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Speaker 1: On this week's episode of Cultivating her Space.

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Speaker 2: Living in a place like New York, living in this

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Speaker 2: digital age where we're seeing everyone's highlights, it's easy to

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Speaker 2: oftentimes feel like you're missing out or something, or that

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Speaker 2: the joy, the actual dope mee hit that we get

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Speaker 2: of people, many of whom we will never speak to again,

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Speaker 3: Never laugh in the same room with.

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Speaker 1: Today's episode is sure to provide you with motivation, inspiration,

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Speaker 3: Welcome to Cultivating her Space, a podcast dedicated to uplifting

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Speaker 3: women like you. We're your hosts Doctor Dominique Broussard, a

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Speaker 3: college professor and psychologist.

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Speaker 4: And Terry Lomax, a techie and motivational speaker. In a

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Speaker 4: world where black women are often misrepresented and misunderstood, Please

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Speaker 4: join us as we initiate authentic conversations on everything from

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Speaker 3: Hey, lady, is doctor dom here from the Cultivating her

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Speaker 4: All Right, lady, today we have a very special guest

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Speaker 4: in Cultivating her Space and this bio. I just want

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Speaker 4: just get into this, okay. Isa Watson is an expert

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Speaker 4: in the human connection space, named one of Incs thirty

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Speaker 4: MIT alumni in Tech in twenty twenty one. Isa is

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Speaker 4: a physical scientist turned social scientist. She built Squad, the

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Speaker 4: next generation social platform enabling people to easily deepen their

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Speaker 4: top Silicon Valley investors for Squad. Originally from Saint Kitts, Anivis,

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Speaker 4: Isa and her family lived in Alexandria, Virginia, before landing

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Speaker 4: twenty six years old, Isa was working alongside the C

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Speaker 4: she ultimately drove multi billion that is a billion with

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Speaker 4: a Steinway Grand to play. She is classically trained Okay, y'all,

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Speaker 4: We are so excited to have you.

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Speaker 3: Thank you so much for having me I should That

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Speaker 3: was like, I was like, Yo, who is that girl

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Speaker 3: And I can't wait for us to dive into this

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Speaker 2: I think we live in this era of fomo fear

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Speaker 2: You know, I've always been a builder from the time

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Speaker 2: like looking back, we were always just talking to each

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Speaker 1: We just want to change the world.

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Speaker 2: But the reality is that, you know, kind of like

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Speaker 3: Know, that was me. I was just checking the next box,

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Speaker 3: That was kind of like the vibe, right And you know,

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Speaker 2: My my parents who were very big community leaders, who

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Speaker 2: You can have only twelve people in your squad, but

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Speaker 2: And so you know, the experience that we're creating is

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Speaker 3: Wow, Hey lady, I know you want to get back

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Speaker 3: into this juicy, impactful conversation with Isa Watson, but first

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Speaker 3: I have to ask you a question. Is something preventing

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Speaker 1: Thank you so much.

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Speaker 3: Thank you for sharing, and so you have put in

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Speaker 4: you have more dreams and goals and more living to do.

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00:23:59,760 --> 00:24:02,120
Speaker 4: But for so many people like you are that now,

438
00:24:02,200 --> 00:24:04,120
Speaker 4: So how does it feel to be on the other side?

439
00:24:04,160 --> 00:24:07,879
Speaker 4: And then what's something that people may not know about

440
00:24:08,200 --> 00:24:10,679
Speaker 4: being in your shoes, like being a black woman that

441
00:24:10,720 --> 00:24:13,520
Speaker 4: has so many accomplishments, so much influence. So that's a

442
00:24:13,560 --> 00:24:15,920
Speaker 4: two parter. I can ask it again if you forget.

443
00:24:15,640 --> 00:24:17,840
Speaker 2: But I loved to know the first question that you

444
00:24:17,960 --> 00:24:21,680
Speaker 2: asked around what does it feel like to be quote

445
00:24:21,720 --> 00:24:24,520
Speaker 2: unquote on the other side of you know, some of

446
00:24:24,560 --> 00:24:27,680
Speaker 2: these schools. I'll be very honest with you, like you know,

447
00:24:27,720 --> 00:24:30,720
Speaker 2: and I keep it real straight, like I don't bullshit

448
00:24:30,800 --> 00:24:34,000
Speaker 2: anybody like That's not my style. I struggle with that.

