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Speaker 1: Y'all know I restart off every show. What's up with that?

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Speaker 2: Dude?

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Speaker 1: Well, let me just tell you. Friday after the show,

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Speaker 1: went golfing. That always makes me feel like I got

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Speaker 1: five more dollars than I do.

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Speaker 2: I don't know.

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Speaker 1: Every time I see somebody on the golf course, I'm like,

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Speaker 1: they doing alright in life, even though don't know nothing golf,

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Speaker 1: especially during the week, during the weekday, during work hours,

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Speaker 2: I wasn't living too well on that course.

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Speaker 1: I didn't have as good a performance as I did

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Speaker 2: Went out there with Justin Charles and Merrill.

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Speaker 1: Meryll played she played college golf, so she was killing

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Speaker 1: us and she pace she just go up to the t.

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Speaker 2: One little practice, see work. Wow.

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Speaker 1: I was straight too fitty. I was like, hell, she's

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Speaker 1: doing all right. But she had that muscles a muscle

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Speaker 1: memory from college. Love to those guys. Justin's my guy,

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Speaker 1: investment banker, homeboy, former pro baseball player, shot out to

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Speaker 1: him and Charles, who's an amazing guy out there doing

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Speaker 1: real estate. More importantly, raising some minty biddies that are

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Speaker 1: balling out of control. Look forward to seeing what they do.

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Speaker 1: Little man just took a recruiting trip to Utah. That's dope,

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Speaker 1: you know, he balling out of control. Anyway, after that,

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Speaker 1: of gas. Seriously, I had to go from if y'all

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Speaker 1: it was crazy, right, but we had a basketball game

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Speaker 2: Let me tell you all what happened at the basketball game.

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Speaker 2: We won again. We're undefeated right now.

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Speaker 1: Shout out to our coach Jesse Buss, respect my dog

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Speaker 2: It's funny during games he doesn't say anything.

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Speaker 1: He got all these stats and he got all this

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Speaker 1: this is how you coach. You'd be like this, and

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Speaker 2: He break them down real quick. Give him some words

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Speaker 1: Meanwhile, I'm out there coaching like I'm a pe teacher

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Speaker 2: All right, hey, run all right, turn your shoulder.

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Speaker 1: I'm like coaching like that Nott coach. Right, But I

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you what you're doing great, tell you

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Speaker 2: Well, one of them parents must have took that advice

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Speaker 1: one ondred cruxy. The issue is she used to coach

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Speaker 1: Like, I don't care if anybody likes me. I'm here

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Speaker 2: Tell me not let this dude ball handle every team.

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Speaker 2: Everyone has a role, everybody. I don't care.

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Speaker 1: I never got the ball one time in the NFL.

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Speaker 1: We had the kids went over to the Westbrooks house.

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Speaker 1: Our family shout out to Russell westbrookcause he's a Clipper.

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Speaker 2: And I was like, damn, why you gotta do that?

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Speaker 2: I know all, but you make it.

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Speaker 1: They call him Cooper Cup. I call him little Oldest.

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Speaker 1: I call him little OLG, little og hair all down long.

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Speaker 1: First time we ever played, first game ever we played him.

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Speaker 1: What I told my kids is, y'all don't understand how

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Speaker 2: And now look at us. So excited for that.

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Speaker 1: And I'm gonna have Courtney show y'all the videos because

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Speaker 1: y'all be like, so I talking about MJ and.

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Speaker 1: So YouTube never shut up, brings TV, reach TV. Y'all

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Speaker 1: get the clips as well. Courtney gonna show y'all them clips.

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Speaker 2: This is a real show.

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Speaker 1: And if you guys noticed something right now, I'm going

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Speaker 1: to put the whole show out.

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Speaker 2: And that's it.

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Speaker 1: No clips, why cause there's so many things I'm saying

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Speaker 2: We got to sit down and we got to talk

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Speaker 3: If you got to use the bathroom, man, leave it

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Speaker 2: Don't talk to me.

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Speaker 3: You can't live like that, man, Like, no, listen, like

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Speaker 2: Man, you can't do that. Man, Oh Joe, I go,

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Speaker 2: but you can't live like I go. I go.

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Speaker 4: I know, no, No, I don't go to the bad

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Speaker 4: And I don't walk with the table, you know what.

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Speaker 1: They've been together since twenty twenty and they got a

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Speaker 1: This struck home with me because my wife and I

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Speaker 1: I can't go nowhere without knowing somebody ain't got nothing

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Speaker 2: It got to do it. I'm from here. Food and

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Speaker 1: Oh it was silly, and all the finest girls in

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Speaker 1: wasn't going to a wedding, and it wasn't going to

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00:19:03,320 --> 00:19:05,919
Speaker 1: an altar. And then I met my wife, and this

437
00:19:05,960 --> 00:19:10,120
Speaker 1: is what happened. I always was so real and wrong

438
00:19:10,200 --> 00:19:12,920
Speaker 1: with people. Y'all know me, so even girls I dated.

439
00:19:13,000 --> 00:19:14,919
Speaker 1: That was part of the reason why I was still single.

440
00:19:15,200 --> 00:19:17,200
Speaker 1: Cause I tell a girl everything. She'd be like, that's

441
00:19:17,240 --> 00:19:20,840
Speaker 1: too much. I was like, well, welcome to a real person. Sorry,

442
00:19:20,960 --> 00:19:23,119
Speaker 1: go back over there and meet them representatives that you

443
00:19:23,240 --> 00:19:25,680
Speaker 1: keep meeting and then they keep dumping you in six months.

444
00:19:25,800 --> 00:19:27,600
Speaker 2: It's while we're here together right now.

445
00:19:27,760 --> 00:19:30,720
Speaker 1: Anyway, I kept telling the real and then I met

446
00:19:30,720 --> 00:19:36,240
Speaker 1: my wife, and I answered every question painfully with honesty

447
00:19:37,400 --> 00:19:39,520
Speaker 1: and she wasn't used to that. Now she's a small

448
00:19:39,560 --> 00:19:41,880
Speaker 1: town girl who tried to put on her big, her

449
00:19:41,880 --> 00:19:44,000
Speaker 1: big girl suit. You know, she come to La from

450
00:19:44,000 --> 00:19:47,240
Speaker 1: abbage Fruit, some farm town that smell like booboo for real,

451
00:19:47,600 --> 00:19:50,119
Speaker 1: I mean it really does. It's a farm town. Like,

452
00:19:50,240 --> 00:19:52,440
Speaker 1: she come to La with this new armor. I got

453
00:19:52,440 --> 00:19:54,120
Speaker 1: to look the part, act the part, be the part

454
00:19:54,200 --> 00:19:58,440
Speaker 1: representative number one and I was like, girl, I ain't

455
00:19:58,520 --> 00:20:04,000
Speaker 1: like that. And she felt energized. She felt empowered just

456
00:20:04,040 --> 00:20:08,639
Speaker 1: because I was being real. Examples being like our second

457
00:20:08,680 --> 00:20:11,000
Speaker 1: third night. She was like, what's that bottle? And I

458
00:20:11,040 --> 00:20:12,199
Speaker 1: was like, what my pea bottle?

459
00:20:12,440 --> 00:20:16,120
Speaker 2: And she was like, I was like, what you think

460
00:20:16,119 --> 00:20:18,159
Speaker 2: I'm about to pull over every time I gotta pee.

461
00:20:18,240 --> 00:20:20,040
Speaker 2: You think I'm getting up out the bed every time

462
00:20:20,080 --> 00:20:22,040
Speaker 2: I got a pee? Like, that's a pea bottle. What's

463
00:20:22,040 --> 00:20:23,800
Speaker 2: her problem? Excuse me?

464
00:20:24,160 --> 00:20:26,960
Speaker 1: Went to the bathroom, door open, went to the bathroom,

465
00:20:27,000 --> 00:20:31,240
Speaker 1: close your ears, clog up your nose, like I was

466
00:20:31,320 --> 00:20:34,000
Speaker 1: living right in front of her immediately, and I swear

467
00:20:34,080 --> 00:20:37,840
Speaker 1: it undressed her to stop pretending. Stop sending that rep

468
00:20:37,960 --> 00:20:40,760
Speaker 1: out there right And I told her people.

469
00:20:40,640 --> 00:20:43,879
Speaker 2: That she may know that I know that we know

470
00:20:44,000 --> 00:20:46,399
Speaker 2: each other, and she may.

471
00:20:46,320 --> 00:20:49,040
Speaker 1: Run into it and protect her from the unexpected, protect

472
00:20:49,080 --> 00:20:51,080
Speaker 1: her from that flex. You know how girls re acting

473
00:20:51,080 --> 00:20:53,280
Speaker 1: when they know him tomorrowady, somebody already know I alrea't

474
00:20:53,320 --> 00:20:54,520
Speaker 1: messed around with, and they walk back.

475
00:20:56,600 --> 00:21:02,600
Speaker 2: I guess well. My wife was like, yeah, I know, girl,

476
00:21:02,800 --> 00:21:05,359
Speaker 2: stop say all y'all cool, steal it.

477
00:21:05,920 --> 00:21:09,000
Speaker 1: I was like, eh, baby, you're getting it, that farmtown

478
00:21:09,040 --> 00:21:11,680
Speaker 1: girl back, put your overalls back on, let's go right.

479
00:21:12,080 --> 00:21:14,200
Speaker 1: And she just felt empowered to be her true self

480
00:21:14,480 --> 00:21:16,679
Speaker 1: by showing who she really was.

481
00:21:17,000 --> 00:21:19,280
Speaker 2: And this story reminds me just of that.

482
00:21:19,720 --> 00:21:22,760
Speaker 1: So in y'all relationships and y'all situations, I wonder how

483
00:21:22,800 --> 00:21:25,560
Speaker 1: real are y'all being? Because this was a good conversation,

484
00:21:25,840 --> 00:21:29,200
Speaker 1: How really y'all really being? Because I know I dated,

485
00:21:28,840 --> 00:21:32,760
Speaker 1: I dated dated, I love the date first date, just

486
00:21:32,800 --> 00:21:34,919
Speaker 1: go out oh listening. I was like, girl, if you

487
00:21:34,920 --> 00:21:38,199
Speaker 1: don't stop lying, and I was like, man, stop. I

488
00:21:38,320 --> 00:21:41,359
Speaker 1: used to lose because one it wasn't the right ones,

489
00:21:41,600 --> 00:21:45,320
Speaker 1: but two I would just come into hot I tell

490
00:21:45,359 --> 00:21:46,399
Speaker 1: them exactly how I felt.

491
00:21:46,440 --> 00:21:48,920
Speaker 2: I like you you are fresh, or I'd be.

492
00:21:48,880 --> 00:21:52,120
Speaker 1: Like, ah, we we might need we might not see

493
00:21:52,119 --> 00:21:54,560
Speaker 1: each other anymore. Because this ain't it. This ain't it,

494
00:21:54,760 --> 00:21:56,639
Speaker 1: But you know, finish a meal. We're still gonna be

495
00:21:56,640 --> 00:21:59,720
Speaker 1: cool and I'm kicking it. But nah, why don't we

496
00:21:59,840 --> 00:22:00,760
Speaker 1: just settle down?

497
00:22:00,760 --> 00:22:02,200
Speaker 2: Won't we focus? Focused?

498
00:22:02,240 --> 00:22:04,680
Speaker 1: I was like, what you mean focused? Focus on my game?

499
00:22:04,720 --> 00:22:07,680
Speaker 1: I'm focused on my life. You ain't part of it.

500
00:22:08,400 --> 00:22:10,040
Speaker 1: So I want to know what you guys do in

501
00:22:10,119 --> 00:22:13,000
Speaker 1: terms of your boundaries, in terms of the nastiness too,

502
00:22:13,119 --> 00:22:14,240
Speaker 1: because that's part of being real.

503
00:22:14,520 --> 00:22:16,400
Speaker 2: You know, when do y'all unveil that? When do y'all

504
00:22:16,480 --> 00:22:17,160
Speaker 2: unrolled at?

505
00:22:17,160 --> 00:22:20,400
Speaker 1: When do y'all let everybody know why this is who

506
00:22:20,520 --> 00:22:24,080
Speaker 1: I really am? And where do you stand on the matter?

507
00:22:24,200 --> 00:22:26,840
Speaker 1: Like this conversation, You're like, dog? Why they talking about that?

508
00:22:26,880 --> 00:22:28,439
Speaker 2: Are you like? No? That was pretty funny.

509
00:22:28,480 --> 00:22:30,919
Speaker 1: I thought it was hilarious when they did it, especially

510
00:22:30,960 --> 00:22:33,320
Speaker 1: when Shannon City breaks up with people and he broke

511
00:22:33,400 --> 00:22:35,439
Speaker 1: up with a girl before for doing that, Shannon, let

512
00:22:35,440 --> 00:22:38,280
Speaker 1: me tell you one thing, Them dogs ain't gonna get it. Like,

513
00:22:38,720 --> 00:22:40,320
Speaker 1: I know, you got a kid, so that's good, you

514
00:22:40,359 --> 00:22:43,400
Speaker 1: know the ultimate, But it's you a companion man. Stop

515
00:22:43,680 --> 00:22:48,000
Speaker 1: being married to TV and TV and dogs. I laugh

516
00:22:48,040 --> 00:22:50,040
Speaker 1: when I see Adult Summer, Oh my god, it all

517
00:22:50,080 --> 00:22:50,720
Speaker 1: happen is a dog.

518
00:22:50,760 --> 00:22:53,000
Speaker 2: I'm like, oh man, you need some more lover in

519
00:22:53,000 --> 00:22:53,480
Speaker 2: your life.

520
00:22:53,760 --> 00:22:56,680
Speaker 1: These indy bitties is whereas at I feel like we're

521
00:22:56,680 --> 00:22:58,800
Speaker 1: in a colder sack or something because it's only.

522
00:22:58,680 --> 00:22:59,240
Speaker 2: One way in.

523
00:23:01,000 --> 00:23:03,600
Speaker 1: I never y'all never go see me roll from that direction.

524
00:23:03,720 --> 00:23:06,600
Speaker 1: Let me just tell y'all that right now. Oh man,

525
00:23:06,720 --> 00:23:08,840
Speaker 1: Oh y'all know what it is. It's a song time

526
00:23:08,920 --> 00:23:10,920
Speaker 1: right now. Let me hit y'all with this.

527
00:23:13,119 --> 00:23:23,760
Speaker 6: Oh na, no, no, no, nah nah?

528
00:23:23,800 --> 00:23:28,240
Speaker 2: What was that breaking? When Breaking came out?

529
00:23:28,640 --> 00:23:32,600
Speaker 1: I swear that was a cultural mark that changed how

530
00:23:32,760 --> 00:23:37,240
Speaker 1: life was for me and I'm sure many others, because

531
00:23:37,240 --> 00:23:39,879
Speaker 1: that was the time where like breakdancing and all that

532
00:23:39,920 --> 00:23:43,399
Speaker 1: stuff was just like it felt so fattish, and then

533
00:23:43,440 --> 00:23:47,760
Speaker 1: all of a sudden you saw a major movie dedicated

534
00:23:47,840 --> 00:23:51,280
Speaker 1: to it, like oh they taking it for real? It

535
00:23:51,280 --> 00:23:54,240
Speaker 1: felt so good, Like I mean, it wasn't the deepest

536
00:23:54,240 --> 00:23:56,439
Speaker 1: and greatest of movies, and frankly it wasn't even the

537
00:23:56,480 --> 00:23:57,280
Speaker 1: best breakdancing.

538
00:23:57,800 --> 00:23:59,760
Speaker 2: Matter of fact, they were like locking in their way

539
00:23:59,760 --> 00:24:02,720
Speaker 2: more and I was like, come on, man, could do better?

540
00:24:03,400 --> 00:24:05,320
Speaker 2: Take you off slosson right now? I know some castles

541
00:24:05,359 --> 00:24:06,359
Speaker 2: from cardboard getting it.

