1 00:00:00,920 --> 00:00:06,559 Speaker 1: And now move the sticks with Daniel, Jeremiah and Bucky Brooks. 2 00:00:07,080 --> 00:00:08,600 Speaker 1: What's up everybody walking to move the stick? 3 00:00:08,720 --> 00:00:08,960 Speaker 2: DJ? 4 00:00:09,000 --> 00:00:13,240 Speaker 1: Bucky back with you and Buck. It's been a man, crazy, wild, 5 00:00:13,640 --> 00:00:16,200 Speaker 1: insane twenty four hours yesterday. 6 00:00:16,239 --> 00:00:20,560 Speaker 3: How are you doing, man, DJ, I'm good, but I 7 00:00:20,600 --> 00:00:23,320 Speaker 3: think you and I will kind of agree on this. 8 00:00:24,640 --> 00:00:27,240 Speaker 2: With Pete Carroll and then Nick Saban. 9 00:00:28,600 --> 00:00:31,360 Speaker 3: Kind of being bounced to remove or retire or whatever 10 00:00:31,400 --> 00:00:34,199 Speaker 3: we want to call it, and the same day, it 11 00:00:34,360 --> 00:00:36,320 Speaker 3: is crazy because it kind of played on the old 12 00:00:36,360 --> 00:00:40,520 Speaker 3: scout in me, like going to sc seeing Pete Carroll 13 00:00:40,560 --> 00:00:43,680 Speaker 3: in those things, going to Alabama, seeing Nick Sabing and 14 00:00:43,760 --> 00:00:48,200 Speaker 3: the machine talking about a man three day visits at 15 00:00:48,240 --> 00:00:50,879 Speaker 3: those schools because of the number of prospects that they have. 16 00:00:52,800 --> 00:00:53,920 Speaker 1: To see. 17 00:00:53,960 --> 00:00:56,840 Speaker 3: Both of those guys kind of I won't say they're 18 00:00:56,880 --> 00:00:59,920 Speaker 3: retired because Pete Carroll maybe he still wants to go. 19 00:01:00,200 --> 00:01:07,640 Speaker 3: But two polar opposite approaches having remarkable success. When you 20 00:01:07,640 --> 00:01:11,200 Speaker 3: think about Nick Saban old school, grinded out discipline, detailed 21 00:01:11,200 --> 00:01:13,920 Speaker 3: in those things, you think about Pete Carroll. He had 22 00:01:13,920 --> 00:01:16,120 Speaker 3: the discipline in the detail, but it was fun, loving, 23 00:01:16,240 --> 00:01:20,960 Speaker 3: it was electric. It was different to me. I just 24 00:01:21,040 --> 00:01:24,240 Speaker 3: remember looking at both of those programs fondly saying, oh, 25 00:01:24,319 --> 00:01:27,319 Speaker 3: you can skin the cat multiple ways, because both guys 26 00:01:27,319 --> 00:01:30,000 Speaker 3: had a lot of a lot of success, particularly at 27 00:01:30,000 --> 00:01:35,520 Speaker 3: the collegiate level, doing it drastically different for their programs 28 00:01:35,520 --> 00:01:36,560 Speaker 3: that were powerhouses. 29 00:01:36,880 --> 00:01:40,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, and look Bill Belichick and then that gets announced 30 00:01:40,480 --> 00:01:43,560 Speaker 1: the next morning, which was this morning as we're recording this, 31 00:01:43,680 --> 00:01:47,200 Speaker 1: that's that's it for him. And really you can connect 32 00:01:47,200 --> 00:01:49,800 Speaker 1: all three of these guys. That's really really connected. When 33 00:01:49,840 --> 00:01:54,000 Speaker 1: you think about Belichick following Pete Carroll, you think about 34 00:01:54,080 --> 00:01:56,559 Speaker 1: Pete Carroll and you know kind of who he learned 35 00:01:56,640 --> 00:01:58,600 Speaker 1: under and then who he mentored. I mean who was 36 00:01:58,600 --> 00:02:01,920 Speaker 1: on who coached under Pete Carroll, Sark and Lane who 37 00:02:02,720 --> 00:02:06,080 Speaker 1: needed to revitalize their offense at Alabama as the RPO 38 00:02:06,160 --> 00:02:08,840 Speaker 1: game got introduced and it was like, okay, let me 39 00:02:08,880 --> 00:02:11,040 Speaker 1: go get these these younger guys have kind of on 40 00:02:11,040 --> 00:02:13,480 Speaker 1: the cutting edge a little bit rehab. Both of them 41 00:02:13,520 --> 00:02:16,040 Speaker 1: got them both head coaching jobs out from under them. 42 00:02:16,360 --> 00:02:18,560 Speaker 1: But to me, I think when you look at all 43 00:02:18,560 --> 00:02:20,239 Speaker 1: three of them, and we'll go into the case by case, 44 00:02:20,240 --> 00:02:21,600 Speaker 1: but like, if we're going to talk about stuff that 45 00:02:21,600 --> 00:02:24,000 Speaker 1: these guys all have in common because no more different 46 00:02:24,000 --> 00:02:26,160 Speaker 1: personalities than the three of them. If you put Belichick 47 00:02:26,200 --> 00:02:29,280 Speaker 1: in here with these guys. But think about this when 48 00:02:29,320 --> 00:02:32,200 Speaker 1: you're when you're getting ready to hire a coach, Buck, 49 00:02:32,240 --> 00:02:34,560 Speaker 1: I feel like all three of these guys, Like if 50 00:02:34,600 --> 00:02:37,680 Speaker 1: you think about when you're in high school, forget coaches, 51 00:02:38,080 --> 00:02:40,320 Speaker 1: Like think about your teachers, Like, didn't we all had 52 00:02:40,320 --> 00:02:43,400 Speaker 1: a teacher like each of these guys, And you could 53 00:02:43,440 --> 00:02:46,080 Speaker 1: say they're all they're all great teachers, and there's different 54 00:02:46,160 --> 00:02:48,320 Speaker 1: ways to teach, but at the end of the day, 55 00:02:48,400 --> 00:02:52,360 Speaker 1: they are able to impart knowledge on people and able 56 00:02:52,440 --> 00:02:54,920 Speaker 1: to get them to execute. That's what these guys are there. 57 00:02:54,960 --> 00:02:56,440 Speaker 1: All three of them are great teachers. 58 00:02:56,919 --> 00:02:58,840 Speaker 3: Yeah did jall don't know if you're like this man, 59 00:02:58,880 --> 00:03:02,560 Speaker 3: But when I see any of the three aforementioned guys 60 00:03:02,840 --> 00:03:05,240 Speaker 3: talk about football on TV, I kind of perk up 61 00:03:05,240 --> 00:03:07,799 Speaker 3: and pay attention, you know, like Nick Saban over the 62 00:03:07,880 --> 00:03:10,079 Speaker 3: last year and you could probably tell he was his 63 00:03:10,160 --> 00:03:13,359 Speaker 3: swan song because I feel like all of us want 64 00:03:13,360 --> 00:03:15,000 Speaker 3: to leave the game in a better place, and so 65 00:03:15,080 --> 00:03:17,280 Speaker 3: when you're nearing the end, you begin to share more. 66 00:03:17,680 --> 00:03:21,680 Speaker 3: And I feel like he shared more of philosophy approach. 67 00:03:21,720 --> 00:03:23,720 Speaker 3: How do you deal with football and all that other stuff. 68 00:03:23,880 --> 00:03:26,639 Speaker 3: I feel like he's become kind of professor, teaching all 69 00:03:26,680 --> 00:03:28,600 Speaker 3: of us about the game. And then when you think 70 00:03:28,639 --> 00:03:31,320 Speaker 3: about Bill Belichick, if you ask him the right question, 71 00:03:31,480 --> 00:03:36,320 Speaker 3: he will give those answers and a longer snappers. Yeah, well, 72 00:03:36,360 --> 00:03:38,520 Speaker 3: he really educates you on the game, but you have 73 00:03:38,560 --> 00:03:40,800 Speaker 3: to know what to ask. And Pete Carroll has always 74 00:03:40,840 --> 00:03:44,200 Speaker 3: kind of been open about sharing philosophies and approaches and 75 00:03:44,320 --> 00:03:44,920 Speaker 3: those things. 76 00:03:46,120 --> 00:03:50,120 Speaker 2: You're right though about feeling like they were like the. 77 00:03:50,160 --> 00:03:53,960 Speaker 3: High school teacher. You're around the Chargers all the time. 78 00:03:54,000 --> 00:03:56,160 Speaker 3: I'm around the Jaguars, and I tell people all the 79 00:03:56,200 --> 00:03:59,240 Speaker 3: time like pro ball is no different really than high school. 80 00:03:59,240 --> 00:04:01,720 Speaker 3: You're just dealing with older guys who have money. But 81 00:04:01,800 --> 00:04:04,800 Speaker 3: the same lessons that are conveyed in a high school 82 00:04:04,840 --> 00:04:07,440 Speaker 3: locker room on a high school field are also. 83 00:04:07,280 --> 00:04:09,160 Speaker 2: Uttered in a pro locker room. 84 00:04:09,520 --> 00:04:12,640 Speaker 3: And those guys we talk about Sabing and Carol and 85 00:04:12,640 --> 00:04:15,360 Speaker 3: Bill Belichick, I think they took a high school approach 86 00:04:15,600 --> 00:04:17,960 Speaker 3: to the upper levels in terms of the way they 87 00:04:18,080 --> 00:04:22,680 Speaker 3: clearly outline what the expectations are. They were very clear 88 00:04:22,920 --> 00:04:25,320 Speaker 3: in terms of like the techniques that they taught and 89 00:04:25,400 --> 00:04:28,880 Speaker 3: the schemes and how they explain to the players. And 90 00:04:29,520 --> 00:04:32,760 Speaker 3: I think what people should do is, while we're talking 91 00:04:32,800 --> 00:04:35,560 Speaker 3: about their age and that stuff, I think we should 92 00:04:35,880 --> 00:04:40,360 Speaker 3: understand the mastery of teaching and leading that they provided. 