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Speaker 1: Comedy Saved Me.

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Speaker 2: Unless you're really full of yourself, you never lose that

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Speaker 2: young fan, you know. I mean, there's still in me

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Speaker 2: whenever those things were happening with Steve or Tim or

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Speaker 3: Carr will be.

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Speaker 2: So much of me is still that kid from Haveral,

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Speaker 2: Massachusetts who's pinching himself.

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Speaker 4: Welcome back to Comedy Saved Me, the podcast where we

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Speaker 4: explore how laughter lifts us up, helps us heal, and

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Speaker 4: connects us in the toughest of times. I'm your host,

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Speaker 4: Lynn Hoffman, and today's guest is someone who's quick wit

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Speaker 4: and contagious charm has made him the beloved fixture in

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Speaker 4: American television for decades. You know him as the iconic

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Speaker 4: host of America's Funniest Home Videos, the ever gracious master

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Speaker 4: of ceremonies on Dancing with the Stars, and the man

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Speaker 4: who kept the laughs rolling on the Hollywood Squares. But

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Speaker 4: behind the bright lights and the live broadcast, Tom Bergeron

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Speaker 4: is also a lifelong comedy fan who understands the power

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Speaker 4: of humor and how it gets us through those bumps

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Speaker 4: and bruises in life. In this episode, Tom shared stories

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Speaker 4: from his early days as a radio DJ, obsessed with

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Speaker 4: Comedy Records, the lessons he's learned from working with legendary comedians,

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Speaker 4: and how laughter has helped him stay grounded even when

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Speaker 4: the cameras are rolling and the chaos is just a

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Speaker 4: heartbeat away. Oh boy, do I know that?

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Speaker 1: Well.

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Speaker 4: Whether you're a longtime fan or just discovering Tom Bergeron's work,

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Speaker 4: where have you been? You will love his insights on

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Speaker 4: why comedy matters, how it brings us together, and why

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Speaker 4: sometimes the best way to get through.

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Speaker 1: Life is to laugh at ourselves.

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Speaker 4: So settle in, get ready to smile, and let's dive

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Speaker 4: into a great conversation with the one and only Tom Bergeron.

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Speaker 1: Tom, Welcome to comedy safety.

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Speaker 2: Oh my pleasure, In my pleasure. I feel like the

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Speaker 2: bar has been set high now. That was a great introduction.

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Speaker 2: I want to live up to it.

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Speaker 1: My gosh, you lived up to it ten times over.

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Speaker 1: Are you kidding me?

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Speaker 4: I mean I literally grew up with you in Boston,

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Speaker 4: and you know this is how it went in order

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Speaker 4: and I'm not making this up.

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Speaker 1: It went.

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Speaker 4: I wanted to be share a mixture of share Carol Burnett,

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Speaker 4: pretty much everyone on Saturday Night Live and Tom Bergeron.

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Speaker 2: Oh I'm honored to be. That's a pretty lofty list.

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Speaker 4: Well, you you had this magic about you when you

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Speaker 4: get in front of the camera and you could tell

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Speaker 4: that you weren't reading lines like you were at libbing

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Speaker 4: and you got thrown things live and the way you

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Speaker 4: handled yourself. I mean I started with you with People

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Speaker 4: Are Talking in Boston.

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Speaker 2: And that that show, which was for those who don't know,

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Speaker 2: it was on the then Westinghouse stations. Each Westinghouse station

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Speaker 2: had a People Are Talking Show. It was in most

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Speaker 2: Winfrey was the host. I don't know whatever happened to her,

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Speaker 2: but anyway here she's probably doing okay. But yeah, So

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Speaker 2: that was like cramming for an exam every night because

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Speaker 2: we ran the gamut on that show, from serious topics

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Speaker 2: celebrity interviews and offbeat topics. So every night it was

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Speaker 2: you know, with no opportunity for a second take, which

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Speaker 4: I think that's the best. I mean, live to tape

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Speaker 2: But you know, being on live TV in front of

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Speaker 2: it was just I meditated in my dressing room between

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Speaker 4: And we will in a few minutes when I get

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Speaker 3: Okay, fair enough.

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Speaker 4: I personally think that's one of the reasons why you

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Speaker 4: I always wanted to know what drew you to com

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I think what drew me to it. I

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Speaker 2: think it was just in the DNA. Interestingly, nobody else

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Speaker 1: I thought you were going to say, No, one in

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Speaker 2: Some they weren't in on the joke, but some were

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Speaker 2: very funny. No, my mom had a fairly acerbic sense

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Speaker 2: I've gotten more mileage out of that thing.

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Speaker 3: I think. Oh, look, I even.

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Speaker 1: Have Do you have a picture of yourself doing it?

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Speaker 3: No, I have a bobblehead with my eyebrow.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's one of the America's funniest videos, bobbleheads with

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Speaker 2: back to your original question. There'll be a lot of

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Speaker 2: this going off on tangents. But when I did an

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Speaker 2: not going to find bad behavior on Sesame Street. Oscar

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Speaker 2: suggested to friends, you could turn this every time my

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Speaker 1: That's hilarious. Yeah, like a board game.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, like Johnny Gotcha, you know, and the eyebrow would

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Speaker 2: But so comedy has always been sort of a natural

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Speaker 3: You remember his name, Yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 2: He was. He was a little less funny than me, thankfully.

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Speaker 4: I read that at seventeen you interviewed Larry Fine and

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Speaker 4: Mo Howard of the Three Stooges, which is incredible to

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Speaker 2: Lynn, you were one of those rare women who likes

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Speaker 2: who loves the Three Stooges.

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Speaker 1: I love that.

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Speaker 4: I showed it to my nephew who's thirteen, and he

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Speaker 1: Episode, like they're doing something crazy, right. It was so funny.

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Speaker 4: I think it's just the physical comedy of us all slapstick.

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Speaker 4: But how did that shape your comedic sensibility?

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Speaker 2: That was that came about even before I got my

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Speaker 3: It was, as I remember it, it was a Saturday night.

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Speaker 2: So I actually called information in LA and asked for

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Speaker 2: Television campus in Woodland Hills. I can give you that number.

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Speaker 2: And I did, and Larry came on. Now, Larry had

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Speaker 3: Was still him.

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Speaker 2: You could still hear, and about I don't know about

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Speaker 2: like one, I don't know where in my research at

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Speaker 2: sixteen or seventeen, I got this, but I said, would

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Speaker 2: you say what you do was slapstick or farce? And

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Speaker 2: he went, you absolutely absolutely right. What we did was farce.

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Speaker 2: of my botox, but at sixteen seventeen, yeah, But in

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Speaker 2: the I think the next eighteen months until they each

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Speaker 2: Sometimes I would just call to say hi. There was

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Speaker 2: one time we were doing a fundraiser for charities in Haveral,

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Speaker 2: and I thought I should call Mo. He can address

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Speaker 2: about it. He gave a little address to the audience.

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Speaker 2: but we had very different approaches. Yes, I can do

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Speaker 2: those kind of character voices, yeah, that kind of thing,

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Speaker 2: but that was Bob's thing. And the first show I did,

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Speaker 2: I think I tried to do those and it just

445
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Speaker 2: it wasn't It felt like, you know, like fingernails on

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Speaker 2: a chalkboard.

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Speaker 1: Like you were trying too hard.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, trying too hard at trying to do what somebody

449
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Speaker 2: else did naturally. It just didn't naturally flow for me.

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Speaker 2: So we decided that a dryer, sort of the verbal

451
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Speaker 2: equivalent of an arched eyebrow would would be the way

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Speaker 2: I would do it, and a lot of and so

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Speaker 2: there was a process where I had to do a

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Speaker 2: lot of rewriting because they were still writing for Bob

455
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Speaker 2: and Daisy and John who had followed Bob immediately. But

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Speaker 2: we'd sit in a room before taping, and Todd Thick,

457
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Speaker 2: who was the head writer, would turn to the other

458
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Speaker 2: writers and go, Okay, this is where Tom kills your babies.

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Speaker 2: And it was just a matter of getting you know,

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Speaker 2: us all, kind of getting acclimated with what I thought

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Speaker 2: was funny and what you know, and trying to also

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Speaker 2: service what they thought was funny.

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Speaker 3: Based on the show.

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Speaker 2: It was quite successful without me being on it, So

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Speaker 2: it took a little while to get that marriage.

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Speaker 3: If you will, but ye, but then it was just

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Speaker 3: kind of gold.

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Speaker 1: Every Friday nights it was.

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Speaker 2: Harder to do than than Dancing with the Stars, because

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Speaker 2: Dancing with the Stars being live, you know when you're starting,

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Speaker 2: you know, and you know, and it's all aff being

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Speaker 2: as you're saying about live to tape. That's how we

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Speaker 2: did that one, and Vin was wonderfully gracious in making

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Speaker 2: it as close to live as we possibly could. I

475
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Speaker 2: remember one time there was a little lighting problem, but

476
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Speaker 2: a joke had really scored and the audience said loved it,

477
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Speaker 2: and Vin goes, oh, can we do that again? We

478
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Speaker 2: just had a light flicker in the back, and so

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Speaker 2: I went into the control room.

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Speaker 3: I said, no, you can't get that back again. Naturally,

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Speaker 3: I said.

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Speaker 2: What's more important the audience reaction or a little flickering

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Speaker 2: light in the back? He goes, all right, you're right, fine,

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Speaker 2: So yeah, so we would we would keep There was

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Speaker 2: like one time, and this speaks to my love of

486
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Speaker 2: silent film comedy and where the mime thing came.

