1 00:00:01,240 --> 00:00:03,760 Speaker 1: I did classes eight hours a day for one week, 2 00:00:03,840 --> 00:00:06,200 Speaker 1: so I can't even order from fist, you know. And 3 00:00:06,200 --> 00:00:07,920 Speaker 1: then when I left, you know, I was telling the 4 00:00:07,920 --> 00:00:09,920 Speaker 1: taxis where to go and do all that stuff in 5 00:00:09,960 --> 00:00:14,360 Speaker 1: one week. Yeah. Welcome to Jaguars Reporters, presented by t 6 00:00:14,640 --> 00:00:19,520 Speaker 1: I A A Bank with Brian Sexton, John Oshan, Ashlyn Sullivan, 7 00:00:19,880 --> 00:00:23,680 Speaker 1: and J. P. Shadrack. Jaguars Reporters pretended by t I 8 00:00:23,880 --> 00:00:28,160 Speaker 1: A A Bank starts right down. Welcome to the the Jaguars 9 00:00:28,200 --> 00:00:32,599 Speaker 1: Reporters and today is Monday, May twenty four. J P. Shadrick, 10 00:00:32,680 --> 00:00:36,080 Speaker 1: Ashland Sullivan, John Osan, Brian Sexton. A busy time around 11 00:00:36,479 --> 00:00:41,839 Speaker 1: Jaguars football as we begin organized team activities. Ashland, here 12 00:00:41,840 --> 00:00:48,640 Speaker 1: we go. It's for real this time last week. Hold 13 00:00:49,000 --> 00:00:52,920 Speaker 1: for it's for real. I was told it's all semantics. 14 00:00:52,960 --> 00:00:56,880 Speaker 1: They just keep changing the names and the terms. It's um, 15 00:00:56,960 --> 00:00:59,279 Speaker 1: it's football practice in your underwear. Yeah. I don't think 16 00:00:59,320 --> 00:01:01,920 Speaker 1: it's any different in them last week. It's just got 17 00:01:01,920 --> 00:01:04,959 Speaker 1: a different name. Well, it's different in the sense that 18 00:01:05,040 --> 00:01:07,479 Speaker 1: they can do a team working seven on seven. So 19 00:01:08,360 --> 00:01:13,520 Speaker 1: uh if The problem, of course is there's not much 20 00:01:13,560 --> 00:01:16,320 Speaker 1: that the media or US can report in terms of 21 00:01:16,360 --> 00:01:18,160 Speaker 1: some of the things that fans want to know. In terms, 22 00:01:18,600 --> 00:01:20,520 Speaker 1: I'm very curious to see how the defense is gonna 23 00:01:20,560 --> 00:01:23,560 Speaker 1: look in terms of the personnel groupings. Uh. That's not 24 00:01:23,720 --> 00:01:27,800 Speaker 1: something that in less Urban Meyer discusses it that will 25 00:01:27,840 --> 00:01:32,200 Speaker 1: get out in great detail until training camp. So uh, 26 00:01:32,280 --> 00:01:34,320 Speaker 1: but there will be some seven and seven and uh. 27 00:01:34,360 --> 00:01:35,840 Speaker 1: And I went on one work which we didn't have 28 00:01:35,920 --> 00:01:38,200 Speaker 1: last week. Here's a valid question, will they wear shoes 29 00:01:38,280 --> 00:01:40,520 Speaker 1: or sandals? There were two or three teams last week 30 00:01:40,520 --> 00:01:45,959 Speaker 1: that were sandals the practice field because they wanted to 31 00:01:46,000 --> 00:01:49,480 Speaker 1: control the speed of the practice sessions, which I had 32 00:01:49,520 --> 00:01:52,280 Speaker 1: never heard of before. That's a way to do it. 33 00:01:52,400 --> 00:01:53,960 Speaker 1: I don't think it's gonna be the Urban way. That 34 00:01:54,040 --> 00:01:57,680 Speaker 1: will not be the Jaguar owning the emblem. No, that's 35 00:01:57,720 --> 00:01:59,600 Speaker 1: not how it's gonna work here. But what it shouldn't 36 00:01:59,600 --> 00:02:08,360 Speaker 1: be kind about. Look, it's okay to run a little 37 00:02:08,400 --> 00:02:12,680 Speaker 1: bit in the off season. I just don't believe that 38 00:02:13,639 --> 00:02:17,000 Speaker 1: these players come You guys have been before. You've been 39 00:02:17,040 --> 00:02:20,720 Speaker 1: to off seasons before. Do you really believe that the 40 00:02:20,800 --> 00:02:26,240 Speaker 1: players are being that taxed during that for a week period? No? 41 00:02:26,480 --> 00:02:30,240 Speaker 1: I mean, and now you have heard reports and now 42 00:02:30,280 --> 00:02:34,560 Speaker 1: people talking about too much contact during that. UM, I 43 00:02:34,639 --> 00:02:37,239 Speaker 1: kind of get that there, did you know, if you're 44 00:02:37,240 --> 00:02:39,760 Speaker 1: doing one on one pass rush during that and no pads, 45 00:02:40,440 --> 00:02:42,600 Speaker 1: that's a little much. But to be running this time 46 00:02:42,600 --> 00:02:46,840 Speaker 1: of year, Um, Again, they're not going to training camp 47 00:02:47,320 --> 00:02:49,160 Speaker 1: for six weeks or for eight weeks like they used 48 00:02:49,160 --> 00:02:51,400 Speaker 1: to in the sixties. You've got to play football at 49 00:02:51,400 --> 00:02:54,160 Speaker 1: some point. It's okay to do it. I'm padded. In May, 50 00:02:54,320 --> 00:02:59,160 Speaker 1: are athletes found the table? John athletes run. That's what 51 00:02:59,240 --> 00:03:02,960 Speaker 1: athletes are used to do. So, but they don't run 52 00:03:03,240 --> 00:03:07,200 Speaker 1: in December, at least, that's what Tom Brady said. But 53 00:03:07,240 --> 00:03:12,320 Speaker 1: it is May, different guys. May. There is near perfect 54 00:03:12,320 --> 00:03:15,120 Speaker 1: attendance at least in Phase two last week in a 55 00:03:15,240 --> 00:03:19,720 Speaker 1: voluntary period. Only a couple of guys were missing last week. 56 00:03:19,800 --> 00:03:22,560 Speaker 1: And you know, as we were talked to a couple 57 00:03:22,639 --> 00:03:26,799 Speaker 1: of guys after what was that Wednesday's practice, and there 58 00:03:26,919 --> 00:03:30,320 Speaker 1: is an energy, there's a feeling out there that, you know, 59 00:03:30,360 --> 00:03:33,880 Speaker 1: what we want to be in this environment. And the 60 00:03:33,919 --> 00:03:36,400 Speaker 1: guys we talked to at least believed in urban believe 61 00:03:36,480 --> 00:03:38,080 Speaker 1: in the message, and that's why a lot of these 62 00:03:38,120 --> 00:03:40,040 Speaker 1: guys are here. It sounds like, yeah, you look at 63 00:03:40,040 --> 00:03:42,640 Speaker 1: all the leaders in the units and the groups like 64 00:03:42,680 --> 00:03:44,320 Speaker 1: the Shack Griffins who want to be here, and a 65 00:03:44,360 --> 00:03:46,400 Speaker 1: lot of these guys are new. But I think when 66 00:03:46,440 --> 00:03:48,840 Speaker 1: you look at the team as a whole, a lot 67 00:03:48,880 --> 00:03:50,520 Speaker 1: of times we say that you kind of have to 68 00:03:50,560 --> 00:03:53,040 Speaker 1: be here or else you've forgotten about, and it's very 69 00:03:53,120 --> 00:03:55,120 Speaker 1: it's frank, but the ben bartch Is of the world, 70 00:03:55,320 --> 00:03:58,000 Speaker 1: they be here. The vast majority of players, not in 71 00:03:58,040 --> 00:04:01,960 Speaker 1: this city alone, but in all NFL franchises are guys 72 00:04:01,960 --> 00:04:04,120 Speaker 1: who have to earn their roster spot. I mean the 73 00:04:04,200 --> 00:04:07,480 Speaker 1: vast majority. And we saw that with the last vote 74 00:04:07,600 --> 00:04:10,240 Speaker 1: in the c b A how those players came out 75 00:04:10,360 --> 00:04:13,200 Speaker 1: to vote in favor of getting the deal done. Because 76 00:04:13,200 --> 00:04:15,520 Speaker 1: they're the guys whose careers are three years or shorter, 77 00:04:15,800 --> 00:04:18,640 Speaker 1: who make just over the league minimum on average. There 78 00:04:18,640 --> 00:04:20,320 Speaker 1: are a lot of guys who want to be seen. 79 00:04:20,480 --> 00:04:22,840 Speaker 1: I don't discount the energy you got a guy like 80 00:04:22,920 --> 00:04:25,240 Speaker 1: Check Reckon that you're talking about, who wants to be 81 00:04:25,360 --> 00:04:29,800 Speaker 1: here and wants to help create the culture without a doubt. 