WEBVTT - Jason Tartick: Adopting Teddy & His Insane Backstory

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you're listening to in the Vets Office with doctor

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<v Speaker 1>Josie Horchak. All right, everyone, welcome back to in the

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<v Speaker 1>Vets Office. I am your host, doctor Josie, and today

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<v Speaker 1>we have a very special guest. You may know him

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<v Speaker 1>from the Bachelorette, but there's a lot more to him

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<v Speaker 1>than just reality TV. He's a best selling author, a

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<v Speaker 1>business and financial expert, an entrepreneur, and the host of

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<v Speaker 1>his own hit podcast, Trading Secrets, which I may or

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<v Speaker 1>may not be going on in the very near future.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, and most importantly of all, and the reason

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<v Speaker 1>he's here today is he is a dog dad. So

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<v Speaker 1>the newly adopted Teddy Welcome to in the Vet's Office.

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<v Speaker 1>Jason Tartet, thank you so much for having me. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>happy you're here.

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<v Speaker 2>This is cool. This is It's also like wild how

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<v Speaker 2>many people we know like like this all just came

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<v Speaker 2>together so quickly. It's kind of crazy small world out there.

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<v Speaker 1>I know, Nashville especial.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my gosh, it's like, what's not six people's like

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<v Speaker 2>six s greous separations.

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<v Speaker 1>One totally Yeah, I saw you adopted Teddy, and I

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<v Speaker 1>messaged one of our really good mutual friends and I

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<v Speaker 1>was like, hey, I met this guy, might be interested

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<v Speaker 1>in a concierge. Vette like, let me reach out. So

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<v Speaker 1>I text you and You're like, I might be moving.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't really know. I'm like, no worries. Then I'm like, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>we could pro rate this if you want, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>me being a business girl, and.

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<v Speaker 2>Why you said that? Okay, So let me tell you

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<v Speaker 2>about you talked about red flag these texts right there?

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<v Speaker 2>How many is that that is? Okay?

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<v Speaker 1>Eight hundred and fourteen?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I am the worst at texting. I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>You said you can, ok we can pro rate.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's talk.

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<v Speaker 2>We can talk about I do New York City and

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<v Speaker 2>Nashville like a pro ray from when I'm just here.

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<v Speaker 1>Absolutely my clients close.

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<v Speaker 2>The deal in trading secrets.

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<v Speaker 1>You're going to close the deal. And and so then

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sitting there and you haven't responded yet, and I'm like, oh, man,

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<v Speaker 1>like I'm stressing about season three. I need more guests.

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<v Speaker 1>So then I send you a voice memo. You're busy.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't hear back from you. No big deal. That night,

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<v Speaker 1>I go out like this guy.

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<v Speaker 2>Guys, what of this sucks?

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<v Speaker 1>So then we go out. I go out that evening,

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<v Speaker 1>I meet up with my good girlfriend who's here in

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<v Speaker 1>town with her sister, Kelly Flanagan, and you show up

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<v Speaker 1>at the bar and I'm like, oh my god, this guy.

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<v Speaker 1>I've texted him, I have voice memoed him, and now

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<v Speaker 1>I'm at this bar. I look like I'm stalking this guy.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, hello, I'm doctor, Josie.

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<v Speaker 2>Josie, I was like a doctor. I'm like, wait a

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<v Speaker 2>sec what what like.

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<v Speaker 1>Your the one has been blowing me up. Anyways, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>glad that we met, and I promise I'm not a stalker.

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<v Speaker 2>No, that is it's a I mean again, small world,

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<v Speaker 2>right everyone, by the way, everybody and I have friends, wags, walks,

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<v Speaker 2>my train, everyone in door as like you're the best,

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<v Speaker 2>Like you're the best. My biggest issue, though, is I'm

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<v Speaker 2>in this weird position where I'm trying to figure out

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<v Speaker 2>am I going to move to New York City or

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<v Speaker 2>am I stay in Nashville. And I'm like toying with

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<v Speaker 2>all the ideas, but the idea of the concierge pet

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<v Speaker 2>service makes like perfect sense, especially Teddy goes freaking nuts

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<v Speaker 2>at the that. It's just I gotta feel like everything

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<v Speaker 2>in my life, which is crazy, even bet services. You

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<v Speaker 2>can't figure shit out until you have your foundation, right.

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<v Speaker 2>So that's like I gotta get the stone down and

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<v Speaker 2>then can like build from there. So we're gonna work it.

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<v Speaker 2>We're gonna work something out there.

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<v Speaker 1>I can't wait. And I want to talk about your

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<v Speaker 1>move to New York and what they might look like

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<v Speaker 1>for your Teddy as well.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, your opinion.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, we'll discuss before we dive into all things Teddy.

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<v Speaker 1>I like to start this podcast with the case of

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<v Speaker 1>the week and this kind of just like opens up

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<v Speaker 1>what life is like in the trenches, if you will,

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<v Speaker 1>for the listeners. And so this particular case, there was

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<v Speaker 1>a guy, this is probably about a year ago. A

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<v Speaker 1>guy was walking his dog off leash in each EASTU leash,

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<v Speaker 1>East Nashville.

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<v Speaker 2>I think I know this story.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you know this?

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<v Speaker 2>I only said like four things and I think I know.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh boy, you know what happens next?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, isn't this this how small Nashville is?

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<v Speaker 1>Okay? If this story is right, well I'm going to

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<v Speaker 1>be shocked. If you know this.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe it is one of your class classes that heats

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<v Speaker 2>it up, okay, because it's a successful thing.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, this is before I was concierge. But still, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>great guy, great guy. Okay. So he's walking his dog

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<v Speaker 1>off leash. And this, by the way, for everyone listening,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't care how good your dog is, Like drivers

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<v Speaker 1>are crazy. They still want to like sniff and get

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<v Speaker 1>into things. Put your dog on a leash. It like

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<v Speaker 1>gives me heart palpitation seeing them running around off leash. Anyways,

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<v Speaker 1>this dog, he notices is sniffing in a bush. He

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<v Speaker 1>goes to kind of see, like, what are you looking? Like,

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<v Speaker 1>what are you sniffing at? And the dog pops back up.

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<v Speaker 1>He has like something plastic in his mouth, and he

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<v Speaker 1>sees plastic and white. The dog fwallows it. This happens

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<v Speaker 1>all the time. He's like, maybe it's trash, maybe it's

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<v Speaker 1>a napkin. We'll see, we'll see. They get home about

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<v Speaker 1>a half hour later. The dog is super agitated. He's

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<v Speaker 1>pacing around the house. He's just acting really strange. And

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<v Speaker 1>so he calls us and I tells us what's going on,

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<v Speaker 1>and we say, yeah, you should definitely bring him in.

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<v Speaker 1>Let us take a look at him. The dog comes

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<v Speaker 1>to the clinic and he has the highest heart rate

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<v Speaker 1>I have ever heard in a dog. It was like

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<v Speaker 1>three hundred beats for a minute. He is panting full

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<v Speaker 1>body trimmers, pupils are huge. He has a temperature through

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<v Speaker 1>the roof and and a young dog. We always think,

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<v Speaker 1>what have you gotten into? What kind of talks in

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<v Speaker 1>We drug test him and come to find out he

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<v Speaker 1>an entire bag of cocaine.

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<v Speaker 2>Stop it, This is not the story I heard.

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<v Speaker 1>I was gonna say that the insane just.

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<v Speaker 2>In the park there's a bag of cocaine sitting around it.

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<v Speaker 1>It was on the streets. He was walking down the sidewalk.

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<v Speaker 1>And we have seen this time and time again a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of times. It'll be like an edible, like weed.

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<v Speaker 1>Edibles for whatever reason will be like dropped and on

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<v Speaker 1>the street. This is definitely my first time of a

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<v Speaker 1>dog eating an entire bag of cocaine.

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<v Speaker 2>What do you do well the dog?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, you can give it like special muscle relaxes,

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<v Speaker 1>but we had to hospitalize. We sent it right to

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<v Speaker 1>the er, to the ICU. They do like tons of

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<v Speaker 1>ivy fluids to kind of flush the elter system. He

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<v Speaker 1>ended up like seizing for multiple days in a row,

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<v Speaker 1>like full blown overdose. And I'm like, I want to

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<v Speaker 1>say that he did great and went on to be fine,

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<v Speaker 1>but he didn't. It did not end well. I'm so

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<v Speaker 1>sorry that I brought you to this podcast to tell

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<v Speaker 1>you this horrible story. But I think that this just

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<v Speaker 1>really reiterates how important it is to have your pet

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<v Speaker 1>on a leash, and even when they're on a leash,

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<v Speaker 1>like keep an eye on like what they're getting into,

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<v Speaker 1>because like you do see this.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'm I'm a huge leash guy, just like I

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<v Speaker 2>think you have to be. That is so sad. The well,

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<v Speaker 2>sorry that I was gonna say that I thought it was.

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<v Speaker 2>It was the same start of the story. Very well

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<v Speaker 2>trained dog, service animal, smartest breeds out there, no leash,

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<v Speaker 2>which is typical I guess for this owner. And he

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<v Speaker 2>went up to a girl there at the park and

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<v Speaker 2>he's playing with the girl and the girl was like

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<v Speaker 2>it was out of sight of the owner, I guess,

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<v Speaker 2>And the girl said he was the dog was amazing.

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<v Speaker 2>And then he gets distracted and all of a sudden

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<v Speaker 2>he hears shots, gunshots.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh I know the story too.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, this was Percy Warner Park. And he goes over

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<v Speaker 2>and then and then guy that was nearby said that

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<v Speaker 2>he felt threatened by the dog and the girl was like,

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<v Speaker 2>this was the sweetest dog in the world. That dog

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<v Speaker 2>did nothing. I was the eyewitness. There was nothing.

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<v Speaker 1>There were multiple eyewitnesses.

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<v Speaker 2>Multiple eye witnesses saying there was no attack, There was

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<v Speaker 2>no nothing, and this guy took out a gun and

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<v Speaker 2>killed the dog, probably broad daylight at a very like

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<v Speaker 2>well known safe part, which is just it's I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>there's a lot to tackle within that situation, right, Like,

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<v Speaker 2>there's a lot of different areas you could talk through,

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<v Speaker 2>but you know it does there's the theme from the

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<v Speaker 2>other one is.