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Speaker 3: There was a woman in the audience.

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Speaker 2: Of AFE and she just thought everything I said was hilarious.

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Speaker 2: She was probably stone, but I didn't pursue it. She

490
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Speaker 2: just thought everything was funny. So I sat down next

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Speaker 2: to her and I said to Vin. I said, Vin,

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Speaker 2: I'm going to try something. I'm not actually going to

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Speaker 2: introduce the videos. You just go to them whenever you

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Speaker 2: think it's the right time. And I would sit next

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Speaker 2: to her and she'd start laughing, and then if she

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Speaker 2: started to slow down, I'd put my head on her

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Speaker 2: shoulder and she'd start laughing again.

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Speaker 3: Oh my god.

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Speaker 2: And there were about three or four going to videos

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Speaker 2: coming back still silently, me sitting next to this woman,

501
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Speaker 2: just you know, ugh.

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Speaker 3: But that was that was all in the moment.

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Speaker 2: We hadn't planned that because we just didn't know somebody

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Speaker 2: would think I was that funny.

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Speaker 4: Oh my gosh, Tom, that eyebrown now that you bring

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Speaker 4: it back up again too.

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Speaker 1: But it was physical comedy.

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Speaker 4: You're like a Jim Carrey meets like the world's best

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Speaker 4: television host of any topic, name it. I mean, it

510
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Speaker 4: didn't even have to be America's funny at home videos.

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Speaker 1: Like you said, dancing with this you were.

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Speaker 2: Just so much of yeah, so much of like I

513
00:27:03,160 --> 00:27:08,600
Speaker 2: grew up loving Charlie Chaplin, Buster Keaton, Harold Lloyd Laurel

514
00:27:08,680 --> 00:27:12,399
Speaker 2: and Hardy and you know, there there's so much you

515
00:27:12,440 --> 00:27:15,520
Speaker 2: can do with a look. There'd be times on the

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Speaker 2: dancing show, if the judges were going off on a

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Speaker 2: couple or something and I knew, you know, where my

518
00:27:21,600 --> 00:27:23,960
Speaker 2: camera was and everything, and rather than go on a

519
00:27:24,000 --> 00:27:25,560
Speaker 2: long harangue, all I'd have.

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Speaker 3: To do is go and they cut to you.

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Speaker 2: You know, that says volumes, you know, And my connection

522
00:27:32,119 --> 00:27:35,119
Speaker 2: was always in that lens with the as I said,

523
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Speaker 2: the one person who's watching on the other side, not

524
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Speaker 2: twenty million, but one person.

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Speaker 1: That's it.

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Speaker 3: So it was like a connection with that person, you know.

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Speaker 1: But that's that's a skill.

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Speaker 4: That's really I think that was the hardest thing to learn,

529
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Speaker 4: is like when you're talking, you have to include the

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Speaker 4: people listening or watching, I mean, because that's who you're

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Speaker 4: talking to, really, I mean, you want them to enjoy

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Speaker 4: it as much as and feel like you've really are

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Speaker 4: communicating with them because you want to.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'd have friends come to the show because that

536
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Speaker 2: show had like seven hundred people in the audience and

537
00:28:09,760 --> 00:28:11,679
Speaker 2: you know, it's just a whole production with an orchestra

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Speaker 2: and all that. And during a commercial breakup friend of

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00:28:14,760 --> 00:28:18,560
Speaker 2: mine said, hey, Tom, you know we can't hear you

540
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Speaker 2: what you're saying. I said, well, that's okay, because I'm

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Speaker 2: not talking to you, Yes, because of them.

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Speaker 4: Do you ever notice how many people who go to

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Speaker 4: shows will say that to you and you're like, well,

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Speaker 4: you go to a big show like the Grammys, for example,

545
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Speaker 4: and they should do it at a stadium, and you

546
00:28:34,920 --> 00:28:37,320
Speaker 4: can't hear a thing. You can see everything, but you

547
00:28:37,359 --> 00:28:39,640
Speaker 4: can't hear and you can't even really see anyone on

548
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Speaker 4: stage because there's cameras in front of everyone, right. And

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Speaker 4: I would always try to explain to people that you're

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Speaker 4: there to be a part of the experience.

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Speaker 1: But it's not a show for you. It's a show

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Speaker 1: for the people back home.

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Speaker 4: Watch exactly, exactly, yeah, yeah, crazy crazy. Speaking of hosting,

554
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Speaker 4: you've said that as a host and I quote you

555
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Speaker 4: always imagine speaking to one person through the camera, like

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Speaker 4: you just said, how has that approach helped you connect

557
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Speaker 4: with audiences? And do you do you see a link

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Speaker 4: between that sort of connecting and the intimacy and the

559
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Speaker 4: healing power of comedy, Like, is that the healing part

560
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Speaker 4: of it?

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Speaker 3: I think so.

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Speaker 2: I think I think comedy's most effective when there is

563
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Speaker 2: some acknowledgment of commonality that you know, we laugh most

564
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Speaker 2: at the things that we've kind of thought of ourselves

565
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Speaker 2: or somebody's touched something that we never thought of it

566
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Speaker 2: in that way in our lives. But oh, man, I

567
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Speaker 2: wish I had thought to say that at that time,

568
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Speaker 2: you know. But that, for example, in when I started

569
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Speaker 2: in radio, when I was just out of high school,

570
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Speaker 2: to kind of focus my attention on that one person idea.

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Speaker 2: I had an album like right, like, here's the microphone.

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Speaker 2: I had the album cover there. I don't remember the

573
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Speaker 2: band or it was an attractive woman's face on the

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Speaker 2: album cover and I would talk to her. So I

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Speaker 2: my theory is that for the first couple of years

576
00:30:06,320 --> 00:30:10,000
Speaker 2: of my career, I just sounded horny.

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Speaker 1: Was it like Blondie?

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Speaker 3: It wasn't Blondie. I remember she was a brunette. I

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Speaker 3: remember that.

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Speaker 2: I couldn't tell you who the who the group was

581
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Speaker 2: or why it was only her face. I don't even

582
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Speaker 2: think she was the singer, but it was just it

583
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Speaker 2: was just a face. I thought, Oh, if I've been

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Speaker 2: a look at a face, I'll take this one. And yeah,

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Speaker 2: so I would kind of you know, all right, let's.

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Speaker 3: Check the weather, you know, sultry weather for you. Come

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Speaker 3: on over, I'll.

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Speaker 2: Show you what the precipitation chances or not that kind.

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Speaker 6: We'll be right back with more of the Comedy Saved

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Speaker 6: Me podcast. Welcome back to the Comedy Saved Me Podcast.

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Speaker 4: Oh my gosh, live television is famously unpredictable, as you know.

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Speaker 4: Can you share with us maybe a time when something

593
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Speaker 4: went hilariously off script, you know, whether it was on

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Speaker 4: Dancing with the Stars or any of the other shows

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Speaker 4: that you've been on, and how your sense of humor

596
00:31:17,600 --> 00:31:19,080
Speaker 4: sort of helped you handle it.

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Speaker 2: Well, there was one time, and it's not my proudest moment,

598
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Speaker 2: and it was an example of take an extra moment,

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Speaker 2: just take an extra beat, because things don't move as

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Speaker 2: fast as you think they are in your brain. Right, Yes,

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Speaker 2: So on the dancing show, Simone Biles, the incredible Olympic gymnast,

602
00:31:44,280 --> 00:31:47,600
Speaker 2: and her partner had just finished a dance and they

603
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Speaker 2: came over and Simone is to my immediate left and

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Speaker 2: her partner off beyond there, and the judges of being

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00:31:54,760 --> 00:31:57,960
Speaker 2: two of the judges were being kind of kind of

606
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Speaker 2: really kind of hard on her, I thought, and then

607
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Speaker 2: Carrie Anne and Aba, the third judge, was being much

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Speaker 2: more complimentary. Now you know what an ifb is the

609
00:32:06,960 --> 00:32:09,120
Speaker 2: folks watching or listening might not, but it's a little

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00:32:09,160 --> 00:32:12,680
Speaker 2: earpiece so that you can hear from the director and

611
00:32:12,760 --> 00:32:15,520
Speaker 2: producers in the control room if something, if they need

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Speaker 2: to move something along or something. And the showrunner at

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Speaker 2: the time, Ashley, whom I absolutely adored, said something in

614
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Speaker 2: my ear when the other judges had finished and Carrie

615
00:32:30,760 --> 00:32:34,800
Speaker 2: Anne was being complimentary and I wasn't looking at Simone.

616
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Speaker 2: I was looking at Carrie Anne, and Ashley went, gee,

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Speaker 2: Carrie Anne is being really complimentary, but Simone's not even smiling.

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Speaker 2: So instead of saying it like my way, which would be,

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Speaker 2: I noticed, Simone, you had some different reactions to the judges.

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Speaker 3: How did you feel about that?

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Speaker 2: That's where I would For some reason, ashley last phrase

622
00:33:01,400 --> 00:33:05,000
Speaker 2: stuck in my head and I said, so, Simone, I

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Speaker 2: noticed you weren't smiling when Carrie and what woman wants

624
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Speaker 2: to hear a guy say hey, babe, come on, smile,

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Speaker 2: you know, just smiling, you know exactly, yeah, exactly, And

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Speaker 2: the moment it came out of her mouth, I went,

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Speaker 2: oh shit, oh damn it. And she was brilliant, without

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Speaker 2: missing a beat, she said, smiling doesn't win gold medals.

