1 00:00:02,520 --> 00:00:09,760 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Audio Studios, podcasts, radio news, Accenture and Anthropic in 2 00:00:09,800 --> 00:00:13,240 Speaker 1: get a multi year partnership deal to drive enterprise AI adoption. 3 00:00:13,320 --> 00:00:16,120 Speaker 1: The two they're going to form the Accentric Anthropic Business 4 00:00:16,160 --> 00:00:20,000 Speaker 1: Group with the goal of training around thirty thousand professionals 5 00:00:20,000 --> 00:00:25,320 Speaker 1: in leveraging AI as a catalyst for reinvention pleases say. 6 00:00:25,440 --> 00:00:28,560 Speaker 1: Joining us right now is the CEO of accent Julie 7 00:00:28,600 --> 00:00:33,040 Speaker 1: Sweet and the CEO of Anthropic, Dario Amaday. Great to 8 00:00:33,040 --> 00:00:35,840 Speaker 1: have both of you here, and Julie, I'll start with you, 9 00:00:36,440 --> 00:00:38,800 Speaker 1: mainly because when I saw this, I thought, Wow, this 10 00:00:38,840 --> 00:00:40,720 Speaker 1: is me Tina. I also thought about the fact that 11 00:00:40,800 --> 00:00:43,519 Speaker 1: just last week you announced a further expansion of your 12 00:00:43,560 --> 00:00:46,360 Speaker 1: partnership with open AI. Talk a little bit about how 13 00:00:46,400 --> 00:00:50,280 Speaker 1: these two coexist under the Eccentri umbrella. 14 00:00:50,479 --> 00:00:53,960 Speaker 2: Sure, so all of our partnerships start with client demand. 15 00:00:54,080 --> 00:00:57,520 Speaker 2: So the partnerships are responding to client demand, and we 16 00:00:57,560 --> 00:01:00,640 Speaker 2: have a long history our clients expect us to be 17 00:01:00,640 --> 00:01:04,200 Speaker 2: the number one partner for every technology company that matters 18 00:01:04,720 --> 00:01:09,000 Speaker 2: and Anthropic this partnership that we've announced today is very 19 00:01:09,040 --> 00:01:12,200 Speaker 2: important to our clients, and so that's the role we play, 20 00:01:12,800 --> 00:01:15,120 Speaker 2: is to make sure that we can take the world's 21 00:01:15,160 --> 00:01:19,880 Speaker 2: best technology and mix it up with industry knowledge, with 22 00:01:20,000 --> 00:01:22,959 Speaker 2: process and how to actually use it in the enterprise 23 00:01:23,480 --> 00:01:25,960 Speaker 2: to get to an outcome. And as you know, today 24 00:01:26,040 --> 00:01:28,880 Speaker 2: it's all about when is AI showing up in the 25 00:01:28,920 --> 00:01:30,760 Speaker 2: P and L. We call that the P and L pivot, 26 00:01:31,120 --> 00:01:34,800 Speaker 2: and this partnership will help our clients make that pivot. 27 00:01:35,240 --> 00:01:37,039 Speaker 1: Well, I am curious, then, Daria, if you can kind 28 00:01:37,040 --> 00:01:40,360 Speaker 1: of talk about specifically the Anthropic tools, the idea here 29 00:01:40,920 --> 00:01:44,720 Speaker 1: of standardizing how some of these AI agents actually connect 30 00:01:44,720 --> 00:01:48,360 Speaker 1: to the various tentacles, if you will, the various applications 31 00:01:48,360 --> 00:01:48,760 Speaker 1: out there. 