Speaker 1: Yeah, you're listening to in the Vets Office with doctor
Speaker 1: Josie Horchak. All right, everyone, welcome back to in the
Speaker 1: Vets Office. I am your host, doctor Josie, and today
Speaker 1: we have a very special guest. You may know him
Speaker 1: from the Bachelorette, but there's a lot more to him
Speaker 1: than just reality TV. He's a best selling author, a
Speaker 1: business and financial expert, an entrepreneur, and the host of
Speaker 1: his own hit podcast, Trading Secrets, which I may or
Speaker 1: may not be going on in the very near future.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, and most importantly of all, and the reason
Speaker 1: he's here today is he is a dog dad. So
Speaker 1: the newly adopted Teddy Welcome to in the Vet's Office.
Speaker 1: Jason Tartet, thank you so much for having me. I'm
Speaker 1: happy you're here.
Speaker 2: This is cool. This is It's also like wild how
Speaker 2: many people we know like like this all just came
Speaker 2: together so quickly. It's kind of crazy small world out there.
Speaker 1: I know, Nashville especial.
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, it's like, what's not six people's like
Speaker 2: six s greous separations.
Speaker 1: One totally Yeah, I saw you adopted Teddy, and I
Speaker 1: messaged one of our really good mutual friends and I
Speaker 1: was like, hey, I met this guy, might be interested
Speaker 1: in a concierge. Vette like, let me reach out. So
Speaker 1: I text you and You're like, I might be moving.
Speaker 1: I don't really know. I'm like, no worries. Then I'm like, hey,
Speaker 1: we could pro rate this if you want, you know,
Speaker 1: me being a business girl, and.
Speaker 2: Why you said that? Okay, So let me tell you
Speaker 2: about you talked about red flag these texts right there?
Speaker 2: How many is that that is? Okay?
Speaker 1: Eight hundred and fourteen?
Speaker 2: Well, I am the worst at texting. I don't know.
Speaker 2: You said you can, ok we can pro rate.
Speaker 1: Let's talk.
Speaker 2: We can talk about I do New York City and
Speaker 2: Nashville like a pro ray from when I'm just here.
Speaker 1: Absolutely my clients close.
Speaker 2: The deal in trading secrets.
Speaker 1: You're going to close the deal. And and so then
Speaker 1: I'm sitting there and you haven't responded yet, and I'm like, oh, man,
Speaker 1: like I'm stressing about season three. I need more guests.
Speaker 1: So then I send you a voice memo. You're busy.
Speaker 1: I don't hear back from you. No big deal. That night,
Speaker 1: I go out like this guy.
Speaker 2: Guys, what of this sucks?
Speaker 1: So then we go out. I go out that evening,
Speaker 1: I meet up with my good girlfriend who's here in
Speaker 1: town with her sister, Kelly Flanagan, and you show up
Speaker 1: at the bar and I'm like, oh my god, this guy.
Speaker 1: I've texted him, I have voice memoed him, and now
Speaker 1: I'm at this bar. I look like I'm stalking this guy.
Speaker 1: I was like, hello, I'm doctor, Josie.
Speaker 2: Josie, I was like a doctor. I'm like, wait a
Speaker 2: sec what what like.
Speaker 1: Your the one has been blowing me up. Anyways, I'm
Speaker 1: glad that we met, and I promise I'm not a stalker.
Speaker 2: No, that is it's a I mean again, small world,
Speaker 2: right everyone, by the way, everybody and I have friends, wags, walks,
Speaker 2: my train, everyone in door as like you're the best,
Speaker 2: Like you're the best. My biggest issue, though, is I'm
Speaker 2: in this weird position where I'm trying to figure out
Speaker 2: am I going to move to New York City or
Speaker 2: am I stay in Nashville. And I'm like toying with
Speaker 2: all the ideas, but the idea of the concierge pet
Speaker 2: service makes like perfect sense, especially Teddy goes freaking nuts
Speaker 2: at the that. It's just I gotta feel like everything
Speaker 2: in my life, which is crazy, even bet services. You
Speaker 2: can't figure shit out until you have your foundation, right.
Speaker 2: So that's like I gotta get the stone down and
Speaker 2: then can like build from there. So we're gonna work it.
Speaker 2: We're gonna work something out there.
Speaker 1: I can't wait. And I want to talk about your
Speaker 1: move to New York and what they might look like
Speaker 1: for your Teddy as well.
Speaker 2: Yes, your opinion.
Speaker 1: Yes, we'll discuss before we dive into all things Teddy.
Speaker 1: I like to start this podcast with the case of
Speaker 1: the week and this kind of just like opens up
Speaker 1: what life is like in the trenches, if you will,
Speaker 1: for the listeners. And so this particular case, there was
Speaker 1: a guy, this is probably about a year ago. A
Speaker 1: guy was walking his dog off leash in each EASTU leash,
Speaker 1: East Nashville.
Speaker 2: I think I know this story.
Speaker 1: Do you know this?
Speaker 2: I only said like four things and I think I know.
Speaker 1: Oh boy, you know what happens next?
Speaker 2: Yeah, isn't this this how small Nashville is?
Speaker 1: Okay? If this story is right, well I'm going to
Speaker 1: be shocked. If you know this.
Speaker 2: Maybe it is one of your class classes that heats
Speaker 2: it up, okay, because it's a successful thing.
Speaker 1: Well, this is before I was concierge. But still, oh,
Speaker 1: great guy, great guy. Okay. So he's walking his dog
Speaker 1: off leash. And this, by the way, for everyone listening,
Speaker 1: I don't care how good your dog is, Like drivers
Speaker 1: are crazy. They still want to like sniff and get
Speaker 1: into things. Put your dog on a leash. It like
Speaker 1: gives me heart palpitation seeing them running around off leash. Anyways,
Speaker 1: this dog, he notices is sniffing in a bush. He
Speaker 1: goes to kind of see, like, what are you looking? Like,
Speaker 1: what are you sniffing at? And the dog pops back up.
Speaker 1: He has like something plastic in his mouth, and he
Speaker 1: sees plastic and white. The dog fwallows it. This happens
Speaker 1: all the time. He's like, maybe it's trash, maybe it's
Speaker 1: a napkin. We'll see, we'll see. They get home about
Speaker 1: a half hour later. The dog is super agitated. He's
Speaker 1: pacing around the house. He's just acting really strange. And
Speaker 1: so he calls us and I tells us what's going on,
Speaker 1: and we say, yeah, you should definitely bring him in.
Speaker 1: Let us take a look at him. The dog comes
Speaker 1: to the clinic and he has the highest heart rate
Speaker 1: I have ever heard in a dog. It was like
Speaker 1: three hundred beats for a minute. He is panting full
Speaker 1: body trimmers, pupils are huge. He has a temperature through
Speaker 1: the roof and and a young dog. We always think,
Speaker 1: what have you gotten into? What kind of talks in
Speaker 1: We drug test him and come to find out he
Speaker 1: an entire bag of cocaine.
Speaker 2: Stop it, This is not the story I heard.
