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Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and buck

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Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast.

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Speaker 2: Welcome in Monday edition Clay Travis buck Sexton Show. We

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Speaker 2: have got a loaded program for you. On what is

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Speaker 2: the twenty second anniversary of nine to eleven.

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Speaker 3: Frank Seller will join us.

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Speaker 2: I know it is a day of somber reflection for

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Speaker 2: many all over the country, particularly those of us who

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Speaker 2: are listening in the wor a listening area who were

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Speaker 2: directly impacted on that day twenty two years ago. We

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Speaker 2: will talk with Frank Seller, who has done incredible work

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Speaker 2: to ensure that no one ever forgets this day. We

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Speaker 2: will also be talking about a big win that came

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Speaker 2: out on Friday evening from the Fifth Circuit determining that

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Speaker 2: your federal government, the Biden administration in particular, had been

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Speaker 2: acting to censor the opinions of many of you out

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Speaker 2: there and the larger American population as it pertain to COVID.

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Speaker 2: This is potentially the most transformative First Amendment case in

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Speaker 2: the twenty first century.

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Speaker 3: Big ruling.

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Speaker 2: There, we'll talk with the Attorney General of Missouri who

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Speaker 2: has been involved in bringing this case that could hold

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Speaker 2: Joe Biden and his administration responsible for what is actually

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Speaker 2: a direct attack on democracy, because if you cannot share

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Speaker 2: your opinions, we do not have in any way a

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Speaker 2: representative marketplace of ideas and a democratic process in place

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Speaker 2: at all.

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Speaker 3: We will discuss that also.

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Speaker 2: Gavin Newsom, my boy, put down the line and said

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Speaker 2: maybe we got a few things wrong with COVID in

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Speaker 2: California in his Big Meat the Press interview, Buck, I'm

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Speaker 2: interested to hear all of this. President Biden not being

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Speaker 2: available to appear at nine to eleven. Instead, they've got

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Speaker 2: Kamala Harris doing the ceremonies this morning. But I wanted

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Speaker 2: to start. Oh what I think is one of the

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Speaker 2: most entertaining clips to potentially ever air during a tennis match,

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Speaker 2: Novak Djokovic wins his twenty fourth major and his championship

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Speaker 2: shot was brought to you by Maderna. If you have

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Speaker 2: not heard this, the one man who did not get

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Speaker 2: the COVID shot winning the championship Maderna's shot of today.

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Speaker 2: You're gonna love it. But I wanted to start, Buck.

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Speaker 2: First of all, do you have a good weekend? Exciting

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Speaker 2: times down in South Florida.

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Speaker 3: I did, thank you.

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Speaker 4: I watched the tennis which and I played some tennis,

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Speaker 4: so you know that's the thing. You watch it and

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Speaker 4: I want to get out there yourself. Yeah, right on

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Speaker 4: the good side of things. Everybody listening. They actually made

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Speaker 4: mention of this as well in the championship award ceremony.

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Speaker 4: Tennis more than any other activity. There's some study that

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Speaker 4: just came out, extends your life if you were a

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Speaker 4: tennis player, more so than.

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Speaker 3: Jogging, swimming.

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Speaker 4: Those are good, don't get me wrong, But tennis extends longevity.

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Speaker 4: This was what they were talking about in the winner

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Speaker 4: circle at the very end. But I have to say

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Speaker 3: Very woke too.

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Speaker 4: I think if it was less heavily international, it's a

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Speaker 4: djokeviches from Serbia and people from all over the world.

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Speaker 4: But the fifty years of equal pay signs on the court,

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Speaker 4: and there's just a lot. Also, I think it's none

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Speaker 4: of the commentators noted why isn't he at made?

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Speaker 3: He probably would have.

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Speaker 4: Won last summer too, Why isn't he at you at

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Speaker 4: Major win number twenty five? Because the bid administration had

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Speaker 4: a rule as we all know that if you weren't vaccinateed,

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Speaker 4: you could not legally enter the United States, even though

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Speaker 4: at that point by the by last summer it couldn't

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Speaker 4: have been more clear. You give people the value, you

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Speaker 4: give people the vACC and they still give people the virus.

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Speaker 4: It doesn't make any difference whatsoever. And we had millions

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Speaker 4: of illegals pouring over the border without any testing whatsoever,

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Speaker 4: and they're allowed to go to school with your kids.

