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Speaker 1: You're listening waiting on reparations production of I Heart Radio

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Speaker 1: Dope Dope. Yo. Welcome everybody, let's take it onto the

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Speaker 1: new year. I'll be at the party Matt Deep with

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Speaker 1: my crew near troop pers. That's why we're drinking a

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Speaker 1: few beers until I'm half naked, like I'm the Winnie

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Speaker 1: the poop Bear. Oh yeah, let's say I'm nerdy and

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Speaker 1: what to get my references? You gotta be like dirty

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Speaker 1: enough with your preferences. I got the ship that burned

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Speaker 1: in the touch with a bunch of white boys. I say,

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Speaker 1: Bertie your bus, get it all out your system. I'm

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Speaker 1: all Latin. Then something looking at my drink like all

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Speaker 1: that would mixed frum. Yes, Hunt, it's like I had

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Speaker 1: a relapse. Now we're going over the year, giving a recap.

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Speaker 1: Go ahead and relax and be flat. Show me where

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Speaker 1: the weeds at real outcast? Where's my three stacks? I

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Speaker 1: don't even need facts. I will just elete tracks, take

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Speaker 1: them out the motherfucking system. If they beast whack And

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Speaker 1: speaking of bees wax, manta bees wax, shake your ass

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Speaker 1: until you break the kneecap. I'm glazed. Stay clear the

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Speaker 1: grass let's celebrate and put this whole year in the past.

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Speaker 1: Though Dope Dope, Dope dope A. My name's Dope Knife

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Speaker 1: and we are waiting on over that too, that anything's

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Speaker 1: gonna getting better. But you gotta keep it together because

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Speaker 1: it's gonna get better and better. Used to be defenstrated.

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Speaker 1: So on today's mine for these for the uninitiated, Oh,

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Speaker 1: these people know, like you got some listeners out there,

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Speaker 1: they know, they know, they know the lyrics, and I'm

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Speaker 1: sure some of y'all have been to a Linger Frank

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Speaker 1: Alive show, so you know it's going to get better.

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Speaker 1: That's gonna be one of the many things that we're

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Speaker 1: going to talk about, uh losing in I guess. But

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Speaker 1: in this episode, we're gonna be doing a little recap

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Speaker 1: some of the top moments in hip hop and polity

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Speaker 1: X according to the war Crew that happened in this

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Speaker 1: godforsaken year of painful Like I feel myself physically recoiling

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Speaker 1: at the thought of re living this year, but it's

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Speaker 1: also such anthesia, like time has flown and also moved

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Speaker 1: like molasses, and so in combined, this episode is interesting

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Speaker 1: to revisit U like, Oh Ship that happened this year.

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Speaker 1: I hope you are similarly mind blow when we're calling

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Speaker 1: that a lot of these things happened this year. We're

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Speaker 1: both talking the other day about you know how when

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Speaker 1: whenever somebody who's famous passes away and everybody's like twenties

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Speaker 1: twenty and it's like, yo, people, die's gonna die, right,

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Speaker 1: It's just yeah, I remember, I remember back when you remember.

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Speaker 1: I remember when SI was like everyone thought it was

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Speaker 1: the worst, the worst year. Prince so I got elected.

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Speaker 1: Everyone's like, this is so whack, it's not gonna get

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Speaker 1: Did you just meet the wish was ever happened in

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Speaker 1: the Yeah, was like in the wounds, like ready to

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Speaker 1: just up out blazon. Well, how did you experience this year?

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Speaker 1: Just on a personal note, like where were you at

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Speaker 1: the beginning of the year to where you are now

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Speaker 1: as a person? A lot of about hoc Um. Earlier

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Speaker 1: in the year, I was like getting my life right,

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Speaker 1: you know, it's you know, in in broking, imbricating like

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Speaker 1: now I just struggled out to dissociate. I think I'm

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Speaker 1: kind of the same way. Yeah, I came into Twitter.

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Speaker 1: It's funny with like a lot of musical ambition, and

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Speaker 1: what I mean, I think it's finally gonna be your year. Kid,

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Speaker 1: We're gonna do all this itself myself. Well yeah, like

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Speaker 1: for three months, we're gonna we're gonna speak, we're gonna

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Speaker 1: do live podcast late. So so with that said, you know,

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Speaker 1: comment so that we get another season. We want to

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Speaker 1: run that back. We want to run that back. But

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Speaker 1: going back. We're gonna go back to the month of January.

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Speaker 1: What are we doing in January, very start of the year.

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Speaker 1: Things were already rocky. The US withdrew from the Nuclear

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Speaker 1: year with Ran back in thousand eighteen. Repost stations were

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Speaker 1: January three, twenty January twenty boom, we assassinated the second

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Speaker 1: going to war? Like we like jumped up the third

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Speaker 1: But you gotta remember later on in that month Kobe

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Speaker 1: Eminem slim Shady himself released his eleventh studio album, Music

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Speaker 1: just mean when Eminem was like relevant to like my

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Speaker 1: I wasn't in the local I don't know what was

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Speaker 1: going down there, but um, how did you hear, like

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Speaker 1: how did you hear about Brandon Taylor? And did you

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Speaker 1: did you know about brand Taylor like when it happened,

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Speaker 1: or did you find out about it like I did

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Speaker 1: after like the way I heard about it directly from

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Speaker 1: folks I know in Louisville, or if it was just

432
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Speaker 1: like going drunk Internet in general I saw it. Yeah, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I think if there was. I don't think if there

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Speaker 1: was tape or video or bodycam footage or something like

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Speaker 1: that that it would have changed the outcome, because there's

436
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Speaker 1: a lot of I mean, we know what the bullshits

437
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Speaker 1: evolved of that, but I definitely think that if there

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Speaker 1: was like the var the virility of these videos and

439
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Speaker 1: and the role that they play and rolling people up

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Speaker 1: behind the incidents, I think is like a thing. I

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Speaker 1: don't know what the sciences is behind that, but I

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Speaker 1: would have to imagine that that like amplifies ship, which

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Speaker 1: is why the police do try to like cover stuff

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Speaker 1: up like that, and why they don't turn bodycam footage

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Speaker 1: on and ship like that, and why you have to

446
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Speaker 1: do Freedom of Information Act and shipped to get dash

447
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Speaker 1: cam footage and stuff like that in the first place,

448
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Speaker 1: because they know that somebody reading about something, you know

449
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Speaker 1: what I mean, or something being in a tweet in

450
00:26:53,840 --> 00:26:56,600
Speaker 1: an article is like way different than you seeing a

451
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Speaker 1: video of like like imagine if there was video of

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Speaker 1: them like up that apartment, Like how much more surreal

453
00:27:02,640 --> 00:27:04,960
Speaker 1: that would be than you just hearing a news reporter

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Speaker 1: say it. Yeah, that's good point. Why I think that

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Speaker 1: what we'll come back to. We'll come back to that

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Speaker 1: in a second. So on April no, sorry, on April second, uh,

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Speaker 1: Takashi six nine was released for prison because of his

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Speaker 1: health condition due to the threat of coronavirus um um

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Speaker 1: spent the rest of us in this at home nine

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Speaker 1: is a New York rapper. He's I guess you could

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Speaker 1: arguably say he's in that drill scene too as well. Yeah,

462
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Speaker 1: which I mean it has a hip hop overlap, but

463
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Speaker 1: like speaks more broadly to a growing movement um that

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Speaker 1: I took part in around that time of just releasing

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Speaker 1: people from jail um because of COVID um in carting

466
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Speaker 1: to people software from some kind of chronic health condition

467
00:27:50,359 --> 00:27:52,840
Speaker 1: and you know, these underlying health issues can increase the

468
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Speaker 1: fatality or as for COVID nineteen. But at that time,

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Speaker 1: we've seen no cases, outbreaks all over Georgia, thousands of

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Speaker 1: deaths all over the United States, and so it felt

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Speaker 1: like only a matter of time before it came here.

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Speaker 1: And so we were calling for the immediate release of

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Speaker 1: all vulnerable creatrial incarcerated people, anyone vulnerable to COVID niteen,

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Speaker 1: such as folks over the age of twenty five or

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Speaker 1: forty five, rather, people with respiratory illnesses, diabetes, asthma, heart conditions,

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Speaker 1: anybody with sixty days left with their uh, their sentences,

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Speaker 1: anyone being held for ice transfer UM and looking for

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Speaker 1: a public report on like what their prevention strategies were

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Speaker 1: for COVID nineteen uh, their plans for medical care for

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Speaker 1: infected incarcerated people, et cetera. UM. And you know, many

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Speaker 1: municipalities people were effective in arguing for the freedom of

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Speaker 1: folks being held UM because of COVID niniteen. We've seen, yeah,

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Speaker 1: like so many deaths on account of folks being confined

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Speaker 1: in these spaces who had some who had chronic or

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Speaker 1: underlying health conditions, others that that did it. They just

486
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Speaker 1: couldn't social distance can wash their hands, you know, couldn't. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's present and so um it's uh, it was the

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Speaker 1: that was the first, I mean, other than no War

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Speaker 1: with Iran protests in January, this was the first protest

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Speaker 1: movement that I had been a part of during the pandemic.

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Speaker 1: And it felt very like we're gonna, like, you know,

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Speaker 1: getting her cars and like drive around the city because

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Speaker 1: they were so sketched out, me near each other. And

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Speaker 1: it's just funny how it so pales in comparison to

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Speaker 1: like the ship that went down just a few months ago. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: So um. We also had Bernie officially dropping out. Yep,

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Speaker 1: coronavirus meant that we couldn't canvas anymore, and the Democratic

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Speaker 1: Establishment a tag team against them in a handicap match

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Speaker 1: as handed to him on Super Tuesday, and it was

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Speaker 1: just over and uh yeah, I mean I cry, whatever,

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Speaker 1: fuck you. There's a there's a lot of sad burning

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Speaker 1: people when it happened. But I mean, you know, again,

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Speaker 1: I have the same attitude that you know. The thing

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Speaker 1: that hurt me the most when Bernie had to officially

505
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Speaker 1: drop out is that, oh, when he won those first

506
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Speaker 1: few primaries, I was talking so much ship. I was

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Speaker 1: talking so much ship to so many people and and

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Speaker 1: that was the thing that was like a ship I

509
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Speaker 1: gotta eat crow. But at the end of the day,

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Speaker 1: you know, like I guess I consider myself somewhat of

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Speaker 1: a realistic progressive. I think of these things as baby steps.

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Speaker 1: And what Bernie Sanders started in like, I look at

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Speaker 1: it much more as like a five year project, as

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Speaker 1: opposed to like, yeah, man, we're gonna get in this election. There,

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Speaker 1: we're gonna sweep in there. It's gonna be Medicare for

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Speaker 1: all tomorrow. And you know what I mean, Like I don't.

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Speaker 1: I never like saw that as like the realistic goal. So,

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Speaker 1: like all of these things are steps. Did he technically

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Speaker 1: do worse second go around in the first go round

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Speaker 1: from like a vote number standpoint, Yes, But I would

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Speaker 1: argue that his influence was probably greater the second go

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Speaker 1: around in the first go round. And if you had

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Speaker 1: told me in two thousand let's not even go back crazy.