Speaker 1: I was gonna say that the insane just.
Speaker 2: In the park there's a bag of cocaine sitting around it.
Speaker 1: It was on the streets. He was walking down the sidewalk.
Speaker 1: And we have seen this time and time again a
Speaker 1: lot of times. It'll be like an edible, like weed.
Speaker 1: Edibles for whatever reason will be like dropped and on
Speaker 1: the street. This is definitely my first time of a
Speaker 1: dog eating an entire bag of cocaine.
Speaker 2: What do you do well the dog?
Speaker 1: I mean, you can give it like special muscle relaxes,
Speaker 1: but we had to hospitalize. We sent it right to
Speaker 1: the er, to the ICU. They do like tons of
Speaker 1: ivy fluids to kind of flush the elter system. He
Speaker 1: ended up like seizing for multiple days in a row,
Speaker 1: like full blown overdose. And I'm like, I want to
Speaker 1: say that he did great and went on to be fine,
Speaker 1: but he didn't. It did not end well. I'm so
Speaker 1: sorry that I brought you to this podcast to tell
Speaker 1: you this horrible story. But I think that this just
Speaker 1: really reiterates how important it is to have your pet
Speaker 1: on a leash, and even when they're on a leash,
Speaker 1: like keep an eye on like what they're getting into,
Speaker 1: because like you do see this.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm I'm a huge leash guy, just like I
Speaker 2: think you have to be. That is so sad. The well,
Speaker 2: sorry that I was gonna say that I thought it was.
Speaker 2: It was the same start of the story. Very well
Speaker 2: trained dog, service animal, smartest breeds out there, no leash,
Speaker 2: which is typical I guess for this owner. And he
Speaker 2: went up to a girl there at the park and
Speaker 2: he's playing with the girl and the girl was like
Speaker 2: it was out of sight of the owner, I guess,
Speaker 2: And the girl said he was the dog was amazing.
Speaker 2: And then he gets distracted and all of a sudden
Speaker 2: he hears shots, gunshots.
Speaker 1: Oh I know the story too.
Speaker 2: Yeah, this was Percy Warner Park. And he goes over
Speaker 2: and then and then guy that was nearby said that
Speaker 2: he felt threatened by the dog and the girl was like,
Speaker 2: this was the sweetest dog in the world. That dog
Speaker 2: did nothing. I was the eyewitness. There was nothing.
Speaker 1: There were multiple eyewitnesses.
Speaker 2: Multiple eye witnesses saying there was no attack, There was
Speaker 2: no nothing, and this guy took out a gun and
Speaker 2: killed the dog, probably broad daylight at a very like
Speaker 2: well known safe part, which is just it's I mean,
Speaker 2: there's a lot to tackle within that situation, right, Like,
Speaker 2: there's a lot of different areas you could talk through,
Speaker 2: but you know it does there's the theme from the
Speaker 2: other one is.
Speaker 1: Like leash exactly.
Speaker 2: Obviously there's a lot more issues in that circumstance, but
Speaker 2: that's yeah, there's so much factor, yeah, unpacked there, but
Speaker 2: the leash thing, it's really.
Speaker 1: Speaking of leash. Yes, talk about Teddy.
Speaker 2: Talk about Teddy Man.
Speaker 1: So all the listeners know I do a ton with
Speaker 1: wags and walks and that is where you got Teddy from. Yes,
Speaker 1: do you know? Tell us about him, like what's his age?
Speaker 1: Do you know his breed? And what is his backstory?
Speaker 2: Okay, so he is he's ten months when I got him.
Speaker 2: I've had him for a month now, so eleven months.
Speaker 2: That's all prediction, right, you guys decide that based on teeth. Yeah, okay,
Speaker 2: so that's what they told me based on teeth. His
Speaker 2: back His backstory is wild. I actually haven't shared this yet.
Speaker 2: He he in November, and I wish I had the
Speaker 2: notes in front of me so I got this perfectly correct.
Speaker 2: But in November, his owner was arrested, and when he
Speaker 2: was arrested, it was a pretty serious charge. And at
Speaker 2: that point that owner had the two options to give
Speaker 2: the dog up.
Speaker 1: Do you know what the charge was? No, like, did
Speaker 1: he commit homicide or something?
Speaker 2: I like, trust me, I'm gonna find out.
Speaker 1: We have to know.
Speaker 2: Because I don't have any information. I'm gonna I'm gonna
Speaker 2: go true crime because I love true grind. So he
Speaker 2: gets arrested, it's a serious charge, and then he has
Speaker 2: two options to surrender the dog. It'll go to a
Speaker 2: shelter to rescue, or a family member can take the dog.
Speaker 2: He wouldn't do either option. As a result of that,
Speaker 2: he then has to go in a specific type of shelter.
Speaker 2: In this shelter from when I was told it was
Speaker 2: an outdoor shelter. Now I had a roof, but it
Speaker 2: was outdoors. So from November to February. Teddy was only
Speaker 2: in this shelter outdoors through the entire winter until a
Speaker 2: decision was made on the case. He was held in custody.
Speaker 2: A decision was made in February.
Speaker 1: I believe he was like in doggy foster care.
Speaker 2: He was in doggy foster care. Yeah, except yeah, sounds
Speaker 2: even like a little bit worse. Yeah, And they I
Speaker 2: have pictures of him like this in this like small
Speaker 2: area and it's not great. And then when the when
Speaker 2: the guy was found guilty, that is when Waggs was
Speaker 2: able to like the Wags had their eye on him.
Speaker 2: The second he was found guilty, Weggs could take him.
Speaker 2: And it was the day that he arrived. It was
Speaker 2: the next day I came in. So that's like, are you.
Speaker 1: Just going there? Were you looking for a dog or
Speaker 1: are you going to do like social media stuff? How
Speaker 1: did that?
Speaker 2: Yeah? I had my ex fiance and I had two
Speaker 2: dogs together, and I don't want to get into that
Speaker 2: on this podcast, but long and short, they're in a good,
Speaker 2: healthy and happy place with her and I hadn't seen
Speaker 2: them since May of last year, and so I have
Speaker 2: been like really like having a void in my heart
Speaker 2: for dogs and It was February thirteenth, and the mailman
Speaker 2: left two dog bones at my front door and I
Speaker 2: was like I can't. I like, like, I literally and
Speaker 2: I took a video of it. I'm like, I'm dying
Speaker 2: right now. And Wags and Walks actually reached out. They're like, hey,
Speaker 2: why don't you come volunteer and just come spend some
Speaker 2: time with dogs and like maybe they'll put a smile
Speaker 2: on your face on Valentine's Day. So I was like,
Speaker 2: you know what, You're right, And typically my days are
Speaker 2: just warped and packed and back to back meetings. I
Speaker 2: canceled everything and I was like, I'm coming in tomorrow.
Speaker 2: And so I went into Wags when I went John
Speaker 2: Gurney and we went to go we played with all
Speaker 2: these dogs, and then I met Teddy that day and
Speaker 2: that was the again. He got there the day before.
