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Speaker 4: Now, when we talk about you know, interviewing legends and
Speaker 4: interviewing icons and interview and people who changed the game,
Speaker 4: this man has been a part of, you know, an
Speaker 4: album that changed my life. This man has been classic
Speaker 4: after classic, you know what I mean, lyric who after
Speaker 4: I'm listening to his listography. You can't find a whack
Speaker 4: bar nowhere. Like when you talk about lyricism, you talk
Speaker 4: about a man who stood this test of time, did it,
Speaker 4: was a part of the most legendary group ever.
Speaker 2: And we're gonna talk about that.
Speaker 4: He is here, new album on the way or probably
Speaker 4: out by the time we dropped this. In case you
Speaker 4: don't know, we're talking about the one, the only so.
Speaker 2: That we've been trying to get you for eight years.
Speaker 4: Man, you are one of the most requested guests because
Speaker 4: every time we get a guest and that's say, well
Speaker 4: you ain't getting easy yet.
Speaker 3: Yeah, So tell us what's been going on in your life?
Speaker 3: Hey man? Just trying to figure it out, you know
Speaker 3: what I mean. Took a step back for a few years,
Speaker 3: you know, and watch the game transition to this technology
Speaker 3: then you know, the social media and putting a few
Speaker 3: songs out, waiting to get into the white mind frame.
Speaker 2: To put albums out.
Speaker 3: So twenty twenty one, I dropped Door dot two. That
Speaker 3: was a great thing for me, and now I'm on
Speaker 3: the next album. Yeah, and this is independent, all independent fact.
Speaker 4: Yeah, what's the difference from you? Because you know, first
Speaker 4: time we ever heard you we heard you on Life's
Speaker 4: a Bitch on not Ill matters a major label and
Speaker 4: I believe if I'm not if I'm incorrect, I believe
Speaker 4: you signed to EMI after that. Facts, So tell us,
Speaker 4: tell us what was that transition like, well, me.
Speaker 3: Me, I wasn't trying to get on I just met nads.
Speaker 2: To a phone call, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3: It's crazy, I don't know for somebody I don't know, Jambo,
Speaker 3: you know, yeah, yea my man his man and my
Speaker 3: man Brooklyn betting your man the Queens type of thing.
Speaker 5: Right.
Speaker 2: So we was on the phone.
Speaker 3: I think I was on the phone with a lot
Speaker 3: of rappers and me and and now it's kind of
Speaker 3: more or less click because we was talking that ship,
Speaker 3: you know what I mean, And we stayed on the phone.
Speaker 3: I necessarily wasn't looking for a deal. I was like,
Speaker 3: if it happened to happen, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3: And it took about a year before I saw Nas
Speaker 3: and went to the studio and he was halfway through
Speaker 3: Illmatic and I was just dead supporting, you know what
Speaker 3: I mean, coming through showing love. And probably the last
Speaker 3: song was Life's a Bitch and and l E. S
Speaker 3: Was in there put it on and I'm in there vibbing.
Speaker 3: I'm like, I'm rapping, like yo, let me hear that.
Speaker 3: And I did it and I'm like the fuck out here, man,
Speaker 3: you popping like you love? Right, already because I think
Speaker 3: halftime was out. You know, for me, I'm not that
Speaker 3: confident at the end of the day. So when I
Speaker 3: did it, you know, the crew was in there, they
Speaker 3: went crazy. I figured just you know, they're showing love.
Speaker 3: Was I'm there whatever. A week a week later, he
Speaker 3: came back and said, yo, I turned the album. Men.
Speaker 3: I was like, world, uh, he's like, and I kept
Speaker 3: life to bitch on it. I was like, oh, ship okay,
Speaker 3: but I still felt the ways. I'm like, you know,
Speaker 3: I ain't even like my voice at the time or whatever,
Speaker 3: right when you hear yourself for the first time. But
Speaker 3: when it came out, motherfuckers went crazy.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it went crazy.
Speaker 3: And then wait, wait for it. From there, every label
Speaker 3: came at me. Yeah, every label. But I was trying
Speaker 3: to figure it out. Ian mindn't have a lot of
Speaker 3: artists that they had Gang Star at the time, you know,
Speaker 3: and gang Star, you know, they put their work in,
Speaker 3: but I know it wasn't like klutted. So I wanted
Speaker 3: to come over there and be like the nucleus of
Speaker 3: what was going on. So I signed with them and
Speaker 3: then you have it. Okay, So but let's all right,
Speaker 3: So you saying that this started from a false carse
Speaker 3: like like just playing around, like yo, a man from Brooklyn.
Speaker 3: Nice and you had you had it laiden versus prior
Speaker 3: to that, I was I was never was in an
Speaker 3: official studio, like I'm bullshited.
Speaker 5: Here and there, you know what I mean, yourself an
Speaker 5: like you were just you were just bullshiting.
Speaker 2: We all love rap, you know.
Speaker 3: I mean, I'm sure everybody here think they could rap,
Speaker 3: you know what I mean? So I could rap, I wasn't.
Speaker 5: I mean, you was different, man, You're a little different
Speaker 5: than just now in hindsight.
Speaker 3: But then I was like, nah, you gotta you gotta
Speaker 3: understand halftimes out he's already the streets talking. I'm just
Speaker 3: a motherfucker from Brooklyn, you know what I mean. Try
Speaker 3: to figure it out. So it was good when when
Speaker 3: when I did get the love, so I know I
Speaker 3: had what it took, you know what I mean at
Speaker 3: the end of the day.
Speaker 4: Okay, so you hadn't really officially been in the studios.
Speaker 4: He said, he invites you to the studio. I had
Speaker 4: met each other at shut it out like yeah, you
Speaker 4: know na. I was like, yo, man, you know this
Speaker 4: is Hypothetha. My brother got shot. I'm like, damn, my
Speaker 4: man just got shot. Your mother man got locked up,
Speaker 4: your mother man got killed. We had the same similar stories,
Speaker 4: you know what I mean. So I wasn't beat to
Speaker 4: go to the studio.
Speaker 6: I don't.
Speaker 2: I just ain't give a fuck, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3: So I guess like it had to be about a
Speaker 3: year about He's like, yo, man, we had at chun
Speaker 3: King when I was down there on Canal Street. Yeah yeah,
Speaker 3: so I was like, fucking, I ain't doing nothing. I'm
Speaker 3: gonna come through. And you know I went through. You know,
Speaker 3: have a thousand niggas in there. But it was all
Speaker 3: good and it was a good vibe because when I
Speaker 3: saw him, I was like, this is your first time,
Speaker 3: my first time, my height, my statup, waves fly, nigga,
Speaker 3: bunch of wolves around us is like you know what
Speaker 3: I mean. It was like, okay, that's like my brother,
Speaker 3: you know what I mean. And it was a good rob.
Speaker 4: You have to drinks up me and my this is
Speaker 4: my man dreamed he battle on who who who can
Speaker 4: quote the best of So I'm he and tell us.
Speaker 2: You gotta hold o Bron't tell me there that's just
Speaker 2: what best. Yeah, I can't hold on b.
Speaker 6: Fishing lodges were real.
Speaker 7: Listens, We're like relax Bality muscles the badage, the first
Speaker 7: the status of real su have my mon Sality gets
Speaker 7: money over to Ken you.
Speaker 2: Other Listen, there's a little more.
Speaker 6: The people have ever.
Speaker 3: Made it this year.
Speaker 2: We won't forget it, said the God. This it's all
Speaker 2: of us.
Speaker 7: Jesu satisfic said that we need turning the car addition
Speaker 7: good good opening the Westerns the vidment inside of the
Speaker 7: guys feb We don't think about your own had to go.
Speaker 2: We ain't long we leave people if we leave it
Speaker 2: once got the door you Kennedy.
Speaker 7: Reciting turned the papers, seeing Monday for me somewhere sacking
Speaker 7: Kenny players Fee and real Masa.
Speaker 2: Getting I'm gonna tell you, I know I when that round.
Speaker 5: I know.
Speaker 2: The fact of course I didn't. I always knew how
Speaker 2: ill that verse was.
Speaker 4: But I'm literally in dfy when this album comes out,
Speaker 4: and this album made me one of the right rhymes.
Speaker 4: But I'm sitting there and I did not know who
Speaker 4: easy he was by, and.
Speaker 2: I'm like, who is this guy? And you're not from
Speaker 2: the Bridge neither.
Speaker 3: I'm right, yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm thinking like I'm thinking,
Speaker 3: who the hell does it? And then it was in
Speaker 3: Brooklyn kids from me, Jamel Simon and Jamal. I forgot
Speaker 3: Jamal's last name, and they were both from East New
Speaker 3: York and boy were they so happy.
Speaker 2: They were like New York man, this is Do you
Speaker 2: know that's probably one of the most prolific features in
Speaker 2: hip hop?
Speaker 3: That's real? Real?
Speaker 2: Did you know that?
Speaker 6: Oh?
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's real, that's real.
Speaker 4: Yeah, man, I ain't gonna lie to you, bro, like
Speaker 4: you like that was that was a mark? So let's
Speaker 4: talk about because after that, everyone that's all the rumors
Speaker 4: was you gotta get a Z is.
Speaker 2: The next guy? Now?
Speaker 3: Is that pressure on you or you expected that because
Speaker 3: I know you said you wasn't really rapping, But do
Speaker 3: you expect all these people to come at you after this?
Speaker 2: Everybody coming at you quick.
Speaker 3: Pressure to an extent because you want to You want
Speaker 3: to make all the right moves right. You hear the
Speaker 3: stories of you know, even now telling me a situations
Speaker 3: where he was signed. You know, you know what I
Speaker 3: mean already, and then you hit through being in you
Speaker 3: know life. You hear artists and they come and go.
Speaker 3: You want to kind of make the right decisions. But
Speaker 3: the pressure probably came where I have to do album
Speaker 3: now I got I only got a few verses. I
Speaker 3: gotta write twelve songs, three versus per song.
Speaker 2: Little pressure right there for me, right and being branded
Speaker 2: on the game. So I just had to do it.
Speaker 3: Picked the right producers, right because here I am trying
Speaker 3: to follow up with whatever already came out the gate,
Speaker 3: which was Illmatic. I got to follow up with that.
Speaker 3: Then you heard all the other artists for my era
Speaker 3: coming out, So you know what I mean, a little pressure,
Speaker 3: little pressure, but I'm away from where I was right
Speaker 3: from somewhere else. Now, I'm good, cool, I take that
Speaker 3: pressure now?
Speaker 2: Was it? Was it?
Speaker 4: Because because remember I felt like everything was going through
Speaker 4: like Sony at that time, like Stout was pushing like
Speaker 4: everyone kind of like I believe the firm and then
Speaker 4: but then the firm winded up in the scope.
Speaker 2: So was it like was it different?
Speaker 3: Well, you're saying, you're saying, you're saying my album because
Speaker 3: that that firm came two years after, two years after,
Speaker 3: so we went from my album and went from from
Speaker 3: you know, being on Illmatic to my album to Nods.
Speaker 3: It was written to the firm right, So that was
Speaker 3: the whole stout came in, came in. It was game
Speaker 3: Man after the fag, yeah after So so let's.
Speaker 2: Talk about the firm. How did you? How did what
Speaker 2: was this idea.
Speaker 3: That that was on my album More Money, More Motile
Speaker 3: the Firm?
Speaker 2: Rid you want me?
Speaker 3: He was talking about it. You know, we're seeing everybody.
Speaker 3: You know, We're seeing you know what the woo doing.
Speaker 3: We're hearing what you know, thesion.
Speaker 2: You know, we're hearing things.
Speaker 3: So we want to put our ship together, you know
Speaker 3: what I mean. I knew Fox. One of one of
Speaker 3: the homies introduced me to Fox, but I've.
Speaker 2: Been to her brothers.
Speaker 3: I lived around the corner like a year before I
Speaker 3: moved to the East. I lived around the corner from Fox.
Speaker 3: I knew Gavin, you know what I mean. So met
Speaker 3: Fox whatever through the Hombies introduced Hard and Nas you
Speaker 3: know what I mean, And I was like, all right,
Speaker 3: let's do this. You know, I mean, she was heating
Speaker 3: up on her own, so everything was like divine intervention.
Speaker 4: To be honest, this is at the time where Big
Speaker 4: had Little Kim a radio or not yet.
Speaker 3: All this is yo, this ship is this ship is
Speaker 3: all TRANSI like this is like, ain't no time to think,
Speaker 3: you know what I mean?
Speaker 2: Now my most be fox.
Speaker 3: You working to cool your binger students' doing. She's not
Speaker 3: defy ho she she's cool. It's starts, it's just moving
Speaker 3: like that. So yeah, she she she she's n cann all.
Speaker 2: Is it true? You Jay and Biggie went to school together?
Speaker 3: No, me and me and me and Jay went to
Speaker 3: school together first with I and my They closed that
Speaker 3: down because that was there was like, uh the lean
Speaker 3: on music, it was off the hook put it like that.
Speaker 2: Then I think he went to Westernhouse.
Speaker 3: I'm at Big.
Speaker 2: But you and Jay was in school together. Yeah, facts,
Speaker 2: so jay Z Brooklyn schools Manz was in What kind
Speaker 2: of school was this high school? This is it was?
Speaker 3: It was hot.
Speaker 2: He was there.
Speaker 3: He was there definitely before me because one of the
Speaker 3: homies introduced me to him. He's like, oo, this cad
Speaker 3: get busy world up, you know what I mean? Like okay,
Speaker 3: and then you know ce j here and that when
Speaker 3: he come to school, we've been in lunch from fucking around,
Speaker 3: you know what I mean? Did you have a battle
Speaker 3: of the battle we rapped?
Speaker 2: No battle. Jay probably was the same as he is
Speaker 2: now he was then you know what I mean, it's
Speaker 2: not like you ain't get the better one or that
Speaker 2: you under saying. He was fucking with jazz, that was
Speaker 2: that was nice, speed rapping, was traveling.
Speaker 3: They was to well, I guess probably right at that
Speaker 3: time because I'm ninth grade, you know, but he was
Speaker 3: more in the mix of me.
Speaker 2: Put it like that, so he don't have the better up.
Speaker 2: How about Buster Mims. You went to the school Buster
Speaker 2: that's that's that's big and bust and all of them.
Speaker 2: What's that one?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know what that w big, Buster and Biggie.
Speaker 3: I'm nice and one of them a western house, one
Speaker 3: of one of it's a smart schools too, a smart
Speaker 3: school A smart I was going to six hundred school.
Speaker 3: I wasn't allowed. So so what you like better writing
Speaker 3: the music or performing the music? I like writing first.
Speaker 3: Performing I love now you know mean, but right? And
Speaker 3: then you know it's therapeutic. Maybe put your put your
Speaker 3: thoughts on on paper. It's a beautiful thing.
Speaker 4: So let's take it back to the first album. You
Speaker 4: got to pick this first single, but you want l
Speaker 4: e s is in the studio? How does this record
Speaker 4: come about?
Speaker 3: And then in the world, I want to put that
Speaker 3: record out, not that record, not everybody's pushing. Yeah, I
Speaker 3: don't want to put that record outwits my over.
Speaker 2: That speak about drink up. I'm ready to give my drinks.
