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Speaker 2: Let's start on a college football side, buck the playoffs?

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Speaker 2: The four teams? Are you outraged? Some are outraged? How

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Speaker 3: Man? Like, I feel like I'm gonna tag this in

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Speaker 2: You remember the show eight is enough. He's like, yeah,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, nicely done. I will say at right as you

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Speaker 2: So this game was absolutely bunkers.

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Speaker 2: in an organization, but an entire fan base to have

433
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Speaker 2: to punt on a season when one guy gets hurt.

434
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Speaker 2: And I know it's most important position in sports, but

435
00:20:01,720 --> 00:20:06,159
Speaker 2: man sacrifice the sacrifice, the backup interior lineman. Take that

436
00:20:06,200 --> 00:20:08,800
Speaker 2: budget money and dump it on trying to invest in

437
00:20:08,840 --> 00:20:10,840
Speaker 2: somebody like a Gardner Minshew who it might be a

438
00:20:10,920 --> 00:20:12,760
Speaker 2: roller coaster ride if Buck was kind of alluding to.

439
00:20:13,000 --> 00:20:14,680
Speaker 2: But he gives you a chance at least at least

440
00:20:14,720 --> 00:20:16,800
Speaker 2: there's a reason to turn the game on and know, like, hey,

441
00:20:16,840 --> 00:20:19,720
Speaker 2: we might have a chance today. And so to me,

442
00:20:19,800 --> 00:20:22,200
Speaker 2: I think that SATs off to Chris Ballard for making

443
00:20:22,200 --> 00:20:25,040
Speaker 2: that investment. And unfortunately Anthon Richemon got hurt early. He

444
00:20:25,080 --> 00:20:27,400
Speaker 2: needed he needed to catch in that insurance policy.

445
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Speaker 3: Uh.

446
00:20:28,600 --> 00:20:30,280
Speaker 2: But not only has he kept them in games like

447
00:20:30,320 --> 00:20:32,840
Speaker 2: there you got a legit shot to make the postseason.

448
00:20:32,960 --> 00:20:35,440
Speaker 2: And that's a that's a that's a credit to them.

449
00:20:35,520 --> 00:20:36,919
Speaker 2: All Right, we're gonna take a quick break. When we

450
00:20:36,920 --> 00:20:39,720
Speaker 2: come back, we'll get into what was the most anticipated game,

451
00:20:39,760 --> 00:20:43,280
Speaker 2: if not the week, maybe the entire season here. Uh,

452
00:20:43,359 --> 00:20:45,800
Speaker 2: that is the Eagles and the Niners will get to

453
00:20:45,800 --> 00:20:52,600
Speaker 2: that rider for this. All right, guys, let's jump back

454
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Speaker 2: in here. Niners absolutely hammer the Eagles. I mean just

455
00:20:58,400 --> 00:21:01,359
Speaker 2: a butt kicking. And I I talked about it in

456
00:21:01,400 --> 00:21:03,120
Speaker 2: the run of this game that I told you these

457
00:21:03,119 --> 00:21:05,200
Speaker 2: teams do not like each other. This is the best

458
00:21:05,280 --> 00:21:07,960
Speaker 2: rivalry in the NFL that nobody realizes how much this

459
00:21:09,040 --> 00:21:11,480
Speaker 2: exists in terms of disdain. And I think after the game,

460
00:21:11,520 --> 00:21:13,399
Speaker 2: I think people believe me. I think they might believe

461
00:21:13,440 --> 00:21:15,879
Speaker 2: me that there's not a lot of love lost between

462
00:21:15,920 --> 00:21:18,239
Speaker 2: these two teams. But the Niners, man, they talked all

463
00:21:18,280 --> 00:21:21,320
Speaker 2: that noise after the season was over, like, hey, if

464
00:21:21,359 --> 00:21:23,440
Speaker 2: rock Purdy had stayed healthy, well they got a little

465
00:21:23,440 --> 00:21:26,080
Speaker 2: something to crow about, because Rock Purdy was healthy in

466
00:21:26,080 --> 00:21:29,280
Speaker 2: this game, and they carved him up like a Thanksgiving turkey.

467
00:21:29,320 --> 00:21:31,440
Speaker 2: I went back and watched this morning because I didn't

468
00:21:31,520 --> 00:21:33,560
Speaker 2: to see this game on TV at all, So it

469
00:21:33,600 --> 00:21:36,000
Speaker 2: was like I saw the score, I'm like, okay, what happened?

470
00:21:36,320 --> 00:21:40,159
Speaker 2: So I put on San fran offense and guys the

471
00:21:40,160 --> 00:21:43,000
Speaker 2: first quarter. The first quarter though, I'm like, they didn't

472
00:21:43,040 --> 00:21:45,359
Speaker 2: do anything. I'm like, wait, how did the heck did

473
00:21:45,400 --> 00:21:48,000
Speaker 2: they think of defensive touchdowns, like how did this get

474
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Speaker 2: out of hand? And then all of a sudden the

475
00:21:50,280 --> 00:21:54,000
Speaker 2: second quarter started, and it was the key play, by

476
00:21:54,000 --> 00:21:55,480
Speaker 2: the way, the key play. And I don't know what

477
00:21:55,520 --> 00:21:57,679
Speaker 2: people have been saying on TV about this game, but

478
00:21:57,760 --> 00:22:00,720
Speaker 2: going through and watching it, I'm like, okay, that they

479
00:22:00,720 --> 00:22:03,639
Speaker 2: get down. I think they're up. It's maybe six nothing,

480
00:22:04,560 --> 00:22:07,880
Speaker 2: and then san Fran drives, they get a third down

481
00:22:08,200 --> 00:22:11,000
Speaker 2: at like the you know six or whatever, a third

482
00:22:11,000 --> 00:22:14,040
Speaker 2: and goal with the six, and the Eagles get a

483
00:22:14,119 --> 00:22:15,760
Speaker 2: stop and I'm like, okay, so it's going to be

484
00:22:15,800 --> 00:22:18,560
Speaker 2: six to three. Eagles still kind of in control. They're

485
00:22:18,600 --> 00:22:21,520
Speaker 2: off sides half the distance to the goal. That I

486
00:22:21,560 --> 00:22:23,520
Speaker 2: don't know if people have been talking about that in

487
00:22:23,600 --> 00:22:26,240
Speaker 2: this game. That was huge. The next play they get

488
00:22:26,240 --> 00:22:28,119
Speaker 2: the touchdown back of the end zone to Ayuk and

489
00:22:28,160 --> 00:22:31,840
Speaker 2: then they never looked back that that little penalty, which

490
00:22:31,840 --> 00:22:33,639
Speaker 2: you would think is a two yard penalty right half

491
00:22:33,680 --> 00:22:36,439
Speaker 2: the disn't to the goal from where they were changed it.

492
00:22:36,640 --> 00:22:38,280
Speaker 2: They kind of changed the game around. They get the

493
00:22:38,359 --> 00:22:40,600
Speaker 2: lead and then, as we've said, once they get the lead,

494
00:22:41,520 --> 00:22:43,600
Speaker 2: oh my gosh, buck you talk about putting the linebackers

495
00:22:43,600 --> 00:22:46,080
Speaker 2: in a blender when you go watch that tape from

496
00:22:46,160 --> 00:22:49,120
Speaker 2: quarters two through four, they didn't they couldn't be right.

497
00:22:49,200 --> 00:22:52,399
Speaker 2: Wherever they guessed, they were wrong. They were getting downhill

498
00:22:52,720 --> 00:22:54,920
Speaker 2: coming behind them, they'd get widened out and then they're

499
00:22:54,920 --> 00:22:58,080
Speaker 2: crossing their face. Then you get McCaffrey who's hitting stutter

500
00:22:58,200 --> 00:23:02,040
Speaker 2: gos like in a slot. This is this was like,

501
00:23:02,320 --> 00:23:05,199
Speaker 2: this was like watching Kyle Shanahan and Brock Purty like

502
00:23:05,359 --> 00:23:07,119
Speaker 2: just like a little little just playing a little like

503
00:23:07,160 --> 00:23:09,240
Speaker 2: watching a cat just trying to like swing the ball.

