1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:03,760 Speaker 1: This is Bloomberg Business Week with Carol Messer and Jason 2 00:00:03,840 --> 00:00:13,920 Speaker 1: Kelly on Bloomberg Radio. Alright, so, Carol, we spent a 3 00:00:13,960 --> 00:00:17,120 Speaker 1: lot of time last year talking about the big tech names, 4 00:00:17,160 --> 00:00:19,640 Speaker 1: how successful they were. We were talking earlier in the 5 00:00:19,720 --> 00:00:22,400 Speaker 1: day about the fact that after the close we have 6 00:00:22,440 --> 00:00:27,320 Speaker 1: another trillion dollar company in that so, you know, trillion 7 00:00:27,320 --> 00:00:30,360 Speaker 1: dollar companies, they're you know, they're popping up everywhere. Exactly 8 00:00:30,400 --> 00:00:34,280 Speaker 1: what's happening sort of underneath all of these technologies and 9 00:00:34,320 --> 00:00:35,879 Speaker 1: what are the trends we should be worried about. We're 10 00:00:35,880 --> 00:00:38,800 Speaker 1: gonna put all of that to Bill Briggs, chief Technology 11 00:00:38,800 --> 00:00:42,279 Speaker 1: Officer for Deloitte Consulting. He's here in our Bloomberg Interactive 12 00:00:42,280 --> 00:00:46,400 Speaker 1: Broker studio based out in Kansas City, although unfortunately for him, 13 00:00:46,400 --> 00:00:49,360 Speaker 1: he's a Bengals fan, so only taking part sort of 14 00:00:49,920 --> 00:00:52,839 Speaker 1: kind of in a secondary or maybe a sort of 15 00:00:52,880 --> 00:00:54,600 Speaker 1: second hand way and all the excitement's going on with 16 00:00:54,640 --> 00:00:57,400 Speaker 1: the chiefs. But we'll get to that later. Yeah, you 17 00:00:57,520 --> 00:00:59,400 Speaker 1: do think to be and I own it. I know 18 00:00:59,640 --> 00:01:01,720 Speaker 1: that must be must be tough for you a cocktail parties. 19 00:01:01,760 --> 00:01:05,520 Speaker 1: But um so let's talk about your your tech trends 20 00:01:05,560 --> 00:01:10,480 Speaker 1: Insights Report because it is an interesting time, especially because 21 00:01:10,959 --> 00:01:15,560 Speaker 1: it feels like skepticism around technology could be at an 22 00:01:15,560 --> 00:01:17,840 Speaker 1: all time high. I think you have to flip it 23 00:01:17,920 --> 00:01:21,800 Speaker 1: in for our for Thoy's clients, fortunate five hundred large 24 00:01:21,800 --> 00:01:24,760 Speaker 1: government agencies, it's almost the opposite of the potential is 25 00:01:24,800 --> 00:01:27,480 Speaker 1: so untapped, as so much that's happened in the last 26 00:01:27,640 --> 00:01:30,800 Speaker 1: we started this report eleven years ago, and the things 27 00:01:30,840 --> 00:01:33,280 Speaker 1: that were front and center, then cloud, and then move 28 00:01:33,360 --> 00:01:36,479 Speaker 1: to analytics and data and you know those are still 29 00:01:36,480 --> 00:01:38,800 Speaker 1: relevant and there's still so much upside to be had, 30 00:01:38,880 --> 00:01:41,480 Speaker 1: and now you move into the things kind of driving 31 00:01:41,840 --> 00:01:45,920 Speaker 1: today and tomorrow, blockchain and AI and quantum, and so 32 00:01:46,000 --> 00:01:50,520 Speaker 1: there's untapped, huge potential to drive all kinds of frontline 33 00:01:50,520 --> 00:01:52,760 Speaker 1: new products, service offerings and back that have work. It's done. 34 00:01:52,840 --> 00:01:55,640 Speaker 1: So that's the I mean, the theme is a very 35 00:01:55,640 --> 00:01:58,320 Speaker 1: optimistic theme of how do we apply technology to transform 36 00:01:58,320 --> 00:02:01,920 Speaker 1: and