93 00:04:39,880 --> 00:04:40,440 Speaker 2: All of us. 94 00:04:40,560 --> 00:04:44,200 Speaker 3: And whoever follows those guys in terms of like the 95 00:04:44,240 --> 00:04:46,800 Speaker 3: plans that they laid out, they're gonna end up being 96 00:04:47,040 --> 00:04:50,240 Speaker 3: great coaches if they're able to take the lessons that 97 00:04:50,279 --> 00:04:52,680 Speaker 3: they've shared with us on how to lead, how to 98 00:04:52,680 --> 00:04:55,880 Speaker 3: build a team, how to handle all these different situations. 99 00:04:56,400 --> 00:04:58,080 Speaker 3: I mean, because every time you hear them talk, man, 100 00:04:58,120 --> 00:04:59,839 Speaker 3: it's a masterclass in building a championship. 101 00:04:59,839 --> 00:05:02,720 Speaker 1: T So I want to go through each of these 102 00:05:02,760 --> 00:05:04,880 Speaker 1: one by one. And that was well said there, But 103 00:05:05,160 --> 00:05:07,920 Speaker 1: I mean when you look at Pete and you look 104 00:05:07,960 --> 00:05:10,360 Speaker 1: at what's next for them, DQ dan Quinn's the name 105 00:05:10,400 --> 00:05:13,840 Speaker 1: that keeps popping up. But I'm always fascinated. You know, 106 00:05:14,480 --> 00:05:16,560 Speaker 1: John Schnyder's done a wonderful job. There's a GM been 107 00:05:16,560 --> 00:05:18,280 Speaker 1: there for a long time and you know him going 108 00:05:18,320 --> 00:05:21,599 Speaker 1: back way back. But there's the decision to be made. 109 00:05:21,640 --> 00:05:24,200 Speaker 1: Do we keep it in the family or do we 110 00:05:24,240 --> 00:05:28,520 Speaker 1: want something new different? Do we want to bring in 111 00:05:28,560 --> 00:05:32,159 Speaker 1: a different voice and philosophy and see if we can 112 00:05:32,279 --> 00:05:34,360 Speaker 1: adapt and grow on top of what we're already doing. 113 00:05:34,400 --> 00:05:36,440 Speaker 1: I think that's going to be a fascinating decision there. 114 00:05:36,480 --> 00:05:40,279 Speaker 3: For John, I think it's hard to do it the 115 00:05:40,320 --> 00:05:43,159 Speaker 3: same because no matter what, even if you bring in 116 00:05:43,160 --> 00:05:47,520 Speaker 3: a dan Quinn, it can be similar to Pete's thing, 117 00:05:47,560 --> 00:05:49,880 Speaker 3: but it can't be Pete's thing, Like you can't replicate 118 00:05:49,960 --> 00:05:52,800 Speaker 3: what Pete was doing, And so you are right about 119 00:05:53,560 --> 00:05:56,560 Speaker 3: having to do it. I'll relate it to Look, I 120 00:05:56,600 --> 00:05:59,080 Speaker 3: went to Carolina. Carolina basketball was everything to me. 121 00:05:59,240 --> 00:06:00,120 Speaker 2: Dean Smith. 122 00:06:01,400 --> 00:06:03,760 Speaker 3: Retires every Guthridge and all those guys, and for so 123 00:06:03,880 --> 00:06:06,920 Speaker 3: long it's about keeping in the family and those things. Man, 124 00:06:06,960 --> 00:06:09,200 Speaker 3: it's hard. It's hard when you step it in and 125 00:06:09,240 --> 00:06:11,560 Speaker 3: replacing the legend. You kind of want to have your 126 00:06:11,600 --> 00:06:16,160 Speaker 3: own identity within whatever the culture that's already been established. 127 00:06:16,200 --> 00:06:18,719 Speaker 3: Like there's some things that we say are must have, 128 00:06:18,960 --> 00:06:21,360 Speaker 3: like fro must have culturally, There's some things that you 129 00:06:21,480 --> 00:06:24,080 Speaker 3: keep in place. But then the new coach also has 130 00:06:24,120 --> 00:06:27,040 Speaker 3: to be able to bring his own stuff to the mix. 131 00:06:27,520 --> 00:06:29,600 Speaker 3: And if you're John Snyder, not only the time that 132 00:06:29,640 --> 00:06:31,840 Speaker 3: you've had with Pete Carroll, but you got to remember 133 00:06:31,880 --> 00:06:33,760 Speaker 3: John Snyder spend a lot of time in Green Bay, 134 00:06:34,120 --> 00:06:36,080 Speaker 3: and in Green Bay he was with Ron Wolf and 135 00:06:36,600 --> 00:06:39,800 Speaker 3: he saw like Mike Holmgren and those guys win a championship. 136 00:06:39,839 --> 00:06:42,800 Speaker 3: So I'm sure he has his own thoughts on how 137 00:06:42,839 --> 00:06:46,600 Speaker 3: it can be cultivated and developed in those things. So 138 00:06:46,680 --> 00:06:48,479 Speaker 3: maybe it's not a lock that is going to be 139 00:06:48,600 --> 00:06:50,919 Speaker 3: inside the family. Maybe there's someone who could take a 140 00:06:50,920 --> 00:06:53,560 Speaker 3: little bit of what Pete has done. 141 00:06:53,600 --> 00:06:55,520 Speaker 2: And kind of expand it and make it even greater. 142 00:06:56,640 --> 00:06:59,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I'm kind of leaning that way, and 143 00:06:59,440 --> 00:07:01,200 Speaker 1: I love the and I think DQ will be a 144 00:07:01,240 --> 00:07:03,800 Speaker 1: great fit for a number of these jobs, and I 145 00:07:03,800 --> 00:07:06,360 Speaker 1: think he'll do a great job for me. I feel 146 00:07:06,440 --> 00:07:10,120 Speaker 1: like you're kind of bringing in someone so similar to 147 00:07:10,160 --> 00:07:13,000 Speaker 1: what you just had where I think I think it's 148 00:07:13,040 --> 00:07:15,720 Speaker 1: almost better to say, you know, maybe we'll go on 149 00:07:15,720 --> 00:07:18,040 Speaker 1: the offensive side of the ball and try and get 150 00:07:18,080 --> 00:07:20,760 Speaker 1: a new identity, get some new ideas, some new thoughts, 151 00:07:20,960 --> 00:07:24,160 Speaker 1: you know, just a newness to it, a freshness to it. 152 00:07:24,160 --> 00:07:25,960 Speaker 1: It almost feels to me like that would be a 153 00:07:26,000 --> 00:07:28,720 Speaker 1: better path for them to go. If you're looking to grow, 154 00:07:28,920 --> 00:07:31,240 Speaker 1: you're not looking to maintain, because right where they are 155 00:07:31,280 --> 00:07:33,000 Speaker 1: right now is not where they want to be. They 156 00:07:33,040 --> 00:07:35,480 Speaker 1: want to grow. So how do you grow if you're 157 00:07:35,480 --> 00:07:37,840 Speaker 1: doing the same exact things. I think there's a case 158 00:07:37,840 --> 00:07:39,160 Speaker 1: to be made of We're going to try and bring 159 00:07:39,240 --> 00:07:40,800 Speaker 1: it somebody on, maybe on the other side of the ball, 160 00:07:40,880 --> 00:07:43,080 Speaker 1: and then try and get some new ideas a fresh 161 00:07:43,120 --> 00:07:43,720 Speaker 1: approach here. 162 00:07:44,720 --> 00:07:46,000 Speaker 2: Okay, so what's interesting, right? 163 00:07:46,080 --> 00:07:47,720 Speaker 3: So one of the names that people have brought up 164 00:07:47,760 --> 00:07:49,400 Speaker 3: is not only Dan Quinn, but he brought up drewe 165 00:07:49,400 --> 00:07:51,560 Speaker 3: Canalis based on the success that he had down in 166 00:07:51,640 --> 00:07:54,640 Speaker 3: Tampa with Baker Mayfield, the fact that he had been 167 00:07:55,160 --> 00:07:59,040 Speaker 3: in Seattle for years Underpeat, got bypassed for the office 168 00:07:59,040 --> 00:08:02,080 Speaker 3: of coordinator job, stay as a quarterback coach, offensive assistant 169 00:08:02,160 --> 00:08:06,840 Speaker 3: and elevates in Tampa. You talk about offense fresh approach 170 00:08:07,280 --> 00:08:11,280 Speaker 3: year away in Tampa seeing it differently. Could he take 171 00:08:11,640 --> 00:08:15,120 Speaker 3: what he really liked about Pete Carroll stuff, but then 172 00:08:15,200 --> 00:08:17,640 Speaker 3: some of his own ideas that maybe he's learned from 173 00:08:17,680 --> 00:08:20,560 Speaker 3: his time at Tampa or just his own perspective on 174 00:08:20,640 --> 00:08:22,000 Speaker 3: how he would do things differently. 175 00:08:22,320 --> 00:08:23,080 Speaker 2: It would give you. 176 00:08:24,280 --> 00:08:26,120 Speaker 3: And you've always been an advocate of like man when 177 00:08:26,120 --> 00:08:29,400 Speaker 3: the head coach knows the quarterback like you have an 178 00:08:29,440 --> 00:08:33,160 Speaker 3: opportunity to maybe have some continuity when it comes to systems, 179 00:08:33,160 --> 00:08:35,719 Speaker 3: because office of coordinators may come and go, but the 180 00:08:35,800 --> 00:08:39,079 Speaker 3: head coach, if it's his stuff, the program never changes. 