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Speaker 2: We'll talk to Albert Breer, the Monday Morning Quarterback as

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Speaker 2: the Commissioner gets ready to meet with the media later

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Speaker 2: on today. Buddha in San Francisco joining us.

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Speaker 3: Good morning, Buddha, What up DP, just sitting here and

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Speaker 3: joining the Sunrise rest and worst of the weekend. Worse

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Speaker 3: is Lebron making the All Star Game. I'm just over

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Speaker 3: this iteration of the Lakers. Let's move on now. And

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Speaker 3: the best is Dan Patrick's show coming to San Francisco

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Speaker 3: and being here with Dan Nation. Who's got it better

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Speaker 3: than not?

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Speaker 4: No nobody?

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Speaker 3: And I'm also here to collect on the bet Dan

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Speaker 3: since I'm here. Well, Marvin owes me a pie of

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Speaker 3: the face for my Dodger World series, and being here,

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Speaker 3: we're both on the set. Just say him.

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Speaker 5: We'll discuss that. Marvin. You look a little surprised.

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Speaker 6: I'll have no pie clothes. Oh that's out.

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Speaker 2: Okay, No, no pie clothes, no pie closes.

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Speaker 5: Okay, but you did, bet? I did? Okay, Okay, bet

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Speaker 5: for sure? All right? Fair enough?

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Speaker 2: Uh, He's the Monday Morning Quarterback and it just happens

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Speaker 2: to be Monday and always generous with his time. Whenever

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Speaker 2: we call, he is available. Albert Breer, the Monday morning quarterback,

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Speaker 2: their senior NFL reporter who joins this here in the

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Speaker 2: man cave. Good Albert, there he is, kid him once

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Speaker 2: again if he had Yeah, you be right there right

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Speaker 2: next to me. All right, But if we if we

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Speaker 2: did have an octagon inside NFL Insider, I got my

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Speaker 2: Glazer is going to win that.

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Speaker 4: I've got reach on everybody, though, I think, right, could

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Speaker 4: could you take so I take Glazer off the board?

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Speaker 5: Can you Adam Schefter?

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Speaker 4: I mean I think I got I'm younger, I'm taller, Okay,

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Speaker 4: so okay, I think so.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, Paula Schefter stock here, low profile, lower to the ground.

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Speaker 7: Albert again does have reach and confidence.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, Peter King, you could take I Nobody could

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Speaker 2: hit Peter though, right, okay, because he's too good a guy,

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Speaker 2: nice guy.

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Speaker 5: Yeah yeah, I mean I.

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Speaker 4: Just like I just couldn't do that, no way. But

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Speaker 4: if you had to, if you have to, and I

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Speaker 4: put him, I put him in I put him in

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Speaker 4: a headlock, just so I didn't do any real damage.

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Speaker 5: So you just put him to sleep?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, all right, you get the first question to

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Speaker 2: the commissioner today.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, so you asked me this before. I think there

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Speaker 4: are three uncomfortable questions that he could be asked today

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Speaker 4: that I think, to me probably need to be asked.

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Speaker 4: Number one is the running rule, which there were ten

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Speaker 4: head coach hires. It's all done now, not one African

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Speaker 4: American hire. There are only three African American head coaches left.

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Speaker 4: There was only one minority higher that was Robert Sala

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Speaker 4: to the Titans. So that'd be Number one is do

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Speaker 4: you feel like you've taken a step back. It also

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Speaker 4: happens to be in the year they canceled the Accelerator,

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Speaker 4: they generally had this networking event for minority coaches in

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Speaker 4: the spring that this year they canceled it. There was

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Speaker 4: some suspicion that that was done because of the deal

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Speaker 4: they were trying to do with the current administration, the merger,

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Speaker 4: right like that there were some moving pieces there.

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Speaker 5: Wait explain that so well.

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Speaker 4: I mean, at the very least, there were rumblings out

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Speaker 5: This is NFL network and e sp right.

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Speaker 4: Right, that there were rumblings that they were going to

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Speaker 4: do what they needed to do to appease the current

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Speaker 4: very least, I know there were people that felt like

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Speaker 4: it was bad optics that they were canceling that event.

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Speaker 4: And then they had a photo op with the president

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Speaker 4: if you remember to announce the twenty twenty seven draft

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Speaker 4: twenty two years. So you had the combination of the merger,

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Speaker 4: the Rooney Rule. Another uncomfortable question is what we all

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Speaker 4: saw at the Epstein files on Friday right multiple NFL

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Speaker 4: different level than the rest. How does Steve Tish? How

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Speaker 4: does Steve Tish's involvement in the Epstein files affect his

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Speaker 4: ownership of the Giants going forward? And then the third

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Speaker 4: uncomfortable question I think is more of a football question,

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Speaker 4: which would be the state of officiating, because I do

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Speaker 4: think to some degree it's just there's not enough training.

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Speaker 4: I don't know how you guys feel watching it, but

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Speaker 4: I cover this stuff for a living and it's hard

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Speaker 4: or it's hard for me to tell who's making the decisions,

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Speaker 4: you know, So like the lack of transparency, especially when

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Speaker 4: you're doing business with the gambling company, it's the way

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Speaker 4: that you are now. Does there need to be more transparency?

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Speaker 4: I've advocated, I think, and this is this isn't on

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Speaker 4: the officials themselves. I think they've just continued to pile

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Speaker 4: on top of rule change. They've tangled it up and

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Speaker 4: made it so hard for the officials to adjudicate the

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Speaker 4: game out there. And to me, it's like you've seen

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Speaker 4: what it looks like at field level, it's a blur.

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Speaker 5: Oh my god.

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Speaker 4: You have to train your eyes to look for things.

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Speaker 4: And if you're giving guys fifteen new things to look

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Speaker 4: at every year, points of emphasis, rules changes, and then

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Speaker 4: on top of that, they know big brothers watching right,

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Speaker 4: They've got the camera watching, and so they've got that

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Speaker 4: in their head. It just feels like this is something

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Speaker 4: where we have all this technology. Now maybe it's time

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Speaker 4: to rebuild the thing all together, right and figure out

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Speaker 4: a better way to use the technology, because just taking

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Speaker 4: the old system and piling technology on top of it

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Speaker 4: I don't think is working.

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Speaker 2: They need to subtract. I keep saying, stop adding, start, subtract.

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Speaker 4: Tear it down to the studs and like, find a

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Speaker 5: Can we listen?

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Speaker 2: Do you think we'll get to the point where we

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Speaker 2: get to listen what the conversation is during a replay?

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Speaker 4: It's an interesting idea. I hadn't thought of that.

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Speaker 5: The ACC is doing. I've said it for years.

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Speaker 2: If you have nothing to hide, if we're all in

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Speaker 2: it together to get it right, yeah, let's listen. Like

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Speaker 2: the Broncos interception, like that's not even reviewed, I don't think.

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Speaker 4: I mean, it was so quick and that was the

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Speaker 4: problem Sean McDermott had with it, right, It wasn't. It

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Speaker 4: wasn't that like they even with the time out though, right,

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Speaker 4: And he tried to, but it just felt like it

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Speaker 4: there and I do think, I mean, maybe you don't

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Speaker 4: give it to the fans in the moment, but you

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Speaker 4: give it to him at some point. I mean, I

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Speaker 4: I don't know, I guess the the the the downside

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Speaker 4: to that would be potentially vilifying an individual, a vilifying

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Speaker 4: official that said, that's what happens to the coaches and

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Speaker 4: players on a weekly days.

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Speaker 2: But we don't remember you if you get it right,

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Speaker 2: we remember you get it wrong. So if it exonerates you, now.

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Speaker 5: I know that.

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Speaker 2: You know, go back to the Rams and the Saints

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Speaker 2: in that in that games interference, yes, and a helmet.

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Speaker 5: To the head as well. They could have called two things.

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Speaker 2: If you put together an all star officiating crew, nobody

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Speaker 2: think if you have your team together, you're with the

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Speaker 2: whole year. You got my back, yep, I'm not going

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Speaker 2: to remember you if you get the call right. I'll

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Speaker 2: remember if you get the call wrong. And I think

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Speaker 2: that's what the NFL needs to do.

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Speaker 4: And I think that that's why I've always advocated for

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Speaker 4: the sky judge, like having that person be a part

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Speaker 4: should be there. And like I just think the having

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Speaker 4: when it comes to the on field crew and they're

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Speaker 4: accountable to each other, and that guy up in the booth,

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Speaker 4: like he has to see the coaches before the game.

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Speaker 4: On the field, he's accountable to the coaches. He's accountable

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Speaker 4: to the players too. I felt like that was an answer,

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Speaker 4: we could get to.

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Speaker 2: All he's the Monday morning quarterback. Albert Breer, senior NFL reporter.

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Speaker 2: How does the commissioner answer the Steve Tish Epstein file question?

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Speaker 5: My guess would be, how would you pose the question?

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Speaker 4: I would I would say, how are you going to handle?

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Speaker 4: Maybe I will be the one to ask it. How

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Speaker 4: how are you gonna how how are you going to

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Speaker 4: handle owners appearing in the Epstein files? And how are

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Speaker 4: you going to separate one from the other? Because I

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Speaker 4: think there were I want to say it was four.

