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Speaker 1: uh throughout the podcast. Moving forward, we we got a

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Speaker 1: lot going on right now. Let me start with this.

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Speaker 1: I really think in life there are people are defined

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Speaker 1: in either two categories. Pretty simple. You either have balls

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Speaker 1: and are willing to fail, or you're just a conservative stiff.

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Speaker 1: And I don't mean that politically. I just mean the

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Speaker 1: way you operate your unwillingness to take chances in life,

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Speaker 1: whether that's buying a house that's a little out of

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Speaker 1: you may not quite be prepared for. And then there

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Speaker 1: are those people that are always willing to roll the dice,

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Speaker 1: whether it's a small business owner trying to expand his business,

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Speaker 1: whether it's back in the day, one of the great

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Speaker 1: stories in the NFL from a business standpoint was Jerry

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Speaker 1: Jones took every penny he had and bought the Dallas Cowboys.

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Speaker 1: There were a lot more wealthy men all throughout America

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Speaker 1: that could have purchased the Dallas Cowboys, and they did not.

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Speaker 1: But Jerry was a riverboat gambler, and clearly his life

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Speaker 1: has kind of been defined by that mantra. Now he's

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Speaker 1: the highest end. And I'm not even talking necessarily about

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Speaker 1: Jerry Jones. I'm just talking about people in general, the

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Speaker 1: people that have balls and the people that don't have balls.

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Speaker 1: And typically the people that have balls are successful. I'm

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Speaker 1: not saying you can't be successful if you're not willing

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Speaker 1: to roll the dice. But really, our country in the

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Speaker 1: history of America is defined by those in business, and

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Speaker 1: I think that is what we're talking about here in sports,

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Speaker 1: by those type people. And when you look at the

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Speaker 1: NFL right now, I had I live in the Bay Area,

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Speaker 1: put him on the conservative stiff side. Was never willing

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Speaker 1: to roll the dice and make trades, trade a lot

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Speaker 1: of picks for players. There was a famous story around

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Speaker 1: here that Jim Harbaugh really wanted Odell Beckham Jr. And

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Speaker 1: he wouldn't part with certain picks. Ted Thompson forever defined

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Speaker 1: the Green Bay Packers by just his conservative nature and

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Speaker 1: unwillingness to be aggressive in free agency. I think there

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Speaker 1: is a group of those old school general managers that

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Speaker 1: are dying on the vine. They are disappearing daily. Now,

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Speaker 1: just because you're an older guy in the league doesn't

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Speaker 1: aggressive in free agency. Look at Belichick. Belichick's in his

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Speaker 1: mid sixties. He's always been willing to roll the dice.

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Speaker 1: I worked for Andy Reid. Andy is always willing to

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Speaker 1: be aggressive, whether it's trades, whether it's free agency, whether

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Speaker 1: it's the draft. But I would say those guys are outliers.

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Speaker 1: But there is a new crop of men in this league,

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Speaker 1: some of them not necessary and it's not necessarily defined

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Speaker 1: It took him a long time to get a general

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Speaker 1: he was really aggressive. He's gone to Cleveland and just

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Speaker 1: but admiration for him on the moves that didn't work,

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Speaker 1: And then you get John Lynch and in his first

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Speaker 1: wouldn't touch. I love it. I mean that, that's that's

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Speaker 1: the reason this has been one of the great free agencies. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: for Howie Roseman. He's always been like that. Now there

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Speaker 1: you know, just because you give yourself more chances doesn't

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Speaker 1: And that's what it looks like they're doing. So as

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Speaker 1: In the NFL, Kirk Cousins, quarterback now for the Minnesota Vikings,

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Speaker 1: signed a fully guaranteed contract three years eighty four million dollars.

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Speaker 1: In the other two major sports, Baseball and basketball, for

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Speaker 1: way it works. But in the NFL, the one thing

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Speaker 1: read a tweet from Doug Baldwin, I'm a big fan

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Speaker 1: more players to bet on themselves until fully guaranteed contracts

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Speaker 1: that never happens because this league would be riddled with

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Speaker 1: I wouldn't be against giving quarterback guaranteed contracts. I'm okay

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Speaker 1: the problem with Doug Baldwin's thought process. Most players can't

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Speaker 1: the way I look at it. I'm most people in

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Speaker 1: And that's a great thing the NFL has. It's why

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Speaker 1: in these other two leagues here two things. Players like

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Speaker 1: the Dominican Sue Mohammed Wilkerson for example, two guys that

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Speaker 1: his agent and he would have got the same thing. Hell,

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Speaker 1: he probably would have got more. Richards smart of my mom,

