Speaker 1: Look, man, oh, I see you? Why why? And look
Speaker 1: over there? How is that culture? Yes, I guess it's
Speaker 1: the return of the king, the lord of the rings
Speaker 1: down the Council of l round. Can I say, you
Speaker 1: know what's really fun to do to teach a straight
Speaker 1: man the word boots, because you're setting them up for
Speaker 1: failure and misuse. So basically, and maybe this is my
Speaker 1: misunderstanding of it, but I always feel like boots is
Speaker 1: the way you end a sentence. It's like a gay period.
Speaker 1: Like the way that our guests came in here today.
Speaker 1: It was giving Regal excellence. It was giving Regal excellence boots.
Speaker 1: And so I'm working on the show and our director
Speaker 1: is and I'm going to shout him out because, let
Speaker 1: me tell you, I'm obsessed. His name is Andy de
Speaker 1: Young and he's directed all your favorite shows and he's
Speaker 1: directing I love that for you, and I loved it.
Speaker 1: He's wonderful. And so he sort of caught me in
Speaker 1: like a fantasia on the side of the room and
Speaker 1: I was sort of spinning around by landed word boots,
Speaker 1: and he said, what's that? And so I've taught him
Speaker 1: boots and so sometimes he'll come over and give a note,
Speaker 1: and he'll just say boots and walk away. And isn't
Speaker 1: that great? I believe the children our future. It's I
Speaker 1: feel like it's always great when a director can take
Speaker 1: a note. Yes, when you can give a director a
Speaker 1: note and say, hey, maybe try this next one by
Speaker 1: ending it with boots. Yeah, and he kissed me and
Speaker 1: not and I say, that's cute. Now you do this
Speaker 1: actors on set, any time a director gives you a note,
Speaker 1: you have to give one back. That's the rule. That's
Speaker 1: how sets work. Yeah. The way that sets work is
Speaker 1: it's a conversation, you know what I mean. Like you
Speaker 1: as an actor are in conversation with the writers, the directors,
Speaker 1: the producers, the show runners, the network, and you're always
Speaker 1: have to give them feedback. You have to give them
Speaker 1: feedback constantly and honest and honest. You know, there's no
Speaker 1: such thing as authority or a pecking order in those environments. Really,
Speaker 1: I mean, this is honestly, can we get real, Let's
Speaker 1: get let's get real. For once, I was having a
Speaker 1: conversation with a friend of ours. Okay, Nardino love industry.
Speaker 1: Boy has grown up in the in the business, grew
Speaker 1: up in the Hills of Hollywood, grew up in the
Speaker 1: hills of Hollywood, and he said something so real to me.
Speaker 1: What did you say? This said, Well, he basically was like,
Speaker 1: everyone's just scared. Everyone's just terrified. Like you can just
Speaker 1: barge into any office and freak them out and they
Speaker 1: will do what you tell them to. And I'm kind
Speaker 1: of like, I will never it will never get to
Speaker 1: that point with me where I am like, put the
Speaker 1: fear of God and someone. But I'm like, I think
Speaker 1: there's a truth to that. Who was scared? I was scared?
Speaker 1: I was scared dot Tyra Banks, dot Gift, I was
Speaker 1: scared scared? Is this after that girl painted I was scared? Scared?
Speaker 1: I was scared. We didn't even mention that on our
Speaker 1: Tyra Banks like we we ran down the list of
Speaker 1: Tyra Banks iconic minds, and they didn't even get to
Speaker 1: who was scared? I was scared? And we also didn't scared.
Speaker 1: I was scared. I was scared scared. It's so true.
Speaker 1: I mean, listen, first of all, can I just say
Speaker 1: something I found out recently? Yes, did you know? The
Speaker 1: podcast has been cited in academic work for our insight
Speaker 1: into the entertainment industry. I wish I was kidding because
Speaker 1: it sounds like the stupidest, dumbest thing I've ever heard
Speaker 1: that anyone would listened to this and say, we're gonna,
Speaker 1: we're gonna need to cite this in academic work. But
Speaker 1: it's true. This podcast has been cited in academic work
Speaker 1: to new this podcast has received critical acclaim. My two
Speaker 1: favorite things on our Wikipedia page are the podcast has
Speaker 1: received critical acclaim period a boots and the podcast has
Speaker 1: been cited in academic work for their insight into the
Speaker 1: entertainment industry. And it's also on my Wikipedia. Rogers has
Speaker 1: been cited in academic work for you No no, no,
Speaker 1: no no. It is both the best and it's also
Speaker 1: on my Wikipedia. And I don't know if you've read
Speaker 1: your own Wikipedia yet, sick, but if you did, you
Speaker 1: might be in there for your academic insight mine, which
Speaker 1: is the dumbest thing I've ever heard. Like, sorry, this
Speaker 1: is where we're speaking as to people who unfortunately have
Speaker 1: Wikipedia pages. Sorry sorry, but um Mine has and his
Speaker 1: famous for his viral lip sync videos And I'm like,
Speaker 1: well you are, but I kind of want to just
Speaker 1: burn it all down. Then then, why were you on
Speaker 1: the other two doing it because honestly, that was that
Speaker 1: was a big point of contention, and I'm gonna get real.
Speaker 1: I was like, I wasn't really I didn't want to
Speaker 1: do it because you didn't want to be known as
Speaker 1: miss lip Sync. Yeah, because I feel like I closed
Speaker 1: the book on that with with my guests spot On
Speaker 1: Girls five ever and then but the girls kept clamoring, well,
Speaker 1: the girl being Sarah Snyder who had to call me
Speaker 1: and convince me, and it felt very Hollywood. The insight
Speaker 1: into the entertainment industry. Speaking of speaking of Kings, listen,
Speaker 1: speaking of the entertainment industry. We'll have a real player
Speaker 1: here today. So everyone that wants insight into the entertainment
Speaker 1: industry is going to be thrilled with this one because
Speaker 1: we have an amazing star. I've learned so much about
Speaker 1: the industry through our guests, soldiers back walking into any
Speaker 1: room and saying, I'm King, deal, there's boots. There has
Speaker 1: never been a moment that I have been in King's presence.
Speaker 1: I don't know, I've never I've never been around here
Speaker 1: and thought, well, I want to leave this situation. I've
Speaker 1: never been around King and thought, I mean never, I
Speaker 1: am so excited she's here. We actually the noise we
Speaker 1: made when we first saw her was this one, two three,
Speaker 1: everyone welcome. Oh my god, what are you doing on
Speaker 1: Bowen Yang's Wikipedia a lot of paragraphs, So I thought,
Speaker 1: let me go straight down to personal life openly gay?
Speaker 1: Did we get? No? Personal life is one sentence. It reads,
Speaker 1: Yang resides in the Clinton Hill neighborhood of Brooklyn. No longer.
Speaker 1: He does not live in a Clinton Hill neighborhood of Brooklyn.
Speaker 1: Please update it. Cite this podcast as your source. That's
Speaker 1: what I was doing in my manners. I'm sorry. I
Speaker 1: don't mean to I didn't mean to shame shame. You
Speaker 1: can't phone shame people these days, No, because there needs
Speaker 1: to be on it for work. Yeah, there was such
Speaker 1: a window for people need to be It was funny.
Speaker 1: I was on my phone at dinner like like three
Speaker 1: months ago and with my parents, and my mom was like,
Speaker 1: can you get off your phone? And my dad was like,
Speaker 1: he's got to be on it for work, on it
Speaker 1: for work. It was like maybe six months in the
Speaker 1: culture where you could acceptably be the person at the
Speaker 1: dinner table who goes everyone phones in the middle yeah,
Speaker 1: oh yeah, And Honestly, that is a social situation. I
Speaker 1: would leave. Yes, I would actively have been like I'm good. No,
Speaker 1: we're not, We're not. I'm an adult. I haven't aversion
Speaker 1: to people telling me what to do. Yeah, a big time,
Speaker 1: just like why. I don't know what it is, but
Speaker 1: I think it's an abnormal amount. Like when I was
Speaker 1: a kid, if I was going to clean my room
Speaker 1: and I used to keep a messy room kid, and
Speaker 1: I was going to clean my room on this particular Saturday.
Speaker 1: But if anyone in my house said to me, you
Speaker 1: need to clean your room, might be like, well, no,
Speaker 1: I'm not doing I mean when you came in here,
Speaker 1: we said sit in this chair, and you said absolutely not,
Speaker 1: I'm going to sit in that chair. And it was
Speaker 1: a bit and you are sitting in the your O
Speaker 1: G chair, But ha, do you wanted to sit in
Speaker 1: that chair? I would have respected. I would have respected.
Speaker 1: Imagine just telling people no, no, no, And I've been
Speaker 1: doing it since I was well, it's a full sentence.
Speaker 1: That's a rutal culture. Number. Well it's a full sentence,
Speaker 1: and that's a fact. Motherfucker's okay, but you you okay?
Speaker 1: Is it an authority thing? Or is it just being
Speaker 1: told what to do by anybody? It's being told what
Speaker 1: to do by anybody and then authority. I was always
Speaker 1: the like, sure, sure, I'll consider doing that, but why
Speaker 1: explained to me why we're doing so? You on a
Speaker 1: set of a television show or film director comes up
Speaker 1: to you, says, ago, can we try that? Were you hurt? I? Like, no, No,
Speaker 1: I like the version I did where I was actually
Speaker 1: okay and content with it. Okay, Well I think we
Speaker 1: got that right. Yeah? Do you think we could know? Okay? Great?
Speaker 1: When we can move on? All right? And then you
Speaker 1: save the whole save the crew that the production doesn't
Speaker 1: go into like debt trying to pay people over time
Speaker 1: today and the mother hero and you say no fatter
Speaker 1: days and then the crew all goes ok. They do
Speaker 1: and then they bow at my feet. You know they
Speaker 1: don't do that. They don't do that. Guys, I don't.
Speaker 1: I'm not, I'm not this person on clear it up,
Speaker 1: let's clear it up. Do you get sick of me?
Speaker 1: Answer this? Honestly? Do you get sick of me? Yes?
Speaker 1: This is real? Do I get do you get sick
Speaker 1: of me constantly being like no one more graceful employees. No,
Speaker 1: I love it, thank you so much. I do it
Speaker 1: any single time because I don't know if I'm graceful
Speaker 1: and as poised as people perceive me to be, but
Speaker 1: I'm here for the grace is in the No, the
Speaker 1: grace is in the I'm not doing that, but you
Speaker 1: know what, it's also because I'm like, I think the
Speaker 1: very My friend last and I went out to dinner
Speaker 1: with my friend and he's like, yeah, you're just so
Speaker 1: good at being like No. I just had the same
Speaker 1: exact conversation and he's like, I'm always people pleasing and
Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, but also there's like a bunch of
Speaker 1: people that don't like me for it. But I also
Speaker 1: don't care name names. It's funny because I don't think
Speaker 1: they'd want me to know. I'd be like, I know,
Speaker 1: you know, I know that you don't like me because
Speaker 1: I say no. But it's not popular opinion to be
Speaker 1: held to not like, so you have to suffering. Sce
Speaker 1: not popular popular not to be held to not no. No,
Speaker 1: I sucked it up. It's not it's not a popular
Speaker 1: opinion to hold that like to like you are unlikable.
Speaker 1: That I'm unlikable. But I also don't. But I also
Speaker 1: but it's also okay, I don't. I genuinely I don't
Speaker 1: care if people like me. And I sound like this
Speaker 1: is my like I'm walking into real world, real world
Speaker 1: road rules challenge to make friends. It's not that. It's
Speaker 1: just that I'm like, what a burden to bear to
Speaker 1: be thinking about who likes you all the time? Like
Speaker 1: that seems exhausting to me. And I tried it once
Speaker 1: and I was like, oh my god, I can't do it.
Speaker 1: I don't know what it is. I I have that thing.