disrupting and innovating. But the skepticism is there too, 37 00:02:02,120 --> 00:02:04,440 Speaker 1: which I think is healthy to keep that because one 38 00:02:04,440 --> 00:02:05,880 Speaker 1: of the things you talk about in the report, I 39 00:02:05,880 --> 00:02:09,840 Speaker 1: think is ethical technology and trust, and I would imagine 40 00:02:09,840 --> 00:02:12,000 Speaker 1: that that becomes a big theme as people are rolling 41 00:02:12,040 --> 00:02:16,440 Speaker 1: things out, especially if they're customer or consumer facing. Yeah, 42 00:02:16,480 --> 00:02:19,080 Speaker 1: and how do you make that an actionable you know, 43 00:02:19,120 --> 00:02:22,680 Speaker 1: So we had risk forever in technology, so we'd say, 44 00:02:22,680 --> 00:02:26,320 Speaker 1: how do we actually manage the risk of delivery, risk, operations, 45 00:02:26,360 --> 00:02:29,600 Speaker 1: security and privacy, regulatory compliance. The shift to say the 46 00:02:29,600 --> 00:02:32,799 Speaker 1: ethics simlarity of what we do and just because we can, 47 00:02:32,880 --> 00:02:34,760 Speaker 1: should we? And how do we make that a very 48 00:02:34,800 --> 00:02:37,800 Speaker 1: strategic conversation and not something we're surprised by after the 49 00:02:37,840 --> 00:02:41,680 Speaker 1: fact worst case or a compliance based activity which is 50 00:02:41,720 --> 00:02:43,679 Speaker 1: not doesn't feel right? So how do you do that 51 00:02:43,720 --> 00:02:46,160 Speaker 1: in authentic way, a transparent way. It's not just for 52 00:02:46,240 --> 00:02:49,880 Speaker 1: customers and product, it's also for your people, your employees 53 00:02:49,880 --> 00:02:52,680 Speaker 1: and how work is transforming inside the enterprise. Well, it's 54 00:02:52,680 --> 00:02:55,800 Speaker 1: interesting too because I feel like UM in terms of 55 00:02:56,639 --> 00:02:59,799 Speaker 1: gaining customers trust and brand loyalty. I mean, some of 56 00:02:59,840 --> 00:03:03,280 Speaker 1: the tech brands, whether it's you know, privacy invasion or 57 00:03:03,360 --> 00:03:04,960 Speaker 1: data leaks and so on and so forth, that has 58 00:03:05,040 --> 00:03:09,440 Speaker 1: certainly come under UM some stresses as of late. So, uh, 59 00:03:09,480 --> 00:03:12,200 Speaker 1: specifically does it get better? You know what? What's the 60 00:03:12,240 --> 00:03:15,040 Speaker 1: future for that? Well, you see some organizations starting to 61 00:03:15,120 --> 00:03:18,080 Speaker 1: use that as actually a branding position of the fact 62 00:03:18,080 --> 00:03:20,200 Speaker 1: that We have that front and center in our mission, 63 00:03:20,280 --> 00:03:22,440 Speaker 1: in our brand, in what we do. Don't sell your data, 64 00:03:22,520 --> 00:03:24,840 Speaker 1: we don't or whatever whatever it may be. Yeah, and 65 00:03:25,160 --> 00:03:26,880 Speaker 1: you like one of the trends this year is the 66 00:03:26,960 --> 00:03:28,919 Speaker 1: human experience platform, which is the idea that we can 67 00:03:29,040 --> 00:03:32,880 Speaker 1: use with computer vision and with voice detection and with 68 00:03:33,000 --> 00:03:37,040 Speaker 1: sensors understand an individual's emotional state and use that to 69 00:03:37,120 --> 00:03:39,960 Speaker 1: help interact with them in a more authentic, engaging way. 70 00:03:40,280 --> 00:03:44,240 Speaker 1: That's one that has the potential to cross that line 71 00:03:44,280 --> 00:03:47,640 Speaker 1: of if done the wrong way, that could be very creepy, 72 00:03:47,760 --> 00:03:50,120 Speaker 1: very unsettling. If done the right way, there's a ton 73 00:03:50,160 --> 00:03:53,240 Speaker 1: of utility for the individual and employ your customer, so 74 00:03:53,280 --> 00:03:56,160 Speaker 1: they What I love is the trends. The convergence of 75 00:03:56,200 --> 00:03:58,200 Speaker 1: the trends is the most important piece of the report. 