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Speaker 1: no offense, mom like, kudos to Richard. And here's the

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Speaker 1: other thing for all the agents that are edgy, that

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Speaker 1: this is not gonna happen very often. Most players in

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Speaker 1: the league are not as smart as Richard. Most players

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Speaker 1: in the league did not go to Stanford, so I

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Speaker 1: don't think we'll see this very often. But by no

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Speaker 1: means did he get screwed. He made the decisions. Let's

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Speaker 1: end on this. Obviously, we've had a ton of action

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Speaker 1: the last several days in free agency. I want to

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Speaker 1: hit on a couple of deals that I like and

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Speaker 1: a couple of deals that I don't like. We'll alternate,

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Speaker 1: so we'll go one good one one bad one a

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Speaker 1: couple of them. Let's start with the wide receivers, and

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Speaker 1: I'll love these two guys into one move and the

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Speaker 1: separate teams. But the two top wide receivers on the market,

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Speaker 1: Allen Robinson Chicago bears complete steel if he's healthy. To

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Speaker 1: get a guy for twenty five million dollars guaranteed that

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Speaker 1: has his upside to be a potential number one wide

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Speaker 1: receiver with Matt Naggy all that offensive firepower. In terms

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Speaker 1: of coaching staff, a young quarterback, no brainer. Love the move.

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Speaker 1: I kind of a steal, to be honest with you.

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Speaker 1: Some people there was some blowback on Sammy Watkins to

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Speaker 1: the Chiefs a lot of money. It was three year,

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Speaker 1: forty eight million dollars. I view it simply as the

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Speaker 1: guaranteed money. So it's like two years, thirty million dollars.

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Speaker 1: He's twenty five years old, he's he had one good

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Speaker 1: offensive coach at John McVeigh, but he got there during

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Speaker 1: training camp. Andy Reid's the best offensive coach in the league,

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Speaker 1: and he gets this guy for an entire off season

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Speaker 1: with his young quarterback that throws absolute bombs. I think

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Speaker 1: that Sammy Watkins is by four gonna play his best

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Speaker 1: football again. He has to stay healthy. Is he overpaid, Yes,

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Speaker 1: but he has a big time talent and he's gonna

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Speaker 1: be surrounded by Tyreek Kill, Travis Kelsey, Kareem Hunt, and

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Speaker 1: this young quarterback, which I'm telling you anyone in Kansas

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Speaker 1: City will tell you he's got a chance to be

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Speaker 1: a star. I like the move mainly because Patrick mahomes

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Speaker 1: on a rookie deal. He's not that expensive. You can

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Speaker 1: overpay other players and it doesn't crush you. Move I

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Speaker 1: did not like, and I don't think I'm alone. Sam Bradford.

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Speaker 1: You can't give Sam Bradford. I'd say anything more than

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Speaker 1: like four or five million dollars guaranteed. I'd argue that

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Speaker 1: might be a little high. He has a generate knee.

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Speaker 1: His knee is literally always hurt. Every season. There is

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Speaker 1: a tweet from Jay Glazer Adam Schefter rap sheet. Sam

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Speaker 1: Bradford is on his way to meet with doctors James Andrews.

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Speaker 1: That is an inevitable, uh situation. It happens every season.

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Speaker 1: He gets hurt and he goes to see Dr James Andrews.

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Speaker 1: You cannot he got fifteen million dollars guaranteed. Sam Bradford

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Speaker 1: Highway robbery Tom Condon for we just talked about Richard

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Speaker 1: Sherman and agents and Joe Thomas whatever, Tom Condon. Tom

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Speaker 1: Condon deserves of Sam Bradford's career a hundred forty million

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Speaker 1: dollar earnings. Because Sam Bradford never made the playoffs. Uh,

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Speaker 1: just you can't depend on he is not a dependable player. Terrible, terrible,

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Speaker 1: terrible contract. Another deal I liked John Elway Case Keenum.

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Speaker 1: I think John Elway finally acknowledged. I don't think her

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Speaker 1: cousins and John Elway made that much sense. With Denver.

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Speaker 1: You would have had to pay such a premium. Your

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Speaker 1: team is not ready to win. They're kind of going

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Speaker 1: through a rebuilding mode. Draft a quarterback at five, get

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Speaker 1: case Keenum, who's much better than Trevor Simeon, obviously better

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Speaker 1: than Paxson Lynch. Can give you a quote unquote bridge

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Speaker 1: quarterback that can handle you through the next year or

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Speaker 1: two as you groom a young quarterback and you get

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Speaker 1: ready for the next kind of era in Bronco football.

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Speaker 1: Because you're not a playoff team, got news for you

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Speaker 1: not really close. It was time to kind of hit

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Speaker 1: the blow up button. And Kirk Cousins a tad bit sexy.