Speaker 1: I think it's from I care so much. I care
Speaker 1: so much that And you know what's funny is that
Speaker 1: it is an impossibility for everyone to like you that
Speaker 1: you come across and then they'll you ever have like
Speaker 1: a first interaction with someone that just goes a little
Speaker 1: bit left and then and then they walk away and
Speaker 1: you're like, wait, no, you like me, Yeah, you just
Speaker 1: don't know ye yeah yeah, And you feel I fixate
Speaker 1: on that person, But do you fixate on this the
Speaker 1: same way because you actually you are more detached than
Speaker 1: the two of them. Well, my brain will sometimes go
Speaker 1: like that. More so I'll play like a social interaction
Speaker 1: over in my head and like, oh that was Oh
Speaker 1: my goodness, I could be perceived this way. It was
Speaker 1: like my boyfriend yelling out of the window you should
Speaker 1: tell him. And then my brain was I was like,
Speaker 1: I need to address this right now and explain. I
Speaker 1: was going to the fact that I was going to
Speaker 1: tell you this thing. But now my boyfriend has made
Speaker 1: it seem like I had no intention to like skirts away,
Speaker 1: and I'm like, I don't want you to leave this
Speaker 1: interaction now, thinking ago had this important thing she was
Speaker 1: supposed to tell me and she wasn't gonna tell me.
Speaker 1: What a fake bitch. But that's someone I care about.
Speaker 1: That's someone I care about, So no, I don't. I
Speaker 1: will walk away from interaction to be like, well whatever
Speaker 1: most of the time, most of the time, but every
Speaker 1: once in a while I will be like I will
Speaker 1: play an interaction over and over and over in my head.
Speaker 1: Oh I wasn't. I didn't show up well in that one. Men.
Speaker 1: You know, I'm still human, but part of me wants
Speaker 1: to just kill that instinct in my head. Well it's
Speaker 1: it's like I would like to kill the instinct in
Speaker 1: my head for myself because I know what damage I
Speaker 1: can do to myself when I go down the road
Speaker 1: of like, uh, what did I do wrong? How do
Speaker 1: I have to be malleable in every social situation to
Speaker 1: make sure that people like me? But more more of
Speaker 1: it is just like what I what I hope to
Speaker 1: get rid of is this thing of like assuming that
Speaker 1: everyone will like you, period, because we're in the like
Speaker 1: if you're like putting yourself out there as a thing,
Speaker 1: and like, you know, it's like the entertainment instant blah
Speaker 1: blah blah. It's like people are allowed to have their
Speaker 1: opinion on you. Guys. That's just that's just they're right,
Speaker 1: Like we have opinions about people on this podcast for
Speaker 1: all the do DA day. If you put yourself out there,
Speaker 1: you are you know, you're you're up for up for debate,
Speaker 1: but you are up your existence is up for debate.
Speaker 1: The way you exist is up for debate. But the
Speaker 1: way you exist is up for debate. But also I
Speaker 1: like people who are bold, who are boldly themselves, whatever
Speaker 1: that might be. And so if you are boldly yourself,
Speaker 1: surely someone on this planet, there are billions of people
Speaker 1: on this planet, is going to have an opinion that
Speaker 1: is like not favorable towards you because you've taken a
Speaker 1: stance of sorts of like this is how I live
Speaker 1: and someone's not going to like. Then then some people
Speaker 1: are going to absolutely adore, and then like a vast
Speaker 1: majority of people are just not thinking about you. And
Speaker 1: that's actually the biggest thing is that you realize. It's
Speaker 1: like that thing of when you put an outfit on
Speaker 1: and you fox with it, like in your hair, the
Speaker 1: little tiny things, and then you're like, oh, wait, no
Speaker 1: one fucking cares anywhere near as much as I do.
Speaker 1: And that is so freeing. Yeah, you can be also
Speaker 1: crushed by that knowledge too, where you're like, wait, people
Speaker 1: don't care. Yeah, well they can't. I'm saying that it
Speaker 1: can go, it can it can come. I'm not being
Speaker 1: looked at and I'm not being people aren't staring at
Speaker 1: me and being like, oh what about this person is
Speaker 1: going on that level of like they don't care. No
Speaker 1: one's taking me in cat is it? No? But but
Speaker 1: but but good try you know what, you know what
Speaker 1: the thing about me, I'll always try, you know, And
Speaker 1: is that not a rule of culture? You know one
Speaker 1: thing about me I'll always try? King you have a
Speaker 1: traveled Aura about you, because I feel like you've been places.
Speaker 1: My vibe is off. First, it's not what you're saying. No,
Speaker 1: my I have been seeing stars for a week. I
Speaker 1: talked about that, went on a vacation of sorts. Of sorts,
Speaker 1: we'll say less about that. And then I got I
Speaker 1: came back And this has happened twice now in the
Speaker 1: last six months, where I go on a trip to
Speaker 1: somewhere kind of tropical. On the plane home, I start going, hmmm,
Speaker 1: something is afoot. You got the revenge. I got the revenge,
Speaker 1: and I'm like, oh, no, I didn't do anything to Montezuma.
Speaker 1: I personally don't know. The motherfucker was not was nowhere
Speaker 1: near the place that you were in exactly exactly, and
Speaker 1: like she was vacation somewhere else. I was vacationing somewhere else.
Speaker 1: But somehow Montezuma was so obsessed with me, and I
Speaker 1: was sick for over a week and so but just
Speaker 1: like seeing stars, that's like fainting language, but because I
Speaker 1: was dehydrated, but I didn't realize it. I didn't realize
Speaker 1: I was dehydrated. So then I'm like a person who
Speaker 1: when I'm sick. I don't want to be at all,
Speaker 1: and so I like pushed through. I'm like, we're fine,
Speaker 1: we're fine, but stomach, stomach stuff is it'll really happy out.
Speaker 1: And so anyway, I was trying to be like, I
Speaker 1: think we're past it. We're past it. That was a day,
Speaker 1: but then every day this past week has been like, no,
Speaker 1: you're not. Just lay in the bed. And so that
Speaker 1: bitch Montezuma got me. But guess what I'm coming for you.
Speaker 1: I'm coming she will get. Feuding with Montezuma. That's huge, huge,
Speaker 1: that's the biggest feud since I'll say Nicki and Mariah,
Speaker 1: Oh are they de think were the squashed it? I'm
Speaker 1: sure they're not thinking about it anymore. I mean they've
Speaker 1: both moved on to bigger and better, moved on to
Speaker 1: bigger and better. Where was I? Where were you? Montezuma's house?
Speaker 1: Can you name the last great? Because I think you
Speaker 1: and I both want luxury vacation experience and we've chased
Speaker 1: that for years and we haven't. Really nothing's really gotten
Speaker 1: gotten us. Okay, I will say the last one, the
Speaker 1: last where I go, Okay, we've done it, we're doing
Speaker 1: it right. But now I think I'm gassing it way
Speaker 1: too much in my head. Sea Fire kimpt in resort
Speaker 1: in Grand Cayman. That's lovely. Jody was just there. Oh great,
Speaker 1: I saw yeah, and I thought a ve snl and
Speaker 1: I was like, you're in the best place on the planet.
Speaker 1: It sounds. When I went, I took my mom. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I was really sweet. Um. And it was right after
Speaker 1: a labor day, so this is the weekend after, so
Speaker 1: everyone was back to school, back at work. You know.
Speaker 1: It was like you had the grade before and it was,
Speaker 1: I mean, wonderful, But I now I need to go
Speaker 1: back before I vouched for it like that, because I
Speaker 1: am like, are you just big upping this for another reason?
Speaker 1: Is it actually lure? I think it is. I think
Speaker 1: the service at the Sea Fire Kimpton's yes, it really.
Speaker 1: It was like I in a place to like in
Speaker 1: a place where the bar was just lower, but I
Speaker 1: don't think so. I felt luxurious and the service was
Speaker 1: fantastic and the water was blue. Oh see, that's something
Speaker 1: I would really like to go somewhere where you come
Speaker 1: back and you go and the water was so blue.
Speaker 1: I think I've ever been because those people that is
Speaker 1: something people say when they're like the water was blue.
Speaker 1: It's like remember the famous episode of Kardashians or she
Speaker 1: loses her earring and she freaks and one of the
Speaker 1: sisters like, there's worse things happen, people are dying, and
Speaker 1: because she was crying because of her earring, like zooming out,
Speaker 1: the water there was really blue. Yeah, yeah, you have
Speaker 1: to think that's the thing. That's the vacation I have
Speaker 1: been chasing, is that like blue water, lovely hotel, just lounge,
Speaker 1: go to a spa if you will, And I have
Speaker 1: not yet since I think see Fire Kimpton is maybe it.
Speaker 1: I'm thinking about going to Hawaii at some point because
Speaker 1: I've never been there, and I feel that that could
Speaker 1: come predict that place. Hawaii is a blue water place.
Speaker 1: I found myself in Hawaii, Okay, what says? I feel
Speaker 1: like a big part of your your tent poles in
Speaker 1: life are vacations. And I think you and I share that. Yes, Yes,
Speaker 1: And I found truly. I maybe because I'm a pisces.
Speaker 1: I don't know. Astrology is like I it's cool too.
Speaker 1: It's like a little game to me. Yeah, I'm and
Speaker 1: this is king, Okay King. I didn't know King was Pisces.
Speaker 1: I'm just having a eight Okay, I'm tent. What so
Speaker 1: five days later I were born? But different year? Well
Speaker 1: that doesn't really matter. You can I ask you questions rising? Oh? No, okay?
Speaker 1: Which one? What does rising represent? How you show up
Speaker 1: in the world is how you are? Is you're You're
Speaker 1: presenting Capricorn and I'm Pisces. You're Pisces. I'm a dripping, wet,
Speaker 1: soaked blue water vacation squirtl ass um tuna, deep diving
Speaker 1: motherfucking Michael Phelps asked, gold medalist soaked to the bone. Yes, yes,
Speaker 1: seafood fish boots high seas. That's a motherfucking That's not
Speaker 1: a part of me, is drying. Wow, Well, we aspire
Speaker 1: and we aspired. But that's why I wanted to ask,
Speaker 1: because I'm so soaking wet that when you said that,
Speaker 1: I was like, I want to see how deep no
Speaker 1: pun intended it goes? Is it those little little fish
Speaker 1: with the lights on its head? I mean, let me
Speaker 1: tell you. I I need I need water. I need
Speaker 1: to be in it. I need I'm drinking water to it.
Speaker 1: I need to be buy it. I need to I
Speaker 1: need I need water at all time, and so the
Speaker 1: hydration station, Miss Baltimore Crabs crab what do you guys
Speaker 1: call me? Miss crab cakes crab belly. And there was
Speaker 1: a season where Hidie and Bowen were committed to making
Speaker 1: my life hell and they posed it as a bit,
Speaker 1: but they were bullies. By the way, I want to
Speaker 1: confront you on last confront me. She's been saying this
Speaker 1: for weeks months. I've been meaning to confront you, she said,
Speaker 1: she said, I've been meaning to confront you on last
Speaker 1: cultural rista. Please, I'm so glad you asked me to
Speaker 1: be here. Why were you bullying me so viciously? Vicious?
Speaker 1: I was a repertory player at the High I think
Speaker 1: I think Ago had the best bit around being promoted
Speaker 1: ever in the history of essen l. She got promoted
Speaker 1: to repertory in her third season and walked stomped these halls,
Speaker 1: the hallowed halls, saying you better treat me differently. I'm
Speaker 1: rep now, I'm rep And you were trying to sort
Speaker 1: of knock her down a peg. Matt, can you believe it?
Speaker 1: Actually I can't constantly, but by Bowen, king, you don't
Speaker 1: write me into your sketches. I wanted to be in.
Speaker 1: I wanted to be in you want to. I wanted
Speaker 1: to be the niece and Dion Warwick. I couldn't do that.
Speaker 1: I could not do that. I think we'd have more
Speaker 1: problems than fun. I don't let me bo. Let me
Speaker 1: do my impression of of the niecession. I won't. I
Speaker 1: really want to impression of the impression of the niece
Speaker 1: on Dion. Why is that low energy? It's okay, on Dion,
Speaker 1: you look great? Thank you? Wait wait, thank you, brittany On.