504
00:23:09,359 --> 00:23:11,639
Speaker 2: Like it was like, it was unbelievable the way they

505
00:23:11,640 --> 00:23:15,400
Speaker 2: told them. And Brock party for you know, any questions

506
00:23:15,400 --> 00:23:19,520
Speaker 2: about him at all, he is perfect for this offense.

507
00:23:19,560 --> 00:23:22,680
Speaker 2: He is perfect and he's he was able to see

508
00:23:22,720 --> 00:23:26,160
Speaker 2: the field throw the ball accurately. And again it was surgery.

509
00:23:26,240 --> 00:23:27,760
Speaker 2: It was surgical what they did.

510
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Speaker 3: Yeah, it was unbelievable to watch. Right. So this game

511
00:23:30,640 --> 00:23:32,960
Speaker 3: the way it started, the Field of Eagles played the game,

512
00:23:33,000 --> 00:23:35,200
Speaker 3: in my mind, the right way. At the beginning, they

513
00:23:35,200 --> 00:23:39,040
Speaker 3: had two twelve play drives. The issue with that is

514
00:23:39,280 --> 00:23:42,000
Speaker 3: they only got a stickpoint. Yeah, and so they drove

515
00:23:42,040 --> 00:23:43,960
Speaker 3: the ball to lift the field. They played keep away.

516
00:23:44,320 --> 00:23:47,719
Speaker 3: They understand. I think they understand that their defense is

517
00:23:47,720 --> 00:23:50,880
Speaker 3: not necessarily an elite defense that shuts you out. It's

518
00:23:50,920 --> 00:23:54,480
Speaker 3: an elite complimentary defense, meaning they control it. On offense,

519
00:23:54,520 --> 00:23:57,840
Speaker 3: they get the lead, then they rushed the pass because

520
00:23:57,880 --> 00:24:01,080
Speaker 3: they didn't get those seven. The Niners were able to

521
00:24:01,119 --> 00:24:03,359
Speaker 3: stay in character. They never had to get out of

522
00:24:03,400 --> 00:24:05,840
Speaker 3: character become a drop back team. And the one thing

523
00:24:05,920 --> 00:24:08,119
Speaker 3: that I will say about the Niners in Shanahan in

524
00:24:08,200 --> 00:24:10,600
Speaker 3: the run game and the creativity, he did a great

525
00:24:10,640 --> 00:24:14,280
Speaker 3: job of keeping everybody in the mix. But DJ, I've

526
00:24:14,320 --> 00:24:17,119
Speaker 3: never seen an NFL team run in the rounds or

527
00:24:17,119 --> 00:24:20,840
Speaker 3: reverses like their regular plays. It is almost like watching

528
00:24:20,880 --> 00:24:24,280
Speaker 3: a Pop Warner team run the reverse and I'm like,

529
00:24:24,359 --> 00:24:26,800
Speaker 3: man like, they just run this like a twenty eight

530
00:24:26,840 --> 00:24:27,399
Speaker 3: tall suits.

531
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Speaker 2: So they did. They did one thing on there, and

532
00:24:30,960 --> 00:24:33,120
Speaker 2: I want to and maybe you jump in us two red,

533
00:24:33,160 --> 00:24:36,560
Speaker 2: but buck the You know mirrored screens, right, we see that.

534
00:24:36,760 --> 00:24:38,360
Speaker 2: You see it in high school football all the way

535
00:24:38,400 --> 00:24:40,080
Speaker 2: college in the NFL. Where you've got a screen go

536
00:24:40,080 --> 00:24:42,119
Speaker 2: onto both sides. It might be a back to the left,

537
00:24:42,119 --> 00:24:43,880
Speaker 2: it might be a wide receiver screen to the right,

538
00:24:43,920 --> 00:24:45,840
Speaker 2: and they'll split the line right so you have the

539
00:24:45,920 --> 00:24:47,600
Speaker 2: right tackle on the right guard are going to go

540
00:24:47,640 --> 00:24:49,520
Speaker 2: out there on this side, and you'll get the three

541
00:24:49,560 --> 00:24:51,400
Speaker 2: on the left and go out this way. They run

542
00:24:51,440 --> 00:24:55,040
Speaker 2: the mirroage screen, but all five linemen are going to

543
00:24:55,119 --> 00:24:57,200
Speaker 2: the back. The one that I think that was, or

544
00:24:57,359 --> 00:25:00,240
Speaker 2: was the Debo touchdown, I think was the d both

545
00:25:00,240 --> 00:25:02,960
Speaker 2: touchdown like little top screen or whatever. All five linemen,

546
00:25:03,040 --> 00:25:05,760
Speaker 2: I mean, they are on a dead sprint to the left,

547
00:25:05,960 --> 00:25:08,160
Speaker 2: but they're still showing screen to the right, so they're

548
00:25:08,200 --> 00:25:11,639
Speaker 2: able to hold just enough defenders. And it's you've got

549
00:25:11,640 --> 00:25:13,399
Speaker 2: a math problem at that point in time, because they

550
00:25:13,480 --> 00:25:16,720
Speaker 2: got freaking they got a receiver and now you've got

551
00:25:16,720 --> 00:25:19,119
Speaker 2: five alignment on a dead sprint. It was the darnest

552
00:25:19,119 --> 00:25:19,800
Speaker 2: thing I've ever seen.

553
00:25:22,240 --> 00:25:25,159
Speaker 3: They just they're remarkable. I don't know if there's a

554
00:25:25,200 --> 00:25:29,119
Speaker 3: better team where the personnel matches how they want to play.

555
00:25:29,400 --> 00:25:31,720
Speaker 3: I mean, we could make the argument maybe Miami, but

556
00:25:31,840 --> 00:25:35,280
Speaker 3: in terms of schematics and personnel, I don't know if

557
00:25:35,280 --> 00:25:37,080
Speaker 3: there's a better blend than what they have. And cal

558
00:25:37,160 --> 00:25:39,359
Speaker 3: Shanahan has exactly what he wants. He knows how to

559
00:25:39,440 --> 00:25:42,040
Speaker 3: utilize the personnel. And we can all talk about Rock

560
00:25:42,119 --> 00:25:44,840
Speaker 3: Berdy and a He's mister irrelevant and all that. In

561
00:25:44,880 --> 00:25:48,200
Speaker 3: that system, that dude is an elite quarterback. I don't

562
00:25:48,200 --> 00:25:50,000
Speaker 3: know what it looks like elsewhere. It doesn't matter what

563
00:25:50,040 --> 00:25:52,399
Speaker 3: it looks like. I know for the Niners he is

564
00:25:52,440 --> 00:25:54,720
Speaker 3: an a one quarterback and teams are going to have

565
00:25:54,760 --> 00:25:57,000
Speaker 3: a tough time knocking off nine as long as he's there.

566
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Speaker 1: To your point on that, talking about I think the debo,

567
00:26:01,320 --> 00:26:05,920
Speaker 1: the first debo forty eight yard Ohky, and the third

568
00:26:06,200 --> 00:26:08,760
Speaker 1: that to me was the dagger like you had just

569
00:26:08,840 --> 00:26:11,399
Speaker 1: had all the hubbub with the security guy and with

570
00:26:11,520 --> 00:26:14,399
Speaker 1: dream green Law. They both get ejected. The Eagles go

571
00:26:14,480 --> 00:26:16,720
Speaker 1: down and Jalen Hurts scores on the one yard on

572
00:26:16,760 --> 00:26:19,320
Speaker 1: the on the push right, and then you come back

573
00:26:19,640 --> 00:26:22,160
Speaker 1: and the very next possession for the forty nine ers

574
00:26:22,520 --> 00:26:25,119
Speaker 1: debo shows you that physicality that would make him a

575
00:26:25,160 --> 00:26:27,399
Speaker 1: thousand yard running back, and then the speed and the

576
00:26:27,440 --> 00:26:31,520
Speaker 1: separation that makes him a thousand yard receiver. That his

577
00:26:31,960 --> 00:26:35,199
Speaker 1: skill set is still to me unlike any that we

578
00:26:35,280 --> 00:26:38,879
Speaker 1: see from a full time wide receiver in football. The

579
00:26:38,920 --> 00:26:41,800
Speaker 1: other thing that Bucky had challenged you and your broadcast

580
00:26:41,800 --> 00:26:45,480
Speaker 1: partners to get into tonight the radio brought and I

581
00:26:45,560 --> 00:26:46,480
Speaker 1: heard this for the first time.

