1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:03,320 Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck 2 00:00:03,360 --> 00:00:07,480 Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. Lay Travis and Buck Sexton Shott. This 3 00:00:07,600 --> 00:00:11,360 Speaker 1: is Buck here in NYC, New York City, and my 4 00:00:11,440 --> 00:00:15,400 Speaker 1: friend Clay, my main man out there in Nashville, Tennessee. 5 00:00:15,480 --> 00:00:17,400 Speaker 1: We've got a lot today to talk to you all 6 00:00:17,440 --> 00:00:22,520 Speaker 1: about the showdown over vaccine mandates in New York State 7 00:00:22,640 --> 00:00:24,279 Speaker 1: coming to a head. Is this going to happen in 8 00:00:24,320 --> 00:00:27,680 Speaker 1: other states as well? Thousands of jobs hanging the balance. 9 00:00:27,720 --> 00:00:32,159 Speaker 1: The hospital system, the school system could have severe disruption 10 00:00:32,320 --> 00:00:35,199 Speaker 1: based upon the mandates that's gone to effect, plus the 11 00:00:35,640 --> 00:00:40,760 Speaker 1: almost messianic religious zeal with which the new governor Hokel 12 00:00:40,880 --> 00:00:45,159 Speaker 1: talks about vaccines. Perhaps she wants to change the currency 13 00:00:45,200 --> 00:00:50,000 Speaker 1: to inviser we trust. And we've got some NBA players 14 00:00:50,200 --> 00:00:56,080 Speaker 1: with real eloquence and thoughtfulness explaining why they do not 15 00:00:56,280 --> 00:00:59,400 Speaker 1: want to get vaccinated. We'll talk to you about who 16 00:00:59,440 --> 00:01:01,320 Speaker 1: they are and what they said a little bit. The 17 00:01:01,400 --> 00:01:05,640 Speaker 1: budget showdown continues on Biden wants three point five trillion 18 00:01:05,680 --> 00:01:08,240 Speaker 1: plus in spending. It's really five trillion when you added 19 00:01:08,319 --> 00:01:11,600 Speaker 1: up properly, and they're saying it's not going to cost anything. 20 00:01:12,000 --> 00:01:15,479 Speaker 1: Somehow there is no cost to government spending. But that's 21 00:01:15,480 --> 00:01:18,600 Speaker 1: only true if you believe the government owns all property 22 00:01:18,640 --> 00:01:22,080 Speaker 1: and gives us what it deems fit. All right, we'll 23 00:01:22,080 --> 00:01:24,520 Speaker 1: discuss how that's going to play out. The budget and 24 00:01:24,680 --> 00:01:27,280 Speaker 1: of course the debt ceiling fight that lays ahead of us. 25 00:01:27,280 --> 00:01:29,920 Speaker 1: Plus the border continues to be a mass more Haitian 26 00:01:30,520 --> 00:01:33,120 Speaker 1: migrants making their way to US Mexico border because of 27 00:01:33,120 --> 00:01:35,600 Speaker 1: what has just happened recently. But I wanted to start 28 00:01:35,640 --> 00:01:38,480 Speaker 1: today as someone who lives in New York State and 29 00:01:38,560 --> 00:01:42,280 Speaker 1: knows this place pretty well. It's remarkable what's happening here. 30 00:01:42,520 --> 00:01:45,560 Speaker 1: You have the new governor who for many, it seems, 31 00:01:45,600 --> 00:01:51,400 Speaker 1: has already established that absence some weird grabbing, groping and 32 00:01:51,480 --> 00:01:54,920 Speaker 1: smooching behavior could be as bad or worse than the 33 00:01:54,920 --> 00:02:01,680 Speaker 1: old governor Andrew Cuomo. Here she is when giving a sermon, 34 00:02:02,520 --> 00:02:05,680 Speaker 1: which yeah start with that, at a non denominational church 35 00:02:06,120 --> 00:02:10,120 Speaker 1: in upstate New York. Here she is telling everybody that 36 00:02:10,160 --> 00:02:14,480 Speaker 1: the vaccines come from God. I prayed a lot to 37 00:02:14,520 --> 00:02:17,560 Speaker 1: God during this time, and you know what God did 38 00:02:17,600 --> 00:02:21,440 Speaker 1: answer our prayers. He made the smartest men and women, 39 00:02:21,480 --> 00:02:25,040 Speaker 1: the scientists, the doctors, the researchers, He made them come 40 00:02:25,120 --> 00:02:28,280 Speaker 1: up with a vaccine that is from God to us, 41 00:02:28,800 --> 00:02:32,680 Speaker 1: and we must say thank you God, thank you all 42 00:02:32,720 --> 00:02:35,960 Speaker 1: of you. Yes, I know you're vaccinated. You're the smart ones. 43 00:02:36,000 --> 00:02:37,760 Speaker 1: But you know there's people out there who aren't listening 44 00:02:37,800 --> 00:02:40,200 Speaker 1: to God and what God wants. You know this, you 45 00:02:40,240 --> 00:02:43,120 Speaker 1: know who they are. I need you to be my apostles. 46 00:02:43,440 --> 00:02:45,840 Speaker 1: I need you to go out and talk about it 47 00:02:46,000 --> 00:02:48,480 Speaker 1: and say, we owe this to each other. We love 48 00:02:48,520 --> 00:02:52,000 Speaker 1: each other. Jesus taught us to love one another, and 49 00:02:52,040 --> 00:02:54,480 Speaker 1: how do you show that love but to care about 50 00:02:54,520 --> 00:02:57,080 Speaker 1: each other enough to say, please get vaccinated because I 51 00:02:57,160 --> 00:03:00,720 Speaker 1: love you. I want you to live. Clay, she's confusing 52 00:03:00,760 --> 00:03:04,240 Speaker 1: Fauci with God? Or does only Fauci confuse himself with God? 53 00:03:04,280 --> 00:03:08,800 Speaker 1: Because this is creepy beyond belief, it's super weird. And 54 00:03:08,880 --> 00:03:13,160 Speaker 1: I don't need to get into everybody's own personal opinions 55 00:03:13,360 --> 00:03:17,320 Speaker 1: of their savior or their religion or anything else. But 56 00:03:17,400 --> 00:03:20,320 Speaker 1: let me just say this, Any God that I believe 57 00:03:20,360 --> 00:03:23,840 Speaker 1: anyone should be worshiping wants you to use your brain 58 00:03:24,080 --> 00:03:28,400 Speaker 1: and make smart, healthy decisions for you and your family, 59 00:03:29,040 --> 00:03:35,520 Speaker 1: not to acquiesce meekly to what people in government tell you. 60 00:03:35,560 --> 00:03:40,320 Speaker 1: To do right, we need more wolves less sheep here, right, 61 00:03:40,440 --> 00:03:43,320 Speaker 1: And so to me all of this, I mean, she's 62 00:03:43,360 --> 00:03:47,040 Speaker 1: got a vaccinated necklace like gold necklace. Buck, this is 63 00:03:47,160 --> 00:03:52,080 Speaker 1: really strange behavior. And leaving aside the religiosity of that 64 00:03:53,120 --> 00:03:56,240 Speaker 1: sermon basically that she was giving, let's just talk about 65 00:03:56,240 --> 00:03:59,520 Speaker 1: the practical realities of what she is implementing, because I 66 00:03:59,560 --> 00:04:01,600 Speaker 1: think that's where the rubber meets the road here and 67 00:04:01,640 --> 00:04:06,640 Speaker 1: it becomes significant. Thousands of people who are taking care 68 00:04:06,760 --> 00:04:10,240 Speaker 1: of the sick are about to lose their jobs in 69 00:04:10,360 --> 00:04:15,320 Speaker 1: New York hospitals over vaccine related issues. Thousands of teachers 70 00:04:15,520 --> 00:04:19,400 Speaker 1: who are helping to educate our young are about to 71 00:04:19,520 --> 00:04:23,800 Speaker 1: lose their jobs over vaccine mandates. This is mumber buck 72 00:04:23,880 --> 00:04:27,520 Speaker 1: fifteen days to stop the spread was about ensuring that 73 00:04:27,560 --> 00:04:32,600 Speaker 1: our hospitals were not overrun. Her management now and firing 74 00:04:32,680 --> 00:04:36,560 Speaker 1: of all of these different hospital employees, many of whom 75 00:04:36,560 --> 00:04:41,000 Speaker 1: Buck likely have COVID already and have certainly dealt with 76 00:04:41,040 --> 00:04:43,760 Speaker 1: the dangers and the risks of COVID on the front 77 00:04:43,760 --> 00:04:48,240 Speaker 1: lines for eighteen months. Now. They understand that what she 78 00:04:48,440 --> 00:04:52,240 Speaker 1: is implementing is a disaster, both in hospitals and in schools. 