542
00:24:06,400 --> 00:24:10,280
Speaker 1: But it was just amazing to see major motion picture

543
00:24:10,840 --> 00:24:11,880
Speaker 1: and it was about breakdown.

544
00:24:11,880 --> 00:24:13,480
Speaker 2: So I'm about to burn, all right, y'all.

545
00:24:13,520 --> 00:24:16,199
Speaker 1: Go to Project transition dot org log one, become a

546
00:24:16,240 --> 00:24:22,800
Speaker 1: freshman email, sophomore donation, junior recurring donation, get the book, uppclassmen,

547
00:24:23,040 --> 00:24:25,040
Speaker 1: or a senior. Leave a comma dog, just do a

548
00:24:25,080 --> 00:24:28,240
Speaker 1: comma donate a comma in the comma said yes, let's

549
00:24:28,240 --> 00:24:30,640
Speaker 1: get into this topic right here. And it was scary

550
00:24:30,720 --> 00:24:33,560
Speaker 1: because the Bills running back Damien Harris got taken off

551
00:24:33,600 --> 00:24:38,880
Speaker 1: the field and an ambulance after scary neck injury. All right,

552
00:24:38,960 --> 00:24:41,520
Speaker 1: So during the game between them and the Giants, if

553
00:24:41,520 --> 00:24:45,240
Speaker 1: you guys watched it, he got hurt, serious injury that

554
00:24:45,440 --> 00:24:47,879
Speaker 1: required the medical attention. Let me talk you through the

555
00:24:47,920 --> 00:24:50,200
Speaker 1: beach some of it. So the ambulance is brought into

556
00:24:50,200 --> 00:24:53,040
Speaker 1: the field. Never a good scene, never a good feeling

557
00:24:53,040 --> 00:24:56,400
Speaker 1: when you see that, And that was obviously reminiscent Buffalo

558
00:24:56,440 --> 00:25:00,840
Speaker 1: Bill's ambulance. Damar Hamlin comes to mind, all right. So

559
00:25:00,880 --> 00:25:03,439
Speaker 1: he was injured on the run play before halftime, but

560
00:25:03,520 --> 00:25:05,320
Speaker 1: he gave the thumbs up and we all got to

561
00:25:05,359 --> 00:25:07,640
Speaker 1: see him when he was placed on the backboard into

562
00:25:07,680 --> 00:25:09,800
Speaker 1: the ambulance and then cart it.

563
00:25:09,840 --> 00:25:10,920
Speaker 2: Off and wheeled out.

564
00:25:11,560 --> 00:25:14,560
Speaker 1: So everyone was showing concern and around you know, the

565
00:25:14,560 --> 00:25:16,720
Speaker 1: big huddle, the prayers, etc.

566
00:25:17,200 --> 00:25:17,520
Speaker 2: Etc.

567
00:25:18,640 --> 00:25:21,320
Speaker 1: Now, why I want to talk about this story is

568
00:25:21,359 --> 00:25:28,439
Speaker 1: because one the haunting of that Damar Hambling injury and

569
00:25:28,480 --> 00:25:34,240
Speaker 1: cardiac arrest that he's recovered from to play once again. Now,

570
00:25:34,840 --> 00:25:38,040
Speaker 1: that just reminds me of the moments I was reminded

571
00:25:38,240 --> 00:25:44,639
Speaker 1: of my athletic mortality. And it's weird, like playing sports,

572
00:25:45,040 --> 00:25:47,960
Speaker 1: they're not all the same sport and they're not all

573
00:25:48,000 --> 00:25:51,560
Speaker 1: the same sport in terms of where you go to

574
00:25:51,560 --> 00:25:56,080
Speaker 1: to activate your body to participate. I remember the first

575
00:25:56,119 --> 00:26:01,440
Speaker 1: time I did pregame with a basketball player and I

576
00:26:01,480 --> 00:26:05,879
Speaker 1: was like, damn, I chose the wrong sport. But I

577
00:26:05,880 --> 00:26:09,720
Speaker 1: always tell y'all, no one chooses football. Football chooses you.

578
00:26:10,240 --> 00:26:11,560
Speaker 2: Okay.

579
00:26:11,720 --> 00:26:14,600
Speaker 1: I'm looking at him, I'm like, he didn't have to

580
00:26:14,600 --> 00:26:18,359
Speaker 1: go to that special place. He didn't go like to

581
00:26:18,600 --> 00:26:23,040
Speaker 1: some different world and universe to get activated to go

582
00:26:23,080 --> 00:26:27,040
Speaker 1: out there and play his sport. He actually seemed like

583
00:26:27,119 --> 00:26:30,000
Speaker 1: the same dude who's just like, yeah, I got a

584
00:26:30,040 --> 00:26:31,960
Speaker 1: game tonight. I was like, yeah, but when I have

585
00:26:32,040 --> 00:26:35,560
Speaker 1: a game, I'm not the same, dude, I'm a whole

586
00:26:35,640 --> 00:26:38,400
Speaker 1: different animal when I gotta go play football.

587
00:26:38,440 --> 00:26:40,840
Speaker 2: And you football players know what I'm talking about.

588
00:26:41,600 --> 00:26:47,080
Speaker 1: But you got an athletic mortality, and you don't acknowledge that.

589
00:26:48,080 --> 00:26:52,639
Speaker 1: You acknowledge that you're invincible. Nobody could touch me, nobody

590
00:26:52,640 --> 00:26:54,960
Speaker 1: could see me. That's where that special place takes me.

591
00:26:55,720 --> 00:26:59,119
Speaker 1: I'm so distant from reality and I'm so locked in

592
00:26:59,160 --> 00:27:01,840
Speaker 1: to get ready to play football. And y'all know what

593
00:27:01,840 --> 00:27:04,240
Speaker 1: that looks like. Like we literally go under a spell

594
00:27:04,400 --> 00:27:09,560
Speaker 1: to play football. There's a psychosis that occurs to play football.

595
00:27:09,680 --> 00:27:11,399
Speaker 2: I know it. You want to know how I know

596
00:27:11,480 --> 00:27:13,320
Speaker 2: it because I don't play football no more. And I

597
00:27:13,359 --> 00:27:16,600
Speaker 2: was like, damn, I used to go there. WHOA.

598
00:27:16,920 --> 00:27:19,320
Speaker 1: I'm gonna try my best to explain it to you guys,

599
00:27:19,320 --> 00:27:21,640
Speaker 1: but trust me, is different.

600
00:27:21,800 --> 00:27:22,160
Speaker 2: All right.

601
00:27:22,320 --> 00:27:24,359
Speaker 1: So let's start with Like, let's just say the night

602
00:27:24,400 --> 00:27:26,520
Speaker 1: before the game, you go into the hotel whatever it

603
00:27:26,560 --> 00:27:26,760
Speaker 1: may be.

604
00:27:26,920 --> 00:27:28,520
Speaker 2: You're sleeping that night.

605
00:27:29,920 --> 00:27:31,760
Speaker 1: You know you're on your fresh swst suit, not too

606
00:27:31,800 --> 00:27:34,000
Speaker 1: fresh because you might wear your freshest to the game,

607
00:27:34,040 --> 00:27:37,000
Speaker 1: but you're looking cool. You're around everybody, You chrispy just

608
00:27:37,040 --> 00:27:40,359
Speaker 1: walking around. Ah, what's up, boy? And nicely meetings and

609
00:27:40,400 --> 00:27:43,080
Speaker 1: stuff chilling, and in that place it's the call before

610
00:27:43,080 --> 00:27:47,800
Speaker 1: the storm, and everybody in that moment, everybody's full of confidence.

611
00:27:47,840 --> 00:27:48,960
Speaker 2: Everybody's feeling great.

612
00:27:49,160 --> 00:27:50,760
Speaker 1: Everybody you know you're gonna feel as good as you

613
00:27:50,840 --> 00:27:54,320
Speaker 1: can because tomorrow you got some pain to and flip right,

614
00:27:55,000 --> 00:27:59,600
Speaker 1: so you're good. Nervous that night whatever that is, anxious,

615
00:28:00,240 --> 00:28:04,600
Speaker 1: Uh hard to sleep, to sleep like a baby and

616
00:28:04,800 --> 00:28:06,320
Speaker 1: be in. Let me pop a pill or two and

617
00:28:06,359 --> 00:28:08,400
Speaker 1: go to sleep. Whatever it is you get through the night.

618
00:28:08,680 --> 00:28:11,920
Speaker 1: Everyone has a different way. For me, it was most

619
00:28:11,920 --> 00:28:14,000
Speaker 1: of the time I don't need a ton of sleep,

620
00:28:14,280 --> 00:28:17,720
Speaker 1: so that could have been a cocktail mixed with I

621
00:28:17,760 --> 00:28:21,439
Speaker 1: am anxious or nervous, but usually I just can't sleep anyway.

622
00:28:21,480 --> 00:28:23,760
Speaker 1: Like last night, I went to bed at one o'clock.

623
00:28:23,880 --> 00:28:27,240
Speaker 1: I woke up at five o'clock with no alarm, So

624
00:28:27,320 --> 00:28:30,480
Speaker 1: I'm that guy. But at the same time, you wake

625
00:28:30,600 --> 00:28:33,119
Speaker 1: up and then you just sit there in that bed.

626
00:28:33,840 --> 00:28:37,240
Speaker 1: I remember gang days, sitting in the bed forever because.

627
00:28:37,040 --> 00:28:38,920
Speaker 2: I ain't want to get up, not because I ain't

628
00:28:38,960 --> 00:28:41,000
Speaker 2: want to play it, because it's like when I get up,

629
00:28:41,040 --> 00:28:43,160
Speaker 2: it's time to get up, you know what I mean?

630
00:28:43,440 --> 00:28:45,600
Speaker 2: Like when this body get out this bed. Didn't mine

631
00:28:45,680 --> 00:28:51,120
Speaker 2: gonna go somewhere? Why go go somewhere? The special whoa?

632
00:28:51,240 --> 00:28:53,280
Speaker 1: So I was like, all right, you gotta put it on,

633
00:28:53,520 --> 00:28:54,880
Speaker 1: like you about to put your armor on.

634
00:28:55,040 --> 00:28:59,520
Speaker 2: Right, there are aways. It weighs something, so it's all right.

635
00:28:59,600 --> 00:29:03,280
Speaker 1: Then you get it up and the first thing you're

636
00:29:03,360 --> 00:29:08,440
Speaker 1: met with is this different enthusiasm that everybody's geeked up.

637
00:29:08,720 --> 00:29:13,040
Speaker 1: Everybody's but the players are chilling. Everybody else is geeked up.

638
00:29:13,200 --> 00:29:16,720
Speaker 1: It's game day energy, right, so everybody you see, good luck.

639
00:29:16,920 --> 00:29:18,120
Speaker 1: Oh let's go get them to day.

640
00:29:18,280 --> 00:29:22,040
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, Like the equipment managers, the person.

641
00:29:21,760 --> 00:29:25,760
Speaker 1: Feeding you at the hotel, like everybody's like like, you know,

642
00:29:25,960 --> 00:29:28,960
Speaker 1: like all these tailgaters came loose and they all around

643
00:29:29,000 --> 00:29:32,080
Speaker 1: you and they just excited and geeked up, and you're

644
00:29:32,080 --> 00:29:32,840
Speaker 1: like all right.

645
00:29:32,800 --> 00:29:35,239
Speaker 2: And they're bringing you up. And then you get your

646
00:29:35,320 --> 00:29:37,840
Speaker 2: you know, your pregame meal, you get all that you're eating.

647
00:29:38,040 --> 00:29:41,840
Speaker 1: Everybody got small talk, everybody watching something on TV, whether

648
00:29:41,840 --> 00:29:45,920
Speaker 1: it's pregame or some other game maybe on and he's

649
00:29:45,960 --> 00:29:49,120
Speaker 1: just getting there, getting taped up, all getting the mind right,

650
00:29:50,600 --> 00:29:54,560
Speaker 1: getting your gear right. And then this is when it starts.

651
00:29:56,080 --> 00:29:59,240
Speaker 1: You put them headphones on. You put them headphones on,

652
00:29:59,320 --> 00:30:05,160
Speaker 1: you got them song, I was ready where And then

653
00:30:05,160 --> 00:30:07,160
Speaker 1: all of a sudden you stop. All of a sudden,

654
00:30:07,160 --> 00:30:09,320
Speaker 1: you go from LA to New York. What that means

655
00:30:09,320 --> 00:30:11,400
Speaker 1: to me? In LA, everybody walks around like this, Hey,

656
00:30:11,400 --> 00:30:12,640
Speaker 1: how you doing? Hey, what's up?

657
00:30:12,680 --> 00:30:15,640
Speaker 2: Man? You good? What up? Boy? That's La. Here's New York,

658
00:30:18,400 --> 00:30:19,360
Speaker 2: acting like they don't see you.

659
00:30:19,400 --> 00:30:21,560
Speaker 1: Then all of a sudden, everybody got their headphones on

660
00:30:21,600 --> 00:30:23,280
Speaker 1: the locker room. Nobody see each other, but got that

661
00:30:23,280 --> 00:30:26,320
Speaker 1: New York state of mind right right, And then it's time.

662
00:30:27,000 --> 00:30:29,880
Speaker 1: All right, you got your smelling salts and putting them

663
00:30:29,920 --> 00:30:31,880
Speaker 1: in before the game. You ain't got knocked out?

664
00:30:32,200 --> 00:30:36,479
Speaker 2: A cay? You ready? And then you go out. Oh,

665
00:30:36,560 --> 00:30:40,120
Speaker 2: ain't nothing hyper because everybody start bouncing, and it's hilarious because.

666
00:30:39,920 --> 00:30:43,600
Speaker 1: Everybody think they gonna ball out that day. Every single player,

667
00:30:43,720 --> 00:30:46,400
Speaker 1: all eighteen hundred of those guys bouncing around who just

668
00:30:46,440 --> 00:30:49,480
Speaker 1: took their headphones off, think they about the rock off today.

669
00:30:49,800 --> 00:30:52,880
Speaker 2: They about to get it. Whoa. Then you walk out

670
00:30:52,920 --> 00:30:59,280
Speaker 2: that tuddle. Oh snap, you hear them cleat that drum

671
00:30:59,360 --> 00:31:01,960
Speaker 2: line of cleats going get out to that stape.

672
00:31:03,120 --> 00:31:08,560
Speaker 1: Like, and you feel like, yeah, and everybody in pregame

673
00:31:08,920 --> 00:31:12,840
Speaker 1: is undefeated. Everybody in pregame got one hundred yards, one

674
00:31:12,880 --> 00:31:16,719
Speaker 1: hundred receiving yards, three hundred passing yards, five sacks. Everybody

675
00:31:17,120 --> 00:31:25,280
Speaker 1: they playing the music boom oh, and they kicked that

676
00:31:25,360 --> 00:31:31,080
Speaker 1: ball off and all that shit changed. Somebody gonna get defeated.

677
00:31:31,160 --> 00:31:36,000
Speaker 1: It's time to run down on kick off seventy seven. Yeah, quiet,

678
00:31:37,640 --> 00:31:39,880
Speaker 1: that ain't even what I'm talking about. That's just to

679
00:31:39,960 --> 00:31:44,640
Speaker 1: get you into the game. This situation is what gets

680
00:31:44,680 --> 00:31:48,160
Speaker 1: you out the game. You cracking, you cracking heads. You're

681
00:31:48,160 --> 00:31:51,680
Speaker 1: getting caught here in there. Oh oh, you're geting through it.

682
00:31:52,280 --> 00:31:55,640
Speaker 1: And then all of a sudden, you could just feel it,

683
00:31:55,880 --> 00:32:01,560
Speaker 1: the disruption of the flow. Somebody laying down and ain't

684
00:32:01,600 --> 00:32:05,800
Speaker 1: getting up, and you're looking, now, you good, first thing

685
00:32:05,840 --> 00:32:09,600
Speaker 1: you are see it. You can even hear it. It's automatic.