449
00:24:34,720 --> 00:24:38,800
Speaker 2: You know, my therapist tells me all the time. She says, Isa,

450
00:24:39,400 --> 00:24:43,120
Speaker 2: when you set a goal, once you've achieved it, you've

451
00:24:43,160 --> 00:24:45,600
Speaker 2: moved the line in the sand, so you don't take

452
00:24:45,600 --> 00:24:49,359
Speaker 2: the time to sit and celebrate. And this whole notion

453
00:24:49,680 --> 00:24:54,520
Speaker 2: of learning how to celebrate myself and my milestones and

454
00:24:54,680 --> 00:24:58,800
Speaker 2: understanding that you know, I can my favorites are always

455
00:24:58,840 --> 00:25:02,360
Speaker 2: tells me to say a or like you know, I'm

456
00:25:02,400 --> 00:25:06,920
Speaker 2: not I'm here today and I want to get further,

457
00:25:07,680 --> 00:25:10,480
Speaker 2: not you know, i'm here today in the since I'm

458
00:25:10,520 --> 00:25:13,640
Speaker 2: not there, does it mean that I haven't achieved anything?

459
00:25:13,760 --> 00:25:16,520
Speaker 2: And so I think that what I've been trying to

460
00:25:16,600 --> 00:25:22,199
Speaker 2: do is power through my own discomfort of not you know,

461
00:25:22,600 --> 00:25:26,120
Speaker 2: celebrating my milestones, you know, as far as like you know,

462
00:25:26,359 --> 00:25:28,800
Speaker 2: being a quote unquote big deal and things like that,

463
00:25:28,840 --> 00:25:31,679
Speaker 2: I don't even think that you know, and you know, Okay, frankly, like,

464
00:25:32,320 --> 00:25:36,919
Speaker 2: my goal is for people to interact with me, to

465
00:25:37,119 --> 00:25:40,600
Speaker 2: experience me, to hear something that I said, and to

466
00:25:40,840 --> 00:25:45,919
Speaker 2: think to themselves, Oh, because of her, I can. And

467
00:25:45,960 --> 00:25:48,800
Speaker 2: that's that little black girl who was so she couldn't.

468
00:25:48,840 --> 00:25:51,919
Speaker 2: That's a little black boy. That's a little country white

469
00:25:51,920 --> 00:25:53,959
Speaker 2: boy in the middle of Kansas.

470
00:25:54,359 --> 00:25:59,000
Speaker 3: And so I like, I get so much joy out

471
00:25:59,040 --> 00:26:02,560
Speaker 3: of that, right, And so that's that's how I kind

472
00:26:02,600 --> 00:26:06,119
Speaker 3: of lean into my quote unquote success is, you know,

473
00:26:06,960 --> 00:26:11,080
Speaker 3: hearing and discovering joy in these stories. Super quickly. There

474
00:26:11,160 --> 00:26:14,600
Speaker 3: was this black girl on Twitter who DM me.

475
00:26:14,680 --> 00:26:16,520
Speaker 2: She was like, I've been following you for a long time,

476
00:26:16,880 --> 00:26:18,680
Speaker 2: and because of you, I applied to MIT.

477
00:26:19,240 --> 00:26:21,040
Speaker 3: And then I went and visited and I loved it

478
00:26:21,080 --> 00:26:23,080
Speaker 3: and I got in. So I went and then I

479
00:26:23,119 --> 00:26:24,400
Speaker 3: graduated and I was like wait.

480
00:26:24,400 --> 00:26:29,440
Speaker 2: What I was like, guessis like you know if I can, Like, yes,

481
00:26:29,480 --> 00:26:30,560
Speaker 2: black girl, go to MIT.

482
00:26:31,000 --> 00:26:31,520
Speaker 4: You do that?

483
00:26:31,800 --> 00:26:32,080
Speaker 1: Mm hm.

484
00:26:33,280 --> 00:26:36,680
Speaker 2: So and as far as you know, your second question,

485
00:26:36,800 --> 00:26:37,800
Speaker 2: remind me of it one more time.

486
00:26:39,400 --> 00:26:42,440
Speaker 4: So the second question was what's something that people may

487
00:26:42,480 --> 00:26:45,400
Speaker 4: not know being a woman of your stature that has

488
00:26:45,440 --> 00:26:48,320
Speaker 4: your influence, that's just who you are, Like, what's something

489
00:26:48,320 --> 00:26:51,160
Speaker 4: they wouldn't know about being on that side of the journey.

490
00:26:52,040 --> 00:26:56,400
Speaker 2: I think that so often in black communities and underrepresented

491
00:26:56,440 --> 00:27:01,439
Speaker 2: communities in general, there is this narrative if preached about

492
00:27:01,920 --> 00:27:03,400
Speaker 2: work hard and everything will come.

493
00:27:04,359 --> 00:27:04,879
Speaker 3: Work hard.

