1 00:00:00,280 --> 00:00:02,320 Speaker 1: Two Pros and a Cup of Joe. Fox Sports Radio, 2 00:00:02,400 --> 00:00:04,880 Speaker 1: LaVar Arrington, Brady, Quinn, Jonas Knox with you here. Coming 3 00:00:04,960 --> 00:00:07,960 Speaker 1: up on this Thursday edition, We've got football to discuss. 4 00:00:08,000 --> 00:00:10,639 Speaker 1: We're going to talk about the issues in Buffalo. Apparently 5 00:00:10,680 --> 00:00:13,440 Speaker 1: it's not all a Josh Allen problem. There are problems 6 00:00:13,480 --> 00:00:16,439 Speaker 1: at the top and they showed themselves yesterday. We're also 7 00:00:16,480 --> 00:00:19,119 Speaker 1: going to have a conversation about the latest drama in 8 00:00:19,160 --> 00:00:23,400 Speaker 1: the world of college sports football basketball. Some guys want 9 00:00:23,400 --> 00:00:26,680 Speaker 1: to leave, others want to return. We will discuss. 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We 29 00:01:28,120 --> 00:01:33,280 Speaker 1: are sitting next to Steve Jobs and Elvis President. 30 00:01:33,440 --> 00:01:36,399 Speaker 3: Yeah, how about that? How about that? 31 00:01:36,560 --> 00:01:36,720 Speaker 4: Lover? 32 00:01:37,000 --> 00:01:38,039 Speaker 3: Lover and a creator. 33 00:01:38,080 --> 00:01:42,120 Speaker 5: That's that's what my personality breakdown came back with. 34 00:01:42,319 --> 00:01:44,679 Speaker 3: You didn't know that, did you? Yeah? 35 00:01:44,800 --> 00:01:47,640 Speaker 5: I just wondered, like am I a narciss city? So 36 00:01:47,680 --> 00:01:51,480 Speaker 5: I took one of those personality surveys yesterday. 37 00:01:52,800 --> 00:01:53,720 Speaker 4: What does that entail? 38 00:01:53,840 --> 00:01:53,960 Speaker 6: Like? 39 00:01:53,960 --> 00:01:55,760 Speaker 4: Like what do you do this? Like? What do you 40 00:01:55,760 --> 00:01:56,120 Speaker 4: have to do? 41 00:01:56,800 --> 00:01:59,440 Speaker 3: It was like I looked it up and it's online. 42 00:01:59,440 --> 00:02:01,640 Speaker 7: It was one like if you look up your love 43 00:02:01,720 --> 00:02:04,320 Speaker 7: language or your house of hufflepuff or something. 44 00:02:04,280 --> 00:02:07,400 Speaker 5: Like, it can help you to like figure out how 45 00:02:07,400 --> 00:02:10,920 Speaker 5: to improve your you know, like your daily movement, like 46 00:02:11,000 --> 00:02:14,080 Speaker 5: if you need more structure in your life or you know, 47 00:02:14,840 --> 00:02:17,399 Speaker 5: more of this less of that, you know, type. 48 00:02:17,160 --> 00:02:19,920 Speaker 4: Of deal and what to come back as I'm a 49 00:02:19,960 --> 00:02:24,600 Speaker 4: lover and a creator. Okay, yeah, I mean you've got 50 00:02:24,720 --> 00:02:26,000 Speaker 4: what how many kids? Five? 51 00:02:26,120 --> 00:02:26,400 Speaker 3: Five? 52 00:02:28,280 --> 00:02:31,320 Speaker 4: I would say that equates to a creator. I mean, 53 00:02:31,560 --> 00:02:34,639 Speaker 4: I agreed, but what to tell you that. 54 00:02:34,760 --> 00:02:38,639 Speaker 5: The hardest thing I had to accept was the celebrity 55 00:02:39,040 --> 00:02:44,040 Speaker 5: comparisons like my what is it? My survey? My answers 56 00:02:45,040 --> 00:02:48,399 Speaker 5: aligned with Steve Jobs as the creator, which. 57 00:02:48,240 --> 00:02:50,920 Speaker 4: I'm okay with He's was he on the spectrum? 58 00:02:51,000 --> 00:02:53,400 Speaker 5: And he might have been I might be on spectrum, bro, 59 00:02:53,760 --> 00:02:58,960 Speaker 5: And then uh and Elvis Presley as the lover I was. 60 00:02:59,120 --> 00:03:01,320 Speaker 4: I was like, I'm it couldn't have had some things 61 00:03:01,360 --> 00:03:03,960 Speaker 4: going on there. It couldn't have been Martin Luther the 62 00:03:04,040 --> 00:03:08,200 Speaker 4: King or you know, Malcolm the X. You know what 63 00:03:08,240 --> 00:03:08,519 Speaker 4: I mean? 64 00:03:08,639 --> 00:03:13,040 Speaker 5: Like they they they put me on the opposite end, 65 00:03:13,200 --> 00:03:15,960 Speaker 5: you know, I was. I was going for, like, you know, 66 00:03:16,200 --> 00:03:18,880 Speaker 5: kind of civil rights leader or something to that effect. 67 00:03:19,800 --> 00:03:22,639 Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, the Donald. 68 00:03:22,400 --> 00:03:24,200 Speaker 4: Said it was it was. It was a booze hound 69 00:03:24,440 --> 00:03:27,000 Speaker 4: and a something else a lover. 70 00:03:28,560 --> 00:03:32,360 Speaker 7: Well, Steve Jobs was never formally diagnosed, many people and 71 00:03:32,480 --> 00:03:36,080 Speaker 7: experts do believe that he showed traits of being on 72 00:03:36,120 --> 00:03:38,800 Speaker 7: the autism spectrum and having aspergers. 73 00:03:39,080 --> 00:03:41,360 Speaker 5: Yeah, well there you go for maybe he was just 74 00:03:41,400 --> 00:03:46,720 Speaker 5: smart than man. I do feel like I'm alone sometimes. 75 00:03:46,800 --> 00:03:48,800 Speaker 5: I'll tell you that, that's why I stay to myself. 76 00:03:49,440 --> 00:03:52,640 Speaker 4: You know. It feels like they're alone right now. Probably 77 00:03:52,720 --> 00:03:53,560 Speaker 4: Kean Coleman. 78 00:03:53,760 --> 00:03:57,320 Speaker 5: Yeah, great, great, second, that's okay. 79 00:03:57,640 --> 00:03:59,760 Speaker 3: I mean when you when your owner throws you under 80 00:03:59,760 --> 00:04:00,680 Speaker 3: the like that. 81 00:04:01,400 --> 00:04:03,560 Speaker 1: Hey, Kean, and we got a question for you. You 82 00:04:03,600 --> 00:04:05,480 Speaker 1: ever wiped the dry piece of toilet paint? 83 00:04:05,880 --> 00:04:07,880 Speaker 3: He did yesterday? This is as good as it gets. 84 00:04:08,040 --> 00:04:10,720 Speaker 1: It's not once you switched to life changing wet extra 85 00:04:10,840 --> 00:04:14,520 Speaker 1: large flushable Dude Wives because wetter just cleans better. Available 86 00:04:14,560 --> 00:04:18,000 Speaker 1: at Amazon and at major retailers nationwide. Dude Wives, best 87 00:04:18,000 --> 00:04:20,680 Speaker 1: clean pants down. You know where them do wipes go? 88 00:04:21,680 --> 00:04:26,159 Speaker 5: You can flush them, so he could. 89 00:04:25,279 --> 00:04:28,160 Speaker 3: Go right where to do wipe that he use. He 90 00:04:28,279 --> 00:04:31,080 Speaker 3: go right with it. Yeah, that was something yesterday. 91 00:04:31,880 --> 00:04:35,320 Speaker 1: Terry Poula, the owner of the Buffalo Bills and Brandon 92 00:04:35,360 --> 00:04:37,680 Speaker 1: Bean conference. 93 00:04:38,360 --> 00:04:40,839 Speaker 4: Before we play the sound, can I just throw this 94 00:04:40,920 --> 00:04:43,760 Speaker 4: out there? Are we to the point where we got 95 00:04:43,800 --> 00:04:45,560 Speaker 4: some of these owners that are getting so old You're like, 96 00:04:45,600 --> 00:04:48,400 Speaker 4: oh no, but have those senior moments. 