Speaker 2: He wasn't even registered in their system, and I was like,
Speaker 2: oh my god, shit, shit, it's not good, this is
Speaker 2: not good. It's so funny media. Oh. It was the
Speaker 2: second I put my eyes on him and I was like,
Speaker 2: oh no, oh no.
Speaker 1: I don't know if love it first sight for humans exists, maybe,
Speaker 1: but with dogs.
Speaker 2: It was instantly, I was like, I looked at him like,
Speaker 2: oh no, I walked away. I did it like that,
Speaker 2: and I'm like, ohh And I came out and we
Speaker 2: had soul plays. So I'm like, all right, take a breather.
Speaker 2: And I promised myself I would if anything, I would
Speaker 2: walk out, take a day or two. Took a day
Speaker 2: or two, went back to play with him for like
Speaker 2: three hours, walked them everything. I'm like, he's mine and
Speaker 2: so that was like, that was yo. His breed. He
Speaker 2: looks like a gold but he's definitely got something else.
Speaker 2: No way. His DNA testing's in right now, so I
Speaker 2: don't even know what he is. But I don't know.
Speaker 2: Maybe Collie, I don't know. Everyone's got a different opinion
Speaker 2: on it.
Speaker 1: How how much does he weigh?
Speaker 2: He weighs he's tall, Like off the ground, he's tall,
Speaker 2: but he's around he's around sixty pounds.
Speaker 1: Does he have on his back feet? Does he have
Speaker 1: back do claws?
Speaker 2: Yes?
Speaker 1: I could he does.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I could see him having great Pyrenees And.
Speaker 2: That's what that's what the Wag's found. That's what Catherine said.
Speaker 1: I could see that. I was like, what, I've never
Speaker 1: seen him in person, but.
Speaker 2: That's a that's a big dog, big dog.
Speaker 1: And they were they are bred to protect chicken coops.
Speaker 1: Oh interesting, yeah, I know, or like farm animals.
Speaker 2: So what would that mean behaviorally?
Speaker 1: Behaviorally, it means that he they're a very smart he
Speaker 1: is smart, probably too smart for it's a good yeah,
Speaker 1: and that they just can be a little bit more
Speaker 1: like like they're just can be protective.
Speaker 2: They're protective, they're very stimulated, they're very he's very alpha. Yeah, okay, yeah,
Speaker 2: we've had gon have to check that. No, okay, so recently.
Speaker 1: Yeah, was he neutered at wags?
Speaker 2: Yes?
Speaker 1: Okay, interesting? And how I mean he's ten months old.
Speaker 1: I have this theory that dogs come from rescue and
Speaker 1: they either come to you a little bit more like mellow,
Speaker 1: and then as they get more comfortable, they're like let's
Speaker 1: go and they're crazy, or they come and they're like
Speaker 1: super hyper stimulated already like really on edge and then
Speaker 1: they start to calm down. Yes, how is he?
Speaker 2: He is the definition of extremely stimulated, like he is
Speaker 2: a wild man. He is. Oh yeah, and you could tell,
Speaker 2: like right, dogs are packed animals. He definitely whatever packed
Speaker 2: he was in, he was the leader and you could
Speaker 2: tell it's his intention and energy is like so kind
Speaker 2: and sweet and fun and smiley. But he is also
Speaker 2: never been told no in his whole life. So like
Speaker 2: you could tell he reat wherever he was with this
Speaker 2: dude that's in jail. That dude got his show run
Speaker 2: by Rango, which.
Speaker 1: Was Commitment murder Y Ringo's the Box.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Rango was the bike. Rango's got street red and
Speaker 2: now he's teddy. But yeah, so he has a lot
Speaker 2: of training to be done. But he's such a sweet,
Speaker 2: like kind boy too, Like he's got such a soft
Speaker 2: side to him.
Speaker 1: I we were talking about this a little bit before,
Speaker 1: but I tell owners, it is so common that they
Speaker 1: come to me and they have a new puppy and
Speaker 1: the puppy is like eight, ten, twelve weeks old. They're like,
Speaker 1: it's so cute, it'd sleep so much. I have the
Speaker 1: perfect puppy. They come back six months later and they're like,
Speaker 1: what have I done? This dog is a monster, like
Speaker 1: I won't get me, help me, And I like, this
Speaker 1: is very normal from months eight to twelve, maybe him
Speaker 1: like eighteen, they're just on a tear.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're exactly, And he wasn't you know, he just
Speaker 2: wasn't the way so Nicki. The way Nikki kind of
Speaker 2: explained it, She's like, for the for.
Speaker 1: The listeners, Nicki is the trainer that we had on
Speaker 1: season two. She's actually coming back.
Speaker 2: Oh she's yeah, she's so good.
Speaker 1: She's amazing. People loved her. They were like, bring her back.
Speaker 2: Yeah, oh my gosh.
Speaker 1: The people the listeners know Nicki.
Speaker 2: Yeah. When she talks, I don't say. I'm just like yes,
Speaker 2: like writing notes, just keep telling me. I think the
Speaker 2: way she explains it is very helpful too, because it's
Speaker 2: the psychology and then the action which is really helpful.
Speaker 2: But what she was saying was that like thin, imagine
Speaker 2: like a human like I just dropped, like name a
Speaker 2: random city in a country anywhere, Tokyo, Copenhagen, Okay, Copenhagen, Tokyo,
Speaker 2: wherever you put yourself there, and you're just like go
Speaker 2: figure it out. You'd be like look, you know, you'd
Speaker 2: be stimulating looking everywhere do I go? What's the currency?
Speaker 2: What's the restaurant? Where do I stay? You just like
Speaker 2: you don't know, ha ha, It's like that's your dog
Speaker 2: right now. And imagine you know Tokyo, Copenhagen, and I
Speaker 2: bring like the best a very good friend who knows everything.
Speaker 2: They speak dual languages, they know the spots in the restaurants.
Speaker 2: What are you gonna do. You're gonna let them lead
Speaker 2: and then you're gonna follow their lead and then they're
Speaker 2: gonna show you everywhere and you're gonna be safe and sound.
Speaker 2: This is what the dog needs, Like you have to
Speaker 2: be the leader and these dogs love you. Most dogs
Speaker 2: don't respect their owners, and you have to develop a
Speaker 2: respect with your dog. And so we've gone through a
Speaker 2: lot of like intense training, everything from create training to
Speaker 2: opening the door letting him come out when he's told
Speaker 2: to come out. But then it's like this constant re
Speaker 2: establishing relevance, right, which is like, so he gets out
Speaker 2: of the crate, Now we got to re establish relevance.
