1 00:00:03,800 --> 00:00:07,040 Speaker 1: Now that all the preseasons a trading Hampson Bark, could 2 00:00:07,080 --> 00:00:12,880 Speaker 1: you talk about Tank Bigsby's play, especially his ball security, 3 00:00:13,360 --> 00:00:16,720 Speaker 1: which from what we saw in every instance, which perfect. 4 00:00:17,000 --> 00:00:19,639 Speaker 2: Yeah, he's done a good job. And Tank's a guy 5 00:00:19,680 --> 00:00:22,680 Speaker 2: that even last year, it's very very important to him. 6 00:00:22,960 --> 00:00:24,560 Speaker 2: I mean, there's not a lot of guys that care 7 00:00:24,600 --> 00:00:27,520 Speaker 2: more than Tank cares. And like we mentioned before, there 8 00:00:27,520 --> 00:00:30,160 Speaker 2: were kind of some unfortunate things that happened to him 9 00:00:30,280 --> 00:00:32,640 Speaker 2: early last year when he just got started as a rookie. 10 00:00:33,000 --> 00:00:35,680 Speaker 2: But you know, to watch him throughout the course of 11 00:00:35,760 --> 00:00:39,040 Speaker 2: last season as well, and then attack the off season program, 12 00:00:39,040 --> 00:00:41,760 Speaker 2: attack training camp. He's just continues to take the steps 13 00:00:41,800 --> 00:00:44,159 Speaker 2: that you hope to see from a young player, especially 14 00:00:44,240 --> 00:00:46,320 Speaker 2: somebody that we do believe we'll be able to count on. 15 00:00:47,200 --> 00:00:50,760 Speaker 2: And he's he's shown that he's earned that and we're 16 00:00:50,760 --> 00:00:52,200 Speaker 2: excited about what's ahead for Tank. 17 00:00:52,400 --> 00:00:55,840 Speaker 1: Has he got quicker or is he that much more 18 00:00:56,760 --> 00:01:03,080 Speaker 1: steeped in the offense that he's making decisive decisions? 19 00:01:03,280 --> 00:01:05,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that's part of it. I think just 20 00:01:06,000 --> 00:01:09,160 Speaker 2: understanding what we're asking within each concept, understand just time 21 00:01:09,200 --> 00:01:11,759 Speaker 2: on task. You know, two years of running a lot 22 00:01:11,800 --> 00:01:15,039 Speaker 2: of these concepts, seeing what the what the blocks look like, 23 00:01:15,120 --> 00:01:18,280 Speaker 2: what the timing looks like. He's done a good job 24 00:01:18,400 --> 00:01:20,800 Speaker 2: just taking coaching, you know, Coach Mack has done a 25 00:01:20,840 --> 00:01:23,280 Speaker 2: great job just being very detailed, very thorough with those 26 00:01:23,319 --> 00:01:25,520 Speaker 2: guys or what we're looking for, what the expectation is, 27 00:01:25,840 --> 00:01:29,080 Speaker 2: what your footwork is, and then holding them accountable with 28 00:01:29,080 --> 00:01:32,560 Speaker 2: ball security as well. Going back a couple of weeks 29 00:01:32,640 --> 00:01:35,280 Speaker 2: to the campus double whatever you want to call it 30 00:01:35,319 --> 00:01:35,640 Speaker 2: with a. 31 00:01:36,160 --> 00:01:40,920 Speaker 3: Buster person going way back where he's surprised at Christian's 32 00:01:41,000 --> 00:01:44,839 Speaker 3: reaction and how he's kind of stepped up immediately. 33 00:01:45,240 --> 00:01:48,640 Speaker 2: No, I don't think so. Well, I think just that's 34 00:01:48,640 --> 00:01:51,920 Speaker 2: who Christian is. I mean, and it was more I 35 00:01:51,920 --> 00:01:54,200 Speaker 2: don't I don't think that was the level of physicality 36 00:01:54,200 --> 00:01:56,680 Speaker 2: we're looking for in that instance, with just jags on 37 00:01:56,760 --> 00:01:59,000 Speaker 2: jags basically is how it's going. I think Christian as 38 00:01:59,000 --> 00:02:01,800 Speaker 2: a veteran understand that. Honestly. I know a lot of 39 00:02:01,840 --> 00:02:03,920 Speaker 2: people didn't see it, so they wouldn't know. But that 40 00:02:04,120 --> 00:02:06,720 Speaker 2: was as good of a camp scuffle as you can have. 41 00:02:06,920 --> 00:02:09,720 Speaker 2: I mean, it was Christian came up push somebody in 42 00:02:09,720 --> 00:02:12,200 Speaker 2: the back, and from there it was more just people 43 00:02:12,200 --> 00:02:14,320 Speaker 2: pulling people out of a pile. There was no there 44 00:02:14,320 --> 00:02:16,919 Speaker 2: were no cheap shots, there was nothing out of the ordinary. 