79 00:04:52,279 --> 00:04:57,719 Speaker 1: I mean, she's arguably making as bad or worse decisions 80 00:04:57,720 --> 00:05:00,280 Speaker 1: than Andrew Cuomo did, which I didn't think was possible. 81 00:05:00,560 --> 00:05:07,040 Speaker 1: The vaccine mandates are necessary, so necessary for hospital capacity 82 00:05:07,120 --> 00:05:12,320 Speaker 1: that they're willing to destroy hospital capacity with vaccine mandates. 83 00:05:12,440 --> 00:05:15,120 Speaker 1: This is the absurd world in which we find a 84 00:05:15,279 --> 00:05:18,160 Speaker 1: catch twenty two is right to Joseph Heller's special And 85 00:05:18,480 --> 00:05:21,000 Speaker 1: here's what the plan is. Just so everyone's wondering, how 86 00:05:21,040 --> 00:05:23,440 Speaker 1: could they actually do this at Clay points out, you're 87 00:05:23,480 --> 00:05:27,880 Speaker 1: looking at thousands of teachers, administrators in the school system, 88 00:05:27,920 --> 00:05:30,120 Speaker 1: people that work for the Department of Education of New York. 89 00:05:30,720 --> 00:05:33,599 Speaker 1: But just for everyone, remind yourself of this. How this 90 00:05:33,720 --> 00:05:37,960 Speaker 1: goes in New York will be replicated in places like California, 91 00:05:38,000 --> 00:05:40,000 Speaker 1: in Illinois for sure, in the Blue states, and they're 92 00:05:40,000 --> 00:05:42,640 Speaker 1: already going through different There have been firings already of 93 00:05:42,680 --> 00:05:45,360 Speaker 1: healthcare workers in other states because the hospital system has 94 00:05:45,360 --> 00:05:48,480 Speaker 1: said mass viirrings, hundreds at a time. And they're also 95 00:05:48,680 --> 00:05:52,640 Speaker 1: crazy adding insult to injury by making sure, at least 96 00:05:52,680 --> 00:05:55,640 Speaker 1: in New York, that they're not going to be eligible 97 00:05:55,680 --> 00:05:58,919 Speaker 1: for unemployment benefits. So people that just don't want to 98 00:05:58,960 --> 00:06:01,200 Speaker 1: work and have not wanted to work, and we know 99 00:06:01,240 --> 00:06:03,560 Speaker 1: that's been a real thing, especially the last six months 100 00:06:03,680 --> 00:06:06,839 Speaker 1: or so. But over a year, perhaps they continue to 101 00:06:06,839 --> 00:06:10,960 Speaker 1: get state benefits. But those who have been tending to 102 00:06:11,120 --> 00:06:15,360 Speaker 1: the sick COVID patients, in many cases in hospitals will 103 00:06:15,440 --> 00:06:18,039 Speaker 1: be cut off from unemployment because they won't get the shot. 104 00:06:18,200 --> 00:06:22,760 Speaker 1: And they don't even have Clay an exemption for natural immunity. 105 00:06:22,760 --> 00:06:25,360 Speaker 1: Of course, as we've discussed one hundred times, and it's 106 00:06:25,520 --> 00:06:28,680 Speaker 1: just mind blowing, they don't. And also Kathy Hokel, the 107 00:06:28,720 --> 00:06:31,880 Speaker 1: Governor of New York, the High Priestess of Faucism. Now 108 00:06:31,880 --> 00:06:34,719 Speaker 1: we're seeing she's like the Bishop of Fauciism or one 109 00:06:34,720 --> 00:06:38,480 Speaker 1: of many. She's saying that religious exemptions will not be 110 00:06:38,920 --> 00:06:42,280 Speaker 1: tolerated either, because all the religions have said they're in 111 00:06:42,440 --> 00:06:44,960 Speaker 1: on the vaccines Clay. That's despite the fact that she 112 00:06:45,160 --> 00:06:49,520 Speaker 1: was just citing what Jesus would want. Look, this is 113 00:06:50,000 --> 00:06:54,840 Speaker 1: this is epic mismanagement of extraordinary magnitude. And I'm curious 114 00:06:54,880 --> 00:06:56,720 Speaker 1: what you think because we don't know this woman that well. 115 00:06:58,560 --> 00:07:01,839 Speaker 1: I think one of the major issues that has emerged 116 00:07:03,160 --> 00:07:07,320 Speaker 1: that goes across the board in terms of politics in 117 00:07:07,400 --> 00:07:11,200 Speaker 1: COVID lots of politicians just aren't that smart, right, and 118 00:07:11,320 --> 00:07:16,600 Speaker 1: even more so, they're incapable of understanding nuance, and they 119 00:07:16,720 --> 00:07:22,160 Speaker 1: rigorously apply whatever dogma talking points they are given, even 120 00:07:22,200 --> 00:07:26,280 Speaker 1: if that is going to lead them directly to disaster. 121 00:07:26,440 --> 00:07:29,040 Speaker 1: Because that's the young Like, I don't know how a 122 00:07:29,080 --> 00:07:32,679 Speaker 1: person who is an executive in charge, but just pretend. 123 00:07:33,080 --> 00:07:35,720 Speaker 1: One of the things I always tell people, Buck, young 124 00:07:35,760 --> 00:07:38,040 Speaker 1: people who listen to this show are young people who 125 00:07:38,080 --> 00:07:40,600 Speaker 1: are in the process of trying to determine what they 126 00:07:40,600 --> 00:07:43,160 Speaker 1: want to do with your lives. One of the best 127 00:07:43,200 --> 00:07:47,960 Speaker 1: ways to prepare for making difficult decisions is to pretend 128 00:07:48,000 --> 00:07:50,640 Speaker 1: that you're in the chair right now and you have 129 00:07:50,720 --> 00:07:53,840 Speaker 1: to look at all the data and make a logical decision. 130 00:07:53,880 --> 00:07:57,040 Speaker 1: Because in business, at least, the people who get paid 131 00:07:57,080 --> 00:07:59,160 Speaker 1: the most are the ones that have proven to have 132 00:07:59,240 --> 00:08:02,280 Speaker 1: the best judgment over time. Right they look at facts, 133 00:08:02,320 --> 00:08:05,800 Speaker 1: they make the best decisions most management. That's how you 134 00:08:05,840 --> 00:08:08,960 Speaker 1: get promoted, that's how you have success. I don't know 135 00:08:09,040 --> 00:08:10,880 Speaker 1: what's going on here with the Governor of New York 136 00:08:10,920 --> 00:08:12,720 Speaker 1: because Buck, if you and I were sitting there and 137 00:08:12,760 --> 00:08:15,600 Speaker 1: we were advising her, take politics out of the equation. 138 00:08:15,640 --> 00:08:17,360 Speaker 1: I don't care whether you're a Democrat. I don't care 139 00:08:17,360 --> 00:08:20,200 Speaker 1: whether you're a Republican. I don't care whether you're religious. 