582
00:26:46,520 --> 00:26:47,760
Speaker 2: I don't know if they do it every time or.

583
00:26:47,760 --> 00:26:50,040
Speaker 1: Not, but I was on my drive home the radio

584
00:26:50,160 --> 00:26:54,600
Speaker 1: broadcasting for the Niners when Brandon ayuk score they both

585
00:26:54,720 --> 00:26:59,640
Speaker 1: in unison go a yuk aiyuk i yu kizo.

586
00:27:00,359 --> 00:27:04,679
Speaker 2: I was like, oh, little cheesy, but uh, you know what, that's.

587
00:27:04,520 --> 00:27:07,679
Speaker 1: Why we love local radio, man, because I'm sure that

588
00:27:07,760 --> 00:27:09,760
Speaker 1: forty nine Ers fans really got into it.

589
00:27:09,880 --> 00:27:12,879
Speaker 2: And so there you go. I challenge you to do something.

590
00:27:13,680 --> 00:27:16,560
Speaker 3: I read I would officially let my fan boy come

591
00:27:16,560 --> 00:27:20,040
Speaker 3: out somehow tonight if I don't get together with with

592
00:27:20,240 --> 00:27:23,960
Speaker 3: Jeff Loghman and Tony Boselli, Yeah, and see if we

593
00:27:24,000 --> 00:27:26,600
Speaker 3: can get together and pick a player, whether that's Trevor

594
00:27:26,880 --> 00:27:29,280
Speaker 3: or somebody else to really get behind. And yeah, they

595
00:27:29,440 --> 00:27:32,159
Speaker 3: have a unified course on that so that when that

596
00:27:32,240 --> 00:27:35,760
Speaker 3: broadcast call goes live in national everyone can Yeah, the

597
00:27:36,119 --> 00:27:38,200
Speaker 3: exactly what they got to get.

598
00:27:38,240 --> 00:27:41,879
Speaker 2: I think money would appreciate that too. DJ just I

599
00:27:42,000 --> 00:27:44,560
Speaker 2: was by the way, I was all cued up. They

600
00:27:44,600 --> 00:27:46,480
Speaker 2: didn't score touchdown, they didn't need one. They charger and

601
00:27:46,520 --> 00:27:48,080
Speaker 2: only scored six points, but it was enough to win.

602
00:27:48,240 --> 00:27:51,120
Speaker 2: But I'm telling you, it's pouring rain you're ready. It's

603
00:27:51,160 --> 00:27:53,640
Speaker 2: the first It's the first rain game for the Chargers

604
00:27:53,680 --> 00:27:56,399
Speaker 2: since twenty seventeen. Think about that. How crazy is that

605
00:27:56,440 --> 00:27:58,280
Speaker 2: they haven't played in a rain game like where it

606
00:27:58,320 --> 00:28:03,119
Speaker 2: starts the game with six years twenty seventeen. So I'm like, oh,

607
00:28:03,160 --> 00:28:06,160
Speaker 2: I'm already. I'm already because I love just like needling money,

608
00:28:06,160 --> 00:28:07,679
Speaker 2: and I was going to be like, dude, hey, you

609
00:28:07,720 --> 00:28:10,280
Speaker 2: get the long touchdown, you gotta go Herbert like a

610
00:28:10,400 --> 00:28:14,960
Speaker 2: duck in water bam, and then uh never, he didn't

611
00:28:14,960 --> 00:28:17,679
Speaker 2: need it, didn't need a touchdown, So no need for

612
00:28:17,720 --> 00:28:19,920
Speaker 2: that line. But it was cute. Up. I was ready

613
00:28:19,960 --> 00:28:24,359
Speaker 2: to go on that one. But keep us rolling here,

614
00:28:24,880 --> 00:28:27,399
Speaker 2: Rams and browns Ramsom.

615
00:28:27,160 --> 00:28:29,680
Speaker 3: Brown had to tune in to watch the Joe Flacco

616
00:28:29,800 --> 00:28:31,399
Speaker 3: Show see what Joe Flacco was going to look like.

617
00:28:31,400 --> 00:28:33,000
Speaker 3: I want to see if Joe Flacco was going to

618
00:28:33,080 --> 00:28:35,240
Speaker 3: look like me coming off the couch trying to play

619
00:28:35,240 --> 00:28:39,720
Speaker 3: pick up basketball. After my surprise, Joe Flacco looked good

620
00:28:39,760 --> 00:28:43,680
Speaker 3: for about three quarters of the game, Like I was like, man,

621
00:28:43,960 --> 00:28:46,520
Speaker 3: can you be in a quarterback and continue to throw it?

622
00:28:46,640 --> 00:28:46,720
Speaker 2: Like?

623
00:28:46,920 --> 00:28:48,520
Speaker 3: I mean, he was. He was on fire. He was

624
00:28:48,560 --> 00:28:51,040
Speaker 3: dropping dives. He and Elijah Moore had a nice connection.

625
00:28:52,400 --> 00:28:55,440
Speaker 3: They were doing it. But then, like most of us

626
00:28:55,440 --> 00:28:58,640
Speaker 3: as we get older, playing pickup that last game, like

627
00:28:58,680 --> 00:29:02,560
Speaker 3: getting the point see a little tougher, and it was

628
00:29:02,560 --> 00:29:06,000
Speaker 3: a little tougher for Joe to bring it in. That said,

629
00:29:06,000 --> 00:29:08,640
Speaker 3: here's what I'll say about the Rams. Jommy Brady's done

630
00:29:08,640 --> 00:29:11,000
Speaker 3: a really good job with this team. This team is

631
00:29:11,080 --> 00:29:13,720
Speaker 3: very scrappy. It is competitive. They knock off all the

632
00:29:13,760 --> 00:29:16,200
Speaker 3: teams that they are supposed to be. They're really competitive

633
00:29:16,200 --> 00:29:18,080
Speaker 3: against the teams that might be at their level or

634
00:29:18,120 --> 00:29:20,480
Speaker 3: slightly above it. And he has been able to get

635
00:29:20,480 --> 00:29:23,440
Speaker 3: Matthew Stafford in the running game to do just enough.

636
00:29:23,800 --> 00:29:26,880
Speaker 3: My guy Pooka had a seven yard touchdown, but then

637
00:29:26,880 --> 00:29:28,720
Speaker 3: he heard his shoulder. Man, he was on his way

638
00:29:28,760 --> 00:29:30,600
Speaker 3: to a big day. I mean he was on his

639
00:29:30,680 --> 00:29:32,840
Speaker 3: way to really set it up. He had over a

640
00:29:32,880 --> 00:29:35,120
Speaker 3: hundred yards. You can just see it, like all the

641
00:29:35,160 --> 00:29:38,240
Speaker 3: fantasy people are just clamoring for the big day that

642
00:29:38,280 --> 00:29:43,120
Speaker 3: he was at that he tried. Oh my god, yeah

643
00:29:43,160 --> 00:29:45,160
Speaker 3: so but no, it was. It was a really good

644
00:29:45,160 --> 00:29:47,800
Speaker 3: performance for the Rams. I don't know what they can do,

645
00:29:47,880 --> 00:29:51,320
Speaker 3: but I do know they're setting nice building blocks for

646
00:29:51,440 --> 00:29:54,239
Speaker 3: the rebuilding project that will be next year when they

647
00:29:54,280 --> 00:29:56,800
Speaker 3: get some more pieces around all the players that they're

648
00:29:56,800 --> 00:29:57,560
Speaker 3: already have in the fall.

649
00:29:59,240 --> 00:30:02,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, I would agree a go ahead, Red. Yeah.