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<v Speaker 1>Like leash exactly.

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<v Speaker 2>Obviously there's a lot more issues in that circumstance, but

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<v Speaker 2>that's yeah, there's so much factor, yeah, unpacked there, but

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<v Speaker 2>the leash thing, it's really.

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<v Speaker 1>Speaking of leash. Yes, talk about Teddy.

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<v Speaker 2>Talk about Teddy Man.

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<v Speaker 1>So all the listeners know I do a ton with

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<v Speaker 1>wags and walks and that is where you got Teddy from. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>do you know? Tell us about him, like what's his age?

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<v Speaker 1>Do you know his breed? And what is his backstory?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, so he is he's ten months when I got him.

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<v Speaker 2>I've had him for a month now, so eleven months.

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<v Speaker 2>That's all prediction, right, you guys decide that based on teeth. Yeah, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>so that's what they told me based on teeth. His

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<v Speaker 2>back His backstory is wild. I actually haven't shared this yet.

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<v Speaker 2>He he in November, and I wish I had the

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<v Speaker 2>notes in front of me so I got this perfectly correct.

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<v Speaker 2>But in November, his owner was arrested, and when he

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<v Speaker 2>was arrested, it was a pretty serious charge. And at

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<v Speaker 2>that point that owner had the two options to give

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<v Speaker 2>the dog up.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you know what the charge was? No, like, did

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<v Speaker 1>he commit homicide or something?

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<v Speaker 2>I like, trust me, I'm gonna find out.

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<v Speaker 1>We have to know.

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<v Speaker 2>Because I don't have any information. I'm gonna I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 2>go true crime because I love true grind. So he

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<v Speaker 2>gets arrested, it's a serious charge, and then he has

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<v Speaker 2>two options to surrender the dog. It'll go to a

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<v Speaker 2>shelter to rescue, or a family member can take the dog.

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<v Speaker 2>He wouldn't do either option. As a result of that,

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<v Speaker 2>he then has to go in a specific type of shelter.

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<v Speaker 2>In this shelter from when I was told it was

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<v Speaker 2>an outdoor shelter. Now I had a roof, but it

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<v Speaker 2>was outdoors. So from November to February. Teddy was only

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<v Speaker 2>in this shelter outdoors through the entire winter until a

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<v Speaker 2>decision was made on the case. He was held in custody.

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<v Speaker 2>A decision was made in February.

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<v Speaker 1>I believe he was like in doggy foster care.

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<v Speaker 2>He was in doggy foster care. Yeah, except yeah, sounds

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<v Speaker 2>even like a little bit worse. Yeah, And they I

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<v Speaker 2>have pictures of him like this in this like small

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<v Speaker 2>area and it's not great. And then when the when

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<v Speaker 2>the guy was found guilty, that is when Waggs was

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<v Speaker 2>able to like the Wags had their eye on him.

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<v Speaker 2>The second he was found guilty, Weggs could take him.

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<v Speaker 2>And it was the day that he arrived. It was

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<v Speaker 2>the next day I came in. So that's like, are you.

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<v Speaker 1>Just going there? Were you looking for a dog or

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<v Speaker 1>are you going to do like social media stuff? How

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<v Speaker 1>did that?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah? I had my ex fiance and I had two

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<v Speaker 2>dogs together, and I don't want to get into that

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<v Speaker 2>on this podcast, but long and short, they're in a good,

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<v Speaker 2>healthy and happy place with her and I hadn't seen

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<v Speaker 2>them since May of last year, and so I have

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<v Speaker 2>been like really like having a void in my heart

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<v Speaker 2>for dogs and It was February thirteenth, and the mailman

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<v Speaker 2>left two dog bones at my front door and I

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<v Speaker 2>was like I can't. I like, like, I literally and

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<v Speaker 2>I took a video of it. I'm like, I'm dying

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<v Speaker 2>right now. And Wags and Walks actually reached out. They're like, hey,

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<v Speaker 2>why don't you come volunteer and just come spend some

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<v Speaker 2>time with dogs and like maybe they'll put a smile

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<v Speaker 2>on your face on Valentine's Day. So I was like,

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<v Speaker 2>you know what, You're right, And typically my days are

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<v Speaker 2>just warped and packed and back to back meetings. I

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<v Speaker 2>canceled everything and I was like, I'm coming in tomorrow.

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<v Speaker 2>And so I went into Wags when I went John

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<v Speaker 2>Gurney and we went to go we played with all

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<v Speaker 2>these dogs, and then I met Teddy that day and

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<v Speaker 2>that was the again. He got there the day before.

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<v Speaker 2>He wasn't even registered in their system, and I was like,

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<v Speaker 2>oh my god, shit, shit, it's not good, this is

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<v Speaker 2>not good. It's so funny media. Oh. It was the

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<v Speaker 2>second I put my eyes on him and I was like,

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<v Speaker 2>oh no, oh no.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if love it first sight for humans exists, maybe,

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<v Speaker 1>but with dogs.

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<v Speaker 2>It was instantly, I was like, I looked at him like,

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<v Speaker 2>oh no, I walked away. I did it like that,

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<v Speaker 2>and I'm like, ohh And I came out and we

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<v Speaker 2>had soul plays. So I'm like, all right, take a breather.

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<v Speaker 2>And I promised myself I would if anything, I would

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<v Speaker 2>walk out, take a day or two. Took a day

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<v Speaker 2>or two, went back to play with him for like

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<v Speaker 2>three hours, walked them everything. I'm like, he's mine and

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<v Speaker 2>so that was like, that was yo. His breed. He

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<v Speaker 2>looks like a gold but he's definitely got something else.

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<v Speaker 2>No way. His DNA testing's in right now, so I

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<v Speaker 2>don't even know what he is. But I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe Collie, I don't know. Everyone's got a different opinion

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<v Speaker 2>on it.

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<v Speaker 1>How how much does he weigh?

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<v Speaker 2>He weighs he's tall, Like off the ground, he's tall,

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<v Speaker 2>but he's around he's around sixty pounds.

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<v Speaker 1>Does he have on his back feet? Does he have

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<v Speaker 1>back do claws?

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<v Speaker 2>Yes?

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<v Speaker 1>I could he does.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I could see him having great Pyrenees And.

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<v Speaker 2>That's what that's what the Wag's found. That's what Catherine said.

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<v Speaker 1>I could see that. I was like, what, I've never

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<v Speaker 1>seen him in person, but.

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<v Speaker 2>That's a that's a big dog, big dog.

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<v Speaker 1>And they were they are bred to protect chicken coops.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh interesting, yeah, I know, or like farm animals.

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<v Speaker 2>So what would that mean behaviorally?

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<v Speaker 1>Behaviorally, it means that he they're a very smart he

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<v Speaker 1>is smart, probably too smart for it's a good yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and that they just can be a little bit more

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<v Speaker 1>like like they're just can be protective.

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<v Speaker 2>They're protective, they're very stimulated, they're very he's very alpha. Yeah, okay, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>we've had gon have to check that. No, okay, so recently.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, was he neutered at wags?

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<v Speaker 2>Yes?

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, interesting? And how I mean he's ten months old.

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<v Speaker 1>I have this theory that dogs come from rescue and

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<v Speaker 1>they either come to you a little bit more like mellow,

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<v Speaker 1>and then as they get more comfortable, they're like let's

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<v Speaker 1>go and they're crazy, or they come and they're like

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<v Speaker 1>super hyper stimulated already like really on edge and then

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<v Speaker 1>they start to calm down. Yes, how is he?

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<v Speaker 2>He is the definition of extremely stimulated, like he is

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<v Speaker 2>a wild man. He is. Oh yeah, and you could tell,

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<v Speaker 2>like right, dogs are packed animals. He definitely whatever packed

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<v Speaker 2>he was in, he was the leader and you could

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<v Speaker 2>tell it's his intention and energy is like so kind

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<v Speaker 2>and sweet and fun and smiley. But he is also

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<v Speaker 2>never been told no in his whole life. So like

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<v Speaker 2>you could tell he reat wherever he was with this

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<v Speaker 2>dude that's in jail. That dude got his show run

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<v Speaker 2>by Rango, which.

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<v Speaker 1>Was Commitment murder Y Ringo's the Box.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Rango was the bike. Rango's got street red and

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<v Speaker 2>now he's teddy. But yeah, so he has a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of training to be done. But he's such a sweet,

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<v Speaker 2>like kind boy too, Like he's got such a soft

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<v Speaker 2>side to him.

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<v Speaker 1>I we were talking about this a little bit before,

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<v Speaker 1>but I tell owners, it is so common that they

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<v Speaker 1>come to me and they have a new puppy and

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<v Speaker 1>the puppy is like eight, ten, twelve weeks old. They're like,

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<v Speaker 1>it's so cute, it'd sleep so much. I have the

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<v Speaker 1>perfect puppy. They come back six months later and they're like,

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<v Speaker 1>what have I done? This dog is a monster, like

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<v Speaker 1>I won't get me, help me, And I like, this

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<v Speaker 1>is very normal from months eight to twelve, maybe him

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<v Speaker 1>like eighteen, they're just on a tear.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you're exactly, And he wasn't you know, he just

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<v Speaker 2>wasn't the way so Nicki. The way Nikki kind of

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<v Speaker 2>explained it, She's like, for the for.

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<v Speaker 1>The listeners, Nicki is the trainer that we had on

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<v Speaker 1>season two. She's actually coming back.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh she's yeah, she's so good.

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<v Speaker 1>She's amazing. People loved her. They were like, bring her back.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, oh my gosh.

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<v Speaker 1>The people the listeners know Nicki.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. When she talks, I don't say. I'm just like yes,

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<v Speaker 2>like writing notes, just keep telling me. I think the

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<v Speaker 2>way she explains it is very helpful too, because it's

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<v Speaker 2>the psychology and then the action which is really helpful.