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Speaker 4: Your kids, by the way, in New York City, must

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Speaker 4: be vaccinated. Illegals kids don't have to be vaccinated. I mean,

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Speaker 4: you're watching the degradation of law and of basic government

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Speaker 2: It wasn't just the United States. I mean he lost

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Speaker 2: Djokovic has and will continue to add to that. But

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Speaker 2: he lost what would have been several tournaments that he

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Speaker 2: him to set the record even more majestically, even more

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Speaker 2: likely to not be ever challenged if he had been

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Speaker 4: Granted tennis player of all time by the numbers and avoids,

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Speaker 4: COVID show, nuts and gluten I will have you know,

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Speaker 4: does a lot to that.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, oh yeah, very very fastidious about his gluten free nature.

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Speaker 3: We'll talk about this a little bit more.

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Speaker 2: He also wore a Kobe Bryant shirt and I was

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Speaker 2: watching this last night when he won with my wife,

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Speaker 2: and I said, I bet Kobe would.

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Speaker 3: Have refused to get the COVID shot.

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Speaker 2: And also, did you I mean that also, did you

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Speaker 2: see Matthew McConaughey in the in the box when Novak won?

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Speaker 2: Evidently he's big buds with Novak. I wonder whether McConaughey

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Speaker 2: between sort of the Woody Harrelson hippie like world that

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Speaker 2: supporters that were very like There's that interesting overlap of

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Speaker 2: people who were just pro freedom and might be coming

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Speaker 2: McConaughey is actually in that camp too, just because he's

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Speaker 2: such good friends with Novak. It would seem like something

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Speaker 4: I'm still waiting for the mass apologies, and I will say,

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Speaker 4: I think, do we have Fauci? Do we have Fauci?

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Speaker 4: This clip of him from over the weekend, I'm calling

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Speaker 4: I'm calling an audible on this one because I just

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Speaker 3: Maybe maybe we have to load it up.

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Speaker 4: He's now saying that the Cochrane study isn't definitive because

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Speaker 4: there are other studies. The Cochrane study is truly a

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Speaker 4: study of all the studies, correct, And Fauci's response is.

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Speaker 3: But there are other studies that say other things.

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Speaker 4: And you sit there and you look at him, You're like,

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Speaker 4: this man was left in charge of our pandemic. If

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Speaker 4: the teeth of a much more dangerous virus like the

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Speaker 3: Can you imagine these far younger people, which is far scarier.

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Speaker 4: Specifically targeted people twenty to forty by the numbers, more

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Speaker 4: have it might have turned into like mad Max.

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Speaker 3: Out there on the streets.

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Speaker 4: I mean, there are public health experts, are third rate

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Speaker 4: intellectuals and fourth rate politicians, and none of them have

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Speaker 4: none from the Biden administration era. And even Gavin Newsom,

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Speaker 4: who's out there, you know, being a communist, but a

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Speaker 4: well dressed and very smooth communist, likable communist. He's a

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Speaker 4: likable communist, I have to say here here he is

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Speaker 4: finally starting to and I think it's in anticipation of

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Speaker 3: They're gonna be like, we need a double mask.

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Speaker 4: And I don't think I don't even think California is

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Speaker 2: You know, I responded with saying, I don't think they

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Speaker 2: finally stood up for it. Yes, thank you Philadelphia. They

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Speaker 4: Here's Gavin Newsom though when he's when he's it's been

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Speaker 4: what three years, Well, I'm trying to think going on

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Speaker 4: four years Chuck Todd sitting down with Gavin Newsom and

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Speaker 4: they're having a discussion about this, where Gavin all of

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Speaker 3: It's like, yeah, man, I mean, it was just like

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Speaker 5: It was an interesting piece in Harper's that sort of

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Speaker 5: was critical of your decisions. From this perspective. You found

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Speaker 5: a way to allow the motion picture industry and the

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Speaker 5: but she didn't allow people to grieve together at funerals

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Speaker 5: such a polarized disconnect. Would you prioritize right, this is

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Speaker 5: this anger between the.

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Speaker 3: Populace and the elite.

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Speaker 5: Supposed here you prioritize this industry, but you know you

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Speaker 5: were tougher on those that just wanted to go worship.

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Speaker 3: So what do you say to that Christias. I think

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Speaker 3: there's a lot of humility.

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Speaker 1: And we didn't know.