650
00:30:03,040 --> 00:30:04,760
Speaker 1: I just feel like, again we kind of asked this

651
00:30:04,840 --> 00:30:06,720
Speaker 1: on the video show, like two out of the last

652
00:30:06,720 --> 00:30:08,720
Speaker 1: three weeks, like who do you trust in that wildcard

653
00:30:08,760 --> 00:30:11,240
Speaker 1: race in the NFC, And it's the way that Matthew

654
00:30:11,280 --> 00:30:14,000
Speaker 1: Stafford's playing, the way that that offensive staff that Sean

655
00:30:14,080 --> 00:30:16,240
Speaker 1: McVay has put together is getting the most out of all.

656
00:30:16,280 --> 00:30:19,800
Speaker 2: They're kind of young, and obviously the Vet Cooper cup weapons.

657
00:30:19,800 --> 00:30:23,120
Speaker 1: DeMarcus Robinson comes in four catches fifty five yards in

658
00:30:23,160 --> 00:30:25,560
Speaker 1: a touchdown, although he had the holding call that negated

659
00:30:25,560 --> 00:30:27,000
Speaker 1: a forty five yard run by.

660
00:30:27,000 --> 00:30:28,720
Speaker 2: Puka which would have added to your totals.

661
00:30:29,400 --> 00:30:31,200
Speaker 1: But Michael Floor I think was a big addition for

662
00:30:31,240 --> 00:30:34,000
Speaker 1: the Rams offense too, And just they understand what they

663
00:30:34,040 --> 00:30:36,360
Speaker 1: want to accomplish together, I think, and we talk about

664
00:30:36,400 --> 00:30:38,120
Speaker 1: that with identity and it feels like the Rams know

665
00:30:38,160 --> 00:30:38,760
Speaker 1: what they want to do.

666
00:30:39,480 --> 00:30:41,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think the Rams done a nice job. Now

667
00:30:41,240 --> 00:30:43,960
Speaker 2: we having all these young rookies and you know, young

668
00:30:44,040 --> 00:30:46,280
Speaker 2: players that are playing well, but they've done a nice

669
00:30:46,360 --> 00:30:49,640
Speaker 2: job selectively bringing veterans into each room. You know, have

670
00:30:49,760 --> 00:30:51,880
Speaker 2: one veteran in each position room that can kind of

671
00:30:51,920 --> 00:30:53,760
Speaker 2: guide these young guys as they go forward. I think

672
00:30:53,760 --> 00:30:56,640
Speaker 2: it's very it's very smart how Lessoned's gone about putting

673
00:30:56,640 --> 00:31:00,680
Speaker 2: this roster together. Rhtt You've got alliance and sints. Please

674
00:31:00,800 --> 00:31:02,440
Speaker 2: just go as long as you want on this one.

675
00:31:02,440 --> 00:31:05,520
Speaker 2: I can't wait for all about this. Well, I thought

676
00:31:05,520 --> 00:31:07,160
Speaker 2: it was over in the first five minutes.

677
00:31:07,200 --> 00:31:08,840
Speaker 1: I mean the Lions were up twenty one to nothing,

678
00:31:08,880 --> 00:31:10,360
Speaker 1: and it was like, you know, it was like the

679
00:31:10,440 --> 00:31:11,800
Speaker 1: Jonathan Gannon thing again.

680
00:31:12,280 --> 00:31:14,400
Speaker 2: It was like peo peo peop. I mean, like Jared

681
00:31:14,440 --> 00:31:16,200
Speaker 2: Goff was all over the place.

682
00:31:16,400 --> 00:31:18,960
Speaker 1: Just and then you know, Jamior Gibbs had an explosive

683
00:31:19,040 --> 00:31:20,440
Speaker 1: David Montgomery punches it in.

684
00:31:21,040 --> 00:31:23,600
Speaker 2: You're like, holy smokes. Before the Saints even turn around.

685
00:31:23,640 --> 00:31:27,680
Speaker 1: The Saints had three offensive or four offensive plays in total,

686
00:31:28,120 --> 00:31:31,000
Speaker 1: and the Lions had three offensive touchdowns, so almost as

687
00:31:31,000 --> 00:31:33,920
Speaker 1: many touchdowns as offensive plays at one point in this

688
00:31:33,920 --> 00:31:35,280
Speaker 1: game when they were up twenty one nothing.

689
00:31:35,560 --> 00:31:36,720
Speaker 2: The thing that I went back.

690
00:31:36,560 --> 00:31:39,200
Speaker 1: And looked at, though, where Golf and the Lions really

691
00:31:39,240 --> 00:31:43,880
Speaker 1: found success. All but one of Goff's downfield passes like

692
00:31:43,920 --> 00:31:46,200
Speaker 1: at least just be on the line of scrimmage, were

693
00:31:46,240 --> 00:31:49,240
Speaker 1: in between the numbers. They were focused on hitting in

694
00:31:49,320 --> 00:31:52,000
Speaker 1: breaking routes and on attacking the Saints in the in

695
00:31:52,080 --> 00:31:54,520
Speaker 1: the interior, in the middle of the field.

696
00:31:55,120 --> 00:31:56,000
Speaker 2: And I know they.

697
00:31:55,880 --> 00:31:57,880
Speaker 1: Saw a fair amount of cover one here in this game,

698
00:31:57,880 --> 00:32:00,000
Speaker 1: but I thought Samuel Porta was a matchup night. Now,

699
00:32:00,240 --> 00:32:02,920
Speaker 1: obviously nine catches on ten targets. I think the Saints

700
00:32:03,000 --> 00:32:05,560
Speaker 1: really missed Pete Werner in this Game's got some speed

701
00:32:05,560 --> 00:32:07,480
Speaker 1: at that second level and just didn't feel like they

702
00:32:07,520 --> 00:32:09,880
Speaker 1: had it. I think Laporta got through Zach Vaughn a

703
00:32:09,920 --> 00:32:14,360
Speaker 1: couple of times and just nobody, nobody had the proper

704
00:32:15,240 --> 00:32:17,800
Speaker 1: way to defend Sam Laporta in this game. So I

705
00:32:17,800 --> 00:32:20,200
Speaker 1: thought he has emerged as one of the top tight

706
00:32:20,280 --> 00:32:23,520
Speaker 1: ends in football, not just rookies on and the Lions

707
00:32:23,560 --> 00:32:27,120
Speaker 1: have a real weapon right there. Young team, young young players,

708
00:32:27,160 --> 00:32:28,840
Speaker 1: good vets, really good mix.

709
00:32:29,360 --> 00:32:31,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, I watched the Laporta targets this morning because I

710
00:32:31,760 --> 00:32:33,360
Speaker 2: want to see how I see a huge day, So like,

711
00:32:33,400 --> 00:32:35,280
Speaker 2: what are they doing? It was a mixture. I mean

712
00:32:35,280 --> 00:32:37,520
Speaker 2: they turned him loose a couple of times, where just

713
00:32:37,600 --> 00:32:39,680
Speaker 2: design wise they were able to get him freed up

714
00:32:39,920 --> 00:32:43,680
Speaker 2: for some big chunk plays. But then also Buck, We've

715
00:32:43,680 --> 00:32:46,080
Speaker 2: talked about this a bunch with you know, maybe the

716
00:32:46,160 --> 00:32:49,120
Speaker 2: best innovation this year in the NFL has been that

717
00:32:49,240 --> 00:32:52,360
Speaker 2: Tyreek Hill motion to the to run bigs with that.

718
00:32:52,840 --> 00:32:55,600
Speaker 2: Every everything our whole life has been When you're motioning

719
00:32:55,640 --> 00:32:58,600
Speaker 2: that fast to the outside, everything is going away. You're

720
00:32:58,600 --> 00:33:00,360
Speaker 2: gonna get in the flat, you're gonna run a corner,

721
00:33:00,400 --> 00:33:02,680
Speaker 2: you can maybe push up and running. Now it's that's

722
00:33:02,720 --> 00:33:04,960
Speaker 2: the end cut. That's like the that's like the rout

723
00:33:05,000 --> 00:33:06,719
Speaker 2: of the year that you're seeing teams do that hit

724
00:33:06,760 --> 00:33:08,640
Speaker 2: that on a dead freaking run, and now they're doing

725
00:33:08,640 --> 00:33:10,200
Speaker 2: it actually with tight end and La Florida.

