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01:35:48,520 --> 01:35:51,960
Speaker 3: You are getting some homeless people in shape, Luke, you

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01:35:52,000 --> 01:35:52,720
Speaker 3: know getting.

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01:35:52,439 --> 01:35:56,000
Speaker 2: Them some man. You gotta be kidding me. That is

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01:35:56,160 --> 01:35:57,960
Speaker 2: too good to wait.

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Speaker 3: I'm being told that the African American guy has what

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Speaker 3: in his hand? Geth oh, He's got Jay's notes in

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Speaker 3: his hand right there?

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Speaker 4: All right, Luke. Our final one also comes from dick Oles.

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Speaker 4: This is a three pack.

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01:36:12,040 --> 01:36:15,719
Speaker 3: He's got a potential cover for this MTA documentary coming

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Speaker 3: out on Thursday.

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Speaker 2: Donk youmentary, What does it say on the thing that's

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01:36:20,760 --> 01:36:22,360
Speaker 2: getting knocked out of the donkey's mouth.

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01:36:23,840 --> 01:36:26,840
Speaker 3: I think it says morning combat and like a fight

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Speaker 3: club type soap type thing.

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Speaker 4: I'm not sure.

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Speaker 2: By the way, I guess I didn't realize this soldier

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Speaker 2: boy has a Soldier Boy has a song called donk.

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01:36:35,800 --> 01:36:36,439
Speaker 2: I didn't know that.

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Speaker 4: I didn't either.

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Speaker 3: I'm being told that's a ticket. It's a morning combat

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Speaker 3: movie ticket for our film Luke, which I believe is

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Speaker 3: a donumentary if I'm correct.

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Speaker 4: From the folks at schil Malcho, very well done this

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Speaker 4: this documentary. Oh it is a doncumentary. Thank you, so yes,

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Speaker 4: this is coming out Thursday. Guys. It just may change

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Speaker 4: your lives.

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Speaker 3: It's a peek inside under the hood of what the

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Speaker 3: relationships are really like.

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Speaker 4: So many thanks for the fans admissions. We do this documentary.

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Speaker 4: We get weird because of you. Okay, thank you, thank you.

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Speaker 2: All right, very good. Let's plug that tomorrow. The dongumentary

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Speaker 2: will be out live chat tomorrow at three pm, so

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Speaker 2: be on the lookout for that as well. BC. What

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Speaker 2: time does your show go live on NBC Sports Tomorrow nine.

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Speaker 4: Pm Eastern Tomorrow night, NBC Sports.

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Speaker 3: It's a two hour broadcast live from the parking lot

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01:37:27,680 --> 01:37:30,080
Speaker 3: of Freddie Roach's Wildcard gym here in Hollywood, So it

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Speaker 3: should be good match making, should be a fun broadcast.

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Speaker 3: Sean Porter, Bob Popa Kern Battier and myself looking forward

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Speaker 3: to it, Luke. Also a reminder for our homework for Friday,

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Speaker 3: we'll be listening to the twenty thirteen roots rock Americana

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Speaker 3: power album called Southeastern by Jason Iswell.

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Speaker 4: That's isb e lll the last name.

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Speaker 3: You can find it for free on YouTube if you

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Speaker 3: don't have access to it anywhere else, but be sure

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Speaker 3: to check that out, Luke.

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Speaker 2: Anything else so you can watch Belltour two fifty three,

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01:38:02,880 --> 01:38:04,880
Speaker 2: and then you can switch over and you can watch

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01:38:05,000 --> 01:38:07,640
Speaker 2: BC and everyone else on NBC Sports, so you can

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01:38:07,680 --> 01:38:09,680
Speaker 2: get your box, you can get your MMA, and it

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01:38:09,720 --> 01:38:12,000
Speaker 2: won't really overlap. Everyone will get a chance to get

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01:38:12,040 --> 01:38:14,639
Speaker 2: a turner. That should be very, very fun and congratulations, dude.