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Speaker 1: Let's say if you had told me in two thousand

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Speaker 1: twelve that some of the ideas that Bernie Sanders is

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Speaker 1: talking about would just kind of be like the default

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Speaker 1: Democratic position. Now, I would have been like, nah, hell no,

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Speaker 1: the Democratic Party is way too conservative for that ship yeah,

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Speaker 1: here we are, so you have to take you have

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Speaker 1: to take it as progress. Yeah, that's off to you, Bernie.

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Speaker 1: And then in May we had the video of the

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Speaker 1: murder of Amada are Very which should happen in February.

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Speaker 1: February goes viral and the g b I arrest the

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Speaker 1: McMichael's um his murderers on May seventh, No arresting Michael's

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Speaker 1: on May seventh and Brian One charging them with Elnie

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Speaker 1: murder and some other times. And interestingly this led to

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Speaker 1: the election of a new d A down in Brunswick

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Speaker 1: County and November. You know the d A in this case,

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Speaker 1: see it said that you know, Kyle's recommended no charges,

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Speaker 1: press d A recommended no drivers, press down, all down

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Speaker 1: the chain of commanded rooms Like yeah, that's fun until

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Speaker 1: the video comes out and they pass it over to

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Speaker 1: gb I to you know, do the investigation into this

544
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Speaker 1: is the This was like the start of like ship

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Speaker 1: because it's like it was a model. It was on

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Speaker 1: every show. It was like being covered heavy at that

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Speaker 1: tape of like Amar you know, so it was like

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Speaker 1: this huge story and it was like the it's like

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Speaker 1: really like the first time at least me for like

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Speaker 1: first observing like all right, one of these like huge

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Speaker 1: gripping viral moments, but happening in COVID, you know what

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00:32:45,960 --> 00:32:48,080
Speaker 1: I'm saying, And it's like just seeing how that's going down.

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Speaker 1: People are doing the run, you know, the one with

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Speaker 1: the following me. Then what was Yeah, so I mean

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Speaker 1: we're just gonna jump into it because what what really

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Speaker 1: happened in June? But M George Floyd is killed and

557
00:33:10,040 --> 00:33:16,760
Speaker 1: it's captured on tape and the protests of June pop off. Mariah, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean I think we started initially seeing first. Okay,

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00:33:22,920 --> 00:33:27,680
Speaker 1: so first it happens, and you know, we're talking about

560
00:33:27,720 --> 00:33:29,800
Speaker 1: it for a few days. It's it's in the news,

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Speaker 1: everyone's talking about it. And then I remember I forget

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Speaker 1: what I was doing, but you were like, hey, are

563
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Speaker 1: you seeing what? I came out of the room and

564
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Speaker 1: you're like, hey, are you seeing what's going down? And

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Speaker 1: I was like not what You're like, yo, they're fucking

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Speaker 1: you know what I mean, they're protesting. And then like

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Speaker 1: that's when they burned down that that was the night

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Speaker 1: that they burned down the police. Yeah, they burned down

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Speaker 1: the third Precinct of the Mayeapolis police department. That's when

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Speaker 1: I thought it was like, oh, ships different. And then

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Speaker 1: he sort of to see protesting other bigger cities, uh,

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Speaker 1: and it sort of rippled that words into the smaller

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Speaker 1: cities from there. Um, just a couple of days before

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Speaker 1: she popped off an Athens, there was a huge mobile

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Speaker 1: decaution in Atlanta and they were like checking bricks from

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Speaker 1: the windows an in center and ship and it's just like,

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Speaker 1: I don't know how to describe that time. I thought

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Speaker 1: that it was going to I don't want to say spiral.

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Speaker 1: I just thought it was going to have like I

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Speaker 1: thought some of the economic anxiety of the moment was

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Speaker 1: going to like merge with the movement, and that doesn't

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Speaker 1: really happened to be like yeall gave checks. Yeah, I

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Speaker 1: thought it was. I thought it was gonna morph into

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Speaker 1: like a rent, you know what I mean, like some

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00:34:53,680 --> 00:34:57,319
Speaker 1: ship like that, and it didn't. I think that might still.

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Speaker 1: I think I think that one's coming because like you know,

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Speaker 1: from from the standpoint of like the establishment, as far

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00:35:07,120 --> 00:35:10,520
Speaker 1: as they go, like I think they're they should consider

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Speaker 1: themselves lucky that that's not what those protests were about,

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00:35:14,760 --> 00:35:17,640
Speaker 1: because like I don't think when that ship starts. I

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00:35:17,719 --> 00:35:20,879
Speaker 1: don't think that ship's going away in a month or two. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So, now that we're so

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Speaker 1: many months removed from that intense protesting period in June

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Speaker 1: or the end of May, June, July, like, do you

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Speaker 1: think that that was successful or do you think that

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Speaker 1: that made it? In fact, I mean, as of August,

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Speaker 1: at least thirteen cities to funding their police departments. Awesome,

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Speaker 1: Texas UM voting to cut a hundred million dollars, roughly

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Speaker 1: one third from their police budget, investing much of that

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Speaker 1: money and social programs including violence for prevention, food access,

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Speaker 1: abortion access UM. Seattle UH relocated three point five million

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Speaker 1: dollars from its police budget and reinvested. UM cut three

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Speaker 1: point five billion dollars and reinvestment, reinvested over seventeen million

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Speaker 1: dollars from their police department into other services. New York

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Speaker 1: and Los Angeles UM slashes for their police budgets. New

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Speaker 1: York slash billion dollars UM and Los Angeles approved a

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Speaker 1: one hundred and fifty million dollar budget cut UM from

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Speaker 1: his one point eight six billion dollar police proposed police budget.

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Speaker 1: Dan Francisco are proved a hundred and twenty million cuts

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Speaker 1: with their police and chriffs departments UM. Oakland UH cut

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Speaker 1: fourteen point six million dollars ons police department. Fifteen million

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Speaker 1: dollars were cut from the police Department of Washington, d C.

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Speaker 1: Baltimore twenty two million dollars was pleased budget UH, Portland's

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00:37:03,840 --> 00:37:09,280
Speaker 1: sixteen million dollars, Philadelphia thirty three million, Hartford one million, Norman,

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Speaker 1: Oklahoma UH roughly nine hundred thousand. Salt Lake City UM

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Speaker 1: cut by five point three millions. So like, this is

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Speaker 1: what I'm trying to tell people, and they're like to

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Speaker 1: fund the police movement in Black Lives Matter and nothing,

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Speaker 1: and they didn't get anywhere. It's like, y'all try to

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Speaker 1: tell me that in the summer, Acquivius were able to

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Speaker 1: reallocate billions of dollars from some of the largest police

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Speaker 1: departments in the country into other kinds of community resources.

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Speaker 1: Y'all want to call it a failure. Don't want to

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Speaker 1: call it a failure. And if you think it's over,

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00:37:43,040 --> 00:37:47,640
Speaker 1: and like if opponents to like reimagining public safety and

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Speaker 1: like reinvesting in communities and divesting from policing, like if

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00:37:52,120 --> 00:37:55,960
Speaker 1: they think it's over, then that's fine. Because we're more

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Speaker 1: educated now, we're more organized into the next budget cycles

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Speaker 1: for all of these our cities where we weren't, we

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Speaker 1: didn't get everything. We want to just tie roum those

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Speaker 1: that's want to be wide in what like reality or

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Speaker 1: context of people like calling things like this like a fail,

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Speaker 1: Like what what are they expecting to happen? You know

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Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Like, I mean, they're just they're just

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Speaker 1: too I mean oftentimes, especially like liberals, they they're tacitly

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Speaker 1: like signifying they're tactically letting like let us slept that

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Speaker 1: they want these things to fail, like failing to acknowledge

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Speaker 1: the victories. Liberals are under the impression that the majority

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Speaker 1: of the country is actually conservative and that like progressive

640
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Speaker 1: or or liberal or leftist ideas are the are like

641
00:38:48,440 --> 00:38:52,600
Speaker 1: not popular. Yeah, And that's how they operates to believe

642
00:38:52,719 --> 00:38:56,800
Speaker 1: that because like their wand institutional power, when their ideology

643
00:38:57,480 --> 00:39:02,680
Speaker 1: is is like whole, like you know, it's it's institutionally centered.

644
00:39:03,360 --> 00:39:05,840
Speaker 1: So it's like it's good for them to believe that,

645
00:39:07,080 --> 00:39:09,120
Speaker 1: you know, expanding the A c A S as far

646
00:39:09,200 --> 00:39:12,040
Speaker 1: as we could go and guaranteeing healthcare to him and right,

647
00:39:12,600 --> 00:39:14,080
Speaker 1: I mean that that may be the cause I don't

648
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Speaker 1: I don't necessarily know if it's like a conscious insidious thing.

649
00:39:17,920 --> 00:39:21,120
Speaker 1: I mean, some people just genuinely could believe that, you know,

650
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Speaker 1: without it being like, ah, this is good for me.

651
00:39:23,440 --> 00:39:25,399
Speaker 1: They just might believe, you know what I'm saying, which

652
00:39:25,440 --> 00:39:30,560
Speaker 1: I still think they're wrong, but I don't think. I mean, like, obviously,

653
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Speaker 1: anymong to me is like thinking yourself as a police officer,

654
00:39:33,680 --> 00:39:37,440
Speaker 1: and everyone's saying to fund the police, You're hearing threaten

655
00:39:37,520 --> 00:39:41,520
Speaker 1: your livelihood if your way of seeing the world is

656
00:39:41,600 --> 00:39:45,880
Speaker 1: no longer invested in. And so for like centrists and

657
00:39:45,920 --> 00:39:48,440
Speaker 1: stuff like that, they need people to continue to fund

658
00:39:49,160 --> 00:39:52,000
Speaker 1: aiming the graphs and the think tanks and the packs

659
00:39:52,080 --> 00:39:56,160
Speaker 1: and the whatever and consultancies to like keep them getting

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00:39:56,160 --> 00:39:58,440
Speaker 1: their paychecks, like we need. They need people to continue

661
00:39:58,480 --> 00:40:01,160
Speaker 1: to believe in that so they can keep getting a paycheck.

662
00:40:01,239 --> 00:40:04,160
Speaker 1: To say, right, the cops, that people keep believing in

663
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Speaker 1: the cops so that they can keep in cops. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I agree that they in order for those things to

665
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Speaker 1: to to happen, they need people to believe that. But

666
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Speaker 1: I'm just I'm just saying that like someone could actually

667
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Speaker 1: get you know what I mean, like I I understand.

668
00:40:18,960 --> 00:40:22,120
Speaker 1: I can understand the reasoning and the logic that somebody

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Speaker 1: is using behind them thinking no, like there need to

670
00:40:26,920 --> 00:40:30,000
Speaker 1: be more cops because less cops means more cry. I

671
00:40:30,360 --> 00:40:32,800
Speaker 1: just understand, just on that premise, I just understand it.