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Speaker 4: Four of them so far at least have have surfaced

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Speaker 4: in the Epstein files. But the one, the Tish one,

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Speaker 4: is way is like a different level, or at least

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Speaker 4: it reads that way now he's put out his statement,

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Speaker 4: but it reads like like the other ones are just

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Speaker 4: because it doesn't there's no proof that they're actually involved

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Speaker 4: in the wrong the real horrible horror fied like the

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Speaker 4: wrongdoing there. But you know, like with with Tish, it's like, okay,

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Speaker 4: like how do you separate that? And then can the

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Speaker 4: NFL go forward with a guy who is in this

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Speaker 4: sort of whoo who now has this on his record

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Speaker 4: is representing the NFL right and they always say they

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Speaker 4: hold the owners to a higher standard. Will this got

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Speaker 4: to be something where you prove it and you show it,

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Speaker 4: and so it'll be interesting to see to see.

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Speaker 5: The way that that one's handled.

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Speaker 2: Does the commissioner care about the voting process of the

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Speaker 2: Hall of Fame where that question come up?

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Speaker 4: He's not really involved in it, That's the thing. It's like,

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Speaker 4: But it's still the NFL right, And that's when people

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Speaker 4: don't really recognize that the NFL doesn't run the Hall

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Speaker 4: of Fames its own entity. Now can the influences, but

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Speaker 4: it is in conjunction with right, and it does reflect

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Speaker 4: Most people don't just there's no distinction of them, right,

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Speaker 4: So for most people, like, if something goes wrong with

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Speaker 4: the Pro Football Hall of Fame, most people are what

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Speaker 4: you're saying is most people will associate it with the

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Speaker 4: NFL itself. I like, I think he could definitely, you know,

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Speaker 4: have an audience with them. And you know, this particular

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Speaker 4: case is fascinating to me because and for everybody who

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Speaker 4: doesn't know, they've grouped the seniors together now with the

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Speaker 4: is the seniors by definition are almost like chees chance candidates, right,

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Speaker 4: So you almost have, if you're a voter, you almost

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Speaker 2: Well, nobody's getting in first ballot. No coach is getting

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Speaker 4: He's been out for what over a decade now, and

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Speaker 4: people who worked for him, you know what I mean. Like,

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Speaker 4: because he worked for Seaffert. Yeah, but it's like it's

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Speaker 4: his influence on the game has been so immense. So

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Speaker 4: I look at Shanahan as like that is so simple

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Speaker 4: it's crazy to me because I do think it's one sport.

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Speaker 4: I agree players should get in over coaches generally.

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Speaker 6: But it is.

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Speaker 4: Having covered this covered the league for twenty one years.

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Speaker 6: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well you know there's eighteen games, seventeen games, and

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Speaker 2: I find it strange that we're now parsing the well,

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Speaker 2: did we do that to any other coach in history

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Speaker 5: And the answer is no.

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Speaker 2: And if you said, hey cheated, okay, and if that's

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Speaker 4: And that's what the first ballot thing kills me. I know,

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Speaker 4: it just kills me because I'm like, all right, so

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Speaker 4: it's a yes or no question. It should be hard

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Speaker 4: a I'm not ranking the Hall of famers. It's either

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Speaker 4: I can vote for, then so be it, right, like

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Speaker 4: if it's there are seven deserving guys and I can

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Speaker 4: vote for five, and that means I'm leaving two deserving

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Speaker 5: So be it. But it shouldn't be.

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Speaker 4: Well, I don't view him the same way as this

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Speaker 4: I don't know how you could look at that list

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Speaker 5: That makes no sense, all right, real quick?

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Speaker 4: I mean, it's hard not to say John Harbaugh because

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Speaker 4: And I think when you look at him, like how

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Speaker 4: that puts you on a different plateau. But I mean,

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Speaker 4: So so how do you how do you how do

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Speaker 4: And I think it's sort of indicative. Honestly, Dan, I

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Speaker 4: I think that that's gonna be a big piece. Now

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Speaker 4: please don't aggregate this. Instead anyone is shopping anyone of these,

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Speaker 4: But when you look at the makeup of where we are,

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Speaker 4: And then you have I think the more natural reclamation

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Speaker 5: You know, two a tongue of AALOA Kyler, Murray Malik Willis.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, so Malik Willis is a very interesting name. Just

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Speaker 2: couple of minutes if we're able to pull that off.

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Speaker 5: All right, A couple of notes here.

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Speaker 2: The NFL Commissioner is going to meet with the media

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Speaker 2: later today and there's some football related stuff, but probably

438
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Speaker 2: some uncomfortable conversations as well that will be had. The

439
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Speaker 2: Raiders are hiring Clint Kubiak, who will be the offensive

440
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Speaker 2: coordinator in the Super Bowl. Mike Lafleur, Matt Lefleur's brother,

441
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Speaker 2: the offensive coordinator for the Rams, will take over with

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Speaker 2: the Arizona Cardinals. Try to get to more of your

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Speaker 2: phone calls coming up in this first hour.

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Speaker 5: Good morning.

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Speaker 2: If you're watching on Peacock, that's our streaming partner. Download

446
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Speaker 2: the app if you haven't done so. He is the

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Speaker 2: president and CEO of the San Francisco Giants. He's Larry

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Speaker 2: Bear who joins us now. Yeah, hi Dan, and he

449
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Speaker 2: came bearing gifts as well.

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Speaker 6: Yes we have you're you're now a giant for life.

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Speaker 6: Here we are the cream colored jerseys, all right. That

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Speaker 6: Willie May's Willie McCovey, Barry Bonds war. Yeah, and it's

453
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Speaker 6: all yours. Welcome to San Francisco.

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Speaker 2: Thank you, thank you, and uh, thank you for letting

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Speaker 2: us have the facility here. Now, can you can you

456
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Speaker 2: turn on the jumbo trip Do you have something on

457
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Speaker 2: your phone?

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Speaker 6: My button to turn on the jumper trin Okay, got

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Speaker 6: my little gets, my my little shoe button.

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Speaker 2: Have you ever opened the stadium for your kids to

461
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Speaker 2: go in and like they want to take, you know,

462
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Speaker 2: have whiffle ball or something like that.

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Speaker 6: You know, we've had We've had activities here for school

464
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Speaker 6: groups and everything, not just for my children, but we've

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Speaker 6: you know, it's such a magical thing, a ballpark. You know,

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Speaker 6: we kind of take it for granted, those of us

467
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Speaker 6: who come to it every day. But I have memories

468
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Speaker 6: of going with my father out to Candlestick Park on

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Speaker 6: the bus and watching Willie May's, Willie McCovey, Juan marichall play,

470
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Speaker 6: you know, Hall of Famers, all Hall of Famers play.

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Speaker 6: When the Giants moved to San Francisco in the sixties

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Speaker 6: and then the seventies at Candlestick and this ballpark now

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Speaker 6: Oracle Park, our new ballpark is core century old and

474
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Speaker 6: going strong. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I was going to ask you about the shelf life

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Speaker 2: of stadiums, because it feels like there is a finite

477
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Speaker 2: amount of time before we then tear something down and

478
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Speaker 2: we maybe move someplace or build something on the same

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Speaker 2: property here.

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Speaker 5: Why will this be different here?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, Dan, I think it depends. I think it depends

482
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Speaker 6: on a few things, on the location, on the feel

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Speaker 6: on how you're able to curate a ballpark over time.

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Speaker 6: And I'll never forget when we acquired the Giants. Say,

485
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Speaker 6: just back now to the nineteen nineties, early ninety ninety three,

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Speaker 6: Candlestick Park was thirty years old or so felt like

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Speaker 6: it was seventy five years old. Dodger Stadium was the

488
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Speaker 6: same age, thirty years about you know where the because

489
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Speaker 6: Giants and Dodgers moved west at the same time, and

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Speaker 6: it felt like it was ten years old. It was

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Speaker 6: maintained beautifully Dodger Stadium, and here it is going strong today.

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Speaker 6: So you know, we we we very much hope that

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Speaker 6: we can be in the vein of Wrigley Field and

494
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Speaker 6: Femway Park and you know, be around forever. There will

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Speaker 6: be obviously there'll be improvements, and we do that every year.

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Speaker 6: We do make changes and add and subtract and do things.

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Speaker 6: But I think, you know, we're really proud of the

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Speaker 6: city of San Francisco and the location and the support.

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Speaker 6: So we're not going anywhere anytime soon.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, you did it right.

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Speaker 2: The Vista's public transportation. You have people coming into the city,

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Speaker 2: which is really important building around.

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Speaker 5: Like, that's what worries me.

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Speaker 2: Bears are going to go outside the city, you know,

505
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Speaker 2: the Cleveland Browns outside. I want people going into a city,

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Speaker 2: not leaving a city.

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Speaker 6: Well, I think, look the urban part of the urban experience.

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Speaker 6: We like to talk about work, live, play, people living downtown,

509
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Speaker 6: going to the ballpark, working downtown. It's a great urban

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Speaker 6: experience here in San Francisco and lots of cities around

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Speaker 6: the country. And I think if a ballpark could be

512
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Speaker 6: part of that experience. I think also baseball uniquely because

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Speaker 6: it's played during the day, often it's in the summer.

