WEBVTT - Diver Down: The Wonderful World of Narco Subs

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<v Speaker 1>Ridiculous Crime is a production of iHeartRadio.

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<v Speaker 2>Hey Dave Saren Burnett. Yeah, man, I got a note

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<v Speaker 2>here at a headquarters from Elizabeth. It says she's out

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<v Speaker 2>this week. She was apparently called into duty last minute

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<v Speaker 2>something for her secret society. But that's all I know

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<v Speaker 2>about it. So anyway, I guess it's just you and

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<v Speaker 2>me this week. You down, I'm down. Yeah, let's do this.

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<v Speaker 2>I figure we got we got this one right. So

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<v Speaker 2>I gotta ask you, do you know what's ridiculous? What

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<v Speaker 2>is it?

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<v Speaker 3>Why are you putting your hand out? I mean I

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<v Speaker 3>might know what's ridiculous?

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<v Speaker 2>Wait? Is this like the old shoeshine bit where I

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<v Speaker 2>gotta give you, like like a Hamilton a Jackson.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I'm saying Alexander Hamilton might know what's ridiculous?

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<v Speaker 2>All right, I got a Jackson on it. How about

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<v Speaker 2>does Jackson loosen those lips?

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<v Speaker 3>He might know a little bit. I don't know if

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<v Speaker 3>you really know.

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<v Speaker 2>How about a Franklin Franklin loosened them lips?

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<v Speaker 3>Absolutely Franklin knows what's ridiculous? All right, Franklin does it?

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<v Speaker 3>Thank you? Okay, Here's what's ridiculous, lad on man Cold dogs,

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<v Speaker 3>Like have you ever seen a dog coming out of

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<v Speaker 3>the of a lake and it's freezing out and it's

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<v Speaker 3>just like dripping with water and it just it looks

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<v Speaker 3>so sad and it deflated.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, saddest sight there is. I thought you meant

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<v Speaker 2>like the opposite of hot dogs, like there's a new food.

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<v Speaker 2>Because I'm so trained with Elizabeth mashups, I'm like looking

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<v Speaker 2>for the mashup. So no, Dave, what is about a

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<v Speaker 2>cold dog that you find so ridiculous other than the fact, yes,

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<v Speaker 2>they look so sad.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, it's funny you would say that. I mean, because

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<v Speaker 3>those are ridiculous. But another kind of cold dog that's ridiculous.

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<v Speaker 3>Uh huh is the Oscar Meyer cold dog.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my god, you did it.

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<v Speaker 3>The oscar Mere cold dog is a hot dog flavored

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<v Speaker 3>frozen pop and.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh huh, I'm listening. Oh I'm listening.

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<v Speaker 3>It visibly resembles a hot dog topped with mustard and

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<v Speaker 3>has quote smoky umami notes of Oscar Meyer's iconic wiener.

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<v Speaker 2>I can't believe you can I believe you did this

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<v Speaker 2>to me?

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<v Speaker 3>Listen? What can I say?

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<v Speaker 2>You know?

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<v Speaker 3>I really need to embody the roll. I felt like

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<v Speaker 3>it wouldn't be the same if I didn't give you

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<v Speaker 3>back the energy that you expect.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, no, I see you see me, I saw I

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<v Speaker 2>was expecting it. I was looking for it, and I

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<v Speaker 2>still didn't see it coming. Damn.

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<v Speaker 3>So we can skip through the rest. Blah blah blah.

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<v Speaker 3>This came out a year ago. They made these pop shops.

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<v Speaker 3>You could pop up and get them. You can't get

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<v Speaker 3>them anymore. Sorry, rude dudes. But if you have, if

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<v Speaker 3>anyone out there has tried this hot dog flavored popsicle,

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<v Speaker 3>the Colt Dog, let us know, send us a talk back,

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<v Speaker 3>send us an email.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, let them know anyway. Yes, that is ridiculous. You

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<v Speaker 2>got me on that one. I got a hand it

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<v Speaker 2>to you. I got one for you. You got a second.

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<v Speaker 3>Sure, ain't doing nothing else?

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<v Speaker 2>Hey, okay, So how about a crimer who pretends to

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<v Speaker 2>be Pablo Escobar flies to Russia and successfully negotiates by

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<v Speaker 2>a Soviet era nuclear missile submarine. Wow, Dave, that's just

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<v Speaker 2>the tip of this weird iceberg of underwater crime. Today,

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<v Speaker 2>I want to talk about something called Narco subs.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, this is Ridiculous Crime, A podcast about absurd and

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<v Speaker 4>outrageous capers heis and cons it's always ninety nine percent

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<v Speaker 4>murder free and.

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<v Speaker 2>One hundred percent ridiculous. What he said is true, David,

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<v Speaker 2>to set the stage for us today. First up, I

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<v Speaker 2>want to dive into see the pun underwater semi organized crime.

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<v Speaker 3>I see you, I see you.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, we'll get into the cartels in the international

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<v Speaker 2>mafia in a moment, But first, an American crimer with

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<v Speaker 2>a plan. I'd like you to meet. Matthew Piercy. The

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<v Speaker 2>forty four year old was a good family man, a

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<v Speaker 2>church going citizen of Redding, California. I don't know if

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<v Speaker 2>you know where that is. It's just north of my

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<v Speaker 2>old hometown, frank By a couple hours central Valley, but

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<v Speaker 2>north side, like on your way to humbold got it, Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>It's a big into the railroad area, so I got

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<v Speaker 2>a turnaround for a lot of railroads. So anyway, dude,

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<v Speaker 2>Matthew Piercy big in finance. He had a company called

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<v Speaker 2>Family Wealth Legacy, another one called Zola Financial. None of

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<v Speaker 2>that really matters, but that's where he got busy with

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<v Speaker 2>criminal schemes involving wirefraud, mail fraud, and money laundering, a

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<v Speaker 2>classic trifecta anyway. According to the FBI, quote Matthew Pearce,

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<v Speaker 2>he raised at lease approximately thirty five million dollars from

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<v Speaker 2>investors through Family Wealth Legacy, Zola and Funds routed through

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<v Speaker 2>Company three, and paid approximately eight point eight million two investors.

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<v Speaker 2>Of the remaining net investment of approximately twenty six million,

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<v Speaker 2>few if any liquid assets remained to repay investors. In

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<v Speaker 2>other words, this dude conned people out of thirty five

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<v Speaker 2>million dollars. He spent eight point eight million to keep

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<v Speaker 2>the long con Ponzi scheme going, then ultimately liquidated twenty

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<v Speaker 2>six million for himself and his criminal confederates. This is

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<v Speaker 2>all before the FBI caught wind of him. Now that

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<v Speaker 2>bad for a day's work, right, seriously? Now, this guy

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<v Speaker 2>primarily worked over the community. He was a member of

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<v Speaker 2>Never Smart, but that was his choice. He was a

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<v Speaker 2>conning conservative Christian Californians and their families. He had a

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<v Speaker 2>partner in his Ponzi scheme. Of course, he needed somebody

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<v Speaker 2>like this, a sixty seven year old evangelist named Ken Winton.

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<v Speaker 2>On his Facebook page, Winton, he calls himself quote a

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<v Speaker 2>god lover that's with capital G capital l like it's

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<v Speaker 2>a job title.

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<v Speaker 3>What do you do for a living time? The back

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<v Speaker 3>of it, it's like the back of a denim jacket exactly.

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<v Speaker 2>You can see you like on this Yeah, totally big

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<v Speaker 2>patch God lover anyway. Winton he liked to offer up

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<v Speaker 2>empty platitudes about the importance of keeping God in one's life.

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<v Speaker 2>For instance, he once posted on Facebook, God has been

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<v Speaker 2>in the process of reconciling with humanity ever since Adam fell.

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<v Speaker 2>Jesus was never God's Plan B. Now I don't know

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<v Speaker 2>about all that, but I do know like God, Ken

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<v Speaker 2>Winton's Plan B wasn't Jesus either. It wasn't even his

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<v Speaker 2>Plan A. His Plan A was of course crime in

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<v Speaker 2>the name of Jesus. So he got to it, and

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<v Speaker 2>obviously he had Matthew Pearcy with him. The two of them,

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<v Speaker 2>they start working over all these eager believers. They conned

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<v Speaker 2>them to the tune of tens of millions of dollars. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>Ken Winton and Matthew Piercy, they would have gotten away

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<v Speaker 2>with it, David, if it weren't for those pesky agents

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<v Speaker 2>of the FBI. You see, starting back in twenty nineteen,

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<v Speaker 2>FBI agents they began sniffing around Piercy and Winton's Ponzi scheme.

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<v Speaker 2>They began to interview some witnesses, who then let the

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<v Speaker 2>purpose know that FBI agents were asking them questions that

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<v Speaker 2>made them nervous. Now, Piercy, he routed three million dollars

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<v Speaker 2>to a friend's medical business that was the business three

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<v Speaker 2>so the FBI could not seize all of his assets.

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<v Speaker 2>So now that he's secreted away three million dollars, he's

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<v Speaker 2>got his like bug out money. So by twenty twenty

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<v Speaker 2>grand jury subpoenas they go out to the investors in

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<v Speaker 2>Pierc and Winton's businesses. This leads to way more questions,

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<v Speaker 2>pointed questions, the kind of questions that are difficult to

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<v Speaker 2>easily answer. So what does Pierc do next? Well, He's like, well,

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<v Speaker 2>looks like I'm gonna have to get on the old

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<v Speaker 2>email machine. Deck clack clack, clack, clack clack. He starts

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<v Speaker 2>sending out emails to investors to call many of their concerns.

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<v Speaker 2>And the emails, Dave, they said that he was in

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<v Speaker 2>touch with President Trump and that everything was fine. Because

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<v Speaker 2>you know that's a play.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I've tried that before. It didn't really work out.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I got so I got the President on the

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<v Speaker 2>red line, We're we're good, don't worry people. So he

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<v Speaker 2>asked all the investors to reach out to President Trump

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<v Speaker 2>and to you know, let him know that they also

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<v Speaker 2>wanted him to make everything right because you see, there

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<v Speaker 2>was nothing to worry about, because it was all part

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<v Speaker 2>of a bigger plan. Now I have a highlight from

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<v Speaker 2>the email that he sent out to investors, and I

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<v Speaker 2>quote back in January, I compiled some unique perspective research

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<v Speaker 2>about bank safety. The Federal Reserve Board asked the question,

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<v Speaker 2>well would happened to banks if there was a global

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<v Speaker 2>shock event. The unfortunate reality of the recent global financial

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<v Speaker 2>shock has poured rocket fuel on the urgency of this

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<v Speaker 2>critical situation. The only way out is for banks to

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<v Speaker 2>open Zola accounts and stop the bleeding. I've already sent

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<v Speaker 2>this letter to President Trump, and I would encourage you

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<v Speaker 2>to send this to President Trump as well. Here at

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<v Speaker 2>white House dot gov backslash contact Feel free to copy

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<v Speaker 2>paste or drop it in the email. Now, in light

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<v Speaker 2>of our emboldened focus to rescue the banking system, be

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<v Speaker 2>advised I anticipate potential new levels of regulatory scrutiny. If

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<v Speaker 2>you have any connections or contact with government workers, please

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<v Speaker 2>let me know this.

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<v Speaker 3>This kind of reminds me of so I at one

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<v Speaker 3>point set up an email address that was an uninvolved

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<v Speaker 3>third party at gmail dot com. I think I still

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<v Speaker 3>have it. That's great, And I encourage people, like, if

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<v Speaker 3>you have something going on at work and you know

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<v Speaker 3>you want to get someone to step in and help,

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<v Speaker 3>just just copy me, put me in the CC line

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<v Speaker 3>and and I'll jump in and adjudicate for you. And

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<v Speaker 3>I didn't get any takers, but root, dudes, that's still

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<v Speaker 3>available at the service.

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<v Speaker 2>To you to offer the service, you will adjudicate.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, hit me up. I mean the same way this

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<v Speaker 3>guy used President Trump.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, let producer Dave be your President Trump. That's what

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<v Speaker 2>we're saying. Well, now, out of all that stuff in

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<v Speaker 2>the email, this line was my favorite, the last line.

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<v Speaker 2>If you have any connections or contact with government workers,

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<v Speaker 2>please let me know. Like I'm imagining, like people are

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<v Speaker 2>writing back that they have a cousin who works at

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<v Speaker 2>BLM or coming at the Department of Interior. I mean, like,

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<v Speaker 2>what is that going to do anyway? Four days later,

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<v Speaker 2>to further calm down his now panicky and suspicious investors, Piercy.

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<v Speaker 2>He's signed the impact of COVID and the promise of

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<v Speaker 2>a radical executive order by President Trump that was yet

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<v Speaker 2>to be issued, and I quote, as you may recall,

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<v Speaker 2>my firm has been a vocal proponent of an executive

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<v Speaker 2>order from the office of President Donald Trump that would

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<v Speaker 2>compel the big banks to open institutional accounts that offer

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<v Speaker 2>great yield and liquidity. We take the strong and unapologetic

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<v Speaker 2>stance that the COVID nineteen related bank losses can be

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<v Speaker 2>corrected and remedied by this common sense approach, which will

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<v Speaker 2>provide greater liquidity and yield than what the banks are

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<v Speaker 2>currently doing. One of the reasons you received a subpoena

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<v Speaker 2>spelled incorrectly might be because of our firm's bold position

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<v Speaker 2>and philosophy. We do not know why the government shows

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<v Speaker 2>the timing of this COVID nineteen pandemic to add this

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<v Speaker 2>stress of the subpoena to your life. Like what, oh

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<v Speaker 2>my god. He's like, yeah, it's COVID nineteen. We're on

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<v Speaker 2>the line of President Trump. I mean, I don't know

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<v Speaker 2>what's going on. It's these big banks, they're the problem.

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<v Speaker 2>We're trying to get to the bottom of this this

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<v Speaker 2>reason like qan non financial, and.

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<v Speaker 3>It's like sure, because sometimes you get unanticipated subpoenas all

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<v Speaker 3>the time. I'm like, you're mowing your lawn totally. All

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<v Speaker 3>of a sudden your email dings and it's something from

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<v Speaker 3>the Department of Justice.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like, what, I'm not subpoena exactly. You know how

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<v Speaker 2>many subpoenas I got this last week. I actually have

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<v Speaker 2>like a circular file just from all my subpoenas. Now

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<v Speaker 2>the gist of his pitch to his marks, I'm sorry investors,

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<v Speaker 2>was that twenty twenty progressed? You remember it? It just

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<v Speaker 2>kept getting weirder and weirder, and it got more grim

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<v Speaker 2>and more dire. And by all that, I mean for

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<v Speaker 2>these investors in their money. But November comes around, FBI,

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<v Speaker 2>the Justice Department, They're ready to pounce. They're ready to

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<v Speaker 2>stop the financial bleeding. However, Piercy was also ready for

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<v Speaker 2>the FBI. So, according to the FBI's arrest complaint quote,

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<v Speaker 2>when FBI agents attempted to arrest Piercy in Reading this morning,

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<v Speaker 2>he fled by car. First, he led law enforcement on

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<v Speaker 2>a vehicle chase that went off road twice in residential neighborhoods,

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<v Speaker 2>including next to an apartment complex, and then later onto

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<v Speaker 2>Interstate five northbound. Law enforcement tracked Peercy's vehicle from the

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<v Speaker 2>air during the chase. Then Piercy abandoned his truck near

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<v Speaker 2>the edge of Lake Shasta, pulled something out of it.

