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Speaker 1: Order a Fresh show. It's all right, the honorable kik Elikue.

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Speaker 1: Judge Kiki.

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Speaker 3: Yes, let's get in the courtroom. The gabble has been hit,

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Speaker 3: all right.

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Speaker 4: It says, hey, kikey am I wrong for dating my

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Speaker 4: best friends X after.

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Speaker 3: She dumped him.

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Speaker 4: My name is Danielle and I've been best friends with

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Speaker 4: Teagan since childhood. Teagan started dating Carter in high school

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Speaker 4: and they were on and off for eight years. However,

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Speaker 4: last year, out of nowhere, Teagan said she was no

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Speaker 4: longer attracted to Carter. She dumped him and said she

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Speaker 4: wanted to experience life who.

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Speaker 3: Her exact words.

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Speaker 4: Were, if he dates someone else tomorrow, good for him.

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Speaker 4: So Carter took the break up really hard, and he

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Speaker 4: started reaching out to me because he felt like I

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Speaker 4: knew them both really well. I was just being nice

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Speaker 4: and supporting him until we accidentally slept together.

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Speaker 2: Okay, after that, very supportive process.

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Speaker 4: That Okay, After that, we realized that we had real

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Speaker 4: chemistry and we started secretly dating. A few months later.

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Speaker 4: Now we're expecting a baby. So last week I finally

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Speaker 4: broke the news to Teagan, and to my surprise, she

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Speaker 4: lost it on me. She accused me of waiting years

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Speaker 4: for my turn with him, and I had to quickly

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Speaker 4: remind her that she dumped him. Now she's telling everyone

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Speaker 4: that I trapped Tim and stole her future, and half

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Speaker 4: of our friends won't talk to me.

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Speaker 3: Am I wrong stole her future?

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Speaker 1: She dumped him?

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Speaker 3: She did dump him, she did, however for it. What

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Speaker 3: what are you doing with my ex? Like that should

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Speaker 3: be off limits?

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Speaker 4: Girl called one on one like there are a lot

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Speaker 4: of people in this world.

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Speaker 3: How did you end up with my man? I mean,

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Speaker 3: well my ex?

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Speaker 4: You know, Yes, I gave him back to the streets,

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Speaker 4: but that didn't mean for you to go have a

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Speaker 4: baby with him.

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Speaker 5: She's in the streets and running a baby.

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Speaker 2: Wait what was her quote again? He can date anybody

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Speaker 2: he wants, No, she said, if he.

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Speaker 4: Dates someone else tomorrow, good for him. But that doesn't

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Speaker 4: mean I want him to date my best friend somebody.

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Speaker 3: Oh no, he's the loyalty in the room here. That's

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Speaker 3: absolutely insane.

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Speaker 6: It's like that's to call the cops, report her right online,

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Speaker 6: a smear campaign to cancel her.

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Speaker 2: Hold on, hold on, you got jury in the room

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Speaker 2: and of course at home eatee five five five nine

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Speaker 2: one three five. I would not like this at all.

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Speaker 2: But and if it was a very good close friend

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Speaker 2: of mine, then I guess I would hope that they

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Speaker 2: could see from my perspective why the relationship didn't work out,

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Speaker 2: and maybe that would not be something they would want

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Speaker 2: to engage in. And and yes, there is such a

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Speaker 2: thing as loyalty. I get that. But like you do

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Speaker 2: run the risk when you dump someone of them meeting

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Speaker 2: someone you know and dating them.

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Speaker 1: I mean, you don't.

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Speaker 2: Unfortunately, when you break up with someone, you don't get

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Speaker 2: to control their actions for the rest of their life.

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Speaker 2: And and yeah, you may have lost a friend in

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Speaker 2: the deal, but like, I don't know that anyone actually

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Speaker 2: did anything wrong.

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Speaker 3: Here, Fred, I am shocked.

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Speaker 1: Now I wouldn't mind. You don't have to like it, Kiki.

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Speaker 2: There's a difference between not liking something someone did and

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Speaker 2: it being wrong.

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Speaker 3: Well that's true, but you know, if I don't like

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Speaker 3: it is wrong.