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<v Speaker 2>But what she was saying was that like thin, imagine

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<v Speaker 2>like a human like I just dropped, like name a

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<v Speaker 2>random city in a country anywhere, Tokyo, Copenhagen, Okay, Copenhagen, Tokyo,

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<v Speaker 2>wherever you put yourself there, and you're just like go

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<v Speaker 2>figure it out. You'd be like look, you know, you'd

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<v Speaker 2>be stimulating looking everywhere do I go? What's the currency?

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<v Speaker 2>What's the restaurant? Where do I stay? You just like

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<v Speaker 2>you don't know, ha ha, It's like that's your dog

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<v Speaker 2>right now. And imagine you know Tokyo, Copenhagen, and I

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<v Speaker 2>bring like the best a very good friend who knows everything.

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<v Speaker 2>They speak dual languages, they know the spots in the restaurants.

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<v Speaker 2>What are you gonna do. You're gonna let them lead

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<v Speaker 2>and then you're gonna follow their lead and then they're

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<v Speaker 2>gonna show you everywhere and you're gonna be safe and sound.

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<v Speaker 2>This is what the dog needs, Like you have to

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<v Speaker 2>be the leader and these dogs love you. Most dogs

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<v Speaker 2>don't respect their owners, and you have to develop a

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<v Speaker 2>respect with your dog. And so we've gone through a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of like intense training, everything from create training to

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<v Speaker 2>opening the door letting him come out when he's told

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<v Speaker 2>to come out. But then it's like this constant re

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<v Speaker 2>establishing relevance, right, which is like, so he gets out

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<v Speaker 2>of the crate, Now we got to re establish relevance.

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<v Speaker 2>Then we got to open the door, make sure he

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<v Speaker 2>doesn't go out of the door without being told. Then

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<v Speaker 2>the leash training, and there's been a lot of ups

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<v Speaker 2>and downs and challenges and lefts and rights. But the

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<v Speaker 2>biggest thing that we're working on is he's mouthy. And

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't realize that, like if a dog is like

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<v Speaker 2>what Nikki had said, if a dog is biting your

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<v Speaker 2>your leash. It's an extension of you. It's like they're

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<v Speaker 2>biting you. And if they're putting your fingers or hand

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<v Speaker 2>in their mouth in any capacity, even if it's like

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<v Speaker 2>playful and like they think it's a toy, like they're

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<v Speaker 2>not biting to hurt, but it's like like it's the

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<v Speaker 2>ultimate sign of disrespect, like they that doesn't happen. And

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<v Speaker 2>so he does that. And then he also his other

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<v Speaker 2>thing that he's what we're really working on, is cars

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<v Speaker 2>come by and he will rip after a car like

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<v Speaker 2>it's a moving toy. So which is a lot, right,

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<v Speaker 2>because the consequences of both of those actions, if not

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<v Speaker 2>appropriately handled, could be severe injury or death or where

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<v Speaker 2>whatever else could be from that. So those are like

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<v Speaker 2>two things we're taken like super seriously.

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<v Speaker 1>That's so interesting. I love the analogy of going to

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<v Speaker 1>a new city being totally overstimulated and we are there.

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<v Speaker 1>It's so interesting because our first instinct is, Oh, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>just gonna love you, just going to love you through it,

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<v Speaker 1>but they don't. They want your love, of course, and

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<v Speaker 1>I think there's like a balance, but we also have

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<v Speaker 1>to be their structure, right, which means we have to

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<v Speaker 1>set boundaries and we have to you know, be kind

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<v Speaker 1>of strict. And that is so I see owners struggle

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<v Speaker 1>with that.

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<v Speaker 2>I struggle with that whole hard. I'm like, I don't know,

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<v Speaker 2>it's good. It's got to be good raining for a

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<v Speaker 2>child because it is like say, like being like a

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<v Speaker 2>little tough on him, yes, and resetting boundaries and doing

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<v Speaker 2>things I know that are irritating him, but for his

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<v Speaker 2>best interest and mine, it's so hard.

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<v Speaker 1>And when we have human children, Yeah, thank you, Nikki,

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<v Speaker 1>we are ready.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, thank you, Nikki. We appreciate it. Basic because he's mouth.

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<v Speaker 2>The one thing that we're working on is like the figure.

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<v Speaker 1>Eight, which is I don't know this, okay.

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<v Speaker 2>So it's you take essentially you take the the the

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<v Speaker 2>lea the lead. It's not the leash. It's like that

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<v Speaker 2>lead thing you know, the rope that these yeah, no, no,

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<v Speaker 2>no no, it's just essentially it's a leash. So it's

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<v Speaker 2>a leash, but it's just a rope, okay. And you

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<v Speaker 2>you bring it enough of it down under what do

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<v Speaker 2>you call this the muzzle the muzzle and you you

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<v Speaker 2>turn it and then you put the it's the rope

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<v Speaker 2>over the muzzle. So it's just it's just a rope.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like one like kind of like leash over the muzzle,

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<v Speaker 2>but it's like tying the back and it helps them

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<v Speaker 2>with getting comfortable that they don't have control. It doesn't hurt,

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<v Speaker 2>doesn't create any pain, but it's a new way of

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<v Speaker 2>like when we're walking, you're not going to pick up

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<v Speaker 2>that stick, Like you're not going to do that. And

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<v Speaker 2>it's a constant theme with Nicki's training of like you

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<v Speaker 2>have to lead, you have to be in front, but

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<v Speaker 2>also you're almost like a horse, like your body language,

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<v Speaker 2>everything you do, they're reading. So if I'm on my phone,

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<v Speaker 2>he's going to know I'm distracted. He's going to start

0:19:21.000 --> 0:19:24.960
<v Speaker 2>leading all these little things. So like the thing that's

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<v Speaker 2>the most annoying is practicing is literally me walking a

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<v Speaker 2>foot forward. If he gets in front of me, we

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<v Speaker 2>turn around, just back and forth, so he knows at

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<v Speaker 2>all times he needs to be behind me. So there's

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<v Speaker 2>a bunch of stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>But my German shepherd went to Nicki and so he's

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<v Speaker 1>upstairs right now sleeping because we just spent all morning

0:19:44.640 --> 0:19:47.000
<v Speaker 1>out front. If he gets ahead of me, we turn

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<v Speaker 1>around and go back the other direction. If he has

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<v Speaker 1>made so many strides, but there's still times where he's like,

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<v Speaker 1>oh another dog, yeah, and yeah. I mean it's like

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<v Speaker 1>you're like, I'm burning a hole in the sidewalk from

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<v Speaker 1>going five paces forward five paces back.

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<v Speaker 2>It's but it's like the patients and the consistency. One

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<v Speaker 2>thing I thought was interesting. I don't know if I

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<v Speaker 2>don't think she'd care if I shared this. I just

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<v Speaker 2>found it fascinating is when she's doing this. What I

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<v Speaker 2>love is she's explaining the psychology of like what's happening

0:20:11.600 --> 0:20:13.760
<v Speaker 2>to the doc and he was being we were going

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<v Speaker 2>she was he was throwing a fit, biting the leash

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<v Speaker 2>and like trying to play tug of war, and she

0:20:18.760 --> 0:20:21.480
<v Speaker 2>went down got his energy. It was a whole thing.

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<v Speaker 2>He was being a brat and she was doing this

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<v Speaker 2>thing with his mouth and it didn't create pain, but

0:20:27.280 --> 0:20:29.000
<v Speaker 2>it created this signal. I was like, what are you doing?

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<v Speaker 2>What is that? I've never seen that, And she's like,

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<v Speaker 2>when I do this, he's going to instantly stop. And

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, almost like imagine a pressure point, but

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<v Speaker 2>not a pressure point. I asked her to explain it.

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<v Speaker 2>She explained it and on the on a dog's muzzle

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<v Speaker 2>like on the top muzzle. I don't know what you

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<v Speaker 2>call that the upper what do you refer to that?

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<v Speaker 1>A snout?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, the snout, but like that where their teeth are

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<v Speaker 2>on the top versus the bottom, Like what would you

0:20:50.520 --> 0:20:51.520
<v Speaker 2>call this versus?

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<v Speaker 1>This is the maxilla?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, so you open their muzzle the maxilla. Yeah, And

0:20:56.200 --> 0:20:58.320
<v Speaker 2>she just put her hand in the maxilla and then

0:20:58.400 --> 0:21:01.520
<v Speaker 2>the fingers kind of press stuff on the gums, just

0:21:01.560 --> 0:21:03.439
<v Speaker 2>the maxilla. And I was like, tell me more, and

0:21:03.480 --> 0:21:06.040
<v Speaker 2>she's like, well, and I hope I get this right.

0:21:06.200 --> 0:21:08.720
<v Speaker 2>This is what she said. I believe is when dogs fight,

0:21:09.720 --> 0:21:12.880
<v Speaker 2>a dog is like kind of winning because that's where

0:21:12.920 --> 0:21:16.120
<v Speaker 2>they're gonna bite. So it's it's almost like the equivalent

0:21:16.160 --> 0:21:18.000
<v Speaker 2>of like if you're if you're in a fight with

0:21:18.080 --> 0:21:19.760
<v Speaker 2>a man or a woman or whatever, yeah, and they

0:21:19.760 --> 0:21:22.439
<v Speaker 2>put you in a headlock, and you're just like, Okay,

0:21:22.920 --> 0:21:24.560
<v Speaker 2>if someone puts me in a head lock, I'm fine. I'm

0:21:24.560 --> 0:21:26.439
<v Speaker 2>not going I'm not like bleeding, I'm not that, but

0:21:26.480 --> 0:21:27.920
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, okay, I gotta submit.

0:21:27.960 --> 0:21:30.000
<v Speaker 1>You got white yeah.

0:21:29.800 --> 0:21:31.480
<v Speaker 2>Like all right, white flag, like you you won this

0:21:32.160 --> 0:21:34.160
<v Speaker 2>and so things like that.

0:21:33.960 --> 0:21:36.240
<v Speaker 1>That just you wouldn't know and we don't learn that

0:21:36.280 --> 0:21:38.040
<v Speaker 1>from that school. I don't learn that.