82 00:04:30,080 --> 00:04:33,240 Speaker 1: But the vast majority of players or guys who need 83 00:04:33,279 --> 00:04:35,920 Speaker 1: to be here, not just want to be here. And 84 00:04:36,000 --> 00:04:38,680 Speaker 1: in the first year of a new regime. You know, 85 00:04:38,920 --> 00:04:40,360 Speaker 1: it's like any you guys ever had a job. We 86 00:04:40,400 --> 00:04:41,720 Speaker 1: had a new boss. I was a Sadden. He started 87 00:04:41,720 --> 00:04:46,279 Speaker 1: showing up on time the next right, So there's a 88 00:04:46,279 --> 00:04:49,440 Speaker 1: little bit of that element to it. But on the 89 00:04:49,480 --> 00:04:51,799 Speaker 1: flip side of that, and on the serious football side, 90 00:04:52,640 --> 00:04:55,240 Speaker 1: I've been saying ever since this O T a U 91 00:04:55,960 --> 00:04:59,480 Speaker 1: voluntary controversy if you call it, that cropped up again 92 00:04:59,520 --> 00:05:02,640 Speaker 1: as if see and for teams that have new things, 93 00:05:03,200 --> 00:05:06,320 Speaker 1: new offensive coordinator, new head coach, you know, it's very 94 00:05:06,360 --> 00:05:10,240 Speaker 1: important and I think you see higher attendance in Urban 95 00:05:10,320 --> 00:05:14,240 Speaker 1: Meyer's third year. Does you know, throw out a name 96 00:05:14,240 --> 00:05:16,200 Speaker 1: by Brandon Lender if he's down the roster at that point, 97 00:05:16,839 --> 00:05:19,800 Speaker 1: Is Brandon Lender here for full O T A S 98 00:05:19,960 --> 00:05:21,520 Speaker 1: in the third year of a coaching staff. Does he 99 00:05:21,560 --> 00:05:23,120 Speaker 1: even need to be? Is it even smart for him 100 00:05:23,120 --> 00:05:26,000 Speaker 1: to be? It's a different question. But in a new 101 00:05:26,080 --> 00:05:29,120 Speaker 1: situation with a new offense, if you're a wide receiver, 102 00:05:29,920 --> 00:05:31,719 Speaker 1: I think you want to be here and I think 103 00:05:31,720 --> 00:05:34,039 Speaker 1: it and I don't think it's forced. I think it's 104 00:05:34,080 --> 00:05:36,840 Speaker 1: just smart. You want to learn so you're ready in 105 00:05:36,880 --> 00:05:40,600 Speaker 1: training camp. This is Jaguars reporters check out the Official 106 00:05:40,640 --> 00:05:44,440 Speaker 1: Jaguars Podcast Network or free subscription on Apple, iTunes or Spotify. 107 00:05:44,600 --> 00:05:47,279 Speaker 1: Of course, this program every Monday, the Huddle Up Pot. 108 00:05:47,320 --> 00:05:50,520 Speaker 1: On Wednesdays he goes on podcast Drive Time Happy Hour 109 00:05:50,880 --> 00:05:53,720 Speaker 1: and give us that five star rating. Let's get into 110 00:05:53,760 --> 00:05:56,600 Speaker 1: big things this week. Brian Sexton kick us off. I'm 111 00:05:56,640 --> 00:05:58,800 Speaker 1: gonna deal with the elephant in the room. Last night, 112 00:05:58,839 --> 00:06:02,080 Speaker 1: I was at a wine to hasting and someone wanted 113 00:06:02,080 --> 00:06:04,920 Speaker 1: to start talking about the Jaguars, and I immediately turned 114 00:06:04,920 --> 00:06:09,800 Speaker 1: the conversation to Trevor Lawrence and the quarterback and the franchise, 115 00:06:10,200 --> 00:06:13,960 Speaker 1: and I was shut down with tebow Mania. So they 116 00:06:14,000 --> 00:06:17,600 Speaker 1: signed him last week. And this is not about him 117 00:06:17,680 --> 00:06:20,120 Speaker 1: the tight end or any of that other than I 118 00:06:20,160 --> 00:06:22,760 Speaker 1: am still amazed. And I've lived in this town for 119 00:06:22,760 --> 00:06:25,120 Speaker 1: twenty seven years, so I saw him in high school 120 00:06:25,600 --> 00:06:28,400 Speaker 1: and at the University of Florida, and through the NFL 121 00:06:28,839 --> 00:06:31,279 Speaker 1: and into baseball and through his National Night Out. Is 122 00:06:31,279 --> 00:06:34,440 Speaker 1: that what that is that he does with the night 123 00:06:34,520 --> 00:06:37,039 Speaker 1: shine night Shine? Right? Okay, I've seen it all. I 124 00:06:37,040 --> 00:06:39,680 Speaker 1: mean I've seen it all, and I am still I 125 00:06:39,720 --> 00:06:44,279 Speaker 1: was amazed. Last night. Um at tebow Mania, he was 126 00:06:44,279 --> 00:06:47,520 Speaker 1: the number one jersey sale, one day last week. Uh, 127 00:06:47,560 --> 00:06:51,320 Speaker 1: it's it is a collective statement on behalf of people 128 00:06:51,360 --> 00:06:54,000 Speaker 1: who love who he is and what he represents. Again, 129 00:06:54,040 --> 00:06:59,000 Speaker 1: forget the football for a moment that they responded so overwhelmingly, 130 00:06:59,120 --> 00:07:02,799 Speaker 1: And I understand why urban Meyer and his PR team 131 00:07:02,839 --> 00:07:05,599 Speaker 1: are soft selling it and trying to just keep it 132 00:07:05,680 --> 00:07:10,040 Speaker 1: under wraps because it can become all consuming. Um. But 133 00:07:10,120 --> 00:07:13,480 Speaker 1: there is a very vocal group of people who don't 134 00:07:13,520 --> 00:07:15,120 Speaker 1: want to hear about Trevor Lawrence. They want to hear 135 00:07:15,120 --> 00:07:17,840 Speaker 1: about Tim Tebow. Just gonna say it, it's crazy, And 136 00:07:17,840 --> 00:07:20,360 Speaker 1: I think that's the exact right way to handle it 137 00:07:20,520 --> 00:07:22,840 Speaker 1: in this building is he is just a teammate. He 138 00:07:22,960 --> 00:07:24,520 Speaker 1: is just a guy in the locker room trying to 139 00:07:24,520 --> 00:07:26,400 Speaker 1: make the team. He's no different than a Ben bart 140 00:07:26,440 --> 00:07:28,480 Speaker 1: And that's why you have to treat it, because if 141 00:07:28,560 --> 00:07:31,239 Speaker 1: you allow it to grow like it is outside this building, 142 00:07:31,600 --> 00:07:33,080 Speaker 1: that's not what they brought him in here to do. 143 00:07:33,240 --> 00:07:35,480 Speaker 1: So I completely agree with the way it's being handled, 144 00:07:35,520 --> 00:07:37,200 Speaker 1: and I think it should be that way. I think 145 00:07:37,200 --> 00:07:40,880 Speaker 1: that's why we might not hear from him for a while, 146 00:07:41,000 --> 00:07:44,040 Speaker 1: if at all, until you know, training camp rolls around 147 00:07:44,120 --> 00:07:46,560 Speaker 1: something like that that might be a storyline that's closer 148 00:07:46,600 --> 00:07:49,920 Speaker 1: to the season because you know, this way, you can 149 00:07:49,920 --> 00:07:53,280 Speaker 1: control that storyline at least internally. Right now, anything that's 150 00:07:53,320 --> 00:07:55,680 Speaker 1: out there publicly from the team on this is going 151 00:07:55,720 --> 00:07:58,800 Speaker 1: to get blown up times a thousand. John. Yeah. And 152 00:07:59,200 --> 00:08:00,800 Speaker 1: it's been a topic obviously for a couple of weeks 153 00:08:00,800 --> 00:08:04,320 Speaker 1: in the other zone, and I continue to say, this 154 00:08:04,480 --> 00:08:06,200 Speaker 1: is not a you know, and I get a lot 155 00:08:06,200 --> 00:08:10,360 Speaker 1: of naysayers today, this is a problem in the locker room. Um, 156 00:08:10,400 --> 00:08:14,000 Speaker 1: I think the delineation point there is pretty clear. He's 157 00:08:14,040 --> 00:08:17,040 Speaker 1: one of ninety right now. They're out of the ninety 158 00:08:17,080 --> 00:08:20,000 Speaker 1: guys down there, there are there are a ten to 159 00:08:20,080 --> 00:08:23,520 Speaker 1: fifteen who when we walk out in training camp, you'll 160 00:08:23,560 --> 00:08:25,760 Speaker 1: be able to say pretty securely they won't be on 161 00:08:25,800 --> 00:08:29,080 Speaker 1: the pretty quick. That's just the reality of the NFL. 162 00:08:29,160 --> 00:08:32,160 Speaker 1: Doesn't mean they won't be someday. It's just we've all 163 00:08:32,200 --> 00:08:34,360 Speaker 1: been to training camps where you pretty much know there's 164 00:08:34,960 --> 00:08:38,200 Speaker 1: thirteen guys you get cut who aren't a surprise. So 165 00:08:38,280 --> 00:08:44,120 Speaker 1: the ninety man roster for NFL players is not something 166 00:08:44,160 --> 00:08:46,760 Speaker 1: where they think, oh, this guy has to be a 167 00:08:46,840 --> 00:08:50,679 Speaker 1: quote baller to be here. You're trying to work your 168 00:08:50,679 --> 00:08:53,000 Speaker 1: way onto a team now you better be able to 169 00:08:53,000 --> 00:08:55,360 Speaker 1: contribute if you're on the fifty three. So to me, 170 00:08:55,440 --> 00:08:58,480 Speaker 1: there's no problem in the locker room. If he proves 171 00:08:58,480 --> 00:09:02,120 Speaker 1: he can contribute and he's open the team win, there 172 00:09:02,120 --> 00:09:05,679 Speaker 1: will be zero divisiveness over this. Now, if he can't 173 00:09:05,679 --> 00:09:07,480 Speaker 1: play and he's on the team, that's a different issue. 