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Speaker 1: Yeah, you're listening to in the Vets Office with doctor

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Speaker 1: Josie Horchak. All right, everyone, welcome back to in the

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Speaker 1: Vets Office. I am your host, doctor Josie, and today

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Speaker 1: we have a very special guest. You may know him

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Speaker 1: from the Bachelorette, but there's a lot more to him

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Speaker 1: than just reality TV. He's a best selling author, a

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Speaker 1: business and financial expert, an entrepreneur, and the host of

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Speaker 1: his own hit podcast, Trading Secrets, which I may or

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Speaker 1: may not be going on in the very near future.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, and most importantly of all, and the reason

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Speaker 1: he's here today is he is a dog dad. So

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Speaker 1: the newly adopted Teddy Welcome to in the Vet's Office.

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Speaker 1: Jason Tartet, thank you so much for having me. I'm

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Speaker 1: happy you're here.

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Speaker 2: This is cool. This is It's also like wild how

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Speaker 2: many people we know like like this all just came

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Speaker 2: together so quickly. It's kind of crazy small world out there.

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Speaker 1: I know, Nashville especial.

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Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, it's like, what's not six people's like

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Speaker 2: six s greous separations.

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Speaker 1: One totally Yeah, I saw you adopted Teddy, and I

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Speaker 1: messaged one of our really good mutual friends and I

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Speaker 1: was like, hey, I met this guy, might be interested

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Speaker 1: in a concierge. Vette like, let me reach out. So

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Speaker 1: I text you and You're like, I might be moving.

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Speaker 1: I don't really know. I'm like, no worries. Then I'm like, hey,

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Speaker 1: we could pro rate this if you want, you know,

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Speaker 1: me being a business girl, and.

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Speaker 2: Why you said that? Okay, So let me tell you

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Speaker 2: about you talked about red flag these texts right there?

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Speaker 2: How many is that that is? Okay?

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Speaker 1: Eight hundred and fourteen?

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Speaker 2: Well, I am the worst at texting. I don't know.

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Speaker 2: You said you can, ok we can pro rate.

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Speaker 1: Let's talk.

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Speaker 2: We can talk about I do New York City and

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Speaker 2: Nashville like a pro ray from when I'm just here.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely my clients close.

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Speaker 2: The deal in trading secrets.

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Speaker 1: You're going to close the deal. And and so then

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Speaker 1: I'm sitting there and you haven't responded yet, and I'm like, oh, man,

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Speaker 1: like I'm stressing about season three. I need more guests.

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Speaker 1: So then I send you a voice memo. You're busy.

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Speaker 1: I don't hear back from you. No big deal. That night,

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Speaker 2: Guys, what of this sucks?

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Speaker 1: So then we go out. I go out that evening,

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Speaker 1: I've texted him, I have voice memoed him, and now

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Speaker 1: I'm at this bar. I look like I'm stalking this guy.

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Speaker 1: I was like, hello, I'm doctor, Josie.

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Speaker 2: Josie, I was like a doctor. I'm like, wait a

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Speaker 1: Your the one has been blowing me up. Anyways, I'm

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Speaker 1: glad that we met, and I promise I'm not a stalker.

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Speaker 2: No, that is it's a I mean again, small world,

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Speaker 2: right everyone, by the way, everybody and I have friends, wags, walks,

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Speaker 2: my train, everyone in door as like you're the best,

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Speaker 2: Like you're the best. My biggest issue, though, is I'm

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Speaker 2: service makes like perfect sense, especially Teddy goes freaking nuts

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Speaker 1: Yes, we'll discuss before we dive into all things Teddy.

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Speaker 2: Maybe it is one of your class classes that heats

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Speaker 2: did nothing. I was the eyewitness. There was nothing.

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Speaker 1: Do you know what the charge was? No, like, did

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Speaker 2: He wouldn't do either option. As a result of that,

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Speaker 2: He was in doggy foster care. Yeah, except yeah, sounds

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Speaker 2: dude that's in jail. That dude got his show run

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Rango was the bike. Rango's got street red and

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you're exactly, And he wasn't you know, he just

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Speaker 2: What are you gonna do. You're gonna let them lead

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Speaker 2: I didn't realize that, like if a dog is like

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Speaker 1: And when we have human children, Yeah, thank you, Nikki,

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Speaker 2: The one thing that we're working on is like the figure.

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Speaker 1: But my German shepherd went to Nicki and so he's

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Speaker 1: you're like, I'm burning a hole in the sidewalk from

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Speaker 1: going five paces forward five paces back.

434
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Speaker 2: It's but it's like the patients and the consistency. One

435
00:20:02,600 --> 00:20:04,080
Speaker 2: thing I thought was interesting. I don't know if I

436
00:20:04,119 --> 00:20:05,920
Speaker 2: don't think she'd care if I shared this. I just

437
00:20:05,960 --> 00:20:08,240
Speaker 2: found it fascinating is when she's doing this. What I

438
00:20:08,320 --> 00:20:11,600
Speaker 2: love is she's explaining the psychology of like what's happening

439
00:20:11,600 --> 00:20:13,760
Speaker 2: to the doc and he was being we were going

440
00:20:13,840 --> 00:20:16,840
Speaker 2: she was he was throwing a fit, biting the leash

441
00:20:16,840 --> 00:20:18,560
Speaker 2: and like trying to play tug of war, and she

442
00:20:18,760 --> 00:20:21,480
Speaker 2: went down got his energy. It was a whole thing.

443
00:20:22,240 --> 00:20:24,520
Speaker 2: He was being a brat and she was doing this

444
00:20:24,560 --> 00:20:27,240
Speaker 2: thing with his mouth and it didn't create pain, but

445
00:20:27,280 --> 00:20:29,000
Speaker 2: it created this signal. I was like, what are you doing?

446
00:20:29,040 --> 00:20:31,280
Speaker 2: What is that? I've never seen that, And she's like,

447
00:20:31,359 --> 00:20:34,080
Speaker 2: when I do this, he's going to instantly stop. And

448
00:20:34,119 --> 00:20:36,760
Speaker 2: I was like, almost like imagine a pressure point, but

449
00:20:36,800 --> 00:20:38,760
Speaker 2: not a pressure point. I asked her to explain it.

450
00:20:38,840 --> 00:20:42,199
Speaker 2: She explained it and on the on a dog's muzzle

451
00:20:42,280 --> 00:20:44,359
Speaker 2: like on the top muzzle. I don't know what you

452
00:20:44,440 --> 00:20:46,080
Speaker 2: call that the upper what do you refer to that?

453
00:20:46,080 --> 00:20:46,760
Speaker 1: A snout?

454
00:20:46,840 --> 00:20:48,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, the snout, but like that where their teeth are

455
00:20:48,680 --> 00:20:50,480
Speaker 2: on the top versus the bottom, Like what would you

456
00:20:50,520 --> 00:20:51,520
Speaker 2: call this versus?

457
00:20:51,280 --> 00:20:52,920
Speaker 1: This is the maxilla?

458
00:20:53,040 --> 00:20:56,159
Speaker 2: Okay, so you open their muzzle the maxilla. Yeah, And

459
00:20:56,200 --> 00:20:58,320
Speaker 2: she just put her hand in the maxilla and then

460
00:20:58,400 --> 00:21:01,520
Speaker 2: the fingers kind of press stuff on the gums, just

461
00:21:01,560 --> 00:21:03,439
Speaker 2: the maxilla. And I was like, tell me more, and

462
00:21:03,480 --> 00:21:06,040
Speaker 2: she's like, well, and I hope I get this right.

