Speaker 1: On this incredibly sad episode of the Heat Check, we
Speaker 1: have an emergency episode. I'm tremendously gutted because someone I
Speaker 1: was lucky enough to call a friend, Jerry West, passed
Speaker 1: away today. In honor of the man that they call
Speaker 1: the logo, I'm going to repost part of an over
Speaker 1: two hour interview that I did with him in the
Speaker 1: summer of twenty twenty two. That's the kind of guy
Speaker 1: he was, Anthony sad day for all hoops fans around
Speaker 1: the world. Let's get into it. Let's drop that fucking beat.
Speaker 2: This should be re honors.
Speaker 3: So I was at a farmer's.
Speaker 1: Market today and I got a text for a friend
Speaker 1: who I normally see at summer leak. I was thinking
Speaker 1: it would be the normal Hey are you going to
Speaker 1: be at summer leak question or a month out to
Speaker 1: the day, and the text was I'm sorry for your loss.
Speaker 1: And I checked Safari my phone and I saw that
Speaker 1: Jerry West had passed away at eighty six. The greatest
Speaker 1: basketball mind to ever walk the face of the earth.
Speaker 1: And he would tell you that by the way he
Speaker 1: would say, I'm not one of the best, I am
Speaker 1: the best. Don't you forget it? Don't you fucking forget it.
Speaker 1: I have known Jerry for almost a decade, since the
Speaker 1: first days I was in sports media. We were actually
Speaker 1: born on the same day. As we got to know
Speaker 1: each other, I realized, you know, he's obviously not only
Speaker 1: one of the best basketball minds on planet Earth, which
Speaker 1: I could have known without ever knowing him, but he's
Speaker 1: one of the best humans I've ever run across as well.
Speaker 1: Every summer leak he would find something to say that
Speaker 1: was not only hilarious but insightful. I remember we talked
Speaker 1: last year about Buddy Heald. He said, Buddy Heild, Buddy Hild,
Speaker 1: that boy dumb is a stump, But that shit was true,
Speaker 1: and that's the kind of guy Jerry West was. Insightful, funny,
Speaker 1: wasn't trying to hurt anybody, but always came through as honest, cutting, playful,
Speaker 1: and smart. He would tell me exactly who he liked
Speaker 1: and what he liked about any particular players game, even
Speaker 1: the most obscure player like Nemas Cada. He could tell
Speaker 1: you everything about the MIAs Cada in his background and
Speaker 1: where he had gone and what kind of kid he was.
Speaker 1: And told me about Victor Webinyama last year and two
Speaker 1: years ago actually, and how Africa through France was going
Speaker 1: to start taking over the league. He told me I
Speaker 1: had too much of a fascination with Paolo ban Carrol
Speaker 1: and that Palo was one of the most gifted passers
Speaker 1: that he had seen, but he needed to work on
Speaker 1: his handles. That guy was just a walking encyclopedia. And
Speaker 1: the thing is he was just almost never wrong. Summer
Speaker 1: League after Summer League, he pinned almost everybody correctly. Even
Speaker 1: when the Norm Powell trade looked, he still continued to
Speaker 1: be resolute and Norm Powell was an incredibly important contributor
Speaker 1: for the LA Lakers. I would plant my seat courtside
Speaker 1: next to him and I would not leave because what
Speaker 1: he would say was more information than I would get
Speaker 1: in the entire year. So this is only part of
Speaker 1: a multi part interview that I posted. I suggest you
Speaker 1: go back and listen to all three parts. Maybe we'll
Speaker 1: post more later if you want it, because it's that good.
Speaker 1: The sound quality I wish was better, God, I wish
Speaker 1: it was better. We recorded at a Starbucks during a
Speaker 1: convention at the Summer League. Some weird convention was getting
Speaker 1: lunch at the same point that we recorded, and I
Speaker 1: remember some guy offered to buy him his pastry. In line,
Speaker 1: I said to the guy, what do you need to
Speaker 1: buy this fucker guy, this fucking guy's pastry for he's
Speaker 1: more money than God is y you use me buy
Speaker 1: you a pastry. He laughed at me, body checked me,
Speaker 1: and he bought the other guy's pastry. Anyway, there's a
Speaker 1: ton of ambient noise. It's worth listening to. The information
Speaker 1: is worth trying very hard to listen to. I promise
Speaker 1: Summer League will.
Speaker 4: Never be the same, and neither of the league. Fuck dude,
Speaker 4: but the legacy of Jerry West will live on forever.