97 00:04:48,839 --> 00:04:51,479 Speaker 5: I feel like they're getting so old and times have 98 00:04:51,640 --> 00:04:56,760 Speaker 5: changed so much they're so disconnected from how soft this 99 00:04:56,760 --> 00:04:59,920 Speaker 5: this day and age is that they don't care more. 100 00:05:00,320 --> 00:05:05,200 Speaker 5: Most old hits don't care anyway. But now the politically 101 00:05:05,279 --> 00:05:09,479 Speaker 5: the being politically correct phase of of doing things with 102 00:05:09,600 --> 00:05:13,440 Speaker 5: old hits, it's gone. It is gone. They don't even 103 00:05:13,440 --> 00:05:15,960 Speaker 5: care no more. Terry don't even care, Like, Hey, I'm 104 00:05:15,960 --> 00:05:20,000 Speaker 5: gonna shoot you straight. I own banguitting at all, and 105 00:05:20,080 --> 00:05:22,600 Speaker 5: y'all gonna stop ratting on my GM like. 106 00:05:22,560 --> 00:05:26,719 Speaker 3: That because that's my guy. Yeah, I could go kick 107 00:05:26,720 --> 00:05:27,279 Speaker 3: a rock. 108 00:05:27,240 --> 00:05:33,240 Speaker 1: So much so he promoted him now. Yesterday, amongst a 109 00:05:33,279 --> 00:05:37,000 Speaker 1: bunch of questions about you know, Sean mcdermot's firing, et cetera, 110 00:05:37,040 --> 00:05:40,640 Speaker 1: et cetera, the question was posed to Brandon being about 111 00:05:40,640 --> 00:05:44,320 Speaker 1: the situation with Keon Coleman, who they drafted and it 112 00:05:44,480 --> 00:05:48,280 Speaker 1: just hasn't worked out. He was benched. There's been a 113 00:05:48,320 --> 00:05:51,359 Speaker 1: lot of off the field stuff with him. He's not 114 00:05:51,440 --> 00:05:53,839 Speaker 1: showing up on time, so on and so forth. I 115 00:05:53,839 --> 00:05:55,720 Speaker 1: think there's been some fines that have been handed out 116 00:05:55,760 --> 00:05:58,240 Speaker 1: as well too, and so they've been asking, you know what, 117 00:05:58,240 --> 00:06:02,040 Speaker 1: what's really gone on with it? Your fingerprints are all 118 00:06:02,080 --> 00:06:07,320 Speaker 1: over this move in drafting Keon Coleman and then yes, 119 00:06:07,360 --> 00:06:09,960 Speaker 1: and then Terry Pegula decided, you know what, I don't 120 00:06:09,960 --> 00:06:12,839 Speaker 1: need to use my blinker all merge right into this 121 00:06:13,000 --> 00:06:14,280 Speaker 1: lane and take this. 122 00:06:14,839 --> 00:06:21,039 Speaker 2: Yeah, rupt, I'll address the Keon situation. The coaching staff 123 00:06:21,240 --> 00:06:25,599 Speaker 2: pushed to draft Kon. I'm not saying Brandon wouldn't have 124 00:06:25,720 --> 00:06:30,520 Speaker 2: drafted him, but he wasn't his next choice. That was 125 00:06:30,800 --> 00:06:34,919 Speaker 2: Brandon being a team player and taking advice of his 126 00:06:35,040 --> 00:06:36,280 Speaker 2: coaching staff. 127 00:06:36,800 --> 00:06:39,800 Speaker 4: Who felt strongly about the player. 128 00:06:40,160 --> 00:06:45,120 Speaker 2: And he's taken, for some reason, heat over it and 129 00:06:45,240 --> 00:06:46,520 Speaker 2: not saying a word about it. 130 00:06:46,560 --> 00:06:49,880 Speaker 4: But I'm here to tell you the true story. 131 00:06:50,360 --> 00:06:53,320 Speaker 1: Now there's a couple of problems with that true story, 132 00:06:53,480 --> 00:06:58,640 Speaker 1: all right. Number one, that player is still on your roster. 133 00:07:00,080 --> 00:07:01,240 Speaker 3: Didn't you didn't say? 134 00:07:01,440 --> 00:07:08,080 Speaker 1: Number two, there's audio and video at the combine of 135 00:07:08,320 --> 00:07:12,240 Speaker 1: Brandon Bean saying I'm glad Keon Coleman's forty was a 136 00:07:12,320 --> 00:07:16,080 Speaker 1: little bit disappointing because that way to help me draft him, 137 00:07:16,560 --> 00:07:18,400 Speaker 1: so clearly he wanted him. 138 00:07:18,800 --> 00:07:19,960 Speaker 4: Do we have the sound, pat? 139 00:07:21,840 --> 00:07:22,080 Speaker 5: Yes? 140 00:07:22,560 --> 00:07:24,720 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, okay, thanks, Lauryn. Can just play it? I 141 00:07:25,360 --> 00:07:26,800 Speaker 4: just you got to contrast these two. 142 00:07:27,440 --> 00:07:29,560 Speaker 6: Basically, when I went to bed that night, I was like, 143 00:07:30,600 --> 00:07:33,960 Speaker 6: it's it's Keon unless someone just blows us away. We 144 00:07:33,960 --> 00:07:36,880 Speaker 6: didn't feel anything was attractive enough for us to pass 145 00:07:36,960 --> 00:07:37,920 Speaker 6: up on kyok. 146 00:07:38,120 --> 00:07:42,680 Speaker 2: All things considerable things consider get the guy who's yeah, 147 00:07:43,320 --> 00:07:46,480 Speaker 2: so sposed to get this might be. 148 00:07:46,440 --> 00:07:51,040 Speaker 4: Obvious that so tomorrow who we pay, We're just going 149 00:07:51,120 --> 00:07:52,200 Speaker 4: to keep trading mounting. 150 00:07:54,760 --> 00:07:59,520 Speaker 5: We're gonna get fourteen fifths barring someone offering us something, 151 00:08:01,120 --> 00:08:03,320 Speaker 5: they'll take Keo cooler Man. 152 00:08:04,720 --> 00:08:08,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a little damning type in damning. 153 00:08:09,400 --> 00:08:13,680 Speaker 4: They literally made a video about Brandon being making the selection. 154 00:08:13,960 --> 00:08:16,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a little damn And you know what's crazy. 155 00:08:16,720 --> 00:08:19,720 Speaker 5: Chom was if y'all remember he was like the biggest 156 00:08:19,800 --> 00:08:26,800 Speaker 5: personality the media, sweetheart, the promotion, sweetheart commercial sweetheart going 157 00:08:26,800 --> 00:08:30,000 Speaker 5: into the season, like right after he got drafted, he. 158 00:08:30,320 --> 00:08:34,280 Speaker 3: Got he blew up super like was super popular. 159 00:08:33,920 --> 00:08:36,760 Speaker 5: Was in the media all the time, like people loved 160 00:08:36,840 --> 00:08:39,800 Speaker 5: him like they I mean, the perception of him was 161 00:08:40,000 --> 00:08:40,960 Speaker 5: his Q rating. 162 00:08:40,880 --> 00:08:44,920 Speaker 1: Was really I This just tells me how much Josh 163 00:08:44,920 --> 00:08:48,800 Speaker 1: Allen has covered up things in that organization that maybe 164 00:08:48,840 --> 00:08:54,080 Speaker 1: we weren't aware of. Because Terry Pakola sounds like Woody Johnson, 165 00:08:54,880 --> 00:08:56,559 Speaker 1: sound like the Jets don't talk. 166 00:08:56,360 --> 00:08:59,080 Speaker 5: About my boy like that man. Hold on, now, don't 167 00:08:59,080 --> 00:09:02,000 Speaker 5: go that far. We all don't go that far. 168 00:09:02,160 --> 00:09:04,040 Speaker 3: If you're a Jets fan, and you if you're a 169 00:09:04,080 --> 00:09:04,720 Speaker 3: Jets fan. 170 00:09:04,920 --> 00:09:07,200 Speaker 5: Oh look, I ain't gonna go in in the up around. 171 00:09:07,960 --> 00:09:11,040 Speaker 5: And hey, I heard Jonas was was going after me. 172 00:09:11,240 --> 00:09:13,160 Speaker 5: You ain't saying, well, I can't. 173 00:09:13,280 --> 00:09:16,240 Speaker 1: If you ever wanted to make sure I covered off. 174 00:09:16,280 --> 00:09:18,839 Speaker 1: If you ever wondered as a Jets fan, what it 175 00:09:18,920 --> 00:09:21,160 Speaker 1: would be like playing the Bills twice a year to 176 00:09:21,200 --> 00:09:23,640 Speaker 1: have Josh Allen as your quarterback, Well, this is what 177 00:09:23,679 --> 00:09:25,640 Speaker 1: it's like like, this is what it would look like 178 00:09:25,679 --> 00:09:26,880 Speaker 1: if Josh Allen was your courter. 179 00:09:26,920 --> 00:09:29,000 Speaker 3: Well, you're in trouble unless it's the playoffs. Such a 180 00:09:29,040 --> 00:09:29,640 Speaker 3: bad look. 181 00:09:30,360 --> 00:09:33,440 Speaker 4: Well yeah, it's not only a what do they know 182 00:09:33,480 --> 00:09:38,640 Speaker 4: about that? It's a terrible look. And what makes things 183 00:09:38,679 --> 00:09:41,360 Speaker 4: worse is, like I was looking back on just like 184 00:09:41,400 --> 00:09:45,439 Speaker 4: what McDermott's done during his tenure there, I'm like, all right, 185 00:09:45,559 --> 00:09:47,960 Speaker 4: this is interesting. I mean, he's got the third highest 186 00:09:47,960 --> 00:09:51,880 Speaker 4: winning percentage of an active head coach. He only missed 187 00:09:51,880 --> 00:09:54,760 Speaker 4: the playoffs once. We talked about this yesterday. Do you 188 00:09:54,800 --> 00:09:58,160 Speaker 4: know his winning percentage is fifteenth whole time amongst head 189 00:09:58,200 --> 00:10:02,880 Speaker 4: coaches in NFL history, Like he's been really really good. 190 00:10:03,880 --> 00:10:06,680 Speaker 4: They just haven't been able to kind of like crack 191 00:10:06,760 --> 00:10:10,160 Speaker 4: that seal. And I kind of go back to this 192 00:10:10,400 --> 00:10:15,280 Speaker 4: discussion we had yesterday because LeVar, you wanted to associate 193 00:10:15,600 --> 00:10:18,400 Speaker 4: the record with the team, and it's you. 194 00:10:18,720 --> 00:10:21,600 Speaker 5: Love like trying to make sure that you prove what 195 00:10:21,679 --> 00:10:25,680 Speaker 5: I'd say is wrong. Guy, you no tell us what 196 00:10:25,720 --> 00:10:27,719 Speaker 5: you're thinking, Brady. 