0:21:38.280 --> 0:21:38.840
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

0:21:40.000 --> 0:21:42.399
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, So next time I'm going to fight with my sister,

0:21:42.400 --> 0:21:46.720
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna stick my hands in her mask. I'll show

0:21:46.760 --> 0:21:52.840
<v Speaker 1>her Morgan's shaking her head at me. Carla, if you're listening,

0:21:52.880 --> 0:21:57.080
<v Speaker 1>watch out. That is funny. I mean, that is really

0:21:57.160 --> 0:21:59.359
<v Speaker 1>interesting though, and a lot of it is just and

0:21:59.400 --> 0:22:01.680
<v Speaker 1>I do love it. She explains the psychology because a

0:22:01.680 --> 0:22:03.040
<v Speaker 1>lot of times you're like, do this, do that, but

0:22:03.040 --> 0:22:04.640
<v Speaker 1>you're like, why am I doing this? It doesn't really

0:22:04.640 --> 0:22:06.679
<v Speaker 1>make sense. When you can think through it, it's so

0:22:06.760 --> 0:22:07.680
<v Speaker 1>much more helpful.

0:22:07.840 --> 0:22:10.639
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, exactly. And she like even things like the couches,

0:22:10.680 --> 0:22:12.640
<v Speaker 2>Like dogs don't know what a couch is. We allow

0:22:12.680 --> 0:22:14.440
<v Speaker 2>them to get a couch. Once they get on a couch,

0:22:14.800 --> 0:22:18.000
<v Speaker 2>they are rated our like e ie with us. Yeah,

0:22:18.040 --> 0:22:19.920
<v Speaker 2>And so she's like, if you get to the point

0:22:20.080 --> 0:22:21.760
<v Speaker 2>that the dog come in the couch, it's got to

0:22:21.800 --> 0:22:24.560
<v Speaker 2>be earned, right, you know. And so like they sit

0:22:24.600 --> 0:22:26.240
<v Speaker 2>and then you let them come and if you want

0:22:26.240 --> 0:22:28.480
<v Speaker 2>them off, there's a demand for them to get off.

0:22:28.560 --> 0:22:31.960
<v Speaker 2>So it's the whole thing is just fascinating, but it's a.

0:22:31.960 --> 0:22:34.200
<v Speaker 1>Huge learning experience humans.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my, and I also realized like, how you know

0:22:36.560 --> 0:22:39.760
<v Speaker 2>I've had dogs in the past, and I'm just like, wow,

0:22:39.800 --> 0:22:40.640
<v Speaker 2>how much I.

0:22:40.600 --> 0:22:43.640
<v Speaker 1>Was not I am a horrible pet owner. It really makes.

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<v Speaker 2>You think and I know, I know, So it's a lot.

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<v Speaker 1>How is it going. When we had first talked about him,

0:22:49.640 --> 0:22:50.960
<v Speaker 1>he was limping a little bit.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, so he still is. It's interesting because like his

0:22:55.240 --> 0:22:58.320
<v Speaker 2>limp comes on and off. We have and this was

0:22:59.320 --> 0:23:02.720
<v Speaker 2>my last gold in. Poor guy was kicked in the

0:23:02.880 --> 0:23:06.840
<v Speaker 2>hip and was found in the streets. Bro yeah, and

0:23:06.960 --> 0:23:08.560
<v Speaker 2>found in the streets with a broken hip. He got

0:23:08.600 --> 0:23:12.720
<v Speaker 2>surgery and then we rescued him. Because of that, I'm

0:23:12.880 --> 0:23:15.000
<v Speaker 2>hyper aware of the hips on a dog, like whenever

0:23:15.200 --> 0:23:16.560
<v Speaker 2>am I walking him too much? Is he on the

0:23:16.600 --> 0:23:18.520
<v Speaker 2>concrete versus the grass? Because I would always want to

0:23:18.520 --> 0:23:21.000
<v Speaker 2>if he dragged it. So when I first picked him up,

0:23:21.640 --> 0:23:23.960
<v Speaker 2>I was like, something's up with his hip, But it

0:23:24.000 --> 0:23:26.919
<v Speaker 2>wasn't too drastic, and then it started to get worse,

0:23:26.920 --> 0:23:29.600
<v Speaker 2>but then it got better with pain, medication and inflammation.

0:23:29.920 --> 0:23:32.400
<v Speaker 2>So we got an X ray done. The x ray

0:23:33.000 --> 0:23:36.200
<v Speaker 2>is a big question mark because the vet said it's good.

0:23:36.600 --> 0:23:40.360
<v Speaker 2>The radiologist said it shows like an ACL tear. Now

0:23:40.400 --> 0:23:46.960
<v Speaker 2>we have wags has orthopedic that they suggest doctor Nunley.

0:23:47.240 --> 0:23:50.800
<v Speaker 2>Doctor Nunley is like, it's inconclusive. So I have three

0:23:50.840 --> 0:23:53.040
<v Speaker 2>different opinions from oh, I got to send those to

0:23:53.080 --> 0:23:56.280
<v Speaker 2>you want to gain your opinion. Three opinions and all

0:23:56.280 --> 0:23:58.320
<v Speaker 2>of them are up in the air. So what we're

0:23:58.320 --> 0:24:01.520
<v Speaker 2>doing is doctor Dunley is I guess he works all over,

0:24:01.600 --> 0:24:04.960
<v Speaker 2>So we're setting an appointment with him for Teddy to

0:24:05.000 --> 0:24:06.760
<v Speaker 2>go in to see if there's an ACL tear.

0:24:06.840 --> 0:24:09.880
<v Speaker 1>We can feel it. Yeah, it's so interesting because in humans,

0:24:10.119 --> 0:24:12.960
<v Speaker 1>well I guess, and animals too. When we take X rays,

0:24:13.359 --> 0:24:17.280
<v Speaker 1>we can see how does the femur fit into the

0:24:17.320 --> 0:24:19.640
<v Speaker 1>hip socket, and that tells us do they have hYP

0:24:19.680 --> 0:24:22.480
<v Speaker 1>dysplasia or not. That's super easy to rule in or out.

0:24:22.880 --> 0:24:25.919
<v Speaker 1>But at ligament tear we instead of ACL, we call

0:24:26.000 --> 0:24:28.120
<v Speaker 1>it CCL and dog that's right, I know something else

0:24:28.920 --> 0:24:32.280
<v Speaker 1>it's an ACL same thing. We can't really see that.

0:24:32.320 --> 0:24:35.639
<v Speaker 1>We can't see that ligament on X ray. Soft tissue

0:24:35.680 --> 0:24:41.960
<v Speaker 1>structures don't really radiate like bones do, and so we

0:24:42.000 --> 0:24:45.240
<v Speaker 1>can only see evidence of a CCL rupture. So like,

0:24:45.320 --> 0:24:47.120
<v Speaker 1>is there a little bit of swelling which we can

0:24:47.160 --> 0:24:50.080
<v Speaker 1>see on X ray? Is are the bones like slightly

0:24:50.119 --> 0:24:52.560
<v Speaker 1>out of position. But we can't say, oh, yeah, slam dunk,

0:24:52.600 --> 0:24:55.120
<v Speaker 1>the CCL is torn. So we do put a lot

0:24:55.119 --> 0:24:57.760
<v Speaker 1>of weight on our exam and when we move the

0:24:57.800 --> 0:24:59.879
<v Speaker 1>different bones in the leg, if there's a lot of

0:25:00.359 --> 0:25:02.959
<v Speaker 1>we call it laxity, but like a lot of extra movement,

0:25:03.400 --> 0:25:05.680
<v Speaker 1>then that would be give us more evidence that yeah,

0:25:05.720 --> 0:25:07.840
<v Speaker 1>this probably is a torn CCL.

0:25:08.040 --> 0:25:10.159
<v Speaker 2>Do dogs do MRIs.

0:25:09.800 --> 0:25:12.960
<v Speaker 1>They Doris, would you do an MRI? You absolutely could.

0:25:13.080 --> 0:25:16.840
<v Speaker 1>I would say yeah. I would say, we're gonna know

0:25:17.000 --> 0:25:18.679
<v Speaker 1>by the time we do the exam and take the

0:25:18.760 --> 0:25:21.400
<v Speaker 1>X right, it's gonna be pretty solid. If it ever

0:25:21.440 --> 0:25:23.160
<v Speaker 1>gets to the point where I've had a dog who

0:25:23.160 --> 0:25:25.960
<v Speaker 1>had this horrible swelling in his front leg. We didn't

0:25:26.000 --> 0:25:27.720
<v Speaker 1>know why we couldn't get to the bottom of it,

0:25:27.720 --> 0:25:30.399
<v Speaker 1>and we did an MRI. So we do have that

0:25:30.400 --> 0:25:32.760
<v Speaker 1>as an option. But you're that's like way more expensive

0:25:32.840 --> 0:25:34.120
<v Speaker 1>than an X ray an exam.

0:25:34.200 --> 0:25:36.840
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. What's interesting is like it's hard. I don't know.

0:25:36.960 --> 0:25:39.199
<v Speaker 2>I guess we'll have to see because there's some days

0:25:39.760 --> 0:25:41.159
<v Speaker 2>he's not phase it all.

0:25:41.160 --> 0:25:43.600
<v Speaker 1>On other days he limps a little bit, say a

0:25:43.600 --> 0:25:45.479
<v Speaker 1>little bit, is he like toe touching? Like what does

0:25:45.520 --> 0:25:48.199
<v Speaker 1>that mean like limping on his toe or is he

0:25:48.280 --> 0:25:50.280
<v Speaker 1>limping like not putting any weight on it at all?

0:25:50.440 --> 0:25:54.000
<v Speaker 2>Toe touching? Okay, but like that same day he'll be

0:25:54.040 --> 0:25:57.320
<v Speaker 2>doing bunny jumps fifteen feet in the air, like trying

0:25:57.320 --> 0:25:59.720
<v Speaker 2>to run, and I'm slowing them out there. We're pretty

0:26:00.600 --> 0:26:03.080
<v Speaker 2>since I went to the doctor, we're like really slowing

0:26:03.119 --> 0:26:05.359
<v Speaker 2>down exercise a little bit because they suggested two to

0:26:05.440 --> 0:26:09.360
<v Speaker 2>three weeks. You know, obviously he's a teenage wild man,

0:26:09.400 --> 0:26:11.360
<v Speaker 2>so give him some love and get him out there.