Speaker 2: You're good.
Speaker 8: You want some shap Parkad, give us some shap pargainne man,
Speaker 8: your own body, your own bottle.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. Because we celebrating you today.
Speaker 2: You know what I mean?
Speaker 3: What was the question I was saying you before that
Speaker 3: this single, get back to that, but show it's about
Speaker 3: giving people they flowers, man, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3: So we want to give you your flowers off top brother,
Speaker 3: fake the face, man and man, tell you how great.
Speaker 2: You are saying Snoop said, it's like a gravy. You
Speaker 2: know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: So yes, yes, yeah, yes, Holy moly, there'll be some
Speaker 3: ship and.
Speaker 2: I wanted to bring you some flowers too, but somebody
Speaker 2: did that. It's about you, my brother.
Speaker 9: Good.
Speaker 4: So I'm all right, because damn, I would have never
Speaker 4: thought that to me as outside of looking at that's
Speaker 4: probably the inside of that is looking out. But when
Speaker 4: I'm looking at what y'all doing from Ellmatic to your album.
Speaker 3: This looks like it's perfect to me, So sugar Hill perfect,
Speaker 3: You know, it didn't because we street motherfuckers and we
Speaker 3: thinking about rapping.
Speaker 2: I'm not thinking about the business of it. Yo. Man,
Speaker 2: you got record.
Speaker 3: You put the B side for the street niggas and
Speaker 3: then put the single because it was.
Speaker 2: The B side money it was rather unique, Okay, so
Speaker 2: put that out.
Speaker 3: So it was so me, I'm happy with that. I'm
Speaker 3: happy with just I want to I want to develop
Speaker 3: my staff. I want to speak to my people's management, like, oh,
Speaker 3: come on, bro, we got it. We got mixed myths. Man,
Speaker 3: you know what I mean. You see what's going on
Speaker 3: out there, you know, big at the juicy and things
Speaker 3: of that nature.
Speaker 2: And it's a differentiation of.
Speaker 3: You know, you speak to the cats, you speak to
Speaker 3: the women and women by vackings. So it's a whole
Speaker 3: new knowledge coming in there, Like Okay, it ain't just
Speaker 3: battling and rapping and trying to show them the livest
Speaker 3: women want to get down. Okay, yeah, let's play, you
Speaker 3: know what I mean.
Speaker 2: So, sugar Hell, you didn't like this.
Speaker 3: I didn't like it? Why? I just told you it
Speaker 3: was a dance record commercial. But but what was told
Speaker 3: to me which made it fly, like spit some real
Speaker 3: ship on its it's all beers, the ladies could dance.
Speaker 2: You spit the real ship. The nigga's gonna like it.
Speaker 2: You're good. So that concept got me, like, you know it,
Speaker 2: mind fucked me, but it worked.
Speaker 3: Recordbody was coming through busting their guns on it for
Speaker 3: T shirt.
Speaker 2: You know what I mean.
Speaker 3: I don't want to get all suited and boo at
Speaker 3: that time. I didn't, but it was being ahead of
Speaker 3: the game right in reality because it was like, all right,
Speaker 3: I got.
Speaker 2: I got a big budget, got a lot of big.
Speaker 3: Budget, big budget, a big budget. Your fake look on
Speaker 3: you said that big budget we got. We gotta recoup
Speaker 3: right because now it's the business. So I mean, they
Speaker 3: got me good in that zone to really uh write
Speaker 3: it how I wrote it and delivered it and and
Speaker 3: it worked right.
Speaker 2: Now, you learning the business?
Speaker 4: Was that a shock to you because you know, most
Speaker 4: of the time, most of us will probably do this
Speaker 4: because I'm good for fun. But then you got to
Speaker 4: realize you got to feed the feed your family. And
Speaker 4: when was the time that you realized that this was
Speaker 4: a business.
Speaker 3: When I got that check first check, I said, oh,
Speaker 3: Ship is real. First check made it real?
Speaker 2: The check and what happened? Would you would you? Would you?
Speaker 2: It was the first second from though from from im I.
Speaker 3: Remember, prior to me signing, I went on the tour
Speaker 3: with nas right for the Automatic tour and Ship.
Speaker 2: I was happy just going for the education right learning.
Speaker 3: I ain't in the hood, fucking I'm fucking I mean,
Speaker 3: I'm in Queen's now, I'm fucking with that zone.
Speaker 10: Right.
Speaker 3: So when we finished the tour, you know, I was
Speaker 3: with all everybody coming to the table. I decided to
Speaker 3: go to Imari. They gave him my check. But then
Speaker 3: you know, now it's called like, yo, man, yo, they's
Speaker 3: coming on the tour. I'm like, all right, cool, I
Speaker 3: got a little money for I was like, all right, cool,
Speaker 3: und or whatever. I hear an't know I signed. I
Speaker 3: was gonna tell him, but he beat me to the points.
Speaker 3: I was like, I got a little four five dollars
Speaker 3: for four five hundred.
Speaker 2: I was like, oh, okay, cool, that's cool man better no,
Speaker 2: I don't care. So he started laughing, like yo, you
Speaker 2: crazy me. I got about ten fifteen you know what
Speaker 2: I'm saying.
Speaker 3: But cool, And like I said, the whole thing was
Speaker 3: like a blessing and a lesson at the same time.
Speaker 3: You know what I mean, Right, Okay, I've been wanting
Speaker 3: to ask you this question forever, Right, okay, you said
Speaker 3: on the phone tap because I felt like there was
Speaker 3: racist towards Latinos.
Speaker 2: And then I realized you you're Dominicans, so it can't be.
Speaker 3: Racist because you're gonna start wrapping your Dominican.
Speaker 2: Side to We're gonna get the record.
Speaker 3: But I always thought this lie because you said I
Speaker 3: caught him sleeping.
Speaker 2: The Spanish Harlem Puerto Ricans court, sleeping from the Puerto
Speaker 2: Ricans Spanish Harlem. But then you said that deacon off.
Speaker 3: The deggon Spanish Harlem and the deacon not that close,
Speaker 3: who's doing all of that?
Speaker 2: Start doing that? You can get this beast home the fact.
Speaker 5: That's god.
Speaker 3: Mm hmm. That's a classic record. Phone Tapa in the studio,
Speaker 3: your phone was tapped. He was like, let's just make
Speaker 3: a noise.
Speaker 2: About it now.
Speaker 3: We always were always just be in that zone, like
Speaker 3: I guess threw our lyrics, well my lyrics, I can say,
Speaker 3: I just try to throw a jewel in there too,
Speaker 3: for I know, I know the hood listening, so like
Speaker 3: we always on our phones. So just just be mindful,
Speaker 3: right because we all take ship for granted. And every
Speaker 3: time I write it was just life a bitch. I
Speaker 3: would trying to throw I speak that street ship, but
Speaker 3: I thowt jeweling. So phone tap, it was just that zone.
Speaker 3: When d throw that beat on it, it just came
Speaker 3: to life. And you know, now it came up with
Speaker 3: the hook. The concept was more or less mine's right.
Speaker 2: Like say that to a phone sound talking on the phone.
Speaker 2: You know what I mean.
Speaker 3: But we always throw ideas back and forth in the studio,
Speaker 3: you know what I mean. So it came out good
Speaker 3: everything come on, good me him touched. It had come
Speaker 3: out good old time all the time.
Speaker 4: When you look at the Firm album, when you look
Speaker 4: at you know, this was a collective force of individuals
Speaker 4: that came together.
Speaker 2: Do you did you understand what I was doing back then? No,
Speaker 2: I was trying and we were trying to.
Speaker 3: That was that was that was a power move right there,
Speaker 3: right because it was just an idea of trying to
Speaker 3: make it happen. So with Dray being involved, you know,
Speaker 3: track mess was hot as hell. Uh and and and
Speaker 3: we had now on the album to it was crazy
Speaker 3: yeah yeah Half yeah brother.
Speaker 2: But so the thought was, okay, cool menas Fox cool right.
Speaker 2: I wanted to Half.
Speaker 3: I'm bringing Half to the table right because he was
Speaker 3: just he was just lyrically mackling son.
Speaker 2: I was like, okay, well, I'm being Mega. Mega just
Speaker 2: came home.
Speaker 3: At the time. I'm trusting, you know, no judgment, which
Speaker 3: is cool, you know what I mean? So we that's
Speaker 3: the force to me? Is it actually really? Because I
Speaker 3: think I think Half came after the fact, so me
Speaker 3: nas Mega. And then somewhere along the line, you know,
Speaker 3: the lines got blurred. It becomes I think it's business. Right,
Speaker 3: It's not a it's not a talent thing. It becomes
Speaker 3: a business thing.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 3: This person signing, this management, this person is regularly these
Speaker 3: people are in control of certain things. And and that's
Speaker 3: why there's no firm too.
Speaker 4: I mean, you seem like you cooler than the whistle man,
Speaker 4: like well, like you seem like the other side of
Speaker 4: the pillow.
Speaker 2: But we all noticed this famous thing that happened, right.
Speaker 4: I was actually in the studio when I don't know
Speaker 4: what happened with with the Mega side, but I was
Speaker 4: dead when nature actually did the freestyle and no one
Speaker 4: asked him to do that. But you how did you feel,
Speaker 4: because like because on one hand, you use guys working.
Speaker 2: For cor Mega and it was like it was like
Speaker 2: they switched it and now you've got to work with Nature.
Speaker 2: Did you have a relationship with nature? How did that?
Speaker 3: I met Mega first, you know what I mean? Me
Speaker 3: and Me and Mega bond official, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3: I met Nature after the fact, but I knew it
Speaker 3: was it was it was a business move, right, but
Speaker 3: it was out of my control to an extent. I
Speaker 3: really couldn't right, right, it was like I had the
Speaker 3: power to really I could. I gave my say so
Speaker 3: to an extent, like what's going on? You know now
Speaker 3: I know that you know he signed over here, he
Speaker 3: signed over here, he don't want to sign gonna do that.
Speaker 3: So it was that type of ship, right that I
Speaker 3: think always take place when it when with a lot
Speaker 3: of people involved. You know, I'm neutral with everything, right,
Speaker 3: that's just me, right, But that was what I'm gonna do.
Speaker 2: Like that's and that's some queen ship. That's that's some
Speaker 2: freend ship.
Speaker 3: I get it right, they're fuck around, fight, get back together.
Speaker 2: That's some real So.
Speaker 3: The guys finally formed this group. Right, you go to
Speaker 3: l A right, doctor Dre is involved, because was it
Speaker 3: signed that doctor Dre or or it was a collective?
Speaker 3: I think it was yeah, yeah, after mad fact.
Speaker 2: So you're getting the studio with doctor Dre.
Speaker 3: Right, what is that like, that's a beautiful thing, that's right, right,
Speaker 3: But it's on the heels of him believing death roll.
Speaker 3: So it's still like there's a lot of ship going
Speaker 3: on the time, and it was there. It's a lot
Speaker 3: of energy, right, energy was everything? Right now the energy
Speaker 3: is it's subtle, but back then the energy was very serious.
Speaker 3: But it was good to fuck with Dre from his
Speaker 3: discography and the ship he put in it and then
Speaker 3: him and now was making that acquaintance. Let's get busy, right,
Speaker 3: that's my mom said, whatever, let's get busy, Like i
Speaker 3: can't think too much about lots going on. I'm trying
Speaker 3: to hit the target all the time.
Speaker 2: That's a if you to do a firm part too, right, now,
Speaker 2: who would you pick? What the fuck that means? We
Speaker 2: mean the four members, all five or six members? Are
Speaker 2: you trying to say pick anybody?
Speaker 3: Let let's spose let's spose everyone came and said, your a.
Speaker 2: We want to do the firm. You're the closest to
Speaker 2: the to the streets. You you have the mind.
Speaker 3: We want you to lead this four hat Who's the
Speaker 3: people you would pick if it's your choice? Same before?
Speaker 2: Which one? Because two different firms?
Speaker 10: Now?
Speaker 3: Everybody, Yo, listen, man, listen, man, let me play.
Speaker 2: No, I don't got to right pick a size.
Speaker 5: Right.
Speaker 3: I'm the type that I let it pick itself, that
Speaker 3: type of person. I'm bringing it back to the table.
Speaker 2: Listening. We got some paper on the table.
Speaker 3: What's going on, what we're doing, what we're eagle getting
Speaker 3: away or or we can't do nothing? That's them that
Speaker 3: X they cell FU. But I don't bring aboy to
Speaker 3: the table.
Speaker 2: I said they can't. He said that you can't do it.
Speaker 3: I said he could pick any group, sir' seem that
Speaker 3: you want to and yeah, sometimes let problems solve theyself, right,
Speaker 3: Because I don't really I know that I know.
Speaker 2: The surface of the I know. I don't know the in.
Speaker 3: Depth because it would be more ship.
Speaker 2: I don't know. I'm people one.
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 2: I know like everybody good. Now I'm there's you know
Speaker 2: what I'm saying but I don't know. I didn't know
Speaker 2: the in depth.
Speaker 3: I'm sure probably was deeper than yo, I'm signed over here.
Speaker 3: I won't sign these papers. But then they probably got
Speaker 3: message somewhere that I don't know because I wasn't in
Speaker 3: the I was in the bridge.
Speaker 2: I wasn't there. They were seeing each other on their
Speaker 2: own time, you know what I mean. So I don't know.
Speaker 3: Really, but as men, you know, they they straightened it out,
Speaker 3: like you said, like we're all grown now, you know
Speaker 3: what I mean. Like, I'm sure a lot of people
Speaker 3: got ill the stories. That story was light work.
Speaker 2: Yeah, everybody got the paper, got some shine.
Speaker 3: They couldn't figure it out. They went their way. Everybody
Speaker 3: did they ding.
Speaker 2: You know, SI get deep and other other cruise a
Speaker 2: lot of deep, you know what I'm saying. So cool
Speaker 2: with it.
Speaker 3: Now we've seen the picture of you right posted or
Speaker 3: Foxy Brown daughter, Oh my bad? Oh yes, yes, yes,
Speaker 3: I went to check up on fox. I try to
Speaker 3: I try to dialogue. Well right, I'm gonna keep it
Speaker 3: one hundred. I don't speak the nature right at all,
Speaker 3: no no contact.
Speaker 2: I see him here and there.
Speaker 3: I dialogue right, I speak the Mega periodically. I speak
Speaker 3: the Fox periodically. I speak the nods periodically, right, so
Speaker 3: you know, this is fifty years of hip hop.
Speaker 2: I'm a Fox, get us shine, you know what.
Speaker 5: I'm sorry.
Speaker 3: You know our applaud nods for bringing me out at
Speaker 3: the garden. That was a great thing, you know what
Speaker 3: I mean. But she being a part of the culture
Speaker 3: in the era, I want, you know, we check up
Speaker 3: on her. I want to check up on her. She
Speaker 3: wasn't there, but you know, lose baby, she was there.
Speaker 2: And this is like I saw.
Speaker 3: I went to visit Fox when she first had her
Speaker 3: in the hospital, but this is the second time, my son,
Speaker 3: she's now.
Speaker 2: I was like Ship and she looks just like you
Speaker 2: know what I mean. I was like, call Red Fox.
Speaker 2: That's crazy. That's what they do. They call her Red Fox.
