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Speaker 1: Hey there, folks, it is Saturday, March twenty eighth, and

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Speaker 1: how long is too long to be engaged? That question,

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Speaker 1: plus a drunken night out with robox Mom, has now

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Speaker 1: triggered our wedding planning. And with that, welcome to this

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Speaker 1: episode of Amy and DJ. And all of that is true.

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Speaker 1: I don't know how we end up where we are

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Speaker 1: right now, but we have just been would you not say,

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Speaker 1: Robes in the past twenty four to forty eight hours

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Speaker 1: have had more serious talks about wedding planning than we

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Speaker 1: have since we got engaged.

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Speaker 2: Yes, that is true. And we just came back from

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Speaker 2: a trip to Atlanta and we.

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Speaker 3: Saw my mom.

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Speaker 1: No girl, it's a good night out and it was

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Speaker 1: so fun.

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Speaker 2: We had a blast, too much fun actually, But yes, look,

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Speaker 2: it comes up inevitably, just kind of questions about if

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Speaker 2: we had considered when we were getting married. We get

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Speaker 2: asked every time we go out with friends. Some people

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Speaker 2: will it's always just a kind curiosity.

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Speaker 1: Even randoms. Sometimes. We were at the next game the

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Speaker 1: other day, the first person we saw was Tracy Morgan.

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Speaker 1: He's pressing us, when are you getting married?

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Speaker 3: Pressing us, why are you waiting?

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Speaker 1: Pressing us? To get all right. So, yes, everybody does it, so.

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Speaker 3: We had to be totally honest.

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Speaker 2: I really do think we aren't deliberately avoiding the conversation.

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Speaker 2: I do think we are actually so busy and we

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Speaker 2: have you know what, that's not fair because we have

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Speaker 2: prioritize vacation planning. There are other things that we be

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Speaker 2: put that ahead, and so without talking about it, we

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Speaker 2: have put it on the back burner, even discussing the plants.

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Speaker 2: It's not like we wanted to wait a year because

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Speaker 2: of X, or we need to wait until we get

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Speaker 2: to this. There is none of that. We just aren't

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Speaker 2: discussing it. We did say that we are enjoying saying fiance.

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Speaker 2: That's fun, like that's a fun stage of a relationship.

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Speaker 2: So we kind of don't want that to end. And

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Speaker 2: there maybe is this fear in the back of both

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Speaker 2: of our minds that we're not discussing about what marriage

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Speaker 2: might do to our relationship.

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Speaker 1: Really, that's not the bad has not been in the

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Speaker 1: back of my mind. I didn't realize it was in

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Speaker 1: the back of you.

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Speaker 2: I'm just wondering if subconsciously all playing a role based

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Speaker 2: on our other relationships. I don't know I'm just wondering

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Speaker 2: if that is maybe something in our subconscious or is

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Speaker 2: it that I'm afraid that what I want isn't what

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Speaker 2: you want, or what you want isn't.

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Speaker 3: What I want. I don't know because we haven't talked about.

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Speaker 1: It, we folks, Despite what anything you've read, we have

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Speaker 1: not had a serious conversation about time, place, attendees.

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Speaker 2: Nothing, No, And you actually said to me today, all right,

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Speaker 2: should we start talking about like what do we need

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Speaker 2: to figure out everything? We need to figure out who

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Speaker 2: we want there, where we want it to take place,

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Speaker 2: and when we want it to happen. And we have

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Speaker 2: not not actually come to a discussion about any of

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Speaker 2: those things.

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Speaker 1: We have nothing.

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Speaker 2: We've thrown ideas out about who, and that's it. We

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Speaker 2: haven't well, maybe we've thrown some ideas out about where,

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Speaker 2: but we certainly have not discussed when.

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Speaker 1: We have not had a substance of conversation about our

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Speaker 1: wedding at all since we got engaged. And that's pushed

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Speaker 1: me to ask you what's the right amount of time?

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Speaker 1: How long is too long? I think I put it

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Speaker 1: that way. How long is too long? Now? Just top

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Speaker 1: of your head before we start, we actually google this,

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Speaker 1: But off the top of your head, how long is

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Speaker 1: too long? What would your answer have been.

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Speaker 2: I think I would have said anything over three years.

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Speaker 1: Why three?

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Speaker 2: Just because it's like, at that point, what are you

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Speaker 2: waiting for. It's not like there's a venue you've waited for,

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Speaker 2: or I guess if you had some short term financial goal,

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Speaker 2: if you haven't reached it at that point, I don't know.