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<v Speaker 2>Nowday him going to pause for a second. What do

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<v Speaker 2>you think he pulled out of his truck? I mean

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<v Speaker 2>a AK forty seven. It's a good guess it is America.

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<v Speaker 2>But no, in this case, he went full on poor

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<v Speaker 2>Man's James Bond. He pulled out his own personal submarine

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<v Speaker 2>submersible device. What yes, reading rural people, I thought I

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<v Speaker 2>told you about this up Central Valley. They just have

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<v Speaker 2>trucks and you know, personal submersible devices for Lake Shasta.

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<v Speaker 2>So he runs into Lake Shasta and he tempts to

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<v Speaker 2>disappear under the water surface with his poor man James Bond.

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<v Speaker 2>Now back to the FBI, I rest complaint pierced.

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<v Speaker 3>Wait wait wait wait wait wait what are they using

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<v Speaker 3>personal submersible devices for other than escaping the cops?

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<v Speaker 5>Oh?

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<v Speaker 2>Who like criminals? Are the cops? Or who are we

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<v Speaker 2>talking about?

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<v Speaker 3>The week this region of the country, in the Lake

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<v Speaker 3>Shasta boah.

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<v Speaker 2>I just mean, you know, coming from these areas, this

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<v Speaker 2>is the land of like you know, seedews and jet

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<v Speaker 2>skis and people just having random boats on small lakes.

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<v Speaker 2>What do I mean is you'll just be surprised what

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<v Speaker 2>your friends may have in their garage. You're like, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>you have your own submersible device. Of course you do.

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<v Speaker 3>Why not? Fair enough fall, But I'm imagining he's got it.

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<v Speaker 3>It's like a suitcase. Yeah, is like pull it out,

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<v Speaker 3>press a button and it turns into a submarine.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's like an Iron Man device. It just springs out. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>Like I had friends who had four wheel golf carts, Like,

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<v Speaker 2>why do you need a four wheel golf cart that

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<v Speaker 2>sprayed camouflage?

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<v Speaker 3>Because David seeing in rural Rhode Island, I mean, we've

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<v Speaker 3>got you know, coastline and lakes. I just it was

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<v Speaker 3>just a lot of Skiffs's a lot of skiffs, a

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<v Speaker 3>lot of john boats.

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<v Speaker 2>As you say, yeah, you know we had john boats

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<v Speaker 2>and that's usually for fishing. But if you're like, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>a young man or a you know, criminal on the run,

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<v Speaker 2>you always want to have like a seedoo, a jet ski,

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<v Speaker 2>or you know, a personal submersible device. So anyway, back

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<v Speaker 2>to the FBI rest complaint quote, Piercy spent some time

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<v Speaker 2>out of sight underwater. So this is like his escape

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<v Speaker 2>plane is working, he slips under the water surface, and

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<v Speaker 2>he's down there for some time out of sight underwater.

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<v Speaker 2>How long was some time, David try?

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<v Speaker 3>I think it had like it like it came with

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<v Speaker 3>a straw and so like it was just a really

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<v Speaker 3>long straw and some bubbles or coming up at the top.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he's got like a snorkel, but the snorkels made

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<v Speaker 2>out of bamboo because he didn't afford the good rubber one.

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<v Speaker 2>So dude's down there for twenty five minutes. Now, you see,

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<v Speaker 2>he had not made a perfect escape, because Piercy was

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<v Speaker 2>bedeviled by the nature of the human need for oxygen.

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<v Speaker 2>Not only did it limit his range of his escape,

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<v Speaker 2>but it also left a trail for the authorities to follow. See,

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<v Speaker 2>while Piercey was zooming along underwater with his personal submersible device,

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<v Speaker 2>according to the FBI quote, law enforcement could see bubbles.

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<v Speaker 2>So they just follow this bubble track right across Lake Shasta,

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<v Speaker 2>and the cops and the Feds they watched their putterer's

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<v Speaker 2>way across the lake and then they wait for this

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<v Speaker 2>dufist to surface, and when he eventually surfaces on the

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<v Speaker 2>other side, he walks out of Lake Shasta and they're

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<v Speaker 2>just waiting for him, and he walks right into the

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<v Speaker 2>waiting arms of law enforcement. Now, Dave, you're you're curious,

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<v Speaker 2>like Elizabeth, you may be wondering, what's this cat's personal

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<v Speaker 2>submarine look like?

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<v Speaker 3>You know, like Sar Jared, what's this cat's personal submarine

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<v Speaker 3>look like?

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<v Speaker 2>Great question, Dave. Well, for one, it wasn't a sleek too.

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<v Speaker 2>Remember I said earlier this it was a yeah, he

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<v Speaker 2>pulled a poor man's James Bond. Well, this is what

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<v Speaker 2>he used. The Yama three point fifty l I underwater

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<v Speaker 2>submersible device, which looks.

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<v Speaker 3>Like this, oh like at Kawasaki Ninja.

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<v Speaker 2>Basically it's a joke. It looks like a lawn mower

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<v Speaker 2>or like a lawn blower, but you took the big

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<v Speaker 2>front tube off and you're just gonna push air like.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't even know how this thing. I mean, yes,

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<v Speaker 2>it creates some thrust and then you there's two handles

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<v Speaker 2>on the side and you hold onto it and it

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<v Speaker 2>pulls you forward in the water. Now, when I say

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<v Speaker 2>pulls you. It's like at four miles an hour.

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<v Speaker 3>So it's like that that that hovercraft that's in the

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<v Speaker 3>back of comic book magazines where you got to add

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<v Speaker 3>the vacuum cleaner. Yeah, and it just like exits on

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<v Speaker 3>top of the vacuum cleaner. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>But technically this is considered a sea scooter. Now, I

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<v Speaker 2>didn't call it a sea scooter because that's misleading. There's

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<v Speaker 2>no seat, like I think sea scooter. I'm thinking there's

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<v Speaker 2>a seat. But apparently sea scooters aka diver propulsion vehicles

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<v Speaker 2>are designed to be used underwater as a navigation device.

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<v Speaker 2>They can pull a person around right, so ideally the

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<v Speaker 2>person is wearing scuba gear and is out of fitted

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<v Speaker 2>with breathing apparatus so they can stand water and they

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<v Speaker 2>don't leave a trail of bubbles. Well, the sea scooter

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<v Speaker 2>it had first word into popular imagination and the underwater

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<v Speaker 2>battle scene and the James bondflick Thunderball from nineteen sixty five.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not sure if you remember it, but there's this

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<v Speaker 2>whole underwater battle scene that's the first time people see it.

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<v Speaker 2>They go, oh my God, that's so cool. Criminals same thing.

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<v Speaker 2>They're like, oh my God, that's so cool. They also

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<v Speaker 2>another group that liked it, militaries around the world. They

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<v Speaker 2>often have these that they used. Right, So Piercy's plan

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<v Speaker 2>is to be like the military, but he's like, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>a criminals, so I'm gonna do it my way. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>gonna zip away from the FBI, aided by my underwater

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<v Speaker 2>sea scooter going three point seven miles per hour. Anyway,

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<v Speaker 2>he gets out of the lake and his by the

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<v Speaker 2>way he went into the lake and street clothes. So

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<v Speaker 2>he gets out in his wet levis and he's standing

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<v Speaker 2>there and the CHP and the FBI agents. They're like, hey,

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<v Speaker 2>your wife sent some dry clothes. Would you like to

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<v Speaker 2>put these on. He's like, thank you, guys. She's so thoughtful.

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<v Speaker 2>And then they like took them over to the EMTs

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<v Speaker 2>and they checked his vitals. He was cleared, deemed meadically fine.

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<v Speaker 2>They rush them down the hill to Sacramento. They're like, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>we're gonna take you down the FBI local field office.

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<v Speaker 2>He's like okay. Now he gets formally arrested, and now

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<v Speaker 2>the dude is facing twenty years in federal prison. That's

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<v Speaker 2>how much money he was stealing.

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<v Speaker 3>So this was got a theory. Hold on, I've got

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<v Speaker 3>a theory ast to how they really caught him. How

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<v Speaker 3>it wasn't the trail of bubbles. It was the flop sweat.

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<v Speaker 3>I think they trained the police dogs to swim underwater

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<v Speaker 3>follow the flop sweat, and eventually they just went up

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<v Speaker 3>and like nipped him in the button just a little bit.

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<v Speaker 2>Totally. They didn't want to put that part of the

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<v Speaker 2>dog's biting him. We could get sued, so let's cut

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<v Speaker 2>that out of the story.

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<v Speaker 3>I like that theory.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, when we're let's take a little break, Dave, and

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<v Speaker 2>then we'll be back. I'll get into international drug smuggling

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<v Speaker 2>and the big boys who used actual submarines. Things were

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<v Speaker 2>about to get wet and wild back in two and two.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, day, we're back.

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<v Speaker 3>We are back.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm limbered up. I'm ready for another one. Good, you're

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<v Speaker 2>all stretched, you're ready. Okay, this one is gonna ask

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of you. You're a lot of mental calisthetics. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>imagine drug running at a submarine in Detroit.

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<v Speaker 3>Submarine in Detroit. Yeah, I guess we're talking.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, So this is are word starting to conjure up

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<v Speaker 2>a magic for the imagination because just wait, Dave, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>gonna get further into it. I want first, I want

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<v Speaker 2>you to meet Glenn Mousseau, forty nine year old of Windsor, Michigan.

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<v Speaker 3>Glenn.

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<v Speaker 2>No, Glenn is a professional international drug smuggler, a Monday launderer,

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<v Speaker 2>and an all around good time guy. No, the last part,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm just kidding. I don't know. I've never met the guy.

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<v Speaker 2>He just seems like fun as at least as a crimer.

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<v Speaker 2>Because over his thirty two years as a criminal, Glenn

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<v Speaker 2>Mussou has racked up forty seven convictions. Let's give a

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<v Speaker 2>hand to Glenn.

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<v Speaker 3>That may end up getting a purpie at the end

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<v Speaker 3>of the year. Like, that's a lot of convictions.

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<v Speaker 2>The guys stayed busy, you know, and he is just

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<v Speaker 2>not good at crime, but he keeps trying, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>practice practice, practice apparently with Glenn Musseau. Anyway, his primary

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<v Speaker 2>place of business the Detroit River. Yes, that's where he

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<v Speaker 2>liked to zip loads of pot and money back and

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<v Speaker 2>forth across the US Canada border along that wet edge

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<v Speaker 2>between the two nations. Now, his loads were typically pot,

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<v Speaker 2>sometimes cocaine, sometimes methamphetamines. He would river pirate his contraband

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<v Speaker 2>across the border. But Mussau wasn't fond of boats like

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<v Speaker 2>the pirates of old, so he didn't cott into yachts

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<v Speaker 2>or sailboats, no, sir, not Glen Mussoe. No, he would

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<v Speaker 2>glide under the water's surface and slice across the darkened

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<v Speaker 2>depths of the Detroit River in a submersible. Now this

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<v Speaker 2>wasn't always his mom because back in nineteen ninety five

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<v Speaker 2>he was deported from the US back to Canada. But

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<v Speaker 2>the crafty knock he snuck back over the porest not

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<v Speaker 2>nearly as militarized northern border. Now back in America, he

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<v Speaker 2>gets back to doing crime. Finally. On May tenth, twenty twenty,

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<v Speaker 2>Glen Mussou he was behind the wheel of a U

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<v Speaker 2>haul truck. He was in place called China Township in Michigan.

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<v Speaker 2>I've never been there, but sounds fun anyway. The officers

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<v Speaker 2>who pulled up behind him, they were from Saint Clair's

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<v Speaker 2>County Sheriff's office, and they were mad suspicious of this

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<v Speaker 2>man in the U haul who seemed shady as all hell.

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<v Speaker 3>Generally a good guess that's someone, Yeah, dude in a

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<v Speaker 3>U haul who looks shady is shady exactly.

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<v Speaker 2>It's pretty much a guarantee. It's one of those things

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<v Speaker 2>like if you go to like a weird mattress store

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<v Speaker 2>and you're like, these people seem shady, they are shady. Now.

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<v Speaker 2>The suspicions were warranted when the deputies found a large

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<v Speaker 2>plastic bag in the trunk and Mussou said he didn't

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<v Speaker 2>know whose bag it was or where the bag had

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<v Speaker 2>even come from. The deputies were like, yeah, okay, buddy,

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<v Speaker 2>Now why were they so doubtful because inside the bag

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<v Speaker 2>was ninety seven thousand dollars. Now, normally people know where

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<v Speaker 2>ninety seven thousand dollars came from or that it's in

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<v Speaker 2>the truck with them.

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<v Speaker 3>He was like, no, I don't know what is Gosh, officer,

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<v Speaker 3>if I had known, I would have been spending this money.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Mosa's like, oh, would you look at this. It

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<v Speaker 2>seems like a lot of money. Offices Now, the Michigan

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<v Speaker 2>deputies they promptly arrest Mussou. He gets booked at Saint

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<v Speaker 2>Clair County Jail. Once in custody, officers actually asking Mussau

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<v Speaker 2>about the rented U haul truck with the large plastic

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<v Speaker 2>bag with the ninety seven thousand, he'd never seen and

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<v Speaker 2>had no idea how it got there or even whose

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<v Speaker 2>money it was. New Mussau, he still did not have

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<v Speaker 2>any good answers for the cops, so they just kept

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<v Speaker 2>pestering him with question after question. I don't know what happened.

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<v Speaker 2>I guess he got tired, because eventually he did cough

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<v Speaker 2>up some of the truth. So Mussau tells the deputies, Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>I do know where the money has come from. Turns

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<v Speaker 2>out it just came back from Okay, let I'll tell

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<v Speaker 2>you this. I am a drug smuggler. I am a

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<v Speaker 2>Monday lunderer. And they're like, wait, wait, wait, wait, are

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<v Speaker 2>you just saying all these I guess I smuggled cash

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<v Speaker 2>in enough of your country. And they're like, it's like,

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<v Speaker 2>I must have slipped my mind. I don't know when

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<v Speaker 2>you were asking me. I get to nervous cops, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>They're like, okay.

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<v Speaker 3>But we'll have a lot of jobs. This is just

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<v Speaker 3>one of many jobs.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean this is my night time job. I

0:20:38.040 --> 0:20:40.040
<v Speaker 2>thought you met my daytime job. So he suddenly he

0:20:40.119 --> 0:20:42.240
<v Speaker 2>recalls how he was trying to smuggle the money back

0:20:42.280 --> 0:20:44.040
<v Speaker 2>into Canada and he was looking for a place to

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<v Speaker 2>cross the border with his U haul truck with the

0:20:46.240 --> 0:20:48.960
<v Speaker 2>ninety seven thousand in it. Now, Homeland Security gets called

0:20:48.960 --> 0:20:51.200
<v Speaker 2>in because it's a border violation. Then he tried to

0:20:51.240 --> 0:20:54.040
<v Speaker 2>interview Musso, and his story gets more and more outsized

0:20:54.080 --> 0:20:56.800
<v Speaker 2>as he goes. According to the court documents I checked out,

0:20:56.920 --> 0:21:00.040
<v Speaker 2>Mussau quote explain that he runs a smuggling company and

0:21:00.119 --> 0:21:03.520
<v Speaker 2>he's serving three criminal organizations in the United States. In Canada,

0:21:03.880 --> 0:21:06.200
<v Speaker 2>He's like, I am the import to EXPORTO what you

0:21:06.240 --> 0:21:08.440
<v Speaker 2>know I do contracts. Now, the money in the U

0:21:08.520 --> 0:21:10.720
<v Speaker 2>haul that was payment for one hundred pounds of pot

0:21:10.760 --> 0:21:12.880
<v Speaker 2>that had been paid for already, and he was smuggling

0:21:12.960 --> 0:21:16.399
<v Speaker 2>the cash into Canada for the exchange. So the agents

0:21:16.440 --> 0:21:18.680
<v Speaker 2>at this point they're struck by Mussou's candor. They're like,

0:21:18.800 --> 0:21:21.720
<v Speaker 2>this guy's awesome. He's just telling us everything. So they

0:21:21.760 --> 0:21:23.640
<v Speaker 2>ask him, how are you getting the drugs into the US.