514
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Speaker 6: You want to have that experience in and around a

515
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Speaker 6: city with the restaurants and the economic benefit that you

516
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Speaker 6: can get. Well, this ballpark opened thirty years ago. There

517
00:25:54,119 --> 00:25:57,840
Speaker 6: wasn't a lot around this neighborhood. Now we have a

518
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Speaker 6: whole area, a whole neighborhood. It's really the growth engine

519
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Speaker 6: of San Francisco is right where we're sitting here, right,

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Speaker 6: you know, within a walking distance of the ballpark.

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Speaker 2: I was walking around yesterday, saw the statues McCovey, Marshall,

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Speaker 2: Willie Mays. Where are you placing Barry Bond's statue?

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Speaker 6: TVD TBD on Barry, but will we You know, Barry,

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Speaker 6: it's interesting because the five that we have are in

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Speaker 6: the Hall of Fame, the five statues, that's been sort

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Speaker 6: of our criteria. But we view Barry as a Hall

527
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Speaker 6: of Famer even though he's not in the Hall of Fame.

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Speaker 6: And that's obviously a big, long discussion that has been

529
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Speaker 6: had will continue to be had. But in our minds,

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Speaker 6: he is a Hall of Famer and statue worthy. Jeff Kim.

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Speaker 6: We're proud that Jeff Kent is going in the Hall

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Speaker 6: of Fame now coming from the New Era ballot, and

533
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Speaker 6: a year from now. We have some others including Buster Posey,

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Speaker 6: who is our president of Baseball Operations, who we believe.

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Speaker 5: Should be first statue if.

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Speaker 6: You're in the Hall of Fame, So your statue is

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Speaker 6: coming when you fame.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, So does Bonds have any say in this.

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Speaker 6: In terms of whether he gets a statue or where

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Speaker 6: it is. Yeah, we've we've talked to some de Barry

541
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Speaker 6: with Barry about it, and uh, you know, we need

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Speaker 6: to have that conversation and help figure it out.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, how do you come to grips with him being

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Speaker 2: a Hall of Famer if I say make the case

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Speaker 2: for Barry Bond's Hall of Famer.

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Speaker 6: You know, look, I it's it's a tough one for

547
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Speaker 6: us because I mean, it's not tough decision. He we

548
00:27:36,119 --> 00:27:38,680
Speaker 6: believe he absolutely should be in the Hall of Fame.

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Speaker 6: Uh you know, the there's criteria on the ballot, and

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Speaker 6: it's hard for us to opine on him versus other players.

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00:27:48,200 --> 00:27:51,280
Speaker 6: We think that's a it's a really difficult discussion. But

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Speaker 6: by any objective measure him and there are others that

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Speaker 6: are not in the Hall of Fame that we believe

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Speaker 6: are worthy in that era deserve to go. And that's

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Speaker 6: you know that that's something it's not going to get

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Speaker 6: sorted out easily. Barry was from ninety three to ninety nine,

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Speaker 6: you know, before all before the allegations, was we believe

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Speaker 6: Hall of Fame worthy for his career in Pittsburgh and

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Speaker 6: San Francisco. So you know that we can't. You know,

560
00:28:20,280 --> 00:28:23,080
Speaker 6: it's just you have a feel for it, and you

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Speaker 6: it's it's a subjective view. And Barry's a giant. Berry's

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Speaker 6: a great giant, one of the greatest of all time,

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Speaker 6: and we believe he deserves to be in the Hall

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Speaker 6: of Fame. And deserves a statue.

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Speaker 5: Fill in the blank. The Dodgers are blank for baseball.

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Speaker 6: The Dodgers are a great competitor for baseball for the Giants.

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Speaker 6: Do you hate?

568
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Speaker 5: Do you hate Dodgers?

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Speaker 6: I don't think you know this. It's an interesting discussion.

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Speaker 6: I think you've probably you've talked to the commissioner about

571
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Speaker 6: this and others. You know, let's just take all the

572
00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:03,400
Speaker 6: sports and here we are, you know, at super Bowl Week.

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Speaker 6: I think having a dragon to slay in a sport,

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Speaker 6: and if you go back, it was, you know, in

575
00:29:10,040 --> 00:29:13,280
Speaker 6: the NFL was what's upon a time the Cowboys, the

576
00:29:13,320 --> 00:29:16,360
Speaker 6: forty nine ers had their run. That's not all bad.

577
00:29:16,480 --> 00:29:20,760
Speaker 6: The Yankees did that in baseball, you could say that's

578
00:29:20,800 --> 00:29:24,960
Speaker 6: the Dodgers now having a dragon to slay? Is it

579
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Speaker 6: necessarily a bad thing for the sport. We want to

580
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Speaker 6: beat the Dodgers and we want to be at the

581
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Speaker 6: top of the division and one day and we want

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Speaker 6: to be the dragon to slay. You know, baseball is

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Speaker 6: unpredictable as well. When we won three championships in twenty ten, twelve,

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Speaker 6: and fourteen, we weren't predicted to win any of those years,

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Speaker 6: and we didn't have a top five payroll any of

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Speaker 6: those years. So hats off to the Dodger organization because

587
00:29:54,800 --> 00:29:58,880
Speaker 6: they've done it with obviously high priced players, but they've

588
00:29:58,880 --> 00:30:01,040
Speaker 6: also done it with farms, system and development.

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Speaker 2: Well, people lose sight of the fact. What were they

590
00:30:03,080 --> 00:30:06,280
Speaker 2: two ounce away from losing that World Series? So it

591
00:30:06,360 --> 00:30:10,480
Speaker 2: wasn't that they breezed through everybody. But when are you?

592
00:30:10,600 --> 00:30:13,040
Speaker 2: When did you decide do you have to hate the

593
00:30:13,080 --> 00:30:15,040
Speaker 2: Dodgers like that comes with the rivalry?

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Speaker 5: Does Hey?

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Speaker 6: You know what, let me tell you a quick story.

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Speaker 6: A couple of quick stories. Okay, number one, growing up

597
00:30:20,080 --> 00:30:24,800
Speaker 6: in San Francisco, you know Juan Marischell and John Roseboro

598
00:30:25,520 --> 00:30:30,040
Speaker 6: and a Giant Dodgers and Mary Wills and Sandy Colfax

599
00:30:30,080 --> 00:30:33,680
Speaker 6: and Don Drysdale with May's McCovey Marichell. I mean, it

600
00:30:33,720 --> 00:30:35,800
Speaker 6: was just one of the great rivalries of sports and

601
00:30:35,800 --> 00:30:38,800
Speaker 6: it remains a great rivalry. So hate is I don't really,

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Speaker 6: I don't like the word hate because it's just like

603
00:30:41,600 --> 00:30:44,360
Speaker 6: it's it's a rivalry to get your blood boiling in

604
00:30:44,400 --> 00:30:46,920
Speaker 6: a good way. But the story I wanted to say

605
00:30:47,240 --> 00:30:49,640
Speaker 6: is in the Giants almost moved to Florida. This is

606
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Speaker 6: nineteen ninety two and the team was financially on the

607
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Speaker 6: ropes and that's when our group came together to buy

608
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Speaker 6: the team. But there was a deal signed to move

609
00:30:59,200 --> 00:31:02,520
Speaker 6: the team to Florida. The number one the number one

610
00:31:02,600 --> 00:31:07,200
Speaker 6: supporter of the Giants staying in San Francisco, Peter O'Malley

611
00:31:07,320 --> 00:31:10,880
Speaker 6: and the Dodgers because we came out together from Brooklyn

612
00:31:10,920 --> 00:31:14,640
Speaker 6: and New York in nineteen fifty eight. And this is

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00:31:14,720 --> 00:31:18,960
Speaker 6: a spectacular rivalry. So off the you know, on the field,

614
00:31:18,960 --> 00:31:21,640
Speaker 6: we try to beat each other's brains. In off the field,

615
00:31:21,680 --> 00:31:27,160
Speaker 6: we're actually you know, colleagues and partners in trying to

616
00:31:27,200 --> 00:31:30,680
Speaker 6: grow the sport and having opened up the sport in California,

617
00:31:31,000 --> 00:31:34,280
Speaker 6: the first two teams west of the Mississippi, the Giants

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00:31:34,280 --> 00:31:37,440
Speaker 6: and Dodgers are it's a great rivalry. So the fans,

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Speaker 6: we like the fans being energized and all, but we

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Speaker 6: think it's, you know, really adds to the to the

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Speaker 6: value of the sport having this rivalry.

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Speaker 2: He's the president CEO of the Giants, Larry Bear. Can

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Speaker 2: you overspend on your team?

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Speaker 6: You know you can you overspend? I mean it's the

625
00:31:55,840 --> 00:31:58,080
Speaker 6: question is how do you define overspending? Does it mean

626
00:31:58,120 --> 00:32:01,560
Speaker 6: being in the luxury tax? Does it mean if you

627
00:32:01,680 --> 00:32:05,440
Speaker 6: do development the right way right in which we've had.

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00:32:05,560 --> 00:32:08,560
Speaker 6: We were lucky enough in that era when we won championships,

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Speaker 6: pretty much the entire team was homegrown, right between Buster

630
00:32:11,920 --> 00:32:15,440
Speaker 6: Posey and Massive Bumgarner and Tim Linsecam and Brandon Crawford

631
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Speaker 6: and Brandon Belt and so we didn't overspend. We didn't

632
00:32:20,920 --> 00:32:24,120
Speaker 6: have to overspend. You know, we were somewhere in the

633
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Speaker 6: top ten, but we weren't in the top five and spending.