Speaker 1: It's not machine gun Kelly this time. I promise, all right,
Speaker 1: bring them out. Can I just wait? Hold on, real, real, real,
Speaker 1: real talk, get real right now or else the moment
Speaker 1: you know, those moments you were just like you don't
Speaker 1: even know that you because this is my sister, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm about to talk. First of all, this
Speaker 1: is casy scorpio. I know the moments when something happens
Speaker 1: to someone you care about and all it is is
Speaker 1: pure happiness. And you're talking about when Dion was really there.
Speaker 1: Thank you did know, and knowing is more than half.
Speaker 1: This is to breast on a on a human. I
Speaker 1: would love for you to lay on my chest, each
Speaker 1: of you, one on the left one on the right.
Speaker 1: Agos egos shown me? Can I say, show me the
Speaker 1: ted I have there? Gordons? They really are They're so beautiful,
Speaker 1: They're really beautiful. And I'm really you should be proud
Speaker 1: of talking about this. I think it's fine. The thing is,
Speaker 1: I wonder if I should say this public say it. Well, no,
Speaker 1: I'm kind of it's it's not a bad thing. It's
Speaker 1: like sometimes I fancy, like I fancy myself a nudist
Speaker 1: without having any knowledge of what that really entails. But
Speaker 1: I do think, like I don't care. Bodies are great,
Speaker 1: like we should all be. There's no there's no like,
Speaker 1: there's no like the ethos to being nudists, Like you
Speaker 1: just show up in your naked yeah. And so I'm like,
Speaker 1: so a bit of a nudist in that regard. And
Speaker 1: so I did not show him during work hours. In
Speaker 1: case anyone's wondering, Yes, this was off off the clock,
Speaker 1: you know, I'm r Oh my god, I didn't know
Speaker 1: where to like locate you guys. So think you could
Speaker 1: just text me, okay, cool text um. So, yes, I
Speaker 1: did show but my breast, but also we're married. YEA.
Speaker 1: Presumably it was in the marital space. Where are we
Speaker 1: at right now, because you're talking about your boyfriend. I
Speaker 1: need space, Okay, I haven't seen you in weeks, I know,
Speaker 1: and it's because I need space. Allow me to have space.
Speaker 1: You had your boyfriend shouting out of a car window
Speaker 1: at you. He's always shouting at me, by the way,
Speaker 1: when you were last on Last Coach, you did not
Speaker 1: have the boyfriend? No, well, well, well, well, when I
Speaker 1: was last well when yes, okay, had you met him?
Speaker 1: King was one of our first guests on zoomed post
Speaker 1: post And then no, I had not. I had met him.
Speaker 1: I had met him, by the way at that time,
Speaker 1: but we were not. It's life is love life I
Speaker 1: got that was so much fun. That was really fun.
Speaker 1: And Will is an incredible actor, and just be having
Speaker 1: to rise to the occasion of acting opposite him was
Speaker 1: like a fun a very fun challenge. That was a
Speaker 1: fun one. Well, you guys, I don't know. It was
Speaker 1: just because I mean that episode was like a full
Speaker 1: full King Right after was King did text King? King text?
Speaker 1: King texted King. I stopped King in the hallway. Do
Speaker 1: you remember this? I go King, and you said, I
Speaker 1: just watched your episode And then and then you said,
Speaker 1: a lot of people are going to be praising your
Speaker 1: work in that, but I want you to know that
Speaker 1: I think your hack your hack. You're not good at
Speaker 1: what you do. And I didn't believe a single moment.
Speaker 1: That's what she said. And then I said, okay, Bowen, thanks.
Speaker 1: I say, hey, mama, stick to sketch, stick to the world. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it looked cute card. That's where that's where your eyelan
Speaker 1: is going to be. Stick to the cute cards. Don't
Speaker 1: try any of this other stuff. You know. He was
Speaker 1: very sweet, very sweet and complimentary. It was hard left.
Speaker 1: We went hard left. So you had met You had
Speaker 1: met him, I had met him. We don't have to
Speaker 1: talk about him. We would want to talk. Do you
Speaker 1: know about what we come through? Can we? I love him,
Speaker 1: by the way him, he's amazing, but in general, but
Speaker 1: King and I have King and I have checked in
Speaker 1: just in general terms with our growth. Yes, I mean
Speaker 1: since she's been on the pod, we've both been on
Speaker 1: separate journeys because we both would lament and and just
Speaker 1: really like commiserate with each other about how it's so
Speaker 1: crazy how neither of us have been smanged in these
Speaker 1: relations but yet but you were getting smanged. Not really.
Speaker 1: Oh and you want to know something, sang bang smushed
Speaker 1: in bankshed smashed and bang bang bars on the floor.
Speaker 1: That's like, it's like it would you human beings need
Speaker 1: to do that, some of them you're in a long
Speaker 1: term relations so I was. And so this is why
Speaker 1: I haven't I haven't seen you that one. That one
Speaker 1: uh ended but very amicably and well, um, but you
Speaker 1: know sort of what happens when a relationship ends is
Speaker 1: that it gives opportunity to go out and get as
Speaker 1: you guys say, smang, which I love, okay, we love that, Okay, okay,
Speaker 1: but we have grown. I feel like since I can
Speaker 1: actually chart the growth and the evolution a little bit
Speaker 1: of of the three kings. I certainly know you. I
Speaker 1: know about your journey, but I don't know whether you're
Speaker 1: sharing the journey. I are we sharing the journey? We
Speaker 1: maybe shouldn't share the journey, okay, because because it's it's
Speaker 1: the journey is a big question mark. And then then
Speaker 1: the journey is not over. And that's one thing about journeys. Well,
Speaker 1: the journey never ends, and that's a fendi fact. But
Speaker 1: I just think I think that's rule of culture. Actually
Speaker 1: the journey never ends. And that's a Fendi factory. What's
Speaker 1: your label of choice? What do you do? You want
Speaker 1: a Fendi thing, you want a Gucci product? I want
Speaker 1: a Jimmy Chew Jimmy Chew Bonobos of course. But did
Speaker 1: you drink any high school? I did not. I didn't
Speaker 1: even really drink in high school. I was like a
Speaker 1: good kid. I was a little thing. But I also
Speaker 1: I feel like, yeah, I'm like I grew up in
Speaker 1: the suburbs, but I feel like the suburbs kids are parties.
Speaker 1: I look at you for you high and I'm like,
Speaker 1: not my high school. Can you imagine that show being reality?
Speaker 1: Like it is so psycho that they that they exist
Speaker 1: in the world in that space. I'm like, there's no
Speaker 1: I don't even think there was any Like I can't
Speaker 1: say anyone in my high school. I went to public school.
Speaker 1: But I'm like, I just if there were anyone in
Speaker 1: my high school like those children, I'm just like, even
Speaker 1: one person, I think we all would have known and
Speaker 1: it would have been such a such a scandal. I
Speaker 1: mean that that's a lot going on there that school.
Speaker 1: I watched the pilot. I watched the first episode What Summer,
Speaker 1: and I freaked at my head such a crazy response
Speaker 1: to it because I was like, I feel fully anty,
Speaker 1: I feel like developmentally stunted because that wasn't high school
Speaker 1: for me. I watched that first episode and I was like,
Speaker 1: I guess that's what high school should have been, Like No, no,
Speaker 1: because you'd be living a very different, hard, fastened day.
Speaker 1: I watched that show and I thought, well, I guess
Speaker 1: everyone else's high school experience was like this, accept mine
Speaker 1: and I'm started making this about me, And I thought
Speaker 1: that was my response to think. I think in consuming anything,
Speaker 1: you're going to make it a little bit about you
Speaker 1: because you're consuming it. And so when you see this
Speaker 1: insane high school of the dress Designer, they come in
Speaker 1: there absolutely fighting and bleeding, geting, cruising, crushing, sting, shooting, shooting,
Speaker 1: like living, dyeing, come back to life, held hostage in
Speaker 1: like the grossest apartment you've ever the most insane, so insane,
Speaker 1: and like, these are not high schoolers. These are grown
Speaker 1: people living in a very specific place. Not and I
Speaker 1: also they're just not high school, okay, but that specific
Speaker 1: place being l a and like, honestly, between watching Euphoria
Speaker 1: and fucking like licorice pizza like through the decades. I'm like,
Speaker 1: growing up here in the city of Los Angeles is
Speaker 1: fucked up. I gotta say, yeah, it's not. The kids
Speaker 1: should not grow up here. Well, I want to raise
Speaker 1: our children here, so you and me? Yeah and l A, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't want that. We we have to discuss this offline.
Speaker 1: Will you guys have a natural child? Will you guys
Speaker 1: have sex? Or will you do Petri dish? Well, go ahead,
Speaker 1: We fucked and nothing's happened. Nothing came out, nothing came out.
Speaker 1: Did you enjoy it sex together? I feel like it
Speaker 1: was we had We had a choreographer in the room, yeah,
Speaker 1: and an intimacy coordinator, but was not We weren't shooting
Speaker 1: anything either. We were to make sure that everyone was respective.
Speaker 1: But we're still sex. You penetrated, Yeah, you. I I
Speaker 1: enjoyed it. Nothing came out, but I enjoyed it. About
Speaker 1: kept telling me you have to take my word for it.
Speaker 1: I enjoyed it. I enjoyed it during during the act. Yeah,
Speaker 1: And I was like, I don't want to take your word.
Speaker 1: Your body will say that you're enjoying it. Yeah, it
Speaker 1: can't just sex. Isn't about like taking my word, you know,
Speaker 1: life episode for yeah, exactly, sex, it's not about taking
Speaker 1: my word. And I think either you or I or
Speaker 1: we both blacked out during it. We both stressed. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we got stressed and were blacked out. So but we're
Speaker 1: still able to maintain a friendship. And that's what matters.
Speaker 1: That's not a marriage. That's not a marriage. That's I think. No,
Speaker 1: But I think all good marriages are based in friendship. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but ultimately your body has to tell you okay, well
Speaker 1: all right, well then off offline as a friend, as
Speaker 1: the third king, I'm worried about you, guys, okay, offline, offline, offline, offline,
Speaker 1: I can we hold on? Both of you have dated friends? Yeah,
Speaker 1: and I think that is that is what I want,
Speaker 1: And I can't. I can't go through my list friends
Speaker 1: you've no, I don't. I don't. I can't think of
Speaker 1: a friend. But I'm saying that's where it has to start.
Speaker 1: I have to date a friend because I don't want
Speaker 1: to meet someone new and have that be like the
Speaker 1: I think that the dating friend thing gets confusing. Though,
Speaker 1: just to actually say this, it's like when you have
Speaker 1: a friend and it becomes more then you have to
Speaker 1: like negotiate like sex with them. You're like, whoa, I
Speaker 1: haven't really necessarily thought of you this way, and then
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, here we go, let's just say,
Speaker 1: breaching the subject um. And but it's it's foundational. I
Speaker 1: don't think it's like totally compromise. I think it's like
Speaker 1: I don't know, because you and you and your boyfriend
Speaker 1: started out as friends, yes, but like barely acquaintances. We
Speaker 1: didn't have any real friendship. Like we went to a
Speaker 1: party together platonically he invited me, and then and and
Speaker 1: now we're together, but we neither of us saw each other.
Speaker 1: Because I feel like if I'm friends with you for
Speaker 1: an extended period of time, my brain just shuts down
Speaker 1: even the possibilities. But I'm like, no, yeah, like it
Speaker 1: could be the most handsome person on the planet. And
Speaker 1: I'm like, my brain is like you're my friend, Like
Speaker 1: you're my friend. I wouldn't want to ever bump. So
Speaker 1: then you think so then you think you got in
Speaker 1: there right on time with with with with yes, yes,
Speaker 1: but well because I'm like we didn't, we didn't actually
Speaker 1: like establish any friendship. It's like went to this party,
Speaker 1: and then a year and a half later connected and
Speaker 1: it was like, yeah, and that's all I want is
Speaker 1: from my real life to reflect love life. I mean,
Speaker 1: don't you though, Like every time I watched that show
Speaker 1: and I watched the first season in one day, in
Speaker 1: the second season in one day, I guess my favorite show. Um,
Speaker 1: but I always it ends and I'm always like I
Speaker 1: kind of want my story. I want my story told
Speaker 1: and want and to live my story, to live my
Speaker 1: story and to have it end happy at twenty nine happily.