726
00:33:10,720 --> 00:33:13,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, because it goes against everything that you want to

727
00:33:13,800 --> 00:33:16,640
Speaker 3: do as a defender. So you're running outside to the sideline.

728
00:33:16,680 --> 00:33:19,040
Speaker 3: My hips are towards the sideline. Now I got to

729
00:33:19,040 --> 00:33:20,920
Speaker 3: get in the back. I got to flip. And then

730
00:33:20,960 --> 00:33:24,320
Speaker 3: when you cut it on the speed cut going back inside, Man,

731
00:33:24,400 --> 00:33:27,000
Speaker 3: I can't head whip or spin around centerfield road turn

732
00:33:27,280 --> 00:33:29,160
Speaker 3: to stay on top of it. You're putting me at

733
00:33:29,200 --> 00:33:31,000
Speaker 3: a disadvantage. And it's one of the things that you

734
00:33:31,040 --> 00:33:32,800
Speaker 3: want to like, well, why do you take the league

735
00:33:32,800 --> 00:33:37,080
Speaker 3: so longer? And I know in the CFL and the

736
00:33:37,160 --> 00:33:39,240
Speaker 3: Arena ball they've been doing those kinds of things forever,

737
00:33:39,320 --> 00:33:41,280
Speaker 3: but man, it does put you in the back. It

738
00:33:41,440 --> 00:33:45,480
Speaker 3: also it messes up all the rules that defensive backs

739
00:33:45,480 --> 00:33:47,960
Speaker 3: and secondaries have had for years in terms of how

740
00:33:48,000 --> 00:33:50,280
Speaker 3: to play in motion, how you want to banjo or

741
00:33:50,320 --> 00:33:53,840
Speaker 3: switch or whatever. You never had to discuss. Well, we

742
00:33:53,960 --> 00:33:56,080
Speaker 3: start here and it goes out like how we're going

743
00:33:56,120 --> 00:33:58,239
Speaker 3: to play all these things? And so it was the

744
00:33:58,240 --> 00:34:01,800
Speaker 3: first Yeah, I understand one step ahead of the posse.

745
00:34:01,920 --> 00:34:05,120
Speaker 3: And I would say this about the Lions. They're young guys,

746
00:34:05,120 --> 00:34:07,719
Speaker 3: they're explosive playmakers. I saw a report come out they

747
00:34:07,720 --> 00:34:09,640
Speaker 3: were saying that all of a sudden, Jerry Golf now

748
00:34:09,719 --> 00:34:12,880
Speaker 3: has to reprove that he is the guy. Man, if

749
00:34:12,880 --> 00:34:16,000
Speaker 3: you don't like Jerry golf last few years, what he's

750
00:34:16,000 --> 00:34:17,719
Speaker 3: done in Detroit, and you just are never going to

751
00:34:17,840 --> 00:34:19,960
Speaker 3: like him. To me, he is a perfect point guard

752
00:34:20,160 --> 00:34:22,440
Speaker 3: for what this offense is and what it will continue

753
00:34:22,480 --> 00:34:25,640
Speaker 3: to be. No, he's not a guy that can drop

754
00:34:25,719 --> 00:34:28,000
Speaker 3: back fifty times and just do traditional stuff. You've got

755
00:34:28,040 --> 00:34:30,680
Speaker 3: the run game. It helps him, but He's another high

756
00:34:30,760 --> 00:34:33,200
Speaker 3: end quarterback and it's hard to find quarterbacks in this league.

757
00:34:33,280 --> 00:34:34,960
Speaker 3: I think the Detroit lines team to make sure that

758
00:34:34,960 --> 00:34:36,600
Speaker 3: they keep him and keep him in the fall because

759
00:34:36,800 --> 00:34:38,239
Speaker 3: he is going to keep them in the mix for

760
00:34:38,280 --> 00:34:39,319
Speaker 3: the next few years.

761
00:34:40,400 --> 00:34:44,480
Speaker 2: Anything on the other side Saints wise, ruh, I just think.

762
00:34:45,840 --> 00:34:47,759
Speaker 1: You know, Derek Carr, I mean, I've never seen a

763
00:34:47,840 --> 00:34:52,520
Speaker 1: quarterback leave the game with three separate injury designations concussion.

764
00:34:52,000 --> 00:34:53,440
Speaker 2: Protocol, back shoulder.

765
00:34:53,600 --> 00:34:56,359
Speaker 1: I was like, oh boy, I mean this kind of

766
00:34:56,480 --> 00:35:00,000
Speaker 1: describes where the Saints are in their quarterback journey right now.

767
00:35:00,080 --> 00:35:00,360
Speaker 2: Allen.

768
00:35:00,800 --> 00:35:04,400
Speaker 1: Look, you know, Derek have like fourteen straight completions in

769
00:35:04,440 --> 00:35:07,520
Speaker 1: this game before he gets hurt. You know, the interception

770
00:35:08,080 --> 00:35:10,279
Speaker 1: went right through the hands of Juwan Johnson. Like when

771
00:35:10,320 --> 00:35:13,600
Speaker 1: he's on, they're not helping him when he's off. Uh,

772
00:35:13,840 --> 00:35:16,680
Speaker 1: you know, it's it's trouble Like they just man, that's

773
00:35:16,719 --> 00:35:18,759
Speaker 1: a that is a tough That is a tough one.

774
00:35:19,000 --> 00:35:20,960
Speaker 1: Credit printing them for making a ball game of it.

775
00:35:21,040 --> 00:35:23,439
Speaker 1: But I don't know that there's a lot to really

776
00:35:23,520 --> 00:35:24,280
Speaker 1: like moving forward.

777
00:35:24,960 --> 00:35:27,280
Speaker 3: No, but I will say this, I think the Saints

778
00:35:27,280 --> 00:35:28,960
Speaker 3: are had their best when they do the two headed

779
00:35:28,960 --> 00:35:32,399
Speaker 3: monster with Jamis went Saysom Hill Like. I know people

780
00:35:32,440 --> 00:35:34,680
Speaker 3: don't want to put it, but the combination of James,

781
00:35:34,719 --> 00:35:37,360
Speaker 3: because Jamis pushes the ball down the field and Taysom

782
00:35:37,400 --> 00:35:40,760
Speaker 3: Hill is still a dominant running runner at the position,

783
00:35:41,239 --> 00:35:43,279
Speaker 3: they should just go all in on that. That gives

784
00:35:43,320 --> 00:35:46,320
Speaker 3: them their bess, their offense moves, it has a different

785
00:35:46,400 --> 00:35:50,560
Speaker 3: flow and feel to it. I know Dennis Allen is

786
00:35:50,920 --> 00:35:54,480
Speaker 3: like deeply entrenched in the Derek Carr thing, but if

787
00:35:54,480 --> 00:35:57,480
Speaker 3: he wants to win, Winston and Hill should be the quarterbacks.

788
00:35:57,480 --> 00:35:59,680
Speaker 3: They should be co number one, or at the very.

789
00:35:59,520 --> 00:36:04,919
Speaker 2: Least, more Taysom with Derek, Like at the very least. Yeah,

790
00:36:05,000 --> 00:36:08,080
Speaker 2: I think it's I think it's probably a pretty realistic

791
00:36:08,120 --> 00:36:10,960
Speaker 2: possibility we see more Tasom no matter who he's out

792
00:36:10,960 --> 00:36:12,480
Speaker 2: there with, I would imagine we're going to see more

793
00:36:12,520 --> 00:36:14,439
Speaker 2: and more of him. All Right, we got a couple

794
00:36:14,480 --> 00:36:17,640
Speaker 2: more to go here. Texans Broncos. Texans hold on. They

795
00:36:17,640 --> 00:36:20,520
Speaker 2: get a stop late, which is something teams haven't been

796
00:36:20,520 --> 00:36:22,759
Speaker 2: able to do against the Broncos for over a month,

797
00:36:22,840 --> 00:36:24,480
Speaker 2: is get that key stop when you need it. They

798
00:36:24,480 --> 00:36:27,640
Speaker 2: were able to do that game again where I didn't

799
00:36:27,719 --> 00:36:30,239
Speaker 2: see the game, so I'm looking at the box score,

800
00:36:30,280 --> 00:36:32,040
Speaker 2: which is going to tell me what I want to study,

801
00:36:32,080 --> 00:36:33,680
Speaker 2: like what aspect of the game, and the thing that

802
00:36:33,760 --> 00:36:36,520
Speaker 2: jumped out, I'm like, oh my gosh. When you look

803
00:36:36,520 --> 00:36:38,640
Speaker 2: at Nico Collins going nine for a buck ninety one

804
00:36:38,680 --> 00:36:40,640
Speaker 2: in a box score, I'm like, Holy moly, what is

805
00:36:40,760 --> 00:36:43,239
Speaker 2: going on here? So watch those cutups. The first one

806
00:36:43,280 --> 00:36:45,759
Speaker 2: is just a home run ball. I mean it just

807
00:36:45,880 --> 00:36:48,239
Speaker 2: wins right off the release, right off the line scrimmage

808
00:36:48,239 --> 00:36:50,919
Speaker 2: and goes. And then after that was a variety of things.