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Speaker 6: So I guess the question is do you need to

635
00:32:29,840 --> 00:32:32,440
Speaker 6: overspend to win? I would say the answer is no,

636
00:32:34,040 --> 00:32:35,960
Speaker 6: but you have to have the right development in baseball.

637
00:32:36,240 --> 00:32:38,680
Speaker 6: Baseball is different. I mean, you come off a college

638
00:32:38,720 --> 00:32:42,720
Speaker 6: campus or a high school campus for that matter, and

639
00:32:42,800 --> 00:32:44,680
Speaker 6: you've got you know, the very best players are in

640
00:32:44,720 --> 00:32:47,840
Speaker 6: the minor leagues for three years four years, and that's

641
00:32:48,000 --> 00:32:51,000
Speaker 6: really where a lot of the arms races now. It's

642
00:32:51,040 --> 00:32:54,320
Speaker 6: not necessarily. Yes, signing free agents can matter, and we've

643
00:32:54,360 --> 00:32:56,360
Speaker 6: had some great free agents Barry Bonds at the top

644
00:32:56,360 --> 00:32:59,640
Speaker 6: of the list, who have mattered a lot. But if

645
00:32:59,640 --> 00:33:01,800
Speaker 6: you did didn't have the twenty four other players to

646
00:33:01,840 --> 00:33:04,040
Speaker 6: pair them with, and the guys that are coming up

647
00:33:04,080 --> 00:33:07,040
Speaker 6: through the miners. It's it's it's hard to do it

648
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Speaker 6: through free agents only.

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Speaker 5: Were you in on the uh Tani sweetstakes?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, we were in on their timey. We had show

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Speaker 6: A sitting in just across the water here in the

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Speaker 6: ballpark trying to woo him.

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Speaker 2: And you were gonna let him pitch in hit, yes,

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Speaker 2: because not everybody wanted to do that.

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Speaker 6: We were gonna let him pitch in head and we

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Speaker 6: you know, and our salary and and deal was competitive

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Speaker 6: to the DoD was pretty much the same as the Dodgers.

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Speaker 6: They it's said they the agents for him at the time,

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Speaker 6: c AA. They basically set out the deal. And you know,

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Speaker 6: we would have played along along with that deal. But

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Speaker 6: you know, I look, we understand everything. He was in

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Speaker 6: southern California. Uh, he is one of one. He's a unicorn.

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Speaker 6: He's amazing, and he's good for the sport.

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Speaker 2: Were you closer to getting Otani or Aaron Judge?

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Speaker 6: Uh? I don't know. I mean Aaron Judge grew up

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Speaker 6: a lot closer to San Francisco than show Hey did.

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Speaker 2: Uh We I thought you were getting him.

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Speaker 5: I thought I thought you guys were gonna we.

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Speaker 6: Had you know, it's interesting because Aarons such a great

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Speaker 6: guy and he's uh grew up near here. We totally

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Speaker 6: understand going back to the Yankees decision to go back

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Speaker 6: to the Yankee because you're a Yankee great and you

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Speaker 6: step away from that. It was in some ways out

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Speaker 6: of our hands in the sense that we were getting

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Speaker 6: competitive on the numbers. I'm not sure there were any

676
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Speaker 6: numbers that were gonna get him here if he if

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Speaker 6: the Yankees decided in the end they were going to

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Speaker 6: keep him.

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 6: He we had a great event here with his uh

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Speaker 6: parents and Uh. Aaron was quote as saying his favorite

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Speaker 6: player growing up was rich Ailia, who played shortstop play

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Speaker 6: with in front of Barry Bonds, right, and so when

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Speaker 6: Aaron was growing up in the nineties, and so we

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Speaker 6: had a little event here where Aaron we were having

686
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Speaker 6: a dinner and Aaron gets tapped on the shoulder. He looked,

687
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Speaker 6: turns around, he said, Aaron, nice to meet you. I'm

688
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Speaker 6: so look, we did what we could. But you know, again,

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Speaker 6: Aaron Judge is good for baseball. He's a tremendous player.

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Speaker 6: We didn't walk into that thinking that there was some

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Speaker 6: huge you know, ninety percent chance he was going to

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Speaker 6: come to us because he he at the time was

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Speaker 6: a Yankee great and to continue as a Yankee great

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Speaker 6: is you know, is a big deal.

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Speaker 2: Thanks for the accommodations, not only this year, but a

696
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Speaker 2: couple of years ago Super Bowl where we were in

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Speaker 2: the Scottsdale Stadium. It was wonderful. Your people have been

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00:35:52,160 --> 00:35:54,680
Speaker 2: great and we appreciate the accommodation.

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Speaker 6: Well, thanks Dan. We love the partnership. We love a

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Speaker 6: partnership with you and your your group and and with NBC.

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Speaker 6: And we look forward to on NBC and Peacock Sunday

702
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Speaker 6: Night Baseball returning. And I saw our friend Bob Costas

703
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Speaker 6: is coming back on the air, which is awesome.

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Speaker 2: I know Larry Bear, the president CEO of the San

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Speaker 2: Francisco Giants. We take a break, We're back after this,

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Speaker 2: Dan jack Hill.

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Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in

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Speaker 1: the nation. Catch all of our shows at Foxsports Radio

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Speaker 1: dot com and within the iHeartRadio app search FSR to

710
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Speaker 1: listen live. What a beautiful.

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Speaker 2: Morning, suns up, Todd ready to reveal the guns? You're

712
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Speaker 2: gonna you got your Giants long sleeve.

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Speaker 6: Fall like Broncos tank type. I should have broke.

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Speaker 4: It's probably gonna did at anything since they didn't make it.

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Speaker 5: By the way, it's a meat Friday on a meat Monday.

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Speaker 2: Here we have bacon wrapped scallops, We have Waguo steak

717
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Speaker 2: and eggs, and we have loaded baked potatoes.

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Speaker 5: Who has it better than we do? Buddy?

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Speaker 2: All right, talk a little baseball there, But San Francisco

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Speaker 2: Giant's been very, very hospitable, and uh, I think it

721
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Speaker 2: would be nice to go over there and maybe run

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Speaker 2: the bases at some point.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, you kidding me?

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Speaker 5: Anything? Got the keys? Maybe we kind of walk the bases.

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Speaker 8: I don't know, touch and I got a real head

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Speaker 8: first slide into third kind of feeling going on.

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Speaker 10: That'd be sick.

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Speaker 5: You're gonna do Pete Rose there? The heck? Yeah?

729
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Speaker 10: Well, I mean Bay Area? Ricky Henderson, Well.

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Speaker 2: Did Ricky slide first when he stole the bass? Became

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Speaker 2: the great greatest of all time?

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Speaker 10: Now I am the greatest.

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Speaker 5: That was at third.

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Speaker 2: Base and he and he slid in head first the best.

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Speaker 2: I ran out of time with Larry Bear. I don't

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Speaker 2: a lot of things talk about there. All right, what's

737
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Speaker 2: the pole question? Results them? We'll bring in Diana Russini.

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Speaker 10: Right now we've got up there two pole questions.

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Speaker 8: We have the best musical artist from the Bay Area,

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Speaker 8: very controversial, Oh right now, Metallica, I have about thirty

741
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Speaker 8: nine percent of that vote, tie at twenty five with

742
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Speaker 8: the Journey and Great Dead Sentana and last that's unfortunate.

743
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Speaker 10: And then from Paul, we have are you a sunrise

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Speaker 10: or a sunset? And sixty eight percent of the audience

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Speaker 10: are a sunset?

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Speaker 5: Yes, Yes, I'm in the sunset of my life and I.

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Speaker 10: Oh easy, sunset.

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Speaker 6: Got a long way to go.

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Speaker 2: No, I don't like that. D uh seven seven and

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Speaker 2: a half years.

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Speaker 6: No, I don't like it.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, but you're the one that's driving me to my grave.

753
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Speaker 4: You apologize that you're gonna live a very, very.

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Speaker 5: Long, healthy life. You could be an accomplice, but I die.

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Speaker 4: It's such a harsh thing to say.

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Speaker 6: You know how I feel about it.

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Speaker 4: I know, but I'm the almost like twenty.

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Speaker 10: Five saying cause of death.

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Speaker 2: Yes, it could be natural causes slash Todd Fritz like

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Speaker 2: you could.

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Speaker 5: That's just dang joke.

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Speaker 6: It's to take an awful.

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Speaker 2: We make the smooth segue into bringing in the athletics,

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Speaker 2: senior NFL insider co host of the Athletics Scoop City

765
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Speaker 2: podcast with Chase Daniel. Diana RUSSII is on a program

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Speaker 2: look at that. No longer a mom haircut? Look at you?

767
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Speaker 2: Got a couple of kids now all of a sudden,

768
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Speaker 2: look at you.

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Speaker 11: I retired the mom, Bob you did?

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Speaker 4: You know?

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Speaker 11: I woke up the other day and I said, you know,

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Speaker 11: I want to feel young again. These kids have warned

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Speaker 11: me down.

