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Speaker 1: My next guest. It's a celebrity chef, best selling cookbook author,

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Speaker 1: TV host, best known from numerous food networking Cooking Channel

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Speaker 1: shows over the last ten years. He is the host

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Speaker 1: of New Soul Kitchen on Cleo TV and the car

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Speaker 1: host for The Best Thing I Ever Ate on Cooking Channel,

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Speaker 1: one of my favorite show. We're gonna start off talking

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Speaker 1: about that Best Thing I Ever Ate. You know, everybody

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Speaker 1: knows I am a foodie, nut and food In fact,

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Speaker 1: I went to this new Brazilian restaurant in the line

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Speaker 1: of Georgia last night, you know, for with the child

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Speaker 1: got off the plane, went there and eight top top top,

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Speaker 1: on the shelves and whole food stores. Please welcome to

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Speaker 1: money making Conversation. My man, Chef Gernard Wells. Hello, how

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Speaker 1: you doing, hey, Chef? You know, if we all, I

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Speaker 1: love talking to chef because basically talking a lot. You know,

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Speaker 1: he called me for a little advice here and that

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Speaker 1: he don't listen to my advice, but he called. He called.

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Speaker 1: You'll be amazed because see he has this, he has

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Speaker 1: this little he has a little quality. He is that

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Speaker 1: what else? See he also he listened to your vife,

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Speaker 1: but he's also listened to that. What else the possibilities?

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Speaker 1: And you know, I'm straight don't do it. But Rashawn,

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Speaker 1: what else after that? I can't talk to you know,

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Speaker 1: but you operating off whatever. But he's a man, so

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Speaker 1: he comes to me all time. Respect that. But you

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Speaker 1: know that I'm gonna give an answer that allows him

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Speaker 1: to think about the process. And that's why our relationship

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Speaker 1: work because I don't want you to be what Roshan

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Speaker 1: says is the truth. Rashan is just getting your information.

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Speaker 1: That's that's based on truth. But then again, you have

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Speaker 1: to make a decision based on what you feel you

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Speaker 1: can unachieve. Sometimes you gotta walk out there. If you

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Speaker 1: walk out there and it's successful, he gets what. Rashaan

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Speaker 1: gave me a thought process that made me think a

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Speaker 1: that's why our relationship get along. We listen to my show,

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Speaker 1: I'm just giving you nuggets. You know, because you walk

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Speaker 1: a different path, you get up on the different side

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Speaker 1: may be listening to this show, So what I'm saying

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Speaker 1: may work differently if you approach it differently. So that's

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Speaker 1: why Cheff and I get along, yep, and I have

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Speaker 1: to ad make you know your the the information and

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Speaker 1: knowledge that you continue instealing me. You know it is

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Speaker 1: so it is so valuable. And what it does is

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Speaker 1: it allows me to truly step back, and that's I

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Speaker 1: do step as they say, how can you learn how

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Speaker 1: to walk on water by getting out of the boat.

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Speaker 1: But what your knowledge does is it helps me on

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Speaker 1: how to approach the situation and how to handle it.

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Speaker 1: You know, what you do is you help me put

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Speaker 1: my guards up when I'm walking into a place where

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Speaker 1: to expect. You're the boy to read me. That helped

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Speaker 1: me see things and know how to operate in different perspectives.

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Speaker 1: And which is it is very key and beneficial and

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Speaker 1: walk into platforms are doing business and they have no

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Speaker 1: somebody like a Rasha McDonald in your corner, they help

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Speaker 1: maneuver from all the cooks and turns. You know, everybody

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Speaker 1: I'm truly thankful to how you in my life. Now,

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Speaker 1: let's talk about this food, because you know he was

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Speaker 1: talking to me about different First of all, the show

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Speaker 1: called Best Thing I Ever Ate on the Cookie Channel.

