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Speaker 1: Ridiculous Crime is a production of iHeartRadio.

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Speaker 2: Hey Dave Saren Burnett. Yeah, man, I got a note

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Speaker 2: here at a headquarters from Elizabeth. It says she's out

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Speaker 2: this week. She was apparently called into duty last minute

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Speaker 2: something for her secret society. But that's all I know

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Speaker 2: about it. So anyway, I guess it's just you and

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Speaker 2: me this week. You down, I'm down. Yeah, let's do this.

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Speaker 2: I figure we got we got this one right. So

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Speaker 2: I gotta ask you, do you know what's ridiculous? What

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Speaker 2: is it?

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Speaker 3: Why are you putting your hand out? I mean I

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Speaker 3: might know what's ridiculous?

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Speaker 2: Wait? Is this like the old shoeshine bit where I

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Speaker 2: gotta give you, like like a Hamilton a Jackson.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm saying Alexander Hamilton might know what's ridiculous?

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Speaker 2: All right, I got a Jackson on it. How about

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Speaker 2: does Jackson loosen those lips?

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Speaker 3: He might know a little bit. I don't know if

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Speaker 3: you really know.

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Speaker 2: How about a Franklin Franklin loosened them lips?

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Speaker 3: Absolutely Franklin knows what's ridiculous? All right, Franklin does it?

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Speaker 3: Thank you? Okay, Here's what's ridiculous, lad on man Cold dogs,

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Speaker 3: Like have you ever seen a dog coming out of

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Speaker 3: the of a lake and it's freezing out and it's

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Speaker 3: just like dripping with water and it just it looks

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, saddest sight there is. I thought you meant

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Speaker 2: like the opposite of hot dogs, like there's a new food.

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Speaker 2: Because I'm so trained with Elizabeth mashups, I'm like looking

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Speaker 2: for the mashup. So no, Dave, what is about a

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Speaker 2: cold dog that you find so ridiculous other than the fact, yes,

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Speaker 2: they look so sad.

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Speaker 3: Well, it's funny you would say that. I mean, because

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Speaker 3: those are ridiculous. But another kind of cold dog that's ridiculous.

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Speaker 3: Uh huh is the Oscar Meyer cold dog.

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Speaker 2: Oh my god, you did it.

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Speaker 3: The oscar Mere cold dog is a hot dog flavored

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Speaker 3: frozen pop and.

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Speaker 2: Uh huh, I'm listening. Oh I'm listening.

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Speaker 3: It visibly resembles a hot dog topped with mustard and

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Speaker 3: has quote smoky umami notes of Oscar Meyer's iconic wiener.

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Speaker 2: I can't believe you can I believe you did this

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Speaker 2: to me?

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Speaker 3: Listen? What can I say?

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Speaker 2: You know?

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Speaker 3: I really need to embody the roll. I felt like

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Speaker 3: it wouldn't be the same if I didn't give you

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Speaker 3: back the energy that you expect.

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Speaker 2: Yes, no, I see you see me, I saw I

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Speaker 2: was expecting it. I was looking for it, and I

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Speaker 2: still didn't see it coming. Damn.

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Speaker 3: So we can skip through the rest. Blah blah blah.

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Speaker 3: This came out a year ago. They made these pop shops.

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Speaker 3: You could pop up and get them. You can't get

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Speaker 3: them anymore. Sorry, rude dudes. But if you have, if

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Speaker 3: anyone out there has tried this hot dog flavored popsicle,

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Speaker 3: the Colt Dog, let us know, send us a talk back,

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Speaker 3: send us an email.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, let them know anyway. Yes, that is ridiculous. You

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Speaker 2: got me on that one. I got a hand it

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Speaker 2: to you. I got one for you. You got a second.

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Speaker 3: Sure, ain't doing nothing else?

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Speaker 2: Hey, okay, So how about a crimer who pretends to

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Speaker 2: be Pablo Escobar flies to Russia and successfully negotiates by

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Speaker 2: a Soviet era nuclear missile submarine. Wow, Dave, that's just

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Speaker 2: the tip of this weird iceberg of underwater crime. Today,

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Speaker 2: I want to talk about something called Narco subs.

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Speaker 4: Yes, this is Ridiculous Crime, A podcast about absurd and

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Speaker 4: outrageous capers heis and cons it's always ninety nine percent

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Speaker 2: One hundred percent ridiculous. What he said is true, David,

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Speaker 2: to set the stage for us today. First up, I

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Speaker 2: want to dive into see the pun underwater semi organized crime.

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Speaker 3: I see you, I see you.

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Speaker 2: All right, we'll get into the cartels in the international

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Speaker 2: mafia in a moment, But first, an American crimer with

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Speaker 2: a plan. I'd like you to meet. Matthew Piercy. The

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Speaker 2: forty four year old was a good family man, a

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Speaker 2: church going citizen of Redding, California. I don't know if

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Speaker 2: you know where that is. It's just north of my

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Speaker 2: north side, like on your way to humbold got it, Okay,

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Speaker 2: It's a big into the railroad area, so I got

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Speaker 2: a turnaround for a lot of railroads. So anyway, dude,

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Speaker 2: Matthew Piercy big in finance. He had a company called

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Speaker 2: Family Wealth Legacy, another one called Zola Financial. None of

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Speaker 2: criminal schemes involving wirefraud, mail fraud, and money laundering, a

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Speaker 2: classic trifecta anyway. According to the FBI, quote Matthew Pearce,

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Speaker 2: he raised at lease approximately thirty five million dollars from

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Speaker 2: investors through Family Wealth Legacy, Zola and Funds routed through

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Speaker 2: Company three, and paid approximately eight point eight million two investors.

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Speaker 2: Of the remaining net investment of approximately twenty six million,

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Speaker 2: few if any liquid assets remained to repay investors. In

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Speaker 2: other words, this dude conned people out of thirty five

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Speaker 2: million dollars. He spent eight point eight million to keep

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Speaker 2: the long con Ponzi scheme going, then ultimately liquidated twenty

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Speaker 2: all before the FBI caught wind of him. Now that

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Speaker 2: bad for a day's work, right, seriously? Now, this guy

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Speaker 2: primarily worked over the community. He was a member of

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Speaker 2: Never Smart, but that was his choice. He was a

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Speaker 2: conning conservative Christian Californians and their families. He had a

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Speaker 2: partner in his Ponzi scheme. Of course, he needed somebody

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Speaker 2: like this, a sixty seven year old evangelist named Ken Winton.

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Speaker 2: On his Facebook page, Winton, he calls himself quote a

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Speaker 2: god lover that's with capital G capital l like it's

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Speaker 3: What do you do for a living time? The back

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Speaker 3: of it, it's like the back of a denim jacket exactly.

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Speaker 2: You can see you like on this Yeah, totally big

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Speaker 2: patch God lover anyway. Winton he liked to offer up

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Speaker 2: empty platitudes about the importance of keeping God in one's life.

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Speaker 2: For instance, he once posted on Facebook, God has been

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Speaker 2: in the process of reconciling with humanity ever since Adam fell.

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Speaker 2: Jesus was never God's Plan B. Now I don't know

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Speaker 2: Winton's Plan B wasn't Jesus either. It wasn't even his

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Speaker 2: the name of Jesus. So he got to it, and

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Speaker 2: obviously he had Matthew Pearcy with him. The two of them,

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Speaker 2: they start working over all these eager believers. They conned

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Speaker 2: them to the tune of tens of millions of dollars. Now,

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Speaker 2: Ken Winton and Matthew Piercy, they would have gotten away

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Speaker 2: FBI agents they began sniffing around Piercy and Winton's Ponzi scheme.

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Speaker 2: purpose know that FBI agents were asking them questions that

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Speaker 2: made them nervous. Now, Piercy, he routed three million dollars

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Speaker 2: So now that he's secreted away three million dollars, he's

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Speaker 2: got his like bug out money. So by twenty twenty

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Speaker 2: grand jury subpoenas they go out to the investors in

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Speaker 2: Pierc and Winton's businesses. This leads to way more questions,

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Speaker 2: pointed questions, the kind of questions that are difficult to

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Speaker 2: email machine. Deck clack clack, clack, clack clack. He starts

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Speaker 2: sending out emails to investors to call many of their concerns.

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Speaker 2: And the emails, Dave, they said that he was in

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Speaker 2: you know that's a play.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I've tried that before. It didn't really work out.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I got so I got the President on the

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Speaker 2: about bank safety. The Federal Reserve Board asked the question,

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Speaker 2: well would happened to banks if there was a global

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Speaker 2: shock event. The unfortunate reality of the recent global financial

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Speaker 2: shock has poured rocket fuel on the urgency of this

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Speaker 2: critical situation. The only way out is for banks to

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Speaker 2: open Zola accounts and stop the bleeding. I've already sent

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Speaker 2: this letter to President Trump, and I would encourage you

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Speaker 2: to send this to President Trump as well. Here at

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Speaker 2: white House dot gov backslash contact Feel free to copy

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Speaker 2: paste or drop it in the email. Now, in light

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Speaker 2: of our emboldened focus to rescue the banking system, be

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Speaker 2: advised I anticipate potential new levels of regulatory scrutiny. If

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Speaker 2: let me know this.

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Speaker 3: point set up an email address that was an uninvolved

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Speaker 3: third party at gmail dot com. I think I still

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Speaker 3: have it. That's great, And I encourage people, like, if

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Speaker 3: just just copy me, put me in the CC line

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Speaker 3: and and I'll jump in and adjudicate for you. And

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Speaker 3: I didn't get any takers, but root, dudes, that's still

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Speaker 2: To you to offer the service, you will adjudicate.

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Speaker 3: Yes, hit me up. I mean the same way this

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Speaker 3: guy used President Trump.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, let producer Dave be your President Trump. That's what

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Speaker 2: we're saying. Well, now, out of all that stuff in

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Speaker 2: the email, this line was my favorite, the last line.

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Speaker 2: to further calm down his now panicky and suspicious investors, Piercy.

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Speaker 2: He's signed the impact of COVID and the promise of

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Speaker 2: a radical executive order by President Trump that was yet

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Speaker 2: to be issued, and I quote, as you may recall,

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Speaker 2: my firm has been a vocal proponent of an executive

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Speaker 2: order from the office of President Donald Trump that would

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Speaker 2: compel the big banks to open institutional accounts that offer

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Speaker 2: great yield and liquidity. We take the strong and unapologetic

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Speaker 2: stance that the COVID nineteen related bank losses can be

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Speaker 2: corrected and remedied by this common sense approach, which will

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Speaker 2: provide greater liquidity and yield than what the banks are

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Speaker 2: currently doing. One of the reasons you received a subpoena

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Speaker 2: spelled incorrectly might be because of our firm's bold position

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Speaker 2: and philosophy. We do not know why the government shows

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Speaker 2: the timing of this COVID nineteen pandemic to add this

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Speaker 2: stress of the subpoena to your life. Like what, oh

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Speaker 2: my god. He's like, yeah, it's COVID nineteen. We're on

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Speaker 2: the line of President Trump. I mean, I don't know

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Speaker 2: what's going on. It's these big banks, they're the problem.

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Speaker 2: We're trying to get to the bottom of this this

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Speaker 2: reason like qan non financial, and.

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Speaker 3: It's like sure, because sometimes you get unanticipated subpoenas all

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Speaker 3: the time. I'm like, you're mowing your lawn totally. All

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Speaker 3: of a sudden your email dings and it's something from

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Speaker 3: the Department of Justice.

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Speaker 2: I'm like, what, I'm not subpoena exactly. You know how

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Speaker 2: many subpoenas I got this last week. I actually have

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Speaker 3: Because David seeing in rural Rhode Island, I mean, we've

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Speaker 2: to the FBI rest complaint quote, Piercy spent some time

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Speaker 3: You know, like Sar Jared, what's this cat's personal submarine

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Speaker 2: Basically it's a joke. It looks like a lawn mower

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Speaker 3: So it's like that that that hovercraft that's in the

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Speaker 2: But technically this is considered a sea scooter. Now, I

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Speaker 2: He's like okay. Now he gets formally arrested, and now

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Speaker 3: So this was got a theory. Hold on, I've got

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Speaker 2: Totally. They didn't want to put that part of the

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Speaker 2: Well, when we're let's take a little break, Dave, and

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Speaker 2: Okay, So this is are word starting to conjure up

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Speaker 2: No, Glenn is a professional international drug smuggler, a Monday launderer,

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Speaker 2: The suspicions were warranted when the deputies found a large

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Speaker 2: deputies they promptly arrest Mussou. He gets booked at Saint

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00:19:52,960 --> 00:19:56,320
Speaker 2: Clair County Jail. Once in custody, officers actually asking Mussau

431
00:19:56,359 --> 00:19:58,439
Speaker 2: about the rented U haul truck with the large plastic

432
00:19:58,520 --> 00:20:00,800
Speaker 2: bag with the ninety seven thousand, he'd never seen and

433
00:20:00,880 --> 00:20:02,800
Speaker 2: had no idea how it got there or even whose

434
00:20:02,840 --> 00:20:05,080
Speaker 2: money it was. New Mussau, he still did not have

435
00:20:05,160 --> 00:20:06,960
Speaker 2: any good answers for the cops, so they just kept

436
00:20:07,000 --> 00:20:10,000
Speaker 2: pestering him with question after question. I don't know what happened.