Speaker 1: Ever act, That's the thing about it is like that's
Speaker 1: not real, that those parts are not real. Where it's
Speaker 1: like and it wraps, it gets all wrapped up in
Speaker 1: a bow. It's all look look how good and clean
Speaker 1: and pure it is, and like it's rom calm. I understand,
Speaker 1: but we're misleading people. No, I think you can give
Speaker 1: them home. You know my favorite movie? What were you
Speaker 1: about to say? Though? I was gonna say, well, it's
Speaker 1: name your favorite movie first, and then I'll say one
Speaker 1: of my favorite movies. This is Sick is Blue Valentine,
Speaker 1: I like my favorite movie. It's giving reality. It's giving reality,
Speaker 1: it's giving life is not all clean lines and you know,
Speaker 1: and it's mess that song in Blue Out, Yes that
Speaker 1: you and me, You and me, Shell Williams is Yes, absolutely,
Speaker 1: Like honestly, the scene where she's like, okay, you want
Speaker 1: to have sex, Okay, just suck me. He's like, well,
Speaker 1: I don't want you like that, and just negotiating like
Speaker 1: what they what he wants for six and her she's like,
Speaker 1: I just want you to shut the funk up and
Speaker 1: leave me alone. The shower scene when he tries to
Speaker 1: start it up in the shower and she's like not
Speaker 1: into it, It's like, oh god, Like I don't know.
Speaker 1: That felt very voyeuristic to me in the way that
Speaker 1: was like makes you go cross side because you you
Speaker 1: can recognize some of it and you're like, oh god,
Speaker 1: I can't believe there was a room full of people
Speaker 1: like recording this. That is also a thing like with
Speaker 1: I've done now, is it a spoiler if I say
Speaker 1: I've done a love scene now? So in Vire Island
Speaker 1: I had a scene like that and obviously you did
Speaker 1: too on Love Life. Um so you know, like with
Speaker 1: the intimacy coordinator of it all, and like what a
Speaker 1: what a process that is? Did I have a question
Speaker 1: for you. When you were having the conversation with the
Speaker 1: animacy coordinator, did you feel emotional? I didn't. Well, yes,
Speaker 1: I mean what my most I felt remarkably vulnerable, and
Speaker 1: that felt and then I was like taken back to
Speaker 1: I want to say, quite childhood in it anyway, But
Speaker 1: it was just sort of like, Oh, I'm I really
Speaker 1: have to have this conversation with this person I don't know,
Speaker 1: and I have to tell them what I feel safe
Speaker 1: with and what works, and like hear what the director's
Speaker 1: vision for this is and I'm like, oh, I don't know,
Speaker 1: and like do you have my back? So I felt
Speaker 1: very I felt vulnerable just even in my conversation with her,
Speaker 1: and that felt like mildly scary, and I like to
Speaker 1: do things and make me scared anyway. But so I
Speaker 1: was like, whoa, this is a bizarre experience. How about you. Well,
Speaker 1: the the scene that um happens in the movie that's
Speaker 1: not out yet, so no one knows what I'm talking about,
Speaker 1: was I'll be vague, is it's it's it's a very
Speaker 1: specific circumstance. And so I was surprised because I loved
Speaker 1: the animacy coordinator I worked with right away and she
Speaker 1: sat down like cross leg and on the on in
Speaker 1: front of me was like, okay, like slapped her slap
Speaker 1: slaped legs, was like, let's talk about it. And then
Speaker 1: she asked wonder at the same one because she is
Speaker 1: I loved her, but basically like during the conversation, like
Speaker 1: she was asking questions about what she thinks the character
Speaker 1: was feeling, and I, despite myself, I don't know where
Speaker 1: I came from. I started to get emotional and upset
Speaker 1: and I said to her, I was like, I'm getting upset.
Speaker 1: And she sat there and she said, this happens all
Speaker 1: the time, and I started to really cry, and I
Speaker 1: was like, I'm really sorry. It's just it's not because
Speaker 1: I feel uncomfortable doing it. It's just because I'm thinking
Speaker 1: about what it is and etcetera. And she said, I
Speaker 1: want you to know this happens all the time. And
Speaker 1: I thought to myself, like when now, whenever I watch
Speaker 1: a love scene, I'm like, you know, what is really
Speaker 1: vulnerable because you are being watched and perceived. Also you
Speaker 1: have to embody whatever it is going on in the scene,
Speaker 1: and sometimes, like you know, sex is very complicated and
Speaker 1: emotional and it brings up a lot of different things,
Speaker 1: and so I really do think like that that was
Speaker 1: like a really interesting challenge. Wasn't performing that because and
Speaker 1: I didn't expect it because you think you hear about
Speaker 1: how choreographed it is, and you hear about how unemotional
Speaker 1: is unattached, but not really because you still have to
Speaker 1: perform it. As like as a young person watching whatever,
Speaker 1: so much younger than I am now watching Blue Valentine,
Speaker 1: I remember being like, I think they're actually having sex
Speaker 1: and my sister being like, there's no way they're actually
Speaker 1: having sex, and I'm like it, I think they're I
Speaker 1: think they went for it because I was like, Derrek
Speaker 1: st in France is like a unique director and he
Speaker 1: had Brian lived with Eva Mendez in the house where
Speaker 1: they did place me on the pines for a while
Speaker 1: from months together, so I was like, maybe they got
Speaker 1: they came to the two of them came to some
Speaker 1: agreement like well we will fuck, because I was like
Speaker 1: this just looks so real, like the emotion in both
Speaker 1: of them, and so yeah, I read the script for
Speaker 1: Love Life and I knew what it was going to entail,
Speaker 1: and I do remember reading in being very moved by it.
Speaker 1: But then also going, oh, that means I would have
Speaker 1: to be in vulnerable position. Um, and then yeah you
Speaker 1: you go and you do it and you're like, I
Speaker 1: feel So we did our We did our our sex scenes.
Speaker 1: First first day was like what nice to me? It
Speaker 1: was literally that was those were the first scenes we did.
Speaker 1: Go and I was like, oh, do you And I
Speaker 1: was like, would I love to do this at the
Speaker 1: end of the week with you? Because now I know you.
Speaker 1: Familiarity is so important that the person I do the
Speaker 1: scene with I was close to at that point because
Speaker 1: we had done a lot together and I can't imagine
Speaker 1: having just like okay, and like Will is so wonderful
Speaker 1: and was and it's remarkably respectful, and everyone on set
Speaker 1: was incredibly respectful. Couldn't really ask if you have to
Speaker 1: do it for on the first day, a better situation,
Speaker 1: a better group of people. But it still felt like, oh,
Speaker 1: we're starting here, we're gonna go for it, and then
Speaker 1: we're gonna it was a close set. It was a
Speaker 1: close set, but it's so crazy. You're like, as an actor,
Speaker 1: these are the things you don't say enjoy watching, but
Speaker 1: you're like, it's real. This is like a slice of life.
Speaker 1: But then when you actually have to perform it yourself
Speaker 1: on a set in front of people, because even though
Speaker 1: close set, that's you know, the DP is still there,
Speaker 1: the director is still um standing by your and someone's
Speaker 1: watching the monitor. Someone's are watching the monitor. You're like,
Speaker 1: oh my gosh, this, I don't want you guys to
Speaker 1: know what I look like when I'm I don't want
Speaker 1: to hear the words marking rehearsal before I pretend to
Speaker 1: come just sort of how I feel. But it's just
Speaker 1: it's just like it's it is a thing. And so
Speaker 1: now every time I watch a sexy and having like
Speaker 1: I haven't been involved in it, it's and especially with
Speaker 1: something like Blue Valentine, which like famously pretty much got
Speaker 1: an NC seventeen at first and then they have become
Speaker 1: There was a thing with the ratings. I remember what
Speaker 1: it was was there's a scene of like him performing
Speaker 1: oral sex on her and there was a controversy because
Speaker 1: it was like we see blow jobs happen all the time,
Speaker 1: like women performing sex sex on men, and often it's
Speaker 1: like pirt but a woman is being pleasured by a man,
Speaker 1: And it was like Britain with an NC seventeen rating
Speaker 1: it felt too much, and that was a whole you know,
Speaker 1: conversation about you know, like feminism in terms of this
Speaker 1: whole thing. But they went in on those sex scenes.
Speaker 1: There's that shot of him like like from her like
Speaker 1: perspective of him sucking her, and it's like, yeah, I
Speaker 1: I truly to this day that I'm like I watched him, like,
Speaker 1: they're not you still don't know. I'm grown as hell,
Speaker 1: and I go, are they are? They really not? Fucking
Speaker 1: I mean, there's a question they went for it, and
Speaker 1: I had so many things like this would be my
Speaker 1: this will be my first intimate scene. And I'm at
Speaker 1: the stage of matt in my career, and I'm like,
Speaker 1: you don't want to go. I don't personally want to
Speaker 1: go all out for the first thing I do. I
Speaker 1: don't want to unless it's I mean, yeah, it just
Speaker 1: didn't feel like the time and even And that's what's
Speaker 1: also strange as a like self proclaimed nudist of sorts
Speaker 1: being like, well not, but my thing is my thing
Speaker 1: is around like sexualizing my body, So like as soon
Speaker 1: as that happens, I'm like, well, no, that's not nude,
Speaker 1: that's not the version I want. Can't we all just
Speaker 1: walk around naked and not be like and now, yeah
Speaker 1: I see your naked and I'm getting turned on, you know.
Speaker 1: So um but anyway, I felt just I was like,
Speaker 1: this is not the time I want to do this
Speaker 1: version of it. So I did have a sort of
Speaker 1: like very open conversation about like, this is what I'm
Speaker 1: comfortable with, this is what at this stage in my career,
Speaker 1: this is what I want to do. And you know,
Speaker 1: because it also would be weird to be like, yeah,
Speaker 1: given full frontal and then go and be on SNL
Speaker 1: a couple of years and be like and I want
Speaker 1: you to think of me as goofy Like I don't. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I was like, that just feels too exposed to me. Um. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I feel like and this might sound weird, but I
Speaker 1: feel like you hold both of those things very well
Speaker 1: at the same time. Thank you, right, And like what
Speaker 1: I was gonna say earlier was like, I feel like
Speaker 1: you this this isn't what I meant to say, but
Speaker 1: I like, you better get used to it, because you're
Speaker 1: gonna be doing wrong. Guys. I feel like you are
Speaker 1: rom con queen. If you want to be right, okay,
Speaker 1: I mean you had you had it That's that's why
Speaker 1: I was That's why I was like so excited when
Speaker 1: after I watched it, because I was like, wow, I
Speaker 1: just love it. Then I see the future if that's
Speaker 1: what you want. Like, I love it when people that
Speaker 1: that we know from es and now, like yourself, like
Speaker 1: a Dy, like Cecily, like like so many like Bow
Speaker 1: and like so many people, when they get an opportunity
Speaker 1: to show the dynamic nature of themselves as a performer.