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Speaker 2: The audience went nuts, and I knew I had, you know,

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Speaker 2: a major omelet just dripping down my faith. So just

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Speaker 2: to show the humor part though, Simone had a shirt

632
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Speaker 2: made called and it said smiling doesn't win gold medals.

633
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Speaker 2: And a few days later the two of us posed,

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Speaker 2: She's wearing the shirt looking at me, and I'm looking

635
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Speaker 2: very sheepish. I'm you know, yeah, but it was kind

636
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Speaker 2: of making lemonade out of lemmons. But it was one

637
00:34:01,600 --> 00:34:05,760
Speaker 2: of those moments that also it was you know, just

638
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Speaker 2: make sure before you open your mouth that your brain

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Speaker 2: has engaged at least a little so that you put

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Speaker 2: it in your own words, because you know, I'm a.

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Speaker 3: Dad of two daughters.

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Speaker 2: I know how much fun it is when a guy yells, hey, baby, smile.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, but you know, also you're doing a

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Speaker 4: live television show. She was gracious, so everyone was very

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Speaker 4: kind to one another, which you know when you're with professionals.

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Speaker 2: But that was sort of like one of those moments

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00:34:39,719 --> 00:34:44,040
Speaker 2: where you realize, okay, it is a high wire and

648
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Speaker 2: I'm doing okay on a percentage basis, but every so

649
00:34:47,480 --> 00:34:50,399
Speaker 2: often shit's going to go down. You know, you're going

650
00:34:50,440 --> 00:34:53,719
Speaker 2: to say something the wrong way. Or it'll be perceived

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Speaker 2: the wrong way. You know, just minor stuff, but it.

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Speaker 4: Also goes to show you that, you know, what you

653
00:34:59,600 --> 00:35:02,280
Speaker 4: said really good advice that I need to take because

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Speaker 4: I tend to fill the dead air. That's the problem

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Speaker 4: of people from radio, is right. You can't have dead air.

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Speaker 4: That's like suicide on air. You know, you have to

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Speaker 4: keep it moving along. But a lot of times you

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Speaker 4: just open mouth and sart foot unintentionally because you're filling

659
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Speaker 4: the dead air.

660
00:35:17,680 --> 00:35:20,160
Speaker 3: I did. I did a mime performance on the radio

661
00:35:20,200 --> 00:35:21,200
Speaker 3: show in New Hampshire.

662
00:35:21,360 --> 00:35:22,440
Speaker 1: What and uh?

663
00:35:23,000 --> 00:35:25,680
Speaker 3: And I would it would just it was like subtle

664
00:35:25,719 --> 00:35:26,360
Speaker 3: sound effects.

665
00:35:26,480 --> 00:35:30,000
Speaker 2: I would say, all right, now I'm going to walk

666
00:35:30,360 --> 00:35:32,800
Speaker 2: against the wind and.

667
00:35:32,680 --> 00:35:35,520
Speaker 3: You and I would go silent and you just hear.

668
00:35:39,520 --> 00:35:40,239
Speaker 1: Tom.

669
00:35:40,600 --> 00:35:42,479
Speaker 4: I was just gonna say, you did a mime show

670
00:35:42,520 --> 00:35:45,160
Speaker 4: on the radio, how does that work?

671
00:35:45,920 --> 00:35:46,160
Speaker 3: Well?

672
00:35:46,200 --> 00:35:48,280
Speaker 2: You know, back in the old days of radio, Edgar

673
00:35:48,320 --> 00:35:52,560
Speaker 2: Bergen was a famous ventriloquist on the radio. And then

674
00:35:52,719 --> 00:35:55,239
Speaker 2: when he got to tell it, I was Candas Bergen's dad,

675
00:35:56,040 --> 00:35:58,879
Speaker 2: and yeah, when he got to TV you could see

676
00:35:58,880 --> 00:35:59,680
Speaker 2: his lips.

677
00:35:59,400 --> 00:36:01,439
Speaker 3: Move and you really it wasn't really very good.

678
00:36:02,120 --> 00:36:03,320
Speaker 1: It was better on the radio.

679
00:36:03,640 --> 00:36:05,200
Speaker 3: Better on the radio Funny.

680
00:36:05,320 --> 00:36:13,440
Speaker 4: Yeah, you've worked with legendary comedians and personalities in Hollywood Squares. Also,

681
00:36:13,520 --> 00:36:15,719
Speaker 4: the last time I interviewed you was when you and

682
00:36:15,719 --> 00:36:17,879
Speaker 4: Whoope were on the Hollywood Squares and you just won

683
00:36:17,920 --> 00:36:18,680
Speaker 4: your first Emmy.

684
00:36:18,800 --> 00:36:19,200
Speaker 5: I want to.

685
00:36:19,200 --> 00:36:23,040
Speaker 4: Say, what's the best piece of comedic advice? And I

686
00:36:23,040 --> 00:36:25,000
Speaker 4: think I may have even asked you this on the

687
00:36:25,000 --> 00:36:28,560
Speaker 4: stage there, or you know, wisdom that you've picked up

688
00:36:28,600 --> 00:36:30,440
Speaker 4: from your guests or any of your co hosts, or

689
00:36:30,480 --> 00:36:32,960
Speaker 4: even things that were handed down to you through sage

690
00:36:32,960 --> 00:36:35,160
Speaker 4: advice from people in your travels.

691
00:36:35,440 --> 00:36:39,640
Speaker 3: Well, you know, I don't. This was Hollywood Squares.

692
00:36:39,719 --> 00:36:43,200
Speaker 2: It triggered that the first couple days we were shooting,

693
00:36:43,239 --> 00:36:44,799
Speaker 2: because we would do if you remember, we would do

694
00:36:44,840 --> 00:36:46,000
Speaker 2: five in a day, right.

695
00:36:45,960 --> 00:36:47,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, Saturday Sunday.

696
00:36:47,000 --> 00:36:49,120
Speaker 2: You do ten shows Saturday Sunday, right with the five

697
00:36:49,160 --> 00:36:53,440
Speaker 2: shows each day. And when I think the first couple

698
00:36:53,520 --> 00:36:57,520
Speaker 2: days we started back in nineteen ninety eight, I just

699
00:36:57,760 --> 00:36:59,480
Speaker 2: I was like a kid in a candy store because

700
00:36:59,480 --> 00:37:04,399
Speaker 2: I've got nine celebrities, you know, many of whom I'm

701
00:37:04,480 --> 00:37:07,760
Speaker 2: a fan of, like Carol you mentioned Carol Burnett, Carroll

702
00:37:07,880 --> 00:37:12,080
Speaker 2: was there, Harvey Korman and Tim you know, of course

703
00:37:12,120 --> 00:37:17,920
Speaker 2: Whoopee and Gilbert Gottfried and all these wonderful talents, and

704
00:37:17,960 --> 00:37:21,480
Speaker 2: I was having a ball and during the meal break,

705
00:37:22,640 --> 00:37:25,840
Speaker 2: Michael King, because the King brothers produced at Michael and

706
00:37:25,960 --> 00:37:26,520
Speaker 2: Roger King.

707
00:37:26,560 --> 00:37:28,120
Speaker 3: They're both gone now, I believe, but.

708
00:37:28,760 --> 00:37:31,719
Speaker 2: King World, Yeah, King World, Yah, King World, which then

709
00:37:32,000 --> 00:37:36,160
Speaker 2: CBS bot and all that. But Michael came up to

710
00:37:36,200 --> 00:37:39,399
Speaker 2: me and said, Tom, we're loving what you're doing. It's

711
00:37:39,440 --> 00:37:42,840
Speaker 2: going great. But I just I just need to remind

712
00:37:42,880 --> 00:37:47,239
Speaker 2: you it's not a talk show. It's the contestants want

713
00:37:47,239 --> 00:37:51,239
Speaker 2: to win stuff. And I realized I was getting so in.

714
00:37:51,480 --> 00:37:53,960
Speaker 2: I was enjoying the back and forth so much with

715
00:37:54,400 --> 00:37:59,400
Speaker 2: the stars that I was kind of neglecting the contestants,

716
00:37:59,840 --> 00:38:03,160
Speaker 2: and so once I kind of made that little shift

717
00:38:03,160 --> 00:38:06,720
Speaker 2: and made it about them and taking care of them.

718
00:38:07,080 --> 00:38:09,279
Speaker 2: In the same way on the dancing show years later,

719
00:38:09,320 --> 00:38:12,000
Speaker 2: I would make my focus taking care of the couples.

720
00:38:12,880 --> 00:38:14,759
Speaker 2: So if the judges were too hard and the dance

721
00:38:14,800 --> 00:38:17,360
Speaker 2: didn't go well, you know, I try to lighten the

722
00:38:17,400 --> 00:38:20,440
Speaker 2: burden a bit. But once I got into that mindset,

723
00:38:20,480 --> 00:38:23,879
Speaker 2: oh right, I want to help them win stuff, then

724
00:38:23,920 --> 00:38:28,360
Speaker 2: I kept my potterer quicker and the tempo changed. But

725
00:38:29,560 --> 00:38:32,960
Speaker 2: and that was a case of you know, especially a

726
00:38:33,000 --> 00:38:36,360
Speaker 2: show like that, the comedy's best when it's moving fast.

727
00:38:36,719 --> 00:38:40,120
Speaker 2: You know, it's moving a little quicker. Yeah, because it

728
00:38:40,239 --> 00:38:43,399
Speaker 2: was interesting. When Robin Williams was on Hollywood Squares with us,

729
00:38:44,239 --> 00:38:47,800
Speaker 2: he didn't get called on a lot, which I thought

730
00:38:47,880 --> 00:38:51,160
Speaker 2: was how can you not want to call on Robin Williams?