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Speaker 4: They've been friend since childhood, So yes, if you if

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Speaker 4: you end up with the girl that we had science

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Speaker 4: class with, okay, but my childhood best friend. You're dating

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Speaker 4: my ex and we were together for eight years?

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Speaker 3: What are you doing?

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Speaker 4: Like I feel like, come on, girl, there has to

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Speaker 4: be some type of loyalty. And now you're having this

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Speaker 4: man's baby, Like what.

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's that great?

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Speaker 5: She said she wasn't attracted to him anymore, Like what

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Speaker 5: does it matter? Maybe they're meant to be together and

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Speaker 5: it started in high school. Like I know, there are

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Speaker 5: exceptions to the rule, but like high school relationships, like

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Speaker 5: come on, oh.

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Speaker 2: My god, I when you just don't get to control

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Speaker 2: people once you break up with them, unfortunately, you know.

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Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, I think it's not ideal, but like

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Speaker 2: you don't get to say if if you don't want

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Speaker 2: that's their right. And and I look, I think if

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Speaker 2: the girl were like, well, we should still be best

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Speaker 2: friends or I don't know why you have an issue

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Speaker 2: with it.

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Speaker 1: I mean she can have an issue with it. But

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Speaker 1: like I'm you know, sir, how you doing, Sarah, Welcome

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Speaker 1: to the show. Good morning, good morning, Good morning.

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Speaker 7: Man. That's that's a number that's negative. Ain't no way,

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Speaker 7: that's cool, Like that's that's kind of like a guy

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Speaker 7: go to Now if she was mine, bro, come on

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Speaker 7: it we out limits. We're not talking no more.

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Speaker 2: But listen to your listen to you man, Like like

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Speaker 2: it's this ownership things like you don't want to be

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Speaker 2: with someone, why do you care if somebody else does?

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Speaker 7: Yeah, but if you my partner, if you my bro

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Speaker 7: to go behind you, I cannot do that.

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Speaker 1: That's look, I'm a I'm a loyal guy.

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Speaker 2: I Am not going to go out and date my

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Speaker 2: best friend's you know, ex wife or whatever. But I

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Speaker 2: think it says something about the friendship, and it might

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Speaker 2: say something about you if some one chooses your ex

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Speaker 2: over you.

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Speaker 1: Why are we not flipping this at all?

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Speaker 2: Why are we not looking at this from the other

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Speaker 2: perspective for one second. What if what if this girl

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Speaker 2: was kind of nutty the whole time, and like it

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Speaker 2: came down to, look, i'm your friend, but I don't

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Speaker 2: I don't like your behavior here, and I think he

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Speaker 2: was a decent guy. And then what if they go

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Speaker 2: off and have a nice life together. Yes, you lost

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Speaker 2: a friend in the process, but it's your life.

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Speaker 7: I mean, it's true. Everybody got their own life to live.

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Speaker 7: I'm not taking out of this. But at the end of.

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Speaker 8: The day, we played in it shame together, right, no flipping,

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Speaker 8: no turning. Now we're gonna always go right right, that's right.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I hear. No, I thank you, sir, have a

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Speaker 1: good day. I think.

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Speaker 9: Wow.

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Speaker 2: And from the other side, I mean, I'll advocate the

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Speaker 2: other perspective for just a second. Maybe this person was

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Speaker 2: not that great of a friend anyway, clearly, you know,

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Speaker 2: maybe maybe maybe this person was not really your your

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Speaker 2: patna as as sir would say. And and so you

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Speaker 2: know what, that person's gone, This person that wasn't all

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Speaker 2: that loyal to you is gone. Let them have it,

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Speaker 2: Let them, Paulina, let them.

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Speaker 1: Hey, mel Robbins, I'm on this one.

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Speaker 3: I can't let.

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Speaker 9: Them because at the end of the day, like I

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Speaker 9: have history with this person, and.

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Speaker 3: Then that's my best friend. There's enough fish in the sea, Okay,

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Speaker 3: there's enough out there. You don't have to take mine,

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Speaker 3: even though he's not mine no more.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, people are really upset it. It's the idea of

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Speaker 2: controlling other people that I don't like.

