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Speaker 1: Lots to Say with Bobby Bones and Matt Castle is

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Speaker 1: a production of the NFL and iHeart Podcasts.

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Speaker 2: We got lots. Just say we got lost? Just say.

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Speaker 3: What Becker here and we hope you say because we

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Speaker 3: got lost?

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Speaker 2: Just say, yeah, we got lost.

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Speaker 4: Just say.

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Speaker 2: Here's Bobby That all right? You're the dealer, dealer's choice choice.

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Speaker 2: There's like eighty things to talk about. You're up. You

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Speaker 2: pick whatever you want. You want options or you want

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Speaker 2: to go blind. No, I mean.

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Speaker 3: One thing that I did see on your social media

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Speaker 3: this week. We've got to start with your week of

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Speaker 3: sports last week. Yeah, well we've talked about it on

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Speaker 3: the show, right, never never broken eighty.

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Speaker 2: And golf I've never broken. Yeah, yeah, we did talk

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Speaker 2: about that. We have never broken.

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Speaker 3: And you've been close, you've been at eighty. But last

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Speaker 3: week you finally accomplished something that has.

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Speaker 2: Been choosing this over Brock Parties contract. You're choosing that.

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Speaker 2: There's like eight things, but.

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Speaker 3: We're definitely going to talk about Brock Party's contract. But

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Speaker 3: I think first and foremost we got to talk about

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Speaker 3: the elephant in the room because that was one. But

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Speaker 3: you also meddled in your first ever pickleball tournament. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: I mean this is I'm basically putting you on a

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Speaker 3: pedestal to let you brag to our audience about one

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Speaker 3: year athleticism, your determination, and what you accomplished this week.

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Speaker 2: I was reading online some people sent one of the

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Speaker 2: greatest weeks in sports history. Oh no, no doubt they've

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Speaker 2: both happened the same week.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I shot a seventy eight and as a quiet

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Speaker 2: seventy eight had no birdies.

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Speaker 3: No birdies, and you shot a seventy eight. That's consistency,

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Speaker 3: my friend.

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Speaker 2: As consistent as possible. You know what. I bought one

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Speaker 2: of those mini drivers. Oh you did buy that? And

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Speaker 2: not the Actress mini driver, No, the actual golf club Yeah,

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Speaker 2: which you can use as a driver, or you can

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Speaker 2: use its like a three would. But it's shorter shaft

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Speaker 2: also your nickammacoll yep, and a slightly larger head than

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Speaker 2: the three would, but a slightly smaller head than the driver.

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Speaker 2: And I just kind of kept it in the middle. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I don't know what that so it was a game

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Speaker 2: changer for you. It was my irons where I was

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Speaker 2: playing pretty I was just playing consistently pretty good. And

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Speaker 2: if you can get near the green and have a

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Speaker 2: shot to two pint. That's all it was. I didn't

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Speaker 2: like whole sixteen.

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Speaker 3: Okay, So is that when you clinch it up a

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Speaker 3: little bit and you're like, okay, look, I'm.

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Speaker 2: At the I don't clean, I'm at the cuss. I

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Speaker 2: don't clinch. You didn't clinch, obviously, seventy eight. I don't clinch. Never. No,

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Speaker 2: there have been times, but generally I don't want to

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Speaker 2: say I don't feel pressure. But pressure doesn't make me clinch.

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Speaker 2: Pressure excites the crap out of me. So but there

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Speaker 2: really was any pressure? You weren't playing like a tournament,

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Speaker 2: But I it was awesome. So I got a seventy eight.

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Speaker 2: And then I played in a pickleball tournament. Didn't really

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Speaker 2: know what I was doing. I signed up blindly and

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Speaker 2: I went and I played, and my rating is like

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Speaker 2: a three point seven eight eight or three point eight?

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Speaker 2: What does that mean? Exactly? What does that even mean?

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Speaker 2: So handy in golf, your handicap, your gin g hi

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Speaker 2: N right, So I'm like a twelve in golf. Okay,

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Speaker 2: I'm right there with you. A duper is that in pickleball?

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Speaker 2: And I don't even know what that means. So you

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Speaker 2: gotta plug in your score. When you beat somebody, you

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Speaker 2: Something like that? So do they mix and match partners

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Speaker 2: or you bring your own partner? I played singles? Oh

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Speaker 2: you played singles? Yeah, okay, I'd either grind it out. Yeah, obviously,

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Speaker 2: was me. Yes, and so I played singles and yeah,

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Speaker 2: I you play round robin. I'm gonna give you thirty

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Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, dead. It's a grind. It's a grind. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: like my ankles and my hip's heart still a little bit.

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Speaker 2: But you play like round robin. You play everybody and

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Speaker 2: you play another little tournament, end up with a bronze

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Speaker 2: medal that I got beat once in the round robin,

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Speaker 2: but I ran into the fence and freaking kill my shoulder,

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Speaker 2: blood everywhere. Yeah, it was awesome.

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Speaker 3: Yes, that's you're like a gladiator out there. Yeah, just

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Speaker 2: That was it. So that's what I did this weekend.

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Speaker 2: You were baseball games. Baseball games, eight of them this weekend.

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Speaker 2: Both my sons play your kids. I don't know, I

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Speaker 2: fast pitch.

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Speaker 3: I'm going to go out and play fast pitch. So

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Speaker 3: your kids played eight games, played eight games. Great weekend.

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Speaker 3: Is my birthday on Saturday, that was that was fantastic,

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Speaker 3: get to go watch kids. But my one son, he

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Speaker 3: pitched in his game, pitched a one hitter, lost one

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Speaker 2: No way, no run support. Who is he? Paul Skins?

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Speaker 3: In a nine year nine you baseball team like nine

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Speaker 3: to ten year olds. There was one run between two teams.

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Speaker 3: It's unheard of. Normally these teams like they'll score sixteen runs.

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Speaker 3: It'll be like seemed to ten. It was absurd, but

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Speaker 3: we ended up losing, so we got knocked out of

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Speaker 3: a tournament. My other son, he's a big kid, goes

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Speaker 3: out there, knocks three home runs on Saturday. He was

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Speaker 3: four for four with three home runs, a pretty good

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Speaker 3: day at the plate. Wow, we say, a big kid,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, about a head taller your size was it? Are

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Speaker 3: He's taller than I wasn't at his age. She's only eleven.

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Speaker 3: He's wearing a size twelve. He's like five eleven.

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Speaker 2: No way. Yeah. Do the doctor still think he'll grow?

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Speaker 2: I think so.

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Speaker 3: I think he's going to be like one of those

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Speaker 3: seven footers at least that's what. He's so far off

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Speaker 3: the growth chart it's absurd. So maybe he'll hit early

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Speaker 2: I don't know. Your wife was an excellent athlete at

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Speaker 2: USC volleyball player. Does she have a height in her family?

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Speaker 3: She does both, so her grandfather, her two brothers. We're

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Speaker 3: all six four, six five, And aren't you six or dad?

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Speaker 3: I'm six four man, So there's there's possibility there that

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Speaker 3: he does get up.

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Speaker 2: Into that upper echelon in his hand. Eye coordination for

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Speaker 2: an eleven year old is pretty good.

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Speaker 3: Great, great, Yeah, kids can play ball, so it's fun.

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Speaker 2: What do they like the best? You know, it's seasonal.

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Speaker 3: Because I don't force them to play all the different

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Speaker 3: sports and the fun part about this age is you

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Speaker 3: it's football season, they play football. When it's basketball, basketball, baseball,

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Speaker 3: they play baseball, and they kind of fall in love

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Speaker 2: But it takes a little time.

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Speaker 3: There's this period of time right after that season that

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Speaker 2: When do they get to play tackle football?

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Speaker 3: So my oldest son played fifth and sixth grade tackle football,

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Speaker 2: He was the kid with the dot on his helmet.

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Speaker 3: You can't carry the football, you can only play offense

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Speaker 2: When so we had fourth grade, I was good on

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Speaker 2: fourth grade. I got worse as it went because everybody

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Speaker 2: kept growing. Yeah, oh yeah, there's a lot of those guys. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: so in fourth, fifth, sixth grade, I played quarterback as

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Speaker 2: And then left young left handed. Yeah, when you were fourth,

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Speaker 2: fifth and sixth grade, were you playing football at all?

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Speaker 2: And were you heads and shoulders above the other kids?

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Speaker 3: Fourth grade was when I started, and I played quarterback

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Speaker 3: when I was in fourth grade. But it's one of

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Speaker 3: those things in Pop Warner, you played kind of a

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Speaker 2: I played quarterback and linebacker.

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Speaker 2: I wouldn't say I was the best. The first year

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Speaker 2: I played, we had this kid named Justin Skullen on

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Speaker 3: Guy looked like Walter Payton, Like he just ran through

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Speaker 2: It was incredible. I think then, like you said.

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Speaker 3: As we got a little bit older, everybody started to

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Speaker 2: I think I'm late blooming now. I had a shot

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Speaker 2: at seventy and want to pick a ball metal. I

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Speaker 2: know that's what I'm saying. Same week now, greatest week

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Speaker 2: of amateur sports you've ever seen. I don't want to

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Speaker 2: put amateur sports tag on it all. Well you kind

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Speaker 2: of have to. Are you a professional? Well defined professional? Well,

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Speaker 2: are you a professional?

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Speaker 4: I'm not right?

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Speaker 2: Okay, okay, my pick. I want to talk about and

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Speaker 2: we've talked about it briefly, and we've get in our

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Speaker 2: own theories on the NFL going to eighteen games, which

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Speaker 2: at some point they're going to go to eighteen games. Right,

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Speaker 2: you don't float it for this long without having the

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Speaker 2: plan of doing it. They're kind of warming us into

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Speaker 2: it because they've already got us to seventeen games, like

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Speaker 2: they warmed us up for that. There's another game coming,

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Speaker 2: another game coming. And so the latest story has been

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Speaker 2: that the NFL is setting the groundwork for in either

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Speaker 2: twenty six or twenty seven, adding that next extra game.

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Speaker 2: So I'm going to read you some of the rumored twists,

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Speaker 3: You've got to sit your starter at least one game,

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Speaker 2: Which makes backup quarterbacks so much more valuable, right, And

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Speaker 3: So what's the even point of going to eighteen games

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Speaker 2: Well, I think you're going to have to strategize.

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Speaker 3: You're one hundred percent and you only have a fifty

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Speaker 3: And you're also thinking about divisional opponents. You want all

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm gonna definitely get back in shape just in case.

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Speaker 3: You know they've had they've had a few injuries at

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Speaker 2: Guys, think about how much how much more value the

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Speaker 2: Now you've got a third string.

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Speaker 2: It's wild, and I think the players would make more money.

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Speaker 3: And they're trying to say player safety, but I mean,

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Speaker 2: Let's be honest. What do you think about because if

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Speaker 2: Does that bother you at off? They add games, therefore

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Speaker 3: Well, I think the record should start if you have

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Speaker 2: Eighteen game season?

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Speaker 3: Then those records should be held for those seasons that

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Speaker 2: That's just my opinion on it. So there's a record

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Speaker 3: Well, now they'll be an eighteen if they go to eighteen.

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Speaker 3: But with that circumstance where you only play sixteen, your

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Speaker 2: Imagine fantasy football. Oh my gosh, can you imagine lineups

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that would be a nightmare, but it would also

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you get more more football, more entertainment. Your team's

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Speaker 3: what are we moving on to now? It's usually NBA

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Speaker 2: I think for mid and fringe players it's a benefit

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Speaker 3: Can you imagine the coach is sitting in the room

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Speaker 3: Like you've got your your team's at full health, our

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Speaker 2: That's a game changer. You mentioned brock Party a second ago. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: Running to maccapriy running he was hurt year doing stem

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Speaker 3: Yeah, they just need to put him in like a

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Speaker 3: He's been there and he's proven that he can win

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Speaker 2: For him five year, two hundred and sixty five million

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Speaker 3: Future, right when you have control over your future, Because

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Speaker 2: As a fan, I don't love it. As a player,

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Speaker 3: Well forever. That's how the front offices work. The waves

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Speaker 3: they can do so. These contracts were always in favor

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Speaker 3: no trade clauses and so, and that comes with the

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Speaker 3: success of the league.

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Speaker 2: That's a lot of money. Congratulations to the guy that

437
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Speaker 2: was NFL poverty, not real life poverty, mister irrelevant. Yeah,

438
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Speaker 2: like eight hundred thousand bucks a year. So he's making Yeah,

439
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Speaker 2: he's barely getting by, but that's NFL poverty. And in

440
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Speaker 2: San Francisco that's like normal. Yeah, man, apartment costs me. Yeah,

441
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Speaker 2: he had a roommate, he had to have a roommate. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I congratulations. Yeah, that's amazing. We have Greg Rosenthal from

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Speaker 2: NFL Daily coming up next and we'll talk about the Cowboys,

444
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Speaker 2: we'll talk about Aaron Rodgers, we'll talk about the Browns

445
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Speaker 2: quarterback situation. We'll do that when we come back on

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Speaker 2: now with Greg Rosenthal, host of NFL Daily, which is

447
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Speaker 2: a podcast. It's Daily NFL News. We were kind of

448
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Speaker 2: listening in a minute ago, and I think we should

449
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Speaker 2: start with some of the stuff that you guys were

450
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Speaker 2: talking about in the in the old Daily there. Do

451
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Speaker 2: you want to talk about the Bengals for a second.