Speaker 4: In peace to my Gemini twin, We'll see.
Speaker 1: You on the other side.
Speaker 5: Tylo was one of the ones who ran a player
Speaker 5: off the floor.
Speaker 3: We saw it in the Utah series, but they were down.
Speaker 3: I want to say three to one. That series against.
Speaker 5: The mass and that series against Utah was the series where.
Speaker 3: I really said to myself, Okay.
Speaker 5: I was incredibly wrong about ty Lou because the brand.
Speaker 3: Or the reputation was okay.
Speaker 5: He had Lebron, Lebron and Kyrie, but his his coaching
Speaker 5: against the MAVs and his coaching against the Jazz was
Speaker 5: really impressive.
Speaker 6: He's simply one of the best coaching Lewis people don't
Speaker 6: know yet and playing for him just like, Okay, I'm
Speaker 6: not afraid and Willis and I would say when people
Speaker 6: talking about coaches, he the f the.
Speaker 7: With o'clock three in the league, this coaching the more importantly,
Speaker 7: he's a fantastic guy and which.
Speaker 8: Is so easy to be around.
Speaker 6: And more importantly, he's so smart and he has a great,
Speaker 6: great way about him employer because you know, he's not
Speaker 6: that old, and I drafted him when I was in
Speaker 6: Los Angeles and he's just the bullbop that he's trying.
Speaker 6: But I feel fortunate to who Bark coaches all the
Speaker 6: fun Roy, we'd have a fend reason puting your cool
Speaker 6: best players.
Speaker 8: You know him, it's amazing that we won with the
Speaker 8: mini games.
Speaker 5: Do you have a favorite Tylo story that sort of
Speaker 5: highlights and personifies him?
Speaker 9: I do, but I can't talk.
Speaker 8: I have a lot of them with that aflick.
Speaker 7: You know, you rom one for some reason, he's got
Speaker 7: a different personality and he can be really funny to
Speaker 7: you know, to be very part and there's a lot
Speaker 7: of things that you know, you talk about always knock
Speaker 7: the best slang leads a.
Speaker 8: Player, but he's he's easy to be around, you really
Speaker 8: expect I don't think.
Speaker 1: Here in the middle of describing what makes Tyl so special,
Speaker 1: he also takes time to fire shots at the play
Speaker 1: in tournament, the play in which I.
Speaker 8: Don't like at all.
Speaker 6: I think it's a horrible mistury because you know, you
Speaker 6: can take one game and decide the season worth of work.
Speaker 8: I just don't like it.
Speaker 7: And I'm sure if you Mission probably doesn't want to
Speaker 7: give him the Senate at the hang time.
Speaker 6: I just think it's worthless to me and the danger
Speaker 6: and the danger is that these teams are flood over
Speaker 6: year and the label year. If you get a couple
Speaker 6: of injuries where you can't they can't play for a
Speaker 6: couple of the gamer one game to decide, you see it,
Speaker 6: that's gonna good.
Speaker 8: I just I don't like it.
Speaker 9: I've just heard.
Speaker 8: I don't know what the concept is.
Speaker 3: Legit hilarious.
Speaker 1: The funniest thing about this clip is how Jerry answers
Speaker 1: the question about how far the Clippers could have gone
Speaker 1: last year in the playoffs, considering I think it's pretty
Speaker 1: wide open. The fact that the MAVs got through, the
Speaker 1: fact that the Suns were exposed, the fact that the
Speaker 1: Warriors broke through the Bucks got injured. Seemed like the
Speaker 1: Clippers had a real shot if they were healthy, right.
Speaker 1: He humbly talks about really how it doesn't matter because
Speaker 1: we can never go backwards. But then he also says
Speaker 1: something fascinating. He says, you know, teams are gonna defenses
Speaker 1: are gonna wait on you. But when you have really
Speaker 1: elite players, it doesn't matter whether they wait on you
Speaker 1: or not.
Speaker 10: Nothing you can do to stop them.
Speaker 9: I E.
Speaker 10: Kawhi, I E.
Speaker 1: Paul George, kind of a subtle like, yeah, I think
Speaker 1: we could have gone deep. He also addresses whether Kawhi
Speaker 1: could have come back act in the playoffs, if they
Speaker 1: would have made the playoffs and Paul George didn't get
Speaker 1: COVID and they didn't lose to the Pelicans, and finally,
Speaker 1: whether Kauai is any different than the outside world views him,
Speaker 1: considering that they have a very good relationship. Really insightful,
Speaker 1: really interesting stuff.