494
00:27:05,240 --> 00:27:08,760
Speaker 2: But I think that oftentimes we've taken it too literally,

495
00:27:09,280 --> 00:27:11,520
Speaker 2: meaning it's just like, just get the A and the

496
00:27:11,600 --> 00:27:15,760
Speaker 2: class and get the fifteen thirty on your SATs, go

497
00:27:15,800 --> 00:27:18,439
Speaker 2: to Princeton and go to Harvard Med or whatever the

498
00:27:18,480 --> 00:27:22,119
Speaker 2: case is, and be a top surgeon. But the reality

499
00:27:22,240 --> 00:27:26,439
Speaker 2: is that more than not as a black person, to

500
00:27:26,600 --> 00:27:31,560
Speaker 2: ascend in this country, to ascend in you know, places

501
00:27:31,560 --> 00:27:37,760
Speaker 2: that we are minority, it requires sponsorship, sponsorship from people

502
00:27:37,880 --> 00:27:41,360
Speaker 2: who have the ability to pound the table on our

503
00:27:41,440 --> 00:27:44,040
Speaker 2: behalf when we are not in the room. I always

504
00:27:44,040 --> 00:27:47,720
Speaker 2: tell people the biggest decisions about your career are made

505
00:27:47,720 --> 00:27:50,200
Speaker 2: when you're not in the room. So who's going to

506
00:27:50,280 --> 00:27:53,120
Speaker 2: go and be your advocate? So I tell all these

507
00:27:53,200 --> 00:27:56,560
Speaker 2: young young folks, I'm saying, listen, do the work, but

508
00:27:56,640 --> 00:27:59,119
Speaker 2: also build the relationships. And that don't mean you doesn't

509
00:27:59,160 --> 00:28:01,400
Speaker 2: mean you got to go out out and like go clubbing,

510
00:28:01,560 --> 00:28:04,480
Speaker 2: you know, with the VP of whatever. But it means

511
00:28:04,600 --> 00:28:07,879
Speaker 2: like you know when you I used to go. The

512
00:28:07,920 --> 00:28:10,200
Speaker 2: reason I initially got so close to the executives that

513
00:28:10,280 --> 00:28:12,359
Speaker 2: JP Morton was because I was there at seven am

514
00:28:12,400 --> 00:28:14,280
Speaker 2: with all the executives and no one was there but

515
00:28:14,359 --> 00:28:15,240
Speaker 2: me and the executives.

516
00:28:15,560 --> 00:28:17,040
Speaker 3: So they were like, Yo, what's up?

517
00:28:17,160 --> 00:28:19,280
Speaker 2: Said, y'all have a cup of coffee with me, and

518
00:28:19,320 --> 00:28:21,760
Speaker 2: then it turned into like, oh, what are your thoughts

519
00:28:21,760 --> 00:28:23,880
Speaker 2: on this? Then it turned into oh, I'm gonna give

520
00:28:23,880 --> 00:28:25,720
Speaker 2: you this project, and you know that you know, and

521
00:28:25,800 --> 00:28:27,240
Speaker 2: so that those things.

522
00:28:27,000 --> 00:28:28,200
Speaker 3: Compound over time.

523
00:28:28,880 --> 00:28:32,040
Speaker 2: Do not underinvest in their relationships, and you know as

524
00:28:32,040 --> 00:28:36,720
Speaker 2: a black woman, as a black person, that sponsorship matters

525
00:28:36,880 --> 00:28:39,560
Speaker 2: more than anything, because no one's just gonna like, oh

526
00:28:39,560 --> 00:28:41,560
Speaker 2: with the fling the door open and be like yo, girl,

527
00:28:41,640 --> 00:28:43,440
Speaker 2: come in, come in, says let me see what you're

528
00:28:43,440 --> 00:28:46,840
Speaker 2: talking about. No, like, those opportunities have to be creative

529
00:28:46,880 --> 00:28:48,720
Speaker 2: for us, and we have to have advocates in the

530
00:28:48,800 --> 00:28:50,440
Speaker 2: right places.

531
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Speaker 3: So good, Yes, yes, that is a spot on. Yes,

532
00:28:57,400 --> 00:29:03,080
Speaker 3: So let's come back to talking about your app squad. Right,

533
00:29:04,000 --> 00:29:08,640
Speaker 3: so you have lived experience in cultivating a squad. Hopefully

534
00:29:08,760 --> 00:29:12,560
Speaker 3: most of us know what that looks like. Right. What

535
00:29:12,720 --> 00:29:17,760
Speaker 3: has been the most surprising data point that you have

536
00:29:18,080 --> 00:29:21,400
Speaker 3: noticed since launching squad First of all, I've been the

537
00:29:21,440 --> 00:29:22,800
Speaker 3: app all day, every day, and I love it.