Speaker 1: And I was really happy that you got that. And
Speaker 1: I was really also really liked when you're because I
Speaker 1: texted you before. But when your character comes back at
Speaker 1: the end of the season and you find out you
Speaker 1: find out playwriting is like kind of bad? Are not
Speaker 1: even kind of bad? So bad? How did you feel
Speaker 1: when you found out she was bad? I was like, oh,
Speaker 1: well that's inbar. I was like, I'm glad I didn't know,
Speaker 1: because I was originally supposed to do one episode and
Speaker 1: then there's this like you might do a second one
Speaker 1: and this season, and I was like, great, So all
Speaker 1: I have because they were still working on what that
Speaker 1: second episode might be is the context of like for
Speaker 1: this play right, and she seems like and she takes
Speaker 1: herself seriously and like and then like you know, mama,
Speaker 1: like for a writing fellowship of sorts or a workshop,
Speaker 1: and then to have that be the It was a
Speaker 1: horrible play right, and it makes it I mean at
Speaker 1: last boy also that she liked her own line, that
Speaker 1: she said it up to put it in her play,
Speaker 1: like she walked away being like, hell yeah, she is
Speaker 1: kind of toxic. It is a person. I do think
Speaker 1: people were like rooting for her and then by the
Speaker 1: end be like, no, she's a message to I think
Speaker 1: that she'll win the Pulitzer Prize. And I also think
Speaker 1: it was so funny the way you played it, like
Speaker 1: when you were so smugging about like yeah, got you,
Speaker 1: I published my play and here it is and got you,
Speaker 1: got you good? Got you good? Like it was a
Speaker 1: scene where it was like I think he calls you
Speaker 1: out on it and you're like, I don't know what
Speaker 1: you're talking jazz lighting queen so insane. And then my
Speaker 1: my new boyfriend being like I was there when she
Speaker 1: wrote it's not about you, like the perch are you
Speaker 1: talking about? Just the weird This the strangest interaction. But
Speaker 1: that was very fun to get to come back and
Speaker 1: I feel like be like a little more playful than
Speaker 1: that scene. Yea, perhaps otherwise, but yeah, you know I'm
Speaker 1: gonna be rom com queen. Well okay, I guess someone
Speaker 1: who said it. Someone was like, there, we're gonna be Oh.
Speaker 1: I was whatever, this is so gross. I had a
Speaker 1: meeting where like this guy was like, well, we're about
Speaker 1: to be like flooded with rom coms, and I was like,
Speaker 1: I think you're right. Yeah, we're speaking right now in
Speaker 1: the moment, like we're recording this the weekend that Marry
Speaker 1: Me Mary comes out. So and this is what I think,
Speaker 1: like if anyone is going to bring it back in
Speaker 1: like a major mainstream way, it will be j Lo
Speaker 1: because Jlo is four quadrant. J Loo is you know
Speaker 1: you're gonna be entertained. It's a throwback. And also it
Speaker 1: feels now, you know what I mean? And so even
Speaker 1: a plot as dumb as Marry Me and I love
Speaker 1: that it knows how dumb is like, but it's committed to.
Speaker 1: We need more of that. That really that that magical realism,
Speaker 1: I guess like that's surreal magreeds surreal type of romantic
Speaker 1: situation that we can just go for the ride on
Speaker 1: the way we go for the ride on these like
Speaker 1: superhero movies. Yes, here for it, here, absolutely here for it.
Speaker 1: I want more rom coms. I'm like, I want King
Speaker 1: and more rom com Put me in rom coms. Industry
Speaker 1: listens to this industry put me in rom coms. Academia
Speaker 1: listens to this critical acclaim. It has been cited an
Speaker 1: academic word. As you wait, can we pull up your
Speaker 1: your Wikipedia real quick? Do it? Okay? And also do
Speaker 1: you ever read it? I don't, I don't. I don't know,
Speaker 1: so you've never seen it. I've seen it one time.
Speaker 1: I've seen I have seen it one time. I'm not
Speaker 1: gonna lie to it. I have seen it, honey, moons ago,
Speaker 1: but I don't read it. I don't read it. I
Speaker 1: don't know what's on there. So I almost started to
Speaker 1: look myself to try to beat you to it, to
Speaker 1: be like, don't say anything, but I want to know
Speaker 1: what it has under personal life. That's always the most
Speaker 1: fascinating thing. Mind says Rogers is openly gay, okay, And
Speaker 1: he said mind says he is color blind, and they
Speaker 1: can cite it because they need a citation. In two six,
Speaker 1: who is of Nigerian heritage graduated from Eastern Technical High
Speaker 1: School in Essex, Maryland near Baltimore, received a biology degree
Speaker 1: from University of Southern California, and decided to be Okay
Speaker 1: and then and it's basically your story. Yeah, I have
Speaker 1: I take issue with Maryland near Baltimore. So I grew
Speaker 1: up in Baltimore County. So it's Baltimore. There's Baltimore City,
Speaker 1: and there's Baltimore County. And I went to a Baltimore
Speaker 1: County public school, Eastern Technical High School. So when people
Speaker 1: say near Baltimore, I'm like, but it is Baltimore. So
Speaker 1: that's I take issue with my Wikipedia. Someone fixes someone it.
Speaker 1: This is the thing exerts in any city, the places
Speaker 1: that are kind of in the city, kind of not
Speaker 1: they're part of the city. They're part of the city.
Speaker 1: No one, no one has like the local pride enough
Speaker 1: to be like no, no, no, no no, no, I'm from Aurora, Colorado.
Speaker 1: I'm never gonna say I'm from Aurora, Colorado over Denver,
Speaker 1: because who gives a ship? Yeah, I mean, that's that's
Speaker 1: with Long Island. It's like that. Usually just say I'm
Speaker 1: from right because who cares? Who cares? You have to
Speaker 1: give people in Okay, that's all I'm saying. That's all
Speaker 1: I'm saying. So that's I was thinking it might say
Speaker 1: something about our relationship and it doesn't. And boyfriends you
Speaker 1: were rumored with Jeremy O. Harris before. Okay, so many
Speaker 1: people I cannot confirm, nor denye oh. How often do
Speaker 1: I show up in Mr roh Harris's coronavirus mixtapes? Not
Speaker 1: that much, You're right, I mean read between the lines, people,
Speaker 1: between the lines. Jeremy took a polaroid photo of me
Speaker 1: and my boyfriend this summer at a g Q not
Speaker 1: quite g Q party. But no, no, no, it was no,
Speaker 1: I'm trying. I realized that when I said g I
Speaker 1: was like, it wasn't a g Q party. Two be like,
Speaker 1: she's never been invited to one of our parties, but
Speaker 1: it was a g Q adjacent Like invite go to
Speaker 1: your party. No, it's fine, you don't have to. But
Speaker 1: he took a polaroid into this damn Like, where is
Speaker 1: the polaroid? What has he done with? No? I know,
Speaker 1: I'm sure nothing bad. I think it was it was cool,
Speaker 1: but I was, where is it? Where is the I was?
Speaker 1: You know, you take a polaroid I'm like, I want
Speaker 1: to say, I want to have it. I don't trust
Speaker 1: the polaroid. Polaroids can go either. Why polaroids can even
Speaker 1: be classic forever or absolute garbage? Well, they're very forgiving, yeah,
Speaker 1: and so I feel your wise and then if they're bad,
Speaker 1: and they're bad and there's no saving it, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Well, because like it's not like you
Speaker 1: can't you can't go like you can with an iPhone
Speaker 1: boop poopoop poop poop. Taking many photos of polaroid really
Speaker 1: is a moment you get your exposures. Yeah, I want
Speaker 1: us to do a nudist sketch. Okay, let's do it
Speaker 1: on NBC. I think there's the way to do it. Okay,
Speaker 1: where we're but ass naked. I'm not even I'm looking
Speaker 1: at you in the eyes. I'm gonna write where if
Speaker 1: you want to be on it with me, I want
Speaker 1: to do it. Go King won't write with me and
Speaker 1: s now No, Here's I was just gonna bring up
Speaker 1: nodding eye contact and nodding. Do you want to talk
Speaker 1: about talk about him? The sketch. The sketchy wrote that
Speaker 1: ate fucking ship. It was a table read that a
Speaker 1: lot of things, a lot of things, but I think
Speaker 1: ours really did. And can I just say I didn't
Speaker 1: deserve to because you know why. Okay, So I might
Speaker 1: have mentioned this before, but Ago and I were at
Speaker 1: the host dinner and you know, you have little side conversations,
Speaker 1: and Ago and I were talking about some something, and
Speaker 1: then you, me and Chloe maybe talked about the time
Speaker 1: when on the tire Banks show she came out one
Speaker 1: day and pretended to have rabies. Yes, and then this
Speaker 1: culture and I was like, she's barking, barking, barker and
Speaker 1: basically like kind of explaining all the beats to the
Speaker 1: table and to you. And then do you remember this? Yeah? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I turned and I see Lauren laughing like I've never
Speaker 1: seen him laughing, true laughter at the at at this
Speaker 1: at this premise of tire Banks barking and flombing at
Speaker 1: the mouth, pretending like thinking that having rabies turns you
Speaker 1: into a dog. And Lauren laughed like, We've never I've
Speaker 1: never seen never seen it, I've never seen it in
Speaker 1: a host dinner. And so then I was like, well,
Speaker 1: we have to write it. Daddy loves it, Daddy loves it.
Speaker 1: We have to do it, we do it. We do it,
Speaker 1: and it eats absolutely ship because and you know what
Speaker 1: you want to know. I want to know my theory
Speaker 1: of why about it? I told you that already because
Speaker 1: we named we wrote this with Will Stephen King Will Stephen,
Speaker 1: and we we were like, what should what should this
Speaker 1: talk show? We called it was like give me like
Speaker 1: a Regius and Cathy kind of talk show. Two people
Speaker 1: having a talk show we named chaotic Sis and Sissy
Speaker 1: where my name was Sis short for Sismann, and your
Speaker 1: your name was Sissy. And I think I think the
Speaker 1: room kind of like really tensed up because they saw
Speaker 1: the words sis and they were like, oh, what's this
Speaker 1: going to be about? Also they did I think they?
Speaker 1: I think they maybe did. I can't tell if we're
Speaker 1: giving ourselves too much credit or not enough, but I
Speaker 1: do think you're right. We also have to say that,
Speaker 1: like the room is now they of the rumor favor
Speaker 1: that kind of thing. Well, absolutely would not, absolutely would not.
Speaker 1: We did not take that into account. We've been stopping
Speaker 1: this short of like pulling it up and reading it.
Speaker 1: I mean, let's read it, shall we perform it, Let's
Speaker 1: do to page, Let's do one page of it. The
Speaker 1: sketch should be heard. Let's just do one page and
Speaker 1: then see and then and then we'll do Okay, I
Speaker 1: can pull it up. Do you need me to read
Speaker 1: stage directions? Ulous? This is no okay? Can we do what?
Speaker 1: We'll cut around this to that it's very clean, right, Doug? Okay? Um,
Speaker 1: are you emailing it? Hold on? I need to save
Speaker 1: this as hold on, hold on, hold is worth it.
Speaker 1: I love you. You guys have pretty much decided you
Speaker 1: know why bombs and now you're bravely going to perform
Speaker 1: it on the podcast. And the readers are gonna tell
Speaker 1: us if a bomb because Sissy or if the sketch
Speaker 1: was bad. I think this sketch is bad. Okay, we're
Speaker 1: gonna because we're gonna do it can be both, you know, okay.
Speaker 1: Siss and Sissy Show open on Talk Show Package Music
Speaker 1: Daytime Talk Show Applause Today on Siss and Sissy Peloton
Speaker 1: instructor Cody rigsby human rights activists Seema Gaudry and a
Speaker 1: performance by R and B Trio W E B. The
Speaker 1: Girls to live talk shows and here they are the
Speaker 1: Daytime Duke and Duchess Siss Berman and Sissy do twat
Speaker 1: interrupt and low energy. Hi everyone, guys, Yeah, yeah, Hi guys. Wow, Okay,
Speaker 1: get a big show today. See mc gaudry is here
Speaker 1: in studio. This girl built libraries for indigenous children and Suedan.
Speaker 1: We love that, don't We give it out and give
Speaker 1: it incredible? Okay, just a heads up. We're a little
Speaker 1: out of sorts. We had a crazy morning. Sismon and
Speaker 1: I were getting milk Bobo's before the show, as we do,
Speaker 1: and boom a poodle in the parking lot, totally unhinged,
Speaker 1: lunges right at us, mouthful of teeth and hand to god,
Speaker 1: bites me in the box. He sunk his teeth in
Speaker 1: that thing. I was screaming, kicking the dog everywhere. It
Speaker 1: was a true nightmare. Oh my lord, I thought poodles
Speaker 1: had manners. Are you too? Okay, totally fine. We went
Speaker 1: to Urgent Care. I did test positive for a little
Speaker 1: bit of rabies, but I'm all good and I got
Speaker 1: my box totally stitched up. Give it up for Urgent care.