Speaker 5: If Paul George doesn't get coked or going to health
Speaker 5: and safety protocols against the Pelicans, how far do the
Speaker 5: Clippers go?
Speaker 3: Do you think last year, given how wide opening was, well.
Speaker 8: I'm not sure if them wide open, it was a
Speaker 8: really good team.
Speaker 6: But I will say this through you can thick them
Speaker 6: fanned last year and they found the way.
Speaker 8: Then it's hard in the playoffs and.
Speaker 9: Those more floats.
Speaker 6: From the pages they had a chance to see and play,
Speaker 6: you know, and half the time is there this defensers
Speaker 6: are waiting on me, And if you have those truly
Speaker 6: great players, it doesn't make any difference.
Speaker 8: They still be waiting on it, and they were being
Speaker 8: part of it and saw and that's kind of hurts enough.
Speaker 8: I mean, it's only a guess. I kind of you
Speaker 8: look at that. To me, it's a hand in yell.
Speaker 9: And estually didn't work out that.
Speaker 5: Was there a scenario if there was a long playoff
Speaker 5: run that Kawhi could have come back in the playoffs.
Speaker 8: I'm pretty sure he could. I'm pretty sure he could.
Speaker 6: And to get him obviously get him back is like
Speaker 6: a god said, and uh, he wasn't and we didn't
Speaker 6: get there, so we'll never know.
Speaker 5: You mentioned that people misunderstand you. Do you think that
Speaker 5: people misunderstand Kawai as well? Do you think he's different
Speaker 5: than the outside world sees him no easy say.
Speaker 6: I love what he's he's a basketball player, okay, and
Speaker 6: just watching him work out and see how.
Speaker 9: Serious he is.
Speaker 3: So he's not as playful as as you.
Speaker 6: Oh I'm much more play Yeah, but I'm much crazier him.
Speaker 6: He has a much greater focus working out on him.
Speaker 6: But you know he's if you're around him when he
Speaker 6: first game there isn't obviously you know, I wasn't running
Speaker 6: the team, but I go to crackers, went around all
Speaker 6: the time.
Speaker 9: You know, you're just trying him.
Speaker 6: You watch and you watch and watch, and you probably
Speaker 6: tead An appreciate you, Uh, what's your greatness that he
Speaker 6: has as a player, But you you wanted sometimes you know,
Speaker 6: want doesn't talk of that.
Speaker 8: Well, he's been there. I have had the pleasure of
Speaker 8: getting to know him a little bit better, and it's
Speaker 8: impossible not to be infatuated. And he's got a wide
Speaker 8: sense of humor.
Speaker 9: He's he's a pro.
Speaker 8: He really did.
Speaker 1: The thing about this clip that was so interesting, not
Speaker 1: only in the fact that the Clippers weakness was passing
Speaker 1: last year and that was the admission, is that when
Speaker 1: describing John Wall, Jerry says that John Wall is a
Speaker 1: great guy, but his reputation around those who cover the
Speaker 1: league is not that he has been known to be
Speaker 1: someone that pundits take shots at for being too self
Speaker 1: focused or who knows. So I wanted to get out
Speaker 1: why John Wall was such a polarizing figure. And another
Speaker 1: thing that came out of this process though, was a
Speaker 1: little nugget and what the Clippers vetting process was like
Speaker 1: in acquiring a player like john and how he also
Speaker 1: thinks the Clippers are the deepest team in the league
Speaker 1: and he wouldn't trade it for anybody else.
Speaker 3: John Wall one of the biggest I would say pickups.
Speaker 5: One of the most interesting pickups that took forever in
Speaker 5: the day to actually come to fruition. A lot of people,
Speaker 5: I think thought that deal would get done or that
Speaker 5: move would get made last year.
Speaker 3: What does he bring to the team, Well, he.
Speaker 7: Fans I never guy looked like to play basketball. He
Speaker 7: can get in the lane, you find our three point shooters.
Speaker 7: It's probably weakness in our team last year.
Speaker 6: Passing he will give us in ninth grade and being
Speaker 6: able to attack with the basket.
Speaker 8: And he's a good guy. Okay, he loves to play
Speaker 8: and we're.
Speaker 6: Just hopeful that he can stay healthy and watching him
Speaker 6: work out, he looked fantastic, great Shay and he's.