463
00:21:06,200 --> 00:21:08,720
Speaker 2: This is what she said. I believe is when dogs fight,

464
00:21:09,720 --> 00:21:12,880
Speaker 2: a dog is like kind of winning because that's where

465
00:21:12,920 --> 00:21:16,120
Speaker 2: they're gonna bite. So it's it's almost like the equivalent

466
00:21:16,160 --> 00:21:18,000
Speaker 2: of like if you're if you're in a fight with

467
00:21:18,080 --> 00:21:19,760
Speaker 2: a man or a woman or whatever, yeah, and they

468
00:21:19,760 --> 00:21:22,439
Speaker 2: put you in a headlock, and you're just like, Okay,

469
00:21:22,920 --> 00:21:24,560
Speaker 2: if someone puts me in a head lock, I'm fine. I'm

470
00:21:24,560 --> 00:21:26,439
Speaker 2: not going I'm not like bleeding, I'm not that, but

471
00:21:26,480 --> 00:21:27,920
Speaker 2: I'm like, okay, I gotta submit.

472
00:21:27,960 --> 00:21:30,000
Speaker 1: You got white yeah.

473
00:21:29,800 --> 00:21:31,480
Speaker 2: Like all right, white flag, like you you won this

474
00:21:32,160 --> 00:21:34,160
Speaker 2: and so things like that.

475
00:21:33,960 --> 00:21:36,240
Speaker 1: That just you wouldn't know and we don't learn that

476
00:21:36,280 --> 00:21:38,040
Speaker 1: from that school. I don't learn that.

477
00:21:38,280 --> 00:21:38,840
Speaker 2: Yeah.

478
00:21:40,000 --> 00:21:42,399
Speaker 1: Yeah, So next time I'm going to fight with my sister,

479
00:21:42,400 --> 00:21:46,720
Speaker 1: I'm gonna stick my hands in her mask. I'll show

480
00:21:46,760 --> 00:21:52,840
Speaker 1: her Morgan's shaking her head at me. Carla, if you're listening,

481
00:21:52,880 --> 00:21:57,080
Speaker 1: watch out. That is funny. I mean, that is really

482
00:21:57,160 --> 00:21:59,359
Speaker 1: interesting though, and a lot of it is just and

483
00:21:59,400 --> 00:22:01,680
Speaker 1: I do love it. She explains the psychology because a

484
00:22:01,680 --> 00:22:03,040
Speaker 1: lot of times you're like, do this, do that, but

485
00:22:03,040 --> 00:22:04,640
Speaker 1: you're like, why am I doing this? It doesn't really

486
00:22:04,640 --> 00:22:06,679
Speaker 1: make sense. When you can think through it, it's so

487
00:22:06,760 --> 00:22:07,680
Speaker 1: much more helpful.

488
00:22:07,840 --> 00:22:10,639
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly. And she like even things like the couches,

489
00:22:10,680 --> 00:22:12,640
Speaker 2: Like dogs don't know what a couch is. We allow

490
00:22:12,680 --> 00:22:14,440
Speaker 2: them to get a couch. Once they get on a couch,

491
00:22:14,800 --> 00:22:18,000
Speaker 2: they are rated our like e ie with us. Yeah,

492
00:22:18,040 --> 00:22:19,920
Speaker 2: And so she's like, if you get to the point

493
00:22:20,080 --> 00:22:21,760
Speaker 2: that the dog come in the couch, it's got to

494
00:22:21,800 --> 00:22:24,560
Speaker 2: be earned, right, you know. And so like they sit

495
00:22:24,600 --> 00:22:26,240
Speaker 2: and then you let them come and if you want

496
00:22:26,240 --> 00:22:28,480
Speaker 2: them off, there's a demand for them to get off.

497
00:22:28,560 --> 00:22:31,960
Speaker 2: So it's the whole thing is just fascinating, but it's a.

498
00:22:31,960 --> 00:22:34,200
Speaker 1: Huge learning experience humans.

499
00:22:34,240 --> 00:22:36,520
Speaker 2: Oh my, and I also realized like, how you know

500
00:22:36,560 --> 00:22:39,760
Speaker 2: I've had dogs in the past, and I'm just like, wow,

501
00:22:39,800 --> 00:22:40,640
Speaker 2: how much I.

502
00:22:40,600 --> 00:22:43,640
Speaker 1: Was not I am a horrible pet owner. It really makes.

503
00:22:43,440 --> 00:22:46,800
Speaker 2: You think and I know, I know, So it's a lot.

504
00:22:46,920 --> 00:22:49,240
Speaker 1: How is it going. When we had first talked about him,

505
00:22:49,640 --> 00:22:50,960
Speaker 1: he was limping a little bit.

506
00:22:51,280 --> 00:22:55,119
Speaker 2: Yes, so he still is. It's interesting because like his

507
00:22:55,240 --> 00:22:58,320
Speaker 2: limp comes on and off. We have and this was

508
00:22:59,320 --> 00:23:02,720
Speaker 2: my last gold in. Poor guy was kicked in the

509
00:23:02,880 --> 00:23:06,840
Speaker 2: hip and was found in the streets. Bro yeah, and

510
00:23:06,960 --> 00:23:08,560
Speaker 2: found in the streets with a broken hip. He got

511
00:23:08,600 --> 00:23:12,720
Speaker 2: surgery and then we rescued him. Because of that, I'm

512
00:23:12,880 --> 00:23:15,000
Speaker 2: hyper aware of the hips on a dog, like whenever

513
00:23:15,200 --> 00:23:16,560
Speaker 2: am I walking him too much? Is he on the

514
00:23:16,600 --> 00:23:18,520
Speaker 2: concrete versus the grass? Because I would always want to

515
00:23:18,520 --> 00:23:21,000
Speaker 2: if he dragged it. So when I first picked him up,

516
00:23:21,640 --> 00:23:23,960
Speaker 2: I was like, something's up with his hip, But it

517
00:23:24,000 --> 00:23:26,919
Speaker 2: wasn't too drastic, and then it started to get worse,

518
00:23:26,920 --> 00:23:29,600
Speaker 2: but then it got better with pain, medication and inflammation.

519
00:23:29,920 --> 00:23:32,400
Speaker 2: So we got an X ray done. The x ray

520
00:23:33,000 --> 00:23:36,200
Speaker 2: is a big question mark because the vet said it's good.

521
00:23:36,600 --> 00:23:40,360
Speaker 2: The radiologist said it shows like an ACL tear. Now

522
00:23:40,400 --> 00:23:46,960
Speaker 2: we have wags has orthopedic that they suggest doctor Nunley.

523
00:23:47,240 --> 00:23:50,800
Speaker 2: Doctor Nunley is like, it's inconclusive. So I have three

524
00:23:50,840 --> 00:23:53,040
Speaker 2: different opinions from oh, I got to send those to

525
00:23:53,080 --> 00:23:56,280
Speaker 2: you want to gain your opinion. Three opinions and all

526
00:23:56,280 --> 00:23:58,320
Speaker 2: of them are up in the air. So what we're

527
00:23:58,320 --> 00:24:01,520
Speaker 2: doing is doctor Dunley is I guess he works all over,

528
00:24:01,600 --> 00:24:04,960
Speaker 2: So we're setting an appointment with him for Teddy to

529
00:24:05,000 --> 00:24:06,760
Speaker 2: go in to see if there's an ACL tear.

530
00:24:06,840 --> 00:24:09,880
Speaker 1: We can feel it. Yeah, it's so interesting because in humans,

531
00:24:10,119 --> 00:24:12,960
Speaker 1: well I guess, and animals too. When we take X rays,

532
00:24:13,359 --> 00:24:17,280
Speaker 1: we can see how does the femur fit into the

533
00:24:17,320 --> 00:24:19,640
Speaker 1: hip socket, and that tells us do they have hYP

534
00:24:19,680 --> 00:24:22,480
Speaker 1: dysplasia or not. That's super easy to rule in or out.

535
00:24:22,880 --> 00:24:25,919
Speaker 1: But at ligament tear we instead of ACL, we call

536
00:24:26,000 --> 00:24:28,120
Speaker 1: it CCL and dog that's right, I know something else

537
00:24:28,920 --> 00:24:32,280
Speaker 1: it's an ACL same thing. We can't really see that.