Speaker 1: Y'all good for you guys, And you're sure you're okay
Speaker 1: to do the show. Yeah, totally totally. I'm I'm just
Speaker 1: a little tired, kind of worn down right now, is sweetie? Actually, yeah,
Speaker 1: that'd be great. Sorry, just one second long silence as
Speaker 1: Ego walks in her still the back of the sets,
Speaker 1: at least since my bottle of water, milking the moment.
Speaker 1: What a professional, what a fighter? Right? Give it up
Speaker 1: for Sissy? Do twatch Rodney? How was your weekend? Actually,
Speaker 1: Sissy was great. I had the kids, we made pigs
Speaker 1: in a blanket and watched Michael Clayton. It was chilling. Okay,
Speaker 1: I'm okay, I'm back, ready to do a show. Okay,
Speaker 1: you go girl, all right. You know I'm from Peloton,
Speaker 1: dancing with the stars and getting COVID three times. It's
Speaker 1: Cody Rigsby. He's like walking on Mikey inters Cody. He's
Speaker 1: the muscular what's up, chi, Cody? Is so good to
Speaker 1: see you now. Peloton is getting into scripted content, right,
Speaker 1: you have your own streaming series I do. It's called
Speaker 1: Hit and Run. It's about a divorced teacher's mission to
Speaker 1: bring clean water to Jackson Hole. So I'm sorry, is Cissy? Okay?
Speaker 1: I goes convulsing, starting im sorry starting it's the rabies.
Speaker 1: She's barking like a dog, Sissy. No, she's foaming dear
Speaker 1: lord holder still but one tries to pin her down.
Speaker 1: She's fully foaming at the mouth. Bissy, it's me, your
Speaker 1: bfmost a show together? Sissy out? Oh my god, Sis,
Speaker 1: is that you? Where? Where am I? I wasn't turning
Speaker 1: into a dog? Was I are? You? Were? Sissy? The
Speaker 1: rabies took hold of you know, I knew it. I
Speaker 1: don't think that's how rabies works. But you could be
Speaker 1: demon possessed and that you can't do much about it. Now.
Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure it's my rabies, Rodney, I should know
Speaker 1: I have it. Okay, God, Cody, Ricky, it's so good
Speaker 1: to see you. Hey, that was definitely a demon. Cody,
Speaker 1: drop it. Sissy has rabies. She's turning into a dog.
Speaker 1: It's fine. We have a show to do. Thank you.
Speaker 1: Our next guest is nominated for the Nobel Peace Prize
Speaker 1: for her literacy. Hold on, I need that water. I
Speaker 1: think I caught some of Sissy's foam in my mouth.
Speaker 1: Oh no, this could be really, really, really bad. I'm
Speaker 1: going to be fine. I just need a sip of water.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, Sis not sick. I'm okay? Really what
Speaker 1: la everywhere? He didn't even get bit Jesus Christ, my
Speaker 1: box gave sis rabies a. We're gonna get out and
Speaker 1: live with that guilt. I cannot wait. I lost my place.
Speaker 1: You're filming, okay, it's a sign that we could stop.
Speaker 1: Keep going now, no mat madness both stage, mommy my
Speaker 1: ass right now? Okay? Oh no? I felt that coming
Speaker 1: back to climbing on the table and on the floor
Speaker 1: behaving like dogs. Can I help? Should I go? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Go right now. I think we're entering the end game here.
Speaker 1: I might have to shoot him. Oh my garters, we
Speaker 1: went rabid, folks, What is going on? I think I'm
Speaker 1: having trauma flashbacks. All I remember is tappy okay and
Speaker 1: brown milk. Thank god, you guys were okay. I was
Speaker 1: gonna kill you both on hair. My god, that's all
Speaker 1: the time we have today. Everyone. Apologies to see mcgaudrey,
Speaker 1: who flew here on her own dime. But don't worry.
Speaker 1: She's not leaving her empty handed. We're sending her home
Speaker 1: with the CIS and Cissy wine opener. That thing is cute.
Speaker 1: You know. I'm getting air just to lick my own ass.
Speaker 1: I think we should cut to commercials that UR didn't
Speaker 1: care sout out all right, let's just let's there's something here,
Speaker 1: there's something here, Okay, it wasn't. And honestly, Matt, I
Speaker 1: appreciate you stage momming me and being like you keep going,
Speaker 1: you keep going, what were we going to do? Stop
Speaker 1: before that line about her going back on her own dime.
Speaker 1: Believe in your jokes. You're so right, you're so right,
Speaker 1: you're so right. I thought that was honestly, did not
Speaker 1: deserve the full bomb that it was at table, I mean,
Speaker 1: played too literal silence, silence. It was like we were
Speaker 1: doing a dramatic piece, a moving dramatic piece, silence, and
Speaker 1: the only voices were our own. You wouldn't you wouldn't
Speaker 1: look because you knew you would look. I wouldn't. I wouldn't,
Speaker 1: I said, I don't want to. I felt like it
Speaker 1: was his faulted bomb. You kind of bailed a point.
Speaker 1: I'm kidding. I'm kidding. You know you didn't bail. I'm kidding,
Speaker 1: I'm genuinely, I'm hurt. Bail. There's nothing to bail on
Speaker 1: any week, I would write with you, well, let's do
Speaker 1: it this this well, well, I would assume you guys
Speaker 1: write together all the time. You don't we should we should?
Speaker 1: It just depends, but would make the weird No, it wouldn't.
Speaker 1: What I sometimes think is like people, I'm gonna say
Speaker 1: no because since you said, I can't stop thinking. I
Speaker 1: kind of think people are like, okay, guys cute like
Speaker 1: that's but like not ill intended. I don't think they're
Speaker 1: ill intended in and I don't genuinely don't think they
Speaker 1: think about us a ton, but I do think when
Speaker 1: it's like, all right, we're about to do a two hander,
Speaker 1: they're like, okay, king this king, I don't know, but
Speaker 1: it's like what you said, It's like it's yeah, I
Speaker 1: don't think that's No. One's like rooting against us. They
Speaker 1: just feel you feel that they're over it. Feel like
Speaker 1: we've seen it. We know, we know, yeah, but we
Speaker 1: the audience needs to know. I'm an audience and I
Speaker 1: have to say something. I don't feel like SNL caters
Speaker 1: to me as an audience. That I don't think they do.
Speaker 1: I think whenever you guys are in pieces, they're catering
Speaker 1: to me. But but other than that, I don't know. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, listen, let's try to write together some more.
Speaker 1: People are like I think we just we got to
Speaker 1: keep repeating it until it breaks. You need to do
Speaker 1: this sketch every week. You need to bring us to
Speaker 1: the table every week and make it a thing. I'm sorry.
Speaker 1: I feel like we need an intimacy coordinator in this
Speaker 1: room because I do feel very vulnerable that we read that.
Speaker 1: I do. While we were half okay, thank you, I
Speaker 1: want halfway through you know, I was, I was laughing.
Speaker 1: He was laughing halfway through and we were all laughing.
Speaker 1: But halfway through, I was like, we didn't ask Will,
Speaker 1: but I don't think we'll take No, He's fine, Will
Speaker 1: will it. Will doesn't care. He's gonna love it. The
Speaker 1: sketch got performed on Lost Culture. It went, it went,
Speaker 1: It went. It went as the sketch went, sketch went,
Speaker 1: it's going, it went, it went, And tell us what
Speaker 1: you think about it and they will, Yeah, yeah, they will.
Speaker 1: We love Will anyway. How do you feel? I think
Speaker 1: you feel hangover, honorable, but I feel alive. I felt
Speaker 1: I thought this and wait, if we're going to return
Speaker 1: to the topic of was it Sis and Sissy show?
Speaker 1: I think that maybe maybe there might be a moment
Speaker 1: where they said at the top, Sis, I'm nervous. But
Speaker 1: the fact is, it wasn't that. It wasn't that. But
Speaker 1: I also feel like this is just something that like you,
Speaker 1: that I think is very apparent in any kind of performance.
Speaker 1: All it takes is one thing to be a little
Speaker 1: off and then everyone gets nervous. Yeah, yeah, yeah, if
Speaker 1: there are if anything, just it could be the smallest thing.
Speaker 1: So they I don't even think they were open to
Speaker 1: enjoying the rest. I think, what a stupid premise, like
Speaker 1: in a good way, like a stupid silly premise. And
Speaker 1: they I don't know. But also energy at table matters
Speaker 1: because they're like, you can literally submit the same exact
Speaker 1: sketch a year and a half from now. All of
Speaker 1: a sudden, it's like the funniest thing. Well, you know
Speaker 1: what you have to do, just change the name cis
Speaker 1: and do it again next week with Milaney, with Milany.
Speaker 1: Is that? Who think that's timely? That's the time, they comment,
Speaker 1: take that out. No, no, no, no, it's final. Already
Speaker 1: have happened. But it happened, and now and you the
Speaker 1: audience will know if the Cyst and Sisty show or whatever,
Speaker 1: since his name is going to be actually got in.
Speaker 1: I think that you know, John Laney would make an
Speaker 1: absolutely stunning Cody absolutely absolutely What do you think went
Speaker 1: wrong with t s A? Oh my god, this one
Speaker 1: went to dress rehearsals. So Ago and I wrote a
Speaker 1: sketch with Alison Gates Alex English that was around Thanksgiving
Speaker 1: and it was me, don't have to tell, don't tell
Speaker 1: because we might do it one day. Okay, So we're
Speaker 1: not going to read that one. No, no, we're not
Speaker 1: gonna that, We're not. You really are feeling vulnerable. I'm scared.
Speaker 1: All I will say. All I will say is that
Speaker 1: it was a crush or at table. Yes, really crushed. Yes,
Speaker 1: I don't feel any sort of qualms about did a
Speaker 1: great job and then something and then there was just
Speaker 1: a lot of technical there's a lot of business. There
Speaker 1: was a lot of business. Whenever they come to me
Speaker 1: on set and they have a lot of props, I'm like, animize, okay,
Speaker 1: saying with me on sets, I feel like I go
Speaker 1: when they're like and you're gonna start your line here
Speaker 1: and then you're gonna want to land here to finish
Speaker 1: the second part of the line and then you're gonna
Speaker 1: grab and I'm like okay, no, no, now we dance
Speaker 1: in and it's too much. It's landing on a mark,
Speaker 1: one of your skills. They put the tape on the ground,
Speaker 1: and I think I'm getting really good at I think
Speaker 1: I'm getting there. I just I just shot a bunch
Speaker 1: of commercials and it required a lot of like what
Speaker 1: I just described technical technical business dancing and here's this
Speaker 1: and then you're going to do this and I that's
Speaker 1: literally someone tell you what to do yes, and I
Speaker 1: go no. So we were there all day where we
Speaker 1: were fighting back the camera can follow me, Yeah, the
Speaker 1: camera's going to do what I want. But I landed.
Speaker 1: I was getting really good at it. By the end
Speaker 1: of it. I was like the landing on the market,
Speaker 1: not looking down at it and just being like, Okay,
Speaker 1: it feels like it's around, But it's a skill. I'm
Speaker 1: guessing at SNL that's really important. Huh No, not totally,
Speaker 1: Like people try to minimize that on during the blocking process. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and then you're like trying to get to your mark.
Speaker 1: You're also getting to your mark. Oftentimes, I feel like
Speaker 1: when you're not on camera too, So that's true. So
Speaker 1: you have time to set and you're like okay, yep,
Speaker 1: I see it and I was like, easy, Yeah, I
Speaker 1: think it's cute cards and you get to set your mark.