0:21:23.680 --> 0:21:25.640
<v Speaker 2>You want to, like tell us how your operation works.

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<v Speaker 2>So what do you think he tells him, Dave. Do

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<v Speaker 2>you think he tells him the truth?

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<v Speaker 5>No?

0:21:28.680 --> 0:21:31.000
<v Speaker 3>I don't think so. And I mean, like, I know,

0:21:31.440 --> 0:21:34.000
<v Speaker 3>you know, laws of supply and demand and everything, but

0:21:34.160 --> 0:21:36.720
<v Speaker 3>I'm kind of surprised that someone feels the need to

0:21:37.240 --> 0:21:39.920
<v Speaker 3>smuggle pot into the US, like we got plenty.

0:21:40.040 --> 0:21:40.240
<v Speaker 5>Dude.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I guess apparently in the Midwest, Canadian pot is

0:21:43.560 --> 0:21:45.600
<v Speaker 2>the thing. So I'm California. I don't know about Canadian

0:21:45.640 --> 0:21:47.040
<v Speaker 2>pot me Like, I've heard about it. I know that

0:21:47.119 --> 0:21:48.960
<v Speaker 2>it exists, but I mean, like, it's not a thing

0:21:49.040 --> 0:21:51.240
<v Speaker 2>that we're like, oh, it's that good BC bud or whatever.

0:21:51.560 --> 0:21:53.720
<v Speaker 2>But I know people like in like Indiana and Illinois,

0:21:53.760 --> 0:21:56.960
<v Speaker 2>they would tell me about different Canadian strains. I was like, oh, okay,

0:21:57.080 --> 0:22:00.560
<v Speaker 2>that's your guys, is like humboled Okay cool. So anyway,

0:22:01.600 --> 0:22:04.639
<v Speaker 2>did he tell them the truth? The answer is kind

0:22:04.720 --> 0:22:07.159
<v Speaker 2>of he likes to always tell half truth. So he

0:22:07.280 --> 0:22:10.760
<v Speaker 2>tells the Homeland Security agents that the drugs and the

0:22:10.840 --> 0:22:13.399
<v Speaker 2>money either one. They would be wrapped super tightly and

0:22:13.480 --> 0:22:16.240
<v Speaker 2>then so that they were airtight and also that means

0:22:16.280 --> 0:22:18.959
<v Speaker 2>they were waterproof. So then he would pilot him submersible

0:22:19.240 --> 0:22:22.359
<v Speaker 2>called a sea Bob across the Detroit River with the

0:22:22.480 --> 0:22:26.080
<v Speaker 2>waterproof contraband in tow. Now, Dave, the sea Bob is

0:22:26.200 --> 0:22:28.639
<v Speaker 2>no sea scooter like the one I showed you before.

0:22:29.119 --> 0:22:32.240
<v Speaker 2>Now this is not like piercing his pathetic like Shasta escape. No,

0:22:32.520 --> 0:22:35.800
<v Speaker 2>the sea bob. This is a luxury submersible, just like

0:22:35.840 --> 0:22:37.720
<v Speaker 2>imagine he's slapping the hood of a sea bob like

0:22:37.720 --> 0:22:39.879
<v Speaker 2>I'm a car salesman. This bad boy will get the

0:22:39.960 --> 0:22:42.000
<v Speaker 2>job done for your average smuggler looking to move a

0:22:42.040 --> 0:22:44.479
<v Speaker 2>heavyload of contraband, my friend, what will take to get

0:22:44.520 --> 0:22:47.359
<v Speaker 2>you in a sea bub today? Now this sea bob,

0:22:47.440 --> 0:22:51.200
<v Speaker 2>it's like a sea sled. The diver lies down, they

0:22:51.359 --> 0:22:54.120
<v Speaker 2>hold it and the twin engines power the sea Bob. Dave,

0:22:54.240 --> 0:22:54.960
<v Speaker 2>it looks like this.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, see this is what I picture because there was

0:22:59.720 --> 0:23:02.119
<v Speaker 3>one of the Gi Joe guys. Huh, this was his

0:23:02.200 --> 0:23:05.080
<v Speaker 3>whole thing was like and as a kid, you wanted that.

0:23:05.280 --> 0:23:06.800
<v Speaker 3>You didn't really care about the action figure, but you

0:23:06.840 --> 0:23:09.800
<v Speaker 3>wanted that thing. Yes, exactly, this is totally action like

0:23:10.480 --> 0:23:11.399
<v Speaker 3>action kid dreams.

0:23:11.440 --> 0:23:12.919
<v Speaker 2>You're like, oh, I'll be hanging onto that and I'll

0:23:12.960 --> 0:23:14.840
<v Speaker 2>zip along and nobody can catch me. I mean it

0:23:15.000 --> 0:23:17.159
<v Speaker 2>looks like it looks like something tourists would use in

0:23:17.200 --> 0:23:19.399
<v Speaker 2>the Caribbean or Hawaii, and somehe was like, Oh, I

0:23:19.440 --> 0:23:21.840
<v Speaker 2>want to be toodling along looking at the beauty or

0:23:22.200 --> 0:23:25.280
<v Speaker 2>you know, moving one hundred pounds of pot across the border,

0:23:25.720 --> 0:23:27.639
<v Speaker 2>so our man in the sea bob moves. So he

0:23:27.800 --> 0:23:30.800
<v Speaker 2>told Homeland Security all about how he would waterproof a

0:23:30.880 --> 0:23:32.840
<v Speaker 2>load and then he'd hop on his sea bob and

0:23:32.880 --> 0:23:35.320
<v Speaker 2>he'd take his luxury sea toy for a glide across

0:23:35.359 --> 0:23:38.359
<v Speaker 2>the Detroit River. And in fact, he bragged that his

0:23:38.440 --> 0:23:41.479
<v Speaker 2>smuggling outfit had three sea bobs. He's like, hey, man,

0:23:41.480 --> 0:23:44.600
<v Speaker 2>I really an adventure resort over here. Now, facing who

0:23:44.720 --> 0:23:47.280
<v Speaker 2>knows how many years behind bars, Mussou told the Homeland

0:23:47.320 --> 0:23:50.080
<v Speaker 2>Security agents eventually all that he knew heaus he claimed

0:23:50.119 --> 0:23:51.880
<v Speaker 2>to tell them all that he knew he In fact,

0:23:51.960 --> 0:23:54.800
<v Speaker 2>he informed the FEDS that he was down to cooperate

0:23:54.920 --> 0:23:57.240
<v Speaker 2>with them. For instance, he told them about a big

0:23:57.440 --> 0:23:59.800
<v Speaker 2>meth shipment that he had scheduled for the next day,

0:24:00.000 --> 0:24:01.399
<v Speaker 2>and he said, if you guys want to pop in,

0:24:02.000 --> 0:24:03.959
<v Speaker 2>I could arrange that's for you. You know, you can

0:24:04.040 --> 0:24:07.120
<v Speaker 2>meet some more from my organization. So the FEDS are like, oh, okay.

0:24:07.200 --> 0:24:08.920
<v Speaker 2>It's like, well, you'll need to make up your minds quickly.

0:24:09.000 --> 0:24:10.879
<v Speaker 2>It's tomorrow. So the FEDS are like, okay, let's think

0:24:10.880 --> 0:24:12.680
<v Speaker 2>about it. They talk to their bosses or whatever. The

0:24:12.760 --> 0:24:17.080
<v Speaker 2>FEDS are like, it's a go. So the they release Muso, right,

0:24:17.160 --> 0:24:19.239
<v Speaker 2>but first before they get ready to do that, they're like, well,

0:24:19.480 --> 0:24:21.199
<v Speaker 2>we need to see your cell phones, right, So they

0:24:21.280 --> 0:24:22.560
<v Speaker 2>kind of want to tag his stuff and they want

0:24:22.600 --> 0:24:24.400
<v Speaker 2>to see what he has. So he agrees, he lets

0:24:24.440 --> 0:24:26.680
<v Speaker 2>them search his two cell phones. The Feds they crack

0:24:26.760 --> 0:24:28.760
<v Speaker 2>open his cell phones and they read all that their

0:24:28.800 --> 0:24:32.200
<v Speaker 2>eyes can behold. They found texts, exchanges, chats between criminal confederates,

0:24:32.320 --> 0:24:36.040
<v Speaker 2>GPS coordinates. They're writing all of this down planned drug exchanges.

0:24:36.280 --> 0:24:39.080
<v Speaker 2>There's also discussion of making a drone submarine that could

0:24:39.080 --> 0:24:41.240
<v Speaker 2>attach to the bottom of an ocean going ship and

0:24:41.280 --> 0:24:44.040
<v Speaker 2>take a ride to Europe where smugglers, but then dislodge

0:24:44.080 --> 0:24:45.920
<v Speaker 2>it and collect the coke that was inside.

0:24:46.480 --> 0:24:46.920
<v Speaker 3>I love it.

0:24:47.080 --> 0:24:49.280
<v Speaker 2>Right, this phone was a wealth of information for the FEDS.

0:24:49.320 --> 0:24:51.160
<v Speaker 2>They're like, I didn't even know about this. This is amazing.

0:24:51.200 --> 0:24:52.840
<v Speaker 2>Thanks the story. He's like, oh, on the problem, I

0:24:53.000 --> 0:24:55.480
<v Speaker 2>tell you. We have partners now, right, So they're like, okay, Musso,

0:24:55.520 --> 0:24:57.840
<v Speaker 2>we're gonna cut you loose, go make that meth deal.

0:24:57.880 --> 0:24:59.399
<v Speaker 2>Call us in the morning and we'll be there for

0:24:59.440 --> 0:25:02.080
<v Speaker 2>the raid. Right. Who's like, oh, well, yes, of course,

0:25:02.640 --> 0:25:05.320
<v Speaker 2>so he cuts this deal. They release him, he goes

0:25:05.400 --> 0:25:08.080
<v Speaker 2>to make a scheduled meth deal. And that is what

0:25:08.359 --> 0:25:11.720
<v Speaker 2>we in the storytelling industry, David, we call a bonehead decision.

0:25:11.880 --> 0:25:15.240
<v Speaker 2>Because Musseau was released and checked into a local hotel,

0:25:15.320 --> 0:25:18.040
<v Speaker 2>but there was no meth deal the next day. That

0:25:18.400 --> 0:25:21.200
<v Speaker 2>was what we call a I Now he was in

0:25:21.400 --> 0:25:24.200
<v Speaker 2>the Beymont Hotel in Flat Rock, Michigan. The desk clerk

0:25:24.320 --> 0:25:27.240
<v Speaker 2>remembered him well. Apparently he made a memorable impression. The

0:25:27.280 --> 0:25:29.840
<v Speaker 2>desk clerk later with tell authorities that Mussau said he

0:25:29.960 --> 0:25:31.359
<v Speaker 2>was going to dip out for a bit because he

0:25:31.400 --> 0:25:33.800
<v Speaker 2>needed to attend a family funeral. That was his plans

0:25:33.840 --> 0:25:38.200
<v Speaker 2>to cover Skipping town. So around three am, security cambridge

0:25:38.200 --> 0:25:40.520
<v Speaker 2>footage from the hotel shows Mussau walk out of the

0:25:40.600 --> 0:25:42.520
<v Speaker 2>hotel and then once he's free at the hotel that

0:25:42.680 --> 0:25:44.760
<v Speaker 2>three hours later, around six am, he phones the front

0:25:44.800 --> 0:25:47.159
<v Speaker 2>desk and he says, oh, yes, I talked to you earlier.

0:25:47.440 --> 0:25:49.680
<v Speaker 2>Well I have I've left suddenly. As I told you,

0:25:50.000 --> 0:25:52.480
<v Speaker 2>I'd like you to go and get off of my

0:25:52.560 --> 0:25:54.760
<v Speaker 2>belongings in my room. Gather them up, pack them up,

0:25:54.760 --> 0:25:56.760
<v Speaker 2>and I will send somebody over to pick them up later.

0:25:56.960 --> 0:25:58.920
<v Speaker 2>They're like yeah, yeah, sure, no problem. They make a note.

0:25:59.160 --> 0:26:02.399
<v Speaker 2>Later that same Homeland Security they show up looking for

0:26:02.520 --> 0:26:04.560
<v Speaker 2>Musso they're like, hey, where's the guy in like whatever

0:26:04.640 --> 0:26:06.480
<v Speaker 2>three seventeen. They're like, oh, he checked out. What do

0:26:06.480 --> 0:26:08.040
<v Speaker 2>you mean he checked out? They're like, oh, you know,

0:26:08.240 --> 0:26:10.160
<v Speaker 2>be his room. So they're like, well, did he leave anything.

0:26:10.200 --> 0:26:12.440
<v Speaker 2>They're like, oh, yeah, he abandoned it. So they consider

0:26:12.560 --> 0:26:14.560
<v Speaker 2>I don't know if the note wasn't passed. The hotel

0:26:14.640 --> 0:26:17.440
<v Speaker 2>decides that since he left his stuff, it's been abandoned

0:26:17.480 --> 0:26:19.040
<v Speaker 2>and they handed over to Homeland Security.

0:26:19.359 --> 0:26:22.119
<v Speaker 3>Or they're just like nope, I read that. I'm not

0:26:22.240 --> 0:26:22.480
<v Speaker 3>doing it.

0:26:22.600 --> 0:26:26.119
<v Speaker 2>Yeah exactly. I think that is probably more accurate. Hotel

0:26:26.160 --> 0:26:28.840
<v Speaker 2>Sef's like, I'm not getting involved. That's his Homeland Security buddy,

0:26:28.920 --> 0:26:32.080
<v Speaker 2>so sorry, we're a little motel. So in his belongings

0:26:32.119 --> 0:26:34.960
<v Speaker 2>the Homeland Security agents they find five more cell phones

0:26:35.400 --> 0:26:37.560
<v Speaker 2>and he had a hole make a new identity kit.

0:26:38.080 --> 0:26:41.159
<v Speaker 2>In this it consisted of a stolen Canadian passport, an

0:26:41.240 --> 0:26:45.320
<v Speaker 2>Ontario temporary driver's license, and a Burth certificate. There was

0:26:45.440 --> 0:26:48.400
<v Speaker 2>also a dry suit that's like a like a suit

0:26:48.440 --> 0:26:51.560
<v Speaker 2>for diving. It's like a wetsuit, but instead the body

0:26:51.640 --> 0:26:53.840
<v Speaker 2>is designed to stay dry, as opposed to a wetsuit

0:26:53.840 --> 0:26:55.160
<v Speaker 2>where the bodies designed to get wet.