197 00:10:27,800 --> 00:10:31,679 Speaker 4: What I'm saying. What I'm thinking is like McDermott, who 198 00:10:31,800 --> 00:10:36,040 Speaker 4: is directly associated with it, he gets clipped, and meanwhile, 199 00:10:36,080 --> 00:10:39,080 Speaker 4: then Brandon Bean gets credit for it. And meanwhile you've 200 00:10:39,080 --> 00:10:42,880 Speaker 4: got an owner who's sitting there like lamb basting the 201 00:10:42,920 --> 00:10:46,400 Speaker 4: fact that they took Keon Coleman because of the coaching staff. Meanwhile, 202 00:10:46,559 --> 00:10:50,360 Speaker 4: we've got evidence otherwise. I just looked and go like 203 00:10:51,240 --> 00:10:55,520 Speaker 4: it's just it's always to me about the ability for 204 00:10:55,760 --> 00:10:59,839 Speaker 4: whoever gets that owner's ear. And there's other examples of 205 00:10:59,880 --> 00:11:04,320 Speaker 4: this within organizations where there's dysfunction, but someone's got the 206 00:11:04,400 --> 00:11:08,760 Speaker 4: rich guy's ear and somehow, even though again there's evidence otherwise, 207 00:11:09,679 --> 00:11:13,480 Speaker 4: he's like brainwashed or he's talked into thinking that like yo, no, no, 208 00:11:13,640 --> 00:11:16,559 Speaker 4: I was shot mcdifference pick. Yeah, I wasn't. It wasn't Brandon's. 209 00:11:16,800 --> 00:11:19,959 Speaker 4: It's like, no, it was. It was Brandon's. That's his job. 210 00:11:20,120 --> 00:11:23,840 Speaker 4: That's exactly who's pick it was. And not only doesn't 211 00:11:23,880 --> 00:11:25,120 Speaker 4: not get fire you, it's promoted. 212 00:11:25,679 --> 00:11:26,599 Speaker 3: Yeah. 213 00:11:27,040 --> 00:11:29,000 Speaker 4: I don't know. I look at it and go, I 214 00:11:29,080 --> 00:11:31,640 Speaker 4: wonder if candidates who are now looking at that opening 215 00:11:32,440 --> 00:11:35,400 Speaker 4: Joe Brady who interviewed yesterday, and there'll be some others 216 00:11:36,080 --> 00:11:38,880 Speaker 4: as attractive as it is because of Josh Allen looking 217 00:11:38,880 --> 00:11:41,280 Speaker 4: at it and go, maybe there's a little more there. 218 00:11:41,320 --> 00:11:45,199 Speaker 4: To Jonas's point, maybe it's not as functional as as 219 00:11:45,240 --> 00:11:47,800 Speaker 4: we thought, just because their success and it kind of 220 00:11:47,960 --> 00:11:51,400 Speaker 4: pairs similarly similarly to Pittsburgh in away right. 221 00:11:51,400 --> 00:11:53,360 Speaker 5: Oh, I was going to say in the hardball situation. 222 00:11:53,520 --> 00:11:57,920 Speaker 5: I mean, but yeah, Pittsburgh as well. And by the way, 223 00:11:58,160 --> 00:12:00,960 Speaker 5: I was on the throne using a dude like when 224 00:12:01,240 --> 00:12:04,840 Speaker 5: Brady shot the whole you know, the stray on me yesterday. 225 00:12:04,880 --> 00:12:07,360 Speaker 5: I I caught that friendly fire yesterday. 226 00:12:07,360 --> 00:12:09,960 Speaker 3: It was a catch. Mean, it was a catch. I 227 00:12:10,000 --> 00:12:10,560 Speaker 3: was like I was. 228 00:12:10,720 --> 00:12:14,160 Speaker 5: It was booty minting myself when I got me, when 229 00:12:14,200 --> 00:12:16,920 Speaker 5: I caught me straight on a tangent. 230 00:12:17,480 --> 00:12:21,120 Speaker 4: So I was texting with Blandino, and I said to him, 231 00:12:21,120 --> 00:12:22,520 Speaker 4: I go, I go, hey, by the way, I go, 232 00:12:22,960 --> 00:12:25,880 Speaker 4: you initially told me when they were up in Seattle 233 00:12:25,880 --> 00:12:28,360 Speaker 4: for the game that you thought it was a catch. 234 00:12:28,760 --> 00:12:32,080 Speaker 4: He said, yeah, I go, what happened when Tom looked 235 00:12:32,080 --> 00:12:33,199 Speaker 4: at it and tell you it wasn't a catch? So 236 00:12:33,280 --> 00:12:37,120 Speaker 4: you just changed your opinion? He goes, samn, he's He's like, 237 00:12:37,240 --> 00:12:39,920 Speaker 4: not quite. I go, okay, what was it? He goes, 238 00:12:40,120 --> 00:12:42,000 Speaker 4: I just I don't know. I goes, I felt like 239 00:12:42,040 --> 00:12:44,920 Speaker 4: there's another angle of it. I said, okay, that's fair, 240 00:12:44,960 --> 00:12:47,840 Speaker 4: that's fine, But I go, that angle didn't really show 241 00:12:47,880 --> 00:12:51,160 Speaker 4: it from this cybery. It seems like there's more body control. 242 00:12:51,240 --> 00:12:53,320 Speaker 4: Whatever I was boo, that was. That was more than 243 00:12:53,480 --> 00:12:56,800 Speaker 4: just like I'm I'm Booty Minting and I get it. 244 00:12:56,800 --> 00:12:58,960 Speaker 4: I catch it straight from Brady it was a catch. 245 00:12:59,679 --> 00:13:01,920 Speaker 4: There's a different since I since. 246 00:13:02,000 --> 00:13:04,240 Speaker 5: I'm the only one, I'm the only one that said 247 00:13:04,280 --> 00:13:08,200 Speaker 5: it was a catch, by the way, so it's a 248 00:13:08,240 --> 00:13:11,000 Speaker 5: whole hold on. I'm okay with being wrong. I really am. 249 00:13:11,160 --> 00:13:13,720 Speaker 5: Like I had moved on from it. 250 00:13:14,320 --> 00:13:15,400 Speaker 4: What I said to you, I. 251 00:13:15,360 --> 00:13:17,679 Speaker 5: Know that toilet caught what I threw I was one 252 00:13:17,720 --> 00:13:18,600 Speaker 5: hundred and four hundred. 253 00:13:18,679 --> 00:13:19,599 Speaker 3: I was one hundred. 254 00:13:19,320 --> 00:13:25,360 Speaker 1: Percent completely touchdown, touchdown, touchdown again, Like. 255 00:13:28,600 --> 00:13:30,920 Speaker 4: My whole thing was whatever they called in the field 256 00:13:31,000 --> 00:13:33,679 Speaker 4: was what it was going to be. That was that 257 00:13:33,760 --> 00:13:35,800 Speaker 4: was ultimate I kind of felt about that play, and 258 00:13:36,120 --> 00:13:37,720 Speaker 4: I agree with that one hundred. 259 00:13:38,600 --> 00:13:43,160 Speaker 5: I agree with that because ultimately, in my estimation, it 260 00:13:43,240 --> 00:13:47,040 Speaker 5: ultimately comes down to a judgment call in that moment 261 00:13:47,120 --> 00:13:50,480 Speaker 5: because your reasoning wasn't wrong, well it was. 262 00:13:50,559 --> 00:13:52,199 Speaker 3: I don't think that your reasoning was. 263 00:13:52,240 --> 00:13:55,360 Speaker 4: Incouraged judgment call that got Sean mcdermy fired. I mean, 264 00:13:55,559 --> 00:13:58,280 Speaker 4: if you would have looked back on it, like if 265 00:13:58,320 --> 00:14:00,640 Speaker 4: the Bills win that game, I don't know that he's 266 00:14:00,679 --> 00:14:01,320 Speaker 4: getting fired. 267 00:14:02,200 --> 00:14:05,640 Speaker 5: And I don't disagree with that, but I will say 268 00:14:05,760 --> 00:14:10,120 Speaker 5: that now listening to the way Terry is discussing like 269 00:14:10,160 --> 00:14:14,600 Speaker 5: he's in defense mode, it sounds like they're in defense mode. 270 00:14:14,800 --> 00:14:19,160 Speaker 5: And in Buffalo, maybe again you guys said it yesterday, 271 00:14:19,560 --> 00:14:22,200 Speaker 5: maybe the hat writing was on the wall, you know, 272 00:14:22,520 --> 00:14:26,040 Speaker 5: and maybe it was super Bowl or bust, which I 273 00:14:26,240 --> 00:14:30,760 Speaker 5: thought this year for Buffalo was super Bowl or bus. 274 00:14:31,240 --> 00:14:34,480 Speaker 5: And then once we got closer to the playoffs and 275 00:14:34,560 --> 00:14:38,040 Speaker 5: you saw how things were were kind of shaping up. 276 00:14:38,480 --> 00:14:42,120 Speaker 5: At one hundred percent went up that it should be 277 00:14:42,160 --> 00:14:44,720 Speaker 5: a super Bowl or bus year for Buffalo. 