Speaker 1: It's easy, and we work one day a week. Yeah,
Speaker 1: for sure, you work one day a week. They set
Speaker 1: your marks for you have you have minutes to get there.
Speaker 1: You have big que cards with huge legible writing, you
Speaker 1: have amazing professional actors that come into home exactly, exactly
Speaker 1: wait on our last sketch that got cut the last show.
Speaker 1: I like, I feel like a lot of people were
Speaker 1: like fumbling for whatever reason on the on the last show,
Speaker 1: at least during dress. During dress whoever was writing the cards,
Speaker 1: God bless. I don't know, because I know there was
Speaker 1: a word that was totally mushed together, like you know,
Speaker 1: when you're like running out of lines, you go, I
Speaker 1: could just write this, like I can mush it together.
Speaker 1: It's one thing. It's if it's a journal entry, but
Speaker 1: it's a cute card. I was like, I don't know
Speaker 1: what that says. Ed Hidie was in Hidie sketch and
Speaker 1: I said I apologized her after She's like, no, I
Speaker 1: could see the thing you were trying to read. And
Speaker 1: I also was like, what the is she's supposed to read? This?
Speaker 1: Just letters? Mushed together, and I thought, dear God. I
Speaker 1: was like, I cannot read this, but like my line
Speaker 1: is supposed to be such a throwaway. We've been on
Speaker 1: me for way too long. Like I literally I was
Speaker 1: doing and I mean, like this, maybe that word it
Speaker 1: matter ago just read the next word and hope that
Speaker 1: that one word isn't gonna make a break the line.
Speaker 1: I was like, I don't know what that says. It's
Speaker 1: hard and I get nervous. But we've only done it once.
Speaker 1: Because I've only done it. It's to night Show when
Speaker 1: they flipped the card and it goes away so fast.
Speaker 1: And also the thing was it was Bone and I
Speaker 1: doing it together, and so they made it so that
Speaker 1: one of us was read and one of us was green.
Speaker 1: I was like, I have to tell you, girlfriend, I
Speaker 1: don't know the difference between those. And so then that
Speaker 1: was like and then and then they were like, oh, well,
Speaker 1: you should have said that we're gonna have to change it,
Speaker 1: and I'm like, I should have said that. How would
Speaker 1: you have known that that's what was going to happen? Like, hey,
Speaker 1: just so you know, like I'm colorblind, don't pick these
Speaker 1: two colors, like also just pick opposite colors. Yeah, it
Speaker 1: was tonight was a blessed and it comes from the top. Okay,
Speaker 1: and he's a he's attacking Lauren. I'm attacking Lauren. Like
Speaker 1: on the podcast, it comes from the top. It's an
Speaker 1: ablest atmosphere, ablest atmosphere towards the vision. I'd say it is.
Speaker 1: I'd say it is, and it's all I have to
Speaker 1: time in and say, tell you what. Could not read
Speaker 1: those words words and the sketch because it did get cut,
Speaker 1: but it was not because of that. It was such
Speaker 1: a good sketch, but I also didn't want it was.
Speaker 1: It was such a good and funny sketch, but they
Speaker 1: had to change their whole premise also the table Yeah,
Speaker 1: literally because it was like too much penis content in
Speaker 1: this episode. Can you change your entire premise of this?
Speaker 1: And it was like, well, anything they say now is
Speaker 1: just not is funny. Is like he has a weird dick.
Speaker 1: That note is always really frustrating where it's like there's
Speaker 1: too much of this thing, and so you are We've
Speaker 1: chosen you. You're the one that's like you need to
Speaker 1: change it, and I'm like, I but they could change
Speaker 1: that one joke in there's and that other. Do you
Speaker 1: ever think about saying as a false sentence, no, I
Speaker 1: have said no at the workplace I had, I've said it,
Speaker 1: You've said you yourself credit, I've said it. And are
Speaker 1: we going here? Okay, okay, I'm just saying, y'all are
Speaker 1: going in, and I'm ob fest me as a fan upset.
Speaker 1: We are pulling back the curtain. I'm sorry we have.
Speaker 1: We literally read a no that was iconic and show
Speaker 1: is the best thing that's ever Firstly, I think the
Speaker 1: title of the show, we could change it. But I
Speaker 1: do think, like I like the Sistant Sissy Show. Like
Speaker 1: his name is sis Berman, so his full name is
Speaker 1: Sissman Berman. Yeah, I think that's so funny. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: think it is too. I think it's funny too, and
Speaker 1: I'm not and I'm wondering if it should be changed.
Speaker 1: I don't think it should. But wait, you think it's funny.
Speaker 1: I think that's a social experiment. If you came in
Speaker 1: and you said, like, it's the Beavist and Sissy Show
Speaker 1: and then they were just like and they were like,
Speaker 1: oh my god, I fucking loved that. I got it.
Speaker 1: And they didn't get the Sistant Show because they were
Speaker 1: like literally panic because before yeah, and they think it's bad.
Speaker 1: Yeah they did, They're like, what's it's the guilt. The
Speaker 1: guilt will also keep people from laughing. I can say yes, yes,
Speaker 1: black female body, I go, oh, we can laugh about this,
Speaker 1: but you feel guilty and it's barring you. That is
Speaker 1: a stupid thing, right, yeah, it is. It's yeah, it's frustrating. Anyway.
Speaker 1: I think it's time. I think it's time for the
Speaker 1: segment on the podcast called say it with Me, I
Speaker 1: Don't Think so Honey. It's one of the most famous
Speaker 1: segments in pop culture podcast history. The podcast has received
Speaker 1: critical acclaim and been cited in academic work. Matt and
Speaker 1: Bowen will often perform I Don't Think So Honey, a
Speaker 1: segment from the podcast, as a live show all around
Speaker 1: the country, with fifty local comedians each taking to the
Speaker 1: stage to say in one minute, a rant on pop
Speaker 1: culture that successfully ends in the words I don't think
Speaker 1: so honey, and has therefore fully dragged the subject. I
Speaker 1: do have something. Okay, I'm very excited. This is Matt Rodgers.
Speaker 1: I don't think so Many time starts now I don't
Speaker 1: Think so Honey. Thirst traps in the morning when I
Speaker 1: wake up and I look at my phone and I
Speaker 1: see that you've tried. You've tried to put thirst traps
Speaker 1: up in the morning. This keeps me in the bed
Speaker 1: because then I feel like I have to take care
Speaker 1: of business. No thirst traps in the morning, post them
Speaker 1: in the afternoon. I'm trying to get up, get a
Speaker 1: coffee in me and start the day. But when I
Speaker 1: roll over and look at my phone and I see
Speaker 1: thirst traps in the morning, I'm there forty five minutes longer,
Speaker 1: And yes, what are you doing? Just jerking off? Baby?
Speaker 1: I jerk off. I'm a man and I'm thirty one,
Speaker 1: and I jerk off. I do it. I love it,
Speaker 1: but I don't want to do it in the morning
Speaker 1: because then you can't do it at night. And guess
Speaker 1: what not that you can't do it at night, But
Speaker 1: when you get into your thirties, everyone, so it's hard
Speaker 1: to jack off again and again and again and again
Speaker 1: and then be ready to go. And so me, someone
Speaker 1: with a famous lack of self control, don't want to
Speaker 1: see your thirst traps in the morning. And you might say, Matt,
Speaker 1: put your phone away, this is your problem, this is
Speaker 1: not my problem. Sure, but I don't want to take
Speaker 1: responsibility for it, So stop with your hot and little
Speaker 1: sexy thirstraps in the morning. I don't think so, honey,
Speaker 1: get my dick out of my hand. I'm sorry, I
Speaker 1: cut you off. That's okay. On a minute, something happens
Speaker 1: when you're physiologically it's it's as if I'm having sex
Speaker 1: with Ago, because on the third masturbation of the day,
Speaker 1: nothing's coming out. Well, nothing's coming out, And that's what
Speaker 1: it's like to sleep with me, with me, you know,
Speaker 1: with that, if you're sleeping with us, nothing that's coming out.
Speaker 1: You know. The thing is like I I am like
Speaker 1: a horny person in the morning. That's just kind of
Speaker 1: my thing. And when I'm not with anyone else, it
Speaker 1: feels like, am I gonna do this right now? Because
Speaker 1: I'd love to have the juice for later? And I
Speaker 1: often get in trouble for this because out of boredom
Speaker 1: or out of just susceptibility to thirst traps in the morning,
Speaker 1: I will sort of indulge, and then you know, there
Speaker 1: needs to be a way around getting up in the morning. Look, look, look,
Speaker 1: this is a scenario. You get up in the morning
Speaker 1: next to your partner, sure your horn you're both horny. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but morning breath, morning breath. And also for for at
Speaker 1: least I can speak to the for the gay experience,
Speaker 1: it's harder to have sex in the morning. Not that
Speaker 1: you have to, you know, take it up the butt
Speaker 1: as it were, every time you have sex. That's not
Speaker 1: that's not necessarily sex like your sex is your sex.
Speaker 1: But if if if, if the if the mood feels
Speaker 1: the same, that way, been wonderful. But it's just like
Speaker 1: so many things, so much baggage in the morning. But
Speaker 1: I'm that's when I'm so, what's a lot of baggage
Speaker 1: in them? Morning breath? Thing is real, that's real. How
Speaker 1: do we how do we fix that? It's got to
Speaker 1: be like a surgery, surgery or by doing like the
Speaker 1: old like the ladies did in the old days, where
Speaker 1: you creep out of bed in the morning while your
Speaker 1: man is still asleep, and you sort of brush your
Speaker 1: teeth and put a full beat on and you wait
Speaker 1: and you lay in the bed like this. Describe what
Speaker 1: I'm doing. He's laying chin and chin is in the air,
Speaker 1: eyes are closed, kind of coming to slowly. Oh my god,
Speaker 1: some bed. Yeah, lip yes, smiling, winking, really really pointing
Speaker 1: kind of a meet you meet you, okay, blow job
Speaker 1: and then motoro motor mooting something getting a rail putting
Speaker 1: coming something I wanted. I haven't had sex really well, guys,
Speaker 1: slide into bow and there's no one while you're here
Speaker 1: in l A that you can head up. I've been
Speaker 1: too tired. They've been too tired. Alright, time to go,
Speaker 1: do you have? I don't think well, that sounds really
Speaker 1: like a fun idea. All right, so this, honey, his
Speaker 1: time starts now. I don't think so, honey, chrome Cast,
Speaker 1: you're gonna have me in front of some friends I
Speaker 1: have over and make me look like a damn fool
Speaker 1: trying to scrub a dub dub on the episode of
Speaker 1: the thing, the film what have you? And there's always
Speaker 1: the lag, there's always the spinning wheel that's telling you,
Speaker 1: that's laughing at you in the face, saying no, no, no,
Speaker 1: I'm not going to show you where you fast forwarded to.
Speaker 1: Just yet. Let me think for about forty five more seconds. Okay,
Speaker 1: chrome Cast, I feel like you are designed to humiliate
Speaker 1: the user, and that we're we are past that in
Speaker 1: technology right now, and the UI and U X excuse
Speaker 1: orians is to feel humiliated, and I don't want it anymore.
Speaker 1: I want to say no, no crume cast, give me
Speaker 1: an Apple TV and every screen I encounter, give me
Speaker 1: an Apple TV in every hotel I to in my office. Really,
Speaker 1: I need an Apple TV so I can use the
Speaker 1: little gum stick remote to actually have precision control. And
Speaker 1: that's one minute. It really is frustration station when you
Speaker 1: are trying to screen throw screen throw yeah, and then
Speaker 1: you get that that because it's it's false advertising. It's like,
Speaker 1: this is not what's happening on my screen. In fact,
Speaker 1: I don't know. I just think. I just think we're
Speaker 1: being like someone's watching us and laughing at us. God, God,
Speaker 1: or the people in the room, or someone at Google
Speaker 1: is watching us saying spinning their wheels going insanee. I
Speaker 1: have to say, like like when you when you have
Speaker 1: something up there and then like it's going doing the
Speaker 1: stop and start. You miss every joke in a comedic piece,
Speaker 1: you miss every intentional dramatic beats. It's just you can't
Speaker 1: you can't be doing it. I would rather have a
Speaker 1: bunch of people over and we watched something on my
Speaker 1: computer in front of us on the table than to screen,
Speaker 1: throw it up there because it's just it's just wrong.