538
00:24:32,320 --> 00:24:35,639
Speaker 1: We can't see that ligament on X ray. Soft tissue

539
00:24:35,680 --> 00:24:41,960
Speaker 1: structures don't really radiate like bones do, and so we

540
00:24:42,000 --> 00:24:45,240
Speaker 1: can only see evidence of a CCL rupture. So like,

541
00:24:45,320 --> 00:24:47,120
Speaker 1: is there a little bit of swelling which we can

542
00:24:47,160 --> 00:24:50,080
Speaker 1: see on X ray? Is are the bones like slightly

543
00:24:50,119 --> 00:24:52,560
Speaker 1: out of position. But we can't say, oh, yeah, slam dunk,

544
00:24:52,600 --> 00:24:55,120
Speaker 1: the CCL is torn. So we do put a lot

545
00:24:55,119 --> 00:24:57,760
Speaker 1: of weight on our exam and when we move the

546
00:24:57,800 --> 00:24:59,879
Speaker 1: different bones in the leg, if there's a lot of

547
00:25:00,359 --> 00:25:02,959
Speaker 1: we call it laxity, but like a lot of extra movement,

548
00:25:03,400 --> 00:25:05,680
Speaker 1: then that would be give us more evidence that yeah,

549
00:25:05,720 --> 00:25:07,840
Speaker 1: this probably is a torn CCL.

550
00:25:08,040 --> 00:25:10,159
Speaker 2: Do dogs do MRIs.

551
00:25:09,800 --> 00:25:12,960
Speaker 1: They Doris, would you do an MRI? You absolutely could.

552
00:25:13,080 --> 00:25:16,840
Speaker 1: I would say yeah. I would say, we're gonna know

553
00:25:17,000 --> 00:25:18,679
Speaker 1: by the time we do the exam and take the

554
00:25:18,760 --> 00:25:21,400
Speaker 1: X right, it's gonna be pretty solid. If it ever

555
00:25:21,440 --> 00:25:23,160
Speaker 1: gets to the point where I've had a dog who

556
00:25:23,160 --> 00:25:25,960
Speaker 1: had this horrible swelling in his front leg. We didn't

557
00:25:26,000 --> 00:25:27,720
Speaker 1: know why we couldn't get to the bottom of it,

558
00:25:27,720 --> 00:25:30,399
Speaker 1: and we did an MRI. So we do have that

559
00:25:30,400 --> 00:25:32,760
Speaker 1: as an option. But you're that's like way more expensive

560
00:25:32,840 --> 00:25:34,120
Speaker 1: than an X ray an exam.

561
00:25:34,200 --> 00:25:36,840
Speaker 2: Yeah. What's interesting is like it's hard. I don't know.

562
00:25:36,960 --> 00:25:39,199
Speaker 2: I guess we'll have to see because there's some days

563
00:25:39,760 --> 00:25:41,159
Speaker 2: he's not phase it all.

564
00:25:41,160 --> 00:25:43,600
Speaker 1: On other days he limps a little bit, say a

565
00:25:43,600 --> 00:25:45,479
Speaker 1: little bit, is he like toe touching? Like what does

566
00:25:45,520 --> 00:25:48,199
Speaker 1: that mean like limping on his toe or is he

567
00:25:48,280 --> 00:25:50,280
Speaker 1: limping like not putting any weight on it at all?

568
00:25:50,440 --> 00:25:54,000
Speaker 2: Toe touching? Okay, but like that same day he'll be

569
00:25:54,040 --> 00:25:57,320
Speaker 2: doing bunny jumps fifteen feet in the air, like trying

570
00:25:57,320 --> 00:25:59,720
Speaker 2: to run, and I'm slowing them out there. We're pretty

571
00:26:00,600 --> 00:26:03,080
Speaker 2: since I went to the doctor, we're like really slowing

572
00:26:03,119 --> 00:26:05,359
Speaker 2: down exercise a little bit because they suggested two to

573
00:26:05,440 --> 00:26:09,360
Speaker 2: three weeks. You know, obviously he's a teenage wild man,

574
00:26:09,400 --> 00:26:11,360
Speaker 2: so give him some love and get him out there.

575
00:26:11,480 --> 00:26:13,600
Speaker 2: But like, let's let's keep an eye on it, and

576
00:26:13,600 --> 00:26:15,719
Speaker 2: then he's taking anti inflammation stuff.

577
00:26:15,800 --> 00:26:18,920
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, I mean, and so even if they tear

578
00:26:19,400 --> 00:26:21,440
Speaker 1: their acls, it doesn't have to be a full tear.

579
00:26:21,480 --> 00:26:24,080
Speaker 1: It could be a partial tear too, That's one thing

580
00:26:24,119 --> 00:26:26,080
Speaker 1: to think about. And so with that it can kind

581
00:26:26,080 --> 00:26:28,320
Speaker 1: of wax and weig like my husband Cody toward his

582
00:26:28,359 --> 00:26:31,320
Speaker 1: ACL and then went scuba diving the week after. So

583
00:26:31,520 --> 00:26:33,200
Speaker 1: they can tear it and still get around.

584
00:26:33,240 --> 00:26:33,560
Speaker 2: Okay.

585
00:26:33,640 --> 00:26:36,600
Speaker 1: So I would say I wouldn't let that like sway

586
00:26:36,640 --> 00:26:37,800
Speaker 1: me one way or another.

587
00:26:37,600 --> 00:26:39,280
Speaker 2: Okay, but it should I mean, it should get like

588
00:26:39,359 --> 00:26:41,439
Speaker 2: if it's a tear, we'll find out here. So the

589
00:26:41,480 --> 00:26:43,679
Speaker 2: next week or two it should get fixed though.

590
00:26:43,600 --> 00:26:47,720
Speaker 1: Right, yes, and a young, young, one active, million trillion

591
00:26:47,760 --> 00:26:50,960
Speaker 1: percent fix it. Yeah, absolutely, because if you don't fix

592
00:26:51,040 --> 00:26:53,600
Speaker 1: it then they're really predisposed to arthritis in their joint.

593
00:26:54,119 --> 00:26:55,960
Speaker 1: They kind of hobble around their whole life. And we

594
00:26:56,000 --> 00:26:58,560
Speaker 1: have such like the surgery now as like so it's

595
00:26:58,600 --> 00:27:01,640
Speaker 1: a well oiled machine. They do great. Definitely worth doing.

596
00:27:01,800 --> 00:27:04,840
Speaker 2: The idea of him two weeks though, like not being

597
00:27:04,880 --> 00:27:06,879
Speaker 2: able to walk, it breaks that.

598
00:27:07,640 --> 00:27:08,960
Speaker 1: It's like twelve weeks.

599
00:27:09,080 --> 00:27:11,000
Speaker 2: Oh my god, twelve weeks.

600
00:27:11,240 --> 00:27:12,560
Speaker 1: It's twelve weeks of recovery.

601
00:27:12,640 --> 00:27:18,400
Speaker 2: The first this poor guy, he's got so much. He's

602
00:27:18,400 --> 00:27:21,280
Speaker 2: going to the therapist for dogs. He's gonna need to

603
00:27:21,320 --> 00:27:22,000
Speaker 2: talk to someone.

604
00:27:22,040 --> 00:27:26,520
Speaker 1: Sounds like he could use a concier therapist. I do

605
00:27:26,680 --> 00:27:28,800
Speaker 1: not geting. I would. I can talk to him.

606
00:27:28,880 --> 00:27:29,720
Speaker 2: Can you tell me.

607
00:27:29,680 --> 00:27:30,360
Speaker 1: About your feelings?

608
00:27:30,440 --> 00:27:30,520
Speaker 2: No?

609
00:27:30,680 --> 00:27:33,080
Speaker 1: So really the first two to four weeks on a

610
00:27:33,160 --> 00:27:35,280
Speaker 1: leash in and out to go potty right back inside.