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Speaker 2: It would just be like, maybe there's another issue, there's

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Speaker 2: another thing going on that you're not addressing, and there's

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Speaker 2: a reason why you're deliberately dragging your feet that is

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Speaker 2: dragging your feet.

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Speaker 1: Let me ask you this, Should there be a minimum

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Speaker 1: time of engagement? Yes, I do think so why do

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Speaker 1: you think that should be?

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Speaker 2: I think that you should. I think you should give

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Speaker 2: it a year. I think you should spend a year

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Speaker 2: with the idea that everyone you know and love, and

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Speaker 2: everyone you meet, and every person you might encounter who

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Speaker 2: could be a potential suitor, even that you have publicly

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Speaker 2: decision because it is actually I think, having now gone

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Speaker 2: through two divorces a hundred percent, and I did not

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Speaker 2: take it seriously.

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Speaker 1: How long were you engagement?

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Speaker 2: So? My first one was a year okay, and my

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Speaker 2: second one was four month stably.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, how about you?

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Speaker 1: Uh first one was non existent, kind of an eloping thing,

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Speaker 1: and the second was the year okay.

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Speaker 3: So I do think you a year will help.

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Speaker 2: Obviously it didn't matter necessarily with either of us, but

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Speaker 2: I think that that gives you the opportunity to really

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Speaker 2: let it sink in. I just was so young, I

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Speaker 2: was still so focused on my career. I wasn't actually

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Speaker 2: letting anything sink in. I was just like, next, next, next,

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Speaker 2: I was just checking boxes.

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Speaker 1: Okay. Sorry, you weren't talking about suitors with next.

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Speaker 4: No, But what I needed to know I was just

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Speaker 4: joking a second. We were talking about marriage, and that's okay.

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Speaker 4: So is there any reason then to wait? You said

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Speaker 4: three years is too long, you should give it at

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Speaker 4: least a year then, but what, well, I'll go ahead.

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Speaker 1: You like you were about to jump in there. But yeah,

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Speaker 1: is there any reason to wait? I guess it depends

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Speaker 1: on Okay, I won't incorporate us into this yet, what

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Speaker 1: reason can and you give to wait, you said, yes,

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Speaker 1: you want to marry me, I want to marry you

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Speaker 1: might as well go get married tomorrow.

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Speaker 2: I would think the only time, or the only instance

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Speaker 2: where it would make sense is if you were long

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Speaker 2: distance and you knew, once I get this degree or

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Speaker 2: once I get this job, I can move and we

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Speaker 2: can live in the same city, and I can understand

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Speaker 2: not wanting to get married, and so you can actually

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Speaker 1: Okay, that makes sense. Okay, that's practical. Yes, okay, but

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Speaker 1: you live on that side of town. I'm over here.

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Speaker 1: What is? What is?

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Speaker 2: Then?

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Speaker 3: I think you'd have to ask yourself why are you waiting?

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Speaker 1: Like what?

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Speaker 3: Why wouldn't you just go ahead and get married?

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Speaker 1: Okay, that's the question. A lot of people wait because

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Speaker 1: they're planning a wedding, right, you need to That's true.

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Speaker 3: You have to get you have to wait for a

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Speaker 1: Okay, all that aside. If someone says, will you marry

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Speaker 1: me and the response is yes, throw out the practical

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Speaker 1: things you talked about with the planning of the wedding

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Speaker 1: and someone graduate from college, da da is there any

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Speaker 1: reason you need to sit with an engagement no matter

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Speaker 1: what for a little while.

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Speaker 2: Would you say yes, I think if you how long

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Speaker 2: have you known each other before the engagement?

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Speaker 3: I think that's really important.

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Speaker 2: So you know, when you said I thought you might

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Speaker 2: be trying to jump in, I was going to jump

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Speaker 2: in with us because I was actually gonna say, I

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Speaker 2: think you have to consider the fact that we have

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Speaker 2: been close friends for eight years before we even started dating,

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Speaker 2: and then we took and.

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Speaker 3: It was very tumultuous. I think it would have been

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Speaker 3: very well advised to wait.

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Speaker 2: We took from the time I think I guess what

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Speaker 2: was it almost almost three years right until from the

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Speaker 2: time we were in a romantic relationship until the time

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Speaker 2: you proposed it was almost three years. I've only wow, Wow,

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Speaker 2: we actually have a slow rollship. I think we would

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Speaker 2: be an exception that we could have gotten married probably the.

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Speaker 3: Next day, and it doesn't make a difference.

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Speaker 2: I don't need to test us or learn more about

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Speaker 2: you or your family, or how you act or react

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Speaker 2: to hard times. Been there, done that? Act to good times?

