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Speaker 2: A week from today, we will have our first day

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Speaker 2: of combine coverage here on the Steelers Audio Network. We

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Speaker 2: will be arriving in Indianapolis on Monday Wednesday.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, never mind, I'm like, you're a day off, Like, no,

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Speaker 3: I'm a day off. Never mind?

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Speaker 2: Who's on first? Yeah, Monday, Monday, travel Day, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday,

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Speaker 2: Friday our coverage on SNR and the Steelers Audio Network,

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Speaker 2: and we're excited for that. We're gearing up for that.

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Speaker 2: We will be on from nine to five Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday,

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Speaker 2: Thursday Party nine to five. We're working nine to five

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Speaker 2: like Dolly Parton on Radio Row Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday. That's

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Speaker 2: obviously Eastern Standard time for those of you that are

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Speaker 2: in different places. And then Friday we're done at two,

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Speaker 2: so we're just nine to two on Friday. We'll get

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Speaker 2: out of there a little bit. But yeah, yes, and

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Speaker 2: a lot of these big names that we've discussed so

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Speaker 2: far that will continue to discuss Matt people are familiar with.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, people know f Nana Mendoza and rvl rees.

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Speaker 3: It's time to move past those guys right to dig in.

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Speaker 2: It absolutely is those surface level guys. It's like that's

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Speaker 2: like your first You remember when you were back in

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Speaker 2: high school, grade school, middle school, and it's like you've

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Speaker 2: got your report cards and quarters, like nine weeks, yeah,

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Speaker 2: two quarters was a semester, and every nine weeks it's like, okay,

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Speaker 2: the first nine weeks of draft season are past us.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, so you.

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Speaker 2: Better know the big names and the wide the top

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Speaker 2: wide receivers and all these different things. Now it's time

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Speaker 2: to get into the second quarter. Matt.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we're not on like the eighth safety yet, but right.

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Speaker 2: We're maybe approaching the end of the first semester, end

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Speaker 2: of the second quarter here, and it's time to get

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Speaker 2: familiar with some new names.

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Speaker 3: And I'm sure we'll do some of this too. But

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Speaker 3: Dale would Dale and I would text each other a

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Speaker 3: lot this time of year, or he'd just pop in

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Speaker 3: the next days, like I watched this receiver from Florida State.

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Speaker 3: You know, let's talk, let's break him down, and like

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Speaker 3: that seems like about a fourth rounder.

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Speaker 2: Like all right, we all have our different football dor quirks,

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Speaker 2: and that that's for sure, and that will that will

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Speaker 2: definitely continue all throughout combine and draft season. Here, but

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Speaker 2: ten names to know, Matt. Some of these are names

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Speaker 2: that you and I have mentioned, yeah, once or twice

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Speaker 2: in passing, but I think a little bit more of

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Speaker 2: a conversation here, and one of these.

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Speaker 3: Tier two guys will get hot and made it end

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Speaker 3: up going fifteenth overall or twenty first overall or you know,

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Speaker 2: And some of these names that we've discussed that we

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Speaker 2: think are nailed on first rounders might get to the

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Speaker 2: a hit issue, and then all of a sudden he's

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Speaker 2: drafted in Day two instead of in the top twenty.

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Speaker 3: Another thing that happens. And I respect draft knicks now

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Speaker 2: I do love that term it. Yeah, who's your favorite Draftnick? Well,

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Speaker 2: I'm a Dane Brugler guy.

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Speaker 3: I mean, like Mel was the first that you know,

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Speaker 3: Mel was the ot draftnick. But a lot of them

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Speaker 3: look at things so generically that they don't look through

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Speaker 3: the eyes of a coach of man. I can't use

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Speaker 3: this guy in Nickel, So he's a fourth rounder, not

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Speaker 3: gotta really think how do I use him on Game Day?

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Speaker 2: Ten names to start getting familiar with. Here again, a

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Speaker 2: couple of these we've mentioned, but very briefly in passing.