140 00:08:20,240 --> 00:08:23,080 Speaker 1: I don't care whether you're an atheist, whatever. Like, let's 141 00:08:23,120 --> 00:08:24,840 Speaker 1: just look at the facts here. If you and I 142 00:08:24,880 --> 00:08:26,960 Speaker 1: were sitting talking to the governor of New York right now, 143 00:08:27,360 --> 00:08:31,000 Speaker 1: we'd walk in and we'd say, Governor, you understand that 144 00:08:31,040 --> 00:08:34,320 Speaker 1: you are going to have to put thousands of people 145 00:08:34,400 --> 00:08:38,319 Speaker 1: from the National Guard into hospitals to keep them from collapsing, 146 00:08:38,600 --> 00:08:42,600 Speaker 1: and that you have no good options inside of schools 147 00:08:42,720 --> 00:08:45,839 Speaker 1: if thousands of teachers elect not to be there, you're 148 00:08:45,840 --> 00:08:50,120 Speaker 1: going to destroy simultaneously the hospital system and the school 149 00:08:50,120 --> 00:08:54,080 Speaker 1: system voluntarily over a vaccine mandate that is in no 150 00:08:54,120 --> 00:08:58,600 Speaker 1: way making anybody. So here's here's what the fauchiite religious 151 00:08:58,679 --> 00:09:02,280 Speaker 1: leaders would say in respond to all this. It's only 152 00:09:02,280 --> 00:09:06,640 Speaker 1: going to be a percentage of the healthcare workers and 153 00:09:06,679 --> 00:09:10,640 Speaker 1: the Department of Education employees, so it won't collapse the system, 154 00:09:10,679 --> 00:09:13,320 Speaker 1: That's what they'll say. They'll say that it's reckless to 155 00:09:13,400 --> 00:09:16,880 Speaker 1: expose people to the virus in a hospital setting, which 156 00:09:16,880 --> 00:09:19,000 Speaker 1: of course we know is I mean, I think all 157 00:09:19,000 --> 00:09:21,000 Speaker 1: this is crazy, but I'm just telling you they're willing 158 00:09:21,400 --> 00:09:23,960 Speaker 1: to make this trade off, like they will fire these 159 00:09:23,960 --> 00:09:28,480 Speaker 1: thousands of people, because ultimately this is a power play. Ultimately, 160 00:09:28,559 --> 00:09:31,319 Speaker 1: this is setting a standard going forward as well. If 161 00:09:31,360 --> 00:09:34,600 Speaker 1: they can make all these employees get the shot this time, 162 00:09:35,040 --> 00:09:36,640 Speaker 1: they know they're going to be able to make all 163 00:09:36,640 --> 00:09:39,920 Speaker 1: these employees get the shot next time. The courts, by 164 00:09:40,000 --> 00:09:43,040 Speaker 1: the way, because of previous decisions, seem to be going 165 00:09:43,080 --> 00:09:45,720 Speaker 1: along with this. There was a short term stay in 166 00:09:45,760 --> 00:09:48,280 Speaker 1: New York for Department of Education workers that has since 167 00:09:48,320 --> 00:09:51,760 Speaker 1: been now removed. So we're back to you get the 168 00:09:51,800 --> 00:09:54,679 Speaker 1: shot or else. And you're talking about if we were 169 00:09:54,720 --> 00:09:56,440 Speaker 1: in the captain's chair, so to speak, what do we 170 00:09:56,520 --> 00:09:59,640 Speaker 1: do well. The Governor of New York is saying, don't 171 00:09:59,640 --> 00:10:02,600 Speaker 1: worry about it. We're going to bring in National Guard, 172 00:10:02,800 --> 00:10:07,839 Speaker 1: healthcare assistance essentially, and maybe even temporary healthcare workers. This 173 00:10:07,960 --> 00:10:12,240 Speaker 1: report of the New York Times from Ireland and the Philippines, Yeah, 174 00:10:12,360 --> 00:10:15,959 Speaker 1: instead of actually just dealing with the realities of natural 175 00:10:16,040 --> 00:10:20,840 Speaker 1: immunity checking for antibodies, respecting individual choice, they'd rather do that. 176 00:10:21,200 --> 00:10:24,200 Speaker 1: And here she is saying that that's play. Here's her plan. 177 00:10:25,240 --> 00:10:29,000 Speaker 1: We'll be nation leading with our mandate, which strikes. At 178 00:10:29,040 --> 00:10:31,719 Speaker 1: midnight tonight, when everyone is expected in a hospital in 179 00:10:31,760 --> 00:10:34,160 Speaker 1: the state of New York or a healthcare facility to 180 00:10:34,360 --> 00:10:37,880 Speaker 1: have been vaccinated, I will be signing an executive order 181 00:10:38,040 --> 00:10:41,840 Speaker 1: to give me the emergency powers necessary to address these 182 00:10:41,840 --> 00:10:44,160 Speaker 1: shortages where they occur. And that's going to allow me 183 00:10:44,280 --> 00:10:48,600 Speaker 1: to deploy the National Guard who are medically trained, deploy 184 00:10:48,679 --> 00:10:52,040 Speaker 1: people who've been retired and they have had a licensed lapse, 185 00:10:52,480 --> 00:10:56,120 Speaker 1: bring in people from elsewhere. That is not my first position, 186 00:10:56,160 --> 00:10:59,160 Speaker 1: of my friends, My desire is to have the people 187 00:10:59,160 --> 00:11:01,800 Speaker 1: who've been out there continue to work in their jobs, 188 00:11:02,120 --> 00:11:05,320 Speaker 1: working them safely. And to all the other healthcare workers 189 00:11:05,520 --> 00:11:08,440 Speaker 1: who are vaccinated, they also deserve to know that the 190 00:11:08,480 --> 00:11:11,720 Speaker 1: people they're working with will not get them sick. Clay, 191 00:11:11,800 --> 00:11:18,080 Speaker 1: this is Dictator bull crisis. She's creating a crisis and 192 00:11:18,120 --> 00:11:23,120 Speaker 1: then seizing additional authority to address the crisis of her creation. 193 00:11:24,040 --> 00:11:25,640 Speaker 1: Not only that, Buck, you know how this is going 194 00:11:25,679 --> 00:11:28,480 Speaker 1: to play out right Inevitably, they are going to be 195 00:11:28,559 --> 00:11:32,440 Speaker 1: shortages in the hospitals which will be maniacally covered in 196 00:11:32,559 --> 00:11:36,440 Speaker 1: terms of staffing by the media. And do you know 197 00:11:36,480 --> 00:11:41,280 Speaker 1: who's going to be blamed for those Shortagescinated unvaccinated people. 198 00:11:41,880 --> 00:11:44,920 Speaker 1: That's why, you know, it's such a circular world. Buck. 199 00:11:44,960 --> 00:11:49,000 Speaker 1: They're going to blame the unvaccinated for overloading the hospital 200 00:11:49,040 --> 00:11:52,920 Speaker 1: because they forced the unvaccinated, many of whom have natural immunity, 201 00:11:53,040 --> 00:11:55,040 Speaker 1: to no longer be able to work in the hospital. 202 00:11:55,080 --> 00:11:56,920 Speaker 1: Almost like there's a pattern. You know, when the surge 203 00:11:56,960 --> 00:12:00,680 Speaker 1: happened after lockdowns and mask mandates, we didn't ask enough. 204 00:12:01,000 --> 00:12:05,040 Speaker 1: When surges are happening after vaccination and now vaccination mandates, 205 00:12:05,280 --> 00:12:08,560 Speaker 1: we didn't vaccinate enough. It's it's like they've got a 206 00:12:08,600 --> 00:12:12,319 Speaker 1: fever and the only prescription is more fauciism. That's what 207 00:12:12,440 --> 00:12:14,640 Speaker 1: we're actually facing right now. 