32 00:01:51,120 --> 00:01:54,680 Speaker 3: Yes, so we are. I think we're going to start 33 00:01:54,720 --> 00:01:57,400 Speaker 3: on the coding side. Some of the technologies that have 34 00:01:57,440 --> 00:02:01,160 Speaker 3: been adopted quickly have been things like cloud code, the 35 00:02:02,480 --> 00:02:05,040 Speaker 3: tool we produce to help with development, and we've seen 36 00:02:05,120 --> 00:02:07,720 Speaker 3: very large productivity gains with that. But we want to 37 00:02:07,760 --> 00:02:11,000 Speaker 3: go beyond that to more general use of our tool, Claud, 38 00:02:11,080 --> 00:02:13,160 Speaker 3: and we want to drive usage of the tool across 39 00:02:13,200 --> 00:02:18,720 Speaker 3: areas like healthcare, life sciences, financial services, public sector, you know, 40 00:02:18,760 --> 00:02:21,160 Speaker 3: things that Anthropic has worked with for a long time. 41 00:02:21,440 --> 00:02:21,640 Speaker 4: You know. 42 00:02:21,720 --> 00:02:25,800 Speaker 3: More broadly, I would say that enterprises have been experimenting 43 00:02:25,840 --> 00:02:29,079 Speaker 3: with AI for quite a while. But you know, I 44 00:02:29,120 --> 00:02:31,440 Speaker 3: think really, you know, as Julie said, with the P 45 00:02:31,520 --> 00:02:33,960 Speaker 3: and L, the important thing is really to deploy these 46 00:02:34,000 --> 00:02:37,639 Speaker 3: at scale and you know, to actually drive ROI for them, 47 00:02:37,919 --> 00:02:39,679 Speaker 3: and so that's what we're trying to do. That's why 48 00:02:39,720 --> 00:02:42,520 Speaker 3: we have this whole business center. That's why we're training 49 00:02:42,560 --> 00:02:45,760 Speaker 3: thirty thousand people to use CLAUD and we're going to 50 00:02:45,840 --> 00:02:49,919 Speaker 3: work with CIOs of companies to track how they're using 51 00:02:50,520 --> 00:02:54,400 Speaker 3: CLAUD through Accenture, how they're deploying the tools, what returns 52 00:02:54,440 --> 00:02:56,840 Speaker 3: they're getting, what returns they're getting from the tools. So 53 00:02:57,080 --> 00:02:59,200 Speaker 3: we're going to work with Accenture to manage the whole 54 00:02:59,200 --> 00:03:03,919 Speaker 3: life cycle. We think these tools are our revolutionary We've 55 00:03:03,919 --> 00:03:06,560 Speaker 3: seen that from their use inside and Thropic and many 56 00:03:06,720 --> 00:03:10,440 Speaker 3: enterprises already. But the thing we're most excited for is 57 00:03:10,760 --> 00:03:13,680 Speaker 3: to make sure that you know, we can really spread 58 00:03:13,680 --> 00:03:16,600 Speaker 3: these across the enterprise world. And you know, that's where 59 00:03:16,720 --> 00:03:19,040 Speaker 3: Accenture comes in and can really drive these things at 60 00:03:19,040 --> 00:03:20,560 Speaker 3: a scale that hasn't been done before. 61 00:03:20,800 --> 00:03:23,560 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's interesting, Dario. I mean, you think about AI, 62 00:03:23,800 --> 00:03:29,600 Speaker 4: some of these lms, they're very popular with consumers, individuals, 63 00:03:29,960 --> 00:03:32,600 Speaker 4: they've been well socialized, but when it comes to enterprises, 64 00:03:32,600 --> 00:03:35,160 Speaker 4: when it comes to that business customer. You touched on 65 00:03:35,520 --> 00:03:39,080 Speaker 4: maybe some of the skepticisms that CIOs have in really 66 00:03:39,160 --> 00:03:42,480 Speaker 4: adopting AI. As you look into twenty twenty six, this 67 00:03:42,560 --> 00:03:45,800 Speaker 4: deal with accenture, how much further does it put you 68 00:03:45,840 --> 00:03:48,520 Speaker 4: when it comes to sort of unlocking the enterprise world 69 00:03:48,600 --> 00:03:51,320 Speaker 4: and what's the goal when it comes to twenty twenty six. 70 00:03:52,520 --> 00:03:57,040 Speaker 3: Yes, so you know, we've already seen substantial enterprise