181 00:08:39,600 --> 00:08:44,400 Speaker 3: So maybe given that, given his success with Gina, maybe 182 00:08:44,440 --> 00:08:46,400 Speaker 3: he is able to come in there. 183 00:08:46,200 --> 00:08:47,240 Speaker 2: And kind of get it going. 184 00:08:47,280 --> 00:08:50,559 Speaker 3: And so you have a younger perspective that might resonate 185 00:08:50,600 --> 00:08:53,360 Speaker 3: better with the locker room because there were some things 186 00:08:53,400 --> 00:08:56,080 Speaker 3: that you heard about, like maybe Pete it kind of 187 00:08:56,240 --> 00:08:58,880 Speaker 3: I won't say detached from the locker room, but maybe 188 00:08:58,880 --> 00:09:01,559 Speaker 3: there were some things. But maybe a young guy who 189 00:09:02,320 --> 00:09:05,640 Speaker 3: is not necessarily on the radar but has ties to 190 00:09:05,679 --> 00:09:07,720 Speaker 3: the program comes back and kind of takes it to 191 00:09:07,720 --> 00:09:10,160 Speaker 3: another level because he hasn't always been in Seattle. 192 00:09:11,120 --> 00:09:13,679 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a it's a tough one, man, because I 193 00:09:13,720 --> 00:09:16,680 Speaker 1: do think having a knowledge, a working knowledge of who 194 00:09:16,679 --> 00:09:18,640 Speaker 1: the guy is and having been with him before, I 195 00:09:18,640 --> 00:09:21,880 Speaker 1: think you understand how that dynamic could work, you know, 196 00:09:21,920 --> 00:09:23,439 Speaker 1: in terms of bringing a head coach who's been in 197 00:09:23,480 --> 00:09:26,320 Speaker 1: your building before. I don't know, man, I can go 198 00:09:26,440 --> 00:09:28,200 Speaker 1: I go both ways on that. I could be I 199 00:09:28,240 --> 00:09:31,440 Speaker 1: could be convinced. I guess of guys who have ties there, 200 00:09:31,480 --> 00:09:34,400 Speaker 1: who have been there before. But I also just think, man, 201 00:09:34,480 --> 00:09:38,440 Speaker 1: you are You're in a division with San Francisco, Rock 202 00:09:38,480 --> 00:09:41,959 Speaker 1: Perdy is young, Kyle Shanahan's not going anywhere. They are 203 00:09:42,000 --> 00:09:44,760 Speaker 1: going to be a nightmare to deal with. So I 204 00:09:45,200 --> 00:09:49,240 Speaker 1: almost am like you're in a pickup game and it's like, Okay, 205 00:09:49,240 --> 00:09:51,800 Speaker 1: we lost. Okay, well here's our same five. We keep 206 00:09:51,800 --> 00:09:53,320 Speaker 1: the same five out there, and we go back at 207 00:09:53,400 --> 00:09:55,600 Speaker 1: him again. At some point time, you got to be like, man, 208 00:09:55,960 --> 00:09:57,560 Speaker 1: we got we gotta get somebody else in here, because 209 00:09:57,559 --> 00:10:01,080 Speaker 1: I don't think our five is good enough. And I players, 210 00:10:01,120 --> 00:10:03,400 Speaker 1: I think that's on the coaching side of things. Try 211 00:10:03,440 --> 00:10:05,040 Speaker 1: and get something more. They need more. 212 00:10:05,800 --> 00:10:08,120 Speaker 3: Okay, so think about let's talk about the coaches that 213 00:10:08,160 --> 00:10:10,760 Speaker 3: are in that division. So it's Kyle Shanhanden, Seanmanvay, two 214 00:10:10,760 --> 00:10:13,200 Speaker 3: of the best coaches that we can admit in the 215 00:10:13,240 --> 00:10:17,199 Speaker 3: game right now. Quarterback Matthew Stafford. How much longer he plays, 216 00:10:17,240 --> 00:10:18,719 Speaker 3: We don't know. Brock Berry's going to be there for 217 00:10:18,760 --> 00:10:21,400 Speaker 3: a minute. Then you go down to Arizona. Jonathan Gannon 218 00:10:21,480 --> 00:10:24,120 Speaker 3: to me, has been surprisingly impressive as a hit. 219 00:10:24,240 --> 00:10:24,640 Speaker 2: Good job. 220 00:10:25,240 --> 00:10:27,439 Speaker 3: Got more out of the Cardinals than I think anybody 221 00:10:27,600 --> 00:10:30,360 Speaker 3: could have imagined and it's not necessarily the wins and 222 00:10:30,360 --> 00:10:31,959 Speaker 3: losses is how they played. I think they played with 223 00:10:32,000 --> 00:10:34,160 Speaker 3: great effort. And so now you have a young quarterback 224 00:10:34,160 --> 00:10:36,920 Speaker 3: in Cali Murray and it appears that they are locked 225 00:10:36,960 --> 00:10:39,600 Speaker 3: in with him. So now the arms race in that 226 00:10:39,679 --> 00:10:43,040 Speaker 3: division better get your quarterback or you better have a 227 00:10:43,080 --> 00:10:46,600 Speaker 3: way to make your quarterback position play at a higher level. 228 00:10:46,920 --> 00:10:48,840 Speaker 3: And so that speaks to some of the stuff that 229 00:10:48,880 --> 00:10:50,960 Speaker 3: you have. So then some of the names that would 230 00:10:51,000 --> 00:10:53,120 Speaker 3: naturally pop up, like hey, with Ben Johnson be a 231 00:10:53,120 --> 00:10:55,760 Speaker 3: fit there? Could he take what he learned from Detroit, 232 00:10:56,840 --> 00:11:01,200 Speaker 3: add to it, enhance it, benefit from an experienced general 233 00:11:01,200 --> 00:11:06,080 Speaker 3: manager who has built championship caliber teams. Would he benefit 234 00:11:06,120 --> 00:11:08,720 Speaker 3: from that? Because the thing that I will always worry 235 00:11:08,760 --> 00:11:11,360 Speaker 3: about with a first time head coach, I think the 236 00:11:11,440 --> 00:11:14,160 Speaker 3: people dealing with the personnel need to be experienced. I 237 00:11:14,160 --> 00:11:17,000 Speaker 3: think it's a lot to have a lot of newbies everywhere. 238 00:11:17,160 --> 00:11:20,240 Speaker 3: I know Houston's doing it on the field, head coach, 239 00:11:20,840 --> 00:11:24,480 Speaker 3: officsive coordinator, quarterback. I still feel like there needs to 240 00:11:24,480 --> 00:11:28,280 Speaker 3: be like the wise elder in the room, Hey, let's 241 00:11:28,280 --> 00:11:29,360 Speaker 3: build the team this way. 242 00:11:29,480 --> 00:11:32,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, we coach it and those things. So I don't know. 243 00:11:32,559 --> 00:11:34,760 Speaker 2: Who are some other names that you think maybe could 244 00:11:34,760 --> 00:11:36,160 Speaker 2: fit in Seattle. 245 00:11:36,920 --> 00:11:41,480 Speaker 1: I'm looking this up here real quick. This is an article. 246 00:11:43,760 --> 00:11:47,400 Speaker 1: Gotta find the numbers here. Okay, I believe this is 247 00:11:47,640 --> 00:11:53,120 Speaker 1: correct now if I've updated. This article is out in October. Okay. 248 00:11:53,200 --> 00:11:56,040 Speaker 1: So Jim Schwartz with the Cleveland Browns, we were talking 249 00:11:56,040 --> 00:11:58,520 Speaker 1: about him a little before we came on air as 250 00:11:58,559 --> 00:12:01,200 Speaker 1: a defense corner. Obviously is a former head coach. I 251 00:12:01,280 --> 00:12:07,320 Speaker 1: believe he is nine and one against Kyle Shanahan. Ooh, 252 00:12:07,760 --> 00:12:10,200 Speaker 1: I mean who has that type of success when they've 253 00:12:10,200 --> 00:12:13,200 Speaker 1: lined up as coordinators, which Kyle Shanahan Collin plays on 254 00:12:13,240 --> 00:12:16,040 Speaker 1: offense and Jim Schwartz Collin plays on defense so much 255 00:12:16,080 --> 00:12:18,400 Speaker 1: so you know, if you look at the forty nine 256 00:12:18,440 --> 00:12:21,440 Speaker 1: ers defense they run, it's Jim Schwartz's defense. I mean, 257 00:12:21,520 --> 00:12:24,360 Speaker 1: Chris Caserk, the d Lion coach there, got his first 258 00:12:24,440 --> 00:12:27,480 Speaker 1: job underneath Jim Schwartz. They play that jet front, that 259 00:12:27,559 --> 00:12:30,960 Speaker 1: attacking front that they play. There's a lot of carryover 260 00:12:31,080 --> 00:12:34,560 Speaker 1: from what Jim Schwartz to defensively to what Kyle Shanahan 261 00:12:34,640 --> 00:12:38,280 Speaker 1: has instituted there in San Francisco. I haven't seen his 262 00:12:38,360 --> 00:12:40,600 Speaker 1: name mentioned with any interviews. I haven't heard anything there. 263 00:12:41,200 --> 00:12:43,560 Speaker 1: But if I'm in that division and I'm Seattle, and 264 00:12:43,600 --> 00:12:46,640 Speaker 1: I'm going, okay, previous head coaching experience, I don't think. 265 00:12:46,640 --> 00:12:49,800 Speaker 1: I think he's in his mid to late fifties. You know, 266 00:12:49,800 --> 00:12:51,880 Speaker 1: he took over an EN sixteen team there with the 267 00:12:51,920 --> 00:12:54,520 Speaker 1: Lions and ended up getting them into the playoffs. If 268 00:12:54,520 --> 00:12:56,520 Speaker 1: you take out his first year there where they were terrible, 269 00:12:56,559 --> 00:12:59,600 Speaker 1: I think he was probably a five hundred coach with Detroit. 