611
00:27:35,359 --> 00:27:37,520
Speaker 2: Oh my god, that is a form of torture for

612
00:27:37,560 --> 00:27:38,040
Speaker 2: this dog.

613
00:27:38,160 --> 00:27:39,480
Speaker 1: And then four weeks you can put them on a

614
00:27:39,520 --> 00:27:43,520
Speaker 1: leash and like go around the block of eight weeks

615
00:27:43,560 --> 00:27:45,600
Speaker 1: a little bit more twelve weeks back to normal activity.

616
00:27:45,720 --> 00:27:46,960
Speaker 2: I really hope it's not Tor.

617
00:27:47,400 --> 00:27:49,639
Speaker 1: I hope so too. And honestly, I mean he's so

618
00:27:49,760 --> 00:27:52,000
Speaker 1: young and rambunctious right now. Like you, it's okay, you're

619
00:27:52,000 --> 00:27:54,880
Speaker 1: not like neglecting by not doing anything, especially since he's

620
00:27:54,920 --> 00:27:57,639
Speaker 1: not limping on a like regular basis.

621
00:27:57,760 --> 00:27:59,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, we're in. It's all we're doing is waiting for

622
00:27:59,760 --> 00:28:02,360
Speaker 2: this with yes, which is gonna be the next week

623
00:28:02,400 --> 00:28:02,680
Speaker 2: or two.

624
00:28:02,920 --> 00:28:05,440
Speaker 1: That Jeff, that's doctor Nunley's heirs. Name is Jeff.

625
00:28:05,480 --> 00:28:05,920
Speaker 2: Oh Jeff.

626
00:28:06,200 --> 00:28:07,000
Speaker 1: Shout out to Jeff.

627
00:28:07,480 --> 00:28:08,960
Speaker 2: Let's go tell us what's.

628
00:28:08,840 --> 00:28:20,320
Speaker 1: Going on that he needs you. He needs a therapist,

629
00:28:20,640 --> 00:28:23,880
Speaker 1: an orthopedist. Action here got him for one month.

630
00:28:24,280 --> 00:28:27,480
Speaker 2: One month. He gets more packages than me. He's got

631
00:28:27,480 --> 00:28:30,400
Speaker 2: a lot of fans out there. People love speeches. It's

632
00:28:30,440 --> 00:28:33,080
Speaker 2: like a speech. They love to.

633
00:28:33,080 --> 00:28:34,520
Speaker 1: Start monetizing on my dogs.

634
00:28:34,560 --> 00:28:36,600
Speaker 2: Honestly, there's like when I walked out to come here,

635
00:28:36,680 --> 00:28:39,240
Speaker 2: FedEx showed up and then there's like four or five packages.

636
00:28:39,720 --> 00:28:41,800
Speaker 2: Everyone was for him. Everyone.

637
00:28:42,920 --> 00:28:43,760
Speaker 1: This is amazing.

638
00:28:44,120 --> 00:28:46,200
Speaker 2: He is just thriving. Get up here.

639
00:28:46,840 --> 00:28:50,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, camera putting you on social media?

640
00:28:50,680 --> 00:28:55,560
Speaker 2: Okay to know, Yeah, she's doing she should be doing.

641
00:28:55,600 --> 00:28:56,400
Speaker 2: She could do a lot.

642
00:28:56,800 --> 00:28:57,400
Speaker 1: She really could.

643
00:28:57,480 --> 00:29:00,320
Speaker 2: They're actually for the agency that I own. We some

644
00:29:00,440 --> 00:29:02,720
Speaker 2: dogs like Doug the Pug, or I mean, Doug the

645
00:29:02,800 --> 00:29:05,840
Speaker 2: Pug kills it. Dog the Pug Like Doug the Pug

646
00:29:05,880 --> 00:29:09,440
Speaker 2: makes the og. Majority of humans in this world does.

647
00:29:09,840 --> 00:29:12,160
Speaker 1: And he's like he has more followers than Miss Peaches.

648
00:29:12,200 --> 00:29:15,360
Speaker 1: He's the og. Doug has a new little sister named Dory.

649
00:29:15,600 --> 00:29:18,520
Speaker 2: Yes, I saw it, Doug her now, I know.

650
00:29:18,640 --> 00:29:19,360
Speaker 1: They're so cute.

651
00:29:19,520 --> 00:29:19,920
Speaker 2: Cute.

652
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Speaker 1: Okay, so you're thinking about moving to New York City,

653
00:29:23,360 --> 00:29:27,680
Speaker 1: which is no secret. Yeah, and how will I mean

654
00:29:27,800 --> 00:29:30,000
Speaker 1: is Teddy like a deciding factor in that, like, oho,

655
00:29:30,040 --> 00:29:32,640
Speaker 1: I want a yard for him in Nashville or yeah?

656
00:29:32,720 --> 00:29:34,080
Speaker 1: Is that playing into your decision at all?

657
00:29:34,400 --> 00:29:38,440
Speaker 2: It's definitely playing into my decision. And I brought him

658
00:29:38,440 --> 00:29:40,760
Speaker 2: to New York already, and he did great New York,

659
00:29:40,880 --> 00:29:44,040
Speaker 2: which is good. He'd like acclimated pretty well and we

660
00:29:44,080 --> 00:29:47,040
Speaker 2: didn't have any issues or anything. If I did live

661
00:29:47,040 --> 00:29:49,200
Speaker 2: in New York, it would have to be like Park,

662
00:29:49,320 --> 00:29:53,480
Speaker 2: would have to be within extreme close proximity. I think

663
00:29:53,520 --> 00:29:56,360
Speaker 2: what I'm where I'm leaning towards right now is buying

664
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Speaker 2: a place in Nashville, having a nice backyard, spending a

665
00:29:59,040 --> 00:30:01,240
Speaker 2: lot of time here and then having more of like

666
00:30:01,280 --> 00:30:04,240
Speaker 2: an office space in New York that I could get

667
00:30:04,280 --> 00:30:08,040
Speaker 2: the best podcast, have an area to cook and sleep,

668
00:30:08,400 --> 00:30:10,480
Speaker 2: so I could kind of like work as like a

669
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Speaker 2: an office and that I could do both. I'll go

670
00:30:13,520 --> 00:30:15,040
Speaker 2: up there to work a little bit and then come

671
00:30:15,080 --> 00:30:18,600
Speaker 2: back here to kind of relax and have residency here.

672
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Speaker 1: That's smart tax purposes too. Yeah, listening, just yeah, look away.

673
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Speaker 1: We I lived in downtown Chicago prior to moving here

674
00:30:31,000 --> 00:30:33,080
Speaker 1: and took care of all the pets in downtown Chicago,

675
00:30:33,120 --> 00:30:35,320
Speaker 1: which is just as urban as New York City, and

676
00:30:35,480 --> 00:30:37,520
Speaker 1: they I had a great day in there. So you

677
00:30:37,560 --> 00:30:41,360
Speaker 1: can have big dogs. Yeah, she's a big Yeah. So

678
00:30:41,400 --> 00:30:43,440
Speaker 1: you can have dogs that live in those settings and

679
00:30:43,480 --> 00:30:44,960
Speaker 1: they do great. I feel like people are like, how

680
00:30:44,960 --> 00:30:47,880
Speaker 1: could you put that dog in an apartment? Well, she

681
00:30:47,960 --> 00:30:51,400
Speaker 1: gets three walks a day and you know, you have

682
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Speaker 1: access to parks, so I wouldn't. I mean, they can

683
00:30:53,840 --> 00:30:56,240
Speaker 1: live a very nice, normal lifestyle in an urban setting

684
00:30:56,280 --> 00:30:56,560
Speaker 1: like that.

685
00:30:56,640 --> 00:30:59,040
Speaker 2: Okay, that's good to know. I should definitely get them trained,

686
00:30:59,160 --> 00:31:00,040
Speaker 2: fully trained.