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The Tennessee's, 243 00:14:11,360 --> 00:14:15,160 Speaker 1: the Texas, the Florida's, the Georgia's, a lot of these 244 00:14:15,240 --> 00:14:18,720 Speaker 1: Red states are happy to have more healthcare workers. We're 245 00:14:18,760 --> 00:14:22,800 Speaker 1: happy to have more talented educators, especially those who will 246 00:14:22,840 --> 00:14:27,320 Speaker 1: stand on their own morals and who are willing to 247 00:14:27,360 --> 00:14:30,760 Speaker 1: do their own research. And we're going to play for you. 248 00:14:31,480 --> 00:14:36,440 Speaker 1: In the next segment, a discussion from Jonathan Isaac. He 249 00:14:36,560 --> 00:14:40,040 Speaker 1: is an NBA player who is refusing to get the 250 00:14:40,080 --> 00:14:43,960 Speaker 1: COVID vaccine, and he was asked about it yesterday and 251 00:14:44,200 --> 00:14:48,560 Speaker 1: gave a better response than I've heard doctor Fauci give 252 00:14:48,680 --> 00:14:52,160 Speaker 1: in about eighteen months of analyzing the virus. And we're 253 00:14:52,160 --> 00:14:55,080 Speaker 1: going to talk with you and let you hear his response. 254 00:14:55,640 --> 00:14:58,000 Speaker 1: But in the meantime, I think this is significant Buck 255 00:14:58,520 --> 00:15:01,520 Speaker 1: doing the reading you and constantly reading to make sure 256 00:15:01,560 --> 00:15:03,560 Speaker 1: we have as much information as possible to do this 257 00:15:03,640 --> 00:15:05,680 Speaker 1: show and to inform our audience to the best of 258 00:15:05,680 --> 00:15:11,080 Speaker 1: our ability. This morning, Axios published a poll for the 259 00:15:11,160 --> 00:15:16,560 Speaker 1: first time in his presidency. Joe Biden is not trusted 260 00:15:17,160 --> 00:15:20,880 Speaker 1: by the majority of Americans to tell the truth on 261 00:15:21,040 --> 00:15:26,080 Speaker 1: COVID and this is massively significant. And I'm going to 262 00:15:26,160 --> 00:15:29,720 Speaker 1: read you this finding, and I'm curious if you think 263 00:15:29,720 --> 00:15:34,880 Speaker 1: it's significant, Buck in terms of Joe Biden finally starting 264 00:15:34,920 --> 00:15:40,200 Speaker 1: to lose some support and maybe the masses out there 265 00:15:40,240 --> 00:15:42,920 Speaker 1: finally starting to recognize that a lot of what he's 266 00:15:42,960 --> 00:15:46,520 Speaker 1: saying is not rooted in reality. The subject of this 267 00:15:46,680 --> 00:15:50,720 Speaker 1: poll was public trust in Joe Biden to provide accurate 268 00:15:50,800 --> 00:15:56,360 Speaker 1: COVID nineteen information, a great deal or a fair amount. 269 00:15:56,800 --> 00:15:59,120 Speaker 1: Do you trust Joe Biden a great deal or a 270 00:15:59,160 --> 00:16:03,400 Speaker 1: fair amount to provide accurate COVID information? Forty five percent 271 00:16:03,440 --> 00:16:06,920 Speaker 1: of Americans say they do. Do you not trust Joe 272 00:16:06,960 --> 00:16:09,640 Speaker 1: Biden or do you not trust him at all to 273 00:16:09,800 --> 00:16:15,040 Speaker 1: provide accurate COVID information? Fifty three percent Buck are now 274 00:16:15,080 --> 00:16:18,880 Speaker 1: saying they do not, so fifty three percent don't trust him, 275 00:16:18,920 --> 00:16:22,080 Speaker 1: forty five percent do on COVID. I think this is 276 00:16:22,120 --> 00:16:27,320 Speaker 1: massively significant because Joe Biden ran his entire campaign from 277 00:16:27,360 --> 00:16:30,760 Speaker 1: the basement of his house, predicated on the idea that 278 00:16:30,840 --> 00:16:33,520 Speaker 1: he would solve COVID and he would talk to the 279 00:16:33,560 --> 00:16:36,880 Speaker 1: American public honestly. And I think where you're starting to 280 00:16:36,920 --> 00:16:41,560 Speaker 1: see a massive downturn in support is this vaccine mandate 281 00:16:41,600 --> 00:16:44,920 Speaker 1: has blown up in Joe Biden's face because people out 282 00:16:44,920 --> 00:16:48,120 Speaker 1: there who are not vaccinated. I'm one of them who 283 00:16:48,200 --> 00:16:52,880 Speaker 1: were maybe not excited to get vaccinated, but down the 284 00:16:52,920 --> 00:16:56,080 Speaker 1: line might be willing to do so. I think are 285 00:16:56,160 --> 00:16:59,200 Speaker 1: rejecting it even more so now that there's a mandate 286 00:16:59,240 --> 00:17:01,440 Speaker 1: that's been put in place, and this is being shown 287 00:17:01,800 --> 00:17:04,760 Speaker 1: by the numbers of people who are newly vaccinated. They've 288 00:17:04,840 --> 00:17:08,560 Speaker 1: dropped twenty percent since Joe Biden tried to implement his 289 00:17:08,640 --> 00:17:11,160 Speaker 1: mandate and not allow people to make their own choice. 290 00:17:11,200 --> 00:17:13,439 Speaker 1: Turns out when you twist people's arms and refuse to 291 00:17:13,480 --> 00:17:17,680 Speaker 1: ask or answer important questions, and the most notable one 292 00:17:17,720 --> 00:17:21,159 Speaker 1: being about her community I'm sorry natural immunity, which is 293 00:17:21,200 --> 00:17:24,439 Speaker 1: a part of her immunity, people start to get suspicious 294 00:17:24,560 --> 00:17:28,040 Speaker 1: and also start to resent the overreach and the power grab. 295 00:17:28,320 --> 00:17:30,600 Speaker 1: But we do have these NBA players, a couple of 296 00:17:30,640 --> 00:17:35,080 Speaker 1: them who have been really eloquent and they don't fall 297 00:17:35,119 --> 00:17:37,640 Speaker 1: into the general narrative of who the media is willing 298 00:17:37,720 --> 00:17:42,000 Speaker 1: to despise for any vaccine hesitancy or any questions. 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Also, I think we 326 00:19:07,320 --> 00:19:09,320 Speaker 1: might have just cracked back into the top ten of 327 00:19:09,359 --> 00:19:12,120 Speaker 1: the podcast maybe we were eleven at last count. Clay 328 00:19:12,160 --> 00:19:15,399 Speaker 1: almost in the top ten of all podcasts in news. 329 00:19:15,440 --> 00:19:18,680 Speaker 1: So please do subscribe and check out the Clay Travis 330 00:19:18,680 --> 00:19:21,000 Speaker 1: and Buck Sexton Show podcasts. If you miss any of 331 00:19:21,040 --> 00:19:22,919 Speaker 1: what we're saying here, you can always listen on demand. 332 00:19:23,200 --> 00:19:26,320 Speaker 1: You can also when you're with some of your conservative, 333 00:19:26,600 --> 00:19:29,400 Speaker 1: constitution and freedom loving friends, like hey, do you ever 334 00:19:29,440 --> 00:19:31,800 Speaker 1: listen to this podcast? You can text them the link 335 00:19:32,000 --> 00:19:34,240 Speaker 1: or share with them the iHeartRadio app link, which is 336 00:19:34,240 --> 00:19:37,280 Speaker 1: a fun that's a great conversation starter at a barbecue. 