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Speaker 2: Do you want to tell us what's happening with possibly

453
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Speaker 2: the second or third best defensive player in the NFL.

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Speaker 6: Little Trey Hendrickson. Yeah, look, I don't think he's the

455
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Speaker 6: third best player. That's why you caught me off guard there.

456
00:21:07,536 --> 00:21:09,176
Speaker 6: I was like, is he the second or third best

457
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Speaker 6: pass rusher in the league. You could make an argument,

458
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Speaker 6: but to me, it's just like the Bengals being the Bengals,

459
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Speaker 6: which is not paying their players on time, and Bengals

460
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Speaker 6: fans will say, like, we literally just paid Jamar Chase

461
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Speaker 6: and we literally just paid to Higgins and it is

462
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Speaker 6: tough to pay everyone, but they're they're low balling Trey Hendrickson.

463
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Speaker 6: They tried to tell him before last season they would

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Speaker 6: take care of him. And when you make those sort

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Speaker 6: of promises, as I'm sure you know Matt like, then

466
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Speaker 6: you get into the next offseason and he literally led

467
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Speaker 6: the league in sacks, that you're going to have an

468
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Speaker 6: unhappy player.

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Speaker 2: Really unhappy player. Let's switch to the Raiders.

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Speaker 3: You've had a long standing support for Gino Smith and

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Speaker 3: what are your expectations of the Raiders and also coach

472
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Speaker 3: Carrol this season. I mean, it's here one, he's he's there,

473
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Speaker 3: But I think bringing Geno Smith over is a big ad.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, like the the Carol juice and just good vibes

475
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Speaker 6: is carrying like a lot of optims when you look

476
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Speaker 6: at their roster, it's not great. And Gino Smith being

477
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Speaker 6: a clear upgrade at quarterback, Like I love Gino and

478
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Speaker 6: I think he's a better than average starter, one of

479
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Speaker 6: the best like pure throwers of the football. But man,

480
00:22:17,096 --> 00:22:19,736
Speaker 6: they got a lot of holes. Like the offensive line

481
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Speaker 6: is a question pretty much the entire defense is, especially

482
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Speaker 6: the secondary. And yet I sort of believe that Pete

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Speaker 6: Carroll can get it done.

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Speaker 2: I think between both of you, guys, Greg and Matt

485
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Speaker 2: talking about Pete Carroll, one of my buddies said, how

486
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Speaker 2: does Pete Carroll stay relevant being that old? So Greg,

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Speaker 2: I want to ask you first, and I want Matt

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Speaker 2: to follow up because Matt played for him. Because Pete

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Speaker 2: Carroll is no spring chicken. He still is very youthful feeling.

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Speaker 2: But does he feel youthful in person?

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Speaker 6: Oh yeah, It's crazy to think that he's older than

492
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Speaker 6: every coach in the NFL. There's so many that like

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Speaker 6: seem older, that act older, Like he has just energy

494
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Speaker 6: Like that's crazy, And I think he just connects like

495
00:23:00,936 --> 00:23:04,535
Speaker 6: he's a person that's always connected with other humans in

496
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Speaker 6: a way that a lot of head coaches, frankly don't.

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Speaker 2: I totally agree with him.

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Speaker 3: Like he's got this youthful energy about him, and even

499
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Speaker 3: though he's what seventy three, he connects with his players,

500
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Speaker 3: He understands his players how to get the most in.

501
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Speaker 3: He teaches and coaches from a position of positivity, and

502
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Speaker 3: that's pretty special and I think that that's why he

503
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Speaker 3: gets the most out of those guys. So it'll be

504
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Speaker 3: interesting to see how he does with the Raiders. But

505
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Speaker 3: to say that he's still got it absolutely. I talked

506
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Speaker 3: to him last year when we went out to Washington

507
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Speaker 3: when his son was out there, and he had a

508
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Speaker 3: conversation with me over the phone for thirty minutes about

509
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Speaker 3: the history of the zone running game in the outside zone,

510
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Speaker 3: and I was like, coach, you need to get back

511
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Speaker 3: into it. He's like, don't worry, I'm not done yet.

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Speaker 3: So it's pretty funny.

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Speaker 2: I guess that's my next question about Pete Carroll, And

514
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Speaker 2: again I'll go to Greg and then to Matt. Does

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Speaker 2: Pete Carroll need football to live?

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Speaker 4: I guess so. I think a lot of these guys do.

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Speaker 6: He was teaching at USC, he actually finished out the

518
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Speaker 6: class after he took the Raiders job, Like people were

519
00:24:07,495 --> 00:24:09,736
Speaker 6: going to his class and he literally was the head

520
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Speaker 6: coach of the Las Vegas Raiders, which is wild.

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Speaker 4: I think it's just in his blood.

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Speaker 6: I think he wants to connect with like as many

523
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Speaker 6: people as he possibly can.

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Speaker 4: That that's where he gets energy from.

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Speaker 6: And you hear a lot of these coaches when they

526
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Speaker 6: stop coaching, like there's too big of a hole to fill.

527
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Speaker 6: That's why his old rival Bill Belichick's at UNC right now.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, when you're a ball coach, you're just a ball coach,

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Speaker 3: and you have to have it.

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Speaker 2: It's in your blood.

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Speaker 3: And I think that he's that type of person where

532
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Speaker 3: he can't sit around and go through an offseason all that.

533
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Speaker 3: If he has the opportunity to coach, he's going to

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Speaker 3: do it.

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Speaker 2: Greg. Let me ask you about the Brown situation. If

536
00:24:46,495 --> 00:24:53,815
Speaker 2: we read Twitter, it's well, check it out, Sanders crushing Gabriel. Fine,

537
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Speaker 2: But then you start to read reports coming out of

538
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Speaker 2: the Browns and it's like, hey, they're both actually doing

539
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Speaker 2: pretty good. Like what do we believe are the other

540
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Speaker 2: PR teams already working within the Browns.

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Speaker 6: It's just like a lack of information and people just

542
00:25:07,776 --> 00:25:10,296
Speaker 6: making stuff up. I mean, they're rookie mini camps. I

543
00:25:10,296 --> 00:25:13,416
Speaker 6: don't think you could take anything from anything. I do

544
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Speaker 6: think they'll give them a chance, both those rookies to play.

545
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Speaker 6: I don't see a world where Joe Flacco and Kenny

546
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Speaker 6: Pickett are on the roster in week one. I think

547
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Speaker 6: they'll keep both rookies, but neither one of those guys

548
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Speaker 6: going to start Week one. But man, they're just starting

549
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Speaker 6: in generally this time of year, I think anyone that's

550
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Speaker 6: trying to draw conclusions from anything has an agenda or

551
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Speaker 6: doesn't know what they're talking about.

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Speaker 3: All right, let's talk about what the team that you

553
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Speaker 3: really want to talk about, your diehard Patriots. Let's go, Brabe,

554
00:25:44,536 --> 00:25:47,015
Speaker 3: had a heck of an offseason. What are your expectation

555
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Speaker 3: for them over under ten wins?

556
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Speaker 6: Wow, it's so crazy how optimistic it is in New England.

557
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Speaker 4: Like, man, they were such a bad team.

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Speaker 6: But yes, they must have filled what seven to eight

559
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Speaker 6: starting jobs. I think because of the schedule being so easy,

560
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Speaker 6: it's reasonable to hope for them to have a winning red.

561
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Speaker 6: But I thought it was crazy that, for instance, in Vegas.

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Speaker 6: They look at the Jets as three wins worse than

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Speaker 6: the Patriots. To me, the Jets, the Dolphins, and the

564
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Speaker 6: Patriots are all in this similar sort of zone where

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Speaker 6: if things go right, yeah, they could win ten games,

566
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Speaker 6: you know, not really be a Super Bowl contender, but compete.

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Speaker 6: But there are a lot of ways that things could

568
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Speaker 6: go wrong. Still, they're counting on a lot of new

569
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Speaker 6: faces on the offensive line for the Patriots.

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Speaker 4: I think the defense will definitely be better.

571
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Speaker 6: Will it be good, I don't know, but either way,

572
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Speaker 6: we got Drake May and we're feeling good.

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Speaker 2: So we're recording this Tuesday afternoon and it goes up

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Speaker 2: right in early Wednesday morning. So the last I read

575
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Speaker 2: was the Packers have changed their language on trying to

576
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Speaker 2: get the toush push canceled, and it's mostly you can't

577
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Speaker 2: pull or push. Where do we stand right now?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I think it sounds like there's a good chance

579
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Speaker 6: that it'll pass.

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Speaker 4: I'm annoyed by it. I don't have that they're changing

581
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Speaker 4: the rule. To me, it just feels like sour grapes.

582
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Speaker 6: It feels like this is sort of anti anti what

583
00:27:03,296 --> 00:27:05,656
Speaker 6: the NFL should be for, like a team exec to

584
00:27:05,696 --> 00:27:08,015
Speaker 6: play so well that we just get rid of it. Like,

585
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Speaker 6: I don't think it's that big of a deal. I

586
00:27:10,016 --> 00:27:12,136
Speaker 6: think they should keep it. We'll see if people agree

587
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Speaker 6: with me.

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Speaker 3: Well, the Cowboys will probably see it week one because

589
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Speaker 3: they're playing in Philly. And my question is they added

590
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Speaker 3: George Pickens. How much of a difference will he make

591
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Speaker 3: for this team this year and does that put them

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Speaker 3: in a position now to compete in that division.

593
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Speaker 6: I think it's huge because he just upgrades the position

594
00:27:29,656 --> 00:27:33,376
Speaker 6: they were the worst at, which was receiver depth, even

595
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Speaker 6: their tight end position. Like Jake Ferguson's a good player,

596
00:27:35,735 --> 00:27:38,376
Speaker 6: but they didn't really have a second weapon behind Cede Lamb.

597
00:27:38,416 --> 00:27:40,936
Speaker 6: Like he compliments him very well. He's never played with

598
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Speaker 6: as good a player as CD Lamb, who's a lot

599
00:27:42,696 --> 00:27:44,936
Speaker 6: more versatile than him. But you have Pickens kind of

600
00:27:44,936 --> 00:27:47,975
Speaker 6: in that old Michael Gallup role and he's playing.

601
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Speaker 4: For a contract.

602
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Speaker 6: They've had good success with guys coming in that were

603
00:27:52,416 --> 00:27:55,816
Speaker 6: maybe you know, a little divisive in their old spots

604
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Speaker 6: and then playing for a contract and then getting that contract.

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Speaker 4: I think a Roy Williams back in the day, I

606
00:27:59,936 --> 00:28:01,775
Speaker 4: think a too back in the day. I think Pickens

607
00:28:01,816 --> 00:28:02,696
Speaker 4: could be a lot like that.

608
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Speaker 2: Let's stay with the Cowboys for a second and talk Dak.

609
00:28:05,536 --> 00:28:08,256
Speaker 2: But let's do Dak, and let's do Lamar, and let's

610
00:28:08,256 --> 00:28:13,656
Speaker 2: do Josh Allen. Like all three of these guys theoretically

611
00:28:13,776 --> 00:28:15,416
Speaker 2: needs something to happen this year, right.

612
00:28:17,296 --> 00:28:20,336
Speaker 4: Sure, Well, what do you mean by Lamar needs something

613
00:28:20,336 --> 00:28:20,696
Speaker 4: to happen?

614
00:28:20,776 --> 00:28:23,255
Speaker 2: Can't win to the playoffs? Josh Allen can't be Mahomes

615
00:28:23,296 --> 00:28:26,496
Speaker 2: and Dak can't can't win. I can't, Like they all

616
00:28:26,536 --> 00:28:30,296
Speaker 2: have different, different villains, like different bosses they need to beat.

617
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Speaker 6: I know, it really reminds me of the Jordan era,

618
00:28:34,896 --> 00:28:38,176
Speaker 6: you know, Eastern Conference teams or even the Lebron era

619
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Speaker 6: Eastern Conference NBA teams, where it's like, I don't know

620
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Speaker 6: how much better Josh Allen and Lamar Jackson can be

621
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Speaker 6: on a week to week basis, Like they are clearly

622
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Speaker 6: the top three quarterbacks in the league along with with

623
00:28:50,136 --> 00:28:52,856
Speaker 6: Mahomes and things just got a break right that they're

624
00:28:52,856 --> 00:28:54,376
Speaker 6: doing it the right way, which is getting back to

625
00:28:54,416 --> 00:28:57,056
Speaker 6: that spot each and every year. But their offenses were

626
00:28:57,096 --> 00:28:59,536
Speaker 6: dominant last year, way better than the Chiefs, So I

627
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Speaker 6: just think they have to keep knocking out on the

628
00:29:00,816 --> 00:29:02,976
Speaker 6: door Dak's in a different position where he makes more

629
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Speaker 6: money than all of them because the.