687
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Speaker 1: For going to say that. First, We're gonna need like

688
00:31:03,560 --> 00:31:09,640
Speaker 1: a couple of years with Nikki. Yeah, I was gonna

689
00:31:09,680 --> 00:31:11,600
Speaker 1: that'll be that would be something else. Can you imagine

690
00:31:11,640 --> 00:31:13,640
Speaker 1: him just like tearing down the streets?

691
00:31:13,760 --> 00:31:16,080
Speaker 2: Oh gosh, well he did. He was actually really good

692
00:31:16,320 --> 00:31:18,360
Speaker 2: with the walks and stuff, which I'm surprised by.

693
00:31:19,120 --> 00:31:20,600
Speaker 1: If he likes to chase cars.

694
00:31:20,360 --> 00:31:23,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, he likes to chase cars. One session with Nikki.

695
00:31:24,120 --> 00:31:25,800
Speaker 2: He doesn't chase cars anymore.

696
00:31:25,480 --> 00:31:27,320
Speaker 1: The old maximum point.

697
00:31:27,440 --> 00:31:31,400
Speaker 2: He does not chase cards anymore. He's doing just fine

698
00:31:31,400 --> 00:31:32,560
Speaker 2: with that now, which is good.

699
00:31:32,720 --> 00:31:33,239
Speaker 1: I love that.

700
00:31:33,520 --> 00:31:35,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, Okay.

701
00:31:35,200 --> 00:31:39,200
Speaker 1: We always sort of wrap up our episodes with a

702
00:31:39,240 --> 00:31:43,000
Speaker 1: segment called paw and Order, So we're gonna do pawn Order.

703
00:31:43,080 --> 00:31:45,400
Speaker 1: And this is three things I would never do with

704
00:31:45,520 --> 00:31:48,120
Speaker 1: my pets as a veterinarian, and I think these will

705
00:31:48,160 --> 00:31:50,680
Speaker 1: be good for you as I've kind of tailored them

706
00:31:50,680 --> 00:31:53,840
Speaker 1: to like a new pet owner with a dog. So

707
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Speaker 1: Number one, I wouldn't follow directions on the back of

708
00:31:59,000 --> 00:32:01,960
Speaker 1: the bag when feed my pets unless they're a puppy.

709
00:32:02,000 --> 00:32:05,040
Speaker 1: That's the only caveat the reason being is they almost

710
00:32:05,080 --> 00:32:07,600
Speaker 1: always tell you to overfeed. My thought behind that is

711
00:32:07,600 --> 00:32:10,000
Speaker 1: it's probably the pet food companies want to sell more food.

712
00:32:10,840 --> 00:32:14,640
Speaker 1: Oh interesting, And so if you want to know how

713
00:32:14,680 --> 00:32:16,719
Speaker 1: much to feed your pet. Ask your veterinarian. We can

714
00:32:16,760 --> 00:32:19,959
Speaker 1: tell you exactly how many calories to feed, and then

715
00:32:19,960 --> 00:32:21,560
Speaker 1: based on what you're eating, we can tell you exactly

716
00:32:21,600 --> 00:32:22,520
Speaker 1: how much of that to give.

717
00:32:22,760 --> 00:32:24,400
Speaker 2: Can I put you on the spot, Yeah, Like, what

718
00:32:24,440 --> 00:32:26,800
Speaker 2: do you think he should he's fifty to fifty let's

719
00:32:26,800 --> 00:32:30,000
Speaker 2: say call it fifty to sixty pounds. He fluctuates your

720
00:32:30,040 --> 00:32:31,440
Speaker 2: active crazy barrier.

721
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Speaker 1: Have to take that into account.

722
00:32:33,160 --> 00:32:35,480
Speaker 2: And he's a grown boy, growing teenager.

723
00:32:35,200 --> 00:32:37,600
Speaker 1: Sixty pounds, We'll say, well.

724
00:32:37,440 --> 00:32:41,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'd say, like precisely, it's probably like fifty seven something. Okay,

725
00:32:41,600 --> 00:32:44,400
Speaker 2: fifty six fifty seven doing my calculata, your calculate, right,

726
00:32:44,440 --> 00:32:45,560
Speaker 2: And I'll tell you right now when I do. I

727
00:32:45,560 --> 00:32:47,360
Speaker 2: feed him every day at ten.

728
00:32:47,200 --> 00:32:51,920
Speaker 1: To five, at four fifty. Wait what ten to five?

729
00:32:51,960 --> 00:32:53,880
Speaker 2: I feed him twice a day, okay, at.

730
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Speaker 1: Ten and okay, it was like, wow, four fifty that

731
00:32:56,760 --> 00:33:04,560
Speaker 1: is very yeah, okayise five. So you who noted, Okay,

732
00:33:04,600 --> 00:33:07,720
Speaker 1: let's see here. So this is actually a really great example.

733
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Speaker 1: So if you had a fifty pound, fifty let's say,

734
00:33:10,720 --> 00:33:13,960
Speaker 1: sixty pound dog that isn't young and active and growing

735
00:33:14,000 --> 00:33:16,120
Speaker 1: in all the things, they would probably eat roughly around

736
00:33:16,160 --> 00:33:19,040
Speaker 1: like seven hundred calories a day, and a sixty pound

737
00:33:19,120 --> 00:33:22,120
Speaker 1: dog that is young and wild and active and biting

738
00:33:22,120 --> 00:33:24,160
Speaker 1: his leash and all the things you're going to get

739
00:33:24,160 --> 00:33:26,680
Speaker 1: closer to, like eleven hundred calories per day.

740
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Speaker 2: Okay, good to know.

741
00:33:27,800 --> 00:33:30,360
Speaker 1: So that's how much I would feed him, and then

742
00:33:30,400 --> 00:33:34,480
Speaker 1: you can look what are you feeding him.

743
00:33:34,800 --> 00:33:37,600
Speaker 2: There's a company called Mave that I've been okay with

744
00:33:37,640 --> 00:33:39,840
Speaker 2: their stuff like the Farmer's Dog. It's all like the

745
00:33:39,840 --> 00:33:42,200
Speaker 2: fresh stuff Farmer's Dog. Those are the two right now

746
00:33:42,200 --> 00:33:43,080
Speaker 2: I'm playing with.

747
00:33:43,280 --> 00:33:45,000
Speaker 1: I would Yeah, you can look at those bags and

748
00:33:45,000 --> 00:33:47,280
Speaker 1: I'll tell you exactly how many calories. Most of the

749
00:33:47,280 --> 00:33:49,160
Speaker 1: time on pet foods it says kill a cow so

750
00:33:49,320 --> 00:33:53,840
Speaker 1: k c al per cup or per ounce and that's

751
00:33:53,880 --> 00:33:54,800
Speaker 1: the same thing as a calorie.

752
00:33:55,280 --> 00:33:58,760
Speaker 2: Good. So good to know, yes on it. Oh, what

753
00:33:58,800 --> 00:34:00,000
Speaker 2: do you think about slow feeders?

754
00:34:00,280 --> 00:34:02,640
Speaker 1: I love them. I have the best slow feeder that

755
00:34:02,680 --> 00:34:06,080
Speaker 1: I use for my shepherd. It's made by yomphy y

756
00:34:06,240 --> 00:34:07,560
Speaker 1: o m p yump.

757
00:34:07,680 --> 00:34:10,160
Speaker 2: Okay, what else do you think about? Sorry, I'm stealing yourself,

758
00:34:10,440 --> 00:34:14,120
Speaker 2: no question. Someone told me that you shouldn't put the

759
00:34:14,160 --> 00:34:16,560
Speaker 2: bowl on the ground. You should actually elevate it for

760
00:34:16,640 --> 00:34:19,680
Speaker 2: digestion issues. Is that is that internet.

761
00:34:19,440 --> 00:34:21,759
Speaker 1: Trolls are going to come after me for this and

762
00:34:21,800 --> 00:34:23,359
Speaker 1: I think they know everything. But no, you can put

763
00:34:23,400 --> 00:34:23,719
Speaker 1: it on the.