Speaker 2: Then we got to open the door, make sure he
Speaker 2: doesn't go out of the door without being told. Then
Speaker 2: the leash training, and there's been a lot of ups
Speaker 2: and downs and challenges and lefts and rights. But the
Speaker 2: biggest thing that we're working on is he's mouthy. And
Speaker 2: I didn't realize that, like if a dog is like
Speaker 2: what Nikki had said, if a dog is biting your
Speaker 2: your leash. It's an extension of you. It's like they're
Speaker 2: biting you. And if they're putting your fingers or hand
Speaker 2: in their mouth in any capacity, even if it's like
Speaker 2: playful and like they think it's a toy, like they're
Speaker 2: not biting to hurt, but it's like like it's the
Speaker 2: ultimate sign of disrespect, like they that doesn't happen. And
Speaker 2: so he does that. And then he also his other
Speaker 2: thing that he's what we're really working on, is cars
Speaker 2: come by and he will rip after a car like
Speaker 2: it's a moving toy. So which is a lot, right,
Speaker 2: because the consequences of both of those actions, if not
Speaker 2: appropriately handled, could be severe injury or death or where
Speaker 2: whatever else could be from that. So those are like
Speaker 2: two things we're taken like super seriously.
Speaker 1: That's so interesting. I love the analogy of going to
Speaker 1: a new city being totally overstimulated and we are there.
Speaker 1: It's so interesting because our first instinct is, Oh, I'm
Speaker 1: just gonna love you, just going to love you through it,
Speaker 1: but they don't. They want your love, of course, and
Speaker 1: I think there's like a balance, but we also have
Speaker 1: to be their structure, right, which means we have to
Speaker 1: set boundaries and we have to you know, be kind
Speaker 1: of strict. And that is so I see owners struggle
Speaker 1: with that.
Speaker 2: I struggle with that whole hard. I'm like, I don't know,
Speaker 2: it's good. It's got to be good raining for a
Speaker 2: child because it is like say, like being like a
Speaker 2: little tough on him, yes, and resetting boundaries and doing
Speaker 2: things I know that are irritating him, but for his
Speaker 2: best interest and mine, it's so hard.
Speaker 1: And when we have human children, Yeah, thank you, Nikki,
Speaker 1: we are ready.
Speaker 2: Yes, thank you, Nikki. We appreciate it. Basic because he's mouth.
Speaker 2: The one thing that we're working on is like the figure.
Speaker 1: Eight, which is I don't know this, okay.
Speaker 2: So it's you take essentially you take the the the
Speaker 2: lea the lead. It's not the leash. It's like that
Speaker 2: lead thing you know, the rope that these yeah, no, no,
Speaker 2: no no, it's just essentially it's a leash. So it's
Speaker 2: a leash, but it's just a rope, okay. And you
Speaker 2: you bring it enough of it down under what do
Speaker 2: you call this the muzzle the muzzle and you you
Speaker 2: turn it and then you put the it's the rope
Speaker 2: over the muzzle. So it's just it's just a rope.
Speaker 2: It's like one like kind of like leash over the muzzle,
Speaker 2: but it's like tying the back and it helps them
Speaker 2: with getting comfortable that they don't have control. It doesn't hurt,
Speaker 2: doesn't create any pain, but it's a new way of
Speaker 2: like when we're walking, you're not going to pick up
Speaker 2: that stick, Like you're not going to do that. And
Speaker 2: it's a constant theme with Nicki's training of like you
Speaker 2: have to lead, you have to be in front, but
Speaker 2: also you're almost like a horse, like your body language,
Speaker 2: everything you do, they're reading. So if I'm on my phone,
Speaker 2: he's going to know I'm distracted. He's going to start
Speaker 2: leading all these little things. So like the thing that's
Speaker 2: the most annoying is practicing is literally me walking a
Speaker 2: foot forward. If he gets in front of me, we
Speaker 2: turn around, just back and forth, so he knows at
Speaker 2: all times he needs to be behind me. So there's
Speaker 2: a bunch of stuff.
Speaker 1: But my German shepherd went to Nicki and so he's
Speaker 1: upstairs right now sleeping because we just spent all morning
Speaker 1: out front. If he gets ahead of me, we turn
Speaker 1: around and go back the other direction. If he has
Speaker 1: made so many strides, but there's still times where he's like,
Speaker 1: oh another dog, yeah, and yeah. I mean it's like
Speaker 1: you're like, I'm burning a hole in the sidewalk from
Speaker 1: going five paces forward five paces back.
Speaker 2: It's but it's like the patients and the consistency. One
Speaker 2: thing I thought was interesting. I don't know if I
Speaker 2: don't think she'd care if I shared this. I just
Speaker 2: found it fascinating is when she's doing this. What I
Speaker 2: love is she's explaining the psychology of like what's happening
Speaker 2: to the doc and he was being we were going
Speaker 2: she was he was throwing a fit, biting the leash
Speaker 2: and like trying to play tug of war, and she
Speaker 2: went down got his energy. It was a whole thing.
Speaker 2: He was being a brat and she was doing this
Speaker 2: thing with his mouth and it didn't create pain, but
Speaker 2: it created this signal. I was like, what are you doing?
Speaker 2: What is that? I've never seen that, And she's like,
Speaker 2: when I do this, he's going to instantly stop. And
Speaker 2: I was like, almost like imagine a pressure point, but
Speaker 2: not a pressure point. I asked her to explain it.
Speaker 2: She explained it and on the on a dog's muzzle
Speaker 2: like on the top muzzle. I don't know what you
Speaker 2: call that the upper what do you refer to that?
Speaker 1: A snout?
Speaker 2: Yeah, the snout, but like that where their teeth are
Speaker 2: on the top versus the bottom, Like what would you
Speaker 2: call this versus?
Speaker 1: This is the maxilla?
Speaker 2: Okay, so you open their muzzle the maxilla. Yeah, And
Speaker 2: she just put her hand in the maxilla and then
Speaker 2: the fingers kind of press stuff on the gums, just
Speaker 2: the maxilla. And I was like, tell me more, and
Speaker 2: she's like, well, and I hope I get this right.
Speaker 2: This is what she said. I believe is when dogs fight,
Speaker 2: a dog is like kind of winning because that's where
Speaker 2: they're gonna bite. So it's it's almost like the equivalent
Speaker 2: of like if you're if you're in a fight with
Speaker 2: a man or a woman or whatever, yeah, and they
Speaker 2: put you in a headlock, and you're just like, Okay,
Speaker 2: if someone puts me in a head lock, I'm fine. I'm
Speaker 2: not going I'm not like bleeding, I'm not that, but
Speaker 2: I'm like, okay, I gotta submit.
Speaker 1: You got white yeah.
Speaker 2: Like all right, white flag, like you you won this
Speaker 2: and so things like that.
Speaker 1: That just you wouldn't know and we don't learn that
Speaker 1: from that school. I don't learn that.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, So next time I'm going to fight with my sister,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna stick my hands in her mask. I'll show
Speaker 1: her Morgan's shaking her head at me. Carla, if you're listening,
Speaker 1: watch out. That is funny. I mean, that is really
Speaker 1: interesting though, and a lot of it is just and
Speaker 1: I do love it. She explains the psychology because a
Speaker 1: lot of times you're like, do this, do that, but
Speaker 1: you're like, why am I doing this? It doesn't really
Speaker 1: make sense. When you can think through it, it's so
Speaker 1: much more helpful.