278 00:14:45,160 --> 00:14:45,880 Speaker 3: No reason. 279 00:14:46,200 --> 00:14:49,360 Speaker 5: You can't give a real reason as to why a 280 00:14:49,480 --> 00:14:55,360 Speaker 5: Josh Allen led team wouldn't be in pole position to 281 00:14:55,480 --> 00:15:00,160 Speaker 5: get the super Bowl this season this year, So I 282 00:15:00,160 --> 00:15:03,280 Speaker 5: don't Maybe he does save his job, but if we're 283 00:15:03,280 --> 00:15:06,920 Speaker 5: going base it off of a play, it's hard for 284 00:15:06,960 --> 00:15:10,160 Speaker 5: me to accept that a play was the reason why 285 00:15:10,240 --> 00:15:12,880 Speaker 5: that man lost his job, which it has happened. I mean, 286 00:15:12,920 --> 00:15:15,800 Speaker 5: it's not like it's not something that's happened in the past. 287 00:15:15,840 --> 00:15:17,240 Speaker 5: But I just find that one hard. 288 00:15:17,440 --> 00:15:21,760 Speaker 1: Terry Pegoula did address why Sean McDermott was fired, He'd 289 00:15:21,760 --> 00:15:23,680 Speaker 1: like to push back on that notion that it was 290 00:15:23,720 --> 00:15:25,880 Speaker 1: about a bad call in a playoff game. 291 00:15:25,960 --> 00:15:26,720 Speaker 3: Let's take a listen. 292 00:15:26,960 --> 00:15:29,480 Speaker 2: I did not fire a coach based on a bad 293 00:15:29,520 --> 00:15:33,840 Speaker 2: officiating decision. If I can take you into that locker room, 294 00:15:34,240 --> 00:15:37,480 Speaker 2: I felt like we hit the proverbial playoff. 295 00:15:37,040 --> 00:15:39,040 Speaker 3: Wall year after year. 296 00:15:39,480 --> 00:15:45,520 Speaker 2: Thirteen seconds, miss field goals, the catch. I just sensed 297 00:15:46,040 --> 00:15:48,440 Speaker 2: in that locker room, like, where do we go from here? 298 00:15:48,600 --> 00:15:52,360 Speaker 4: Is its super Bowl or bust? Because in twenty twenty six, No. 299 00:15:52,720 --> 00:15:53,200 Speaker 3: We can't. 300 00:15:53,240 --> 00:15:55,920 Speaker 2: We can't say that to somebody coming in. We were 301 00:15:56,000 --> 00:15:59,880 Speaker 2: making a change, and you know, it's do your best job. 302 00:16:00,680 --> 00:16:03,480 Speaker 5: Good isn't good enough anymore. I mean, I think we 303 00:16:03,520 --> 00:16:06,360 Speaker 5: all know that. The I mean the clarity of that, 304 00:16:06,400 --> 00:16:08,280 Speaker 5: and I'll let y'all I have a baseball good isn't 305 00:16:08,320 --> 00:16:09,200 Speaker 5: good enough anymore. 306 00:16:09,280 --> 00:16:11,720 Speaker 4: But baseball used to be you hit singles, doubles, get 307 00:16:11,760 --> 00:16:14,000 Speaker 4: on base, you get the runner home. It's home runs 308 00:16:14,040 --> 00:16:18,040 Speaker 4: or strikeouts. That's why even baseball has become Yeah, so 309 00:16:18,880 --> 00:16:22,080 Speaker 4: you can't convince me that whoever gets the head coaching job, 310 00:16:22,800 --> 00:16:25,240 Speaker 4: especially if they don't make the playoffs. You know, think 311 00:16:25,280 --> 00:16:27,760 Speaker 4: Terry Boogol is gonna be like, oh, well, this doesn't 312 00:16:27,760 --> 00:16:32,120 Speaker 4: feel good. This feels like a step back. Yeah, dude, Yeah, 313 00:16:32,400 --> 00:16:33,880 Speaker 4: like you got took for granted the fact that you're 314 00:16:33,880 --> 00:16:36,600 Speaker 4: in the playoffs every year when mcdermo's there, just because 315 00:16:36,600 --> 00:16:39,480 Speaker 4: you're gonna get to a super Bowl. Here's what I 316 00:16:39,520 --> 00:16:43,720 Speaker 4: think there's an element of here, and people may take 317 00:16:43,720 --> 00:16:45,840 Speaker 4: an issue with this. I'm just gonna say it, Okay, 318 00:16:47,280 --> 00:16:49,960 Speaker 4: it takes some luck. I think there's a lot of 319 00:16:50,000 --> 00:16:52,920 Speaker 4: successful people out there who believe that what they've done 320 00:16:52,920 --> 00:16:55,560 Speaker 4: to get where they're at is all things they've done. 321 00:16:56,200 --> 00:16:59,800 Speaker 4: It's hard work, it's dedication, sacrifice, blah blah blah, it's talent. 322 00:17:00,760 --> 00:17:03,600 Speaker 4: It's a little luck too. If we're being honest with 323 00:17:03,960 --> 00:17:07,880 Speaker 4: like about a lot of it, it's it's probably more 324 00:17:07,960 --> 00:17:12,080 Speaker 4: luck than people like to actually like to admit, you 325 00:17:12,160 --> 00:17:15,199 Speaker 4: got a call that went your way, your team stayed healthy. 326 00:17:16,000 --> 00:17:18,320 Speaker 4: You know, there's other things that play a factor into that. 327 00:17:18,440 --> 00:17:22,119 Speaker 4: But the truth is, like luck plays a much bigger 328 00:17:22,200 --> 00:17:23,439 Speaker 4: role in all of us. Do you not think the 329 00:17:23,480 --> 00:17:27,000 Speaker 4: Denver broncos I want to sitting there going, dang, dude, 330 00:17:27,760 --> 00:17:30,000 Speaker 4: how unlucky are we that? Like boat Nicks after playing 331 00:17:30,040 --> 00:17:32,439 Speaker 4: a great game and the second to last play it 332 00:17:32,440 --> 00:17:37,080 Speaker 4: breaks his ankle out of there the war Like, you 333 00:17:37,119 --> 00:17:39,920 Speaker 4: get to this point here and you basically have the 334 00:17:39,960 --> 00:17:42,119 Speaker 4: dude who hopes to win the game breaks his ankle. 335 00:17:42,160 --> 00:17:44,160 Speaker 4: Now you get a backup. Playing the AFC Championship game 336 00:17:45,240 --> 00:17:49,480 Speaker 4: like that is not anything other than just sheer luck. 337 00:17:50,119 --> 00:17:52,440 Speaker 4: Either have it or you don't. And for those teams 338 00:17:52,480 --> 00:17:54,760 Speaker 4: that have had in this special season, you could look 339 00:17:54,840 --> 00:18:00,000 Speaker 4: back on a lot of different moments, plenty of moments 340 00:18:00,560 --> 00:18:03,320 Speaker 4: and say, yeah, there's some luck involved. And by the way, 341 00:18:03,520 --> 00:18:07,600 Speaker 4: that's okay, like people act like it discredits people's accomplishments. 342 00:18:08,560 --> 00:18:11,240 Speaker 4: Like you read through things about these titans who build 343 00:18:11,280 --> 00:18:14,400 Speaker 4: up different industries Bill Gates. Go look at where Bill 344 00:18:14,440 --> 00:18:17,359 Speaker 4: Gates was born and when he was born. If he 345 00:18:17,440 --> 00:18:22,840 Speaker 4: wasn't in that exact scenario, probably doesn't make Sun Microsystems, 346 00:18:23,160 --> 00:18:28,320 Speaker 4: which eventually becomes Microsoft, and he eventually becomes this billionaire 347 00:18:28,760 --> 00:18:30,959 Speaker 4: one of the most powerful men in the world because 348 00:18:30,960 --> 00:18:33,920 Speaker 4: of where he grew up, the resources that he had, 349 00:18:33,920 --> 00:18:36,080 Speaker 4: the access to what he had at that time. If 350 00:18:36,080 --> 00:18:38,119 Speaker 4: he was born sooner, wouldn't have had access to it 351 00:18:38,160 --> 00:18:40,160 Speaker 4: at that moment. If he was born somewhere else, probably 352 00:18:40,200 --> 00:18:42,359 Speaker 4: wouldn't have had a computer system one of the first 353 00:18:42,359 --> 00:18:45,440 Speaker 4: ever to go to when he was in Seattle. There's 354 00:18:45,480 --> 00:18:48,439 Speaker 4: all sorts of examples of this like throughout time and life, 355 00:18:48,840 --> 00:18:50,200 Speaker 4: but we tend to just be like. 356 00:18:50,920 --> 00:18:53,919 Speaker 3: Yeah, no, it was me, it was this, it was that, 357 00:18:54,119 --> 00:18:54,760 Speaker 3: and that was no, it. 358 00:18:54,720 --> 00:18:57,280 Speaker 4: Wasn't dude, Like the part of it was just sheer luck. 359 00:18:58,119 --> 00:19:01,280 Speaker 4: And I feel like there's a little bit of a 360 00:19:01,320 --> 00:19:03,560 Speaker 4: little bit of that at play here where if you 361 00:19:03,600 --> 00:19:06,159 Speaker 4: look at just the unluckiness of even Buffalo and the 362 00:19:06,200 --> 00:19:09,240 Speaker 4: call that took place if that calls a catch, they 363 00:19:09,240 --> 00:19:13,040 Speaker 4: win the game. 