538
00:29:22,840 --> 00:29:25,320
Speaker 2: I'm probably definitely one of the one of the power

539
00:29:25,400 --> 00:29:27,440
Speaker 2: users and like the top ten percentile users.

540
00:29:27,560 --> 00:29:30,200
Speaker 3: But you know, just in a context.

541
00:29:29,760 --> 00:29:33,000
Speaker 2: Perspective, you know, in the audio, you know feature set,

542
00:29:33,240 --> 00:29:35,000
Speaker 2: it's really like I said, you can have up to

543
00:29:35,040 --> 00:29:37,160
Speaker 2: twelve people in your squad, So that's double opt in

544
00:29:37,520 --> 00:29:38,920
Speaker 2: doctor John. I say, hey, you want to be in

545
00:29:38,960 --> 00:29:40,959
Speaker 2: my squad? You say, yes, We're in each other squad.

546
00:29:41,040 --> 00:29:43,080
Speaker 2: So it's the only place really on the phone where

547
00:29:43,120 --> 00:29:46,560
Speaker 2: you can actually cultivate your own group that's not a

548
00:29:46,600 --> 00:29:48,760
Speaker 2: static group. That's why you got all the lurkers to

549
00:29:48,880 --> 00:29:51,640
Speaker 2: do these big WhatsApp group text messages and needs big

550
00:29:51,640 --> 00:29:53,760
Speaker 2: ass ims. I'm like, well, I don't know how people

551
00:29:53,800 --> 00:29:55,640
Speaker 2: in here, so I'm not gonna say nothing. But your

552
00:29:55,720 --> 00:30:00,360
Speaker 2: squad is literally your squad, So between asynchronous messaging.

553
00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:02,960
Speaker 3: That's hey doctor da da da? Hey you know is

554
00:30:03,080 --> 00:30:03,640
Speaker 3: da da da?

555
00:30:03,760 --> 00:30:07,080
Speaker 2: Or it's like fun and easy you know, status updates

556
00:30:07,080 --> 00:30:11,120
Speaker 2: throughout the day. I mean recently launched Squadline, which is

557
00:30:11,320 --> 00:30:16,040
Speaker 2: our synchronous interactive live calling experience. So if I want

558
00:30:16,040 --> 00:30:18,120
Speaker 2: to call you, I drag your face to the bottom

559
00:30:18,120 --> 00:30:20,719
Speaker 2: of the screen. I have to put it in up

560
00:30:20,720 --> 00:30:22,600
Speaker 2: to thirty characters of what the fuck I want to

561
00:30:22,600 --> 00:30:25,520
Speaker 2: talk to you about, Like, you know, this whole concept

562
00:30:25,560 --> 00:30:27,920
Speaker 2: of like calling people about the blue millennials.

563
00:30:27,920 --> 00:30:30,120
Speaker 3: We don't like that too much. And Gen zs are

564
00:30:30,160 --> 00:30:30,640
Speaker 3: even worse.

565
00:30:30,680 --> 00:30:34,680
Speaker 2: So it's like, oh my god, doctor Dom like that guy,

566
00:30:34,680 --> 00:30:35,959
Speaker 2: I tell you we happen at the bar last night

567
00:30:36,040 --> 00:30:38,440
Speaker 2: or whatever the case is, right, and then during the

568
00:30:38,440 --> 00:30:42,120
Speaker 2: call you have these emoji interactions, So you say something funny,

569
00:30:42,160 --> 00:30:43,920
Speaker 2: I respond with the laughing emoji.

570
00:30:44,000 --> 00:30:45,720
Speaker 3: You say something that's like dope.

571
00:30:45,400 --> 00:30:48,360
Speaker 2: I respond with the hunted And so my point is

572
00:30:48,360 --> 00:30:52,160
Speaker 2: that it's a very like fun and interactive experience with

573
00:30:52,240 --> 00:30:54,880
Speaker 2: your close friends. And one of the things that I

574
00:30:54,880 --> 00:30:57,959
Speaker 2: think is, you know, really interesting from a metrics perspective

575
00:30:58,640 --> 00:31:02,719
Speaker 2: is the fact that average apps in the social and

576
00:31:02,840 --> 00:31:06,720
Speaker 2: gaming category, we have this symmetric and tach called D

577
00:31:06,840 --> 00:31:09,920
Speaker 2: twenty eight retention. So it's after twenty eight days of

578
00:31:09,920 --> 00:31:13,040
Speaker 2: a user downloading an app and creating a profile, what

579
00:31:13,160 --> 00:31:16,440
Speaker 2: percentage of users are retained. The average D twenty eight

580
00:31:16,520 --> 00:31:21,239
Speaker 2: retention for apps in our category is fifteen percent so