Speaker 8: Bringing he's been working out all year. That would be
Speaker 8: a pretty good vacation to make that kind of money
Speaker 8: and not get a chance to play. I would have
Speaker 8: liked it. No, would have been probably a forty four thousand.
Speaker 5: You mentioned great guy, and he's a polarizing figure too.
Speaker 5: There's been people who have said things about him and
Speaker 5: I don't know that they necessarily know him. Well, why
Speaker 5: do you think there's this like, I don't know, disparity
Speaker 5: in terms of the opinion on him as.
Speaker 3: A as a guy.
Speaker 8: You know what, I don't see it. You know, people
Speaker 8: the same thing and watch you about and maybe.
Speaker 6: Not been clear the rumor from any known silistas we
Speaker 6: see all the found it.
Speaker 8: I always say, would identify these Slnson sent time.
Speaker 9: It just does not.
Speaker 8: That's not who he is.
Speaker 11: Is that who you've said about that's really like And
Speaker 11: a lot of our players know him, and so as
Speaker 11: all our player comes somewhere, Uh have you we checked
Speaker 11: the players.
Speaker 8: I mean protect the ones that know him?
Speaker 12: And Uh, while we've heard of the good things and
Speaker 12: all I can go and say, just what's your high
Speaker 12: seed at that moment, is how you know know about that?
Speaker 8: And who's this again? And you're really good for us
Speaker 8: right now. So it's not just starting to see him.
Speaker 9: We will we will seeing one pay any game starts.
Speaker 8: Because this is a powerful thing, the Clippers a powerful thing.
Speaker 8: The note from one to three thing. I did not
Speaker 8: play just it's the team for anything that they That
Speaker 8: doesn't mean we're the best team, but I would not
Speaker 8: play for anything.
Speaker 3: Or do you think they're the deepest team?
Speaker 8: That's why I say one three third finger? Yeah, yes,
Speaker 8: I see.
Speaker 1: So this question was out of left field, no segue,
Speaker 1: There was no connection to him or the Clippers or anything.
Speaker 1: I just wanted to know, how do you build a
Speaker 1: roster around Brod James. If it's you, Jerry West, and
Speaker 1: all you have is Lebron, what do you do? How
Speaker 1: do you best set him up for success? How do
Speaker 1: you build around him in a way that makes your
Speaker 1: team more likely to win a championship but also accentuates
Speaker 1: what makes Lebron so great? Pretty simple, awesome stuff from Jerry.
Speaker 5: I'm curious about Lebron and him as a style of player.
Speaker 5: Obviously dominant, that's been said, but if you have Lebron
Speaker 5: on your team and no one else, what do you
Speaker 5: think is the best way to build a roster around
Speaker 5: someone like him or him specifically.
Speaker 6: Again, yeah, if you look at him, if it makes him,
Speaker 6: he's already missed his game. He's one of the smartest
Speaker 6: players have definite player that way. I think he's better
Speaker 6: with an open force. I would try to have a
Speaker 6: team that shooting.
Speaker 8: I could run. People can run, and.
Speaker 6: That's names that you play and seek an attacking him.
Speaker 6: He's gonna pick out people on the run. That's beams
Speaker 6: really about him. And sometimes when he gets involved down
Speaker 6: in a half put, if you have another player playing
Speaker 6: with him and you know, let's say you're because he's
Speaker 6: so worthily Moon and other players you're.
Speaker 8: Playing up from when he wins, I think that's hurting
Speaker 8: a little bit.
Speaker 3: We think it would be better in the block.
Speaker 6: Oh no, no, yeah, right now he gates fates and
Speaker 6: say because the size and the fastest ability, he's one
Speaker 6: of the three greatest players in the player.
Speaker 9: He's an out falling figure.
Speaker 6: He's gonna break every record in this leader and he's
Speaker 6: someone that greatly amount pas like, how do uh, it's
Speaker 6: hard to do?
Speaker 8: What he's done, but he cares about the un cares
Speaker 8: about winning.
Speaker 6: Who's rhythmed to take care of himself when you ever
Speaker 6: hear anything bad about him, Yeah, he is a consoo.
Speaker 5: But it's guys not necessarily point guards because he plays that,
Speaker 5: but combo guards that can shoot the three and also.
Speaker 3: Handle and pass and kind of kind of that's that.
Speaker 5: Long, versatile defender that you guys like that the Toronto
Speaker 5: likes somebody challenge.