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Speaker 6: We didn't know, and it was hardly I it was

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Speaker 3: We've evolved. We didn't know, we didn't know. We're experts

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Speaker 4: Whether it's Lenin's Soviet Union or you know, go down

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Speaker 4: the list. No one is ever responsible for the horrible

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Speaker 4: things that happen, including the leadership Clay, because it's a

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Speaker 4: collective decision. Everybody agreed together. That is a lie and

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Speaker 4: a flaggered one. Gavin Newsom, the buck stops with him

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Speaker 4: in California and what he did to that state, among

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Speaker 4: other governors, what they did to their states is inexcusable

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Speaker 4: and it was wrong top to bottom, and it showed favoritism.

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Speaker 4: It was not only was it wrong, it was unprincipled.

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Speaker 2: I think we're being very fair if we say, okay,

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Speaker 2: let's take March and April off the table, and March

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Speaker 2: the analysis was so early. By May of twenty twenty,

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Speaker 2: were readily available, And it was inexcusable in my mind

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Speaker 2: made from May of twenty twenty on. Now some of

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Speaker 2: you out there listening are saying, Clay, you're being too kind,

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Speaker 2: that we shouldn't have done with and look you, and

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Speaker 2: I argued again, you famously got got absolutely flambayed on

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Speaker 2: social media buck for saying open everything up by Easter

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Speaker 2: of twenty twenty. But and that was a very reasonable opinion,

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Speaker 2: and I was arguing it by then too, like, hey,

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Speaker 2: let's get everything back to normal. We can't have non

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Speaker 2: March and April. Let's take March and April off the table.

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Speaker 2: Every decision from May of twenty twenty, everyone who had

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Speaker 4: I was broadly treated on the Internet as though I

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Speaker 4: was advocating for nuclear annihilation. Yes, because I said, guys,

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Speaker 4: protect the protect the elderly, everybody else get back to life. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: that was one the right thing, correct. Anyone who says

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Speaker 4: Fauci still feels comfortable going, can we come back and

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Speaker 4: We told you that Fouch was out there making the

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Speaker 4: You know, he can't time for us. Yeah, for years

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Speaker 4: I'm back to tell you it's time to consider putting

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Speaker 4: I mean, you've got to hear his justification because the

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Speaker 4: There are other studies play it.

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Speaker 7: Who are specifically looking at COVID. So I think we

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Speaker 2: In other words, if you're out there and you invest,

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Speaker 2: the Fauci is a liar. At game day, congratulations the

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Speaker 2: Let's go ahead and have a little bit of fun

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Speaker 2: with this. I was watching Novak Djokovic win the US

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Speaker 3: I am a big fan of Novak.

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Speaker 2: We've talked about him on this show a lot because

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Speaker 2: Then he comes back and he wins. Maderna is spending

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Speaker 2: money like crazy? Honest question for you, Buck, and this

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Speaker 2: is a big picture question. I think that it's rare

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Speaker 3: Right.

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Speaker 2: I mean, you watch any sporting event, you watch any

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Speaker 2: I mean I'm talking about you have to get a

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Speaker 3: We allowed drug companies. I mean for a long time before.

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Speaker 4: Prescription thing was yeah, exactly from prescription drug companies. So

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Speaker 4: that means you can only get this by law from

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Speaker 4: course raises the question why do people in the general

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Speaker 2: Because what happens is, and I guarantee you there are

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Speaker 2: I mean, the branding of the drug makes the drug

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Speaker 2: far more popular and valuable and for all of you

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Speaker 2: out there listening, I just would ask you to think

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Speaker 2: about it. Wait a minute, If you really need medical treatment,

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Speaker 2: why would you be the one who recognizes that you

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Speaker 2: need that medical treatment and be walking in to get it.

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Speaker 2: So the reason why I bring this up is Maderna

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Speaker 2: sponsors the US Open and by the way, Maderna, I'm told,

447
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Speaker 2: also tries to buy up ads during our podcast show.