0:26:55.280 --> 0:26:57.960
<v Speaker 3>Right, can I just instead pretend that it's a suit

0:26:58.080 --> 0:26:59.680
<v Speaker 3>so that if you have a lot of flop sweat,

0:27:00.160 --> 0:27:01.879
<v Speaker 3>just wix it off of you. So if you're going

0:27:01.960 --> 0:27:05.280
<v Speaker 3>to you doing crimes, you're not uncomfortable exactly your super

0:27:05.359 --> 0:27:05.800
<v Speaker 3>dry suit.

0:27:06.160 --> 0:27:08.000
<v Speaker 2>I like that idea. I need to get a tailor.

0:27:08.200 --> 0:27:11.200
<v Speaker 2>So anyway, he Musseau. He had left his new fake

0:27:11.280 --> 0:27:13.840
<v Speaker 2>identity behind, right, so what's he gonna do now? He

0:27:13.960 --> 0:27:16.240
<v Speaker 2>still needs to cross the border to get back into Canada.

0:27:16.320 --> 0:27:19.359
<v Speaker 2>He can't do it semi legitimately now, so he's like, oh,

0:27:19.720 --> 0:27:23.000
<v Speaker 2>I know the way. On June fifth, at around two

0:27:23.160 --> 0:27:25.400
<v Speaker 2>thirty five in the morning, agents from the US Border

0:27:25.440 --> 0:27:29.399
<v Speaker 2>Patrol they spot this suspicious vessel in international boundary waters.

0:27:29.800 --> 0:27:32.880
<v Speaker 2>It's a high speed boat making a high speed late

0:27:33.000 --> 0:27:35.800
<v Speaker 2>night crossing. Right now, they know this is not just

0:27:35.880 --> 0:27:39.200
<v Speaker 2>some normal pleasure seekers out just like zipping along in

0:27:39.240 --> 0:27:41.480
<v Speaker 2>their donzie. They're like, no, no, this has to be

0:27:41.560 --> 0:27:43.760
<v Speaker 2>crimers making a run for it. So the border patrols

0:27:43.840 --> 0:27:47.080
<v Speaker 2>give chase. They attempt a high speed boat chase right

0:27:47.440 --> 0:27:49.880
<v Speaker 2>on the Detroit River. The Border Patrol agents they find

0:27:49.920 --> 0:27:53.040
<v Speaker 2>that they they're they cannot get close enough. They're closing distance,

0:27:53.080 --> 0:27:54.800
<v Speaker 2>but this high speed boat is way too fast. It's

0:27:54.840 --> 0:27:57.600
<v Speaker 2>at night, and they had got binoculars. They're looking at him,

0:27:58.119 --> 0:27:59.960
<v Speaker 2>and they noticed one of the guys with the monoca

0:28:00.200 --> 0:28:02.560
<v Speaker 2>They notice two large bundles go over the side of

0:28:02.640 --> 0:28:05.119
<v Speaker 2>the speedboat. So some of the agents they peel off

0:28:05.160 --> 0:28:07.000
<v Speaker 2>the speedboat chase and they go to fish out the

0:28:07.040 --> 0:28:09.560
<v Speaker 2>two large bundles, and what do they find. They also

0:28:09.600 --> 0:28:13.560
<v Speaker 2>find an unconscious Mussou. He's just floating there in the

0:28:13.640 --> 0:28:16.680
<v Speaker 2>Detroit River, kaoed by like the head slap to the water,

0:28:16.760 --> 0:28:19.320
<v Speaker 2>I'm guessing, or maybe he was kaoed by the two

0:28:19.400 --> 0:28:21.960
<v Speaker 2>large bundles themselves, which turned out to be two hundred

0:28:21.960 --> 0:28:23.639
<v Speaker 2>and sixty five pounds of marijuana.

0:28:24.359 --> 0:28:26.560
<v Speaker 3>Now, maybe he just had too much Little Caesar's crazy

0:28:26.600 --> 0:28:29.040
<v Speaker 3>bread and it just just totally blew up. His system

0:28:29.840 --> 0:28:32.080
<v Speaker 3>just backed up on him. He's like, uh, I'm gonna

0:28:32.080 --> 0:28:34.280
<v Speaker 3>get carbo loading. I'm gonna take a little nap, little

0:28:34.359 --> 0:28:37.200
<v Speaker 3>Mussou nipe. So he has these two hundred and sixty

0:28:37.240 --> 0:28:39.880
<v Speaker 3>five pounds of marijuana like two floaties attached to his

0:28:40.040 --> 0:28:42.600
<v Speaker 3>arms and they keep him afloat right in time for

0:28:42.640 --> 0:28:44.520
<v Speaker 3>the border patrol agents to just fish him out of

0:28:44.560 --> 0:28:47.680
<v Speaker 3>the water. He gets promptly rearrested, charged on a whole

0:28:47.760 --> 0:28:50.480
<v Speaker 3>bevy of new charges. Now he tries to get back

0:28:50.520 --> 0:28:52.720
<v Speaker 3>with his previous attempt at cooperating with the FELD.

0:28:52.760 --> 0:28:54.880
<v Speaker 2>He's like, no, remember before when I said that would cooperate,

0:28:54.960 --> 0:28:56.120
<v Speaker 2>So let's talk about that some more.

0:28:56.240 --> 0:28:56.400
<v Speaker 3>Huh.

0:28:56.640 --> 0:28:59.240
<v Speaker 2>They're like, no, man, no, come on, Mussau. What with

0:28:59.320 --> 0:29:02.680
<v Speaker 2>the river. He's like, oh, that's just fair. So he

0:29:02.760 --> 0:29:05.640
<v Speaker 2>pleads guilty. The POD charges unlawful entry into US. He

0:29:05.760 --> 0:29:08.400
<v Speaker 2>receives seventy one months in federal prison.

0:29:09.640 --> 0:29:13.880
<v Speaker 3>This maybe, yeah, Like I'm I'm doubling down that I

0:29:13.960 --> 0:29:17.280
<v Speaker 3>think this guy is probably the worst criminal we've had on,

0:29:17.440 --> 0:29:20.120
<v Speaker 3>like the least competent criminal that we've had on.

0:29:20.360 --> 0:29:23.360
<v Speaker 2>Yes, he's he has been like he just constantly gets busted,

0:29:23.480 --> 0:29:26.000
<v Speaker 2>just constantly thinks like what if I flip on everybody

0:29:26.080 --> 0:29:26.280
<v Speaker 2>I know?

0:29:27.400 --> 0:29:28.960
<v Speaker 3>And that like you're gonna get one over. Like I

0:29:29.040 --> 0:29:31.760
<v Speaker 3>love the idea that his little mind is going and

0:29:31.840 --> 0:29:34.120
<v Speaker 3>going and going and he's thinking like okay, So they

0:29:34.280 --> 0:29:37.040
<v Speaker 3>like when I cooperate. If I give them something really big,

0:29:37.440 --> 0:29:39.600
<v Speaker 3>then that will help me out a lot. So here,

0:29:39.600 --> 0:29:41.200
<v Speaker 3>I'm gonna give him some really big and then like

0:29:41.320 --> 0:29:44.120
<v Speaker 3>he walks away, like, well, now I have to fabricate

0:29:44.200 --> 0:29:46.960
<v Speaker 3>an entire massive drug deal to get them the show up.

0:29:47.200 --> 0:29:49.040
<v Speaker 3>Like what's going through his mind that night? Is he

0:29:49.160 --> 0:29:51.360
<v Speaker 3>just like does he start thinking maybe he's gonna try

0:29:51.400 --> 0:29:53.080
<v Speaker 3>to concoct it and then give up, or is he

0:29:53.200 --> 0:29:54.600
<v Speaker 3>just like I'm running for the border Now.

0:29:54.760 --> 0:29:56.640
<v Speaker 2>I think he's just making like a run for the border,

0:29:56.720 --> 0:29:58.680
<v Speaker 2>like it's Taco bell. I think he's like, look, I'm

0:29:58.760 --> 0:30:01.000
<v Speaker 2>out of here. I'm taking my tones pounds of pot

0:30:01.040 --> 0:30:03.000
<v Speaker 2>and I'm hoping i can start a new life in Montreal.

0:30:04.040 --> 0:30:09.640
<v Speaker 2>Dear lord, Yeah, now you reacted to the submarine attached

0:30:09.680 --> 0:30:12.520
<v Speaker 2>to the bottom of the boat, right now, Yeah, those

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<v Speaker 2>are That's called parasites smuggling. And I looked into this.

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<v Speaker 2>Now this it's not the practice of sneaking bloodsucking insects

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<v Speaker 2>over the border. Nope. This is parasite smuggling is an adjective.

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<v Speaker 2>It's it is a growing trend, and it's now actually

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<v Speaker 2>almost big business, not quite but almost. It's what the

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<v Speaker 2>FEDS found on Mussau's phone was plans for a drone

0:30:30.440 --> 0:30:32.560
<v Speaker 2>vessel that would attach to the bottom of a ship. Now,

0:30:32.800 --> 0:30:35.160
<v Speaker 2>the drone vessel was gonna have these powerful magnets that

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<v Speaker 2>could just snap it attached and then they could be

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<v Speaker 2>released and then all of a sudden you could just

0:30:40.000 --> 0:30:42.280
<v Speaker 2>float it away. It could then putt putt over to

0:30:42.440 --> 0:30:44.720
<v Speaker 2>some people in a waiting boat somewhere else in the harbor.

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<v Speaker 2>They pull it out of the water and they float away.

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<v Speaker 2>Brilliant plan, right.

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<v Speaker 3>Sounds like a new San Francisco startup, Like they're gonna

0:30:51.240 --> 0:30:51.920
<v Speaker 3>start selling that.

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<v Speaker 2>As a taxi service, getting people across the seas super cheap,

0:30:57.320 --> 0:31:00.520
<v Speaker 2>so no parasite smuggling, organized criminals. They love it. But

0:31:00.600 --> 0:31:03.280
<v Speaker 2>they have to use scuba divers to attach the cocaine

0:31:03.320 --> 0:31:05.960
<v Speaker 2>stashes to the ocean going container ships and they're usually

0:31:06.000 --> 0:31:07.800
<v Speaker 2>they're headed to Europe. That's always the questions, like how

0:31:07.840 --> 0:31:10.320
<v Speaker 2>do we get this stuff through European customs? Now the

0:31:10.360 --> 0:31:14.240
<v Speaker 2>stashes once again I said, they're secreted into torpedo shaped

0:31:14.320 --> 0:31:18.440
<v Speaker 2>containers and then they're not always attached by magnets. Other

0:31:18.520 --> 0:31:20.520
<v Speaker 2>times they are welded to the bottom and then that

0:31:20.600 --> 0:31:25.000
<v Speaker 2>requires underwater welders and divers. So you're getting into complicated

0:31:25.680 --> 0:31:28.400
<v Speaker 2>operations now, well, I'll give you an example of one.

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<v Speaker 2>Back in twenty thirteen, there was a French smuggling ring

0:31:31.080 --> 0:31:33.600
<v Speaker 2>that had been using this tactic to pardon the pun

0:31:33.760 --> 0:31:38.080
<v Speaker 2>swimming success. Now they'd attached eight long, eight foot torpedo

0:31:38.160 --> 0:31:41.560
<v Speaker 2>shaped containers in South America to European bound cargo ships.

0:31:41.760 --> 0:31:44.680
<v Speaker 2>Their operation was only discovered by happenstance and a bit

0:31:44.720 --> 0:31:47.640
<v Speaker 2>of dumb luck. The French port police from the Port

0:31:47.720 --> 0:31:50.440
<v Speaker 2>of False sux Mer they were doing a patrol when

0:31:50.440 --> 0:31:53.280
<v Speaker 2>they spotted this strange site. There's toodling around the harbor

0:31:53.640 --> 0:31:55.960
<v Speaker 2>on like an underwater scooter were a pair of divers.

0:31:56.280 --> 0:31:59.360
<v Speaker 2>They followed the diver's progress, but rather than bust the divers,

0:31:59.400 --> 0:32:01.680
<v Speaker 2>they decided to track them. So it turns out one

0:32:01.760 --> 0:32:04.520
<v Speaker 2>of the divers was the mastermind of a big bank

0:32:04.600 --> 0:32:06.720
<v Speaker 2>high so we should probably cover the Bank of France

0:32:06.720 --> 0:32:09.520
<v Speaker 2>heist from nineteen ninety two. So they follow this cat

0:32:09.720 --> 0:32:11.760
<v Speaker 2>and that way they can both bust his whole operation.

0:32:12.320 --> 0:32:15.480
<v Speaker 2>The port police learned the smuggling operation was super advanced

0:32:15.520 --> 0:32:18.080
<v Speaker 2>and high tech. The torpedo stash it would be attached

0:32:18.080 --> 0:32:20.200
<v Speaker 2>to the cargo ship hole, as they said, with powerful magnets,

0:32:20.320 --> 0:32:23.040
<v Speaker 2>then they could spot weld it. Otherwise these guys were

0:32:23.080 --> 0:32:26.080
<v Speaker 2>using magnets. They're like, oh, this is incredible. Right now

0:32:26.600 --> 0:32:28.440
<v Speaker 2>the other designs I told you where they have the

0:32:28.720 --> 0:32:30.960
<v Speaker 2>spot welding. That obviously is a little bit more difficult.

0:32:31.040 --> 0:32:34.040
<v Speaker 2>But either way, what always is a question is is

0:32:34.160 --> 0:32:36.400
<v Speaker 2>you know if you want to get it across the Atlantic.

0:32:36.440 --> 0:32:39.600
<v Speaker 2>The smugglers, if they attach it to a big ocean

0:32:39.640 --> 0:32:42.640
<v Speaker 2>going container ship, they can now just watch their progress

0:32:42.720 --> 0:32:44.480
<v Speaker 2>on open source ship tracking apps.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, and.

0:32:45.720 --> 0:32:47.760
<v Speaker 2>They know exactly when the ship gets there. There's no

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<v Speaker 2>more guests work, they don't have to have a spot

0:32:49.360 --> 0:32:51.360
<v Speaker 2>or sitting at the harbor. There's no bribes, they don't

0:32:51.360 --> 0:32:54.840
<v Speaker 2>have to bribe the ship's captain, nobody, none of the

0:32:54.920 --> 0:32:57.240
<v Speaker 2>seamen board, nothing. They just do it open source now

0:32:57.280 --> 0:32:59.000
<v Speaker 2>and then they wait. They get real time updates, they

0:32:59.080 --> 0:33:01.760
<v Speaker 2>show up for the progress they's smuggled shipment, and then boom,

0:33:01.840 --> 0:33:04.480
<v Speaker 2>ship reaches harbor. Smugglers take a little go fast boat

0:33:04.560 --> 0:33:06.320
<v Speaker 2>or a dinghy or maybe even a john boat out

0:33:06.560 --> 0:33:09.760
<v Speaker 2>and then they just drop the parasite subout and then boom. Done.

0:33:09.840 --> 0:33:12.520
<v Speaker 3>Deal Now sometimes they just they'd crack that thing open

0:33:12.600 --> 0:33:14.600
<v Speaker 3>right there. They're like, you know what, we deserve a reward.

0:33:14.840 --> 0:33:17.600
<v Speaker 3>They just like bust over a torpedo. Yeah, just take

0:33:17.640 --> 0:33:20.080
<v Speaker 3>a few sniffs, like an eighties an eighties cop show.