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Speaker 1: I was told that the Kirk Cousins, John Elway, they

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Speaker 1: kind of they got off around the combine that they

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Speaker 1: realized that it wasn't gonna be a fit. And I'm

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Speaker 1: glad they went with Case Keenum. I like Case Keenum,

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Speaker 1: and I don't think they're gonna be very good. And

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Speaker 1: that's okay, And it's all about setting expectations. And I

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Speaker 1: think he's the guy that you want around a young quarterback.

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Speaker 1: But you gotta draft a young quarterback at five and

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Speaker 1: clearly there's gonna be some pressure on making sure you

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Speaker 1: get the right guy. Deel I didn't like really at all.

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Speaker 1: As Andrew Norwell got over thirteen million dollars a year

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Speaker 1: with the Jacksonville Jaguars. If I'm gonna pay a guard

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Speaker 1: that much money, he better be the best guard in

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Speaker 1: the league. Talk to people around the league. They didn't

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Speaker 1: even think he was the best guard of his own team. Uh,

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Speaker 1: he is a solid player. But the amount that you

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Speaker 1: have to overspend in free agency to get an interior

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Speaker 1: offensive line, Jacksonville is a little lucky that their quarterback

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Speaker 1: is not, you know, a thirty million dollar a year guy.

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Speaker 1: Even though he's on a second contract in Blake Bortles.

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Speaker 1: But I would have gotten the other way. I would

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Speaker 1: have tried to put as much talent around Blake Borders

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Speaker 1: from a skill position, UH, make him look better. I

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Speaker 1: know they're old school. Doug Morone, I think once famously

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Speaker 1: said a perfect game would be when you don't throw

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Speaker 1: it zero times a game, you just run it all games.

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Speaker 1: So I yet that's their mindset, But I don't know. Man,

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Speaker 1: At the end of the day, you win and lose

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Speaker 1: in big games with your quarterback throwing the football. To lose,

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Speaker 1: Allen Robinson basically just swapped Allen Robinson out for a guard.

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Speaker 1: I'd much rather have Allen Robinson, even coming back from

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Speaker 1: an a C l over Andrew Norwell every day of

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Speaker 1: the week and one other one. I like this player,

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Speaker 1: just like everyone likes this player. He's one of the

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Speaker 1: best corners in football, and Marcus Peters. But when Andy Reid,

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Speaker 1: as open minded of a coach as you'll find in

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Speaker 1: the NFL, who also drafted this player and has coached

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Speaker 1: this player throughout his entire career, is open to trade

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Speaker 1: a guy I immediately red flagged. Then Chris Ballard did

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Speaker 1: not was not interested. John Dorsey, who was the general

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Speaker 1: manager when the player was when Mark Peters came into

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Speaker 1: the Chiefs, was also not interested. That's a massive, massive

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Speaker 1: risk for the l A Rams. Not that he can't play,

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Speaker 1: but his personality. Something was there that the chief so

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Speaker 1: much reservation. They not only refused, like I don't think

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Speaker 1: I can pay this guy, they had to ship him out.

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Speaker 1: He was really the first guy dealt. They couldn't trade

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Speaker 1: him fast enough. So for the Rams that really had

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Speaker 1: a good thing going, I know they needed corners. They

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Speaker 1: just lost Tremaine Johnson went to the Jets. Genor's Jenkins

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Speaker 1: a couple of years ago was on the Giants. I

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Speaker 1: like the keep to leap trade. He can play both

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Speaker 1: on and off. He's had a long resume for being

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Speaker 1: kind of a different dude of playing at a super

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Speaker 1: high level and coaches getting along with him. Marcus Peters

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Speaker 1: has a short resume, uh, which you know, it's it's

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Speaker 1: a pretty big red flag for me. I think that

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Speaker 1: is a very very risk risky proposition for less need.

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Speaker 1: He didn't give up much, but just upset what they

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Speaker 1: really had going, which was a staple, a a stable

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Speaker 1: locker room and He's the type guy that I think

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Speaker 1: can kind of ruffle some feathers. So that's that's definitely one.

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Speaker 1: I'm not that big on. Well. I want to thank

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Speaker 1: everyone for listening to another week of three and Out

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Speaker 1: with John Middlecoff on the Colin Coward Podcast Network. Go

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Speaker 1: I'll get to them on the show. I appreciate everyone supporting,

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Speaker 1: appreciate everyone listening. It's been a big success these first

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Speaker 1: couple of weeks. We're gonna try to do what every

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Speaker 1: Wednesday and keep this thing rolling. And again for those

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