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Speaker 1: Breaking news this afternoon, President Trump pardoning not turkeys via

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Speaker 1: Sound on Bloomberg breaking news. President Trump has pardoned Michael Flynn.

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Speaker 1: She was confirmed in January of two thousand and fourteen.

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Speaker 1: much more. Next with the panel, you're listening to Bloomberg.

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Speaker 1: This is Bloomberg's Sound On with Kevin Surreley on Bloomberg

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Speaker 1: TV and Radio. Joined by an amazing, amazing Thanksgiving Eve

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Speaker 1: panel Richard Fowler, are Democratic insider, Sarah Chamberlin, President CEO

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Speaker 1: because I'm a nerd, and because I can, I just

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Speaker 1: looked up the eleven Republicans who voted to confirm her.

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Speaker 1: Most of them are no longer in office. But here's

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Speaker 1: some interesting facts, because every vote will count when there

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Speaker 1: been widely reported now. Uh. Susan Collins. Susan Collins voted

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Speaker 1: Guests who didn't vote, Lindsay Graham. Lindsay Graham. Oh, guess

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Speaker 1: Jeff Flake voted to supporter Jeff Lake's gone. Uh. Kelly

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Speaker 1: Richard Burr voted a supporter. Richard Burr's gone. I mean

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Speaker 1: it's this is gonna be a fascinating, fascinating dynamic as

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Speaker 1: it emerges. Sarah is actually Richard Burr is still there,

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Speaker 1: Richard Richard. Sorry, Richard, go ahead. But I think you

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Speaker 1: that was supporter you, Lisa Mkowski. I think you. I

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Speaker 1: put her some of them men are going to put

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Speaker 1: get confirmed. Well. And to your point, Murkowski voter for guests.

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Speaker 1: Rob Portman did not vote, so I mean there's another

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Speaker 1: This is just fascinating because you know, I hear this

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Speaker 1: As you know, um, and typically Republicans want to stop

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Speaker 1: to stop. No, I don't think so at all. I

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Speaker 1: so I think they could. I could definitely see a

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Speaker 1: on the issue of fiscal relief. Because if there's one

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Speaker 1: So Sarah Chamberlain. Let me ask you this because it

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Speaker 1: I know my members would like to get it done

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Speaker 1: are our men and women of Main Street stand ready

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Speaker 1: Minution to request back some of the Main Street Lending

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Speaker 1: wasn't surprised that he did that. Um, but you know again,

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Speaker 1: able to do that. All right, Sarah, stay with us, Richards,

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Speaker 1: stay with us. I'll stay with us too. Coming up next,

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Speaker 1: we're gonna check in to see what's on the panel's radar.

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Speaker 1: My name is Kevin CEREALI I'm the chief Washington correspondent

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Speaker 1: for Bloomberg Television and for Bloomberg Radio. Tammy Hadad's gonna

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Speaker 1: join me at the end of the program. Make sure

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Speaker 1: a little Cold Play on Thanksgiving Eve? You know, they

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Speaker 1: also have my favorite Christmas song, Christmas Lights. I've been

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Speaker 1: listening to it since my birthday on November two. You

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Speaker 1: know why, because I can and Kev's birthday is the

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Speaker 1: official start of when you are allowed to listen to

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Speaker 1: holiday music? Am I right? Let's ask the panel Sarah

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Speaker 1: Chamberlain's with us. Sarah, you are the CEO of Main

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Speaker 1: Street GOP, which backs centrist Republicans. Can you listen to

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Speaker 1: Christmas music? When? When is the appropriate time? So my

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Speaker 1: birthday is actually no, that's why. Okay, so it must

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Speaker 1: be a scorpio thing, you know what I'm saying? Like

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Speaker 1: Richard Faller, Democratic Insider, when do you when do you

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Speaker 1: start turning on the holiday the holiday jams? You know what?