174 00:09:07,480 --> 00:09:11,040 Speaker 1: But I don't see that happening because for whatever, I've 175 00:09:11,080 --> 00:09:15,120 Speaker 1: been getting many many emails about well, he's friends with Tim, 176 00:09:15,200 --> 00:09:18,959 Speaker 1: so that's why he's here. Well, I'm sure when they 177 00:09:19,000 --> 00:09:21,839 Speaker 1: see each other, Hey, Tim, Hey, coach, how you doing good? 178 00:09:22,720 --> 00:09:24,160 Speaker 1: Do you really think he's keeping him if you can 179 00:09:24,200 --> 00:09:28,679 Speaker 1: out the team? I mean Urban, right is there? I 180 00:09:28,720 --> 00:09:31,319 Speaker 1: mean shake hands, Hey, Hey, we'll have a drink and 181 00:09:31,360 --> 00:09:34,280 Speaker 1: not talking about the hisman later, but we gotta go 182 00:09:34,280 --> 00:09:36,679 Speaker 1: win games. So I'm just making the point. I don't 183 00:09:36,720 --> 00:09:40,600 Speaker 1: think for a minute Urban Meyers doing this. Yes, because 184 00:09:40,600 --> 00:09:45,600 Speaker 1: he knows Tim Tebow, but he wouldn't be what he 185 00:09:45,679 --> 00:09:48,920 Speaker 1: knows about Tim Tebow tells him he can in some 186 00:09:48,960 --> 00:09:50,760 Speaker 1: capacity to help him win, or he wouldn't be doing it. 187 00:09:50,960 --> 00:09:52,840 Speaker 1: Last thought on that, and that is just that. The 188 00:09:52,960 --> 00:09:56,880 Speaker 1: more outrage from outside, whether it's on social media or ESPN, 189 00:09:56,920 --> 00:10:00,959 Speaker 1: who was at Marcus Spears or whoever a wallet agun 190 00:10:01,040 --> 00:10:03,719 Speaker 1: La name we haven't heard in forever. Former Bear and 191 00:10:03,800 --> 00:10:07,320 Speaker 1: Dolphin pass rusher was was pretty vocal about it. The 192 00:10:07,360 --> 00:10:10,840 Speaker 1: more outrage that's outside of this area, the more people 193 00:10:10,920 --> 00:10:14,000 Speaker 1: come to his defense. It's a self fulfilling media prophecy. 194 00:10:14,280 --> 00:10:16,880 Speaker 1: It's a story without an end. It keeps going and 195 00:10:16,920 --> 00:10:19,680 Speaker 1: going and going. So they're doing the smart thing. They're 196 00:10:19,720 --> 00:10:23,960 Speaker 1: just trying to keep it from becoming anything. At this point, 197 00:10:24,240 --> 00:10:27,880 Speaker 1: while he was out right, apparently he was. It was 198 00:10:27,960 --> 00:10:31,960 Speaker 1: my neighbor Bill outright. I you know, I'm not you know, 199 00:10:32,000 --> 00:10:34,160 Speaker 1: I'm not you know, I'm not a big social media guy. 200 00:10:34,240 --> 00:10:36,040 Speaker 1: But one of my sons showed it to me the 201 00:10:36,040 --> 00:10:38,760 Speaker 1: other day and he goes, Dad, who is this guy? 202 00:10:38,760 --> 00:10:40,240 Speaker 1: And I went, well, it used to be a pretty 203 00:10:40,240 --> 00:10:42,840 Speaker 1: good pass rusher, but it's been a long time, to 204 00:10:42,880 --> 00:10:44,040 Speaker 1: be honest with you, I was just proud that I 205 00:10:44,040 --> 00:10:47,439 Speaker 1: could still pronounce his name all these years later. The 206 00:10:47,920 --> 00:10:54,960 Speaker 1: guy lawns right, right, that's what it is. It just 207 00:10:55,040 --> 00:10:57,280 Speaker 1: like this. It could keep going. At some point you 208 00:10:57,280 --> 00:10:58,680 Speaker 1: have to cut it off, and that's what the jag 209 00:10:58,679 --> 00:11:01,520 Speaker 1: Wars have done, and we will cut this discussion off 210 00:11:01,559 --> 00:11:04,360 Speaker 1: here and move along in big things, Ashlan Sullivan, what 211 00:11:04,400 --> 00:11:06,840 Speaker 1: you got? Well, we mentioned that we spoke to Shack 212 00:11:06,920 --> 00:11:10,120 Speaker 1: Griffin and Levisca Hill and James Robinson last week, and 213 00:11:10,760 --> 00:11:12,880 Speaker 1: after speaking with Shack Griffin that was the first time 214 00:11:12,920 --> 00:11:15,000 Speaker 1: I got the chance to talk to him, and I 215 00:11:15,040 --> 00:11:17,400 Speaker 1: was blown away. I mean, everything you hear about this 216 00:11:17,440 --> 00:11:19,800 Speaker 1: guy is what a great leader he is. And I've 217 00:11:19,800 --> 00:11:23,119 Speaker 1: been using the word electric a lot lately, good adjective. 218 00:11:23,480 --> 00:11:27,160 Speaker 1: That man is electric, lots of energy on the field 219 00:11:27,200 --> 00:11:30,280 Speaker 1: and off of it. And I left thinking, we've kind 220 00:11:30,280 --> 00:11:33,840 Speaker 1: of forgotten about this guy, this splash free agency signing, 221 00:11:33,840 --> 00:11:36,240 Speaker 1: that's going to be a highly contributing piece to the 222 00:11:36,240 --> 00:11:39,640 Speaker 1: cornerback room, and we don't talk enough about him, right. 223 00:11:40,160 --> 00:11:43,760 Speaker 1: I found it interesting in our conversation that I never 224 00:11:43,760 --> 00:11:47,520 Speaker 1: really thought about this C. J. Henderson is most likely 225 00:11:47,640 --> 00:11:51,319 Speaker 1: the only starter returning to that lineup in the secondary 226 00:11:51,400 --> 00:11:54,319 Speaker 1: next year on paper right now? Right, well, who is 227 00:11:54,360 --> 00:11:57,439 Speaker 1: the leadership of that secondary? Who are guys you can 228 00:11:57,520 --> 00:12:01,480 Speaker 1: lean on that run the room, that get guys going, Well, 229 00:12:01,600 --> 00:12:04,080 Speaker 1: it's a guy like him, And he said he took 230 00:12:04,120 --> 00:12:07,319 Speaker 1: the entire defense out to a Brazilian steakhouse here in town. 231 00:12:08,080 --> 00:12:13,120 Speaker 1: Uh kind of eye Taco Tuesday every Tuesday with the 232 00:12:13,160 --> 00:12:16,439 Speaker 1: secondary guys in their families at his apartment right now 233 00:12:16,520 --> 00:12:21,400 Speaker 1: soon to be house. So okay, he's that's a good start. 234 00:12:22,080 --> 00:12:24,000 Speaker 1: He can play too, right, I mean you paid him 235 00:12:24,080 --> 00:12:26,199 Speaker 1: for three years, forty million, twenty four and a half 236 00:12:26,240 --> 00:12:28,680 Speaker 1: guaranteed he better be able to bring the heat on 237 00:12:28,679 --> 00:12:31,160 Speaker 1: the field. It sounds like you can. So I like 238 00:12:31,240 --> 00:12:33,280 Speaker 1: all of this. John. I think he's clearly later. That's 239 00:12:33,280 --> 00:12:35,360 Speaker 1: clearly why they signed him because they knew would be 240 00:12:35,840 --> 00:12:39,160 Speaker 1: a year of transition back there. I think CJ is 241 00:12:39,200 --> 00:12:41,760 Speaker 1: the only starter coming back, but I don't think he 242 00:12:41,800 --> 00:12:45,079 Speaker 1: has qualified himself on the field yet. To be a 243 00:12:45,160 --> 00:12:47,520 Speaker 1: leader in this league, you have to make plays to 244 00:12:47,520 --> 00:12:50,240 Speaker 1: be a leader, and I think Chicol Griffin is definitely 245 00:12:50,240 --> 00:12:52,640 Speaker 1: that guy. He fits that role. He comes from a 246 00:12:52,640 --> 00:12:55,800 Speaker 1: place where they're used to winning. Uh So all the 247 00:12:55,840 --> 00:12:59,360 Speaker 1: boxes are checked in terms of uh, him being what 248 00:12:59,400 --> 00:13:02,120 Speaker 1: you wanted. Signs lead into this as we're not talking 249 00:13:02,160 --> 00:13:05,280 Speaker 1: enough about Shaq Griffin or fixing that out. Yeah, that 250 00:13:05,360 --> 00:13:07,800 Speaker 1: was why it was my topic. You talk about the 251 00:13:07,840 --> 00:13:10,400 Speaker 1: leadership back there. He you know, they brought in his 252 00:13:10,440 --> 00:13:13,960 Speaker 1: buddy Rashion Jenkins from San Diego. And and you know 253 00:13:14,320 --> 00:13:17,280 Speaker 1: that wasn't by accident. I'm sure to have two guys 254 00:13:17,320 --> 00:13:20,400 Speaker 1: who know each other who have the same because I 255 00:13:20,440 --> 00:13:22,880 Speaker 1: was impressed when we talked to Too Jenkins back when 256 00:13:22,920 --> 00:13:25,280 Speaker 1: they signed him that he was very similar in his 257 00:13:25,360 --> 00:13:29,840 Speaker 1: demeanor and approach to Griffin. So assuming that these two 258 00:13:29,840 --> 00:13:33,040 Speaker 1: guys can play off of one another, I think you 259 00:13:33,080 --> 00:13:35,560 Speaker 1: step in with a much stronger secondary, both in the 260 00:13:35,600 --> 00:13:39,319 Speaker 1: classroom and on the field. Let's move along on big 261 00:13:39,360 --> 00:13:41,640 Speaker 1: things this week. I'll go next. And we we touched 262 00:13:41,640 --> 00:13:44,520 Speaker 1: on this in our first point just a moment ago. 263 00:13:44,679 --> 00:13:48,920 Speaker 1: But don't let the noise around the Jaguars distract you 264 00:13:49,000 --> 00:13:54,080 Speaker 1: from the fact that Trevor Lawrence is the most important story. John. 265 00:13:54,120 --> 00:13:57,360 Speaker 1: You've made this point before and over the last few weeks, 266 00:13:57,400 --> 00:14:01,920 Speaker 1: whenever things have come up whatever. Yeah, but Trevor Lawrence. 