0:26:11.480 --> 0:26:13.600
<v Speaker 2>But like, let's let's keep an eye on it, and

0:26:13.600 --> 0:26:15.719
<v Speaker 2>then he's taking anti inflammation stuff.

0:26:15.800 --> 0:26:18.920
<v Speaker 1>Okay, yeah, I mean, and so even if they tear

0:26:19.400 --> 0:26:21.440
<v Speaker 1>their acls, it doesn't have to be a full tear.

0:26:21.480 --> 0:26:24.080
<v Speaker 1>It could be a partial tear too, That's one thing

0:26:24.119 --> 0:26:26.080
<v Speaker 1>to think about. And so with that it can kind

0:26:26.080 --> 0:26:28.320
<v Speaker 1>of wax and weig like my husband Cody toward his

0:26:28.359 --> 0:26:31.320
<v Speaker 1>ACL and then went scuba diving the week after. So

0:26:31.520 --> 0:26:33.200
<v Speaker 1>they can tear it and still get around.

0:26:33.240 --> 0:26:33.560
<v Speaker 2>Okay.

0:26:33.640 --> 0:26:36.600
<v Speaker 1>So I would say I wouldn't let that like sway

0:26:36.640 --> 0:26:37.800
<v Speaker 1>me one way or another.

0:26:37.600 --> 0:26:39.280
<v Speaker 2>Okay, but it should I mean, it should get like

0:26:39.359 --> 0:26:41.439
<v Speaker 2>if it's a tear, we'll find out here. So the

0:26:41.480 --> 0:26:43.679
<v Speaker 2>next week or two it should get fixed though.

0:26:43.600 --> 0:26:47.720
<v Speaker 1>Right, yes, and a young, young, one active, million trillion

0:26:47.760 --> 0:26:50.960
<v Speaker 1>percent fix it. Yeah, absolutely, because if you don't fix

0:26:51.040 --> 0:26:53.600
<v Speaker 1>it then they're really predisposed to arthritis in their joint.

0:26:54.119 --> 0:26:55.960
<v Speaker 1>They kind of hobble around their whole life. And we

0:26:56.000 --> 0:26:58.560
<v Speaker 1>have such like the surgery now as like so it's

0:26:58.600 --> 0:27:01.640
<v Speaker 1>a well oiled machine. They do great. Definitely worth doing.

0:27:01.800 --> 0:27:04.840
<v Speaker 2>The idea of him two weeks though, like not being

0:27:04.880 --> 0:27:06.879
<v Speaker 2>able to walk, it breaks that.

0:27:07.640 --> 0:27:08.960
<v Speaker 1>It's like twelve weeks.

0:27:09.080 --> 0:27:11.000
<v Speaker 2>Oh my god, twelve weeks.

0:27:11.240 --> 0:27:12.560
<v Speaker 1>It's twelve weeks of recovery.

0:27:12.640 --> 0:27:18.400
<v Speaker 2>The first this poor guy, he's got so much. He's

0:27:18.400 --> 0:27:21.280
<v Speaker 2>going to the therapist for dogs. He's gonna need to

0:27:21.320 --> 0:27:22.000
<v Speaker 2>talk to someone.

0:27:22.040 --> 0:27:26.520
<v Speaker 1>Sounds like he could use a concier therapist. I do

0:27:26.680 --> 0:27:28.800
<v Speaker 1>not geting. I would. I can talk to him.

0:27:28.880 --> 0:27:29.720
<v Speaker 2>Can you tell me.

0:27:29.680 --> 0:27:30.360
<v Speaker 1>About your feelings?

0:27:30.440 --> 0:27:30.520
<v Speaker 2>No?

0:27:30.680 --> 0:27:33.080
<v Speaker 1>So really the first two to four weeks on a

0:27:33.160 --> 0:27:35.280
<v Speaker 1>leash in and out to go potty right back inside.

0:27:35.359 --> 0:27:37.520
<v Speaker 2>Oh my god, that is a form of torture for

0:27:37.560 --> 0:27:38.040
<v Speaker 2>this dog.

0:27:38.160 --> 0:27:39.480
<v Speaker 1>And then four weeks you can put them on a

0:27:39.520 --> 0:27:43.520
<v Speaker 1>leash and like go around the block of eight weeks

0:27:43.560 --> 0:27:45.600
<v Speaker 1>a little bit more twelve weeks back to normal activity.

0:27:45.720 --> 0:27:46.960
<v Speaker 2>I really hope it's not Tor.

0:27:47.400 --> 0:27:49.639
<v Speaker 1>I hope so too. And honestly, I mean he's so

0:27:49.760 --> 0:27:52.000
<v Speaker 1>young and rambunctious right now. Like you, it's okay, you're

0:27:52.000 --> 0:27:54.880
<v Speaker 1>not like neglecting by not doing anything, especially since he's

0:27:54.920 --> 0:27:57.639
<v Speaker 1>not limping on a like regular basis.

0:27:57.760 --> 0:27:59.720
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, we're in. It's all we're doing is waiting for

0:27:59.760 --> 0:28:02.360
<v Speaker 2>this with yes, which is gonna be the next week

0:28:02.400 --> 0:28:02.680
<v Speaker 2>or two.

0:28:02.920 --> 0:28:05.440
<v Speaker 1>That Jeff, that's doctor Nunley's heirs. Name is Jeff.

0:28:05.480 --> 0:28:05.920
<v Speaker 2>Oh Jeff.

0:28:06.200 --> 0:28:07.000
<v Speaker 1>Shout out to Jeff.

0:28:07.480 --> 0:28:08.960
<v Speaker 2>Let's go tell us what's.

0:28:08.840 --> 0:28:20.320
<v Speaker 1>Going on that he needs you. He needs a therapist,

0:28:20.640 --> 0:28:23.880
<v Speaker 1>an orthopedist. Action here got him for one month.

0:28:24.280 --> 0:28:27.480
<v Speaker 2>One month. He gets more packages than me. He's got

0:28:27.480 --> 0:28:30.400
<v Speaker 2>a lot of fans out there. People love speeches. It's

0:28:30.440 --> 0:28:33.080
<v Speaker 2>like a speech. They love to.

0:28:33.080 --> 0:28:34.520
<v Speaker 1>Start monetizing on my dogs.

0:28:34.560 --> 0:28:36.600
<v Speaker 2>Honestly, there's like when I walked out to come here,

0:28:36.680 --> 0:28:39.240
<v Speaker 2>FedEx showed up and then there's like four or five packages.

0:28:39.720 --> 0:28:41.800
<v Speaker 2>Everyone was for him. Everyone.

0:28:42.920 --> 0:28:43.760
<v Speaker 1>This is amazing.

0:28:44.120 --> 0:28:46.200
<v Speaker 2>He is just thriving. Get up here.

0:28:46.840 --> 0:28:50.000
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, camera putting you on social media?

0:28:50.680 --> 0:28:55.560
<v Speaker 2>Okay to know, Yeah, she's doing she should be doing.

0:28:55.600 --> 0:28:56.400
<v Speaker 2>She could do a lot.

0:28:56.800 --> 0:28:57.400
<v Speaker 1>She really could.

0:28:57.480 --> 0:29:00.320
<v Speaker 2>They're actually for the agency that I own. We some

0:29:00.440 --> 0:29:02.720
<v Speaker 2>dogs like Doug the Pug, or I mean, Doug the

0:29:02.800 --> 0:29:05.840
<v Speaker 2>Pug kills it. Dog the Pug Like Doug the Pug

0:29:05.880 --> 0:29:09.440
<v Speaker 2>makes the og. Majority of humans in this world does.

0:29:09.840 --> 0:29:12.160
<v Speaker 1>And he's like he has more followers than Miss Peaches.

0:29:12.200 --> 0:29:15.360
<v Speaker 1>He's the og. Doug has a new little sister named Dory.

0:29:15.600 --> 0:29:18.520
<v Speaker 2>Yes, I saw it, Doug her now, I know.

0:29:18.640 --> 0:29:19.360
<v Speaker 1>They're so cute.

0:29:19.520 --> 0:29:19.920
<v Speaker 2>Cute.

0:29:20.520 --> 0:29:23.200
<v Speaker 1>Okay, so you're thinking about moving to New York City,

0:29:23.360 --> 0:29:27.680
<v Speaker 1>which is no secret. Yeah, and how will I mean

0:29:27.800 --> 0:29:30.000
<v Speaker 1>is Teddy like a deciding factor in that, like, oho,

0:29:30.040 --> 0:29:32.640
<v Speaker 1>I want a yard for him in Nashville or yeah?

0:29:32.720 --> 0:29:34.080
<v Speaker 1>Is that playing into your decision at all?

0:29:34.400 --> 0:29:38.440
<v Speaker 2>It's definitely playing into my decision. And I brought him

0:29:38.440 --> 0:29:40.760
<v Speaker 2>to New York already, and he did great New York,

0:29:40.880 --> 0:29:44.040
<v Speaker 2>which is good. He'd like acclimated pretty well and we

0:29:44.080 --> 0:29:47.040
<v Speaker 2>didn't have any issues or anything. If I did live

0:29:47.040 --> 0:29:49.200
<v Speaker 2>in New York, it would have to be like Park,

0:29:49.320 --> 0:29:53.480
<v Speaker 2>would have to be within extreme close proximity. I think

0:29:53.520 --> 0:29:56.360
<v Speaker 2>what I'm where I'm leaning towards right now is buying

0:29:56.360 --> 0:29:59.000
<v Speaker 2>a place in Nashville, having a nice backyard, spending a

0:29:59.040 --> 0:30:01.240
<v Speaker 2>lot of time here and then having more of like

0:30:01.280 --> 0:30:04.240
<v Speaker 2>an office space in New York that I could get

0:30:04.280 --> 0:30:08.040
<v Speaker 2>the best podcast, have an area to cook and sleep,

0:30:08.400 --> 0:30:10.480
<v Speaker 2>so I could kind of like work as like a

0:30:10.480 --> 0:30:13.480
<v Speaker 2>an office and that I could do both. I'll go

0:30:13.520 --> 0:30:15.040
<v Speaker 2>up there to work a little bit and then come

0:30:15.080 --> 0:30:18.600
<v Speaker 2>back here to kind of relax and have residency here.