731
00:38:51,600 --> 00:38:54,600
Speaker 2: And the producer said to me after, because they want

732
00:38:54,640 --> 00:38:56,640
Speaker 2: to win things and they think Robin's going to go

733
00:38:56,680 --> 00:38:57,520
Speaker 2: off on a tangent.

734
00:38:58,360 --> 00:38:59,520
Speaker 3: But that's the best part.

735
00:38:59,640 --> 00:39:02,200
Speaker 2: It's well, it's the best part for us, but not

736
00:39:02,360 --> 00:39:04,880
Speaker 2: if you want to go home with a new car.

737
00:39:07,200 --> 00:39:08,280
Speaker 3: If you want to go home.

738
00:39:08,120 --> 00:39:10,920
Speaker 2: With a new car, you don't want to see Nanu

739
00:39:11,040 --> 00:39:12,839
Speaker 2: for five minutes, you know, I'm telling you.

740
00:39:12,880 --> 00:39:14,160
Speaker 3: But yeah, it was.

741
00:39:14,320 --> 00:39:16,560
Speaker 2: It was just fascinating to get into that kind of

742
00:39:16,680 --> 00:39:21,439
Speaker 2: rhythm of but and again another tangential story but when

743
00:39:22,200 --> 00:39:24,720
Speaker 2: But it speaks to having a sense of humor, certainly

744
00:39:24,719 --> 00:39:27,840
Speaker 2: in this business. Whoopy and I were at Nappy, the

745
00:39:27,920 --> 00:39:32,840
Speaker 2: convention for syndicated television shows, just prior to Hollywood Squares

746
00:39:33,000 --> 00:39:37,200
Speaker 2: launching in ninety eight, and I had never experienced anything

747
00:39:37,400 --> 00:39:38,280
Speaker 2: at that level.

748
00:39:39,440 --> 00:39:41,399
Speaker 3: You know, just a.

749
00:39:41,400 --> 00:39:45,480
Speaker 2: Massive photographers and reporters and flash bulbs going off, and

750
00:39:45,640 --> 00:39:50,160
Speaker 2: Whoopy was always so so protective of me really, So

751
00:39:50,320 --> 00:39:57,480
Speaker 2: at one point Robert Townsend, the actor, producer director who's

752
00:39:57,520 --> 00:40:01,720
Speaker 2: a friend of Whoopy's, came over to say hi. And

753
00:40:02,480 --> 00:40:05,879
Speaker 2: I knew that they'd want pictures of the two of them,

754
00:40:06,120 --> 00:40:09,839
Speaker 2: Whoopy and Robert Townsend together, So I start to get up,

755
00:40:10,560 --> 00:40:12,520
Speaker 2: and Whoopee grabs my arm and she goes, where are

756
00:40:12,520 --> 00:40:15,319
Speaker 2: you going? And I said, well, they want pictures of you,

757
00:40:15,480 --> 00:40:18,839
Speaker 2: and sit your ass down, so you know, so I'm

758
00:40:18,880 --> 00:40:23,000
Speaker 2: sitting there and the photographer, probably no more than five

759
00:40:23,080 --> 00:40:26,960
Speaker 2: feet away from me to my right, turns to the

760
00:40:27,040 --> 00:40:31,400
Speaker 2: other photographers, and to be honest, I love this the

761
00:40:31,400 --> 00:40:32,200
Speaker 2: moment it happened.

762
00:40:32,200 --> 00:40:35,799
Speaker 3: He went, don't worry, I can cut out the white guy.

763
00:40:36,000 --> 00:40:41,920
Speaker 1: Oh no, oh my.

764
00:40:41,800 --> 00:40:45,360
Speaker 2: God, And I thought, and for me, for my sense

765
00:40:45,360 --> 00:40:49,160
Speaker 2: of humor, I thought that was hilarious because it is.

766
00:40:49,880 --> 00:40:51,480
Speaker 1: Would be saying did she hear it too?

767
00:40:51,680 --> 00:40:54,680
Speaker 2: I think she was talking to Robert at that point

768
00:40:54,719 --> 00:40:56,560
Speaker 2: they were catching up, so I didn't.

769
00:40:56,640 --> 00:40:57,920
Speaker 3: She didn't really respond to it.

770
00:40:58,360 --> 00:41:02,120
Speaker 2: And it's only because I saw him turn and I

771
00:41:02,200 --> 00:41:04,960
Speaker 2: heard him say it, and he wasn't really, I mean,

772
00:41:05,040 --> 00:41:07,040
Speaker 2: he wasn't being careful about volume.

773
00:41:07,080 --> 00:41:08,799
Speaker 3: I don't worry. I can cut out the white guy.

774
00:41:08,920 --> 00:41:10,680
Speaker 3: Oh my, but I love stuff.

775
00:41:11,480 --> 00:41:14,360
Speaker 2: One of my favorite headlines I spoke at my niece's

776
00:41:14,400 --> 00:41:17,120
Speaker 2: senior chapel when she was graduating from high school, and

777
00:41:17,200 --> 00:41:20,960
Speaker 2: the local paper in my hometown covered it, and the

778
00:41:21,000 --> 00:41:23,480
Speaker 2: headline was based on what one of the students had

779
00:41:23,480 --> 00:41:26,520
Speaker 2: said to the reporter. The headline was that I have

780
00:41:26,600 --> 00:41:31,160
Speaker 2: this in the book too. Bergeron not as boring as expected.

781
00:41:34,880 --> 00:41:35,560
Speaker 1: I love that.

782
00:41:36,239 --> 00:41:39,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, not as boring as expected.

783
00:41:40,280 --> 00:41:43,000
Speaker 4: Wow, I have two things that just popped into my

784
00:41:43,000 --> 00:41:44,840
Speaker 4: head and I'm not like we just talked about it.

785
00:41:44,840 --> 00:41:46,520
Speaker 4: I don't want to make this show isn't about me,

786
00:41:47,160 --> 00:41:48,799
Speaker 4: but but we're so connected.

787
00:41:48,880 --> 00:41:50,360
Speaker 3: I have to share this with you.

788
00:41:50,560 --> 00:41:50,719
Speaker 2: Yes.

789
00:41:51,200 --> 00:41:55,160
Speaker 4: First of all, my first experience on a red carpet

790
00:41:55,760 --> 00:41:59,880
Speaker 4: was with Whoopy Goldberg and I had a crazy experience

791
00:42:01,040 --> 00:42:02,960
Speaker 4: with Tony Danza went out before me.

792
00:42:03,080 --> 00:42:04,480
Speaker 1: I didn't know what to do. I don't know how

793
00:42:04,520 --> 00:42:05,640
Speaker 1: to stand or anything.

794
00:42:05,719 --> 00:42:08,120
Speaker 4: And I went over to They wanted me to take

795
00:42:08,120 --> 00:42:10,279
Speaker 4: a picture with him, and he was like, no, I

796
00:42:10,320 --> 00:42:12,160
Speaker 4: can't take a picture with you, and he ran off

797
00:42:12,480 --> 00:42:16,080
Speaker 4: and I was just standing there for all the cameras snapping,

798
00:42:16,080 --> 00:42:18,440
Speaker 4: and I didn't I didn't know how to hold my

799
00:42:18,520 --> 00:42:19,799
Speaker 4: I didn't know what to do, and I just sort

800
00:42:19,840 --> 00:42:23,200
Speaker 4: of walked off, like shocked. And I remember WHOOPI was like,

801
00:42:23,280 --> 00:42:25,320
Speaker 4: what happened? I said, I don't know, And I found

802
00:42:25,320 --> 00:42:27,560
Speaker 4: out later. I guess he and his wife were having

803
00:42:27,600 --> 00:42:29,160
Speaker 4: a thing and he didn't want to be pictured with

804
00:42:29,200 --> 00:42:33,160
Speaker 4: other women. Oh okay, So I had no idea, but

805
00:42:33,200 --> 00:42:36,440
Speaker 4: it was crazy. That was one weird thing. And well,

806
00:42:36,480 --> 00:42:41,640
Speaker 4: you're so gracious because you wanted to move and let

807
00:42:41,640 --> 00:42:45,560
Speaker 4: Whoopee have that spotlight. And I want to explain another

808
00:42:45,640 --> 00:42:48,799
Speaker 4: gracious side of Tom bergeron. So this technically is not

809
00:42:48,880 --> 00:42:50,799
Speaker 4: about me, but it is, but it's really about you.

810
00:42:51,840 --> 00:42:53,880
Speaker 4: When I came to interview you with the Hollywood Squares,

811
00:42:53,880 --> 00:42:56,120
Speaker 4: it was nineteen ninety nine and the radio station in

812
00:42:56,160 --> 00:42:59,120
Speaker 4: Boston that I worked for was having a huge two

813
00:42:59,160 --> 00:43:03,040
Speaker 4: day concert every year was called Mixfest, and that was

814
00:43:03,080 --> 00:43:05,680
Speaker 4: the year they sent I was working for BZ Channel

815
00:43:05,640 --> 00:43:07,840
Speaker 4: four as filling in for Joyce Cool Heywick, oh okay,

816
00:43:07,880 --> 00:43:11,880
Speaker 4: and they sent me to cover you, my idol in television.