267 00:14:02,360 --> 00:14:06,040 Speaker 1: You know that's the answer to to pretty much everything. Um. 268 00:14:06,080 --> 00:14:08,360 Speaker 1: You know, there's a lot of urban Meyer did this 269 00:14:09,040 --> 00:14:11,440 Speaker 1: out of the national media right now? Urban Meyer did that. 270 00:14:11,520 --> 00:14:14,400 Speaker 1: E t n s playing wide receiver. It's tebow time, 271 00:14:14,440 --> 00:14:18,080 Speaker 1: there's changes in the coaching staff. How's it going in Jacksonville? Bill? 272 00:14:18,480 --> 00:14:22,320 Speaker 1: The answer every time, how it's going is Trevor Lawrence 273 00:14:22,440 --> 00:14:25,440 Speaker 1: is on the team. He still has to go put 274 00:14:25,440 --> 00:14:27,440 Speaker 1: in the work and earn the respect of his teammates 275 00:14:27,440 --> 00:14:30,480 Speaker 1: and coaches, which we all think he will. But when 276 00:14:30,480 --> 00:14:32,920 Speaker 1: he does, look out, Trevor Lawrence is on the football team. 277 00:14:33,040 --> 00:14:34,440 Speaker 1: That's the answer. That's how it's going. I want to 278 00:14:34,440 --> 00:14:36,440 Speaker 1: weigh in with this quick thought. He's the most important 279 00:14:36,440 --> 00:14:41,080 Speaker 1: story I think that has happened to this franchise, if 280 00:14:41,080 --> 00:14:43,280 Speaker 1: not one of the two or three most important, ever, 281 00:14:43,320 --> 00:14:46,040 Speaker 1: he's right near the very top. Yes, this is the 282 00:14:46,080 --> 00:14:48,400 Speaker 1: biggest story that's happened to the Jaguars. And I've been 283 00:14:48,440 --> 00:14:52,120 Speaker 1: here since the beginning. You have to John Um what 284 00:14:52,200 --> 00:14:56,040 Speaker 1: he means to this franchise is well, we could take 285 00:14:56,040 --> 00:14:58,240 Speaker 1: the whole podcast and that that plays to your point, 286 00:14:58,440 --> 00:15:01,680 Speaker 1: which is it's not just a big story. It's the 287 00:15:01,720 --> 00:15:05,400 Speaker 1: biggest story. And I think the reason that there's going 288 00:15:05,520 --> 00:15:09,560 Speaker 1: to not be a whole lot of discussion around him 289 00:15:09,840 --> 00:15:14,640 Speaker 1: is uh, within the Tebow framework. I get questions all 290 00:15:14,640 --> 00:15:18,600 Speaker 1: the time, well, this is taking away from what people 291 00:15:18,640 --> 00:15:21,400 Speaker 1: ought to be talking about, and that's Trevor Lawrence. Well, 292 00:15:22,000 --> 00:15:23,800 Speaker 1: who cares that people ought to be talking about? May 293 00:15:24,160 --> 00:15:26,640 Speaker 1: does that really matter, And I mean, urban Meyer is 294 00:15:26,640 --> 00:15:28,760 Speaker 1: not sitting down. They're going, Okay, what's the narrative going 295 00:15:28,800 --> 00:15:31,200 Speaker 1: to be on May Night? So that's what I need 296 00:15:31,240 --> 00:15:34,000 Speaker 1: to do because John's gonna have to answer thirteen questions 297 00:15:34,000 --> 00:15:36,080 Speaker 1: that I mean, But it gets that grain that when 298 00:15:36,080 --> 00:15:37,960 Speaker 1: people are talking about this is a debate because Tebow 299 00:15:38,000 --> 00:15:41,680 Speaker 1: is still polarizing. But the reason that we're not going 300 00:15:41,720 --> 00:15:44,760 Speaker 1: to talk about Trevor very much, maybe even in O 301 00:15:44,920 --> 00:15:47,880 Speaker 1: T A s maybe not in minicamp, maybe not until 302 00:15:48,080 --> 00:15:50,640 Speaker 1: you know, and perhaps even until we see preseason games. 303 00:15:50,880 --> 00:15:54,000 Speaker 1: We already assume what he is. We assume he's good. 304 00:15:54,320 --> 00:15:57,480 Speaker 1: There's not much mystery until he's good. The talking points 305 00:15:57,480 --> 00:15:59,120 Speaker 1: are going to be once we start seeing him on 306 00:15:59,160 --> 00:16:02,240 Speaker 1: the field, to comparing him to what we thought he 307 00:16:02,280 --> 00:16:04,520 Speaker 1: was going to be. Right now, we can talk about 308 00:16:04,520 --> 00:16:06,800 Speaker 1: the hair, which is beautiful, shrine by the way, um 309 00:16:06,880 --> 00:16:12,240 Speaker 1: and it until he throws a pass in a game, 310 00:16:13,040 --> 00:16:17,000 Speaker 1: there's not much narrative to go against what we already think. 311 00:16:17,240 --> 00:16:18,520 Speaker 1: So I don't think we're gonna talk about it a 312 00:16:18,520 --> 00:16:21,120 Speaker 1: whole lot. But isn't it wonderful he's there? And it's 313 00:16:21,200 --> 00:16:24,960 Speaker 1: we've also known about it since November December. We've known 314 00:16:25,040 --> 00:16:27,160 Speaker 1: for so long that this was happening. It's almost like 315 00:16:27,160 --> 00:16:29,600 Speaker 1: we prepared ourselves and when we see him, it's not 316 00:16:29,640 --> 00:16:32,000 Speaker 1: really a surprise. We had the nugget about the play 317 00:16:32,040 --> 00:16:33,640 Speaker 1: calling in the helm and you're like, okay, that's an 318 00:16:33,640 --> 00:16:39,040 Speaker 1: adjustment that was one day. Now what I got a 319 00:16:39,080 --> 00:16:42,200 Speaker 1: lot of questions from Ozen readers about why don't they 320 00:16:42,200 --> 00:16:45,320 Speaker 1: talk about Trevor more on ESPN. Law, I have no idea. 321 00:16:45,360 --> 00:16:47,800 Speaker 1: I don't work for ESPN, but that's you know, it 322 00:16:47,800 --> 00:16:49,920 Speaker 1: makes people angry. We don't hear about Trevor on ESPN. 323 00:16:49,960 --> 00:16:53,680 Speaker 1: We hear more about Zach Wilson. Well, it's because people 324 00:16:53,800 --> 00:16:57,560 Speaker 1: nationally don't know how Zach Wilson's gonna look. They don't 325 00:16:57,600 --> 00:17:01,240 Speaker 1: know how you discuss mac jone more exactly right, because 326 00:17:01,280 --> 00:17:02,680 Speaker 1: you have no idea what he's really going to be. 327 00:17:03,040 --> 00:17:05,440 Speaker 1: The assumption nationally is that this kid is going to 328 00:17:05,520 --> 00:17:08,480 Speaker 1: be great from day one. I mean, now, I don't 329 00:17:08,480 --> 00:17:11,080 Speaker 1: know if that's true, but that's sort of the assumption. 330 00:17:11,119 --> 00:17:13,479 Speaker 1: Is we enough to worry about that. That's good. So 331 00:17:13,480 --> 00:17:15,240 Speaker 1: I think you're gonna hear very much about him until 332 00:17:15,280 --> 00:17:17,440 Speaker 1: probably training camp people start coming in and seeing how 333 00:17:17,440 --> 00:17:19,359 Speaker 1: he's actually doing. There has never been a player in 334 00:17:19,440 --> 00:17:22,840 Speaker 1: Jaguars history about whom you could say that that everyone 335 00:17:22,880 --> 00:17:25,600 Speaker 1: just assumes he's ready to go. People don't even think 336 00:17:25,600 --> 00:17:28,400 Speaker 1: Fred Taylor right. They didn't, And they worried about Tony 337 00:17:28,400 --> 00:17:31,200 Speaker 1: Boselli's knee and how long it would hold up early 338 00:17:31,240 --> 00:17:33,760 Speaker 1: in his career. This is the only guy who's ever 339 00:17:33,840 --> 00:17:35,560 Speaker 1: walked in the doors where people go, yeah, we know 340 00:17:35,600 --> 00:17:37,879 Speaker 1: what he is. Yep, he's gonna be the storm SMANI 341 00:17:41,119 --> 00:17:44,879 Speaker 1: I love, Oh, what a great guy. And when he arrived, 342 00:17:44,880 --> 00:17:48,240 Speaker 1: you're like, where did he come from? Our final big 343 00:17:48,280 --> 00:17:52,959 Speaker 1: thing for this podcast today is John Well And and 344 00:17:53,000 --> 00:17:55,000 Speaker 1: people hear this and think, John, this isn't a big thing. 