270 00:13:00,120 --> 00:13:03,079 Speaker 1: Since won a Super Bowl in Philly. He's got Cleveland 271 00:13:03,160 --> 00:13:05,000 Speaker 1: right now with the number one defense in the NFL, 272 00:13:05,440 --> 00:13:08,079 Speaker 1: and he's had success against Kyle Shanahan. I sure to 273 00:13:08,120 --> 00:13:10,560 Speaker 1: bring him in to talk to him if I was Seattle. 274 00:13:12,640 --> 00:13:12,920 Speaker 2: Why not. 275 00:13:13,040 --> 00:13:16,400 Speaker 3: We always talk about that, and it has been funny 276 00:13:16,400 --> 00:13:19,319 Speaker 3: that he hasn't been mentioned because at a time where 277 00:13:19,360 --> 00:13:21,880 Speaker 3: we talking about guys getting second opportunity, so the name's 278 00:13:21,880 --> 00:13:24,640 Speaker 3: mentioned have been Dan Quinn, Rahie Morris has been mentioned 279 00:13:24,720 --> 00:13:26,480 Speaker 3: as a guy possibly getting the second opportunity to be 280 00:13:26,520 --> 00:13:29,280 Speaker 3: a head coach. Jim Schwartz has not done it. You 281 00:13:29,320 --> 00:13:32,280 Speaker 3: think about the circumstances that he stepped into in Detroit. 282 00:13:32,559 --> 00:13:34,000 Speaker 3: I think he took over the team when they were 283 00:13:34,000 --> 00:13:37,880 Speaker 3: coming off an to sixteen they were a season eventually 284 00:13:37,920 --> 00:13:39,839 Speaker 3: got them to the point where they got to the playoffs. 285 00:13:40,040 --> 00:13:42,600 Speaker 3: He dealt with a number one overall pick in Matthew 286 00:13:42,600 --> 00:13:46,520 Speaker 3: Stafford kind of nurtured him along the way, and then 287 00:13:46,640 --> 00:13:49,320 Speaker 3: you have seen since he was just missing Detroit, he's 288 00:13:49,360 --> 00:13:51,640 Speaker 3: kind of bounced around, but he's been a successful defensive 289 00:13:51,679 --> 00:13:55,560 Speaker 3: coordinator for a Super Bowl winner in Philadelphia. You're looking 290 00:13:55,600 --> 00:13:58,520 Speaker 3: at the Cleveland Browns right now, who have played with 291 00:13:58,640 --> 00:14:01,839 Speaker 3: four different quarterbacks. But yeah, at they're in the postseason 292 00:14:02,000 --> 00:14:05,199 Speaker 3: with an eleven win record and they have the number 293 00:14:05,200 --> 00:14:07,839 Speaker 3: one defense, So they didn't take make any excuses for 294 00:14:08,160 --> 00:14:12,199 Speaker 3: what the offense is doing to me. In these situations 295 00:14:12,200 --> 00:14:15,080 Speaker 3: when you're building and you're thinking about do I have 296 00:14:15,120 --> 00:14:18,440 Speaker 3: a guy in a leadership role that can handle adversity. 297 00:14:18,840 --> 00:14:20,480 Speaker 3: Does he have a track record of being able to 298 00:14:20,480 --> 00:14:24,680 Speaker 3: handle adversity. We now talk about quarterback development. Does he 299 00:14:24,720 --> 00:14:27,200 Speaker 3: have a track record of dealing with young quarterbacks and 300 00:14:27,280 --> 00:14:30,280 Speaker 3: building a team around young quarterbacks. 301 00:14:30,520 --> 00:14:31,080 Speaker 2: He's done that. 302 00:14:31,320 --> 00:14:34,160 Speaker 3: So there's certainly a lot of positive attributes that Jim 303 00:14:34,200 --> 00:14:37,400 Speaker 3: Schwartz would bring as a head coach, despite him seemingly 304 00:14:37,480 --> 00:14:40,600 Speaker 3: falling up, flying up under the radar, but whatever. 305 00:14:40,400 --> 00:14:42,880 Speaker 1: I haven't seen his name mentioned as getting any of 306 00:14:42,920 --> 00:14:44,320 Speaker 1: these interviews, so it's just kind of interesting. I just 307 00:14:44,360 --> 00:14:46,360 Speaker 1: think of all the different openings, you could make a 308 00:14:46,360 --> 00:14:48,480 Speaker 1: strong case that Seattle will be the one that should 309 00:14:48,480 --> 00:14:51,480 Speaker 1: probably be interested there if nothing else, I want to 310 00:14:51,480 --> 00:14:53,080 Speaker 1: pick his brain about just what the heck he's done 311 00:14:53,080 --> 00:14:56,000 Speaker 1: against Kyle Shanahan and the success that he's had against him. 312 00:14:56,160 --> 00:14:57,960 Speaker 1: That would be something I'd be curious about. 313 00:14:59,160 --> 00:15:03,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think some of these head coaching interviews should 314 00:15:03,880 --> 00:15:08,200 Speaker 3: be fact finding missions, whether you're seriously considering the candidate 315 00:15:08,280 --> 00:15:12,360 Speaker 3: or not. I want to know what others think about 316 00:15:12,360 --> 00:15:17,400 Speaker 3: my franchise, my team, my quarterback, those things. I want 317 00:15:17,440 --> 00:15:20,320 Speaker 3: to pick the brain on the division and maybe I 318 00:15:20,320 --> 00:15:24,400 Speaker 3: can glean a little insight from them on Okay, here's 319 00:15:24,520 --> 00:15:26,960 Speaker 3: maybe how I need to approach some of the other 320 00:15:26,960 --> 00:15:29,440 Speaker 3: stuff that we're trying to get done and building the 321 00:15:29,520 --> 00:15:32,160 Speaker 3: championship team. So Jim Swartz and some of these other 322 00:15:32,160 --> 00:15:35,920 Speaker 3: guys should have an opportunity to interview either zoom or 323 00:15:35,920 --> 00:15:38,160 Speaker 3: in person to be able to have that exchange of 324 00:15:38,240 --> 00:15:39,960 Speaker 3: ideas to see if they would be good fits. 325 00:15:40,720 --> 00:15:43,880 Speaker 1: Question for you We've got the Browns and the Texans. 326 00:15:44,560 --> 00:15:46,440 Speaker 1: The Jim Schwartz will be calling the defense for the 327 00:15:46,480 --> 00:15:49,320 Speaker 1: Cleveland Browns. Who's the offensive coordinator for the Houston Texans? 328 00:15:49,360 --> 00:15:51,720 Speaker 1: Bobby Slope? Where'd he come from? What tree is he underneath? 329 00:15:51,760 --> 00:15:52,040 Speaker 2: The buck? 330 00:15:52,160 --> 00:15:52,640 Speaker 3: Oh? 331 00:15:52,680 --> 00:15:54,240 Speaker 2: San Francisco, Kyle Shann. 332 00:15:54,240 --> 00:15:58,040 Speaker 1: It would be this would be my closing argument here 333 00:15:58,360 --> 00:16:01,400 Speaker 1: of Haye Seattle. This is the offense you guys see, 334 00:16:01,440 --> 00:16:03,200 Speaker 1: watch what I'm getting ready to do against them. I 335 00:16:03,240 --> 00:16:05,600 Speaker 1: don't know how it'll go, but I mean that would 336 00:16:05,640 --> 00:16:08,640 Speaker 1: be That would be my motivation if I was him, Like, hey, I. 337 00:16:08,680 --> 00:16:11,120 Speaker 2: Mean, look, look, it is one that is. 338 00:16:12,640 --> 00:16:15,680 Speaker 3: Quite interesting when when you think about it, like everyone 339 00:16:15,680 --> 00:16:18,480 Speaker 3: would have an opportunity to tune in in the postseason. 340 00:16:18,520 --> 00:16:22,920 Speaker 3: So some of the names that we talked about as candidates, Look, 341 00:16:22,960 --> 00:16:25,800 Speaker 3: your performance is your resume, and so now the football 342 00:16:25,800 --> 00:16:27,320 Speaker 3: world will have an opportunity to see you on a 343 00:16:27,320 --> 00:16:30,160 Speaker 3: big stage. There are no other games to distract us 344 00:16:30,160 --> 00:16:32,120 Speaker 3: from not being able to watch your game from beginning 345 00:16:32,160 --> 00:16:36,200 Speaker 3: to end. Gear up, show up your best stuff, don't 346 00:16:36,200 --> 00:16:38,160 Speaker 3: be distracted by it all. But yeah, a lot of 347 00:16:38,160 --> 00:16:40,479 Speaker 3: people would This is a resume builder for sure. 348 00:16:40,480 --> 00:16:42,360 Speaker 1: No question. All right, let's say quick break, we'll come back. 349 00:16:42,680 --> 00:16:45,040 Speaker 1: We'll talk about those other two with Bill Belichick as 350 00:16:45,040 --> 00:16:46,960 Speaker 1: well as Nick Saban jump into that right after this. 351 00:16:51,760 --> 00:16:55,080 Speaker 1: All right, bucket was an unbelievable run with Belichick, and 352 00:16:55,240 --> 00:16:57,160 Speaker 1: I think I've said it on here with you before. 