45 00:02:16,919 --> 00:02:19,200 Speaker 2: From that standpoint, nobody did anything dirty. It was more 46 00:02:20,639 --> 00:02:22,560 Speaker 2: I think a message was kind of sent of that's 47 00:02:22,600 --> 00:02:24,880 Speaker 2: not what we do. And then from there it was 48 00:02:24,880 --> 00:02:29,440 Speaker 2: a very clean scuffle, as you put it. So I thought, 49 00:02:29,919 --> 00:02:32,600 Speaker 2: you know, I applauded Christian for Christian's leadership in that 50 00:02:32,639 --> 00:02:35,079 Speaker 2: moment and the coolest thing. And I told the offenses 51 00:02:35,280 --> 00:02:38,480 Speaker 2: the very next day when we met was I stayed 52 00:02:38,520 --> 00:02:40,440 Speaker 2: in there after practice, you know, kind of watching guys 53 00:02:40,440 --> 00:02:43,280 Speaker 2: finished pressure. I watched Christian go grab Buster Brown, talk 54 00:02:43,320 --> 00:02:46,120 Speaker 2: to Buster Brown, man to man, have a conversation. You know, 55 00:02:46,160 --> 00:02:49,480 Speaker 2: that's not the expectations. Nothing spilled into the locker room. 56 00:02:49,560 --> 00:02:52,000 Speaker 2: So I think from that standpoint, that part of the 57 00:02:52,080 --> 00:02:54,600 Speaker 2: leadership is what makes it even better, you know, more 58 00:02:54,639 --> 00:02:56,720 Speaker 2: than he was there for his guy. He was the 59 00:02:56,720 --> 00:02:58,640 Speaker 2: first one to respond that type of thing, but then 60 00:02:58,880 --> 00:03:02,440 Speaker 2: handles it the right way with maturity, leadership, a conversation 61 00:03:02,480 --> 00:03:05,240 Speaker 2: with Buster, and it never spilled in anything beyond that. 62 00:03:05,280 --> 00:03:07,320 Speaker 2: And so I think that was just a leadership of 63 00:03:07,760 --> 00:03:12,120 Speaker 2: a great move of leadership by Christian Kirk. Basically, I 64 00:03:12,160 --> 00:03:14,600 Speaker 2: don't watch baseball, but I assume most baseball. 65 00:03:14,200 --> 00:03:20,760 Speaker 3: Fight three games on the sideline. Did you like it? 66 00:03:21,160 --> 00:03:23,280 Speaker 2: Yeah? You think you're back upstairs. 67 00:03:22,919 --> 00:03:23,840 Speaker 3: Or what do you want to do? 68 00:03:25,040 --> 00:03:27,040 Speaker 2: I will do whatever coach wants me to do as 69 00:03:27,120 --> 00:03:29,799 Speaker 2: far as it goes moving forward. I did enjoy being 70 00:03:29,800 --> 00:03:31,880 Speaker 2: on the sideline. It's fun to just interact with the 71 00:03:31,919 --> 00:03:34,720 Speaker 2: guys and players from drive to drive, be right there 72 00:03:34,720 --> 00:03:37,120 Speaker 2: with coaches, Coach Rausher and I go stand off to 73 00:03:37,160 --> 00:03:38,840 Speaker 2: the side, hit the next runs for the next thing, 74 00:03:38,840 --> 00:03:40,960 Speaker 2: which has always happened through the headset, but it is 75 00:03:40,960 --> 00:03:42,800 Speaker 2: a little different to just go stand side by side 76 00:03:42,800 --> 00:03:45,600 Speaker 2: with somebody, talk through it, look everybody in the eye 77 00:03:45,600 --> 00:03:48,160 Speaker 2: as they come off, things like that. Now, obviously preseason 78 00:03:48,240 --> 00:03:51,840 Speaker 2: is a different level of intensity within a game. But yeah, 79 00:03:51,880 --> 00:03:53,560 Speaker 2: I enjoyed it down there, and it's good. It's good 80 00:03:53,600 --> 00:03:55,760 Speaker 2: just working through communication on the headset for coaches of 81 00:03:55,760 --> 00:03:57,520 Speaker 2: who's going to do down and distance. We switched that 82 00:03:57,600 --> 00:03:59,440 Speaker 2: up as games went along. We switched it up within 83 00:03:59,480 --> 00:04:02,400 Speaker 2: a game of who's identifying defense personnel things like that. 84 00:04:02,480 --> 00:04:05,880 Speaker 2: So I thought it was a smooth operation through the headset. 