630
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Speaker 4: Cowboys blew that negotiation.

631
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Speaker 6: He's coming off a second serious injury, and he's got

632
00:29:10,336 --> 00:29:13,256
Speaker 6: the focus of really the entire country because they are

633
00:29:13,336 --> 00:29:15,576
Speaker 6: the team that gets the most attention. And it's an

634
00:29:15,576 --> 00:29:19,136
Speaker 6: interesting part of his career with a young offensive line

635
00:29:19,136 --> 00:29:21,256
Speaker 6: that there is a lot of heat on them. I

636
00:29:21,296 --> 00:29:24,336
Speaker 6: think with Alan and Lamar, like, if they keep getting

637
00:29:24,376 --> 00:29:27,256
Speaker 6: back to that point, eventually they will break through.

638
00:29:27,296 --> 00:29:29,176
Speaker 4: That's just what sports usually tells us.

639
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Speaker 3: What do you think about the NFL and the pushback

640
00:29:32,416 --> 00:29:35,576
Speaker 3: they're getting a little bit about the flag football being

641
00:29:35,616 --> 00:29:38,376
Speaker 3: part of the Olympics and allowing players to play. You

642
00:29:38,416 --> 00:29:41,416
Speaker 3: hear a lot of different opinions about it in terms of,

643
00:29:41,896 --> 00:29:44,456
Speaker 3: you know, potential injury, this, that and the other. But

644
00:29:44,616 --> 00:29:46,496
Speaker 3: what do you think the stance is right now in

645
00:29:46,536 --> 00:29:47,575
Speaker 3: the field for the NFL.

646
00:29:48,576 --> 00:29:51,936
Speaker 6: Yeah, it seems like they're open to letting some players.

647
00:29:51,936 --> 00:29:54,016
Speaker 6: I want to see the details. I have no idea

648
00:29:54,056 --> 00:29:56,896
Speaker 6: how this is going to go. I guess it's a

649
00:29:56,976 --> 00:29:59,016
Speaker 6: question of what matters more to you if you're in

650
00:29:59,096 --> 00:30:03,576
Speaker 6: the NFL growing the game in terms of flag football.

651
00:30:03,176 --> 00:30:05,656
Speaker 4: And getting that gold medal, which you.

652
00:30:05,616 --> 00:30:06,976
Speaker 6: Know, I would think they would be able to get

653
00:30:06,976 --> 00:30:10,536
Speaker 6: without the super duper stars or or risking the injuries

654
00:30:10,536 --> 00:30:13,296
Speaker 6: of those players. Like to me, let let them play

655
00:30:13,336 --> 00:30:15,256
Speaker 6: if they if they really want to play. But I

656
00:30:15,656 --> 00:30:17,256
Speaker 6: you know, team owners might feel differently.

657
00:30:17,616 --> 00:30:20,896
Speaker 2: Maybe they And I guess it's all scheduled because Baseball

658
00:30:21,336 --> 00:30:27,056
Speaker 2: would let their guys play in the Olympics, the World Championships,

659
00:30:27,616 --> 00:30:30,456
Speaker 2: you know, and injuries weren't really a concern. I think

660
00:30:30,496 --> 00:30:33,056
Speaker 2: we only saw one guy even halfway get hurt. So

661
00:30:33,536 --> 00:30:36,815
Speaker 2: do you think they're worried more about injuries and just

662
00:30:36,856 --> 00:30:39,616
Speaker 2: not saying it than they Like, I'm just confused on

663
00:30:39,616 --> 00:30:41,896
Speaker 2: the flag football thing and what really is the issue here?

664
00:30:42,936 --> 00:30:43,576
Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't.

665
00:30:43,816 --> 00:30:46,936
Speaker 6: I don't really know either, Like and are those players

666
00:30:46,976 --> 00:30:50,536
Speaker 6: necessarily gonna be the best options, like if they trained

667
00:30:50,536 --> 00:30:53,296
Speaker 6: for it, sure, but I don't the skill sets to me,

668
00:30:53,776 --> 00:30:55,496
Speaker 6: would be different. First of all, you got to kind

669
00:30:55,496 --> 00:30:59,576
Speaker 6: of learn flag and then you know the players that excelled,

670
00:30:59,856 --> 00:31:02,336
Speaker 6: You know, some of those shifty slot receivers you played

671
00:31:02,336 --> 00:31:05,096
Speaker 6: with more than a few, Matt, like the guys who

672
00:31:05,136 --> 00:31:08,296
Speaker 6: domin and eight in padless practice early in training, Kip, like,

673
00:31:08,336 --> 00:31:09,575
Speaker 6: those are the guys that are gonna be awesome in

674
00:31:09,576 --> 00:31:11,496
Speaker 6: flag football. I would love to see it. It's here

675
00:31:11,576 --> 00:31:13,776
Speaker 6: in LA. I'd love to go. Maybe the NFL will

676
00:31:13,816 --> 00:31:14,096
Speaker 6: send me.

677
00:31:14,536 --> 00:31:14,936
Speaker 2: I don't know.

678
00:31:15,056 --> 00:31:18,416
Speaker 3: Maybe the NFL is just worried that God forbid we

679
00:31:18,456 --> 00:31:21,496
Speaker 3: send Lamar Jackson Tyree kill all these guys out there

680
00:31:21,776 --> 00:31:22,936
Speaker 3: and just get drummed.

681
00:31:23,416 --> 00:31:26,536
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, you say your best and you go and

682
00:31:26,616 --> 00:31:27,816
Speaker 2: just get drummed by Poland.

683
00:31:27,976 --> 00:31:28,216
Speaker 5: Yeah.

684
00:31:28,496 --> 00:31:31,536
Speaker 2: Oh, that would be humiliating the sport we inventor and

685
00:31:31,576 --> 00:31:33,656
Speaker 2: we're really the only ones that play it. It's now

686
00:31:33,656 --> 00:31:51,576
Speaker 2: an Olympic sport and we don't win. Aaron Rodgers, I

687
00:31:51,616 --> 00:31:52,776
Speaker 2: don't know dot dot diet.

688
00:31:54,336 --> 00:31:57,536
Speaker 6: Yeah, I expect him to be a Pittsburgh Steeler sooner

689
00:31:57,576 --> 00:31:59,456
Speaker 6: than later. I think he just wanted to skip this

690
00:31:59,496 --> 00:32:01,336
Speaker 6: part of the offseason or there's something going on with

691
00:32:01,376 --> 00:32:04,896
Speaker 6: him personally. But the the person who's spoken with most

692
00:32:05,416 --> 00:32:07,776
Speaker 6: clarity and this whole process is Art Ruiney, the owner.

693
00:32:07,816 --> 00:32:10,096
Speaker 6: He keeps saying what no everyone else seems to be

694
00:32:10,136 --> 00:32:12,656
Speaker 6: afraid to, which is just like, yeah, we totally expect

695
00:32:12,696 --> 00:32:14,336
Speaker 6: Aaron Rodgers to be on the team, Like he's gonna

696
00:32:14,336 --> 00:32:16,656
Speaker 6: be on the team. He said that multiple times in

697
00:32:16,696 --> 00:32:19,256
Speaker 6: front of a microphone. So I think they must have

698
00:32:19,336 --> 00:32:22,416
Speaker 6: some assurances that it's gonna happen eventually, and for whatever reason,

699
00:32:22,936 --> 00:32:25,536
Speaker 6: it's not happening yet, but I'm not too worried about

700
00:32:25,536 --> 00:32:28,456
Speaker 6: It does make them more interesting this year, certainly than

701
00:32:28,456 --> 00:32:30,616
Speaker 6: I if Mason Rudolph was their Week one starter.

702
00:32:31,096 --> 00:32:33,176
Speaker 3: All right, Greg, I also know you're a huge tennis fan.

703
00:32:33,336 --> 00:32:37,456
Speaker 3: Who's your all time great man, greatest tennis player? And

704
00:32:37,496 --> 00:32:38,936
Speaker 3: also what are your thoughts on pickleball?

705
00:32:41,976 --> 00:32:44,776
Speaker 6: It's a great question. I mean, who's my favorite? I

706
00:32:44,776 --> 00:32:48,335
Speaker 6: mean I was a Federer guy. Ultimately, I think it's

707
00:32:48,416 --> 00:32:50,376
Speaker 6: not just about like Grand slams that you want, It's

708
00:32:50,416 --> 00:32:52,936
Speaker 6: just like who is the absolute best at their absolute best.

709
00:32:53,056 --> 00:32:55,616
Speaker 6: I was a Kanie Shakory fan. He's still playing, actually,

710
00:32:55,696 --> 00:32:58,256
Speaker 6: just as a shorter guy myself who plays tennis. And

711
00:32:58,296 --> 00:33:01,056
Speaker 6: I know you're a big pickleball guy, Bobby, So I

712
00:33:01,136 --> 00:33:03,696
Speaker 6: kind of want to hear you because I need you

713
00:33:03,816 --> 00:33:06,456
Speaker 6: to humanize pickleball for me, because I feel like my

714
00:33:06,616 --> 00:33:10,056
Speaker 6: interactions with the pickleball community out here in LA have

715
00:33:10,256 --> 00:33:13,176
Speaker 6: been negative and I need you know it hasn't shinned

716
00:33:13,216 --> 00:33:15,296
Speaker 6: a good light on the pickleballers out there.

717
00:33:15,376 --> 00:33:17,896
Speaker 2: So I'm gonna compare the pickleball community to the CrossFit

718
00:33:17,936 --> 00:33:21,776
Speaker 2: community as far as as the community because they won't

719
00:33:21,776 --> 00:33:23,936
Speaker 2: shut up, Like, shut up, you don't have to tell

720
00:33:24,016 --> 00:33:25,536
Speaker 2: us all the time, you don't have to talk about

721
00:33:25,576 --> 00:33:28,096
Speaker 2: your so and I play and I get annoyed with him.

722
00:33:28,136 --> 00:33:29,936
Speaker 2: I also love to go to TikTok and watch people

723
00:33:29,976 --> 00:33:32,496
Speaker 2: comment on how it's not a sport. Yeah, is it?

724
00:33:32,496 --> 00:33:34,976
Speaker 2: It's fun. It's difficult. It's as difficult as you want

725
00:33:34,976 --> 00:33:37,016
Speaker 2: to make it. One of my best friends was a

726
00:33:37,096 --> 00:33:38,816
Speaker 2: number one in the world tennis player, and he makes

727
00:33:38,816 --> 00:33:42,016
Speaker 2: fun of pickleball constantly, but he also will admit that, yeah,

728
00:33:42,096 --> 00:33:44,656
Speaker 2: it's it's pretty difficult. So I'm not somebody who's gonna

729
00:33:44,656 --> 00:33:47,456
Speaker 2: fight you over pickleball because tennis is by far, like

730
00:33:47,496 --> 00:33:50,096
Speaker 2: it is so much harder, no doubt about it. It's

731
00:33:50,096 --> 00:33:53,855
Speaker 2: why the best tennis players are the best pickleball players. Right.

732
00:33:53,856 --> 00:33:55,696
Speaker 2: It's like guys coming out of college going well, I've

733
00:33:55,736 --> 00:33:57,336
Speaker 2: kind of maxed out my tennis career, so let me

734
00:33:57,376 --> 00:34:00,416
Speaker 2: go and dominate pickleball. Do I love playing pickleball? I'm

735
00:34:00,416 --> 00:34:03,575
Speaker 2: meddled hey medal in tournament this weekend. But yes, but

736
00:34:03,736 --> 00:34:06,576
Speaker 2: I'm not going to act like I could also hop

737
00:34:06,616 --> 00:34:08,616
Speaker 2: into a tennis tournament. I used to get the best

738
00:34:08,656 --> 00:34:10,736
Speaker 2: tennis equipment for free, all of it. I get all

739
00:34:10,776 --> 00:34:13,656
Speaker 2: the lacst I wanted, I'll get all the babble law all.

740
00:34:13,736 --> 00:34:16,176
Speaker 2: I don't even know what they were best rackets, and

741
00:34:16,256 --> 00:34:19,936
Speaker 2: I sucked, and I never got better than slightly above suck.

742
00:34:20,136 --> 00:34:22,416
Speaker 2: I got to pick a ball in like two weeks, Greg.

743
00:34:22,456 --> 00:34:24,256
Speaker 2: So I'm gonna be honest with you. It's a lot easier.

744
00:34:25,656 --> 00:34:27,616
Speaker 4: Wait, who's your friend Ronicky Rodick?

745
00:34:27,696 --> 00:34:33,416
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, Rodick was talking. Yeah, that's amazing.

746
00:34:33,456 --> 00:34:35,736
Speaker 6: See, my thing was, I'm going out to the public

747
00:34:35,776 --> 00:34:39,336
Speaker 6: courts here with my son out in California, and when

748
00:34:39,336 --> 00:34:43,176
Speaker 6: the pickleball thing happened, like they swarmed and they just

749
00:34:43,216 --> 00:34:45,496
Speaker 6: weren't cool about it. They'd just be like dropping all

750
00:34:45,536 --> 00:34:48,616
Speaker 6: their equipment on the court, public courts and being like, no,

751
00:34:48,736 --> 00:34:50,855
Speaker 6: we've got these, And I was like, they're public courts.