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Speaker 2: People have sent me messages and been like, hey, Clay,

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Speaker 2: Maderna Advisor are buying up ads during your your Clay

450
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Speaker 2: and Buck show, which is funny in and of itself.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, hopefully we're not gonna be flying around in Pfizer

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Speaker 4: Force one anytime soon here. But you know, nonetheless, well yeah, right,

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Speaker 4: the Clay and Buck brought to you by Maderna would

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Speaker 4: be a tough sell, I think, but we don't. So

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Speaker 4: just for everybody out there, no, because I'm sure you

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Speaker 4: get some of these messages every now and then, like

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Speaker 4: you like we, Buck and I don't sell advertising on

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Speaker 4: the podcast network, right, like, we are not in charge

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Speaker 4: of the ads that you hear. Just FYI, well a

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Speaker 4: lot of that is programmatic as well. It's a whole

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Speaker 4: lot of conversation. But look, the drug companies do do

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Speaker 4: obviously a lot of people listening to this. No, I

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Speaker 4: mean drugs are keeping people alive. I mean the pharma companies.

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Speaker 4: It's more complicated than just.

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Speaker 3: Big pharma is bad.

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Speaker 4: Well, you know, if you need statins, if you need

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Speaker 4: different medications, if you need things out there, you're very

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Speaker 4: happy that we have the drug companies producing this stuff, clearly,

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Speaker 4: But when you're looking at the vaccines and what happened

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Speaker 4: with COVID, I mean, it turned into nobody was really

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Speaker 4: responsible for the decision was made for the decision that

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Speaker 4: was made to make everybody get the shot, or to

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Speaker 4: try to make everybody get this shot.

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Speaker 3: Because the drug company's point.

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Speaker 4: At the administration at that time, it was the Trump

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Speaker 4: administration and then Member Biden was the mandates, to be clear, obviously,

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Speaker 4: but then it was a Biden administration that was ramming

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Speaker 4: those shots into everyone's arms. But the drug companies say, look,

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Speaker 4: we just did what the federal government told us to

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Speaker 4: in a moment of crisis, right, so you know, that's

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Speaker 4: why they got indemnified.

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Speaker 3: That's why they're not you can't be sued about this.

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Speaker 4: And then the administration both of them just say we're

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Speaker 4: in a crisis, and we told the drug companies go

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Speaker 4: as fast as you can, and we thought that they

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Speaker 4: knew what they were doing. You know, It's a little

487
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Speaker 4: bit like if you got a big tax problem, you go,

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Speaker 4: it wasn't my fault, that was my accountant in your

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Speaker 4: accountant goes ah.

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Speaker 3: I just used the numbers he gave me. I don't

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Speaker 3: know any better.

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Speaker 4: Like that's kind of the situation we're all in here

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Speaker 4: with the COVID vackshot in terms of accountability, And I mean,

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Speaker 4: I wonder, what do you think the numbers are going

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Speaker 4: to be for a Mayrior fans who get another round

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Speaker 4: now of that of COVID.

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Speaker 3: Vaccine, what do you think?

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Speaker 2: According Marty McCarey, who came on with us and wrote

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Speaker 2: this in the Wall Street Journal, I think only twenty

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Speaker 2: percent of Americans got the most recent round of COVID booster.

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Speaker 3: Do you think it'll be less than that? Yes?

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Speaker 2: So?

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Speaker 3: Yes?

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Speaker 4: Isn't that interesting that it effectively tracks political ideology? Because

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Speaker 4: if you ask me how many people in this country

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Speaker 4: are a hard left climate change, you know, all that stuff,

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Speaker 4: I would say it's about twenty percent of the country.

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Speaker 3: That is just completely.

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Speaker 4: You know, women can have male genitals like they don't

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Speaker 4: believe anything, and they'll go along with anything that the

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Speaker 4: authoritarian left demands.

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Speaker 3: It's about the same as what you're seeing with the

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Speaker 3: COVID shot at this point. Yeah, it's about the same.

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Speaker 3: I think.

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Speaker 2: I think there's a huge crossover, is my point. Oh yeah,

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Speaker 2: I think you're one hundred percent right. I think even

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Speaker 2: those people are starting to dwindle, so I think it

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Speaker 2: fits at twenty percent most recently. Now, what they're trying

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Speaker 2: to do, and I'm not an expert in this, but

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Speaker 2: I think they're trying to sink the flush with the

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Speaker 2: COVID shot, right, isn't that the new goal? So you

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Speaker 2: can have your yearly flu shot in your yearly COVID

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Speaker 2: shot and they're somehow intertwined. I think that's what they're

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Speaker 2: trying to do. I don't know what the latest is. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: the best model they can get. And this is true, Nay,

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Speaker 2: who's starting a business or whatever, This is always important.