76 00:03:58,280 --> 00:04:01,680 Speaker 1: None of them individually is sufficient. Right, we want to 77 00:04:01,680 --> 00:04:03,400 Speaker 1: talk I want to talk a little about the finance 78 00:04:03,760 --> 00:04:12,000 Speaker 1: sector because I feel that I'm just kidding all right, listen, listen, 79 00:04:12,440 --> 00:04:14,120 Speaker 1: But I feel like we have silky stories that come 80 00:04:14,120 --> 00:04:18,280 Speaker 1: out about fintech startups, uh, and we see more and 81 00:04:18,279 --> 00:04:20,839 Speaker 1: more technology invading the financial space. What was it the 82 00:04:20,839 --> 00:04:23,240 Speaker 1: story that we had about like, oh Trader's bonuses, like 83 00:04:23,279 --> 00:04:25,640 Speaker 1: that's that culture is going away because there's a lot 84 00:04:25,680 --> 00:04:29,560 Speaker 1: more technology involved in the trading realm. So like, what 85 00:04:29,600 --> 00:04:32,880 Speaker 1: do you guys see one thing is fascinating. The trend 86 00:04:32,920 --> 00:04:35,159 Speaker 1: isn't about this point, but it's very real. When you 87 00:04:35,160 --> 00:04:38,200 Speaker 1: think about digital transformation into the finance organization is a 88 00:04:38,279 --> 00:04:41,839 Speaker 1: huge potential that doesn't often get the attention. This trend 89 00:04:41,960 --> 00:04:45,239 Speaker 1: is is the convergence of with the need to drive 90 00:04:45,360 --> 00:04:48,520 Speaker 1: investments in emergency tech and new ways of innovating with 91 00:04:48,680 --> 00:04:52,080 Speaker 1: the realities of the CFO c I, a relationship historically 92 00:04:52,080 --> 00:04:55,480 Speaker 1: hasn't been the strongest. You know, there's a bit of 93 00:04:55,680 --> 00:04:59,000 Speaker 1: unflict still with everything that's gone on, Well, what do 94 00:04:59,080 --> 00:05:02,040 Speaker 1: I feel like the the Chief Information Officer now has 95 00:05:02,040 --> 00:05:04,039 Speaker 1: a seat at the table they do and and the 96 00:05:04,080 --> 00:05:06,520 Speaker 1: beauty is the CFO was becoming a part of the 97 00:05:06,560 --> 00:05:09,159 Speaker 1: discussion of how do we fund these investments, how do 98 00:05:09,200 --> 00:05:11,800 Speaker 1: we think about our technology spending in a different way 99 00:05:12,120 --> 00:05:14,320 Speaker 1: not too long ago as all, how can we squeeze 100 00:05:14,880 --> 00:05:17,560 Speaker 1: the cost and how do we drive efficiency and efficacy? 101 00:05:17,960 --> 00:05:19,800 Speaker 1: And the whole trend is about, hey, how do we 102 00:05:19,839 --> 00:05:23,360 Speaker 1: actually think about more agile funding, different funding methods And 103 00:05:23,440 --> 00:05:26,320 Speaker 1: we had before you know, if finance is a constraint 104 00:05:26,400 --> 00:05:28,560 Speaker 1: the funding angle of the capital we have to deploy, 105 00:05:28,800 --> 00:05:32,080 Speaker 1: how do we optimize that impact and return not try 106 00:05:32,120 --> 00:05:36,159 Speaker 1: to minimize the expenditure. Right, So it's almost flipping it 107 00:05:36,200 --> 00:05:39,080 Speaker 1: on that side of a successful organization that's healthy is 108 00:05:39,120 --> 00:05:43,280 Speaker 1: actually spending more in technology, not less so as you 109 00:05:43,320 --> 00:05:45,360 Speaker 1: go through your job, and I was reading a little 110 00:05:45,360 --> 00:05:48,080 Speaker 1: bit about you before we started the interview, this idea 111 00:05:48,200 --> 00:05:52,160 Speaker 1: that you're not just talking like CTO to ct O anymore. 