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Speaker 1: Whenever you'd like Kevin? And did you tell my boss,

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Speaker 1: Christine Barratto did you hear that? Richard Fowler's saying again

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Speaker 1: for them in the back? Okay, believe it. There he

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Speaker 1: doesn't have to say to it. We all hurt. It's

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Speaker 1: time now for my favorite part of the program, which

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Speaker 1: is what is your favorite thanks Giving dish? Richard Fowler. Oh,

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Speaker 1: it's a tossup between maclony and cheese and potato salad.

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Speaker 1: Do you put hot sauce on your mac and cheese? No,

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Speaker 1: there's no, and the mac and cheese I totally disagree.

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Speaker 1: Hot sauce needs to go on mac and do you

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Speaker 1: want to make me mac and cheese. I'm totally down

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Speaker 1: you want to make If someone wants to make mac

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Speaker 1: and cheese for Kevin, he will eat the mac and cheese,

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Speaker 1: no questions. Asked Sarah Chamberlaine. Your favorite Thanksgiving dish stuffing

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Speaker 1: with a little bit of everything in It's a sausage,

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Speaker 1: just cramberries. Yes, my favorite. I couldn't agree with you more.

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Speaker 1: I love me some mashed potatoes. And because I'm doing

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Speaker 1: the whole socially distant thing, I'm not gonna get to

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Speaker 1: get my aunt sUAS mashed potatoes. And I always text

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Speaker 1: her every year please bring tupper were so that I

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Speaker 1: could have some of the leftover mashed potatoes. And my

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Speaker 1: mom would always give us the Linvilla Orchard pies. So

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Speaker 1: I'm to miss it, but I'll just eat double next year.

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Speaker 1: Now it's time for my second part, favorite part of

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Speaker 1: the program, which is what is on the panel's radar? Richard?

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Speaker 1: What's on your radar? Look? I mean, I think you

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Speaker 1: know there's a couple of things I'm watching. I'm obviously

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Speaker 1: watching some of these very tragic COVID numbers continue to

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Speaker 1: inchop and I want to see you know. Also, I

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Speaker 1: mean think Biden has a lot more announcements to make.

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Speaker 1: Who's going to be a HHS secretary, um the person

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Speaker 1: that will likely be sort of the person the four

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Speaker 1: of the fore runner around how they how we deal

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Speaker 1: with the vaccine and vaccine distribution. So I think that's

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Speaker 1: through my mind. That was both of some my radar

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Speaker 1: right now. And we should note that, uh, the Trump

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Speaker 1: administration did have a transition meeting with the Biden transition

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Speaker 1: team on the issue of Operation Warp speed and vaccination deployment.

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Speaker 1: We should note, just diving into my Bloomberg, terminal infection

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Speaker 1: rates are accelerating, as Richard just alluded to in the

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Speaker 1: Southwest and the Rocky Mountain West. After sweeping through states

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Speaker 1: in the Midwest, a growing number of hospitals canceled or

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Speaker 1: delayed some planned medical procedures to preserve staff and beds.

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Speaker 1: US airline traffic a key indicator throughout the past several

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Speaker 1: months of the spread. US airline traffic rose as some

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Speaker 1: Americans traveled for Thanksgiving despite warnings from health officials. The

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Speaker 1: death toll in the United States nursing homes and long

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Speaker 1: term care facilities topped a hundred thousand. New York State

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Speaker 1: topped six thousand daily cases for the first time since April. Globally,

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Speaker 1: infections now more than sixty million. German Chancellor Angela Merkel

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Speaker 1: extended a partial lockdown for at least three weeks as

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Speaker 1: Europe's biggest economy struggles to regain control of the virus. Okay, Sarah,

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Speaker 1: hopefully you have something more optimistic that's on your radar.

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Speaker 1: What's on your radar, of course the virus, but also UM,

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Speaker 1: Georgia and did the suburban women come out and vote GOP? UM?

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Speaker 1: I think they will because they voted against Trump. They

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Speaker 1: didn't necessarily vote against the GOP. And that is why

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Speaker 1: UM Purdue got more vote. UM. John actually fell short.