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Speaker 1: It's it.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I would not like this person that's not yours,

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Speaker 2: and that's what that person is. Not my friend, that person,

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Speaker 2: that person should not be. We should not be as

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Speaker 2: invested in one another as we are if they're going

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Speaker 2: to do if they're going to do that. But I

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Speaker 2: really don't like the idea that everybody I've ever touched

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Speaker 1: I just I don't I don't like. I don't like

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Speaker 1: the way that feels.

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Speaker 4: This is your childhood best friend, okay, And first of all,

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Speaker 4: when we broke up, you shouldn't even be talking to

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Speaker 4: him anymore after that?

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Speaker 9: What is she.

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Speaker 3: Consoling him for?

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Speaker 4: I hear, I knew, well, what the hell all my

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Speaker 4: friends know when they break up with that man? I

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Speaker 4: know I don't know him. He can't run up to

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Speaker 4: me in the streets like no We're good. I don't

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Speaker 4: even talk to you.

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Speaker 1: After lindsay how are you doing? Lindsay good?

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Speaker 7: How are you guys?

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Speaker 10: Hi?

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Speaker 1: What did you want to say?

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Speaker 2: Welcome? Do you take it away Kiki's court? But this

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Speaker 2: is a situation of a best friend winding up with

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Speaker 2: an ex that that was discarded. I think we all

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Speaker 2: agree that, Yeah, the primary friend discarded this person, and

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Speaker 2: the best friend wound up having a kid with him.

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Speaker 1: What do you think?

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Speaker 9: I think it's it's not right girl code one on one.

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Speaker 6: I actually was in the same situation h after I

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Speaker 6: graduated high school, and I am no longer best friends

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Speaker 6: with her.

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Speaker 3: I'm sorry, Wow, are they still together?

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Speaker 9: Oh?

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Speaker 3: No, No, it was a fling exactly.

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Speaker 2: But I keep coming back to you that's very hurtful.

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Speaker 2: But like, this is a person that you I guess,

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Speaker 2: let's just let's say that this person, I mean, so,

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Speaker 2: she's not that good of a friend to you anyway,

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Speaker 2: and she wants to be with your Actually you don't like,

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Speaker 2: so goodbye to both of them, I guess. I mean,

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Speaker 2: I'm not saying it doesn't hurt, But what I'm saying

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Speaker 2: to you is, what is the point in dwelling on it?

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Speaker 2: Or harboring any sort of like long term. She's not

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Speaker 2: gonna be in your life anymore either way, So what

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Speaker 2: difference does it make?

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Speaker 1: Right?

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Speaker 6: But it's so hurtful because I was your best friend

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Speaker 6: and then you're wondering, Okay, that whole time I was

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Speaker 6: in a relationship with him, was she having feelings for

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Speaker 6: him that whole time?

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Speaker 9: Or did she find him attractive?

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Speaker 6: Like then you're wondering all these things, and then all

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Speaker 6: the trust is just not there anymore.

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Speaker 9: You're just and that that breaks your heart.

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Speaker 1: I'm not saying it doesn't hurt.

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Speaker 2: But what I'm saying is do I have a right

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Speaker 2: to control what happens after I break up with somebody?

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Speaker 2: And what I can control is whether I want those

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Speaker 2: two people in my life anymore, and apparently I don't,

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Speaker 2: So that sucks. I think there's I think there are

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Speaker 2: two things that could be true here. But thank you

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Speaker 2: so much. Have a good day, Jessica, or excuse me,

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Speaker 2: Lindsay was good, but Jessica, we have to talk.

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Speaker 1: Jessica. Hi, Jessica, Hi, Hi, I'm Jessica.

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Speaker 9: I have very strong feelings about this topic today.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, what do you think? Yeah?

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Speaker 9: So I had a best friend who I knew since

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Speaker 9: I was five years old and throughout high school and college.

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Speaker 9: She dated three of my boyfriends that I dated within

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Speaker 9: months four times, so so one of them was more

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Speaker 9: than once. I kind of disconnected with her. I was

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Speaker 9: as an adult. I was like, oh, let's let's be

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Speaker 9: friends again. And then my now husband, and then she

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Speaker 9: kissed him on at one point as well too. When

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Speaker 9: I reconnected with her and we are not friends anymore.