Speaker 8: Yeah, that's a challenge because the problem is with the
Speaker 8: team on him. They're usually drafting very low. Yes, they
Speaker 8: don't get in.
Speaker 9: Any area where they can find on those players.
Speaker 8: It doesn't have to be in the top ten. They
Speaker 8: should do more good.
Speaker 6: Later than half or eleast second round, they might find
Speaker 6: a player like that.
Speaker 8: And hopefully that will that will happen. That's a.
Speaker 9: Just a different role thing.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's interesting.
Speaker 5: Rosters with him on it look different than other rosters
Speaker 5: that people construct, just.
Speaker 3: Because of all the unique things that he can do.
Speaker 6: Well, you put you know, you put him with players
Speaker 6: that are where he didn't every night just have it
Speaker 6: doesn't have it scoring row. He knows a lot better
Speaker 6: than well and people don't realize how wearing and how
Speaker 6: dependent the people that.
Speaker 8: Come home and they're just taking some granted, and so
Speaker 8: he doesn't have night and he's you need but some height.
Speaker 8: How hard you trying to spread it? Sometimes you just can't.
Speaker 8: You can't note shots if you normally made.
Speaker 6: And he's only been to score because he's going to
Speaker 6: dwell a file and get into three fair manuge.
Speaker 8: But he's a player that he really great me and
Speaker 8: you've been billing it for so long.
Speaker 6: Get guy, Yeah, CHRISTI sess he's had he's had to say,
Speaker 6: he's gonna break all the all the records.
Speaker 8: He've been there for a number of year. That's the
Speaker 8: amazing tribute if not only if his play, but you're
Speaker 8: doing willing.
Speaker 1: So a little behind the scenes here, so before I
Speaker 1: ask this question, and I'm a little hesitant in asking it,
Speaker 1: so I'm a little long winded in getting there.
Speaker 3: So I'm trying to get him to.
Speaker 1: Address winning time.
Speaker 10: I'm trying to figure out way to do that.
Speaker 1: And I've had lunch with Jerry a few times, and
Speaker 1: I've been out with them socially as well, and I've
Speaker 1: never seen him drink, not one time, not once, So
Speaker 1: to me, it was really fascinated that Winning Time made
Speaker 1: him look like an alcoholic, just made him look like
Speaker 1: a guy who throws his trophy through his office window,
Speaker 1: and that he's at the bar getting fucked up meeting
Speaker 1: his future wife. Crazy shit, I was cause I saw
Speaker 1: a Winning Time after we met extremely sus at this depiction,
Speaker 1: So I asked him about alcohol use, thinking that might
Speaker 1: lead us into the Winning Time discussion. But we actually
Speaker 1: ended up on this really interesting side road somehow about
Speaker 1: the blueprint on giving constructive criticism, how you balance being
Speaker 1: brutally honest and being a relationship guy, because I think
Speaker 1: that's insanely hard to balance. And then somehow we got
Speaker 1: on the role of social media and debate show talking
Speaker 1: heads in today's NBA.
Speaker 10: Then he throws subtle shade at the Lakers, at stephen
Speaker 10: A and JJ Reddick.
Speaker 3: What a turn.
Speaker 1: Did not expect this, By the way, Gotta remember we're
Speaker 1: about an hour and a half into this interview and
Speaker 1: he is cooking.
Speaker 5: One of the craziest things that I saw. And then
Speaker 5: I've known about you for a long time is that
Speaker 5: you don't drink. And I'm pretty sure correct me if
Speaker 5: I'm wrong, that you've.
Speaker 6: Never had well, you know as I say, I'm not
Speaker 6: saying I don't get mean, okay, but I never any.
Speaker 9: Alcohol in the family.
Speaker 8: My kid.
Speaker 9: If I hadn't drink after me my night had a
Speaker 9: black king time. But I'm not gonnaything at all.
Speaker 8: Like I don't like that.
Speaker 6: It does to you know, if I'm not, I just
Speaker 6: don't like to run around their family and my father
Speaker 6: smills heavily. There was no way that I can smoke
Speaker 6: anything and listen, I'm not.
Speaker 9: Approve of each other. So I'm going to get the
Speaker 9: fast it because there's things and I've just smoke.
Speaker 8: You do this, Yeah, I'm not going to I'm not
Speaker 8: gonna have. Yeah, some people don't have really honest and
Speaker 8: some people don't.