Speaker 3: Wow, that's yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, that's crazy. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Because you didn't get to see Fox.
Speaker 3: I didn't get to see her. I spoke to her
Speaker 3: after the fact, right, I don't know, she's running around
Speaker 3: or whatever, telling her like, come on, man, come get
Speaker 3: this money, get your shine back.
Speaker 2: You know what I mean.
Speaker 3: I got some cigars for you, brother, Yeah, get you
Speaker 3: get your shining back.
Speaker 2: And I appreciate it. You know what I mean. Oh,
Speaker 2: I got blunts in here and anything. This is, this
Speaker 2: is this is okay just ca yeah yeah yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, just in case you show me, you show you
Speaker 3: know what I'm saying. You know me, it's my personal stash. Man.
Speaker 3: I want you to feel good because you know why,
Speaker 3: you're a legend.
Speaker 2: Man.
Speaker 4: You deserve your flowers, you deserve your respect, you deserve
Speaker 4: your love.
Speaker 2: You're a pillow.
Speaker 3: This hip hop ship and your fans is relentless.
Speaker 2: I don't know. Yeah, I had to come here, yeah, relentless.
Speaker 4: Like there's people telling me I told you, motherfucker. I
Speaker 4: was like, looking like, it's like I told you mother,
Speaker 4: and then they be blaming us for having other people
Speaker 4: when it's not you.
Speaker 2: I'm like, y'all keeping it all? Is that something? That
Speaker 2: that that?
Speaker 3: Because you know, we're all into the game. I really
Speaker 3: into the game when I was like eighteen nineteen.
Speaker 4: And I have some fans who actually grew up with me,
Speaker 4: who's actually old motherfuckers, right, and they're like they they
Speaker 4: went with me through all my little ship. It's differently,
Speaker 4: is there fans that went with you through this whole journey?
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Yah yeah, hell yeah yeah fans that that dugged it out, man,
Speaker 3: even when I like fell back for a minute trying
Speaker 3: to figure it out. You know, the game was just
Speaker 3: changing so fast and no sonically and you know, from
Speaker 3: CDs to digital, just so much shit going on.
Speaker 2: Like I'm trying to staying, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3: Without without playing my off getting caught up in no
Speaker 3: sucking shit right, because it can happen, right, you know
Speaker 3: what I mean, when you're trying to do You can
Speaker 3: try to do something, but you lose points trying to
Speaker 3: get points, right, So I got to sit and cut
Speaker 3: like this and until I could strike. So fans they
Speaker 3: bought because they're still showing love, right, Like, look, how
Speaker 3: many years later, I'm still I'm putting albums out and
Speaker 3: getting love like she is incredible, man, incredible.
Speaker 10: Now.
Speaker 4: One of the very first questions people saying is when
Speaker 4: the fuck is a Z and I was gonna do
Speaker 4: a double U.
Speaker 3: I want everybody know, you know that man got all
Speaker 3: the power in the world. Man, I want to ask
Speaker 3: that man. I'm right here. I'm so ja war at
Speaker 3: old times. He got all the power in the world.
Speaker 3: That's my brother, though, you know whatever it is, he listened,
Speaker 3: he opened the door for me, So it can never
Speaker 3: I could never go left right, and.
Speaker 2: And you know, you know, like like you right, we
Speaker 2: were in the games.
Speaker 3: Everybody got lanes to take, you know what I mean,
Speaker 3: So everybody take their lanes. And he got things he
Speaker 3: need to accomplish. He has visions that he needs to accomplish,
Speaker 3: and that's what he do.
Speaker 2: And me, I get my ship.
Speaker 3: You don't mean no point.
Speaker 2: So yeah, but you kind of got an album together.
Speaker 3: If you put on the features I got, you do that, yeah,
Speaker 3: I mean, I mean if you was put that together,
Speaker 3: make a compilation, what would you call that? I couldn't
Speaker 3: even I got that that. I gotta sit back on
Speaker 3: that one.
Speaker 2: That's some deadly You can't just want you to call that.
Speaker 2: That's some deadly ship. Right there? Come on, you ain't
Speaker 2: gonna get drunk. You can still be on point.
Speaker 5: But we need something new from that. It couldn't be
Speaker 5: a I mean, complation older. It gotta be something brand new.
Speaker 2: Yeah of course.
Speaker 4: But I'm just saying for people that don't know, like
Speaker 4: they like they got those many records together, she can
Speaker 4: be called an album.
Speaker 6: Huh.
Speaker 4: But if you was to be able to get in
Speaker 4: and record an album, who producers you would pick.
Speaker 3: Wow, that's Fly, that's Fly. That's a good one. That's
Speaker 3: a good one. I'll try to bring the heavy hitters
Speaker 3: and bring a primo doctor Dre.
Speaker 2: Man. I can hear you guys in Justice League production.
Speaker 2: That's this league, man.
Speaker 3: I still get some from Kanye. Yeah, busy with the music.
Speaker 3: Leave the door open for what else? Yeah, that'd be crazy. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 3: that'd be crazy.
Speaker 5: L E.
Speaker 3: S L L definitely you know L been damn l
Speaker 3: L being around from day one. Man L brought a
Speaker 3: lot of classics to the table. Man shout out to L. E.
Speaker 2: S Man rolled up. Yeah, God damn it. Let's let's
Speaker 2: what other producers you think?
Speaker 5: You said Primo, right, we said Pete Rock.
Speaker 3: Yeah, period, y'all bunk always the album?
Speaker 2: Yeah, tip tip, tip, your tip, tip definitely tip.
Speaker 8: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Who's your favorite goal to producer? For you? For yourself?
Speaker 11: Thank you?
Speaker 3: Try to try to fuck with those I like, I mean,
Speaker 3: everybody deal with I. I like that been on my albums.
Speaker 3: That's that I still funk with right now. This album,
Speaker 3: the Truth Be Told album, Buck did the whole album
Speaker 3: Buck Wow. Wow, Yeah, he's the whole album. But like
Speaker 3: you said, always got Pete. They always always got you know,
Speaker 3: Primo dr period they always did. You know what I mean?
Speaker 10: What is this?
Speaker 4: This this trend with every people doing the whole albums?
Speaker 4: Is that something that is more comfortable.
Speaker 3: Working with I've noticed that that it is right, But
Speaker 3: it's been going on for time, like track masters, this
Speaker 3: piece of album albums, whole album. Yeah, Primo did all
Speaker 3: Google album like it's been going on, Doctor Drake did all.
Speaker 2: Definitely like it been going on. But it's more comfortable.
Speaker 3: You ain't gonna go shot for beats and all that ship,
Speaker 3: you know what I mean? Like, and then you can
Speaker 3: just get a whole bunch and figured out.
Speaker 2: It's a cohesive sound easier to make a cohesive And
Speaker 2: then so so how do you how do y'all do this?
Speaker 2: Y'all go away or y'all just lock in together.
Speaker 3: We went away for the Firm album with me and Bucknah.
Speaker 3: I just I'm in the zone. Now, I'm in the zone.
Speaker 3: I'm good.
Speaker 2: So he just sending you the records records.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm good, I'm good. Money yeah all right?
Speaker 2: Cool? You ready for quick Time on line?
Speaker 6: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Yeah already?
Speaker 4: Yeah, come on, you gotta Harry then up, mother Jesus man, Jesus,
Speaker 4: I can bring it soon. Yeah, oh yeah, we bring
Speaker 4: them quick times line too. Yeah, all right, so let's
Speaker 4: talk about that. We talked about sugarhir already.
Speaker 3: Ah talk about more money, more murder, more money. That's
Speaker 3: a classic too. Yeah that record was that was that?
Speaker 3: That's Iley Brothers sample.
Speaker 2: I think really yeah, that was the Mafia sample. I
Speaker 2: don't know it was, honestly, but that's just like, yeah,
Speaker 2: John Gotti gave you he was was in his zone
Speaker 2: with that.
Speaker 3: We was fresh, right, there was and it was not
Speaker 3: still on the bridge. I don't know, we was fresh
Speaker 3: at that time. That's That's one of the classes off
Speaker 3: my album I Love.
Speaker 2: How did that record come about? The all bought the
Speaker 2: beat to the table and I think Nads had the
Speaker 2: hook of it.
Speaker 3: He said the hook and I reminded him about the hook,
Speaker 3: and then we just went crazy on that one. It
Speaker 3: was just it was that's a lot. I thought Spirits
Speaker 3: was in the room with us. It was nice, nice,
Speaker 3: nice song. Okay, I'm bouncing around a little bit, right, Okay,
Speaker 3: we look at this Jay z uh Dad President's video.
Speaker 4: Right, we see you see Big, you see Emery, we
Speaker 4: see bigs. We see Dame dash Uh, it's real money.
Speaker 4: It looks like it's real money. You guys are shaking.
Speaker 4: I remember you had the toothpick and right right right,
Speaker 4: right right right, you shaking a lot of people say,
Speaker 4: and I know you can answer this whichever way. A
Speaker 4: lot of people say, that's where like the turmoil started
Speaker 4: with Jay and now video Nads was supposed to attend
Speaker 4: that very scene.
Speaker 2: I would not know that right.
Speaker 3: All I know is I knew.
Speaker 2: Me and I came through it right. So I don't know.
Speaker 3: I don't know how the business was, but I was
Speaker 3: being on the hook at that I don't know day
Speaker 3: relationship at the time, which I don't think was a relationship.
Speaker 2: He just I guess he heard it like that. I don't.
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 2: I can speak for him, but he just got a call.
Speaker 2: I don't think Maybe it did. Maybe I don't know. Honestly,
Speaker 2: keep you one hundred.
Speaker 3: I don't know, should be fine out Let me know,
Speaker 3: Let me let me know, because I don't.
Speaker 2: We know a lot of shit.
Speaker 10: You know.
Speaker 2: I ain't about him.
Speaker 3: I don't believe invest my mind a lot of this ship.
Speaker 3: It's a business, but both against some paper. But I
Speaker 3: guess we was all young, a lot of a lot
Speaker 3: of ego, a lot of personal ship, a lot of
Speaker 3: you know what I mean. Niggas have a dick measuring content.
Speaker 3: I don't know, but it was about paper for me.
Speaker 2: For day one. When I got that check, I was like,
Speaker 2: you got to be in the streets.
Speaker 3: Let's go right, And it's like jumping out the frying
Speaker 3: pan into the fucking fire because it was. It get
Speaker 3: a little worse right because the same shit kind of exist,
Speaker 3: but it's a lot of more talking and it's like,
Speaker 3: what like our face, it's just crazy to me, Like
Speaker 3: I just can't understand it. But then I understand the
Speaker 3: competitiveness of hip hop, which always been And we got
Speaker 3: it from you know, Coolmo D, Busy B.
Speaker 2: We got it from you know, L and Ice T.
Speaker 3: We got it from you know what I'm saying the
Speaker 3: time going with all the beefs with you know, shaying
Speaker 3: and the krs. So it's the nature of it, you
Speaker 3: know what I'm saying. But then they were rapping for real.
Speaker 3: But then when we brought the street element to it,
Speaker 3: the ship just went cool cool man, it just went
Speaker 3: coogle and we sucked it up and we.
Speaker 2: Fucked this ship up.
Speaker 5: It up.
Speaker 2: For me, looking at that video, it's seemed.
Speaker 3: It's gonna sound crazy about the dead president.
Speaker 2: President.
Speaker 4: Shoot, I'm gonna say, I'm gonna say something that's gonna
Speaker 4: sound crazy, but it's not really that. I don't think
Speaker 4: Naves would even fit in that scene had if that was.
Speaker 3: The case, because we're all Brooklyn people there.
Speaker 2: I felt like, yeah, Brooklyn niggas, Yeah, by yourself.
Speaker 3: If it would have been live, doctor been on a
Speaker 3: queenz niggative. Okay, you get it, because that's how I
Speaker 3: felt going quitions. But I'm the only Brooklyn nigga there.
Speaker 3: You're fucking christ looked at it like that. But you know,
Speaker 3: I said, but it would have been fly. It would
Speaker 3: have been fly because it would have been fly, right
Speaker 3: because every time you hear about the top.
Speaker 2: Ten three names come up, it would have been that's monumental, right.
Speaker 5: Right right right?
Speaker 3: Hey, your name come up during the top five too, motherfucker.
Speaker 3: You ain't gonna let you be home like that.
Speaker 2: You do that, ain't gonna let you say that.
Speaker 4: I mean, I mean to be honest with you, I really,
Speaker 4: really I want you to understand your fan base, like
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying, like that's what we do,
Speaker 4: like when we said our name, like you know, in
Speaker 4: the week off and then I could I can understand,
Speaker 4: like like like Wayne has the nicest fans in the world.
Speaker 4: Like when I say something about Wayne, his fans like,
Speaker 4: can you let us drop it on Friday?
Speaker 2: Like respectful nods? That's real? So you dropped?
Speaker 6: Ready?
Speaker 2: Huh? Quick time is ready? Okay? Cool? You want to
Speaker 2: explain him the rules and we're gonna bring you up.
Speaker 2: We're taking shots, were taking shots, so yeah, you gotta
Speaker 2: set up.
Speaker 3: I feel like this is very racist. You bring the
Speaker 3: Puerto Rican in to drink the shots? Are your wor
Speaker 3: we can do up. Yes, he's cute, l A.
Speaker 2: We got that.
Speaker 3: DJ you smoke, you smoke, you don't smoke. We damn
Speaker 3: all right, we had that gumbo for y'all.
Speaker 2: I guess I got this.
Speaker 3: Wait a minute, a second, because we got your flop.
Speaker 2: You got your floper to.
Speaker 3: Yes, man, he's to sell a lot of cocaine uptown.
Speaker 2: Classic. He said he's mad at.
Speaker 9: All.
Speaker 2: Got me, Sonny got got Okay right now, it is
Speaker 2: a quick time of slim since I started.
Speaker 4: Okay, so this is quick time of slot We're gonna
Speaker 4: give you two asses, right, two choices, two choice choices,
Speaker 4: you pick. You picked one, We don't drink. You picked both.
Speaker 4: We all drink.
Speaker 3: You picked both, politically correct. Let me still take a shot.
Speaker 4: We drink with you, so you don't have to take
Speaker 4: a shot, because the beautiful seemed like you. You're a
Speaker 4: shot god, but you take SIPs off champagne.
Speaker 2: But we're gonna have be a designated drink. Any is
Speaker 2: the same thing. We have a shot, a designated drinker,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean. Gotta go with a doubt.
Speaker 2: We repping Dominicans. We got Mama Horner right here. If
Speaker 2: you want something, I don't want that laid off.
Speaker 4: We giving you your flowers, give you your praises. Okay,
Speaker 4: first first, but we don't write these questions. This is
Speaker 4: the Colombian and Dominican over there that white questions. They
Speaker 4: analyze you when then they yes, this is just a fact. Okay,
Speaker 4: you ready for the first shoot? Oh jam you got
Speaker 4: the shots ready though? Because I feel like he's going
Speaker 4: to answer this predominantly.
Speaker 2: You drink to everybody drinking, got the first one? Yes?
Speaker 3: Nos a jay z, Yes, that's it. Nasa jay Z're
Speaker 3: not doing to pick one, please, I'm picking one for
Speaker 3: what what? I'm picking whatever you want wanted them to say?