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Speaker 2: You want subscription if you can.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's basically because your cost per acquisition is very high.

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Speaker 4: So if you can get a subscriber who's getting the

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Speaker 4: product every month. Now, this also if you want the product.

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Speaker 4: That's great because you're getting delivered every month or on

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Speaker 4: the schedule you need, and so it's a win win

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Speaker 4: for everybody. But from the perspective of the covid vaccine manufacturers,

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Speaker 4: they've got to slip in the updated covid vaccine with

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Speaker 4: the flu shot so that they increase the perceived value

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Speaker 4: proposition so that it becomes a normalized and repeated part

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Speaker 4: of standard healthcare. You just get this shot every year,

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Speaker 4: and they don't have to get huge capacity or rather

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Speaker 4: huge adoption of this across the country for it to

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Speaker 4: still be a very successful business model for them, right right,

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Speaker 4: because they're just kind of updating the formula year in

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Speaker 4: and year out. So yeah, I mean you can see

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Speaker 4: exactly what they're doing. I mean, I'll never forget reading

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Speaker 4: about I think it was moderna specifically, people who all

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Speaker 4: these executives who during the pandemic were buying like ten

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Speaker 4: million dollars townhouses in Boston and in the Hamptons, and

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Speaker 4: it was just a total total spending spree because they

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Speaker 4: knew that was as good as it was going to

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Speaker 4: get with your tax dollars. And they're also spending because

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Speaker 4: they got guaranteed tax dollars from you and me and

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Speaker 4: everybody out there for COVID shots that didn't work and

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Speaker 4: to a large extent, were worthless, you know, two or

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Speaker 4: three months after they went into everybody's arms. So they're

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Speaker 4: sponsoring a US Open, and Novak Djokovic famously said, screw

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Speaker 4: you to the idea that you should have to get

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Speaker 4: the COVID shot.

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Speaker 2: This is what aired. I swear you couldn't even make

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Speaker 2: this up. This is what aired on ESPN. And right

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Speaker 2: after Novak Djokovic won, they have a segment called the

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Speaker 2: Maderna Shot of the Day that is honoring Novak Djokovic,

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Speaker 2: the only guy who didn't get the shot winning the

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Speaker 2: US Open.

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Speaker 3: Listen to this audience, Well.

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Speaker 1: It'll take you to the Madernist Shot of the day

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Speaker 1: and it was.

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Speaker 3: Saving the point, that's point to get to number twenty four.

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Speaker 3: There were a lot of shots that were highly impactful.

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Speaker 3: I mean, that's amazing. It's amazing, isn't it. Were you

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Speaker 3: watching that? Did you see that happen in real time?

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Speaker 6: Yes?

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Speaker 2: I did, Yes, it's amazing. There was like this wasn't

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Speaker 2: is that real? I was like, oh, well, let's a

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Speaker 2: rewind that make sure. I'm pretty sure we just heard

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Speaker 2: the Maderna's shot of the day, the championship shot from

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Speaker 2: Novak Djokovic. The only thing that could have been better

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Speaker 2: is if you had said, I'd like to thank Maderna

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Speaker 2: for their worthless shot keeping me out, Like I mean,

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Speaker 2: that would.

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Speaker 3: Have been amazing in the in the thank you speech.

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Speaker 4: Well, you have to also, uh, if you go back

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Speaker 4: and you listen to what the commentators were saying.

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Speaker 3: You know, it's like Macenroe and Brad Gilbert and a

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Speaker 3: couple of others.

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Speaker 4: If you listen to them, they make reference to Novak

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Speaker 4: not in the tournament last year. But no one ever,

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Speaker 4: no one ever, you think they're commentators, right, no one

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Speaker 4: ever says, well that was moronic.

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Speaker 3: Yeah they kept him out.

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Speaker 4: Why, Like, there's no it's just kind of like, yeah,

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Speaker 4: he just missed it, you know, it's like he took

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Speaker 4: a sick day. But no, actually it was a very

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Speaker 4: clear bind administration decision. And look there at some level

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Speaker 4: too that the leftist democrat mechanistic ideology of control in

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Speaker 4: their control freaks. I mean, they just want to be

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Speaker 4: in charge of people and when you and everything that

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Speaker 4: you're doing, and if you push back against that. They

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Speaker 4: think that you are a threat to the established order,

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Speaker 4: or rather the order that they are trying to establish.