Speaker 9: Mention be with that.
Speaker 3: That's an interesting question.
Speaker 5: So how do you balance that being brutally honest in
Speaker 5: a talent evaluation role When people are kind of like
Speaker 5: there's another industry out there to try.
Speaker 3: To make things out to be bigger than they are.
Speaker 5: What do you do?
Speaker 3: You just don't care.
Speaker 6: Social media and particularly these people can get their hair
Speaker 6: and witness size players.
Speaker 8: The next day they'll come back and kiss and make up.
Speaker 8: I don't like them, but they do it. For the
Speaker 8: people will they're free ad contub Some of these.
Speaker 9: Players are not concidentially there.
Speaker 8: You are who they are, and you know I've watched
Speaker 8: their years and all things written about the field players.
Speaker 4: And the owner.
Speaker 8: They are what You're not going to change you, right,
Speaker 8: which is who they are. And I think it's resally
Speaker 8: embarrass or going away.
Speaker 3: But is it hard for you knowing that you're brutally honest?
Speaker 5: Does that impact and you're also a relationship oriented person?
Speaker 3: How do you balance those two things?
Speaker 8: Really?
Speaker 13: You know will come up. Let's say to you, you
Speaker 13: know I want to know this, okay, And I said, look,
Speaker 13: this is only my opinion. You and me tell you
Speaker 13: what you want to hear.
Speaker 8: Or if you want to tell you what I think,
Speaker 8: and sometimes I want to tell.
Speaker 6: You what I think about what I tell I said,
Speaker 6: it's not a reflect when you the reflection on how
Speaker 6: you can get better, not only as a player, but
Speaker 6: as a person.
Speaker 9: How you can interact with people better, how people.
Speaker 14: Will be a more accepting of you. I said, it's
Speaker 14: just strong thinking. Well, I think it's a smile and yeah,
Speaker 14: I just I'm pretty simple. I'm very pretty simple, and
Speaker 14: I don't think it's kind of.
Speaker 7: A life in this league today, it's almost forgotten to
Speaker 7: compent of. It's the excessive amount of publishing, the excessive
Speaker 7: now content.
Speaker 8: About the players that are in our league. And I'm
Speaker 8: not always looking something to do longer through it you want,
Speaker 8: you know, I just say it's ridiculous. And some of
Speaker 8: the people in the air and.
Speaker 6: Who I watch ex players, players who accomplished basically nothing.
Speaker 6: You're talking about the game in their opinion. When I play,
Speaker 6: I'm going to talk about how I play. It was
Speaker 6: a completely different area the day of saying well, I thought,
Speaker 6: I've got to.
Speaker 7: Be even though I'm older, reading reading things that were
Speaker 7: meanings of reading about history, reading about people who have inspired.
Speaker 8: I say, even though i'm battle the.
Speaker 6: Persons terrible, I do care about people are and uh
Speaker 6: some people and NBA players, the players and others were
Speaker 6: I want to feel like if everyone crazy when they're
Speaker 6: with their franchise and the next second they trade him
Speaker 6: and well, you know, here just a number we want
Speaker 6: to see you. As I mentioned, players have places where
Speaker 6: they want to go today, and you know they want
Speaker 6: anyone seemingly wants to go to a big market.
Speaker 8: I'm going to go to the place where I can win.
Speaker 8: I suppose you were good enough. If you're good too,
Speaker 8: and they can help a lot more money with.
Speaker 9: Your own game than you came if you other akon.
Speaker 6: Also some places where you go and everything looks great,
Speaker 6: you get there and you'll find me out.
Speaker 3: There's lot the other Why does it work? Just get around?
Speaker 8: Oh well there's a couple of the's a lot of indifferent.
Speaker 8: Well they really got you, hear that? I just I
Speaker 8: just looked at the dining when those people.
Speaker 9: I don't.
Speaker 6: Over the years, I've learned a lot and I think
Speaker 6: crush if I'll use.
Speaker 15: That to discussed plus crush there sell anything. And there's
Speaker 15: been some fuss in my life, have been betrayed and
Speaker 15: you don't know where I have it. I I'm just
Speaker 15: frankly that bother.
Speaker 1: Here it is, folks, here, it is.
Speaker 10: What did Jerry West think about Winning Time?
Speaker 5: When I saw that HBO series, I wondered, did they
Speaker 5: get anything right?
Speaker 3: It's not like they got pretty much everything.
Speaker 8: I really don't.