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That's Louisian hot Sauce. 422 00:21:53,760 --> 00:21:54,800 Speaker 5: Make sure you value hey. 423 00:21:54,800 --> 00:21:58,000 Speaker 1: By the way, there's a good clamshowder in San Francisco. 424 00:21:58,200 --> 00:21:58,600 Speaker 3: Were out there? 425 00:21:58,600 --> 00:22:01,240 Speaker 5: I just had some clam chower or yesterday, did you 426 00:22:01,520 --> 00:22:05,840 Speaker 5: like real clam chowder with like the clam shell and everything, 427 00:22:05,960 --> 00:22:10,400 Speaker 5: Like the clam wasn't even removed from the clam shell. 428 00:22:10,520 --> 00:22:13,680 Speaker 3: Brady's gonna blow chunks right now. It's really good, man, 429 00:22:14,040 --> 00:22:14,760 Speaker 3: it's really good. 430 00:22:14,880 --> 00:22:16,840 Speaker 4: Why do you guys act like you like clam chowder? 431 00:22:17,000 --> 00:22:18,040 Speaker 3: Sultan Pearl good? 432 00:22:18,760 --> 00:22:20,719 Speaker 4: I don't trust jonas being honest about this. 433 00:22:20,840 --> 00:22:22,480 Speaker 3: I like clam chowder. Actually. 434 00:22:22,520 --> 00:22:26,679 Speaker 1: So a Fisherman's wharf in San Francisco, they have a sour. 435 00:22:26,720 --> 00:22:29,800 Speaker 3: Was like a h it does it does? It does 436 00:22:29,920 --> 00:22:32,720 Speaker 3: have a little smell to it. It's a Boudine place, right. 437 00:22:34,080 --> 00:22:40,480 Speaker 3: It's called like I thought you said something else, whoa. 438 00:22:42,119 --> 00:22:46,400 Speaker 4: No, no, no poutinees what goes over like fries. 439 00:22:50,359 --> 00:22:54,240 Speaker 5: I like my version of what I thought it was. 440 00:22:56,080 --> 00:23:00,520 Speaker 4: Is poutine a Canadian French thing. 441 00:23:00,600 --> 00:23:02,640 Speaker 3: I think it's a French thing. I'll double check because 442 00:23:02,640 --> 00:23:03,159 Speaker 3: didn't they have it? 443 00:23:06,480 --> 00:23:08,960 Speaker 4: Yeah, but New Orleans has French influence. 444 00:23:10,520 --> 00:23:13,080 Speaker 5: That's why they called him. I think it's a French 445 00:23:14,080 --> 00:23:17,159 Speaker 5: so good. I mean, there's the French in Canada and 446 00:23:17,200 --> 00:23:23,920 Speaker 5: he was always tasting the poutine. Yeah by the way. Yeah, 447 00:23:23,960 --> 00:23:25,520 Speaker 5: so it's there's problems, man. 448 00:23:25,600 --> 00:23:33,240 Speaker 1: There's a first meet in Quebec, Montreal like the Bacon baby. 449 00:23:34,000 --> 00:23:34,200 Speaker 3: Yeah. 450 00:23:34,240 --> 00:23:37,240 Speaker 1: So there's a sourdough bread ball Fisherman's wharf with some 451 00:23:37,280 --> 00:23:38,199 Speaker 1: good clam chowder. 452 00:23:39,760 --> 00:23:42,040 Speaker 3: Why are you saying we acting? Why can't we like 453 00:23:42,119 --> 00:23:42,919 Speaker 3: clam chowder? 454 00:23:43,000 --> 00:23:45,240 Speaker 4: Because the way the way you're saying it right now, 455 00:23:45,280 --> 00:23:47,439 Speaker 4: and now he's throwing in sour dough and there's a 456 00:23:47,480 --> 00:23:55,240 Speaker 4: whole yeast thing. I mean, we got, I mean, here's 457 00:23:55,240 --> 00:23:58,560 Speaker 4: the thing. Is Larina against sour. She knows what I'm 458 00:23:58,560 --> 00:24:02,120 Speaker 4: talking about. See she's laughing because the whole starter yeeze thing. 459 00:24:02,320 --> 00:24:06,080 Speaker 4: I just you guys are off, yes, yes, problems. 460 00:24:05,640 --> 00:24:08,840 Speaker 5: Man, So you're heading down the lane of infections. 461 00:24:08,880 --> 00:24:12,160 Speaker 4: Like I'm actually being honest about how you make sourdo 462 00:24:12,240 --> 00:24:14,960 Speaker 4: bread at the moment, and like you guys are twisting 463 00:24:14,960 --> 00:24:18,240 Speaker 4: it into your just right in the gutter. I be 464 00:24:18,480 --> 00:24:19,679 Speaker 4: jerking the wheel right now. 465 00:24:20,080 --> 00:24:27,280 Speaker 5: Oh my gosh, just just jerk that wheel into the gutter. Yeah, 466 00:24:27,280 --> 00:24:30,080 Speaker 5: oh my goodness, this is off. 467 00:24:29,880 --> 00:24:31,600 Speaker 3: The rails, man, it is good. 468 00:24:34,480 --> 00:24:40,120 Speaker 1: Look man, hey, you got you got to go through 469 00:24:40,119 --> 00:24:42,000 Speaker 1: some yeast to get to the dough, you know. 470 00:24:42,520 --> 00:24:44,120 Speaker 4: Oh man, Okay, all. 471 00:24:44,119 --> 00:24:45,320 Speaker 3: Right, so thank you. 472 00:24:45,720 --> 00:24:48,240 Speaker 5: I'm mean out and leave it up to Jonas to 473 00:24:48,280 --> 00:24:51,800 Speaker 5: get one awkward moment to ruin the whole bit what. 474 00:24:51,840 --> 00:24:54,080 Speaker 4: He always he always acts like he's not a part of. 475 00:24:55,200 --> 00:25:03,040 Speaker 3: Little He's so good to get to the dough mess. 476 00:25:04,520 --> 00:25:05,560 Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. 477 00:25:07,920 --> 00:25:13,440 Speaker 1: You how many guys are driving around going Yeah, he's right, Jonas. 478 00:25:13,080 --> 00:25:17,480 Speaker 3: Ain't lying, Yes, tell him truth this morning, keep it real, 479 00:25:18,240 --> 00:25:18,560 Speaker 3: all right? 480 00:25:18,600 --> 00:25:22,240 Speaker 1: So what's the latest on this, uh Darien Mensa crap? 481 00:25:22,560 --> 00:25:24,119 Speaker 1: Is he gonna be able to transfer and get to 482 00:25:24,200 --> 00:25:25,719 Speaker 1: Miami or is this gonna be uh? 483 00:25:26,000 --> 00:25:27,800 Speaker 3: Are we gonna play this whole thing like he's still 484 00:25:27,840 --> 00:25:28,879 Speaker 3: in the yeast of it? 485 00:25:29,000 --> 00:25:35,720 Speaker 5: What's I mean. 486 00:25:33,960 --> 00:25:35,919 Speaker 1: You know, LeVar, The yeast you could do is is 487 00:25:35,960 --> 00:25:37,400 Speaker 1: have a real conversation here. 488 00:25:39,720 --> 00:25:44,160 Speaker 3: Well, who's gonna have an explanation for it? 489 00:25:48,240 --> 00:25:48,560 Speaker 4: All right? 490 00:25:48,680 --> 00:25:51,199 Speaker 1: So, so so what do we got here on on 491 00:25:51,359 --> 00:25:52,120 Speaker 1: Darien Mensa. 