0:30:18.760 --> 0:30:26.400
<v Speaker 1>That's smart tax purposes too. Yeah, listening, just yeah, look away.

0:30:27.160 --> 0:30:30.680
<v Speaker 1>We I lived in downtown Chicago prior to moving here

0:30:31.000 --> 0:30:33.080
<v Speaker 1>and took care of all the pets in downtown Chicago,

0:30:33.120 --> 0:30:35.320
<v Speaker 1>which is just as urban as New York City, and

0:30:35.480 --> 0:30:37.520
<v Speaker 1>they I had a great day in there. So you

0:30:37.560 --> 0:30:41.360
<v Speaker 1>can have big dogs. Yeah, she's a big Yeah. So

0:30:41.400 --> 0:30:43.440
<v Speaker 1>you can have dogs that live in those settings and

0:30:43.480 --> 0:30:44.960
<v Speaker 1>they do great. I feel like people are like, how

0:30:44.960 --> 0:30:47.880
<v Speaker 1>could you put that dog in an apartment? Well, she

0:30:47.960 --> 0:30:51.400
<v Speaker 1>gets three walks a day and you know, you have

0:30:51.480 --> 0:30:53.800
<v Speaker 1>access to parks, so I wouldn't. I mean, they can

0:30:53.840 --> 0:30:56.240
<v Speaker 1>live a very nice, normal lifestyle in an urban setting

0:30:56.280 --> 0:30:56.560
<v Speaker 1>like that.

0:30:56.640 --> 0:30:59.040
<v Speaker 2>Okay, that's good to know. I should definitely get them trained,

0:30:59.160 --> 0:31:00.040
<v Speaker 2>fully trained.

0:30:59.760 --> 0:31:03.480
<v Speaker 1>For going to say that. First, We're gonna need like

0:31:03.560 --> 0:31:09.640
<v Speaker 1>a couple of years with Nikki. Yeah, I was gonna

0:31:09.680 --> 0:31:11.600
<v Speaker 1>that'll be that would be something else. Can you imagine

0:31:11.640 --> 0:31:13.640
<v Speaker 1>him just like tearing down the streets?

0:31:13.760 --> 0:31:16.080
<v Speaker 2>Oh gosh, well he did. He was actually really good

0:31:16.320 --> 0:31:18.360
<v Speaker 2>with the walks and stuff, which I'm surprised by.

0:31:19.120 --> 0:31:20.600
<v Speaker 1>If he likes to chase cars.

0:31:20.360 --> 0:31:23.760
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he likes to chase cars. One session with Nikki.

0:31:24.120 --> 0:31:25.800
<v Speaker 2>He doesn't chase cars anymore.

0:31:25.480 --> 0:31:27.320
<v Speaker 1>The old maximum point.

0:31:27.440 --> 0:31:31.400
<v Speaker 2>He does not chase cards anymore. He's doing just fine

0:31:31.400 --> 0:31:32.560
<v Speaker 2>with that now, which is good.

0:31:32.720 --> 0:31:33.239
<v Speaker 1>I love that.

0:31:33.520 --> 0:31:35.120
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Okay.

0:31:35.200 --> 0:31:39.200
<v Speaker 1>We always sort of wrap up our episodes with a

0:31:39.240 --> 0:31:43.000
<v Speaker 1>segment called paw and Order, So we're gonna do pawn Order.

0:31:43.080 --> 0:31:45.400
<v Speaker 1>And this is three things I would never do with

0:31:45.520 --> 0:31:48.120
<v Speaker 1>my pets as a veterinarian, and I think these will

0:31:48.160 --> 0:31:50.680
<v Speaker 1>be good for you as I've kind of tailored them

0:31:50.680 --> 0:31:53.840
<v Speaker 1>to like a new pet owner with a dog. So

0:31:54.080 --> 0:31:58.960
<v Speaker 1>Number one, I wouldn't follow directions on the back of

0:31:59.000 --> 0:32:01.960
<v Speaker 1>the bag when feed my pets unless they're a puppy.

0:32:02.000 --> 0:32:05.040
<v Speaker 1>That's the only caveat the reason being is they almost

0:32:05.080 --> 0:32:07.600
<v Speaker 1>always tell you to overfeed. My thought behind that is

0:32:07.600 --> 0:32:10.000
<v Speaker 1>it's probably the pet food companies want to sell more food.

0:32:10.840 --> 0:32:14.640
<v Speaker 1>Oh interesting, And so if you want to know how

0:32:14.680 --> 0:32:16.719
<v Speaker 1>much to feed your pet. Ask your veterinarian. We can

0:32:16.760 --> 0:32:19.959
<v Speaker 1>tell you exactly how many calories to feed, and then

0:32:19.960 --> 0:32:21.560
<v Speaker 1>based on what you're eating, we can tell you exactly

0:32:21.600 --> 0:32:22.520
<v Speaker 1>how much of that to give.

0:32:22.760 --> 0:32:24.400
<v Speaker 2>Can I put you on the spot, Yeah, Like, what

0:32:24.440 --> 0:32:26.800
<v Speaker 2>do you think he should he's fifty to fifty let's

0:32:26.800 --> 0:32:30.000
<v Speaker 2>say call it fifty to sixty pounds. He fluctuates your

0:32:30.040 --> 0:32:31.440
<v Speaker 2>active crazy barrier.

0:32:31.520 --> 0:32:32.720
<v Speaker 1>Have to take that into account.

0:32:33.160 --> 0:32:35.480
<v Speaker 2>And he's a grown boy, growing teenager.

0:32:35.200 --> 0:32:37.600
<v Speaker 1>Sixty pounds, We'll say, well.

0:32:37.440 --> 0:32:41.520
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'd say, like precisely, it's probably like fifty seven something. Okay,

0:32:41.600 --> 0:32:44.400
<v Speaker 2>fifty six fifty seven doing my calculata, your calculate, right,

0:32:44.440 --> 0:32:45.560
<v Speaker 2>And I'll tell you right now when I do. I

0:32:45.560 --> 0:32:47.360
<v Speaker 2>feed him every day at ten.

0:32:47.200 --> 0:32:51.920
<v Speaker 1>To five, at four fifty. Wait what ten to five?

0:32:51.960 --> 0:32:53.880
<v Speaker 2>I feed him twice a day, okay, at.

0:32:53.760 --> 0:32:56.680
<v Speaker 1>Ten and okay, it was like, wow, four fifty that

0:32:56.760 --> 0:33:04.560
<v Speaker 1>is very yeah, okayise five. So you who noted, Okay,

0:33:04.600 --> 0:33:07.720
<v Speaker 1>let's see here. So this is actually a really great example.

0:33:07.800 --> 0:33:10.719
<v Speaker 1>So if you had a fifty pound, fifty let's say,

0:33:10.720 --> 0:33:13.960
<v Speaker 1>sixty pound dog that isn't young and active and growing

0:33:14.000 --> 0:33:16.120
<v Speaker 1>in all the things, they would probably eat roughly around

0:33:16.160 --> 0:33:19.040
<v Speaker 1>like seven hundred calories a day, and a sixty pound

0:33:19.120 --> 0:33:22.120
<v Speaker 1>dog that is young and wild and active and biting

0:33:22.120 --> 0:33:24.160
<v Speaker 1>his leash and all the things you're going to get

0:33:24.160 --> 0:33:26.680
<v Speaker 1>closer to, like eleven hundred calories per day.

0:33:26.760 --> 0:33:27.680
<v Speaker 2>Okay, good to know.

0:33:27.800 --> 0:33:30.360
<v Speaker 1>So that's how much I would feed him, and then

0:33:30.400 --> 0:33:34.480
<v Speaker 1>you can look what are you feeding him.

0:33:34.800 --> 0:33:37.600
<v Speaker 2>There's a company called Mave that I've been okay with

0:33:37.640 --> 0:33:39.840
<v Speaker 2>their stuff like the Farmer's Dog. It's all like the

0:33:39.840 --> 0:33:42.200
<v Speaker 2>fresh stuff Farmer's Dog. Those are the two right now

0:33:42.200 --> 0:33:43.080
<v Speaker 2>I'm playing with.

0:33:43.280 --> 0:33:45.000
<v Speaker 1>I would Yeah, you can look at those bags and

0:33:45.000 --> 0:33:47.280
<v Speaker 1>I'll tell you exactly how many calories. Most of the

0:33:47.280 --> 0:33:49.160
<v Speaker 1>time on pet foods it says kill a cow so

0:33:49.320 --> 0:33:53.840
<v Speaker 1>k c al per cup or per ounce and that's

0:33:53.880 --> 0:33:54.800
<v Speaker 1>the same thing as a calorie.

0:33:55.280 --> 0:33:58.760
<v Speaker 2>Good. So good to know, yes on it. Oh, what

0:33:58.800 --> 0:34:00.000
<v Speaker 2>do you think about slow feeders?

0:34:00.280 --> 0:34:02.640
<v Speaker 1>I love them. I have the best slow feeder that

0:34:02.680 --> 0:34:06.080
<v Speaker 1>I use for my shepherd. It's made by yomphy y

0:34:06.240 --> 0:34:07.560
<v Speaker 1>o m p yump.

0:34:07.680 --> 0:34:10.160
<v Speaker 2>Okay, what else do you think about? Sorry, I'm stealing yourself,

0:34:10.440 --> 0:34:14.120
<v Speaker 2>no question. Someone told me that you shouldn't put the

0:34:14.160 --> 0:34:16.560
<v Speaker 2>bowl on the ground. You should actually elevate it for

0:34:16.640 --> 0:34:19.680
<v Speaker 2>digestion issues. Is that is that internet.

0:34:19.440 --> 0:34:21.759
<v Speaker 1>Trolls are going to come after me for this and

0:34:21.800 --> 0:34:23.359
<v Speaker 1>I think they know everything. But no, you can put

0:34:23.400 --> 0:34:23.719
<v Speaker 1>it on the.

0:34:23.640 --> 0:34:25.560
<v Speaker 2>Ground because I was getting yelled at for that.

0:34:25.640 --> 0:34:29.120
<v Speaker 1>There are no scientific studies to show that raising food bowls.