Speaker 2: Who's all?
Speaker 5: It's whatever the criteria in your mind, best them, see,
Speaker 5: best friend, best dressed, whatever the fun is.
Speaker 2: In your mind.
Speaker 5: It could be both, it could be neither. It could
Speaker 5: be one of them, and you can tell us the
Speaker 5: story to go with it too.
Speaker 3: I'll funk with both, right, I'm gonna tell you why
Speaker 3: you Okay, you know I love Nah. It's my brother
Speaker 3: and I love Jay because that's my brother too. Of
Speaker 3: what he did for the game, he took him the heights.
Speaker 3: That right, we all dream, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3: So I'm blocking them both. Okay, that's a shot.
Speaker 2: That's a shot. That's a shot. If it's both neither,
Speaker 2: I feel like it's gonna be a lot of both.
Speaker 2: He is too smooth, like I think he could be.
Speaker 3: He's definitely he definitely could be city councilor ready of
Speaker 3: d m X. I'm gonna go with part because Park
Speaker 3: put a lot of work in You got any stories
Speaker 3: of Park or I don't have. I met Park one time.
Speaker 3: The crazy thing is I met pock at I think
Speaker 3: it was a Jay release party. That's some crazy ship.
Speaker 3: I hed our release party. It was one of the
Speaker 3: clubs and it wasn't. It wasn't Pladi Damn. I'm mad
Speaker 3: because but there.
Speaker 7: No, it was.
Speaker 3: It was a vaka fella And as I released, I
Speaker 3: came there and then part came Wong through the door,
Speaker 3: his motherfuckerself and like, what, what's what's up? So yeah,
Speaker 3: so but I fuck with Park because he's got so
Speaker 3: much work about. I fun with ask two though, you
Speaker 3: know you hit me with hard ship, So you're saying both,
Speaker 3: He said, Park had one.
Speaker 2: This is I knew these evil motherfucker's gonna do this. Motherfucker.
Speaker 2: This is not me Mega or Nature.
Speaker 3: I'm going I'm going with Mega, Okay, Mega, don Mega
Speaker 3: Dawn all right, Biggie or big L.
Speaker 6: B I G.
Speaker 2: I love L. I love L too, but b I
Speaker 2: G put that work in, you know what I mean?
Speaker 2: God half a mill or big pun? Oh dirty man,
Speaker 2: dirty yah yah, dirty man.
Speaker 12: I'm going yeah, I'm going with both, with both, man,
Speaker 12: drink drink there's another dirty one.
Speaker 3: Oh d b r buz wow, y'all dirty again, man,
Speaker 3: I'm going with both.
Speaker 2: I can't even both.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna taking it God damn early they know what
Speaker 3: they're doing. You're gonna be drunk.
Speaker 5: We don't.
Speaker 3: This is my favorite question, by the way, one of
Speaker 3: my favorites n w a o Wu tang Wo.
Speaker 2: He was a y'all dirty. I don't want to get drunk.
Speaker 3: It's not about see what it is is you're talking
Speaker 3: about just picking sip. You're talking about what the culture, right,
Speaker 3: I'm thinking worldwide. Both of them did the culture both.
Speaker 2: And he got the shirt on.
Speaker 3: You can't tell me nothing what's going on? But I
Speaker 3: fuck with both. I got both because the Woo no
Speaker 3: just selling. That's what I'm saying. Fuck that both, all right,
Speaker 3: solo solid.
Speaker 2: You ain't wrong for the.
Speaker 3: I always think that is the beston. You should say both.
Speaker 3: I always think that that's.
Speaker 2: Me red Man or styles P. That's a nice one, man,
Speaker 2: that's a nice one. Damn I got you some motherfuckers.
Speaker 10: Man.
Speaker 2: Just think about it. Think about it a little bit.
Speaker 2: That's that's all on.
Speaker 3: Again both, okay, y'all, I keep it. Love my comrades, man,
Speaker 3: Fuck it.
Speaker 2: I think A Z is a blue Switzerland. He is
Speaker 2: taking over. He is politically correct, all right. What they
Speaker 2: said on your Twitter though, they was like yo, he
Speaker 2: don't let him smooth talk you. Somebody said that on
Speaker 2: you and guess what it's happening? Alright, d J clewor
Speaker 2: do wop you said that rare ghosts.
Speaker 3: What are you'all doing? Man?
Speaker 2: Like this is crazy drinking on you? She already know.
Speaker 2: Look you know already around both brothers. Man, brother you
Speaker 2: want to take over you you you in the hot.
Speaker 2: You gotta do the water though, Jamie, you can't water.
Speaker 2: You said boat five times? Oh ship damn you get
Speaker 2: your get your ther d j R Down. How many
Speaker 2: want to more? A couple of more people? Man, yeah,
Speaker 2: care us one O rock him.
Speaker 5: Yeo.
Speaker 2: They know what they're doing. Man that I'm not from
Speaker 2: the Bronx, A love of brons My not form the Bronx.
Speaker 6: Leading you.
Speaker 2: I'm going, okay, I'm going, I'm going about that's all.
Speaker 2: Just one is. Yeah, you want to ask amadic or
Speaker 2: ready to die?
Speaker 3: Oh dirty.
Speaker 5: For you? You could have been like I'm on hmatic.
Speaker 5: So I'm gonna just say amadic. I know that I
Speaker 5: know I can't make listen.
Speaker 4: It's something born in Brooklyn. People that don't get Brooklyn.
Speaker 4: We've been studying this, I mean, had we had this
Speaker 4: ran Western.
Speaker 3: I already took mine, my bad spial and we noticed
Speaker 3: bid can against Brooklyn.
Speaker 2: They cannot. It's something in their system. It's the yall
Speaker 2: when y'all was born with Brooklyn.
Speaker 3: They'll kill each other, but they won't go against each
Speaker 3: other against any other.
Speaker 2: Barrel right, Relax down me and I'm with you. I
Speaker 2: hadji rap or scarface is nice. I'm going wrapped though.
Speaker 2: This is a good one. M O P or mom deep.
Speaker 3: It's a good one. That's a good one. It's a
Speaker 3: good one. It's a good one.
Speaker 2: That's a good one. Will m O P m O P,
Speaker 2: will m O.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna go in brand Nubian or poor Righty's teachers.
Speaker 2: Brand new Bens one for all.
Speaker 3: Off one, I said the bees he even though like
Speaker 3: my name is David Rufford, we toober in seas just
Speaker 3: like an.
Speaker 2: Ingus muffin man him. He just jokes out at me.
Speaker 6: You know what I mean?
Speaker 5: I don't know.
Speaker 2: I think I should say poor. Here's more Brooklyn smoother
Speaker 2: hustler sauce money.
Speaker 3: Go smooth. I know, smooth, but fuck with smooth sauce
Speaker 3: of fuck with you. But I'm gonna go smooth Okay.
Speaker 2: Gumbo or Branson. What the fuck is gumbo? You canna
Speaker 2: find out? Don't go right now. I'm fucking that's my dude,
Speaker 2: Brands and the Prince of Gumbo. He smoked. He said,
Speaker 2: you don't smoke. Damn that that's why you gotta know.
Speaker 2: We gotta here smoke the dead said this broke today.
Speaker 2: Would you be an honorary smoke cutter.
Speaker 3: He's here like.
Speaker 2: Hour the fourth hour hour. All right, you know what
Speaker 2: a lot of happened in the I respect that.
Speaker 4: Okay, push your tear, kiss kiss smoother, hustler, or say.
Speaker 2: That we did that. We did that? Sorry, yes he
Speaker 2: picked Okay, Yeah, queenland Tea for empty light.
Speaker 3: Wow, fucking wild both.
Speaker 5: I know, but.
Speaker 3: I know them, both, them both.
Speaker 2: And remember any stories. Please.
Speaker 3: We say these names to bring a light before light
Speaker 3: got on. One of my peoples knew her. Oh I
Speaker 3: think she had one song I see from Brooklyn. Uh
Speaker 3: and my people was introduced back. Actually she wasn't even
Speaker 3: on she even had a record on buck and get
Speaker 3: on em Light.
Speaker 2: I knew her. Uh my homie was I guess he was.
Speaker 2: Was she gonna sign him?
Speaker 3: I don't know what it was she was gonna sign
Speaker 3: them or or there was there was I don't know
Speaker 3: what was going on.
Speaker 2: But he rapped, she raps. I met her, I brought
Speaker 2: her to the East.
Speaker 3: My man had They was just DJ ship, get me
Speaker 3: DJ outside.
Speaker 2: She rapped and it's like, Yo, we're.
Speaker 3: Gonna gonna politics a and and like light People's Man
Speaker 3: and then Queen Lost. She always first album, she'll come
Speaker 3: to the studio and just chill, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3: She knew my manager. She always showed love when she
Speaker 3: sees me, like, yeah, they show love.
Speaker 2: They from that era, you know what I mean. Podcaster Radio,
Speaker 2: I don't know about this podcast. I'm trying to figure
Speaker 2: it out. I'm trying it out. Yeah, no I'm not.
Speaker 2: I'm I'm I'm I'm gonna go. I'm going with the
Speaker 2: radio right now. I don't know too much about the podcast.
Speaker 2: That's We Don't Mess.
Speaker 3: Yankees.
Speaker 2: That's too Yeah. Ice Cube or ice Tea? Which ice
Speaker 2: will it be? Oh?
Speaker 3: And fun with ice Tea smoke that's my dude, you know,
Speaker 3: he my dude, ice Cube put he kicked the doors
Speaker 3: down though. He I want to see Ice Cube at
Speaker 3: the Apollo ninety three.
Speaker 2: He was at that show. I was there.
Speaker 3: I was there, changed my life with tennis balls, changed
Speaker 3: my life there they're doing money off the balcony, changed
Speaker 3: my life. People in the audience was doing the money
Speaker 3: of the drug dealers. Yes, and I was there front center.
Speaker 3: I was probably like a V seven. I remember that
Speaker 3: ship just oh my god. He tore that motherfucker damn
Speaker 3: like no other ship.
Speaker 2: Both.
Speaker 3: I'm like, y'all, damn, what you're gonna have a heart attack?
Speaker 2: We got we got certain Come on yo, how many more? No?
Speaker 6: We got?
Speaker 2: But we're drinking with them? Was this ship bill for this?
Speaker 9: So?
Speaker 2: Was New Jack City or King of New York?
Speaker 3: He's they're never fucking easy easy, nigga, what which one?
Speaker 2: I want to hear? What you wanna said? King of
Speaker 2: New York, that's my ship.
Speaker 3: But New Jack City was crazy, like motherfucker biggie, like baby.
Speaker 2: Baby, I'm going King in New York. Okay, I'm saving
Speaker 2: Thank you, Pete rock or Riz. Wow, I don't wanna
Speaker 2: do this no more.
Speaker 3: Almost almost almost Yeah, I'm gonna I'm gonna go with Pete.
Speaker 3: I'm going Pete. I'm gonna Pete l l or Big
Speaker 3: Daddy Kinge. And this is clearly light skin against dark skin.
Speaker 3: Let's see where you. Let's see because you clearly I'm
Speaker 3: gonna with K because that's one of my that's one
Speaker 3: of my You have to cut your eyes.
Speaker 2: I didn't have it, but I would get it. Is
Speaker 2: Gold Premiere or buck Wild thirty may not. I just
Speaker 2: did the album buck Wild drinking.
Speaker 3: That's my boy.
Speaker 2: Drink up for Premier. I even drink to that. Both
Speaker 2: Gang Star or I'm gonna e PM. I love Gang Star,
Speaker 2: you know I love y'all.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, em fishing hats just because they put that
Speaker 3: work in and then they they turned up. When I
Speaker 3: was you know, I mean trying to figure it out,
Speaker 3: they was turning up. You know what I mean.
Speaker 2: That's real.
Speaker 4: Yeah, your TV raps or be their music box, be
Speaker 4: their music box. Ralph Ralph all days right kick a
Speaker 4: pre or right alert.
Speaker 3: Damn that's crazy too. I'm going because he just he
Speaker 3: he changed the game, did too.
Speaker 2: But you know, okay a finger get that one. He's
Speaker 2: more backpack than me. Analog or digital.
Speaker 3: Analog like analog.
Speaker 2: Most death are coming.
Speaker 4: Most death, yeah, the last one based the last one.
Speaker 4: Loyalty or respect, wow, both. This is the time where
Speaker 4: we say you're supposed to pick both.
Speaker 2: Goddamn right. The next game is called quicker Time when
Speaker 2: slum that's what's up. Let's tell these people, how did
Speaker 2: you get started in this game? Immediately? How do I
Speaker 2: get started?
Speaker 5: Bro?
Speaker 13: I just I mean, like he said, we you know,
Speaker 13: we was both born on the West Coast but raised
Speaker 13: in the east, like Bronx, New York, looking at that
Speaker 13: ship like right out my window, you know what I mean,
Speaker 13: Like and my and my parents like even though they
Speaker 13: wasn't like super strict, they kept me on the long
Speaker 13: lease so like I could go to the gams and
Speaker 13: all that, but yo coming by a certain time, you
Speaker 13: know what I mean, Like shit like that said correct,
Speaker 13: half Cuban, half Puerto Rican, so.
Speaker 2: I was able to like.
Speaker 13: Right, so grand Master Kazd, I mean later on in life,
Speaker 13: I understood it. I mean I realized it later on
Speaker 13: in life, like Grand Mass Class grandmass Kas live right
Speaker 13: up the block, got a rock whipped with from Fantastic five,
Speaker 13: lift that way up the block, you know what I mean,
Speaker 13: Like you had a lot of those around you right
Speaker 13: right around. I went to eighty first, between Valentine and Rya.
Speaker 13: That's where they film Wild Style, you know, what I mean,
Speaker 13: like all that shit. So I seen that shit right
Speaker 13: outside my window. Bro, So everybody on my block trying
Speaker 13: to be a DT at nine years old, like I
Speaker 13: think it was my tenth birthday or my ninth birthday.
Speaker 13: My parents gave me like a whole system, like a
Speaker 13: whole two turned tables, I know you would know, slb ones,
Speaker 13: a Gemini mixer, Pioneer receiver, some gym sound speakers, like
Speaker 13: I had the whole shit, you know, so I was
Speaker 13: able to venture out and do what I do, you know,
Speaker 13: do what I had to do at the same time,
Speaker 13: like you know what I mean.
Speaker 3: So you had the spikes nose spikes.
Speaker 2: He wasn't that far back, Spike, I was that far back,
Speaker 2: but he was a kid.
Speaker 14: I think I see the spikes from your closet. No, Spike,
Speaker 14: don't break dancing.
Speaker 13: Didn't break this and hell come on, but we all
Speaker 13: popped locked a little bit, like tried.
Speaker 2: But you know what I mean. So, so where did
Speaker 2: you get the inspiration from? Do mixtapes?
Speaker 13: I mean obviously the star child Brucey b k Capri
Speaker 13: hockey inspiration late eighties going into the nineties, and and
Speaker 13: you know, and I went to school with Capri.
Speaker 2: So I seen it, you know firsthand. I skin walls
Speaker 2: that one time. So so you know that's how I
Speaker 2: went down.