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Speaker 2: How do we live our days together? You know, just

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Speaker 2: doing nothing together. We've done all of that. We've traveled

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Speaker 2: the world together. So I don't need to find anything

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Speaker 2: else out about you at this point. I think we've

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Speaker 2: been managing our communication skills and that level of intimacy

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Speaker 2: and understanding I think has been it's been important. I'm

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Speaker 2: glad we've taken the time to do that because it

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Speaker 2: is a transition to go from a friendship to a

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Speaker 2: romance and tell folks, what.

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Speaker 1: Is the You did the some quick research. You can

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Speaker 1: cite the source, but I don't know it sounds about right.

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Speaker 1: The average length of time that engagements are these days.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the knot says that the average length of an

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Speaker 2: engagement is fifteen months, and it's been that exact same

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Speaker 2: length of time since twenty twenty two. So for the

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Speaker 2: last four years, fifteen months is the average. And they

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Speaker 3: And that is that does make a lot of sense.

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Speaker 2: I think for the timing of people mostly want these

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Speaker 2: big weddings and so, yes, you've got a book a venue,

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Speaker 2: you've got a book of floorist. Sometimes you have to

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Speaker 2: of that. So I would imagine that plays a lot

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Speaker 1: Does it take away there and we said this. So

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Speaker 1: we just are enjoying being engaged. It's fun that we

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Speaker 1: know we have something to look forward to. Even the

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Speaker 1: way people talk to you is is a little different.

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Speaker 1: I yeah, isn't that? Yes, that's a worthy time.

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Speaker 3: It's been fun and I have enjoyed it and I

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Speaker 3: really do like it. But we just did the math.

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Speaker 3: What is it seven months we've been engaged now, So

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Speaker 3: I'm at a.

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Speaker 2: Point now where and even talking to my mom, I

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Speaker 2: do want to start making plans.

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Speaker 3: It doesn't have to be tomorrow.

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Speaker 2: It doesn't have to be six months for now, but

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Speaker 2: I would like to kind of you and I sit

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Speaker 2: down and actually say this. If I ranked the top

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Speaker 2: three ways we did it, who I'd want there?

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Speaker 3: And when we did it? I think we just we

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Speaker 3: need to start having those conversations.

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Speaker 1: Okay, why haven't we had those conversations yet, one might ask.

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Speaker 1: We'll have that answer for you when we come back. Also,

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Speaker 1: I will tell you about this wild drunken night out

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Speaker 1: with Rollbox Mama. All right, we continue here on Amy

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Speaker 1: and TJ. How long it's too long to be engaged?

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Speaker 1: We're within the right windows. Seven months isn't terrible? We okay,

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Speaker 1: still got some time. I can stretch this thing out

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Speaker 1: as long as we need to. Everything's all right, You're

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Speaker 1: I don't know you You did have a moment. I

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Speaker 1: guess with your mom, more so because people ask us

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Speaker 1: all the time when you when's wedding and when you

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Speaker 1: guys get get married, and a lot of people put

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Speaker 2: Way, a non pushy way, just suggest or just definitely

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Speaker 1: Well, that all you just said makes perfect sense, and

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Speaker 1: Well, it seemed you get to a point and you

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Speaker 2: I really think now that's a cool thing after everything

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Speaker 1: And I assure you Folks, as you're listening to us,

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Speaker 1: There's been nothing else. It's been wild Robes to read

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Speaker 3: It was fun. She got to tell stories about how

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Speaker 2: Having a blast reminiscing, going over old times. And it

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Speaker 1: Really, And it was Margarita after skinny Margarita after skinny Margarita.

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Speaker 1: Thank you to the folks at the four season there

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Speaker 1: who round too in the lobby as well. I hadn't

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Speaker 2: And she had no idea who he was, no idea,

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Speaker 1: I don't. The thing is, I just wanted to I

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Speaker 1: I just wanted to enjoy this. It's just fun. After that,

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Speaker 1: Let's just let's just you know what. It has a

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Speaker 1: why are we waiting to delay?

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Speaker 3: Tell me the whin you want me to say when?

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Speaker 1: If you don't want to, that's fine.

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Speaker 3: I was just thinking tell me the win.

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Speaker 1: Well, you don't have to hear, because then we commit

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Speaker 1: Is there aware I do?

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Speaker 3: I had something in mind?

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Speaker 1: I hold everything, you're holding all of it.

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna hold it all.

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Speaker 1: Okay. Then all right, folks, Well, we always appreciate you

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