437
00:20:10,040 --> 00:20:12,200
Speaker 2: I guess he got tired, because eventually he did cough

438
00:20:12,320 --> 00:20:15,040
Speaker 2: up some of the truth. So Mussau tells the deputies, Okay,

439
00:20:15,240 --> 00:20:17,840
Speaker 2: I do know where the money has come from. Turns

440
00:20:17,880 --> 00:20:21,600
Speaker 2: out it just came back from Okay, let I'll tell

441
00:20:21,640 --> 00:20:23,480
Speaker 2: you this. I am a drug smuggler. I am a

442
00:20:23,560 --> 00:20:26,040
Speaker 2: Monday lunderer. And they're like, wait, wait, wait, wait, are

443
00:20:26,080 --> 00:20:28,240
Speaker 2: you just saying all these I guess I smuggled cash

444
00:20:28,359 --> 00:20:30,119
Speaker 2: in enough of your country. And they're like, it's like,

445
00:20:30,160 --> 00:20:31,760
Speaker 2: I must have slipped my mind. I don't know when

446
00:20:31,760 --> 00:20:33,440
Speaker 2: you were asking me. I get to nervous cops, you know,

447
00:20:33,480 --> 00:20:34,160
Speaker 2: They're like, okay.

448
00:20:34,000 --> 00:20:35,480
Speaker 3: But we'll have a lot of jobs. This is just

449
00:20:35,560 --> 00:20:36,240
Speaker 3: one of many jobs.

450
00:20:36,320 --> 00:20:38,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean this is my night time job. I

451
00:20:38,040 --> 00:20:40,040
Speaker 2: thought you met my daytime job. So he suddenly he

452
00:20:40,119 --> 00:20:42,240
Speaker 2: recalls how he was trying to smuggle the money back

453
00:20:42,280 --> 00:20:44,040
Speaker 2: into Canada and he was looking for a place to

454
00:20:44,119 --> 00:20:46,159
Speaker 2: cross the border with his U haul truck with the

455
00:20:46,240 --> 00:20:48,960
Speaker 2: ninety seven thousand in it. Now, Homeland Security gets called

456
00:20:48,960 --> 00:20:51,200
Speaker 2: in because it's a border violation. Then he tried to

457
00:20:51,240 --> 00:20:54,040
Speaker 2: interview Musso, and his story gets more and more outsized

458
00:20:54,080 --> 00:20:56,800
Speaker 2: as he goes. According to the court documents I checked out,

459
00:20:56,920 --> 00:21:00,040
Speaker 2: Mussau quote explain that he runs a smuggling company and

460
00:21:00,119 --> 00:21:03,520
Speaker 2: he's serving three criminal organizations in the United States. In Canada,

461
00:21:03,880 --> 00:21:06,200
Speaker 2: He's like, I am the import to EXPORTO what you

462
00:21:06,240 --> 00:21:08,440
Speaker 2: know I do contracts. Now, the money in the U

463
00:21:08,520 --> 00:21:10,720
Speaker 2: haul that was payment for one hundred pounds of pot

464
00:21:10,760 --> 00:21:12,880
Speaker 2: that had been paid for already, and he was smuggling

465
00:21:12,960 --> 00:21:16,399
Speaker 2: the cash into Canada for the exchange. So the agents

466
00:21:16,440 --> 00:21:18,680
Speaker 2: at this point they're struck by Mussou's candor. They're like,

467
00:21:18,800 --> 00:21:21,720
Speaker 2: this guy's awesome. He's just telling us everything. So they

468
00:21:21,760 --> 00:21:23,640
Speaker 2: ask him, how are you getting the drugs into the US.

469
00:21:23,680 --> 00:21:25,640
Speaker 2: You want to, like tell us how your operation works.

470
00:21:26,040 --> 00:21:27,240
Speaker 2: So what do you think he tells him, Dave. Do

471
00:21:27,240 --> 00:21:28,160
Speaker 2: you think he tells him the truth?

472
00:21:28,520 --> 00:21:28,560
Speaker 5: No?

473
00:21:28,680 --> 00:21:31,000
Speaker 3: I don't think so. And I mean, like, I know,

474
00:21:31,440 --> 00:21:34,000
Speaker 3: you know, laws of supply and demand and everything, but

475
00:21:34,160 --> 00:21:36,720
Speaker 3: I'm kind of surprised that someone feels the need to

476
00:21:37,240 --> 00:21:39,920
Speaker 3: smuggle pot into the US, like we got plenty.

477
00:21:40,040 --> 00:21:40,240
Speaker 5: Dude.

478
00:21:40,680 --> 00:21:43,480
Speaker 2: Well, I guess apparently in the Midwest, Canadian pot is

479
00:21:43,560 --> 00:21:45,600
Speaker 2: the thing. So I'm California. I don't know about Canadian

480
00:21:45,640 --> 00:21:47,040
Speaker 2: pot me Like, I've heard about it. I know that

481
00:21:47,119 --> 00:21:48,960
Speaker 2: it exists, but I mean, like, it's not a thing

482
00:21:49,040 --> 00:21:51,240
Speaker 2: that we're like, oh, it's that good BC bud or whatever.

483
00:21:51,560 --> 00:21:53,720
Speaker 2: But I know people like in like Indiana and Illinois,

484
00:21:53,760 --> 00:21:56,960
Speaker 2: they would tell me about different Canadian strains. I was like, oh, okay,

485
00:21:57,080 --> 00:22:00,560
Speaker 2: that's your guys, is like humboled Okay cool. So anyway,

486
00:22:01,600 --> 00:22:04,639
Speaker 2: did he tell them the truth? The answer is kind

487
00:22:04,720 --> 00:22:07,159
Speaker 2: of he likes to always tell half truth. So he

488
00:22:07,280 --> 00:22:10,760
Speaker 2: tells the Homeland Security agents that the drugs and the

489
00:22:10,840 --> 00:22:13,399
Speaker 2: money either one. They would be wrapped super tightly and

490
00:22:13,480 --> 00:22:16,240
Speaker 2: then so that they were airtight and also that means

491
00:22:16,280 --> 00:22:18,959
Speaker 2: they were waterproof. So then he would pilot him submersible

492
00:22:19,240 --> 00:22:22,359
Speaker 2: called a sea Bob across the Detroit River with the

493
00:22:22,480 --> 00:22:26,080
Speaker 2: waterproof contraband in tow. Now, Dave, the sea Bob is

494
00:22:26,200 --> 00:22:28,639
Speaker 2: no sea scooter like the one I showed you before.

495
00:22:29,119 --> 00:22:32,240
Speaker 2: Now this is not like piercing his pathetic like Shasta escape. No,

496
00:22:32,520 --> 00:22:35,800
Speaker 2: the sea bob. This is a luxury submersible, just like

497
00:22:35,840 --> 00:22:37,720
Speaker 2: imagine he's slapping the hood of a sea bob like

498
00:22:37,720 --> 00:22:39,879
Speaker 2: I'm a car salesman. This bad boy will get the

499
00:22:39,960 --> 00:22:42,000
Speaker 2: job done for your average smuggler looking to move a

500
00:22:42,040 --> 00:22:44,479
Speaker 2: heavyload of contraband, my friend, what will take to get

501
00:22:44,520 --> 00:22:47,359
Speaker 2: you in a sea bub today? Now this sea bob,

502
00:22:47,440 --> 00:22:51,200
Speaker 2: it's like a sea sled. The diver lies down, they

503
00:22:51,359 --> 00:22:54,120
Speaker 2: hold it and the twin engines power the sea Bob. Dave,

504
00:22:54,240 --> 00:22:54,960
Speaker 2: it looks like this.

505
00:22:56,920 --> 00:22:59,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, see this is what I picture because there was

506
00:22:59,720 --> 00:23:02,119
Speaker 3: one of the Gi Joe guys. Huh, this was his

507
00:23:02,200 --> 00:23:05,080
Speaker 3: whole thing was like and as a kid, you wanted that.

508
00:23:05,280 --> 00:23:06,800
Speaker 3: You didn't really care about the action figure, but you

509
00:23:06,840 --> 00:23:09,800
Speaker 3: wanted that thing. Yes, exactly, this is totally action like

510
00:23:10,480 --> 00:23:11,399
Speaker 3: action kid dreams.

511
00:23:11,440 --> 00:23:12,919
Speaker 2: You're like, oh, I'll be hanging onto that and I'll

512
00:23:12,960 --> 00:23:14,840
Speaker 2: zip along and nobody can catch me. I mean it

513
00:23:15,000 --> 00:23:17,159
Speaker 2: looks like it looks like something tourists would use in

514
00:23:17,200 --> 00:23:19,399
Speaker 2: the Caribbean or Hawaii, and somehe was like, Oh, I

515
00:23:19,440 --> 00:23:21,840
Speaker 2: want to be toodling along looking at the beauty or

516
00:23:22,200 --> 00:23:25,280
Speaker 2: you know, moving one hundred pounds of pot across the border,

517
00:23:25,720 --> 00:23:27,639
Speaker 2: so our man in the sea bob moves. So he

518
00:23:27,800 --> 00:23:30,800
Speaker 2: told Homeland Security all about how he would waterproof a

519
00:23:30,880 --> 00:23:32,840
Speaker 2: load and then he'd hop on his sea bob and

520
00:23:32,880 --> 00:23:35,320
Speaker 2: he'd take his luxury sea toy for a glide across

521
00:23:35,359 --> 00:23:38,359
Speaker 2: the Detroit River. And in fact, he bragged that his

522
00:23:38,440 --> 00:23:41,479
Speaker 2: smuggling outfit had three sea bobs. He's like, hey, man,

523
00:23:41,480 --> 00:23:44,600
Speaker 2: I really an adventure resort over here. Now, facing who

524
00:23:44,720 --> 00:23:47,280
Speaker 2: knows how many years behind bars, Mussou told the Homeland

525
00:23:47,320 --> 00:23:50,080
Speaker 2: Security agents eventually all that he knew heaus he claimed

526
00:23:50,119 --> 00:23:51,880
Speaker 2: to tell them all that he knew he In fact,

527
00:23:51,960 --> 00:23:54,800
Speaker 2: he informed the FEDS that he was down to cooperate

528
00:23:54,920 --> 00:23:57,240
Speaker 2: with them. For instance, he told them about a big

529
00:23:57,440 --> 00:23:59,800
Speaker 2: meth shipment that he had scheduled for the next day,

530
00:24:00,000 --> 00:24:01,399
Speaker 2: and he said, if you guys want to pop in,

531
00:24:02,000 --> 00:24:03,959
Speaker 2: I could arrange that's for you. You know, you can

532
00:24:04,040 --> 00:24:07,120
Speaker 2: meet some more from my organization. So the FEDS are like, oh, okay.

533
00:24:07,200 --> 00:24:08,920
Speaker 2: It's like, well, you'll need to make up your minds quickly.

534
00:24:09,000 --> 00:24:10,879
Speaker 2: It's tomorrow. So the FEDS are like, okay, let's think

535
00:24:10,880 --> 00:24:12,680
Speaker 2: about it. They talk to their bosses or whatever. The

536
00:24:12,760 --> 00:24:17,080
Speaker 2: FEDS are like, it's a go. So the they release Muso, right,

537
00:24:17,160 --> 00:24:19,239
Speaker 2: but first before they get ready to do that, they're like, well,

538
00:24:19,480 --> 00:24:21,199
Speaker 2: we need to see your cell phones, right, So they

539
00:24:21,280 --> 00:24:22,560
Speaker 2: kind of want to tag his stuff and they want

540
00:24:22,600 --> 00:24:24,400
Speaker 2: to see what he has. So he agrees, he lets

541
00:24:24,440 --> 00:24:26,680
Speaker 2: them search his two cell phones. The Feds they crack

542
00:24:26,760 --> 00:24:28,760
Speaker 2: open his cell phones and they read all that their

543
00:24:28,800 --> 00:24:32,200
Speaker 2: eyes can behold. They found texts, exchanges, chats between criminal confederates,

544
00:24:32,320 --> 00:24:36,040
Speaker 2: GPS coordinates. They're writing all of this down planned drug exchanges.

545
00:24:36,280 --> 00:24:39,080
Speaker 2: There's also discussion of making a drone submarine that could

546
00:24:39,080 --> 00:24:41,240
Speaker 2: attach to the bottom of an ocean going ship and

547
00:24:41,280 --> 00:24:44,040
Speaker 2: take a ride to Europe where smugglers, but then dislodge

548
00:24:44,080 --> 00:24:45,920
Speaker 2: it and collect the coke that was inside.

549
00:24:46,480 --> 00:24:46,920
Speaker 3: I love it.

550
00:24:47,080 --> 00:24:49,280
Speaker 2: Right, this phone was a wealth of information for the FEDS.

551
00:24:49,320 --> 00:24:51,160
Speaker 2: They're like, I didn't even know about this. This is amazing.

552
00:24:51,200 --> 00:24:52,840
Speaker 2: Thanks the story. He's like, oh, on the problem, I

553
00:24:53,000 --> 00:24:55,480
Speaker 2: tell you. We have partners now, right, So they're like, okay, Musso,

554
00:24:55,520 --> 00:24:57,840
Speaker 2: we're gonna cut you loose, go make that meth deal.

555
00:24:57,880 --> 00:24:59,399
Speaker 2: Call us in the morning and we'll be there for

556
00:24:59,440 --> 00:25:02,080
Speaker 2: the raid. Right. Who's like, oh, well, yes, of course,

557
00:25:02,640 --> 00:25:05,320
Speaker 2: so he cuts this deal. They release him, he goes

558
00:25:05,400 --> 00:25:08,080
Speaker 2: to make a scheduled meth deal. And that is what

559
00:25:08,359 --> 00:25:11,720
Speaker 2: we in the storytelling industry, David, we call a bonehead decision.