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly. And she like even things like the couches,
Speaker 2: Like dogs don't know what a couch is. We allow
Speaker 2: them to get a couch. Once they get on a couch,
Speaker 2: they are rated our like e ie with us. Yeah,
Speaker 2: And so she's like, if you get to the point
Speaker 2: that the dog come in the couch, it's got to
Speaker 2: be earned, right, you know. And so like they sit
Speaker 2: and then you let them come and if you want
Speaker 2: them off, there's a demand for them to get off.
Speaker 2: So it's the whole thing is just fascinating, but it's a.
Speaker 1: Huge learning experience humans.
Speaker 2: Oh my, and I also realized like, how you know
Speaker 2: I've had dogs in the past, and I'm just like, wow,
Speaker 2: how much I.
Speaker 1: Was not I am a horrible pet owner. It really makes.
Speaker 2: You think and I know, I know, So it's a lot.
Speaker 1: How is it going. When we had first talked about him,
Speaker 1: he was limping a little bit.
Speaker 2: Yes, so he still is. It's interesting because like his
Speaker 2: limp comes on and off. We have and this was
Speaker 2: my last gold in. Poor guy was kicked in the
Speaker 2: hip and was found in the streets. Bro yeah, and
Speaker 2: found in the streets with a broken hip. He got
Speaker 2: surgery and then we rescued him. Because of that, I'm
Speaker 2: hyper aware of the hips on a dog, like whenever
Speaker 2: am I walking him too much? Is he on the
Speaker 2: concrete versus the grass? Because I would always want to
Speaker 2: if he dragged it. So when I first picked him up,
Speaker 2: I was like, something's up with his hip, But it
Speaker 2: wasn't too drastic, and then it started to get worse,
Speaker 2: but then it got better with pain, medication and inflammation.
Speaker 2: So we got an X ray done. The x ray
Speaker 2: is a big question mark because the vet said it's good.
Speaker 2: The radiologist said it shows like an ACL tear. Now
Speaker 2: we have wags has orthopedic that they suggest doctor Nunley.
Speaker 2: Doctor Nunley is like, it's inconclusive. So I have three
Speaker 2: different opinions from oh, I got to send those to
Speaker 2: you want to gain your opinion. Three opinions and all
Speaker 2: of them are up in the air. So what we're
Speaker 2: doing is doctor Dunley is I guess he works all over,
Speaker 2: So we're setting an appointment with him for Teddy to
Speaker 2: go in to see if there's an ACL tear.
Speaker 1: We can feel it. Yeah, it's so interesting because in humans,
Speaker 1: well I guess, and animals too. When we take X rays,
Speaker 1: we can see how does the femur fit into the
Speaker 1: hip socket, and that tells us do they have hYP
Speaker 1: dysplasia or not. That's super easy to rule in or out.
Speaker 1: But at ligament tear we instead of ACL, we call
Speaker 1: it CCL and dog that's right, I know something else
Speaker 1: it's an ACL same thing. We can't really see that.
Speaker 1: We can't see that ligament on X ray. Soft tissue
Speaker 1: structures don't really radiate like bones do, and so we
Speaker 1: can only see evidence of a CCL rupture. So like,
Speaker 1: is there a little bit of swelling which we can
Speaker 1: see on X ray? Is are the bones like slightly
Speaker 1: out of position. But we can't say, oh, yeah, slam dunk,
Speaker 1: the CCL is torn. So we do put a lot
Speaker 1: of weight on our exam and when we move the
Speaker 1: different bones in the leg, if there's a lot of
Speaker 1: we call it laxity, but like a lot of extra movement,
Speaker 1: then that would be give us more evidence that yeah,
Speaker 1: this probably is a torn CCL.
Speaker 2: Do dogs do MRIs.
Speaker 1: They Doris, would you do an MRI? You absolutely could.
Speaker 1: I would say yeah. I would say, we're gonna know
Speaker 1: by the time we do the exam and take the
Speaker 1: X right, it's gonna be pretty solid. If it ever
Speaker 1: gets to the point where I've had a dog who
Speaker 1: had this horrible swelling in his front leg. We didn't
Speaker 1: know why we couldn't get to the bottom of it,
Speaker 1: and we did an MRI. So we do have that
Speaker 1: as an option. But you're that's like way more expensive
Speaker 1: than an X ray an exam.
Speaker 2: Yeah. What's interesting is like it's hard. I don't know.
Speaker 2: I guess we'll have to see because there's some days
Speaker 2: he's not phase it all.
Speaker 1: On other days he limps a little bit, say a
Speaker 1: little bit, is he like toe touching? Like what does
Speaker 1: that mean like limping on his toe or is he
Speaker 1: limping like not putting any weight on it at all?
Speaker 2: Toe touching? Okay, but like that same day he'll be
Speaker 2: doing bunny jumps fifteen feet in the air, like trying
Speaker 2: to run, and I'm slowing them out there. We're pretty
Speaker 2: since I went to the doctor, we're like really slowing
Speaker 2: down exercise a little bit because they suggested two to
Speaker 2: three weeks. You know, obviously he's a teenage wild man,
Speaker 2: so give him some love and get him out there.
Speaker 2: But like, let's let's keep an eye on it, and
Speaker 2: then he's taking anti inflammation stuff.
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, I mean, and so even if they tear
Speaker 1: their acls, it doesn't have to be a full tear.
Speaker 1: It could be a partial tear too, That's one thing
Speaker 1: to think about. And so with that it can kind
Speaker 1: of wax and weig like my husband Cody toward his
Speaker 1: ACL and then went scuba diving the week after. So
Speaker 1: they can tear it and still get around.
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 1: So I would say I wouldn't let that like sway
Speaker 1: me one way or another.
Speaker 2: Okay, but it should I mean, it should get like
Speaker 2: if it's a tear, we'll find out here. So the
Speaker 2: next week or two it should get fixed though.
Speaker 1: Right, yes, and a young, young, one active, million trillion
Speaker 1: percent fix it. Yeah, absolutely, because if you don't fix
Speaker 1: it then they're really predisposed to arthritis in their joint.
Speaker 1: They kind of hobble around their whole life. And we
Speaker 1: have such like the surgery now as like so it's
Speaker 1: a well oiled machine. They do great. Definitely worth doing.
Speaker 2: The idea of him two weeks though, like not being
Speaker 2: able to walk, it breaks that.
Speaker 1: It's like twelve weeks.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, twelve weeks.
Speaker 1: It's twelve weeks of recovery.
Speaker 2: The first this poor guy, he's got so much. He's
Speaker 2: going to the therapist for dogs. He's gonna need to
Speaker 2: talk to someone.
Speaker 1: Sounds like he could use a concier therapist. I do
Speaker 1: not geting. I would. I can talk to him.
Speaker 2: Can you tell me.
Speaker 1: About your feelings?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 1: So really the first two to four weeks on a
Speaker 1: leash in and out to go potty right back inside.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, that is a form of torture for
Speaker 2: this dog.