817
00:43:11,920 --> 00:43:13,440
Speaker 4: So I was like, hell, yeah, I'm going to go

818
00:43:13,480 --> 00:43:15,799
Speaker 4: out there and do that. So I brought my two

819
00:43:15,880 --> 00:43:20,120
Speaker 4: best friends with me and I went out to interview you,

820
00:43:20,200 --> 00:43:22,120
Speaker 4: and I also had to play the show.

821
00:43:22,160 --> 00:43:24,080
Speaker 1: So now I know why I lost, because you were

822
00:43:24,080 --> 00:43:26,800
Speaker 1: more interested in the comedians and helping me win.

823
00:43:28,400 --> 00:43:29,160
Speaker 3: Most of the time.

824
00:43:29,200 --> 00:43:29,839
Speaker 1: I was like this.

825
00:43:30,760 --> 00:43:33,080
Speaker 4: I went home and my boyfriend at the time, he said,

826
00:43:33,080 --> 00:43:34,880
Speaker 4: you know, I saw your neck a lot because I

827
00:43:35,360 --> 00:43:39,319
Speaker 4: kept losing, Like oh, but then I had to interview you,

828
00:43:39,400 --> 00:43:40,880
Speaker 4: and then I had to do the whole piece for

829
00:43:41,239 --> 00:43:44,360
Speaker 4: Channel four. And you allowed me to on the Carol

830
00:43:44,360 --> 00:43:47,799
Speaker 4: Burnett stage of course, go up into the squares, but

831
00:43:47,840 --> 00:43:52,279
Speaker 4: you didn't release the audience or anything. So I had

832
00:43:52,280 --> 00:43:55,120
Speaker 4: to do the whole thing in between you taping your shows.

833
00:43:56,000 --> 00:44:01,200
Speaker 4: And You're just you were so gracious when I was there.

834
00:44:01,960 --> 00:44:04,440
Speaker 4: You were just wonderful and gracious and kind, and you

835
00:44:04,480 --> 00:44:06,759
Speaker 4: gave me some amazing advice because all I wanted to

836
00:44:06,800 --> 00:44:09,680
Speaker 4: do was show you my demo tape for hosting television

837
00:44:09,680 --> 00:44:13,279
Speaker 4: and get your advice, and you look and you did.

838
00:44:13,400 --> 00:44:15,279
Speaker 4: After the show, you watched it and you gave me

839
00:44:16,120 --> 00:44:19,839
Speaker 4: advice on something that I will never forget. And it

840
00:44:19,880 --> 00:44:21,880
Speaker 4: was like, this is the best piece of advice I

841
00:44:21,880 --> 00:44:26,080
Speaker 4: could give you is Lynn, when you go off to

842
00:44:26,160 --> 00:44:29,240
Speaker 4: work and do what you do, just remember you always

843
00:44:29,239 --> 00:44:30,880
Speaker 4: want to have the fuck you fund.

844
00:44:31,080 --> 00:44:33,200
Speaker 3: Yes, yes, yes, And.

845
00:44:33,160 --> 00:44:37,640
Speaker 4: That's I've told I've passed that story along to so

846
00:44:37,760 --> 00:44:41,319
Speaker 4: many people. You know, you you seek to do and

847
00:44:41,480 --> 00:44:43,759
Speaker 4: be successful, but then what do you do when you

848
00:44:43,800 --> 00:44:47,759
Speaker 4: are successful at something? You have to manage yourself and

849
00:44:47,800 --> 00:44:49,480
Speaker 4: take and protect it so that if you get a

850
00:44:49,560 --> 00:44:51,600
Speaker 4: job and you hate the guy that you're producing the show,

851
00:44:51,600 --> 00:44:52,520
Speaker 4: you could say fuck you.

852
00:44:52,400 --> 00:44:54,320
Speaker 1: And walk because you've got You've saved your money.

853
00:44:54,800 --> 00:44:56,799
Speaker 4: That's right, and you were smart with it, and I

854
00:44:56,840 --> 00:45:00,359
Speaker 4: thought that was such amazing advice, So thank you for that.

855
00:45:00,920 --> 00:45:01,800
Speaker 3: You're very welcome.

856
00:45:01,880 --> 00:45:07,200
Speaker 2: I remember actually Willard Scott and I having a conversation

857
00:45:07,280 --> 00:45:11,080
Speaker 2: about that backstage. He was on people are talking with

858
00:45:11,160 --> 00:45:13,000
Speaker 2: me and he was for those of you who don't

859
00:45:13,040 --> 00:45:15,160
Speaker 2: know the name, he was the weather man on the

860
00:45:15,160 --> 00:45:18,279
Speaker 2: Today Show for years, and he had this thing where

861
00:45:18,280 --> 00:45:23,719
Speaker 2: he would honor people at their hundredth birthday with Smuckers

862
00:45:23,760 --> 00:45:28,480
Speaker 2: as the sponsor Smuckers with a name like Smuckers, it damn.

863
00:45:28,320 --> 00:45:29,239
Speaker 3: Will better be good.

864
00:45:29,480 --> 00:45:33,240
Speaker 5: Yeah, Oh my god, I was such geeks.

865
00:45:33,480 --> 00:45:34,520
Speaker 3: Okay, I no seriously.

866
00:45:34,840 --> 00:45:37,680
Speaker 2: But Willard and I were talking about that off camera

867
00:45:37,760 --> 00:45:40,160
Speaker 2: the the you know, I don't know how we got

868
00:45:40,200 --> 00:45:41,719
Speaker 2: on it, but he was going, oh, yeah, you gotta

869
00:45:41,719 --> 00:45:46,160
Speaker 2: have a fuck you fun. Yeah, because inevitably it happens

870
00:45:46,239 --> 00:45:51,080
Speaker 2: in any career in entertainment. You know, if you're writing

871
00:45:51,160 --> 00:45:54,640
Speaker 2: code for computer whatever, you're going to run up against

872
00:45:54,719 --> 00:45:58,560
Speaker 2: people that you're going to have to look in the

873
00:45:58,600 --> 00:46:01,120
Speaker 2: mirror and go, Okay, do I just keep owning this

874
00:46:01,280 --> 00:46:04,959
Speaker 2: every day? This misery is not in my stomach that's

875
00:46:05,000 --> 00:46:09,920
Speaker 2: growing into a potential tumor, or looking at my i've

876
00:46:09,960 --> 00:46:13,320
Speaker 2: got some money to float myself for six months or whatever,

877
00:46:13,480 --> 00:46:16,880
Speaker 2: my little fuck you fun. That's when you go fuck you.

878
00:46:17,440 --> 00:46:20,640
Speaker 4: No, you know, I haven't been able to do that

879
00:46:20,719 --> 00:46:22,640
Speaker 4: yet though, by the way, Tom, I haven't been able.

880
00:46:22,640 --> 00:46:24,560
Speaker 4: I haven't been able to say that to anyone because

881
00:46:24,600 --> 00:46:27,120
Speaker 4: I've been fortunate to love all my jobs that I've had.

882
00:46:27,200 --> 00:46:29,840
Speaker 2: Well, that's the goal is not you know, it's like anything.

883
00:46:29,880 --> 00:46:35,080
Speaker 2: It's like I'm sure every every law enforcement person who

884
00:46:35,160 --> 00:46:37,279
Speaker 2: has a gun in their holster would prefer not to

885
00:46:37,360 --> 00:46:44,320
Speaker 2: have to use it, but they know it's there, and yeah, exactly. Yeah,

886
00:46:44,360 --> 00:46:46,520
Speaker 2: So I think there have only been a couple of

887
00:46:46,560 --> 00:46:52,440
Speaker 2: occasions where I had to use it, and not always

888
00:46:52,440 --> 00:46:56,080
Speaker 2: in sort of an adversarial way, sometimes like when people

889
00:46:56,160 --> 00:47:01,719
Speaker 2: are talking. Was canceled and they asked me to do

890
00:47:01,880 --> 00:47:05,160
Speaker 2: interviews during the new news hour. And we had two

891
00:47:05,239 --> 00:47:09,040
Speaker 2: young kids. The girls were both really young at that point,

892
00:47:10,440 --> 00:47:13,320
Speaker 2: and suddenly I went from making this kind of money

893
00:47:13,360 --> 00:47:16,560
Speaker 2: to making that kind of money. And they offered me

894
00:47:17,200 --> 00:47:21,200
Speaker 2: the morning anchor job on the morning news at Channel four.

895
00:47:22,840 --> 00:47:27,640
Speaker 2: And I remember we were visiting Lois's parents' parents in

896
00:47:27,680 --> 00:47:31,560
Speaker 2: Florida with the girls, who were probably I don't know,

897
00:47:31,640 --> 00:47:35,719
Speaker 2: maybe three and one at that point, and I turned

898
00:47:35,760 --> 00:47:38,600
Speaker 2: it down, and I remember my late mother in law,

899
00:47:38,640 --> 00:47:43,480
Speaker 2: whom I adored, saying, really, you're not gonna I said,

900
00:47:43,520 --> 00:47:47,040
Speaker 2: you know what, Dot, We've put money aside for just

901
00:47:47,160 --> 00:47:51,880
Speaker 2: this kind of situation. I don't have the kind of

902
00:47:52,080 --> 00:47:55,880
Speaker 2: work I want. What's being offered could take care of

903
00:47:55,920 --> 00:47:59,120
Speaker 2: the money problem, but it wouldn't take care of the

904
00:47:59,239 --> 00:47:59,920
Speaker 2: me problem.

905
00:48:00,680 --> 00:48:01,520
Speaker 1: To sleep at night.