0:34:29.320 --> 0:34:31.120
<v Speaker 1>The reason they say that is that their stomachs are

0:34:31.200 --> 0:34:33.439
<v Speaker 1>less likely to flip if the food bowls are raised.

0:34:33.440 --> 0:34:35.279
<v Speaker 1>There's no data behind that.

0:34:35.360 --> 0:34:38.440
<v Speaker 2>Interesting, So you said stomach flip, Like what should what

0:34:38.480 --> 0:34:40.120
<v Speaker 2>does it mean? And what should I look out for? Like,

0:34:40.120 --> 0:34:43.160
<v Speaker 2>how do I know if my dog's stomach flips it's bad?

0:34:43.719 --> 0:34:46.640
<v Speaker 1>So it's really mainly in like our really deep chested

0:34:46.680 --> 0:34:51.080
<v Speaker 1>dogs that have all that extra space, and there's really

0:34:51.080 --> 0:34:53.080
<v Speaker 1>no rhyme or reasons why it happens. We just know

0:34:53.120 --> 0:34:56.480
<v Speaker 1>that some breeds are more predisposed to it, and for

0:34:56.560 --> 0:34:59.719
<v Speaker 1>whatever reason, that stomach expands and then it flips on

0:34:59.760 --> 0:35:03.200
<v Speaker 1>its and it cuts off blood supplies in the stomach

0:35:03.239 --> 0:35:07.479
<v Speaker 1>and it's a like dire emergency, life threatening condition. The

0:35:07.520 --> 0:35:10.719
<v Speaker 1>main symptom that we see is dogs that are wretching,

0:35:11.239 --> 0:35:13.880
<v Speaker 1>so they're like gagging trying to get something up and

0:35:13.920 --> 0:35:14.680
<v Speaker 1>nothing's coming out.

0:35:15.080 --> 0:35:17.279
<v Speaker 2>Ah, is it common or no.

0:35:17.400 --> 0:35:21.240
<v Speaker 1>It's the data. And like deep chested dogs like great Danes,

0:35:21.480 --> 0:35:24.319
<v Speaker 1>forty percent of great Danes will experience GDB. Is what

0:35:24.360 --> 0:35:24.759
<v Speaker 1>it's called.

0:35:25.160 --> 0:35:27.000
<v Speaker 2>Okay, I have one more question and then.

0:35:26.880 --> 0:35:28.879
<v Speaker 1>I'm done because ask away. I love this.

0:35:29.000 --> 0:35:31.520
<v Speaker 2>That's something that the podcast holsto we can't help it.

0:35:31.600 --> 0:35:34.720
<v Speaker 2>What are like, obviously there's symptoms of a human should

0:35:34.760 --> 0:35:37.240
<v Speaker 2>like go to the emergency room. What are some things

0:35:37.239 --> 0:35:38.920
<v Speaker 2>that is dog owners should be like if your dog's

0:35:39.000 --> 0:35:42.160
<v Speaker 2>doing this, like don't mess around? Go see go go? Yeah,

0:35:42.280 --> 0:35:43.320
<v Speaker 2>Like what are those things?

0:35:43.320 --> 0:35:46.879
<v Speaker 1>A active bleeding? Okay, they're actively bleeding? I take them

0:35:46.880 --> 0:35:50.560
<v Speaker 1>in Coughing I like to take pretty seriously a cough

0:35:50.640 --> 0:35:54.239
<v Speaker 1>and a dog can go from being nothing to being

0:35:54.280 --> 0:35:57.560
<v Speaker 1>something really bad pretty quickly. Coughing, by the way, can

0:35:57.600 --> 0:35:59.359
<v Speaker 1>sound like a gag. A lot of times people will

0:35:59.360 --> 0:36:00.680
<v Speaker 1>come in and be like, my dog, it sounds like

0:36:00.719 --> 0:36:02.879
<v Speaker 1>something stuck in its throat and it's like this, I'm

0:36:02.880 --> 0:36:04.759
<v Speaker 1>gonna make the cough noise and it's so embarrassing as

0:36:04.800 --> 0:36:08.640
<v Speaker 1>what like that is what it sounds like? Okay, and

0:36:08.719 --> 0:36:10.600
<v Speaker 1>then I kind of have this rule of three. So

0:36:10.840 --> 0:36:13.520
<v Speaker 1>if they're having vomiting or diarrhea, or something like that.

0:36:13.560 --> 0:36:15.920
<v Speaker 1>If it's three times in one day, three days in

0:36:15.920 --> 0:36:19.080
<v Speaker 1>a row, or they have three concurrent issues, you should

0:36:19.080 --> 0:36:20.960
<v Speaker 1>probably take them in to be seen. If it's like

0:36:21.040 --> 0:36:22.920
<v Speaker 1>one off throw up, I'm like, yeah, they'll be.

0:36:22.920 --> 0:36:24.839
<v Speaker 2>Fine, sure, But if you see three, then it's like.

0:36:24.800 --> 0:36:27.680
<v Speaker 1>Go, exactly, they're diarying, they're not eating, and they're vomiting.

0:36:27.760 --> 0:36:28.399
<v Speaker 1>Take them to the bet.

0:36:28.520 --> 0:36:30.720
<v Speaker 2>That's the only thing I learned from like Nikki, threes

0:36:30.760 --> 0:36:33.080
<v Speaker 2>are big. It's three days, three weeks, three months. If

0:36:33.120 --> 0:36:35.120
<v Speaker 2>you heard that one, which is can you so I

0:36:35.120 --> 0:36:37.200
<v Speaker 2>don't screw it up. Whether it's like three days when

0:36:37.239 --> 0:36:38.840
<v Speaker 2>you adopt a dog, you need to be with the

0:36:38.880 --> 0:36:42.000
<v Speaker 2>dog three days in your home, don't go anywhere nobody else,

0:36:42.000 --> 0:36:45.400
<v Speaker 2>et cetera. And it's like within three weeks they start

0:36:45.440 --> 0:36:48.120
<v Speaker 2>to find like they'll start to understand you're their person.

0:36:48.440 --> 0:36:50.840
<v Speaker 2>And that takes like three full months of like active

0:36:50.920 --> 0:36:54.160
<v Speaker 2>care for like them to like decompressed, decompressed, like be

0:36:54.239 --> 0:36:55.480
<v Speaker 2>at their homeostasis.

0:36:55.600 --> 0:36:59.600
<v Speaker 1>Yes, I that is so important when rescuing a dog

0:36:59.680 --> 0:37:03.000
<v Speaker 1>is to have that expectation that you're not going to

0:37:03.040 --> 0:37:04.799
<v Speaker 1>bring this dog in. You shouldn't go hit up the

0:37:04.840 --> 0:37:08.440
<v Speaker 1>patios in the parks right away, like allow them to

0:37:08.480 --> 0:37:11.959
<v Speaker 1>acclimate to your home and decompress, and that that takes time.

0:37:12.040 --> 0:37:14.759
<v Speaker 1>And so that's like the essentially what that that rule is,

0:37:14.800 --> 0:37:17.759
<v Speaker 1>and it's so important even like a year after adopting them,

0:37:17.760 --> 0:37:20.279
<v Speaker 1>like I'll still like notice them starting to just like

0:37:20.360 --> 0:37:22.319
<v Speaker 1>get even more comfortable. So it takes time.

0:37:22.400 --> 0:37:23.799
<v Speaker 2>It takes time time.

0:37:25.080 --> 0:37:27.560
<v Speaker 1>Okay. Number two on the list is it is flea

0:37:27.600 --> 0:37:31.879
<v Speaker 1>seasoned people. It is getting warm out. I can't tell

0:37:31.920 --> 0:37:33.759
<v Speaker 1>you how many owners have called me because they have

0:37:33.800 --> 0:37:36.680
<v Speaker 1>fleas on their pets. And I'm gonna throw my sister

0:37:36.760 --> 0:37:39.480
<v Speaker 1>under the bus again on this podcast, but she called

0:37:39.520 --> 0:37:41.840
<v Speaker 1>me the other day. I know she called me the

0:37:41.840 --> 0:37:44.160
<v Speaker 1>other day because her dog had a tick on it.

0:37:44.840 --> 0:37:47.439
<v Speaker 1>And my big no no here is don't buy flea

0:37:47.520 --> 0:37:53.000
<v Speaker 1>and tick prevention off of Amazon or Chewy. If it's

0:37:53.000 --> 0:37:54.759
<v Speaker 1>not prescription base. You do not want to buy the

0:37:54.760 --> 0:37:57.600
<v Speaker 1>over the counter stuff. It doesn't work. That's usually going

0:37:57.680 --> 0:37:59.400
<v Speaker 1>to be like sorry to call you out Frontline, but

0:37:59.440 --> 0:38:02.600
<v Speaker 1>like Frontline is the brand that I find that doesn't

0:38:02.600 --> 0:38:05.440
<v Speaker 1>work very well, and you're going to end up saving

0:38:05.480 --> 0:38:07.279
<v Speaker 1>a few dollars on the short end, but long end,

0:38:07.280 --> 0:38:09.160
<v Speaker 1>your pet's going to get fleas intecks and you're gonna

0:38:09.160 --> 0:38:11.040
<v Speaker 1>spend way more money trying to treat that. So it's

0:38:11.080 --> 0:38:13.640
<v Speaker 1>worth the extra five dollars to buy the prevention from

0:38:13.719 --> 0:38:14.279
<v Speaker 1>your met.

0:38:14.440 --> 0:38:17.200
<v Speaker 2>Wait, isn't the prevention thing you wear on your neck?

0:38:17.280 --> 0:38:19.960
<v Speaker 1>It can be the Ceresto collar, it can be around

0:38:20.000 --> 0:38:23.160
<v Speaker 1>the neck. I don't love that one as much.

0:38:24.239 --> 0:38:24.919
<v Speaker 2>What do you love?

0:38:25.080 --> 0:38:27.399
<v Speaker 1>I love Simperica Trio, which is.

0:38:27.560 --> 0:38:28.680
<v Speaker 2>That's the shot, isn't it?

0:38:28.800 --> 0:38:31.520
<v Speaker 1>No, that's pro Heart. Simpiricatrio is just an all in

0:38:31.560 --> 0:38:34.120
<v Speaker 1>one chew. It does flee ticks, heartworms, all in one

0:38:34.200 --> 0:38:35.080
<v Speaker 1>chew once a month.