adoption 71 00:03:57,200 --> 00:04:01,800 Speaker 3: this year andthropics revenue went from one billion annualized rate 72 00:04:01,840 --> 00:04:04,080 Speaker 3: at the beginning of the year to ten billion annualized 73 00:04:04,160 --> 00:04:06,480 Speaker 3: rate at the end of the year. So we've already 74 00:04:06,480 --> 00:04:09,240 Speaker 3: seen a lot of adoption, and you know, eighty eighty 75 00:04:09,240 --> 00:04:12,360 Speaker 3: percent of that revenues enterprise and within that particularly with 76 00:04:12,440 --> 00:04:15,240 Speaker 3: things like coding, but in other areas we're starting to 77 00:04:15,240 --> 00:04:18,560 Speaker 3: see very strong ROI. But the scale of this is 78 00:04:18,600 --> 00:04:21,240 Speaker 3: so large, right, the scale of what needs to be done, right, 79 00:04:21,279 --> 00:04:25,360 Speaker 3: there's hundreds of billions, maybe trillions of you know, kind 80 00:04:25,360 --> 00:04:29,920 Speaker 3: of enterprise enterprise productivity out there, value to be created, 81 00:04:29,960 --> 00:04:32,480 Speaker 3: and so that while while it has been growing quickly 82 00:04:32,480 --> 00:04:35,440 Speaker 3: and we've been overcoming that skepticism. I think what needs 83 00:04:35,480 --> 00:04:38,080 Speaker 3: to be done has you know, is enormous in scale 84 00:04:38,320 --> 00:04:40,360 Speaker 3: compared to what to what has been done, what has 85 00:04:40,400 --> 00:04:43,400 Speaker 3: been done already. And that's why partnerships with Accenture are 86 00:04:43,440 --> 00:04:45,920 Speaker 3: so important that you know, we really need to get 87 00:04:45,960 --> 00:04:48,520 Speaker 3: to a scale that it's it's you know, a young 88 00:04:48,560 --> 00:04:51,240 Speaker 3: company needs to needs to partner with someone who really 89 00:04:51,320 --> 00:04:52,640 Speaker 3: understands the enterprise world. 90 00:04:53,000 --> 00:04:54,800 Speaker 4: Angelie, you made the point that you know, one of 91 00:04:54,800 --> 00:04:56,560 Speaker 4: the big questions here is when we're going to see 92 00:04:56,600 --> 00:04:59,279 Speaker 4: AI show up in the p and L. There's also 93 00:04:59,320 --> 00:05:01,520 Speaker 4: the big question of one you see AI really show 94 00:05:01,600 --> 00:05:04,200 Speaker 4: up in the job market, And I'm curious, you know, 95 00:05:04,240 --> 00:05:07,880 Speaker 4: whether you're seeing AI slow down hiring for entry level jobs. 96 00:05:07,920 --> 00:05:12,360 Speaker 4: Over at Eccentsure, for example, we are. 97 00:05:12,240 --> 00:05:17,599 Speaker 2: Really focused on creating sustainable entry level jobs with AI, 98 00:05:18,040 --> 00:05:21,760 Speaker 2: and so our pivot in the talent side is how 99 00:05:21,760 --> 00:05:26,920 Speaker 2: do we now take our entry level people, we call 100 00:05:26,920 --> 00:05:29,919 Speaker 2: them reinventors, coming in and give them the skill so 101 00:05:29,960 --> 00:05:32,359 Speaker 2: they can operate at a higher level. So, for example, 102 00:05:32,560 --> 00:05:34,360 Speaker 2: if you can now do things that may be would 103 00:05:34,400 --> 00:05:37,640 Speaker 2: have taken you two years, then you're losing two years 104 00:05:37,680 --> 00:05:41,200 Speaker 2: of experience at clients. So how do we now we're 105 00:05:41,240 --> 00:05:44,960 Speaker 2: now introducing communication training to help close that gap, and 106 00:05:45,000 --> 00:05:48,480 Speaker 2: so we believe it's way too