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Speaker 2: One of those guys at the top of the list.

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Speaker 2: This is Todd mcshay's list, by the way, Okay, one

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Speaker 2: of those guys I believe, so right, this is McShay, Yes,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm gonna try to grab him.

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Speaker 2: Awesome there, he'd be awesome. Uh, Edge Rusher Adam Missouri's

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Speaker 3: thirty two. Max said Young at like sixteen or seventeen

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Speaker 2: Texas, A and M had the most players invited with

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Speaker 2: thirteen this year's draft. But you're right, I don't The SEC.

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Speaker 2: I still think is the best conference in college football.

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Speaker 3: And I lie.

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Speaker 2: Big ten people don't tweet me. Okay. I know you've

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Speaker 2: won the last three national championships, and I'm very refreshed

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Speaker 2: are the best conference in college football, just not as

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Speaker 3: Over prospects because a lot of them are linemen, you

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Speaker 2: Mean, A lot of edge rushers, a lot of corners.

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Speaker 2: Another one of those guys out of Texas, Anthony Old junior, Yeah,

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Speaker 3: He's more athlete than players. Yes, he's not violent, he's

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Speaker 2: Looks like a round two pick according to McShay, and

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Speaker 3: There's three guys that are well ahead of them. I

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Speaker 2: We've talked about Ketrick Keldric Falk, the edge rusher from Auburn.

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Speaker 2: Or Stewart from last year. These guys could go one

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Speaker 2: McShay has the other Auburn edge rusher, Ron Crawford listed here.

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Speaker 2: High level motor, excellent.

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Speaker 2: The name on this list that really caught my.

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Speaker 3: We want edge rushers to go in the first few rounds, totally. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Edge rusher's offensive tackles let him fly off the board,

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Speaker 2: fly off the board. Another name on mcshay's list here.

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Speaker 2: This is a name I've mentioned to you a couple

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Speaker 2: of times when we talked tight ends briefly in the past.

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Speaker 2: But Eli Stower's out of Vanderbilt.

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Speaker 2: Is clear cut tight end one. If anybody else has anything,

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Speaker 2: Eli Stower's out of Vanderbilt and Michael Trigg at a Baylor.

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Speaker 2: a Harold fan and junior type, ends up going in

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Speaker 3: More receiver than blocker type, more receiver than than than blocker.

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Speaker 2: He is a little undersized, but so was Fannin. He's

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Speaker 2: like Max Claire out of Ohio State, who everyone's talked

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Speaker 2: he might be, I mean a first round, first round pick.

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Speaker 2: He's an athletic freak. But I think Stower's is really

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Speaker 3: Keep an eye on this because it's becoming more of

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Speaker 3: a college football trend. The tight ends that they're producing

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Speaker 3: producing more and better tight ends than ever might even

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Speaker 3: start it with, like Darnold Washington's class, but there was

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Speaker 2: You know, it's not the thought process that it was

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Speaker 2: fifteen years ago. When you're gonna have to wait till

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Speaker 3: It used to be like, why would I bother the

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Speaker 3: drafting this guy because his second contract win, he's gonna be.

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Speaker 2: Good cornerback Chris Johnson out of San Diego State, Smart, instinctive,

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Speaker 2: unbelievably fast, Yeah, versatile, excels in man and zone as corner.

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Speaker 3: He really looks like a clear second round guy.

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Speaker 2: Didn't have a great senior.

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Speaker 3: Boy Senior Bowl wasn't great.

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Speaker 2: For me, but but tape is outstanding. And yeah, that's

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Speaker 2: what McShay says, is that if he has a good combine,

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Speaker 3: And guys like that, I mean, with the traits could

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Speaker 2: It's great for those guys. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Another one of those guys to me is the safety

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Speaker 2: in the past, Emmanuel McNeil Warren.

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Speaker 3: People love them.