752
00:34:50,856 --> 00:34:52,216
Speaker 6: There's those such thing as got the He's like, no,

753
00:34:52,296 --> 00:34:54,576
Speaker 6: we're starting like forty five minutes, like that's not how

754
00:34:54,616 --> 00:34:56,416
Speaker 6: it works. And they're trying to like kick kick me

755
00:34:56,456 --> 00:34:58,815
Speaker 6: and my son off and like that happened multiple times.

756
00:34:58,816 --> 00:35:01,856
Speaker 4: I was like, you know, there's enough courts here for everyone,

757
00:35:01,896 --> 00:35:02,216
Speaker 4: that's all.

758
00:35:02,456 --> 00:35:04,656
Speaker 2: I think that the bad taste in your mouth is

759
00:35:05,136 --> 00:35:09,336
Speaker 2: it's deserved because they are quite obnoxious with the battle

760
00:35:09,416 --> 00:35:12,336
Speaker 2: over how how tough the sport is. But anything can

761
00:35:12,376 --> 00:35:14,216
Speaker 2: be hard if you try hard enough at it. But

762
00:35:14,296 --> 00:35:17,416
Speaker 2: you no, No, it's pickleball the community. And I own

763
00:35:17,496 --> 00:35:20,216
Speaker 2: part of a professional pickleball team, so like, I couldn't wow,

764
00:35:20,336 --> 00:35:24,456
Speaker 2: I couldn't be anymore in yet yet I will say, Greg,

765
00:35:24,496 --> 00:35:27,136
Speaker 2: you're right. Greg, You're right about that type of person,

766
00:35:27,456 --> 00:35:31,176
Speaker 2: and they're everywhere, and I also don't get along with them.

767
00:35:31,256 --> 00:35:33,736
Speaker 2: So I do you still play tennis a lot?

768
00:35:34,896 --> 00:35:36,936
Speaker 4: Uh? Not really. I play with my son.

769
00:35:36,976 --> 00:35:38,815
Speaker 6: He's getting better and better, so there is a point

770
00:35:38,816 --> 00:35:40,296
Speaker 6: where he's going to just be better than me.

771
00:35:40,376 --> 00:35:42,256
Speaker 4: But that that's mostly when I play, not with other

772
00:35:42,696 --> 00:35:44,416
Speaker 4: adults as much. But some of my good friends are

773
00:35:44,416 --> 00:35:46,815
Speaker 4: pickleballers too, so I know it's cool. I know it's fine.

774
00:35:47,256 --> 00:35:49,456
Speaker 2: Okay. I hate to get off pickleball because I could

775
00:35:49,456 --> 00:35:51,576
Speaker 2: do this for an hour, but I got like two.

776
00:35:51,696 --> 00:35:54,096
Speaker 2: I have like at least three other things I want

777
00:35:54,136 --> 00:35:57,376
Speaker 2: to get into. And first Caleb in Chicago, he was

778
00:35:57,456 --> 00:36:00,336
Speaker 2: watching film apparently by himself, crying in the treehouse. I'm

779
00:36:00,376 --> 00:36:02,936
Speaker 2: not sure what was happening with him in Chicago, But

780
00:36:03,416 --> 00:36:06,056
Speaker 2: and then Kurt Warner had a really interesting perspective on like, Hey,

781
00:36:06,096 --> 00:36:07,576
Speaker 2: they teach you how to watch film, but you don't

782
00:36:07,576 --> 00:36:10,976
Speaker 2: need somebody holding your hand the whole time. What do

783
00:36:11,016 --> 00:36:12,096
Speaker 2: you feel about this situation?

784
00:36:13,936 --> 00:36:18,456
Speaker 6: That was so fascinating that he was that open with

785
00:36:18,896 --> 00:36:21,815
Speaker 6: a writer who was doing a book, so it wasn't

786
00:36:21,816 --> 00:36:25,696
Speaker 6: something that was coming out right away. And I don't

787
00:36:25,736 --> 00:36:28,296
Speaker 6: doubt that that was a bad fit for him. Shane

788
00:36:28,336 --> 00:36:31,376
Speaker 6: Waldron and Matt I Refluse. You just look at the

789
00:36:31,416 --> 00:36:34,056
Speaker 6: way the Bears have run offense for a handful of years.

790
00:36:34,056 --> 00:36:34,696
Speaker 4: It was a bad fit.

791
00:36:35,536 --> 00:36:39,776
Speaker 6: But him being as open and honest about man, they

792
00:36:40,176 --> 00:36:41,896
Speaker 6: thought they didn't even want to go to Chicago, that

793
00:36:41,896 --> 00:36:43,336
Speaker 6: they were going to try to burn the city and

794
00:36:43,376 --> 00:36:45,376
Speaker 6: all this stuff like before it happened, and then he

795
00:36:45,456 --> 00:36:48,656
Speaker 6: changed his mind and everything. It's one of those things

796
00:36:48,696 --> 00:36:51,016
Speaker 6: where we want our athletes to be honest. So I

797
00:36:51,016 --> 00:36:53,376
Speaker 6: think that's cool that he did that, but it's also

798
00:36:53,416 --> 00:36:55,896
Speaker 6: probably going to be a lesson for him that, Like

799
00:36:56,336 --> 00:36:58,096
Speaker 6: I'm not going to be that open and honest with

800
00:36:58,136 --> 00:37:00,656
Speaker 6: the writer in the future, and he ended up giving

801
00:37:00,936 --> 00:37:02,856
Speaker 6: this book a good plug.

802
00:37:03,536 --> 00:37:07,416
Speaker 2: Yeah, one other question about that story and that part

803
00:37:07,456 --> 00:37:10,896
Speaker 2: of the book. Yeah, you know, if you read the excerpt,

804
00:37:10,936 --> 00:37:13,496
Speaker 2: which I just read the excerpt, it was that Eberflows

805
00:37:13,656 --> 00:37:14,976
Speaker 2: they were on their way out. They knew they were

806
00:37:14,976 --> 00:37:17,136
Speaker 2: on their way out, so they just checked out. I

807
00:37:17,216 --> 00:37:19,656
Speaker 2: find that not to be common in any part of life.

808
00:37:19,696 --> 00:37:22,176
Speaker 2: Whenever you want to stay in the same industry, you

809
00:37:22,256 --> 00:37:24,176
Speaker 2: don't just check out with a month to go, even

810
00:37:24,216 --> 00:37:26,856
Speaker 2: if it's going horribly, because you want to remain in

811
00:37:26,856 --> 00:37:30,656
Speaker 2: the industry. And owners, general managers not only do they talk.

812
00:37:30,856 --> 00:37:32,576
Speaker 2: It's a very incestual world.

813
00:37:34,176 --> 00:37:38,456
Speaker 6: Yeah, it's it's it's funny because they were right, Caleb

814
00:37:38,496 --> 00:37:40,856
Speaker 6: Williams and his father, it was a bad situation to

815
00:37:40,896 --> 00:37:43,416
Speaker 6: go to. Everything that happened showed it. You know, the

816
00:37:43,496 --> 00:37:46,336
Speaker 6: offensive coordinator that they had doubts about, he got fired

817
00:37:46,576 --> 00:37:49,216
Speaker 6: before halfway through the season. If I'm remembering right, he

818
00:37:49,256 --> 00:37:51,536
Speaker 6: definitely didn't make it to the end, and so they

819
00:37:51,536 --> 00:37:53,216
Speaker 6: were right about that. But you got to try to

820
00:37:53,256 --> 00:37:56,656
Speaker 6: make the best of that situation. But it is the Bears,

821
00:37:56,816 --> 00:37:59,136
Speaker 6: you know, in the defense of the Williams is like

822
00:37:59,776 --> 00:38:02,136
Speaker 6: thing that they've done again and again and again and again,

823
00:38:02,176 --> 00:38:04,816
Speaker 6: which is that the coach and the GM aren't aligned,

824
00:38:04,856 --> 00:38:07,216
Speaker 6: that won is hired and the other is fired, and

825
00:38:07,216 --> 00:38:08,976
Speaker 6: then they're not on the same page. And you do

826
00:38:09,016 --> 00:38:11,416
Speaker 6: get a feeling with Ben Johnson coming in here hopefully

827
00:38:11,976 --> 00:38:15,696
Speaker 6: that it's really his show, and he's quarterback first, and

828
00:38:15,736 --> 00:38:19,656
Speaker 6: he's building up the offense. So I'm usually skeptical of

829
00:38:19,696 --> 00:38:23,096
Speaker 6: all the Bears optimism. I faded them on my podcast

830
00:38:23,176 --> 00:38:25,576
Speaker 6: three straight years when we do the over unders. Before

831
00:38:25,616 --> 00:38:27,496
Speaker 6: this year, I'm like, there's way too much hype about

832
00:38:27,496 --> 00:38:29,456
Speaker 6: this team. I'm kind of buying in this year that

833
00:38:29,456 --> 00:38:31,456
Speaker 6: at least Ben Johnson's the right guy I think to

834
00:38:31,496 --> 00:38:32,176
Speaker 6: turn this around.

835
00:38:32,296 --> 00:38:33,856
Speaker 3: I was gonna say, because when you look at what

836
00:38:33,896 --> 00:38:36,616
Speaker 3: they did in the draft of Colson Lovelin, Luthor Bird,

837
00:38:36,656 --> 00:38:39,776
Speaker 3: and the Third they brought more personnel in for that

838
00:38:39,856 --> 00:38:42,136
Speaker 3: offense to surround Caleb Williams. Do you think this is

839
00:38:42,176 --> 00:38:45,576
Speaker 3: a situation for him? I do, But do you think

840
00:38:45,616 --> 00:38:47,216
Speaker 3: this is a situation where he's going to make a

841
00:38:47,216 --> 00:38:50,856
Speaker 3: significant jump from this first year, which was chaotic, to

842
00:38:50,976 --> 00:38:51,656
Speaker 3: the second year?

843
00:38:52,856 --> 00:38:55,456
Speaker 6: Yes, I do, And that's that's the year you see

844
00:38:55,456 --> 00:38:58,776
Speaker 6: the biggest jump, especially with quarterbacks, used to be that

845
00:38:58,816 --> 00:39:01,016
Speaker 6: way late lately, like they've been coming out of college

846
00:39:01,096 --> 00:39:03,616
Speaker 6: more ready to go the great ones like c J.

847
00:39:03,696 --> 00:39:05,576
Speaker 4: Stroud and Jayden and Daniels and their rookie ye.

848
00:39:05,776 --> 00:39:08,336
Speaker 6: But I do think coaching makes such a difference, and

849
00:39:08,656 --> 00:39:10,256
Speaker 6: I just think they're going to focus on what he

850
00:39:10,816 --> 00:39:13,216
Speaker 6: can do well, and we know that Caleb Williams has

851
00:39:13,216 --> 00:39:15,736
Speaker 6: a lot of strength, and not ask him to do

852
00:39:15,816 --> 00:39:17,936
Speaker 6: things that he can't do well. And the offensive line

853
00:39:17,936 --> 00:39:20,336
Speaker 6: just on paper, they just gave Joe Toney this new contract,

854
00:39:20,616 --> 00:39:23,736
Speaker 6: and they drafted at the position, and they obviously got

855
00:39:23,736 --> 00:39:25,736
Speaker 6: a guy in free agency, Drew Doloman at center. Just

856
00:39:26,016 --> 00:39:28,696
Speaker 6: everything around him seems like it's in such better shape

857
00:39:28,696 --> 00:39:31,256
Speaker 6: that he's not gonna have to be a hero to

858
00:39:31,336 --> 00:39:33,816
Speaker 6: be a good quarterback, And to me, that'd be a

859
00:39:33,816 --> 00:39:35,296
Speaker 6: big step up. He's just got to get the ball

860
00:39:35,336 --> 00:39:36,416
Speaker 6: out of his hand a little faster.

861
00:39:36,496 --> 00:39:38,896
Speaker 2: I want to ask one more quarterback question, and it

862
00:39:38,936 --> 00:39:41,096
Speaker 2: has to do with the Saints, and I don't know

863
00:39:41,336 --> 00:39:43,096
Speaker 2: who's gonna play quarterback there Are they even gonna have

864
00:39:43,096 --> 00:39:43,696
Speaker 2: a quarterback?

865
00:39:45,296 --> 00:39:48,256
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think it's Tyler Shuck. Look, he's their guy.

866
00:39:48,456 --> 00:39:51,616
Speaker 6: He is a really unique prospect in that he's twenty

867
00:39:51,656 --> 00:39:54,016
Speaker 6: six years old, but he didn't play that much in

868
00:39:54,056 --> 00:39:55,416
Speaker 6: college because he was always hurt.

869
00:39:55,496 --> 00:39:57,856
Speaker 4: So those are pretty big red flags for me.