345 00:17:55,040 --> 00:17:56,560 Speaker 1: This is a small thing. And that's the whole point. 346 00:17:58,119 --> 00:18:00,760 Speaker 1: No one will talk about James Robbins an all offseason, 347 00:18:01,560 --> 00:18:04,000 Speaker 1: but he'll be a huge story in September. And I 348 00:18:04,000 --> 00:18:05,600 Speaker 1: started thinking about this when I was talking to him 349 00:18:05,600 --> 00:18:09,440 Speaker 1: on the field the other day, and he's just it. 350 00:18:10,080 --> 00:18:11,960 Speaker 1: It was the first time I had met him because 351 00:18:11,960 --> 00:18:15,320 Speaker 1: everything was virtual last year, and he's exactly what you 352 00:18:15,400 --> 00:18:20,040 Speaker 1: thought he was quiet. Uh, did the interview fine? I 353 00:18:20,119 --> 00:18:22,080 Speaker 1: couldn't wait to leave because it was an interview and 354 00:18:22,080 --> 00:18:25,520 Speaker 1: it's not really his thing. Um, but I don't get 355 00:18:25,600 --> 00:18:27,640 Speaker 1: very many questions about James Robinson. We don't talk about 356 00:18:27,720 --> 00:18:30,399 Speaker 1: James Robinson a whole lot. And then when they drafted E. 357 00:18:30,520 --> 00:18:33,520 Speaker 1: T N. Everybody thought, oh, you know, pushing him out 358 00:18:33,560 --> 00:18:37,040 Speaker 1: the door, what whatever? All that was. Well, I think 359 00:18:37,200 --> 00:18:39,040 Speaker 1: I think the role that e TN is gonna play 360 00:18:39,080 --> 00:18:43,400 Speaker 1: shows you James Robinson's gonna matter, And to me, he's 361 00:18:43,400 --> 00:18:46,600 Speaker 1: a fascinating story next year of how will he fit 362 00:18:46,640 --> 00:18:50,040 Speaker 1: into this offense? How are they going to use him? Um, 363 00:18:50,119 --> 00:18:53,879 Speaker 1: he's not really the explosive running back that E. T 364 00:18:54,000 --> 00:18:58,000 Speaker 1: N and some guys are, but he's incredibly reliable. So 365 00:18:58,119 --> 00:19:00,639 Speaker 1: I think for Urban and the coaches, it's going to 366 00:19:00,720 --> 00:19:04,359 Speaker 1: be interesting as they see what he is and what 367 00:19:04,480 --> 00:19:06,520 Speaker 1: they can get out of him, to see how he's used. 368 00:19:07,119 --> 00:19:10,679 Speaker 1: Four point five yards per carry will always find a 369 00:19:10,800 --> 00:19:13,320 Speaker 1: roster spot in a place on pretty much in the 370 00:19:13,440 --> 00:19:15,520 Speaker 1: NFL team. And as you said, John, the way he 371 00:19:15,640 --> 00:19:18,840 Speaker 1: plays too. I think his longest run was like thirty 372 00:19:18,880 --> 00:19:22,639 Speaker 1: eight yards last year. He rarely lost yardage either. I mean, 373 00:19:22,640 --> 00:19:26,440 Speaker 1: he's always fighting back to the primae, he's falling forward. 374 00:19:26,880 --> 00:19:29,120 Speaker 1: But four and a half yards of carry will play. 375 00:19:29,200 --> 00:19:31,960 Speaker 1: We'll keep in mind also that when he when he 376 00:19:32,000 --> 00:19:34,160 Speaker 1: was on the field, he was the focus of the defense. 377 00:19:34,240 --> 00:19:37,439 Speaker 1: They didn't worry about shutting down the check wards vaunted 378 00:19:37,520 --> 00:19:40,680 Speaker 1: passing attack, right. I mean they knew, especially with all 379 00:19:40,840 --> 00:19:45,480 Speaker 1: the fluctuation and changes at quarterback, they didn't worry about 380 00:19:45,480 --> 00:19:48,360 Speaker 1: a tight end on this roster. They worried about James Robinson. 381 00:19:48,520 --> 00:19:51,040 Speaker 1: And he still was a thousand yard rusher, still average 382 00:19:51,080 --> 00:19:53,480 Speaker 1: four point five yards per carry. It was kind of 383 00:19:53,480 --> 00:19:57,320 Speaker 1: like Maurice Jones drew in two thousand and eleven when 384 00:19:57,359 --> 00:19:59,879 Speaker 1: he led the league in rushing with the worst passing 385 00:20:00,000 --> 00:20:02,399 Speaker 1: attack in football. Then it happens it's the fifties with 386 00:20:02,400 --> 00:20:05,359 Speaker 1: the San Francisco forty niners. It doesn't happen often that 387 00:20:05,480 --> 00:20:09,560 Speaker 1: a guy with everybody's focus on him can succeed like that. 388 00:20:09,840 --> 00:20:13,720 Speaker 1: And James Robinson proved a ton last year. Just most 389 00:20:13,760 --> 00:20:17,480 Speaker 1: people overlooked it because you're right, that's what makes you 390 00:20:17,480 --> 00:20:20,120 Speaker 1: feel optimistic about him and this offensive line. If you're 391 00:20:20,160 --> 00:20:21,919 Speaker 1: able to do that last year and now you have 392 00:20:21,920 --> 00:20:25,040 Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence behind and it just makes you think, what 393 00:20:25,080 --> 00:20:27,400 Speaker 1: can James Robinson do this year? Now? With not all 394 00:20:27,440 --> 00:20:29,800 Speaker 1: the focus on him, you only think he'll improve. Now 395 00:20:30,840 --> 00:20:33,960 Speaker 1: this is Jaguars Reporters and single game tickets are on 396 00:20:34,040 --> 00:20:37,920 Speaker 1: sale now for the twenty one Jaguars season. Visit Jaguars 397 00:20:37,920 --> 00:20:40,400 Speaker 1: dot com. We're called nine oh four six three three 398 00:20:40,480 --> 00:20:43,440 Speaker 1: two thousand. There's a team of representatives ready to help 399 00:20:43,480 --> 00:20:47,640 Speaker 1: you get back in the bank in one time. Now 400 00:20:47,760 --> 00:20:52,560 Speaker 1: for did you hear this? Senior writer John Osan visiting 401 00:20:52,560 --> 00:20:57,360 Speaker 1: with Marvin Jones on the ozone podcast in Spaniel, give 402 00:20:57,400 --> 00:21:01,080 Speaker 1: me a short impression of Jack's theyll but do it 403 00:21:01,160 --> 00:21:09,639 Speaker 1: in Espanol and okay, um Jacksonville, Uh, Jacksonville as won 404 00:21:09,720 --> 00:21:17,080 Speaker 1: I see see without they um um ad in Miami um, 405 00:21:17,160 --> 00:21:24,160 Speaker 1: and it's uh definit definit um soon you know, Muya 406 00:21:24,280 --> 00:21:32,280 Speaker 1: Midley um lambien. So I'm gonna give you a hint. 407 00:21:32,320 --> 00:21:35,159 Speaker 1: My four years of high school Spanish did nothing for me. 408 00:21:37,600 --> 00:21:40,200 Speaker 1: And that's not just because it was thirty years ago. 409 00:21:40,359 --> 00:21:43,480 Speaker 1: But tell me about that. You obviously didn't grow up 410 00:21:43,480 --> 00:21:47,640 Speaker 1: speaking Spanish. This is something that you have learned over time. 411 00:21:48,000 --> 00:21:51,200 Speaker 1: Why the passion um I had I was about to 412 00:21:51,200 --> 00:21:54,400 Speaker 1: start speaking the Spanish. Okay, the death of the passion 413 00:21:55,119 --> 00:21:57,199 Speaker 1: um well I grew up or you know, I grew 414 00:21:57,280 --> 00:21:59,199 Speaker 1: up in the l A area, you know, so I 415 00:21:59,240 --> 00:22:01,639 Speaker 1: grew up around like Latinos, but UM, I think it 416 00:22:01,800 --> 00:22:05,159 Speaker 1: was UM. I went to Costa Rica with with my 417 00:22:05,240 --> 00:22:07,960 Speaker 1: wife and her family, and UM, I was, you know, 418 00:22:07,960 --> 00:22:09,840 Speaker 1: trying to communicate with the people, and I like, I 419 00:22:09,920 --> 00:22:11,760 Speaker 1: like to talk. I like I'm a social you know, 420 00:22:11,800 --> 00:22:13,840 Speaker 1: I like I like the socialize and stuff like that. 421 00:22:14,359 --> 00:22:17,080 Speaker 1: And um, you know when I was over there, I 422 00:22:17,080 --> 00:22:19,040 Speaker 1: couldn't talk to I couldn't speak to anybody. I couldn't 423 00:22:19,040 --> 00:22:21,680 Speaker 1: really understand. I thought I knew a little bit, but um, 424 00:22:21,760 --> 00:22:25,040 Speaker 1: I couldn't understand them. So I was like, Jasmine, I 425 00:22:25,080 --> 00:22:26,560 Speaker 1: got it. I woke up in the middle of the night, 426 00:22:26,560 --> 00:22:27,960 Speaker 1: I was like, I gotta go to Spain, you know, 427 00:22:28,080 --> 00:22:29,880 Speaker 1: just because I thought, you know, I didn't I thought 428 00:22:29,920 --> 00:22:32,520 Speaker 1: that everybody spoke the same Spanish. But you know, when 429 00:22:32,560 --> 00:22:35,199 Speaker 1: I went there, they speak something called, uh, you know, 430 00:22:35,560 --> 00:22:38,280 Speaker 1: a Spanish called caste Jans, so they it's a little 431 00:22:38,280 --> 00:22:42,080 Speaker 1: bit different, um accent and stuff like that, but I 432 00:22:42,119 --> 00:22:44,400 Speaker 1: mean Spanish and Spanish, you know. So I went over there. 