764
00:34:23,640 --> 00:34:25,560
Speaker 2: Ground because I was getting yelled at for that.

765
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Speaker 1: There are no scientific studies to show that raising food bowls.

766
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Speaker 1: The reason they say that is that their stomachs are

767
00:34:31,200 --> 00:34:33,439
Speaker 1: less likely to flip if the food bowls are raised.

768
00:34:33,440 --> 00:34:35,279
Speaker 1: There's no data behind that.

769
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Speaker 2: Interesting, So you said stomach flip, Like what should what

770
00:34:38,480 --> 00:34:40,120
Speaker 2: does it mean? And what should I look out for? Like,

771
00:34:40,120 --> 00:34:43,160
Speaker 2: how do I know if my dog's stomach flips it's bad?

772
00:34:43,719 --> 00:34:46,640
Speaker 1: So it's really mainly in like our really deep chested

773
00:34:46,680 --> 00:34:51,080
Speaker 1: dogs that have all that extra space, and there's really

774
00:34:51,080 --> 00:34:53,080
Speaker 1: no rhyme or reasons why it happens. We just know

775
00:34:53,120 --> 00:34:56,480
Speaker 1: that some breeds are more predisposed to it, and for

776
00:34:56,560 --> 00:34:59,719
Speaker 1: whatever reason, that stomach expands and then it flips on

777
00:34:59,760 --> 00:35:03,200
Speaker 1: its and it cuts off blood supplies in the stomach

778
00:35:03,239 --> 00:35:07,479
Speaker 1: and it's a like dire emergency, life threatening condition. The

779
00:35:07,520 --> 00:35:10,719
Speaker 1: main symptom that we see is dogs that are wretching,

780
00:35:11,239 --> 00:35:13,880
Speaker 1: so they're like gagging trying to get something up and

781
00:35:13,920 --> 00:35:14,680
Speaker 1: nothing's coming out.

782
00:35:15,080 --> 00:35:17,279
Speaker 2: Ah, is it common or no.

783
00:35:17,400 --> 00:35:21,240
Speaker 1: It's the data. And like deep chested dogs like great Danes,

784
00:35:21,480 --> 00:35:24,319
Speaker 1: forty percent of great Danes will experience GDB. Is what

785
00:35:24,360 --> 00:35:24,759
Speaker 1: it's called.

786
00:35:25,160 --> 00:35:27,000
Speaker 2: Okay, I have one more question and then.

787
00:35:26,880 --> 00:35:28,879
Speaker 1: I'm done because ask away. I love this.

788
00:35:29,000 --> 00:35:31,520
Speaker 2: That's something that the podcast holsto we can't help it.

789
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Speaker 2: What are like, obviously there's symptoms of a human should

790
00:35:34,760 --> 00:35:37,240
Speaker 2: like go to the emergency room. What are some things

791
00:35:37,239 --> 00:35:38,920
Speaker 2: that is dog owners should be like if your dog's

792
00:35:39,000 --> 00:35:42,160
Speaker 2: doing this, like don't mess around? Go see go go? Yeah,

793
00:35:42,280 --> 00:35:43,320
Speaker 2: Like what are those things?

794
00:35:43,320 --> 00:35:46,879
Speaker 1: A active bleeding? Okay, they're actively bleeding? I take them

795
00:35:46,880 --> 00:35:50,560
Speaker 1: in Coughing I like to take pretty seriously a cough

796
00:35:50,640 --> 00:35:54,239
Speaker 1: and a dog can go from being nothing to being

797
00:35:54,280 --> 00:35:57,560
Speaker 1: something really bad pretty quickly. Coughing, by the way, can

798
00:35:57,600 --> 00:35:59,359
Speaker 1: sound like a gag. A lot of times people will

799
00:35:59,360 --> 00:36:00,680
Speaker 1: come in and be like, my dog, it sounds like

800
00:36:00,719 --> 00:36:02,879
Speaker 1: something stuck in its throat and it's like this, I'm

801
00:36:02,880 --> 00:36:04,759
Speaker 1: gonna make the cough noise and it's so embarrassing as

802
00:36:04,800 --> 00:36:08,640
Speaker 1: what like that is what it sounds like? Okay, and

803
00:36:08,719 --> 00:36:10,600
Speaker 1: then I kind of have this rule of three. So

804
00:36:10,840 --> 00:36:13,520
Speaker 1: if they're having vomiting or diarrhea, or something like that.

805
00:36:13,560 --> 00:36:15,920
Speaker 1: If it's three times in one day, three days in

806
00:36:15,920 --> 00:36:19,080
Speaker 1: a row, or they have three concurrent issues, you should

807
00:36:19,080 --> 00:36:20,960
Speaker 1: probably take them in to be seen. If it's like

808
00:36:21,040 --> 00:36:22,920
Speaker 1: one off throw up, I'm like, yeah, they'll be.

809
00:36:22,920 --> 00:36:24,839
Speaker 2: Fine, sure, But if you see three, then it's like.

810
00:36:24,800 --> 00:36:27,680
Speaker 1: Go, exactly, they're diarying, they're not eating, and they're vomiting.

811
00:36:27,760 --> 00:36:28,399
Speaker 1: Take them to the bet.

812
00:36:28,520 --> 00:36:30,720
Speaker 2: That's the only thing I learned from like Nikki, threes

813
00:36:30,760 --> 00:36:33,080
Speaker 2: are big. It's three days, three weeks, three months. If

814
00:36:33,120 --> 00:36:35,120
Speaker 2: you heard that one, which is can you so I

815
00:36:35,120 --> 00:36:37,200
Speaker 2: don't screw it up. Whether it's like three days when

816
00:36:37,239 --> 00:36:38,840
Speaker 2: you adopt a dog, you need to be with the

817
00:36:38,880 --> 00:36:42,000
Speaker 2: dog three days in your home, don't go anywhere nobody else,

818
00:36:42,000 --> 00:36:45,400
Speaker 2: et cetera. And it's like within three weeks they start

819
00:36:45,440 --> 00:36:48,120
Speaker 2: to find like they'll start to understand you're their person.

820
00:36:48,440 --> 00:36:50,840
Speaker 2: And that takes like three full months of like active

821
00:36:50,920 --> 00:36:54,160
Speaker 2: care for like them to like decompressed, decompressed, like be

822
00:36:54,239 --> 00:36:55,480
Speaker 2: at their homeostasis.

823
00:36:55,600 --> 00:36:59,600
Speaker 1: Yes, I that is so important when rescuing a dog

824
00:36:59,680 --> 00:37:03,000
Speaker 1: is to have that expectation that you're not going to

825
00:37:03,040 --> 00:37:04,799
Speaker 1: bring this dog in. You shouldn't go hit up the

826
00:37:04,840 --> 00:37:08,440
Speaker 1: patios in the parks right away, like allow them to

827
00:37:08,480 --> 00:37:11,959
Speaker 1: acclimate to your home and decompress, and that that takes time.

828
00:37:12,040 --> 00:37:14,759
Speaker 1: And so that's like the essentially what that that rule is,

829
00:37:14,800 --> 00:37:17,759
Speaker 1: and it's so important even like a year after adopting them,

830
00:37:17,760 --> 00:37:20,279
Speaker 1: like I'll still like notice them starting to just like

831
00:37:20,360 --> 00:37:22,319
Speaker 1: get even more comfortable. So it takes time.

832
00:37:22,400 --> 00:37:23,799
Speaker 2: It takes time time.

833
00:37:25,080 --> 00:37:27,560
Speaker 1: Okay. Number two on the list is it is flea

834
00:37:27,600 --> 00:37:31,879
Speaker 1: seasoned people. It is getting warm out. I can't tell

835
00:37:31,920 --> 00:37:33,759
Speaker 1: you how many owners have called me because they have

836
00:37:33,800 --> 00:37:36,680
Speaker 1: fleas on their pets. And I'm gonna throw my sister

837
00:37:36,760 --> 00:37:39,480
Speaker 1: under the bus again on this podcast, but she called

838
00:37:39,520 --> 00:37:41,840
Speaker 1: me the other day. I know she called me the

839
00:37:41,840 --> 00:37:44,160
Speaker 1: other day because her dog had a tick on it.