85 00:04:06,120 --> 00:04:08,360 Speaker 1: It seemed last week like Trevor had a lot of 86 00:04:08,560 --> 00:04:11,520 Speaker 1: success under center, just you know, playing a position. What 87 00:04:11,600 --> 00:04:14,320 Speaker 1: are the advantages for a quarterback going under center more so? 88 00:04:14,760 --> 00:04:17,719 Speaker 2: Well, I think just in terms of an offensive approach, 89 00:04:18,080 --> 00:04:21,080 Speaker 2: it limits your tendencies. It limits the tells that you're 90 00:04:21,080 --> 00:04:23,040 Speaker 2: giving to a defense. But a lot of that comes 91 00:04:23,040 --> 00:04:25,440 Speaker 2: from being able to stay in those first and second 92 00:04:25,480 --> 00:04:28,080 Speaker 2: down situations. You know, being under center on second and 93 00:04:28,080 --> 00:04:31,280 Speaker 2: fifteen and some empty set possibly that's not going to 94 00:04:31,360 --> 00:04:33,240 Speaker 2: do as much for you. So it's not we're just 95 00:04:33,279 --> 00:04:35,080 Speaker 2: not going under to go under, We're going under to 96 00:04:35,080 --> 00:04:38,000 Speaker 2: eliminate any tails tendencies. It allows you to get from 97 00:04:38,040 --> 00:04:42,120 Speaker 2: play to play without moving people around. And I think 98 00:04:42,200 --> 00:04:45,280 Speaker 2: you know, if you're great with the ball handling aspect 99 00:04:45,360 --> 00:04:46,920 Speaker 2: of it, you can hide the ball for the defense 100 00:04:47,000 --> 00:04:49,599 Speaker 2: a little bit longer, which I think helps manipulate eyes 101 00:04:49,640 --> 00:04:52,360 Speaker 2: a second level players, third level players even slows the 102 00:04:52,360 --> 00:04:54,120 Speaker 2: pass rush a little bit as they're trying to decipher 103 00:04:54,160 --> 00:04:56,480 Speaker 2: runner pass before they transition into a pass rush on 104 00:04:56,560 --> 00:04:59,880 Speaker 2: play actions movements. And I think that's something he's very good, 105 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:02,120 Speaker 2: a really good athlete, so it just kind of helps 106 00:05:02,160 --> 00:05:04,480 Speaker 2: him the second he snaps around and faces the defense 107 00:05:05,080 --> 00:05:08,240 Speaker 2: be able to see and dictate and determine what's going 108 00:05:08,279 --> 00:05:11,880 Speaker 2: on to see him grow there. Considering, Yeah, I don't 109 00:05:11,880 --> 00:05:13,360 Speaker 2: think he ever went under centered. We were talking about 110 00:05:13,360 --> 00:05:14,680 Speaker 2: that the other day of just kind of all of 111 00:05:14,760 --> 00:05:19,160 Speaker 2: us sharing our experiences as quarterbacks, and I don't think 112 00:05:19,200 --> 00:05:21,239 Speaker 2: he'd ever really played under center. He's never really dropped 113 00:05:21,279 --> 00:05:23,120 Speaker 2: back under center. I think we've probably had less than 114 00:05:23,160 --> 00:05:26,760 Speaker 2: ten since we've been here in our time. But that's 115 00:05:26,760 --> 00:05:29,200 Speaker 2: that's something Again, just because he hasn't done much of 116 00:05:29,200 --> 00:05:30,560 Speaker 2: it doesn't mean he's not really good at it, and 117 00:05:30,560 --> 00:05:32,240 Speaker 2: he wants to continue to work it, and we'll continue 118 00:05:32,279 --> 00:05:35,120 Speaker 2: to introduce that and utilize it when we think it's 119 00:05:35,160 --> 00:05:39,560 Speaker 2: it's an advantage for our offense. I didn't play much. 120 00:05:39,600 --> 00:05:41,239 Speaker 2: I was telling those guys. I didn't take a shotgun. 