337 00:19:37,280 --> 00:19:40,080 Speaker 1: For example, Clay, Hey, maybe you should check out the Buck, 338 00:19:40,119 --> 00:19:44,399 Speaker 1: Sexton and Clay podcast. Friends. Hello, were friends, and we 339 00:19:44,440 --> 00:19:47,159 Speaker 1: should mention also speaking of fellow friends, we're going to 340 00:19:47,240 --> 00:19:51,720 Speaker 1: be doing the show from Birmingham on Friday, which we're 341 00:19:51,720 --> 00:19:55,000 Speaker 1: excited about. But as a part of that, come the 342 00:19:55,119 --> 00:19:58,919 Speaker 1: next morning, we're gonna be in tuscal Loose, Alabama for 343 00:19:59,040 --> 00:20:00,800 Speaker 1: the Old Miss Alaba. I'm a Game, will have a 344 00:20:00,840 --> 00:20:05,440 Speaker 1: tailgate at Ennis Free Bar, which is in Tuscaloosa. Buck 345 00:20:05,480 --> 00:20:08,320 Speaker 1: will be seeing his first ever college football like a 346 00:20:08,320 --> 00:20:10,880 Speaker 1: real college football game with more than like two hundred 347 00:20:10,920 --> 00:20:13,520 Speaker 1: people in the stands. Do you think if I'm going 348 00:20:13,560 --> 00:20:17,080 Speaker 1: to is the weather appropriate for me to maybe do 349 00:20:17,119 --> 00:20:19,840 Speaker 1: the big letter on the chest and the face paint, Clay, 350 00:20:19,960 --> 00:20:23,439 Speaker 1: because I think you sound like a foreigner who's no, 351 00:20:23,840 --> 00:20:27,800 Speaker 1: this is you your age? No, at your age? This 352 00:20:27,920 --> 00:20:29,480 Speaker 1: is a good this is a good question, like what 353 00:20:29,600 --> 00:20:33,920 Speaker 1: should you wear at your age? I would say, So, 354 00:20:34,000 --> 00:20:35,639 Speaker 1: I'm looking at the weather first of all, because I 355 00:20:35,640 --> 00:20:37,440 Speaker 1: haven't checked it till now. So it's gonna be hot, 356 00:20:37,480 --> 00:20:40,680 Speaker 1: like you're gonna melt right, So it's gonna be a 357 00:20:40,760 --> 00:20:45,159 Speaker 1: high of eighty seven in Tuscaloosa on Saturday low of 358 00:20:45,240 --> 00:20:49,679 Speaker 1: sixty six. So I would suggest for you a solid polo, 359 00:20:49,960 --> 00:20:52,280 Speaker 1: not the polo we got photographed with Tommy in wherever 360 00:20:52,320 --> 00:20:54,720 Speaker 1: we both looked. That was unattractive, That was not a 361 00:20:54,760 --> 00:21:00,159 Speaker 1: good look. Solid polo and like you know, jeans, and 362 00:21:00,280 --> 00:21:03,120 Speaker 1: I'm thinking cargo shorts, which are always in style as 363 00:21:03,119 --> 00:21:07,800 Speaker 1: we know, and maybe a collared polo tucked in like really, 364 00:21:07,800 --> 00:21:09,880 Speaker 1: you know, because you gotta i gotta look nice for everybody, 365 00:21:10,040 --> 00:21:13,480 Speaker 1: and then some new balanced sneakers with the socks up high, 366 00:21:13,760 --> 00:21:17,040 Speaker 1: because I'm pie will be going. I'll be going either 367 00:21:17,119 --> 00:21:21,159 Speaker 1: T shirt or polo and h But but I'm telling 368 00:21:21,200 --> 00:21:24,840 Speaker 1: you you are not gonna want to leave, because, first 369 00:21:24,840 --> 00:21:27,080 Speaker 1: of all, living in New York City right now, with 370 00:21:27,160 --> 00:21:31,840 Speaker 1: everybody lockdown and you're having to show vaccine passports everywhere, 371 00:21:32,240 --> 00:21:34,040 Speaker 1: you are not gonna believe your mind, when you look 372 00:21:34,080 --> 00:21:37,159 Speaker 1: around one hundred thousand people in a stadium, there's not 373 00:21:37,200 --> 00:21:40,359 Speaker 1: gonna be a single mask to be seen. They are 374 00:21:40,400 --> 00:21:43,440 Speaker 1: gonna be for you, a single guy, more good looking 375 00:21:43,560 --> 00:21:46,760 Speaker 1: girls than you have been in close proximity to, maybe 376 00:21:46,760 --> 00:21:51,719 Speaker 1: in your entire life. Because the sundress community is going 377 00:21:51,760 --> 00:21:53,520 Speaker 1: to be out in full force for a big game 378 00:21:53,520 --> 00:21:56,280 Speaker 1: in Alabama. Not just Alabama girls, by the way, a 379 00:21:56,320 --> 00:21:59,399 Speaker 1: lot of Old Miss girls coming into just I'm all 380 00:21:59,440 --> 00:22:01,639 Speaker 1: about the word clay and saving the country, you know. 381 00:22:01,680 --> 00:22:04,239 Speaker 1: So if it takes me down there and there's you know, 382 00:22:04,440 --> 00:22:08,359 Speaker 1: sun dresses and pearl necklaces and you know Southern ladies, 383 00:22:08,480 --> 00:22:11,680 Speaker 1: I what am I gonna say? The great line about 384 00:22:11,680 --> 00:22:14,480 Speaker 1: Old Miss, by the way, is that they red shirt 385 00:22:14,560 --> 00:22:16,960 Speaker 1: Miss Americas because I think it was back in the 386 00:22:17,000 --> 00:22:20,600 Speaker 1: sixties or the seventies they had back to back Miss 387 00:22:20,600 --> 00:22:23,440 Speaker 1: Americas that came out of Old Miss, so they had 388 00:22:23,520 --> 00:22:27,320 Speaker 1: one younger one. For football terminology, a red shirt or 389 00:22:27,400 --> 00:22:30,800 Speaker 1: athletic terminology, a red shirt is somebody who is sitting 390 00:22:30,800 --> 00:22:33,520 Speaker 1: out while they get older and more talented to be 391 00:22:33,600 --> 00:22:37,080 Speaker 1: ready to compete. Usually you're freshman's. Freshman players a lot 392 00:22:37,080 --> 00:22:39,760 Speaker 1: of times can red shirt, and so the red shirt 393 00:22:39,760 --> 00:22:42,560 Speaker 1: Miss Americas at Old Miss is a famous line. The 394 00:22:42,600 --> 00:22:44,400 Speaker 1: other one they love to say it Old Miss. Now 395 00:22:44,440 --> 00:22:47,040 Speaker 1: they're good, but they used to say, we may lose 396 00:22:47,040 --> 00:22:49,879 Speaker 1: the game, but we've never lost a party, which is 397 00:22:49,920 --> 00:22:51,879 Speaker 1: a which is a great line too. So that's a 398 00:22:51,920 --> 00:22:55,560 Speaker 1: perfect transition. I think for us into because sports. The 399 00:22:55,720 --> 00:23:00,280 Speaker 1: NBA players that we had mentioned you before who are 400 00:23:00,280 --> 00:23:03,200 Speaker 1: speaking out, and I mean Clay and I were exchanging 401 00:23:03,240 --> 00:23:05,920 Speaker 1: text messages as we saw these these clips and last 402 00:23:06,119 --> 00:23:08,880 Speaker 1: twenty four hours or so, and they're just they're they're 403 00:23:08,960 --> 00:23:12,880 Speaker 1: spot on. I mean, here is the Orlando Magics Jonathan 404 00:23:13,000 --> 00:23:17,760 Speaker 1: Isaac explaining why he does not want to get the show. 405 00:23:18,000 --> 00:23:21,159 Speaker 1: I've had COVID in the past, and so our understanding 406 00:23:21,160 --> 00:23:26,600 Speaker 1: of antibodies of natural immunity has changed a great deal 407 00:23:26,640 --> 00:23:28,920 Speaker 1: from the outset of the pandemic and is still evolving. 