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Speaker 1: He didn't get as many as Biden did. So George

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Speaker 1: Young finding fascinating because I'm really interested to see where

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Speaker 1: these suburban women go and and on this issue, there's

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Speaker 1: no one better than you. It just so let me

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Speaker 1: ask you this, how can the Republican Party win back

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Speaker 1: and reset for suburban women? Um? And and a new

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Speaker 1: generation of suburban women. We's certainly going to help with

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Speaker 1: Donald Trump leaving this scene. UM, they weren't opposed to

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Speaker 1: Republican policies. They were opposed to the to the tweets

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Speaker 1: and the negativity and all that. But once COVID to

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Speaker 1: an end, for right now, the head, once COVID comes

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Speaker 1: to an end, because obviously this is consuming everything as

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Speaker 1: it should. It's a great tragedy were mass everybody, um,

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Speaker 1: But once we get past that, the way to get

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Speaker 1: the the suburban women is equal pay, cost of healthcare,

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Speaker 1: cost of child care, and access to capital. When I

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Speaker 1: travel the country, these are the top for issues that

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Speaker 1: they're worried about, and they want the Republicans to address this,

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Speaker 1: and that's how we get them back. On the issue

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Speaker 1: of of coronavirus though, uh, you know, I think here

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Speaker 1: in Washington, d C. With new restrictions that Mayor Bowser

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Speaker 1: has imposed over this week, I think this issue came

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Speaker 1: up yesterday on coordination. It's not that people don't believe

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Speaker 1: in the virus or even I don't want to wear

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Speaker 1: a mask, but the issue of coordination and the last

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Speaker 1: minute announcements pertaining to schools, pertaining to to where you

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Speaker 1: can and can't go, whether you can go to church.

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Speaker 1: Is there an issue of coordination Sarah that Republicans can

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Speaker 1: make in the suburbs. Uh, pretty much. The suburbs are

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Speaker 1: already staying home, so they're coordinated within their own areas.

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Speaker 1: So no, I mean the fact that the mayors do

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Speaker 1: these last minute announcements, it's pretty much expected. Um. But

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Speaker 1: but we're dealing in the suburbs. And I can speak

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Speaker 1: from myself as well. I mean, we're dealing with trying

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Speaker 1: to work and trying to educate our kids. I mean,

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Speaker 1: there's so much going on, but most of them, my

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Speaker 1: friends in the suburbs are staying home for Thanksgiving. So

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Speaker 1: you know, as the mayors and the governors announced all

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Speaker 1: of these restrictions, they were already expecting them. Um, So

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Speaker 1: they're trying to stay safe and frankly, just wait for

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Speaker 1: the vaccination. Yeah. I think that's such a great point.

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Speaker 1: And and go ahead, Richard. I mean, I think the

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Speaker 1: Georgia race, while we're also we're paying attention to what

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Speaker 1: suburban women do, I think we're also paying attention to

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Speaker 1: what happens in Atlanta and the county surrounding Atlanta, and

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Speaker 1: do African Americans turnout in the record numbers they did previously.

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Speaker 1: I think Democrats are gonna be wise this time, as

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Speaker 1: they were, um, just a couple of weeks ago in

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Speaker 1: the November elections, sort of follow the Stacy Abrams playbook

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Speaker 1: and all of the you know, the New Georgia projects

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Speaker 1: there and work on turning out the suburb, working on

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Speaker 1: turning off the subcit of Atlanta, working on turnout unlikely

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Speaker 1: African American voters. You saw them start to do that

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Speaker 1: by organizing the music community and this entertainment community of Atlanta.

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Speaker 1: I think you're gonna see a double down effort on

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Speaker 1: at as well as the fact that the vice president

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Speaker 1: is going into the state excuse me, I chance the

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Speaker 1: title is not. The president of the elect is going

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Speaker 1: into the state um to rally supporters and talk about

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Speaker 1: the importance of the Senate. So it's going to be

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Speaker 1: a race to watch. I do think what Republicans have

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Speaker 1: the voter retriction advantage. Democrats have momentum, and they have

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Speaker 1: this rich sort of South Atlanta and it's around the

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Speaker 1: counties around Atlanta base of voters that if they turned

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Speaker 1: them out again, they might be able to capture magic

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Speaker 1: in a bottle a second time. You know, it is

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Speaker 1: this really weird time and during a transition in Washington,

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Speaker 1: where no one knows what to call each other because

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Speaker 1: everyone has a different title. It's it's no one knows.