Speaker 1: And then four weeks you can put them on a
Speaker 1: leash and like go around the block of eight weeks
Speaker 1: a little bit more twelve weeks back to normal activity.
Speaker 2: I really hope it's not Tor.
Speaker 1: I hope so too. And honestly, I mean he's so
Speaker 1: young and rambunctious right now. Like you, it's okay, you're
Speaker 1: not like neglecting by not doing anything, especially since he's
Speaker 1: not limping on a like regular basis.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we're in. It's all we're doing is waiting for
Speaker 2: this with yes, which is gonna be the next week
Speaker 2: or two.
Speaker 1: That Jeff, that's doctor Nunley's heirs. Name is Jeff.
Speaker 2: Oh Jeff.
Speaker 1: Shout out to Jeff.
Speaker 2: Let's go tell us what's.
Speaker 1: Going on that he needs you. He needs a therapist,
Speaker 1: an orthopedist. Action here got him for one month.
Speaker 2: One month. He gets more packages than me. He's got
Speaker 2: a lot of fans out there. People love speeches. It's
Speaker 2: like a speech. They love to.
Speaker 1: Start monetizing on my dogs.
Speaker 2: Honestly, there's like when I walked out to come here,
Speaker 2: FedEx showed up and then there's like four or five packages.
Speaker 2: Everyone was for him. Everyone.
Speaker 1: This is amazing.
Speaker 2: He is just thriving. Get up here.
Speaker 1: Yeah, camera putting you on social media?
Speaker 2: Okay to know, Yeah, she's doing she should be doing.
Speaker 2: She could do a lot.
Speaker 1: She really could.
Speaker 2: They're actually for the agency that I own. We some
Speaker 2: dogs like Doug the Pug, or I mean, Doug the
Speaker 2: Pug kills it. Dog the Pug Like Doug the Pug
Speaker 2: makes the og. Majority of humans in this world does.
Speaker 1: And he's like he has more followers than Miss Peaches.
Speaker 1: He's the og. Doug has a new little sister named Dory.
Speaker 2: Yes, I saw it, Doug her now, I know.
Speaker 1: They're so cute.
Speaker 2: Cute.
Speaker 1: Okay, so you're thinking about moving to New York City,
Speaker 1: which is no secret. Yeah, and how will I mean
Speaker 1: is Teddy like a deciding factor in that, like, oho,
Speaker 1: I want a yard for him in Nashville or yeah?
Speaker 1: Is that playing into your decision at all?
Speaker 2: It's definitely playing into my decision. And I brought him
Speaker 2: to New York already, and he did great New York,
Speaker 2: which is good. He'd like acclimated pretty well and we
Speaker 2: didn't have any issues or anything. If I did live
Speaker 2: in New York, it would have to be like Park,
Speaker 2: would have to be within extreme close proximity. I think
Speaker 2: what I'm where I'm leaning towards right now is buying
Speaker 2: a place in Nashville, having a nice backyard, spending a
Speaker 2: lot of time here and then having more of like
Speaker 2: an office space in New York that I could get
Speaker 2: the best podcast, have an area to cook and sleep,
Speaker 2: so I could kind of like work as like a
Speaker 2: an office and that I could do both. I'll go
Speaker 2: up there to work a little bit and then come
Speaker 2: back here to kind of relax and have residency here.
Speaker 1: That's smart tax purposes too. Yeah, listening, just yeah, look away.
Speaker 1: We I lived in downtown Chicago prior to moving here
Speaker 1: and took care of all the pets in downtown Chicago,
Speaker 1: which is just as urban as New York City, and
Speaker 1: they I had a great day in there. So you
Speaker 1: can have big dogs. Yeah, she's a big Yeah. So
Speaker 1: you can have dogs that live in those settings and
Speaker 1: they do great. I feel like people are like, how
Speaker 1: could you put that dog in an apartment? Well, she
Speaker 1: gets three walks a day and you know, you have
Speaker 1: access to parks, so I wouldn't. I mean, they can
Speaker 1: live a very nice, normal lifestyle in an urban setting
Speaker 1: like that.
Speaker 2: Okay, that's good to know. I should definitely get them trained,
Speaker 2: fully trained.
Speaker 1: For going to say that. First, We're gonna need like
Speaker 1: a couple of years with Nikki. Yeah, I was gonna
Speaker 1: that'll be that would be something else. Can you imagine
Speaker 1: him just like tearing down the streets?
Speaker 2: Oh gosh, well he did. He was actually really good
Speaker 2: with the walks and stuff, which I'm surprised by.
Speaker 1: If he likes to chase cars.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he likes to chase cars. One session with Nikki.
Speaker 2: He doesn't chase cars anymore.
Speaker 1: The old maximum point.
Speaker 2: He does not chase cards anymore. He's doing just fine
Speaker 2: with that now, which is good.
Speaker 1: I love that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Okay.
Speaker 1: We always sort of wrap up our episodes with a
Speaker 1: segment called paw and Order, So we're gonna do pawn Order.
Speaker 1: And this is three things I would never do with
Speaker 1: my pets as a veterinarian, and I think these will
Speaker 1: be good for you as I've kind of tailored them
Speaker 1: to like a new pet owner with a dog. So
Speaker 1: Number one, I wouldn't follow directions on the back of
Speaker 1: the bag when feed my pets unless they're a puppy.
Speaker 1: That's the only caveat the reason being is they almost
Speaker 1: always tell you to overfeed. My thought behind that is
Speaker 1: it's probably the pet food companies want to sell more food.
Speaker 1: Oh interesting, And so if you want to know how
Speaker 1: much to feed your pet. Ask your veterinarian. We can
Speaker 1: tell you exactly how many calories to feed, and then
Speaker 1: based on what you're eating, we can tell you exactly
Speaker 1: how much of that to give.
Speaker 2: Can I put you on the spot, Yeah, Like, what
Speaker 2: do you think he should he's fifty to fifty let's
Speaker 2: say call it fifty to sixty pounds. He fluctuates your
Speaker 2: active crazy barrier.
Speaker 1: Have to take that into account.
Speaker 2: And he's a grown boy, growing teenager.
Speaker 1: Sixty pounds, We'll say, well.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'd say, like precisely, it's probably like fifty seven something. Okay,
Speaker 2: fifty six fifty seven doing my calculata, your calculate, right,
Speaker 2: And I'll tell you right now when I do. I
Speaker 2: feed him every day at ten.
Speaker 1: To five, at four fifty. Wait what ten to five?
Speaker 2: I feed him twice a day, okay, at.
Speaker 1: Ten and okay, it was like, wow, four fifty that
Speaker 1: is very yeah, okayise five. So you who noted, Okay,
Speaker 1: let's see here. So this is actually a really great example.
Speaker 1: So if you had a fifty pound, fifty let's say,
Speaker 1: sixty pound dog that isn't young and active and growing
Speaker 1: in all the things, they would probably eat roughly around
Speaker 1: like seven hundred calories a day, and a sixty pound
Speaker 1: dog that is young and wild and active and biting
Speaker 1: his leash and all the things you're going to get
Speaker 1: closer to, like eleven hundred calories per day.