408 00:23:29,520 --> 00:23:33,280 Speaker 1: I understand that the vaccine would help if you cash 409 00:23:33,359 --> 00:23:36,840 Speaker 1: COVID and you'll be able to have less symptoms from 410 00:23:36,880 --> 00:23:38,960 Speaker 1: contracting it. But with me having COVID in the past 411 00:23:38,960 --> 00:23:42,879 Speaker 1: and having antibodies with my current age group and a 412 00:23:43,320 --> 00:23:47,399 Speaker 1: fitness physical fitness level, it's not necessarily a fear of mind. 413 00:23:47,760 --> 00:23:51,520 Speaker 1: I would say, honestly, the craziness of it all in 414 00:23:51,640 --> 00:23:53,760 Speaker 1: terms of not being able to say that it should 415 00:23:53,800 --> 00:23:58,520 Speaker 1: be everybody's fair choice without being demeaned or talked crazy too, 416 00:23:58,640 --> 00:24:02,439 Speaker 1: doesn't make more comfortable to do what said person is 417 00:24:02,520 --> 00:24:05,000 Speaker 1: telling them to do. Yeah, I would say that's a 418 00:24:05,000 --> 00:24:08,119 Speaker 1: couple of the reasons. I mean, Clay. Everything he said 419 00:24:08,240 --> 00:24:13,800 Speaker 1: is factual, reasonable, eloquent, well stated, and the point at 420 00:24:13,800 --> 00:24:16,680 Speaker 1: the end about how just kind of you know, browbeating 421 00:24:16,720 --> 00:24:20,280 Speaker 1: and demeaning and yelling at people in response to their 422 00:24:20,560 --> 00:24:22,920 Speaker 1: like a position like the one that he has makes 423 00:24:22,960 --> 00:24:25,879 Speaker 1: you dig in more, right when someone's not being reasonable, 424 00:24:26,200 --> 00:24:28,800 Speaker 1: you dig in more into your position. And I want 425 00:24:28,800 --> 00:24:33,000 Speaker 1: to give Jonathan Isaac credit here. He's twenty three years old. Okay, 426 00:24:33,760 --> 00:24:36,359 Speaker 1: this kid, and I say kid because I'm getting older, 427 00:24:36,400 --> 00:24:38,240 Speaker 1: but he's twenty three. He's a grown man. But I 428 00:24:38,240 --> 00:24:41,080 Speaker 1: still think of young athletes oftentimes as kids, because my 429 00:24:41,160 --> 00:24:44,119 Speaker 1: kids are young athletes. He refused to kneel for the 430 00:24:44,200 --> 00:24:47,639 Speaker 1: national anthem in the NBA bubble last year because he 431 00:24:47,720 --> 00:24:52,399 Speaker 1: said he wasn't. Basically, this guy is willing to think 432 00:24:52,480 --> 00:24:56,320 Speaker 1: for himself. And that answer he gave was in a 433 00:24:56,359 --> 00:25:00,400 Speaker 1: press conference setting, and it was more nuanced and more 434 00:25:00,440 --> 00:25:05,359 Speaker 1: intelligent than any answer I've heard doctor Fauci give about 435 00:25:05,400 --> 00:25:09,760 Speaker 1: the vaccine in months, and he answered the natural immunity. 436 00:25:09,800 --> 00:25:12,880 Speaker 1: He's read, he studied this, He's clearly seen the studies 437 00:25:12,920 --> 00:25:15,680 Speaker 1: out of Israel and read about them. That is what 438 00:25:15,720 --> 00:25:17,800 Speaker 1: we have been saying for a long time, Buck, there's 439 00:25:17,800 --> 00:25:21,240 Speaker 1: a difference between what an obese seventy five year old 440 00:25:21,280 --> 00:25:23,880 Speaker 1: who hasn't had COVID or just a seventy five year 441 00:25:23,880 --> 00:25:26,280 Speaker 1: old really but yes, yeah, but certainly if you're obese, 442 00:25:26,400 --> 00:25:30,800 Speaker 1: because the two leading causes for complications in COVID our 443 00:25:30,960 --> 00:25:34,359 Speaker 1: age and obesity by far. So if you're obese, if 444 00:25:34,359 --> 00:25:37,560 Speaker 1: you're elderly, what you should do and you haven't had 445 00:25:37,560 --> 00:25:41,560 Speaker 1: COVID with the vaccine is different than what a twenty 446 00:25:41,600 --> 00:25:44,080 Speaker 1: three year old pro athlete who's had COVID should. We 447 00:25:44,119 --> 00:25:47,080 Speaker 1: have a framework for this in our society already, which 448 00:25:47,200 --> 00:25:49,480 Speaker 1: is the way we've been dealing with the flu for 449 00:25:49,520 --> 00:25:51,960 Speaker 1: a very long time. My parents have been getting the 450 00:25:51,960 --> 00:25:54,720 Speaker 1: flu shot now for years, and I've I've never been saying, 451 00:25:54,760 --> 00:25:56,480 Speaker 1: oh my gosh, don't do that because of the things 452 00:25:56,480 --> 00:25:58,199 Speaker 1: that it has in it. Because when you get to 453 00:25:58,200 --> 00:26:00,720 Speaker 1: be in your sixties or really particularly your seeds and eighties, 454 00:26:01,000 --> 00:26:04,200 Speaker 1: the flu is very dangerous for you. So even some 455 00:26:04,400 --> 00:26:08,400 Speaker 1: enhanced level of protection is worth it. See. The problem 456 00:26:08,440 --> 00:26:11,800 Speaker 1: is that they keep pretending the Fauciites love this game 457 00:26:12,240 --> 00:26:16,159 Speaker 1: of what is actually a judgment call they pretend is 458 00:26:16,200 --> 00:26:19,760 Speaker 1: a matter of fact, they pretend it's like what temperature 459 00:26:20,000 --> 00:26:23,359 Speaker 1: at which at what point does water boil? We say, okay, 460 00:26:23,359 --> 00:26:26,399 Speaker 1: well we all know. But then they'll turn around and say, hey, 461 00:26:26,640 --> 00:26:31,080 Speaker 1: we think that this is the proper degree of vaccination 462 00:26:31,160 --> 00:26:34,440 Speaker 1: in society, or we think that this is the duration 463 00:26:34,520 --> 00:26:37,520 Speaker 1: of a lockdown. These are policy judgments. And it's not 464 00:26:37,560 --> 00:26:39,880 Speaker 1: even just by the way Fauci himself, all these other 465 00:26:39,920 --> 00:26:43,159 Speaker 1: blue check mds have become a little delusional and a 466 00:26:43,200 --> 00:26:45,719 Speaker 1: little wrapped up in their own narcissism with yeah, you 467 00:26:45,720 --> 00:26:47,560 Speaker 1: guys went to med school and you know a lot 468 00:26:47,600 --> 00:26:49,920 Speaker 1: of things the general public doesn't know. But when you're 469 00:26:49,920 --> 00:26:52,880 Speaker 1: telling people things like my business must be shut down, 470 00:26:53,200 --> 00:26:55,679 Speaker 1: they get to say, how many people are really at 471 00:26:55,760 --> 00:26:58,080 Speaker 1: risk here? Why does the government have a right to 472 00:26:58,080 --> 00:27:02,720 Speaker 1: do this? There's no MD in constitutional protection. That's what 473 00:27:02,760 --> 00:27:05,440 Speaker 1: they don't seem to understand. Well, and just go back 474 00:27:05,440 --> 00:27:08,440 Speaker 1: and listen to the podcast interview we had with doctor 475 00:27:08,480 --> 00:27:14,360 Speaker 1: Harvey Rish yesterday from Yale Epidemiology, huge expert in COVID. 476 00:27:14,760 --> 00:27:19,080 Speaker 1: The idea that doctors agree on everything is a fundamental flaw. 477 00:27:19,119 --> 00:27:21,399 Speaker 1: I mean, just take it outside of the world of COVID. 