809
00:36:50,960 --> 00:36:52,400
Speaker 2: And as a big receiver, I don't know. Maybe it

810
00:36:52,440 --> 00:36:55,160
Speaker 2: was because I saw this jersey in New England yesterday,

811
00:36:55,680 --> 00:36:58,000
Speaker 2: but I saw Josh Gordon jersey, and for some reason,

812
00:36:58,080 --> 00:36:59,880
Speaker 2: Josh Gordon was kind of in the back of my head.

813
00:37:00,120 --> 00:37:02,920
Speaker 2: And I don't think Niko is quite as athletic as

814
00:37:02,960 --> 00:37:06,240
Speaker 2: Josh warr is freaking, but just in that body type

815
00:37:06,239 --> 00:37:09,200
Speaker 2: that is a power forward body that can still really

816
00:37:09,320 --> 00:37:11,840
Speaker 2: move and you know, you can go like Brandon Marshall

817
00:37:11,840 --> 00:37:14,160
Speaker 2: like type of guys that have those big frames that

818
00:37:14,200 --> 00:37:16,640
Speaker 2: can that can move like that. It's there's not a

819
00:37:16,680 --> 00:37:19,120
Speaker 2: lot of them. It's a pretty unique skill set in

820
00:37:19,160 --> 00:37:21,040
Speaker 2: that in that size. I hate to see Tank Dell

821
00:37:21,080 --> 00:37:23,640
Speaker 2: go down. I think it's gonna it's gonna lead to

822
00:37:23,680 --> 00:37:27,359
Speaker 2: an interesting debate and discussion because all year long we've

823
00:37:27,360 --> 00:37:29,680
Speaker 2: talked about, look, hey, you're don't have to change all

824
00:37:29,719 --> 00:37:33,120
Speaker 2: these these smaller receivers are having success, and then you

825
00:37:33,239 --> 00:37:34,839
Speaker 2: hate to see him go down. But then the other

826
00:37:34,880 --> 00:37:36,400
Speaker 2: people on the other side of the argument are, go,

827
00:37:36,800 --> 00:37:39,200
Speaker 2: that's our concern with the smaller receivers. It's just going

828
00:37:39,239 --> 00:37:40,759
Speaker 2: to be hard to keep these guys and run them

829
00:37:40,760 --> 00:37:42,320
Speaker 2: out there. Seventeen weeks Buck.

830
00:37:42,719 --> 00:37:44,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's so crazy because he's just in a pile

831
00:37:44,680 --> 00:37:46,600
Speaker 3: like they're won the football, like he's not even.

832
00:37:46,480 --> 00:37:48,080
Speaker 2: Like, yeah, it.

833
00:37:49,800 --> 00:37:52,120
Speaker 3: Just happens to be in the mix or whatever. I'll

834
00:37:52,160 --> 00:37:56,000
Speaker 3: say this about the tackling man to be Coaans has

835
00:37:56,040 --> 00:37:59,040
Speaker 3: coming there and really energize this team, Like defancy, they

836
00:37:59,080 --> 00:38:00,960
Speaker 3: do a really good job. But can they got players?

837
00:38:00,960 --> 00:38:02,840
Speaker 3: You so Dereck s meaning to get another interception? He

838
00:38:02,880 --> 00:38:06,279
Speaker 3: has like ye too, I think he has four over

839
00:38:06,280 --> 00:38:08,399
Speaker 3: the past three weeks. He's kind of in the mix

840
00:38:08,480 --> 00:38:13,479
Speaker 3: after coming off being injured. This team plays really well

841
00:38:13,520 --> 00:38:16,120
Speaker 3: and c J. Stroud has a little spunk got into

842
00:38:16,120 --> 00:38:18,719
Speaker 3: it with Alex Singleton, Alex Singintson kind of pushed him

843
00:38:18,719 --> 00:38:20,960
Speaker 3: and mutched them and CJ kind of bowed back. And

844
00:38:21,480 --> 00:38:23,560
Speaker 3: you can always tell if your quarterback is well liked

845
00:38:23,600 --> 00:38:26,120
Speaker 3: because when they get engaged in those moments, you get

846
00:38:26,120 --> 00:38:29,160
Speaker 3: to see if the cavary comes running. DJ. I've never

847
00:38:29,200 --> 00:38:32,240
Speaker 3: seen more Texans on the field like ready to surround

848
00:38:32,360 --> 00:38:35,000
Speaker 3: Alex Singleton in my life. I mean it was like,

849
00:38:35,120 --> 00:38:39,000
Speaker 3: oh no, not a one. So it was you know,

850
00:38:39,040 --> 00:38:42,560
Speaker 3: you talk about like someone really earning his stripes and

851
00:38:42,640 --> 00:38:44,640
Speaker 3: the leadership stuff or whatever, like he's been great, like

852
00:38:44,680 --> 00:38:47,640
Speaker 3: all this throwing stuff or whatever, but the leadership and

853
00:38:47,719 --> 00:38:50,000
Speaker 3: the poise that he is displayed as the leader of

854
00:38:50,040 --> 00:38:53,759
Speaker 3: the Texans has really ingratiated himself his teammates, and man,

855
00:38:53,800 --> 00:38:55,640
Speaker 3: this team is gonna be there for a while. I mean,

856
00:38:56,520 --> 00:38:59,400
Speaker 3: look all the twist and turns after Deshaun watson saga,

857
00:39:00,040 --> 00:39:01,920
Speaker 3: and they got it right. They're in a better position

858
00:39:02,040 --> 00:39:03,920
Speaker 3: now than they were when they started a couple of

859
00:39:04,000 --> 00:39:05,399
Speaker 3: years ago, like half off again.

860
00:39:05,480 --> 00:39:08,720
Speaker 2: Oh man, they're a great spot, dream spot. Everybody jealous

861
00:39:08,719 --> 00:39:09,680
Speaker 2: of where they are right now.

862
00:39:09,960 --> 00:39:14,719
Speaker 3: Also, in all the conversation about Will Anderson not being yeah,

863
00:39:14,920 --> 00:39:17,080
Speaker 3: I think I think we can put that the bid.

864
00:39:17,239 --> 00:39:21,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, pressures in this scheme, Like I mean, but Russell

865
00:39:21,920 --> 00:39:25,000
Speaker 1: Wilson had a little bit of Will Anderson's jersey on

866
00:39:25,160 --> 00:39:26,319
Speaker 1: his back in this one.

867
00:39:26,360 --> 00:39:26,960
Speaker 2: I mean it was.

868
00:39:27,520 --> 00:39:29,840
Speaker 1: Will Anderson is just as much of a dog on

869
00:39:29,880 --> 00:39:32,200
Speaker 1: the other side as I think that they're getting with

870
00:39:32,280 --> 00:39:34,040
Speaker 1: the quarterback on the offensive side.