Speaker 2: Okay, good to know.
Speaker 1: So that's how much I would feed him, and then
Speaker 1: you can look what are you feeding him.
Speaker 2: There's a company called Mave that I've been okay with
Speaker 2: their stuff like the Farmer's Dog. It's all like the
Speaker 2: fresh stuff Farmer's Dog. Those are the two right now
Speaker 2: I'm playing with.
Speaker 1: I would Yeah, you can look at those bags and
Speaker 1: I'll tell you exactly how many calories. Most of the
Speaker 1: time on pet foods it says kill a cow so
Speaker 1: k c al per cup or per ounce and that's
Speaker 1: the same thing as a calorie.
Speaker 2: Good. So good to know, yes on it. Oh, what
Speaker 2: do you think about slow feeders?
Speaker 1: I love them. I have the best slow feeder that
Speaker 1: I use for my shepherd. It's made by yomphy y
Speaker 1: o m p yump.
Speaker 2: Okay, what else do you think about? Sorry, I'm stealing yourself,
Speaker 2: no question. Someone told me that you shouldn't put the
Speaker 2: bowl on the ground. You should actually elevate it for
Speaker 2: digestion issues. Is that is that internet.
Speaker 1: Trolls are going to come after me for this and
Speaker 1: I think they know everything. But no, you can put
Speaker 1: it on the.
Speaker 2: Ground because I was getting yelled at for that.
Speaker 1: There are no scientific studies to show that raising food bowls.
Speaker 1: The reason they say that is that their stomachs are
Speaker 1: less likely to flip if the food bowls are raised.
Speaker 1: There's no data behind that.
Speaker 2: Interesting, So you said stomach flip, Like what should what
Speaker 2: does it mean? And what should I look out for? Like,
Speaker 2: how do I know if my dog's stomach flips it's bad?
Speaker 1: So it's really mainly in like our really deep chested
Speaker 1: dogs that have all that extra space, and there's really
Speaker 1: no rhyme or reasons why it happens. We just know
Speaker 1: that some breeds are more predisposed to it, and for
Speaker 1: whatever reason, that stomach expands and then it flips on
Speaker 1: its and it cuts off blood supplies in the stomach
Speaker 1: and it's a like dire emergency, life threatening condition. The
Speaker 1: main symptom that we see is dogs that are wretching,
Speaker 1: so they're like gagging trying to get something up and
Speaker 1: nothing's coming out.
Speaker 2: Ah, is it common or no.
Speaker 1: It's the data. And like deep chested dogs like great Danes,
Speaker 1: forty percent of great Danes will experience GDB. Is what
Speaker 1: it's called.
Speaker 2: Okay, I have one more question and then.
Speaker 1: I'm done because ask away. I love this.
Speaker 2: That's something that the podcast holsto we can't help it.
Speaker 2: What are like, obviously there's symptoms of a human should
Speaker 2: like go to the emergency room. What are some things
Speaker 2: that is dog owners should be like if your dog's
Speaker 2: doing this, like don't mess around? Go see go go? Yeah,
Speaker 2: Like what are those things?
Speaker 1: A active bleeding? Okay, they're actively bleeding? I take them
Speaker 1: in Coughing I like to take pretty seriously a cough
Speaker 1: and a dog can go from being nothing to being
Speaker 1: something really bad pretty quickly. Coughing, by the way, can
Speaker 1: sound like a gag. A lot of times people will
Speaker 1: come in and be like, my dog, it sounds like
Speaker 1: something stuck in its throat and it's like this, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna make the cough noise and it's so embarrassing as
Speaker 1: what like that is what it sounds like? Okay, and
Speaker 1: then I kind of have this rule of three. So
Speaker 1: if they're having vomiting or diarrhea, or something like that.
Speaker 1: If it's three times in one day, three days in
Speaker 1: a row, or they have three concurrent issues, you should
Speaker 1: probably take them in to be seen. If it's like
Speaker 1: one off throw up, I'm like, yeah, they'll be.
Speaker 2: Fine, sure, But if you see three, then it's like.
Speaker 1: Go, exactly, they're diarying, they're not eating, and they're vomiting.
Speaker 1: Take them to the bet.
Speaker 2: That's the only thing I learned from like Nikki, threes
Speaker 2: are big. It's three days, three weeks, three months. If
Speaker 2: you heard that one, which is can you so I
Speaker 2: don't screw it up. Whether it's like three days when
Speaker 2: you adopt a dog, you need to be with the
Speaker 2: dog three days in your home, don't go anywhere nobody else,
Speaker 2: et cetera. And it's like within three weeks they start
Speaker 2: to find like they'll start to understand you're their person.
Speaker 2: And that takes like three full months of like active
Speaker 2: care for like them to like decompressed, decompressed, like be
Speaker 2: at their homeostasis.
Speaker 1: Yes, I that is so important when rescuing a dog
Speaker 1: is to have that expectation that you're not going to
Speaker 1: bring this dog in. You shouldn't go hit up the
Speaker 1: patios in the parks right away, like allow them to
Speaker 1: acclimate to your home and decompress, and that that takes time.
Speaker 1: And so that's like the essentially what that that rule is,
Speaker 1: and it's so important even like a year after adopting them,
Speaker 1: like I'll still like notice them starting to just like
Speaker 1: get even more comfortable. So it takes time.
Speaker 2: It takes time time.
Speaker 1: Okay. Number two on the list is it is flea
Speaker 1: seasoned people. It is getting warm out. I can't tell
Speaker 1: you how many owners have called me because they have
Speaker 1: fleas on their pets. And I'm gonna throw my sister
Speaker 1: under the bus again on this podcast, but she called
Speaker 1: me the other day. I know she called me the
Speaker 1: other day because her dog had a tick on it.
Speaker 1: And my big no no here is don't buy flea
Speaker 1: and tick prevention off of Amazon or Chewy. If it's
Speaker 1: not prescription base. You do not want to buy the
Speaker 1: over the counter stuff. It doesn't work. That's usually going
Speaker 1: to be like sorry to call you out Frontline, but
Speaker 1: like Frontline is the brand that I find that doesn't
Speaker 1: work very well, and you're going to end up saving
Speaker 1: a few dollars on the short end, but long end,
Speaker 1: your pet's going to get fleas intecks and you're gonna
Speaker 1: spend way more money trying to treat that. So it's
Speaker 1: worth the extra five dollars to buy the prevention from
Speaker 1: your met.
Speaker 2: Wait, isn't the prevention thing you wear on your neck?
Speaker 1: It can be the Ceresto collar, it can be around
Speaker 1: the neck. I don't love that one as much.
Speaker 2: What do you love?
Speaker 1: I love Simperica Trio, which is.
Speaker 2: That's the shot, isn't it?
Speaker 1: No, that's pro Heart. Simpiricatrio is just an all in
Speaker 1: one chew. It does flee ticks, heartworms, all in one
Speaker 1: chew once a month.