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Speaker 9: So no, I think that that is it's a completely

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Speaker 9: colored first for.

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Speaker 2: Her, and I'm sure that happened to you, But can

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Speaker 2: we connect? Can we at least acknowledge that your situation

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Speaker 2: is different from this one, And it's clearly this person

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Speaker 2: who you were friends with was going for you, going

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Speaker 2: for the jugular, I mean, repeatedly going after anything.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, guy you dated.

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Speaker 2: Is there not a possibility that this person that these

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Speaker 2: two were meant to be together, these other two we're

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Speaker 2: not talking about. She's not sloppy seconds every single time.

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Speaker 2: I mean, that's like, that's some weird obsession with you

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Speaker 2: kind of stuff. But is it absolutely possible that in

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Speaker 2: the course of knowing that couple, that they realized that

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Speaker 2: they were better off together and By the way, the

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Speaker 2: guy didn't even do it.

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Speaker 1: He got dumped. It's not like he left her for

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Speaker 1: the other girl.

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Speaker 9: I just I think two things can be can be

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Speaker 9: right at the same time.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think we agree on that. I think we

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Speaker 2: agree on that. I think we are on that.

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Speaker 9: No, I think more so in my situation was my

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Speaker 9: friend she just didn't necessarily have the confidence to go

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Speaker 9: and find anybody that she was that she could date

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Speaker 9: or anything like that. So I don't know if that

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Speaker 9: was the same situation. It's just more of a comfort

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Speaker 9: of I know, like I know your boyfriends, so like

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Speaker 9: I already know them someone, I might as well date them,

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Speaker 9: you know.

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Speaker 1: Goes to that saying thank you, Jess, have a great day.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, you two friend, thank you.

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Speaker 2: A lot of a lot of opinions here, Emily. Emily,

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Speaker 2: you say everybody's wrong.

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Speaker 10: Oh my god, I didn't know that's how polarized in

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Speaker 10: this list. Okay, yeah, so I was wrong, because here's

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Speaker 10: the thing, you guys are right. That one the girl

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Speaker 10: who broke up with the first girl, it sounds like

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Speaker 10: she kind of had moved on already when she did

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Speaker 10: break up with him, so like, yeah, she doesn't can't

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Speaker 10: control him. However, in some aspect of girl code, I

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Speaker 10: think that the friend should have said something before she

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Speaker 10: was pregnant with his child, because now she's just saying

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Speaker 10: something because she's the other friends going to obviously see

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Speaker 10: she's pregnant. So like I feel like that would have

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Speaker 10: been more respectful and probably she probably had such a

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Speaker 10: strong reaction because she then you know, spiral too. Well,

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Speaker 10: how long has this been going on? You know, she

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Speaker 10: obviously knows they've been keeping secrets. In regardless of if

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Speaker 10: you know he's inner life or not, it's still someone

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Speaker 10: you know you cared about for power long and that

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Speaker 10: hurts knowing that their big things from you. But yeah,

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Speaker 10: everyone's wrong.

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Speaker 1: Yeah no, this isn't I'm not arguing this is great. Again.

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Speaker 2: My only real issue here is this whole thing where

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Speaker 2: it's I own I own you, Uh, no one, no

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Speaker 2: one else can be with that person. I know because

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Speaker 2: because I said so, she.

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Speaker 10: Does not own him. She definitely cannot dictate if they

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Speaker 10: are together or not. I do think she has the

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Speaker 10: right to feel hurt. She does not have a right

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Speaker 10: to dictate they they are break up or they're together.

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Speaker 10: She or you know, she does not get have an

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Speaker 10: opinion on that because she had very much given him

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Speaker 10: up already.

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Speaker 1: I agree with it. I think you're right.

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Speaker 2: Every you know what, Everybody's wrong case closes, everybody recording?

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Speaker 10: Can that be my found it? Can I get a

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Speaker 10: recording of that?

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Speaker 2: Fread Everybody's Wrong case clothes. You're welcome to that copyright.

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Speaker 2: You a good day, Hey, I don't say it a

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Speaker 2: whole a whole lot.

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Speaker 1: You're right.

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Speaker 10: I agree, Thank you all so much.

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Speaker 9: Have a good one.

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