581
00:31:21,280 --> 00:31:23,400
Speaker 2: that means fifteen percent of users, fifteen out of one

582
00:31:23,440 --> 00:31:26,280
Speaker 2: hundred users that downloaded on day one will still be

583
00:31:26,360 --> 00:31:29,040
Speaker 2: active in the app on day twenty eight. We found

584
00:31:29,080 --> 00:31:34,840
Speaker 2: that are users who download the squad and get only

585
00:31:35,000 --> 00:31:37,960
Speaker 2: three out of twelve people in their squad. Our d

586
00:31:38,080 --> 00:31:42,760
Speaker 2: twenty eight is upwards of sixty percent, So that's literally

587
00:31:42,920 --> 00:31:48,200
Speaker 2: four x the industry average. Yeah, it's like it's crazy.

588
00:31:48,240 --> 00:31:50,200
Speaker 2: I mean, like we worked hard to get that. But

589
00:31:51,640 --> 00:31:54,080
Speaker 2: it tells me that like these people are really fine

590
00:31:54,080 --> 00:31:58,000
Speaker 2: and enjoy like once they actually like start to invest

591
00:31:58,080 --> 00:32:01,800
Speaker 2: in their friendships, invest in those relations, and they have

592
00:32:01,920 --> 00:32:04,200
Speaker 2: fun with it and they stay and it ends up

593
00:32:04,240 --> 00:32:05,400
Speaker 2: being the place.

594
00:32:05,160 --> 00:32:05,760
Speaker 3: On their phone.

595
00:32:05,840 --> 00:32:08,960
Speaker 2: Our yousers tell us where they where. That's where they

596
00:32:08,960 --> 00:32:11,280
Speaker 2: access their friends, and that's the only place, the.

597
00:32:11,280 --> 00:32:12,240
Speaker 3: Only app on their phone.

598
00:32:12,240 --> 00:32:14,320
Speaker 2: They say, they don't need to scream because when you

599
00:32:14,360 --> 00:32:16,360
Speaker 2: got your eye message, you got your webside, you got

600
00:32:16,400 --> 00:32:19,280
Speaker 2: your boss texting me, you got your ex boyfriend texting you,

601
00:32:19,280 --> 00:32:22,120
Speaker 2: you got your grandma texting you, and you're like gods

602
00:32:22,160 --> 00:32:25,240
Speaker 2: to texting you all in the same like five text messages,

603
00:32:25,240 --> 00:32:27,959
Speaker 2: like you know, and so, but having that one place

604
00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:29,920
Speaker 2: where you're like I don't have to scream, because it's

605
00:32:29,960 --> 00:32:32,560
Speaker 2: the people I want to chat with. It's people I

606
00:32:32,680 --> 00:32:35,600
Speaker 2: want to like, you know, hang with. I think this

607
00:32:36,080 --> 00:32:38,760
Speaker 2: the retention metric is just such a powerful metric because

608
00:32:39,200 --> 00:32:42,280
Speaker 2: it's pretty much these days we're all social apps struggle.

609
00:32:41,920 --> 00:32:46,000
Speaker 4: With That is amazing. Congratulations to you and the team

610
00:32:46,120 --> 00:32:51,480
Speaker 4: on that. That is something to celebrate. Now you're so welcome, ISAA.

611
00:32:51,640 --> 00:32:55,920
Speaker 4: You've been so inspiring so far, and we just want

612
00:32:56,000 --> 00:32:57,680
Speaker 4: to take them home with to shift up the energy

613
00:32:57,760 --> 00:32:59,960
Speaker 4: just a little bit, and we're going to enjoy this

614
00:33:00,120 --> 00:33:03,880
Speaker 4: the shift Okay. So because we recognize, appreciate, and celebrate

615
00:33:03,920 --> 00:33:06,800
Speaker 4: the multifaceted woman, and we believe that it's okay to

616
00:33:06,800 --> 00:33:10,720
Speaker 4: be bougie, classy and ratchet. Okay, you can still be

617
00:33:10,800 --> 00:33:13,760
Speaker 4: elegant and dance to strip club music, we want to

618
00:33:13,800 --> 00:33:17,360
Speaker 4: invite you to the OHU Blatchett segment. So do you

619
00:33:17,440 --> 00:33:18,720
Speaker 4: take on the challenge?

620
00:33:19,280 --> 00:33:21,120
Speaker 3: I take on a challenge. In fact, my friends called

621
00:33:21,160 --> 00:33:22,440
Speaker 3: me said this a ratchet.

622
00:33:22,600 --> 00:33:24,320
Speaker 4: Oh so this is this is your segment?

623
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Speaker 5: Right here?