686
00:32:09,800 --> 00:32:12,640
Speaker 1: You good dog. Now you're not asking him, You tell

687
00:32:12,680 --> 00:32:15,760
Speaker 1: you good dog, you good. And then he give you

688
00:32:15,760 --> 00:32:19,120
Speaker 1: that signal, whatever it may be. Maybe it's no signal,

689
00:32:19,160 --> 00:32:22,160
Speaker 1: which is the worst. He ain't moving, or he give

690
00:32:22,200 --> 00:32:25,480
Speaker 1: you that signal I ain't good, and immediately you go

691
00:32:25,560 --> 00:32:27,760
Speaker 1: to rescue him. In terms of like how he's feeling

692
00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:29,240
Speaker 1: and how he's good, and everybody.

693
00:32:28,920 --> 00:32:31,680
Speaker 2: Come on, come on, come on, check him out. But

694
00:32:31,920 --> 00:32:35,760
Speaker 2: then what people don't talk enough about is what you're thinking.

695
00:32:37,760 --> 00:32:38,680
Speaker 2: You just woke up.

696
00:32:39,520 --> 00:32:42,640
Speaker 1: You just literally woke up and realized what the hell

697
00:32:42,800 --> 00:32:49,760
Speaker 1: was I just doing. It Literally feels like almost if

698
00:32:49,800 --> 00:32:54,840
Speaker 1: somebody grabs you and says, what are you doing, You're like,

699
00:32:54,840 --> 00:32:55,200
Speaker 1: what we you mean?

700
00:32:55,880 --> 00:33:02,520
Speaker 2: You were running back and forth across the freeway, and

701
00:33:02,520 --> 00:33:06,160
Speaker 2: then you're like I was, It's crazy.

702
00:33:06,200 --> 00:33:10,600
Speaker 1: You just don't even understand and recall, like how much

703
00:33:10,880 --> 00:33:14,160
Speaker 1: danger you put yourself in in the name of fun,

704
00:33:14,280 --> 00:33:17,400
Speaker 1: in the name of football, cause it's funny. I'm thinking

705
00:33:17,440 --> 00:33:20,400
Speaker 1: through this right down for my son as he plays football.

706
00:33:20,720 --> 00:33:23,120
Speaker 1: Now it's flag. So I got a lot of grace

707
00:33:23,160 --> 00:33:26,560
Speaker 1: period and runway before we had that real conversation about

708
00:33:26,720 --> 00:33:29,800
Speaker 1: pow pow, and I'm like, dog, you gonna get hurt.

709
00:33:30,480 --> 00:33:33,480
Speaker 1: You were watching football this morning, We're watching Good Morning Football.

710
00:33:33,680 --> 00:33:36,280
Speaker 1: He's like, oh daddy, he was reading off the injury reporting.

711
00:33:36,320 --> 00:33:38,800
Speaker 1: I was like, yeah, okay, I said, football hurts every

712
00:33:38,840 --> 00:33:43,600
Speaker 1: single day, every single way. But to invite that into

713
00:33:43,680 --> 00:33:48,680
Speaker 1: your life more importantly, to get seduced by that and

714
00:33:48,760 --> 00:33:54,760
Speaker 1: then under the spell you actually forget about that, and

715
00:33:54,800 --> 00:33:58,520
Speaker 1: then you get reminded in moments like this with Damien Harris,

716
00:33:58,960 --> 00:34:03,400
Speaker 1: Tomorrow Hamlin, etc. Right, And the craziest thing about it,

717
00:34:03,560 --> 00:34:06,920
Speaker 1: which may be some PTSD for some folks, maybe all

718
00:34:06,960 --> 00:34:08,839
Speaker 1: of us, and I'm just not acknowledging it.

719
00:34:10,960 --> 00:34:13,759
Speaker 2: Let's go, move the ball up to you. Let's go,

720
00:34:15,160 --> 00:34:15,480
Speaker 2: and you.

721
00:34:15,560 --> 00:34:19,000
Speaker 1: Right back in it running across that freeway. Ain't it crazy?

722
00:34:19,200 --> 00:34:22,440
Speaker 1: Football is amazing. I wouldn't trade a thing about my

723
00:34:22,560 --> 00:34:23,880
Speaker 1: career other than staying healthy.

724
00:34:24,400 --> 00:34:26,560
Speaker 2: If I could have done anything, Hey, can I stay

725
00:34:26,600 --> 00:34:27,359
Speaker 2: healthy the whole time?

726
00:34:27,360 --> 00:34:30,000
Speaker 1: And let you see how great I can be other

727
00:34:30,040 --> 00:34:33,000
Speaker 1: than that? Man, it was so amazing. But what's crazy

728
00:34:33,040 --> 00:34:36,520
Speaker 1: about it is you know the amount of danger and

729
00:34:36,640 --> 00:34:38,960
Speaker 1: harm you're putting yourself into, and.

730
00:34:38,880 --> 00:34:41,480
Speaker 2: You raise your hand even higher.

731
00:34:41,760 --> 00:34:44,560
Speaker 1: Just to be a part of it. Football is amazing.

732
00:34:44,800 --> 00:34:47,720
Speaker 1: It's why it's the king of all sports in this country.

733
00:34:47,800 --> 00:34:50,759
Speaker 2: So what did y'all feel about when you saw that? Like?

734
00:34:50,800 --> 00:34:52,799
Speaker 2: How does it grab you? Guys when you see it?

735
00:34:52,800 --> 00:34:54,640
Speaker 1: Are you just like, hey, it's part of the business,

736
00:34:54,760 --> 00:34:57,359
Speaker 1: part of the game, or does it really grab at

737
00:34:57,400 --> 00:34:57,799
Speaker 1: you right?

738
00:34:57,800 --> 00:34:58,880
Speaker 2: Pull at your heartstrings?

739
00:34:59,040 --> 00:35:01,520
Speaker 1: Every time I see somebody get hurt, I'm like, damn,

740
00:35:02,480 --> 00:35:04,160
Speaker 1: and not just feeling for them because most of the

741
00:35:04,200 --> 00:35:05,200
Speaker 1: time I think they're gonna.

742
00:35:05,000 --> 00:35:05,399
Speaker 2: Be all right.

743
00:35:05,480 --> 00:35:09,520
Speaker 1: It's just like how they return back to that same battle.

744
00:35:09,680 --> 00:35:12,600
Speaker 1: They go right back to that fighting, right. It's real

745
00:35:12,719 --> 00:35:15,560
Speaker 1: out there. Oh, I got cars slivering. It's your boy,

746
00:35:15,600 --> 00:35:18,680
Speaker 1: Marcell's wiley. I wasn't out of frame yet, but who cares?

747
00:35:18,920 --> 00:35:30,719
Speaker 1: And no bubba buba bu y'all remember that whoa yay?

748
00:35:32,840 --> 00:35:37,680
Speaker 1: That might be that little park with all the noise,

749
00:35:39,719 --> 00:35:41,080
Speaker 1: you could put that anywhere.

750
00:35:41,200 --> 00:35:42,840
Speaker 2: Oh who did that?

751
00:35:42,960 --> 00:35:46,200
Speaker 1: I saw that? I think that was I think it

752
00:35:46,239 --> 00:35:48,320
Speaker 1: was dj a M. Rest in peace. If y'all know

753
00:35:48,320 --> 00:35:51,160
Speaker 1: who dj A M, please google him YouTube and get this.

754
00:35:51,880 --> 00:35:56,440
Speaker 1: He he used to He used to blend so silly.

755
00:35:57,360 --> 00:35:58,640
Speaker 1: He was my favorite DJ.

756
00:35:59,040 --> 00:35:59,160
Speaker 2: No.

757
00:35:59,400 --> 00:36:01,000
Speaker 1: I got a chance to meet him and hang out

758
00:36:01,000 --> 00:36:02,879
Speaker 1: with him, talk to him, stay in touch with him

759
00:36:03,120 --> 00:36:06,439
Speaker 1: before he passed away. And this is before the fame, dude,

760
00:36:06,440 --> 00:36:08,920
Speaker 1: this is just me DJing and local clubs and then

761
00:36:08,960 --> 00:36:11,040
Speaker 1: he DJ and I just met him. I was like, yo,

762
00:36:11,120 --> 00:36:15,279
Speaker 1: you insane, bro, like insane. He he the first one

763
00:36:15,320 --> 00:36:21,520
Speaker 1: I heard do like like mashups with like Michael Jackson

764
00:36:22,040 --> 00:36:25,239
Speaker 1: and like some rap songs and it was just like, yeah,

765
00:36:25,360 --> 00:36:27,840
Speaker 1: what is going on here? So respect to him, but

766
00:36:27,960 --> 00:36:29,920
Speaker 1: that song he used to blend it sometimes in there,

767
00:36:29,960 --> 00:36:32,520
Speaker 1: I'll be like, oh that's insane. All right, y'all, y'all

768
00:36:32,520 --> 00:36:35,920
Speaker 1: know Project Transition dot org. Project Transition dot org become

769
00:36:36,360 --> 00:36:39,440
Speaker 1: part of the Never Shut Up University. In Project Transition,

770
00:36:39,840 --> 00:36:43,000
Speaker 1: I will hook you guys up. Thank you for your donations.

771
00:36:43,080 --> 00:36:47,080
Speaker 1: Please continue to do them because we are having impact

772
00:36:47,200 --> 00:36:50,520
Speaker 1: out here, like this weekend when I went to see

773
00:36:50,560 --> 00:36:56,240
Speaker 1: the hitting geniuses in Inglewood, Yes, hitting geniuses in Inglewood.

774
00:36:56,480 --> 00:37:00,240
Speaker 2: Bunch of kids there, amazing, amazing, inn.

775
00:37:00,719 --> 00:37:03,040
Speaker 1: All trying to be the best they can be, truly

776
00:37:03,080 --> 00:37:05,600
Speaker 1: on a great path. Love to them and what they're

777
00:37:05,600 --> 00:37:07,319
Speaker 1: doing over there, and shout out to you to real

778
00:37:07,440 --> 00:37:10,799
Speaker 1: Johnson and all what y'all doing over there, because you

779
00:37:10,880 --> 00:37:14,080
Speaker 1: guys fan me talking to the kids this weekend. You

780
00:37:14,160 --> 00:37:17,600
Speaker 1: know us, we're bringing them into our educational empowerment series,

781
00:37:18,200 --> 00:37:20,840
Speaker 1: hooked them up with some books and made sure that

782
00:37:20,880 --> 00:37:23,839
Speaker 1: they're going to be part of our community as well.

783
00:37:23,920 --> 00:37:25,680
Speaker 2: So love and salute to them.

784
00:37:25,880 --> 00:37:30,200
Speaker 1: All Right, let's talk about Jason Whitlock my dog, Yes,

785
00:37:30,440 --> 00:37:36,120
Speaker 1: and I titled this Whitlock was wrong because the last

786
00:37:36,120 --> 00:37:37,879
Speaker 1: time I did a clip on it, I was talking

787
00:37:37,880 --> 00:37:39,839
Speaker 1: about the things he was right about. So let's talk

788
00:37:39,840 --> 00:37:41,719
Speaker 1: about that. And he has a few more things he

789
00:37:41,760 --> 00:37:44,520
Speaker 1: was right about as well. But like anything, nothing's perfect,

790
00:37:44,520 --> 00:37:48,080
Speaker 1: including me, including what I say. Full disclosure. I talked

791
00:37:48,080 --> 00:37:51,279
Speaker 1: to Whitlock this weekend. Right he hit me up. I said,

792
00:37:51,320 --> 00:37:51,800
Speaker 1: what subject?

793
00:37:51,880 --> 00:37:53,920
Speaker 2: Dog? I know your response.

794
00:37:54,360 --> 00:37:57,040
Speaker 1: I know some of y'all, many of y'all don't count

795
00:37:57,080 --> 00:38:00,200
Speaker 1: how many of y'all don't like Jason Whitlock. But I'm

796
00:38:00,239 --> 00:38:03,640
Speaker 1: not that type of friend. And let me just say this.

797
00:38:03,760 --> 00:38:09,799
Speaker 1: If you are friends with someone you don't disagree with

798
00:38:10,400 --> 00:38:14,240
Speaker 1: at times many times, then you ain't friends with anyone.

799
00:38:14,320 --> 00:38:16,719
Speaker 1: Probably you gotta have real relationships. I have a real

800
00:38:16,760 --> 00:38:19,320
Speaker 1: relationship with Jason Willlock. I don't agree with everything he says.

801
00:38:19,400 --> 00:38:21,400
Speaker 1: I know what y'all don't like about him. I have

802
00:38:21,560 --> 00:38:24,040
Speaker 1: those theme issues or some of them or many of them,

803
00:38:24,200 --> 00:38:26,919
Speaker 1: doesn't matter. Still a good dude to me. You guys

804
00:38:26,960 --> 00:38:30,560
Speaker 1: don't know him for real. We'll talk through that later,

805
00:38:30,600 --> 00:38:33,880
Speaker 1: but right now, we just broke bread and talked a

806
00:38:33,880 --> 00:38:36,480
Speaker 1: little bit about what's going on in this world.

807
00:38:36,880 --> 00:38:39,319
Speaker 2: Okay, and one thing I do respect about him is

808
00:38:39,560 --> 00:38:41,000
Speaker 2: he is him.

809
00:38:41,560 --> 00:38:44,759
Speaker 1: He gonna break it down to the last compound.

810
00:38:44,920 --> 00:38:46,200
Speaker 2: I worked with him for two years.

811
00:38:46,440 --> 00:38:48,880
Speaker 1: With him with two years and no matter where he

812
00:38:49,040 --> 00:38:51,839
Speaker 1: was coming from, you better come with yours. I ain't

813
00:38:51,880 --> 00:38:55,000
Speaker 1: gonna You may think I don't agree with that, I

814
00:38:55,040 --> 00:38:58,680
Speaker 1: hate that, but boy is he gonna back that up.

815
00:39:00,800 --> 00:39:03,640
Speaker 1: I was like, DAYNL, this dude thorough for real man,

816
00:39:03,680 --> 00:39:06,040
Speaker 1: and he's a great listener. Gotta give him more flowers

817
00:39:06,040 --> 00:39:08,360
Speaker 1: than y'all do. But y'all do, y'all all right anyway,

818
00:39:08,560 --> 00:39:12,839
Speaker 1: So whatlock he had on his Fearless podcast. I think

819
00:39:12,840 --> 00:39:16,759
Speaker 1: it was maybe Thursday he had to respond to Stephen A.

820
00:39:16,880 --> 00:39:20,560
Speaker 1: Smith called him fat bastard, which'll you know, come on now,

821
00:39:21,920 --> 00:39:23,880
Speaker 1: it got a lot of attention. But that's just to

822
00:39:23,920 --> 00:39:26,919
Speaker 1: the point of what I'm saying about sports media and etc.

823
00:39:27,320 --> 00:39:28,680
Speaker 2: Like I'm not even gonna go.

824
00:39:28,680 --> 00:39:31,200
Speaker 1: Lazy and say he's fat shaming them because I don't

825
00:39:31,200 --> 00:39:33,239
Speaker 1: believe in body shaming stuff like if you fat, you're fat,

826
00:39:33,280 --> 00:39:35,880
Speaker 1: you're skinny, you're skinny, Like I ain't changing my words,

827
00:39:36,400 --> 00:39:38,960
Speaker 1: like you skinny, I don't know, don'tcoma skinny? Okay, you

828
00:39:39,160 --> 00:39:41,920
Speaker 1: hell a little and skinny where you want. I'm not

829
00:39:42,000 --> 00:39:44,960
Speaker 1: that person, but you know I don't like that. We

830
00:39:45,040 --> 00:39:49,720
Speaker 1: gotta do those type of attacks and and word choices

831
00:39:50,040 --> 00:39:53,440
Speaker 1: to just get somebody's point, you know, to jab at

832
00:39:53,440 --> 00:39:55,920
Speaker 1: somebody like come on, man, like, then we.