492 00:25:53,760 --> 00:25:58,080 Speaker 4: He's been uh, he's been deemed to enter the transfer portal. However, 493 00:25:58,440 --> 00:26:02,520 Speaker 4: he cannot enroll or play football at another school right 494 00:26:02,520 --> 00:26:06,159 Speaker 4: now until a judge rules on Duke's request for an 495 00:26:06,200 --> 00:26:10,600 Speaker 4: injunction that would prevent him from leaving Duke. So that's 496 00:26:10,600 --> 00:26:13,080 Speaker 4: where we are at at this point. I believe he's 497 00:26:13,160 --> 00:26:16,240 Speaker 4: entered the transfer portal with a do not contact designation 498 00:26:16,400 --> 00:26:20,439 Speaker 4: For those of you that don't understand what that means. Typically, 499 00:26:20,440 --> 00:26:23,280 Speaker 4: when a player enters the transfer portal, they enter and 500 00:26:23,480 --> 00:26:27,480 Speaker 4: if their contact information goes out, teams can start contacting them. 501 00:26:28,000 --> 00:26:31,240 Speaker 4: But some connection with it do not contact. And if 502 00:26:31,240 --> 00:26:34,960 Speaker 4: you ever thought that there wasn't tampering going on, this 503 00:26:35,000 --> 00:26:38,760 Speaker 4: is a surefire sign that there is, because why would 504 00:26:38,800 --> 00:26:40,919 Speaker 4: you enter into to transfer another school, then tell them 505 00:26:40,960 --> 00:26:44,239 Speaker 4: that everyone that no one can contact you, especially if 506 00:26:44,280 --> 00:26:46,880 Speaker 4: you just entered, like, how would you know? You haven't 507 00:26:46,880 --> 00:26:49,960 Speaker 4: talked to enough teams out there. But usually this means 508 00:26:49,960 --> 00:26:52,520 Speaker 4: that there's already been a team that he has selected. 509 00:26:53,359 --> 00:26:57,080 Speaker 4: How that came about? Not sure? Luck? Okay, not lucky. 510 00:26:57,160 --> 00:26:59,960 Speaker 4: Like the other thing, there was probably at ye stick 511 00:27:00,040 --> 00:27:02,560 Speaker 4: conversation that. 512 00:27:07,520 --> 00:27:10,639 Speaker 5: It was that whole It was a hug, them hugs 513 00:27:10,640 --> 00:27:14,240 Speaker 5: and them embraces. There they gotta go. You'll never see 514 00:27:14,240 --> 00:27:20,960 Speaker 5: them after the games anymore. If I like, sportsmanship is done, 515 00:27:21,119 --> 00:27:27,000 Speaker 5: postgame sportsmanship, pregame sportsmanship done. You can't talk to your friend. 516 00:27:27,840 --> 00:27:30,480 Speaker 5: I know y'all went to high school together. You can't 517 00:27:30,520 --> 00:27:32,119 Speaker 5: talk to them if y'all want to do it on 518 00:27:32,160 --> 00:27:34,159 Speaker 5: your own time. Y'all want to be on cell phones 519 00:27:34,200 --> 00:27:37,280 Speaker 5: and stuff like that, we can't stop that. But on 520 00:27:37,320 --> 00:27:43,240 Speaker 5: this field, ain't no shaking hands, ain't no hugs, warm embraces, 521 00:27:43,359 --> 00:27:46,439 Speaker 5: because everybody's recruiting. Everybody's recruiting. Bro I've seen it with 522 00:27:46,440 --> 00:27:50,240 Speaker 5: my own two eyes, and it's wild. It's wild, how 523 00:27:50,359 --> 00:27:53,760 Speaker 5: how blatant it is too. Wasn't didn't Lincoln Riley get 524 00:27:53,760 --> 00:27:57,320 Speaker 5: accused of that? Wasn't he doing something postgames. 525 00:27:56,560 --> 00:28:02,760 Speaker 4: With somebody offered a player a million dollars what a 526 00:28:02,800 --> 00:28:05,639 Speaker 4: sport which didn't end up happening, and I don't know, 527 00:28:05,880 --> 00:28:07,879 Speaker 4: might have helped him in a specific game that he 528 00:28:07,920 --> 00:28:11,160 Speaker 4: no longer has to play anymore. I think what's interesting 529 00:28:11,200 --> 00:28:14,359 Speaker 4: about this is it's going to as we I always 530 00:28:14,640 --> 00:28:16,840 Speaker 4: like to say, from a legal perspective, it's going to 531 00:28:16,920 --> 00:28:19,840 Speaker 4: set a present in one way or another. And we 532 00:28:19,960 --> 00:28:24,880 Speaker 4: keep looking for Congress to get involved to create antitrust 533 00:28:24,880 --> 00:28:28,320 Speaker 4: protections for some of these universities so they can have 534 00:28:28,400 --> 00:28:32,320 Speaker 4: some sort of enforceable rules, since a collective bargain agreement 535 00:28:32,359 --> 00:28:37,560 Speaker 4: doesn't seem like it's anywhere close to happening. If that's 536 00:28:37,600 --> 00:28:39,760 Speaker 4: the case, I just I look at it. I said, 537 00:28:39,760 --> 00:28:42,120 Speaker 4: I feel bad in a way for the players, only 538 00:28:42,160 --> 00:28:44,320 Speaker 4: because you know he's going to be subject to a 539 00:28:44,320 --> 00:28:46,840 Speaker 4: lot of scrutiny, and when he gets to Miami, the 540 00:28:46,920 --> 00:28:49,120 Speaker 4: expectations are high, which I think he realizes that. 541 00:28:49,680 --> 00:28:49,840 Speaker 5: But. 542 00:28:51,280 --> 00:28:53,960 Speaker 4: It's the system that's been set up and that they're 543 00:28:54,000 --> 00:28:56,800 Speaker 4: living in, it's not the one that they choose. Like, 544 00:28:56,840 --> 00:28:59,120 Speaker 4: this isn't how Darien Mensa would like to handle this. 545 00:29:00,240 --> 00:29:02,760 Speaker 4: But if you don't think that, you wouldn't want to 546 00:29:02,800 --> 00:29:05,840 Speaker 4: go to another school that you feel like has a 547 00:29:05,880 --> 00:29:08,760 Speaker 4: better chance of winning a national championship, is going to 548 00:29:08,800 --> 00:29:11,880 Speaker 4: compensate you more for what you do, You're out of 549 00:29:11,920 --> 00:29:15,760 Speaker 4: your damn mind, Like, don't be critical of these kids. 550 00:29:16,480 --> 00:29:18,239 Speaker 4: You don't know their background. You don't know what the 551 00:29:18,240 --> 00:29:19,960 Speaker 4: shelf life is for how long they're going to be 552 00:29:19,960 --> 00:29:23,400 Speaker 4: able to play. He's had a serious arm injury. Like 553 00:29:23,480 --> 00:29:26,640 Speaker 4: there's elements too, like how teams will view him once 554 00:29:26,640 --> 00:29:29,000 Speaker 4: he gets to the combine and he eventually goes on 555 00:29:29,040 --> 00:29:31,520 Speaker 4: in the NFL level in the draft. I don't know 556 00:29:31,640 --> 00:29:34,440 Speaker 4: what that means for his career, but I'm surely not 557 00:29:34,480 --> 00:29:36,880 Speaker 4: going to judge him for probably taking the advice of 558 00:29:36,920 --> 00:29:40,840 Speaker 4: those advising him, which is a whole separate issue, for 559 00:29:41,040 --> 00:29:42,960 Speaker 4: trying to, you know, find a place that's going to 560 00:29:43,000 --> 00:29:44,719 Speaker 4: pay him more and let him go try to win 561 00:29:44,720 --> 00:29:48,560 Speaker 4: a national championship. I know it looks and maybe sounds 562 00:29:48,600 --> 00:29:51,400 Speaker 4: wrong in some ways, but it's the nature of where 563 00:29:51,400 --> 00:29:53,640 Speaker 4: we're at in college football. Crazy. 564 00:29:53,680 --> 00:29:57,280 Speaker 5: Once again, we're to a place where all the information 565 00:29:57,440 --> 00:30:02,640 Speaker 5: that's available Villa and I, this is the athlete. 566 00:30:02,920 --> 00:30:07,440 Speaker 3: We're not We're not saying, hey, dude, just let the kid. 567 00:30:07,480 --> 00:30:10,720 Speaker 5: If the kid doesn't want to be there anymore, lick 568 00:30:10,800 --> 00:30:15,000 Speaker 5: your wombs, take your lumps, move on. You're an amazing 569 00:30:15,960 --> 00:30:23,720 Speaker 5: traditional university higher like super higher level of education learning 570 00:30:23,840 --> 00:30:25,560 Speaker 5: institution at Duke. 571 00:30:26,920 --> 00:30:27,000 Speaker 9: Like. 572 00:30:27,120 --> 00:30:33,480 Speaker 5: Relax, it's one person, it's one player. Okay, you don't 573 00:30:33,480 --> 00:30:37,160 Speaker 5: want them there. You feel slighted. Oh you know what, 574 00:30:37,920 --> 00:30:39,240 Speaker 5: some type of compensation. 