Speaker 13: Yeah yeah, you know to be for you talking about
Speaker 13: so we had that and yeah, so I mean, but
Speaker 13: you know what, but like Capri like he showed us
Speaker 13: like we can you could be a DJ without having
Speaker 13: a rapper, like you know what I mean, like right
Speaker 13: now DJ for my my nigga A but he know,
Speaker 13: I do my thing on my own too, like like
Speaker 13: when we was coming up, like that was it right there?
Speaker 13: Like being yourself, like doing it yourself, like talking on
Speaker 13: the mic. You didn't need an MC with you like
Speaker 13: you did it all all on your own and ship.
Speaker 13: So that's how it went down. So right now they
Speaker 13: call for a Z to do a versus. Yeah, who
Speaker 13: do you think a Z versus against? Who's a pastic.
Speaker 2: Match and the DJ that you wanted to destroy? Nah? Nah,
Speaker 2: I ain't on that. I ain't on that battle show.
Speaker 13: I ain't on that battleship outside battleship all right, that
Speaker 13: battleship all right.
Speaker 2: But but but but I had enough.
Speaker 13: I had enough of those bro I had kick a
Speaker 13: pre me and Kate Slave went at it. Me and
Speaker 13: Clue went at it.
Speaker 2: You know what I mean. So you're veteran, We didn't
Speaker 2: did that. We didn't did that.
Speaker 4: Yes, survivors were moss, but but they Swiss calls you
Speaker 4: and says we went the perfect match.
Speaker 13: Swiss said it on live. He said he wanted me
Speaker 13: a comprie to do it again. But I'm not for
Speaker 13: a Z like a rap DJ and you the DJ.
Speaker 13: She wouldn't pick a rapper, yes, and a DJ.
Speaker 2: I don't know. I think this nigga to goat my nigga.
Speaker 2: So I ain't even really absolutely say that. Louder absolutely
Speaker 2: as is a motherfucking goat.
Speaker 11: You can know.
Speaker 2: Even though he want to fight me in the last
Speaker 2: tour we was on, let's talk about it, talk about it,
Speaker 2: what happened? What you making before?
Speaker 13: But you know what, you know what, we've been rocking
Speaker 13: like I know you since ninety five. We've been rocking
Speaker 13: on tour since twenty eleven. We had two fights, not
Speaker 13: even fights, arguments. That shows you his character, bro, because
Speaker 13: you know rappers, So what is it?
Speaker 3: What is it because because you're making him perform B
Speaker 3: side records or what.
Speaker 6: Is it that show.
Speaker 13: Just being on tour it's just being on tour too long,
Speaker 13: you know what I mean, and getting into that bullshit.
Speaker 2: Man, But you say, you know since ninety fight was it?
Speaker 2: When did he do ninety five?
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 2: In fact, because he was so he was in and out.
Speaker 13: When I did ninety five Live, I had Ray Kwan,
Speaker 13: kr Res, Lost Boys, all the niggas like Keith.
Speaker 2: Murray, Redman, Yo. This dude, whoever convinced him to come
Speaker 2: to do ninety five live. They came in with a
Speaker 2: mink coat.
Speaker 13: No, he came in and was out twelve bars, not
Speaker 13: even sixteen, twelve twelve balls in and out?
Speaker 2: How fast I was in there, in and out?
Speaker 13: But you did your motherfucker nah round the corner from
Speaker 13: DNDS called Noison AD.
Speaker 5: What you need to do is imagine that there's people listening,
Speaker 5: don't even know what we're talking about, don't know what
Speaker 5: we're talking about. A mixtape ninety five Lives Everybody did Freestyle.
Speaker 13: Ninety five Live is the first mixtape ever that had
Speaker 13: known rappers on it, like known popular popping rappers on.
Speaker 2: It right at the soul.
Speaker 13: So for instance, before ninety five, there was there was mixtapes.
Speaker 13: It was just DJ's doing cuts. And Blends and all
Speaker 13: that ship. Right, ninety five, I put out a mixtape
Speaker 13: that had krs Azy, Lost Boys, Ray Kwan on it.
Speaker 13: Nor Ain't coming coming.
Speaker 2: To somebody seven, I'm gonna tell you when Nordy came in.
Speaker 13: But but but you're right, so boom so we had
Speaker 13: all these rappers on it, and that was the first
Speaker 13: joint that ever had like you know what I mean,
Speaker 13: like known rappers.
Speaker 2: There was a game change, the mixtape game and in
Speaker 2: the hip hop period. Right. But if I say this
Speaker 2: sounds crazy, but somebody else got to explain it, like,
Speaker 2: but yeah, that shit got pressed. I got the vinyl.
Speaker 2: I think the tape masters of the vinyl. Right. But
Speaker 2: going back to Nordy.
Speaker 13: In ninety seven, I woke up around eleven twelve o'clock
Speaker 13: to a fucking voicemail, not even a voicemail. My ask
Speaker 13: ma shee it was ninety seven. This nigga said, I
Speaker 13: didn't give him my number, so I know I had
Speaker 13: my numbers. What it was in March ninety seven? He
Speaker 13: was like, yo, do what they just rated left?
Speaker 2: Right?
Speaker 13: It took everybody, took like fifty of my niggas. Yo,
Speaker 13: let me come to your house and do my verse
Speaker 13: right now, I ain't know what he was talking about. Checked,
Speaker 13: so I checked the time he left that message, like
Speaker 13: five fifteen in the morning. You know that he's been
Speaker 13: awake forty two hours.
Speaker 2: He was awake because they raided the projected. He was awake.
Speaker 6: That's read the.
Speaker 2: It's so right. I want to argue with him, argue
Speaker 2: with him. But so that's how early in the morning. Yo.
Speaker 4: But but but this union right here, y'all two together.
Speaker 4: It's dope, brother, it is super dope to super legends.
Speaker 2: So what happened?
Speaker 13: He?
Speaker 2: How did you getting it? No? I needed it.
Speaker 3: I needed a DJ at the time, the one I
Speaker 3: was dealing with, you know whatever whatever. So d O
Speaker 3: my manager at the time, he was my manager. Then
Speaker 3: he's like, yo, fuck with do O, Like do wow?
Speaker 3: Do I mixtape? But then he's like, now do this,
Speaker 3: do this, that and the third and I was like,
Speaker 3: all right, fuck, let me do one of two shows
Speaker 3: with them and that's it and then I'll figured out.
Speaker 2: But after that show, it was on. After that, where
Speaker 2: was the show?
Speaker 10: A ship?
Speaker 3: We went overseas the first time?
Speaker 2: The first song first time we went over went over all? Right,
Speaker 2: you remember where we RESI. It was twenty thirty right now,
Speaker 2: I tell you, right now. We went to Poland, like
Speaker 2: tell them about the Poland No, I don't know what
Speaker 2: that was. Poland ship, you said, Poland castle, the hotel
Speaker 2: did you say? Whatever you want? So we went to Poland.
Speaker 13: We went to Warsaw, Warsaw, I don't know, Germany, Poland,
Speaker 13: Switzerland or like all that ship.
Speaker 15: When we when we got the Poland And ship, we
Speaker 15: pulled up at the fucking hotel right obviously supposed.
Speaker 2: To be a room for me, in room for him.
Speaker 2: They was like, yo, what we don't have a room for.
Speaker 5: You right now.
Speaker 2: They all booked out. We're gonna put a in here
Speaker 2: and we're gonna take you down the block to another joint.
Speaker 2: No problem. It was like a castle thover the gate.
Speaker 3: They put me in a castle, man, they put him
Speaker 3: in the castle horn the castle by myself.
Speaker 2: That's what it did. Long long story show.
Speaker 3: I would think it was, I said, horner, because I'm
Speaker 3: not on. Even more fucking it ain't. No, there's no made, yo.
Speaker 2: They said there was no on.
Speaker 13: They said there was no rooms, but there was nobody
Speaker 13: at the desk working, like nobody.
Speaker 2: It was just through this ship, but we didn't. I
Speaker 2: didn't know that. I went to my ship. He did
Speaker 2: the show.
Speaker 13: After the show back then, I don't know what year
Speaker 13: it was, but I got an email from a for
Speaker 13: after the show. He was like, Yo, fuck that, I
Speaker 13: got an extra room on.
Speaker 2: My joint this ship. Crazy could be in the house.
Speaker 2: I did the same ship. He was like, Yo. So
Speaker 2: as I'm reading the email, I get a knock on
Speaker 2: the fucking door and it's fucking hey. He was like, Yo,
Speaker 2: come with me to my ship. Shit crazy right now?
Speaker 2: Can we get over there? It's a whole nother room.
Speaker 2: Every room is unoccupied. It was just weird ship a
Speaker 2: castle as a promoter. What the is going on now?
Speaker 2: He was out the next day. Yeah, it was something.
Speaker 13: I don't know what it was anyway, that's how far.
Speaker 13: But it was like two thousand and thirteen, twenty twelve.
Speaker 13: You got that thousand twelve. That's when we saw the rocket.
Speaker 3: They see who got the best ways in the game
Speaker 3: is going now? I don't know. I don't know who ship.
Speaker 2: I think you was to be cheating because you was Dominican.
Speaker 3: I know you got you got training this ship no
Speaker 3: matter what. I got to train him because when we
Speaker 3: first seen you, I ain't gonna lie. Everybody was sea
Speaker 3: sick over your ship. Ever, Yeah, coming through that, that
Speaker 3: was avera man, that was the average. Take him this
Speaker 3: with him, take it this way. I'm gonna take it
Speaker 3: back this way.
Speaker 2: Okay. So how did you keep it?
Speaker 3: That's how you keep your shit together? You brought Yeah,
Speaker 3: they say a hundred times a day. I didn't count.
Speaker 13: You know, count y'all telling my more money, more murder though.
Speaker 13: You was like you told about some ship. You told
Speaker 13: me about me.
Speaker 2: I was like, you saw ghost nothing again, you got
Speaker 2: do more questions for a while. Yes, so say what
Speaker 2: you said he said when they made more money, more murder,
Speaker 2: he told me.
Speaker 13: He was like, yo, it was like we on we's
Speaker 13: on another vibe, like we've seen ghosts and spirits and shipp.
Speaker 2: I said, probably for me.
Speaker 3: When I do right, I go into my zone and
Speaker 3: I you know, for my homies that passed, that's what
Speaker 3: comes to my mom and I do shot anything down,
Speaker 3: that's that's my energy, my vibe, my vib a' you
Speaker 3: pus my vib from then anything I do it it's fun,
Speaker 3: you know. I for the homies is not here, you know,
Speaker 3: what I mean. And they're my motivation honestly, because let's
Speaker 3: you know, be clear.
Speaker 4: I know we're jumping around, but East New York at
Speaker 4: one point was the murder capital of the world, you
Speaker 4: know what I mean. So I imagine you grew up
Speaker 4: with a lot of people that you not there that
Speaker 4: so is that something that like? Because that's crazy like and.
Speaker 2: It's you shell shock.
Speaker 3: Right, it happens at fifteen, you know when the home
Speaker 3: mee down live right next door, get his face blowing.
Speaker 3: And we're young, we little boy, we're still in junior
Speaker 3: high school. Right, you figure out damn tragedy somebody I
Speaker 3: didn't a week later, the next home a week later,
Speaker 3: the one down the blot and it's just.
Speaker 2: You know what I mean.
Speaker 3: That's how Life's the Bitch came about anyway, you know
Speaker 3: what I mean from that.
Speaker 2: Right, because life's a bitch. And then you're done, you die.
Speaker 3: Let's get to it before we before we go home
Speaker 3: after mindset, right, get to it. Let's live for the
Speaker 3: people that's not here, people.
Speaker 2: Have never made it. Let's let's enjoy it. You enjoying it,
Speaker 2: you know, got to enjoy we God, we got to
Speaker 2: I mean, I got a rhyme where I say.
Speaker 3: The teacher said I wasn't good off words, Well, bitch,
Speaker 3: I got rich off words.
Speaker 2: We so especial education. Got love for you.
Speaker 3: I mean, but hey, man, I'm gonna be honest with you. Man,
Speaker 3: you're one of the You're one.
Speaker 2: Of those guys.
Speaker 3: Appreciate it.
Speaker 4: No, no, no, no, seriously, you're one of those guys
Speaker 4: when people speak about hip hops, your name is there. Uh,
Speaker 4: you're one of the heavy hitters. You're one of the
Speaker 4: people that are the lyrical greats. Yeah, lyrical greats.
Speaker 3: And here's the thing, right, I've been through a lot
Speaker 3: of labels, but I never was dropped. That's a big thing, right,
Speaker 3: I just was for some reason through the most high
Speaker 3: They probably realized they wasn't doing the right thing. And
Speaker 3: when I asked for my walk on papers, I got it.
Speaker 3: I kept it moving. And you know, I don't I
Speaker 3: don't blame no circumstances right on nothing, because I'm still grinding.
Speaker 3: I'm still here, right and it's a beautiful thing, and
Speaker 3: that's my drive. Just stay focused, stay grinded, you know
Speaker 3: what I mean. Any blame, I blame myself or anything,
Speaker 3: but the Johnny is a beautiful one when traded for
Speaker 3: none in the world. So this is a rumor, right,
Speaker 3: Foxy Brown coming out with Lola up Brook?
Speaker 2: Is this some Brooklyn ship you're coming out too.
Speaker 3: I don't know what's going on.
Speaker 2: I know about it.
Speaker 3: It might happen, you know, that'd be a beautiful thing.
Speaker 2: We haven't seen far yo. Man, you said you went
Speaker 2: to the cribb Still.
Speaker 3: That got weird when he said when that stage, you're
Speaker 3: gonna stop the press, you know.
Speaker 2: I man, Yeah, I've been waiting to see. Yeah, Fox
Speaker 2: come every wanted on drink chair. That would be great.
Speaker 5: You know what.
Speaker 3: I'm so much not selfish when it comes to Fox that.
Speaker 2: I just want to have her the best look possible.
Speaker 2: If she got to go on Gail King because I
Speaker 2: know I just said Oprah special ship, but we want
Speaker 2: the best, man.
Speaker 5: I know.
Speaker 2: You gotta love for Fox.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Man, she's she's she got come come on, I
Speaker 3: tell her, come on, man, go Fox.
Speaker 2: Yeah for this new album to but this new album
Speaker 2: once again many buck while he produced the whole joint.
Speaker 3: I'm excited because you know me putting door dot too
Speaker 3: and got a lot of love, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3: So my goals is always trying to top the last
Speaker 3: album I did and I think I did it.
Speaker 2: You know, different vibes close different. You know what we
Speaker 2: do is hip hops. Who's the features on here?
Speaker 3: I got I got found march on one, I got
Speaker 3: Fat Joe on the joint.
Speaker 2: Let's let's pull up that drop and I got.
Speaker 3: I got more moved fresh on it female m move fresh,
Speaker 3: she gets busy. Yeah, okay, you.
Speaker 2: Got, you got, you got the I pads? Are we
Speaker 2: a little unprofessional age? You know you made us drink?
Speaker 2: You know what I mean? Everybody, we always hold on
Speaker 2: the start a Fat Joe because.