Speaker 9: I really don't want to find them. Uh there's a
Speaker 9: complete line.
Speaker 8: It's a complete line they have forgetting me. Okay, yeah,
Speaker 8: we're getting me.
Speaker 3: I don't care what anyone that says I'm not going
Speaker 3: to right exactly now.
Speaker 8: I don't know those people. I don't want to know
Speaker 8: the dirty money. Yeah, but that was disgraceful a lot
Speaker 8: of people.
Speaker 7: And then for some reason how we details in place
Speaker 7: that means a feeling good story.
Speaker 6: That was the start of an era in loss as
Speaker 6: the Gary bless Or the others made the Lakers for.
Speaker 9: Years the most popular thing in town.
Speaker 8: And to me, to find a story that by detroying
Speaker 8: the people who were.
Speaker 9: Involved in it, it's very de time. It's displace.
Speaker 5: I love the concept of an owner to say, let's
Speaker 5: just do whatever it takes to win.
Speaker 3: When I look and read about that.
Speaker 5: Time, that's the thing that sticks out is just how
Speaker 5: rare and special and hard it is for owners to
Speaker 5: do that different.
Speaker 8: Yeah, at the team today we have immensely don't be
Speaker 8: in it today. There were of course it because they
Speaker 8: won in their profession. They don't understand how hard it's
Speaker 8: time is. They don't they think of Jesus, the noore
Speaker 8: money he is sped. It's not gonna do it. Sometimes
Speaker 8: people spend a lot of money and they're hopefully losing.
Speaker 8: They're not gonna get better. And once it gets kind
Speaker 8: of struck in the middle.
Speaker 6: If you don't find a way to get out of there,
Speaker 6: you're gonna be the you know that, don't go off
Speaker 6: holl retire.
Speaker 8: That because ever you're gonna do is looking. Every team
Speaker 8: in the leave.
Speaker 6: Look what happens when they leave a great player from
Speaker 6: some franchise that just begin to give a number and
Speaker 6: it's frustrating for the fans.
Speaker 8: Uh, every univerous social polus in the draft can't do
Speaker 8: any here. But it's not pleasing and I wouldn't.
Speaker 9: There's no answer to them.
Speaker 8: They don't know.
Speaker 9: I do believe in ownership a lot.
Speaker 6: I've been to you, you've been involved with floor owners
Speaker 6: and I you know, w h as it to deal
Speaker 6: kind of builder.
Speaker 9: Really been a fan of housing. And I think the
Speaker 9: lucky starts you're gonna leave them.
Speaker 8: In the help.
Speaker 9: And I went a roll with today.
Speaker 8: Who was the most amazing man.
Speaker 9: I've got to say no more about.
Speaker 8: Who, just in any individual who was a givers.
Speaker 6: But work to he and his wife do some a
Speaker 6: couple of blocks can time there's a name when he
Speaker 6: is a great man, he is a great man.
Speaker 9: I actually play at this point in my life and
Speaker 9: this is life.
Speaker 6: You know, this is guy in my entire levee at
Speaker 6: the end of the day that I've had a chance
Speaker 6: to get the time.
Speaker 9: Of life plan during us like the dream us figure
Speaker 9: at us and the other years in the.
Speaker 2: Body like a d man who is keeping the bugs
Speaker 2: through parment and got able a little quieter, and Steve
Speaker 2: is a little bit more ambastic work, fantastic.
Speaker 9: Games and I could a freak Anyway.
Speaker 1: My favorite thing that he did was He's like, I'm
Speaker 1: not going to comment on that, and then he just
Speaker 1: proceeded to comment and comment and comment some war.
Speaker 10: He was very honest, very open to the core. You
Speaker 10: could tell he's not happy about it.
Speaker 1: We'll just say that. So to close up this interview,
Speaker 1: I wanted to ask Jerry about what I heard whispers of,
Speaker 1: which is that there's a standing room only section that's
Speaker 1: going to be put in the new Clippers arena to
Speaker 1: create an atmosphere very cheap tickets, an atmosphere of the
Speaker 1: student section in college basketball, to create a real home
Speaker 1: court advantage and to make it volatile for opposing teams.
Speaker 10: Heard about it, I'm like, this is awesome. So I
Speaker 10: asked him about it.
Speaker 1: He talks about that, of course, but casually drops that
Speaker 1: he does not care about championship rings so much so
Speaker 1: he doesn't even know where any of his are. He
Speaker 1: also then reveals why he doesn't like court side seats,
Speaker 1: and lastly, most importantly, he says some.