624
00:33:24,840 --> 00:33:25,080
Speaker 4: You are?

625
00:33:25,280 --> 00:33:26,400
Speaker 3: She already ready, y'all?

626
00:33:26,720 --> 00:33:31,000
Speaker 4: She ready? Okay, Okay, So now that you've agreed, we're

627
00:33:31,000 --> 00:33:32,520
Speaker 4: going to tell you what to expect. So we are

628
00:33:32,520 --> 00:33:36,080
Speaker 4: going to share three questions, We're going to share three

629
00:33:36,160 --> 00:33:38,880
Speaker 4: sentence completions, and then we're going to have you choose

630
00:33:38,920 --> 00:33:42,520
Speaker 4: a number one, two, or three, and we want you

631
00:33:42,600 --> 00:33:44,840
Speaker 4: to choose a photo that we have on the big

632
00:33:44,880 --> 00:33:47,400
Speaker 4: screen of you on social media and give us more

633
00:33:47,400 --> 00:33:49,520
Speaker 4: context behind the photok So.

634
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Speaker 1: Doctor John, you want to take it off.

635
00:33:52,720 --> 00:33:58,160
Speaker 3: All right? So what is the best piece of wisdom

636
00:33:58,360 --> 00:34:00,000
Speaker 3: or advice you've ever read?

637
00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:03,400
Speaker 2: Seved I would say it has to be it's applicable

638
00:34:03,400 --> 00:34:06,760
Speaker 2: with me now. But rest is not laziness. I think

639
00:34:06,840 --> 00:34:09,960
Speaker 2: that's so often I used to equate like just resting

640
00:34:10,640 --> 00:34:13,400
Speaker 2: and recharging to like, oh they didn't come lazy.

641
00:34:13,640 --> 00:34:17,239
Speaker 3: Now, rest is investing in you. Yes, I like that.

642
00:34:17,960 --> 00:34:21,600
Speaker 4: We need that own a T shirt? I love that. Okay, Yeah,

643
00:34:22,480 --> 00:34:26,040
Speaker 4: we have four words for you to work or two

644
00:34:26,080 --> 00:34:27,479
Speaker 4: steps work.

645
00:34:27,840 --> 00:34:30,320
Speaker 3: Always there was no thought at all.

646
00:34:30,360 --> 00:34:33,839
Speaker 4: She just said she we love, we love to eat.

647
00:34:33,960 --> 00:34:35,040
Speaker 4: Come on, come on now.

648
00:34:37,000 --> 00:34:41,640
Speaker 3: All right. So as what is the sexiest item that

649
00:34:41,719 --> 00:34:42,200
Speaker 3: you own?

650
00:34:42,640 --> 00:34:47,120
Speaker 2: I would say, there's this blouse looking thing that I

651
00:34:47,200 --> 00:34:49,640
Speaker 2: have that you know, if you're like talking to me

652
00:34:49,719 --> 00:34:52,480
Speaker 2: right here, you're like okay, but it kind of stops

653
00:34:52,560 --> 00:34:55,800
Speaker 2: right under my boom where it's like under boom middrift

654
00:34:56,200 --> 00:34:59,200
Speaker 2: And I wore it out to like dumble House one

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Speaker 2: time and I was like, oh, it's cute, you know.

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Speaker 3: So it's one of those things.

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Speaker 2: Where it's like, oh, like at the top, wait a second,

658
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Speaker 2: like where's the rest of it?

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Speaker 3: So I like to like switch it up, and you know,

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Speaker 3: give people the unexpected.

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Speaker 4: It's a little element of surprise.

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Speaker 1: Okay, we love that.

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Speaker 4: We love that.

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Speaker 3: Now.

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Speaker 4: What is one question or topic you wish people asked

666
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Speaker 4: you about more often?

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00:35:22,000 --> 00:35:24,919
Speaker 2: What I care about in the world. You know, people

668
00:35:25,040 --> 00:35:27,520
Speaker 2: are so focused on, oh my god, how'd you get

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Speaker 2: to this school or how did you do this thing?

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Speaker 2: And you know, or they want to like kind of

671
00:35:30,680 --> 00:35:34,080
Speaker 2: broker a very cerebral connection. But there are so many

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Speaker 2: things that I like, I care about. I think education

673
00:35:36,520 --> 00:35:38,960
Speaker 2: is so important. I think she's just so unappreciated. I

674
00:35:39,000 --> 00:35:42,800
Speaker 2: care so much about criminal justice reform, so much about immigration.