Speaker 3: We we started to a couple of people to make
Speaker 3: sure you get some love. You ain't come here in
Speaker 3: eight years, so we want to make sure this is
Speaker 3: well worth it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we can't believe you originated and ship No, not quite.
Speaker 2: You said it not. Why we can't We can't take
Speaker 2: that on. You can't. I want app in them and
Speaker 2: and Combat Jack and iced Tea, and.
Speaker 5: He was doing internet radio that was like the precursor
Speaker 5: of the podcast head short.
Speaker 16: Add great, one of the greatest, doing one of the
Speaker 16: blue pricks all.
Speaker 6: Of US rappers done in his life.
Speaker 16: You know, it's a part of that legendary and you
Speaker 16: know that's who faded album, never Dave and everything else.
Speaker 6: You get himself.
Speaker 3: He see.
Speaker 6: You deserve all your clows, my brother.
Speaker 17: Yeah, David bad congratulations, get onto your champs during the
Speaker 17: ufing family.
Speaker 6: I love Y'ALLU da better. God appreciate you for still,
Speaker 6: But lessons with the hits.
Speaker 2: Easy for me, right right?
Speaker 7: What else?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Yeah, alright, we got more, We got more, We got more.
Speaker 3: We're gonna We're gonna there. Okay, come on, excise us
Speaker 3: the Conway let's do call. Yes, yeah, Conway salute, Salute salute.
Speaker 2: We're playing right in. Yeah, yeah, I'll get the far
Speaker 2: audio treatment.
Speaker 3: Yeah, because Rod's computer don't work like that.
Speaker 2: Mm hm mm hm. That's well that's real.
Speaker 6: You gotta come up more, right.
Speaker 3: Yeah, because man, it really it really it really it really,
Speaker 3: I really.
Speaker 4: Like you know, we waited this long and at the
Speaker 4: end of the day, I know that you know, you
Speaker 4: know you're busy, We're busy. But the thing about it,
Speaker 4: I wanted you to know how much appreciated you are
Speaker 4: in this world and this life and this thing that
Speaker 4: we do, because in case you didn't know, I wanted
Speaker 4: to make sure you he rated that because you know
Speaker 4: what I mean, like this is just legendary man, like
Speaker 4: you did, what you being been a part of and
Speaker 4: what you represent represent is absolutely love.
Speaker 7: Thank you.
Speaker 16: God.
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, lou k yes uh ting d.
Speaker 6: Yeah yeah yeah that you never do them coming out
Speaker 6: with the y'all. Man, I got so much to say
Speaker 6: about ez.
Speaker 2: Other fucking man we're talking.
Speaker 6: Nas license bitch that that verse.
Speaker 10: It's just it's just everything, man. You know, I want
Speaker 10: to get the acs flowers.
Speaker 6: You know, it's one of those guys, my brothers, guys
Speaker 6: that I looked at as.
Speaker 10: Definitely inspiration.
Speaker 6: You know, the first time I heard my voice rapping,
Speaker 6: I felt.
Speaker 3: Like I set my voice side like a that's crazy,
Speaker 3: you know.
Speaker 11: Shout out to him, man, what you loved him with
Speaker 11: the battles, you know, you know you said every every
Speaker 11: every good slows everybody.
Speaker 4: Well with that doggy diamonds. Okay that that rod. Your
Speaker 4: volume is not looking good at all.
Speaker 3: You can't hear that.
Speaker 2: We're gonna make it, okay, search search what is sold
Speaker 2: me too?
Speaker 10: Almost like.
Speaker 2: Don't know it? Yeah you just said that finished.
Speaker 6: I guess so now.
Speaker 10: Except for this, that was just uh see sir by
Speaker 10: the fits and that just depends on Saturday talent. He
Speaker 10: is say listen to link the movies fo.
Speaker 9: Paion and I just you know, there's that moment where
Speaker 9: you you know, nas special because you've hurted them all
Speaker 9: live to walk to people heard him.
Speaker 10: All about it.
Speaker 6: Has easy. I was not familiar with at all.
Speaker 10: So when I heard it was heard, I mean I
Speaker 10: was blown.
Speaker 2: Away because you know, at good time, I always felt
Speaker 2: that I knew all that sees.
Speaker 10: I thought I knew everyone that I had never heard
Speaker 10: of the thing. But the second I heard him wrong,
Speaker 10: I just knew that beside or see with in my
Speaker 10: whole life I wanted to work with. Not only did dramatic.
Speaker 3: Last success took you like so you know, that's well,
Speaker 3: it's culture.
Speaker 10: Very happy that you're having a station.
Speaker 6: Very happy.
Speaker 10: You know, it's a great bread and sits down, Get
Speaker 10: drink chance and tell people about.
Speaker 9: Who you walk because I don't think you're very had
Speaker 9: a lot of opportunities.
Speaker 6: So that's well, give me a flowers Michael Class.
Speaker 2: Indeed, yes, sirree what to do your.
Speaker 6: Girl?
Speaker 1: Oh no, no, for you, I really want to do
Speaker 1: I really want to because you know you've been trying
Speaker 1: to do this for so long, and I really wanted
Speaker 1: I just want no miscommunication.
Speaker 2: I want all out.
Speaker 3: I wanted the people to know that it's not us, never,
Speaker 3: it's not just us, it's the.
Speaker 2: World who got love as well.
Speaker 3: And I wanted to motherfucking capture that man, that's real.
Speaker 2: But by the time the episode come out, I got
Speaker 2: a couple more.
Speaker 3: Okay, I wanted, you know what I mean, go all
Speaker 3: out because you.
Speaker 4: Really deserve, you know, all the flowers, you really deserve,
Speaker 4: the love, you really.
Speaker 6: Deserve all this.
Speaker 2: And I know you're a smooth guy.
Speaker 4: And probably don't accept that the love that you you
Speaker 4: deserve and you get.
Speaker 2: But I don't want to be humble for you. I
Speaker 2: want to be talking for you. You know what? That
Speaker 2: was classic? That's classic.
Speaker 3: Holy that's the.
Speaker 4: Fat diamonds are here all right now? Now, now this
Speaker 4: is one where the'se got diamonds these all right? Hold
Speaker 4: on common thing. I want diamonds and snowballs.
Speaker 2: Oh you got hold on all right? Put it together,
Speaker 2: speat it together. Then give me the diamonds and the snowballs. Yeah,
Speaker 2: are you ready for quick timmers song?
Speaker 3: Guys would be laid out on the floor, all right,
Speaker 3: let's talk about give me yours.
Speaker 2: I heard give me yours. It was like hearing.
Speaker 4: Nas mimic almost Teddy picnographs, and I wanted because I
Speaker 4: heard give me yours, I bitch your style. So I
Speaker 4: asked Nas to run us to sing on music make
Speaker 4: these stuff.
Speaker 3: Because I heard them on that. So what was this
Speaker 3: session like when y'all did give me yours? Me and
Speaker 3: Pete vocavit? He did rather unique, So then we wash.
Speaker 3: He said he had more. So you know, Nas used
Speaker 3: to come to the studio with me. Uh the fact
Speaker 3: that you know allmatic diad with the day he was
Speaker 3: on tour, I was working on my so he always
Speaker 3: came for support. And then Pete put that on and
Speaker 3: I guess NAS had I guess one of them life
Speaker 3: to bitch moment, Like he just started singing that shit
Speaker 3: and I was like, yo, what is that? I was like,
Speaker 3: and he did that and it felt like like bitch
Speaker 3: because I kind of had that same flow on there.
Speaker 3: And he did the hook this time, and I went
Speaker 3: in and and did the one too. That's a classic too,
Speaker 3: or door die.
Speaker 4: Yeah, we're gonna stop labeling just summer classic.
Speaker 2: Most of your ship is classic. That's real, that's real.
Speaker 2: Who were your inspirations growing up?
Speaker 10: Like?
Speaker 2: How did how did you formulate your style?
Speaker 10: Had?
Speaker 2: You know, everybody has different MC the.
Speaker 3: Facts of course, Rob him was everybody. Well, I guess
Speaker 3: those that came out of my error. We all idolized
Speaker 3: rock because he came through and he switched the style
Speaker 3: up and he bought some smooth. But it was Rob
Speaker 3: king g rap.
Speaker 2: You know, slick Rick, kr r Rest, you know what
Speaker 2: I mean?
Speaker 3: To meet them are the greats. That's my soundtrack.
Speaker 2: I think g rap was your favorite though, right? All
Speaker 2: three g out the top three.
Speaker 3: G rap Well no, but they all to me, they
Speaker 3: all bought something different to the table. You don't mean
Speaker 3: I had to know the self.
Speaker 11: You know.
Speaker 3: G had the world play, came had that fly ship
Speaker 3: to me, you know what I'm saying. And slick Rick
Speaker 3: had the storytelling and the Cara re sport, you know
Speaker 3: what I mean, that other vibe you know. And even
Speaker 3: I throw Ellen Chunky up in there too, you know
Speaker 3: what I mean.
Speaker 2: So yeah, l smooth shit.
Speaker 3: Frinda got a big old butt. That album was crazy.
Speaker 3: Black Fanther was a crazy album. Yeah, in Public Enemy, Yeah, incredible.
Speaker 3: Let's talk about God. Some problems. Yeah, yeah, I had
Speaker 3: some problems then who bars chick at the bars? But
Speaker 3: I think I got off the last label that I
Speaker 3: was on at that time, because I was on a
Speaker 3: couple of labels I was I was on and the
Speaker 3: version that I fuck with, Yeah, that's what Janet Jackson
Speaker 3: was was doing there right because they that was like
Speaker 3: the parent company to em out. So when they folded,
Speaker 3: then you know what I mean. Then I went to
Speaker 3: yab Young believe it or not, that was with a
Speaker 3: lecture for a minute. It was a quick minute. Nobody
Speaker 3: never knew because it was like, yeah, Young, that was
Speaker 3: Tracy Edmonds baby babyface, white baby baby face over there
Speaker 3: for a minute.
Speaker 2: That folded.
Speaker 3: So then then I was like, all right, what the fuck, man,
Speaker 3: I gotta do something. So I put that soul Side
Speaker 3: was on that soul Side joint. But then when I
Speaker 3: put it out, put that CD out, Motown heard it Motown?
Speaker 3: You fuck with Motown for a minute, and was you
Speaker 3: like the only rapper on Motown at that time? Ship
Speaker 3: That's where I fuck up something and I think, but
Speaker 3: then I don't bite.
Speaker 2: My thing is like a gamble, like I want to.
Speaker 3: Be the nucleus where you know if you're on a label,
Speaker 3: I'm the only artist you'll saw all that love, and
Speaker 3: then from there I can open up doors for other
Speaker 3: artists to come. That's my mindset for with my all
Speaker 3: the legals that fuck with. It's kind of where why
Speaker 3: do you think about it Motown? But because I know
Speaker 3: if it worked there, then that could open the floodgates
Speaker 3: for other artists and then they can know that, you know,
Speaker 3: the hip hop worked there.
Speaker 2: But that's when neo soul hit at the time.
Speaker 3: Same time I was fucking Motown, they put out you know,
Speaker 3: Ragaba Duo and the other I forgot a name, but
Speaker 3: anyway in the dir and I was there and and
Speaker 3: it's like, all right, let's give it another shot. And
Speaker 3: I did the other album. They had the album and
Speaker 3: then that didn't work. So that's when I was like,
Speaker 3: I keep it moving, Yeah, kept it moving.
Speaker 2: So so to say more or less, I was more
Speaker 2: or less like.
Speaker 3: It's like a thinka the streets, but ain't got no family, right,
Speaker 3: He's moving around trying to figure it out a pose
Speaker 3: with somebody got a mother fuck. Because a lot of
Speaker 3: the artists signed one label, they rocked through the contractors up.
Speaker 3: If you think about it or to their transition something else.
Speaker 3: But it invades them, you know what I mean. So
Speaker 3: keep it moving, To keep it moving and keep it
Speaker 3: going was a great thing for me, right because the
Speaker 3: avenue from the man hanging on time for the ship.
Speaker 2: Fuck it, you know, do whatever.
Speaker 13: But yeah, I kept it going though, But he kept
Speaker 13: but he kept the newest car every time he pulls
Speaker 13: up to the crib.
Speaker 15: Didn't matter, didn't matter the fact you can walk got
Speaker 15: clean too, independent or major. He pulled up in the
Speaker 15: newest the car from the next year.
Speaker 2: Now you got a joint with Ross on his joint
Speaker 2: Bocharon like fly.
Speaker 3: That was nice.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, yo, it's a beautiful thing. Walls get busy.
Speaker 3: It was good man, So how did this happen? I'm
Speaker 3: trying to think.
Speaker 2: I don't even know either either.
Speaker 3: Oh oh well, I actually get on one of my joint,
Speaker 3: but the door died too never enough, and then he's like,
Speaker 3: you know, and then for that hop on his joint.
Speaker 2: So in fact, Joe also told me he just did
Speaker 2: a record with you as well.
Speaker 3: Beautiful.
Speaker 2: Yeah, tell me about that.
Speaker 3: Beautiful I mean with Joe, I mean jos jose Ah
Speaker 3: class Sack himself and he was doing a sneaker thing
Speaker 3: and I saw him. He gave me one of the
Speaker 3: sneakers they put out. And ironically, a couple of days
Speaker 3: after that, he was at the party. You know what
Speaker 3: I mean, he said, right, there were robbing Hawks wapping
Speaker 3: the album up. I'm like, keep running the joke, my
Speaker 3: fucking classics, and hits him, Hold, let's do something, you
Speaker 3: know what I mean? And Uh, that's the next thing.
Speaker 3: We're gonna put that out now, this new album. Yeah,
Speaker 3: it's crazy. Truth be told, Truth be told?
Speaker 2: Why'd your name me? Truth be told?
Speaker 3: It's my truth, right, I'm just speaking my truth on
Speaker 3: on these songs. It's a truth in there, you know
Speaker 3: what I mean. And one of the songs that really
Speaker 3: I took the title phone was called one of the
Speaker 3: I'm one of the greats. And when you hear that song,
Speaker 3: you'll see why I say truth, because, well, tell us, man,
Speaker 3: tell us, not just speak up. I never I never
Speaker 3: spoke about me transitioning into the hip hop and what
Speaker 3: I've been through and where I'm at now.
Speaker 2: So that particular song tell you how I got in the.
Speaker 3: Game before hip hop before, right, Well, it kind of sums.
Speaker 2: Up you know it's a three minute song, can't you
Speaker 2: know what I mean? Something up from me?
Speaker 3: How I got on what my mom said was what
Speaker 3: I've seen and while I'm here now, So it's a
Speaker 3: fly fly song.
Speaker 2: You ever think hip hop get this far?
Speaker 5: Never?
Speaker 2: Ever? Ever?
Speaker 3: I was mad as hell when you see this fucking
Speaker 3: when it was fucking up, I was like, oh many up,
Speaker 3: it's gold mine up.
Speaker 2: But you know that's what happens.
Speaker 5: And when you took that break, did you ever in
Speaker 5: that point of that break say I don't want to
Speaker 5: go back to this, back to back, back to the music,
Speaker 5: back to the music.
Speaker 3: No, no, never.
Speaker 5: I mean, was it literally that you wanted to sit
Speaker 5: back and watch and then pick the right time to
Speaker 5: come back.