833
00:39:55,920 --> 00:39:57,799
Speaker 2: Gonna if y'all want to play that game. I know

834
00:39:57,840 --> 00:40:00,040
Speaker 2: I'm gonna win because I got jokes, but.

835
00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:05,640
Speaker 1: But seriously, fat bastard to really get a point across.

836
00:40:05,680 --> 00:40:08,799
Speaker 1: It's kind of like what my point is about? All

837
00:40:08,880 --> 00:40:12,759
Speaker 1: this game is going anyway? Didn't care about that that

838
00:40:12,840 --> 00:40:20,400
Speaker 1: word choice right there. Jason Widlock went on a few minutes.

839
00:40:20,560 --> 00:40:22,480
Speaker 1: I'm gonna take a clip from his show, a few

840
00:40:22,520 --> 00:40:25,359
Speaker 1: minutes talking about the entire situation from.

841
00:40:25,320 --> 00:40:27,759
Speaker 2: His perspective on Max and Steven Ay.

842
00:40:28,400 --> 00:40:30,800
Speaker 1: Now, before he got to that point, I got to

843
00:40:30,840 --> 00:40:34,120
Speaker 1: clarify one thing that's out there because Stephen A. Smith

844
00:40:34,160 --> 00:40:39,200
Speaker 1: made this mistake and Jason Widlock made this mistake. Max

845
00:40:39,280 --> 00:40:41,040
Speaker 1: and I are not best friends.

846
00:40:41,480 --> 00:40:44,319
Speaker 2: Stop that. I am not taking up for Max. We

847
00:40:44,440 --> 00:40:45,560
Speaker 2: ain't that cool.

848
00:40:45,680 --> 00:40:49,799
Speaker 1: That's my dog though, love him to death, but even

849
00:40:49,840 --> 00:40:51,440
Speaker 1: if he was my best friend, I don't do that.

850
00:40:51,520 --> 00:40:54,000
Speaker 1: Like I'm dog. You can fight for yourself. This wasn't

851
00:40:54,000 --> 00:40:56,040
Speaker 1: about that. I keep telling y' all that, and Widlock

852
00:40:56,120 --> 00:40:59,280
Speaker 1: made the mistake of saying that we were friends since college.

853
00:40:59,400 --> 00:41:02,400
Speaker 1: We weren't friend in college. We went to the same college,

854
00:41:02,640 --> 00:41:04,520
Speaker 1: but we weren't friends in college. I ain't know Max.

855
00:41:04,560 --> 00:41:10,560
Speaker 1: In college, I heard of a dude doing boxing that

856
00:41:10,680 --> 00:41:14,719
Speaker 1: went to Columbia that was through our radio station in

857
00:41:14,760 --> 00:41:18,920
Speaker 1: public Access WKCR and Barbido, and.

858
00:41:19,280 --> 00:41:21,600
Speaker 2: I forget that. What was that stretch of Barbido?

859
00:41:21,800 --> 00:41:26,000
Speaker 1: Yes, I heard about all that, but I didn't know Max.

860
00:41:26,040 --> 00:41:27,800
Speaker 1: I didn't know stretch of Barbido. And they used to

861
00:41:27,840 --> 00:41:30,640
Speaker 1: do that big, old famous radio show right there on campus.

862
00:41:30,760 --> 00:41:33,760
Speaker 1: That's my point. So just to clarify, we weren't friends

863
00:41:33,760 --> 00:41:35,800
Speaker 1: in college. Max and I used to always joke. I

864
00:41:35,880 --> 00:41:37,600
Speaker 1: used to clown him. I was like, you went to

865
00:41:37,640 --> 00:41:40,960
Speaker 1: Columbia before me and graduated after me with your super

866
00:41:40,960 --> 00:41:41,720
Speaker 1: senior ass.

867
00:41:42,480 --> 00:41:44,520
Speaker 2: I used to get him. I was super senior, old

868
00:41:44,800 --> 00:41:50,120
Speaker 2: oh ice cuban higher learning. Looking at him for real,

869
00:41:50,160 --> 00:41:52,040
Speaker 2: I'm like, how you gonna be a genius and take

870
00:41:52,200 --> 00:41:54,399
Speaker 2: nineteen years to graduate? Even for real?

871
00:41:54,520 --> 00:41:56,560
Speaker 1: He got that way before me, took way after me.

872
00:41:56,840 --> 00:42:00,279
Speaker 1: That's my dog though, So just like I keep it

873
00:42:00,360 --> 00:42:02,800
Speaker 1: real on all levels. I didn't know Max in college.

874
00:42:02,920 --> 00:42:05,839
Speaker 2: The first time I ever met maxis doing his radio show.

875
00:42:05,840 --> 00:42:08,319
Speaker 1: He was in New York. I'm an active player. And

876
00:42:08,360 --> 00:42:10,080
Speaker 1: then I remember we doing the show. He's like, yeah,

877
00:42:10,080 --> 00:42:12,040
Speaker 1: I went to Columbia with you. Everybody knew who you were.

878
00:42:12,360 --> 00:42:14,840
Speaker 1: It was like I was there and I was like ah.

879
00:42:14,880 --> 00:42:16,640
Speaker 1: And then we start talking about who he knew and

880
00:42:16,640 --> 00:42:19,080
Speaker 1: who he hung around with. I was like, that's why

881
00:42:19,160 --> 00:42:22,040
Speaker 1: we didn't know each other in school. Let's just say

882
00:42:22,160 --> 00:42:24,680
Speaker 1: Max hunk with my homies that I was keeping a

883
00:42:24,680 --> 00:42:28,359
Speaker 1: little distance from because I already had been through that

884
00:42:28,760 --> 00:42:31,080
Speaker 1: growing up. If you know what I'm saying. They were

885
00:42:31,200 --> 00:42:33,799
Speaker 1: on that side of the street, in them streets. I

886
00:42:33,920 --> 00:42:35,840
Speaker 1: was over here trying to nerd up, trying to go

887
00:42:35,880 --> 00:42:38,280
Speaker 1: to the league. That's how that went in college. Didn't

888
00:42:38,320 --> 00:42:40,600
Speaker 1: know Max all right. Now, I want to play the

889
00:42:40,640 --> 00:42:43,719
Speaker 1: sound from Jason Woodlock and just point out a few

890
00:42:43,840 --> 00:42:46,840
Speaker 1: things learn or unlearn, what was wrong, what.

891
00:42:46,680 --> 00:42:47,759
Speaker 2: Was right about what he said?

892
00:42:47,800 --> 00:42:51,560
Speaker 1: So let's play Jason Woodlock talking about Max and stephen A.

893
00:42:52,760 --> 00:42:59,239
Speaker 5: So here's what happened legitimately between Max Kellerman and stephen A.

894
00:42:59,360 --> 00:43:02,919
Speaker 5: Smith and I got into this a little bit last week.

895
00:43:03,000 --> 00:43:05,839
Speaker 5: I believe when we talked about this, but I want

896
00:43:05,880 --> 00:43:13,040
Speaker 5: to explain it even in more detail, and because this

897
00:43:13,080 --> 00:43:18,880
Speaker 5: is where I disagree with Marcellus Wiley what Max Kellerman

898
00:43:20,760 --> 00:43:25,080
Speaker 5: did and what was doing to stephen A. Smith throughout

899
00:43:25,120 --> 00:43:30,680
Speaker 5: their time together. On first take, Max Kellerman was trying

900
00:43:30,760 --> 00:43:36,200
Speaker 5: to damage stephen A. Smith's reputation with the black audience.

901
00:43:36,760 --> 00:43:39,680
Speaker 5: Marcellus talks about we didn't show you the clip where

902
00:43:39,680 --> 00:43:43,040
Speaker 5: he went into detail about how Max grew up knows

903
00:43:43,080 --> 00:43:47,080
Speaker 5: more about rap music. Max has the right position on

904
00:43:47,200 --> 00:43:48,120
Speaker 5: Colin Kaepernick.

905
00:43:48,400 --> 00:43:51,480
Speaker 2: Marcella's basically insinuated.

906
00:43:51,080 --> 00:43:56,479
Speaker 5: That he agreed with Max Kellerman's position or take or

907
00:43:56,600 --> 00:44:00,520
Speaker 5: the way he was seen as he's blacker than stephen A.

908
00:44:00,680 --> 00:44:01,000
Speaker 6: Smith.

909
00:44:02,560 --> 00:44:06,800
Speaker 5: And I explained this to you all last week. Mats Kellerman,

910
00:44:07,080 --> 00:44:14,160
Speaker 5: in his right mind, should have defended and not put

911
00:44:14,200 --> 00:44:18,919
Speaker 5: stephen A. Smith in that position where stephen A would

912
00:44:18,960 --> 00:44:23,680
Speaker 5: have the audience questioning his blackness. Now, the entire conversation

913
00:44:24,160 --> 00:44:28,720
Speaker 5: about stephen A's blackness or anybody's blackness is stupid and silly,

914
00:44:30,880 --> 00:44:34,080
Speaker 5: but it is what the social media world has created

915
00:44:34,680 --> 00:44:38,200
Speaker 5: where there's a single group of people, black people whose

916
00:44:38,640 --> 00:44:47,040
Speaker 5: skin color or identity is completely attached to their worldview.

917
00:44:48,440 --> 00:44:53,880
Speaker 5: Somehow this dark skin of mine goes away because I

918
00:44:53,960 --> 00:44:59,279
Speaker 5: have a Biblical Christian and what they define as a

919
00:44:59,360 --> 00:45:00,799
Speaker 5: conservative worldview.

920
00:45:01,960 --> 00:45:03,440
Speaker 2: Stephen A. Smith, We've been.

921
00:45:03,320 --> 00:45:05,880
Speaker 5: Watching him try to play this dance. He goes on

922
00:45:05,960 --> 00:45:08,720
Speaker 5: Fox News, he pretends to be friends with Sean Hannity

923
00:45:09,040 --> 00:45:10,040
Speaker 5: because Steven A.

924
00:45:10,160 --> 00:45:10,520
Speaker 2: Smith.

925
00:45:11,080 --> 00:45:14,400
Speaker 5: There is some old school conservatism to Steven A.

926
00:45:14,520 --> 00:45:15,680
Speaker 2: Smith, but he.

927
00:45:15,840 --> 00:45:21,439
Speaker 5: Knows he can't live that out authentically and survive at

928
00:45:21,880 --> 00:45:26,839
Speaker 5: ESPN and survive in corporate media and corporate TV at

929
00:45:26,840 --> 00:45:32,120
Speaker 5: this time, they don't allow it. And so in order

930
00:45:32,480 --> 00:45:37,360
Speaker 5: to get the bag, Stephen A. Smith has to be

931
00:45:38,120 --> 00:45:45,680
Speaker 5: aligned with or on a show with a white host,

932
00:45:45,760 --> 00:45:48,040
Speaker 5: or at that time that was his belief, a white

933
00:45:48,080 --> 00:45:51,800
Speaker 5: host who would play the role of Skip Bayless.

934
00:45:52,680 --> 00:45:53,640
Speaker 2: Skip Bayless was the.

935
00:45:53,640 --> 00:46:00,359
Speaker 5: Guy that attacked Lebron, attacked aryll Owens, attacked other black athletes,

936
00:46:00,719 --> 00:46:05,120
Speaker 5: and that allowed Stephen A. Smith more latitude to defend

937
00:46:05,160 --> 00:46:08,960
Speaker 5: some black athletes, criticize some black athletes, but Skip would

938
00:46:09,000 --> 00:46:12,440
Speaker 5: always be the bad guy as it pertained the race.

939
00:46:15,680 --> 00:46:19,240
Speaker 5: He wanted Max Kellerman to play that role as well,

940
00:46:20,160 --> 00:46:23,520
Speaker 5: as Marcellus explained, Max Kellerman had no interest in that.

941
00:46:24,080 --> 00:46:26,200
Speaker 5: And not only did he have no interest in that,

942
00:46:27,400 --> 00:46:31,360
Speaker 5: he sat on air and giggled when Terrell Owen said

943
00:46:31,760 --> 00:46:38,120
Speaker 5: that Max is blacker than you. He allowed that narrative

944
00:46:38,160 --> 00:46:41,160
Speaker 5: to be built. That could have been for Steven A. Smith,

945
00:46:41,200 --> 00:46:44,680
Speaker 5: who defined success by money and how much money he

946
00:46:44,719 --> 00:46:48,560
Speaker 5: can earn. That that's his worldview on what success looks like.

947
00:46:50,840 --> 00:46:54,279
Speaker 5: What Max was doing could have very well cost Stephen A.

948
00:46:54,400 --> 00:47:00,000
Speaker 5: Smith millions of dollars. Could have put Steven A. Smith

949
00:47:00,560 --> 00:47:04,359
Speaker 5: in the same trick bag that Skip Bayless is now

950
00:47:04,480 --> 00:47:11,680
Speaker 5: in because of Shannon Sharp. Shannon Sharp did to Skip Bayless.

951
00:47:14,320 --> 00:47:16,760
Speaker 5: What Max was trying.

952
00:47:16,560 --> 00:47:18,160
Speaker 2: To do to Stephen A.

953
00:47:18,320 --> 00:47:24,400
Speaker 1: Smith, Oh man, okay, hmm, all right, let's don't know

954
00:47:24,520 --> 00:47:29,200
Speaker 1: what he was wrong about. In my eyes, the quote

955
00:47:29,239 --> 00:47:32,799
Speaker 1: about Max was trying to damage stephen A. Smith's reputation

956
00:47:32,960 --> 00:47:35,480
Speaker 1: in the black community.

957
00:47:35,880 --> 00:47:40,680
Speaker 2: This is gonna sound like semantics, choice words. But Max

958
00:47:40,840 --> 00:47:42,160
Speaker 2: wasn't trying.

959
00:47:42,280 --> 00:47:45,600
Speaker 1: To damage Stephen A. Smith reputation in black community. But

960
00:47:45,840 --> 00:47:50,920
Speaker 1: he was doing that same thing. But it wasn't with

961
00:47:51,080 --> 00:47:55,839
Speaker 1: his effort. It wasn't through him manufacturing something. It was

962
00:47:55,920 --> 00:48:01,520
Speaker 1: really Max just being Max, effecting Stephen a reputation in

963
00:48:01,560 --> 00:48:05,719
Speaker 1: the black community. Right now, how do you do that?

964
00:48:05,960 --> 00:48:08,880
Speaker 1: By being who you are is shining light on who

965
00:48:08,960 --> 00:48:12,120
Speaker 1: he is. And it's always that balancing act, that song

966
00:48:12,200 --> 00:48:13,600
Speaker 1: and dance in any.

967
00:48:13,400 --> 00:48:15,200
Speaker 2: Partnership, right.

968
00:48:15,920 --> 00:48:19,960
Speaker 1: Whitlock wasn't trying to damage my reputation in the black community,

969
00:48:20,680 --> 00:48:24,759
Speaker 1: but being with Whitlock damaged my reputation in the black community.

970
00:48:25,200 --> 00:48:27,239
Speaker 1: I used to say, I know it, and no one

971
00:48:27,320 --> 00:48:29,000
Speaker 1: has to defend it, and no one has to be

972
00:48:29,160 --> 00:48:31,719
Speaker 1: like surprised by it. I saw it happen for my

973
00:48:31,760 --> 00:48:37,400
Speaker 1: own eyes. I said the same exact quotes on ESPN

974
00:48:37,480 --> 00:48:40,760
Speaker 1: before I got with Whitlock at Fox, the same quotes,

975
00:48:40,840 --> 00:48:43,560
Speaker 1: because you know, you're working here and then then you're

976
00:48:43,640 --> 00:48:46,279
Speaker 1: done here in the next week or two, you're over

977
00:48:46,320 --> 00:48:49,759
Speaker 1: there working on the same topics or evergreen topic and

978
00:48:49,840 --> 00:48:51,000
Speaker 1: I regurgitate what I.