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01:38:14,640 --> 01:38:16,200
Speaker 2: I'm even working hard for that one. So I look

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Speaker 2: forward to watching you. And by that I mean dvring

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Speaker 2: you and just pretending I watched it later. But I

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01:38:20,960 --> 01:38:22,600
Speaker 2: will at least DVR it for you.

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Speaker 4: I promise, Thank you, look, thank you.

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Speaker 3: Okay, I got I gotta pack it of this waiting

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01:38:26,680 --> 01:38:27,679
Speaker 3: for you for your friendship.

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01:38:27,680 --> 01:38:29,360
Speaker 2: Thank you. I'm sure when you thought you're like, you

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01:38:29,439 --> 01:38:31,120
Speaker 2: know what at forty one forty two, I want to

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01:38:31,160 --> 01:38:33,920
Speaker 2: be in parking lots calling fights. You made it, BC,

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01:38:34,400 --> 01:38:35,200
Speaker 2: you made it.

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Speaker 4: Look the Actually it's it's gonna be cool. There's gonna

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Speaker 4: be the good year blump there, Luke, It's gonna be great,

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01:38:40,160 --> 01:38:41,599
Speaker 4: all right, right on a real bad sea.

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Speaker 2: I'm actually thrilling for you and I will be watching

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Speaker 2: for sure. Okay, So with that in mind, thumbs up

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Speaker 2: on the video subscribe. By the way, Speaking of the channel,

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Speaker 2: as BC indicated, not one, not two, not three, four

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Speaker 2: interviews he pumped out yesterday, lots of content coming your

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Speaker 2: way for the rest of the week, the dongumentary tomorrow,

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01:38:59,200 --> 01:39:01,960
Speaker 2: the live chat and then Friday show. We're gonna get

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01:39:02,000 --> 01:39:03,840
Speaker 2: you ready for this pay per view that is still

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01:39:03,840 --> 01:39:05,640
Speaker 2: pretty good kind of sort of, but we're gonna get

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01:39:05,640 --> 01:39:07,880
Speaker 2: you ready for it just the same. So we are

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Speaker 2: not pumping the brakes at all this week. If you

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Speaker 2: want to get at us on social media, you certainly

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01:39:13,160 --> 01:39:16,800
Speaker 2: can Morning Combat on Twitter, Morning Combat on Insta, and

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01:39:16,800 --> 01:39:20,080
Speaker 2: then Morningcombat YouTube dot Com, slash morning Combat and then there.

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01:39:20,120 --> 01:39:22,200
Speaker 2: Brian and I are on social. You can see it

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01:39:22,200 --> 01:39:25,800
Speaker 2: there as well. Any fan submissions, anything for dead wrong

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01:39:25,880 --> 01:39:30,200
Speaker 2: for Friday Morning Coombat at gmail dot com is the

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Speaker 2: place to get that in. Don't forget about that. Okay, morning,

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01:39:32,680 --> 01:39:34,840
Speaker 2: Come bat gmail dot com and let's see. If you

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Speaker 2: want to try show Time. You certainly can Showtime dot

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Speaker 2: com thirty day free trial. You'll like it, you can

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01:39:39,200 --> 01:39:41,160
Speaker 2: keep it. If not, you can go pound Sand And then,

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01:39:41,280 --> 01:39:45,679
Speaker 2: last but not least, Merch Christmas is coming up. Black Friday,

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01:39:46,080 --> 01:39:49,280
Speaker 2: Cyber Monday not too far from now, Store dot Show

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Speaker 2: dot White Wednesday.

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Speaker 4: All those days right, ron.

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Speaker 2: BC, enjoy those disgusting eggs. Look forward to watching you

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01:39:56,560 --> 01:40:00,400
Speaker 2: on the old TV tomorrow. Be safe, and for everyone

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01:40:00,400 --> 01:40:03,080
Speaker 2: who watched today, thank you so much. Until next time,

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Speaker 2: may all of your gains be loyal