478 00:27:21,760 --> 00:27:24,679 Speaker 1: How often have you had, or your family or someone 479 00:27:24,760 --> 00:27:27,080 Speaker 1: you know had a medical issue and had to go 480 00:27:27,160 --> 00:27:30,400 Speaker 1: see four or five different doctors and they all diagnosed 481 00:27:30,440 --> 00:27:34,360 Speaker 1: your medical issue differently. Again, I give credit to Jonathan 482 00:27:34,400 --> 00:27:37,919 Speaker 1: Isaac here for speaking more eloquently than almost anyone that 483 00:27:38,040 --> 00:27:41,120 Speaker 1: I've heard in the space at all. I gotta say, though, 484 00:27:41,320 --> 00:27:45,320 Speaker 1: Washington Wizards, Bradley Beale is right up there with them 485 00:27:45,359 --> 00:27:48,040 Speaker 1: talking about this. We can have everyone to hear what 486 00:27:48,080 --> 00:27:49,960 Speaker 1: he says about. Remember, these are these are you know, 487 00:27:50,080 --> 00:27:53,760 Speaker 1: big NBA players, a lot of influence, and they're saying, look, 488 00:27:53,760 --> 00:27:55,080 Speaker 1: I'm not getting the shot, and they're making a lot 489 00:27:55,080 --> 00:27:57,880 Speaker 1: of sense. This is not what we saw a week 490 00:27:57,960 --> 00:28:02,240 Speaker 1: or so ago, where it was what's the the oh 491 00:28:02,320 --> 00:28:06,159 Speaker 1: Cardi b? Uh No, it wasn't card wasn't Cardi B. 492 00:28:06,320 --> 00:28:09,280 Speaker 1: It was who was the who was the singer the route? 493 00:28:09,359 --> 00:28:12,840 Speaker 1: Nicki Minaj? Nicki Minaj. My apologies to Cardi B and 494 00:28:12,880 --> 00:28:15,800 Speaker 1: Nicki Minaj for getting them getting confused. But it's not 495 00:28:15,920 --> 00:28:20,040 Speaker 1: the swollen Man area tweet. I mean, these guys are 496 00:28:20,040 --> 00:28:24,199 Speaker 1: talking about this with eloquence and thoughtfulness. There's the question 497 00:28:24,280 --> 00:28:27,800 Speaker 1: belling and they're gonna start editing them on social media 498 00:28:27,840 --> 00:28:30,440 Speaker 1: because this thing's gone viral. Over a million people now 499 00:28:30,520 --> 00:28:33,520 Speaker 1: have seen the clip from Jonathan Isaac that we just played. So, 500 00:28:33,720 --> 00:28:35,960 Speaker 1: like I said, if you've got if you're affected by this, 501 00:28:36,200 --> 00:28:38,480 Speaker 1: the mandate in New York or anywhere any state across 502 00:28:38,520 --> 00:28:41,160 Speaker 1: the country. If you're an a get the shot, you're 503 00:28:41,160 --> 00:28:42,960 Speaker 1: a healthcare worker or a teacher, get the shot or 504 00:28:43,000 --> 00:28:45,600 Speaker 1: lose your job situation. Please let us know about it. 505 00:28:45,640 --> 00:28:47,360 Speaker 1: Eight hundred two eight two two eight eight two. We'll 506 00:28:47,400 --> 00:28:50,800 Speaker 1: come back and hear from Washington Wizards Bradley Beale on 507 00:28:50,840 --> 00:28:54,800 Speaker 1: this as well, another NBA player. Excellent explanation from him 508 00:28:54,880 --> 00:28:57,480 Speaker 1: on all this. And then we've also got Jim Jordan 509 00:28:57,520 --> 00:28:59,560 Speaker 1: on the budget top of the next hour. He's gonna 510 00:28:59,560 --> 00:29:03,000 Speaker 1: break it down down. Jim Jordan is going to have 511 00:29:03,080 --> 00:29:06,680 Speaker 1: a head toss of the socialists, a double leg takedown, 512 00:29:06,720 --> 00:29:09,680 Speaker 1: if you will, Clay, perhaps a full Nelson, even though 513 00:29:09,680 --> 00:29:12,840 Speaker 1: I believe it is banned in collegiate wrestling. We'll get 514 00:29:12,880 --> 00:29:15,240 Speaker 1: back to that in a second. One hundreds thousands of 515 00:29:15,240 --> 00:29:18,000 Speaker 1: people agree on one thing. You have to pay attention 516 00:29:18,040 --> 00:29:21,400 Speaker 1: to it. Look into Pure Talk cell phone service. If 517 00:29:21,400 --> 00:29:24,400 Speaker 1: you haven't already, you gotta do it today. Say goodbye, 518 00:29:24,440 --> 00:29:27,480 Speaker 1: to overpriced cell service from a Verizon AT and T 519 00:29:28,200 --> 00:29:30,920 Speaker 1: or T Mobile and switch to pure Talk. 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You can keep the same phone. 539 00:30:24,320 --> 00:30:27,360 Speaker 1: You just save a lot of money fifty percent in 540 00:30:27,440 --> 00:30:30,720 Speaker 1: fact off in your first month. Get your phones. Trust 541 00:30:30,760 --> 00:30:33,680 Speaker 1: these guys, they've been in my house like my own family. 542 00:30:33,760 --> 00:30:37,240 Speaker 1: Trust them. Pound two five zero say Pure Talk one 543 00:30:37,280 --> 00:30:40,840 Speaker 1: more time on your phone right now, Pound two five 544 00:30:41,000 --> 00:30:49,760 Speaker 1: zero say Pure Talk. Fabulous song here bringing us back. 545 00:30:49,760 --> 00:30:52,280 Speaker 1: We're starting to mix in some Clay and Buck tunes here. 546 00:30:53,640 --> 00:30:55,520 Speaker 1: I appreciate all of you hanging out with us. I'm 547 00:30:55,560 --> 00:30:59,600 Speaker 1: Clay Travis. He is Buck Sexton. We've got another clip. 548 00:30:59,640 --> 00:31:03,440 Speaker 1: I bet you never anticipated Buck, that COVID would go 549 00:31:03,560 --> 00:31:07,880 Speaker 1: so crazy that some of the top voices in the 550 00:31:08,000 --> 00:31:12,480 Speaker 1: public arena as it pertains to COVID and vaccine mandates 551 00:31:12,760 --> 00:31:15,440 Speaker 1: would be coming out of the world of athletics. We 552 00:31:15,520 --> 00:31:18,880 Speaker 1: played you, Jonathan Isaac from the Orlando Magic, and that 553 00:31:18,960 --> 00:31:22,440 Speaker 1: clip that we played you is going so viral that 554 00:31:22,600 --> 00:31:25,520 Speaker 1: I think Twitter and Facebook they're going to be coming 555 00:31:25,600 --> 00:31:30,200 Speaker 1: after him because he's sharing some inconvenient truths. And also 556 00:31:30,400 --> 00:31:34,280 Speaker 1: Bradley Beale, who is a star player for the Washington Wizards, 557 00:31:34,720 --> 00:31:38,600 Speaker 1: was asked why he was unvaccinated, and he had also 558 00:31:39,080 --> 00:31:42,760 Speaker 1: a very knowledgeable and interesting response. Here. It is every player, 559 00:31:42,760 --> 00:31:44,360 Speaker 1: every person in as well, is gonna make their own 560 00:31:44,360 --> 00:31:47,680 Speaker 1: decision for themselves. I would like an explanation to you know, 561 00:31:47,920 --> 00:31:51,440 Speaker 1: people with vaccines, why are they still getting COVID if 562 00:31:51,440 --> 00:31:54,880 Speaker 1: that's something that we are supposed to highly be protected from. Like, 563 00:31:54,920 --> 00:31:57,640 Speaker 1: that's funny that owever reduces your chances of going to 564 00:31:57,680 --> 00:32:01,160 Speaker 1: the hospital, it doesn't eliminate anybody from in COVID. Right, 565 00:32:01,480 --> 00:32:04,960 Speaker 1: So everybody is everybody in her vacs, I would assume, right, 566 00:32:05,720 --> 00:32:09,440 Speaker 1: so you all can still get COVID, right, Okay, but 567 00:32:09,760 --> 00:32:13,200 Speaker 1: you can still get COVID, right, so and you can 568 00:32:13,240 --> 00:32:16,960 Speaker 1: still pass it along with the vacs. Right I'm asking 569 00:32:16,960 --> 00:32:18,760 Speaker 1: I'm just asking the question. Yeah, I had it, but 570 00:32:18,800 --> 00:32:20,600 Speaker 1: that doesn't mean I can't get it again, you know. 571 00:32:21,160 --> 00:32:23,240 Speaker 1: I mean it's no different than somebody with the vaccine, 572 00:32:23,520 --> 00:32:25,840 Speaker 1: like I can. Yes, I developed the antibodies