979
00:48:50,960 --> 00:48:53,239
Speaker 2: Said over there, clean it up and say it over here.

980
00:48:53,680 --> 00:48:56,759
Speaker 1: But you know, over here it landed whole different when

981
00:48:56,840 --> 00:49:00,120
Speaker 1: Carrie Champion and LZ Grandison and you are talking and

982
00:49:00,160 --> 00:49:03,239
Speaker 1: Colin Kaepernick, it sound different than when Jason Wood logging

983
00:49:03,280 --> 00:49:05,520
Speaker 1: Marcelle's while they are talking Colin Kabernick and guess who

984
00:49:05,600 --> 00:49:06,279
Speaker 1: was the same on it?

985
00:49:07,000 --> 00:49:07,080
Speaker 5: Me?

986
00:49:08,040 --> 00:49:09,839
Speaker 2: So I've seen it, so I'm not even trying to

987
00:49:10,080 --> 00:49:10,480
Speaker 2: go there.

988
00:49:10,520 --> 00:49:14,520
Speaker 1: And Jason didn't intentionally try to damage my reputation.

989
00:49:15,160 --> 00:49:18,120
Speaker 2: He wasn't trying to do it. It just occurred. So

990
00:49:18,200 --> 00:49:20,240
Speaker 2: I think that was wrong on Jason's part.

991
00:49:20,760 --> 00:49:23,600
Speaker 1: Maybe it was just a word choice, but it wasn't

992
00:49:23,640 --> 00:49:26,839
Speaker 1: what effort to me with Max Kellerman if that's what

993
00:49:26,880 --> 00:49:29,880
Speaker 1: he was implying. Another thing is he should have defended

994
00:49:29,880 --> 00:49:33,359
Speaker 1: stephen A. Smith's blackness. No, no, no, for what.

995
00:49:35,480 --> 00:49:37,000
Speaker 2: You want to hear a firestorm.

996
00:49:37,360 --> 00:49:41,000
Speaker 1: Let Max Kellerman try to defend stephen a blackness. How

997
00:49:41,320 --> 00:49:44,239
Speaker 1: we ain't get what defenders like I'm a white guy

998
00:49:44,360 --> 00:49:47,000
Speaker 1: that since I like rap, or I used to rap

999
00:49:47,040 --> 00:49:50,360
Speaker 1: and I used to hang with a gang of black

1000
00:49:50,400 --> 00:49:53,120
Speaker 1: people and I still do, or what like, how are

1001
00:49:53,120 --> 00:49:55,480
Speaker 1: you gonna defend it? First of all, I don't need

1002
00:49:55,480 --> 00:49:57,400
Speaker 1: to defend any of that stuff for you, because this

1003
00:49:57,600 --> 00:50:01,480
Speaker 1: all is really based on a a silly premise of

1004
00:50:01,520 --> 00:50:04,239
Speaker 1: what blackness is in the first place. And that's why

1005
00:50:04,280 --> 00:50:06,439
Speaker 1: I disagree with to For and I ain't like too

1006
00:50:06,560 --> 00:50:09,000
Speaker 1: For even saying that when he said that Max was

1007
00:50:09,000 --> 00:50:12,520
Speaker 1: blacker than stephen A. I was like, weird, But we

1008
00:50:12,640 --> 00:50:14,680
Speaker 1: know what he meant, so I couldn't kill him for

1009
00:50:14,760 --> 00:50:22,359
Speaker 1: it either. However, what should Max do? Your reputation impossible

1010
00:50:22,360 --> 00:50:25,239
Speaker 1: to quantify. But you know what's happening, Steven a Smith

1011
00:50:25,280 --> 00:50:28,319
Speaker 1: getting called or sell out, or people calling stephen a Smith.

1012
00:50:28,760 --> 00:50:30,880
Speaker 2: Yard boy, or you know whatever I seen.

1013
00:50:31,200 --> 00:50:33,760
Speaker 1: Oh he do anything for his bosses, his own words

1014
00:50:33,800 --> 00:50:35,680
Speaker 1: to or try to make a money, all that, but

1015
00:50:35,840 --> 00:50:40,120
Speaker 1: still getting slandered. Max comes to the defense of that. No,

1016
00:50:40,480 --> 00:50:43,319
Speaker 1: and this is where I know Jason was wrong. He

1017
00:50:43,440 --> 00:50:48,080
Speaker 1: said that Max giggled when Too said Max was blacker

1018
00:50:48,120 --> 00:50:48,560
Speaker 1: than Too.

1019
00:50:50,480 --> 00:50:53,480
Speaker 2: Max and giggle. Max was waiting forever to try and

1020
00:50:53,520 --> 00:50:54,719
Speaker 2: get in in that conversation.

1021
00:50:55,040 --> 00:50:57,240
Speaker 1: Too and stephen A were just going over there, sucking

1022
00:50:57,280 --> 00:51:00,200
Speaker 1: out with all the oxygen in the room, going back back,

1023
00:51:00,600 --> 00:51:02,319
Speaker 1: and Max was trying to double dutch trying to get

1024
00:51:02,360 --> 00:51:04,319
Speaker 1: in there, and then finally he was about to get

1025
00:51:04,320 --> 00:51:08,960
Speaker 1: in there, and then Teo said that he said, hit

1026
00:51:09,000 --> 00:51:12,000
Speaker 1: him with that emoji, he and giggle. And I think

1027
00:51:12,080 --> 00:51:14,239
Speaker 1: that was kind of the basis for a lot of

1028
00:51:14,239 --> 00:51:17,640
Speaker 1: what Whitlock was saying, or at least he thought that

1029
00:51:17,680 --> 00:51:20,399
Speaker 1: Max giggle, so he thought it was intentional, which leads

1030
00:51:20,400 --> 00:51:23,200
Speaker 1: to my first point of him trying to damage stephen

1031
00:51:23,280 --> 00:51:27,640
Speaker 1: A Smith's reputation. I think Withock misread all of that.

1032
00:51:28,560 --> 00:51:31,719
Speaker 1: Max was not giggling. Max was like, I am the

1033
00:51:31,760 --> 00:51:34,600
Speaker 1: white guy up here, stuck in an odd place. Who

1034
00:51:34,680 --> 00:51:37,319
Speaker 1: better just stay out of this one because this ain't

1035
00:51:37,320 --> 00:51:41,600
Speaker 1: about me. It's between y'all. My name is Paul, all right.

1036
00:51:41,719 --> 00:51:50,319
Speaker 1: So it's interesting that Max, in this whole situation, was

1037
00:51:50,400 --> 00:51:54,480
Speaker 1: being authentic and got put in inserted in a place

1038
00:51:55,040 --> 00:52:00,799
Speaker 1: that detonated, and he became collateral damage. Max got scapegolded,

1039
00:52:00,920 --> 00:52:04,040
Speaker 1: just like Whitlock got scapegolded in the issue of words

1040
00:52:04,080 --> 00:52:06,760
Speaker 1: between stephen A and I. Stephen A had a problem

1041
00:52:06,800 --> 00:52:10,440
Speaker 1: with me. Guess what he does with Locke, You fet bastard.

1042
00:52:14,719 --> 00:52:16,080
Speaker 1: Steven A got a problem with Tyo.

1043
00:52:16,160 --> 00:52:20,920
Speaker 2: Guess what he does? Take it out on Max? Now

1044
00:52:21,280 --> 00:52:23,200
Speaker 2: Max is gone. Max was gone just.

1045
00:52:23,160 --> 00:52:27,880
Speaker 1: Because Tyo called what everybody was seeing at that time

1046
00:52:28,280 --> 00:52:31,399
Speaker 1: or saying at that time. So that's what he did,

1047
00:52:31,520 --> 00:52:35,319
Speaker 1: That's what he does, all right. Very dangerous. What I

1048
00:52:35,440 --> 00:52:41,160
Speaker 1: witnessed there, very dangerous. And I went through this experience

1049
00:52:41,200 --> 00:52:44,360
Speaker 1: growing up. My best friend growing up before he got killed,

1050
00:52:45,840 --> 00:52:50,120
Speaker 1: was a Vietnamese and black kid named Corby Van Drake

1051
00:52:50,640 --> 00:52:57,279
Speaker 1: Kay Corby, Black Kid loved the ride bikes with me.

1052
00:52:57,600 --> 00:52:59,799
Speaker 1: Corby had five more dollars than me, but we lived

1053
00:53:00,040 --> 00:53:02,239
Speaker 1: stirred each other in the same apartment building. But he

1054
00:53:02,320 --> 00:53:04,480
Speaker 1: had five more dollars because his mom worked at the

1055
00:53:04,520 --> 00:53:08,520
Speaker 1: bank and his dad.

1056
00:53:07,800 --> 00:53:10,120
Speaker 2: Had a job as well. Forget what his dad did.

1057
00:53:10,160 --> 00:53:14,920
Speaker 1: Damn anyway, two incomes in this house. I'm on welfare,

1058
00:53:14,960 --> 00:53:19,000
Speaker 1: but I live in apartment building there.

1059
00:53:20,760 --> 00:53:22,640
Speaker 2: We both loved bikes. I had a huffy.

1060
00:53:22,800 --> 00:53:25,200
Speaker 1: He had like a diamond back or a redline one

1061
00:53:25,200 --> 00:53:27,239
Speaker 1: of them bikes you had a name signature and on that.

1062
00:53:27,400 --> 00:53:29,200
Speaker 2: His bike was faster than me, but I had a huffy.

1063
00:53:29,360 --> 00:53:32,480
Speaker 1: I kept up with him, but he also because he

1064
00:53:32,480 --> 00:53:35,280
Speaker 1: had five more dollars than me, explored and did other things.

1065
00:53:36,640 --> 00:53:42,040
Speaker 2: He liked skateboarding. Black Kid liked skateboarding.

1066
00:53:42,040 --> 00:53:46,360
Speaker 1: We went to two different elementary schools, despite living ten feet.

1067
00:53:46,120 --> 00:53:46,919
Speaker 2: Away from each other.

1068
00:53:47,040 --> 00:53:49,400
Speaker 1: Because of the zoning of the La County and city,

1069
00:53:49,680 --> 00:53:52,359
Speaker 1: it literally went through our building right through us.

1070
00:53:52,800 --> 00:53:55,200
Speaker 2: I went to a more urban school, is that what

1071
00:53:55,239 --> 00:53:55,640
Speaker 2: you call it?

1072
00:53:55,840 --> 00:54:00,200
Speaker 1: More black kids, less affluent, fifty fourth Street Elementary schoo

1073
00:54:00,320 --> 00:54:03,120
Speaker 1: He went to Windsor Hills Elementary School. The names even

1074
00:54:03,160 --> 00:54:07,279
Speaker 1: suggest the difference. Fifty fourth Street, Windsor heells. I wanted

1075
00:54:07,280 --> 00:54:08,880
Speaker 1: to go to Windsor Hills from day one because it

1076
00:54:09,000 --> 00:54:11,680
Speaker 1: was a nicer school. Couldn't get in because I lived

1077
00:54:11,680 --> 00:54:15,400
Speaker 1: a few feet away. Ain't that crazy anyway? I remember

1078
00:54:15,440 --> 00:54:21,879
Speaker 1: Korby coming home, mister bike rider, skateboard lover, and he

1079
00:54:21,960 --> 00:54:24,719
Speaker 1: loved rock and roll because his dad was in the military.

1080
00:54:25,000 --> 00:54:30,600
Speaker 1: Came back loving rock and roll. Korby used to get

1081
00:54:30,640 --> 00:54:36,080
Speaker 1: called white, acting white? Why not because he looked.

1082
00:54:35,840 --> 00:54:40,680
Speaker 2: At because he liked rock and roll and skateboarding, which

1083
00:54:40,680 --> 00:54:41,600
Speaker 2: were deemed white.

1084
00:54:42,840 --> 00:54:45,000
Speaker 1: Now this is my best friend, so guess what happens

1085
00:54:45,719 --> 00:54:47,920
Speaker 1: sooner or later. I ain't gonna ever pick up the

1086
00:54:47,920 --> 00:54:49,880
Speaker 1: skateboarding because I saw him fall off of rock run

1087
00:54:50,280 --> 00:54:52,040
Speaker 1: here in the rock room. I was like, oh hell no,

1088
00:54:52,320 --> 00:54:55,280
Speaker 1: my bike would have rolled over that rock. Your skateboarding alone,

1089
00:54:55,400 --> 00:54:57,719
Speaker 1: I said, no old skateboarding for me. I'm trying to

1090
00:54:57,719 --> 00:55:00,839
Speaker 1: be an athlete. However, that band had it sound good.

1091
00:55:00,880 --> 00:55:10,560
Speaker 1: Put that back on. I was like, Miles, Well, Jump

1092
00:55:11,640 --> 00:55:16,080
Speaker 1: Go Ahead Jump were playing at Panama little kids ten

1093
00:55:16,120 --> 00:55:21,279
Speaker 1: and eleven. I don't know Panama. I go to school now.

1094
00:55:21,280 --> 00:55:23,239
Speaker 1: I like all the rap like everybody else too. You

1095
00:55:23,280 --> 00:55:25,560
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, I rock saying. I'm just Shine

1096
00:55:25,640 --> 00:55:28,000
Speaker 1: tact like, yeah, come on, y'all.

1097
00:55:28,480 --> 00:55:32,000
Speaker 2: But I also like, Panama, do you know these suckers

1098
00:55:32,000 --> 00:55:34,160
Speaker 2: at school start trying to say, ah, you acting white,

1099
00:55:36,080 --> 00:55:37,960
Speaker 2: you were hanging with the white folks. I was like, damn,

1100
00:55:38,120 --> 00:55:39,040
Speaker 2: where'd that come from?

1101
00:55:39,840 --> 00:55:41,919
Speaker 1: And it was a time where all that stuff was real,

1102
00:55:41,960 --> 00:55:44,319
Speaker 1: maybe still now, but these are certain things that white

1103
00:55:44,360 --> 00:55:46,440
Speaker 1: people do. These are certain things that black people do.

1104
00:55:46,960 --> 00:55:50,240
Speaker 1: How simple and lazy is that? How simple and lazy

1105
00:55:50,320 --> 00:55:54,120
Speaker 1: is that to label Stephen a Smith that way? And

1106
00:55:54,160 --> 00:55:56,480
Speaker 1: then how simple and lazy it is for Stephen A

1107
00:55:56,520 --> 00:55:59,160
Speaker 1: Smith to take all of that, internalize it and then

1108
00:55:59,360 --> 00:56:02,480
Speaker 1: have to regis how black he sounded or not. That's

1109
00:56:02,520 --> 00:56:05,960
Speaker 1: what made him act out because he was keeping receipts

1110
00:56:06,000 --> 00:56:08,200
Speaker 1: of what people were saying about him. So then when

1111
00:56:08,200 --> 00:56:11,319
Speaker 1: Too said it, oh that's enough, that's it, what you mean,

1112
00:56:11,320 --> 00:56:12,759
Speaker 1: that's it? I just said one thing, what you mean,

1113
00:56:12,800 --> 00:56:14,920
Speaker 1: that's it? That was the straw that broke the camel's back,

1114
00:56:15,080 --> 00:56:19,320
Speaker 1: is what he meant. Anyway, I dealt with that myself

1115
00:56:19,360 --> 00:56:21,600
Speaker 1: as well, So I get it now back to Whitlock

1116
00:56:22,440 --> 00:56:24,600
Speaker 1: based on that sound Whitlock was right about.

1117
00:56:25,800 --> 00:56:26,400
Speaker 2: And Stephen A.

1118
00:56:26,520 --> 00:56:30,920
Speaker 1: Smith caught up in this I hate to say it,

1119
00:56:31,040 --> 00:56:35,560
Speaker 1: this tug award that's going on in mainstream media, and

1120
00:56:35,600 --> 00:56:39,799
Speaker 1: it's real. In order to get the bag, you got

1121
00:56:39,800 --> 00:56:44,760
Speaker 1: to hide that conservative side. Oh you going on Fox News?