Speaker 2: You can't pick the time.
Speaker 3: This ship switching like the sound the sonics changed.
Speaker 2: Like, I don't want to come back now.
Speaker 3: But if South got it, they got the Atlanta got it,
Speaker 3: if Midwest got it, you gotta wait.
Speaker 2: Well, it's it's not rated on controlling, so sonically.
Speaker 3: That's why I can jump back and I gotta be
Speaker 3: like this, I gotta wait to bust my gun, right.
Speaker 2: That's a lot of us.
Speaker 3: Doing it like you gotta wait to Saint the season,
Speaker 3: you know what I mean.
Speaker 5: So yeah, now you monetize your fan base. You don't
Speaker 5: have to worry about.
Speaker 2: The radio doing that for you. You can control that.
Speaker 3: With technology, you know, media, and what you're doing is
Speaker 3: a beautiful thing.
Speaker 2: Who's somebody you don't want to work with that you
Speaker 2: did work with yet?
Speaker 3: I didn't think about that yet.
Speaker 2: I woke with a lot of cats.
Speaker 3: But I'm trying to think who.
Speaker 5: Well put it like this, who from the older generation
Speaker 5: that you haven't worked that you want to and someone
Speaker 5: from the nude from now?
Speaker 2: Like right now, it's pop. That's good.
Speaker 3: Well, of course I never did that with one of
Speaker 3: my idels. Well I did with Givat, but of course
Speaker 3: more the idols. I would love to anyone, anyone you
Speaker 3: can pick it, do a name and a hat. Now,
Speaker 3: you know, I like I like you know j Cole,
Speaker 3: little baby, I like you and crazy, you know what
Speaker 3: I mean? Yeah, that's it. I mean, I'm sure it's more,
Speaker 3: but on the spot, of course. But Jake, I'm talking
Speaker 3: get my ship right, you know, I really braying. I'm
Speaker 3: trying to get get the wind back under my feet.
Speaker 4: The one thing about you and I, particularly if you're
Speaker 4: both from the ghetto, you're both from the hood, but
Speaker 4: you have no big words.
Speaker 2: Jesus Christ, I'm going to like the loss of the realism.
Speaker 2: I said, what the fuck went to school nineties A lot.
Speaker 3: Of yo hip hop school, Like that's the teacher, right,
Speaker 3: the hip hop school that's all man listening and teach
Speaker 3: you everything. And you want to know, just listen to
Speaker 3: hip hop and they tell you everything everything.
Speaker 5: Because when I told people, even some of the mcs
Speaker 5: that didn't know what they were saying, they were going
Speaker 5: to encyclopedias and say words that rhymes.
Speaker 2: The fan was like, I gotta look that word up,
Speaker 2: like we were all that way, but just a big word. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I'm not you get away from that.
Speaker 5: And no.
Speaker 3: So I was like, damn, these niggas went to school
Speaker 3: like I likes the bitch. I was like, wait a minute, yeah,
Speaker 3: big words.
Speaker 2: When y'all was battling you and your man both, y'all
Speaker 2: skipped all the big words. Was like, keeping it real,
Speaker 2: petty still for the big words. Yea, he take another, Yo,
Speaker 2: you ain't just the second drink? We do? They know
Speaker 2: they keep feeling up for him. No, he've been drinking
Speaker 2: the second one. He's been drinking.
Speaker 3: I just wanted to praise you a because you you
Speaker 3: you deserve it. Man, do you know how important you
Speaker 3: are to hip hop? And I said something like that
Speaker 3: because because I'm right here right and everybody can.
Speaker 2: Beach out, we don't say that.
Speaker 3: I appreciate it though, when you I'm here and people
Speaker 3: do that. But you know, people need to beat something often.
Speaker 3: That's why I go to the fox. That's why I
Speaker 3: beat child. You know what I mean, because we hear now,
Speaker 3: I don't want to you don't want to hear that
Speaker 3: one after the fact, right, So I appreciate when you
Speaker 3: showed me that the shout beautiful or keeps going, that's beautiful,
Speaker 3: just keep going. I'm just that's just the videos that
Speaker 3: that's beautiful.
Speaker 2: That's here now.
Speaker 4: But I wanted to show you, tell you and relate
Speaker 4: to you how special you are. There's nobody that you know.
Speaker 4: Everybody that I hit, they just send the video immediately.
Speaker 2: What the reason why?
Speaker 3: Though?
Speaker 2: Let's just say that right, because I got the way.
Speaker 3: You know, let everybody have their own character visions, do them,
Speaker 3: you know what I mean? Nobody hold it and down right,
Speaker 3: I just stay out the way and my goal is
Speaker 3: just to get to it like I was, and not
Speaker 3: capitalize on on getting to it. I wouldn't say the
Speaker 3: wrong way, but just you know, I still live about
Speaker 3: certain molds and principles and mobiles.
Speaker 2: So I'm out the way.
Speaker 3: So anybody hate on me or say anything fucked up.
Speaker 2: Nobody hate. He said, why you know what man like?
Speaker 2: And I respect everybody that that that shouted with them
Speaker 2: just as much. Yeah, and you know, the older you
Speaker 2: get you more Thanminican. You look Dominican.
Speaker 5: My moms just black because because Sonny Sonny, he said
Speaker 5: that the Z is.
Speaker 2: So he claiming you as a Haitian. Wow, up, I'm talking.
Speaker 6: I used to be instead of.
Speaker 3: Z.
Speaker 2: That was a good one. But let's keep it on
Speaker 2: the Dominican, right, because so you're dominic. It's a two
Speaker 2: part question.
Speaker 3: Right, Because we found out she's Dominican.
Speaker 2: We love that.
Speaker 4: Then we always knew he was dominic guests, but then
Speaker 4: we also your government name is Anthony Cruz. That's crazy,
Speaker 4: A Anthony Z.
Speaker 2: That's crazy. Is that how you came up with That's
Speaker 2: that's not how. But it makes sense.
Speaker 3: That's some crazy. That's Z on cruise as it makes
Speaker 3: sense the beginning and end.
Speaker 2: Okay, Yeah, so that's not how you came up with
Speaker 2: the name.
Speaker 3: Now, one of one of the one of the young
Speaker 3: guys in Brownsville. He was born to the nation, and
Speaker 3: I guess he was going from hoods to hoods you
Speaker 3: know everybody in Brooklyn on probably outside of Brooklyn. Now
Speaker 3: we talking about when he was young, and he was
Speaker 3: he was speaking in that language, you know what I mean,
Speaker 3: and and and and it kind of attracted me writing
Speaker 3: somebody talking big words like you said. And he was
Speaker 3: my age, probably years so older. And Me's like, yo, man, world,
Speaker 3: you know you're gone, right, this is what are you
Speaker 3: talking about? This ain't no mister v God you the
Speaker 3: original man asiadic man. So you the asiad actually a
Speaker 3: don't begin No. I was like, Yo, that's ship great,
Speaker 3: I'm gone gone, I'm gone, just man with it. But
Speaker 3: but then that makes sense, that makes sense as well.
Speaker 3: There wasn't another and yeah, okay style, yes, so I've
Speaker 3: had an as a couple of times. But as as
Speaker 3: as the game going on, I understand what was going on.
Speaker 2: You know, he was in the game. He uh it
Speaker 2: was my mopstyle. I know his name was as I've
Speaker 2: been from day one.
Speaker 3: So I guess you saw a land of capitalized, which
Speaker 3: which was cool right in hindsight, speaks to him a
Speaker 3: gangster littill be cool.
Speaker 2: But I would, I would.
Speaker 3: I'm sure I told him I want to be somebody
Speaker 3: I wouldn't have been. You don't disrespect because it was
Speaker 3: it was thre y'all. You know, I like getting fly
Speaker 3: and fucking bitches and things for that nature. I wouldn't
Speaker 3: necessarily been him, but I understand what was going on.
Speaker 3: You know, I don't disrespect him, but I understood what's
Speaker 3: going on at the time. You know what I mean,
Speaker 3: I'm green, I'm in the game. Onal what's going on.
Speaker 3: You know when you when you're coming in the game.
Speaker 3: You got the Lions there and they gonna, they're gonna,
Speaker 3: they're gonna buy it, right, is what it is.
Speaker 2: But it's good money.
Speaker 5: Man.
Speaker 3: We good now, We're good. Everybody good like we're all
Speaker 3: were good. Everybody everybody good now, God damn.
Speaker 2: So sorry, Sonny, he's not. I mean, he's Jason Dominican
Speaker 2: Republic right there.
Speaker 3: It's so about that Affirmative Action session that was crazy.
Speaker 3: I talked about the four Devils. I think I was
Speaker 3: your five percent ship for real.
Speaker 2: I think I was a goal to God for the intro.
Speaker 2: That's what I think at the end of the.
Speaker 3: Day, right, because I was always talking on into about
Speaker 3: figuring it out.
Speaker 2: Out you get in here, my mom. Think about it now,
Speaker 2: I'm like, I'm talking all these albums or so, who
Speaker 2: did that beat? I forgot back?
Speaker 3: Masters? Did that track?
Speaker 2: Us? Did that be? Was it dude GOUDI?
Speaker 5: You know.
Speaker 2: You remember.
Speaker 1: It was?
Speaker 3: I don't know, you know that is consisted of a
Speaker 3: slut of people. Yeah, but yeah, they did that and
Speaker 3: I guess that probably wasn't Now I'm laughing thinking about
Speaker 3: it turned out good.
Speaker 2: So how did this where yell acted?
Speaker 3: We were we were recorded that and Hit Factory or
Speaker 3: it wasn't you know?
Speaker 2: We did the frombum in Miami, Yes here and in
Speaker 2: l A too late, the Ladder a little bit.
Speaker 3: Of law but from the accident was on his album.
Speaker 3: Second album was So it was in a Hit factory
Speaker 3: and we always had rooms we had we had and
Speaker 3: I was always working in one room. I'm working in
Speaker 3: one room from a track master and they're working in one.
Speaker 2: Room and we were just bouncing.
Speaker 5: You know that.
Speaker 2: The world people don't know that.
Speaker 3: No, but anyway, so we bost the the world don't know,
Speaker 3: but yeah, bouncing and then I guess now's in las
Speaker 3: It was me, and then it was this god man,
Speaker 3: this god nice guy.
Speaker 2: Anyway, don't.
Speaker 3: I think I did Lady Rose for I laid Miles
Speaker 3: verse and then the Mega did his and then oh
Speaker 3: my god, foxing.
Speaker 5: We're talking affirmative action right that boxing went crazy.
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna lie to you.
Speaker 3: Boxing went crazy. And when people say she don't may
Speaker 3: own ship, she wrote that ship.
Speaker 2: Over that, No, you know, write that. This is when
Speaker 2: I knew I wasn't built for mathematics.
Speaker 7: She went on.
Speaker 18: She two quarters of key, swimming away trying. You were like,
Speaker 18: what school did she go to? You think everybody went
Speaker 18: to a different school. And she did that live in
Speaker 18: front of y'all.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, you know back then we can't send verses, Yeah,
Speaker 3: said no, you gotta be in the studio.
Speaker 2: Wow. Back then on the versus, everybody was in the studio. Wow.
Speaker 2: Changed the motherfucking game. Then you said, she wrote it
Speaker 2: completely herself, completely fast. So do you know, Lulu Kim?
Speaker 3: Of course, where was you at when you kind of
Speaker 3: like see Nate turnmoy with the two Brooklyn girls going
Speaker 3: against each other.
Speaker 5: Like that.
Speaker 3: It's sad because if they got together, it'd have.
Speaker 2: Been that would have been the craziest ship, the cover
Speaker 2: of the guy. They could have done that and it
Speaker 2: could have been a powerhouse.
Speaker 3: It would have been.
Speaker 2: It had been a problem, but it happens. It happens. Yeah,
Speaker 2: you like that.
Speaker 4: God Gumble was serious, man, Yeah, yeah, yeah, damn man,
Speaker 4: Hey man, you're really one of those guys.
Speaker 3: Man.
Speaker 4: I really wanted to We all wanted to give you
Speaker 4: everybody from Drink Champs. You know what I mean, I
Speaker 4: want to give your flowers, man, because.
Speaker 5: From day one, From day one, it's underestimated that how
Speaker 5: much we were trying to get you. From the first
Speaker 5: year we started Drink Champs. Well we got rumors that
Speaker 5: you said, no, I don't really don't want to do
Speaker 5: Drink Champs.
Speaker 2: But I didn't want to do no podcast because it
Speaker 2: was like.
Speaker 3: It just be too much talking. God's like, yo, you
Speaker 3: know you got some people that like to be in
Speaker 3: the front and and and they lot of fame, right.
Speaker 2: I really didn't beat for the fame. I want the money, right,
Speaker 2: I do right.
Speaker 3: And my thing, my thing is my thing is it's
Speaker 3: just like someone can get a lot of notoriety by
Speaker 3: being out there. I've learned from the old school, like rodding.
Speaker 3: They was more laid back, and it bought more mistique. Yeah,
Speaker 3: kind of that mistake is over though, it is over. No, no, no, no,
Speaker 3: don't don't. It's not complete. I can't jump out the window.
Speaker 3: I don't know what he's talking about. I can't jump
Speaker 3: out the window. But it's over.
Speaker 2: He's right. It's like a lot of shit is over
Speaker 2: in the streets. This is over. But you you don't
Speaker 2: have to be all the way out there. It doesn't
Speaker 2: it doesn't have to be Oh no, I remember, not
Speaker 2: gonna do that. I don't know.
Speaker 3: But what I'm what I'm saying is in this new generation,
Speaker 3: like you are absolutely right, like we're not heard of,
Speaker 3: n w A.
Speaker 2: I didn't know what Compton was. I didn't even kind
Speaker 2: of when I heard the shot in like, I didn't
Speaker 2: know cha. Now it took me.
Speaker 5: Yeah, but that's because the information didn't travel that fast
Speaker 5: no Internet.
Speaker 2: No, but I would say that, don't don't get in twisted.
Speaker 5: I think that especially for the older generation, still does
Speaker 5: it's still being creative.
Speaker 2: You can't try to compete with the young guys that are.
Speaker 5: On social media twenty four to seven, because that's.
Speaker 2: Not your lane and your fans. Now you understanding your fight,
Speaker 2: Your fans are still there. They still there.
Speaker 5: They just didn't you wasn't putting something now or they
Speaker 5: couldn't didn't know where to find you. Now you're finding
Speaker 5: your fans again, and they want you to be you.
Speaker 5: They don't want you to be this young guy. They
Speaker 5: want you to be you, and they and they respect
Speaker 5: you for being you.
Speaker 2: And if you jump out the window and do some
Speaker 2: other ship you might lose even that.
Speaker 3: Fuck yourself up.
Speaker 4: Right, But I mean to me again, being the outside
Speaker 4: looking in, I never felt like you stepped outside of
Speaker 4: your zone.
Speaker 2: No, no, I didn't, that's what he said.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, hasnt been the opportunity whe people approach you
Speaker 4: to step outside his own.
Speaker 3: I don't know what that man.
Speaker 5: But like through reality or some shit, yeah, fast love it.
Speaker 5: I could not see you on reality.
Speaker 2: I can't.
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, it's not.