871
00:39:34,400 --> 00:39:38,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, Will Anderson over Tyree Wilson. Uh, smart move. He's

872
00:39:38,640 --> 00:39:41,239
Speaker 2: got five sacks now and again, a whole bunch of

873
00:39:41,239 --> 00:39:44,480
Speaker 2: pressures and he plays like almost every snap like Max

874
00:39:44,520 --> 00:39:47,839
Speaker 2: Crosby does. Yeah, he's he's Award Daddy. So yeah, they're

875
00:39:47,880 --> 00:39:50,319
Speaker 2: in great shape there. The Broncos again, they've been on

876
00:39:50,320 --> 00:39:52,120
Speaker 2: a nice little run. Couldn't quite get to play there

877
00:39:52,120 --> 00:39:55,920
Speaker 2: at the end defensively though, still still getting after the quarterback.

878
00:39:56,000 --> 00:39:58,879
Speaker 2: They did about as well against Stroudish as anybody has,

879
00:39:59,400 --> 00:40:01,400
Speaker 2: as hot as out has been, as craz as he's played.

880
00:40:01,440 --> 00:40:04,080
Speaker 2: So uh, still a lot to play for there for

881
00:40:04,120 --> 00:40:09,560
Speaker 2: the Denver Broncos. Last one buck the Dolphins. I mean,

882
00:40:10,560 --> 00:40:12,279
Speaker 2: are we calling this a game? Are we referring to

883
00:40:12,280 --> 00:40:14,880
Speaker 2: this as a game football?

884
00:40:15,560 --> 00:40:18,200
Speaker 3: The reason why we're bringing this up because we have

885
00:40:18,239 --> 00:40:19,880
Speaker 3: to have a discussion about Tyreek Kill.

886
00:40:19,719 --> 00:40:20,799
Speaker 2: Being the MVP of the league.

887
00:40:21,120 --> 00:40:23,160
Speaker 3: All right, so we have to have a discussion because

888
00:40:23,160 --> 00:40:28,439
Speaker 3: he's on pace to break two thousand yards. DJ, I've

889
00:40:28,440 --> 00:40:30,560
Speaker 3: never seen it. We've talked about this, We've talked about

890
00:40:30,600 --> 00:40:33,000
Speaker 3: it in box and whatever, like, hey man, don't get

891
00:40:33,080 --> 00:40:36,960
Speaker 3: knocked out with the right hand, DJ. Everyone knows when

892
00:40:37,000 --> 00:40:41,239
Speaker 3: you deal with the Miami Dolphins, number ten can go deep.

893
00:40:41,800 --> 00:40:44,360
Speaker 3: But DJ, I've never seen more deep balls. I'm like,

894
00:40:44,840 --> 00:40:47,680
Speaker 3: do we not note that he is going deep in

895
00:40:47,960 --> 00:40:50,040
Speaker 3: like every week? I'm like, it has to be on

896
00:40:50,040 --> 00:40:52,760
Speaker 3: the scouting report. Who is given the advanced scouting report

897
00:40:52,840 --> 00:41:00,279
Speaker 3: like to get deep and twice deep ball? And I

898
00:41:00,320 --> 00:41:03,120
Speaker 3: mean they're not even close one on one situation. They

899
00:41:03,200 --> 00:41:06,200
Speaker 3: go andy, hit a flop like just boom, hey man,

900
00:41:06,320 --> 00:41:09,480
Speaker 3: back up, back up, get ten yards deep. But don't

901
00:41:09,480 --> 00:41:13,040
Speaker 3: allow number ten to run past you. And I I

902
00:41:13,080 --> 00:41:16,239
Speaker 3: just don't know. I don't know how how you how

903
00:41:16,239 --> 00:41:18,640
Speaker 3: you can keep it from him. Everyone knows what he's

904
00:41:18,680 --> 00:41:20,319
Speaker 3: doing and he still be sure. At some point you

905
00:41:20,280 --> 00:41:21,239
Speaker 3: gotta knowledge.

906
00:41:21,000 --> 00:41:24,719
Speaker 2: His great I'll say this real quick, gret In the

907
00:41:24,760 --> 00:41:27,000
Speaker 2: only golf reference I'll make for the entire year. As

908
00:41:27,080 --> 00:41:28,719
Speaker 2: you guys know, I got into golf a little bit

909
00:41:28,760 --> 00:41:32,120
Speaker 2: over the last couple of years, and I will I'm

910
00:41:32,120 --> 00:41:34,160
Speaker 2: not any good, but I'll watch a I'll watch an

911
00:41:34,200 --> 00:41:37,040
Speaker 2: Instagram video and be like, if I just changed how

912
00:41:37,040 --> 00:41:40,040
Speaker 2: I got my hands in my backswing, it's gonna work.

913
00:41:40,120 --> 00:41:41,440
Speaker 2: It's gonna work. And then I get out to the

914
00:41:41,480 --> 00:41:43,919
Speaker 2: golf course and I try it and it doesn't work.

915
00:41:43,960 --> 00:41:46,359
Speaker 2: And I just imagine defensive coordinators going to that week

916
00:41:46,560 --> 00:41:50,120
Speaker 2: they must convince themselves nobody's done this against Tyreek Hill,

917
00:41:50,400 --> 00:41:53,160
Speaker 2: this is gonna work. And they try something different, and

918
00:41:53,200 --> 00:41:57,200
Speaker 2: guess what, it doesn't work. Look, let me let me

919
00:41:57,200 --> 00:42:00,520
Speaker 2: ask you guys, this the anonomy of these decisions, because

920
00:42:01,320 --> 00:42:02,280
Speaker 2: I think we all.

921
00:42:02,160 --> 00:42:04,480
Speaker 1: Kind of we all kind of understand. Look, Ron Rivera

922
00:42:04,560 --> 00:42:07,439
Speaker 1: runs personnel there, he's got final say on all that, right.

923
00:42:07,640 --> 00:42:09,319
Speaker 1: I think we all saw that in the draft room

924
00:42:09,360 --> 00:42:14,239
Speaker 1: and he obviously takes, you know, all the evaluation and suggestions.

925
00:42:13,719 --> 00:42:17,120
Speaker 2: From the staff there. But if you're in a situation.

926
00:42:16,680 --> 00:42:19,520
Speaker 1: Where you've got a new owner coming in and wins

927
00:42:19,920 --> 00:42:22,960
Speaker 1: are at a premium, right because you've got to impress,

928
00:42:24,560 --> 00:42:27,000
Speaker 1: why do you why would you move why would you

929
00:42:27,080 --> 00:42:31,760
Speaker 1: ship the two best players on your defense away?

930
00:42:32,800 --> 00:42:33,239
Speaker 3: I don't know.

931
00:42:33,360 --> 00:42:37,200
Speaker 1: I just like I get unless you've been given assurances that, hey,

932
00:42:37,320 --> 00:42:38,640
Speaker 1: we're going to do this for the future.

933
00:42:38,719 --> 00:42:40,320
Speaker 2: But I got to be a part of the plan.

934
00:42:40,120 --> 00:42:43,120
Speaker 1: For that future, like that's the only way otherwise, No,

935
00:42:43,239 --> 00:42:46,120
Speaker 1: I am keeping everything. I have to give myself the

936
00:42:46,160 --> 00:42:48,960
Speaker 1: best possible chance to win with the team that I

937
00:42:49,000 --> 00:42:52,319
Speaker 1: have assembled, so that I can point to this and say, guys, look,

938
00:42:52,640 --> 00:42:55,000
Speaker 1: we have found a way to win here. We just

939
00:42:55,040 --> 00:42:56,880
Speaker 1: need a few more pieces and we'll get it done.

940
00:42:57,200 --> 00:42:59,640
Speaker 1: I just don't know how planning for the future helps,

941
00:42:59,840 --> 00:43:02,800
Speaker 1: you know, you would think a staff, you know, both

942
00:43:02,840 --> 00:43:05,400
Speaker 1: on the evaluation side on the coaching side, that is

943
00:43:05,520 --> 00:43:08,520
Speaker 1: essentially you know, coaching for their jobs this year.