early to call the 107 00:05:48,640 --> 00:05:52,680 Speaker 2: end of entry level jobs versus the responsibility that we 108 00:05:52,760 --> 00:05:56,279 Speaker 2: have as a company and as companies across the globe 109 00:05:56,800 --> 00:05:59,599 Speaker 2: to change the way that we train and then we 110 00:05:59,640 --> 00:06:03,520 Speaker 2: think about jobs so that we have sustainable entry level jobs. 111 00:06:03,920 --> 00:06:06,159 Speaker 1: I am curious, so, Julie, as you sort of prep 112 00:06:06,320 --> 00:06:12,000 Speaker 1: your own folks internally for not only using the tools yourselves, 113 00:06:12,000 --> 00:06:14,920 Speaker 1: but obviously the idea that these tools ultimately will then 114 00:06:15,000 --> 00:06:19,360 Speaker 1: somehow be used by clients. What has been the uptake internally? 115 00:06:19,720 --> 00:06:22,200 Speaker 1: How much retraining have you had to do for your 116 00:06:22,200 --> 00:06:22,800 Speaker 1: own folks. 117 00:06:24,680 --> 00:06:28,240 Speaker 2: Our training has been massive. It starts with back in 118 00:06:28,279 --> 00:06:32,760 Speaker 2: twenty nineteen we introduced classical AI training. So when Chatchipt 119 00:06:33,000 --> 00:06:35,919 Speaker 2: came on that we were already had five hundred thousand 120 00:06:35,920 --> 00:06:38,599 Speaker 2: people chained in the fundamentals of AI in addition to 121 00:06:38,640 --> 00:06:42,320 Speaker 2: the specialists we just kicked off our entire seven hundred 122 00:06:42,320 --> 00:06:47,000 Speaker 2: and fifty thousand or so reinventors agentic AI training. And 123 00:06:47,040 --> 00:06:50,080 Speaker 2: in fact, this partnership is all about tapping into the 124 00:06:50,240 --> 00:06:55,839 Speaker 2: talent advantage that accenture brings because you need great technology expertise, 125 00:06:56,160 --> 00:06:59,159 Speaker 2: you also need the industry expertise, like in banking, you 126 00:06:59,200 --> 00:07:01,560 Speaker 2: need to know your be able to know your customer. 127 00:07:01,839 --> 00:07:04,960 Speaker 2: And so we're training all of our people those who 128 00:07:05,120 --> 00:07:08,839 Speaker 2: understand industry and function and that's a big talent advantage. 129 00:07:08,960 --> 00:07:11,240 Speaker 1: So Dario, but this goes back to the idea kind 130 00:07:11,240 --> 00:07:13,320 Speaker 1: of of what you're contributing and the idea that a 131 00:07:13,320 --> 00:07:15,360 Speaker 1: lot of people have been looking for more of a 132 00:07:15,400 --> 00:07:18,280 Speaker 1: standardized model to be able to work off of, and 133 00:07:18,320 --> 00:07:21,520 Speaker 1: obviously anthropic at least the way as you guys promote yourselves, 134 00:07:21,600 --> 00:07:24,120 Speaker 1: the idea of open source, the idea of maybe a 135 00:07:24,120 --> 00:07:26,840 Speaker 1: little bit more transparency. There was a report today in 136 00:07:26,880 --> 00:07:29,680 Speaker 1: ther Information that you, along with a couple of others 137 00:07:30,360 --> 00:07:33,200 Speaker 1: including Google and open Ai for that matter, are going 138 00:07:33,280 --> 00:07:36,800 Speaker 1: to be part of this AI foundation that will seek 139 00:07:36,840 --> 00:07:39,600 Speaker 1: to create a more standardized system for some of this. 140 00:07:39,840 --> 00:07:41,200 Speaker 1: Can you talk a little bit about that. 141 00:07:42,320 --> 00:07:47,360 Speaker 3: Yes, So this is we're donating MCP, which is called 