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Speaker 1: And I forgot about this. I was thinking about this

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Speaker 1: actually when I walked home from work yesterday. I was like,

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Speaker 1: no one, because you never want to be disrespectful to

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Speaker 1: someone's title or what to call them or former incoming

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Speaker 1: out going likely. You know, it's all of the it's

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Speaker 1: all these titles. What's on my radar is all of

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Speaker 1: the data. The data dump that we got today, John

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Speaker 1: This claims surged by the most and more than a month,

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Speaker 1: logging the first back to back increase since July. Above

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Speaker 1: forecast claims in regular state programs increased by thirty thousand

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Speaker 1: to seven hundred and seventy eight thousand in the week

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Speaker 1: that ended November one, and this signals folks that the

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Speaker 1: labor market cracks are expanding as COVID nineteen cases rise

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Speaker 1: across the country. The data underscores the possibility that next

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Speaker 1: week's next week November jobs report will come in much weaker,

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Speaker 1: and already economists are predicting that that job's report next

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Speaker 1: Friday could come in much weaker. The deteriorating labor market

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Speaker 1: may give extra urgency to stimulus discussions in Congress that

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Speaker 1: have largely stalled. Another sign that more stimulus is needed

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Speaker 1: came from personal income data, which showed that incomes declined

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Speaker 1: while spending rows as consumers drew down their savings from

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Speaker 1: earlier government benefits. My thanks and my sincerest happiest of

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Speaker 1: thanksgivings to Sarah Chamberlain, President and CEO of Republican Main

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Speaker 1: Street Partnership, which promotes centrist Republicans, and Richard Fowler, Mac

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Speaker 1: and Cheese chef and nationally syndicated radio show host and

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Speaker 1: a Fox News contributor, as well as a Democratic insider.

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Speaker 1: My name is Kevin Cirelli, Chief Washington correspondent for Bloomberg

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Speaker 1: Television and for Bloomberg Radio. Coming up next, Tammy Hadad.

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Speaker 1: What's on TAM's radar this Thanksgiving Eve? You're listening to Bloomberg?

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Speaker 1: My name is Kevin Cerelli on the chief Washington correspondent

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Speaker 1: for Bloomberg Television and for Bloomberg Radio. Congratulations to Matt Shirley.

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Speaker 1: Uncle Matt, he became an uncle earlier today. Our sincerest

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Speaker 1: sinceris congratulations to uncle. Congrats on your new niece joining

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Speaker 1: us on the telephone line is Tammy had At. She

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Speaker 1: is CEO of had Ad Media, and we gotta get

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Speaker 1: on this Thanksgiving Eve. What is on TAM's radar? I

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Speaker 1: said to the crew, I said, we gotta do a

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Speaker 1: Tammy segment on Thanksgiving Eve, and it's gonna become a

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Speaker 1: thing because she used to. Actually, I don't think people

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Speaker 1: know this about Tammy had Ad, She, in addition to

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Speaker 1: her many rules roles throughout town as a producer with MSNBC,

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Speaker 1: executive producing with um MSNBC, as well as The Today's Show,

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Speaker 1: Everything uh, the Late Show or the Tonight Show, one

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Speaker 1: of the She's done it all uh And of course

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Speaker 1: everyone knows her in in Washington, d C. She actually

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Speaker 1: got her start outside of Pittsburgh k d K A

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Speaker 1: Larry K the legendary. Who's the next Larry King? Tam, Wow,

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Speaker 1: that's a big question. I thought we were going to

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Speaker 1: start off with who is the next White House Press Secretary?

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Speaker 1: Because you know, there's a real push keV. I like

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Speaker 1: the idea of a Kevin Press secretary answer my quess Kebs,

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Speaker 1: will President Biden do blah blah blah. But you know,

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Speaker 1: in all seriousness, you could be a friends and colleagues,

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Speaker 1: And I want to ask you first who, if you

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Speaker 1: know our colleagues so well, who do you think would

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Speaker 1: make the best press secretary if they pull amongst our ranks.