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Speaker 2: He's got some of those em and worry. Yeah, you

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Speaker 2: know Cooper dejen type vibes where he just violent. He's violent.

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Speaker 2: He can be a versatile guy in your secondary. I

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Speaker 2: think he's got a chance to be a first round pick.

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Speaker 2: Certainly there could.

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Speaker 3: Be three first round safeties. We know Downs is going

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Speaker 3: to we haven't talked about the Oregon kid enough and

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Speaker 3: the dude from Toledo. We're all going to go probably

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that's a safe bet.

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Speaker 3: Especially if they can prove to be slot capable like

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Speaker 2: That's the that's the call, that's the calling card. And

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Speaker 2: I think, continue to talk more and more about these guys. Uh.

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Speaker 2: Grace Houghton out of Oklahoma one technique guy really get off,

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Speaker 2: and according to mcshah, would be surprised if he lasts

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Speaker 3: Okay, so he might be like steel round.

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Speaker 2: I wouldn't hate that. I I want to add to

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Speaker 3: To how much I do it through the draft.

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Speaker 2: Then I think day two is the is the kind

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Speaker 2: it was Day two. Uh. And a couple of wide

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Speaker 2: receivers to close down this list. Amari Cooper Junior out

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Speaker 2: those who don't know the name, you will know the highlight.

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Speaker 2: He's the one who made that circus toad tap catch

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Speaker 3: The more you're watching, the more you love the guy.

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Speaker 2: One of them more like he's he's got that. He's

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Speaker 2: got that George Pickens type ball skills, zero fear kind

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Speaker 3: Elite blocker, which probably doesn't shock you coming.

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Speaker 2: From Indiana does not, does not.

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Speaker 3: I don't know which Indiana guy I prefer right now.

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Speaker 3: They're both probably day two picks, maybe round two picks.

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Speaker 2: Mcshae compares to Mary Cooper to a faster Jarvis Landry.

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Speaker 2: I would sign up Andry was a killer blocker, I

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Speaker 2: would I would sign up for that.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Uh. Chris Brazzle out of Tennessee, the wide receiver. We've

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Speaker 2: mentioned him, six five over two hundred pounds. That's the

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Speaker 2: big body type you've been talking about.

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Speaker 3: Now. Tennessee doesn't run a.

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Speaker 2: Real varied route treat No, they do not.

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Speaker 3: But he's not just a straight line athlete. He can

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Speaker 3: break things off and beat you with more than just go.

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Speaker 2: Routes to a lot of nine routes on those Tennessee tapes,

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Speaker 2: but it's six' five man and then kind of the

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Speaker 2: who's the opposite of. That we've Mentioned Zachariah branch out

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Speaker 2: Of georgia a lot to, like but he's, undersized he's you,

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Speaker 3: Jeff the target's like one. Yard everything's at the line of.

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Speaker 2: Scrimmage his comps from McShay Are Jalen, Wattle Jordan addison's a.

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Speaker 3: Flowers, Yeah AND i don't think he's just a slot

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Speaker 3: like those guys. AREN'T i, mean those guys are primary

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Speaker 3: play the wide receiver. Position they're not just gimmick. Dudes

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Speaker 3: they're out there every. Snap they're not just the third.

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Speaker 3: Receiver you happen to know where he transferred. From he

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Speaker 3: transferred FROM.

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Speaker 2: USC i THINK i was gonna say it was another big, school.

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Speaker 3: And his first two years AT, usc the first year

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Speaker 3: he greatly Outproduced. Lemon they're the same, age and then

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Speaker 3: the second year they were almost neck and. Neck so

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Speaker 3: in a different offense with different, usage he did a

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Speaker 3: lot of good stuff as.

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Speaker 2: Well it's funny his number one weakness listed on his

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Speaker 2: draft report is large share of his targets were thrown

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Speaker 3: Scrimmage, yeah they're just, like get him out.