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<v Speaker 3>They're cut that bag open. See if this is the

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<v Speaker 3>good stuff?

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<v Speaker 4>Oh boy?

0:33:23.960 --> 0:33:27.920
<v Speaker 2>Now, in reality, theirs the typical submarine stash. It does

0:33:28.040 --> 0:33:30.400
<v Speaker 2>not be saying detach on her own and neatly pilot

0:33:30.440 --> 0:33:33.080
<v Speaker 2>away as the Musseau and these guys had planned. Usually

0:33:33.160 --> 0:33:34.840
<v Speaker 2>divers have to go down, they have to hand release

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<v Speaker 2>the stash.

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<v Speaker 5>Well.

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<v Speaker 2>The problem is is working at night in a harbor

0:33:39.280 --> 0:33:42.800
<v Speaker 2>is dark, dangerous work. We were talking oily murky waters.

0:33:42.880 --> 0:33:46.600
<v Speaker 2>Divers often die doing this. So the cartels they can't

0:33:46.720 --> 0:33:50.080
<v Speaker 2>just throw in like some random flunkies with an oxygen

0:33:50.160 --> 0:33:51.960
<v Speaker 2>tank and say have at it. Boys. They have to

0:33:52.080 --> 0:33:54.160
<v Speaker 2>go and as I said, hire the best divers they can.

0:33:54.400 --> 0:33:57.720
<v Speaker 2>So they end up hiring world class divers for instance,

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<v Speaker 2>exactly like there's this dude, Matthew Maddie thunder Hotter. He

0:34:04.680 --> 0:34:08.560
<v Speaker 2>was an Australian stripper and a world class diver. Yes,

0:34:09.000 --> 0:34:12.280
<v Speaker 2>really interesting guy. He gets busted on drug possession charges

0:34:12.280 --> 0:34:15.200
<v Speaker 2>after he attempted a risky dive to retrieve ninety one

0:34:15.360 --> 0:34:18.120
<v Speaker 2>kilos of cocaine from the Spirit of Auckland while it

0:34:18.160 --> 0:34:20.279
<v Speaker 2>was at anchor in a place called Port Chalmers. He

0:34:20.400 --> 0:34:23.520
<v Speaker 2>got busted and so Maddie thundered down under. He's just

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<v Speaker 2>one of the many world class divers who've been seduced

0:34:26.160 --> 0:34:27.960
<v Speaker 2>away from their life as well, in his case, a

0:34:28.040 --> 0:34:30.799
<v Speaker 2>male stripper and world class diver. And now they're like, oh,

0:34:30.840 --> 0:34:33.399
<v Speaker 2>I got to respond to the siren call of organized crime.

0:34:33.480 --> 0:34:35.920
<v Speaker 2>It just pays so well because most of the time

0:34:36.400 --> 0:34:38.120
<v Speaker 2>these guys are getting away with it. And when they

0:34:38.160 --> 0:34:40.520
<v Speaker 2>do get busted, yes, things and get real bad, real quick,

0:34:40.880 --> 0:34:42.520
<v Speaker 2>and that is if you don't die doing it. But

0:34:42.719 --> 0:34:44.800
<v Speaker 2>most of the time it works for them, so you

0:34:44.880 --> 0:34:46.160
<v Speaker 2>can see why they would do it.

0:34:46.640 --> 0:34:48.600
<v Speaker 3>But yeah, and these guys they probably want to be

0:34:48.760 --> 0:34:51.480
<v Speaker 3>like diving in old sunken ships and like finding gold

0:34:51.520 --> 0:34:53.040
<v Speaker 3>and stuff, you know, like that's why they get into

0:34:53.080 --> 0:34:55.000
<v Speaker 3>the biz. And this is kind of like that exactly.

0:34:55.360 --> 0:34:57.200
<v Speaker 2>It's and it's you know, it's a lot of fun

0:34:57.280 --> 0:34:59.400
<v Speaker 2>and adventure and it seems like kind of dangerous and

0:34:59.440 --> 0:35:01.200
<v Speaker 2>you feel like, oh, you're in like some kind of

0:35:01.360 --> 0:35:03.440
<v Speaker 2>like you know crime movie. They're like, oh, I'm going

0:35:03.440 --> 0:35:04.920
<v Speaker 2>to get a night down to the French harbor to

0:35:05.000 --> 0:35:07.360
<v Speaker 2>dive in and you know, swim underneath a ship and

0:35:07.440 --> 0:35:10.480
<v Speaker 2>detach cocaine. I mean, like, come on, as cool as hell. Yeah, yeah,

0:35:10.480 --> 0:35:12.320
<v Speaker 2>it seems cool as hell until you're arrested. Then you

0:35:12.400 --> 0:35:13.960
<v Speaker 2>hear it read back to you. You're like, okay, that

0:35:14.080 --> 0:35:16.160
<v Speaker 2>that doesn't sound good when you say it. It sounded

0:35:16.200 --> 0:35:18.719
<v Speaker 2>better in my head. Anyway, Dave, let's take a little

0:35:18.719 --> 0:35:21.000
<v Speaker 2>break and after this we'll get to the wildest story yet.

0:35:21.080 --> 0:35:23.960
<v Speaker 2>I promised you Narco subs were getting Narco subs, and

0:35:24.040 --> 0:35:26.920
<v Speaker 2>this time Pablo Escobar he tries to buy a nuclear

0:35:26.960 --> 0:35:50.680
<v Speaker 2>submarine from the Soviet Union. Yes, okay, Dave, we're back.

0:35:51.040 --> 0:35:52.160
<v Speaker 3>How that happened? Where'd we go?

0:35:52.440 --> 0:35:55.200
<v Speaker 2>I know it? Just warm, delicious ads. Did those feel

0:35:55.200 --> 0:35:56.440
<v Speaker 2>good for you? They felt great for me.

0:35:56.760 --> 0:35:59.440
<v Speaker 3>The ads were like a pillow under my lumbar area

0:35:59.640 --> 0:36:02.759
<v Speaker 3>and just it's like under my neck, a beautiful slumber.

0:36:02.520 --> 0:36:05.040
<v Speaker 2>And the cool side of the pillow. No, less, that's right.

0:36:05.080 --> 0:36:06.880
<v Speaker 2>Now you're ready to talk about the dream of the

0:36:07.000 --> 0:36:08.360
<v Speaker 2>true Narco submarine.

0:36:08.760 --> 0:36:10.879
<v Speaker 3>I'll say this with no lie. I am as ready

0:36:10.920 --> 0:36:11.560
<v Speaker 3>as I will ever.

0:36:11.520 --> 0:36:14.279
<v Speaker 2>Be okay now first, because I want you picturing the

0:36:14.400 --> 0:36:19.160
<v Speaker 2>right thing. We're talking real, actual, factual submarines. Now, do

0:36:19.239 --> 0:36:21.080
<v Speaker 2>you know about the history of Columbia trying to get

0:36:21.080 --> 0:36:24.239
<v Speaker 2>a cocaine sub fleet going? I do not this ever

0:36:24.280 --> 0:36:26.399
<v Speaker 2>come up and you're reading now okay, to be clear,

0:36:26.760 --> 0:36:29.759
<v Speaker 2>not the country of Columbia, but rather the cocaine cartels

0:36:29.760 --> 0:36:32.520
<v Speaker 2>of Columbia at one time. The cartels they wanted to

0:36:32.600 --> 0:36:34.319
<v Speaker 2>have their own navy. They're like, you know what would

0:36:34.320 --> 0:36:36.400
<v Speaker 2>be great is we had our own boats, but not boats.

0:36:36.480 --> 0:36:40.040
<v Speaker 2>We want submarines, something for under the sea. Because this dream,

0:36:41.080 --> 0:36:42.719
<v Speaker 2>it remained a dream for a long time but has

0:36:42.840 --> 0:36:45.360
<v Speaker 2>since been realized, but never like in the true like

0:36:45.600 --> 0:36:48.719
<v Speaker 2>Tom Clancy style Hunt for the coc October.

0:36:49.040 --> 0:36:49.080
<v Speaker 5>No.

0:36:49.560 --> 0:36:52.960
<v Speaker 2>Instead, real coke subs have been kind of embarrassing thus far,

0:36:53.120 --> 0:36:56.200
<v Speaker 2>especially as an effort from basically a multi billion dollar industry.

0:36:56.239 --> 0:36:58.160
<v Speaker 2>I mean the cocaine people. They got money. They can

0:36:58.239 --> 0:37:00.640
<v Speaker 2>throw it at their R and D. But anyway, before

0:37:00.640 --> 0:37:03.440
<v Speaker 2>we get to Pablo Bascobar and his Soviet era missile

0:37:03.480 --> 0:37:05.320
<v Speaker 2>sub first, I'd like to take you into the Eastern

0:37:05.360 --> 0:37:08.800
<v Speaker 2>Pacific Ocean a board a coastguard cutter. And to do that,

0:37:09.280 --> 0:37:12.320
<v Speaker 2>I would like you to close your eyes, and David,

0:37:12.600 --> 0:37:13.560
<v Speaker 2>I'd like you to picture it.

0:37:14.560 --> 0:37:16.759
<v Speaker 3>My eyes are closed. I'm opening a course cutter too.

0:37:18.760 --> 0:37:21.719
<v Speaker 2>The year is twenty eighteen, the month is June, and you, Dave,

0:37:21.800 --> 0:37:25.239
<v Speaker 2>are aboard the Coastguard cutter Monroe. As it slices through

0:37:25.320 --> 0:37:28.399
<v Speaker 2>the open ocean waves, it rises and then slams down.

0:37:28.520 --> 0:37:31.960
<v Speaker 2>After each wave's lift, sea spray splashes against your cheeks,

0:37:32.160 --> 0:37:36.239
<v Speaker 2>wetting your face in a semi regular rhythm. Dave, you

0:37:36.640 --> 0:37:38.200
<v Speaker 2>are a Coastguard cadet.

0:37:38.760 --> 0:37:40.279
<v Speaker 3>This is your is a dream come true.

0:37:40.400 --> 0:37:43.040
<v Speaker 2>This is your first big mission at sea. Good luck seamen.

0:37:43.280 --> 0:37:45.040
<v Speaker 2>Oh wait, that's the Navy. Sorry I should say good

0:37:45.120 --> 0:37:49.239
<v Speaker 2>luck guardsman. Anyway, your vote is not out on a patrol, no, sir,

0:37:49.440 --> 0:37:51.719
<v Speaker 2>you are on the hunt. You've been coordinating with a

0:37:51.800 --> 0:37:54.480
<v Speaker 2>Coast Guard aircraft that's been tracking your prey and guiding

0:37:54.520 --> 0:37:57.359
<v Speaker 2>you from above. The prey in question is a Narco sub.

0:37:57.440 --> 0:37:59.880
<v Speaker 2>The sub is surfaced, yet it's still difficult to spot

0:38:00.080 --> 0:38:03.040
<v Speaker 2>since it's painted blue like the water. But from above,

0:38:03.120 --> 0:38:05.680
<v Speaker 2>from the sky, its trail is easier to track. This

0:38:05.840 --> 0:38:08.719
<v Speaker 2>Coast Guard aircraft. It gives your cutter that all clear

0:38:08.840 --> 0:38:11.680
<v Speaker 2>to engage. Your boat goes full throttle to catch the

0:38:11.800 --> 0:38:14.759
<v Speaker 2>sub before it slips back under the surface of the

0:38:14.840 --> 0:38:17.279
<v Speaker 2>sea and it disappears. The sub in question is not

0:38:17.360 --> 0:38:19.920
<v Speaker 2>a military sub yet it is fully capable of submerging

0:38:19.960 --> 0:38:22.399
<v Speaker 2>for a length of time. This sub was most likely

0:38:22.480 --> 0:38:25.400
<v Speaker 2>constructed in the jungles of Columbia before it was launched

0:38:25.400 --> 0:38:27.919
<v Speaker 2>by the cartel. The reason your boat must be quick

0:38:28.000 --> 0:38:30.040
<v Speaker 2>is that once the sub slips under the surface of

0:38:30.080 --> 0:38:33.560
<v Speaker 2>the water, the sub is designed to be sunk, intentionally sunk.

0:38:33.800 --> 0:38:37.040
<v Speaker 2>The evidence lost to Davy Jones's locker while the crew

0:38:37.400 --> 0:38:40.279
<v Speaker 2>escapes the sinking submarine, only to be rescued by you

0:38:40.560 --> 0:38:43.360
<v Speaker 2>in the coastguard, which they know won't let the crew drown.

0:38:43.800 --> 0:38:46.319
<v Speaker 2>So your cutter closes in on the surface narco sub

0:38:46.480 --> 0:38:49.880
<v Speaker 2>wave splashing, wind blowing, You feel the adrenaline pumping through you.

0:38:50.200 --> 0:38:53.080
<v Speaker 2>Two smaller boats are set to be launched. You're ordered

0:38:53.120 --> 0:38:55.640
<v Speaker 2>into one of the small boats and you attempt to

0:38:55.800 --> 0:38:58.840
<v Speaker 2>go and board the submarine. This does not sound like

0:38:58.880 --> 0:39:00.880
<v Speaker 2>a good idea to you. It's the middle of the

0:39:00.960 --> 0:39:04.080
<v Speaker 2>open ocean. These are cocaine smugglers, most likely armed, perhaps

0:39:04.080 --> 0:39:06.759
<v Speaker 2>heavily armed, but anyway you steal yourself. You calm, you're

0:39:06.800 --> 0:39:09.359
<v Speaker 2>racing mind as the small boat's engine does its job

0:39:09.520 --> 0:39:12.400
<v Speaker 2>getting you closer to the sub. Your boat races up

0:39:12.440 --> 0:39:15.680
<v Speaker 2>alongside the Narco sub, the engines humming against the sea.

0:39:16.040 --> 0:39:18.960
<v Speaker 2>You spot the poorly painted blue paint job of the

0:39:19.040 --> 0:39:22.280
<v Speaker 2>sub up close, and then your boat bumps up against

0:39:22.360 --> 0:39:24.759
<v Speaker 2>the sub. The engine cuts out. You can hear the

0:39:24.840 --> 0:39:27.920
<v Speaker 2>sea water laughing against the sub. The guardsman next to you,

0:39:28.200 --> 0:39:31.040
<v Speaker 2>he just jumps onto the sub. His boots slap the

0:39:31.120 --> 0:39:34.239
<v Speaker 2>sub steal skin. Water rushes past his boots as he

0:39:34.320 --> 0:39:38.280
<v Speaker 2>grips tight to the sub. You watch, just amazed the guardsman.

0:39:38.320 --> 0:39:40.040
<v Speaker 2>He grabs hold of the hatch and he wheels it

0:39:40.120 --> 0:39:42.920
<v Speaker 2>open as it winds with each revolution. Then he yanks

0:39:42.960 --> 0:39:46.279
<v Speaker 2>open the hatch. He wins, expecting gunfire. You hear the

0:39:46.400 --> 0:39:49.880
<v Speaker 2>guardsmen yell down to the cocaine smugglers. Everyone out of

0:39:49.920 --> 0:39:53.280
<v Speaker 2>the sub. He sounds like some kind of honky lifeguard

0:39:53.360 --> 0:39:56.440
<v Speaker 2>working at a suburban pool back on in Providence. But

0:39:56.560 --> 0:40:00.239
<v Speaker 2>the coke smugglers listen right, They jump and crawl out

0:40:00.239 --> 0:40:03.200
<v Speaker 2>of the sub. You were gobsmacked and so glad it

0:40:03.320 --> 0:40:06.000
<v Speaker 2>wasn't you who had to jump onto the homemade narco sub.