840
00:37:44,840 --> 00:37:47,439
Speaker 1: And my big no no here is don't buy flea

841
00:37:47,520 --> 00:37:53,000
Speaker 1: and tick prevention off of Amazon or Chewy. If it's

842
00:37:53,000 --> 00:37:54,759
Speaker 1: not prescription base. You do not want to buy the

843
00:37:54,760 --> 00:37:57,600
Speaker 1: over the counter stuff. It doesn't work. That's usually going

844
00:37:57,680 --> 00:37:59,400
Speaker 1: to be like sorry to call you out Frontline, but

845
00:37:59,440 --> 00:38:02,600
Speaker 1: like Frontline is the brand that I find that doesn't

846
00:38:02,600 --> 00:38:05,440
Speaker 1: work very well, and you're going to end up saving

847
00:38:05,480 --> 00:38:07,279
Speaker 1: a few dollars on the short end, but long end,

848
00:38:07,280 --> 00:38:09,160
Speaker 1: your pet's going to get fleas intecks and you're gonna

849
00:38:09,160 --> 00:38:11,040
Speaker 1: spend way more money trying to treat that. So it's

850
00:38:11,080 --> 00:38:13,640
Speaker 1: worth the extra five dollars to buy the prevention from

851
00:38:13,719 --> 00:38:14,279
Speaker 1: your met.

852
00:38:14,440 --> 00:38:17,200
Speaker 2: Wait, isn't the prevention thing you wear on your neck?

853
00:38:17,280 --> 00:38:19,960
Speaker 1: It can be the Ceresto collar, it can be around

854
00:38:20,000 --> 00:38:23,160
Speaker 1: the neck. I don't love that one as much.

855
00:38:24,239 --> 00:38:24,919
Speaker 2: What do you love?

856
00:38:25,080 --> 00:38:27,399
Speaker 1: I love Simperica Trio, which is.

857
00:38:27,560 --> 00:38:28,680
Speaker 2: That's the shot, isn't it?

858
00:38:28,800 --> 00:38:31,520
Speaker 1: No, that's pro Heart. Simpiricatrio is just an all in

859
00:38:31,560 --> 00:38:34,120
Speaker 1: one chew. It does flee ticks, heartworms, all in one

860
00:38:34,200 --> 00:38:35,080
Speaker 1: chew once a month.

861
00:38:35,560 --> 00:38:39,480
Speaker 2: That seems effective, super duper effective injection. I think. Is

862
00:38:39,520 --> 00:38:42,040
Speaker 2: Simperica ever done an injection? Never? Never?

863
00:38:43,000 --> 00:38:44,319
Speaker 1: You're thinking pro Heart.

864
00:38:44,400 --> 00:38:46,440
Speaker 2: Might have been pro Heart because we did it and

865
00:38:46,480 --> 00:38:49,200
Speaker 2: we almost lost one of our dogs. Really Yeah, he

866
00:38:49,239 --> 00:38:52,080
Speaker 2: went into like cribb of the reaction, didn't know what

867
00:38:52,120 --> 00:38:54,680
Speaker 2: to do. We had him on an ivy that I'm

868
00:38:54,719 --> 00:38:59,239
Speaker 2: a heart monitor. The gums went fully gray, like we

869
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Speaker 2: almost lost very scary. Yeah.

870
00:39:02,719 --> 00:39:04,240
Speaker 1: No, I mean, I'm sure there's a lot of listeners

871
00:39:04,239 --> 00:39:05,840
Speaker 1: out there that have their dogs on pro Heart. And

872
00:39:05,880 --> 00:39:08,600
Speaker 1: it's not to say that it's a blanket statement of

873
00:39:08,640 --> 00:39:12,560
Speaker 1: it being bad. It's just any vaccine, injection, anything we

874
00:39:12,640 --> 00:39:14,719
Speaker 1: give them. There's all in humans too. There's always the

875
00:39:14,800 --> 00:39:17,920
Speaker 1: risk of having a reaction to something, so he is

876
00:39:17,920 --> 00:39:19,520
Speaker 1: one that we would not want to give pro hard.

877
00:39:19,560 --> 00:39:22,080
Speaker 2: How do you for fleas and stuff? How do you?

878
00:39:22,960 --> 00:39:25,080
Speaker 2: How do you know if a dog has fleas?

879
00:39:25,160 --> 00:39:29,239
Speaker 1: They are super duper itchy, like they're unbearably itchy, and

880
00:39:29,280 --> 00:39:34,160
Speaker 1: then we I can do my examine and see you please, yeah, okay, okay,

881
00:39:34,239 --> 00:39:37,000
Speaker 1: you'll know, right, and then the fleas can like get.

882
00:39:36,920 --> 00:39:38,680
Speaker 2: You can't see like I couldn't see fleas.

883
00:39:38,719 --> 00:39:41,239
Speaker 1: You can see a flee you can mites like skin

884
00:39:41,360 --> 00:39:44,200
Speaker 1: mites you can't see, but fleas you can see. They're

885
00:39:44,239 --> 00:39:46,960
Speaker 1: like little teeny little like gnats, like the size of

886
00:39:47,000 --> 00:39:48,200
Speaker 1: a gnat.

887
00:39:48,600 --> 00:39:51,759
Speaker 2: Right, yeah, keep my eye. It's flea season.

888
00:39:51,600 --> 00:39:56,960
Speaker 1: Keeper, it's flea season. Okay, number three. It is starting

889
00:39:56,960 --> 00:39:59,719
Speaker 1: to warm up, as I just said, And my dogs

890
00:39:59,719 --> 00:40:02,719
Speaker 1: are like crazy. I bet Teddy, Well, Teddy might still

891
00:40:02,719 --> 00:40:04,799
Speaker 1: have his puppy coat, but he's got long hair, so

892
00:40:04,960 --> 00:40:08,719
Speaker 1: you'll notice hair thick, hair thick. You'll notice that in

893
00:40:08,760 --> 00:40:11,120
Speaker 1: the spring and the falls, when they do the majority

894
00:40:11,120 --> 00:40:15,200
Speaker 1: of their shedding, and I would not ferminate my dogs

895
00:40:16,320 --> 00:40:20,160
Speaker 1: this time of year really. Ever, the ferminating is a tool.

896
00:40:20,320 --> 00:40:22,480
Speaker 1: It's a d shedding tool that kind of pulls out

897
00:40:22,520 --> 00:40:26,600
Speaker 1: that undercoat. And if you go take your dog to

898
00:40:26,600 --> 00:40:28,600
Speaker 1: the groomer, the groomers will also say like, do you

899
00:40:28,600 --> 00:40:30,040
Speaker 1: want me to ferminate your dogs for you?

900
00:40:32,480 --> 00:40:32,640
Speaker 2: Thing?

901
00:40:33,960 --> 00:40:37,520
Speaker 1: Ferminating. I can't tell you how many times I see

902
00:40:37,560 --> 00:40:41,080
Speaker 1: dogs come in three to five days post erminating and

903
00:40:41,120 --> 00:40:43,680
Speaker 1: that tool causes like little micro tears in their skin

904
00:40:43,760 --> 00:40:46,520
Speaker 1: and it gets infected and they're so itchy. They have

905
00:40:46,640 --> 00:40:49,239
Speaker 1: like pustules all along their back. And it's not every

906
00:40:49,280 --> 00:40:51,840
Speaker 1: single time, but it's a lot. So I try not

907
00:40:51,880 --> 00:40:53,880
Speaker 1: to ferminate. Just get yourself a really good brush.

908
00:40:53,920 --> 00:40:54,799
Speaker 2: Don't ferminate at all.

909
00:40:54,840 --> 00:40:56,520
Speaker 1: Don't ferminate ever, I don't.