353 00:16:57,200 --> 00:16:59,200 Speaker 1: I know we've talked about it off off camera, and 354 00:16:59,240 --> 00:17:01,280 Speaker 1: I believe we've even talked about on the pod, which 355 00:17:01,360 --> 00:17:04,280 Speaker 1: was I thought this was going to be it after 356 00:17:04,320 --> 00:17:09,119 Speaker 1: having visited New England with the Chargers and seeing it 357 00:17:09,160 --> 00:17:10,960 Speaker 1: was bad weather. You know, it wasn't a great day 358 00:17:11,000 --> 00:17:14,120 Speaker 1: to go out to a ballgame, but stadium wasn't full. 359 00:17:14,200 --> 00:17:16,680 Speaker 1: They didn't score a point. It was lifeless in there. 360 00:17:16,880 --> 00:17:20,040 Speaker 1: It was a rough watch. Bill Belichick is going to 361 00:17:20,119 --> 00:17:23,600 Speaker 1: go down as the greatest coach of all time. Arguably, 362 00:17:23,640 --> 00:17:27,560 Speaker 1: what he's accomplished in this competitive atmosphere that he's been in, 363 00:17:27,600 --> 00:17:29,439 Speaker 1: that he's coached in to have the success he's had 364 00:17:29,560 --> 00:17:31,080 Speaker 1: is gonna. I don't know who ever see anything like 365 00:17:31,119 --> 00:17:34,920 Speaker 1: it again, So his his place in history is very secure. 366 00:17:34,960 --> 00:17:37,320 Speaker 1: But it felt like this was time. It was time 367 00:17:37,359 --> 00:17:41,000 Speaker 1: for New England to get a fresh approach, more than 368 00:17:41,040 --> 00:17:43,520 Speaker 1: likely going to be accompanied by a new quarterback, new 369 00:17:43,560 --> 00:17:47,399 Speaker 1: coach and become a more watchable product than they've been 370 00:17:47,440 --> 00:17:49,399 Speaker 1: the last couple of years. So I understood it. I 371 00:17:49,400 --> 00:17:52,679 Speaker 1: thought it would happen here we are. The question is 372 00:17:53,359 --> 00:17:56,520 Speaker 1: where would you go in terms of how you follow 373 00:17:56,560 --> 00:17:58,400 Speaker 1: up Bill Belichick and what you're looking for. 374 00:18:00,560 --> 00:18:03,320 Speaker 3: Look, man, it's kind of similar to the same conversation 375 00:18:03,400 --> 00:18:05,919 Speaker 3: we had about following up Pete Carroll. The difference is 376 00:18:06,119 --> 00:18:09,080 Speaker 3: Pete Carroll had one Ring one super Bowl title. 377 00:18:09,720 --> 00:18:11,119 Speaker 2: Bill Belichick has six. 378 00:18:11,680 --> 00:18:16,320 Speaker 3: The standard for Boston fans is, Look, it's gonna be crazy, 379 00:18:16,359 --> 00:18:19,960 Speaker 3: how because like when you think about the culture in Boston, 380 00:18:20,040 --> 00:18:21,800 Speaker 3: like there was a twenty year run where they not 381 00:18:21,840 --> 00:18:25,560 Speaker 3: only won with the Patriots, the Celtics one, the Bruins one, 382 00:18:25,840 --> 00:18:26,919 Speaker 3: the Red Sox one. 383 00:18:27,240 --> 00:18:29,679 Speaker 2: I mean, it was just like Ring City. 384 00:18:30,240 --> 00:18:35,280 Speaker 3: And so this team will always, you know, kind of 385 00:18:35,680 --> 00:18:38,600 Speaker 3: remain dear to the fan base because they expect to win. 386 00:18:38,680 --> 00:18:41,800 Speaker 3: And when you win six in a twenty plus year period. 387 00:18:41,960 --> 00:18:42,719 Speaker 2: It's hard to do it. 388 00:18:45,280 --> 00:18:47,320 Speaker 3: What I think is it's hard to just Look, it's 389 00:18:47,320 --> 00:18:50,320 Speaker 3: hard to replicate what Bill Belichick did. It's hard to 390 00:18:50,320 --> 00:18:52,320 Speaker 3: do to do your job thing, It's gonna be hard 391 00:18:52,359 --> 00:18:55,800 Speaker 3: to do the team thing, and the quiet and not 392 00:18:55,960 --> 00:18:57,480 Speaker 3: share and open up with the media. 393 00:18:58,119 --> 00:18:59,520 Speaker 2: But it's also gonna be hard. 394 00:18:59,280 --> 00:19:02,800 Speaker 3: To duplicate the success that he had on the field 395 00:19:02,800 --> 00:19:06,000 Speaker 3: for such a long time. I know people would talk 396 00:19:06,040 --> 00:19:08,760 Speaker 3: about Mike Rabel. He certainly's all they're talking about. That's 397 00:19:08,760 --> 00:19:09,400 Speaker 3: all they're talking about. 398 00:19:09,400 --> 00:19:11,040 Speaker 1: But it's the same discussion we just had, right do 399 00:19:11,080 --> 00:19:12,280 Speaker 1: you want to keep it in the family or do 400 00:19:12,280 --> 00:19:13,520 Speaker 1: you want to branch out? 401 00:19:13,600 --> 00:19:16,320 Speaker 3: And then they also talk about Jiraimeo because it seemed 402 00:19:16,359 --> 00:19:19,600 Speaker 3: like there may have been like a little handshake, nod 403 00:19:19,640 --> 00:19:23,000 Speaker 3: wink agreement because he put out of head coaching things 404 00:19:23,040 --> 00:19:26,720 Speaker 3: or whatever. But I don't know, man, Like, this is 405 00:19:26,760 --> 00:19:29,399 Speaker 3: a tough one and it's a big job. I mean, 406 00:19:29,400 --> 00:19:32,080 Speaker 3: it's a big job to feel because everyone that was 407 00:19:32,119 --> 00:19:34,800 Speaker 3: poop pulling on Bill Belichick over the past year or two. 408 00:19:35,760 --> 00:19:38,199 Speaker 3: Next year he's gonna be the greatest thing that they 409 00:19:38,280 --> 00:19:41,800 Speaker 3: ever remember, and that new coach has to stand up 410 00:19:41,800 --> 00:19:43,879 Speaker 3: in that and deal with all the pressure that comes 411 00:19:43,880 --> 00:19:47,080 Speaker 3: with that. Not an easy job and not an easy fix. 412 00:19:46,920 --> 00:19:48,040 Speaker 2: Because they don't have a quarterback. 413 00:19:48,960 --> 00:19:52,840 Speaker 1: My question is, if you looked around the league, is 414 00:19:52,880 --> 00:19:55,919 Speaker 1: there a team like in baseball? The Chicago Cubs had 415 00:19:56,240 --> 00:19:59,800 Speaker 1: a good manager who was popular there that they ended 416 00:19:59,880 --> 00:20:04,200 Speaker 1: up firing because Craig councils available, and they felt like, hey, 417 00:20:04,640 --> 00:20:06,119 Speaker 1: if we have a chance, if we're if this is 418 00:20:06,160 --> 00:20:07,879 Speaker 1: a game about margins, and we have a good one, 419 00:20:07,880 --> 00:20:09,200 Speaker 1: and we got a chance to get a great one 420 00:20:09,600 --> 00:20:11,320 Speaker 1: much as we love the good one, good one's got 421 00:20:11,320 --> 00:20:13,119 Speaker 1: to go, and we're gonna go after the great one. 422 00:20:13,560 --> 00:20:16,000 Speaker 1: Like people are talking about Bill Belichick and what's next 423 00:20:16,000 --> 00:20:18,520 Speaker 1: for him. I see Atlanta as one that's often mentioned 424 00:20:19,400 --> 00:20:22,080 Speaker 1: as a potential landing spot, but I almost wonder, and 425 00:20:22,080 --> 00:20:23,560 Speaker 1: I don't know who that team is. You can say 426 00:20:23,680 --> 00:20:26,280 Speaker 1: the Cowboys, the success they've had. If one of these 427 00:20:26,320 --> 00:20:30,960 Speaker 1: teams that's ready to go right now gets bounced early 428 00:20:31,000 --> 00:20:33,800 Speaker 1: in the postseason, does an owner sit there and say, man, 429 00:20:33,840 --> 00:20:36,440 Speaker 1: we are we are on the cusp of a championship, 430 00:20:36,560 --> 00:20:38,600 Speaker 1: and I have a good coach. Do I swap out 431 00:20:38,800 --> 00:20:40,280 Speaker 1: and try and bring in Belichick and see if I 432 00:20:40,320 --> 00:20:42,320 Speaker 1: can't get a ring here in the next couple of years. 433 00:20:42,960 --> 00:20:44,480 Speaker 3: I wondered a bet that, And then I also wonder 434 00:20:44,480 --> 00:20:46,640 Speaker 3: if age will be used against some seventy one years 435 00:20:46,680 --> 00:20:49,760 Speaker 3: old How long can someone can't expect someone to reason 436 00:20:49,840 --> 00:20:51,879 Speaker 3: be coached but I'll say this, Look, man, he's as 437 00:20:51,920 --> 00:20:54,840 Speaker 3: sharp as they come. That defense played really well and 438 00:20:54,840 --> 00:20:56,560 Speaker 3: Spider Man, if they had an offense, they would give 439 00:20:56,560 --> 00:20:57,960 Speaker 3: them anything. They would have won a ton of games 440 00:20:58,000 --> 00:21:00,240 Speaker 3: because they lost a bunch of one score games games 441 00:21:01,359 --> 00:21:01,960 Speaker 3: last season. 442 00:21:04,400 --> 00:21:05,960 Speaker 2: DJ is is tough. 443 00:21:06,040 --> 00:21:10,920 Speaker 3: I think for him or Belichick, Atlanta would be interesting. 444 00:21:11,000 --> 00:21:13,760 Speaker 3: They've dealt with the New England thing kind of when 445 00:21:13,760 --> 00:21:16,280 Speaker 3: Thomas Dimitrov and PODi and all those guys with there. 