142 00:07:47,360 --> 00:07:50,880 Speaker 3: the Model Context Protocol, along with some other things to 143 00:07:51,560 --> 00:07:55,160 Speaker 3: a foundation. And what MCP is it's a tool that 144 00:07:56,560 --> 00:08:01,520 Speaker 3: kind of governs and standardizes how AI models intersect with data. 145 00:08:01,600 --> 00:08:03,000 Speaker 3: If you think about it, you can think of an 146 00:08:03,000 --> 00:08:05,480 Speaker 3: AI model as kind of as kind of the brain. Right, 147 00:08:05,600 --> 00:08:07,760 Speaker 3: you have a smart brain that knows a lot of things, 148 00:08:08,040 --> 00:08:11,280 Speaker 3: and when I bring that brain into an enterprise context, 149 00:08:11,320 --> 00:08:15,080 Speaker 3: there's all this kind of knowledge and tacit knowledge that 150 00:08:15,200 --> 00:08:17,800 Speaker 3: is present in the enterprise, and so bringing them together 151 00:08:17,920 --> 00:08:19,800 Speaker 3: is always a challenge. You know. The way I often 152 00:08:19,920 --> 00:08:21,840 Speaker 3: like to say it is, you know, suppose I took 153 00:08:21,920 --> 00:08:24,240 Speaker 3: some very smart person off the street and you know, 154 00:08:24,280 --> 00:08:26,640 Speaker 3: PLoP them into the middle of my enterprise, gave them 155 00:08:26,640 --> 00:08:29,640 Speaker 3: an executive role and say, okay, congratulations, you know you're 156 00:08:29,680 --> 00:08:32,400 Speaker 3: in You're in charge. You get to make all the decisions. Now, 157 00:08:32,600 --> 00:08:34,600 Speaker 3: as smart as that person is, they wouldn't, at least 158 00:08:34,679 --> 00:08:37,839 Speaker 3: not right away, make make make make make immediately good, 159 00:08:38,240 --> 00:08:41,720 Speaker 3: immediately good decisions. So there's this integration layer that's missing. 160 00:08:41,760 --> 00:08:43,720 Speaker 3: And you know, I think these tools are designed to 161 00:08:43,960 --> 00:08:46,920 Speaker 3: facilitate that integration layer and make it easier. And so 162 00:08:46,960 --> 00:08:49,640 Speaker 3: we're excited to provide these things to the world and 163 00:08:49,920 --> 00:08:51,680 Speaker 3: you know, kind of kind of make it easier to 164 00:08:51,720 --> 00:08:54,240 Speaker 3: facilitate access to the technology across the world. 165 00:08:54,559 --> 00:08:56,240 Speaker 4: And Dario, before we let the two of you go, 166 00:08:56,400 --> 00:08:58,600 Speaker 4: I have to ask, while we have you, there has 167 00:08:58,679 --> 00:09:01,480 Speaker 4: been reporting that you've in early talks for an IPO 168 00:09:01,640 --> 00:09:04,040 Speaker 4: as early as twenty twenty six. 169 00:09:04,120 --> 00:09:07,920 Speaker 3: Can you confirm that currently we are we are just 170 00:09:08,000 --> 00:09:11,840 Speaker 3: focused on growing our business and you know, growing, growing, 171 00:09:12,000 --> 00:09:15,439 Speaker 3: growing enterprise, growing enterprise revenue, as you can see in 172 00:09:15,480 --> 00:09:16,240 Speaker 3: this partnership. 173 00:09:16,360 --> 00:09:18,960 Speaker 1: All right, Well, obviously it's a great partnership, known Julie 174 00:09:18,960 --> 00:09:21,880 Speaker 1: for some time and certainly you picked a good partner there. 175 00:09:21,960 --> 00:09:25,360 Speaker 1: Adario Amide is the CEO of Anthropic Julia. Great to 176 00:09:25,360 --> 00:09:28,120 Speaker 1: see you once again, Julie Sweet the CEO over at 177 00:09:28,280 --> 00:09:28,720 Speaker 1: a centre