121 00:05:41,480 --> 00:05:43,520 Speaker 2: I'm sorry. I did play. I didn't play in shotgun. 122 00:05:43,720 --> 00:05:45,600 Speaker 2: I didn't play in the shotgun ntil my junior year 123 00:05:45,600 --> 00:05:48,440 Speaker 2: of college probably, So, I mean, I'm not much older 124 00:05:48,440 --> 00:05:50,760 Speaker 2: than the guys, but I'm old enough to where you know. 125 00:05:51,040 --> 00:05:53,760 Speaker 2: I mean, the gun and air raid and the seven 126 00:05:53,800 --> 00:05:55,880 Speaker 2: on seven summer stuff wasn't really a thing when I 127 00:05:55,920 --> 00:05:58,679 Speaker 2: was growing up, So I just I mean we were 128 00:05:59,040 --> 00:06:00,760 Speaker 2: in high school, I ran this same offense that they 129 00:06:00,760 --> 00:06:03,320 Speaker 2: won state championship with nineteen ninety two, and we did 130 00:06:03,320 --> 00:06:05,320 Speaker 2: the same thing. The little kid would run in and 131 00:06:05,360 --> 00:06:07,880 Speaker 2: bring the play and third and eight, we're gonna boot 132 00:06:07,880 --> 00:06:09,760 Speaker 2: and roll half the field because it was easier to 133 00:06:09,800 --> 00:06:11,359 Speaker 2: see half the field, as that was explained to me, 134 00:06:11,440 --> 00:06:14,359 Speaker 2: So it was easier to cover half the field. We 135 00:06:14,400 --> 00:06:16,720 Speaker 2: had good players. 136 00:06:17,320 --> 00:06:19,400 Speaker 3: Trevor fight it through and playing through all those injuries 137 00:06:19,520 --> 00:06:22,840 Speaker 3: last year. Obviously that shows the toughness. But what does 138 00:06:22,880 --> 00:06:25,920 Speaker 3: that also tell the other guys, you know, the rest 139 00:06:25,960 --> 00:06:27,640 Speaker 3: of the offense, right of the team when he does that. 140 00:06:27,760 --> 00:06:30,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't think anybody questions Trevor's toughness at all 141 00:06:30,240 --> 00:06:33,680 Speaker 2: of being able to take hits respond. I mean there 142 00:06:33,680 --> 00:06:35,720 Speaker 2: were plenty of times. There were probably two or three 143 00:06:35,720 --> 00:06:38,520 Speaker 2: instances last year. We probably didn't know until twenty four 144 00:06:38,520 --> 00:06:40,600 Speaker 2: hours before the game if he would play, and guys 145 00:06:40,680 --> 00:06:42,480 Speaker 2: knew that, and so then to see him continue to 146 00:06:42,520 --> 00:06:45,200 Speaker 2: step up and rise of the challenge, play hurt, play 147 00:06:45,240 --> 00:06:48,040 Speaker 2: banged up, that says a lot. And it's different for quarterback. 148 00:06:48,080 --> 00:06:49,719 Speaker 2: A lot of guys are dealing with a lot of things, 149 00:06:49,839 --> 00:06:52,400 Speaker 2: and obviously his is a little bit more public right there, 150 00:06:52,400 --> 00:06:55,520 Speaker 2: But missing practice and then us not really knowing if 151 00:06:55,520 --> 00:06:56,800 Speaker 2: he was going to go or not, or guys not 152 00:06:56,839 --> 00:06:58,200 Speaker 2: really knowing if he was going to go or not. 153 00:06:58,320 --> 00:07:00,120 Speaker 2: I think I think it says a lot for the 154 00:07:00,120 --> 00:07:02,640 Speaker 2: way he stepped up. I mean, I think back to 155 00:07:02,680 --> 00:07:05,360 Speaker 2: the New Orleans game. It was truly a pregame decision 156 00:07:05,520 --> 00:07:07,680 Speaker 2: of how he felt, how he looked, and then to 157 00:07:07,720 --> 00:07:09,120 Speaker 2: go out and play the way he did early in 158 00:07:09,120 --> 00:07:11,640 Speaker 2: that game was impressive for a number of different reasons. 