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Speaker 2: You know, I come from a family of immigrants. There's

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Speaker 2: so much I want to do. I don't have the

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Speaker 2: time to do everything I want to do. But I

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00:35:49,160 --> 00:35:51,799
Speaker 2: love talking about that stuff and it's not at all

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Speaker 2: related to anything that I do. But I almost wish

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Speaker 2: people cared about what I cared about as opposed togest

681
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Speaker 2: about what I I do.

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Speaker 5: Then, if you put it out there, what is the

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Speaker 5: one thing that you wish people.

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Speaker 3: Talk about regarding immigration?

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Speaker 2: You know, there's a lot of policy oriented issues with

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Speaker 2: immigration that is really hard for us to like really

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Speaker 2: do anything meaningful about.

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Speaker 3: Right. You know, I'm not Biden, I'm not Congress, et cetera.

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Speaker 2: But as far as you know, certain cultural things, I

690
00:36:37,520 --> 00:36:44,040
Speaker 2: think that Americans can often time not come across as

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Speaker 2: inclusive as I think that we actually want to be,

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Speaker 2: you know, as it pertains to bringing people in, Like

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Speaker 2: my team is a hot pot. I mean, my team

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Speaker 2: is like the United Nations. And one thing that people

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00:36:56,760 --> 00:36:58,960
Speaker 2: on my team say to me asquat, They're like, this

696
00:36:59,080 --> 00:37:00,919
Speaker 2: is the one place I where I feel like I'm

697
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Speaker 2: literally able to show up as myself. I have my accent,

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Speaker 2: or I like my food, or I had. One of

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Speaker 2: my engineers is from Beijing, and after eating his lunch,

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Speaker 2: he naps in his Dutch fal like thirty minutes every day,

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Speaker 2: and I'm like, that's cool, that's what he does, right,

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Speaker 2: And so I think that, you know, there's a lot

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Speaker 2: of cultural nuances, and I think that it's really powerful

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Speaker 2: when people don't feel like they have to assimilate, when

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Speaker 2: they feel like they can just they can still be

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Speaker 2: themselves and be included. Right, I think we can be

707
00:37:34,640 --> 00:37:38,520
Speaker 2: We can celebrate our differences as opposed to saying, hey,

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Speaker 2: I have to sound like this sort of fit in.

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00:37:41,200 --> 00:37:44,000
Speaker 2: No you don't, and so I just I really want,

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Speaker 2: you know, people from all different cultures or all different

711
00:37:46,880 --> 00:37:49,840
Speaker 2: walks of life, quite frankly, to feel empowered to show

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Speaker 2: up as their authentic selves and not feel like they

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Speaker 2: have to fit this One American corporate moved.

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Speaker 4: So good to hear that we definitely need more founders

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Speaker 4: and see like you and I said, we got so

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Speaker 4: excited that we asked two additional questions instead of making

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Speaker 4: the sentence completion. So we're going to do one last

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Speaker 4: sentence completion and this will be. What I love most

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00:38:11,719 --> 00:38:13,000
Speaker 4: about myself is.

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Speaker 3: My heart and my loyalty.

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Speaker 2: Like people will tell you that I have always had

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Speaker 2: such a big heart, you know, And I'm all about

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Speaker 2: how do we leverage our own privileges to empower and

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Speaker 2: bring up others.

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Speaker 3: I've been five days since I was twelve years old,

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00:38:30,600 --> 00:38:31,000
Speaker 3: so I was.

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00:38:31,120 --> 00:38:34,399
Speaker 2: I was tolerant everybody, and the kids who were oftentimes

728
00:38:34,400 --> 00:38:36,920
Speaker 2: smaller who got bullied alive. I would be like, yo,

729
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Speaker 2: walk with me to class, because they're not gonna fuck

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Speaker 2: with you if you walk with me, you know, and

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Speaker 2: or you know even now, you know, let's say, for instance,

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Speaker 2: like I said, celebrate the differences and just acknowledge them.

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Speaker 3: It doesn't have to be a stereotype.

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Speaker 2: A lot of Asian women like come to me to

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00:38:52,080 --> 00:38:54,560
Speaker 2: seek mentorship and they're like, you know, I feel like

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Speaker 2: people are talking over me or you know whatever, and

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00:38:58,120 --> 00:38:59,560
Speaker 2: I people don't talk over me.

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Speaker 3: So I create space at the table for people who

739
00:39:02,520 --> 00:39:03,040
Speaker 3: get talked over.