906
00:48:01,760 --> 00:48:03,520
Speaker 2: You get to feel a little bit that because I'm

907
00:48:03,560 --> 00:48:05,799
Speaker 2: used to getting up for early morning radio shows and

908
00:48:05,920 --> 00:48:08,799
Speaker 2: TV shows and would go on to do a show

909
00:48:08,800 --> 00:48:11,000
Speaker 2: on FX. It was on in the morning and fill

910
00:48:11,040 --> 00:48:13,719
Speaker 2: in on Good Morning America and the early show and

911
00:48:13,760 --> 00:48:16,200
Speaker 2: get up at three thirty and four. That wasn't the issue.

912
00:48:16,719 --> 00:48:19,160
Speaker 2: It was do I want to become a news anchor?

913
00:48:19,800 --> 00:48:23,000
Speaker 3: Yes, that's because it's and I knew it was wrong

914
00:48:23,040 --> 00:48:24,440
Speaker 3: for me. I just knew it was.

915
00:48:25,080 --> 00:48:30,279
Speaker 2: It would be a creative death, you know, And so

916
00:48:30,400 --> 00:48:33,080
Speaker 2: that was that was sort of a genteel fuck you.

917
00:48:33,560 --> 00:48:36,800
Speaker 3: I wasn't well, you didn't have to. There was no anger.

918
00:48:37,160 --> 00:48:40,360
Speaker 2: I was gracious and appreciative that they made the offer,

919
00:48:41,000 --> 00:48:43,120
Speaker 2: but I just knew it wasn't the right thing. And

920
00:48:43,520 --> 00:48:47,640
Speaker 2: we had enough of a buttress that I could kind

921
00:48:47,640 --> 00:48:50,319
Speaker 2: of go out and you know, ended up filling in

922
00:48:50,600 --> 00:48:53,920
Speaker 2: for a week on another FM station in town, and

923
00:48:54,000 --> 00:48:56,799
Speaker 2: that led to me being hired by Magic to do

924
00:48:56,840 --> 00:49:01,279
Speaker 2: the morning show for about nine months before I ended

925
00:49:01,360 --> 00:49:03,360
Speaker 2: up going to New York for FX.

926
00:49:04,040 --> 00:49:05,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, before you're like, I have to get out of

927
00:49:05,640 --> 00:49:07,880
Speaker 4: this town because this girl named Lynn is stalking me.

928
00:49:08,600 --> 00:49:12,360
Speaker 3: No, no, seriously, I'd be a reason to stick around.

929
00:49:12,160 --> 00:49:15,880
Speaker 4: Frank, No, seriously, I really I remember one time. I

930
00:49:15,920 --> 00:49:17,719
Speaker 4: shall probably tell you after the show, but I did.

931
00:49:17,760 --> 00:49:19,680
Speaker 4: I did wait in the lobby of a hotel to

932
00:49:20,760 --> 00:49:23,719
Speaker 4: ask you questions about hosting. I was that person I

933
00:49:24,280 --> 00:49:27,319
Speaker 4: went to like clubs where the DJs were playing that

934
00:49:27,360 --> 00:49:28,759
Speaker 4: I wasn't even old enough to go in, and I

935
00:49:28,760 --> 00:49:31,640
Speaker 4: would sneak in and in between something, I would be like,

936
00:49:32,080 --> 00:49:33,080
Speaker 4: how did you get this job?

937
00:49:33,120 --> 00:49:34,360
Speaker 1: Where do I need to go to school?

938
00:49:35,200 --> 00:49:37,879
Speaker 3: That's no different than me calling Larry and Moe.

939
00:49:38,040 --> 00:49:38,480
Speaker 1: That's true.

940
00:49:38,640 --> 00:49:40,680
Speaker 3: It's the same thing. It's the same thing.

941
00:49:40,760 --> 00:49:44,200
Speaker 2: It's like, who's gonna Who's going to advocate for me

942
00:49:44,280 --> 00:49:48,600
Speaker 2: if I don't and nobody, nobody exactly, So you know,

943
00:49:48,680 --> 00:49:50,520
Speaker 2: we have to be our best advocate.

944
00:49:50,719 --> 00:49:51,640
Speaker 3: That's true.

945
00:49:51,200 --> 00:49:54,680
Speaker 2: And like you were saying, what's the worst it gonna happen?

946
00:49:54,760 --> 00:49:58,440
Speaker 2: You know, somebody says, no, I or Tony Danzer runs away.

947
00:49:58,480 --> 00:50:00,680
Speaker 2: There are worse things that can happen. Tony Dams are

948
00:50:00,760 --> 00:50:02,080
Speaker 2: running away from Yes.

949
00:50:02,360 --> 00:50:04,239
Speaker 4: I mean as much as I was embarrassed with egg

950
00:50:04,320 --> 00:50:07,120
Speaker 4: on my face, like you I you know you.

951
00:50:06,600 --> 00:50:08,960
Speaker 3: Well right like this, we got him back for you,

952
00:50:09,800 --> 00:50:10,319
Speaker 3: Oh you did.

953
00:50:10,480 --> 00:50:13,400
Speaker 2: He was scheduled to appear on the morning show that

954
00:50:13,440 --> 00:50:17,440
Speaker 2: I co hosted on FX called Breakfast Time, right and

955
00:50:17,560 --> 00:50:20,160
Speaker 2: we find and that was a live show. We find

956
00:50:20,160 --> 00:50:22,360
Speaker 2: out that morning and we have a good chunk of

957
00:50:22,400 --> 00:50:27,600
Speaker 2: the show format designated for Tony. We got a call,

958
00:50:27,680 --> 00:50:31,920
Speaker 2: he's not coming, what he won't be there? He cancels how.

959
00:50:31,920 --> 00:50:33,040
Speaker 1: Much time before the taping?

960
00:50:33,560 --> 00:50:36,440
Speaker 2: Well, it's live. It was like, you know, fifteen minutes,

961
00:50:36,480 --> 00:50:40,200
Speaker 2: twenty minutes. We get a call. So we had a

962
00:50:40,239 --> 00:50:43,479
Speaker 2: couple of sisters on Joan and Lydia WiLAN who did

963
00:50:43,920 --> 00:50:49,319
Speaker 2: herbal and home health cares to cures and things. So,

964
00:50:49,719 --> 00:50:53,080
Speaker 2: being the kind of show that it was where we

965
00:50:53,840 --> 00:50:59,320
Speaker 2: wouldn't take shit like that lightly, we hired an ambulette,

966
00:51:00,239 --> 00:51:04,600
Speaker 2: an ambulet, a small ambulance, put Joan and Lydia and

967
00:51:04,680 --> 00:51:09,279
Speaker 2: a cameraman in the ambulet drove, had them drive to

968
00:51:09,280 --> 00:51:13,720
Speaker 2: Tony's hotel and they found him working out in the gym.

969
00:51:14,040 --> 00:51:14,360
Speaker 3: No.

970
00:51:16,360 --> 00:51:20,919
Speaker 2: And so just a little payback for Tony, thank you.

971
00:51:21,800 --> 00:51:25,600
Speaker 2: Joan and Lydia confront Tony with the cameraman. We're from

972
00:51:25,680 --> 00:51:29,080
Speaker 2: Breakfast Time on FX and you canceled and we find

973
00:51:29,120 --> 00:51:33,440
Speaker 2: you here in the gym, and he's like, oh shit,

974
00:51:34,320 --> 00:51:37,360
Speaker 2: he's saying, well, to be honest, I had the cocktail flu.

975
00:51:37,880 --> 00:51:38,920
Speaker 1: Oh he was hungover.

976
00:51:39,320 --> 00:51:42,719
Speaker 3: He was hungover. Oh that's funny, and we and we ran.

977
00:51:42,960 --> 00:51:46,200
Speaker 2: They come running back with the video, which he he

978
00:51:46,560 --> 00:51:49,880
Speaker 2: was cool with us running to his credit, But we

979
00:51:50,040 --> 00:51:52,799
Speaker 2: completely outed Tony Danza on the show. But that was

980
00:51:52,840 --> 00:51:57,400
Speaker 2: the way that show worked. Everything became a potential for material.

981
00:51:57,640 --> 00:52:00,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, But see this. That was the other

982
00:52:00,600 --> 00:52:02,720
Speaker 4: thing I wanted to tell you. When I was interviewed

983
00:52:02,719 --> 00:52:05,839
Speaker 4: you at Hollywood Squares, I had to send that JumboTron

984
00:52:05,880 --> 00:52:08,160
Speaker 4: thing back. Sorry, getting back to that story, which I

985
00:52:08,200 --> 00:52:11,520
Speaker 4: forgot because we have so many side notes. And I said, Tom,

986
00:52:11,560 --> 00:52:13,400
Speaker 4: it's seven o'clock in the morning. We're at the w

987
00:52:13,560 --> 00:52:17,239
Speaker 4: Hotel in Westwood. I had to interview you, Gilbert Godfried

988
00:52:17,840 --> 00:52:21,319
Speaker 4: and one other lovely person who I oh, gosh, yeah,

989
00:52:21,360 --> 00:52:25,839
Speaker 4: And I said, Tom, I know you're from Boston. You

990
00:52:25,880 --> 00:52:27,600
Speaker 4: know can you will you help me out? I got

991
00:52:27,640 --> 00:52:29,680
Speaker 4: to do a video to send back for the JumboTron

992
00:52:29,719 --> 00:52:34,040
Speaker 4: for Mixfest. Sorry, now I'm connecting this story originally, Thank you?