0:40:06.800 --> 0:40:08.400
<v Speaker 2>There you go. Dahn't it that?

0:40:08.560 --> 0:40:10.279
<v Speaker 3>You're so good? Oh my god.

0:40:10.719 --> 0:40:13.320
<v Speaker 2>Now aboard that narco sub, the Coast Guard would discover

0:40:13.640 --> 0:40:17.040
<v Speaker 2>seven hundred kiloads of coke. That's about fifteen hundred pounds

0:40:17.040 --> 0:40:18.480
<v Speaker 2>of cocaine, if you want to do the math, or

0:40:18.520 --> 0:40:20.279
<v Speaker 2>about three quarters of a ton of coke.

0:40:21.040 --> 0:40:23.080
<v Speaker 3>So how many how many for f one fifties? Is

0:40:23.160 --> 0:40:25.440
<v Speaker 3>that it's like half an f one fifty.

0:40:26.040 --> 0:40:30.759
<v Speaker 6>Yes, I had never thought of coke in f one

0:40:30.920 --> 0:40:33.640
<v Speaker 6>fifty terms, but we have to start doing that, only

0:40:33.719 --> 0:40:36.640
<v Speaker 6>placing it in F one fifty conversion rates.

0:40:37.120 --> 0:40:40.200
<v Speaker 2>That's amazing. So the Coast Guard estimated the street value

0:40:40.239 --> 0:40:43.160
<v Speaker 2>at three hundred and thirty two million dollars, but as

0:40:43.200 --> 0:40:45.200
<v Speaker 2>you and I both know, those estimates are usually too high.

0:40:45.239 --> 0:40:48.160
<v Speaker 2>But still a bunch of cocaine. So the dream of

0:40:48.239 --> 0:40:51.200
<v Speaker 2>a narco sub, as it was realized there, was done poorly.

0:40:51.600 --> 0:40:53.760
<v Speaker 2>But it is a very old idea for the cartels.

0:40:53.800 --> 0:40:56.400
<v Speaker 2>It dates back to the nineties when they first started

0:40:56.440 --> 0:40:58.880
<v Speaker 2>to really get into it. Now, the footage of you

0:40:58.960 --> 0:41:01.440
<v Speaker 2>when your Coast Guard mission, when that drug intradiction, that

0:41:01.520 --> 0:41:03.960
<v Speaker 2>footage hit the internet. It went viral folks were like,

0:41:04.080 --> 0:41:07.719
<v Speaker 2>what the hell the cartels have their own submarines, you know,

0:41:07.840 --> 0:41:10.120
<v Speaker 2>because they didn't realize they've been trying out, they've been

0:41:10.120 --> 0:41:12.320
<v Speaker 2>trying to do this for you know, Nia on twenty years.

0:41:12.760 --> 0:41:15.960
<v Speaker 2>But the idea of cartels with submarines of cocaine, it's

0:41:16.040 --> 0:41:19.319
<v Speaker 2>like criminal sci fi. It's like, are you kidding me? Now,

0:41:19.440 --> 0:41:21.480
<v Speaker 2>clearly it'd be genius for a smuggler to be able

0:41:21.520 --> 0:41:23.440
<v Speaker 2>to hide in the ocean, because you know, oceans are

0:41:23.480 --> 0:41:25.560
<v Speaker 2>like what seventy percent of the Earth's surface. I mean,

0:41:25.600 --> 0:41:29.279
<v Speaker 2>you're increasing your surface area by unfathomable amount.

0:41:29.239 --> 0:41:32.759
<v Speaker 3>Anyway, and you can a run silent and be run deep.

0:41:33.120 --> 0:41:33.760
<v Speaker 3>Very true.

0:41:34.840 --> 0:41:37.080
<v Speaker 2>Now, really this is a big game changer for them,

0:41:37.120 --> 0:41:39.800
<v Speaker 2>but it's it's apparently still not a super common tactic.

0:41:40.080 --> 0:41:41.520
<v Speaker 2>But as I told you, I want to tell you

0:41:41.880 --> 0:41:44.239
<v Speaker 2>my favorite story of a Narco sub and of course

0:41:44.400 --> 0:41:47.760
<v Speaker 2>it features Pablo Escobar. Now, as they set up top cartels,

0:41:47.760 --> 0:41:50.480
<v Speaker 2>they had their eye on buying an actual, factual Soviet

0:41:50.560 --> 0:41:54.720
<v Speaker 2>era Fox Trot class submarine. But what maybe even crazier

0:41:54.880 --> 0:41:57.120
<v Speaker 2>is that the Russian military were more than happy to

0:41:57.200 --> 0:42:01.560
<v Speaker 2>discuss prices, payloads, and even deliveries schedules the dave. I'd

0:42:01.640 --> 0:42:05.280
<v Speaker 2>like you to meet Ludwig Feinberg aka Tarzan.

0:42:06.120 --> 0:42:08.200
<v Speaker 3>That's this guy, my man, your man? Or is he

0:42:08.320 --> 0:42:08.839
<v Speaker 3>just a dude.

0:42:08.920 --> 0:42:11.799
<v Speaker 2>He's just a dude. But his street name Tarzan. I'll

0:42:11.840 --> 0:42:13.560
<v Speaker 2>give him that. He's got a dope street name. So

0:42:13.680 --> 0:42:16.760
<v Speaker 2>the year is nineteen eighty and Tarzan lands in Miami.

0:42:17.160 --> 0:42:19.640
<v Speaker 2>He arrived at the height of the cocaine cowboy ara

0:42:19.680 --> 0:42:22.960
<v Speaker 2>in Miami. Organized crime is just doing gangbuster as well

0:42:23.400 --> 0:42:26.040
<v Speaker 2>in the Florida Southland, and that's how Tarzan. He gets

0:42:26.080 --> 0:42:29.280
<v Speaker 2>a job working for the Gambino crime family. He becomes

0:42:29.320 --> 0:42:31.919
<v Speaker 2>an enforcer for the mob. He finds it he's really

0:42:31.960 --> 0:42:34.279
<v Speaker 2>good at beating people within an inch of their life.

0:42:34.520 --> 0:42:35.920
<v Speaker 2>So he's like, oh, I think I can make a

0:42:35.960 --> 0:42:37.600
<v Speaker 2>go of this, maybe make a career out of that.

0:42:38.000 --> 0:42:39.959
<v Speaker 2>I could turn people into like a high paying career

0:42:39.960 --> 0:42:43.000
<v Speaker 2>here in America. And he does, and unlike boxers, he

0:42:43.000 --> 0:42:45.200
<v Speaker 2>wouldn't even have to wear satin shorts. He's like, this

0:42:45.360 --> 0:42:49.520
<v Speaker 2>works for Tarzan, so soon as I'll set your own hours, yes, exactly,

0:42:49.640 --> 0:42:51.840
<v Speaker 2>be your own boss. He's doing well enough that he

0:42:51.880 --> 0:42:55.600
<v Speaker 2>gets goes from mob enforcer to eventually strip club owner,

0:42:55.680 --> 0:42:59.400
<v Speaker 2>He's like, look at this, oh Mary right. So, Inspired

0:42:59.480 --> 0:43:02.280
<v Speaker 2>by the the very raunchy comedy of the day, Tarzan

0:43:02.440 --> 0:43:04.239
<v Speaker 2>named his new place Porky's.

0:43:04.960 --> 0:43:07.320
<v Speaker 3>Oh boy, yeah and so, being that he was Russian,

0:43:07.360 --> 0:43:09.960
<v Speaker 3>his strip club quickly becomes good. I was gonna say,

0:43:10.000 --> 0:43:12.279
<v Speaker 3>he's probably so embarrassed. Now he's like, oh, that did

0:43:12.360 --> 0:43:14.600
<v Speaker 3>not that did not make it safe. Way into twenty

0:43:14.640 --> 0:43:16.439
<v Speaker 3>twenty three, I can't even talk about my old strip

0:43:16.480 --> 0:43:17.000
<v Speaker 3>club anymore.

0:43:17.080 --> 0:43:19.799
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, my old strip club would be canceled these days, guys.

0:43:21.000 --> 0:43:23.240
<v Speaker 2>Being that he was Russian, his strip club quickly becomes

0:43:23.320 --> 0:43:26.440
<v Speaker 2>the choice hangout for the Russian mafia figures of Miami.

0:43:26.760 --> 0:43:29.160
<v Speaker 2>Working out of the strip club, Tarzan graduates to being

0:43:29.200 --> 0:43:31.960
<v Speaker 2>a respected organized crime figure all on his own. He

0:43:32.040 --> 0:43:34.280
<v Speaker 2>begins to be introduced to the rich and the famous,

0:43:34.360 --> 0:43:36.400
<v Speaker 2>those who had a taste for the tawdry and the lurid.

0:43:36.640 --> 0:43:40.479
<v Speaker 2>Eventually well, for instance, the rapper Vanilla Ice. Vanilla Ice,

0:43:40.520 --> 0:43:42.759
<v Speaker 2>who is not just a fun name to say, but

0:43:42.960 --> 0:43:45.840
<v Speaker 2>he would become key to this story because he was

0:43:45.880 --> 0:43:48.480
<v Speaker 2>the one who introduced Tarzan to his future partner in

0:43:48.560 --> 0:43:52.600
<v Speaker 2>Crimejan Almeida. We would not have this story without Vanilla Ice.

0:43:53.280 --> 0:43:54.480
<v Speaker 2>Strange corners.

0:43:55.200 --> 0:43:57.000
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, what I really want to know is, and you'll

0:43:57.040 --> 0:44:01.439
<v Speaker 3>have to indulge me. If somehow Rockman loves driving Lamborghinis

0:44:01.640 --> 0:44:04.480
<v Speaker 3>are gonna play into this, then you'll really have my attention.

0:44:04.920 --> 0:44:06.960
<v Speaker 2>I wish I could do that. I'll see what I

0:44:07.000 --> 0:44:08.719
<v Speaker 2>can do. Let's see if I can stretch it now.

0:44:08.840 --> 0:44:12.319
<v Speaker 2>Juan Almeida he was in the import export business, which

0:44:12.400 --> 0:44:15.880
<v Speaker 2>means he primarily moved exotic, high end supercars and super

0:44:15.920 --> 0:44:20.040
<v Speaker 2>pricey speedboats, some of them legit, some not legit. Anyway,

0:44:20.760 --> 0:44:23.200
<v Speaker 2>by this time, we're into the early nineteen nineties and

0:44:23.239 --> 0:44:26.600
<v Speaker 2>the Soviet Union has just collapsed. So Tarzan he's like, oh,

0:44:26.640 --> 0:44:29.000
<v Speaker 2>I can finally return home to the new Russian Federation.

0:44:29.120 --> 0:44:30.920
<v Speaker 2>So he does exactly that. He goes back there with

0:44:31.000 --> 0:44:34.320
<v Speaker 2>Juan Almeida, and together they start exploiting the post Soviet

0:44:34.400 --> 0:44:37.840
<v Speaker 2>collapse to their benefit. They basically buy up anything that moved.

0:44:38.080 --> 0:44:40.600
<v Speaker 2>They could think, oh, yeah, I can get top dollar

0:44:40.680 --> 0:44:43.120
<v Speaker 2>for that motorcycle back wherever, right, I'll take that boat.

0:44:43.160 --> 0:44:45.239
<v Speaker 2>They're taking up everything that people would buying at the

0:44:45.320 --> 0:44:48.400
<v Speaker 2>end of the Soviet collapse. They're paying pennies on the

0:44:48.480 --> 0:44:51.080
<v Speaker 2>dollar for this stuff. Or I'm sorry pennies on the ruble.

0:44:51.280 --> 0:44:54.839
<v Speaker 2>But anyway, these two of scrupulous international mobsters, they work

0:44:54.880 --> 0:44:57.920
<v Speaker 2>their magic and the chaos of post Soviet Russia and

0:44:58.040 --> 0:45:03.040
<v Speaker 2>they meet this equally moral lists man named Nelson Tony Yester.

0:45:03.719 --> 0:45:06.080
<v Speaker 2>I do not know how you get Tony out of Nelson,

0:45:06.160 --> 0:45:08.160
<v Speaker 2>so don't even ask. I have no idea what to say.

0:45:08.160 --> 0:45:09.520
<v Speaker 2>I mean, street named Tony.

0:45:10.080 --> 0:45:12.080
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, how do you get Tarzan out of that other

0:45:12.160 --> 0:45:12.680
<v Speaker 3>dude's name?

0:45:12.760 --> 0:45:17.360
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, exactly. So anyway, Tony Yester, he is a bona

0:45:17.440 --> 0:45:21.440
<v Speaker 2>fide international criminal. He was aligned with a meta Yin cartel,

0:45:21.480 --> 0:45:24.560
<v Speaker 2>which was Pablo Escobar's cartel. Now, when Tony Yester cross

0:45:24.640 --> 0:45:27.520
<v Speaker 2>pass with Tarzan and Juan Almeida, the three men came

0:45:27.600 --> 0:45:30.359
<v Speaker 2>up with one al of a business deal. Yester would

0:45:30.360 --> 0:45:33.520
<v Speaker 2>broker the deal for Pablo Escobar, Tarzan and Almeida. They'd

0:45:33.600 --> 0:45:36.160
<v Speaker 2>offer up their Russian contacts to make the deal. So

0:45:36.280 --> 0:45:38.840
<v Speaker 2>what was the deal, Well, Pablo Escobar he wanted to

0:45:38.880 --> 0:45:43.560
<v Speaker 2>buy two Russian made Kamov helicopters. If you're not familiar

0:45:43.640 --> 0:45:47.279
<v Speaker 2>with this line of Soviet transport choppers, the Kamov Dave

0:45:47.440 --> 0:45:50.600
<v Speaker 2>was a heavy payload chopper. It was a helicopter perfect

0:45:50.640 --> 0:45:54.319
<v Speaker 2>for moving hundreds and hundreds of pounds of cocaine like beautiful. Yeah,

0:45:54.320 --> 0:45:57.880
<v Speaker 2>I'm guessing it was most likely the kamov Ka thirty two.

0:45:58.000 --> 0:45:59.640
<v Speaker 3>Which is a beautiful, beautiful bird.

0:45:59.719 --> 0:46:02.640
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah. He's often billed as quote the most powerful

0:46:02.840 --> 0:46:06.480
<v Speaker 2>heavy load helicopter, twin engine with coaxial rotor system with

0:46:06.680 --> 0:46:10.160
<v Speaker 2>lifting capacity of up to five tons. It's a bad boy.

0:46:10.960 --> 0:46:13.120
<v Speaker 2>Nice now, this thing was It looks like something Rambo

0:46:13.120 --> 0:46:15.920
<v Speaker 2>would shoot down with the Bazuka, you know, like twin rotors,

0:46:16.080 --> 0:46:19.399
<v Speaker 2>like big wide Soviet style. Anyway, the deal goes through.

0:46:19.560 --> 0:46:22.400
<v Speaker 2>All sides are pleased. Pablo gets his Soviet choppers, starts

0:46:22.520 --> 0:46:25.600
<v Speaker 2>slanging coke out of him. Almina returns to Moscow for

0:46:25.680 --> 0:46:28.560
<v Speaker 2>a new deal. He's like, oh, but this time he

0:46:28.600 --> 0:46:31.440
<v Speaker 2>doesn't say like, I'm here on behalf of Pablo Escobar.