870
00:39:59,136 --> 00:40:04,496
Speaker 6: On paper, he is really talented and like can throw

871
00:40:04,656 --> 00:40:07,816
Speaker 6: everything that you want to do and move well, and

872
00:40:07,856 --> 00:40:09,456
Speaker 6: I get why they were into him, and he's the

873
00:40:09,456 --> 00:40:11,136
Speaker 6: guy that Kellen Moore wanted. I don't really know what

874
00:40:11,216 --> 00:40:13,536
Speaker 6: Kellen Moore has done since he's gotten there other than

875
00:40:13,576 --> 00:40:15,536
Speaker 6: say I want Tyler Shuck.

876
00:40:15,616 --> 00:40:17,056
Speaker 4: So I got to assume he's going to be the

877
00:40:17,056 --> 00:40:17,856
Speaker 4: starter week one.

878
00:40:18,776 --> 00:40:21,696
Speaker 3: I mean, with everything, you've covered the NFL for a

879
00:40:21,696 --> 00:40:24,776
Speaker 3: really long time, right, and what are some significant changes

880
00:40:24,776 --> 00:40:27,296
Speaker 3: that you've seen over time, both on and off the

881
00:40:27,336 --> 00:40:30,056
Speaker 3: field that you look at our game now and it's

882
00:40:30,256 --> 00:40:32,096
Speaker 3: much better, much worse, whatever it might be.

883
00:40:32,656 --> 00:40:32,936
Speaker 4: Hmmm.

884
00:40:33,656 --> 00:40:37,496
Speaker 6: That's interesting because now I have the quarterbacks in my

885
00:40:37,576 --> 00:40:40,736
Speaker 6: head and the way that I think the skill position

886
00:40:40,856 --> 00:40:43,976
Speaker 6: players like quarterback and wide receiver especially come into the league.

887
00:40:44,216 --> 00:40:46,776
Speaker 6: They come into the league ready to go in a

888
00:40:46,816 --> 00:40:48,856
Speaker 6: way that I think the NFL has kind of met

889
00:40:48,936 --> 00:40:51,616
Speaker 6: college where it is and adapting a lot of what

890
00:40:51,776 --> 00:40:55,696
Speaker 6: they do well, but the other thing that goes along

891
00:40:55,736 --> 00:40:59,376
Speaker 6: with that is that the NFL, and you know this, Matt,

892
00:40:59,456 --> 00:41:03,416
Speaker 6: like how different offseason practices are compared to even twenty

893
00:41:03,496 --> 00:41:07,176
Speaker 6: years ago. It's crazy that it really feels like September

894
00:41:07,216 --> 00:41:09,416
Speaker 6: and the Patriots were always kind of like this where

895
00:41:09,456 --> 00:41:11,216
Speaker 6: they use the first month of the season to feel

896
00:41:11,216 --> 00:41:11,576
Speaker 6: things out.

897
00:41:11,576 --> 00:41:13,056
Speaker 4: Where's your strength, where's your weekend?

898
00:41:13,456 --> 00:41:16,736
Speaker 6: You talk to coaches now, they like September just seems

899
00:41:16,776 --> 00:41:19,656
Speaker 6: like an extended preseason, and even October and these games

900
00:41:19,776 --> 00:41:22,816
Speaker 6: mean a lot. It feels like September October like they

901
00:41:22,816 --> 00:41:25,456
Speaker 6: are just figuring out what they can do because they

902
00:41:25,496 --> 00:41:28,696
Speaker 6: weren't able to practice in pads and really get to

903
00:41:28,736 --> 00:41:31,616
Speaker 6: know their team and practice the situations as much as

904
00:41:31,616 --> 00:41:32,176
Speaker 6: they used to be.

905
00:41:32,776 --> 00:41:34,496
Speaker 2: What's your day? Like, walk us through what it's like

906
00:41:34,536 --> 00:41:37,696
Speaker 2: for you because we listen, Yeah, we listen almost all

907
00:41:37,736 --> 00:41:41,016
Speaker 2: all days. But what I don't know what's I'm always

908
00:41:41,016 --> 00:41:42,696
Speaker 2: curious about someone's daily routine.

909
00:41:43,456 --> 00:41:46,136
Speaker 6: I mean, it's it's like you, I'm sure I'll though

910
00:41:46,176 --> 00:41:47,856
Speaker 6: you have like four shows proably, I don't know you

911
00:41:48,456 --> 00:41:51,976
Speaker 6: it's prepping. It's it's like the second you finish a show,

912
00:41:52,016 --> 00:41:55,256
Speaker 6: So I just finished in the morning. Uh, you start

913
00:41:55,296 --> 00:41:59,016
Speaker 6: prepping basically and planning and getting everything together for the

914
00:41:59,056 --> 00:42:01,816
Speaker 6: next day show and whether that in the offseason, it's

915
00:42:01,816 --> 00:42:04,096
Speaker 6: definitely not as intense, but like we just did a

916
00:42:04,136 --> 00:42:06,776
Speaker 6: brock Perty episode that was was fun, kind of talking

917
00:42:06,816 --> 00:42:09,576
Speaker 6: about how he I think was worth the money and

918
00:42:09,736 --> 00:42:12,296
Speaker 6: helps like explain how quarterbacks are paid and stuff. So

919
00:42:12,296 --> 00:42:14,336
Speaker 6: it's kind of going through all the numbers with Perty

920
00:42:14,376 --> 00:42:16,536
Speaker 6: but also going through the tape. But I always just

921
00:42:16,656 --> 00:42:18,776
Speaker 6: enjoy watching the game so that you can, you know,

922
00:42:18,816 --> 00:42:20,976
Speaker 6: as much as you're talking about and like getting ready

923
00:42:20,976 --> 00:42:22,536
Speaker 6: for the next show and then then you do it

924
00:42:22,576 --> 00:42:23,176
Speaker 6: all over again.

925
00:42:23,216 --> 00:42:24,335
Speaker 2: What time do you wake up in the morning.

926
00:42:25,536 --> 00:42:27,776
Speaker 4: Uh, well, I have kids, so I'm now like a

927
00:42:27,856 --> 00:42:29,856
Speaker 4: six fifteen, six thirty eighth.

928
00:42:29,936 --> 00:42:31,736
Speaker 3: You gotta get up before you gotta get up before that.

929
00:42:31,816 --> 00:42:33,616
Speaker 3: I tell you, I've got five and I'm a five

930
00:42:33,696 --> 00:42:37,576
Speaker 3: thirty guy. You got you gotta take a breath before they,

931
00:42:37,696 --> 00:42:38,216
Speaker 3: Oh you're.

932
00:42:38,096 --> 00:42:40,856
Speaker 2: Saying, wake up before they Oh yeah, yeah you can.

933
00:42:41,536 --> 00:42:42,176
Speaker 2: I'm doing up.

934
00:42:42,576 --> 00:42:44,336
Speaker 6: I'm not beating my son though. He's up at like

935
00:42:44,416 --> 00:42:46,736
Speaker 6: five forty five, five fifty every morning. I hear him

936
00:42:46,736 --> 00:42:49,096
Speaker 6: downstairs already, so I can't beat him.

937
00:42:49,136 --> 00:42:49,896
Speaker 4: For whatever reason.

938
00:42:50,136 --> 00:42:51,416
Speaker 2: And then what time do you get to check out

939
00:42:51,416 --> 00:42:52,176
Speaker 2: of the NFL office.

940
00:42:53,416 --> 00:42:56,096
Speaker 4: Uh, I mean I'm not here every day in the offseason.

941
00:42:56,176 --> 00:42:58,616
Speaker 6: It really depends in the season, and you know, we're

942
00:42:58,656 --> 00:43:00,896
Speaker 6: here through every game and then we do a show

943
00:43:01,376 --> 00:43:04,736
Speaker 6: after the late game, and so those are late nights

944
00:43:04,736 --> 00:43:06,576
Speaker 6: getting out of here ten pm. But that is one

945
00:43:06,616 --> 00:43:10,016
Speaker 6: of the best things about living on the West Coast.

946
00:43:10,016 --> 00:43:12,936
Speaker 6: I mean, the weather is great, but to me, sports

947
00:43:13,296 --> 00:43:15,096
Speaker 6: and I know you guys are East Coast guys, but like,

948
00:43:15,136 --> 00:43:17,256
Speaker 6: to me, sports are just so much better on the

949
00:43:17,256 --> 00:43:19,776
Speaker 6: West Coast, and working in sports is so much better

950
00:43:20,056 --> 00:43:21,696
Speaker 6: on the West Coast because you don't have those one

951
00:43:21,736 --> 00:43:23,656
Speaker 6: am days that I used to have on the East Coast.

952
00:43:23,656 --> 00:43:24,856
Speaker 4: At least it's like ten pm.

953
00:43:24,936 --> 00:43:27,855
Speaker 2: Yeah, I guess the problem because the weather's great, tax

954
00:43:27,976 --> 00:43:33,496
Speaker 2: is not great. Television, watching live television great, right, everything's

955
00:43:33,536 --> 00:43:35,376
Speaker 2: on earlier. But I think the thing that will be

956
00:43:35,376 --> 00:43:38,016
Speaker 2: difficult for me since my morning radio show is like

957
00:43:38,336 --> 00:43:40,656
Speaker 2: a syndicated show, I'd have to start at three eight,

958
00:43:40,736 --> 00:43:42,096
Speaker 2: like when I was out there living for Dancing with

959
00:43:42,136 --> 00:43:43,656
Speaker 2: the Stars. Because I'm not out there for like three months,

960
00:43:44,056 --> 00:43:46,976
Speaker 2: I had just start at three am, which because I

961
00:43:47,016 --> 00:43:48,616
Speaker 2: had to be on there on like Boston and all

962
00:43:48,616 --> 00:43:51,136
Speaker 2: those East Coast markets, like I think that would be

963
00:43:51,296 --> 00:43:54,136
Speaker 2: the tortuous thing about living out there full time. That'd

964
00:43:54,176 --> 00:43:56,016
Speaker 2: be brutal. And traffic because I'm always carsick. Are you

965
00:43:56,096 --> 00:43:56,936
Speaker 2: not always carsick?

966
00:43:57,176 --> 00:44:02,256
Speaker 6: Greg, I'm not carsick. The traffic, you know, you learn

967
00:44:02,336 --> 00:44:04,536
Speaker 6: to manage, you learn to work around it. I've never

968
00:44:04,576 --> 00:44:07,496
Speaker 6: had a situation where right to like drive through crazy

969
00:44:07,536 --> 00:44:08,815
Speaker 6: traffic to get to work or whatever.

970
00:44:08,856 --> 00:44:10,816
Speaker 4: So you just you just know what to avoid. But

971
00:44:10,856 --> 00:44:12,936
Speaker 4: you're right. They take Good Morning Football here.

972
00:44:13,616 --> 00:44:16,136
Speaker 6: My friend Colleen Wolf was hosting it today and she

973
00:44:16,336 --> 00:44:18,616
Speaker 6: was here at three in the morning. So I'm glad.

974
00:44:18,656 --> 00:44:22,256
Speaker 6: I'm just I'm just a lowly podcast host. My advice,

975
00:44:22,336 --> 00:44:23,816
Speaker 6: you know, yeah, do podcasts.

976
00:44:23,856 --> 00:44:25,656
Speaker 4: You can kind of plan it around your schedule at

977
00:44:25,776 --> 00:44:26,815
Speaker 4: least a little better.

978
00:44:26,936 --> 00:44:30,016
Speaker 2: You guys, check out the show NFL Daily. It's NFL

979
00:44:30,096 --> 00:44:34,416
Speaker 2: news analysis, opinion. It's funny. Greg's funny. You guys follow

980
00:44:34,456 --> 00:44:39,016
Speaker 2: them on Instagram and Twitter, Greg g Rosenthal. No, it's

981
00:44:39,056 --> 00:44:41,616
Speaker 2: two g's in your name. Wait, Greg, you're two g Greg.

982
00:44:42,536 --> 00:44:45,256
Speaker 6: That's I mean three totals sixty percent. G holds my

983
00:44:45,296 --> 00:44:46,656
Speaker 6: wrapping up.

984
00:44:47,096 --> 00:44:49,456
Speaker 2: You have to it. So two g's at the end.

985
00:44:49,856 --> 00:44:51,136
Speaker 2: Has that always been misspelled?

986
00:44:52,496 --> 00:44:53,056
Speaker 4: That is?

987
00:44:53,176 --> 00:44:55,096
Speaker 6: That was the way to just like end it? You

988
00:44:55,136 --> 00:44:57,856
Speaker 6: know that that says there's no Gregory here. It's just

989
00:44:57,976 --> 00:45:01,776
Speaker 6: Greg Rosenthal. Is kind of a long name. It's filling

990
00:45:01,856 --> 00:45:04,616
Speaker 6: in a lot of boxes when you're you know, putting

991
00:45:04,616 --> 00:45:05,576
Speaker 6: your license name there.

992
00:45:05,576 --> 00:45:07,656
Speaker 4: So they just wanted to keep it short and tight. Greg.