560
00:25:11,880 --> 00:25:15,240
Speaker 2: Because Musseau was released and checked into a local hotel,

561
00:25:15,320 --> 00:25:18,040
Speaker 2: but there was no meth deal the next day. That

562
00:25:18,400 --> 00:25:21,200
Speaker 2: was what we call a I Now he was in

563
00:25:21,400 --> 00:25:24,200
Speaker 2: the Beymont Hotel in Flat Rock, Michigan. The desk clerk

564
00:25:24,320 --> 00:25:27,240
Speaker 2: remembered him well. Apparently he made a memorable impression. The

565
00:25:27,280 --> 00:25:29,840
Speaker 2: desk clerk later with tell authorities that Mussau said he

566
00:25:29,960 --> 00:25:31,359
Speaker 2: was going to dip out for a bit because he

567
00:25:31,400 --> 00:25:33,800
Speaker 2: needed to attend a family funeral. That was his plans

568
00:25:33,840 --> 00:25:38,200
Speaker 2: to cover Skipping town. So around three am, security cambridge

569
00:25:38,200 --> 00:25:40,520
Speaker 2: footage from the hotel shows Mussau walk out of the

570
00:25:40,600 --> 00:25:42,520
Speaker 2: hotel and then once he's free at the hotel that

571
00:25:42,680 --> 00:25:44,760
Speaker 2: three hours later, around six am, he phones the front

572
00:25:44,800 --> 00:25:47,159
Speaker 2: desk and he says, oh, yes, I talked to you earlier.

573
00:25:47,440 --> 00:25:49,680
Speaker 2: Well I have I've left suddenly. As I told you,

574
00:25:50,000 --> 00:25:52,480
Speaker 2: I'd like you to go and get off of my

575
00:25:52,560 --> 00:25:54,760
Speaker 2: belongings in my room. Gather them up, pack them up,

576
00:25:54,760 --> 00:25:56,760
Speaker 2: and I will send somebody over to pick them up later.

577
00:25:56,960 --> 00:25:58,920
Speaker 2: They're like yeah, yeah, sure, no problem. They make a note.

578
00:25:59,160 --> 00:26:02,399
Speaker 2: Later that same Homeland Security they show up looking for

579
00:26:02,520 --> 00:26:04,560
Speaker 2: Musso they're like, hey, where's the guy in like whatever

580
00:26:04,640 --> 00:26:06,480
Speaker 2: three seventeen. They're like, oh, he checked out. What do

581
00:26:06,480 --> 00:26:08,040
Speaker 2: you mean he checked out? They're like, oh, you know,

582
00:26:08,240 --> 00:26:10,160
Speaker 2: be his room. So they're like, well, did he leave anything.

583
00:26:10,200 --> 00:26:12,440
Speaker 2: They're like, oh, yeah, he abandoned it. So they consider

584
00:26:12,560 --> 00:26:14,560
Speaker 2: I don't know if the note wasn't passed. The hotel

585
00:26:14,640 --> 00:26:17,440
Speaker 2: decides that since he left his stuff, it's been abandoned

586
00:26:17,480 --> 00:26:19,040
Speaker 2: and they handed over to Homeland Security.

587
00:26:19,359 --> 00:26:22,119
Speaker 3: Or they're just like nope, I read that. I'm not

588
00:26:22,240 --> 00:26:22,480
Speaker 3: doing it.

589
00:26:22,600 --> 00:26:26,119
Speaker 2: Yeah exactly. I think that is probably more accurate. Hotel

590
00:26:26,160 --> 00:26:28,840
Speaker 2: Sef's like, I'm not getting involved. That's his Homeland Security buddy,

591
00:26:28,920 --> 00:26:32,080
Speaker 2: so sorry, we're a little motel. So in his belongings

592
00:26:32,119 --> 00:26:34,960
Speaker 2: the Homeland Security agents they find five more cell phones

593
00:26:35,400 --> 00:26:37,560
Speaker 2: and he had a hole make a new identity kit.

594
00:26:38,080 --> 00:26:41,159
Speaker 2: In this it consisted of a stolen Canadian passport, an

595
00:26:41,240 --> 00:26:45,320
Speaker 2: Ontario temporary driver's license, and a Burth certificate. There was

596
00:26:45,440 --> 00:26:48,400
Speaker 2: also a dry suit that's like a like a suit

597
00:26:48,440 --> 00:26:51,560
Speaker 2: for diving. It's like a wetsuit, but instead the body

598
00:26:51,640 --> 00:26:53,840
Speaker 2: is designed to stay dry, as opposed to a wetsuit

599
00:26:53,840 --> 00:26:55,160
Speaker 2: where the bodies designed to get wet.

600
00:26:55,280 --> 00:26:57,960
Speaker 3: Right, can I just instead pretend that it's a suit

601
00:26:58,080 --> 00:26:59,680
Speaker 3: so that if you have a lot of flop sweat,

602
00:27:00,160 --> 00:27:01,879
Speaker 3: just wix it off of you. So if you're going

603
00:27:01,960 --> 00:27:05,280
Speaker 3: to you doing crimes, you're not uncomfortable exactly your super

604
00:27:05,359 --> 00:27:05,800
Speaker 3: dry suit.

605
00:27:06,160 --> 00:27:08,000
Speaker 2: I like that idea. I need to get a tailor.

606
00:27:08,200 --> 00:27:11,200
Speaker 2: So anyway, he Musseau. He had left his new fake

607
00:27:11,280 --> 00:27:13,840
Speaker 2: identity behind, right, so what's he gonna do now? He

608
00:27:13,960 --> 00:27:16,240
Speaker 2: still needs to cross the border to get back into Canada.

609
00:27:16,320 --> 00:27:19,359
Speaker 2: He can't do it semi legitimately now, so he's like, oh,

610
00:27:19,720 --> 00:27:23,000
Speaker 2: I know the way. On June fifth, at around two

611
00:27:23,160 --> 00:27:25,400
Speaker 2: thirty five in the morning, agents from the US Border

612
00:27:25,440 --> 00:27:29,399
Speaker 2: Patrol they spot this suspicious vessel in international boundary waters.

613
00:27:29,800 --> 00:27:32,880
Speaker 2: It's a high speed boat making a high speed late

614
00:27:33,000 --> 00:27:35,800
Speaker 2: night crossing. Right now, they know this is not just

615
00:27:35,880 --> 00:27:39,200
Speaker 2: some normal pleasure seekers out just like zipping along in

616
00:27:39,240 --> 00:27:41,480
Speaker 2: their donzie. They're like, no, no, this has to be

617
00:27:41,560 --> 00:27:43,760
Speaker 2: crimers making a run for it. So the border patrols

618
00:27:43,840 --> 00:27:47,080
Speaker 2: give chase. They attempt a high speed boat chase right

619
00:27:47,440 --> 00:27:49,880
Speaker 2: on the Detroit River. The Border Patrol agents they find

620
00:27:49,920 --> 00:27:53,040
Speaker 2: that they they're they cannot get close enough. They're closing distance,

621
00:27:53,080 --> 00:27:54,800
Speaker 2: but this high speed boat is way too fast. It's

622
00:27:54,840 --> 00:27:57,600
Speaker 2: at night, and they had got binoculars. They're looking at him,

623
00:27:58,119 --> 00:27:59,960
Speaker 2: and they noticed one of the guys with the monoca

624
00:28:00,200 --> 00:28:02,560
Speaker 2: They notice two large bundles go over the side of

625
00:28:02,640 --> 00:28:05,119
Speaker 2: the speedboat. So some of the agents they peel off

626
00:28:05,160 --> 00:28:07,000
Speaker 2: the speedboat chase and they go to fish out the

627
00:28:07,040 --> 00:28:09,560
Speaker 2: two large bundles, and what do they find. They also

628
00:28:09,600 --> 00:28:13,560
Speaker 2: find an unconscious Mussou. He's just floating there in the

629
00:28:13,640 --> 00:28:16,680
Speaker 2: Detroit River, kaoed by like the head slap to the water,

630
00:28:16,760 --> 00:28:19,320
Speaker 2: I'm guessing, or maybe he was kaoed by the two

631
00:28:19,400 --> 00:28:21,960
Speaker 2: large bundles themselves, which turned out to be two hundred

632
00:28:21,960 --> 00:28:23,639
Speaker 2: and sixty five pounds of marijuana.

633
00:28:24,359 --> 00:28:26,560
Speaker 3: Now, maybe he just had too much Little Caesar's crazy

634
00:28:26,600 --> 00:28:29,040
Speaker 3: bread and it just just totally blew up. His system

635
00:28:29,840 --> 00:28:32,080
Speaker 3: just backed up on him. He's like, uh, I'm gonna

636
00:28:32,080 --> 00:28:34,280
Speaker 3: get carbo loading. I'm gonna take a little nap, little

637
00:28:34,359 --> 00:28:37,200
Speaker 3: Mussou nipe. So he has these two hundred and sixty

638
00:28:37,240 --> 00:28:39,880
Speaker 3: five pounds of marijuana like two floaties attached to his

639
00:28:40,040 --> 00:28:42,600
Speaker 3: arms and they keep him afloat right in time for

640
00:28:42,640 --> 00:28:44,520
Speaker 3: the border patrol agents to just fish him out of

641
00:28:44,560 --> 00:28:47,680
Speaker 3: the water. He gets promptly rearrested, charged on a whole

642
00:28:47,760 --> 00:28:50,480
Speaker 3: bevy of new charges. Now he tries to get back

643
00:28:50,520 --> 00:28:52,720
Speaker 3: with his previous attempt at cooperating with the FELD.

644
00:28:52,760 --> 00:28:54,880
Speaker 2: He's like, no, remember before when I said that would cooperate,

645
00:28:54,960 --> 00:28:56,120
Speaker 2: So let's talk about that some more.

646
00:28:56,240 --> 00:28:56,400
Speaker 3: Huh.

647
00:28:56,640 --> 00:28:59,240
Speaker 2: They're like, no, man, no, come on, Mussau. What with

648
00:28:59,320 --> 00:29:02,680
Speaker 2: the river. He's like, oh, that's just fair. So he

649
00:29:02,760 --> 00:29:05,640
Speaker 2: pleads guilty. The POD charges unlawful entry into US. He

650
00:29:05,760 --> 00:29:08,400
Speaker 2: receives seventy one months in federal prison.

651
00:29:09,640 --> 00:29:13,880
Speaker 3: This maybe, yeah, Like I'm I'm doubling down that I

652
00:29:13,960 --> 00:29:17,280
Speaker 3: think this guy is probably the worst criminal we've had on,

653
00:29:17,440 --> 00:29:20,120
Speaker 3: like the least competent criminal that we've had on.

654
00:29:20,360 --> 00:29:23,360
Speaker 2: Yes, he's he has been like he just constantly gets busted,

655
00:29:23,480 --> 00:29:26,000
Speaker 2: just constantly thinks like what if I flip on everybody

656
00:29:26,080 --> 00:29:26,280
Speaker 2: I know?

657
00:29:27,400 --> 00:29:28,960
Speaker 3: And that like you're gonna get one over. Like I

658
00:29:29,040 --> 00:29:31,760
Speaker 3: love the idea that his little mind is going and

659
00:29:31,840 --> 00:29:34,120
Speaker 3: going and going and he's thinking like okay, So they

660
00:29:34,280 --> 00:29:37,040
Speaker 3: like when I cooperate. If I give them something really big,

661
00:29:37,440 --> 00:29:39,600
Speaker 3: then that will help me out a lot. So here,

662
00:29:39,600 --> 00:29:41,200
Speaker 3: I'm gonna give him some really big and then like

663
00:29:41,320 --> 00:29:44,120
Speaker 3: he walks away, like, well, now I have to fabricate

664
00:29:44,200 --> 00:29:46,960
Speaker 3: an entire massive drug deal to get them the show up.

665
00:29:47,200 --> 00:29:49,040
Speaker 3: Like what's going through his mind that night? Is he

666
00:29:49,160 --> 00:29:51,360
Speaker 3: just like does he start thinking maybe he's gonna try

667
00:29:51,400 --> 00:29:53,080
Speaker 3: to concoct it and then give up, or is he

668
00:29:53,200 --> 00:29:54,600
Speaker 3: just like I'm running for the border Now.

669
00:29:54,760 --> 00:29:56,640
Speaker 2: I think he's just making like a run for the border,

670
00:29:56,720 --> 00:29:58,680
Speaker 2: like it's Taco bell. I think he's like, look, I'm

671
00:29:58,760 --> 00:30:01,000
Speaker 2: out of here. I'm taking my tones pounds of pot

672
00:30:01,040 --> 00:30:03,000
Speaker 2: and I'm hoping i can start a new life in Montreal.

673
00:30:04,040 --> 00:30:09,640
Speaker 2: Dear lord, Yeah, now you reacted to the submarine attached

674
00:30:09,680 --> 00:30:12,520
Speaker 2: to the bottom of the boat, right now, Yeah, those

675
00:30:12,520 --> 00:30:15,080
Speaker 2: are That's called parasites smuggling. And I looked into this.

676
00:30:15,720 --> 00:30:18,560
Speaker 2: Now this it's not the practice of sneaking bloodsucking insects

677
00:30:18,600 --> 00:30:21,680
Speaker 2: over the border. Nope. This is parasite smuggling is an adjective.

678
00:30:21,720 --> 00:30:24,120
Speaker 2: It's it is a growing trend, and it's now actually

679
00:30:24,120 --> 00:30:26,920
Speaker 2: almost big business, not quite but almost. It's what the

680
00:30:27,040 --> 00:30:30,320
Speaker 2: FEDS found on Mussau's phone was plans for a drone

681
00:30:30,440 --> 00:30:32,560
Speaker 2: vessel that would attach to the bottom of a ship. Now,

682
00:30:32,800 --> 00:30:35,160
Speaker 2: the drone vessel was gonna have these powerful magnets that

683
00:30:35,200 --> 00:30:38,080
Speaker 2: could just snap it attached and then they could be

684
00:30:38,280 --> 00:30:39,880
Speaker 2: released and then all of a sudden you could just

685
00:30:40,000 --> 00:30:42,280
Speaker 2: float it away. It could then putt putt over to

686
00:30:42,440 --> 00:30:44,720
Speaker 2: some people in a waiting boat somewhere else in the harbor.