672
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Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. I understand that I don't

673
00:40:34,280 --> 00:40:36,799
Speaker 1: necessarily take it as a well, what do you really mean?

674
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Speaker 1: But you know what I'm saying, I don't necessarily like

675
00:40:38,480 --> 00:40:43,359
Speaker 1: take it that way. But you're you're you're all. All

676
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Speaker 1: I'm saying is I think that there's it's like a

677
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Speaker 1: it's like a little bit of columb and a little

678
00:40:49,360 --> 00:40:51,440
Speaker 1: bit of Colmy, Like some of it's evil and some

679
00:40:51,600 --> 00:40:54,000
Speaker 1: of it's people are just wrong, you know what I'm saying,

680
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Speaker 1: But the banality of evil, and it talks a little

681
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Speaker 1: about how the Nazi Germany, like the Holocaust was able

682
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Speaker 1: to happen because hundreds of thousands, if not millions of

683
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Speaker 1: people it's just followers. They were evil people. They were

684
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Speaker 1: just told to file this paperwork or or you know,

685
00:41:12,680 --> 00:41:16,640
Speaker 1: conduct this train, or to you know, just do their

686
00:41:17,360 --> 00:41:20,520
Speaker 1: you know job as a police officer or whatever. And

687
00:41:20,600 --> 00:41:22,520
Speaker 1: there was going about you know, I'm just doing the

688
00:41:22,600 --> 00:41:26,399
Speaker 1: bureaucracy just doing whatever people told them to. And that's

689
00:41:26,480 --> 00:41:28,319
Speaker 1: and and that and that's the and that that that's

690
00:41:28,360 --> 00:41:32,560
Speaker 1: what true evil looks up. And so when people don't

691
00:41:32,600 --> 00:41:34,279
Speaker 1: have evil in their hearts, when they do, people thinks

692
00:41:34,280 --> 00:41:36,040
Speaker 1: because they're just told him, they don't think about it.

693
00:41:37,080 --> 00:41:40,080
Speaker 1: And so honestly, yeah, I think these cats are a

694
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Speaker 1: little bit evil just because they're bad people. But like

695
00:41:42,800 --> 00:41:45,080
Speaker 1: if you're willing to like go get on, go on

696
00:41:45,200 --> 00:41:47,480
Speaker 1: to get on to like get your paycheck and just

697
00:41:47,600 --> 00:41:50,480
Speaker 1: like whatever else is following orders, like you didn't terror,

698
00:41:50,840 --> 00:41:56,440
Speaker 1: you didn't ask yourself a lot. Okay, you're you're right.

699
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Speaker 1: I'm not I'm really not trying to covet this like

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Speaker 1: like ar with you because I agree with you. I

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Speaker 1: just I just think that that analogy might just be

702
00:42:07,400 --> 00:42:10,480
Speaker 1: slightly weighted, you know what I mean, because it's like

703
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Speaker 1: an the analysis of how evil operates. I think the

704
00:42:16,239 --> 00:42:18,719
Speaker 1: analysis is right because I would because I would, I

705
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Speaker 1: wouldn't even leave to like, oh, comparison to the Nazi

706
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Speaker 1: Germany is like no, no, the argument is dead because

707
00:42:23,960 --> 00:42:25,719
Speaker 1: this person I don't think that, I don't think yet,

708
00:42:26,160 --> 00:42:28,920
Speaker 1: but like literally like she's like lifted the ship, and

709
00:42:29,320 --> 00:42:31,600
Speaker 1: it's like that's where analysis came from. I think it's

710
00:42:31,680 --> 00:42:35,160
Speaker 1: the spot on analysis. I call Motherfucker's Nazis twice before

711
00:42:35,200 --> 00:42:36,840
Speaker 1: I go to sleep and once when I wake up

712
00:42:36,880 --> 00:42:39,839
Speaker 1: every morning. So I'm not in no way like tip

713
00:42:39,880 --> 00:42:42,879
Speaker 1: toeing around like making those analogies or anything. That all

714
00:42:42,960 --> 00:42:45,800
Speaker 1: I'm saying is that it's like I would even argue

715
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Speaker 1: that Nazi Germany isn't an example of for now benign

716
00:42:52,080 --> 00:42:56,520
Speaker 1: evil or because it's like I don't think there's anybody

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00:42:56,760 --> 00:42:59,399
Speaker 1: who was like living in Nazi Germany at the time

718
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Speaker 1: who genuine This is just just totally my personal opinion.

719
00:43:02,800 --> 00:43:04,719
Speaker 1: I know that we're going, I know that we're going,

720
00:43:05,040 --> 00:43:06,920
Speaker 1: we're we're kind of going on a tangent. But I

721
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Speaker 1: don't think that there's anybody in Nazi Germany who was

722
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Speaker 1: saying to themselves, we're the good guys. I don't. I don't.

723
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Speaker 1: I just I personally don't believe that. I don't believe

724
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Speaker 1: any of them like they're the good guys, the bad guys.

725
00:43:18,840 --> 00:43:25,200
Speaker 1: These are people saying this is a job, but how

726
00:43:25,239 --> 00:43:29,480
Speaker 1: does it? But I mean for the cops, yeah, right, okay,

727
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Speaker 1: But like I just don't think that everybody who I

728
00:43:34,760 --> 00:43:38,000
Speaker 1: don't think everybody who doesn't agree with the fund the

729
00:43:38,080 --> 00:43:42,200
Speaker 1: police is like in favor of a police state because

730
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Speaker 1: they hate freedom and want Okay, I'm just um also

731
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Speaker 1: say like political furious who like studying, I'm gonna try

732
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Speaker 1: some political theories to study the hall costs, and like

733
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Speaker 1: whose family is impacting with that ship historically? Being like, well,

734
00:44:11,280 --> 00:44:13,359
Speaker 1: I don't think people a Nazi Germany were like that. Look,

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Speaker 1: I'm not Chop Liver. I come at speaking of issues

736
00:44:16,160 --> 00:44:19,919
Speaker 1: of war with like a personal perspective as well. I'm

737
00:44:19,960 --> 00:44:22,400
Speaker 1: just saying my personal opinion that's not even disagreeing with

738
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Speaker 1: the political theorist. I'm just saying I kind of I

739
00:44:26,000 --> 00:44:31,000
Speaker 1: give people the regular every day every man, you know,

740
00:44:31,200 --> 00:44:34,839
Speaker 1: in in person and Nazi Germany more responsibility and more

741
00:44:34,960 --> 00:44:36,960
Speaker 1: weight than like, oh, they were just doing their job.

742
00:44:37,080 --> 00:44:39,440
Speaker 1: I think that, yeah, they were just doing their job

743
00:44:39,520 --> 00:44:41,400
Speaker 1: to an extent, but I think you know a lot

744
00:44:41,440 --> 00:44:44,160
Speaker 1: of them knew, hey, this ship is wrong, but it's

745
00:44:44,200 --> 00:44:47,200
Speaker 1: not really affecting us or we're benefited from it. So like,

746
00:44:47,560 --> 00:44:49,239
Speaker 1: you know, that's just my opinion of that. I just

747
00:44:49,400 --> 00:44:52,120
Speaker 1: I just don't I don't I don't look at the

748
00:44:52,320 --> 00:44:55,440
Speaker 1: history of like Nazi Germany with like damn, you know,

749
00:44:55,960 --> 00:44:57,960
Speaker 1: it was only the people who were in charge who

750
00:44:58,000 --> 00:45:00,239
Speaker 1: are bad, and everyone else is kind of just alling

751
00:45:00,280 --> 00:45:06,520
Speaker 1: in line. We jumped down to talk a little bit

752
00:45:06,520 --> 00:45:09,680
Speaker 1: about August and where the black lives mattered upon the

753
00:45:09,719 --> 00:45:13,000
Speaker 1: police movement. Was that as a fargust But we missed

754
00:45:13,000 --> 00:45:14,320
Speaker 1: a couple of things on the way. We did have

755
00:45:14,360 --> 00:45:17,560
Speaker 1: an episode about protest songs. You can go back and

756
00:45:17,680 --> 00:45:21,239
Speaker 1: check that out around the time that the protests began.

757
00:45:21,520 --> 00:45:27,239
Speaker 1: R t J Ford drops so that it didn't end

758
00:45:27,320 --> 00:45:33,440
Speaker 1: up being the rock one or that wasn't the song. Okay, okay,

759
00:45:33,480 --> 00:45:35,399
Speaker 1: so our t J, that's your that's your fat little

760
00:45:36,680 --> 00:45:38,520
Speaker 1: so what was it? What was it that you? What

761
00:45:38,640 --> 00:45:42,839
Speaker 1: are some notable tracks? Um? Notable tracks? We were both

762
00:45:42,920 --> 00:45:47,439
Speaker 1: jamming that ship? Oh hard hard Um? What's that track

763
00:45:47,480 --> 00:45:50,080
Speaker 1: of Farrell? I forget the name of it, let me go,

764
00:45:52,200 --> 00:45:56,400
Speaker 1: that would be just the name of that song. Is

765
00:45:56,480 --> 00:46:00,799
Speaker 1: just okay? That ship was banned because one of those

766
00:46:00,840 --> 00:46:04,000
Speaker 1: albums I honestly listened to, like straight through so many times.

767
00:46:04,239 --> 00:46:06,880
Speaker 1: The names of the song part, so I listen to it.

768
00:46:06,960 --> 00:46:09,840
Speaker 1: It's like the whole soundscape. But I mean Yankee and

769
00:46:09,880 --> 00:46:16,040
Speaker 1: the Brave Um out of Sight. Yeah, that was the

770
00:46:16,080 --> 00:46:17,800
Speaker 1: first song that I heard on that album. That shows

771
00:46:19,000 --> 00:46:23,160
Speaker 1: so that they released Stigilly on June three, June fourth,

772
00:46:23,280 --> 00:46:26,400
Speaker 1: and then Physic Bowl came out in September, so honorable

773
00:46:26,440 --> 00:46:28,840
Speaker 1: mention Dr t J four and I think they I

774
00:46:28,960 --> 00:46:31,680
Speaker 1: think they did that too because of everything that was

775
00:46:31,719 --> 00:46:40,239
Speaker 1: going on. I love to capitalized and revolutionary Mike um

776
00:46:40,840 --> 00:46:45,840
Speaker 1: um of. There was also that short little scuffle between

777
00:46:46,560 --> 00:46:50,239
Speaker 1: rappers J Cole and No Name around that time. Well

778
00:46:50,320 --> 00:46:53,240
Speaker 1: we can't forget. Also in June, that's when this show started.