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Speaker 12: I've aged fifteen years in a span of four years.

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Speaker 5: How many you have two kids?

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Speaker 12: Yeah?

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Speaker 11: I give two boys. They're four and three. They're thirteen

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Speaker 11: months apart.

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Speaker 12: Oh, so it's like having twins. Yeah, and I'm sure

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Speaker 12: this shocks you. But they have a lot of energy.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, but you do too.

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Speaker 11: Well, that's where they get it from.

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Speaker 12: And their father's probably ten times more energetic than I am.

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Speaker 11: So you combine that you're.

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Speaker 2: The cool mom who covers the NFL. When they get

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Speaker 2: to a certain age, it's like, what what games your

787
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Speaker 2: mom going to?

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Speaker 8: Yeah?

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Speaker 12: Maybe for now it's like, you know, have you ever

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Speaker 12: met a t rex? You know that that's what they

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Speaker 12: care about. I've facetimed players before to just try the

792
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Speaker 12: cool thing with them because they watch football with us

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Speaker 12: on Sundays and you know, we point out players and

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Speaker 12: they're little Eagles fans because their father is. So I've

795
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Speaker 12: had players just you know, say hello to them. They

796
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Speaker 12: could care less. They do not care. But if I

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Speaker 12: could FaceTime a t Rex, me'd be good, or take

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Speaker 12: them on a train.

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Speaker 2: But it's tough though, when you look at what is

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Speaker 2: real like home life with kids. They're young, and you're

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Speaker 2: still trying to do your job to your standards there.

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Speaker 12: Yeah, and also my role is a little different. I'm

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Speaker 12: not just an NFL reporter. I'm an insider, So there's

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Speaker 12: this expectation that I have to be on all the time,

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Speaker 12: and I am, but my phone's with me a lot,

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Speaker 12: and so it's balancing the act of doing my job

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Speaker 12: at a high level also not having my head and

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Speaker 12: my phone all the time because I don't want them

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Speaker 12: to pick up on those habits. And they're old enough

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Speaker 12: now to understand they know what texting is, and they

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Speaker 12: have this amazing ability that if it's like the higher

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Speaker 12: ranked the sources, the higher the level, the louder they scream.

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Speaker 7: Right.

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Speaker 12: So like my little two year old Joey, he's like

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Speaker 12: owner I'm gonna go nuts right now, you know so.

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Speaker 12: But I will say the one thing in the NFL

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Speaker 12: that I've really appreciated, and I don't think I've really

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00:41:30,280 --> 00:41:34,560
Speaker 12: ever said it out loud, how understanding the men in

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Speaker 12: this sport have been about my transition into motherhood in general,

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Speaker 12: not just because they also experience it and they've seen

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Speaker 12: their wives, but just I've been in the car before

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Speaker 12: and they're screaming or someone's yelling, and guys always like,

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Speaker 12: don't worry about it.

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Speaker 11: I'm gonna keep talking. I know you can hear me.

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Speaker 11: And this is annoying. Don't get me wrong, it's annoying.

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Speaker 12: But I've always really I had had a conversation with

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Speaker 12: an agent yesterday and my son's were screaming, and he.

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Speaker 11: Said, hey, what do I call you later? Don't worry

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Speaker 11: about go do with that.

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Speaker 12: I just I've always really appreciated that in the NFL,

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Speaker 12: especially What was.

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Speaker 5: Your best scoop this past year?

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Speaker 11: Oh? We had a lot.

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Speaker 12: I don't know if there was any one specific story

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Speaker 12: that we did this year that was gangbusters. Maybe maybe

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Speaker 12: Brandan Ayuk, which is you know, timely because we're here,

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Speaker 12: you know, he wasn't showing up. No one knew what

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Speaker 12: was going on. And Kyle Shanahan is is the best

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Speaker 12: at being transparent with the media.

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Speaker 11: He's one of my favorite coaches to cover because he

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Speaker 11: doesn't lie.

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Speaker 12: And I don't know if he does that intentionally or

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Speaker 12: he's just self aware that he's a bad liar, so

844
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Speaker 12: he just doesn't do it. Whereas you know, we've seen

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Speaker 12: so many other head coaches in football do such a

846
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Speaker 12: good job of just faking through every press conference.

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Speaker 11: So I don't know.

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Speaker 12: I just started to notice Kyle was he was just

849
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Speaker 12: saying less and less and less, and so he dug

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Speaker 12: on that a little bit.

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Speaker 11: And then it turns out, unfortunately Brendan and.

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Speaker 12: Ayuk had never been at the facility at all, Like

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Speaker 12: he wasn't even our round and so so Mike Silver

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Speaker 12: and I my colleague, we broke that on a Friday night,

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Speaker 12: and it was It caused a lot of a lot

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Speaker 12: of problems after.

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Speaker 11: That because no one wanted that out just yet. But

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Speaker 11: you know how it goes.

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Speaker 5: Give me the first question you would ask the commissioner.

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Speaker 12: Beside, I personally am interested if we're going to have

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Speaker 12: a super Bowl internationally in the next five to ten years.

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Speaker 12: I would like to know if you if we're really

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Speaker 12: going to be doing this, Because the league just released

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Speaker 12: all these international games just about a half.

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Speaker 11: An hour ago. We're just seeing more and more.

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Speaker 12: But I'd say, just based on what I was reporting

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Speaker 12: on the last two three weeks this coaching cycle, when

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Speaker 12: you're seeing so many minority candidates get passed over this process,

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00:43:48,160 --> 00:43:51,319
Speaker 12: this past month stood out the most to me. This

870
00:43:51,440 --> 00:43:54,600
Speaker 12: was the most shocking in terms of how little it

871
00:43:54,840 --> 00:43:58,800
Speaker 12: seemed and almost how fake some of this stuff appeared

872
00:43:58,800 --> 00:44:01,439
Speaker 12: to be in terms of these and how they went

873
00:44:01,480 --> 00:44:01,880
Speaker 12: about it.

874
00:44:02,080 --> 00:44:02,759
Speaker 11: And I felt like.

875
00:44:02,680 --> 00:44:04,439
Speaker 12: A lot of these teams knew exactly who they wanted

876
00:44:04,480 --> 00:44:06,360
Speaker 12: to hire, and they weren't going to be willing to

877
00:44:06,360 --> 00:44:08,200
Speaker 12: give a chance to anyone but that person that they

878
00:44:08,200 --> 00:44:08,719
Speaker 12: had on their mind.

879
00:44:08,800 --> 00:44:10,480
Speaker 5: Yeah, but how's he dealing with that question?

880
00:44:11,280 --> 00:44:14,000
Speaker 12: He's just gonna probably have to pass it off, right,

881
00:44:14,040 --> 00:44:15,600
Speaker 12: He's not going to be able to have an answer.

882
00:44:15,880 --> 00:44:18,280
Speaker 12: But I think so much of this press conference today

883
00:44:18,680 --> 00:44:21,200
Speaker 12: isn't so much about getting that direct answer, but it's

884
00:44:21,239 --> 00:44:23,560
Speaker 12: to begin conversations so in the offseason we can start

885
00:44:23,600 --> 00:44:26,640
Speaker 12: addressing it. I mean, he I don't think this is

886
00:44:26,680 --> 00:44:29,200
Speaker 12: going to be one of his easier press conferences today

887
00:44:29,280 --> 00:44:32,000
Speaker 12: with how much is in the news. Sometimes these are

888
00:44:32,040 --> 00:44:33,920
Speaker 12: just lollipop questions we go up there, they're not too

889
00:44:34,000 --> 00:44:34,399
Speaker 12: much today.

890
00:44:34,440 --> 00:44:35,799
Speaker 11: Today's going to be a heavy day for him.

891
00:44:36,160 --> 00:44:39,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, but you know it's it's like when you are

892
00:44:39,239 --> 00:44:41,080
Speaker 2: going to be deposed and your lawyer said, all right,

893
00:44:41,080 --> 00:44:43,759
Speaker 2: here's the questions they're going to ask you, and he's

894
00:44:43,840 --> 00:44:46,359
Speaker 2: gonna be ready to go, and somebody's going to say,

895
00:44:46,760 --> 00:44:51,359
Speaker 2: Steve Tish, Giana's owner and the Epstein files eighteen game

896
00:44:51,400 --> 00:44:56,000
Speaker 2: schedule international, everybody's going to play an international game.

897
00:44:57,200 --> 00:45:01,080
Speaker 5: The turf ref's officials. Yeah, transparency.

898
00:45:01,480 --> 00:45:06,600
Speaker 12: I know you're upset about the Robert. Is it bothering

899
00:45:06,640 --> 00:45:10,040
Speaker 12: you that your that your head coach got out game

900
00:45:10,120 --> 00:45:11,439
Speaker 12: managed by the opposing coach?

901
00:45:11,560 --> 00:45:12,000
Speaker 5: Wow?

902
00:45:12,520 --> 00:45:13,800
Speaker 6: Wow, I can't.

903
00:45:15,040 --> 00:45:16,959
Speaker 4: It's very touching scene.