993
00:45:07,736 --> 00:45:09,936
Speaker 2: All right, well Gregor too. Geez hey, Greg, thanks for

994
00:45:09,936 --> 00:45:12,096
Speaker 2: the time, man. We're big fans and we look forward

995
00:45:12,096 --> 00:45:12,736
Speaker 2: to seeing you again.

996
00:45:13,496 --> 00:45:15,896
Speaker 4: All right, thanks Bobby, Thanks mat Hey, Thanks Greg.

997
00:45:31,296 --> 00:45:33,896
Speaker 2: I want to talk about the Bears, and I want

998
00:45:33,896 --> 00:45:36,296
Speaker 2: to go to you first because the Bears first of all.

999
00:45:36,336 --> 00:45:40,216
Speaker 2: Soldier Field it's awesome, the history, but it kind of sucks.

1000
00:45:40,496 --> 00:45:43,176
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's an iconic place for sure. So like Soldier

1001
00:45:43,176 --> 00:45:47,056
Speaker 3: Field going there, the vibe, the fans themselves are kind

1002
00:45:47,056 --> 00:45:49,536
Speaker 3: of gritty everything, but the field itself.

1003
00:45:49,616 --> 00:45:52,296
Speaker 2: Yes, there's more to be desired amenities not the best,

1004
00:45:52,416 --> 00:45:54,216
Speaker 2: not so much. Yeah, if you were to like go

1005
00:45:54,256 --> 00:45:58,776
Speaker 2: and uh check out its travelosity rating. Probably not high,

1006
00:45:58,816 --> 00:46:01,056
Speaker 2: uncomfortable a bit, and it's also freezing freaking cold in

1007
00:46:01,136 --> 00:46:03,376
Speaker 2: Chicago in the winter, very cold. Did you ever play

1008
00:46:03,376 --> 00:46:05,336
Speaker 2: in Chicago. We did. We played in Chicago.

1009
00:46:07,256 --> 00:46:09,176
Speaker 3: I was with the Tennessee Titans, so it was either

1010
00:46:09,216 --> 00:46:11,256
Speaker 3: sixteen or seventeen that we went there. And it was

1011
00:46:11,296 --> 00:46:15,376
Speaker 3: a cold, damp day. It wasn't wildly cold, it wasn't

1012
00:46:15,456 --> 00:46:18,536
Speaker 3: that time of the year yet. But it's just miserable

1013
00:46:18,576 --> 00:46:21,136
Speaker 3: to play in those conditions, honestly. I mean they have

1014
00:46:21,176 --> 00:46:23,576
Speaker 3: a grass field, which I don't mind. It's better than

1015
00:46:23,576 --> 00:46:25,696
Speaker 3: turf when it gets really cold because of the hits

1016
00:46:25,696 --> 00:46:28,136
Speaker 3: and you when you actually land on the ground, it

1017
00:46:28,176 --> 00:46:30,815
Speaker 3: doesn't hurt as much. But at the same time, as

1018
00:46:30,856 --> 00:46:32,816
Speaker 3: you said, there's more to be desired.

1019
00:46:32,976 --> 00:46:34,816
Speaker 2: So if we were talking about the Bears and I said, hey,

1020
00:46:34,816 --> 00:46:39,016
Speaker 2: they were considering moving into a dome, regardless of where

1021
00:46:39,016 --> 00:46:42,656
Speaker 2: that is. If your Bears fans, is your identity so

1022
00:46:42,856 --> 00:46:45,096
Speaker 2: much the cold that you don't want to go to

1023
00:46:45,096 --> 00:46:47,216
Speaker 2: a dome, or if you're a Bears fan, do you

1024
00:46:47,296 --> 00:46:48,096
Speaker 2: just want to be warmer.

1025
00:46:49,456 --> 00:46:52,896
Speaker 3: I mean, let speak from the heart here. I do

1026
00:46:53,376 --> 00:46:57,176
Speaker 3: give me the dome all day long in Chicago. I mean,

1027
00:46:57,616 --> 00:47:01,376
Speaker 3: players probably are fired up about it. Fans, if you're

1028
00:47:01,456 --> 00:47:04,136
Speaker 3: die hard fans and you love going to games and

1029
00:47:04,136 --> 00:47:07,736
Speaker 3: painting your chests, being that dude that's going to be

1030
00:47:07,776 --> 00:47:10,536
Speaker 3: out there drinking his beer and just loving those elements.

1031
00:47:10,616 --> 00:47:12,256
Speaker 3: They're probably not gonna like it, but you can still

1032
00:47:12,256 --> 00:47:13,896
Speaker 3: take your shirt off in the dome, good point in

1033
00:47:13,976 --> 00:47:16,896
Speaker 3: your chest, drink your beer, your beer, yeah, shower yourself

1034
00:47:16,896 --> 00:47:19,856
Speaker 3: with beer, go for it, and still the same environment,

1035
00:47:20,056 --> 00:47:23,016
Speaker 3: just better overall playing conditions.

1036
00:47:23,216 --> 00:47:26,176
Speaker 2: I would also say, and I say this to Bears

1037
00:47:26,216 --> 00:47:31,216
Speaker 2: fans respectfully, you haven't won a lot, so your identity

1038
00:47:31,256 --> 00:47:34,256
Speaker 2: is not attached to winning in cold where Buffalo is

1039
00:47:34,696 --> 00:47:37,136
Speaker 2: that is definitely let's check a box in favor of

1040
00:47:37,176 --> 00:47:38,576
Speaker 2: the Bills. If you have to go to Buffalo and

1041
00:47:38,576 --> 00:47:42,576
Speaker 2: play in the winter, check that advantage Buffalo. Same thing

1042
00:47:42,576 --> 00:47:46,256
Speaker 2: with the Packers advantage Packers, the Bears haven't won enough

1043
00:47:46,656 --> 00:47:48,856
Speaker 2: to ever go. Yeah, the cold has given us an

1044
00:47:48,896 --> 00:47:52,976
Speaker 2: advantage because they don't have advantages. So I would say

1045
00:47:53,016 --> 00:47:55,176
Speaker 2: their identity is not tied to the cold, even though

1046
00:47:55,176 --> 00:47:59,176
Speaker 2: it's freaking cold in Chicago, right, because that is an advantage.

1047
00:47:59,216 --> 00:48:01,456
Speaker 3: And you think about it with these teams that have

1048
00:48:02,376 --> 00:48:05,976
Speaker 3: open stadiums and the elements, like you just brought up

1049
00:48:06,016 --> 00:48:08,816
Speaker 3: two great teams with Green Bay and who's the other

1050
00:48:08,856 --> 00:48:13,815
Speaker 3: time Buffalo, When you would travel from say Kansas City

1051
00:48:13,936 --> 00:48:16,056
Speaker 3: or somewhere like that that does get cold. But say

1052
00:48:16,056 --> 00:48:17,696
Speaker 3: you're having a hot week and then all of a

1053
00:48:17,736 --> 00:48:20,776
Speaker 3: sudden you go to Buffalo and it is freezing cold.

1054
00:48:21,056 --> 00:48:23,976
Speaker 3: The advantage is for sure the cold team. When Arizona

1055
00:48:24,016 --> 00:48:26,056
Speaker 3: came out and played us in New England, they got

1056
00:48:26,056 --> 00:48:28,336
Speaker 3: off the bus and they might as well just got

1057
00:48:28,336 --> 00:48:30,416
Speaker 3: back on because we beat him by forty points because

1058
00:48:30,456 --> 00:48:33,496
Speaker 3: they're coming from Arizona and that cold stings. It's the

1059
00:48:33,496 --> 00:48:36,976
Speaker 3: same thing for cold teams going down to Miami in

1060
00:48:37,056 --> 00:48:40,456
Speaker 3: November December, when they get that thirty degree change in

1061
00:48:40,496 --> 00:48:43,816
Speaker 3: the heat, it feels like you're out in the desert.

1062
00:48:44,216 --> 00:48:46,496
Speaker 3: And it's an advantage to the Miami Dolphins because they're

1063
00:48:46,496 --> 00:48:49,776
Speaker 3: conditioned to play there. So there is advantages. But like

1064
00:48:49,816 --> 00:48:53,176
Speaker 3: you said, for Chicago, show us the proof where it

1065
00:48:53,216 --> 00:48:57,056
Speaker 3: has been just a major advantage to your organization to

1066
00:48:57,096 --> 00:48:57,696
Speaker 3: play in the cold.

1067
00:48:57,896 --> 00:49:03,536
Speaker 2: Yeah, what advantage respectfully? Respectfully? Yeah, what did Jim McMahon? Yeah,

1068
00:49:03,776 --> 00:49:08,336
Speaker 2: I mean the fridge, Yeah, eighty five. So they have

1069
00:49:09,696 --> 00:49:12,696
Speaker 2: they're considering moving to a dome stadium in Arlington Heights.

1070
00:49:12,736 --> 00:49:14,656
Speaker 2: I had to look up where Arlington Heights was. Yeah,

1071
00:49:14,736 --> 00:49:16,376
Speaker 2: when I saw that, and I was like, no idea

1072
00:49:16,416 --> 00:49:18,056
Speaker 2: where that is. So I'm a massive Cubs fan, but

1073
00:49:18,176 --> 00:49:21,056
Speaker 2: I only know north Side South Side from my Cub's

1074
00:49:21,096 --> 00:49:25,216
Speaker 2: White Sox life of going to those games Olkimiski and

1075
00:49:26,296 --> 00:49:29,576
Speaker 2: new Stadium US Cellular. That's White Sox Field's called. Now

1076
00:49:29,656 --> 00:49:32,056
Speaker 2: I think it's guaranteed rape Field. Oh did I think

1077
00:49:32,056 --> 00:49:34,616
Speaker 2: about that? Guaranteed rate field? Come on down. I won't

1078
00:49:34,656 --> 00:49:36,976
Speaker 2: even say that. I won't even learn the name of

1079
00:49:36,976 --> 00:49:40,616
Speaker 2: the stadium. So, but okay, here's what Arlington Heights is.

1080
00:49:41,616 --> 00:49:44,456
Speaker 2: Arlington Heights Heights is a village in Illinois. First of all,

1081
00:49:44,576 --> 00:49:48,056
Speaker 2: a village. Yeah, is that like? Because is that a thing.

1082
00:49:49,016 --> 00:49:52,016
Speaker 2: I've never even heard an area described as a village.

1083
00:49:52,496 --> 00:49:56,016
Speaker 2: So in Louisiana, they don't have counties, they have parishes.

1084
00:49:56,456 --> 00:49:58,815
Speaker 2: Oh did you know that? No, So the only reason

1085
00:49:58,816 --> 00:50:02,496
Speaker 2: I know that is because you're from Arkansas. Arkansas. Yeah. So,

1086
00:50:03,296 --> 00:50:07,216
Speaker 2: Arlington Heights is a village in Cook County, Illinois, a

1087
00:50:07,336 --> 00:50:10,656
Speaker 2: northwestern suburb of Chicago. It lies about twenty five miles

1088
00:50:10,696 --> 00:50:14,856
Speaker 2: northwest of the city's downtown, so not far. As of

1089
00:50:14,896 --> 00:50:18,016
Speaker 2: the twenty twenty census, the village's population with seventy seven thousand,

1090
00:50:18,096 --> 00:50:20,096
Speaker 2: but it's close enough to Chicago to still be Chicago.

1091
00:50:20,856 --> 00:50:21,056
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1092
00:50:21,096 --> 00:50:25,576
Speaker 3: The village things weird. Village things weird, like tiki huts. Oh,

1093
00:50:25,616 --> 00:50:28,936
Speaker 3: you're right, full like I mean, we're gonna go to

1094
00:50:28,976 --> 00:50:31,576
Speaker 3: a village. I guess I think of a village as

1095
00:50:31,816 --> 00:50:32,856
Speaker 3: like the m Night Shyamalan.

1096
00:50:33,376 --> 00:50:35,296
Speaker 2: You ever said the village? Oh yeah, that's good. That

1097
00:50:35,376 --> 00:50:37,815
Speaker 2: movie was good. I didn't see that. Was it good?

1098
00:50:37,976 --> 00:50:39,656
Speaker 2: I don't want I don't want to say too much

1099
00:50:40,816 --> 00:50:42,736
Speaker 2: twenty years ago, but yeah, yeah, we don't want to spoil it.

1100
00:50:42,736 --> 00:50:44,336
Speaker 2: Those m Night Shamalans to get you in trouble if

1101
00:50:44,376 --> 00:50:47,176
Speaker 2: you talk too much about them. I think the bear

1102
00:50:47,216 --> 00:50:52,336
Speaker 2: should go Dome because they have no reason to for

1103
00:50:52,736 --> 00:50:56,096
Speaker 2: advantage purposes, stay in the cold. I one hundred percent agree.