112 00:05:52,320 --> 00:05:55,239 Speaker 1: I feel like part of your job is really talking 113 00:05:55,320 --> 00:05:58,839 Speaker 1: to the CEO who he or she has to be 114 00:05:59,000 --> 00:06:02,359 Speaker 1: much more, not just conversive, but maybe fluent in in 115 00:06:02,440 --> 00:06:05,640 Speaker 1: what you do A thousand percent well, we use the 116 00:06:05,720 --> 00:06:09,520 Speaker 1: term tech fluency tech savv nous and it started with 117 00:06:09,560 --> 00:06:12,279 Speaker 1: something within the tech cord to understand what was happening 118 00:06:12,279 --> 00:06:15,280 Speaker 1: in these emerging areas. It now has shifted squarely into 119 00:06:15,279 --> 00:06:18,599 Speaker 1: the CEO, the C suite, the board. Like last week, 120 00:06:18,640 --> 00:06:22,479 Speaker 1: I hosted twenty five board members at c e S 121 00:06:22,520 --> 00:06:26,240 Speaker 1: a curated experience and it wasn't about what specifically on 122 00:06:26,279 --> 00:06:28,719 Speaker 1: the floor might trigger an idea back in their business. 123 00:06:28,839 --> 00:06:31,640 Speaker 1: Is more a great personification of all the change happening, 124 00:06:32,120 --> 00:06:34,800 Speaker 1: and what is the responsibility. You know, it's not enough 125 00:06:34,800 --> 00:06:37,120 Speaker 1: to have a tech committee and say it's someone's responsibility 126 00:06:37,160 --> 00:06:40,000 Speaker 1: that's thinking about this. It is that shared fluency of 127 00:06:40,680 --> 00:06:44,960 Speaker 1: oversight at the governor's level front and center, strategy relevancy, 128 00:06:45,000 --> 00:06:47,279 Speaker 1: how do you compete? And at the c suite that 129 00:06:47,360 --> 00:06:49,839 Speaker 1: the c i O was a central part of the equation. 130 00:06:49,880 --> 00:06:52,040 Speaker 1: But it's not just the tech exect job anymore. Well, 131 00:06:52,040 --> 00:06:54,680 Speaker 1: because presumably if you're a board member, you are much 132 00:06:54,720 --> 00:06:57,200 Speaker 1: more concerned in the world of cyber attacks, in the war, 133 00:06:57,279 --> 00:07:00,000 Speaker 1: in a world of much more complex technology. You can't 134 00:07:00,040 --> 00:07:02,719 Speaker 1: now be in a position where if something bad happens, 135 00:07:02,960 --> 00:07:04,080 Speaker 1: you can't just sit in the board and be like, 136 00:07:04,080 --> 00:07:06,000 Speaker 1: I don't understand one of these guys are talking about, right, 137 00:07:07,200 --> 00:07:10,200 Speaker 1: and I didn't. Okay, the spending on improving the assistance well, 138 00:07:10,240 --> 00:07:12,240 Speaker 1: and and then take that to the next level of 139 00:07:12,280 --> 00:07:15,120 Speaker 1: and how are we making investments to be relevant for tomorrow? 140 00:07:15,520 --> 00:07:19,840 Speaker 1: Which is the strategic angle that's the most important to me. Yeah, exactly, exactly, 141 00:07:19,840 --> 00:07:22,360 Speaker 1: all right, fun, thank you so much for stopping by 142 00:07:22,400 --> 00:07:25,600 Speaker 1: Bill Briggs, Chief Technology Officer Delate Consulting here in our 143 00:07:25,640 --> 00:07:28,440 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Interactive broker's studio,