904
00:45:17,080 --> 00:45:19,440
Speaker 12: So you guys have heard of a guy named Stretch right,

905
00:45:19,520 --> 00:45:21,560
Speaker 12: John Stryker has this name? Have you heard it through

906
00:45:21,600 --> 00:45:24,759
Speaker 12: a couple of interviews. He is Mike Rabel's right hand man.

907
00:45:25,360 --> 00:45:29,680
Speaker 12: He's the genius behind that six foot four, two hundred

908
00:45:29,680 --> 00:45:30,759
Speaker 12: and sixty pound head coach.

909
00:45:30,800 --> 00:45:34,280
Speaker 11: He's the brains in there that uh he's actually stretches,

910
00:45:34,280 --> 00:45:35,520
Speaker 11: actually six six himself.

911
00:45:36,920 --> 00:45:41,160
Speaker 12: Those two have truly become experts of the game. I

912
00:45:41,560 --> 00:45:43,640
Speaker 12: think they're the best game managers of any head coach.

913
00:45:43,960 --> 00:45:45,799
Speaker 12: They know this stuff, they have the bandwidth for it,

914
00:45:45,840 --> 00:45:50,040
Speaker 12: They're obsessed with it. Rabel's obviously on the Competition Committee,

915
00:45:50,040 --> 00:45:53,279
Speaker 12: so he knows the rules in and out, and and

916
00:45:53,520 --> 00:45:55,600
Speaker 12: I consider Sean Payton to be one of the brightest

917
00:45:55,600 --> 00:45:59,680
Speaker 12: coaches as well. And they lost that game because Mike

918
00:45:59,719 --> 00:46:01,799
Speaker 12: Rebel out smarter them. And that's why I think the

919
00:46:01,800 --> 00:46:03,680
Speaker 12: Super Bowl, by the way, is gonna.

920
00:46:03,520 --> 00:46:05,879
Speaker 11: Talent wise, like on paper, Seattle's better.

921
00:46:06,080 --> 00:46:09,800
Speaker 12: Yeah, they are, but this could come down to something

922
00:46:09,880 --> 00:46:12,759
Speaker 12: weird and bizarre that that Rabel pulls out of his

923
00:46:12,760 --> 00:46:16,160
Speaker 12: back pocket this just because he knows it so well.

924
00:46:16,800 --> 00:46:18,880
Speaker 2: When's the last time you got yelled at by a

925
00:46:19,120 --> 00:46:19,840
Speaker 2: coach or player?

926
00:46:19,960 --> 00:46:20,480
Speaker 11: Mike Rabel?

927
00:46:23,840 --> 00:46:24,160
Speaker 3: Uh?

928
00:46:24,239 --> 00:46:25,719
Speaker 11: It was actually the.

929
00:46:27,360 --> 00:46:27,879
Speaker 3: It was.

930
00:46:27,920 --> 00:46:29,719
Speaker 11: It was pretty It was a genuine yell.

931
00:46:31,080 --> 00:46:34,719
Speaker 12: It was the year he was out and I was

932
00:46:35,239 --> 00:46:38,000
Speaker 12: at the Senior Bowl and I'd had two back to

933
00:46:38,040 --> 00:46:40,800
Speaker 12: back dinners with general managers, so it was like a

934
00:46:41,360 --> 00:46:44,319
Speaker 12: double booked but I had to make it work. And

935
00:46:44,360 --> 00:46:47,520
Speaker 12: I had the same conversation with both these gms and

936
00:46:47,560 --> 00:46:49,960
Speaker 12: they were asking me, why do I think that Mike

937
00:46:50,040 --> 00:46:52,080
Speaker 12: Rabel didn't have a job, Like, why isn't he a

938
00:46:52,160 --> 00:46:52,960
Speaker 12: head coach right now?

939
00:46:53,920 --> 00:46:54,719
Speaker 11: And I said, I don't know.

940
00:46:54,800 --> 00:46:56,320
Speaker 12: I was like, I covered him a lot in Tennessee.

941
00:46:56,760 --> 00:46:59,560
Speaker 12: I thought he was collaborative, he's a leader of players.

942
00:46:59,280 --> 00:46:59,600
Speaker 8: Leve him.

943
00:46:59,600 --> 00:46:59,920
Speaker 7: I don't know.

944
00:47:00,800 --> 00:47:02,960
Speaker 11: And they both offered up that they thought that he

945
00:47:03,120 --> 00:47:05,120
Speaker 11: was too physically intimidating.

946
00:47:05,960 --> 00:47:09,239
Speaker 12: So the New York Post sees this, or excuse me,

947
00:47:09,320 --> 00:47:11,919
Speaker 12: I go on a podcast, The New York Post hears it,

948
00:47:12,280 --> 00:47:17,680
Speaker 12: and it went from an intimidating figure that is perhaps scaring.

949
00:47:17,360 --> 00:47:22,520
Speaker 11: Owners to like Mike Vrabel's too fat to get it.

950
00:47:23,400 --> 00:47:24,640
Speaker 11: So he called me.

951
00:47:24,640 --> 00:47:29,319
Speaker 12: He's like, why would you ever report that? That's ridiculous,

952
00:47:29,360 --> 00:47:32,239
Speaker 12: That's not even true. I'm like, are you asking me

953
00:47:32,280 --> 00:47:36,359
Speaker 12: if I think you're fat? You know? So, So that

954
00:47:36,480 --> 00:47:39,600
Speaker 12: was that was not fun because I just think, you know,

955
00:47:39,760 --> 00:47:40,560
Speaker 12: he didn't warn.

956
00:47:40,400 --> 00:47:41,719
Speaker 5: The record, you weren't calling him.

957
00:47:41,960 --> 00:47:45,480
Speaker 11: No, No, I was really just relaying.

958
00:47:46,920 --> 00:47:51,080
Speaker 12: That I was relaying to I think it was Chase

959
00:47:51,160 --> 00:47:53,040
Speaker 12: on the podcast that Hey, I.

960
00:47:53,040 --> 00:47:54,439
Speaker 11: Was basically doing what I do all the time.

961
00:47:54,480 --> 00:47:56,799
Speaker 12: Hey, I had these conversations with you general managers and

962
00:47:56,840 --> 00:47:59,040
Speaker 12: they told me this is why they think, uh, you know,

963
00:47:59,160 --> 00:48:01,760
Speaker 12: Raves doesn't have a and I just think that's interesting

964
00:48:01,800 --> 00:48:04,440
Speaker 12: because the guy's so physically large, it's going to prevent

965
00:48:04,480 --> 00:48:05,719
Speaker 12: an owner from hiring him.

966
00:48:05,719 --> 00:48:06,360
Speaker 11: That's stupid.

967
00:48:06,560 --> 00:48:07,640
Speaker 5: Paulie, do you have the article?

968
00:48:07,800 --> 00:48:10,880
Speaker 7: Yeah, I found the article from February last year or

969
00:48:10,880 --> 00:48:14,040
Speaker 7: two years ago. Mike rab the headline Mike Rabel's physical

970
00:48:14,040 --> 00:48:17,120
Speaker 7: appearance may have been too intimidating and turn teams off

971
00:48:17,320 --> 00:48:19,319
Speaker 7: Dane or any credited which was.

972
00:48:19,320 --> 00:48:20,799
Speaker 11: The truth of what it was.

973
00:48:22,239 --> 00:48:24,759
Speaker 12: But you know, I'm glad that you asked me about

974
00:48:24,760 --> 00:48:28,200
Speaker 12: getting yelled at. I probably spend more time on the

975
00:48:28,280 --> 00:48:31,520
Speaker 12: phone arguing with people in the league because I'm sure

976
00:48:31,560 --> 00:48:34,360
Speaker 12: you guys are aware and you know this well. Everyone

977
00:48:34,440 --> 00:48:37,200
Speaker 12: is so paranoid about information and they want it, they

978
00:48:37,239 --> 00:48:41,319
Speaker 12: want control over it. And I like to dig and

979
00:48:41,360 --> 00:48:43,680
Speaker 12: sometimes I like to poke around in places where people

980
00:48:43,680 --> 00:48:46,520
Speaker 12: don't want to be poked. And and you have to

981
00:48:46,560 --> 00:48:49,600
Speaker 12: have an ironclad stomach in this league to deal with it.

982
00:48:49,640 --> 00:48:52,319
Speaker 12: Because there's a lot of yelling going on in my

983
00:48:52,360 --> 00:48:55,320
Speaker 12: house and it's on the other line. My husband jokes

984
00:48:55,320 --> 00:48:57,440
Speaker 12: all the time, he's like, you fight with more people

985
00:48:57,480 --> 00:49:01,240
Speaker 12: in football than we fight it and I'm a different

986
00:49:01,239 --> 00:49:04,399
Speaker 12: person obviously, like I have to be different with these

987
00:49:04,440 --> 00:49:07,200
Speaker 12: guys because they want to push you around and they

988
00:49:07,239 --> 00:49:08,760
Speaker 12: want a story told a certain way.

989
00:49:09,840 --> 00:49:11,080
Speaker 11: But the truth is the truth.

990
00:49:11,960 --> 00:49:14,400
Speaker 2: Do you think we're playing a super Bowl outside the

991
00:49:14,520 --> 00:49:16,920
Speaker 2: United States in five if I said five and a

992
00:49:16,920 --> 00:49:20,959
Speaker 2: half years, the over under because everything's gambling, so yeah,

993
00:49:21,440 --> 00:49:21,759
Speaker 2: it is.