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Speaker 2: Quick but that's NOT i don't even know that's necessarily

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Speaker 3: RIGHT i mean that's how burden, was you, know last.

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Speaker 3: Year SO i Heard todd recently talking about how he

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Speaker 3: thinks there's gonna be at least twelve receivers in the

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Speaker 3: first two. Rounds that's a ridiculous. Number and he went back,

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Speaker 3: Again i'm quoting. Him he went, back he, said over

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Speaker 3: thirty years or, something.

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Speaker 2: Only twice in the last thirty years has there been

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Speaker 3: Rounds ones was The pickings year and one.

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Speaker 2: Was The pickings. Year and he thinks that this will

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Speaker 2: be the third time in the last thirty years that

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Speaker 2: that that's.

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Speaker 3: INSANE i kind of feel like The steelers have to

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Speaker 3: get one of those. Twelve, YEAH i, mean if it's

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Speaker 3: not round, one you'd be better get one of the.

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Speaker 3: Twelve if there truly are twelve going in the top sixty,

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Speaker 3: four better better get. One.

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Speaker 2: YEAH i think that's A i think that's a fair,

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Speaker 2: ask especially as we sit here. TODAY i don't think

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Speaker 2: they could even do something in free agency that would

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Speaker 3: REGARD i, mean you trade for A. J, BROWN i

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Speaker 3: see it was.

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Speaker 2: Right, ABSOLUTELY i want to GET i want to get

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Speaker 2: greedy at that position, man because whether It's Aaron, rodgers

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Speaker 2: whether it's the next, guy the next, Guy Will, howard

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Speaker 2: whoever it might, BE i want that nest, man and

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Speaker 2: you need those wide receivers to be part of that.

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Speaker 3: NEST i really think remember the conversation we talked about

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Speaker 3: HOW i think it Was todd and saying there's about

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Speaker 3: ten quarterbacks next year for next year's. Class when we

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Speaker 3: went through you, Know, Texas Ohias, state blah blah. Blah

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Speaker 3: if you're one of the teams that's targeting, them what

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Speaker 3: do you do this? Year you take a receiver or a?

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Speaker 2: Tackle, yeah you, know, absolutely build, right build the nest

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Speaker 2: offensive line or wide. Receiver it's a it's it's a no.

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Speaker 2: Brainer AND i think that that's a good year to be.

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Speaker 2: Doing next we see a lot of these wide receivers

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Speaker 2: available in the top sixty, four a lot of offensive

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Speaker 2: tackles that are in the back half of the first

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Speaker 2: round of the. Draft is crazy. Rare you don't have

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Speaker 2: the the know alt type prospect in this draft at either.

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Speaker 2: Position at either, Position you've got a lot of THOSE

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Speaker 2: b plus type prospects that the quality.

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Speaker 3: Starters, yes.

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Speaker 2: That might not be going To canton one, day but

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Speaker 2: that could be a really good player for you for ten.

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Speaker 2: Years that, THAT i.

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Speaker 3: Think you'll see a lot of these what looked like

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Speaker 3: quarterback needy teams taking a receiver or, tackle and then next,

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Speaker 3: year you like The browns might take one of each

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Speaker 2: Round they, should they, should and it's For cleveland's. Sake

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Speaker 2: that might be one thing that actually falls their way this.

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Speaker 2: Year it's a good. Year you got two first round.

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Speaker 3: Picks. Receiver don't screw it.

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Speaker 2: Up don't screw it up That. Cleveland they can never

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Speaker 2: screw that, up, Right no. Way they had this great

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Speaker 2: gout Named Matt williamson in the building and they got

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Speaker 2: rid of. Them and after a, year that tells me

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Speaker 2: EVERYTHING i need to know about The, browns Although i'm

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Speaker 2: forever grateful because who knows Where i'd be right now

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Speaker 2: IF i wasn't doing radio With Matt.

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Speaker 3: Williamson