433 00:22:44,880 --> 00:22:48,000 Speaker 1: Um I did uh. I did classes eight hours a 434 00:22:48,080 --> 00:22:50,439 Speaker 1: day for one week. So I was over there alone 435 00:22:50,480 --> 00:22:52,720 Speaker 1: for one week. When I first went there, I couldn't 436 00:22:52,720 --> 00:22:55,840 Speaker 1: even order some fish, you know. And then when I left, 437 00:22:55,920 --> 00:22:57,879 Speaker 1: you know, I was telling the taxis where to go 438 00:22:58,000 --> 00:23:00,960 Speaker 1: and do all that stuff. So one week. So yeah, 439 00:23:01,000 --> 00:23:02,879 Speaker 1: so because I put in, I putting a lot of hours, 440 00:23:03,000 --> 00:23:05,040 Speaker 1: you know. So when I got back, it was two 441 00:23:05,040 --> 00:23:10,000 Speaker 1: thousands seventeen. And during that whole season, I took classes. Um. 442 00:23:10,119 --> 00:23:13,320 Speaker 1: I took classes online and I hired two Spanish teachers, UM. 443 00:23:13,359 --> 00:23:16,199 Speaker 1: And I took classes Monday through Friday. So um, I 444 00:23:16,240 --> 00:23:18,720 Speaker 1: did that for the whole season. And then after I 445 00:23:18,720 --> 00:23:21,320 Speaker 1: didn't take classes anymore. I just I just traveled, you know, 446 00:23:21,359 --> 00:23:24,239 Speaker 1: I met people and and and talked and talked with 447 00:23:24,280 --> 00:23:26,879 Speaker 1: the you know, with the with the locals and stuff 448 00:23:26,920 --> 00:23:28,520 Speaker 1: like that. So that's kind of all I do. All 449 00:23:28,520 --> 00:23:30,920 Speaker 1: I do now. Of course, this is just part of 450 00:23:31,320 --> 00:23:34,280 Speaker 1: a nice conversation on the ozone podcast John With with 451 00:23:34,320 --> 00:23:37,040 Speaker 1: Marvin Jones. And I think you could talk to him, 452 00:23:37,040 --> 00:23:40,000 Speaker 1: you know, for multiple podcast or one really long one 453 00:23:40,040 --> 00:23:42,359 Speaker 1: and and not get to the end of his story. 454 00:23:42,400 --> 00:23:45,920 Speaker 1: He's he's a multi layered and and you know, very 455 00:23:45,960 --> 00:23:50,240 Speaker 1: experienced person, not just a football player. Yeah, he's terrific 456 00:23:50,280 --> 00:23:53,840 Speaker 1: I expect him to be terrific. Uh. I asked him 457 00:23:54,040 --> 00:23:56,040 Speaker 1: to give an answer in Spanish and he was able to, 458 00:23:56,160 --> 00:23:59,200 Speaker 1: and then he said he sort of got it. Was interesting, 459 00:23:59,200 --> 00:24:00,480 Speaker 1: he said, he sort of got stuck in that and 460 00:24:00,480 --> 00:24:02,679 Speaker 1: started to answer the next one in Spanish, just because 461 00:24:02,720 --> 00:24:04,920 Speaker 1: that's the way his mind works when he does it. 462 00:24:05,520 --> 00:24:07,800 Speaker 1: I can barely speak English, so to speak two languages 463 00:24:07,920 --> 00:24:11,600 Speaker 1: is sort of beyond my thought. But he's a fascinating guy, 464 00:24:11,680 --> 00:24:14,439 Speaker 1: and he's one that you hope for a lot of 465 00:24:14,440 --> 00:24:17,840 Speaker 1: the media's sake, um and for the fans sake, it 466 00:24:17,840 --> 00:24:24,560 Speaker 1: would it you're hoping this year that COVID breaks enough 467 00:24:25,000 --> 00:24:28,560 Speaker 1: where the media can have access to the players for 468 00:24:28,600 --> 00:24:31,359 Speaker 1: a couple of days on Wednesday and Thursday, And for 469 00:24:31,359 --> 00:24:33,399 Speaker 1: fans who don't know how important that is to the 470 00:24:33,440 --> 00:24:37,360 Speaker 1: story of the team, it's difficult when everything is virtual. 471 00:24:37,920 --> 00:24:39,840 Speaker 1: There are interviews and people you can get to know 472 00:24:39,960 --> 00:24:44,199 Speaker 1: virtually head coach, a couple of star players, but the 473 00:24:46,040 --> 00:24:51,280 Speaker 1: it's difficult for the media to tell the story of 474 00:24:51,280 --> 00:24:54,240 Speaker 1: a guy like Marvin Jones, who who's necessarily a quarterback 475 00:24:54,440 --> 00:24:56,119 Speaker 1: unless they have on the virtual zoom. You don't get 476 00:24:56,160 --> 00:24:58,160 Speaker 1: to know this guy. And there's a lot of stories 477 00:24:58,160 --> 00:25:00,320 Speaker 1: in the locker room like that that you missed last 478 00:25:00,359 --> 00:25:03,840 Speaker 1: year because you only put a couple of guys in 479 00:25:03,840 --> 00:25:06,119 Speaker 1: the zooms a week just because of the of the 480 00:25:06,160 --> 00:25:09,399 Speaker 1: logistics of the situation. So when I was talking to him, 481 00:25:09,440 --> 00:25:12,879 Speaker 1: and after I talked to him, that was my first thought, Boy, 482 00:25:13,160 --> 00:25:15,119 Speaker 1: at least for a couple of days a week, let 483 00:25:15,240 --> 00:25:16,639 Speaker 1: us get back in and get to know some of 484 00:25:16,640 --> 00:25:18,440 Speaker 1: these guys. And I just to play on that for 485 00:25:18,480 --> 00:25:21,720 Speaker 1: a second. You can't get to know someone without being 486 00:25:21,720 --> 00:25:23,680 Speaker 1: able to look him in the eye. And when when 487 00:25:23,720 --> 00:25:27,840 Speaker 1: they're looking at a screen of lots of people, they're 488 00:25:27,880 --> 00:25:30,359 Speaker 1: they're moving all over the place. It's that trust that 489 00:25:30,480 --> 00:25:34,280 Speaker 1: builds in a relationship between a reporter and the player. Hey, 490 00:25:34,280 --> 00:25:36,280 Speaker 1: I'm gonna ask you a question. If you tell me 491 00:25:36,920 --> 00:25:39,240 Speaker 1: this is off the record, I don't you know. I'm 492 00:25:39,240 --> 00:25:41,960 Speaker 1: gonna respect that. They know they can trust you when 493 00:25:42,000 --> 00:25:44,639 Speaker 1: they can look you in the eye. Go Ashlyn, you 494 00:25:44,680 --> 00:25:47,120 Speaker 1: know I trust you from what you said last time 495 00:25:47,200 --> 00:25:49,760 Speaker 1: or what you wrote last time. It's important that those 496 00:25:49,760 --> 00:25:52,440 Speaker 1: guys can answer questions based on the level of trust, 497 00:25:52,520 --> 00:25:55,040 Speaker 1: and you just can't build that looking into someone's eyes 498 00:25:55,080 --> 00:25:58,080 Speaker 1: on a screen. I also I think it's so cool 499 00:25:58,119 --> 00:25:59,840 Speaker 1: to see the relationships in the locker room. And I 500 00:25:59,840 --> 00:26:01,840 Speaker 1: think you find out so much about a player when 501 00:26:01,920 --> 00:26:04,159 Speaker 1: you talk to his teammates and you talked to his 502 00:26:04,240 --> 00:26:06,640 Speaker 1: the other wide receivers and the buddies on the team. 503 00:26:06,680 --> 00:26:08,800 Speaker 1: That's almost my favorite thing of of going around and 504 00:26:08,840 --> 00:26:10,760 Speaker 1: just asking hey, what do you think of Marvin Jones 505 00:26:10,800 --> 00:26:12,880 Speaker 1: and getting the answers from the guys in the room. 506 00:26:12,920 --> 00:26:16,520 Speaker 1: That's for sure something I miss. But circling back tomorrow 507 00:26:16,520 --> 00:26:20,119 Speaker 1: and we talked about you know, um, a fantastic guy 508 00:26:20,840 --> 00:26:23,200 Speaker 1: as fascinating a guy off the field as he is 509 00:26:23,240 --> 00:26:25,919 Speaker 1: on the field. So it's gonna be cool. Check out 510 00:26:25,960 --> 00:26:29,440 Speaker 1: the ozone podcast and the Official Jaguars podcast network. Time 511 00:26:29,480 --> 