779
00:46:53,440 --> 00:46:56,600
Speaker 1: We got launched for it was a month earlier. I

780
00:46:56,640 --> 00:46:59,839
Speaker 1: think we're supposed to start in July, but the world

781
00:47:00,000 --> 00:47:02,120
Speaker 1: started going to ship and they were they were like hey,

782
00:47:02,440 --> 00:47:05,919
Speaker 1: they were like, you guys are black. You were even

783
00:47:06,000 --> 00:47:09,200
Speaker 1: paying right now? Like yes, They're like, bring it into

784
00:47:09,239 --> 00:47:12,239
Speaker 1: the microphone. You know, it's mad funny, Like it was

785
00:47:12,360 --> 00:47:15,800
Speaker 1: mad funny. How like white people were acting like for

786
00:47:15,960 --> 00:47:20,800
Speaker 1: a whole month, Yeah, like Motherfucker's was like it was

787
00:47:21,040 --> 00:47:23,279
Speaker 1: it was like three weeks of food left out on

788
00:47:23,280 --> 00:47:26,279
Speaker 1: our doorstep by this one by grief White people who

789
00:47:26,400 --> 00:47:28,440
Speaker 1: just felt that it was kind of weird. I'm not

790
00:47:28,520 --> 00:47:31,880
Speaker 1: gonna front with you. I know, like, hey, whoever indulged

791
00:47:31,960 --> 00:47:34,279
Speaker 1: indulged to me that, Like it was really weird when

792
00:47:34,320 --> 00:47:36,480
Speaker 1: you're like having a conversation with somebody and then somebody

793
00:47:36,520 --> 00:47:38,520
Speaker 1: wants to say something. It's like, oh yeah, man, no,

794
00:47:38,880 --> 00:47:40,759
Speaker 1: I disagree with you. Man, I think that movie sucks.

795
00:47:40,840 --> 00:47:42,279
Speaker 1: But I mean, you know, I mean, I'm just a

796
00:47:42,360 --> 00:47:43,960
Speaker 1: dumb white guys I know. And I was like, yo,

797
00:47:45,719 --> 00:48:02,600
Speaker 1: shoe show, so um step Sea from Injury Reserve die. Um.

798
00:48:02,680 --> 00:48:06,440
Speaker 1: Injury Reserve is a I believe from Arizona and Indie

799
00:48:06,480 --> 00:48:10,520
Speaker 1: rap group. Um, what do you die of? Yeah? I

800
00:48:10,560 --> 00:48:12,160
Speaker 1: think they kept out in the raps. I know, I

801
00:48:12,320 --> 00:48:15,080
Speaker 1: thought that it might have been COVID related. Um, I know,

802
00:48:15,200 --> 00:48:18,560
Speaker 1: for we forgot to mention. One of the early hip

803
00:48:18,600 --> 00:48:21,320
Speaker 1: hop figures to pass away when COVID first started was

804
00:48:21,440 --> 00:48:24,520
Speaker 1: New York rapper Fred the Godson who passed away like

805
00:48:24,600 --> 00:48:28,000
Speaker 1: he had gotten sick before Lockdown started. And then I think,

806
00:48:28,360 --> 00:48:30,360
Speaker 1: you know, a couple of weeks unto Lockdown, he passed

807
00:48:30,400 --> 00:48:34,640
Speaker 1: away and that was I was. It was a wake

808
00:48:34,719 --> 00:48:37,000
Speaker 1: up call for for a lot of like hip hop

809
00:48:37,080 --> 00:48:39,239
Speaker 1: figures because at the time, like cats were still kind

810
00:48:39,280 --> 00:48:41,840
Speaker 1: of sucking off and sucking around about it on Instagram,

811
00:48:42,000 --> 00:48:45,560
Speaker 1: and I mean they're still doing that, but I just

812
00:48:45,680 --> 00:48:50,160
Speaker 1: mean Fred the Godson dying, like definitely, you know, it's sad,

813
00:48:50,520 --> 00:48:55,200
Speaker 1: like I stopped seeing Cardi b. Corona denial videos like

814
00:48:55,360 --> 00:48:58,719
Speaker 1: after Fred the Godson died at Ship truly after that

815
00:49:00,160 --> 00:49:07,719
Speaker 1: one of our personal inspirations, Uh, intellectual podcaster writer commentator

816
00:49:07,880 --> 00:49:12,520
Speaker 1: Michael Brooks passed away, and uh really sad. Like I

817
00:49:12,600 --> 00:49:14,759
Speaker 1: read his book Against the Web, which like I wasn't

818
00:49:14,840 --> 00:49:18,040
Speaker 1: very familiar with like the intellectual dark Web, like I

819
00:49:18,120 --> 00:49:20,600
Speaker 1: knew about people like Jordan Peterson, but like the whole

820
00:49:20,680 --> 00:49:23,960
Speaker 1: book of Michael Brooks's um sort of working rebuttal and

821
00:49:24,160 --> 00:49:27,360
Speaker 1: debunking of a lot of their framings and like some

822
00:49:27,600 --> 00:49:32,279
Speaker 1: you know, polacies and the arguments, etcetera. And it was

823
00:49:32,320 --> 00:49:34,400
Speaker 1: a good book. But it makes me sad thinking about

824
00:49:34,520 --> 00:49:37,640
Speaker 1: like all of the great like the amazing books he

825
00:49:37,760 --> 00:49:44,120
Speaker 1: probably had. Yeah yeah, yeah, I just so we appreciated

826
00:49:44,200 --> 00:49:48,040
Speaker 1: like as a person that like struggles to understand the

827
00:49:48,080 --> 00:49:51,400
Speaker 1: nuance of international politics, like he made it like really

828
00:49:51,440 --> 00:49:55,239
Speaker 1: he really humanized the struggles of like left movement in

829
00:49:55,320 --> 00:49:58,279
Speaker 1: other countries, and like I learned a lot from him

830
00:49:58,360 --> 00:50:00,880
Speaker 1: through that as well as its compassion. It's like a

831
00:50:00,960 --> 00:50:04,040
Speaker 1: lot of people in Leftard of Sticks, and he was

832
00:50:04,160 --> 00:50:07,120
Speaker 1: just like above the phrase above all. He's just the

833
00:50:07,200 --> 00:50:10,279
Speaker 1: real dude, still committed to compassion and empathy. And he

834
00:50:10,440 --> 00:50:14,480
Speaker 1: was a real funny guy. And he was a hip

835
00:50:14,520 --> 00:50:17,200
Speaker 1: hop head too, So you know what I'm saying, like that,

836
00:50:17,400 --> 00:50:20,160
Speaker 1: that that's that really is what sucks about it is

837
00:50:20,239 --> 00:50:24,759
Speaker 1: because it was like us starting this show. I was

838
00:50:24,960 --> 00:50:27,560
Speaker 1: I was in the mindset. It was like, oh, we

839
00:50:27,680 --> 00:50:29,960
Speaker 1: have like a hip hop theme political show. Oh, we

840
00:50:30,040 --> 00:50:31,680
Speaker 1: definitely got to talk to Mike Brooks. You know what

841
00:50:31,719 --> 00:50:33,879
Speaker 1: I'm saying. Yeah, yeah, it helps one day we get

842
00:50:33,920 --> 00:50:36,120
Speaker 1: to talk to Michael Brooks. But you know, before his

843
00:50:36,920 --> 00:50:38,840
Speaker 1: prety past, he got to interview a lot of his

844
00:50:39,880 --> 00:50:44,160
Speaker 1: like his bucket lest he got to and Silva, former

845
00:50:44,200 --> 00:50:49,080
Speaker 1: President Brazil. I'm Chomsky, I believe Cornell West And so

846
00:50:49,680 --> 00:50:53,200
Speaker 1: you guys should check out his YouTube channel, the Michael

847
00:50:53,239 --> 00:50:56,279
Speaker 1: Brooks Show, his sister, I believe his sister, and some

848
00:50:56,400 --> 00:50:58,359
Speaker 1: of the guys who used to produce that they still

849
00:50:58,440 --> 00:51:00,839
Speaker 1: run it and they still drop episode. But he's got

850
00:51:00,920 --> 00:51:02,960
Speaker 1: all the back episodes. They're all still up there. So

851
00:51:03,040 --> 00:51:08,560
Speaker 1: you can go like actually see a brooks um so.

852
00:51:08,760 --> 00:51:11,200
Speaker 1: Also in July, protests started to weighing a lot of

853
00:51:11,280 --> 00:51:15,200
Speaker 1: cities until that started snatching people in the black fans

854
00:51:15,280 --> 00:51:17,719
Speaker 1: in Portland's and then all of a sudden, you've got

855
00:51:17,800 --> 00:51:20,800
Speaker 1: solidarity protests going on. We're all around the country. You

856
00:51:20,920 --> 00:51:24,120
Speaker 1: got the wall with Moms. That was the people plating

857
00:51:24,160 --> 00:51:26,680
Speaker 1: in the city of Portland to stay in solidarity with

858
00:51:26,800 --> 00:51:29,360
Speaker 1: the people who were getting their ask beat, not the

859
00:51:29,440 --> 00:51:32,440
Speaker 1: lovelies like continuous ex protests when they said just a

860
00:51:32,600 --> 00:51:38,239
Speaker 1: day in other cities down they that ship right there

861
00:51:38,520 --> 00:51:43,200
Speaker 1: is what I think. Ultimately it was like the seeds

862
00:51:43,320 --> 00:51:46,680
Speaker 1: that started making Trump lose the election is like ship

863
00:51:46,840 --> 00:51:49,400
Speaker 1: like that, like ship like that, the clearing out of

864
00:51:49,520 --> 00:51:52,040
Speaker 1: laughing at square. There's yeah, there there's a lot of

865
00:51:52,160 --> 00:51:56,960
Speaker 1: people who otherwise were indifferent or even Trump supporters themselves

866
00:51:57,000 --> 00:52:01,200
Speaker 1: who were like not enough nowhere, nearly trust me nowhere

867
00:52:01,239 --> 00:52:05,440
Speaker 1: nearly enough, but you know, enough for the margins obviously,

868
00:52:05,480 --> 00:52:07,759
Speaker 1: you know, at this point, it's so funny to me

869
00:52:07,920 --> 00:52:11,160
Speaker 1: because so many folks were crying to protest as for

870
00:52:11,239 --> 00:52:17,000
Speaker 1: Trump's narrative, like oh, don't you know, don't there was

871
00:52:17,040 --> 00:52:19,080
Speaker 1: a risk of that it just didn't play out that

872
00:52:19,960 --> 00:52:23,560
Speaker 1: because of course Trump's gonna do like the fascist thing possible,

873
00:52:24,000 --> 00:52:25,680
Speaker 1: which he was going to freak people out work to

874
00:52:25,760 --> 00:52:30,359
Speaker 1: deside of the property instruction. And I don't think if

875
00:52:30,400 --> 00:52:34,959
Speaker 1: Trump hadn't gassed like those mothers and children in front

876
00:52:34,960 --> 00:52:36,600
Speaker 1: of the White House and ship like that to go

877
00:52:36,840 --> 00:52:40,440
Speaker 1: across like I'm not sure, you know, Like I mean,

878
00:52:40,719 --> 00:52:44,279
Speaker 1: his numbers were already rebounding from COVID at the time,

879
00:52:44,480 --> 00:52:45,920
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Like we were, like we

880
00:52:46,000 --> 00:52:48,960
Speaker 1: were already looking at a ship like yo, how how

881
00:52:49,120 --> 00:52:52,160
Speaker 1: is he not like having only approval rating? And then

882
00:52:52,440 --> 00:52:55,600
Speaker 1: the Lafayette Square thing happens and then he starts tanking,

883
00:52:56,480 --> 00:52:59,759
Speaker 1: So you know, I don't want to say it's a

884
00:52:59,800 --> 00:53:03,480
Speaker 1: bend of it. It's never good to see cops writing

885
00:53:03,600 --> 00:53:06,840
Speaker 1: and beating people fucking shouldn't snatching people up into black vans.