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Speaker 1: I think that based upon my reporting, I can tell

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Speaker 1: you Simone Sanders has a has a really good shot. Obviously,

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Speaker 1: Kate Bettingfield UH will will be some type of senior

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Speaker 1: advisor role, but I think Simone Sanders behind the podium

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Speaker 1: has a really strong shot. Jensaki is clearly She's been

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Speaker 1: a frequent guest on this program. She was previously the

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Speaker 1: spokesperson at the State's Department before becoming UH spokesperson for

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Speaker 1: now former President Obama. But all of those names are

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Speaker 1: in the mix. But I think Simone Sanders could be

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Speaker 1: behind the podium. I'm interested to see if ned Price

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Speaker 1: gets behind the podium at the State's Apartment from blankeln Oh,

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Speaker 1: that's yeah, I hear's that, But I'm talking about reporters. Okay,

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Speaker 1: here's mine here. I agree with you all. Everyone you've

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Speaker 1: mentioned trouble Tammy, go ahead. Um, here's who I think

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Speaker 1: might be interesting. Brianna Keeler over at CNN. Right, it's

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Speaker 1: done incredible work. Maybe Nicole Wallace wants to make a return.

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Speaker 1: How about your former colleague Stephanie Rule bring her in there.

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Speaker 1: I mean, you know, it's an interesting idea that they're

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Speaker 1: even thinking about. In addition to the people you met,

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Speaker 1: you mentioned um actual reporter to bring him inside. Do

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Speaker 1: you know who I would like? Caitlin Collins? Can you

856
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Speaker 1: imagine her yelling back at reporters or Jim Acosta? Yeah,

857
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Speaker 1: Jim Acosta, Yeah, I don't know. He's he's anchoring on

858
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Speaker 1: CNN this afternoon. I think he's very happy to be

859
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Speaker 1: sitting in, you know, wolf seat for the night welling

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Speaker 1: about did you watch them? Did you watch President elect

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Speaker 1: A Biden speech this afternoon? He gave this very somber,

862
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Speaker 1: very serious address message for Thanksgiving was beautiful, but um,

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Speaker 1: it reminded me of President Reagan. And you know, as

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Speaker 1: you think about all these presidents, right and we're watching

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Speaker 1: Barack Obama promoting him bout his book and hearing a

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Speaker 1: lot from him, is you know, but Ronald Reagan, way

867
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Speaker 1: before you were born, he was sort of like the

868
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Speaker 1: daddy president. He was the guy that was going to

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Speaker 1: take care of that briefing. He's going to take care

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Speaker 1: of you he's entertaining, you know. And then of course

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Speaker 1: President Trump was a disruptor, right did I say that

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Speaker 1: was a disruptor? Is a disruptor? Right? But um, I

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Speaker 1: don't know. Biden might be more of like a daddy figure.

874
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Speaker 1: What do you think? I don't think that on Turkey Eve,

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Speaker 1: I should refer to the president elect with that uh

876
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Speaker 1: name while I am on air. So I am going

877
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Speaker 1: to continue to take your test, which I know you

878
00:51:01,440 --> 00:51:05,400
Speaker 1: are testing me right now, and I am going to

879
00:51:05,560 --> 00:51:10,399
Speaker 1: talk through stoically without showing emotion. How about that? See,

880
00:51:10,440 --> 00:51:13,240
Speaker 1: haven't I learned a lot in five years? Tim? Honest

881
00:51:13,280 --> 00:51:16,719
Speaker 1: to god, it is just unbelievable. And and I love

882
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Speaker 1: the fact that you have a nice Arab lady on

883
00:51:19,880 --> 00:51:23,759
Speaker 1: your Italian show. I mean I really appreciate that. And

884
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Speaker 1: as you know, I don't cook at all, but you

885
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Speaker 1: haven't asked me what we're serving for. Well, okay, now

886
00:51:28,640 --> 00:51:30,719
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go to very because I have to get

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Speaker 1: to some type of policy before this interview goes off

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Speaker 1: the rails. But for for me, but quickly favorite. Okay,

889
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Speaker 1: this is what we call the speed round Favorite Thanksgiving

890
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Speaker 1: side dish. I'm sorry that someone trying to call me

891
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Speaker 1: favorite Thanksgiving what side dish? Oh side dist Oh that's

892
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Speaker 1: easy stuffing. I'm with I'm with Sarah. Okay, I'm a

893
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Speaker 1: mashed potato person um and favorite part of the turkey.