687
00:30:44,760 --> 00:30:47,080
Speaker 2: They pull it out of the water and they float away.

688
00:30:47,560 --> 00:30:48,800
Speaker 2: Brilliant plan, right.

689
00:30:48,840 --> 00:30:51,240
Speaker 3: Sounds like a new San Francisco startup, Like they're gonna

690
00:30:51,240 --> 00:30:51,920
Speaker 3: start selling that.

691
00:30:52,040 --> 00:30:56,640
Speaker 2: As a taxi service, getting people across the seas super cheap,

692
00:30:57,320 --> 00:31:00,520
Speaker 2: so no parasite smuggling, organized criminals. They love it. But

693
00:31:00,600 --> 00:31:03,280
Speaker 2: they have to use scuba divers to attach the cocaine

694
00:31:03,320 --> 00:31:05,960
Speaker 2: stashes to the ocean going container ships and they're usually

695
00:31:06,000 --> 00:31:07,800
Speaker 2: they're headed to Europe. That's always the questions, like how

696
00:31:07,840 --> 00:31:10,320
Speaker 2: do we get this stuff through European customs? Now the

697
00:31:10,360 --> 00:31:14,240
Speaker 2: stashes once again I said, they're secreted into torpedo shaped

698
00:31:14,320 --> 00:31:18,440
Speaker 2: containers and then they're not always attached by magnets. Other

699
00:31:18,520 --> 00:31:20,520
Speaker 2: times they are welded to the bottom and then that

700
00:31:20,600 --> 00:31:25,000
Speaker 2: requires underwater welders and divers. So you're getting into complicated

701
00:31:25,680 --> 00:31:28,400
Speaker 2: operations now, well, I'll give you an example of one.

702
00:31:28,480 --> 00:31:30,960
Speaker 2: Back in twenty thirteen, there was a French smuggling ring

703
00:31:31,080 --> 00:31:33,600
Speaker 2: that had been using this tactic to pardon the pun

704
00:31:33,760 --> 00:31:38,080
Speaker 2: swimming success. Now they'd attached eight long, eight foot torpedo

705
00:31:38,160 --> 00:31:41,560
Speaker 2: shaped containers in South America to European bound cargo ships.

706
00:31:41,760 --> 00:31:44,680
Speaker 2: Their operation was only discovered by happenstance and a bit

707
00:31:44,720 --> 00:31:47,640
Speaker 2: of dumb luck. The French port police from the Port

708
00:31:47,720 --> 00:31:50,440
Speaker 2: of False sux Mer they were doing a patrol when

709
00:31:50,440 --> 00:31:53,280
Speaker 2: they spotted this strange site. There's toodling around the harbor

710
00:31:53,640 --> 00:31:55,960
Speaker 2: on like an underwater scooter were a pair of divers.

711
00:31:56,280 --> 00:31:59,360
Speaker 2: They followed the diver's progress, but rather than bust the divers,

712
00:31:59,400 --> 00:32:01,680
Speaker 2: they decided to track them. So it turns out one

713
00:32:01,760 --> 00:32:04,520
Speaker 2: of the divers was the mastermind of a big bank

714
00:32:04,600 --> 00:32:06,720
Speaker 2: high so we should probably cover the Bank of France

715
00:32:06,720 --> 00:32:09,520
Speaker 2: heist from nineteen ninety two. So they follow this cat

716
00:32:09,720 --> 00:32:11,760
Speaker 2: and that way they can both bust his whole operation.

717
00:32:12,320 --> 00:32:15,480
Speaker 2: The port police learned the smuggling operation was super advanced

718
00:32:15,520 --> 00:32:18,080
Speaker 2: and high tech. The torpedo stash it would be attached

719
00:32:18,080 --> 00:32:20,200
Speaker 2: to the cargo ship hole, as they said, with powerful magnets,

720
00:32:20,320 --> 00:32:23,040
Speaker 2: then they could spot weld it. Otherwise these guys were

721
00:32:23,080 --> 00:32:26,080
Speaker 2: using magnets. They're like, oh, this is incredible. Right now

722
00:32:26,600 --> 00:32:28,440
Speaker 2: the other designs I told you where they have the

723
00:32:28,720 --> 00:32:30,960
Speaker 2: spot welding. That obviously is a little bit more difficult.

724
00:32:31,040 --> 00:32:34,040
Speaker 2: But either way, what always is a question is is

725
00:32:34,160 --> 00:32:36,400
Speaker 2: you know if you want to get it across the Atlantic.

726
00:32:36,440 --> 00:32:39,600
Speaker 2: The smugglers, if they attach it to a big ocean

727
00:32:39,640 --> 00:32:42,640
Speaker 2: going container ship, they can now just watch their progress

728
00:32:42,720 --> 00:32:44,480
Speaker 2: on open source ship tracking apps.

729
00:32:44,840 --> 00:32:45,680
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, and.

730
00:32:45,720 --> 00:32:47,760
Speaker 2: They know exactly when the ship gets there. There's no

731
00:32:47,840 --> 00:32:49,280
Speaker 2: more guests work, they don't have to have a spot

732
00:32:49,360 --> 00:32:51,360
Speaker 2: or sitting at the harbor. There's no bribes, they don't

733
00:32:51,360 --> 00:32:54,840
Speaker 2: have to bribe the ship's captain, nobody, none of the

734
00:32:54,920 --> 00:32:57,240
Speaker 2: seamen board, nothing. They just do it open source now

735
00:32:57,280 --> 00:32:59,000
Speaker 2: and then they wait. They get real time updates, they

736
00:32:59,080 --> 00:33:01,760
Speaker 2: show up for the progress they's smuggled shipment, and then boom,

737
00:33:01,840 --> 00:33:04,480
Speaker 2: ship reaches harbor. Smugglers take a little go fast boat

738
00:33:04,560 --> 00:33:06,320
Speaker 2: or a dinghy or maybe even a john boat out

739
00:33:06,560 --> 00:33:09,760
Speaker 2: and then they just drop the parasite subout and then boom. Done.

740
00:33:09,840 --> 00:33:12,520
Speaker 3: Deal Now sometimes they just they'd crack that thing open

741
00:33:12,600 --> 00:33:14,600
Speaker 3: right there. They're like, you know what, we deserve a reward.

742
00:33:14,840 --> 00:33:17,600
Speaker 3: They just like bust over a torpedo. Yeah, just take

743
00:33:17,640 --> 00:33:20,080
Speaker 3: a few sniffs, like an eighties an eighties cop show.

744
00:33:20,080 --> 00:33:21,920
Speaker 3: They're cut that bag open. See if this is the

745
00:33:21,960 --> 00:33:22,440
Speaker 3: good stuff?

746
00:33:22,760 --> 00:33:23,240
Speaker 4: Oh boy?

747
00:33:23,960 --> 00:33:27,920
Speaker 2: Now, in reality, theirs the typical submarine stash. It does

748
00:33:28,040 --> 00:33:30,400
Speaker 2: not be saying detach on her own and neatly pilot

749
00:33:30,440 --> 00:33:33,080
Speaker 2: away as the Musseau and these guys had planned. Usually

750
00:33:33,160 --> 00:33:34,840
Speaker 2: divers have to go down, they have to hand release

751
00:33:34,880 --> 00:33:35,240
Speaker 2: the stash.

752
00:33:35,360 --> 00:33:35,479
Speaker 5: Well.

753
00:33:35,920 --> 00:33:38,880
Speaker 2: The problem is is working at night in a harbor

754
00:33:39,280 --> 00:33:42,800
Speaker 2: is dark, dangerous work. We were talking oily murky waters.

755
00:33:42,880 --> 00:33:46,600
Speaker 2: Divers often die doing this. So the cartels they can't

756
00:33:46,720 --> 00:33:50,080
Speaker 2: just throw in like some random flunkies with an oxygen

757
00:33:50,160 --> 00:33:51,960
Speaker 2: tank and say have at it. Boys. They have to

758
00:33:52,080 --> 00:33:54,160
Speaker 2: go and as I said, hire the best divers they can.

759
00:33:54,400 --> 00:33:57,720
Speaker 2: So they end up hiring world class divers for instance,

760
00:33:59,400 --> 00:34:04,520
Speaker 2: exactly like there's this dude, Matthew Maddie thunder Hotter. He

761
00:34:04,680 --> 00:34:08,560
Speaker 2: was an Australian stripper and a world class diver. Yes,

762
00:34:09,000 --> 00:34:12,280
Speaker 2: really interesting guy. He gets busted on drug possession charges

763
00:34:12,280 --> 00:34:15,200
Speaker 2: after he attempted a risky dive to retrieve ninety one

764
00:34:15,360 --> 00:34:18,120
Speaker 2: kilos of cocaine from the Spirit of Auckland while it

765
00:34:18,160 --> 00:34:20,279
Speaker 2: was at anchor in a place called Port Chalmers. He

766
00:34:20,400 --> 00:34:23,520
Speaker 2: got busted and so Maddie thundered down under. He's just

767
00:34:23,640 --> 00:34:26,160
Speaker 2: one of the many world class divers who've been seduced

768
00:34:26,160 --> 00:34:27,960
Speaker 2: away from their life as well, in his case, a

769
00:34:28,040 --> 00:34:30,799
Speaker 2: male stripper and world class diver. And now they're like, oh,

770
00:34:30,840 --> 00:34:33,399
Speaker 2: I got to respond to the siren call of organized crime.

771
00:34:33,480 --> 00:34:35,920
Speaker 2: It just pays so well because most of the time

772
00:34:36,400 --> 00:34:38,120
Speaker 2: these guys are getting away with it. And when they

773
00:34:38,160 --> 00:34:40,520
Speaker 2: do get busted, yes, things and get real bad, real quick,

774
00:34:40,880 --> 00:34:42,520
Speaker 2: and that is if you don't die doing it. But

775
00:34:42,719 --> 00:34:44,800
Speaker 2: most of the time it works for them, so you

776
00:34:44,880 --> 00:34:46,160
Speaker 2: can see why they would do it.

777
00:34:46,640 --> 00:34:48,600
Speaker 3: But yeah, and these guys they probably want to be

778
00:34:48,760 --> 00:34:51,480
Speaker 3: like diving in old sunken ships and like finding gold

779
00:34:51,520 --> 00:34:53,040
Speaker 3: and stuff, you know, like that's why they get into

780
00:34:53,080 --> 00:34:55,000
Speaker 3: the biz. And this is kind of like that exactly.

781
00:34:55,360 --> 00:34:57,200
Speaker 2: It's and it's you know, it's a lot of fun

782
00:34:57,280 --> 00:34:59,400
Speaker 2: and adventure and it seems like kind of dangerous and

783
00:34:59,440 --> 00:35:01,200
Speaker 2: you feel like, oh, you're in like some kind of

784
00:35:01,360 --> 00:35:03,440
Speaker 2: like you know crime movie. They're like, oh, I'm going

785
00:35:03,440 --> 00:35:04,920
Speaker 2: to get a night down to the French harbor to

786
00:35:05,000 --> 00:35:07,360
Speaker 2: dive in and you know, swim underneath a ship and

787
00:35:07,440 --> 00:35:10,480
Speaker 2: detach cocaine. I mean, like, come on, as cool as hell. Yeah, yeah,

788
00:35:10,480 --> 00:35:12,320
Speaker 2: it seems cool as hell until you're arrested. Then you

789
00:35:12,400 --> 00:35:13,960
Speaker 2: hear it read back to you. You're like, okay, that

790
00:35:14,080 --> 00:35:16,160
Speaker 2: that doesn't sound good when you say it. It sounded

791
00:35:16,200 --> 00:35:18,719
Speaker 2: better in my head. Anyway, Dave, let's take a little

792
00:35:18,719 --> 00:35:21,000
Speaker 2: break and after this we'll get to the wildest story yet.

793
00:35:21,080 --> 00:35:23,960
Speaker 2: I promised you Narco subs were getting Narco subs, and

794
00:35:24,040 --> 00:35:26,920
Speaker 2: this time Pablo Escobar he tries to buy a nuclear

795
00:35:26,960 --> 00:35:50,680
Speaker 2: submarine from the Soviet Union. Yes, okay, Dave, we're back.

796
00:35:51,040 --> 00:35:52,160
Speaker 3: How that happened? Where'd we go?

797
00:35:52,440 --> 00:35:55,200
Speaker 2: I know it? Just warm, delicious ads. Did those feel

798
00:35:55,200 --> 00:35:56,440
Speaker 2: good for you? They felt great for me.

799
00:35:56,760 --> 00:35:59,440
Speaker 3: The ads were like a pillow under my lumbar area

800
00:35:59,640 --> 00:36:02,759
Speaker 3: and just it's like under my neck, a beautiful slumber.

801
00:36:02,520 --> 00:36:05,040
Speaker 2: And the cool side of the pillow. No, less, that's right.

802
00:36:05,080 --> 00:36:06,880
Speaker 2: Now you're ready to talk about the dream of the

803
00:36:07,000 --> 00:36:08,360
Speaker 2: true Narco submarine.

804
00:36:08,760 --> 00:36:10,879
Speaker 3: I'll say this with no lie. I am as ready

805
00:36:10,920 --> 00:36:11,560
Speaker 3: as I will ever.