886
00:53:07,200 --> 00:53:13,320
Speaker 1: But maybe Americans need to like see the diet version

887
00:53:13,600 --> 00:53:15,759
Speaker 1: of that sort of ship, you know what I'm saying,

888
00:53:15,840 --> 00:53:18,560
Speaker 1: before Tom Cotton or Tucker Carlson comes in and starts

889
00:53:18,640 --> 00:53:21,400
Speaker 1: really making motherfucker's disappear for real, for real and like

890
00:53:21,760 --> 00:53:26,480
Speaker 1: using the full scope of the weight of the Federal

891
00:53:26,560 --> 00:53:28,440
Speaker 1: government in order to do so. Like a lot of

892
00:53:28,480 --> 00:53:31,879
Speaker 1: this Trump ship, it's not dry run, it's not test run,

893
00:53:32,040 --> 00:53:34,920
Speaker 1: but it's like it, you know, like none of these

894
00:53:34,960 --> 00:53:37,760
Speaker 1: guys are evil geniuses, Like they are like actual idiots

895
00:53:38,040 --> 00:53:41,520
Speaker 1: that just you know what I mean, have like disproportionate

896
00:53:41,600 --> 00:53:44,239
Speaker 1: influence in money and power, but at the end of

897
00:53:44,239 --> 00:53:47,160
Speaker 1: the day, like they've proven to be pretty incompetent. You

898
00:53:47,320 --> 00:53:48,840
Speaker 1: kind of have to be to be a fascist. You

899
00:53:48,920 --> 00:53:51,040
Speaker 1: have to not know what the funk you're doing as

900
00:53:51,080 --> 00:53:53,800
Speaker 1: far as like running a country and ship. But some

901
00:53:53,960 --> 00:53:56,520
Speaker 1: of these cats who are waiting out there in in

902
00:53:57,400 --> 00:54:01,080
Speaker 1: the wings, who like just saw like oh you mean,

903
00:54:01,160 --> 00:54:03,680
Speaker 1: we had like black van snatching people up out the

904
00:54:03,760 --> 00:54:06,239
Speaker 1: streets and it was only kind of sort of a

905
00:54:06,280 --> 00:54:09,759
Speaker 1: big deal. All right, all right, I keep that in mind,

906
00:54:09,760 --> 00:54:10,840
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Oh what you mean? We

907
00:54:10,960 --> 00:54:13,680
Speaker 1: we gassed like mothers, you know what I mean, in kids,

908
00:54:14,000 --> 00:54:21,360
Speaker 1: and it was just like people was just like angry. Yeah, yeah,

909
00:54:21,680 --> 00:54:30,520
Speaker 1: Candice owns a tucker. First one, I don't want to

910
00:54:30,560 --> 00:54:34,120
Speaker 1: speak that to existed. Let me stop, let me stop.

911
00:54:35,360 --> 00:54:39,400
Speaker 1: I've dated too many witches who are probably making spells

912
00:54:39,520 --> 00:54:41,880
Speaker 1: right now to make that ship happen. Just to fucking

913
00:54:42,120 --> 00:54:50,600
Speaker 1: spite me. So let's not all right? Um, where we at?

914
00:54:50,640 --> 00:54:53,200
Speaker 1: Where we at? Whereat where that was just August? Correct,

915
00:54:53,400 --> 00:54:55,919
Speaker 1: We're back in August. Rape one announce is the third

916
00:54:55,920 --> 00:54:58,480
Speaker 1: in solvent of all we got for keeping Linz at

917
00:54:58,480 --> 00:55:01,040
Speaker 1: the original trench twenty five? Did you get to hear that?

918
00:55:02,760 --> 00:55:07,759
Speaker 1: But about I thought it was announced it. Oh no,

919
00:55:07,960 --> 00:55:15,719
Speaker 1: it was only announced, yeah, ann but it was coming out. Um,

920
00:55:16,520 --> 00:55:21,200
Speaker 1: I guess I'm looking forward to it. I really, you know,

921
00:55:21,280 --> 00:55:23,560
Speaker 1: I would. I so much would be more looking forward

922
00:55:23,600 --> 00:55:27,560
Speaker 1: to if it was, um, if it was just like

923
00:55:27,640 --> 00:55:29,880
Speaker 1: a new Red KWin album coming out. You know what

924
00:55:29,920 --> 00:55:33,959
Speaker 1: I'm saying. Yeah, you gave us the sequel and it's like, okay,

925
00:55:34,040 --> 00:55:36,560
Speaker 1: that's cool, like the Nest and it was like almost

926
00:55:36,600 --> 00:55:38,600
Speaker 1: a decade apart, so it's like cool. I get it.

927
00:55:38,640 --> 00:55:40,200
Speaker 1: I get the nostalgia of it. But it's like, at

928
00:55:40,239 --> 00:55:43,400
Speaker 1: this point, if you're putting out a three instead of

929
00:55:43,520 --> 00:55:46,040
Speaker 1: just giving us like you know, like we we I

930
00:55:46,160 --> 00:55:49,799
Speaker 1: think that that's like it's like not trusting the pool

931
00:55:49,840 --> 00:55:54,000
Speaker 1: that he hasn't just being read a little more self confidence. Man,

932
00:55:54,600 --> 00:55:59,360
Speaker 1: I'll listen to your album. Yeah. I was also okay

933
00:55:59,360 --> 00:56:02,440
Speaker 1: and with the two Jacob Blake, which saw our resurgence

934
00:56:02,560 --> 00:56:06,200
Speaker 1: of the protest movement both here in Athens and across

935
00:56:06,239 --> 00:56:08,440
Speaker 1: the country. And again I've been your own point was,

936
00:56:08,640 --> 00:56:11,160
Speaker 1: you know, when you can see something visceral like that

937
00:56:11,360 --> 00:56:14,040
Speaker 1: on video, you know, you like see the children in

938
00:56:14,120 --> 00:56:16,120
Speaker 1: the car or whatever. I mean, if that wasn't the

939
00:56:16,200 --> 00:56:19,080
Speaker 1: case they then it would be a lot easier for

940
00:56:19,200 --> 00:56:21,800
Speaker 1: these tapes to be gotten, you know, I mean, especially

941
00:56:21,840 --> 00:56:23,480
Speaker 1: when the cops think that it looks bad, you know

942
00:56:23,480 --> 00:56:25,040
Speaker 1: what I'm saying that they would care a lot less

943
00:56:25,080 --> 00:56:26,719
Speaker 1: if they didn't think that it had that sort of

944
00:56:27,239 --> 00:56:32,360
Speaker 1: way behind it. September brought us God, you know this

945
00:56:33,400 --> 00:56:35,680
Speaker 1: thinking back to this now, this kind of feels like

946
00:56:35,840 --> 00:56:38,320
Speaker 1: it was almost world chattering when it happened too. But

947
00:56:38,440 --> 00:56:45,520
Speaker 1: when Ruth Bader Ginsburg died, their ships thought it was

948
00:56:45,560 --> 00:56:51,759
Speaker 1: gonna be handmade's tail they're not here. It's interesting. They're like, like,

949
00:56:51,880 --> 00:56:56,279
Speaker 1: you know, they've they've they've allowed multiple federal executions in

950
00:56:56,320 --> 00:56:59,919
Speaker 1: the last month. Um. But on the other side, they've

951
00:57:00,000 --> 00:57:04,600
Speaker 1: they're not all of the Trump's election fraud lawsuits. So

952
00:57:04,719 --> 00:57:08,439
Speaker 1: I was like, well, I mean, it's like I don't

953
00:57:08,480 --> 00:57:11,439
Speaker 1: think that, yeah, you know, I was, I'm I hope

954
00:57:11,480 --> 00:57:13,960
Speaker 1: more people are looking at it with that sort of perspective,

955
00:57:14,080 --> 00:57:19,240
Speaker 1: like don't take the throwing Trumps cases out as any

956
00:57:19,360 --> 00:57:21,800
Speaker 1: sort of like sign that it's like, oh, they're not

957
00:57:22,040 --> 00:57:24,600
Speaker 1: really in it like that, or they're fair minded people,

958
00:57:24,880 --> 00:57:26,720
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, and like that, it's like, nah,

959
00:57:27,000 --> 00:57:32,040
Speaker 1: they just understand how ridiculous it is, like Trump's like

960
00:57:32,160 --> 00:57:34,960
Speaker 1: disputes against the election are. And then on top of that,

961
00:57:35,600 --> 00:57:40,000
Speaker 1: what they really recognize is that them going along with

962
00:57:40,160 --> 00:57:43,800
Speaker 1: Trump in this play is the end of this America ship,

963
00:57:44,200 --> 00:57:46,680
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Like like like that doesn't

964
00:57:46,720 --> 00:57:48,640
Speaker 1: mean that they're gonna lose or we're gonna win or whatever,

965
00:57:48,680 --> 00:57:51,160
Speaker 1: but it's just like, as the as the status quo

966
00:57:51,360 --> 00:57:55,160
Speaker 1: is going now, as the country is now, if any

967
00:57:55,240 --> 00:57:58,800
Speaker 1: of this Trump ship is successful, just put all of

968
00:57:58,840 --> 00:58:01,200
Speaker 1: your plans for like the next ten years on pause,

969
00:58:01,240 --> 00:58:03,840
Speaker 1: because like there's a lot of ship we gotta figure

970
00:58:03,840 --> 00:58:05,800
Speaker 1: out if that's the case. And I don't think that, like,

971
00:58:06,040 --> 00:58:08,360
Speaker 1: you know, the goons that he's put into the Supreme

972
00:58:08,400 --> 00:58:12,000
Speaker 1: Court are ready to go that step yet yet? Yeah. Yeah,

973
00:58:17,960 --> 00:58:20,720
Speaker 1: October Benny the Butcher and Drop Burgard Proof. I don't know,

974
00:58:20,840 --> 00:58:25,439
Speaker 1: boy Butcher, you're saying, Benny the Butcher is a New

975
00:58:25,560 --> 00:58:31,200
Speaker 1: York Buffalo, New York rapper with the outfit Griselda Records.