Speaker 2: Like fret love head. Yeah, exfinitely I can't do it.
Speaker 2: So that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: So that's why I fall back more because I say
Speaker 3: the lot like when I sit back watching it, like
Speaker 3: watching the stair because I be I see the besrip
Speaker 3: like it's going on.
Speaker 2: You know, we can play that back in the days.
Speaker 3: It's just gonna happen.
Speaker 5: And how far away from the music is that it's
Speaker 5: over here? Ain't about music and now the culture and
Speaker 5: the music and this is what's going on here.
Speaker 3: Right So now that's why I was like, okay, like
Speaker 3: he said, I can't that that it is over to
Speaker 3: an extent. So I'm here, you know, I gotta I
Speaker 3: gotta make my presence spell to an extent. I'm not
Speaker 3: never jumping out the window. That's never happened, right right,
Speaker 3: and we respect that seeks the lewis for us.
Speaker 10: Oh g.
Speaker 3: O G man, hey man, your class sack brother, thank
Speaker 3: you man once again, an old man. I appreciate you
Speaker 3: having me on this platform because because you know, like
Speaker 3: you said, the world don't know.
Speaker 2: You always over the door for me.
Speaker 3: And I was like, no, now now, so you can
Speaker 3: be like you know what not now keep the mother
Speaker 3: fucking clothes now you no, no, no, you can.
Speaker 2: You know he can. He's a good man now. But
Speaker 2: you know it's some left back, you know, y'all. I
Speaker 2: appreciate the transition.
Speaker 3: Let me just tell you that you are a pillar
Speaker 3: in this community. You are a legend, you are icon,
Speaker 3: you are one of the people, the reason why all
Speaker 3: of us is here. But everyone is excited here, people
Speaker 3: who don't come to drink champs. When I said that,
Speaker 3: we had as everyone is saying, Yo, man, let's go
Speaker 3: give him his flowers the correct way, wrop a way,
Speaker 3: the right way, because.
Speaker 2: You deserve it. You deserve thank y'all, Thank y'all.
Speaker 5: When you get mad at us and they would be
Speaker 5: like you're we would say, nah, it's an open door
Speaker 5: for him. Whenever Asy is ready, like we got to respect, like,
Speaker 5: whenever he's ready to come on from here.
Speaker 3: Man, I'm glad I made it. Man, Yes, yes, beautiful thing.
Speaker 3: So let's talk about oh on how you living? Oh
Speaker 3: l AS classic. I still performed that to this day.
Speaker 3: It's crazy secret we put that on. It's crazy yeah,
Speaker 3: that's that was the l S classic. That was on
Speaker 3: the Piece of a Man album. That was us just
Speaker 3: on our ship.
Speaker 2: We was it our bag at that time.
Speaker 19: We could only play that in certain certain cities and
Speaker 19: ship like when we performed every city, no right, like
Speaker 19: certain joints we could play that like might like game.
Speaker 2: Foul a't like nothing, it's something.
Speaker 3: Listen, man joy everybody enjoyed theself.
Speaker 13: Okay, No, it's just certain certain certain cities, like when
Speaker 13: we was in Richmond, Virginia, you know what I mean,
Speaker 13: Like certain cities that follow the mixtapes.
Speaker 2: That was a mixtape joint.
Speaker 5: You feel that the states from all receptive or overseas
Speaker 5: to to those joints, both.
Speaker 13: Both when they come to that both but for certain
Speaker 13: songs though, like how you living? We we we know
Speaker 13: when to pull that out, Like we know when to
Speaker 13: pull that joint out, you know, on the set, put
Speaker 13: it on the set.
Speaker 5: How do you know by the by the aesthetic of
Speaker 5: the crowd or what's being.
Speaker 13: Yeah, as soon as I walk in, and I know,
Speaker 13: like because I come out before him, So I.
Speaker 2: Really know by looking at you play for him? No,
Speaker 2: I mean I play a little set right before he
Speaker 2: comes home.
Speaker 13: Absolutely, So what do you do you like? I do
Speaker 13: a little quick mix, like just to fill out play.
Speaker 13: I actually played t O N why like damn you
Speaker 13: should a little two two three bars go into I
Speaker 13: four and nine broken language, Lucini.
Speaker 2: Matter what you're doing man, A little broke.
Speaker 13: Do that.
Speaker 2: Go into my right come out.
Speaker 10: And just.
Speaker 2: If there's anything you.
Speaker 3: Could do over nothing, nothing, Every lesson is a blessing.
Speaker 2: I appreciate it. Man.
Speaker 3: I'm in a good space man, and it's really a
Speaker 3: mental space and just I'm in a good space.
Speaker 2: Man.
Speaker 3: I understand it all. I see it for what it's worth,
Speaker 3: the good, bad and ugly. Like I get it. I
Speaker 3: get it, you know what I mean? And I know
Speaker 3: how to move and it's and it's you know, it's
Speaker 3: just a great thing. I just want to I can
Speaker 3: I bottle it and sell it because you gotta have
Speaker 3: a maneuver. You gotta move maneuver a certain way, man,
Speaker 3: and you gotta know when when when when the how
Speaker 3: they say hold them, when to fold them. Gotta know it.
Speaker 2: You gotta feel it, not just a thought. It's it
Speaker 2: feels like a vibe. You get it, you know what
Speaker 2: I mean.
Speaker 3: Like that vibe saved my life a lot of times.
Speaker 3: There's so many ways, like even a vibe on me
Speaker 3: when it gave my first contract and like yo, heavy,
Speaker 3: it was time to give you this money.
Speaker 2: I'm like, wait what it says one hundreds in publishing.
Speaker 3: No, No, I'm not doing that. It's a vibe.
Speaker 2: I don't know what publishing. I was just being asked
Speaker 2: sole you just didn't like one hundred percent of anything.
Speaker 3: I don't know I'm publishing. It's a vibe, right, So
Speaker 3: it's what's.
Speaker 2: A bottle reading the drink Champs contract earlier. It took
Speaker 2: like five ten minutes for that ship. I'm like, I'm
Speaker 2: your brother, You're good, gotcha?
Speaker 3: Yeah, nonred percent.
Speaker 2: Motherfucking this is perportuity that you always know me. Perportunity
Speaker 2: that means life, life time.
Speaker 3: You never.
Speaker 2: You still make money off the motherfucker. That's a lot
Speaker 2: of questions if we asked, oh geez, it's all the
Speaker 2: masters back.
Speaker 3: Not even cent of my master. I'm in the box
Speaker 3: of main for the last two. I get them loves
Speaker 3: in the and then people be like, what you want
Speaker 3: your masters for?
Speaker 5: Right?
Speaker 3: Just makes sense when your licensing and me doing it,
Speaker 3: you know what I mean? When it's just ownership is everything,
Speaker 3: you know, it's everything with technology and things changing.
Speaker 2: You want to own it.
Speaker 3: So yeah, I'm on the last two.
Speaker 2: That's two more to go, two more to go, and everything.
Speaker 2: Give it to the kids.
Speaker 3: Given to the kids. They don't They're gonna suck it
Speaker 3: up anywhere we leave it to the kids. Fuck yeah, kid,
Speaker 3: you don't.
Speaker 2: That's the point. They're they're gonna suck it up. That's
Speaker 2: that's a luxury, right Yeah, yeah, yeah, Man, this is
Speaker 2: been so fucking fucking fantastic. Man, do what Man? How
Speaker 2: did did we speak about? How did y'all? Yeah? You
Speaker 2: just called me one day, like twenty twelve, you just
Speaker 2: called me. He was like, are you ready?
Speaker 13: Because I know him since ninety five and ninety five,
Speaker 13: I know drunk. He called me, called me, he called
Speaker 13: me d O.
Speaker 2: Was a connection, d O Damien. He's a connection.
Speaker 5: But yeah, that's not underestimate how legendary Duop is. The era,
Speaker 5: the era of mixtape DJs that comes from him and
Speaker 5: his his caliber of of mixtape DJ and just DJ
Speaker 5: in general. Like the era the mixtape DJ was controlling
Speaker 5: everything because commercial radio at least across the nation wasn't
Speaker 5: doing it. Like all the labels had to adhere to
Speaker 5: the mixtape DJs and they were given him and me.
Speaker 2: I was in Miami doing it, but he was. He
Speaker 2: was the one I was looking up to.
Speaker 5: They were giving us unprecedented access to artists, to music
Speaker 5: because they needed us.
Speaker 2: That was the first bootleggers. No, man, I don't think.
Speaker 2: I was like, you know what, but you know what
Speaker 2: they're like, like, I'm gonna give you an example.
Speaker 13: The album Charis worked for Sony right right, Columbia whatever.
Speaker 2: It was, no hold on, hold on. She would call me.
Speaker 13: She called me one day and was like, I'm gonna
Speaker 13: give you Street Dreams NASR.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna give Flex rule the world because that's the
Speaker 2: that's what they were doing. They were doing that ship something.
Speaker 2: They're the ones doing the bootlegging. I didn't rely I
Speaker 2: didn't rely on that on that. I'm gonna tell you
Speaker 2: you know.
Speaker 5: This is why I have offense to the bootlegging team,
Speaker 5: because mixtapes is a huge part of the culture, absolutely,
Speaker 5: and this is the part where where we're getting all
Speaker 5: of us by the industry, the mainstream industry, they don't
Speaker 5: give a funk about hip hop.
Speaker 2: Those A and rs and those.
Speaker 5: Marketing come those marketing executives were like, we need these
Speaker 5: mixtape guys.
Speaker 2: We're gonna give them these exclusives, these leaks. We're gonna lead.
Speaker 5: Them, and then they would leak the records to us,
Speaker 5: and then we would get ceased and desist and get
Speaker 5: sued lawyers trying to funk us up. Same mother label
Speaker 5: man out of here with that ship. You know what,
Speaker 5: I'm sorry you got those seasons. This is too absolutely
Speaker 5: I know you did.
Speaker 2: But that's why I kind of didn't rely on exclusives.
Speaker 2: I did that. I had rappers coming to the studio
Speaker 2: to do like exclusives for me, and we had all
Speaker 2: well the only thing is we were doing it over
Speaker 2: other people's beats, so that yeah, but that was later
Speaker 2: on that.
Speaker 3: But is this form of true that as from paid
Speaker 3: and for whatever sues you or tried to sue you.
Speaker 3: He probably did, I don't know. It wasn't me, but
Speaker 3: probably record label. I don't know. I'm sure if he did,
Speaker 3: an't get much.
Speaker 2: I don't know. You're gonna be honest, but he said
Speaker 2: that of it.
Speaker 3: He tried, He tried.
Speaker 2: They don't have no relationship relationship. I mean he spoke about, Yeah,
Speaker 2: I'm seeing them. We dialogue. I mean, sue me.
Speaker 3: Your mom. I'm sure whatever you got good Man for.
Speaker 3: I mean, you know, it's it's a system, you know
Speaker 3: what I mean. If you found the loophole and it
Speaker 3: enjoy But as I said before, I would never you
Speaker 3: said and you said earlier, like you said that that
Speaker 3: name wasn't come. It don't even make sense. But if
Speaker 3: it's loophole and you see loophole, I can fall in
Speaker 3: here like oh I'm yeah a loophole.
Speaker 2: I ain't hurt myself loophole. But it was cool.
Speaker 3: I mean it's oh ship, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: It's like suing the insurance company.
Speaker 3: Soe me, you're gonna smoke nothing.
Speaker 2: You don't even I don't even dream like that, but drink.
Speaker 2: So you got sam.
Speaker 5: M hm.
Speaker 2: He's a class act. Man, Thank you, man, thank you
Speaker 2: for having me.
Speaker 16: Man.
Speaker 3: I appreciate it.
Speaker 2: Nah, man, you you deserve everything. Man, Yes, we still
Speaker 2: got two hours.
Speaker 3: I want to eat.
Speaker 13: I'm going, I'm going I'll be watching this on YouTube.
Speaker 13: It should be like three hours and thirty four minutes.
Speaker 3: Entertaining a half entertainment.
Speaker 2: He's like, half good, let's go. No, man's good work.
Speaker 2: I understand. We did a good run.
Speaker 6: Listen.
Speaker 2: Please want to give you a flowers.
Speaker 3: And I appreciate it.
Speaker 5: Man. Thanks.
Speaker 2: Well, I'm out the albums out right. You said, what
Speaker 2: album out?
Speaker 3: Album out now December first, But either way album out,
Speaker 3: truth be told, but wild shout out hip hop.
Speaker 2: That is finest.
Speaker 3: I feel great, man, I'm in the dug we hit
Speaker 3: the album. I'm in my best shape ever. Oh man,
Speaker 3: so good man.
Speaker 2: So what's next after this? You can tour the album?
Speaker 2: Hopefully I tour.
Speaker 3: If not, I'll work on another album, movie. I'm just
Speaker 3: trying to do everything.
Speaker 11: Man.
Speaker 2: I should go visit that haunted mansion, y'all was.
Speaker 18: Right?
Speaker 2: Yeah, and doing reality show We're us. Can we talk
Speaker 2: about the Flyers yet? Flies Gangs? We talked about that
Speaker 2: that was out there. Let's talk about that.
Speaker 3: That was on Still Matter, correct, that's when it that's
Speaker 3: when when when Esco was going through what he was
Speaker 3: going through. But it was it was a good look
Speaker 3: because we always we always made classics. And that's that.
Speaker 3: I performed that at the shows. That's that's a that's
Speaker 3: a good song, and that's all the shows.
Speaker 2: That's a big joint.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's one of them classes right there, Man, Flies Gangsters,
Speaker 3: How did that happen?
Speaker 2: Where's your studio?
Speaker 3: Where? What's that? I don't know if that was a
Speaker 3: hit factory or had to be the hit again or
Speaker 3: Sony had a studio Sony Street, Yeah, that's where it was.
Speaker 3: Sony and once again, that's l E s again L
Speaker 3: had classics. We were there in the studio like at
Speaker 3: that time. You know it's a time like you said analog.
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, so I'm this is the last question. God
Speaker 2: come down, but I haven't.
Speaker 3: But he says, A you got one chance to save
Speaker 3: your life, make one record. Who's the producer you're picking
Speaker 3: to make that one record? Save you your life?
Speaker 2: Everyone?
Speaker 4: The one producer you saving your life to save the
Speaker 4: life of humanity. Do you want to take a shot?
Speaker 4: You wanted to take a shot.
Speaker 2: A little.
Speaker 3: I got a shot.
Speaker 2: Let's take a shot. Who would I do one record
Speaker 2: to save humanity?
Speaker 3: The producer?
Speaker 10: Yes? And you.
Speaker 3: Berry Gordy man Berry, Gordy Jones bad? Either one of them?
Speaker 3: Wrist bad.
Speaker 2: Look here's the hip hop see. Thank you so much.
Speaker 3: The man, I use the bathroom to hold on, don't
Speaker 3: finish this and then we're gonna use the bathrooms.
Speaker 2: Then we're gonna part ways. Yes, do wop a Z.
Speaker 2: Thank you brothers both coming here being exactly who you
Speaker 2: guys are.
Speaker 4: Guys are legends, absolutely righticons. We wanted to salute that man.
Speaker 2: Thank you so much.
Speaker 5: Man. You show that to toy when you come back
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