0:38:35.560 --> 0:38:39.480
<v Speaker 2>That seems effective, super duper effective injection. I think. Is

0:38:39.520 --> 0:38:42.040
<v Speaker 2>Simperica ever done an injection? Never? Never?

0:38:43.000 --> 0:38:44.319
<v Speaker 1>You're thinking pro Heart.

0:38:44.400 --> 0:38:46.440
<v Speaker 2>Might have been pro Heart because we did it and

0:38:46.480 --> 0:38:49.200
<v Speaker 2>we almost lost one of our dogs. Really Yeah, he

0:38:49.239 --> 0:38:52.080
<v Speaker 2>went into like cribb of the reaction, didn't know what

0:38:52.120 --> 0:38:54.680
<v Speaker 2>to do. We had him on an ivy that I'm

0:38:54.719 --> 0:38:59.239
<v Speaker 2>a heart monitor. The gums went fully gray, like we

0:38:59.320 --> 0:39:02.560
<v Speaker 2>almost lost very scary. Yeah.

0:39:02.719 --> 0:39:04.240
<v Speaker 1>No, I mean, I'm sure there's a lot of listeners

0:39:04.239 --> 0:39:05.840
<v Speaker 1>out there that have their dogs on pro Heart. And

0:39:05.880 --> 0:39:08.600
<v Speaker 1>it's not to say that it's a blanket statement of

0:39:08.640 --> 0:39:12.560
<v Speaker 1>it being bad. It's just any vaccine, injection, anything we

0:39:12.640 --> 0:39:14.719
<v Speaker 1>give them. There's all in humans too. There's always the

0:39:14.800 --> 0:39:17.920
<v Speaker 1>risk of having a reaction to something, so he is

0:39:17.920 --> 0:39:19.520
<v Speaker 1>one that we would not want to give pro hard.

0:39:19.560 --> 0:39:22.080
<v Speaker 2>How do you for fleas and stuff? How do you?

0:39:22.960 --> 0:39:25.080
<v Speaker 2>How do you know if a dog has fleas?

0:39:25.160 --> 0:39:29.239
<v Speaker 1>They are super duper itchy, like they're unbearably itchy, and

0:39:29.280 --> 0:39:34.160
<v Speaker 1>then we I can do my examine and see you please, yeah, okay, okay,

0:39:34.239 --> 0:39:37.000
<v Speaker 1>you'll know, right, and then the fleas can like get.

0:39:36.920 --> 0:39:38.680
<v Speaker 2>You can't see like I couldn't see fleas.

0:39:38.719 --> 0:39:41.239
<v Speaker 1>You can see a flee you can mites like skin

0:39:41.360 --> 0:39:44.200
<v Speaker 1>mites you can't see, but fleas you can see. They're

0:39:44.239 --> 0:39:46.960
<v Speaker 1>like little teeny little like gnats, like the size of

0:39:47.000 --> 0:39:48.200
<v Speaker 1>a gnat.

0:39:48.600 --> 0:39:51.759
<v Speaker 2>Right, yeah, keep my eye. It's flea season.

0:39:51.600 --> 0:39:56.960
<v Speaker 1>Keeper, it's flea season. Okay, number three. It is starting

0:39:56.960 --> 0:39:59.719
<v Speaker 1>to warm up, as I just said, And my dogs

0:39:59.719 --> 0:40:02.719
<v Speaker 1>are like crazy. I bet Teddy, Well, Teddy might still

0:40:02.719 --> 0:40:04.799
<v Speaker 1>have his puppy coat, but he's got long hair, so

0:40:04.960 --> 0:40:08.719
<v Speaker 1>you'll notice hair thick, hair thick. You'll notice that in

0:40:08.760 --> 0:40:11.120
<v Speaker 1>the spring and the falls, when they do the majority

0:40:11.120 --> 0:40:15.200
<v Speaker 1>of their shedding, and I would not ferminate my dogs

0:40:16.320 --> 0:40:20.160
<v Speaker 1>this time of year really. Ever, the ferminating is a tool.

0:40:20.320 --> 0:40:22.480
<v Speaker 1>It's a d shedding tool that kind of pulls out

0:40:22.520 --> 0:40:26.600
<v Speaker 1>that undercoat. And if you go take your dog to

0:40:26.600 --> 0:40:28.600
<v Speaker 1>the groomer, the groomers will also say like, do you

0:40:28.600 --> 0:40:30.040
<v Speaker 1>want me to ferminate your dogs for you?

0:40:32.480 --> 0:40:32.640
<v Speaker 2>Thing?

0:40:33.960 --> 0:40:37.520
<v Speaker 1>Ferminating. I can't tell you how many times I see

0:40:37.560 --> 0:40:41.080
<v Speaker 1>dogs come in three to five days post erminating and

0:40:41.120 --> 0:40:43.680
<v Speaker 1>that tool causes like little micro tears in their skin

0:40:43.760 --> 0:40:46.520
<v Speaker 1>and it gets infected and they're so itchy. They have

0:40:46.640 --> 0:40:49.239
<v Speaker 1>like pustules all along their back. And it's not every

0:40:49.280 --> 0:40:51.840
<v Speaker 1>single time, but it's a lot. So I try not

0:40:51.880 --> 0:40:53.880
<v Speaker 1>to ferminate. Just get yourself a really good brush.

0:40:53.920 --> 0:40:54.799
<v Speaker 2>Don't ferminate at all.

0:40:54.840 --> 0:40:56.520
<v Speaker 1>Don't ferminate ever, I don't.

0:40:56.560 --> 0:40:57.440
<v Speaker 2>Oh, don't do that.

0:40:59.120 --> 0:41:01.600
<v Speaker 1>It's that tool so harsh and it like just scrapes

0:41:01.600 --> 0:41:02.400
<v Speaker 1>across their skin.

0:41:02.640 --> 0:41:06.759
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I didn't know that, So get a brush. Don't

0:41:06.840 --> 0:41:09.200
<v Speaker 2>use that for that clothing I use. Don't use that?

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<v Speaker 1>Is it well?

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<v Speaker 2>All? Look?

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<v Speaker 1>Is it? Is it a ferminator?

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<v Speaker 2>I think? So I'll send a picture and see what

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<v Speaker 2>you think. But yeah, it's like one of those ones

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<v Speaker 2>that it's got like a little I don't know, it's

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<v Speaker 2>like metal and it's got like the little baby claws,

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<v Speaker 2>and like when you do it, like he likes it, it

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<v Speaker 2>feels good. But then like a bunch.

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<v Speaker 1>Of hair, I'll take a look at it, you'll know, Like.

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<v Speaker 2>So what about shampoos and stuff. Don't use fermination champ

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<v Speaker 2>because aren't there like fermin champoo shampoo.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, no, d shinting champoo great, okay, anything like labeled

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<v Speaker 1>for a dog champoo. Wise, it's the tool. It's like

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<v Speaker 1>that metal on skin. Okay, it hurts the skin barrier

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<v Speaker 1>and then they can get infections after that.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like people always like, do you have any

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<v Speaker 1>brand deals from this podcast. I'm like, I'm literally up there.

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<v Speaker 1>Just don't do the ferminator, don't do the front line.

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<v Speaker 2>Let me tee you up with a potential brand opportunity here.

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<v Speaker 1>Number one treat Number one treats.

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<v Speaker 2>They're like top treat that you're like, that's a good treat.

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<v Speaker 1>I really like Stuart's freeze dried and I don't love

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<v Speaker 1>like freeze dried stuff, but these are the best. I

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<v Speaker 1>carry them with me to all my appointments. Stuart's freeze

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<v Speaker 1>dried liver treats. You can get them on I think

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<v Speaker 1>it's like a family owned company. You can get the

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<v Speaker 1>money Amazon.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, anything that you're like, absolutely not put that in

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<v Speaker 2>your dog's mouth.

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<v Speaker 1>Antlers, good one, anything hard like that. I can't I

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<v Speaker 1>see a fract right, a hard bone. Anything I can't

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<v Speaker 1>press my finger into out. I see so many fractured teeth.

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<v Speaker 2>What about those bones with like the like this, I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know what's your standard, like bone with like the

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<v Speaker 2>peanut butter stuff in there. I'm blanking on it.

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<v Speaker 1>Like a marrow bone. Yes, I mean those are also

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<v Speaker 1>really hard, like they can fracture their teeth and then

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<v Speaker 1>I got to go in and take the tooth out.

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<v Speaker 2>That's a process.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a process. I'm sweating, and you're spending thousand dollars.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, yes, so veinary care.

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<v Speaker 1>We're going to I can't wait.

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<v Speaker 2>I can't wait.

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<v Speaker 1>Yump again and plugging them y omp. They make really

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<v Speaker 1>good soft soft but they're silicone, so they're still like

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<v Speaker 1>they can chew on them. Really great toys and bones

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<v Speaker 1>for dogs to chew on. That's the tea.

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<v Speaker 2>That's great. Yeah, awesome, Well.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you so much for coming on.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you for having me. This has been great and

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<v Speaker 2>you'll have.

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<v Speaker 1>To keep us posted. Well, I'll let people know what

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<v Speaker 1>happens if you guys moved to New York. If Teddy

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<v Speaker 1>gets a CCL face and needs it face, there's a lot.

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<v Speaker 2>On the horizon. Maybe we'll do a part two one

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<v Speaker 2>day and he'll be here once he's trained.

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<v Speaker 1>In five years, Teddy will come years old. All right, Well,

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<v Speaker 1>this has been a great first episode of season three,

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<v Speaker 1>and we have so many more great episodes to come

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<v Speaker 1>this season. We've got Lauren Aigins, We've got Victoria Fuller,

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<v Speaker 1>we have the head of the swat team that trains

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<v Speaker 1>all the swat dogs for the Nashville PD, Nikki the

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<v Speaker 1>trainer who we've talked about one hundred times. This episode

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<v Speaker 1>is also coming back, So stay tuned because it's going

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<v Speaker 1>to be awesome and I can't wait for you guys

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<v Speaker 1>to listen to it.

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<v Speaker 2>H