806
00:36:11,520 --> 00:36:14,279
Speaker 2: Be okay now first, because I want you picturing the

807
00:36:14,400 --> 00:36:19,160
Speaker 2: right thing. We're talking real, actual, factual submarines. Now, do

808
00:36:19,239 --> 00:36:21,080
Speaker 2: you know about the history of Columbia trying to get

809
00:36:21,080 --> 00:36:24,239
Speaker 2: a cocaine sub fleet going? I do not this ever

810
00:36:24,280 --> 00:36:26,399
Speaker 2: come up and you're reading now okay, to be clear,

811
00:36:26,760 --> 00:36:29,759
Speaker 2: not the country of Columbia, but rather the cocaine cartels

812
00:36:29,760 --> 00:36:32,520
Speaker 2: of Columbia at one time. The cartels they wanted to

813
00:36:32,600 --> 00:36:34,319
Speaker 2: have their own navy. They're like, you know what would

814
00:36:34,320 --> 00:36:36,400
Speaker 2: be great is we had our own boats, but not boats.

815
00:36:36,480 --> 00:36:40,040
Speaker 2: We want submarines, something for under the sea. Because this dream,

816
00:36:41,080 --> 00:36:42,719
Speaker 2: it remained a dream for a long time but has

817
00:36:42,840 --> 00:36:45,360
Speaker 2: since been realized, but never like in the true like

818
00:36:45,600 --> 00:36:48,719
Speaker 2: Tom Clancy style Hunt for the coc October.

819
00:36:49,040 --> 00:36:49,080
Speaker 5: No.

820
00:36:49,560 --> 00:36:52,960
Speaker 2: Instead, real coke subs have been kind of embarrassing thus far,

821
00:36:53,120 --> 00:36:56,200
Speaker 2: especially as an effort from basically a multi billion dollar industry.

822
00:36:56,239 --> 00:36:58,160
Speaker 2: I mean the cocaine people. They got money. They can

823
00:36:58,239 --> 00:37:00,640
Speaker 2: throw it at their R and D. But anyway, before

824
00:37:00,640 --> 00:37:03,440
Speaker 2: we get to Pablo Bascobar and his Soviet era missile

825
00:37:03,480 --> 00:37:05,320
Speaker 2: sub first, I'd like to take you into the Eastern

826
00:37:05,360 --> 00:37:08,800
Speaker 2: Pacific Ocean a board a coastguard cutter. And to do that,

827
00:37:09,280 --> 00:37:12,320
Speaker 2: I would like you to close your eyes, and David,

828
00:37:12,600 --> 00:37:13,560
Speaker 2: I'd like you to picture it.

829
00:37:14,560 --> 00:37:16,759
Speaker 3: My eyes are closed. I'm opening a course cutter too.

830
00:37:18,760 --> 00:37:21,719
Speaker 2: The year is twenty eighteen, the month is June, and you, Dave,

831
00:37:21,800 --> 00:37:25,239
Speaker 2: are aboard the Coastguard cutter Monroe. As it slices through

832
00:37:25,320 --> 00:37:28,399
Speaker 2: the open ocean waves, it rises and then slams down.

833
00:37:28,520 --> 00:37:31,960
Speaker 2: After each wave's lift, sea spray splashes against your cheeks,

834
00:37:32,160 --> 00:37:36,239
Speaker 2: wetting your face in a semi regular rhythm. Dave, you

835
00:37:36,640 --> 00:37:38,200
Speaker 2: are a Coastguard cadet.

836
00:37:38,760 --> 00:37:40,279
Speaker 3: This is your is a dream come true.

837
00:37:40,400 --> 00:37:43,040
Speaker 2: This is your first big mission at sea. Good luck seamen.

838
00:37:43,280 --> 00:37:45,040
Speaker 2: Oh wait, that's the Navy. Sorry I should say good

839
00:37:45,120 --> 00:37:49,239
Speaker 2: luck guardsman. Anyway, your vote is not out on a patrol, no, sir,

840
00:37:49,440 --> 00:37:51,719
Speaker 2: you are on the hunt. You've been coordinating with a

841
00:37:51,800 --> 00:37:54,480
Speaker 2: Coast Guard aircraft that's been tracking your prey and guiding

842
00:37:54,520 --> 00:37:57,359
Speaker 2: you from above. The prey in question is a Narco sub.

843
00:37:57,440 --> 00:37:59,880
Speaker 2: The sub is surfaced, yet it's still difficult to spot

844
00:38:00,080 --> 00:38:03,040
Speaker 2: since it's painted blue like the water. But from above,

845
00:38:03,120 --> 00:38:05,680
Speaker 2: from the sky, its trail is easier to track. This

846
00:38:05,840 --> 00:38:08,719
Speaker 2: Coast Guard aircraft. It gives your cutter that all clear

847
00:38:08,840 --> 00:38:11,680
Speaker 2: to engage. Your boat goes full throttle to catch the

848
00:38:11,800 --> 00:38:14,759
Speaker 2: sub before it slips back under the surface of the

849
00:38:14,840 --> 00:38:17,279
Speaker 2: sea and it disappears. The sub in question is not

850
00:38:17,360 --> 00:38:19,920
Speaker 2: a military sub yet it is fully capable of submerging

851
00:38:19,960 --> 00:38:22,399
Speaker 2: for a length of time. This sub was most likely

852
00:38:22,480 --> 00:38:25,400
Speaker 2: constructed in the jungles of Columbia before it was launched

853
00:38:25,400 --> 00:38:27,919
Speaker 2: by the cartel. The reason your boat must be quick

854
00:38:28,000 --> 00:38:30,040
Speaker 2: is that once the sub slips under the surface of

855
00:38:30,080 --> 00:38:33,560
Speaker 2: the water, the sub is designed to be sunk, intentionally sunk.

856
00:38:33,800 --> 00:38:37,040
Speaker 2: The evidence lost to Davy Jones's locker while the crew

857
00:38:37,400 --> 00:38:40,279
Speaker 2: escapes the sinking submarine, only to be rescued by you

858
00:38:40,560 --> 00:38:43,360
Speaker 2: in the coastguard, which they know won't let the crew drown.

859
00:38:43,800 --> 00:38:46,319
Speaker 2: So your cutter closes in on the surface narco sub

860
00:38:46,480 --> 00:38:49,880
Speaker 2: wave splashing, wind blowing, You feel the adrenaline pumping through you.

861
00:38:50,200 --> 00:38:53,080
Speaker 2: Two smaller boats are set to be launched. You're ordered

862
00:38:53,120 --> 00:38:55,640
Speaker 2: into one of the small boats and you attempt to

863
00:38:55,800 --> 00:38:58,840
Speaker 2: go and board the submarine. This does not sound like

864
00:38:58,880 --> 00:39:00,880
Speaker 2: a good idea to you. It's the middle of the

865
00:39:00,960 --> 00:39:04,080
Speaker 2: open ocean. These are cocaine smugglers, most likely armed, perhaps

866
00:39:04,080 --> 00:39:06,759
Speaker 2: heavily armed, but anyway you steal yourself. You calm, you're

867
00:39:06,800 --> 00:39:09,359
Speaker 2: racing mind as the small boat's engine does its job

868
00:39:09,520 --> 00:39:12,400
Speaker 2: getting you closer to the sub. Your boat races up

869
00:39:12,440 --> 00:39:15,680
Speaker 2: alongside the Narco sub, the engines humming against the sea.

870
00:39:16,040 --> 00:39:18,960
Speaker 2: You spot the poorly painted blue paint job of the

871
00:39:19,040 --> 00:39:22,280
Speaker 2: sub up close, and then your boat bumps up against

872
00:39:22,360 --> 00:39:24,759
Speaker 2: the sub. The engine cuts out. You can hear the

873
00:39:24,840 --> 00:39:27,920
Speaker 2: sea water laughing against the sub. The guardsman next to you,

874
00:39:28,200 --> 00:39:31,040
Speaker 2: he just jumps onto the sub. His boots slap the

875
00:39:31,120 --> 00:39:34,239
Speaker 2: sub steal skin. Water rushes past his boots as he

876
00:39:34,320 --> 00:39:38,280
Speaker 2: grips tight to the sub. You watch, just amazed the guardsman.

877
00:39:38,320 --> 00:39:40,040
Speaker 2: He grabs hold of the hatch and he wheels it

878
00:39:40,120 --> 00:39:42,920
Speaker 2: open as it winds with each revolution. Then he yanks

879
00:39:42,960 --> 00:39:46,279
Speaker 2: open the hatch. He wins, expecting gunfire. You hear the

880
00:39:46,400 --> 00:39:49,880
Speaker 2: guardsmen yell down to the cocaine smugglers. Everyone out of

881
00:39:49,920 --> 00:39:53,280
Speaker 2: the sub. He sounds like some kind of honky lifeguard

882
00:39:53,360 --> 00:39:56,440
Speaker 2: working at a suburban pool back on in Providence. But

883
00:39:56,560 --> 00:40:00,239
Speaker 2: the coke smugglers listen right, They jump and crawl out

884
00:40:00,239 --> 00:40:03,200
Speaker 2: of the sub. You were gobsmacked and so glad it

885
00:40:03,320 --> 00:40:06,000
Speaker 2: wasn't you who had to jump onto the homemade narco sub.

886
00:40:06,800 --> 00:40:08,400
Speaker 2: There you go. Dahn't it that?

887
00:40:08,560 --> 00:40:10,279
Speaker 3: You're so good? Oh my god.

888
00:40:10,719 --> 00:40:13,320
Speaker 2: Now aboard that narco sub, the Coast Guard would discover

889
00:40:13,640 --> 00:40:17,040
Speaker 2: seven hundred kiloads of coke. That's about fifteen hundred pounds

890
00:40:17,040 --> 00:40:18,480
Speaker 2: of cocaine, if you want to do the math, or

891
00:40:18,520 --> 00:40:20,279
Speaker 2: about three quarters of a ton of coke.

892
00:40:21,040 --> 00:40:23,080
Speaker 3: So how many how many for f one fifties? Is

893
00:40:23,160 --> 00:40:25,440
Speaker 3: that it's like half an f one fifty.

894
00:40:26,040 --> 00:40:30,759
Speaker 6: Yes, I had never thought of coke in f one

895
00:40:30,920 --> 00:40:33,640
Speaker 6: fifty terms, but we have to start doing that, only

896
00:40:33,719 --> 00:40:36,640
Speaker 6: placing it in F one fifty conversion rates.

897
00:40:37,120 --> 00:40:40,200
Speaker 2: That's amazing. So the Coast Guard estimated the street value

898
00:40:40,239 --> 00:40:43,160
Speaker 2: at three hundred and thirty two million dollars, but as

899
00:40:43,200 --> 00:40:45,200
Speaker 2: you and I both know, those estimates are usually too high.

900
00:40:45,239 --> 00:40:48,160
Speaker 2: But still a bunch of cocaine. So the dream of

901
00:40:48,239 --> 00:40:51,200
Speaker 2: a narco sub, as it was realized there, was done poorly.

902
00:40:51,600 --> 00:40:53,760
Speaker 2: But it is a very old idea for the cartels.

903
00:40:53,800 --> 00:40:56,400
Speaker 2: It dates back to the nineties when they first started

904
00:40:56,440 --> 00:40:58,880
Speaker 2: to really get into it. Now, the footage of you

905
00:40:58,960 --> 00:41:01,440
Speaker 2: when your Coast Guard mission, when that drug intradiction, that

906
00:41:01,520 --> 00:41:03,960
Speaker 2: footage hit the internet. It went viral folks were like,

907
00:41:04,080 --> 00:41:07,719
Speaker 2: what the hell the cartels have their own submarines, you know,

908
00:41:07,840 --> 00:41:10,120
Speaker 2: because they didn't realize they've been trying out, they've been

909
00:41:10,120 --> 00:41:12,320
Speaker 2: trying to do this for you know, Nia on twenty years.

910
00:41:12,760 --> 00:41:15,960
Speaker 2: But the idea of cartels with submarines of cocaine, it's

911
00:41:16,040 --> 00:41:19,319
Speaker 2: like criminal sci fi. It's like, are you kidding me? Now,

912
00:41:19,440 --> 00:41:21,480
Speaker 2: clearly it'd be genius for a smuggler to be able

913
00:41:21,520 --> 00:41:23,440
Speaker 2: to hide in the ocean, because you know, oceans are

914
00:41:23,480 --> 00:41:25,560
Speaker 2: like what seventy percent of the Earth's surface. I mean,

915
00:41:25,600 --> 00:41:29,279
Speaker 2: you're increasing your surface area by unfathomable amount.

916
00:41:29,239 --> 00:41:32,759
Speaker 3: Anyway, and you can a run silent and be run deep.

917
00:41:33,120 --> 00:41:33,760
Speaker 3: Very true.

918
00:41:34,840 --> 00:41:37,080
Speaker 2: Now, really this is a big game changer for them,

919
00:41:37,120 --> 00:41:39,800
Speaker 2: but it's it's apparently still not a super common tactic.

920
00:41:40,080 --> 00:41:41,520
Speaker 2: But as I told you, I want to tell you

921
00:41:41,880 --> 00:41:44,239
Speaker 2: my favorite story of a Narco sub and of course

922
00:41:44,400 --> 00:41:47,760
Speaker 2: it features Pablo Escobar. Now, as they set up top cartels,

923
00:41:47,760 --> 00:41:50,480
Speaker 2: they had their eye on buying an actual, factual Soviet

924
00:41:50,560 --> 00:41:54,720
Speaker 2: era Fox Trot class submarine. But what maybe even crazier

925
00:41:54,880 --> 00:41:57,120
Speaker 2: is that the Russian military were more than happy to

926
00:41:57,200 --> 00:42:01,560
Speaker 2: discuss prices, payloads, and even deliveries schedules the dave. I'd

927
00:42:01,640 --> 00:42:05,280
Speaker 2: like you to meet Ludwig Feinberg aka Tarzan.