993
00:52:33,600 --> 00:52:37,000
Speaker 4: And you said why, yes, I have an idea, And

994
00:52:37,040 --> 00:52:39,240
Speaker 4: I said what, And you said, let's grab the camera

995
00:52:39,280 --> 00:52:41,360
Speaker 4: crew and let's grab Gilbert.

996
00:52:41,400 --> 00:52:42,520
Speaker 3: Gilbert, what are you doing?

997
00:52:42,560 --> 00:52:42,920
Speaker 1: Come over?

998
00:52:43,040 --> 00:52:44,680
Speaker 4: And I had my friends with me and it was

999
00:52:44,760 --> 00:52:47,600
Speaker 4: you and me and Gilbert Gottfried at seven thirty in

1000
00:52:47,680 --> 00:52:50,719
Speaker 4: the morning at the w with a full camera crew

1001
00:52:51,400 --> 00:52:53,960
Speaker 4: and we went down to the pool after they struck

1002
00:52:54,000 --> 00:52:56,920
Speaker 4: the set and you and I'm like, what are we

1003
00:52:56,920 --> 00:52:57,239
Speaker 4: going to do?

1004
00:52:57,239 --> 00:52:58,320
Speaker 1: And you said, let's improvise.

1005
00:52:58,800 --> 00:53:01,440
Speaker 4: And remember you were giving me a like a shoulder massage,

1006
00:53:01,480 --> 00:53:04,480
Speaker 4: like yes, Lynn, would you like some coffee? And I

1007
00:53:04,520 --> 00:53:06,520
Speaker 4: was on vacation with Gilbert and I had a mic

1008
00:53:06,600 --> 00:53:10,040
Speaker 4: on and He's like, it was the most incredible time.

1009
00:53:10,080 --> 00:53:14,000
Speaker 4: So again, I can't tell you how important it is

1010
00:53:14,080 --> 00:53:17,840
Speaker 4: to go for things and try things and not to

1011
00:53:17,880 --> 00:53:18,680
Speaker 4: be afraid of things.

1012
00:53:18,680 --> 00:53:21,920
Speaker 2: But also exactly, yeah, exactly do you still have that?

1013
00:53:22,000 --> 00:53:23,520
Speaker 3: I would love to see that if you do.

1014
00:53:23,640 --> 00:53:25,520
Speaker 4: That was actually one of my friend had one of

1015
00:53:25,520 --> 00:53:28,600
Speaker 4: the earliest digital cameras at that time, because this was

1016
00:53:28,680 --> 00:53:30,799
Speaker 4: ninety nine, you know, the turn of the century as

1017
00:53:30,840 --> 00:53:34,480
Speaker 4: old folks went through. So but yeah, I was in

1018
00:53:34,480 --> 00:53:36,520
Speaker 4: my demo tape for quite a while. I went home

1019
00:53:36,520 --> 00:53:38,480
Speaker 4: and I was like, we're adding this right now.

1020
00:53:38,360 --> 00:53:40,319
Speaker 1: To my demo tape.

1021
00:53:40,719 --> 00:53:43,799
Speaker 3: Oh, I'd love to see that again. Gilbert was such

1022
00:53:43,800 --> 00:53:45,840
Speaker 3: a sweetheart. He was loved him.

1023
00:53:46,200 --> 00:53:50,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, he because he at that time I was we

1024
00:53:50,920 --> 00:53:54,600
Speaker 2: would stay at what was then the what was it

1025
00:53:55,520 --> 00:53:59,360
Speaker 2: became the Intercontinental Hotel in Century City, but the Parkaya

1026
00:53:59,520 --> 00:54:01,839
Speaker 2: it was the part Archaiat, and so all of us

1027
00:54:01,840 --> 00:54:04,440
Speaker 2: from the East Coast would be put up at the

1028
00:54:04,480 --> 00:54:08,799
Speaker 2: Park Kayat for the weekends that we'd shoot, and Gilbert

1029
00:54:08,840 --> 00:54:11,200
Speaker 2: was always there. And like, I'd get back to my

1030
00:54:11,440 --> 00:54:14,520
Speaker 2: hotel room and we had agreed to meet for drinks

1031
00:54:14,560 --> 00:54:17,520
Speaker 2: or dinner or whatever, and the phone rings in my

1032
00:54:17,960 --> 00:54:19,560
Speaker 2: room and I answer it.

1033
00:54:20,120 --> 00:54:25,600
Speaker 3: Hello, Hey, Tom, it's Gilbert. Who it's Gilbert?

1034
00:54:26,360 --> 00:54:29,879
Speaker 2: Because that voice, you know, he'd put it, it's sort

1035
00:54:29,920 --> 00:54:32,480
Speaker 2: of like Bruno on the Dancing Show, that's his personality,

1036
00:54:32,480 --> 00:54:33,440
Speaker 2: but he amps it up.

1037
00:54:33,640 --> 00:54:36,239
Speaker 3: Yes, yes, well Gilbert was like that too.

1038
00:54:36,280 --> 00:54:39,760
Speaker 2: Gilbert was really just sort of almost a quiet soul

1039
00:54:39,840 --> 00:54:41,760
Speaker 2: with a cerbic sense of humor.

1040
00:54:42,120 --> 00:54:45,719
Speaker 3: But that voice, when he turned the voice on, it

1041
00:54:45,760 --> 00:54:46,440
Speaker 3: was amazing.

1042
00:54:46,560 --> 00:54:48,560
Speaker 1: You know it was you kind of looked like him too,

1043
00:54:48,600 --> 00:54:49,200
Speaker 1: with that face.

1044
00:54:50,040 --> 00:54:53,879
Speaker 3: You got it like you're trying to pass a stone. Yeah, yes,

1045
00:54:54,360 --> 00:54:55,919
Speaker 3: Oh that's gonna hurt.

1046
00:54:56,080 --> 00:54:58,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, thank you for that.

1047
00:54:58,960 --> 00:55:02,440
Speaker 1: That was one of my i'd say, probably highlights of

1048
00:55:02,920 --> 00:55:03,440
Speaker 1: my life.

1049
00:55:04,239 --> 00:55:06,879
Speaker 2: But isn't it fun to do stuff like that, to say, Okay,

1050
00:55:07,000 --> 00:55:08,040
Speaker 2: let's let's make something.

1051
00:55:08,120 --> 00:55:12,400
Speaker 4: Let's yes, no one believing me. You made him do that.

1052
00:55:12,800 --> 00:55:15,560
Speaker 4: It was all his ideas. Tom Tom is the one

1053
00:55:16,160 --> 00:55:18,200
Speaker 4: who's gonna say no to him. The camera crews like, uh,

1054
00:55:18,560 --> 00:55:20,040
Speaker 4: can I just go home and go to bed at

1055
00:55:20,080 --> 00:55:22,040
Speaker 4: seven o'clock in the morning, you know, and you had

1056
00:55:22,040 --> 00:55:24,120
Speaker 4: to tape like five shows later that day.

1057
00:55:24,520 --> 00:55:25,400
Speaker 1: I had to come to this.

1058
00:55:25,640 --> 00:55:28,560
Speaker 4: Oh my gosh, Well, I don't want to take up

1059
00:55:28,800 --> 00:55:30,759
Speaker 4: much more of your time, although I secretly do. I

1060
00:55:30,760 --> 00:55:32,640
Speaker 4: could talk to you for hours and maybe you'll come

1061
00:55:32,640 --> 00:55:34,440
Speaker 4: and we'll have a part deal. I would love to,

1062
00:55:34,600 --> 00:55:38,200
Speaker 4: yeah here, but I would love to know if, if,

1063
00:55:38,800 --> 00:55:44,920
Speaker 4: if you could host any show, real or imagined.

1064
00:55:45,840 --> 00:55:48,080
Speaker 1: With anyone from today or past.

1065
00:55:48,600 --> 00:55:49,800
Speaker 3: Oh, that's such a good.

1066
00:55:50,120 --> 00:55:52,759
Speaker 1: That would use comedy to help people. What would that

1067
00:55:52,800 --> 00:55:53,200
Speaker 1: look like?

1068
00:55:53,960 --> 00:56:00,120
Speaker 2: It would be me interviewing Steve Allen, Jack Parr, and

1069
00:56:00,200 --> 00:56:01,040
Speaker 2: Johnny Carson.

1070
00:56:02,320 --> 00:56:04,400
Speaker 3: That sounds fabulous, and it would be.

1071
00:56:05,400 --> 00:56:10,399
Speaker 2: All about the genesis of the Tonight Show and their

1072
00:56:10,440 --> 00:56:18,360
Speaker 2: own particular styles, three very different comedic personalities. Steve Allen

1073
00:56:18,520 --> 00:56:21,320
Speaker 2: was is sort of more analogous to Letterman. I think

1074
00:56:22,680 --> 00:56:25,719
Speaker 2: Parr was sort of his own breed. You never knew

1075
00:56:25,800 --> 00:56:28,360
Speaker 2: where he was, which how he was going to be

1076
00:56:28,440 --> 00:56:31,239
Speaker 2: on any given night. He walked off the show at

1077
00:56:31,239 --> 00:56:34,960
Speaker 2: one point because NBC censored a joke and he absolutely

1078
00:56:35,040 --> 00:56:36,480
Speaker 2: he had a fuck.

1079
00:56:36,280 --> 00:56:40,000
Speaker 3: You find that he wished and they got him back,

1080
00:56:40,160 --> 00:56:40,960
Speaker 3: you know, finally.