for it, 573 00:32:25,960 --> 00:32:29,280 Speaker 1: so my chances will be less likely now as well, right, 574 00:32:29,560 --> 00:32:32,760 Speaker 1: but it's still a possibility I make it. There are 575 00:32:32,800 --> 00:32:36,400 Speaker 1: players and coaches and staff who are vacs and missing 576 00:32:36,480 --> 00:32:39,120 Speaker 1: camp right now because of it. Everything that he says, 577 00:32:39,160 --> 00:32:42,080 Speaker 1: Clay is true. I mean it's amazing, it's amazing. But 578 00:32:42,120 --> 00:32:44,680 Speaker 1: also what he's getting to here, this is a central 579 00:32:44,720 --> 00:32:47,360 Speaker 1: point we need to you know, you're either your other 580 00:32:47,440 --> 00:32:50,280 Speaker 1: vacs you had it, or you're taking your chances. That's 581 00:32:50,280 --> 00:32:52,280 Speaker 1: where we are as a society now. There should be 582 00:32:52,320 --> 00:32:55,120 Speaker 1: no more. The problem is the vax people are actually 583 00:32:55,160 --> 00:32:59,440 Speaker 1: the most neurotic about this. The young, low risk vaccinated 584 00:33:00,280 --> 00:33:03,520 Speaker 1: MSNBC crowd are the ones that are the most freaked out, 585 00:33:03,560 --> 00:33:08,240 Speaker 1: and so they are making everybody else make unreasonable, irrational 586 00:33:08,760 --> 00:33:11,560 Speaker 1: concessions to their fear. So, I mean, what he's saying 587 00:33:11,600 --> 00:33:13,520 Speaker 1: here's yeah, okay, but even your vaccinator, you could spread 588 00:33:13,520 --> 00:33:16,440 Speaker 1: it to people. So it's not like vaccination stops it 589 00:33:16,480 --> 00:33:19,440 Speaker 1: from being spread. And I'm sorry, but we're gonna find 590 00:33:19,440 --> 00:33:22,200 Speaker 1: out more with the numbers here that people don't want 591 00:33:22,240 --> 00:33:23,880 Speaker 1: to talk about right now, Clay, have you seen I mean, 592 00:33:23,920 --> 00:33:26,719 Speaker 1: have you seen this today just from Singapore, which is 593 00:33:26,840 --> 00:33:30,280 Speaker 1: has always been a kind of benevolent police state, right, 594 00:33:30,280 --> 00:33:33,280 Speaker 1: I mean in Singapore they have absolute control over what 595 00:33:33,320 --> 00:33:36,520 Speaker 1: people do. And obviously it's a very very wealthy, small 596 00:33:36,560 --> 00:33:41,360 Speaker 1: country in Southeast Asia. Tiny it's really a city state country. 597 00:33:41,640 --> 00:33:47,520 Speaker 1: And Singapore's Health ministry today reported the most COVID cases 598 00:33:47,800 --> 00:33:50,360 Speaker 1: they have ever had, two thousand, two hundred and thirty 599 00:33:50,400 --> 00:33:54,960 Speaker 1: six cases by far the most clay. Over eighty percent 600 00:33:55,520 --> 00:33:59,720 Speaker 1: of Singapore is vaccinated. So we got a problem here, folks, 601 00:33:59,760 --> 00:34:05,040 Speaker 1: because we're way beyond if the vaccines could confer herd immunity. 602 00:34:05,400 --> 00:34:08,400 Speaker 1: We are beyond herd immunity numbers in some places and 603 00:34:08,520 --> 00:34:13,840 Speaker 1: not having continued cases, having all time high levels of cases. 604 00:34:14,480 --> 00:34:18,040 Speaker 1: Did you see the numbers from Marin County outside in 605 00:34:18,080 --> 00:34:20,359 Speaker 1: the Bay Area. I think I'm pronouncing that right. One 606 00:34:20,400 --> 00:34:22,560 Speaker 1: of the most I think, but yeah, yeah, Marin County 607 00:34:22,840 --> 00:34:26,720 Speaker 1: one of the most highly vaccinated places in the entire 608 00:34:27,400 --> 00:34:32,040 Speaker 1: in the entire country, ninety six percent adult vaccination rate. Buck. 609 00:34:32,360 --> 00:34:36,360 Speaker 1: They are approaching a new high in COVID hospitalizations. The 610 00:34:36,400 --> 00:34:38,640 Speaker 1: reason why I bring that up is Joe Biden yesterday 611 00:34:38,640 --> 00:34:40,799 Speaker 1: while he was getting his booster shot, was asked, Hey, 612 00:34:40,800 --> 00:34:43,160 Speaker 1: when can we get back to normalcy? And he said 613 00:34:43,160 --> 00:34:46,759 Speaker 1: when ninety seven or ninety eight percent of people are vaccinated. Well, 614 00:34:46,760 --> 00:34:50,600 Speaker 1: that's where Marin County is, right, They've already reached that level, 615 00:34:50,960 --> 00:34:54,440 Speaker 1: and yet they are approaching a new high on hospitalizations. 616 00:34:55,000 --> 00:34:57,360 Speaker 1: So yeah, no, I was gonna say, we got do 617 00:34:57,360 --> 00:34:58,880 Speaker 1: you want to take I mean, Holly's a nurse in 618 00:34:58,920 --> 00:35:02,800 Speaker 1: California who faced Yes, Hollie, we want to take some calls. 619 00:35:02,840 --> 00:35:09,759 Speaker 1: What do you got for us, Holly? Hi? Um, yeah, 620 00:35:10,200 --> 00:35:14,359 Speaker 1: I'm I live in California. I am a registered nurse 621 00:35:14,440 --> 00:35:19,759 Speaker 1: with thirty years experience in labor and delivery. And because 622 00:35:19,920 --> 00:35:23,600 Speaker 1: I am opting not to take the vaccination, I am 623 00:35:23,719 --> 00:35:32,640 Speaker 1: facing dismissal. Have you had covid um? I can honestly say, 624 00:35:32,760 --> 00:35:34,920 Speaker 1: how could I not have had it working in the 625 00:35:34,960 --> 00:35:39,040 Speaker 1: hospital for the last two year and a half years. So, 626 00:35:39,080 --> 00:35:40,919 Speaker 1: HOLLI are you gonna Are you gonna forego the shot 627 00:35:41,000 --> 00:35:42,719 Speaker 1: and leave your job or do you think that you're 628 00:35:42,760 --> 00:35:45,319 Speaker 1: just gonna make the decision that you gotta concede on 629 00:35:45,320 --> 00:35:50,760 Speaker 1: this one? Um, I am not going to take the shots, 630 00:35:51,080 --> 00:35:53,520 Speaker 1: and if it comes down to me having to leave 631 00:35:53,600 --> 00:35:56,640 Speaker 1: my job, unfortunately, I will do that because this is 632 00:35:56,680 --> 00:36:00,160 Speaker 1: a cause that I believe in. And no, I will 633 00:36:00,200 --> 00:36:02,520 Speaker 1: not take the vaccination. It's about control now. It's not 634 00:36:02,680 --> 00:36:06,279 Speaker 1: about it's the vaccination now. It's about control now. And no, 635 00:36:06,640 --> 00:36:09,120 Speaker 1: I refuse to take the shot. I'm going to walk 636 00:36:09,160 --> 00:36:14,320 Speaker 1: away from a thirty year career. Holly, we appreciate it 637 00:36:14,360 --> 00:36:16,680 Speaker 1: and sharing us with us play like a lot of 638 00:36:16,719 --> 00:36:19,600 Speaker 1: New Yorkers right now facing that decision, and they're making 639 00:36:19,640 --> 00:36:22,640 Speaker 1: the holly choice here. People feel very strongly about it. 640 00:36:22,640 --> 00:36:25,280 Speaker 1: We've got Jim Jordan from Congress talking about the budget 641 00:36:25,320 --> 00:36:27,439 Speaker 1: and much more in just a few minutes play. We'll 642 00:36:27,719 --> 00:36:36,960 Speaker 1: kick us off with that one stick around. 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