1104
00:50:56,096 --> 00:50:58,416
Speaker 3: And when you look at the speed that they've acquired

1105
00:50:59,136 --> 00:51:04,056
Speaker 3: at the wide receiver position, young quarterback, obviously they made

1106
00:51:04,056 --> 00:51:06,496
Speaker 3: the upgrades offense so like never packs the offensive line

1107
00:51:06,496 --> 00:51:08,815
Speaker 3: as much as it does, but the skill position, those

1108
00:51:08,816 --> 00:51:10,896
Speaker 3: guys go out there and they have no conditions to

1109
00:51:10,936 --> 00:51:11,336
Speaker 3: deal with.

1110
00:51:11,416 --> 00:51:14,016
Speaker 2: And Caleb Williams no wind.

1111
00:51:13,856 --> 00:51:18,096
Speaker 3: Rain, snow, whatever, that's gonna definitely help him.

1112
00:51:18,616 --> 00:51:22,696
Speaker 2: We talked about it. Briefly with Greg Rosenthal, but Caleb

1113
00:51:22,736 --> 00:51:26,456
Speaker 2: Williams playing quarterback, and he mentions and it kind of

1114
00:51:26,456 --> 00:51:28,815
Speaker 2: comes secondhand, but he's like, yeah, I had to watch

1115
00:51:28,816 --> 00:51:31,816
Speaker 2: film by myself. What was your relationship with film? And

1116
00:51:31,896 --> 00:51:34,296
Speaker 2: did you have a coach sitting with you all the

1117
00:51:34,336 --> 00:51:36,696
Speaker 2: time watching film? Did they teach you how to watch film?

1118
00:51:36,696 --> 00:51:37,136
Speaker 2: What was it?

1119
00:51:37,496 --> 00:51:37,536
Speaker 4: No?

1120
00:51:37,656 --> 00:51:40,096
Speaker 3: I think everybody watches film a little bit differently, to

1121
00:51:40,096 --> 00:51:43,896
Speaker 3: be honest with you, And I think when I first

1122
00:51:43,936 --> 00:51:47,016
Speaker 3: came in the league, I really learned how to watch

1123
00:51:47,056 --> 00:51:51,296
Speaker 3: film because that offseason Josh McDaniels was a stickler for

1124
00:51:51,336 --> 00:51:52,136
Speaker 3: attention to detail.

1125
00:51:52,176 --> 00:51:53,456
Speaker 2: He's very meticulous about it.

1126
00:51:53,856 --> 00:51:56,776
Speaker 3: So we would watch film with a purpose, and it

1127
00:51:56,816 --> 00:52:00,056
Speaker 3: was more just to fundamentally understand what defenses were trying

1128
00:52:00,096 --> 00:52:02,976
Speaker 3: to do. And when I say that, it was if

1129
00:52:03,016 --> 00:52:06,696
Speaker 3: you had we call it a post safety defense. So

1130
00:52:06,736 --> 00:52:09,216
Speaker 3: you got a middle of the field safety one high.

1131
00:52:09,536 --> 00:52:13,176
Speaker 3: But the way in which the defenders on the outside

1132
00:52:14,256 --> 00:52:17,656
Speaker 3: of the defense play, particularly on the slot that Nickel

1133
00:52:17,936 --> 00:52:20,736
Speaker 3: he can carry the seam, he can reroute the guy

1134
00:52:20,776 --> 00:52:23,856
Speaker 3: and play outside. That would make the corner responsible. So

1135
00:52:23,936 --> 00:52:26,856
Speaker 3: every team has these little nuances to their defense. It's

1136
00:52:26,896 --> 00:52:30,216
Speaker 3: still considered cover three, but they change what they do

1137
00:52:30,256 --> 00:52:34,016
Speaker 3: with the underneath coverage, also with the guys from behind.

1138
00:52:34,136 --> 00:52:35,896
Speaker 3: So you have to learn these things and what to

1139
00:52:35,936 --> 00:52:38,736
Speaker 3: look for when you're watching film. Now, a lot of

1140
00:52:38,736 --> 00:52:40,896
Speaker 3: times when you start the middle of I mean the

1141
00:52:40,936 --> 00:52:43,136
Speaker 3: beginning of a week, you go home, and we used

1142
00:52:43,136 --> 00:52:45,816
Speaker 3: to get this is dating myself. We used to get DVDs.

1143
00:52:46,536 --> 00:52:48,736
Speaker 3: It's before they could upload it onto your iPad and

1144
00:52:48,776 --> 00:52:51,136
Speaker 3: do all that stuff, and so it would be plays

1145
00:52:51,376 --> 00:52:54,416
Speaker 3: or you'd ask for a cutup on situational football, third down,

1146
00:52:54,496 --> 00:52:57,176
Speaker 3: red zone, the important parts of the game, to watch

1147
00:52:57,216 --> 00:52:59,776
Speaker 3: what they do defensively, and so you're trying to get

1148
00:52:59,776 --> 00:53:00,536
Speaker 3: a head start.

1149
00:53:00,896 --> 00:53:01,176
Speaker 2: Now.

1150
00:53:01,536 --> 00:53:05,736
Speaker 3: I'll also say that I had a major advantage because

1151
00:53:05,776 --> 00:53:08,696
Speaker 3: Bill Belichick, and I've told you this before, on Tuesdays

1152
00:53:08,896 --> 00:53:11,456
Speaker 3: would bring us in and we'd just sit with Bill

1153
00:53:11,496 --> 00:53:14,336
Speaker 3: and he'd break down the defense, everybody from the defensive coordinator,

1154
00:53:14,576 --> 00:53:16,896
Speaker 3: his lineage, where he came from, what he learned from,

1155
00:53:17,416 --> 00:53:22,216
Speaker 3: overall scheme, and then player by player would go through strengths, weaknesses,

1156
00:53:22,536 --> 00:53:24,256
Speaker 3: how we're going to attack them, why we're going to

1157
00:53:24,256 --> 00:53:27,496
Speaker 3: attack them, and so that taught me. It was like

1158
00:53:27,536 --> 00:53:30,096
Speaker 3: a masterclass in learning how to watch film and what

1159
00:53:30,136 --> 00:53:34,256
Speaker 3: you're looking for, in particular players and characteristics that you

1160
00:53:34,296 --> 00:53:36,736
Speaker 3: could take advantage of on a Sunday. So then by

1161
00:53:36,736 --> 00:53:38,536
Speaker 3: the time I came in on Wednesday and we're doing

1162
00:53:38,616 --> 00:53:42,576
Speaker 3: install and we're putting in twenty five thirty passes. This

1163
00:53:42,616 --> 00:53:44,576
Speaker 3: is why these plays are going in because we're trying

1164
00:53:44,616 --> 00:53:46,696
Speaker 3: to take advantage of this type of defensive structure.

1165
00:53:47,016 --> 00:53:48,216
Speaker 2: And so you clearly understood.

1166
00:53:48,296 --> 00:53:51,496
Speaker 3: Now, not every teams run like that, and so it's

1167
00:53:51,576 --> 00:53:55,576
Speaker 3: up to the player and the coaches of devising a

1168
00:53:55,616 --> 00:53:58,896
Speaker 3: plan that is going to help that player understand. And

1169
00:53:58,936 --> 00:54:01,576
Speaker 3: I know that sounded like it was chaotic there last

1170
00:54:01,616 --> 00:54:04,136
Speaker 3: year between the head coach, the firing of the offensive

1171
00:54:04,176 --> 00:54:08,416
Speaker 3: creator offensive coreator midway through the years, So then you

1172
00:54:08,456 --> 00:54:11,136
Speaker 3: have all these things that you have to address as well.

1173
00:54:12,136 --> 00:54:14,856
Speaker 2: Yeah, it seems like, well I wanted to hear I

1174
00:54:15,016 --> 00:54:17,176
Speaker 2: reflusis part of the story. I did too, But he's

1175
00:54:17,216 --> 00:54:19,856
Speaker 2: not gonna give it. No, no, he's not. So we're

1176
00:54:19,896 --> 00:54:23,696
Speaker 2: only really hearing Caleb Caleb's Dad's part of the store.

1177
00:54:23,936 --> 00:54:25,456
Speaker 3: They put me in a small room and made me

1178
00:54:25,496 --> 00:54:27,816
Speaker 3: watch film away from everybody by myself, with.

1179
00:54:27,856 --> 00:54:30,136
Speaker 2: The lights out, and my eyes had to be closed

1180
00:54:30,216 --> 00:54:34,496
Speaker 2: and only had one AirPod. It just feels like since

1181
00:54:34,496 --> 00:54:37,136
Speaker 2: we're only getting one perspective, we're only getting one version

1182
00:54:37,176 --> 00:54:38,216
Speaker 2: of the story, right.

1183
00:54:38,296 --> 00:54:41,976
Speaker 3: Because I'll tell you what, it would be hard for

1184
00:54:42,096 --> 00:54:46,696
Speaker 3: me to believe that the team didn't come together offensively.

1185
00:54:46,736 --> 00:54:50,896
Speaker 3: You always watch practice together when you're in quarterback rooms

1186
00:54:50,936 --> 00:54:53,096
Speaker 3: and you're there just there with the offensive coordinator or

1187
00:54:53,136 --> 00:54:55,856
Speaker 3: the quarterback coach, and all you do is watch film

1188
00:54:56,576 --> 00:54:59,616
Speaker 3: like you break down film, you do install, you go

1189
00:54:59,656 --> 00:55:02,096
Speaker 3: through the game plan, and so to think that there

1190
00:55:02,216 --> 00:55:05,256
Speaker 3: was no time on task with coaches present or other

1191
00:55:05,376 --> 00:55:07,496
Speaker 3: players present, it's hard for me to be believe.

1192
00:55:07,896 --> 00:55:11,576
Speaker 2: We were talking last week about the NBA Draft lottery,

1193
00:55:12,176 --> 00:55:14,976
Speaker 2: and we had the brief conversation of do we think

1194
00:55:14,976 --> 00:55:17,496
Speaker 2: it's rigged? And no, I think and so do you

1195
00:55:17,616 --> 00:55:20,576
Speaker 2: that it's not worth rigging for a year to ruin

1196
00:55:20,616 --> 00:55:23,696
Speaker 2: a whole brand. It's a billion dollar brand and so.

1197
00:55:23,936 --> 00:55:26,696
Speaker 2: But Shack was talking about this. He was asked on

1198
00:55:26,696 --> 00:55:30,016
Speaker 2: a podcast and he insinuates that David Sterne, who was

1199
00:55:30,056 --> 00:55:31,736
Speaker 2: the commissioner at the time, asked him where he wanted

1200
00:55:31,776 --> 00:55:36,056
Speaker 2: to play before the draft lottery took place, and he said, basically,

1201
00:55:36,096 --> 00:55:37,416
Speaker 2: you want warm weather or cold weather.

1202
00:55:38,256 --> 00:55:40,496
Speaker 5: I don't know if you heard this story, but in

1203
00:55:40,616 --> 00:55:43,416
Speaker 5: nineteen ninety two, I believe what the draft was in

1204
00:55:43,416 --> 00:55:46,736
Speaker 5: in June or something. I meet mister Stearn in March

1205
00:55:47,136 --> 00:55:49,976
Speaker 5: and he says to me, hey, no you are can't

1206
00:55:49,976 --> 00:55:52,096
Speaker 5: wait for you to come to the NBA. Then he

1207
00:55:52,136 --> 00:55:54,056
Speaker 5: pulls into this hot You want to play where it's

1208
00:55:54,056 --> 00:55:55,056
Speaker 5: cold or it's hot?

1209
00:55:55,296 --> 00:55:57,016
Speaker 2: He asked me that. Yeah, he did.

1210
00:55:57,136 --> 00:55:59,776
Speaker 5: He asked me that, and I was like hot, and

1211
00:55:59,816 --> 00:56:01,096
Speaker 5: he smiled and I smiled.

1212
00:56:02,496 --> 00:56:04,176
Speaker 2: That's kind of just a question that you can ask

1213
00:56:04,176 --> 00:56:06,136
Speaker 2: though right without it being fishy. They do play the

1214
00:56:06,176 --> 00:56:09,576
Speaker 2: music behind it on TikTok, which it means there's a conspiracy. Yeah,

1215
00:56:09,576 --> 00:56:13,056
Speaker 2: that's the general conspiracy technok music. I don't feel like

1216
00:56:13,176 --> 00:56:15,896
Speaker 2: that question is a wink wink question. Would you rather

1217
00:56:15,936 --> 00:56:19,096
Speaker 2: go play somewhere cold or somewhere warm? Yeah? Warm? And also,

1218
00:56:19,136 --> 00:56:20,776
Speaker 2: if you're gonna like rig it, do you send him

1219
00:56:20,816 --> 00:56:21,536
Speaker 2: to Orlando?

1220
00:56:22,656 --> 00:56:22,856
Speaker 5: Yeah?

1221
00:56:22,896 --> 00:56:24,656
Speaker 2: I don't think so. I don't think he sent him

1222
00:56:24,656 --> 00:56:26,256
Speaker 2: the magic Guy, though he probably sad up ahead and

1223
00:56:26,256 --> 00:56:32,016
Speaker 2: cut everybody off. Somewhere warm. That's that's thanks, Commissioner. That's

1224
00:56:32,016 --> 00:56:35,376
Speaker 2: from Ashley Neville and her podcast and also from Legion Hoops.