159 00:07:11,640 --> 00:07:14,320 Speaker 2: But I think I don't think anybody questions Trevor's toughness, 160 00:07:14,320 --> 00:07:15,280 Speaker 2: at least in that locker room. 161 00:07:15,400 --> 00:07:17,400 Speaker 3: So when you get to the point where you're in 162 00:07:17,400 --> 00:07:20,160 Speaker 3: the year three or four of the offense as the quarterback, 163 00:07:20,440 --> 00:07:23,000 Speaker 3: it's easier to miss a week of practice, you know 164 00:07:23,000 --> 00:07:24,920 Speaker 3: what I mean, because you have a little. 165 00:07:24,760 --> 00:07:26,200 Speaker 2: Bit more of a sense of Yeah, I think from 166 00:07:26,240 --> 00:07:28,480 Speaker 2: an understanding, but I don't think there's any I mean, 167 00:07:28,520 --> 00:07:30,720 Speaker 2: you can never duplicate the time on task with guys 168 00:07:30,880 --> 00:07:34,000 Speaker 2: of even throwing a certain route that's in the game 169 00:07:34,000 --> 00:07:36,240 Speaker 2: plan that week of just here's what it's going to 170 00:07:36,280 --> 00:07:37,920 Speaker 2: look like, feel like as you go, and if you 171 00:07:37,960 --> 00:07:41,080 Speaker 2: miss those live practice opportunities, I mean, even days that 172 00:07:41,120 --> 00:07:43,520 Speaker 2: we have walked through Wednesdays later in the year, we're 173 00:07:43,520 --> 00:07:45,800 Speaker 2: getting those throws. On a Thursday, we may come back 174 00:07:45,840 --> 00:07:47,440 Speaker 2: and get full speed throws with some of the guys 175 00:07:47,440 --> 00:07:50,680 Speaker 2: that highlight some different areas or different timing type throws 176 00:07:50,680 --> 00:07:53,520 Speaker 2: that we need to get. So nothing will ever take 177 00:07:53,560 --> 00:07:56,840 Speaker 2: the place of those on field live reps, even if 178 00:07:56,880 --> 00:07:59,600 Speaker 2: it's just a receiver and a quarterback throwing together. But 179 00:08:00,160 --> 00:08:02,360 Speaker 2: you can never really duplicate that. 180 00:08:02,400 --> 00:08:05,280 Speaker 3: I think Doug talked earlier this spring about you know, 181 00:08:05,440 --> 00:08:07,760 Speaker 3: year three sometimes takes three or four years, but you know, 182 00:08:08,040 --> 00:08:09,560 Speaker 3: once you get to that point, you can have that 183 00:08:09,680 --> 00:08:12,360 Speaker 3: jump here. Do you get a sense Trevor's headed for 184 00:08:12,400 --> 00:08:12,960 Speaker 3: that jump? Yep? 185 00:08:13,200 --> 00:08:14,840 Speaker 2: I think so. I think he was on track for 186 00:08:14,880 --> 00:08:17,400 Speaker 2: that last year. I think the first half the season 187 00:08:17,440 --> 00:08:18,520 Speaker 2: he was playing as good as anybody. 188 00:08:18,520 --> 00:08:19,640 Speaker 1: I don't know if he was getting. 189 00:08:19,360 --> 00:08:21,880 Speaker 2: Credit for that outside the building, I have no clue, 190 00:08:22,040 --> 00:08:24,280 Speaker 2: but we were very happy with how he was playing, 191 00:08:24,280 --> 00:08:27,400 Speaker 2: how he was running the offense, managing games, winning games 192 00:08:27,440 --> 00:08:31,320 Speaker 2: for us. So yeah, I think Trevor just continues to 193 00:08:31,320 --> 00:08:35,040 Speaker 2: grow every single year within the offense, just within playing quarterback, 194 00:08:35,160 --> 00:08:39,000 Speaker 2: leading this team, being the face of the franchise. It's 195 00:08:39,040 --> 00:08:41,480 Speaker 2: been super impressive since the day I got here. Just 196 00:08:41,520 --> 00:08:44,200 Speaker 2: working with him and to see him grow and step 197 00:08:44,200 --> 00:08:47,000 Speaker 2: into I mean, what I think he feels naturally ahead 198 00:08:47,040 --> 00:08:49,280 Speaker 2: for him has been really cool to see and I 199 00:08:49,960 --> 00:08:51,559 Speaker 2: think he's just going to continue to get better every 200 00:08:51,559 --> 00:08:52,080 Speaker 2: single day. 201 00:08:52,600 --> 00:08:54,080 Speaker 1: Thanks