00:26:33,439 Speaker 1: now for everyone asks And this is the portion of 512 00:26:33,440 --> 00:26:37,000 Speaker 1: the podcast where yes, we all ask a question and 513 00:26:37,240 --> 00:26:40,200 Speaker 1: yes most of us answer it. We're supposed to answer 514 00:26:40,200 --> 00:26:41,639 Speaker 1: it in thirty seconds. Are we going back to that 515 00:26:41,720 --> 00:26:44,320 Speaker 1: rule now? We should? Yes? That what's made it fun? 516 00:26:44,960 --> 00:26:48,840 Speaker 1: Get the buzzer out, Joe John Uh, you will ask 517 00:26:48,880 --> 00:26:52,320 Speaker 1: the first question, please, sir, what answer do you want 518 00:26:52,320 --> 00:26:54,800 Speaker 1: to know? When O t A s end JP, what 519 00:26:54,800 --> 00:26:56,800 Speaker 1: do you want to know about this time? I want 520 00:26:56,800 --> 00:26:59,199 Speaker 1: to know where they need to do more work on 521 00:26:59,240 --> 00:27:01,320 Speaker 1: the roster. You'll see who will be able to run 522 00:27:01,359 --> 00:27:03,600 Speaker 1: in the next three weeks or four weeks. Who can 523 00:27:03,640 --> 00:27:08,280 Speaker 1: retain the basic scheme. If you can't do that, you 524 00:27:08,400 --> 00:27:10,960 Speaker 1: better find somebody else who can. I think tight ends 525 00:27:10,960 --> 00:27:13,199 Speaker 1: the most pressing position because we just don't know a 526 00:27:13,240 --> 00:27:16,760 Speaker 1: lot about that group yet. But you know defensive backs, 527 00:27:16,880 --> 00:27:20,080 Speaker 1: linebackers can they It's a new scheme there too. I 528 00:27:20,119 --> 00:27:22,480 Speaker 1: think that's the answer. I want to know, what else 529 00:27:22,520 --> 00:27:25,680 Speaker 1: do you need to do in terms of building the roster. Yeah, 530 00:27:25,760 --> 00:27:29,119 Speaker 1: it's back, it's pretty good thirty seconds right, Ask what 531 00:27:29,119 --> 00:27:31,080 Speaker 1: are you wanting? I want to know who is going 532 00:27:31,119 --> 00:27:34,520 Speaker 1: to prevail at defensive end. We all know Josh Allen, 533 00:27:34,640 --> 00:27:36,439 Speaker 1: but I think we can look at Caleb and Chason 534 00:27:36,520 --> 00:27:38,840 Speaker 1: and say there's some work to do there. There's some 535 00:27:38,880 --> 00:27:41,199 Speaker 1: strides he needs to make. I'm excited to see Jahad 536 00:27:41,240 --> 00:27:44,200 Speaker 1: Board on the field. That's a very intense guy. I 537 00:27:44,200 --> 00:27:46,120 Speaker 1: think there's a bit of a competition there. You also 538 00:27:46,119 --> 00:27:49,800 Speaker 1: have Ray Robertson, Harris, Jordan Smith, a lot of questions 539 00:27:49,840 --> 00:27:52,880 Speaker 1: around him. I'm excited to see who was coming neck 540 00:27:52,920 --> 00:27:55,760 Speaker 1: and neck with Josh Allen and taking that second role. 541 00:27:56,359 --> 00:27:59,399 Speaker 1: I want to know when training camp opens, not seriously, 542 00:27:59,440 --> 00:28:02,879 Speaker 1: I mean so many can the Jaguar stop they're run 543 00:28:02,920 --> 00:28:06,600 Speaker 1: this year? Right? Have all those things, all those pieces 544 00:28:06,600 --> 00:28:08,880 Speaker 1: that they put in place in scheme that they've worked on, 545 00:28:09,160 --> 00:28:12,240 Speaker 1: have they come to any sort of fruition? But we 546 00:28:12,280 --> 00:28:15,040 Speaker 1: won't know. So tell me when training camp opens and 547 00:28:15,040 --> 00:28:17,600 Speaker 1: I'll be ready to go. Yeah. And I want to 548 00:28:17,640 --> 00:28:19,119 Speaker 1: know a few things again, like I said the top 549 00:28:19,160 --> 00:28:21,120 Speaker 1: of the show, that we won't be able to say 550 00:28:21,119 --> 00:28:22,560 Speaker 1: as much as we like. I want to stort of 551 00:28:22,600 --> 00:28:24,720 Speaker 1: know how this offense is gonna look. Some of the 552 00:28:24,760 --> 00:28:26,480 Speaker 1: things you're gonna be doing. I think we'll be limited 553 00:28:26,480 --> 00:28:28,920 Speaker 1: in what we can share with that. Uh sort of 554 00:28:29,119 --> 00:28:32,600 Speaker 1: who's gonna play where upfront defensively is intriguing. But I 555 00:28:32,600 --> 00:28:35,800 Speaker 1: think one thing we will get a feel for, does 556 00:28:35,840 --> 00:28:37,920 Speaker 1: Tebow look like he can do it? You know, does 557 00:28:37,920 --> 00:28:40,080 Speaker 1: he look like he can move at that position? I 558 00:28:40,120 --> 00:28:41,600 Speaker 1: think you will be able to get a feel for 559 00:28:41,640 --> 00:28:44,200 Speaker 1: that without pads, if he sort of has a feel 560 00:28:44,240 --> 00:28:48,640 Speaker 1: for how to play tight end. We'll see our next question. 561 00:28:49,400 --> 00:28:52,800 Speaker 1: I'll take the next one. If we cut the team today, 562 00:28:52,920 --> 00:28:55,360 Speaker 1: which we won't, but if we did, who are the 563 00:28:55,400 --> 00:28:59,600 Speaker 1: five or six receivers that you're keeping Ashland, This is 564 00:28:59,640 --> 00:29:03,680 Speaker 1: hard the four no brainers, DJ Chart, Colin Johnson, Marvin Jones, 565 00:29:03,720 --> 00:29:09,000 Speaker 1: Flabisco Chanel. Of course, if you go five, Philip Dorset, 566 00:29:09,520 --> 00:29:10,959 Speaker 1: but you really haven't seen much of him. He's an 567 00:29:10,960 --> 00:29:14,160 Speaker 1: explosive guy, Jamal Agnew and then you have Jalen Camp. 568 00:29:14,720 --> 00:29:16,959 Speaker 1: That's a lot of options there. That's gonna be that's 569 00:29:17,000 --> 00:29:19,240 Speaker 1: gonna be a fight even if you keep six. I 570 00:29:19,280 --> 00:29:21,720 Speaker 1: think it's a fight. I would go with Philip Dorset 571 00:29:22,080 --> 00:29:24,440 Speaker 1: right now, just because of the free agency signing and 572 00:29:24,560 --> 00:29:27,840 Speaker 1: the emphasis on speed. But that's gonna be a good 573 00:29:27,840 --> 00:29:31,240 Speaker 1: competition in training camp. I think door set, you know 574 00:29:31,280 --> 00:29:34,080 Speaker 1: they paid him, he's gonna make it. Uh And Agnew's 575 00:29:34,080 --> 00:29:36,040 Speaker 1: a guy that they want for special teams, so I 576 00:29:36,400 --> 00:29:38,200 Speaker 1: think he's going to make it as well. I think 577 00:29:38,200 --> 00:29:42,400 Speaker 1: you go six. So Jalen Camp practice, I mean he's 578 00:29:42,440 --> 00:29:45,080 Speaker 1: total developmental right, coming from Georgia Tech where they play 579 00:29:45,160 --> 00:29:48,840 Speaker 1: that you know that they run option game, So yeah, 580 00:29:48,840 --> 00:29:51,400 Speaker 1: I would think he's a perfect candidate. Well you sort 581 00:29:51,400 --> 00:29:57,480 Speaker 1: of play. I think sometimes we talk about roster positions, 582 00:29:57,560 --> 00:30:02,200 Speaker 1: we get very caught in specifics and numbers. I think 583 00:30:02,440 --> 00:30:06,800 Speaker 1: those seven guys we talked about will be around. Agnew 584 00:30:06,880 --> 00:30:10,200 Speaker 1: will will be on the team. Do they consider him 585 00:30:10,200 --> 00:30:12,520 Speaker 1: a wide receiver pure wide receiver or do they keep 586 00:30:12,560 --> 00:30:15,160 Speaker 1: him as a returner and sort of justify that with 587 00:30:15,280 --> 00:30:18,440 Speaker 1: having seven around that around that spot? Do you move 588 00:30:18,520 --> 00:30:20,880 Speaker 1: camp up or down that sort of thing. So I 589 00:30:20,880 --> 00:30:23,400 Speaker 1: think all seven of those guys will be around, whether 590 00:30:23,440 --> 00:30:25,800 Speaker 1: they're on the final roster, and you know how they 591 00:30:25,800 --> 00:30:34,160 Speaker 1: work the roster to be than you're up next. Alright, 592 00:30:34,200 --> 00:30:37,920 Speaker 1: similar question, different position. How many tight ends are you 593 00:30:38,000 --> 00:30:41,920 Speaker 1: keeping on the roster? Who makes it? Based off what 594 00:30:42,000 --> 00:30:53,560 Speaker 1: we know right now? Brian um uh three three right 595 00:30:53,640 --> 00:30:57,080 Speaker 1: and and and people want to know. I mean, so 596 00:30:57,240 --> 00:30:58,719 Speaker 1: he's Teabo going to make it or not? And I 597 00:30:58,760 --> 00:31:01,520 