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Speaker 4: And that's that's the whole thing. You're not allowed to

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Speaker 4: non comply. And Novak non complied, and now he's got

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Speaker 4: twenty four championships.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and then he wore the Kobe Bryant because Kobe

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Speaker 2: Bryant wore twenty four for the Lakers out there. I

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Speaker 2: actually when I was watching that and I turned to

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Speaker 2: my wife because we were watching this together. When he won,

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Speaker 2: I said, I bet, if Kobe Bryant this is a prediction. Obviously,

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Speaker 2: we don't know, because Kobe died tragically like a couple

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Speaker 2: of weeks before the whole COVID craziness started in the

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Speaker 2: helicopter crash in LA. I think Kobe, being as good

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Speaker 2: a friends with Novak as he was, and as willing

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Speaker 2: to challenge conventional authority, I think if he were still

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Speaker 2: in alive, I think he might have been another one

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Speaker 2: of those athletes, along with Aaron Rodgers, Kyrie, Irving, Novak, Djokovic,

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Speaker 2: who was willing to challenge conventional wisdom and smart enough

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Speaker 2: to have looked at all the data and said, yeah,

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Speaker 2: this doesn't add up right. It takes somebody who is

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Speaker 2: a rare thinker to be willing to stand up in

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Speaker 4: And very rich and have the ability to maneuver around

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Speaker 4: the You know, this is the thing. There were people

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Speaker 3: They are other people who it was.

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Speaker 4: You know, if you're a nurse, you're working at a

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Speaker 4: lose your job. Now, some lost their jobs, and some

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Speaker 4: people in the military, as we know think about we

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Speaker 3: No people lost their jobs over this, lost their jobs

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Speaker 3: over what exactly. Refusing to bend the knee. Practice makes perfect.

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Speaker 4: It's going to dive into politics here in a moment,

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Speaker 4: but this is both political and COVID related to nature,

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Speaker 4: or at least the willingness to question some of what

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Speaker 4: went on there. RFK Junior we had him on the

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Speaker 4: show numerous times, and there are a lot of people

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Speaker 4: who were calling in at one point or at least,

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Speaker 4: we were getting a fair number of callers who fervently

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Speaker 4: believed that we should take a look at RFK Junior.

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Speaker 3: I was highly skeptical. And he's still in the race. Here.

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Speaker 4: He is telling everybody that he thinks he's not getting

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Speaker 4: a fair he's not getting a fair shake from the media.

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Speaker 3: That much I think is certainly true. Play it.

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Speaker 6: My polling numbers are better than ron De Santis and

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Speaker 6: or any other candidate except for Biden Trump. But I'm

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Speaker 6: you know, even when they talk about me on the

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Speaker 6: on the d NC channels, on CNN and ms NBC,

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Speaker 6: they always refer to me. My first name is long

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Speaker 6: shot candidate. I'm not allowed on CNN or MSNBC at all,

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Speaker 6: and all of the Republican candidates I can go on there.

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Speaker 6: Jake Tapper has said publicly that he will not do

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Speaker 6: a town hall for me, even though he's done them

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Speaker 6: with Nikki Hally and with Ronda Santis.

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Speaker 4: It's syal now, Clay RFK Junior, You've you saw early

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Speaker 4: on that you've you've had some I mean, I agree

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Speaker 4: with him on COVID. I just think that him running

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Speaker 4: against the Democrat as a Democrat is a waste of everybody's.

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Speaker 3: Time because it's not going to happen.

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Speaker 4: But he's down sixty points in the latest polling, so

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Speaker 4: it's more than anyone is even behind Trump on the

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Speaker 4: Republican side. He is complaining, however, about his treatment in

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Speaker 4: the media. I feel like he should be expecting this.

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Speaker 4: What do you think about? All this is is the

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Speaker 4: RFK moment as a Democrat, which I have to pick.

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Speaker 4: I had to keep reminding everybody, no Democrats that I

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Speaker 4: knew we're talking about this guy.

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Speaker 3: Is it passed or is it gonna come up again?

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Speaker 4: Now that the numbers on Biden's age and infirmity and

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Speaker 4: the speech he gave over the weekend, you know what

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Speaker 4: I mean?

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Speaker 3: Is it done or are we in the early stages.

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Speaker 3: It's a good question.