928
00:42:06,120 --> 00:42:08,200
Speaker 3: That's this guy, my man, your man? Or is he

929
00:42:08,320 --> 00:42:08,839
Speaker 3: just a dude.

930
00:42:08,920 --> 00:42:11,799
Speaker 2: He's just a dude. But his street name Tarzan. I'll

931
00:42:11,840 --> 00:42:13,560
Speaker 2: give him that. He's got a dope street name. So

932
00:42:13,680 --> 00:42:16,760
Speaker 2: the year is nineteen eighty and Tarzan lands in Miami.

933
00:42:17,160 --> 00:42:19,640
Speaker 2: He arrived at the height of the cocaine cowboy ara

934
00:42:19,680 --> 00:42:22,960
Speaker 2: in Miami. Organized crime is just doing gangbuster as well

935
00:42:23,400 --> 00:42:26,040
Speaker 2: in the Florida Southland, and that's how Tarzan. He gets

936
00:42:26,080 --> 00:42:29,280
Speaker 2: a job working for the Gambino crime family. He becomes

937
00:42:29,320 --> 00:42:31,919
Speaker 2: an enforcer for the mob. He finds it he's really

938
00:42:31,960 --> 00:42:34,279
Speaker 2: good at beating people within an inch of their life.

939
00:42:34,520 --> 00:42:35,920
Speaker 2: So he's like, oh, I think I can make a

940
00:42:35,960 --> 00:42:37,600
Speaker 2: go of this, maybe make a career out of that.

941
00:42:38,000 --> 00:42:39,959
Speaker 2: I could turn people into like a high paying career

942
00:42:39,960 --> 00:42:43,000
Speaker 2: here in America. And he does, and unlike boxers, he

943
00:42:43,000 --> 00:42:45,200
Speaker 2: wouldn't even have to wear satin shorts. He's like, this

944
00:42:45,360 --> 00:42:49,520
Speaker 2: works for Tarzan, so soon as I'll set your own hours, yes, exactly,

945
00:42:49,640 --> 00:42:51,840
Speaker 2: be your own boss. He's doing well enough that he

946
00:42:51,880 --> 00:42:55,600
Speaker 2: gets goes from mob enforcer to eventually strip club owner,

947
00:42:55,680 --> 00:42:59,400
Speaker 2: He's like, look at this, oh Mary right. So, Inspired

948
00:42:59,480 --> 00:43:02,280
Speaker 2: by the the very raunchy comedy of the day, Tarzan

949
00:43:02,440 --> 00:43:04,239
Speaker 2: named his new place Porky's.

950
00:43:04,960 --> 00:43:07,320
Speaker 3: Oh boy, yeah and so, being that he was Russian,

951
00:43:07,360 --> 00:43:09,960
Speaker 3: his strip club quickly becomes good. I was gonna say,

952
00:43:10,000 --> 00:43:12,279
Speaker 3: he's probably so embarrassed. Now he's like, oh, that did

953
00:43:12,360 --> 00:43:14,600
Speaker 3: not that did not make it safe. Way into twenty

954
00:43:14,640 --> 00:43:16,439
Speaker 3: twenty three, I can't even talk about my old strip

955
00:43:16,480 --> 00:43:17,000
Speaker 3: club anymore.

956
00:43:17,080 --> 00:43:19,799
Speaker 2: Yeah, my old strip club would be canceled these days, guys.

957
00:43:21,000 --> 00:43:23,240
Speaker 2: Being that he was Russian, his strip club quickly becomes

958
00:43:23,320 --> 00:43:26,440
Speaker 2: the choice hangout for the Russian mafia figures of Miami.

959
00:43:26,760 --> 00:43:29,160
Speaker 2: Working out of the strip club, Tarzan graduates to being

960
00:43:29,200 --> 00:43:31,960
Speaker 2: a respected organized crime figure all on his own. He

961
00:43:32,040 --> 00:43:34,280
Speaker 2: begins to be introduced to the rich and the famous,

962
00:43:34,360 --> 00:43:36,400
Speaker 2: those who had a taste for the tawdry and the lurid.

963
00:43:36,640 --> 00:43:40,479
Speaker 2: Eventually well, for instance, the rapper Vanilla Ice. Vanilla Ice,

964
00:43:40,520 --> 00:43:42,759
Speaker 2: who is not just a fun name to say, but

965
00:43:42,960 --> 00:43:45,840
Speaker 2: he would become key to this story because he was

966
00:43:45,880 --> 00:43:48,480
Speaker 2: the one who introduced Tarzan to his future partner in

967
00:43:48,560 --> 00:43:52,600
Speaker 2: Crimejan Almeida. We would not have this story without Vanilla Ice.

968
00:43:53,280 --> 00:43:54,480
Speaker 2: Strange corners.

969
00:43:55,200 --> 00:43:57,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, what I really want to know is, and you'll

970
00:43:57,040 --> 00:44:01,439
Speaker 3: have to indulge me. If somehow Rockman loves driving Lamborghinis

971
00:44:01,640 --> 00:44:04,480
Speaker 3: are gonna play into this, then you'll really have my attention.

972
00:44:04,920 --> 00:44:06,960
Speaker 2: I wish I could do that. I'll see what I

973
00:44:07,000 --> 00:44:08,719
Speaker 2: can do. Let's see if I can stretch it now.

974
00:44:08,840 --> 00:44:12,319
Speaker 2: Juan Almeida he was in the import export business, which

975
00:44:12,400 --> 00:44:15,880
Speaker 2: means he primarily moved exotic, high end supercars and super

976
00:44:15,920 --> 00:44:20,040
Speaker 2: pricey speedboats, some of them legit, some not legit. Anyway,

977
00:44:20,760 --> 00:44:23,200
Speaker 2: by this time, we're into the early nineteen nineties and

978
00:44:23,239 --> 00:44:26,600
Speaker 2: the Soviet Union has just collapsed. So Tarzan he's like, oh,

979
00:44:26,640 --> 00:44:29,000
Speaker 2: I can finally return home to the new Russian Federation.

980
00:44:29,120 --> 00:44:30,920
Speaker 2: So he does exactly that. He goes back there with

981
00:44:31,000 --> 00:44:34,320
Speaker 2: Juan Almeida, and together they start exploiting the post Soviet

982
00:44:34,400 --> 00:44:37,840
Speaker 2: collapse to their benefit. They basically buy up anything that moved.

983
00:44:38,080 --> 00:44:40,600
Speaker 2: They could think, oh, yeah, I can get top dollar

984
00:44:40,680 --> 00:44:43,120
Speaker 2: for that motorcycle back wherever, right, I'll take that boat.

985
00:44:43,160 --> 00:44:45,239
Speaker 2: They're taking up everything that people would buying at the

986
00:44:45,320 --> 00:44:48,400
Speaker 2: end of the Soviet collapse. They're paying pennies on the

987
00:44:48,480 --> 00:44:51,080
Speaker 2: dollar for this stuff. Or I'm sorry pennies on the ruble.

988
00:44:51,280 --> 00:44:54,839
Speaker 2: But anyway, these two of scrupulous international mobsters, they work

989
00:44:54,880 --> 00:44:57,920
Speaker 2: their magic and the chaos of post Soviet Russia and

990
00:44:58,040 --> 00:45:03,040
Speaker 2: they meet this equally moral lists man named Nelson Tony Yester.

991
00:45:03,719 --> 00:45:06,080
Speaker 2: I do not know how you get Tony out of Nelson,

992
00:45:06,160 --> 00:45:08,160
Speaker 2: so don't even ask. I have no idea what to say.

993
00:45:08,160 --> 00:45:09,520
Speaker 2: I mean, street named Tony.

994
00:45:10,080 --> 00:45:12,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, how do you get Tarzan out of that other

995
00:45:12,160 --> 00:45:12,680
Speaker 3: dude's name?

996
00:45:12,760 --> 00:45:17,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly. So anyway, Tony Yester, he is a bona

997
00:45:17,440 --> 00:45:21,440
Speaker 2: fide international criminal. He was aligned with a meta Yin cartel,

998
00:45:21,480 --> 00:45:24,560
Speaker 2: which was Pablo Escobar's cartel. Now, when Tony Yester cross

999
00:45:24,640 --> 00:45:27,520
Speaker 2: pass with Tarzan and Juan Almeida, the three men came

1000
00:45:27,600 --> 00:45:30,359
Speaker 2: up with one al of a business deal. Yester would

1001
00:45:30,360 --> 00:45:33,520
Speaker 2: broker the deal for Pablo Escobar, Tarzan and Almeida. They'd

1002
00:45:33,600 --> 00:45:36,160
Speaker 2: offer up their Russian contacts to make the deal. So

1003
00:45:36,280 --> 00:45:38,840
Speaker 2: what was the deal, Well, Pablo Escobar he wanted to

1004
00:45:38,880 --> 00:45:43,560
Speaker 2: buy two Russian made Kamov helicopters. If you're not familiar

1005
00:45:43,640 --> 00:45:47,279
Speaker 2: with this line of Soviet transport choppers, the Kamov Dave

1006
00:45:47,440 --> 00:45:50,600
Speaker 2: was a heavy payload chopper. It was a helicopter perfect

1007
00:45:50,640 --> 00:45:54,319
Speaker 2: for moving hundreds and hundreds of pounds of cocaine like beautiful. Yeah,

1008
00:45:54,320 --> 00:45:57,880
Speaker 2: I'm guessing it was most likely the kamov Ka thirty two.

1009
00:45:58,000 --> 00:45:59,640
Speaker 3: Which is a beautiful, beautiful bird.

1010
00:45:59,719 --> 00:46:02,640
Speaker 2: Oh yeah. He's often billed as quote the most powerful

1011
00:46:02,840 --> 00:46:06,480
Speaker 2: heavy load helicopter, twin engine with coaxial rotor system with

1012
00:46:06,680 --> 00:46:10,160
Speaker 2: lifting capacity of up to five tons. It's a bad boy.

1013
00:46:10,960 --> 00:46:13,120
Speaker 2: Nice now, this thing was It looks like something Rambo

1014
00:46:13,120 --> 00:46:15,920
Speaker 2: would shoot down with the Bazuka, you know, like twin rotors,

1015
00:46:16,080 --> 00:46:19,399
Speaker 2: like big wide Soviet style. Anyway, the deal goes through.

1016
00:46:19,560 --> 00:46:22,400
Speaker 2: All sides are pleased. Pablo gets his Soviet choppers, starts

1017
00:46:22,520 --> 00:46:25,600
Speaker 2: slanging coke out of him. Almina returns to Moscow for

1018
00:46:25,680 --> 00:46:28,560
Speaker 2: a new deal. He's like, oh, but this time he

1019
00:46:28,600 --> 00:46:31,440
Speaker 2: doesn't say like, I'm here on behalf of Pablo Escobar.

1020
00:46:31,600 --> 00:46:34,239
Speaker 2: This time he says, I am Pablo Escobar. He goes

1021
00:46:34,320 --> 00:46:36,840
Speaker 2: around Russia pretending to be Pablo Escobar.

1022
00:46:37,239 --> 00:46:38,800
Speaker 3: Now, I mean, if you can get away with it,

1023
00:46:38,960 --> 00:46:39,759
Speaker 3: it's a strong move.

1024
00:46:39,880 --> 00:46:41,759
Speaker 2: They didn't have the Internet, they couldn't look it up.

1025
00:46:41,760 --> 00:46:45,240
Speaker 2: People were like, well he looks Spanish to me, well, Colombian. Whatever.

1026
00:46:45,320 --> 00:46:46,680
Speaker 2: He speaks Spanish. I don't know.

1027
00:46:47,480 --> 00:46:50,919
Speaker 3: Uh, I have to confess I did, and I don't.

1028
00:46:50,960 --> 00:46:52,839
Speaker 3: I don't look Spanish, I don't have any Latin blood.

1029
00:46:52,960 --> 00:46:53,120
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1030
00:46:53,200 --> 00:46:56,400
Speaker 3: I did once use a fake ID of my sister's

1031
00:46:56,440 --> 00:47:02,400
Speaker 3: boyfriend Miguel Sanchez to uh maybe, so I've done this

1032
00:47:02,680 --> 00:47:03,200
Speaker 3: and it works.

1033
00:47:03,280 --> 00:47:05,239
Speaker 2: It did work, It does work. Yeah, I'm telling even

1034
00:47:05,239 --> 00:47:07,439
Speaker 2: I could use like a Spanish name. People are like, okay, yeah,

1035
00:47:07,480 --> 00:47:09,560
Speaker 2: maybe Cuban. I don't know whatever, So I think we

1036
00:47:09,600 --> 00:47:11,360
Speaker 2: should all just keep that in mind. You can always

1037
00:47:11,400 --> 00:47:16,080
Speaker 2: pretend you speak Spanish. Anyway. Well, he's bobbing around post

1038
00:47:16,160 --> 00:47:19,239
Speaker 2: Soviet Moscow. Al Naida and Tarzan. They arrange a deal

1039
00:47:19,320 --> 00:47:23,040
Speaker 2: to supply the new capitalistic nation with all the cocaine

1040
00:47:23,080 --> 00:47:26,080
Speaker 2: that it can snort, smoke or shoot, and everyone's like, yay,

1041
00:47:26,680 --> 00:47:29,480
Speaker 2: not really, but anyway, this cat al Juan Almida and

1042
00:47:29,640 --> 00:47:32,880
Speaker 2: the former mob enforcer Tarzan. They both become heroes to

1043
00:47:32,960 --> 00:47:35,800
Speaker 2: the Meda Yine cartel and specifically to Pablo Escobar. He

1044
00:47:35,880 --> 00:47:38,239
Speaker 2: doesn't even care that they've been pretending to be him.