575 00:30:40,080 --> 00:30:40,560 Speaker 3: I get it. 576 00:30:41,240 --> 00:30:45,200 Speaker 5: But injunctions that he can't leave, you're not allowed to leave, 577 00:30:45,560 --> 00:30:49,080 Speaker 5: You're gonna play here or you're not playing anywhere. Someone 578 00:30:49,320 --> 00:30:55,520 Speaker 5: needs to have their ass whipped over this. That is 579 00:30:55,680 --> 00:31:03,400 Speaker 5: a college hold on, hold on student athlete. If he 580 00:31:03,480 --> 00:31:08,720 Speaker 5: wants to go somewhere else and utilize the portal, even 581 00:31:08,960 --> 00:31:15,400 Speaker 5: if your contract says what it says, just negotiate the severance, 582 00:31:15,880 --> 00:31:20,240 Speaker 5: negotiate the parting of ways. I have no problem if 583 00:31:20,240 --> 00:31:24,280 Speaker 5: the conversations when I heard the Georgia lawsuit. I thought 584 00:31:24,320 --> 00:31:26,600 Speaker 5: it was egregious to say he has to pay back 585 00:31:26,640 --> 00:31:29,680 Speaker 5: moneies that haven't been paid to him. But in a way, 586 00:31:29,680 --> 00:31:31,800 Speaker 5: if you think about it, if the kid is leaving 587 00:31:31,840 --> 00:31:34,720 Speaker 5: to go get more money somewhere else, if that is 588 00:31:34,840 --> 00:31:37,400 Speaker 5: indeed what it is that they're leaving for, and it's 589 00:31:37,400 --> 00:31:40,240 Speaker 5: not just because well, for me, I can go here 590 00:31:40,240 --> 00:31:42,440 Speaker 5: and have a chance to win a national title, whatever 591 00:31:42,480 --> 00:31:44,720 Speaker 5: it is. But Georgia does give you a chance to 592 00:31:44,720 --> 00:31:45,680 Speaker 5: win a national title. 593 00:31:45,720 --> 00:31:47,520 Speaker 3: So maybe you can't use that as an excuse. 594 00:31:47,720 --> 00:31:52,360 Speaker 5: But if for some reason you're leaving because you're getting 595 00:31:52,400 --> 00:31:56,200 Speaker 5: more money, I can understand Georgia is saying, well, we 596 00:31:56,280 --> 00:31:58,840 Speaker 5: want to be compensated because basically you. 597 00:31:59,000 --> 00:32:00,840 Speaker 3: Used us to be able to get that. 598 00:32:01,400 --> 00:32:01,960 Speaker 4: I get that. 599 00:32:02,480 --> 00:32:05,000 Speaker 5: But if you're telling me, and this is what sounds like, 600 00:32:05,040 --> 00:32:08,480 Speaker 5: correct me if I'm wrong, Duke is like, we don't 601 00:32:08,480 --> 00:32:12,280 Speaker 5: want you leaving and we don't want you playing if 602 00:32:12,320 --> 00:32:17,360 Speaker 5: you're not doing it at Duke, that's wrong. That's that's wrong, man. 603 00:32:17,480 --> 00:32:22,760 Speaker 5: That's take take a take a buyout agreement, whatever it 604 00:32:22,800 --> 00:32:26,440 Speaker 5: may be. Maybe that's where college football is heading. If 605 00:32:26,480 --> 00:32:28,400 Speaker 5: you go into the transfer portal and you're one of 606 00:32:28,440 --> 00:32:31,080 Speaker 5: these high end because we're really talking about a top 607 00:32:31,120 --> 00:32:34,880 Speaker 5: what one percent, it probably won't go out one percent 608 00:32:34,920 --> 00:32:37,880 Speaker 5: of the athletes I had this type of command anyway, 609 00:32:38,680 --> 00:32:39,560 Speaker 5: still a buy out. 610 00:32:39,880 --> 00:32:42,120 Speaker 4: You know what's interesting, Jonas, I know you don't follow 611 00:32:42,280 --> 00:32:47,920 Speaker 4: English Premier League soccer, but you said yesterday it's not true. Well, okay, 612 00:32:48,040 --> 00:32:50,160 Speaker 4: and maybe it's not to I never hear you talk 613 00:32:50,200 --> 00:32:55,000 Speaker 4: about it leads what some some teams like you can 614 00:32:55,080 --> 00:32:59,560 Speaker 4: loan out players right like you can. There's different mechanisms 615 00:32:59,560 --> 00:33:02,080 Speaker 4: that are in place that are in professional leagues elsewhere, 616 00:33:02,800 --> 00:33:05,480 Speaker 4: and I wish college football would look at that because 617 00:33:05,720 --> 00:33:08,720 Speaker 4: I do feel like there's a model that could help 618 00:33:09,120 --> 00:33:14,400 Speaker 4: support all of this, and the EPL model with the 619 00:33:14,480 --> 00:33:17,480 Speaker 4: lower tier leagues two would make a lot of sense 620 00:33:17,520 --> 00:33:20,480 Speaker 4: for college football. It would reward those programs that maybe 621 00:33:20,520 --> 00:33:22,360 Speaker 4: aren't viewed as blue blood, that don't have as much 622 00:33:22,400 --> 00:33:25,560 Speaker 4: cash and so forth for their success and allow them 623 00:33:25,560 --> 00:33:29,000 Speaker 4: to get promoted. And it would relegate programs that I 624 00:33:29,000 --> 00:33:31,880 Speaker 4: mean not trying to hate on Rutgers, just saying I 625 00:33:31,880 --> 00:33:33,560 Speaker 4: haven't really played much of a factor in a lot 626 00:33:33,600 --> 00:33:36,640 Speaker 4: of I mean, you could pick your school that hasn't 627 00:33:36,680 --> 00:33:39,280 Speaker 4: really been able to hold up. It's part of the 628 00:33:39,280 --> 00:33:42,520 Speaker 4: bill in some of these bigger conferences, and if they 629 00:33:42,560 --> 00:33:44,480 Speaker 4: get relegated down, so be it. They have the opportunity 630 00:33:44,520 --> 00:33:48,320 Speaker 4: to get promoted back up. But to me, that would 631 00:33:48,320 --> 00:33:51,400 Speaker 4: be a much better model for college football. And I've 632 00:33:51,400 --> 00:33:54,080 Speaker 4: always said just from my time going over there to 633 00:33:54,200 --> 00:33:57,920 Speaker 4: watch those games, that is the closest thing in America 634 00:33:59,000 --> 00:34:02,080 Speaker 4: to what they experience. It's there as far as the culture, 635 00:34:02,360 --> 00:34:06,320 Speaker 4: the fandom, the fanatics that are around the game, and really, 636 00:34:06,840 --> 00:34:09,840 Speaker 4: quite frankly like the way this is set up. It 637 00:34:09,880 --> 00:34:12,520 Speaker 4: would be the easiest way to handle situations like this. 638 00:34:12,800 --> 00:34:14,600 Speaker 4: It really would. We don't have enough time. We got 639 00:34:14,680 --> 00:34:16,800 Speaker 4: to hit the break. But I'm just saying I wish 640 00:34:16,840 --> 00:34:18,960 Speaker 4: someone would take a deeper dive and look at saying 641 00:34:19,400 --> 00:34:20,880 Speaker 4: maybe this is something we could We should have an 642 00:34:20,880 --> 00:34:24,640 Speaker 4: American sports there's some sort of promotion relegation model, because 643 00:34:24,640 --> 00:34:25,560 Speaker 4: we don't have it right now. 644 00:34:25,680 --> 00:34:28,080 Speaker 5: When they bring you on, just make sure I'm with you. 645 00:34:28,560 --> 00:34:30,959 Speaker 5: I'm with you, you know. That's that's all I said. 646 00:34:31,040 --> 00:34:34,280 Speaker 5: Just make sure I'm like your special partner. Can't counsel, 647 00:34:34,719 --> 00:34:37,200 Speaker 5: you know, because we can go through the yeast to 648 00:34:37,239 --> 00:34:40,040 Speaker 5: get to the dough together and this just let me. 649 00:34:40,000 --> 00:34:43,759 Speaker 1: Know, speaking of lead, sure did get full of that 650 00:34:43,840 --> 00:34:49,160 Speaker 1: yeast over the weekend. Huhuang talking about this right, No 651 00:34:49,400 --> 00:34:50,920 Speaker 1: le me look it up wi Fi. 652 00:34:51,040 --> 00:34:53,560 Speaker 4: This is a great goal. It's so silly, bro. 653 00:34:54,520 --> 00:34:54,839 Speaker 3: It is. 654 00:34:54,880 --> 00:34:56,680 Speaker 1: Two Pros and a Cup of Joe. 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Good thing, the guys are here to 682 00:36:14,880 --> 00:36:18,880 Speaker 8: bring you in case you missed it. 683 00:36:18,800 --> 00:36:20,760 Speaker 1: And for that we turned it over to our executive producer, 684 00:36:20,840 --> 00:36:22,880 Speaker 1: the one and only Patrick Sweek Patty. 