976
00:58:31,960 --> 00:58:37,400
Speaker 1: He's joined by his cousins Uh Conway the Machine and

977
00:58:37,560 --> 00:58:40,280
Speaker 1: West Side Gun And what can I say, Yo, They're

978
00:58:40,320 --> 00:58:45,600
Speaker 1: just three up North cats that like really spit some

979
00:58:46,200 --> 00:58:49,920
Speaker 1: some real like gully hardship. And the thing is it's

980
00:58:50,000 --> 00:58:53,120
Speaker 1: it's content wise, it's similar to the drill Ship that

981
00:58:53,240 --> 00:58:57,360
Speaker 1: we were talking about earlier, but stylistically it's done with

982
00:58:57,520 --> 00:59:02,440
Speaker 1: like a lot more lyricism attention to like detail of

983
00:59:02,720 --> 00:59:05,320
Speaker 1: hip hop detail, I should say. So it has a

984
00:59:05,360 --> 00:59:07,720
Speaker 1: different vibe in that it's not for everybody. You know,

985
00:59:07,840 --> 00:59:13,320
Speaker 1: it's it's it's definitely street oriented and violent, but similar

986
00:59:13,360 --> 00:59:15,480
Speaker 1: to what I was saying about Eminem earlier, from just

987
00:59:15,680 --> 00:59:19,440
Speaker 1: a craft perspective, like if you want to see or

988
00:59:19,560 --> 00:59:23,280
Speaker 1: hear people rapping at like the peak that somebody can

989
00:59:23,400 --> 00:59:28,960
Speaker 1: wrap it, I definitely recommend Benny the Butcher. So how

990
00:59:29,040 --> 00:59:31,960
Speaker 1: do you think compared to his own way? You know,

991
00:59:32,240 --> 00:59:37,040
Speaker 1: I'm one of those cats that I like it when

992
00:59:37,120 --> 00:59:40,360
Speaker 1: people focus, when artists focus on albums more so than

993
00:59:40,440 --> 00:59:46,200
Speaker 1: their mixtape stuff. Um, definitely just popping in Benny the

994
00:59:46,240 --> 00:59:49,800
Speaker 1: Butcher mixtapes. You have to have like the sort of

995
00:59:49,920 --> 00:59:51,880
Speaker 1: ear and the want for it, because you can definitely

996
00:59:52,040 --> 00:59:54,520
Speaker 1: like listen to five songs in a row that it's

997
00:59:54,560 --> 00:59:56,640
Speaker 1: the same gun lines, you know what I mean, Like

998
00:59:56,680 --> 00:59:58,400
Speaker 1: I shoot those, let's shoot that, you know, and that

999
00:59:58,480 --> 01:00:00,320
Speaker 1: can be kind of monotonous and stuff like that. So

1000
01:00:00,880 --> 01:00:04,280
Speaker 1: him making this album and hearing like how his mind

1001
01:00:04,440 --> 01:00:08,320
Speaker 1: is is geared towards like actual songwriting and and paying

1002
01:00:08,360 --> 01:00:10,720
Speaker 1: attention to song structure and how one song is going

1003
01:00:10,760 --> 01:00:13,400
Speaker 1: to flow into another, and how oh I shouldn't have

1004
01:00:13,800 --> 01:00:16,120
Speaker 1: three tracks on the album that sound the same, like

1005
01:00:16,440 --> 01:00:19,479
Speaker 1: him going at it from that perspective, I think entered

1006
01:00:19,520 --> 01:00:23,720
Speaker 1: him into a new echelon to where before I just

1007
01:00:23,760 --> 01:00:26,520
Speaker 1: thought Benny of the Butcher was like a nasty artist,

1008
01:00:26,800 --> 01:00:28,480
Speaker 1: I mean, or a nasty rapper, you know what I'm saying.

1009
01:00:28,800 --> 01:00:32,560
Speaker 1: And now it's like, oh, like he actually, like we've

1010
01:00:32,720 --> 01:00:35,440
Speaker 1: any of the Butcher probably you know this album, He's

1011
01:00:35,480 --> 01:00:37,959
Speaker 1: probably gonna be around for like the next ten years

1012
01:00:38,040 --> 01:00:41,000
Speaker 1: dropping more projects because like he's now doing the album

1013
01:00:41,120 --> 01:00:45,080
Speaker 1: thing and he's good at it, Like he's even I

1014
01:00:45,240 --> 01:00:49,440
Speaker 1: do believe um hit Boy produced all the beats for

1015
01:00:49,480 --> 01:00:54,440
Speaker 1: this and uh usually hit boys like a completely different

1016
01:00:54,520 --> 01:00:58,440
Speaker 1: type of musical soundscape than Benny of the Butcher usually

1017
01:00:58,640 --> 01:01:01,720
Speaker 1: raps with. So just showing that he's got that sort

1018
01:01:01,760 --> 01:01:04,040
Speaker 1: of you know, mindset for it to where it's like, yeah,

1019
01:01:04,040 --> 01:01:07,520
Speaker 1: I'm gonna like experiment with different sounds too, So it's

1020
01:01:07,560 --> 01:01:10,400
Speaker 1: like albums are gonna sound different from each other completely.

1021
01:01:11,040 --> 01:01:14,800
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, he's got he's got a future. Just stop

1022
01:01:15,280 --> 01:01:17,480
Speaker 1: stay out of Texas for a little bit. Stop Texas.

1023
01:01:17,520 --> 01:01:22,920
Speaker 1: Maybe shouldn't giggs out that guy down? Um. And also

1024
01:01:23,000 --> 01:01:27,520
Speaker 1: in October UM, Troy Lan's got arrested for the felony

1025
01:01:27,600 --> 01:01:33,560
Speaker 1: assault of Thank You. It's so nice to hear so

1026
01:01:33,680 --> 01:01:37,920
Speaker 1: many people are for him, like oh you, here's that sorry,

1027
01:01:38,200 --> 01:01:45,480
Speaker 1: and like, look, no I don't, I don't know. I

1028
01:01:45,560 --> 01:01:48,560
Speaker 1: don't condone any of that ship. I mean, first of all,

1029
01:01:48,600 --> 01:01:52,240
Speaker 1: the motherfucker's just like mad corny to begin with. So

1030
01:01:52,360 --> 01:01:56,800
Speaker 1: that's that's the thing for me, is like I am

1031
01:01:56,960 --> 01:02:01,640
Speaker 1: not surprised by these things that happened with figures like this,

1032
01:02:01,880 --> 01:02:04,760
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So it's like if if

1033
01:02:04,880 --> 01:02:09,000
Speaker 1: I'm watching Tory Lanes move around and how he operates

1034
01:02:09,120 --> 01:02:11,440
Speaker 1: and how he goes about Tory Lanes as a Canadian

1035
01:02:11,600 --> 01:02:17,080
Speaker 1: rapper who it's popular here for some reason. But anyway, Um,

1036
01:02:19,200 --> 01:02:21,920
Speaker 1: we're seeing the type of person that he is. And

1037
01:02:22,040 --> 01:02:25,000
Speaker 1: then hearing, oh, Tory Lanes got in an argument with

1038
01:02:25,120 --> 01:02:28,360
Speaker 1: the woman and shot her in the foot. Everybody's like

1039
01:02:28,440 --> 01:02:30,720
Speaker 1: shocked and a paul and I'm like, yeah, that sounds

1040
01:02:30,840 --> 01:02:32,960
Speaker 1: like something that he he's a scumbag, Like what what

1041
01:02:36,680 --> 01:02:40,400
Speaker 1: you like? Don't don't be upset that you were following

1042
01:02:40,480 --> 01:02:43,480
Speaker 1: him on I G and now you're that he did

1043
01:02:43,560 --> 01:02:46,200
Speaker 1: something you didn't like, because like he was always like

1044
01:02:46,440 --> 01:02:48,840
Speaker 1: on some whack ship, you know. So yeah, should have

1045
01:02:48,880 --> 01:02:54,160
Speaker 1: seen that to begin with. But speaking yeah that rappers

1046
01:02:54,240 --> 01:02:59,040
Speaker 1: coming out for Trump, I'm gonna let you come in

1047
01:02:59,120 --> 01:03:00,960
Speaker 1: on this a little bit. I think I think the

1048
01:03:01,040 --> 01:03:05,680
Speaker 1: way to got reparations, audience, it's got documented, my feelings documented.

1049
01:03:05,760 --> 01:03:08,400
Speaker 1: We had a whole episode about the history of Trump

1050
01:03:08,480 --> 01:03:12,160
Speaker 1: and hip hop and like the capitalist fettization of like

1051
01:03:12,760 --> 01:03:17,200
Speaker 1: how many billions he has even though he's banker ups

1052
01:03:17,200 --> 01:03:23,720
Speaker 1: and multiple times, but does that sucking ship for money? Actually? Um, So, honestly,

1053
01:03:23,840 --> 01:03:28,160
Speaker 1: I wasn't shocked or even let down by this whole thing. No,

1054
01:03:28,600 --> 01:03:34,760
Speaker 1: I mean I wasn't shocked by the occurrence of it.

1055
01:03:35,400 --> 01:03:39,840
Speaker 1: I was shocked by who was involved in particular, one person.

1056
01:03:40,000 --> 01:03:41,840
Speaker 1: I was just I was really let down by the

1057
01:03:41,920 --> 01:03:47,040
Speaker 1: ice Cube ship. I was as well, you can check

1058
01:03:47,080 --> 01:03:50,200
Speaker 1: that out, you get a whole bait. I was less

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01:03:50,400 --> 01:03:54,960
Speaker 1: you know, judgemental of ice Cube than Mac was. I mean,

1060
01:03:55,520 --> 01:03:59,200
Speaker 1: now a few months removed, I don't think I'm as

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01:03:59,400 --> 01:04:01,800
Speaker 1: judge bent, you know, And some of the things that

1062
01:04:01,960 --> 01:04:04,000
Speaker 1: you and other people have, some of the points that

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01:04:04,080 --> 01:04:06,280
Speaker 1: y'all have brought up are notable points, you know what

1064
01:04:06,280 --> 01:04:09,400
Speaker 1: I'm saying, But I would be lying if I just

1065
01:04:09,640 --> 01:04:12,240
Speaker 1: there's just something I've heard every fucking word that the

1066
01:04:12,320 --> 01:04:14,760
Speaker 1: dude has said on on Wax, you know what I'm saying.

1067
01:04:15,160 --> 01:04:19,560
Speaker 1: And it's like, maybe it's my naivete because I grew

1068
01:04:19,680 --> 01:04:21,600
Speaker 1: up in an era to where it was harder to

1069
01:04:21,760 --> 01:04:25,520
Speaker 1: find hundreds of YouTube videos of your favorite rappers like

1070
01:04:25,680 --> 01:04:27,840
Speaker 1: just talking about stuff, so you had to take their

1071
01:04:27,920 --> 01:04:30,080
Speaker 1: music as like what their opinions were, and how what

1072
01:04:30,160 --> 01:04:32,919
Speaker 1: their stances were and their posturing would be. And it's just, yeah,

1073
01:04:33,120 --> 01:04:37,280
Speaker 1: you know, if if ice cubes ice cube stance being

1074
01:04:38,880 --> 01:04:42,320
Speaker 1: like if if ice Cube stance was funk these elections.