Speaker 2: That seems effective, super duper effective injection. I think. Is
Speaker 2: Simperica ever done an injection? Never? Never?
Speaker 1: You're thinking pro Heart.
Speaker 2: Might have been pro Heart because we did it and
Speaker 2: we almost lost one of our dogs. Really Yeah, he
Speaker 2: went into like cribb of the reaction, didn't know what
Speaker 2: to do. We had him on an ivy that I'm
Speaker 2: a heart monitor. The gums went fully gray, like we
Speaker 2: almost lost very scary. Yeah.
Speaker 1: No, I mean, I'm sure there's a lot of listeners
Speaker 1: out there that have their dogs on pro Heart. And
Speaker 1: it's not to say that it's a blanket statement of
Speaker 1: it being bad. It's just any vaccine, injection, anything we
Speaker 1: give them. There's all in humans too. There's always the
Speaker 1: risk of having a reaction to something, so he is
Speaker 1: one that we would not want to give pro hard.
Speaker 2: How do you for fleas and stuff? How do you?
Speaker 2: How do you know if a dog has fleas?
Speaker 1: They are super duper itchy, like they're unbearably itchy, and
Speaker 1: then we I can do my examine and see you please, yeah, okay, okay,
Speaker 1: you'll know, right, and then the fleas can like get.
Speaker 2: You can't see like I couldn't see fleas.
Speaker 1: You can see a flee you can mites like skin
Speaker 1: mites you can't see, but fleas you can see. They're
Speaker 1: like little teeny little like gnats, like the size of
Speaker 1: a gnat.
Speaker 2: Right, yeah, keep my eye. It's flea season.
Speaker 1: Keeper, it's flea season. Okay, number three. It is starting
Speaker 1: to warm up, as I just said, And my dogs
Speaker 1: are like crazy. I bet Teddy, Well, Teddy might still
Speaker 1: have his puppy coat, but he's got long hair, so
Speaker 1: you'll notice hair thick, hair thick. You'll notice that in
Speaker 1: the spring and the falls, when they do the majority
Speaker 1: of their shedding, and I would not ferminate my dogs
Speaker 1: this time of year really. Ever, the ferminating is a tool.
Speaker 1: It's a d shedding tool that kind of pulls out
Speaker 1: that undercoat. And if you go take your dog to
Speaker 1: the groomer, the groomers will also say like, do you
Speaker 1: want me to ferminate your dogs for you?
Speaker 2: Thing?
Speaker 1: Ferminating. I can't tell you how many times I see
Speaker 1: dogs come in three to five days post erminating and
Speaker 1: that tool causes like little micro tears in their skin
Speaker 1: and it gets infected and they're so itchy. They have
Speaker 1: like pustules all along their back. And it's not every
Speaker 1: single time, but it's a lot. So I try not
Speaker 1: to ferminate. Just get yourself a really good brush.
Speaker 2: Don't ferminate at all.
Speaker 1: Don't ferminate ever, I don't.
Speaker 2: Oh, don't do that.
Speaker 1: It's that tool so harsh and it like just scrapes
Speaker 1: across their skin.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I didn't know that, So get a brush. Don't
Speaker 2: use that for that clothing I use. Don't use that?
Speaker 1: Is it well?
Speaker 2: All? Look?
Speaker 1: Is it? Is it a ferminator?
Speaker 2: I think? So I'll send a picture and see what
Speaker 2: you think. But yeah, it's like one of those ones
Speaker 2: that it's got like a little I don't know, it's
Speaker 2: like metal and it's got like the little baby claws,
Speaker 2: and like when you do it, like he likes it, it
Speaker 2: feels good. But then like a bunch.
Speaker 1: Of hair, I'll take a look at it, you'll know, Like.
Speaker 2: So what about shampoos and stuff. Don't use fermination champ
Speaker 2: because aren't there like fermin champoo shampoo.
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, d shinting champoo great, okay, anything like labeled
Speaker 1: for a dog champoo. Wise, it's the tool. It's like
Speaker 1: that metal on skin. Okay, it hurts the skin barrier
Speaker 1: and then they can get infections after that.
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 1: I feel like people always like, do you have any
Speaker 1: brand deals from this podcast. I'm like, I'm literally up there.
Speaker 1: Just don't do the ferminator, don't do the front line.
Speaker 2: Let me tee you up with a potential brand opportunity here.
Speaker 1: Number one treat Number one treats.
Speaker 2: They're like top treat that you're like, that's a good treat.
Speaker 1: I really like Stuart's freeze dried and I don't love
Speaker 1: like freeze dried stuff, but these are the best. I
Speaker 1: carry them with me to all my appointments. Stuart's freeze
Speaker 1: dried liver treats. You can get them on I think
Speaker 1: it's like a family owned company. You can get the
Speaker 1: money Amazon.
Speaker 2: Okay, anything that you're like, absolutely not put that in
Speaker 2: your dog's mouth.
Speaker 1: Antlers, good one, anything hard like that. I can't I
Speaker 1: see a fract right, a hard bone. Anything I can't
Speaker 1: press my finger into out. I see so many fractured teeth.
Speaker 2: What about those bones with like the like this, I
Speaker 2: don't know what's your standard, like bone with like the
Speaker 2: peanut butter stuff in there. I'm blanking on it.
Speaker 1: Like a marrow bone. Yes, I mean those are also
Speaker 1: really hard, like they can fracture their teeth and then
Speaker 1: I got to go in and take the tooth out.
Speaker 2: That's a process.
Speaker 1: It's a process. I'm sweating, and you're spending thousand dollars.
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, so veinary care.
Speaker 1: We're going to I can't wait.
Speaker 2: I can't wait.
Speaker 1: Yump again and plugging them y omp. They make really
Speaker 1: good soft soft but they're silicone, so they're still like
Speaker 1: they can chew on them. Really great toys and bones
Speaker 1: for dogs to chew on. That's the tea.
Speaker 2: That's great. Yeah, awesome, Well.
Speaker 1: Thank you so much for coming on.
Speaker 2: Thank you for having me. This has been great and
Speaker 2: you'll have.
Speaker 1: To keep us posted. Well, I'll let people know what
Speaker 1: happens if you guys moved to New York. If Teddy
Speaker 1: gets a CCL face and needs it face, there's a lot.
Speaker 2: On the horizon. Maybe we'll do a part two one
Speaker 2: day and he'll be here once he's trained.
Speaker 1: In five years, Teddy will come years old. All right, Well,
Speaker 1: this has been a great first episode of season three,
Speaker 1: and we have so many more great episodes to come
Speaker 1: this season. We've got Lauren Aigins, We've got Victoria Fuller,
Speaker 1: we have the head of the swat team that trains
Speaker 1: all the swat dogs for the Nashville PD, Nikki the
Speaker 1: trainer who we've talked about one hundred times. This episode
Speaker 1: is also coming back, So stay tuned because it's going
Speaker 1: to be awesome and I can't wait for you guys
Speaker 1: to listen to it.
Speaker 2: H