0:46:31.600 --> 0:46:34.239
<v Speaker 2>This time he says, I am Pablo Escobar. He goes

0:46:34.320 --> 0:46:36.840
<v Speaker 2>around Russia pretending to be Pablo Escobar.

0:46:37.239 --> 0:46:38.800
<v Speaker 3>Now, I mean, if you can get away with it,

0:46:38.960 --> 0:46:39.759
<v Speaker 3>it's a strong move.

0:46:39.880 --> 0:46:41.759
<v Speaker 2>They didn't have the Internet, they couldn't look it up.

0:46:41.760 --> 0:46:45.240
<v Speaker 2>People were like, well he looks Spanish to me, well, Colombian. Whatever.

0:46:45.320 --> 0:46:46.680
<v Speaker 2>He speaks Spanish. I don't know.

0:46:47.480 --> 0:46:50.919
<v Speaker 3>Uh, I have to confess I did, and I don't.

0:46:50.960 --> 0:46:52.839
<v Speaker 3>I don't look Spanish, I don't have any Latin blood.

0:46:52.960 --> 0:46:53.120
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

0:46:53.200 --> 0:46:56.400
<v Speaker 3>I did once use a fake ID of my sister's

0:46:56.440 --> 0:47:02.400
<v Speaker 3>boyfriend Miguel Sanchez to uh maybe, so I've done this

0:47:02.680 --> 0:47:03.200
<v Speaker 3>and it works.

0:47:03.280 --> 0:47:05.239
<v Speaker 2>It did work, It does work. Yeah, I'm telling even

0:47:05.239 --> 0:47:07.439
<v Speaker 2>I could use like a Spanish name. People are like, okay, yeah,

0:47:07.480 --> 0:47:09.560
<v Speaker 2>maybe Cuban. I don't know whatever, So I think we

0:47:09.600 --> 0:47:11.360
<v Speaker 2>should all just keep that in mind. You can always

0:47:11.400 --> 0:47:16.080
<v Speaker 2>pretend you speak Spanish. Anyway. Well, he's bobbing around post

0:47:16.160 --> 0:47:19.239
<v Speaker 2>Soviet Moscow. Al Naida and Tarzan. They arrange a deal

0:47:19.320 --> 0:47:23.040
<v Speaker 2>to supply the new capitalistic nation with all the cocaine

0:47:23.080 --> 0:47:26.080
<v Speaker 2>that it can snort, smoke or shoot, and everyone's like, yay,

0:47:26.680 --> 0:47:29.480
<v Speaker 2>not really, but anyway, this cat al Juan Almida and

0:47:29.640 --> 0:47:32.880
<v Speaker 2>the former mob enforcer Tarzan. They both become heroes to

0:47:32.960 --> 0:47:35.800
<v Speaker 2>the Meda Yine cartel and specifically to Pablo Escobar. He

0:47:35.880 --> 0:47:38.239
<v Speaker 2>doesn't even care that they've been pretending to be him.

0:47:38.239 --> 0:47:39.799
<v Speaker 2>They're like, hey, you got the deal, that was great,

0:47:39.920 --> 0:47:41.920
<v Speaker 2>and I didn't get shot. You can get shot for me.

0:47:42.040 --> 0:47:45.680
<v Speaker 3>Whatever, imagine the free stuff, like just the incredible amount

0:47:45.719 --> 0:47:47.680
<v Speaker 3>of free stuff you get if you tell everybody you're

0:47:47.680 --> 0:47:48.680
<v Speaker 3>Pablo Escobar.

0:47:48.440 --> 0:47:50.440
<v Speaker 2>Oh my god, yes, or the stuff you can just take,

0:47:50.520 --> 0:47:52.200
<v Speaker 2>say i am Pablo Escobar. They don't have to give

0:47:52.200 --> 0:47:53.480
<v Speaker 2>it to you can just give it to yourself.

0:47:53.960 --> 0:47:56.960
<v Speaker 3>You like, oh, you don't have any tables available, Well,

0:47:56.960 --> 0:47:58.640
<v Speaker 3>I'm taking that one. Did you get the hell out?

0:47:58.719 --> 0:48:01.279
<v Speaker 2>Yeah? You can just sit down Pablo Escobar. They're like, okay,

0:48:01.360 --> 0:48:05.560
<v Speaker 2>I'll be sitting over here. So Juan Almida Tarzan. They

0:48:05.640 --> 0:48:08.719
<v Speaker 2>now are working as a personal go betweens between Colombia

0:48:08.760 --> 0:48:12.719
<v Speaker 2>and Russia, working essentially for Pablo Escobar as his man

0:48:12.840 --> 0:48:15.480
<v Speaker 2>in Russia. But soon thereafter, in the waning days of

0:48:15.600 --> 0:48:18.400
<v Speaker 2>nineteen ninety three, Pablo Escobar gets gunned down by the

0:48:18.440 --> 0:48:21.759
<v Speaker 2>Colombian army and they're like, oh man our bell cow Now.

0:48:21.920 --> 0:48:23.880
<v Speaker 2>In response, they're like, what are we gonna do? They

0:48:23.960 --> 0:48:27.440
<v Speaker 2>wait around a little while, and the newly formed Cali cartel,

0:48:27.560 --> 0:48:31.080
<v Speaker 2>So the Cali Cartel forms. After the Median Cartel basically

0:48:31.120 --> 0:48:32.680
<v Speaker 2>loses its leader, they're like, oh, we're gonna go out

0:48:32.680 --> 0:48:35.840
<v Speaker 2>and become our own cartel. They reach out to Almeda

0:48:35.880 --> 0:48:37.799
<v Speaker 2>they're like, hey, remember what you did for Pablo, we'd

0:48:37.880 --> 0:48:39.920
<v Speaker 2>like you to do that for us. We're gonna go

0:48:40.040 --> 0:48:42.480
<v Speaker 2>bigger than he ever did. The Cali Cartel asked them

0:48:42.520 --> 0:48:46.520
<v Speaker 2>to become their hardware supplier for another purchase of former

0:48:46.680 --> 0:48:49.239
<v Speaker 2>Soviet military equipment, but the Cali Cartel is like, we

0:48:49.320 --> 0:48:52.399
<v Speaker 2>don't want choppers. We're not into all that. Tony, Yester,

0:48:52.800 --> 0:48:57.480
<v Speaker 2>see if you can get us a fully functional Soviet submarine.

0:48:57.760 --> 0:49:00.440
<v Speaker 2>He's like, yes, I'll ask around what I can do.

0:49:00.480 --> 0:49:02.759
<v Speaker 2>They're like, yeah, we don't want a nuclear powered one.

0:49:02.800 --> 0:49:04.480
<v Speaker 2>We don't have all the plutonium for that. Just one

0:49:04.520 --> 0:49:06.400
<v Speaker 2>of the old diesel numbers. But make sure that it

0:49:06.440 --> 0:49:08.680
<v Speaker 2>has missile capabilities. He's like, ah, done deal.

0:49:09.520 --> 0:49:13.000
<v Speaker 3>Also, cool hats the submarine and a couple cool hats.

0:49:13.040 --> 0:49:14.520
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, give us some of those fur hats. We want

0:49:14.560 --> 0:49:15.440
<v Speaker 2>those for the boys now.

0:49:16.360 --> 0:49:16.600
<v Speaker 3>Yester.

0:49:16.760 --> 0:49:19.200
<v Speaker 2>He tells the Cali Cartel that the Soviet sub would

0:49:19.239 --> 0:49:22.719
<v Speaker 2>cost a cool fifty million dollars. Cali Cartel's like, whoa, whoa,

0:49:22.880 --> 0:49:25.040
<v Speaker 2>it's a lot more than we thought. We were expecting

0:49:25.080 --> 0:49:27.920
<v Speaker 2>a way lower number. But then they're free spending. I mean,

0:49:27.960 --> 0:49:30.360
<v Speaker 2>they are a cocaine cartel. They're they're making, you know,

0:49:31.000 --> 0:49:32.920
<v Speaker 2>but they are once again a business. They have their

0:49:32.960 --> 0:49:35.440
<v Speaker 2>minds on profit on the bottom line. This, you know,

0:49:35.520 --> 0:49:37.800
<v Speaker 2>drug dealing is not a nonprofit business. These guys are like,

0:49:38.160 --> 0:49:41.360
<v Speaker 2>you know, how much let's think about the return on

0:49:41.440 --> 0:49:44.520
<v Speaker 2>our investment. How much tonnage of coke could we ship

0:49:44.640 --> 0:49:47.640
<v Speaker 2>in a Soviet submarine? To Tony Ester's like, does the calculations,

0:49:47.680 --> 0:49:50.480
<v Speaker 2>He's like, uh, according to my calculations, you could expect

0:49:50.520 --> 0:49:53.000
<v Speaker 2>to ship about forty million dollars of coke per load.

0:49:53.239 --> 0:49:54.280
<v Speaker 2>They're like, done, deals.

0:49:54.040 --> 0:49:54.840
<v Speaker 3>Out, We'll take it.

0:49:54.960 --> 0:49:57.640
<v Speaker 2>We'll take can we get two? So that Tony Yester

0:49:57.760 --> 0:49:59.720
<v Speaker 2>he goes he gets the go ahead from the Cali cartel.

0:50:00.000 --> 0:50:01.839
<v Speaker 2>He goes back to Tarzan and Almida. He's like, talk

0:50:01.880 --> 0:50:04.320
<v Speaker 2>to your Russian contacts, let's do this. They contact the

0:50:04.440 --> 0:50:07.239
<v Speaker 2>Russian Navy and Tarzan is told it'll take a few

0:50:07.320 --> 0:50:09.080
<v Speaker 2>days to find out if the deal can even be done.

0:50:09.080 --> 0:50:10.600
<v Speaker 2>They're like, we'll see see if this wee can actually

0:50:10.640 --> 0:50:14.279
<v Speaker 2>make this happen. It takes two days. Two days after that,

0:50:14.400 --> 0:50:16.320
<v Speaker 2>Tarzan picks up the phone and he hears, do you

0:50:16.440 --> 0:50:18.840
<v Speaker 2>want submarine with missiles or without?

0:50:19.760 --> 0:50:20.000
<v Speaker 3>Yeah?

0:50:20.360 --> 0:50:23.120
<v Speaker 2>So the Russian Navy was ready and willing to sell

0:50:23.160 --> 0:50:27.000
<v Speaker 2>a fox Trot class Soviet submarine. The sub had been

0:50:27.080 --> 0:50:29.120
<v Speaker 2>at sea since the nineteen fifties, but it was still

0:50:29.320 --> 0:50:33.120
<v Speaker 2>ship shape and seaworthy. This diesel submarine was three hundred

0:50:33.160 --> 0:50:37.360
<v Speaker 2>feet long. It boasted ten torpedo tubes. You know it

0:50:37.440 --> 0:50:39.000
<v Speaker 2>In case like the cartel wanted to like sink like

0:50:39.080 --> 0:50:41.080
<v Speaker 2>a coast guard cutter, they had options. Or if they

0:50:41.120 --> 0:50:43.920
<v Speaker 2>wanted to sink an American battleship, whatever, they had options.

0:50:44.040 --> 0:50:46.839
<v Speaker 2>So the deal in place. Tarzan and Almida they flew

0:50:46.920 --> 0:50:49.600
<v Speaker 2>back to Moscow. They met again with their contacts who

0:50:49.680 --> 0:50:52.840
<v Speaker 2>introduced them to the high ranking officers who gave the

0:50:52.920 --> 0:50:56.920
<v Speaker 2>cartel fixers a tour of their super secret submarine installation

0:50:57.440 --> 0:50:59.640
<v Speaker 2>and the tour of the subs that they had in

0:50:59.680 --> 0:51:03.200
<v Speaker 2>their super secret submarine base. Tarzan and Almeia were like, Hey,

0:51:03.200 --> 0:51:04.680
<v Speaker 2>would it be cool if we took a photo with

0:51:04.760 --> 0:51:06.800
<v Speaker 2>the subject proved to the cartel that is real and

0:51:06.880 --> 0:51:10.560
<v Speaker 2>in good shape and not a scam. And they're like, no, no, no,

0:51:10.680 --> 0:51:12.680
<v Speaker 2>I don't think that would be a yet yeth. But

0:51:12.760 --> 0:51:14.680
<v Speaker 2>the Russian naval officers, you know, even though they were

0:51:14.760 --> 0:51:18.120
<v Speaker 2>leary about photos of the super secret sub basse. Tarzan

0:51:18.280 --> 0:51:21.680
<v Speaker 2>was like, you know, money talks, so how about two

0:51:21.719 --> 0:51:25.320
<v Speaker 2>hundred dollars? And they're like, okay, so that's a selfie

0:51:25.480 --> 0:51:29.120
<v Speaker 2>exactly two hundred bucks, the guys, Tarzan gets his photo. Now,

0:51:29.160 --> 0:51:32.359
<v Speaker 2>at one point, according to Tarzan and confirmed by Tony Yester,

0:51:32.440 --> 0:51:34.520
<v Speaker 2>the Russians even asked the cartel, would you look to

0:51:34.640 --> 0:51:37.719
<v Speaker 2>buy nuclear weapon? We have all sorts here right, So

0:51:37.800 --> 0:51:40.520
<v Speaker 2>they were terrifying considering selling a nuclear weapon to the

0:51:40.600 --> 0:51:43.279
<v Speaker 2>Cali cartel. And now how serious they were is left

0:51:43.320 --> 0:51:43.960
<v Speaker 2>for you to decide.

0:51:44.040 --> 0:51:44.360
<v Speaker 3>I don't know.

0:51:44.480 --> 0:51:46.440
<v Speaker 2>But anyway, at this point, Tarzan and all of his

0:51:46.640 --> 0:51:50.160
<v Speaker 2>movements and his business moves, they've drawn the surveillance of

0:51:50.200 --> 0:51:54.120
<v Speaker 2>the American intelligence community and the DA. He's on two radars.

0:51:54.360 --> 0:51:56.600
<v Speaker 2>So the fedger is so deep nownto his crime circle

0:51:56.680 --> 0:51:59.200
<v Speaker 2>that they have worked a mole inside who's telling them

0:51:59.239 --> 0:52:01.799
<v Speaker 2>everything about what he's doing. It was the fed's mole

0:52:01.880 --> 0:52:04.879
<v Speaker 2>who spotted the photo of Tarzan and the Russian naval

0:52:04.960 --> 0:52:07.560
<v Speaker 2>officers standing in the secret sub basse in front of

0:52:07.600 --> 0:52:11.360
<v Speaker 2>the submarine. So that picture eventually became his undoing because

0:52:11.440 --> 0:52:14.839
<v Speaker 2>the sub photo, when the mole tells the FED, oh yeah,

0:52:14.840 --> 0:52:16.520
<v Speaker 2>they're looking at a nuclear sub They're like, wait what

0:52:16.840 --> 0:52:20.399
<v Speaker 2>the FEDS go crazy about that, right, They Yeah, he's

0:52:20.440 --> 0:52:21.880
<v Speaker 2>got a photo on his desk if him in a

0:52:21.920 --> 0:52:25.000
<v Speaker 2>secret to a Soviet sub base. They're like, okay, all

0:52:25.160 --> 0:52:27.680
<v Speaker 2>all all green flags are waving now. They're throwing all

0:52:27.719 --> 0:52:29.200
<v Speaker 2>the money, all the agents they can at this.