1075
01:04:42,360 --> 01:04:45,000
Speaker 1: They ain't ship fuck these politicians, all of them. I

1076
01:04:45,040 --> 01:04:46,960
Speaker 1: am voting for nobody to ship to scam. I don't

1077
01:04:47,000 --> 01:04:50,720
Speaker 1: funk with it. That makes more sense than I'm gonna

1078
01:04:50,720 --> 01:04:52,120
Speaker 1: work with whichever one of thee wants to talk to me.

1079
01:04:52,320 --> 01:04:54,280
Speaker 1: Trump talk to me, bridn't talk to me because Trump

1080
01:04:54,360 --> 01:05:09,840
Speaker 1: is I did okay moving on November election happened and

1081
01:05:09,920 --> 01:05:14,680
Speaker 1: it's still happening. Apparently happen. I was like catatonic with sleeplessness,

1082
01:05:14,760 --> 01:05:16,840
Speaker 1: not even about the election results with the guards to

1083
01:05:16,840 --> 01:05:20,360
Speaker 1: see the electoral outcomes, but like the fears of right

1084
01:05:20,440 --> 01:05:23,400
Speaker 1: wing violence. I think I might probably talked about an

1085
01:05:23,400 --> 01:05:27,320
Speaker 1: episodes at the time of just knowing that it's bigger

1086
01:05:27,360 --> 01:05:30,040
Speaker 1: than me, Like what if they, you know, spring my

1087
01:05:30,120 --> 01:05:32,720
Speaker 1: cat up from a tree when they burnt the house

1088
01:05:32,760 --> 01:05:37,160
Speaker 1: down and max inside, like they kidnap my ass, Like

1089
01:05:37,240 --> 01:05:39,240
Speaker 1: I've been ready for them ship since it does an eighteen,

1090
01:05:39,800 --> 01:05:43,960
Speaker 1: but oh my family will be sad if I'm murdered

1091
01:05:44,040 --> 01:05:50,440
Speaker 1: by fucking Kakekak, Like why I've been sleep I was like,

1092
01:05:50,960 --> 01:05:53,280
Speaker 1: comes from me. Damn, I'm scared that they don't sucking

1093
01:05:53,360 --> 01:05:55,960
Speaker 1: like this round us all up and throw us in

1094
01:05:56,000 --> 01:05:59,920
Speaker 1: the river. It's crazy how it's like that was probably

1095
01:06:00,120 --> 01:06:02,680
Speaker 1: like the most consequential thing that happened this year, and

1096
01:06:02,760 --> 01:06:04,800
Speaker 1: it's just like I'm so burnt out from it that

1097
01:06:04,920 --> 01:06:07,480
Speaker 1: it's like, yeah, you know what I'm saying, like just

1098
01:06:07,600 --> 01:06:11,120
Speaker 1: the whole like election thing. But I don't think that

1099
01:06:11,280 --> 01:06:16,160
Speaker 1: our fears about that are necessarily in the territory of like, oh,

1100
01:06:16,280 --> 01:06:19,280
Speaker 1: we were scared about that, but I guess that didn't happen,

1101
01:06:19,320 --> 01:06:21,440
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. It's like these things are

1102
01:06:21,760 --> 01:06:26,320
Speaker 1: slow rolling, and let's just let's not fear for the worst,

1103
01:06:26,480 --> 01:06:33,120
Speaker 1: but let's just be prepared for anything, because these motherfucker's

1104
01:06:33,160 --> 01:06:37,400
Speaker 1: it's tripping, you know, they are tripping. Like the mere

1105
01:06:37,480 --> 01:06:41,760
Speaker 1: fact that that we're even talking about any of this

1106
01:06:42,040 --> 01:06:45,480
Speaker 1: like election dispute ship at this point a month more

1107
01:06:45,560 --> 01:06:47,680
Speaker 1: than a month out, getting ready to be into a

1108
01:06:47,760 --> 01:06:51,040
Speaker 1: new fucking year. It's nuts. Yeah, there's just no other

1109
01:06:51,120 --> 01:06:53,160
Speaker 1: way to put it. It's nuts. If I can bring

1110
01:06:53,240 --> 01:06:55,800
Speaker 1: anything to the show, hopefully it's a little bit of

1111
01:06:55,920 --> 01:07:01,000
Speaker 1: that international perspective. This is fucking insane. There's nothing about

1112
01:07:01,080 --> 01:07:03,880
Speaker 1: this that's okay, nothing about it that the Republicans have

1113
01:07:04,000 --> 01:07:08,880
Speaker 1: been doing for the last month is remotely okay in

1114
01:07:08,960 --> 01:07:11,960
Speaker 1: the slightest bit. And I've seen a lot of your

1115
01:07:12,040 --> 01:07:15,200
Speaker 1: motherfucker's freaked the funk out about ship that's less important

1116
01:07:15,440 --> 01:07:17,560
Speaker 1: than that. So that's all I'm gonna say. It's just

1117
01:07:17,880 --> 01:07:20,200
Speaker 1: you know, yeah, that pretty much brings us up the

1118
01:07:20,280 --> 01:07:23,240
Speaker 1: present day. We got t o Bernie up here fight

1119
01:07:23,440 --> 01:07:27,760
Speaker 1: to k checks for us, the Senate filibustering so that

1120
01:07:27,840 --> 01:07:32,680
Speaker 1: the Senate, uh is pretty much hell hostage over yes

1121
01:07:32,760 --> 01:07:37,840
Speaker 1: the Defense bill. Yeah yeah, he's through New Year's if

1122
01:07:37,920 --> 01:07:42,040
Speaker 1: they don't prove a vote on two kay checks, which

1123
01:07:42,120 --> 01:07:45,200
Speaker 1: then talks over names for doing Kelly Lessler, who probably

1124
01:07:45,480 --> 01:07:48,000
Speaker 1: want to be here in Georgia campaigning for the runoff

1125
01:07:48,040 --> 01:07:52,760
Speaker 1: which is happening next week. Um, the Republicans are in fighting.

1126
01:07:53,440 --> 01:07:55,760
Speaker 1: We are actually going to be ramping up some of

1127
01:07:55,800 --> 01:07:58,160
Speaker 1: the canvassing stuff that we're doing right now. We've been

1128
01:07:58,200 --> 01:07:59,880
Speaker 1: not even knocking on doors that went out and fly

1129
01:08:00,000 --> 01:08:02,280
Speaker 1: are the block, just trying to get people to come

1130
01:08:02,320 --> 01:08:05,640
Speaker 1: out with this dr t V. Even I got tomorrow,

1131
01:08:05,760 --> 01:08:07,640
Speaker 1: it will have happened already both time me hear this.

1132
01:08:08,040 --> 01:08:10,920
Speaker 1: But if you are in the Athens area, we're doing

1133
01:08:11,000 --> 01:08:15,520
Speaker 1: a UM, maybe this maybe it will be announced by that.

1134
01:08:15,560 --> 01:08:18,040
Speaker 1: I need to tell you this yet. Uh, we're having

1135
01:08:18,120 --> 01:08:21,879
Speaker 1: a goot v rally macan I performing as Will Squally

1136
01:08:22,600 --> 01:08:25,599
Speaker 1: and Jonald's is going to be there. So we're gonna

1137
01:08:25,600 --> 01:08:27,559
Speaker 1: get and play a little show. Were donaldth So come

1138
01:08:27,640 --> 01:08:32,479
Speaker 1: and see John asall Athoser, Dope Knife and Lingua Frankin

1139
01:08:32,600 --> 01:08:39,320
Speaker 1: Squally and um so what are your predictions for my predictions?

1140
01:08:39,360 --> 01:08:43,639
Speaker 1: For one, I think there's going to be another pandemic?

1141
01:08:43,920 --> 01:08:45,920
Speaker 1: You think so. I've been listening to the views like

1142
01:08:46,000 --> 01:08:49,120
Speaker 1: zoologists talking about like d Aford Station, the ways that

1143
01:08:49,240 --> 01:08:51,920
Speaker 1: destructions of animal hab tasks gonna drive more and more,

1144
01:08:52,479 --> 01:08:55,200
Speaker 1: you know, animal species into human habitats where they're not

1145
01:08:55,240 --> 01:08:59,400
Speaker 1: supposed to be. It's gonna be more cross species infections

1146
01:08:59,640 --> 01:09:05,040
Speaker 1: of Do you think that's gonna next year? Yes, I've

1147
01:09:05,040 --> 01:09:07,479
Speaker 1: been scared of this all year and I really like

1148
01:09:08,200 --> 01:09:10,840
Speaker 1: one it's gonna be worse than this year somehow, and

1149
01:09:11,040 --> 01:09:12,960
Speaker 1: like I just say, that's gonna be it. We're gonna

1150
01:09:13,000 --> 01:09:16,360
Speaker 1: be like, oh, the results over wait what do you

1151
01:09:17,760 --> 01:09:24,679
Speaker 1: what do you mean? They they say that they're super

1152
01:09:24,720 --> 01:09:31,200
Speaker 1: gnaria going around, y'all super Gottaria. I don't know which

1153
01:09:31,280 --> 01:09:34,800
Speaker 1: one of y'all was fucking taking antibiotics like skittles. But

1154
01:09:34,920 --> 01:09:37,280
Speaker 1: now we've got super gontaria because of it. Thank you,

1155
01:09:37,720 --> 01:09:46,400
Speaker 1: thank you, nigga, all right, you got I mean the world,

1156
01:09:46,840 --> 01:09:51,000
Speaker 1: the world has super gottaria. Now. They say that, they

1157
01:09:51,040 --> 01:09:53,400
Speaker 1: say they say that, they say that they're super gnaria.

1158
01:09:53,800 --> 01:09:56,759
Speaker 1: They say that in England there's like a super covid

1159
01:09:56,880 --> 01:10:06,120
Speaker 1: now and ship any virus j jengo, you got a

1160
01:10:06,200 --> 01:10:16,479
Speaker 1: light and pulling outrus to a lockdown for like five years.

1161
01:10:16,640 --> 01:10:19,479
Speaker 1: Oh God, don't say that. I have to wrap in

1162
01:10:19,560 --> 01:10:23,800
Speaker 1: front of a crowd or else I'm gonna fucking Jack Nicholson. Ship.