994
00:49:22,400 --> 00:49:26,960
Speaker 11: I do think I think I want it in Italy.

995
00:49:27,080 --> 00:49:35,799
Speaker 12: But see now everyone's sport the coliseum.

996
00:49:34,680 --> 00:49:36,560
Speaker 11: Are our friends Big Cat and PFT.

997
00:49:36,640 --> 00:49:38,040
Speaker 12: They give you a hard time because they know them

998
00:49:38,080 --> 00:49:39,640
Speaker 12: all about the International super Bowl game.

999
00:49:39,640 --> 00:49:41,480
Speaker 11: Because I just think that would be such a great.

1000
00:49:41,280 --> 00:49:44,920
Speaker 12: Experience because they obviously wanted here because it's an American sport.

1001
00:49:44,800 --> 00:49:48,000
Speaker 11: And I get that too, But but why not do

1002
00:49:48,080 --> 00:49:48,480
Speaker 11: it in a.

1003
00:49:48,440 --> 00:49:51,200
Speaker 12: Place that that, like like Tokyo, even where where there

1004
00:49:51,480 --> 00:49:54,120
Speaker 12: could be so much growth and it could be popular.

1005
00:49:54,160 --> 00:49:56,319
Speaker 12: The problem is just not as popular, you know, Like

1006
00:49:56,520 --> 00:49:57,799
Speaker 12: there's not gonna be a lot of fans there.

1007
00:49:57,840 --> 00:49:58,400
Speaker 11: I don't think a lot of.

1008
00:49:58,360 --> 00:50:01,560
Speaker 12: People are gonna take trips to to go see it.

1009
00:50:01,600 --> 00:50:02,560
Speaker 11: I don't believe that.

1010
00:50:02,640 --> 00:50:04,120
Speaker 5: I think you have to do it in London. I

1011
00:50:04,120 --> 00:50:05,360
Speaker 5: think you have to be fair.

1012
00:50:05,360 --> 00:50:08,120
Speaker 12: Start there in London because hey, we started it here,

1013
00:50:08,160 --> 00:50:09,200
Speaker 12: we grew it here. Yeah.

1014
00:50:09,280 --> 00:50:10,640
Speaker 11: No, no, that would make sense.

1015
00:50:10,440 --> 00:50:12,319
Speaker 2: And people would go to London, you know, it's not

1016
00:50:12,680 --> 00:50:16,160
Speaker 2: you know, crazy travel to get over there, so I

1017
00:50:16,480 --> 00:50:17,520
Speaker 2: could see them doing that.

1018
00:50:17,960 --> 00:50:19,480
Speaker 11: What number super Bowl is this for you?

1019
00:50:19,960 --> 00:50:24,440
Speaker 2: I lost track you did. Yeah, it's probably thirty seven.

1020
00:50:25,080 --> 00:50:25,960
Speaker 11: That's unbelievable.

1021
00:50:26,040 --> 00:50:27,359
Speaker 5: Yeah, thirty six.

1022
00:50:28,200 --> 00:50:29,920
Speaker 11: What's one that stands out for you?

1023
00:50:30,280 --> 00:50:30,960
Speaker 5: Oh?

1024
00:50:30,680 --> 00:50:35,359
Speaker 2: The Seattle Patriots one really well, because I'm and I've

1025
00:50:35,400 --> 00:50:38,040
Speaker 2: told this story to my audience, but I'm under the

1026
00:50:38,040 --> 00:50:42,040
Speaker 2: goal post and so I'm handing out the trophy. So

1027
00:50:42,680 --> 00:50:45,759
Speaker 2: I'm I'm waiting for Marshawn Lynch to come. So he

1028
00:50:45,880 --> 00:50:48,399
Speaker 2: lines up to the right of Russell. Russell sends him

1029
00:50:48,400 --> 00:50:51,320
Speaker 2: over to the left, and I'm going here he comes,

1030
00:50:52,600 --> 00:50:55,520
Speaker 2: and I'm just watching Marshawn Lynch and I'm going, Okay,

1031
00:50:55,680 --> 00:50:58,520
Speaker 2: I'm running through the rolodex of Okay, Russ will be MVP,

1032
00:50:59,160 --> 00:51:01,880
Speaker 2: marsh Marshall Lynch of Pea, Pete Carroll's gonna be up

1033
00:51:01,880 --> 00:51:04,840
Speaker 2: there is Paul Allen, Like you know, you start go

1034
00:51:04,880 --> 00:51:08,160
Speaker 2: who am I interviewing? Next thing I know, Russ goes

1035
00:51:08,200 --> 00:51:12,400
Speaker 2: back to pass and I'm with my producer and I go, oh, bleep,

1036
00:51:13,320 --> 00:51:15,760
Speaker 2: like just throwing the pass. I didn't even know what happened.

1037
00:51:16,080 --> 00:51:18,680
Speaker 2: Next thing I know, I go, man, Malcolm Butler, not that.

1038
00:51:18,800 --> 00:51:20,200
Speaker 5: Malcolm Butler's got that.

1039
00:51:20,880 --> 00:51:25,640
Speaker 2: And I went, Okay, Robert Kraft Brady, who Gronk will

1040
00:51:25,640 --> 00:51:27,520
Speaker 2: be up? There is Malcolm Butler, babe. You know all

1041
00:51:27,560 --> 00:51:29,840
Speaker 2: these things that went through my mind just tremendous that.

1042
00:51:29,840 --> 00:51:31,680
Speaker 11: You had to maneuver that so quickly.

1043
00:51:32,239 --> 00:51:35,680
Speaker 12: I did my first NFL sideline game for Netflix this Christmas.

1044
00:51:37,120 --> 00:51:38,879
Speaker 12: You know, usually when you guys have seen me on TV,

1045
00:51:38,960 --> 00:51:41,040
Speaker 12: it's pregame, postgame XFL.

1046
00:51:41,080 --> 00:51:43,480
Speaker 11: I did sidelines, but I mean, what was that. I

1047
00:51:43,520 --> 00:51:44,239
Speaker 11: don't know what that was.

1048
00:51:45,200 --> 00:51:46,120
Speaker 5: Those are just rapp.

1049
00:51:47,040 --> 00:51:49,239
Speaker 11: All I know is that was the fittest I ever was.

1050
00:51:49,280 --> 00:51:51,840
Speaker 12: Like I remember, I had a coach in the NFL

1051
00:51:51,880 --> 00:51:54,120
Speaker 12: text me was like, you're on camera all the time,

1052
00:51:54,160 --> 00:51:55,120
Speaker 12: but you're not talking.

1053
00:51:55,400 --> 00:51:57,000
Speaker 5: You're just running out.

1054
00:51:58,040 --> 00:51:59,919
Speaker 12: I took your way too literal that the USPR wanted

1055
00:52:00,239 --> 00:52:06,719
Speaker 12: that entertaining, but that the postgame interview is so much

1056
00:52:06,800 --> 00:52:09,319
Speaker 12: harder than it appears, which is why people like you

1057
00:52:09,360 --> 00:52:11,880
Speaker 12: and Nancy and Tracy Wilson and Aaron Arels and the

1058
00:52:11,880 --> 00:52:14,239
Speaker 12: people that we see to do it, Melissa Storic, We'll

1059
00:52:14,239 --> 00:52:15,320
Speaker 12: see at the super Bowl.

1060
00:52:15,560 --> 00:52:18,200
Speaker 11: They make it look easy, but it's very difficult.

1061
00:52:17,880 --> 00:52:20,520
Speaker 12: Especially in a moment like that where it switches up

1062
00:52:20,600 --> 00:52:23,640
Speaker 12: so fast. Yeah, and oh ps, you're a human being too.

1063
00:52:23,800 --> 00:52:25,920
Speaker 12: Your adrenaline is going through the roof.

1064
00:52:26,239 --> 00:52:29,799
Speaker 2: But this happened with Pittsburgh and Arizona. Arizona is gonna

1065
00:52:29,800 --> 00:52:33,319
Speaker 2: win the Super Bowl. Ben leads them down, throws the

1066
00:52:33,400 --> 00:52:36,920
Speaker 2: touchdown pad. So I'm doing Rolodex with the Cardinals and

1067
00:52:36,960 --> 00:52:39,800
Speaker 2: then all of a sudden, Ben throws the perfect pass,

1068
00:52:40,480 --> 00:52:43,400
Speaker 2: and all of a sudden, I'm going Now I'm on

1069
00:52:43,440 --> 00:52:47,120
Speaker 2: the podium and then here's Ben. Ben thinks he's the MVP.

1070
00:52:47,760 --> 00:52:50,440
Speaker 2: I don't even know who the MVP is because Santonio

1071
00:52:50,480 --> 00:52:53,640
Speaker 2: Holmes has caught this, and it happens so quickly, and

1072
00:52:53,680 --> 00:52:57,320
Speaker 2: it's like thirty seconds before you're going live, and I'm yelling,

1073
00:52:58,040 --> 00:53:01,160
Speaker 2: yelling down to anybody who is the MV. Nobody's saying

1074
00:53:01,200 --> 00:53:04,359
Speaker 2: anything because it's it's chaos, and then somebody walks by.