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Speaker 2: I think he's one hundred percent right that the fix

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Speaker 2: is in, and it's a great point that he's making.

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Speaker 2: Like all of the Republicans running are getting town halls

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Speaker 2: on CNN.

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Speaker 3: I've seen a lot.

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Speaker 2: Of the Republicans who were willing to go on MSNBC.

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Speaker 2: I've certainly seen RFK Junior on Fox News a bunch.

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Speaker 2: I think we've had him on once on this show.

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Speaker 2: I can't remember it was once or twice. I think

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Speaker 2: him on this show, okay, a couple times, and uh,

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Speaker 2: I think we be willing to have him on again.

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Speaker 2: The fix is in now. The question I think Buck

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Speaker 2: that is interesting about this is does he get upset

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Speaker 2: enough that he contemplates running as a third party?

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Speaker 3: And that gets very interesting?

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Speaker 2: And what is the impact of an RFK junior on

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Speaker 2: a third party race if if he draws fifteen or

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Speaker 2: twenty percent, that might otherwise vote for Biden. So I mean,

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Speaker 2: I'll tell you, I think that's interesting.

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Speaker 4: I think the history of third party candidates is essentially

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Speaker 4: a candidate who will give the eventual Democrat or Republican

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Speaker 4: loser an excuse for why they lost. Because to this day,

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Speaker 4: people still argue over over Ross Perrot, who did he count,

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Speaker 4: who did he take more votes from?

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Speaker 2: I know there's analysis jill Stein and the Libertarians to

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Speaker 2: what they did to Trump in twenty because that's the

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Speaker 2: difference in Trump winning or not in twenty If the Libertarians, folks,

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Speaker 2: if Jill, if Jill Stein doesn't run, I'm pretty sure

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Speaker 2: it certainly is a lot closer for Hillary and Hillary

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Speaker 2: actually Hillary would have won. So for all the like,

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Speaker 2: oh my gosh, the Trump, you know, magic and it

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Speaker 2: was magical, was amazing.

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Speaker 4: I'm not saying it wasn't a great moment. In twenty sixteen,

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Speaker 4: I was actually in happiness shock for a day. I

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Speaker 4: was like, what, let's walking around New York City in

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Speaker 4: the Flatiron District where I lived at the time, and

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Speaker 4: Clay it was like it and the honestly, the only

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Speaker 4: thing it reminded me of because I was in college

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Speaker 4: during nine to eleven. Obviously, today's are remembrance of nine eleven.

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Speaker 4: We'll talk more about that with Frank Ziller Tunnel the towers

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Speaker 4: in the next hour. But it really reminded me of

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Speaker 4: the aftermath of Hurricane Sandy, because people were walking around

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Speaker 4: in this daze. They weren't really you know, after nine

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Speaker 4: eleven people were terrified. It was a whole other level, right,

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Speaker 4: But after Sandy, most people I saw walking on the

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Speaker 4: streets a lot of mid lost power. They and they

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Speaker 4: were just sort of confused and trying to find a

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Speaker 4: place and where to go, and they couldn't use the

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Speaker 4: elevators and you know, to get up to the fortieth

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Speaker 4: story where they live and all this kind of stuff.

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Speaker 4: When Trump won in twenty sixteen, that that's what it

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Speaker 4: was like in Manhattan walking around.

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Speaker 3: People were just total shock.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, and look, we'll see because I still feel

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Speaker 2: like twenty twenty four, if it's Trump Biden is going

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Speaker 2: to be so close that on the margins, you know

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Speaker 2: what the No Labels Party decides to do.

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Speaker 3: Does Robert F.

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Speaker 2: Kennedy Junior get so frustrated at the way that he's

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Speaker 2: being blocked by the DNC that he decides he wants

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Speaker 2: to run as a third party? Does Trump flirt with

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Speaker 2: RFK Junior? Could you see Buck just tossing it out there?

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Speaker 2: Could you see a world where RFK Junior says Trump

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Speaker 2: is the better candidate than Joe Biden?

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Speaker 3: Just I don't think it out there. I don't think so.

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Speaker 4: But if the Democrats continue to give him the stiff

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Speaker 4: arm and not let him get a fair say, he

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Speaker 4: may decide, you know, he's just gonna take the DNC

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Speaker 4: and take a sledgehammer to it.

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Speaker 3: I don't know.