910
00:40:56,560 --> 00:40:57,440
Speaker 2: Oh, don't do that.

911
00:40:59,120 --> 00:41:01,600
Speaker 1: It's that tool so harsh and it like just scrapes

912
00:41:01,600 --> 00:41:02,400
Speaker 1: across their skin.

913
00:41:02,640 --> 00:41:06,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, I didn't know that, So get a brush. Don't

914
00:41:06,840 --> 00:41:09,200
Speaker 2: use that for that clothing I use. Don't use that?

915
00:41:09,680 --> 00:41:10,680
Speaker 1: Is it well?

916
00:41:10,680 --> 00:41:11,000
Speaker 2: All? Look?

917
00:41:11,080 --> 00:41:12,360
Speaker 1: Is it? Is it a ferminator?

918
00:41:12,480 --> 00:41:15,160
Speaker 2: I think? So I'll send a picture and see what

919
00:41:15,160 --> 00:41:17,080
Speaker 2: you think. But yeah, it's like one of those ones

920
00:41:17,080 --> 00:41:19,080
Speaker 2: that it's got like a little I don't know, it's

921
00:41:19,080 --> 00:41:21,720
Speaker 2: like metal and it's got like the little baby claws,

922
00:41:21,719 --> 00:41:23,160
Speaker 2: and like when you do it, like he likes it, it

923
00:41:23,200 --> 00:41:24,840
Speaker 2: feels good. But then like a bunch.

924
00:41:24,640 --> 00:41:27,440
Speaker 1: Of hair, I'll take a look at it, you'll know, Like.

925
00:41:27,760 --> 00:41:30,439
Speaker 2: So what about shampoos and stuff. Don't use fermination champ

926
00:41:30,440 --> 00:41:34,160
Speaker 2: because aren't there like fermin champoo shampoo.

927
00:41:33,800 --> 00:41:37,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, d shinting champoo great, okay, anything like labeled

928
00:41:37,280 --> 00:41:39,640
Speaker 1: for a dog champoo. Wise, it's the tool. It's like

929
00:41:39,680 --> 00:41:43,360
Speaker 1: that metal on skin. Okay, it hurts the skin barrier

930
00:41:43,400 --> 00:41:45,040
Speaker 1: and then they can get infections after that.

931
00:41:45,160 --> 00:41:45,480
Speaker 2: Okay.

932
00:41:47,520 --> 00:41:48,879
Speaker 1: I feel like people always like, do you have any

933
00:41:48,920 --> 00:41:51,239
Speaker 1: brand deals from this podcast. I'm like, I'm literally up there.

934
00:41:51,400 --> 00:41:54,640
Speaker 1: Just don't do the ferminator, don't do the front line.

935
00:41:54,760 --> 00:41:57,759
Speaker 2: Let me tee you up with a potential brand opportunity here.

936
00:41:58,239 --> 00:42:00,960
Speaker 1: Number one treat Number one treats.

937
00:42:01,120 --> 00:42:03,560
Speaker 2: They're like top treat that you're like, that's a good treat.

938
00:42:03,840 --> 00:42:07,960
Speaker 1: I really like Stuart's freeze dried and I don't love

939
00:42:08,040 --> 00:42:10,239
Speaker 1: like freeze dried stuff, but these are the best. I

940
00:42:10,280 --> 00:42:12,760
Speaker 1: carry them with me to all my appointments. Stuart's freeze

941
00:42:12,800 --> 00:42:15,399
Speaker 1: dried liver treats. You can get them on I think

942
00:42:15,400 --> 00:42:17,360
Speaker 1: it's like a family owned company. You can get the

943
00:42:17,400 --> 00:42:18,000
Speaker 1: money Amazon.

944
00:42:18,280 --> 00:42:21,440
Speaker 2: Okay, anything that you're like, absolutely not put that in

945
00:42:21,560 --> 00:42:22,239
Speaker 2: your dog's mouth.

946
00:42:22,400 --> 00:42:25,880
Speaker 1: Antlers, good one, anything hard like that. I can't I

947
00:42:25,880 --> 00:42:29,800
Speaker 1: see a fract right, a hard bone. Anything I can't

948
00:42:29,800 --> 00:42:33,400
Speaker 1: press my finger into out. I see so many fractured teeth.

949
00:42:33,480 --> 00:42:35,719
Speaker 2: What about those bones with like the like this, I

950
00:42:35,719 --> 00:42:37,920
Speaker 2: don't know what's your standard, like bone with like the

951
00:42:37,960 --> 00:42:40,480
Speaker 2: peanut butter stuff in there. I'm blanking on it.

952
00:42:40,680 --> 00:42:43,400
Speaker 1: Like a marrow bone. Yes, I mean those are also

953
00:42:43,440 --> 00:42:48,200
Speaker 1: really hard, like they can fracture their teeth and then

954
00:42:48,239 --> 00:42:49,600
Speaker 1: I got to go in and take the tooth out.

955
00:42:50,080 --> 00:42:50,760
Speaker 2: That's a process.

956
00:42:50,800 --> 00:42:54,000
Speaker 1: It's a process. I'm sweating, and you're spending thousand dollars.

957
00:42:54,320 --> 00:42:57,600
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, so veinary care.

958
00:42:58,040 --> 00:43:00,879
Speaker 1: We're going to I can't wait.

959
00:43:01,040 --> 00:43:01,680
Speaker 2: I can't wait.

960
00:43:02,880 --> 00:43:05,919
Speaker 1: Yump again and plugging them y omp. They make really

961
00:43:06,000 --> 00:43:09,480
Speaker 1: good soft soft but they're silicone, so they're still like

962
00:43:09,520 --> 00:43:12,880
Speaker 1: they can chew on them. Really great toys and bones

963
00:43:12,920 --> 00:43:16,239
Speaker 1: for dogs to chew on. That's the tea.

964
00:43:16,760 --> 00:43:18,560
Speaker 2: That's great. Yeah, awesome, Well.

965
00:43:18,400 --> 00:43:19,359
Speaker 1: Thank you so much for coming on.

966
00:43:19,520 --> 00:43:21,319
Speaker 2: Thank you for having me. This has been great and

967
00:43:21,360 --> 00:43:21,640
Speaker 2: you'll have.

968
00:43:21,640 --> 00:43:23,600
Speaker 1: To keep us posted. Well, I'll let people know what

969
00:43:23,640 --> 00:43:26,200
Speaker 1: happens if you guys moved to New York. If Teddy

970
00:43:26,239 --> 00:43:29,360
Speaker 1: gets a CCL face and needs it face, there's a lot.

971
00:43:29,239 --> 00:43:30,920
Speaker 2: On the horizon. Maybe we'll do a part two one

972
00:43:30,960 --> 00:43:32,440
Speaker 2: day and he'll be here once he's trained.

973
00:43:32,880 --> 00:43:38,120
Speaker 1: In five years, Teddy will come years old. All right, Well,

974
00:43:38,120 --> 00:43:40,359
Speaker 1: this has been a great first episode of season three,

975
00:43:40,719 --> 00:43:44,680
Speaker 1: and we have so many more great episodes to come

976
00:43:44,719 --> 00:43:47,680
Speaker 1: this season. We've got Lauren Aigins, We've got Victoria Fuller,

977
00:43:47,680 --> 00:43:50,640
Speaker 1: we have the head of the swat team that trains

978
00:43:50,640 --> 00:43:53,759
Speaker 1: all the swat dogs for the Nashville PD, Nikki the

979
00:43:53,800 --> 00:43:56,239
Speaker 1: trainer who we've talked about one hundred times. This episode

980
00:43:56,600 --> 00:43:59,759
Speaker 1: is also coming back, So stay tuned because it's going

981
00:43:59,800 --> 00:44:02,080
Speaker 1: to be awesome and I can't wait for you guys

982
00:44:02,120 --> 00:44:03,160
Speaker 1: to listen to it.

983
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Speaker 2: H