Speaker 1: It's just wrong, and you're it's just it's just like
Speaker 1: clicking along that line. So awful. Okay, that's it. It's time.
Speaker 1: Any thoughts on chrome Cast before we start. I am
Speaker 1: a neutral party as far as chrome Cast is concerned. However,
Speaker 1: Chromecast has hurt King, and thus now I've got beef
Speaker 1: with chrome Cast. Yeah, your beef is my beef, and
Speaker 1: beef is my beef and my babe. Mean it was.
Speaker 1: People need to know that King is a singer. But
Speaker 1: no am I No? Are you a singer? No? You
Speaker 1: just matched pitch? Oh did I? If? And if you
Speaker 1: match pitch, that means a singer. It's time for ego wodims.
Speaker 1: I don't think so, honey. Okay, I do believe I'm
Speaker 1: red teeth. This is bodis. I don't think so, honey.
Speaker 1: Her time starts now. I don't think so, honey. Asking
Speaker 1: me where I am? You don't need to know where
Speaker 1: I am. Don't ask me where I am. I I'm
Speaker 1: where I'm supposed to be. Where the funk are you
Speaker 1: worry about that? I mean, if you have a question
Speaker 1: and invite you want to send my way. Just do that.
Speaker 1: Just go ahead and do that. Don't ask me where
Speaker 1: I am. That such a business. You're not my parole officer.
Speaker 1: I'm not on parole. There you go. I've still got
Speaker 1: a significant amount of time to pop off about people
Speaker 1: asking me where I am. Don't slide in the d
Speaker 1: M s with it. Don't send a text, don't send
Speaker 1: an email. I actually don't like any of those forms
Speaker 1: of communication as well. But that's not about this right now.
Speaker 1: I'm where I need to be. You send the invitation.
Speaker 1: I could be in bed, I could be in the shower,
Speaker 1: I could be at the gym. I could be at
Speaker 1: your daddy's house. Doesn't matter, doesn't matter what is the
Speaker 1: order of business? What do you need from me? I'm
Speaker 1: allowed to be where I want to be. Where Where
Speaker 1: are you? Is what i'd say? Where are you? You
Speaker 1: are out your damn mind is what it is. Ask
Speaker 1: me where I am? I do not think so, honey, Honestly,
Speaker 1: it is no more rude question than without a hay
Speaker 1: or hello. Just you're looking down at your phone and
Speaker 1: seeing the words where are you? Shut the funk up?
Speaker 1: Are you nuts? You better go fuck yourself? You were
Speaker 1: at my daddy's house. I wasn't your daddy's crib. Okay,
Speaker 1: and listen, context matters, but just a cold where are you? Terrible?
Speaker 1: Never ever ever gonna work for me? So awful, and
Speaker 1: especially when they do where just the letter are? Just
Speaker 1: the letter you? I'm sorry? Do it? Yeah? Are you?
Speaker 1: You're out of your mind? It was where you are?
Speaker 1: That's that's what I have to say about that respectable space.
Speaker 1: You can be where ever you want to be. If
Speaker 1: I have an invitation for your bone, I'm going to
Speaker 1: send you the invitation. If I want you to know
Speaker 1: where I am, I will give you the drop pit. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I will drop the adie and drop the addie, share
Speaker 1: the location. Shit, Yeah, where am I? Where am I?
Speaker 1: You know what's a good way to go about this? Hey? Yes, okay,
Speaker 1: and then be like I was wondering what you were doing.
Speaker 1: I'm here. Now we have some common ground. Now we
Speaker 1: can start a conversation. Don't command any information for me. No,
Speaker 1: it's not okay, because you're going to take where I
Speaker 1: am to mean that means I'm available or I'm into
Speaker 1: whatever you're about to pitch me. Just give me the
Speaker 1: information and they're allowed to decide also where are you?
Speaker 1: Sort of there's something in it that that says you're
Speaker 1: not You're not where you're supposed to be. Like when
Speaker 1: I get a Texas is where are you? I'm like,
Speaker 1: am I supposed to be somewhere else? Yeah? No, no,
Speaker 1: And that's it's it's so stressful. It's like, let's say that,
Speaker 1: it's like the equipment of like we need to talk
Speaker 1: and I love to send we need to talk text
Speaker 1: to my friend as a joke, as a joke. That
Speaker 1: is actually no, King, that's not accepted. No, I don't, no, no,
Speaker 1: it's acceptable's except because he knows I never have to
Speaker 1: talk to But what about when you actually need to
Speaker 1: talk to them? I'll just say, hey, I'd love to
Speaker 1: your boyfriend. No, no, no, my friend. I don't do
Speaker 1: it to my boyfriend. My boyfriend would truly be like
Speaker 1: we need to do that with your end the bit
Speaker 1: with my friend my friend Patrick, I do this bit
Speaker 1: we need to talk, period. I've sent him that text
Speaker 1: multiple times. What about when you actually need to talk
Speaker 1: to him? I'm sorry, But if I actually need to
Speaker 1: talk to Patrick, I'll just call I'll just call her,
Speaker 1: I'll text you know what I say I'll say the
Speaker 1: thing what else I hate that when I talk about
Speaker 1: it is just when you get a random text that's
Speaker 1: just hey and nothing else. No, they both hands up
Speaker 1: at the same time. They threw their hands at the
Speaker 1: same time. But I feel on that not hey hey,
Speaker 1: and then you're like, um, hi, even because it's such
Speaker 1: an easy because even like even just saying like hey,
Speaker 1: what's up? Like hey, like hey, thinking of just hey,
Speaker 1: I'm just like there's there's there's like a bit of
Speaker 1: a sociopathy to that. I would say, like, hey, but
Speaker 1: where thank you for starting this conversation on where are you?
Speaker 1: Because it you know, what else it is is not
Speaker 1: only do you have to give them the answer or
Speaker 1: do they expect you to give them the answer on
Speaker 1: like a location, but then you kind of have to
Speaker 1: give the story behind it. I'm at this place because
Speaker 1: of this reason. Sure, yeah, because yeah, you're sort of like,
Speaker 1: are you okay? Are you trying to invite me to somewhere?
Speaker 1: Am I somewhere? I'm I'm not supposed to be right now,
Speaker 1: But it's like you have information you want, but you
Speaker 1: want to have the upper hand here by the first
Speaker 1: hearing where I am and I just answer to you
Speaker 1: like you're my mother or something, and I don't have
Speaker 1: to do that. I'm going to text you that every week.
Speaker 1: Where are you? Where are you? Where are you? But
Speaker 1: you guys have a reason to do because you're at
Speaker 1: work together, like, hey, where are you? Like that's exactly
Speaker 1: I'm like. There are versions of like you wanting to
Speaker 1: give me something, or I've wanted to hand something over
Speaker 1: to you and gone to your dressing room you're not there.
Speaker 1: It might be like, hey, where are you? But I
Speaker 1: also would probably be like probably I can't say with
Speaker 1: full certainty, be like I have something like like and
Speaker 1: literally I've done this so many times where I've gone
Speaker 1: over to your dressing room, knocked on your door, no answer.
Speaker 1: I just walk away. I'll get her later. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: wait a minute. You gave me a gift. No, I did,
Speaker 1: and I opened it and I was so happy to
Speaker 1: get it. It was truly it was boy Smells candles
Speaker 1: from their collection, and I freaked. I was like, oh
Speaker 1: my god, thank you so and then you this is
Speaker 1: what you said. You remember you said? What did I say?
Speaker 1: You don't have to pretend to like I was like,
Speaker 1: I'm not pretending candles are my favorite. They gave me
Speaker 1: a gift. Got can I say, say, Bowen got two
Speaker 1: thera guns? Got one? Wait, you gave me your? I
Speaker 1: did the same. You get you gave the extra theragon
Speaker 1: we got to Ego. Okay, I'm calling you out. I
Speaker 1: did the same thing to Joel. No, no, no, this
Speaker 1: is what happened. Yes, yes, I show up to work
Speaker 1: one day and there's a thera gun. The first of all,
Speaker 1: they gave everybody a their like a mini theragun for Christmas. Sure,
Speaker 1: I can give you mine, let me have that one,
Speaker 1: but let me have that one. Eighty wouldn't mind if
Speaker 1: I said this. Eighty and nine both got these special
Speaker 1: edition gold theraguns with like and with a note saying
Speaker 1: there's only five hundred of these that we make. Guess
Speaker 1: how much it costs man? Two thousand dollars one th dollars.
Speaker 1: That's insane, insane. And I was like, I don't I
Speaker 1: don't want this, But then what do you mean? And
Speaker 1: then so that it was sitting in my dressing room
Speaker 1: for like a full week and a half, and then
Speaker 1: Ago comes and visits me and she goes, she does,
Speaker 1: what's this? It's this crazy? It's something a gift or no,
Speaker 1: it wasn't even know. It was very transparent, like I
Speaker 1: was like, I don't know, like as I guess how
Speaker 1: much this costs King? And she was like uh and
Speaker 1: I think she also said to that prices that pis
Speaker 1: we guess the same price? Yeah. Time. Anyway, I gave
Speaker 1: it to King. But then I was doing I was
Speaker 1: doing a bit where I kept being like, oh, like
Speaker 1: what's like, what's this part in the box? Like oh,
Speaker 1: and I'm like, do you want it back? You want
Speaker 1: to you don't realize that you gave me And he's like, no,
Speaker 1: I'm fine, like a note in it and he's like,
Speaker 1: what's the note saying do you want a thing back?
Speaker 1: And eventually the bit just escalated where I would like
Speaker 1: snatch the box right away, like I'll never see you again. Well,
Speaker 1: Bowen didn't do gifts this year. He no, he let
Speaker 1: me know he wasn't doing Christmas for me. For me, well,
Speaker 1: I don't think I really did give I did I did? Do?
Speaker 1: I mean I the candle candle I did I gave you?
Speaker 1: And hiding the candles, which is so nice look at me,
Speaker 1: But but there is a sent in there that I
Speaker 1: really really loved the blue one. Yeah, yeah, I love
Speaker 1: that sense so much. Um, but I am I go.
Speaker 1: You should be able to go either way. I was
Speaker 1: informed in December from Bible and that I would not
Speaker 1: be getting a gift this year. I didn't say that,
Speaker 1: you did. You told me I didn't get you a
Speaker 1: gift this year. I'm just telling you. And I was like,
Speaker 1: that's fine. I didn't get you anything either. I did. Okay,
Speaker 1: you had gotten him something because oh my god. But
Speaker 1: you know what though, for your birthday, I did send
Speaker 1: you a pair of ear rings and they never got
Speaker 1: to They never got to your apartment. And they were expensive.
Speaker 1: I was really annoyed by that. They were They were
Speaker 1: like Gucci ear rings, and I sent them to you
Speaker 1: and they never got very nice, very nice. That's okay.
Speaker 1: What do you want for your birthday? Um? I want
Speaker 1: a leather jacket. Yeah I have, Okay, just give me mats.
Speaker 1: So what do you want for your birthday? What I
Speaker 1: want for my birthday? He has a great birthday. He has, don't. Oh,
Speaker 1: I'm I'm having a lot of fun on my birthday.
Speaker 1: I'm going to see Katie Perry and Vegas with thousand gays.
Speaker 1: It's gonna be like this to nine. I'm working on that,
Speaker 1: I'm looking on It's gonna be okay, Okay, I love it.
Speaker 1: Thank you for so much for this was King, and
Speaker 1: we talked about intimacy. Yeah, we talked about the business.
Speaker 1: I'm cited in academic work, and talk about rom com aspiration.
Speaker 1: We read a sketch every episode with the song okay
Speaker 1: so nine, I'm look I'm ge