1045
00:47:38,239 --> 00:47:39,799
Speaker 2: They're like, hey, you got the deal, that was great,

1046
00:47:39,920 --> 00:47:41,920
Speaker 2: and I didn't get shot. You can get shot for me.

1047
00:47:42,040 --> 00:47:45,680
Speaker 3: Whatever, imagine the free stuff, like just the incredible amount

1048
00:47:45,719 --> 00:47:47,680
Speaker 3: of free stuff you get if you tell everybody you're

1049
00:47:47,680 --> 00:47:48,680
Speaker 3: Pablo Escobar.

1050
00:47:48,440 --> 00:47:50,440
Speaker 2: Oh my god, yes, or the stuff you can just take,

1051
00:47:50,520 --> 00:47:52,200
Speaker 2: say i am Pablo Escobar. They don't have to give

1052
00:47:52,200 --> 00:47:53,480
Speaker 2: it to you can just give it to yourself.

1053
00:47:53,960 --> 00:47:56,960
Speaker 3: You like, oh, you don't have any tables available, Well,

1054
00:47:56,960 --> 00:47:58,640
Speaker 3: I'm taking that one. Did you get the hell out?

1055
00:47:58,719 --> 00:48:01,279
Speaker 2: Yeah? You can just sit down Pablo Escobar. They're like, okay,

1056
00:48:01,360 --> 00:48:05,560
Speaker 2: I'll be sitting over here. So Juan Almida Tarzan. They

1057
00:48:05,640 --> 00:48:08,719
Speaker 2: now are working as a personal go betweens between Colombia

1058
00:48:08,760 --> 00:48:12,719
Speaker 2: and Russia, working essentially for Pablo Escobar as his man

1059
00:48:12,840 --> 00:48:15,480
Speaker 2: in Russia. But soon thereafter, in the waning days of

1060
00:48:15,600 --> 00:48:18,400
Speaker 2: nineteen ninety three, Pablo Escobar gets gunned down by the

1061
00:48:18,440 --> 00:48:21,759
Speaker 2: Colombian army and they're like, oh man our bell cow Now.

1062
00:48:21,920 --> 00:48:23,880
Speaker 2: In response, they're like, what are we gonna do? They

1063
00:48:23,960 --> 00:48:27,440
Speaker 2: wait around a little while, and the newly formed Cali cartel,

1064
00:48:27,560 --> 00:48:31,080
Speaker 2: So the Cali Cartel forms. After the Median Cartel basically

1065
00:48:31,120 --> 00:48:32,680
Speaker 2: loses its leader, they're like, oh, we're gonna go out

1066
00:48:32,680 --> 00:48:35,840
Speaker 2: and become our own cartel. They reach out to Almeda

1067
00:48:35,880 --> 00:48:37,799
Speaker 2: they're like, hey, remember what you did for Pablo, we'd

1068
00:48:37,880 --> 00:48:39,920
Speaker 2: like you to do that for us. We're gonna go

1069
00:48:40,040 --> 00:48:42,480
Speaker 2: bigger than he ever did. The Cali Cartel asked them

1070
00:48:42,520 --> 00:48:46,520
Speaker 2: to become their hardware supplier for another purchase of former

1071
00:48:46,680 --> 00:48:49,239
Speaker 2: Soviet military equipment, but the Cali Cartel is like, we

1072
00:48:49,320 --> 00:48:52,399
Speaker 2: don't want choppers. We're not into all that. Tony, Yester,

1073
00:48:52,800 --> 00:48:57,480
Speaker 2: see if you can get us a fully functional Soviet submarine.

1074
00:48:57,760 --> 00:49:00,440
Speaker 2: He's like, yes, I'll ask around what I can do.

1075
00:49:00,480 --> 00:49:02,759
Speaker 2: They're like, yeah, we don't want a nuclear powered one.

1076
00:49:02,800 --> 00:49:04,480
Speaker 2: We don't have all the plutonium for that. Just one

1077
00:49:04,520 --> 00:49:06,400
Speaker 2: of the old diesel numbers. But make sure that it

1078
00:49:06,440 --> 00:49:08,680
Speaker 2: has missile capabilities. He's like, ah, done deal.

1079
00:49:09,520 --> 00:49:13,000
Speaker 3: Also, cool hats the submarine and a couple cool hats.

1080
00:49:13,040 --> 00:49:14,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, give us some of those fur hats. We want

1081
00:49:14,560 --> 00:49:15,440
Speaker 2: those for the boys now.

1082
00:49:16,360 --> 00:49:16,600
Speaker 3: Yester.

1083
00:49:16,760 --> 00:49:19,200
Speaker 2: He tells the Cali Cartel that the Soviet sub would

1084
00:49:19,239 --> 00:49:22,719
Speaker 2: cost a cool fifty million dollars. Cali Cartel's like, whoa, whoa,

1085
00:49:22,880 --> 00:49:25,040
Speaker 2: it's a lot more than we thought. We were expecting

1086
00:49:25,080 --> 00:49:27,920
Speaker 2: a way lower number. But then they're free spending. I mean,

1087
00:49:27,960 --> 00:49:30,360
Speaker 2: they are a cocaine cartel. They're they're making, you know,

1088
00:49:31,000 --> 00:49:32,920
Speaker 2: but they are once again a business. They have their

1089
00:49:32,960 --> 00:49:35,440
Speaker 2: minds on profit on the bottom line. This, you know,

1090
00:49:35,520 --> 00:49:37,800
Speaker 2: drug dealing is not a nonprofit business. These guys are like,

1091
00:49:38,160 --> 00:49:41,360
Speaker 2: you know, how much let's think about the return on

1092
00:49:41,440 --> 00:49:44,520
Speaker 2: our investment. How much tonnage of coke could we ship

1093
00:49:44,640 --> 00:49:47,640
Speaker 2: in a Soviet submarine? To Tony Ester's like, does the calculations,

1094
00:49:47,680 --> 00:49:50,480
Speaker 2: He's like, uh, according to my calculations, you could expect

1095
00:49:50,520 --> 00:49:53,000
Speaker 2: to ship about forty million dollars of coke per load.

1096
00:49:53,239 --> 00:49:54,280
Speaker 2: They're like, done, deals.

1097
00:49:54,040 --> 00:49:54,840
Speaker 3: Out, We'll take it.

1098
00:49:54,960 --> 00:49:57,640
Speaker 2: We'll take can we get two? So that Tony Yester

1099
00:49:57,760 --> 00:49:59,720
Speaker 2: he goes he gets the go ahead from the Cali cartel.

1100
00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:01,839
Speaker 2: He goes back to Tarzan and Almida. He's like, talk

1101
00:50:01,880 --> 00:50:04,320
Speaker 2: to your Russian contacts, let's do this. They contact the

1102
00:50:04,440 --> 00:50:07,239
Speaker 2: Russian Navy and Tarzan is told it'll take a few

1103
00:50:07,320 --> 00:50:09,080
Speaker 2: days to find out if the deal can even be done.

1104
00:50:09,080 --> 00:50:10,600
Speaker 2: They're like, we'll see see if this wee can actually

1105
00:50:10,640 --> 00:50:14,279
Speaker 2: make this happen. It takes two days. Two days after that,

1106
00:50:14,400 --> 00:50:16,320
Speaker 2: Tarzan picks up the phone and he hears, do you

1107
00:50:16,440 --> 00:50:18,840
Speaker 2: want submarine with missiles or without?

1108
00:50:19,760 --> 00:50:20,000
Speaker 3: Yeah?

1109
00:50:20,360 --> 00:50:23,120
Speaker 2: So the Russian Navy was ready and willing to sell

1110
00:50:23,160 --> 00:50:27,000
Speaker 2: a fox Trot class Soviet submarine. The sub had been

1111
00:50:27,080 --> 00:50:29,120
Speaker 2: at sea since the nineteen fifties, but it was still

1112
00:50:29,320 --> 00:50:33,120
Speaker 2: ship shape and seaworthy. This diesel submarine was three hundred

1113
00:50:33,160 --> 00:50:37,360
Speaker 2: feet long. It boasted ten torpedo tubes. You know it

1114
00:50:37,440 --> 00:50:39,000
Speaker 2: In case like the cartel wanted to like sink like

1115
00:50:39,080 --> 00:50:41,080
Speaker 2: a coast guard cutter, they had options. Or if they

1116
00:50:41,120 --> 00:50:43,920
Speaker 2: wanted to sink an American battleship, whatever, they had options.

1117
00:50:44,040 --> 00:50:46,839
Speaker 2: So the deal in place. Tarzan and Almida they flew

1118
00:50:46,920 --> 00:50:49,600
Speaker 2: back to Moscow. They met again with their contacts who

1119
00:50:49,680 --> 00:50:52,840
Speaker 2: introduced them to the high ranking officers who gave the

1120
00:50:52,920 --> 00:50:56,920
Speaker 2: cartel fixers a tour of their super secret submarine installation

1121
00:50:57,440 --> 00:50:59,640
Speaker 2: and the tour of the subs that they had in

1122
00:50:59,680 --> 00:51:03,200
Speaker 2: their super secret submarine base. Tarzan and Almeia were like, Hey,

1123
00:51:03,200 --> 00:51:04,680
Speaker 2: would it be cool if we took a photo with

1124
00:51:04,760 --> 00:51:06,800
Speaker 2: the subject proved to the cartel that is real and

1125
00:51:06,880 --> 00:51:10,560
Speaker 2: in good shape and not a scam. And they're like, no, no, no,

1126
00:51:10,680 --> 00:51:12,680
Speaker 2: I don't think that would be a yet yeth. But

1127
00:51:12,760 --> 00:51:14,680
Speaker 2: the Russian naval officers, you know, even though they were

1128
00:51:14,760 --> 00:51:18,120
Speaker 2: leary about photos of the super secret sub basse. Tarzan

1129
00:51:18,280 --> 00:51:21,680
Speaker 2: was like, you know, money talks, so how about two

1130
00:51:21,719 --> 00:51:25,320
Speaker 2: hundred dollars? And they're like, okay, so that's a selfie

1131
00:51:25,480 --> 00:51:29,120
Speaker 2: exactly two hundred bucks, the guys, Tarzan gets his photo. Now,

1132
00:51:29,160 --> 00:51:32,359
Speaker 2: at one point, according to Tarzan and confirmed by Tony Yester,

1133
00:51:32,440 --> 00:51:34,520
Speaker 2: the Russians even asked the cartel, would you look to

1134
00:51:34,640 --> 00:51:37,719
Speaker 2: buy nuclear weapon? We have all sorts here right, So

1135
00:51:37,800 --> 00:51:40,520
Speaker 2: they were terrifying considering selling a nuclear weapon to the

1136
00:51:40,600 --> 00:51:43,279
Speaker 2: Cali cartel. And now how serious they were is left

1137
00:51:43,320 --> 00:51:43,960
Speaker 2: for you to decide.

1138
00:51:44,040 --> 00:51:44,360
Speaker 3: I don't know.

1139
00:51:44,480 --> 00:51:46,440
Speaker 2: But anyway, at this point, Tarzan and all of his

1140
00:51:46,640 --> 00:51:50,160
Speaker 2: movements and his business moves, they've drawn the surveillance of

1141
00:51:50,200 --> 00:51:54,120
Speaker 2: the American intelligence community and the DA. He's on two radars.

1142
00:51:54,360 --> 00:51:56,600
Speaker 2: So the fedger is so deep nownto his crime circle

1143
00:51:56,680 --> 00:51:59,200
Speaker 2: that they have worked a mole inside who's telling them

1144
00:51:59,239 --> 00:52:01,799
Speaker 2: everything about what he's doing. It was the fed's mole

1145
00:52:01,880 --> 00:52:04,879
Speaker 2: who spotted the photo of Tarzan and the Russian naval

1146
00:52:04,960 --> 00:52:07,560
Speaker 2: officers standing in the secret sub basse in front of

1147
00:52:07,600 --> 00:52:11,360
Speaker 2: the submarine. So that picture eventually became his undoing because

1148
00:52:11,440 --> 00:52:14,839
Speaker 2: the sub photo, when the mole tells the FED, oh yeah,

1149
00:52:14,840 --> 00:52:16,520
Speaker 2: they're looking at a nuclear sub They're like, wait what

1150
00:52:16,840 --> 00:52:20,399
Speaker 2: the FEDS go crazy about that, right, They Yeah, he's

1151
00:52:20,440 --> 00:52:21,880
Speaker 2: got a photo on his desk if him in a

1152
00:52:21,920 --> 00:52:25,000
Speaker 2: secret to a Soviet sub base. They're like, okay, all

1153
00:52:25,160 --> 00:52:27,680
Speaker 2: all all green flags are waving now. They're throwing all

1154
00:52:27,719 --> 00:52:29,200
Speaker 2: the money, all the agents they can at this.

1155
00:52:30,040 --> 00:52:32,600
Speaker 3: I mean I would do that. Like, if you had

1156
00:52:32,640 --> 00:52:35,160
Speaker 3: that kind of a photo, put it on your desk, right,

1157
00:52:35,400 --> 00:52:36,280
Speaker 3: I put it framed?

1158
00:52:36,360 --> 00:52:36,840
Speaker 2: He kidding me.

1159
00:52:37,000 --> 00:52:39,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, so you said your Christmas card, Yeah.

1160
00:52:39,719 --> 00:52:42,520
Speaker 2: Exactly on the front door of my house. So he

1161
00:52:42,640 --> 00:52:45,160
Speaker 2: tells his handlers. The mole tells his handlers about the

1162
00:52:45,160 --> 00:52:47,359
Speaker 2: sub deal. They freak out. They go and they give

1163
00:52:47,440 --> 00:52:49,400
Speaker 2: him a bugged phone because they want to know everything

1164
00:52:49,440 --> 00:52:52,040
Speaker 2: he's saying now, So like, here, give Tarzan this bugged phone.