894
00:51:56,239 --> 00:52:01,160
Speaker 1: Oh boy, that's tough. I like the breast me. To

895
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Speaker 1: be honest with you, I'll eat any part of it.

896
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Speaker 1: But see you can't. Here's what you got it all

897
00:52:05,560 --> 00:52:08,560
Speaker 1: wrong kind of storry. You can't have to mashed potatoes

898
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Speaker 1: without the stuffing in the gravy because otherwise it's just

899
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Speaker 1: mashed potatoes and I not. And Sua has the best

900
00:52:16,360 --> 00:52:18,480
Speaker 1: mashed potatoes. But go ahead, she can put that in

901
00:52:18,560 --> 00:52:21,640
Speaker 1: as many you know, rubber main containers as she can.

902
00:52:21,719 --> 00:52:23,880
Speaker 1: But if it's not crazy gravy on top, take at

903
00:52:23,920 --> 00:52:30,440
Speaker 1: home okay. And favorite pie, oh pumpkin, although we have

904
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Speaker 1: to say on Thanksgiving pecan pie might actually get ahead.

905
00:52:35,560 --> 00:52:37,239
Speaker 1: It is so I know, it's like the one time

906
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Speaker 1: of the year that everyone gets at the Caampie. Okay,

907
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Speaker 1: favorite Trent. Okay, let's go, what's on your radar in

908
00:52:41,960 --> 00:52:45,520
Speaker 1: the media. So what's on your media radar? Well, I'm

909
00:52:45,600 --> 00:52:49,319
Speaker 1: very concerned about all my colleagues in news because it's

910
00:52:49,440 --> 00:52:51,400
Speaker 1: clear and we're seeing a little bit of it that

911
00:52:51,520 --> 00:52:55,920
Speaker 1: there's gonna be layoffs, there's gonna be uh, you know, restructuring,

912
00:52:56,080 --> 00:52:58,440
Speaker 1: because you know, almost all the people we know and

913
00:52:58,560 --> 00:53:01,799
Speaker 1: love are at home and they're discovering that they don't

914
00:53:01,840 --> 00:53:04,520
Speaker 1: need as many producers, they don't need as many graphics,

915
00:53:04,600 --> 00:53:07,960
Speaker 1: don't's many camerament. So I'm a little nervous about that.

916
00:53:08,360 --> 00:53:11,120
Speaker 1: And then the other thing is the whole pundit class

917
00:53:11,280 --> 00:53:16,080
Speaker 1: that always expands, always really expensive, is supersize this election

918
00:53:16,640 --> 00:53:18,439
Speaker 1: that's going to go down. And you know, people look

919
00:53:18,480 --> 00:53:20,800
Speaker 1: and you know they question the pundits, but it's a

920
00:53:20,920 --> 00:53:24,400
Speaker 1: dramatic salary difference. If you're a print reporter and you

921
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Speaker 1: make a deal with one of the networks or Bloomberg

922
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Speaker 1: or whatever, and you've got extra money in your pocket,

923
00:53:30,120 --> 00:53:32,840
Speaker 1: that's not a small thing, right, So I think that,

924
00:53:33,360 --> 00:53:36,719
Speaker 1: you know, and maybe it sounds too lighthearted to talk

925
00:53:36,760 --> 00:53:40,080
Speaker 1: about that was as you were talking about these unemployment numbers,

926
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Speaker 1: but it is. They're not going to be unemployed, but

927
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Speaker 1: it's gonna be a significant hit. And then the questionable