1075
00:53:04,400 --> 00:53:06,600
Speaker 2: Eventually I'm gonna stay five times, they yoda.

1076
00:53:06,640 --> 00:53:07,359
Speaker 4: Who is the MV?

1077
00:53:07,680 --> 00:53:08,520
Speaker 5: Can somebody tell you?

1078
00:53:08,520 --> 00:53:08,719
Speaker 6: Man?

1079
00:53:09,520 --> 00:53:12,359
Speaker 2: Meanwhile, I got the Steelers are coming up. I got

1080
00:53:12,400 --> 00:53:15,520
Speaker 2: Ben coming up, and I'm like, and somebody else out

1081
00:53:15,520 --> 00:53:19,359
Speaker 2: homes and I go, oh my god. Then I get

1082
00:53:19,360 --> 00:53:23,239
Speaker 2: in my headset Joe Namas bringing the trophy up, and

1083
00:53:23,400 --> 00:53:25,480
Speaker 2: you know, the Commissioner's going, are you gonna are you

1084
00:53:25,480 --> 00:53:27,719
Speaker 2: gonna introduce me? Are you gonna introduce me? Said yeah, oh,

1085
00:53:27,719 --> 00:53:31,920
Speaker 2: I introduce like it's chaos, chaos, chaos, chaos. And then it,

1086
00:53:32,480 --> 00:53:34,920
Speaker 2: you know, it hits you that there's one hundred million

1087
00:53:35,000 --> 00:53:37,839
Speaker 2: people watching and all you want to do is get

1088
00:53:37,880 --> 00:53:38,560
Speaker 2: off the stage.

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Speaker 5: That's it.

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00:53:39,680 --> 00:53:42,759
Speaker 2: And I just remember I got off the stage, and

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00:53:42,800 --> 00:53:48,040
Speaker 2: I just remember it's chaos, confetti players, and it's as

1092
00:53:48,040 --> 00:53:51,000
Speaker 2: if I'm in a vacuum. I didn't hear any noise whatsoever.

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00:53:51,120 --> 00:53:53,319
Speaker 2: I just walked to my trailer at NBC and sat

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00:53:53,360 --> 00:53:55,759
Speaker 2: in there for like a half hour, and I'm going,

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00:53:56,040 --> 00:53:59,480
Speaker 2: oh my god, I don't know what just happened. It was,

1096
00:54:01,160 --> 00:54:05,200
Speaker 2: you know, Kurt Warner, Larry Fitzgerald, They're gonna win this, okay.

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00:54:05,239 --> 00:54:06,839
Speaker 2: And then all of a sudden I.

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00:54:06,840 --> 00:54:08,239
Speaker 5: Completed that touch it.

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Speaker 1: Damn.

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Speaker 5: Good night Back to you, Bob.

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Speaker 4: Not much.

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Speaker 11: How long does it take you to go to sleep

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00:54:15,600 --> 00:54:19,439
Speaker 11: after a night like that again, then adrenaline again.

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Speaker 5: It is just like a puss long time.

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00:54:22,239 --> 00:54:25,000
Speaker 2: It's one of the greatest moments because I didn't tell

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00:54:25,040 --> 00:54:27,520
Speaker 2: anybody I was handing out the trophy in my family.

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00:54:27,600 --> 00:54:30,120
Speaker 11: Oh so they're sitting at home watching, Well.

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00:54:30,040 --> 00:54:32,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, you got people saying you're handing out the trophy

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00:54:32,640 --> 00:54:36,520
Speaker 2: and I'm like, yeah, you know. But I didn't want

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00:54:36,560 --> 00:54:40,360
Speaker 2: to tell them. I wanted them to watch in real time,

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00:54:40,640 --> 00:54:43,680
Speaker 2: and so I didn't tell anybody. But I went back

1112
00:54:44,280 --> 00:54:46,319
Speaker 2: and I remember I turned on an episode of the

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00:54:46,400 --> 00:54:50,279
Speaker 2: Office and I just sat there by myself and had

1114
00:54:50,320 --> 00:54:54,080
Speaker 2: a beer. I'm in a trailer and I'm gone, I

1115
00:54:54,160 --> 00:54:57,200
Speaker 2: don't know if this is supposed to be, but it was.

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00:54:57,320 --> 00:54:58,800
Speaker 5: It was great. You just did your job.

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00:54:59,239 --> 00:55:00,759
Speaker 2: And then I went I had a beer and I

1118
00:55:00,760 --> 00:55:03,359
Speaker 2: sat and watched an episode of the Office, and then

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00:55:03,400 --> 00:55:07,640
Speaker 2: that was it. So one hundred million people. Now I'm

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00:55:07,680 --> 00:55:09,720
Speaker 2: screwed up, by the way in front of a hundred

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Speaker 2: million people.

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Speaker 11: But yeah, but was Twitter around when you did that. Yeah, that's.

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Speaker 12: I mean, even just like I was having this conversation

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Speaker 12: with someone last night, even just journalism in twenty twenty six,

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Speaker 12: and I'm not going to bore everybody with that conversation

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00:55:23,920 --> 00:55:27,600
Speaker 12: of how it just it's so difficult to report and

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00:55:28,600 --> 00:55:33,960
Speaker 12: accurately and thoroughly without people taking apart your piece and

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00:55:34,360 --> 00:55:36,040
Speaker 12: really putting it out the way they would like to.

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Speaker 12: So we did a story Alec Lewis and I my

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Speaker 12: my colleague who covers the Minnesota Vikings very closely. He

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00:55:42,080 --> 00:55:45,200
Speaker 12: and I did a story yesterday on why they fired

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Speaker 12: their general manager, and.

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Speaker 11: Essentially we laid out all the reasons it was.

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00:55:49,040 --> 00:55:51,359
Speaker 12: It was the draft picks that they didn't hit on,

1135
00:55:51,400 --> 00:55:54,239
Speaker 12: some of the free agents obviously, the quarterback situation right,

1136
00:55:54,600 --> 00:55:57,200
Speaker 12: the timing, all of all this was bizarre, but we

1137
00:55:57,280 --> 00:56:00,640
Speaker 12: peeled it back a little bit more to remind the readers, Hey,

1138
00:56:00,760 --> 00:56:02,759
Speaker 12: remember this was a little bit of an outside the

1139
00:56:02,800 --> 00:56:05,280
Speaker 12: box hire. This is someone that came from Wall Street

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Speaker 12: and finance like he. This isn't like some guy that was,

1141
00:56:08,480 --> 00:56:11,520
Speaker 12: you know, working in seventeen different organizations.

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00:56:10,880 --> 00:56:12,000
Speaker 11: Is working his way up.

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00:56:12,239 --> 00:56:14,680
Speaker 12: And part of the difference in what he the way

1144
00:56:14,760 --> 00:56:18,680
Speaker 12: he managed was he took paternity leave for his first

1145
00:56:18,680 --> 00:56:21,240
Speaker 12: and second child actually while he was the general manager

1146
00:56:21,280 --> 00:56:23,439
Speaker 12: of the Vikings, so he took about two weeks off.

1147
00:56:23,480 --> 00:56:27,359
Speaker 12: He didn't go to practice, he worked remotely, and that's

1148
00:56:27,400 --> 00:56:30,640
Speaker 12: all anyone can talk about now is that he took

1149
00:56:30,680 --> 00:56:32,880
Speaker 12: he was fired because he took maternity, which is not

1150
00:56:33,440 --> 00:56:36,480
Speaker 12: what He did. Not get fired because he took maternity

1151
00:56:36,760 --> 00:56:39,480
Speaker 12: or paternity leave. But but this is just kind of

1152
00:56:39,520 --> 00:56:41,080
Speaker 12: the this is where that's a.

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Speaker 2: Sexy poll quote for somebody. Yeah, man, can you believe that?

1154
00:56:44,440 --> 00:56:48,040
Speaker 12: And you're like, uh, that's terrible because it's not the truth.

1155
00:56:48,080 --> 00:56:50,120
Speaker 12: It's not fair to the Minnesota Vikings. If anything, the

1156
00:56:50,120 --> 00:56:52,279
Speaker 12: conversation that needs to be had is probably does the

1157
00:56:52,360 --> 00:56:55,120
Speaker 12: league need to maybe change the culture a bit and

1158
00:56:55,200 --> 00:56:57,400
Speaker 12: allow dads to take a little bit more time for

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Speaker 12: their partners, uh, and for their babies. I can tell

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Speaker 12: you my husband tried doing that and day five, I'm like,

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00:57:03,920 --> 00:57:07,560
Speaker 12: go to work, go to work. Stop looking at me,

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00:57:07,920 --> 00:57:11,520
Speaker 12: stop touching me, stop holding the baby. No one likes

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00:57:11,560 --> 00:57:13,839
Speaker 12: you here and I definitely don't. And then I got

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Speaker 12: pregnant again, so that didn't last long time.

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Speaker 5: Parent you let it touch you, Yes, I don't.

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Speaker 2: Diana Russini, the athletic senior NFL Insider co host of

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Speaker 2: the Athletics Scoop City podcast with Chase Daniel, Thank you

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Speaker 2: for stopping by.

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Speaker 11: Thank you, it's so lovely to meet you in person, and.

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Speaker 10: Well, thank you.

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Speaker 5: Jacob break