1122
00:56:44,800 --> 00:56:45,880
Speaker 1: You cool with Hannity?

1123
00:56:47,000 --> 00:56:52,240
Speaker 2: Oh interesting? It was taking some damage.

1124
00:56:52,320 --> 00:56:55,719
Speaker 1: It was damaging his reputation something to just be going

1125
00:56:55,760 --> 00:56:57,480
Speaker 1: on that show. And I was like, what kind of

1126
00:56:57,600 --> 00:56:59,600
Speaker 1: silly world we live in where if you don't go

1127
00:56:59,640 --> 00:57:02,520
Speaker 1: on see oh you a coom.

1128
00:57:03,800 --> 00:57:05,040
Speaker 2: And that's where the world was.

1129
00:57:06,400 --> 00:57:09,040
Speaker 1: And so what Whitlock was right about is he needed

1130
00:57:09,040 --> 00:57:12,799
Speaker 1: a skip Bayless. He needed a head nodder on these

1131
00:57:12,800 --> 00:57:15,640
Speaker 1: social issues like you got it, whatever you say, Steven,

1132
00:57:15,800 --> 00:57:18,600
Speaker 1: and more im poortantly. When it came to attacking black athletes,

1133
00:57:18,680 --> 00:57:21,200
Speaker 1: I needed a white guy to do it worse than me.

1134
00:57:24,000 --> 00:57:25,520
Speaker 2: Because then I could pick and choose.

1135
00:57:25,560 --> 00:57:28,200
Speaker 1: This is what Whitlock is right about, pick and choose

1136
00:57:28,200 --> 00:57:29,560
Speaker 1: which one I could jump on with you.

1137
00:57:29,560 --> 00:57:32,400
Speaker 2: We could double team that black athlete, but the other ones, Hey, I.

1138
00:57:32,440 --> 00:57:35,760
Speaker 1: Chill and you look like the bad guy. And Max

1139
00:57:35,800 --> 00:57:39,680
Speaker 1: didn't play that role. What Max respects athletes like I do,

1140
00:57:39,840 --> 00:57:41,240
Speaker 1: like really like really.

1141
00:57:41,600 --> 00:57:41,800
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1142
00:57:41,880 --> 00:57:44,080
Speaker 1: I've heard them too many times saying, do you know

1143
00:57:44,120 --> 00:57:46,840
Speaker 1: how good the guy, the eleven guy on the bench is.

1144
00:57:47,120 --> 00:57:48,920
Speaker 1: You know how good he is to just be in

1145
00:57:48,960 --> 00:57:51,400
Speaker 1: the NBA. So he ain't built for that. I wasn't

1146
00:57:51,400 --> 00:57:51,880
Speaker 1: built for that.

1147
00:57:51,880 --> 00:57:55,880
Speaker 2: That's why our show was our show. And he wanted

1148
00:57:55,920 --> 00:57:57,720
Speaker 2: Max to play that role or I know that for

1149
00:57:57,800 --> 00:58:00,920
Speaker 2: facts Now, he ain't gonna eason why he won't ever

1150
00:58:00,960 --> 00:58:03,400
Speaker 2: address my points and I don't want him to anymore

1151
00:58:03,480 --> 00:58:06,720
Speaker 2: because I already know. I already knew then it's because

1152
00:58:06,760 --> 00:58:10,440
Speaker 2: these points are real. This ain't this ain't no play playing.

1153
00:58:10,440 --> 00:58:12,439
Speaker 2: I'm not doing this for clicks views view.

1154
00:58:12,600 --> 00:58:15,000
Speaker 1: He and not doing the click views were discussing this

1155
00:58:15,080 --> 00:58:19,560
Speaker 1: the way we always discuss stuff through the medium. He

1156
00:58:19,560 --> 00:58:22,760
Speaker 1: ain't gonna ever challenge those things. Good for him, because

1157
00:58:22,840 --> 00:58:25,479
Speaker 1: I do not want him squirming no more. These things

1158
00:58:25,480 --> 00:58:29,040
Speaker 1: are real. So Max didn't choose that role that box.

1159
00:58:29,120 --> 00:58:31,920
Speaker 1: Max was being himself. Now I will say this, Max

1160
00:58:31,960 --> 00:58:34,200
Speaker 1: did change himself up in this way. He was a

1161
00:58:34,440 --> 00:58:39,120
Speaker 1: tamer version of himself. He wasn't He wasn't playing at

1162
00:58:39,120 --> 00:58:42,000
Speaker 1: a high volume based on his capacities. And I told

1163
00:58:42,040 --> 00:58:44,840
Speaker 1: him that before. I was like dog this ain't all Max,

1164
00:58:44,880 --> 00:58:47,120
Speaker 1: We're all Max at you know what?

1165
00:58:47,160 --> 00:58:49,479
Speaker 2: It was that resistance that was there.

1166
00:58:49,680 --> 00:58:51,400
Speaker 1: Max was trying to get in where you fit in,

1167
00:58:51,840 --> 00:58:54,080
Speaker 1: and it was nowhere to fit in because they wouldn't

1168
00:58:54,120 --> 00:58:57,760
Speaker 1: let him get in. Catch that this whole situation could

1169
00:58:57,760 --> 00:58:59,160
Speaker 1: have been handled differently stephen A.

1170
00:58:59,240 --> 00:58:59,880
Speaker 2: Smith and Keller.

1171
00:59:00,560 --> 00:59:02,280
Speaker 1: I would have never jumped in if there would have

1172
00:59:02,320 --> 00:59:05,200
Speaker 1: just been handled like I don't know Greenberg and Golic.

1173
00:59:06,720 --> 00:59:10,040
Speaker 1: Greenberg dipped on Golic and it ain't I don't know

1174
00:59:10,360 --> 00:59:12,560
Speaker 1: what he said, but it ain't been no two year

1175
00:59:12,640 --> 00:59:16,960
Speaker 1: tour of slamming Golic. He just moved on, said let's

1176
00:59:16,960 --> 00:59:22,000
Speaker 1: get up and let's go ahead now. Immediately it's like,

1177
00:59:22,360 --> 00:59:25,720
Speaker 1: how come stephen A. Smith in handling it like Greenberg? Now,

1178
00:59:25,760 --> 00:59:28,440
Speaker 1: Greenberg took some shots too, because Golic was like, Yo,

1179
00:59:28,520 --> 00:59:30,680
Speaker 1: what's up? And I've seen some interviews and stuff. But

1180
00:59:30,720 --> 00:59:31,400
Speaker 1: the point is.

1181
00:59:31,840 --> 00:59:34,960
Speaker 2: If you got the power, flex, but then move on

1182
00:59:35,040 --> 00:59:35,600
Speaker 2: to the next.

1183
00:59:35,880 --> 00:59:38,760
Speaker 1: Don't stomp them out what you're stomping for two years

1184
00:59:38,760 --> 00:59:41,080
Speaker 1: for I don't care who it is, I'm coming to

1185
00:59:41,120 --> 00:59:44,640
Speaker 1: their A, I'm coming to their aid YEP. And I

1186
00:59:44,680 --> 00:59:47,080
Speaker 1: was just like, damn, that's wow. This could have been

1187
00:59:47,080 --> 00:59:50,160
Speaker 1: a much cleaner break. See the differences because it's happened

1188
00:59:50,200 --> 00:59:52,440
Speaker 1: for this ain't the first time somebody say, peace out,

1189
00:59:52,560 --> 00:59:53,760
Speaker 1: I told you I did it before.

1190
00:59:53,800 --> 00:59:56,280
Speaker 2: Did y'all know? Did y'all know I did it before?

1191
00:59:56,880 --> 01:00:00,480
Speaker 1: Come on, y'all interests in So there's a lot of

1192
01:00:00,480 --> 01:00:03,240
Speaker 1: fascination about this topic. I'll always sprinkle it in when

1193
01:00:03,280 --> 01:00:06,480
Speaker 1: I find a new level, new life, lesson, something to learn,

1194
01:00:06,520 --> 01:00:09,480
Speaker 1: to unlearn, somebody's right, somebody's wrong, et cetera, whatever it

1195
01:00:09,480 --> 01:00:11,840
Speaker 1: may be. But there is a fascination about this topic.

1196
01:00:11,880 --> 01:00:13,920
Speaker 1: So y'all can admit it. Y'all groupies to this topic?

1197
01:00:14,400 --> 01:00:14,720
Speaker 2: Why?

1198
01:00:15,160 --> 01:00:16,640
Speaker 1: And this is another reason I just put it in

1199
01:00:16,680 --> 01:00:18,360
Speaker 1: my show. I'm like, I ain't gonna do no clips

1200
01:00:18,360 --> 01:00:20,000
Speaker 1: for this. I want to see what y'all go for.

1201
01:00:20,440 --> 01:00:26,360
Speaker 1: Board analytics support this. Y'all love this, yaw y'all fascinated

1202
01:00:26,360 --> 01:00:27,040
Speaker 1: about this topic?

1203
01:00:27,080 --> 01:00:27,360
Speaker 2: Why?

1204
01:00:27,760 --> 01:00:29,960
Speaker 1: And don't say you're not, because if you even respond

1205
01:00:30,000 --> 01:00:32,680
Speaker 1: say I hate this topic, you should stop talking about it.

1206
01:00:33,160 --> 01:00:33,440
Speaker 2: Why.

1207
01:00:34,120 --> 01:00:36,040
Speaker 1: I watched TV this morning. I saw a lot of

1208
01:00:36,080 --> 01:00:39,160
Speaker 1: Cowboys topics. Oh tonight they play the Chargers and they

1209
01:00:39,160 --> 01:00:43,360
Speaker 1: will lose. I'm going to that game. Can't wait? Is

1210
01:00:43,400 --> 01:00:47,080
Speaker 1: it fascination just stephen A. Smith because he's the king

1211
01:00:48,720 --> 01:00:50,640
Speaker 1: him and I keep wanting to say McAfee too, because

1212
01:00:50,640 --> 01:00:51,439
Speaker 1: he's making all that money.

1213
01:00:51,480 --> 01:00:52,680
Speaker 2: But Stephen A. Smith, right?

1214
01:00:54,520 --> 01:00:56,400
Speaker 1: Is it because he took a two year tour of

1215
01:00:56,520 --> 01:01:00,280
Speaker 1: trash in Max? Is it just because it's Mac in

1216
01:01:00,320 --> 01:01:04,000
Speaker 1: his silence? Like, damn, how gangstad are you? The g

1217
01:01:04,240 --> 01:01:08,280
Speaker 1: in Lasagna is silent, the sucker. He ain't saying a word.

1218
01:01:08,360 --> 01:01:08,880
Speaker 2: Is it that?

1219
01:01:09,800 --> 01:01:12,040
Speaker 1: Or is it the fact that a lot of people

1220
01:01:12,080 --> 01:01:14,520
Speaker 1: are taking up from Max and nobody seems to be

1221
01:01:14,520 --> 01:01:18,600
Speaker 1: taking up with stephen A. I don't know what it is.

1222
01:01:18,640 --> 01:01:21,120
Speaker 1: Bob would love to learn. Beat it up in the comments.

1223
01:01:21,320 --> 01:01:23,640
Speaker 1: A lot of y'all always say I only do eighties. Yeah,

1224
01:01:23,680 --> 01:01:25,240
Speaker 1: I'm gonna start off in the eighties. I'm gonna get

1225
01:01:25,280 --> 01:01:27,880
Speaker 1: my way up to the nineties and two thousands. But

1226
01:01:28,320 --> 01:01:30,440
Speaker 1: I got a start back where it started, where it

1227
01:01:30,560 --> 01:01:33,520
Speaker 1: helped develop me, where it helped inspire me. And I

1228
01:01:33,640 --> 01:01:38,200
Speaker 1: remember this moment, no Lie, I ran track with these guys,

1229
01:01:38,240 --> 01:01:41,919
Speaker 1: the triplets, they were really triplets, Jeff, Mark and Mike

1230
01:01:42,600 --> 01:01:45,840
Speaker 1: and Fast. They was on our national record relay team,

1231
01:01:45,880 --> 01:01:47,960
Speaker 1: two of them. You imagine being the third triplet down

1232
01:01:47,960 --> 01:01:51,080
Speaker 1: on that relay. You can't say because they're older than

1233
01:01:51,120 --> 01:01:54,400
Speaker 1: you can say because they faster though, So anyway, that

1234
01:01:54,480 --> 01:01:56,960
Speaker 1: was that was always scratched my head. But sang Yika,

1235
01:01:57,080 --> 01:01:59,360
Speaker 1: myself and two of the trips, we were just fast

1236
01:01:59,440 --> 01:02:01,480
Speaker 1: fast anyway.

1237
01:02:02,040 --> 01:02:04,680
Speaker 2: I remember they had this huge radio. I thought I

1238
01:02:04,720 --> 01:02:05,560
Speaker 2: had a big radio.

1239
01:02:05,880 --> 01:02:10,800
Speaker 1: I had a nice Toshiba about this high, this wide.

1240
01:02:11,240 --> 01:02:14,400
Speaker 1: Then my sister had the exact same one, same model

1241
01:02:14,480 --> 01:02:17,640
Speaker 1: number kind of like that level, and hers was a

1242
01:02:17,680 --> 01:02:19,800
Speaker 1: Magna box and I thought she had one. Hers was

1243
01:02:19,800 --> 01:02:22,600
Speaker 1: a little louder than mine, but way sensitive and stuff.

1244
01:02:22,920 --> 01:02:26,040
Speaker 1: Her buttons were all like touch touch sensitive and you

1245
01:02:26,160 --> 01:02:27,640
Speaker 1: touch in and it just suck in. I was like,

1246
01:02:28,040 --> 01:02:29,920
Speaker 1: I need to beat my buttons up, so right, so

1247
01:02:29,960 --> 01:02:32,720
Speaker 1: I had this. I went to the trip's house one

1248
01:02:32,720 --> 01:02:33,920
Speaker 1: time and I remember standing.

1249
01:02:33,720 --> 01:02:37,120
Speaker 2: Sitting on their front porch and they brought up they radio,

1250
01:02:37,480 --> 01:02:39,240
Speaker 2: and I guess cause it was three of them. They

1251
01:02:39,320 --> 01:02:42,320
Speaker 2: radio was three times three times bigger than mine. That

1252
01:02:42,480 --> 01:02:44,840
Speaker 2: sucker was like. I was like what they like? Went

1253
01:02:44,880 --> 01:02:46,720
Speaker 2: to the swap mean got one of those with the

1254
01:02:46,800 --> 01:02:48,960
Speaker 2: lights that go sideways to that big I said eight

1255
01:02:49,080 --> 01:02:51,240
Speaker 2: radio was like this big. I was like god dang.

1256
01:02:52,040 --> 01:02:54,640
Speaker 1: And then the first song they ever played on they

1257
01:02:54,760 --> 01:03:02,320
Speaker 1: radio rap already out and they a little younger than me,

1258
01:03:02,360 --> 01:03:04,760
Speaker 1: a year or so younger than me, so all right,

1259
01:03:04,880 --> 01:03:06,880
Speaker 1: played stuff on mine and they was like, you heard

1260
01:03:06,880 --> 01:03:09,480
Speaker 1: this one, Yeah, you heard this one stuff, and they

1261
01:03:09,480 --> 01:03:10,880
Speaker 1: put it in and guess what came out?

1262
01:03:11,000 --> 01:03:13,560
Speaker 2: Soon they hit play you Got the Shell and the

1263
01:03:13,600 --> 01:03:14,840
Speaker 2: shell shell.

1264
01:03:15,120 --> 01:03:20,920
Speaker 1: And it got quiet anyway moll pounds, I was like.

1265
01:03:22,080 --> 01:03:23,880
Speaker 2: And then I was like, I was already blown. I

1266
01:03:23,880 --> 01:03:26,080
Speaker 2: was like, this is a sick beat. That's me. I

1267
01:03:26,080 --> 01:03:27,520
Speaker 2: got two seconds to tell you if I like the

1268
01:03:27,560 --> 01:03:28,640
Speaker 2: song or now, and it's all.