0:52:30.040 --> 0:52:32.600
<v Speaker 3>I mean I would do that. Like, if you had

0:52:32.640 --> 0:52:35.160
<v Speaker 3>that kind of a photo, put it on your desk, right,

0:52:35.400 --> 0:52:36.280
<v Speaker 3>I put it framed?

0:52:36.360 --> 0:52:36.840
<v Speaker 2>He kidding me.

0:52:37.000 --> 0:52:39.760
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, so you said your Christmas card, Yeah.

0:52:39.719 --> 0:52:42.520
<v Speaker 2>Exactly on the front door of my house. So he

0:52:42.640 --> 0:52:45.160
<v Speaker 2>tells his handlers. The mole tells his handlers about the

0:52:45.160 --> 0:52:47.359
<v Speaker 2>sub deal. They freak out. They go and they give

0:52:47.440 --> 0:52:49.400
<v Speaker 2>him a bugged phone because they want to know everything

0:52:49.440 --> 0:52:52.040
<v Speaker 2>he's saying now, So like, here, give Tarzan this bugged phone.

0:52:52.239 --> 0:52:53.920
<v Speaker 2>The mole goes, and he does. He tells him it's

0:52:53.960 --> 0:52:56.440
<v Speaker 2>a jail broken phone that he has, and he's like, oh,

0:52:56.480 --> 0:52:57.920
<v Speaker 2>I got a bunch of these. You can now make

0:52:57.960 --> 0:53:00.719
<v Speaker 2>international calls for free. That's all tar And needs to hear.

0:53:00.760 --> 0:53:04.359
<v Speaker 2>He's like, oh, free international calls, and he starts using

0:53:04.440 --> 0:53:06.960
<v Speaker 2>the bugged phone as his primary phone call for all

0:53:07.040 --> 0:53:09.840
<v Speaker 2>of his international calls. So now the FEDS are hearing everything.

0:53:10.320 --> 0:53:12.920
<v Speaker 2>But regardless of this, in the end, it wasn't the

0:53:13.000 --> 0:53:15.960
<v Speaker 2>FEDS who stopped the sub deal. It was Tony Yester.

0:53:16.800 --> 0:53:19.320
<v Speaker 2>Because you see, Tony Yester received ten million of the

0:53:19.400 --> 0:53:21.719
<v Speaker 2>cartel's money to deliver as a down payment on the

0:53:21.840 --> 0:53:25.160
<v Speaker 2>Russian sub. Instead, he decided to not do that. He's like,

0:53:25.239 --> 0:53:27.680
<v Speaker 2>this money looks really good in Tony Yester's wallet. I

0:53:27.760 --> 0:53:29.919
<v Speaker 2>think I'm gonna keep it. So he does. He kept

0:53:29.960 --> 0:53:32.640
<v Speaker 2>the cartel's sub money. He's like, what are they gonna do?

0:53:32.719 --> 0:53:33.200
<v Speaker 3>Call a cop.

0:53:33.800 --> 0:53:36.520
<v Speaker 2>But Yester as he steals the ten million, he.

0:53:36.600 --> 0:53:38.680
<v Speaker 3>Just slips it right into his sheepskin wallet. He's just

0:53:38.760 --> 0:53:39.120
<v Speaker 3>like yeah.

0:53:39.160 --> 0:53:42.200
<v Speaker 2>He's like, ey, you gotta find Tony Yester. Remember last

0:53:42.200 --> 0:53:44.840
<v Speaker 2>time he saw him it was yesterday and today is today.

0:53:45.480 --> 0:53:47.640
<v Speaker 2>So anyway, he hides out of a friend's house. He

0:53:47.760 --> 0:53:50.279
<v Speaker 2>pays that friend ten grand to tell nobody he's there

0:53:50.320 --> 0:53:52.480
<v Speaker 2>and to stay away from the house. The friend does it,

0:53:52.600 --> 0:53:55.520
<v Speaker 2>so Tony Yester thinks he's Golden David. He was not

0:53:55.719 --> 0:53:59.040
<v Speaker 2>golden because the Cali cartels showed up in Miami on

0:53:59.120 --> 0:54:01.440
<v Speaker 2>the hunt for Tony Yes, and they're missing ten million

0:54:01.480 --> 0:54:04.840
<v Speaker 2>dollars as everybody knows they would. They found only Tarzan

0:54:04.920 --> 0:54:07.160
<v Speaker 2>and his partner in crime, Almeda, and they're like, look, look,

0:54:07.520 --> 0:54:08.920
<v Speaker 2>we don't know where he is. And they're like, come

0:54:09.000 --> 0:54:11.359
<v Speaker 2>on now, man. So the cartel like they're pumping these

0:54:11.360 --> 0:54:13.120
<v Speaker 2>guys for information. I don't know if they were tortured

0:54:13.200 --> 0:54:15.080
<v Speaker 2>or not, but anyway, these guys are on the hook

0:54:15.120 --> 0:54:17.600
<v Speaker 2>for the ten million dollars. They swear on their lives,

0:54:17.880 --> 0:54:20.160
<v Speaker 2>which make no mistake, their lives were at risk. They

0:54:20.280 --> 0:54:22.120
<v Speaker 2>swear on their lives that they had nothing to do

0:54:22.200 --> 0:54:25.200
<v Speaker 2>with Tony Yester. They don't even know where that guy is. Eventually,

0:54:25.239 --> 0:54:28.920
<v Speaker 2>the cartel believes them and somehow Tarzan and Almida they

0:54:28.960 --> 0:54:31.640
<v Speaker 2>get trusted. They get to keep their lives, and even

0:54:31.719 --> 0:54:34.560
<v Speaker 2>Tony Yester he keeps his lives. He managed to avoid

0:54:34.640 --> 0:54:37.000
<v Speaker 2>being busted by the US FEDS, who had them all

0:54:37.080 --> 0:54:41.240
<v Speaker 2>under surveillance. However, he couldn't avoid prison forever because Tarzan

0:54:41.440 --> 0:54:43.920
<v Speaker 2>and al Meeda they would eventually get locked up on

0:54:44.080 --> 0:54:47.200
<v Speaker 2>other charges down the line unrelated to the submarine deal.

0:54:47.239 --> 0:54:49.279
<v Speaker 2>They were all busted on charges related to their other

0:54:49.360 --> 0:54:51.320
<v Speaker 2>dealings with the Cali cartel and the Russian So it

0:54:51.400 --> 0:54:53.880
<v Speaker 2>turns out the cocaine was enough to bust them, So

0:54:54.360 --> 0:54:57.880
<v Speaker 2>Tarzan then flips a Almeda and his testimony puts his

0:54:57.920 --> 0:55:00.440
<v Speaker 2>little partner in crime behind bars. But then later on,

0:55:00.560 --> 0:55:04.080
<v Speaker 2>in this crazy unexpected twist, Tarzan then recants his testimony,

0:55:04.120 --> 0:55:06.440
<v Speaker 2>which then sets his buddy freeze, only he ends up

0:55:06.480 --> 0:55:10.120
<v Speaker 2>having to do the time Almighty gets released. Tarzan, mind you,

0:55:10.360 --> 0:55:12.880
<v Speaker 2>he is still alive, Dave. He served out his sentence

0:55:12.920 --> 0:55:15.600
<v Speaker 2>in America. Then for him, he did another one down

0:55:15.640 --> 0:55:17.640
<v Speaker 2>in Panama, just to see if you could get even

0:55:17.719 --> 0:55:19.680
<v Speaker 2>more right. He has not gotten more right.

0:55:20.239 --> 0:55:22.200
<v Speaker 3>Just to check out the facilities. He's like, I want

0:55:22.239 --> 0:55:23.919
<v Speaker 3>to see what Panawa has to offer.

0:55:24.000 --> 0:55:25.600
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, what's the difference. How do they do it down

0:55:25.640 --> 0:55:28.160
<v Speaker 2>here where the weather's warmer. So then eventually he goes

0:55:28.200 --> 0:55:30.359
<v Speaker 2>back home to Russia. Now, the best as I can tell,

0:55:30.440 --> 0:55:33.839
<v Speaker 2>he was last known to be living in Odessa, Ukraine, which,

0:55:34.000 --> 0:55:36.440
<v Speaker 2>as you well know from world events, is a tough

0:55:36.520 --> 0:55:38.200
<v Speaker 2>place to be right now. So I don't know if

0:55:38.239 --> 0:55:41.120
<v Speaker 2>he's still there. I'm betting not there it is. That's

0:55:41.160 --> 0:55:44.040
<v Speaker 2>the closest the cocaine cowboys ever got to getting their

0:55:44.080 --> 0:55:47.239
<v Speaker 2>own true narco sub They were so close if not

0:55:47.480 --> 0:55:50.759
<v Speaker 2>for Tony Yester. And they almost got a nuclear weapon

0:55:50.800 --> 0:55:51.279
<v Speaker 2>out of it too.

0:55:52.080 --> 0:55:54.280
<v Speaker 3>So are you saying that Tony is still at large

0:55:54.320 --> 0:55:55.400
<v Speaker 3>with the ten million.

0:55:55.239 --> 0:55:58.280
<v Speaker 2>Tony No, as far as we know, Tony Yester managed

0:55:58.280 --> 0:55:59.960
<v Speaker 2>to get away as far as I could find.

0:56:00.320 --> 0:56:03.640
<v Speaker 3>How many like that's a man, that's a whole nother podcast,

0:56:03.760 --> 0:56:06.440
<v Speaker 3>Like how many people managed to take money from the

0:56:06.480 --> 0:56:07.680
<v Speaker 3>cartel and live to.

0:56:07.719 --> 0:56:08.319
<v Speaker 2>Tell the tale?

0:56:08.880 --> 0:56:09.000
<v Speaker 5>Right?

0:56:09.440 --> 0:56:12.160
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, So what's our ridiculous takeaway? David?

0:56:12.920 --> 0:56:16.080
<v Speaker 3>Well, thank you for asking. I'm glad that that you

0:56:16.400 --> 0:56:20.040
<v Speaker 3>the game recognizes game. Yeah, tell Elizabeth for a change.

0:56:22.080 --> 0:56:24.279
<v Speaker 3>You know, I was thinking about it, and I think

0:56:24.360 --> 0:56:29.640
<v Speaker 3>it's uh that Tarzan really represents the Peter principle. The

0:56:29.680 --> 0:56:32.319
<v Speaker 3>Peter principle is like you get promoted to your level

0:56:32.400 --> 0:56:35.840
<v Speaker 3>of incompetence. He was a great muscle guy, right, Like,

0:56:36.360 --> 0:56:39.600
<v Speaker 3>he was an absolute perfect enforcer. He and and he

0:56:39.680 --> 0:56:42.040
<v Speaker 3>pulled a couple of moves and like got high up

0:56:42.120 --> 0:56:44.839
<v Speaker 3>enough in the organization and eventually he reached the place

0:56:44.880 --> 0:56:47.400
<v Speaker 3>where he needed smarter people around him and didn't have

0:56:47.560 --> 0:56:51.040
<v Speaker 3>them someone else. It's like if you had just stuck

0:56:51.080 --> 0:56:54.000
<v Speaker 3>with walking around impersonating Pablo Esquar and getting free stuff.

0:56:54.360 --> 0:56:57.839
<v Speaker 3>He probably would have been fine, but it was the career. Yeah,

0:56:58.160 --> 0:57:00.760
<v Speaker 3>that could last a lifetime, and you know, doing errands

0:57:00.760 --> 0:57:02.880
<v Speaker 3>for Escobar like all that stuff until you you know,

0:57:03.000 --> 0:57:06.239
<v Speaker 3>inevitably piss him off. But to that point he would

0:57:06.239 --> 0:57:08.200
<v Speaker 3>have been fine. It was purely like, you know what,

0:57:08.360 --> 0:57:11.719
<v Speaker 3>I'm going to try to do this like serious international

0:57:11.880 --> 0:57:13.920
<v Speaker 3>arms trade. I'm gonna try to pull off something that's

0:57:13.960 --> 0:57:17.600
<v Speaker 3>never done before. He needed a project manager, he did

0:57:17.680 --> 0:57:20.520
<v Speaker 3>an accountant. He needed these skills that he didn't have.

0:57:20.760 --> 0:57:23.000
<v Speaker 3>And that's where kind of the the criming skills just

0:57:23.120 --> 0:57:25.160
<v Speaker 3>ran out. He ran out to string totally. He needed

0:57:25.160 --> 0:57:27.760
<v Speaker 3>a business manager. He needed a fixer. He needed someone

0:57:27.800 --> 0:57:29.720
<v Speaker 3>who was a dreamer. Maybe he needed a good woman

0:57:29.800 --> 0:57:30.200
<v Speaker 3>in his life.

0:57:30.240 --> 0:57:32.479
<v Speaker 2>I don't know. But he needed a partner who cared

0:57:32.520 --> 0:57:34.240
<v Speaker 2>about him and didn't it would sit him down to

0:57:34.240 --> 0:57:36.400
<v Speaker 2>tell him the truth. It's like, look, maybe go back

0:57:36.440 --> 0:57:37.520
<v Speaker 2>to being a strip club owner.

0:57:37.640 --> 0:57:39.840
<v Speaker 3>Yeah. He also needed a like in the eighties movies.

0:57:39.880 --> 0:57:41.720
<v Speaker 3>He needed a goofy guy with a hat. He's like

0:57:41.840 --> 0:57:44.760
<v Speaker 3>your sidekick. He didn't have any of these things. Yeah,

0:57:44.760 --> 0:57:45.560
<v Speaker 3>he was missing at all.

0:57:46.000 --> 0:57:46.920
<v Speaker 2>Well what about you?

0:57:47.000 --> 0:57:49.080
<v Speaker 3>What is your ridiculous takeaway? Mister Zarin.

0:57:49.160 --> 0:57:51.080
<v Speaker 2>Oh, thank you, David. You know that's just so neat,

0:57:51.160 --> 0:57:53.920
<v Speaker 2>so orderly. I mean, boom boom oh, I love it.

0:57:54.320 --> 0:57:58.640
<v Speaker 2>My ridiculous takeaway is that how these guys get their

0:57:58.840 --> 0:58:02.680
<v Speaker 2>criminal nicknames Tarzan? I want to know how a Russian

0:58:02.800 --> 0:58:06.680
<v Speaker 2>guy gets named Tarzan? Like, was he like, you know,

0:58:07.040 --> 0:58:09.240
<v Speaker 2>was he a swinger? Was he like you know with

0:58:09.280 --> 0:58:11.240
<v Speaker 2>somebody who's like, hey, he's known to go from vine

0:58:11.280 --> 0:58:13.800
<v Speaker 2>to vine, Like, what's the deal that you get the nickname.

0:58:15.440 --> 0:58:16.040
<v Speaker 3>Long air?

0:58:16.240 --> 0:58:18.000
<v Speaker 2>He had a taste for apes. He's like, well, you know,

0:58:18.120 --> 0:58:20.240
<v Speaker 2>he always wants to go to the zoo. I'm just

0:58:20.360 --> 0:58:21.080
<v Speaker 2>curious about that.

0:58:21.440 --> 0:58:21.960
<v Speaker 3>But there you go.

0:58:22.080 --> 0:58:23.360
<v Speaker 2>That's all that's all I got for you.

0:58:23.600 --> 0:58:24.800
<v Speaker 3>So that was a great story.

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