Speaker 1: think he does as a as an h back kind 598 00:31:01,520 --> 00:31:03,840 Speaker 1: of guy. The one role I think you can really 599 00:31:03,840 --> 00:31:06,480 Speaker 1: carve for him is short yardage. When he was with 600 00:31:06,520 --> 00:31:09,320 Speaker 1: the Broncos and when he was in Florida, he was 601 00:31:09,360 --> 00:31:11,080 Speaker 1: a guy who could find the line right, he could 602 00:31:11,120 --> 00:31:13,880 Speaker 1: find the end line, uh, put two and fifty pounds 603 00:31:13,880 --> 00:31:16,600 Speaker 1: into it and go. I mean I think, I mean, 604 00:31:16,600 --> 00:31:18,480 Speaker 1: I think he could be a guy on third down 605 00:31:18,520 --> 00:31:20,719 Speaker 1: to get your first down, and so yeah, I think he. 606 00:31:20,760 --> 00:31:22,800 Speaker 1: I think he makes it his nts back all right, 607 00:31:24,320 --> 00:31:32,440 Speaker 1: Man hurts Ferrell, uh O'Shaughnessy and Ellison and Tim doesn't 608 00:31:32,440 --> 00:31:39,920 Speaker 1: make it. Well we're talking about Yeah, so I be 609 00:31:39,960 --> 00:31:41,960 Speaker 1: a coin toss. I think I think it's gotta see 610 00:31:41,960 --> 00:31:46,560 Speaker 1: if it will work. Uh so h back, yeah, yeah, 611 00:31:46,640 --> 00:31:50,000 Speaker 1: four or five. Yeah, I'm at Ferrell. Man hurts no 612 00:31:50,040 --> 00:31:53,920 Speaker 1: particular order here. O'Shaughnessy because he is the most experienced 613 00:31:53,920 --> 00:31:57,240 Speaker 1: past catcher of the group, believe it or not. And 614 00:31:57,280 --> 00:31:59,720 Speaker 1: then whoever stands out from the rest of the guys, 615 00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:01,760 Speaker 1: and it may not be on the roster right now, 616 00:32:01,840 --> 00:32:04,360 Speaker 1: and the practice squad is is so different than it 617 00:32:04,440 --> 00:32:06,360 Speaker 1: used to be. You can keep guys who have been 618 00:32:06,400 --> 00:32:08,720 Speaker 1: in the league for a while. Uh so you can 619 00:32:08,760 --> 00:32:11,440 Speaker 1: play with that spot, and Ellefson would seem like a 620 00:32:11,480 --> 00:32:15,600 Speaker 1: guy back and forth off the roster sort of thing 621 00:32:16,160 --> 00:32:18,800 Speaker 1: could work, and then maybe they can make a move 622 00:32:18,840 --> 00:32:20,920 Speaker 1: in camp too to go find a guy. Anybody mentioned 623 00:32:20,920 --> 00:32:24,120 Speaker 1: Tyler Davis drop pick last year, but based a bunch 624 00:32:24,160 --> 00:32:26,120 Speaker 1: of injuries last year, So yeah, that's a guy. I 625 00:32:26,160 --> 00:32:28,320 Speaker 1: think Kim and Ellefson are kind of neck and neck there, 626 00:32:28,320 --> 00:32:30,640 Speaker 1: even though Elpson got some playing time last year. We 627 00:32:30,680 --> 00:32:33,120 Speaker 1: haven't done O t A number one yet. That's okay, 628 00:32:33,120 --> 00:32:37,560 Speaker 1: that's the nature. We're just talking through it. Brian, bring up, 629 00:32:37,800 --> 00:32:39,520 Speaker 1: so you know we're talking about O t a s 630 00:32:39,640 --> 00:32:42,680 Speaker 1: and I'm excited about it for Wednesday, But how long 631 00:32:42,720 --> 00:32:44,720 Speaker 1: will it take till we're board with it? Because as 632 00:32:44,800 --> 00:32:47,000 Speaker 1: you mentioned, John, I mean, if the coach doesn't talk 633 00:32:47,000 --> 00:32:48,920 Speaker 1: about it, it's not something we're going to report a 634 00:32:48,920 --> 00:32:52,240 Speaker 1: lot on. And you can't really see what the line 635 00:32:52,280 --> 00:32:53,840 Speaker 1: is gonna look. I mean you can see where people 636 00:32:53,880 --> 00:32:56,080 Speaker 1: line up, but you can't really see what they're going 637 00:32:56,120 --> 00:32:58,840 Speaker 1: to be able to do. O T s. Every year 638 00:32:58,840 --> 00:33:00,760 Speaker 1: it's a football's back and then you go out there, 639 00:33:00,760 --> 00:33:02,720 Speaker 1: it's like, yeah, I want to train a camp start. 640 00:33:03,240 --> 00:33:05,080 Speaker 1: How long will it take you before you were over 641 00:33:05,160 --> 00:33:08,440 Speaker 1: O T s? What time isn't Now? I knew you 642 00:33:08,480 --> 00:33:10,440 Speaker 1: were gonna come first and strong with that one, John, 643 00:33:10,680 --> 00:33:15,120 Speaker 1: Now and I joke about it, But first year O 644 00:33:15,360 --> 00:33:20,160 Speaker 1: T a s are not are not tedious. A third 645 00:33:20,240 --> 00:33:21,680 Speaker 1: and fourth year of a coach they can be very 646 00:33:21,720 --> 00:33:24,320 Speaker 1: tedious because you already start. Nobody he's gonna say these 647 00:33:24,360 --> 00:33:29,520 Speaker 1: won't be because I think Urban is gonna talk most weeks. Uh, 648 00:33:30,000 --> 00:33:33,640 Speaker 1: hearing what he says about the team remains fascinating. And 649 00:33:33,680 --> 00:33:36,880 Speaker 1: then for us watching and figuring out now the information 650 00:33:36,960 --> 00:33:39,600 Speaker 1: we give out because of some of the things we 651 00:33:39,640 --> 00:33:43,240 Speaker 1: can or can't say, maybe frustrating, but I think there 652 00:33:43,280 --> 00:33:46,480 Speaker 1: will be things to learn about this much so I'm 653 00:33:46,480 --> 00:33:50,480 Speaker 1: not sure I'll be bored. Oh my gosh. If you're 654 00:33:50,480 --> 00:33:52,440 Speaker 1: not bored everyone else is fired up to be there, 655 00:33:52,480 --> 00:33:57,640 Speaker 1: then absolutely for me, absence makes the heart grow fonder. 656 00:33:57,880 --> 00:33:59,640 Speaker 1: We're only out there once a week. That's very nice, 657 00:33:59,800 --> 00:34:03,920 Speaker 1: you say absence the hell that's another part of the 658 00:34:04,000 --> 00:34:08,640 Speaker 1: equation too. There once a week, I mean not out 659 00:34:08,640 --> 00:34:13,080 Speaker 1: there ten times, so you get limited time. You kind 660 00:34:13,080 --> 00:34:14,640 Speaker 1: of want to see a little bit more, and you're 661 00:34:14,680 --> 00:34:19,960 Speaker 1: not daily over and over against saying the same drill Monday, Wednesday, Thursday. Right. 662 00:34:20,000 --> 00:34:23,040 Speaker 1: So it's just once a week, so not as long 663 00:34:23,480 --> 00:34:26,920 Speaker 1: as before until we all get bored with it. But um, 664 00:34:27,640 --> 00:34:30,439 Speaker 1: probably week three will get bored with it. It really 665 00:34:30,440 --> 00:34:34,240 Speaker 1: missed him, buzzer. It's annoying, isn't it. It's a great touch. 666 00:34:36,040 --> 00:34:38,040 Speaker 1: I'm a herb. You guys can call me a nerd, herd, 667 00:34:38,080 --> 00:34:39,440 Speaker 1: whatever you want to call me. I love it out there. 668 00:34:39,520 --> 00:34:41,759 Speaker 1: I think it's awesome, every minute of it. I'm there 669 00:34:41,800 --> 00:34:43,799 Speaker 1: my advisor in my big water bottle of my notes, 670 00:34:43,840 --> 00:34:46,759 Speaker 1: and it's just the greatest thing ever. The end, and 671 00:34:46,800 --> 00:34:49,840 Speaker 1: to clarify it, I do, I do think it's cool. 672 00:34:50,440 --> 00:34:55,200 Speaker 1: There's no question. The time that he gets tedious is 673 00:34:55,239 --> 00:34:58,400 Speaker 1: when you're on a third year head coach and there's 674 00:34:58,400 --> 00:35:01,319 Speaker 1: not a whole lot of new that they're saying. To 675 00:35:01,440 --> 00:35:05,040 Speaker 1: figure out what they're doing, these four weeks will be fascinating, 676 00:35:05,640 --> 00:35:08,840 Speaker 1: and yes, absence does make the hard girl funder. You 677 00:35:08,840 --> 00:35:11,560 Speaker 1: were not wrong about that. Check out the Official Jaguars 678 00:35:11,600 --> 00:35:15,120 Speaker 1: Podcast Network a free subscription on Apple, iTunes or Spotify. 679 00:35:15,200 --> 00:35:17,600 Speaker 1: But you probably know that by now because you're listening 680 00:35:18,080 --> 00:35:20,200 Speaker 1: to Jaguars Reporters. That will do it. For this week, 681 00:35:20,280 --> 00:35:23,920 Speaker 1: John Osier asked from Sullivan Bryan Sexton, I'm J P. Shadrick. 682 00:35:24,040 --> 00:35:26,080 Speaker 1: We'll catch you next time on Jaguars Reporters