685 00:36:32,960 --> 00:36:44,360 Speaker 9: Alright, sneaking a little bit of a no no, no, 686 00:36:44,640 --> 00:36:45,120 Speaker 9: no boo. 687 00:36:45,239 --> 00:36:47,920 Speaker 3: All right, well it's your boy, your boy. 688 00:36:48,400 --> 00:36:50,960 Speaker 10: Yeah, let's let's get in case you missed it, because 689 00:36:50,960 --> 00:36:54,959 Speaker 10: that that that fell, that's time. In case you missed 690 00:36:54,960 --> 00:36:57,160 Speaker 10: the time, guys, well, I have a first one here. 691 00:36:57,239 --> 00:37:00,839 Speaker 10: So Joe Mixon. We all know he's been out for 692 00:37:00,960 --> 00:37:04,200 Speaker 10: what's felt like years, it's really been one, but he 693 00:37:04,239 --> 00:37:07,040 Speaker 10: had that freak injury. Well, Nick Cassario, the gem of 694 00:37:07,040 --> 00:37:11,239 Speaker 10: the Texans, actually she had somewhat of somewhat honestly we 695 00:37:11,280 --> 00:37:13,280 Speaker 10: have a sound for it, and I give a listen here. 696 00:37:13,560 --> 00:37:15,439 Speaker 2: You guys don't want to disclose it to a reason 697 00:37:15,480 --> 00:37:17,480 Speaker 2: why we can't just have what happened. 698 00:37:17,600 --> 00:37:19,960 Speaker 11: Yeah, No, I would say he didn't do anything off 699 00:37:19,960 --> 00:37:21,840 Speaker 11: the field. It wasn't like he was riding like a 700 00:37:21,880 --> 00:37:24,200 Speaker 11: snowmobile or anything like that. I'd say it was just 701 00:37:24,239 --> 00:37:27,920 Speaker 11: more of a medical condition or situation that just we 702 00:37:28,080 --> 00:37:31,840 Speaker 11: never it really didn't improve, maybe as much as everybody 703 00:37:31,880 --> 00:37:33,759 Speaker 11: would have hoped. I mean, I'm not trying to like 704 00:37:33,800 --> 00:37:36,200 Speaker 11: evade the question. I think that's the reality of the situation. 705 00:37:36,280 --> 00:37:37,960 Speaker 11: So like he didn't jump off a building, like he 706 00:37:38,040 --> 00:37:40,480 Speaker 11: wasn't cliff diving or anything like that. He wasn't doing 707 00:37:40,480 --> 00:37:44,320 Speaker 11: anything irresponsible. It was just it was a freak thing anesto. 708 00:37:44,360 --> 00:37:46,680 Speaker 11: I've never seen it, you know, just the condition. 709 00:37:47,080 --> 00:37:48,879 Speaker 3: Hope that situation will improve. 710 00:37:48,600 --> 00:37:49,200 Speaker 4: Before next time. 711 00:37:49,280 --> 00:37:49,680 Speaker 3: We'll see. 712 00:37:49,719 --> 00:37:51,759 Speaker 11: I mean, I believe me, I'm not smart enough to 713 00:37:51,760 --> 00:37:53,560 Speaker 11: be a doctor, so I mean I'll leave that up 714 00:37:53,560 --> 00:37:55,879 Speaker 11: to the medical experts. And you know, once we going 715 00:37:55,920 --> 00:37:57,480 Speaker 11: back to some of your other questions, we get a 716 00:37:57,480 --> 00:37:59,600 Speaker 11: little bit more clarity, more information, then we'll kind of 717 00:37:59,600 --> 00:38:01,280 Speaker 11: see where we are moving forward. 718 00:38:02,000 --> 00:38:09,640 Speaker 4: What happened. I mean, Jonas, you made a pretty ridiculous allegation. Okay, 719 00:38:09,680 --> 00:38:11,920 Speaker 4: you did, and I think he just cleared that up. 720 00:38:12,120 --> 00:38:15,960 Speaker 1: But well, I mean, there's just been some speculation online 721 00:38:16,840 --> 00:38:19,000 Speaker 1: that Joe Mixon shot himself. 722 00:38:20,239 --> 00:38:23,279 Speaker 5: That was a rumor online. Well you can't say you've 723 00:38:23,280 --> 00:38:25,680 Speaker 5: never seen that before. My homie covered that off. 724 00:38:25,920 --> 00:38:27,640 Speaker 3: Oh come on, well, I'm just. 725 00:38:27,600 --> 00:38:30,640 Speaker 5: Being honest, like that's man, we can be real here, 726 00:38:30,719 --> 00:38:31,799 Speaker 5: we can be honest. 727 00:38:31,600 --> 00:38:35,440 Speaker 3: Like that's that's been done before. That's not unique, like 728 00:38:35,520 --> 00:38:38,479 Speaker 3: shot himself on purpose? Not on purpose? What would shoot 729 00:38:38,520 --> 00:38:44,839 Speaker 3: themselves on purpose? What? Many people? Doesn't work that way? 730 00:38:44,960 --> 00:38:45,120 Speaker 4: Yeah? 731 00:38:45,239 --> 00:38:48,879 Speaker 5: Actually, yeah, no, Lorrena doesn't work that way. 732 00:38:49,200 --> 00:38:50,120 Speaker 3: It was accidental. 733 00:38:50,280 --> 00:38:53,920 Speaker 5: I don't really think anybody who's playing in the NFL 734 00:38:54,000 --> 00:38:58,400 Speaker 5: would want to purposely bust a cap in their own ass, 735 00:38:58,440 --> 00:39:01,319 Speaker 5: like damn, yeah, dang, I don't think so. 736 00:39:02,880 --> 00:39:04,040 Speaker 3: But that would be interesting. 737 00:39:04,160 --> 00:39:08,200 Speaker 5: He didn't mentioned gunshot, He mentioned jumping off of a building. 738 00:39:08,280 --> 00:39:10,280 Speaker 5: He meant, mentioned snow mobile. 739 00:39:10,880 --> 00:39:11,839 Speaker 3: He did not mention. 740 00:39:12,040 --> 00:39:15,839 Speaker 4: He said it was nothing irresponsible. Wouldn't that fall into 741 00:39:15,840 --> 00:39:17,040 Speaker 4: that category? Yeah? I would? 742 00:39:17,480 --> 00:39:19,760 Speaker 3: Okay, how does a rumor like that get started? 743 00:39:20,120 --> 00:39:25,680 Speaker 4: You and people are like, oh, I heard this Judas 744 00:39:25,760 --> 00:39:27,080 Speaker 4: Knox guys say this. 745 00:39:27,040 --> 00:39:29,440 Speaker 1: Hey, Joe Mixon, if you're listening, man, I did not 746 00:39:29,560 --> 00:39:32,280 Speaker 1: start that rumor. I simply you just did. I simply 747 00:39:32,800 --> 00:39:37,000 Speaker 1: just did tell. And actually, if you want to get 748 00:39:37,000 --> 00:39:38,440 Speaker 1: credit where credit is. 749 00:39:38,440 --> 00:39:42,560 Speaker 5: Deserved, don't come out way because you're known to try 750 00:39:42,600 --> 00:39:44,400 Speaker 5: to throw something right in front of me. 751 00:39:44,480 --> 00:39:45,920 Speaker 3: Don't know, okay, okay, good. 752 00:39:46,800 --> 00:39:55,400 Speaker 1: I was listening up on Game last night, bro knows. 753 00:39:56,239 --> 00:40:01,239 Speaker 3: I read it on OutKick. Listen, you know you'll listen 754 00:40:01,280 --> 00:40:03,359 Speaker 3: to ourself. I was, uh. 755 00:40:03,800 --> 00:40:06,080 Speaker 1: I read it on OutKick that they that there's been 756 00:40:06,160 --> 00:40:07,960 Speaker 1: some some rumors that have been flowed out of there. 757 00:40:08,000 --> 00:40:08,799 Speaker 3: I was unaware of it. 758 00:40:08,920 --> 00:40:11,560 Speaker 1: I just know that he had some issue that popped 759 00:40:11,600 --> 00:40:13,680 Speaker 1: up in July and it was like, well, he's going 760 00:40:13,719 --> 00:40:16,120 Speaker 1: to start the season on the pup list and that 761 00:40:16,280 --> 00:40:17,799 Speaker 1: was that and they really could have used. 762 00:40:17,760 --> 00:40:18,200 Speaker 3: Him this year. 763 00:40:18,200 --> 00:40:21,839 Speaker 5: By the way, he's no doctor and he doesn't want 764 00:40:21,880 --> 00:40:26,839 Speaker 5: to disclose what it is. And it wasn't irresponsible. Why 765 00:40:26,880 --> 00:40:30,000 Speaker 5: can't you like when Eric Barry went out because he 766 00:40:30,120 --> 00:40:33,719 Speaker 5: was fighting cancer, like you talk about it, if it's 767 00:40:33,760 --> 00:40:37,480 Speaker 5: a condition, why can't you just it's like explain it 768 00:40:37,480 --> 00:40:40,480 Speaker 5: to a certain degree that it's a medical condition that 769 00:40:40,719 --> 00:40:43,080 Speaker 5: respect the privacy of him and his family. Like why 770 00:40:43,160 --> 00:40:44,719 Speaker 5: can't you do it that way? Like why does it 771 00:40:44,800 --> 00:40:48,279 Speaker 5: have to be so cryptic? I just I don't know, man, 772 00:40:49,160 --> 00:40:52,560 Speaker 5: I don't know. Seems strange to me. Yeah, just say 773 00:40:52,600 --> 00:40:56,920 Speaker 5: what the east on the leg? Man, east on the 774 00:40:57,000 --> 00:40:59,040 Speaker 5: leg and now he can't run as well.