1165
00:52:52,239 --> 00:52:53,920
Speaker 2: The mole goes, and he does. He tells him it's

1166
00:52:53,960 --> 00:52:56,440
Speaker 2: a jail broken phone that he has, and he's like, oh,

1167
00:52:56,480 --> 00:52:57,920
Speaker 2: I got a bunch of these. You can now make

1168
00:52:57,960 --> 00:53:00,719
Speaker 2: international calls for free. That's all tar And needs to hear.

1169
00:53:00,760 --> 00:53:04,359
Speaker 2: He's like, oh, free international calls, and he starts using

1170
00:53:04,440 --> 00:53:06,960
Speaker 2: the bugged phone as his primary phone call for all

1171
00:53:07,040 --> 00:53:09,840
Speaker 2: of his international calls. So now the FEDS are hearing everything.

1172
00:53:10,320 --> 00:53:12,920
Speaker 2: But regardless of this, in the end, it wasn't the

1173
00:53:13,000 --> 00:53:15,960
Speaker 2: FEDS who stopped the sub deal. It was Tony Yester.

1174
00:53:16,800 --> 00:53:19,320
Speaker 2: Because you see, Tony Yester received ten million of the

1175
00:53:19,400 --> 00:53:21,719
Speaker 2: cartel's money to deliver as a down payment on the

1176
00:53:21,840 --> 00:53:25,160
Speaker 2: Russian sub. Instead, he decided to not do that. He's like,

1177
00:53:25,239 --> 00:53:27,680
Speaker 2: this money looks really good in Tony Yester's wallet. I

1178
00:53:27,760 --> 00:53:29,919
Speaker 2: think I'm gonna keep it. So he does. He kept

1179
00:53:29,960 --> 00:53:32,640
Speaker 2: the cartel's sub money. He's like, what are they gonna do?

1180
00:53:32,719 --> 00:53:33,200
Speaker 3: Call a cop.

1181
00:53:33,800 --> 00:53:36,520
Speaker 2: But Yester as he steals the ten million, he.

1182
00:53:36,600 --> 00:53:38,680
Speaker 3: Just slips it right into his sheepskin wallet. He's just

1183
00:53:38,760 --> 00:53:39,120
Speaker 3: like yeah.

1184
00:53:39,160 --> 00:53:42,200
Speaker 2: He's like, ey, you gotta find Tony Yester. Remember last

1185
00:53:42,200 --> 00:53:44,840
Speaker 2: time he saw him it was yesterday and today is today.

1186
00:53:45,480 --> 00:53:47,640
Speaker 2: So anyway, he hides out of a friend's house. He

1187
00:53:47,760 --> 00:53:50,279
Speaker 2: pays that friend ten grand to tell nobody he's there

1188
00:53:50,320 --> 00:53:52,480
Speaker 2: and to stay away from the house. The friend does it,

1189
00:53:52,600 --> 00:53:55,520
Speaker 2: so Tony Yester thinks he's Golden David. He was not

1190
00:53:55,719 --> 00:53:59,040
Speaker 2: golden because the Cali cartels showed up in Miami on

1191
00:53:59,120 --> 00:54:01,440
Speaker 2: the hunt for Tony Yes, and they're missing ten million

1192
00:54:01,480 --> 00:54:04,840
Speaker 2: dollars as everybody knows they would. They found only Tarzan

1193
00:54:04,920 --> 00:54:07,160
Speaker 2: and his partner in crime, Almeda, and they're like, look, look,

1194
00:54:07,520 --> 00:54:08,920
Speaker 2: we don't know where he is. And they're like, come

1195
00:54:09,000 --> 00:54:11,359
Speaker 2: on now, man. So the cartel like they're pumping these

1196
00:54:11,360 --> 00:54:13,120
Speaker 2: guys for information. I don't know if they were tortured

1197
00:54:13,200 --> 00:54:15,080
Speaker 2: or not, but anyway, these guys are on the hook

1198
00:54:15,120 --> 00:54:17,600
Speaker 2: for the ten million dollars. They swear on their lives,

1199
00:54:17,880 --> 00:54:20,160
Speaker 2: which make no mistake, their lives were at risk. They

1200
00:54:20,280 --> 00:54:22,120
Speaker 2: swear on their lives that they had nothing to do

1201
00:54:22,200 --> 00:54:25,200
Speaker 2: with Tony Yester. They don't even know where that guy is. Eventually,

1202
00:54:25,239 --> 00:54:28,920
Speaker 2: the cartel believes them and somehow Tarzan and Almida they

1203
00:54:28,960 --> 00:54:31,640
Speaker 2: get trusted. They get to keep their lives, and even

1204
00:54:31,719 --> 00:54:34,560
Speaker 2: Tony Yester he keeps his lives. He managed to avoid

1205
00:54:34,640 --> 00:54:37,000
Speaker 2: being busted by the US FEDS, who had them all

1206
00:54:37,080 --> 00:54:41,240
Speaker 2: under surveillance. However, he couldn't avoid prison forever because Tarzan

1207
00:54:41,440 --> 00:54:43,920
Speaker 2: and al Meeda they would eventually get locked up on

1208
00:54:44,080 --> 00:54:47,200
Speaker 2: other charges down the line unrelated to the submarine deal.

1209
00:54:47,239 --> 00:54:49,279
Speaker 2: They were all busted on charges related to their other

1210
00:54:49,360 --> 00:54:51,320
Speaker 2: dealings with the Cali cartel and the Russian So it

1211
00:54:51,400 --> 00:54:53,880
Speaker 2: turns out the cocaine was enough to bust them, So

1212
00:54:54,360 --> 00:54:57,880
Speaker 2: Tarzan then flips a Almeda and his testimony puts his

1213
00:54:57,920 --> 00:55:00,440
Speaker 2: little partner in crime behind bars. But then later on,

1214
00:55:00,560 --> 00:55:04,080
Speaker 2: in this crazy unexpected twist, Tarzan then recants his testimony,

1215
00:55:04,120 --> 00:55:06,440
Speaker 2: which then sets his buddy freeze, only he ends up

1216
00:55:06,480 --> 00:55:10,120
Speaker 2: having to do the time Almighty gets released. Tarzan, mind you,

1217
00:55:10,360 --> 00:55:12,880
Speaker 2: he is still alive, Dave. He served out his sentence

1218
00:55:12,920 --> 00:55:15,600
Speaker 2: in America. Then for him, he did another one down

1219
00:55:15,640 --> 00:55:17,640
Speaker 2: in Panama, just to see if you could get even

1220
00:55:17,719 --> 00:55:19,680
Speaker 2: more right. He has not gotten more right.

1221
00:55:20,239 --> 00:55:22,200
Speaker 3: Just to check out the facilities. He's like, I want

1222
00:55:22,239 --> 00:55:23,919
Speaker 3: to see what Panawa has to offer.

1223
00:55:24,000 --> 00:55:25,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, what's the difference. How do they do it down

1224
00:55:25,640 --> 00:55:28,160
Speaker 2: here where the weather's warmer. So then eventually he goes

1225
00:55:28,200 --> 00:55:30,359
Speaker 2: back home to Russia. Now, the best as I can tell,

1226
00:55:30,440 --> 00:55:33,839
Speaker 2: he was last known to be living in Odessa, Ukraine, which,

1227
00:55:34,000 --> 00:55:36,440
Speaker 2: as you well know from world events, is a tough

1228
00:55:36,520 --> 00:55:38,200
Speaker 2: place to be right now. So I don't know if

1229
00:55:38,239 --> 00:55:41,120
Speaker 2: he's still there. I'm betting not there it is. That's

1230
00:55:41,160 --> 00:55:44,040
Speaker 2: the closest the cocaine cowboys ever got to getting their

1231
00:55:44,080 --> 00:55:47,239
Speaker 2: own true narco sub They were so close if not

1232
00:55:47,480 --> 00:55:50,759
Speaker 2: for Tony Yester. And they almost got a nuclear weapon

1233
00:55:50,800 --> 00:55:51,279
Speaker 2: out of it too.

1234
00:55:52,080 --> 00:55:54,280
Speaker 3: So are you saying that Tony is still at large

1235
00:55:54,320 --> 00:55:55,400
Speaker 3: with the ten million.

1236
00:55:55,239 --> 00:55:58,280
Speaker 2: Tony No, as far as we know, Tony Yester managed

1237
00:55:58,280 --> 00:55:59,960
Speaker 2: to get away as far as I could find.

1238
00:56:00,320 --> 00:56:03,640
Speaker 3: How many like that's a man, that's a whole nother podcast,

1239
00:56:03,760 --> 00:56:06,440
Speaker 3: Like how many people managed to take money from the

1240
00:56:06,480 --> 00:56:07,680
Speaker 3: cartel and live to.

1241
00:56:07,719 --> 00:56:08,319
Speaker 2: Tell the tale?

1242
00:56:08,880 --> 00:56:09,000
Speaker 5: Right?

1243
00:56:09,440 --> 00:56:12,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, So what's our ridiculous takeaway? David?

1244
00:56:12,920 --> 00:56:16,080
Speaker 3: Well, thank you for asking. I'm glad that that you

1245
00:56:16,400 --> 00:56:20,040
Speaker 3: the game recognizes game. Yeah, tell Elizabeth for a change.

1246
00:56:22,080 --> 00:56:24,279
Speaker 3: You know, I was thinking about it, and I think

1247
00:56:24,360 --> 00:56:29,640
Speaker 3: it's uh that Tarzan really represents the Peter principle. The

1248
00:56:29,680 --> 00:56:32,319
Speaker 3: Peter principle is like you get promoted to your level

1249
00:56:32,400 --> 00:56:35,840
Speaker 3: of incompetence. He was a great muscle guy, right, Like,

1250
00:56:36,360 --> 00:56:39,600
Speaker 3: he was an absolute perfect enforcer. He and and he

1251
00:56:39,680 --> 00:56:42,040
Speaker 3: pulled a couple of moves and like got high up

1252
00:56:42,120 --> 00:56:44,839
Speaker 3: enough in the organization and eventually he reached the place

1253
00:56:44,880 --> 00:56:47,400
Speaker 3: where he needed smarter people around him and didn't have

1254
00:56:47,560 --> 00:56:51,040
Speaker 3: them someone else. It's like if you had just stuck

1255
00:56:51,080 --> 00:56:54,000
Speaker 3: with walking around impersonating Pablo Esquar and getting free stuff.

1256
00:56:54,360 --> 00:56:57,839
Speaker 3: He probably would have been fine, but it was the career. Yeah,

1257
00:56:58,160 --> 00:57:00,760
Speaker 3: that could last a lifetime, and you know, doing errands

1258
00:57:00,760 --> 00:57:02,880
Speaker 3: for Escobar like all that stuff until you you know,

1259
00:57:03,000 --> 00:57:06,239
Speaker 3: inevitably piss him off. But to that point he would

1260
00:57:06,239 --> 00:57:08,200
Speaker 3: have been fine. It was purely like, you know what,

1261
00:57:08,360 --> 00:57:11,719
Speaker 3: I'm going to try to do this like serious international

1262
00:57:11,880 --> 00:57:13,920
Speaker 3: arms trade. I'm gonna try to pull off something that's

1263
00:57:13,960 --> 00:57:17,600
Speaker 3: never done before. He needed a project manager, he did

1264
00:57:17,680 --> 00:57:20,520
Speaker 3: an accountant. He needed these skills that he didn't have.

1265
00:57:20,760 --> 00:57:23,000
Speaker 3: And that's where kind of the the criming skills just

1266
00:57:23,120 --> 00:57:25,160
Speaker 3: ran out. He ran out to string totally. He needed

1267
00:57:25,160 --> 00:57:27,760
Speaker 3: a business manager. He needed a fixer. He needed someone

1268
00:57:27,800 --> 00:57:29,720
Speaker 3: who was a dreamer. Maybe he needed a good woman

1269
00:57:29,800 --> 00:57:30,200
Speaker 3: in his life.

1270
00:57:30,240 --> 00:57:32,479
Speaker 2: I don't know. But he needed a partner who cared

1271
00:57:32,520 --> 00:57:34,240
Speaker 2: about him and didn't it would sit him down to

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Speaker 2: tell him the truth. It's like, look, maybe go back

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Speaker 2: to being a strip club owner.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. He also needed a like in the eighties movies.

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Speaker 3: He needed a goofy guy with a hat. He's like

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Speaker 3: your sidekick. He didn't have any of these things. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: he was missing at all.

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Speaker 2: Well what about you?

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Speaker 3: What is your ridiculous takeaway? Mister Zarin.

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Speaker 2: Oh, thank you, David. You know that's just so neat,

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Speaker 2: so orderly. I mean, boom boom oh, I love it.

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Speaker 2: My ridiculous takeaway is that how these guys get their

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Speaker 2: criminal nicknames Tarzan? I want to know how a Russian

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Speaker 2: guy gets named Tarzan? Like, was he like, you know,

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Speaker 2: was he a swinger? Was he like you know with

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Speaker 2: somebody who's like, hey, he's known to go from vine

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Speaker 2: to vine, Like, what's the deal that you get the nickname.

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Speaker 3: Long air?

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Speaker 2: He had a taste for apes. He's like, well, you know,

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Speaker 2: he always wants to go to the zoo. I'm just

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Speaker 2: curious about that.

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Speaker 3: But there you go.

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Speaker 2: That's all that's all I got for you.

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Speaker 3: So that was a great story.

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