Speaker 10: Real nice things about me and his parting thoughts on
Speaker 10: the record, No doubt.
Speaker 1: Let's make a montage, uh, something that I can keep
Speaker 1: handy on my cell phone when I end up sad
Speaker 1: and down a rabbit hole of Twitter trolls.
Speaker 10: You tell me I don't know anything about basketball, I
Speaker 10: should be fine.
Speaker 5: Lastly, you told me about something that's happening to the
Speaker 5: new arena, a really cool feature that is going to
Speaker 5: add to the fan experience.
Speaker 3: Tell me about that if you can.
Speaker 13: Steve, Yeah, he's you know, he he doesn't these things,
Speaker 13: but just pretty great monkey.
Speaker 9: Yeah he doesn't. He wants a Fannings.
Speaker 8: And there's gonna be a horde of each.
Speaker 9: If you got a blue see, it's gonna hold be
Speaker 9: a whole.
Speaker 6: Slack end of it seats that it's a good seat
Speaker 6: handing them, and I'll promise you let me be a
Speaker 6: fair And again I heard what they were going to charge,
Speaker 6: and I said, my god, I said, this is this
Speaker 6: will be fun kind of college like rappers.
Speaker 3: We will so it'll be reasonable, reasonable crisis and.
Speaker 6: The low reasons the low reason And in some of
Speaker 6: these places you go down and fluorescens in particular, and
Speaker 6: how rageous.
Speaker 16: That's what people will do to have received And after
Speaker 16: I said demand people want to be seen, but they
Speaker 16: want to be down there and hopefully someone will run
Speaker 16: over them and I'll hurt them and they'll have a
Speaker 16: picture of it for there' sta book.
Speaker 8: I don't even like to f sea. You can't see
Speaker 8: the game. But if people who like to be close.
Speaker 6: To the action, they like to hear a little law
Speaker 6: language of times and the facial expression of it.
Speaker 9: Uh that again, I just say, sing just a way there.
Speaker 2: Of course it'll be amazing and it's gonna be must
Speaker 2: see for when people walk afder this really close to
Speaker 2: the thro remember the un stateful first over them.
Speaker 8: I said, oh my god, want people it's so far
Speaker 8: in the action. Then at four of the one time
Speaker 8: there is the best place to watch the basket. Okay,
Speaker 8: we're so close and fourth But it.
Speaker 6: Really didn't work financier because they even more revenue maintaining
Speaker 6: players and also.
Speaker 9: It enhances the value of the franchise.
Speaker 2: And as I say, this was a different NBA and
Speaker 2: the set in the floor, it'll be different five years
Speaker 2: from now, but it's still and it's very simple.
Speaker 8: The game very SimPE and that's.
Speaker 9: That's gone to the charge.
Speaker 3: And if you don't stand the whole time, you get
Speaker 3: kicked out right.
Speaker 8: I'm not sure. I'm not sure what the policy is,
Speaker 8: but I'm sure I'm sure that's what we don't Steve.
Speaker 8: We'll be up there with me half the time, so
Speaker 8: it'll be fun.
Speaker 3: Way, Yeah, that'll be fun. I appreciate you. I hope
Speaker 3: you get another ring.
Speaker 8: I'm not sure. I don't really don't mean a lot
Speaker 8: to me.
Speaker 9: I'll have a few.
Speaker 8: I don't even know where they are.
Speaker 3: And I'm gonna say then that you don't even know
Speaker 3: where the rings are, like you don't know. It's not
Speaker 3: in the safe somewhere. They're just gone, like in a
Speaker 3: random drawer.
Speaker 6: So I mean somewhere, okay, And you know there's a
Speaker 6: fun you're hard to get and hopefully every team and
Speaker 6: player off bring you.
Speaker 9: And that's a great truth.
Speaker 3: Jerry West.
Speaker 5: You have been gracious and fun and insightful and I
Speaker 5: have taken up way too much of your time.
Speaker 9: Of course, I.
Speaker 8: Always great to see you.
Speaker 9: You know, you have a unique personality and the fun
Speaker 9: to get around.
Speaker 1: That's all the time that we have for this episode
Speaker 1: of Eat.
Speaker 3: Check Google search.
Speaker 1: He checked Jerry West for the rest of the over
Speaker 1: two hour interview, and we will see you next time.
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