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00:39:03,120 --> 00:39:07,719
Speaker 2: I'm like, no, no, no, Sis was talking and that like

741
00:39:07,760 --> 00:39:10,399
Speaker 2: we're gonna let her talk and finish her thought. And

742
00:39:10,520 --> 00:39:13,600
Speaker 2: so I think that for me, I have such a

743
00:39:13,640 --> 00:39:18,160
Speaker 2: protecting heart. I'm very loyal to my people. So I

744
00:39:18,200 --> 00:39:20,920
Speaker 2: think that, yeah, that's something I love about me. And

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00:39:21,080 --> 00:39:23,000
Speaker 2: I don't I don't know. I just I have a

746
00:39:23,040 --> 00:39:26,120
Speaker 2: lot of love, and you know, I just I try

747
00:39:26,160 --> 00:39:28,359
Speaker 2: to act and walk in love every day.

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Speaker 3: That's so beautiful.

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Speaker 4: I know, like all hugs now as a we have

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Speaker 4: right group hugs. We have some pictures pulled up with

751
00:39:39,360 --> 00:39:42,040
Speaker 4: you for social media. Okay, so what we want you

752
00:39:42,080 --> 00:39:45,440
Speaker 4: to do is choose a number one to three. The

753
00:39:45,520 --> 00:39:47,840
Speaker 4: choice is yours, and we're gonna show you the pictures

754
00:39:47,840 --> 00:39:50,000
Speaker 4: so you can provide more context. They're from photos too.

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Speaker 3: Well.

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00:39:50,520 --> 00:39:52,920
Speaker 2: I was choose three because three squatter is just that

757
00:39:53,120 --> 00:39:54,120
Speaker 2: good retention number.

758
00:39:54,360 --> 00:39:56,680
Speaker 4: Oh, this is a bad ass picture. This is one

759
00:39:56,719 --> 00:39:58,680
Speaker 4: of my favorites. Okay, we're gonna show with you. Be first,

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00:39:58,880 --> 00:40:01,000
Speaker 4: We're gonna have some people on listening to the audio,

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Speaker 4: So describe the photo and then give us more context.

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Speaker 4: This is such this is one of my favorites. Y'all

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Speaker 4: look at it. Look at this and okay, tell us

764
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Speaker 4: tell them about the photo, and then let's come on.

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Speaker 3: Come on.

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Speaker 2: So this is a photo where I'm taking, Yeah, I'm

767
00:40:17,200 --> 00:40:20,320
Speaker 2: doing a photo shore you're trying to actually get more shots,

768
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Speaker 2: like more business shots. But I have on this white

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Speaker 2: blazer with this kind of semi see through slash mid

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Speaker 2: drift showing.

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Speaker 3: Top was long black pants and some hills and it

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Speaker 3: looks like I'm dancing.

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Speaker 2: It looks like I'm doing a two step actually does Yeah?

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Speaker 4: Is there anything about this photo about the day about

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00:40:42,120 --> 00:40:44,520
Speaker 4: before you took photo anything any more context that we

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00:40:44,520 --> 00:40:46,160
Speaker 4: wouldn't know just by looking at the photo.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, what you wouldn't know by looking at this photo

778
00:40:48,800 --> 00:40:51,360
Speaker 2: is that I was so stiff showing up to that

779
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Speaker 2: photo shoot, and I was like trying to I was like,

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Speaker 2: oh my god, how I get said?

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Speaker 3: And so I just started like dancing. I was like,

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Speaker 3: is she caught that? That's what that? Wow?

783
00:41:02,719 --> 00:41:05,359
Speaker 2: Yeah that was me trying to Like I was like ah,

784
00:41:05,800 --> 00:41:07,680
Speaker 2: and I was like, hey, yay.

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00:41:09,320 --> 00:41:13,080
Speaker 3: Okay, this is so that is so epic.

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Speaker 4: I lovett and the caption says Loading twenty twenty two.

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00:41:16,360 --> 00:41:19,680
Speaker 4: Boss Lady vibes that photo is so bad. I love it.

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00:41:19,920 --> 00:41:21,400
Speaker 4: I'm so glad you chose that photo.

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Speaker 3: I said.

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Speaker 4: We just want to thank you so much for what

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Speaker 4: you're doing in the world, first, what you represent, for

792
00:41:28,360 --> 00:41:31,920
Speaker 4: having this conversation with us. We appreciate you, we value you,

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Speaker 4: we see you. So thank you, thank you, thank you.

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Speaker 3: Thank you for having me. This was fun. This was fun. Kay,

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Speaker 3: glad you enjoyed it. Now all of our listeners they've

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Speaker 3: listened to this dope conversation. They felt your energy. They

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Speaker 3: were like, all right, we want to see we want

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Speaker 3: to see that bad boss photo like we want to see.

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Speaker 3: We want to connect, so we tell our.

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Speaker 2: and at the bottom all my socials are there, so

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Speaker 2: you have my Instagram, my TikTok, fleitter, et cetera. So

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Speaker 3: Will never miss me? I don't have to chase