928
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Speaker 1: will it matter at all? Right? I mean, it doesn't

929
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Speaker 1: matter to a viewer because really, what we're doing is

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Speaker 1: serving the viewer and the listener. That's that's the job

931
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Speaker 1: that people do. People are people willing to get on

932
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Speaker 1: air for free, you know, I mean, and I think

933
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Speaker 1: that's the the Yes, Yeah, you and I. You and

934
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Speaker 1: I both know that if there's it's Washington, there's a

935
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Speaker 1: microphone you'll find and a camera you'll find everyone the

936
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Speaker 1: shortest distance. And I also think there's something else. I mean,

937
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Speaker 1: I have real respect for our colleague, and you kindly

938
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Speaker 1: come on Cretive Ancestra and show full Court Press her

939
00:54:15,719 --> 00:54:19,600
Speaker 1: Sunday show. Of course, I'll yes, you are and you

940
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Speaker 1: and we're thrilled to have you. And here's the thing. It's,

941
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Speaker 1: you know, you work very hard all weeks so to

942
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Speaker 1: have that expertise and to be able to deliver it

943
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Speaker 1: in you know, two to five minutes or eight minutes

944
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Speaker 1: whatever it is, is something that takes a lot of

945
00:54:33,360 --> 00:54:36,319
Speaker 1: skill and it takes a lot of time to learn

946
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Speaker 1: all of that. So I'm really that's why I'm so

947
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Speaker 1: nervous about it, because I know people have worked really

948
00:54:42,239 --> 00:54:44,080
Speaker 1: hard to get here and no one's had a break.

949
00:54:44,120 --> 00:54:45,560
Speaker 1: Are you going to get a break? Well? Do you

950
00:54:45,640 --> 00:54:48,640
Speaker 1: think reporters will get a break? Before Biden is up

951
00:54:48,680 --> 00:54:50,600
Speaker 1: and running. I'm gonna tell you know this. I love

952
00:54:50,680 --> 00:54:52,200
Speaker 1: to work. I'm not even just saying this, it's it's

953
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Speaker 1: just for me. It would be weird if I didn't work.

954
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Speaker 1: So as long as I can work, I'm happy. But

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Speaker 1: nothing about me. Let me ask you one more thing,

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Speaker 1: because I got a minute left with you, and I

957
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Speaker 1: do want to get the US your d C business

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00:55:01,719 --> 00:55:04,160
Speaker 1: philanthropy trend. I know you and I are both huge

959
00:55:04,200 --> 00:55:06,319
Speaker 1: fans of dog Tag Bakery and our friends of dog

960
00:55:06,360 --> 00:55:08,840
Speaker 1: Tag Bakery and Georgetown dog Tag Bakery. What else are

961
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Speaker 1: you noticing as a trend tammy on that front. Well,

962
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Speaker 1: it's funny you should say that, because I think one

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00:55:14,560 --> 00:55:17,560
Speaker 1: of the most important things is that we're going to

964
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Speaker 1: see a lot more a thrill philanthropic ventures. People are

965
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Speaker 1: working really hard, whether it's food banks or developing new

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Speaker 1: ways to actually, you know, debt food to people or

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Speaker 1: get information contact tracing. So we're going to see a

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Speaker 1: lot of that. But let's be honest, nothing can be

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Speaker 1: Connie's Brownies tag Bakery. You'll never go to another place,

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Speaker 1: no matter who they support, You'll go to Connie's for

971
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Speaker 1: the brownies. Well right, all right, I'll see a dog

972
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Speaker 1: tag this weekend. We'll got some coffee and will laugh.

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Speaker 1: We'll laugh. Tammy hadd who needs an agent? I got

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Speaker 1: Tam Tammy, thank you, thank you so much. My friend.

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Speaker 1: That's Tammy had Ad, the Tammy had Ad. I'm Kevin's

976
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Speaker 1: really happy, happy, happy Thanksgiving. I'm incredibly thankful, incredibly grateful,

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Speaker 1: Thank you, and I'll check back in with you on Monday.

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Speaker 1: I'm Kevin, sirlely, this is Bloomberg nine h