446 00:21:16,320 --> 00:21:17,200 Speaker 2: It might not have been. 447 00:21:17,080 --> 00:21:21,200 Speaker 3: As fool LEDs New England, but they've dealt with that 448 00:21:21,640 --> 00:21:26,520 Speaker 3: model a little bit. The Washington Commanders, to me would 449 00:21:26,560 --> 00:21:31,520 Speaker 3: be interesting because look, man, he's a historian and he 450 00:21:31,560 --> 00:21:34,600 Speaker 3: remembers when that franchise was everything like that's that's one 451 00:21:34,600 --> 00:21:37,040 Speaker 3: of the blue blood franchisees International Football League. They just 452 00:21:37,080 --> 00:21:39,240 Speaker 3: fall in the hard times for so long that we 453 00:21:39,280 --> 00:21:43,399 Speaker 3: don't remember DJ. They would offer him an opportunity really 454 00:21:43,440 --> 00:21:45,359 Speaker 3: to set and establish the culture from. 455 00:21:45,200 --> 00:21:46,440 Speaker 2: Top to bottom. 456 00:21:46,760 --> 00:21:48,800 Speaker 3: If you Josh Harrish, you ask him to bring somebody 457 00:21:48,840 --> 00:21:51,480 Speaker 3: else in the handle the personnel and to get it right. 458 00:21:51,960 --> 00:21:54,159 Speaker 3: To me, that is a team that needs what he 459 00:21:54,440 --> 00:21:58,520 Speaker 3: offers in terms of the discipline, the detail, the. 460 00:21:58,520 --> 00:21:59,440 Speaker 2: Learning how to win. 461 00:22:00,280 --> 00:22:03,760 Speaker 3: He provides that I would think the Commanders would be 462 00:22:03,800 --> 00:22:06,080 Speaker 3: a unique situation to be able to do it. And 463 00:22:06,440 --> 00:22:08,080 Speaker 3: you have to look at the rest of the division. 464 00:22:08,119 --> 00:22:11,840 Speaker 3: The Giants are down, the. 465 00:22:11,520 --> 00:22:12,879 Speaker 1: Eagles have come back to Earth. 466 00:22:13,000 --> 00:22:16,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, and then you have the Cowboys. Man, when 467 00:22:16,119 --> 00:22:18,359 Speaker 3: you think about like a worst to first or a 468 00:22:18,440 --> 00:22:22,240 Speaker 3: quick turnaround, perhaps you have some stuff in place where 469 00:22:22,240 --> 00:22:24,160 Speaker 3: you can turn that thing around quickly in Washington. 470 00:22:24,760 --> 00:22:25,000 Speaker 2: Yeah. 471 00:22:25,119 --> 00:22:28,520 Speaker 1: No, it's uh got managine to see what he does. 472 00:22:28,640 --> 00:22:33,080 Speaker 1: I selfishly hope that he coaches again, you know, and 473 00:22:33,600 --> 00:22:35,119 Speaker 1: gets a chance to go hunt one down. I think 474 00:22:35,160 --> 00:22:37,920 Speaker 1: it would be I think it would be pretty cool 475 00:22:37,960 --> 00:22:40,160 Speaker 1: if he were able to go get one without Tom 476 00:22:40,280 --> 00:22:42,919 Speaker 1: after Tom went out and got one without him. He 477 00:22:42,960 --> 00:22:45,800 Speaker 1: didn't have the obviously, he was in charge of the roster, 478 00:22:45,880 --> 00:22:47,840 Speaker 1: so he owned some of the blame there, if not 479 00:22:48,040 --> 00:22:50,359 Speaker 1: most of the blame. Offensively, they just didn't have the 480 00:22:50,359 --> 00:22:52,640 Speaker 1: people there to compete at that type of a level. 481 00:22:52,720 --> 00:22:55,000 Speaker 1: So maybe he identifies a place that has the offense 482 00:22:55,080 --> 00:22:56,399 Speaker 1: in place and goes, hey, I'll come in here and 483 00:22:56,400 --> 00:22:57,960 Speaker 1: fix the defense, and I can go win my ring 484 00:22:58,000 --> 00:23:01,320 Speaker 1: without Tom after he won one without Yeah. 485 00:23:01,359 --> 00:23:06,040 Speaker 3: Look, yes, to be looking at that, and the competitor 486 00:23:06,840 --> 00:23:09,600 Speaker 3: in him has to want to go and win all 487 00:23:09,640 --> 00:23:12,359 Speaker 3: over again and show people like when you're a great player, 488 00:23:12,359 --> 00:23:14,879 Speaker 3: you're a great coach. You always want to remind people 489 00:23:14,920 --> 00:23:18,280 Speaker 3: of your greatness. We talk about Saban. I think Saban's 490 00:23:18,440 --> 00:23:22,000 Speaker 3: last season really reminded us of his greatness. Even though 491 00:23:22,040 --> 00:23:25,040 Speaker 3: they feel short of winning the title, the fact that 492 00:23:25,040 --> 00:23:28,919 Speaker 3: they took Michigan the overtime, they knocked off Georgia, and 493 00:23:28,960 --> 00:23:31,920 Speaker 3: you could reasonably say, man if Alabama gets to the 494 00:23:31,960 --> 00:23:33,600 Speaker 3: championship game, does he win another one? 495 00:23:34,160 --> 00:23:35,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, you know what I'm saying. 496 00:23:35,000 --> 00:23:39,280 Speaker 3: Like so, so I do wonder if Belichick kind of 497 00:23:39,280 --> 00:23:44,199 Speaker 3: gets his comeupp and by going somewhere and leading, it 498 00:23:44,240 --> 00:23:47,360 Speaker 3: makes the charges an attractive things. 499 00:23:47,520 --> 00:23:52,560 Speaker 1: Quarterback should be ready to go. Yeah, you got to 500 00:23:52,560 --> 00:23:54,520 Speaker 1: get you got to figure out the salary cap stuff. 501 00:23:54,560 --> 00:23:56,399 Speaker 1: But there were their position in the draft. They can 502 00:23:56,440 --> 00:23:57,760 Speaker 1: solve the problems. 503 00:23:58,160 --> 00:24:00,679 Speaker 3: As from older players in place, because you know he 504 00:24:01,080 --> 00:24:05,560 Speaker 3: owe the players high high IQ defense. Imagine what he 505 00:24:05,560 --> 00:24:08,080 Speaker 3: could do and I know people have talked there there 506 00:24:08,400 --> 00:24:11,200 Speaker 3: not being what he was cool. I saw him take 507 00:24:11,320 --> 00:24:13,520 Speaker 3: Rodney Harrison and do a lot of fun things, and 508 00:24:13,560 --> 00:24:17,440 Speaker 3: everybody Harrison was done to you know, like he's done 509 00:24:17,480 --> 00:24:19,119 Speaker 3: a lot of stuff. We guys that they felt like 510 00:24:19,200 --> 00:24:22,280 Speaker 3: we're declining. It would be interesting. Obviously the money would 511 00:24:22,280 --> 00:24:24,680 Speaker 3: be a point. And how much control do you want 512 00:24:24,680 --> 00:24:29,560 Speaker 3: to necessarily relent to someone who would seemingly want they 513 00:24:29,560 --> 00:24:31,000 Speaker 3: have all the power, even though I don't know how 514 00:24:31,040 --> 00:24:32,119 Speaker 3: much stead is really true. 515 00:24:32,520 --> 00:24:35,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, no, it's it's interesting, man, absolutely is interesting. 516 00:24:36,240 --> 00:24:36,560 Speaker 2: All right. 517 00:24:36,600 --> 00:24:39,919 Speaker 1: The last one of the trio here, Nick Saban. Uh, 518 00:24:40,040 --> 00:24:42,280 Speaker 1: he decides to retire. We had talked about this before 519 00:24:42,440 --> 00:24:44,800 Speaker 1: I thought this was coming. Uh, this rumor had been 520 00:24:44,880 --> 00:24:48,240 Speaker 1: out there for a while. I mean, the greatest college 521 00:24:48,240 --> 00:24:50,439 Speaker 1: coach that we've seen during our lifetime. I don't think 522 00:24:50,480 --> 00:24:54,159 Speaker 1: that's even debatable with what he's done. My question is, 523 00:24:54,480 --> 00:24:56,359 Speaker 1: and it looks like Dan Lanning as we're recording this, 524 00:24:56,720 --> 00:24:59,439 Speaker 1: has announced he's staying at Oregon. So as we're recording this, 525 00:24:59,480 --> 00:25:01,440 Speaker 1: we don't know who. Maybe when you're listening to it's 526 00:25:01,440 --> 00:25:06,040 Speaker 1: already been announced. I don't think it'll take long. But God, Lee, 527 00:25:06,119 --> 00:25:07,520 Speaker 1: you gotta pay me a ton of money. Come in 528 00:25:07,560 --> 00:25:10,760 Speaker 1: there and follow Nick Saban. Man, you want to be 529 00:25:10,800 --> 00:25:12,400 Speaker 1: the guy who follows the guy, not the guy who 530 00:25:12,400 --> 00:25:14,359 Speaker 1: follows you. Want to be the guy who follows the 531 00:25:14,400 --> 00:25:15,400 Speaker 1: guy who followed the guy. 532 00:25:16,160 --> 00:25:17,520 Speaker 2: No thank you, yeah, no thank you. 533 00:25:17,600 --> 00:25:20,280 Speaker 3: On the Alabama thing, it's like all those guys that 534 00:25:20,720 --> 00:25:22,640 Speaker 3: follow behind Bear Bryant when he left, and it wasn't 535 00:25:22,720 --> 00:25:25,480 Speaker 3: until Gene Stalin's took go over that they were able 536 00:25:25,480 --> 00:25:27,440 Speaker 3: to go back and win a national title and those things, 537 00:25:27,440 --> 00:25:29,800 Speaker 3: and didn't think about when Geene Stalin's stuff, how they 538 00:25:29,840 --> 00:25:31,880 Speaker 3: had to cycle it over a few different times before 539 00:25:31,920 --> 00:25:33,639 Speaker 3: they were able to get Nick Saban. 