1225
00:56:36,016 --> 00:56:37,856
Speaker 2: I don't think it was a conspiracy. It is very

1226
00:56:37,896 --> 00:56:41,416
Speaker 2: interesting now to see Cooper flag go to Dallas. They

1227
00:56:41,416 --> 00:56:46,176
Speaker 2: got the first WNBA pick two. Oh, the commissioners are

1228
00:56:46,176 --> 00:56:48,576
Speaker 2: working together. Dallas just sold their sold to the devil, Mike,

1229
00:56:48,736 --> 00:56:50,616
Speaker 2: I think so. So what was it? Uh?

1230
00:56:51,376 --> 00:56:55,616
Speaker 3: Who got picked? In the one where they they said

1231
00:56:55,616 --> 00:56:56,736
Speaker 3: they froze the envelope?

1232
00:56:56,736 --> 00:56:59,016
Speaker 2: Oh, the Knicks. That was a good one's Patrick Ewing? Yeah,

1233
00:56:59,176 --> 00:57:02,336
Speaker 2: frozy the envelope? Yeah, frozen envelope. So I thought i'd

1234
00:57:02,336 --> 00:57:04,936
Speaker 2: follow that up. What's happening this week for you anything? Uh?

1235
00:57:05,096 --> 00:57:06,896
Speaker 3: This week, we got some friends coming in town, some

1236
00:57:06,896 --> 00:57:09,256
Speaker 3: dear friends, actually Ken O'Brien who played for the Jets

1237
00:57:09,296 --> 00:57:11,736
Speaker 3: for a bunch of years. Their good family friends are

1238
00:57:11,736 --> 00:57:13,176
Speaker 3: coming here for a wedding this week, and they get

1239
00:57:13,176 --> 00:57:14,816
Speaker 3: in today, so we get.

1240
00:57:14,696 --> 00:57:16,136
Speaker 2: To have him out.

1241
00:57:16,336 --> 00:57:18,656
Speaker 3: He's also the godparents, he and his wife are the

1242
00:57:18,656 --> 00:57:20,896
Speaker 3: godparents and my son Matthew, so we get to see

1243
00:57:20,976 --> 00:57:22,256
Speaker 3: him be around him for a little bit.

1244
00:57:22,296 --> 00:57:24,296
Speaker 2: It'll be great. You guys just talk football the whole time.

1245
00:57:24,336 --> 00:57:27,336
Speaker 2: Oh every day. We're just such meatheads. I don't know if

1246
00:57:27,296 --> 00:57:28,496
Speaker 2: you're kidding. I feel like you told the truth.

1247
00:57:28,576 --> 00:57:31,376
Speaker 3: No, you know, we talk a little bit of football,

1248
00:57:31,416 --> 00:57:33,856
Speaker 3: but like we're close friends. I've known him since I

1249
00:57:33,896 --> 00:57:37,696
Speaker 3: was seventeen years old. He was coaching quarterbacks at USC

1250
00:57:37,736 --> 00:57:39,616
Speaker 3: when I was getting recruit there. Came to my house

1251
00:57:39,616 --> 00:57:41,256
Speaker 3: when I was seventeen to recruit me. So I've known

1252
00:57:41,296 --> 00:57:41,856
Speaker 3: him forever.

1253
00:57:42,136 --> 00:57:44,376
Speaker 2: Did he stay when you went? No, he couldn't.

1254
00:57:45,056 --> 00:57:47,536
Speaker 3: He didn't get along with the head coach, Coach Hackett,

1255
00:57:47,576 --> 00:57:49,776
Speaker 3: so he left as I was coming in.

1256
00:57:49,856 --> 00:57:53,336
Speaker 2: I was just so devastated by it. Wait, you didn't

1257
00:57:53,376 --> 00:57:54,856
Speaker 2: go in under Carrol.

1258
00:57:55,496 --> 00:57:57,896
Speaker 3: No, I went on under Hackett. That's probably why I

1259
00:57:57,896 --> 00:58:01,136
Speaker 3: didn't play, because Pete Carroll brought in Oh man, Yes,

1260
00:58:01,496 --> 00:58:04,056
Speaker 3: that's my conspiracy theory. I wasn't his dude play that

1261
00:58:04,176 --> 00:58:05,056
Speaker 3: conspiracy music?

1262
00:58:05,696 --> 00:58:10,376
Speaker 2: See music right now? When did Carol come in? My

1263
00:58:10,496 --> 00:58:11,056
Speaker 2: second year?

1264
00:58:11,096 --> 00:58:13,856
Speaker 3: So the first year I was there, we didn't even

1265
00:58:13,896 --> 00:58:16,256
Speaker 3: go to a bowl, and we had a good talent

1266
00:58:16,456 --> 00:58:20,056
Speaker 3: like Troy Palmer, Carson Palmer, go down the list. We

1267
00:58:20,096 --> 00:58:22,936
Speaker 3: had some dudes, and then Carol came in the next

1268
00:58:23,016 --> 00:58:27,616
Speaker 3: year like just raging with energy, fired up right a roll.

1269
00:58:27,736 --> 00:58:32,096
Speaker 3: We went six and six, went to the Las Vegas

1270
00:58:32,136 --> 00:58:36,136
Speaker 3: Bowl on Christmas Day awesome to be in Vegas, but

1271
00:58:36,216 --> 00:58:39,856
Speaker 3: still Christmas Day really Vegas, Like we had an Elvis

1272
00:58:39,896 --> 00:58:43,216
Speaker 3: impersonator performing for us, Like I'm just like, what are

1273
00:58:43,256 --> 00:58:46,816
Speaker 3: we doing here? Then the next year is the year

1274
00:58:47,416 --> 00:58:49,536
Speaker 3: that we went to a whole new level. We went

1275
00:58:49,616 --> 00:58:53,296
Speaker 3: Orange Bowl, Rose Bowl, Orange Bowl, won all those games

1276
00:58:53,656 --> 00:58:56,176
Speaker 3: back back to back or three Pete in terms of

1277
00:58:56,296 --> 00:58:59,536
Speaker 3: national champion, and then I left after that. That's the

1278
00:58:59,616 --> 00:59:02,496
Speaker 3: year that they went and played Texas and the Rose Bowl.

1279
00:59:02,576 --> 00:59:04,336
Speaker 3: So we got it going.

1280
00:59:04,336 --> 00:59:06,936
Speaker 2: Pete Carroll earlier and you talked about his energy. What's

1281
00:59:06,976 --> 00:59:09,536
Speaker 2: he like when he comes in at first? Did he

1282
00:59:09,616 --> 00:59:11,736
Speaker 2: have a meeting with the whole team and like an auditorium?

1283
00:59:11,776 --> 00:59:13,296
Speaker 2: I don't know. That's what I consider every coach doing,

1284
00:59:13,296 --> 00:59:14,776
Speaker 2: like coming in talking to everybody all at once.

1285
00:59:14,896 --> 00:59:17,656
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, every head coach I've ever been to, especially

1286
00:59:17,776 --> 00:59:19,936
Speaker 3: new head coaches that come in, they come in, they

1287
00:59:19,976 --> 00:59:22,696
Speaker 3: meet in front of the team, say that they're excited

1288
00:59:22,696 --> 00:59:24,576
Speaker 3: for their opportunity, but they get right to business. They

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Speaker 3: kind of set the tone for what the expectation level is,

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00:59:28,576 --> 00:59:33,856
Speaker 3: or talk about their foundation for their program, whether it's physicality, toughness,

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00:59:34,136 --> 00:59:37,536
Speaker 3: all those things, and then just kind of lay the

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00:59:37,536 --> 00:59:41,016
Speaker 3: groundwork for this is our expectation, this is what we

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Speaker 3: want to do, and I'm excited to work with you

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00:59:42,976 --> 00:59:46,216
Speaker 3: and get to work. So he came in, but he

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00:59:46,256 --> 00:59:48,296
Speaker 3: has a different type of aura about himself.

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Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 3: You see when you see him in those press conferences

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Speaker 3: or if you've ever seen him interviewed, you know, everybody

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Speaker 3: describes him as useful, and that's true, but he brings

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00:59:57,256 --> 01:00:01,216
Speaker 3: that energy. I'm not kidding you. Every single day you

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01:00:01,416 --> 01:00:05,136
Speaker 3: never see this dude down. You always seem interacting with

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Speaker 3: play on the field. He's he's playing catch, he's getting

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01:00:09,176 --> 01:00:12,536
Speaker 3: into drills, he's doing everything that he can do to

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Speaker 3: try to connect. And that's the special quality that Pete

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Speaker 3: Carroll brings everywhere he goes.

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Speaker 2: I've never met him. We should go out to Vegas

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Speaker 2: before the season actually starts and like sit down with them.

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Speaker 3: Oh he we absolutely should do that. Awesome, Yeah, because

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Speaker 3: he'll he'll talk for hours. I'm telling you, I just

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Speaker 3: meant to call him. I knew he was probably busy

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Speaker 3: or something to talk to him about his son, Brandon Carroll,

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Speaker 3: who was the offensive coordinator, Just like a, hey, what

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Speaker 3: are your thoughts about now? Where he's progressed to He

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Speaker 3: talked about that.

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Speaker 2: For maybe five minutes. Oh, he's great, Mattie, this, that

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Speaker 2: and the other.

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Speaker 3: But then immediately went into their scheme, what they're doing

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Speaker 3: the run game, how they need to be more physical upfront,

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Speaker 3: play from under center so they get better play action.

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Speaker 3: And I was just like, man, this dude still still's

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Speaker 3: got it.

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Speaker 2: Well, man, I hope you have a good week. What

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Speaker 2: do you got, what do you got on the docket. Well, so,

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Speaker 2: my brother in law is a heading coach at Arkansas.

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Speaker 2: They won the regional of four teams, let's go. So

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Speaker 2: now they're in the Super Regional and so they play

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Speaker 2: one series of three games against Ole Miss in Fayetteville.

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Speaker 2: So there are sixteen teams left in the entire CAA tournament. Huh.

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Speaker 2: If they win that, it'd be their first appearance ever

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Speaker 2: in the College World Series. That's a big deal. So

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Speaker 2: when he was at Utah, he went in as a

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Speaker 2: hitting coach and their second year took Utah to their

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Speaker 2: first ever College World Series. And if he's able to

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Speaker 2: do it here again his second year, again he's a

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Speaker 2: hitting coach. But it will it will not be a coincidence.

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Speaker 3: No, he'll be a head coach anywhere he goes. He's

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Speaker 3: turning these programs into gold.

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Speaker 2: His mom has won four national championships in a row

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Speaker 2: at Oklahoma has won eight in total, has won like

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Speaker 2: six the last eight. Wow, it's in the bloodstream. She

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Speaker 2: had him. And he's like.

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Speaker 3: She's like, is it okay if he plays softball because

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Speaker 3: I know how to do that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And he's like, Oh, we're gonna go to Fatville

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Speaker 2: and hopefully watch Rockets. I'll bet all miss let's go.

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Speaker 2: That'd be awesome. Hey, I appreciate you guys, thanks for listening.

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Speaker 2: If you don't mind giving us a review, if you

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Speaker 2: don't mind writing a little comment, and if you say, hey, Matt,

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Speaker 2: your pants are much loose this week. I think because

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01:02:07,736 --> 01:02:09,456
Speaker 2: he's really been focused on his pants and not being

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Speaker 2: so tight. Now these are tight too.

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Speaker 3: I think it's just my legs are getting betterer with

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01:02:12,896 --> 01:02:14,056
Speaker 3: all the squats I've been doing.

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Speaker 2: Front squats. Bro Front squats suck. They suck like on

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01:02:19,696 --> 01:02:22,376
Speaker 2: my shoulders, my shoulders, in your wrist. It's not the

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01:02:22,416 --> 01:02:25,096
Speaker 2: most masculine like hold of a bar either. Elbows have

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01:02:25,136 --> 01:02:26,936
Speaker 2: to go in front of you. Sometimes I'll just fold

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Speaker 2: it over. I'm trying to make myself feel a little

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Speaker 2: bit better. Or I do towels. You ever do the

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Speaker 2: small towels? No, I never never tell you wouldn't do that.

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Speaker 2: Now you're kidding me, You're real dude. All Right, that's it.

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Speaker 2: Thank you guys. Mike de producing for Kickoff Kevin. Who

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Speaker 2: kick Off Kevin is out. He had twins, twins, a

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Speaker 2: boy and a girl. Incredible blessing. We haven't heard from

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Speaker 2: him other than him commenting on a video. It was

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Speaker 2: the baby video of you and I great video. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: and he was like this is hilarious. So Kickoff Kevin

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Speaker 2: did have twins. But Mike D's producing, Brandon Ray is

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Speaker 2: shooting video. He's Matt Castle on Bobby Bones. We've had

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Speaker 2: lots to say. We'll see you next week by.

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Speaker 1: Every buddy, lots to say with Bob villains in. Matt

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Speaker 1: Castle is a production of the NFL and iHeart Podcasts.

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