1269
01:03:28,560 --> 01:03:30,600
Speaker 1: The beat and I was like, oh dope. And then

1270
01:03:30,880 --> 01:03:35,080
Speaker 1: relax your mind, let your body. I was like, that's

1271
01:03:35,080 --> 01:03:38,000
Speaker 1: an East Coast rapper, Like that ain't West Coast because

1272
01:03:38,000 --> 01:03:40,240
Speaker 1: you know you got some chills, zap. That's all our stuff.

1273
01:03:40,240 --> 01:03:44,440
Speaker 2: And I heard EPMD was born in my head. It

1274
01:03:44,640 --> 01:03:47,520
Speaker 2: was the best. Oh they hit me the epm D.

1275
01:03:47,640 --> 01:03:49,840
Speaker 1: Shout out to the Trips not only for the national

1276
01:03:49,880 --> 01:03:52,920
Speaker 1: record in the relay, but y'all the first ones that

1277
01:03:52,960 --> 01:03:54,280
Speaker 1: played the EPMD.

1278
01:03:53,880 --> 01:03:57,120
Speaker 2: For me, I was like, damn, that joke. Next level.

1279
01:03:57,160 --> 01:04:00,640
Speaker 1: All right, y'all, let's get into this last bonus right

1280
01:04:00,720 --> 01:04:05,000
Speaker 1: Chia fly through this. Deon Sanders was talking about he

1281
01:04:05,040 --> 01:04:09,760
Speaker 1: don't like them late start times for them games APM. Yeah,

1282
01:04:10,120 --> 01:04:13,160
Speaker 1: I don't like them either, because on Friday nights and

1283
01:04:13,160 --> 01:04:15,120
Speaker 1: stuff like that, even if I ain't going out, I

1284
01:04:15,120 --> 01:04:16,920
Speaker 1: ain't going no club and stuff like that, but maybe

1285
01:04:16,960 --> 01:04:18,040
Speaker 1: a dinner or something like that.

1286
01:04:18,280 --> 01:04:20,520
Speaker 2: But if it's a good game on that time, that's

1287
01:04:20,520 --> 01:04:21,360
Speaker 2: a bad time.

1288
01:04:21,720 --> 01:04:24,000
Speaker 1: You're making me make a hard choice, like a done

1289
01:04:24,080 --> 01:04:26,240
Speaker 1: worked all week. I ain't about to stay home and

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Speaker 1: watch no more football at night that late, But I

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01:04:29,480 --> 01:04:31,120
Speaker 1: guess a lot of us are because the ratings are

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Speaker 1: showing that football even in that time slot, the ratings

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01:04:35,000 --> 01:04:37,840
Speaker 1: are up. So he questioned the late start time, said

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01:04:37,880 --> 01:04:40,800
Speaker 1: he didn't like it. Colin Coward had to respond to

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Speaker 1: this criticism, saying, you may dislike late kickoffs, but it's

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01:04:44,680 --> 01:04:50,000
Speaker 1: the reality of today's football landscape why cause football dominates

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01:04:50,080 --> 01:04:54,840
Speaker 1: not only our national sports conversation, but the ratings. Like

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Speaker 1: the best TV shows out there in terms of ratings

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01:04:58,560 --> 01:05:03,480
Speaker 1: are all foot like football games literally just that. And

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01:05:03,520 --> 01:05:05,440
Speaker 1: it's gonna get even crazier because they're gonna have the

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01:05:05,440 --> 01:05:09,360
Speaker 1: conference realignments. Team's gonna be even more intriguing and interesting

1302
01:05:09,440 --> 01:05:12,480
Speaker 1: in terms of the matchups. More importantly, there's gonna be

1303
01:05:12,480 --> 01:05:16,200
Speaker 1: a twelve team playoff that's coming on the horizon as well.

1304
01:05:16,600 --> 01:05:21,360
Speaker 2: And take the compliment like it comes. Man Dion is interesting.

1305
01:05:21,480 --> 01:05:25,440
Speaker 1: Colorado's interesting despite them not winning all their games. Therefore,

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01:05:25,960 --> 01:05:29,080
Speaker 1: because of that interest, they're gonna put them in prime

1307
01:05:29,240 --> 01:05:33,600
Speaker 1: time slots or even late night Friday stocks and more

1308
01:05:33,600 --> 01:05:38,520
Speaker 1: of them coming too, because potentially the WWE and Friday

1309
01:05:38,600 --> 01:05:41,840
Speaker 1: Night SmackDown may leave Fox. They gonna end up, I

1310
01:05:42,080 --> 01:05:44,720
Speaker 1: tell you now, they're gonna end up rebranding something called

1311
01:05:45,480 --> 01:05:48,880
Speaker 1: Friday Night Football instead of SmackDown. And there's gonna be

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Speaker 1: all on Fox, and there's gonna be matchups like this.

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01:05:51,800 --> 01:05:53,640
Speaker 1: Colorado gonna be up in there when they get the

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01:05:53,680 --> 01:05:57,000
Speaker 1: Pac twelve going all the way Track twelve gone. But

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01:05:57,040 --> 01:06:00,640
Speaker 1: all those teams going USC UCLA playing Michigan, Ohio State.

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01:06:00,640 --> 01:06:02,200
Speaker 2: Good Lord, Penn Stak.

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01:06:02,840 --> 01:06:07,000
Speaker 1: Friday Night football on Fox. I f I can see

1318
01:06:07,000 --> 01:06:10,720
Speaker 1: all them s. Friday Night Football on Fox. It's happening

1319
01:06:10,800 --> 01:06:13,160
Speaker 1: right now. So what's y'all start time?

1320
01:06:13,280 --> 01:06:13,760
Speaker 2: Like limit?

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01:06:13,880 --> 01:06:16,200
Speaker 1: Like y'all gotta point you like after this time, I'm

1322
01:06:16,240 --> 01:06:17,560
Speaker 1: tapped out. It's on DVR.

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01:06:17,640 --> 01:06:17,760
Speaker 2: Bro.

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01:06:18,360 --> 01:06:21,240
Speaker 1: You know what's your thoughts on late football game starts?

1325
01:06:21,280 --> 01:06:24,080
Speaker 1: You like it, hate it, don't give a damn Dion.

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01:06:24,080 --> 01:06:26,280
Speaker 1: I gotta take this compliment, man. It just is what

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01:06:26,360 --> 01:06:26,760
Speaker 1: it is.

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01:06:27,080 --> 01:06:28,400
Speaker 2: You know. I remember the first time I played on

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01:06:28,400 --> 01:06:30,080
Speaker 2: Monday night football. Ain't like it. I ain't like the

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01:06:30,080 --> 01:06:31,720
Speaker 2: feel of it. I'm like, what time is it?

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01:06:32,480 --> 01:06:34,160
Speaker 1: I should have been done with the game already, were

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01:06:34,200 --> 01:06:37,040
Speaker 1: about start. It does feel a little different or early

1333
01:06:37,080 --> 01:06:40,120
Speaker 1: start time. Your bio rhythms are off. But same time,

1334
01:06:40,680 --> 01:06:43,760
Speaker 1: this is gonna amplify the game. More money, more nil money,

1335
01:06:43,800 --> 01:06:46,440
Speaker 1: more salary money for Dion, etc.

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Speaker 2: Ruh.

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Speaker 1: So you believe these late kickoffs significant issue for viewers

1338
01:06:51,520 --> 01:06:54,280
Speaker 1: and fans or is it simply part of the evolving

1339
01:06:54,400 --> 01:06:56,680
Speaker 1: landscape of televised sports.

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01:06:57,080 --> 01:06:58,600
Speaker 2: I say the latter.

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Speaker 1: All right, let's talk up from common funk up some comments? Yeah,

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01:07:02,160 --> 01:07:05,640
Speaker 1: well these are from Friday's show. Let's see what they

1343
01:07:05,760 --> 01:07:08,280
Speaker 1: talking about. Oh, they talking about the Max Kellerman stuff.

1344
01:07:08,440 --> 01:07:11,080
Speaker 1: Glad you stood up for Max. Totally disrespectful. How Stephen A.

1345
01:07:11,160 --> 01:07:15,200
Speaker 2: Smith ran around talking about him? Then Stephen A. Smith

1346
01:07:15,280 --> 01:07:17,320
Speaker 2: claiming he's being attacked.

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01:07:17,400 --> 01:07:20,600
Speaker 1: Yeah that was weak. Max, stay's respectful. Keep doing what

1348
01:07:20,640 --> 01:07:23,560
Speaker 1: you do. You and Maxie. The podcast will listen. Max

1349
01:07:23,600 --> 01:07:26,000
Speaker 1: and I have talked about a podcast.

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01:07:26,280 --> 01:07:29,640
Speaker 2: That's it. We have talked about it. We'll continue to

1351
01:07:29,680 --> 01:07:34,000
Speaker 2: talk about it, I'm sure in the future, but those conversations. Look,

1352
01:07:34,240 --> 01:07:35,400
Speaker 2: I tell y'all what the real is.

1353
01:07:35,760 --> 01:07:37,960
Speaker 1: We got something in our back pocket that we know

1354
01:07:38,080 --> 01:07:41,280
Speaker 1: we can play Big Joker and it can always play.

1355
01:07:41,480 --> 01:07:44,680
Speaker 1: In the meantime, I'm doing this, and in the meantime,

1356
01:07:44,920 --> 01:07:47,400
Speaker 1: Max is going to the mailbox every month getting checks

1357
01:07:47,400 --> 01:07:48,200
Speaker 1: from the ESPN.

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01:07:49,600 --> 01:07:54,280
Speaker 2: Timing is everything. SFY is not the same without Whitlock

1359
01:07:54,320 --> 01:07:56,680
Speaker 2: and Wiley. Well it shouldn't be. We ain't there. Let

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01:07:56,680 --> 01:07:57,040
Speaker 2: me stop.

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01:07:57,240 --> 01:08:02,200
Speaker 1: Marcellus the educator would always give us like lessons during

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01:08:02,240 --> 01:08:04,480
Speaker 1: the show, and that's one of the things I miss most.

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01:08:04,760 --> 01:08:06,320
Speaker 2: Although SFY is pretty.

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01:08:06,200 --> 01:08:10,200
Speaker 1: Entertaining with those forecasts now, but I never felt smarter

1365
01:08:10,640 --> 01:08:12,760
Speaker 1: after watching it. It's like going to an all you

1366
01:08:12,760 --> 01:08:14,959
Speaker 1: can eat buffet and then when you leave you're full,

1367
01:08:15,040 --> 01:08:17,240
Speaker 1: but you realize the quality of the food isn't better

1368
01:08:17,479 --> 01:08:19,920
Speaker 1: than that of a restaurant. Sfy I had a lot

1369
01:08:19,960 --> 01:08:21,240
Speaker 1: more substance while.

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01:08:21,000 --> 01:08:21,479
Speaker 2: He was there.

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01:08:21,880 --> 01:08:25,280
Speaker 1: Yes, it did, and it's not going to have that

1372
01:08:25,360 --> 01:08:30,040
Speaker 1: because that's on purpose. It's with intention. One, I chose

1373
01:08:30,080 --> 01:08:32,080
Speaker 1: taking more of a moderator role. He ain't trying to

1374
01:08:32,120 --> 01:08:34,679
Speaker 1: go all the way deep like he was with me. Two,

1375
01:08:35,320 --> 01:08:37,519
Speaker 1: they didn't want the show to go deep, partly why

1376
01:08:37,560 --> 01:08:39,000
Speaker 1: I wasn't on it going forward.

1377
01:08:39,600 --> 01:08:41,800
Speaker 2: They didn't want that. That's not what they needed.

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01:08:41,800 --> 01:08:43,240
Speaker 1: At the end of the day, at the end of

1379
01:08:43,240 --> 01:08:47,240
Speaker 1: the cycle of all the sports and news, I thought

1380
01:08:47,240 --> 01:08:49,720
Speaker 1: it was smart to go deep because everybody else don't

1381
01:08:49,760 --> 01:08:52,880
Speaker 1: win in terms of telling you what happened in the game.

1382
01:08:53,200 --> 01:08:55,720
Speaker 1: Everybody else didn't cover the surface and who won and

1383
01:08:55,760 --> 01:08:56,400
Speaker 1: why they won.

1384
01:08:56,720 --> 01:08:58,000
Speaker 2: Everybody else got theatric.

1385
01:08:58,120 --> 01:08:59,519
Speaker 1: I was like ain' at the end of the day,

1386
01:08:59,760 --> 01:09:02,040
Speaker 1: I want to know something deeper, show me something different.

1387
01:09:02,080 --> 01:09:03,040
Speaker 2: But they didn't want that.

1388
01:09:03,120 --> 01:09:07,559
Speaker 1: And I am not gonna be anywhere upsetting your economic model.

1389
01:09:07,640 --> 01:09:09,519
Speaker 1: You want to know why, because I ain't looking out

1390
01:09:09,520 --> 01:09:11,160
Speaker 1: for you. I'm looking out for me. If I mess

1391
01:09:11,240 --> 01:09:14,120
Speaker 1: up your economic model, I ain't gonna make money. And

1392
01:09:14,200 --> 01:09:16,920
Speaker 1: I just took to I just took the dare of

1393
01:09:17,040 --> 01:09:18,400
Speaker 1: making more money on my own.

1394
01:09:19,360 --> 01:09:20,080
Speaker 2: Simple as that.

1395
01:09:20,280 --> 01:09:24,200
Speaker 1: So far, so good, all right, I'm not insulted by

1396
01:09:24,240 --> 01:09:27,439
Speaker 1: reality I'm insulted when you make shit up. I'm using

1397
01:09:27,439 --> 01:09:30,200
Speaker 1: that forever wise man, this mister Wiley, Yeah, I said

1398
01:09:30,240 --> 01:09:33,200
Speaker 1: that quote. That's a wily ism. I'm not insulted by reality.

1399
01:09:33,240 --> 01:09:36,200
Speaker 1: If you call me anything I am, You're not going

1400
01:09:36,240 --> 01:09:39,400
Speaker 1: to insult me. Only thing that would make me feel

1401
01:09:39,439 --> 01:09:40,920
Speaker 1: weird is if you make something up.

1402
01:09:40,920 --> 01:09:43,880
Speaker 2: Like why they make that up? What they talking about?

1403
01:09:43,960 --> 01:09:46,599
Speaker 1: But then even that is gonna fly by me, even

1404
01:09:46,640 --> 01:09:47,840
Speaker 1: though I'm gonna take notice of it.

1405
01:09:47,880 --> 01:09:52,160
Speaker 2: But when you say, Marcella's you big? Am? I supposed

1406
01:09:52,200 --> 01:09:55,360
Speaker 2: to respond? What you mean? Say anything I am?

1407
01:09:55,560 --> 01:09:55,880
Speaker 4: I am?

1408
01:09:56,479 --> 01:09:58,640
Speaker 1: WHATLCK was spot on. Stephen A isn't going to let

1409
01:09:58,680 --> 01:10:00,799
Speaker 1: this go and we'll see what happens. Love the podcast,

1410
01:10:00,800 --> 01:10:04,080
Speaker 1: Marcel's Wiley, keep the train rolling. I don't know, Steven,

1411
01:10:04,080 --> 01:10:05,160
Speaker 1: they gonna keep responding.

1412
01:10:06,160 --> 01:10:08,480
Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't know. I wouldn't.

1413
01:10:08,880 --> 01:10:12,160
Speaker 1: I wouldn't, but see, shouldn't have been talking for two years,

1414
01:10:12,160 --> 01:10:13,760
Speaker 1: so what I don't know if he is or not.