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Speaker 1: Tell them exactly what that is before we start talking

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Speaker 1: about the different places that you went. Noet. The Best

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Speaker 1: Things That Ever comes on every Monday night, nine pm

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Speaker 1: Eastern time. The show is about every every person that's

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Speaker 1: the co host. In the show, we go through our

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Speaker 1: And based off of those things is how we go

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Speaker 1: best thing that they're ever to see out the best

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Speaker 1: about that, co hosting alone with some various steamships out

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Speaker 1: an amazing journey and it's you know, and it's about

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Speaker 1: paying off chief. Let's talk about the food now, what

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Speaker 1: I got all that Wolf game punk I ate at

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Speaker 1: food now. What places really really and yeah, it's please

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Speaker 1: speaking suckulent terms when you talk about this food. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: in Atlanta, it would definitely be Atlanta Breasast Club. Um,

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Speaker 1: those young young brothers and sisters that's behind the forefront

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Speaker 1: because he got me rolling with the suckling talk. Yes,

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Speaker 1: already on the page of the Atlanta Breakfast Club. I'm

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Speaker 1: We'll be back with money making conversation, Chef. Don't go

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Speaker 1: to where I'm home, Gryhi just for Sean McDonald and

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Speaker 1: you're listening to money making conversations. I'm talking to my man,

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Speaker 1: As a matter of fact, we've had such an amazing

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Speaker 1: Going mat actually presented by Bone Appetite. You know a

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Speaker 1: lot of people for me were Bond Apple Tea magazine,

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Speaker 1: conjunction with the Illinois Restaurants Association. A lot of people

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Speaker 1: are for me were like, uh takes the Chicago and

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Speaker 1: different things like that. Chicago Goingamet an amazing food event

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Speaker 1: that pairs a celebrity chef as well as wine points

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Speaker 1: and spirits. And I'll be actually one of the headline

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Speaker 1: cooking show. I'm actually doing a play on everything is

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Speaker 1: about movies. This year for me was like Butchcasting and

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Speaker 1: the Sundans Kid's gonna be Bushcasting and the Wild Wing

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Speaker 1: with Whiskey con Huge Wing. Wow. That's hot. Yeah yeah,

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Speaker 1: Now you get free. I know you been, Jett said

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Speaker 1: everywhere I would love for you to come hang with me. Well,

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you right right now. You know, I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna go to the Atlanta Breakfast Club first. If you

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Speaker 1: the Atlanta Breakfast Club and that chicken and bacon. I

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Speaker 1: producers on the show, Sam, he's been there. He was

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Speaker 1: like talking about the piech cobbler putting on top of

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Speaker 1: got a place up in up in Chicago called Batter

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Speaker 1: and Berries, which is all stand. They're they're amazing up there.

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Speaker 1: So so we got a Labor Day, so everybody wants

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Speaker 1: to eat right on Labor Day. Gumbo by BQ Fried chicken.

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Speaker 1: What do you recommend as a as a good family

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Speaker 1: during these labor day periods of multa September before you

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Speaker 1: get into that chicken time frame, that the turkeys time

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Speaker 1: when we when we're kicking out labor that you can't

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Speaker 1: As a matter of fact, we did and we did

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Speaker 1: we did an apple glaze baked rib that's perfect for

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Speaker 1: the labor day holiday season. Throw you some fresh Feedia

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Speaker 1: And we got that potato salad. Now it's always a ballot.

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Speaker 1: on your hands. And now when it comes to dessert,

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Speaker 1: when it comes to dessert, ain't even fixing dessert because

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Speaker 1: I'm calling Rashad McDonald and he got to me a

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Speaker 1: couple of my man, my man Hill Chief Man. I

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Speaker 1: appreciate you. You You know I post everybody want to find

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Speaker 1: the chef and go to my at Rashaw McDonald. Every

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Speaker 1: Saturday feature. He has a video that he uploads the

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Speaker 1: original videos of his of his craft. He's one of

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Speaker 1: my favorite people. I enjoy having him on my show.

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Speaker 1: He knows that anytime, anytime he needs me, I will

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Speaker 1: promote his brand because as you can see, the man

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Speaker 1: knows his food. When I asked him to go succulent,

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Speaker 1: he went beyond that. Everybody in the room went, that's

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Speaker 1: my man. Keep following. Chef Geno Wells