1081
00:56:41,000 --> 00:56:44,479
Speaker 2: But and then Carson, who was so influenced by Jack

1082
00:56:44,560 --> 00:56:47,920
Speaker 2: Benny and Oliver Hardy, and you know, a lot of

1083
00:56:48,000 --> 00:56:53,319
Speaker 2: Carson's slow takes are really homages to the people that

1084
00:56:53,400 --> 00:56:56,480
Speaker 2: he grew up loving. So to be able to you know,

1085
00:56:56,560 --> 00:57:00,520
Speaker 2: those three people. Steve I actually interviewed in Boss, so

1086
00:57:01,280 --> 00:57:04,839
Speaker 2: he was wonderful. And Carson I never met, but I

1087
00:57:04,920 --> 00:57:07,680
Speaker 2: was friends with Carl Reiner, who was friends with Johnny

1088
00:57:08,239 --> 00:57:11,400
Speaker 2: and I also worked with Ed McMahon on the Muscular Distript.

1089
00:57:11,440 --> 00:57:13,439
Speaker 2: He telethon and would pick his brain all the time

1090
00:57:13,480 --> 00:57:16,960
Speaker 2: about Carson. But to be able to sit like one

1091
00:57:17,000 --> 00:57:21,200
Speaker 2: of my favorite lunch times at Hollywood Squares, and you're right,

1092
00:57:21,240 --> 00:57:22,880
Speaker 2: we could just keep going for another hour.

1093
00:57:23,040 --> 00:57:26,280
Speaker 1: Oh, I have so much more. I'm going to run

1094
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Speaker 1: out of batteries on my iPad.

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Speaker 2: There were four of us sitting talking together having lunch.

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Speaker 2: It was me, Carol Burnett, Harvey Korman, and Tim Conway,

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Speaker 2: just the four of us.

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Speaker 1: I wanted to marry Tim Conway and Harvey Korman. By

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Speaker 1: the way, when I was kid.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, well them, Yeah, I get it. And I

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Speaker 2: said to Carol, I said, wasn't there half a season, Harvey?

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Speaker 2: Right after you left the show? Dick Van Dyke came

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Speaker 2: on for like half a season. And Carol said, yeah,

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Speaker 2: you know, we're friends. We did a show on Broadway

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Speaker 2: years ago and it just it just didn't work. It

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Speaker 2: just didn't work. And Harvey goes, you needed a jew.

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Speaker 3: That's it. Secret sauce, secret sauce.

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Speaker 2: T yeah, and the other Another quick story, Tim Conway

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Speaker 2: and his granddaughter. I'm getting ready to do Dancing with

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Speaker 2: the Stars Live show. Knock on my dressing room door.

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Speaker 2: It's Tim and his granddaughter and he's brought her to

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Speaker 2: the show and we chat and catch up a little bit,

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00:58:28,760 --> 00:58:34,600
Speaker 2: and he's sitting in an aisle seat right where I walked,

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Speaker 2: Like during a commercial. I'd go up and just confer

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Speaker 2: with the producers and everybody and make sure we're all

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Speaker 2: on the same page, and then I'd get there. All right, Tom,

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Speaker 2: we're twenty seconds away. Get back to my mark, get

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Speaker 2: Ready Live TV. But all I wanted to do was

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Speaker 2: make Tim Conway laugh, right, so I get the word

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Speaker 2: all right, twenty seconds and you know his old man

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00:58:56,480 --> 00:58:58,360
Speaker 2: walk where he would do that kind of thing right,

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00:58:59,080 --> 00:59:01,640
Speaker 2: the feet barely move, but his arms are going. So

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Speaker 2: I started doing that old man walk right by Tim

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Speaker 2: while the stage manager's freaking out that we're about to

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Speaker 2: go live, and like now ten seconds and Tim breaks

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Speaker 2: up laughing, and I went, good, I'm good.

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Speaker 3: Now good.

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Speaker 4: You can retire. If you made Tim Conway left forget it?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, done, that was it.

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Speaker 1: Wow?

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Speaker 4: Oh you got to work with such amazing legends. And

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00:59:23,640 --> 00:59:26,919
Speaker 4: you know, time is, you know, things are so different now,

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Speaker 4: and I wish the people today could have seen our

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Speaker 4: world of television and comedy of the past.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, because I got one more all right, one more.

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Speaker 1: Story, all right, I had eight percent left. I just

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Speaker 1: want to let you know. So this goes off.

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Speaker 3: It's like Sherlock Holmes the seven percent solution.

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Speaker 2: So I'm out a lunch with Carl Reiner and his

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Speaker 2: daughter Annie, and Carl tells me Steve is coming to

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Speaker 2: lunch for a little bit. He's shooting Steve Martin right,

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00:59:54,680 --> 00:59:57,760
Speaker 2: And my goal then is I got to make Steve

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00:59:57,800 --> 01:00:01,280
Speaker 2: Martin laugh just once. So Steve sits next to me.

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Speaker 2: We're all getting together Annie, who's a lovely poet and

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01:00:05,880 --> 01:00:08,160
Speaker 2: therapist and all this. But she goes off on this

1146
01:00:08,520 --> 01:00:12,000
Speaker 2: monologue talking and I think she's just trying to impress Steve.

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01:00:12,080 --> 01:00:18,600
Speaker 2: She's talking about Picasso and Nietzsche and Einstein and dropping

1148
01:00:18,640 --> 01:00:21,480
Speaker 2: all these names, this labyrinth of a monologue, and she

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Speaker 2: finally takes a breath and I said, and how do.

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Speaker 3: They know Kevin Bacon.

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Speaker 1: Six degrees?

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Speaker 3: And Steve broke up laughing and went, I'm good. I'm out.

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Speaker 5: Steve Martin too, Yeah, wow, yeah, yeah wow.

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Speaker 1: Well do you know Carol Burnett? Because she is literally

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Speaker 1: the reason for a living for me. I'm just absolutely good.

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Speaker 4: I think I might have to call her, you know,

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Speaker 4: because that's how it works, right, You just pick up

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Speaker 4: the phone.

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Speaker 2: Just call her up and tell her I told you to. Okay, because,

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Speaker 2: as you know, we shot the show the same stage

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Speaker 2: they did the Carol Burnett Show.

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Speaker 1: Oh that didn't go over me.

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Speaker 2: Yeah right, So during one of the tapings on air,

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Speaker 2: I said, so, Carol, you like what we've done with

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Speaker 2: the place, and she went, no.

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Speaker 1: And where's the Bob Mackie drapes?

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Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, exactly right.

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Speaker 2: But to be able to be, and I don't think

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Speaker 2: unless you're really full of yourself, you never lose that

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Speaker 2: young fan, you know. I mean, there's still in me

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Speaker 2: whenever those things were happening with Steve or Tim or

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Speaker 2: you know, Carr will be It's so much of me

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01:01:35,480 --> 01:01:39,120
Speaker 2: is still that kid from Haveral, Massachusetts who's pinching himself.

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Speaker 2: You know that I get to play in this playground

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Speaker 2: with these people whom I admire so much, And that's

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Speaker 2: that's the real apart from you know, any other fuck

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Speaker 2: you fun.

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Speaker 3: That's that's a pretty sizable one too.

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Speaker 1: It is.

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Speaker 4: And then you get to get paid for having that

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01:01:57,040 --> 01:01:59,120
Speaker 4: much fun, which always blew me away when I would

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01:01:59,120 --> 01:02:00,919
Speaker 4: get a check every couple of weeks and I'd be like, wait,

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01:02:00,960 --> 01:02:04,000
Speaker 4: oh yeah, I get paid to do this. It's so

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Speaker 4: much fun. I've never even thought about it. But that

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01:02:05,920 --> 01:02:08,120
Speaker 4: was another piece of advice. You know, do what you

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01:02:08,240 --> 01:02:10,919
Speaker 4: love and the money will come. Don't follow the money,

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01:02:11,040 --> 01:02:15,360
Speaker 4: don't chase money, chase happiness and positivity and things that

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Speaker 4: you enjoy. Yeah, yeah, that's why you can't retire. Tom Bergeron.

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Speaker 3: I will refuse to say this. I can't talk about

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Speaker 3: it yet.

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Speaker 2: I might be able to tell you about it, okay,

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01:02:28,160 --> 01:02:32,720
Speaker 2: off my off camera, but I was lured back to

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Speaker 2: hosting something.

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Speaker 3: It's a one.

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Speaker 1: Off okay, how exciting.

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Speaker 3: And it is hilarious.

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Speaker 4: Oh my god, is it gonna mean network streamer?

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Speaker 2: It's going to be on a cable network, okay, And

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Speaker 2: and it'll air in July. And I think when when

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Speaker 2: people hear what it is, they'll go, oh.

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, I've got goosebumps. You still do that

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Speaker 1: to meet Tom?

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Speaker 2: Well, I will when we're when we're done with the podcast, okay,

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Speaker 2: And now if you can listen or watch anymore, I'm

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01:03:12,080 --> 01:03:13,520
Speaker 2: going to let then know what it is.

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Speaker 4: Okay, Well, then I guess we have to end it here,

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Speaker 4: But how about to be continued, because then you'll have

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Speaker 4: to come back and talk about.

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Speaker 1: This new one off show.

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Speaker 3: Yes, yes, and some other things.

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Speaker 1: That we didn't get to that were hilarious, like.

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Speaker 3: All right, so this is only part one, okay, Part one?

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Speaker 1: Tom bergeron thank you for being on Comedy Saved Me.

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Speaker 4: It has been such a thrill and an honor and

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Speaker 4: it just warms my heart to be able to talk

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Speaker 4: to you again.

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Speaker 1: It's going to make me cry.

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Speaker 3: It's great to see you again. It really is