1415
01:10:14,040 --> 01:10:17,639
Speaker 1: Pat has a big colt following Pat McAfee for years,

1416
01:10:17,680 --> 01:10:21,160
Speaker 1: but when Aaron Rodgers Tuesday's happened, big sports media had

1417
01:10:21,200 --> 01:10:23,400
Speaker 1: to pay attention to. ESPN had to pick up PMS.

1418
01:10:23,439 --> 01:10:27,200
Speaker 1: What Oh pac Man, he said, PMS. I'm like, what,

1419
01:10:27,479 --> 01:10:30,160
Speaker 1: Oh Pat McAfee show, because he was hurting them. Rogers

1420
01:10:30,200 --> 01:10:32,200
Speaker 1: played a big part in that growth. Oh good point,

1421
01:10:32,320 --> 01:10:32,800
Speaker 1: good point.

1422
01:10:33,160 --> 01:10:33,360
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1423
01:10:33,439 --> 01:10:35,480
Speaker 1: I mean, look, let's not act like it was altruistic.

1424
01:10:35,479 --> 01:10:37,280
Speaker 1: Oh my god, we loved Pat McAfee. You want to

1425
01:10:37,320 --> 01:10:39,679
Speaker 1: go sign him for eighty five million? Yeah, that sounds

1426
01:10:39,720 --> 01:10:41,320
Speaker 1: good to me too. Let's go do it.

1427
01:10:41,840 --> 01:10:42,000
Speaker 2: Nah.

1428
01:10:42,080 --> 01:10:44,600
Speaker 1: Obviously they're like, y'all, he taking some he taking some

1429
01:10:44,640 --> 01:10:47,040
Speaker 1: share away from us something. Marcell's I love that you

1430
01:10:47,040 --> 01:10:50,160
Speaker 1: brought up the story regard McAfee paying Aaron Rodgers for appearances.

1431
01:10:50,400 --> 01:10:52,559
Speaker 1: The question you posed on why this wasn't done back

1432
01:10:52,560 --> 01:10:54,280
Speaker 1: in the day is fairly simple in my opinion.

1433
01:10:54,360 --> 01:10:56,040
Speaker 2: Okay, educate me.

1434
01:10:56,280 --> 01:10:58,679
Speaker 1: Today everyone has the ability to be their own network

1435
01:10:58,720 --> 01:11:01,080
Speaker 1: ah and create their own platform. You don't need to

1436
01:11:01,120 --> 01:11:03,240
Speaker 1: go on a network to get exposure. You create your

1437
01:11:03,240 --> 01:11:04,800
Speaker 1: own channel and do your own thing if you have

1438
01:11:04,840 --> 01:11:05,639
Speaker 1: the name recognition.

1439
01:11:05,800 --> 01:11:07,080
Speaker 2: True. So I'm here.

1440
01:11:07,360 --> 01:11:09,639
Speaker 1: Back in the day before social media, you needed those

1441
01:11:09,680 --> 01:11:11,040
Speaker 1: networks to expand your brand.

1442
01:11:11,120 --> 01:11:11,400
Speaker 2: Bang.

1443
01:11:11,760 --> 01:11:14,840
Speaker 1: They provided value to the athlete pre social media boom.

1444
01:11:14,920 --> 01:11:18,400
Speaker 1: But nowadays that old network models arcade. Yeah, just like

1445
01:11:18,439 --> 01:11:21,720
Speaker 1: the Cowboys offensive scheme. Shot, Why you say that? I hope,

1446
01:11:22,000 --> 01:11:24,600
Speaker 1: I hope the scheme is old. Hope tonight against my

1447
01:11:24,680 --> 01:11:26,920
Speaker 1: Chargers is old. Look at me saying my Chargers just

1448
01:11:26,960 --> 01:11:28,360
Speaker 1: because I suck for the Cowboys.

1449
01:11:28,560 --> 01:11:31,080
Speaker 2: Got that Cowboys? Is it ready there? Cowboy Jersey right there?

1450
01:11:31,600 --> 01:11:33,519
Speaker 2: And since I ain't play well for him, I don't

1451
01:11:33,560 --> 01:11:37,400
Speaker 2: claim on the satura Nah, I got love for him.

1452
01:11:37,400 --> 01:11:40,920
Speaker 1: But y'all in Dallas, this is la homie, all right?

1453
01:11:40,960 --> 01:11:43,439
Speaker 1: What Stephen A. Smith is doing his foul? He did

1454
01:11:43,479 --> 01:11:46,479
Speaker 1: Max wrong and deflecting to Windlock is wrong, but nobody's

1455
01:11:46,479 --> 01:11:49,679
Speaker 1: talking about how he's trying to eliminate Skip. Really, Lebatar

1456
01:11:49,800 --> 01:11:52,200
Speaker 1: pointed it out him bringing on Shannon was done for

1457
01:11:52,280 --> 01:11:54,920
Speaker 1: him to get more blacks on his side and further

1458
01:11:55,000 --> 01:11:56,160
Speaker 1: turn people against Skip.

1459
01:11:56,439 --> 01:11:59,920
Speaker 2: I see right through that too, Okay.

1460
01:12:00,000 --> 01:12:02,720
Speaker 1: I can see bringing on Shannon brings on more more

1461
01:12:02,760 --> 01:12:05,160
Speaker 1: blacks because even Shannon knows his power in the black community.

1462
01:12:05,439 --> 01:12:06,360
Speaker 2: Shannon would tell.

1463
01:12:06,240 --> 01:12:08,720
Speaker 1: You I got the community, I got unk, I'm the

1464
01:12:08,800 --> 01:12:09,599
Speaker 1: unk in the community.

1465
01:12:09,680 --> 01:12:09,920
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1466
01:12:10,560 --> 01:12:13,519
Speaker 1: But is that okay? Is it a sea saw? I

1467
01:12:13,560 --> 01:12:15,080
Speaker 1: brought the money in and then bringing in the black

1468
01:12:15,160 --> 01:12:17,040
Speaker 1: what is that gotta do with Skip because he used

1469
01:12:17,040 --> 01:12:18,840
Speaker 1: to be with Skip. So he'supposed to unemployed because he

1470
01:12:18,920 --> 01:12:19,519
Speaker 1: was with Skip.

1471
01:12:21,560 --> 01:12:23,960
Speaker 2: Nah, Like I don't believe in that.

1472
01:12:24,080 --> 01:12:25,880
Speaker 1: Like I don't believe in those kind of loyalties, like

1473
01:12:26,120 --> 01:12:29,080
Speaker 1: your network, let me go not Skip. The network could

1474
01:12:29,080 --> 01:12:32,200
Speaker 1: have over like overrude Skip like na dog or Skip

1475
01:12:32,479 --> 01:12:34,320
Speaker 1: got overruded by the network saying na dog.

1476
01:12:34,360 --> 01:12:36,000
Speaker 2: He's staying, I don't care. Y'all gonna work it out.

1477
01:12:36,280 --> 01:12:38,559
Speaker 1: They can choose that, but they don't over there Fox

1478
01:12:38,600 --> 01:12:41,000
Speaker 1: more so they don't. They'd be like y'all beefing. Y'all,

1479
01:12:41,080 --> 01:12:43,519
Speaker 1: y'all get away from each other, Chris Carter, Nick Right,

1480
01:12:43,560 --> 01:12:45,240
Speaker 1: y'all got issues, y'all get away from each other.

1481
01:12:45,680 --> 01:12:47,360
Speaker 2: Uh this situation.

1482
01:12:49,000 --> 01:12:51,799
Speaker 1: Yeah, So I don't see it as a shot to Skip,

1483
01:12:51,840 --> 01:12:53,960
Speaker 1: even though I hear what you were trying to say.

1484
01:12:53,960 --> 01:12:56,040
Speaker 1: All right, listen, you know we finished every show we

1485
01:12:56,040 --> 01:12:58,680
Speaker 1: finished with a wily is Ooh, I.

1486
01:12:58,600 --> 01:13:01,160
Speaker 2: Got a little coach's voice in there. Yeah.

1487
01:13:01,520 --> 01:13:05,280
Speaker 1: That has brought to you by bet us log in

1488
01:13:05,640 --> 01:13:11,320
Speaker 1: to Wileywins dot com. We've made the world absolute about relativity.

1489
01:13:13,120 --> 01:13:16,240
Speaker 1: We've made the world absolute about relativity.

1490
01:13:16,800 --> 01:13:20,160
Speaker 2: WHOA, This is how we get caught up.

1491
01:13:21,840 --> 01:13:26,320
Speaker 1: We start doing this big gathering of people, y'all them

1492
01:13:26,600 --> 01:13:31,240
Speaker 1: they we make groups larger than they are. We almost

1493
01:13:31,280 --> 01:13:37,599
Speaker 1: talk about things in those absolutes, realizing that that is

1494
01:13:37,640 --> 01:13:42,559
Speaker 1: gonna be your downfall. I hope you understand that. How

1495
01:13:42,560 --> 01:13:44,479
Speaker 1: many times you ever been on social media? You got

1496
01:13:44,439 --> 01:13:46,599
Speaker 1: one hundred comics? How many of them are bad?

1497
01:13:47,520 --> 01:13:47,760
Speaker 2: Ten?

1498
01:13:48,240 --> 01:13:49,640
Speaker 1: Why does it feel like they all are bad when

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01:13:49,680 --> 01:13:51,679
Speaker 1: you see those ten instead of those ninety that are good.

1500
01:13:53,680 --> 01:13:59,759
Speaker 1: It's relative ninety ten, but it feels absolute all bad, worse?

1501
01:14:00,120 --> 01:14:04,080
Speaker 1: How many likes did you get? A thousand likes, one

1502
01:14:04,160 --> 01:14:06,120
Speaker 1: hundred comments? Ten bad?

1503
01:14:06,800 --> 01:14:07,360
Speaker 2: Ten bad?

1504
01:14:07,520 --> 01:14:13,640
Speaker 1: Just ruled ten bad, just overruled a thousand and ninety good.

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Speaker 2: Damn tho.

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01:14:15,680 --> 01:14:20,360
Speaker 1: Some somebody's soldiers right there, those ten beat up one thousand.

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01:14:19,920 --> 01:14:26,280
Speaker 2: And ninety people because we look at things in absolutes. Ah.

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01:14:26,600 --> 01:14:29,479
Speaker 1: So, growing up, I read the Bible, and when I

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01:14:29,520 --> 01:14:32,000
Speaker 1: read the Bible, I'm not trying to be holier than now.

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Speaker 2: And I don't mess with anybody's religion.

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01:14:34,000 --> 01:14:35,640
Speaker 1: Y'all do y'all, But y'all all gonna go to the

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01:14:35,680 --> 01:14:44,120
Speaker 1: same place, whatever that is, the universe, God, Jesus, Mesiah, Jehovah, like,

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Speaker 1: I'm not into that. I'm into the inner power that

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01:14:47,800 --> 01:14:50,120
Speaker 1: is in the universe that we are.

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Speaker 2: Okay.

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01:14:51,800 --> 01:14:58,320
Speaker 1: So I remember reading it though, and realizing how this

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01:14:58,400 --> 01:15:01,600
Speaker 1: world is relative, realizing how you have to look at

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01:15:01,640 --> 01:15:06,200
Speaker 1: all these things, everything from being clothed to unclothed with

1519
01:15:06,280 --> 01:15:09,040
Speaker 1: the tree of life, taking a bite of the apple

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01:15:09,120 --> 01:15:12,920
Speaker 1: and realizing, oh my god, you are naked. Now I realize,

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01:15:13,520 --> 01:15:16,439
Speaker 1: now I can understand what you're going through. I have

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01:15:16,680 --> 01:15:22,000
Speaker 1: a reference. There is a relationship, There is relativity to this.

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01:15:22,280 --> 01:15:25,760
Speaker 2: Before was this absolute a bliss? Right?

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01:15:26,400 --> 01:15:31,120
Speaker 1: You knew nothing till you knew everything? Absolute is a beast.

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01:15:31,520 --> 01:15:39,920
Speaker 1: But this world ain't that. This world is relative. Choices, sides, equilibriums,

1526
01:15:40,040 --> 01:15:48,560
Speaker 1: balancing acts, ups, downs, lefts, rights, God, devil, love, hate,

1527
01:15:48,680 --> 01:15:52,559
Speaker 1: And in this relative world, what gets people caught up is.

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01:15:52,479 --> 01:15:55,680
Speaker 2: When they make it absolute. One of the.

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01:15:57,160 --> 01:16:03,000
Speaker 1: One of the psychosis that occurs when suicide is a state,

1530
01:16:03,960 --> 01:16:07,720
Speaker 1: mental state that you're going through that episodic you think

1531
01:16:07,840 --> 01:16:11,599
Speaker 1: is absolute. You think it's all instead of just now,

1532
01:16:11,720 --> 01:16:13,880
Speaker 1: this episode, just now, this.

1533
01:16:13,800 --> 01:16:19,080
Speaker 2: Moment, now, this time frame deep.

1534
01:16:19,800 --> 01:16:22,080
Speaker 1: So whatever you're going through, good, bad, or ugly, it's

1535
01:16:22,120 --> 01:16:24,679
Speaker 1: kind of like football. You make an amazing play football.

1536
01:16:24,720 --> 01:16:25,879
Speaker 1: Told my kids this is yesterday.

1537
01:16:26,200 --> 01:16:28,160
Speaker 2: Oh you're just going to touch it out, amazing, Yes,

1538
01:16:28,240 --> 01:16:28,760
Speaker 2: give it up.

1539
01:16:28,960 --> 01:16:31,120
Speaker 1: Now, go line up again, and let's do something again,

1540
01:16:31,960 --> 01:16:35,400
Speaker 1: because it ain't gonna remember that, just like when you

1541
01:16:35,479 --> 01:16:38,360
Speaker 1: messed up. Stop crying, Come on, come on, stop crying.

1542
01:16:38,800 --> 01:16:43,960
Speaker 1: Make a play because it's all relative. Next, next, next.

1543
01:16:44,720 --> 01:16:47,400
Speaker 1: Don't get caught up in that torture chamber thinking it's absolute.

1544
01:16:47,479 --> 01:16:49,599
Speaker 1: Don't get caught up in that torture chamber thinking it's all.

1545
01:16:50,040 --> 01:16:53,760
Speaker 2: It's not. We've been past that point. We've been that

1546
01:16:54,000 --> 01:16:54,439
Speaker 2: that point.

1547
01:16:54,840 --> 01:16:58,040
Speaker 1: So in this world, man, make sure you understand the

1548
01:16:58,040 --> 01:17:02,639
Speaker 1: balance in that that's necessary. And give yourself proper credit

1549
01:17:02,760 --> 01:17:05,840
Speaker 1: and value in all things you do.

1550
01:17:06,360 --> 01:17:09,240
Speaker 2: Did you take a breath? Just now? In hell x

1551
01:17:09,280 --> 01:17:10,880
Speaker 2: hel You're valuable, You're still hear.

1552
01:17:11,439 --> 01:17:14,960
Speaker 1: You don't need things on your wall, you don't need accolades,

1553
01:17:15,280 --> 01:17:18,519
Speaker 1: you don't need things written about you to tell you

1554
01:17:18,600 --> 01:17:22,800
Speaker 1: how valuable you are. Just being is your value you

1555
01:17:22,880 --> 01:17:26,160
Speaker 1: build from there. You're valuable enough just how you are,

1556
01:17:26,520 --> 01:17:29,120
Speaker 1: just who you are. So I want people to understand that,

1557
01:17:29,160 --> 01:17:31,320
Speaker 1: because I see a lot of people get sabotaged by

1558
01:17:31,320 --> 01:17:34,040
Speaker 1: thinking in absolute form and.

1559
01:17:34,000 --> 01:17:35,280
Speaker 2: Then reckon who they are.

1560
01:17:35,920 --> 01:17:40,280
Speaker 1: Absolutely so we made this world absolute about relativity.

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01:17:40,600 --> 01:17:43,280
Speaker 2: Don't you make that mistake as well? All right, y'all,

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01:17:43,479 --> 01:17:44,200
Speaker 2: that'll do it.

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