1163
01:10:27,400 --> 01:10:30,760
Speaker 1: I think that, Um, I I mean, I hope this

1164
01:10:30,840 --> 01:10:34,479
Speaker 1: doesn't happen, but I think that our economic situation is

1165
01:10:34,600 --> 01:10:39,160
Speaker 1: going to move into the forefront of everything that everybody

1166
01:10:39,320 --> 01:10:43,880
Speaker 1: is talking about. Um. I mean, hopefully we can get

1167
01:10:43,920 --> 01:10:49,080
Speaker 1: these stimulus checks and yeah, hopefully the neo Libs can

1168
01:10:49,120 --> 01:10:51,920
Speaker 1: get in there and do something to stop some of

1169
01:10:52,000 --> 01:10:57,599
Speaker 1: the immediate bleeding. But um it looks like the Trump

1170
01:10:57,600 --> 01:11:01,000
Speaker 1: administration is like literally hell bent on sabotage in the

1171
01:11:01,080 --> 01:11:04,960
Speaker 1: country going forward. So I think we're going to be

1172
01:11:05,040 --> 01:11:09,400
Speaker 1: dealing with the consequences of that in just from a

1173
01:11:09,479 --> 01:11:14,559
Speaker 1: political standpoint, I do think for for for a little

1174
01:11:14,720 --> 01:11:18,200
Speaker 1: bit of a bright side. I do think that all

1175
01:11:18,280 --> 01:11:23,519
Speaker 1: of this turmoil and all of this unrest and all

1176
01:11:23,560 --> 01:11:28,800
Speaker 1: of this uh lockdown and disappointment in heartache and pain

1177
01:11:29,800 --> 01:11:33,320
Speaker 1: and perseverance, I do think that it's going to like

1178
01:11:34,479 --> 01:11:39,120
Speaker 1: make somewhat of an artistic boom, and I think that

1179
01:11:39,920 --> 01:11:43,519
Speaker 1: we're going to get better music in movies and literature

1180
01:11:44,439 --> 01:11:51,519
Speaker 1: and poetry. Is Wonder Woman eighty four bad? Is it?

1181
01:11:52,320 --> 01:11:54,160
Speaker 1: I gotta see it for myself. I don't. I'm not,

1182
01:11:54,280 --> 01:11:56,519
Speaker 1: I'm I'm I'm I'm not trusting mother fucker's right now.

1183
01:11:56,600 --> 01:11:58,080
Speaker 1: I gotta. I just want to see it for myself,

1184
01:11:58,160 --> 01:11:59,880
Speaker 1: just to just like, how about in the scale of

1185
01:11:59,880 --> 01:12:03,160
Speaker 1: a like on a letter grade. I mean, I probably

1186
01:12:03,320 --> 01:12:09,840
Speaker 1: watching it, but it like is it cheesy? Bod like

1187
01:12:10,160 --> 01:12:15,160
Speaker 1: like learn, Yeah, I really like the first one. That's

1188
01:12:15,240 --> 01:12:19,120
Speaker 1: that's a shame because you think I was hot. You

1189
01:12:19,200 --> 01:12:23,559
Speaker 1: know what she is, but she's not my first choice

1190
01:12:23,600 --> 01:12:25,920
Speaker 1: for Wonder Woman. It's a good thing. We started talking

1191
01:12:25,960 --> 01:12:29,360
Speaker 1: about comic book ship just to do a little solicitation

1192
01:12:29,439 --> 01:12:32,560
Speaker 1: to you guys. Um next week we are going to

1193
01:12:32,760 --> 01:12:36,080
Speaker 1: dedicate the episode to talking about the results of the

1194
01:12:37,000 --> 01:12:39,599
Speaker 1: Georgia Senate elections and what they mean for the country

1195
01:12:39,680 --> 01:12:43,680
Speaker 1: going forward, and then the two weeks after that. I

1196
01:12:43,720 --> 01:12:46,400
Speaker 1: don't know what order yet, but we've got an episode

1197
01:12:46,479 --> 01:12:50,360
Speaker 1: coming on sex Work, and we have another episode that

1198
01:12:50,479 --> 01:12:57,479
Speaker 1: I'm eagerly anticipating, Black Nerd Um Geek comic book, Sci

1199
01:12:57,600 --> 01:13:01,200
Speaker 1: Fi Nerd Ship in its relationship to hip hop culture

1200
01:13:01,280 --> 01:13:04,120
Speaker 1: and the black culture and so on and so forth.

1201
01:13:04,240 --> 01:13:09,800
Speaker 1: That's gonna be fun. Knows what you want us to

1202
01:13:09,840 --> 01:13:13,160
Speaker 1: talk about. Yeah, as a matter of fact, if you

1203
01:13:13,240 --> 01:13:15,360
Speaker 1: guys do us a little favor, hit us up on

1204
01:13:15,600 --> 01:13:18,080
Speaker 1: Instagram and on Facebook and tell us what some of

1205
01:13:18,200 --> 01:13:24,800
Speaker 1: your pivotal political and hip hop moments of were, Like

1206
01:13:25,160 --> 01:13:26,840
Speaker 1: if it you know it was, even if it was

1207
01:13:26,920 --> 01:13:28,680
Speaker 1: something that we covered on the show, just like what

1208
01:13:28,880 --> 01:13:30,519
Speaker 1: what what was it for you and what was your

1209
01:13:30,600 --> 01:13:32,840
Speaker 1: perspective on it. I don't mind if it's a long comment.

1210
01:13:32,920 --> 01:13:35,360
Speaker 1: I like reading ships, So go ahead and send us something.

1211
01:13:35,880 --> 01:13:40,680
Speaker 1: But with that, what a year? What a year? We

1212
01:13:40,840 --> 01:13:43,960
Speaker 1: come to the end of it. There's a lot to regret,

1213
01:13:44,080 --> 01:13:46,439
Speaker 1: but there is some things to be thankful for. I'm

1214
01:13:46,520 --> 01:13:49,040
Speaker 1: thankful that we got this show, and I feel that. Like,

1215
01:13:49,320 --> 01:13:52,000
Speaker 1: you know, we're kind of getting our feet under ourselves

1216
01:13:52,120 --> 01:13:54,840
Speaker 1: with it. And you know what I'm saying to the

1217
01:13:54,960 --> 01:13:57,120
Speaker 1: to the new year and to what the future brings.

1218
01:13:57,160 --> 01:13:59,840
Speaker 1: Hopefully it'll be good things and better than what we

1219
01:14:00,000 --> 01:14:02,040
Speaker 1: in the past. Yeah, I have the same New Year.

1220
01:14:02,240 --> 01:14:04,920
Speaker 1: You know, they'll do to me crazy social distance and

1221
01:14:04,960 --> 01:14:10,000
Speaker 1: wear those masks, masks and get drop on your couch. Uh.

1222
01:14:11,280 --> 01:14:14,439
Speaker 1: And if you live in Georgia, vote and we'll see

1223
01:14:14,439 --> 01:14:19,200
Speaker 1: you Saturday at the Yeah, we'll see Saturday. Um. I

1224
01:14:19,320 --> 01:14:23,840
Speaker 1: think we're going to close off with the rap stuff

1225
01:14:23,840 --> 01:14:26,800
Speaker 1: a little bit different. We're gonna do a song for

1226
01:14:26,880 --> 01:14:33,240
Speaker 1: you guys. We have a song called the Cookout. I

1227
01:14:33,400 --> 01:14:35,840
Speaker 1: think with a little bit of doom and gloom that

1228
01:14:35,920 --> 01:14:38,479
Speaker 1: we had with this twenties twenty, I think we should

1229
01:14:38,600 --> 01:14:40,519
Speaker 1: close it off and brighten the day a little bit.

1230
01:14:40,720 --> 01:14:46,920
Speaker 1: What do you think? Grab your classic rd cup of shining.

1231
01:14:48,880 --> 01:14:51,120
Speaker 1: Here with our friends together, no masks, we're all chilling.

1232
01:14:52,280 --> 01:15:08,920
Speaker 1: It's beautiful. It's could that be h justice justice justice, justice, justice,

1233
01:15:09,280 --> 01:15:15,759
Speaker 1: justice that justice justice just this this bring it stiff

1234
01:15:16,040 --> 01:15:19,519
Speaker 1: bone like I can have to throw the style. It's

1235
01:15:19,600 --> 01:15:22,800
Speaker 1: out of fine, it's strong, Okay, it's trying to feed

1236
01:15:22,920 --> 01:15:27,400
Speaker 1: the whole neighbor How do you do? Hey, it's something

1237
01:15:27,600 --> 01:15:32,640
Speaker 1: for that. It's been a sign the way unless you're

1238
01:15:32,680 --> 01:15:34,960
Speaker 1: repping for the African diaspora or don't even fit your

1239
01:15:35,000 --> 01:15:36,720
Speaker 1: list to come and ask you in this passport but

1240
01:15:36,800 --> 01:15:39,200
Speaker 1: after future rest vision was written by Coretta Scott. But

1241
01:15:39,280 --> 01:15:42,680
Speaker 1: I'm not creachable. A plastic cup up, Susan Beganthony erasings,

1242
01:15:42,720 --> 01:15:45,280
Speaker 1: ask yourself and myself because I wasn't invited because I

1243
01:15:45,320 --> 01:15:47,320
Speaker 1: love and trying to make because I've been fighting beside him.

1244
01:15:47,320 --> 01:15:49,600
Speaker 1: I've really earned this alcohol. Even Spider Man got the

1245
01:15:49,600 --> 01:15:51,200
Speaker 1: white skin when the mask is off and he's to

1246
01:15:51,280 --> 01:15:53,320
Speaker 1: live here, don't give a funk a few black it's wizzy.

1247
01:15:53,360 --> 01:15:55,519
Speaker 1: You stop with the leader Hill and note Will calling Kaepernick.

1248
01:15:55,560 --> 01:15:57,280
Speaker 1: It's one that you really love us enough to call

1249
01:15:57,360 --> 01:15:59,960
Speaker 1: the cooktoil when a lot of category welcome to the cook.

1250
01:16:00,080 --> 01:16:04,680
Speaker 1: Got just this to sir, bring it, starveon life. I

1251
01:16:04,880 --> 01:16:08,000
Speaker 1: can tell us from the stylus got the night is

1252
01:16:08,040 --> 01:16:12,000
Speaker 1: strong that he's trying to beat the old neighborhood. So

1253
01:16:12,640 --> 01:16:16,599
Speaker 1: you go, hey, we've suffered for that enough. That's been

1254
01:16:16,720 --> 01:16:27,519
Speaker 1: the fine it own way. So how you go Hey, yo,

1255
01:16:28,479 --> 01:16:30,920
Speaker 1: when the revolution is over, I'm exploding like a nova.

1256
01:16:30,960 --> 01:16:33,200
Speaker 1: I just took a run to Kroga. Nobody pulled me over.

1257
01:16:33,320 --> 01:16:35,880
Speaker 1: I got blunts on site. Ain't nobody sober? Your My

1258
01:16:36,000 --> 01:16:38,240
Speaker 1: name's dope night. My mama called me toga, go and

1259
01:16:38,280 --> 01:16:41,160
Speaker 1: smoke up. It's all legal. We'll regal we y'all ball.

1260
01:16:41,240 --> 01:16:44,040
Speaker 1: No such things as small people, gun sticks, pots and

1261
01:16:44,120 --> 01:16:46,960
Speaker 1: pans before evil. Now we got plots of land for

1262
01:16:47,280 --> 01:16:49,240
Speaker 1: zero told you not to dream, set us all in

1263
01:16:49,320 --> 01:16:51,280
Speaker 1: your head, that told you not to lead, said the

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