540 00:25:34,240 --> 00:25:35,440 Speaker 2: Now it's a difficult job. 541 00:25:35,440 --> 00:25:39,879 Speaker 3: And now that the expectation DJ with Saban and with Belichick, man, 542 00:25:39,920 --> 00:25:43,520 Speaker 3: they put the bar so high because you're not supposed 543 00:25:43,600 --> 00:25:47,320 Speaker 3: to win six national titles in a seventeen year span, 544 00:25:48,040 --> 00:25:50,480 Speaker 3: but because you're Alabama. Like I saw the stat where 545 00:25:50,480 --> 00:25:53,840 Speaker 3: they said none of his recruiting classes that were there 546 00:25:53,880 --> 00:25:57,680 Speaker 3: for four years walked out without a national championship ring. 547 00:25:57,760 --> 00:25:59,760 Speaker 1: This is the I think this is the first one, right, 548 00:25:59,800 --> 00:26:02,600 Speaker 1: this is a I know, I know, like I saw 549 00:26:02,600 --> 00:26:04,400 Speaker 1: something of the day, like Terry On Arnold who came 550 00:26:04,400 --> 00:26:05,840 Speaker 1: out and I think maybe he was just because he 551 00:26:05,920 --> 00:26:08,159 Speaker 1: was just there for three years, but he you know, 552 00:26:08,440 --> 00:26:10,439 Speaker 1: I might even have been even three years, like so 553 00:26:10,480 --> 00:26:12,680 Speaker 1: that they didn't win one this year, this group of 554 00:26:13,000 --> 00:26:14,800 Speaker 1: three of you guys didn't win one, which is the 555 00:26:14,840 --> 00:26:16,600 Speaker 1: first time I think during savings time. 556 00:26:16,600 --> 00:26:19,440 Speaker 3: Which which which is which is unbelievable, And so that's 557 00:26:19,480 --> 00:26:22,680 Speaker 3: what you're chasing. And so to follow that up and 558 00:26:23,359 --> 00:26:26,200 Speaker 3: to do that, No, that's that's I am not envious 559 00:26:26,320 --> 00:26:28,520 Speaker 3: of whoever takes that job, but it should be one 560 00:26:28,560 --> 00:26:30,919 Speaker 3: that look as a coveted job. He set it up 561 00:26:30,920 --> 00:26:32,800 Speaker 3: with all the resources and all the other stuff they 562 00:26:32,800 --> 00:26:37,000 Speaker 3: have everything. Alabama is a brand name they can recruit 563 00:26:37,160 --> 00:26:38,760 Speaker 3: and when Alabama. 564 00:26:38,280 --> 00:26:39,560 Speaker 2: Calls're gonna pick up the phone. 565 00:26:40,000 --> 00:26:40,119 Speaker 1: Uh. 566 00:26:40,200 --> 00:26:41,159 Speaker 2: It's a big hire. 567 00:26:41,640 --> 00:26:46,119 Speaker 3: Uh. The thing about it, DJ, all of the assistants 568 00:26:46,119 --> 00:26:50,600 Speaker 3: that have left in are well positioned. Man like Kirby, 569 00:26:50,600 --> 00:26:52,480 Speaker 3: you're not gonna leave. I didn't think Dan Lanny would 570 00:26:52,520 --> 00:26:54,919 Speaker 3: leave Oregon to go because you're already established. 571 00:26:56,960 --> 00:26:57,160 Speaker 2: Man. 572 00:26:57,200 --> 00:26:59,040 Speaker 3: I don't know, like, I don't know who could you 573 00:26:59,160 --> 00:27:01,120 Speaker 3: talk about inside outside the family? 574 00:27:02,760 --> 00:27:04,760 Speaker 2: Who can you bring for that job? It has to 575 00:27:04,800 --> 00:27:07,080 Speaker 2: be someone who has just. 576 00:27:06,920 --> 00:27:10,960 Speaker 3: An unbelievable amount of confidence, an unbelievable track record, and 577 00:27:11,000 --> 00:27:13,080 Speaker 3: they're ready to deal with all the things and arrows 578 00:27:13,080 --> 00:27:15,960 Speaker 3: that come with taking their job. After the man who 579 00:27:15,960 --> 00:27:18,320 Speaker 3: has a statue in front of the thing. Here's a 580 00:27:18,359 --> 00:27:21,440 Speaker 3: statue him and Bear Bryant. So that's what you're competing. 581 00:27:21,080 --> 00:27:22,560 Speaker 2: With at Alabama. 582 00:27:22,920 --> 00:27:25,960 Speaker 3: You're competing not only would Nick Saban, but Nick Saban 583 00:27:26,000 --> 00:27:26,679 Speaker 3: and Bear Bryant. 584 00:27:26,760 --> 00:27:29,959 Speaker 2: Those are the standard bears for the program. Yeah. Man, 585 00:27:29,960 --> 00:27:31,520 Speaker 2: I always said to somebody else. 586 00:27:31,680 --> 00:27:35,160 Speaker 1: I was talking to a coaches agent, so he represents coaches, 587 00:27:35,320 --> 00:27:37,919 Speaker 1: and he said, you know, we'll see it. Everybody anticipates 588 00:27:38,200 --> 00:27:39,639 Speaker 1: is what I think we both do. The Harball is 589 00:27:39,680 --> 00:27:43,240 Speaker 1: gonna leave, so you'll have Harball leave. Nick's gonna leave. 590 00:27:44,560 --> 00:27:48,920 Speaker 1: His prediction was that unless things get changed with the portal. 591 00:27:49,760 --> 00:27:52,760 Speaker 1: Nil is one thing and all that, but really the portal, 592 00:27:52,800 --> 00:27:56,720 Speaker 1: more than anything else, has become exhaustive for these coaches. 593 00:27:56,760 --> 00:27:58,199 Speaker 1: And every time you talk about these people go, oh, 594 00:27:58,240 --> 00:28:01,119 Speaker 1: they get paid so much money, you know, stop complaining. No, No, 595 00:28:01,160 --> 00:28:06,240 Speaker 1: they've what coaching was previously where in college, you know, 596 00:28:06,280 --> 00:28:08,560 Speaker 1: you got a little bit of downtime in the summer. 597 00:28:08,600 --> 00:28:10,160 Speaker 1: You know, you did a couple camps, but you got 598 00:28:10,160 --> 00:28:13,159 Speaker 1: a little bit of a break and you got some 599 00:28:13,320 --> 00:28:15,399 Speaker 1: family time. You know, you actually have a little bit 600 00:28:15,440 --> 00:28:17,440 Speaker 1: of balance, and it was okay if I just recruit 601 00:28:17,520 --> 00:28:20,840 Speaker 1: really hard and then I coach really hard, those are 602 00:28:20,840 --> 00:28:22,840 Speaker 1: two full time jobs. But I can do that. I'm 603 00:28:22,840 --> 00:28:26,320 Speaker 1: comfortable with that. You get well compensated. But now you're 604 00:28:26,320 --> 00:28:31,320 Speaker 1: having to basically defend your turf constantly with your own 605 00:28:31,440 --> 00:28:34,919 Speaker 1: roster getting rated while also keeping tabs on everybody else's 606 00:28:35,000 --> 00:28:37,800 Speaker 1: roster and how you can upgrade your team. And it's 607 00:28:37,840 --> 00:28:41,640 Speaker 1: basically NonStop. It is year round. It never relents. And 608 00:28:41,680 --> 00:28:44,840 Speaker 1: so what this agent was telling me was, you're going 609 00:28:44,880 --> 00:28:48,760 Speaker 1: to see coaches that hit like forty eight fifty years 610 00:28:48,760 --> 00:28:50,720 Speaker 1: old at the top of their game say I've got 611 00:28:50,800 --> 00:28:54,560 Speaker 1: enough money, I'm out. I'm out. I'm just this is 612 00:28:54,600 --> 00:28:56,640 Speaker 1: not worth it anymore. I'll take my money and go 613 00:28:56,680 --> 00:28:59,720 Speaker 1: have some semblance of a life. Or you're going to 614 00:28:59,760 --> 00:29:02,480 Speaker 1: see the better coaches that have opportunities to go to 615 00:29:02,560 --> 00:29:05,320 Speaker 1: the NFL. Let's say I'm not. The NFL is going 616 00:29:05,360 --> 00:29:07,960 Speaker 1: to become more attractive than it's ever been. Whereas I 617 00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:10,880 Speaker 1: think in the previous if you went back five years ago, 618 00:29:11,560 --> 00:29:14,320 Speaker 1: you could make the case the college a power. You know, 619 00:29:14,800 --> 00:29:17,120 Speaker 1: one of the blue blood coaching jobs in college is 620 00:29:17,160 --> 00:29:19,040 Speaker 1: better than an NFL job because you have all the 621 00:29:19,080 --> 00:29:22,680 Speaker 1: control all the power, you get paid handsomely, then you 622 00:29:22,720 --> 00:29:25,640 Speaker 1: have more security. I don't think that's the case anymore. 