944
00:43:09,560 --> 00:43:10,880
Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't get all that part with

945
00:43:10,920 --> 00:43:13,719
Speaker 2: the command hips. Can I give you the one think

946
00:43:13,800 --> 00:43:16,279
Speaker 2: piece that I guarantee you will be written in the

947
00:43:16,320 --> 00:43:19,359
Speaker 2: next week or two. Yeah, one hundred percent. You could

948
00:43:19,360 --> 00:43:21,400
Speaker 2: take it to the bank. Somebody's going to do the

949
00:43:21,440 --> 00:43:24,399
Speaker 2: research and somebody's going to look at what it would

950
00:43:24,440 --> 00:43:29,319
Speaker 2: have cost Kansas City to keep Tyreek Hill and other

951
00:43:29,400 --> 00:43:31,239
Speaker 2: options they could have had in terms of maybe it

952
00:43:31,239 --> 00:43:33,360
Speaker 2: would have cost him, you know, maybe it was Kelsey,

953
00:43:33,400 --> 00:43:35,000
Speaker 2: maybe it would have cost him some of these young

954
00:43:35,080 --> 00:43:38,040
Speaker 2: defensive players. Obviously the draft pick compensation that they got back,

955
00:43:38,520 --> 00:43:40,960
Speaker 2: maybe the defense isn't quite as good. All I know

956
00:43:41,120 --> 00:43:43,879
Speaker 2: is it's hard to look at him and what he's

957
00:43:43,920 --> 00:43:47,120
Speaker 2: doing there and then see Kansas City and their struggles.

958
00:43:47,120 --> 00:43:48,919
Speaker 2: And mind you, Kansas City won a super Bowl after

959
00:43:48,960 --> 00:43:51,440
Speaker 2: he left, so it's not like they haven't had success.

960
00:43:51,960 --> 00:43:55,800
Speaker 2: But when you were watching that offense with him in it,

961
00:43:55,800 --> 00:43:58,160
Speaker 2: it wasn't it wasn't like are they going to win

962
00:43:58,280 --> 00:44:00,200
Speaker 2: one or two or three super Bowls? It was like,

963
00:44:00,320 --> 00:44:02,200
Speaker 2: are these guys going to do something that's never been

964
00:44:02,200 --> 00:44:05,080
Speaker 2: done before and win like seven eight super Bowls with

965
00:44:05,120 --> 00:44:08,000
Speaker 2: this combination? Like? Was there another way? Is what I'm

966
00:44:08,000 --> 00:44:09,399
Speaker 2: getting at, somebody's gonna write that thing.

967
00:44:10,200 --> 00:44:12,919
Speaker 3: Well, somebody, somebody is going to write it. And DJ.

968
00:44:13,239 --> 00:44:16,600
Speaker 3: The thing that undermines us alid is eg like like

969
00:44:16,760 --> 00:44:18,960
Speaker 3: and and one of the things that you worry about.

970
00:44:19,000 --> 00:44:22,560
Speaker 3: And I talked about this when he was traded for

971
00:44:22,719 --> 00:44:24,960
Speaker 3: Andy Reid because they've had so much effense going all

972
00:44:24,960 --> 00:44:26,960
Speaker 3: the way back in Green Bay. In terms of developing

973
00:44:27,040 --> 00:44:30,000
Speaker 3: wide receivers. Remember Tyreek Hill comes in as a fifth

974
00:44:30,080 --> 00:44:33,000
Speaker 3: round pick like a character played a partner.

975
00:44:33,160 --> 00:44:34,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, he wasn't a fifth round player.

976
00:44:34,800 --> 00:44:39,200
Speaker 4: I remember they use him as a punp returner.

977
00:44:39,400 --> 00:44:41,279
Speaker 3: They use him as a gadget guy. And when they

978
00:44:41,360 --> 00:44:45,120
Speaker 3: made him wide receiver one, that was before anybody thought

979
00:44:45,160 --> 00:44:48,200
Speaker 3: he could run route and those things. And so sometimes

980
00:44:48,280 --> 00:44:50,759
Speaker 3: what happens is you see that, hey, I was able

981
00:44:50,840 --> 00:44:53,440
Speaker 3: to do this, you begin to think it's the system,

982
00:44:53,560 --> 00:44:56,120
Speaker 3: not the player. I think they now probably have a

983
00:44:56,120 --> 00:44:59,480
Speaker 3: greater appreciation for Tyreek Hill as the player and if

984
00:44:59,480 --> 00:45:01,640
Speaker 3: they could bring that back. Oh, I'm sure they bring

985
00:45:01,680 --> 00:45:04,160
Speaker 3: that back, because the offense is a lot different with

986
00:45:04,280 --> 00:45:06,280
Speaker 3: Tyreek Hill in it than it is without.

987
00:45:08,360 --> 00:45:10,239
Speaker 2: And you don't find another one. He's one on one.

988
00:45:10,400 --> 00:45:12,520
Speaker 2: I mean you literally had you had a one of

989
00:45:12,560 --> 00:45:15,319
Speaker 2: one quarterback, a one of one tight end, and a

990
00:45:15,360 --> 00:45:17,600
Speaker 2: one on one wide receiver like they were they were.

991
00:45:17,680 --> 00:45:21,160
Speaker 4: That was what was so nuts, Yeah, because you were

992
00:45:21,200 --> 00:45:24,120
Speaker 4: guaranteed he at thirty points. So no matter what, if

993
00:45:24,120 --> 00:45:26,799
Speaker 4: he's there, you're guaranteed to put up thirty. So now

994
00:45:26,800 --> 00:45:28,200
Speaker 4: you're just trying to figure out, how do we play

995
00:45:28,239 --> 00:45:30,960
Speaker 4: defense with a with a thirty spot Like you don't

996
00:45:31,000 --> 00:45:32,120
Speaker 4: have to hold him a seventeen.

997
00:45:32,440 --> 00:45:34,480
Speaker 3: We can give him twenty two. It still win.

998
00:45:35,600 --> 00:45:37,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, and also remember though the thought, Remember the thought.

999
00:45:38,040 --> 00:45:40,560
Speaker 2: The thought was though that Okay, now teams have put

1000
00:45:40,560 --> 00:45:42,960
Speaker 2: the safeties in the parking lot, and now you're they're

1001
00:45:43,000 --> 00:45:44,400
Speaker 2: going to force you. They're going to take away the

1002
00:45:44,400 --> 00:45:47,840
Speaker 2: big plays. Well, now with Miami even putting the safeties

1003
00:45:47,880 --> 00:45:50,799
Speaker 2: in the parking lot, he's running uh past them. I mean,

1004
00:45:50,840 --> 00:45:53,279
Speaker 2: I don't know how. It doesn't matter. Yeah, you could

1005
00:45:53,320 --> 00:45:54,960
Speaker 2: throw him, hit him in cut, let him split them

1006
00:45:55,040 --> 00:45:58,720
Speaker 2: like he they It hasn't worked. And uh anyways again

1007
00:45:59,160 --> 00:46:01,720
Speaker 2: and they've done a great can see Super Bowl Champs

1008
00:46:01,760 --> 00:46:03,839
Speaker 2: without Tyreek Hill. I don't take that away from I

1009
00:46:03,880 --> 00:46:07,360
Speaker 2: just think, man, this could have been a historic offense

1010
00:46:07,440 --> 00:46:08,960
Speaker 2: and team run that they could have been on. And

1011
00:46:08,960 --> 00:46:11,640
Speaker 2: we'll see if they can get the ship right here

1012
00:46:11,640 --> 00:46:14,120
Speaker 2: and make some additions in the offseason. All right, guys,

1013
00:46:14,120 --> 00:46:16,439
Speaker 2: this is a fun one. I appreciate you guys being

1014
00:46:16,440 --> 00:46:18,959
Speaker 2: flexible as we're all kind of in different states making

1015
00:46:19,000 --> 00:46:22,120
Speaker 2: this thing work. But we got her done and we'll

1016
00:46:22,160 --> 00:46:26,160
Speaker 2: be back tomorrow. Apologies to Florida State fans, Hey go

1017
00:46:26,200 --> 00:46:28,279
Speaker 2: get them, go get the Bulldogs, go get them. Show

1018
00:46:28,360 --> 00:46:32,000
Speaker 2: us what you got here. We'll see that's gonna do

1019
00:46:32,040 --> 00:46:33,600
Speaker 2: it for us. We'll see you next time. Right here,

1020
00:46:33,600 --> 00:46:34,440
Speaker 2: I'll move the sticks