623 00:29:27,120 --> 00:29:30,880 Speaker 2: It's not the case. It's a twenty four seven, three 624 00:29:30,840 --> 00:29:31,520 Speaker 2: sixty five. 625 00:29:31,840 --> 00:29:35,440 Speaker 3: And I remember saving talking about just the challenge of 626 00:29:35,520 --> 00:29:38,400 Speaker 3: this season being in the middle of the college football 627 00:29:38,440 --> 00:29:41,000 Speaker 3: playoff preparations while having to deal with the signing date 628 00:29:41,440 --> 00:29:43,960 Speaker 3: in the middle of all of it. So you're not 629 00:29:44,040 --> 00:29:47,160 Speaker 3: only preparing for one of the biggest games that you 630 00:29:47,160 --> 00:29:50,200 Speaker 3: can have in your coaching career, you're also chasing a 631 00:29:50,280 --> 00:29:52,240 Speaker 3: bunch of seventeen and eighteen years trying to make sure 632 00:29:52,240 --> 00:29:54,080 Speaker 3: that you can entice them to come to your school. 633 00:29:54,840 --> 00:29:56,960 Speaker 2: It's never ending. And then not only are you dealing 634 00:29:56,960 --> 00:29:57,960 Speaker 2: with that, you're. 635 00:29:57,840 --> 00:30:01,520 Speaker 3: Having these kind of exit meetings with guys who are 636 00:30:01,560 --> 00:30:04,760 Speaker 3: considering jumping into portal and what's my future like and 637 00:30:05,280 --> 00:30:08,720 Speaker 3: all of that. Man, it's Nonstopj's NonStop. And you're just 638 00:30:08,760 --> 00:30:10,640 Speaker 3: looking at the way teams are being constructed at the 639 00:30:10,680 --> 00:30:14,240 Speaker 3: collegiate level with transfers and all this other stuff is 640 00:30:14,320 --> 00:30:17,520 Speaker 3: just such a transient thing. In essence, what you're doing 641 00:30:17,560 --> 00:30:22,440 Speaker 3: in college is you're playing NFL football with younger kids, 642 00:30:23,280 --> 00:30:26,320 Speaker 3: and it's a lot to control. 643 00:30:26,560 --> 00:30:29,160 Speaker 1: Here's the pushback. Here's the pushback I got from somebody 644 00:30:29,200 --> 00:30:32,960 Speaker 1: on that topic was he's like this person at coaching 645 00:30:33,000 --> 00:30:35,560 Speaker 1: college and in the NFL, and he said, everybody's saying 646 00:30:35,600 --> 00:30:37,760 Speaker 1: the college games, like the NFL, you guys have free agency. 647 00:30:37,800 --> 00:30:37,880 Speaker 2: Now. 648 00:30:37,960 --> 00:30:39,720 Speaker 1: It's like, no, in the NFL, if i'd signed a 649 00:30:39,720 --> 00:30:41,840 Speaker 1: guy to a three year contract, four year contract, he 650 00:30:41,880 --> 00:30:45,040 Speaker 1: can't leave. In college, you could have an NIL agreement 651 00:30:45,080 --> 00:30:47,920 Speaker 1: with somebody for you know, three four years. Two weeks later, 652 00:30:47,960 --> 00:30:49,320 Speaker 1: they can walk on your office and say, I want 653 00:30:49,320 --> 00:30:51,120 Speaker 1: another four hundred thousand dollars. I'm going to go to 654 00:30:51,120 --> 00:30:52,560 Speaker 1: another program that's willing to give it to me. Like 655 00:30:52,600 --> 00:30:56,680 Speaker 1: they're not bound to anything. So it's it's much worse 656 00:30:57,760 --> 00:31:00,400 Speaker 1: than coaching in the NFL and dealing with free This 657 00:31:00,440 --> 00:31:02,400 Speaker 1: is free agency where they're not bound to the contract. 658 00:31:02,520 --> 00:31:03,200 Speaker 1: Like it's insane. 659 00:31:04,520 --> 00:31:07,240 Speaker 2: I mean, it is insane when you hear the money 660 00:31:07,240 --> 00:31:08,480 Speaker 2: that is thrown around and. 661 00:31:09,880 --> 00:31:12,560 Speaker 3: You know people, you know, we talk about people like 662 00:31:12,800 --> 00:31:15,760 Speaker 3: the constant negotiations that go on when it comes to 663 00:31:15,840 --> 00:31:17,560 Speaker 3: the NIL stuff, it's bananas, man. 664 00:31:17,600 --> 00:31:19,680 Speaker 2: I don't know how anybody can do it. 665 00:31:19,720 --> 00:31:22,280 Speaker 3: Like it is just a lot to manage and you're 666 00:31:22,320 --> 00:31:24,680 Speaker 3: trying to do it in a team sport where you 667 00:31:24,800 --> 00:31:27,960 Speaker 3: also are trying to educate guys. You want guys to 668 00:31:28,000 --> 00:31:29,040 Speaker 3: graduate and all that. 669 00:31:29,160 --> 00:31:29,520 Speaker 2: It is. 670 00:31:30,160 --> 00:31:33,080 Speaker 3: It's a mess right now, and coaches are pulled in 671 00:31:33,120 --> 00:31:35,280 Speaker 3: so many different directions. And I know, say, hey, man, 672 00:31:35,280 --> 00:31:37,120 Speaker 3: I'm making ten million dollars. Don't feel sorry for me. 673 00:31:37,160 --> 00:31:39,640 Speaker 3: I'm just I just don't know how you sustain success 674 00:31:40,280 --> 00:31:42,600 Speaker 3: in the current model that we have. It's just a 675 00:31:42,640 --> 00:31:45,040 Speaker 3: lot of stress and a lot of pressure to be 676 00:31:45,080 --> 00:31:47,080 Speaker 3: able to get it done. Because the other part that 677 00:31:47,160 --> 00:31:50,720 Speaker 3: happens is when boosters are involved more than they've been 678 00:31:50,760 --> 00:31:54,760 Speaker 3: in before, because now they're involved with their checkbook. Well, 679 00:31:55,120 --> 00:31:58,040 Speaker 3: the expectations are different. So now it's not only a 680 00:31:58,160 --> 00:32:00,440 Speaker 3: I need to go talk to the AD I have 681 00:32:00,480 --> 00:32:03,000 Speaker 3: to now go talk to the boosters because I'm asking 682 00:32:03,040 --> 00:32:05,600 Speaker 3: them for this money and I got to justify while 683 00:32:05,600 --> 00:32:08,880 Speaker 3: we're only eight and five after spending googabs of money 684 00:32:08,920 --> 00:32:10,360 Speaker 3: on all these nil deals. 685 00:32:10,560 --> 00:32:11,920 Speaker 2: A lot to deal with if you're a coach. 686 00:32:12,320 --> 00:32:15,760 Speaker 1: Man, No, it's fascinating times, man, in football. That being said, 687 00:32:15,800 --> 00:32:18,320 Speaker 1: we're coming off of a great playoff where man, I 688 00:32:18,400 --> 00:32:20,080 Speaker 1: enjoyed watching those games and I'm excited to see the 689 00:32:20,080 --> 00:32:22,760 Speaker 1: twelve team playoff. I think college football is healthy from 690 00:32:22,760 --> 00:32:25,120 Speaker 1: that standpoint, no doubt. I just think, you know, we're 691 00:32:25,120 --> 00:32:28,120 Speaker 1: talking about coaches specifically. I think it's gonna we'll see 692 00:32:28,120 --> 00:32:30,720 Speaker 1: the impact of this over the next few years unless 693 00:32:30,760 --> 00:32:34,480 Speaker 1: something gets changed. So we'll have to wait and see 694 00:32:34,880 --> 00:32:36,120 Speaker 1: anything else you want to get to before we get 695 00:32:36,160 --> 00:32:38,800 Speaker 1: out of here. Buck busy day, no busy day, man Like. 696 00:32:38,840 --> 00:32:41,760 Speaker 3: Look, I just want to make sure we give each 697 00:32:41,800 --> 00:32:44,840 Speaker 3: of those coaches their flowers. Bill Belichick, Nick Saban, Pete 698 00:32:44,880 --> 00:32:48,040 Speaker 3: Carroll changed the game in so many different ways. There's 699 00:32:48,160 --> 00:32:51,080 Speaker 3: a legion of coaches that look up to those guys 700 00:32:51,080 --> 00:32:54,040 Speaker 3: and have followed some of the lessons that these guys 701 00:32:53,800 --> 00:32:57,680 Speaker 3: have kind of taught the coaching community. And I think, look, 702 00:32:57,720 --> 00:32:59,400 Speaker 3: I'm gonna be sad to see some of these guys 703 00:32:59,440 --> 00:33:02,880 Speaker 3: not on the side lines again. Hopefully in the case 704 00:33:02,920 --> 00:33:05,240 Speaker 3: of Bill Belichick and maybe Pete Carroll, maybe to give 705 00:33:05,280 --> 00:33:08,440 Speaker 3: one more, one more bided the apple, one more the apple, 706 00:33:08,440 --> 00:33:10,360 Speaker 3: because Pete Carroll didn't sound like he was ready to 707 00:33:10,400 --> 00:33:10,800 Speaker 3: go away. 708 00:33:11,000 --> 00:33:13,400 Speaker 1: No, he was going kicking his screen and he fought 709 00:33:13,400 --> 00:33:17,040 Speaker 1: for that job. He fought at that job. We'll see 710 00:33:17,080 --> 00:33:20,640 Speaker 1: we'll see where they land. But you're right, unbelievably accomplished 711 00:33:20,640 --> 00:33:24,880 Speaker 1: individuals who've left a lasting legacy on the sport, no doubt. 712 00:33:25,240 --> 00:33:26,440 Speaker 1: All right, that's going to do it for us today. 713 00:33:26,480 --> 00:33:28,160 Speaker 1: We'll be back tomorrow with one more episode where we 714 00:33:28,200 --> 00:33:31,320 Speaker 1: will preview the upcoming playoff game, so be on the 715 00:33:31,320 --> 00:33:34,080 Speaker 1: lookout for that. Until then, I hope you have a wonderful, 716 00:33:34,120 --> 00:33:36,560 Speaker 1: wonderful day, and we'll see you tomorrow right here on 717 00:33:36,680 --> 00:33:51,840 Speaker 1: moving sticks.