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Speaker 1: Now here's a highlight from Coast to Coast AM on

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Speaker 2: Welcome back to Coast to Coast. George Nori with you.

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Speaker 2: Jesse Sternberg with us, founder of the Peaceful Alpha Method.

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Speaker 2: We'll talk about that in a moment. He teaches that

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Speaker 2: dogs do not follow force, but follow calm strength. After

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Speaker 2: years of working with powerful breeds, Jesse discovered something deeper.

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Speaker 2: That dogs have their own language and it's based on

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Speaker 2: signals and feelings, which is why they respond to your

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Speaker 2: inner state before they respond to your words. His book

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Speaker 2: is called we Are Deeper Than You Think. Dogs Guides

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Speaker 2: to I mean, signals for humans. Jesse, Welcome to Coast

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Speaker 2: to Coast.

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Speaker 3: Hey George, thanks for having me.

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Speaker 2: Looking forward to this. You're up there in Canada, aren't you?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: How are things up there?

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Speaker 3: Beautiful? Spring just hit, so it's beautiful.

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Speaker 2: Now will it stay or will it get a little colder?

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Speaker 3: We've already had a little bit of a hint of

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Speaker 3: it coming and going, so I'm optimistic.

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Speaker 2: I know Saint Louis, where I normally am. It hit

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Speaker 2: eighty six degrees today. What's going on? Jesse?

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Speaker 3: I'm just happy to be here and have the opportunity

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Speaker 3: to share what I know to be true about our animals.

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Speaker 2: How did you get involved in this kind of work?

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Speaker 3: The executive summary is about twenty five years ago in

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Speaker 3: my twenties, I had a spirit I had a mystical

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Speaker 3: spiritual awakening experience which changed me basically. It brought me

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Speaker 3: into the present moment and rewired me for about a

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Speaker 3: day to experience things way differently than I'd ever have

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Speaker 3: and that set me on a different path, and I

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Speaker 3: just decided I wanted to from then on, I just

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Speaker 3: wanted to do what I want to do, what I

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Speaker 3: was passionate about. So I got into dogs about twenty

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Speaker 3: five years ago.

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Speaker 2: Tell us about the awakening. What happened.

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Speaker 3: I used to come home from work and to relax,

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Speaker 3: I would I would have a toke and I would

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Speaker 3: put a yoga video on. And at the end of

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Speaker 3: the yoga video, about a month into it, I turned

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Speaker 3: into white light and it lasted who knows how long,

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Speaker 3: but it was dark outside when I came out of it,

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Speaker 3: and I just wanted to know what that was.

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Speaker 2: Did you find out?

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Speaker 3: I think I found out, Yeah, I did.

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Speaker 2: And then what made you levitate two animals? Dogs specifically?

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Speaker 3: Well on the journey. Soon after that, as I was

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Speaker 3: reading everything I could to discover what that was, I

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Speaker 3: found out this yoga book by Deepak Chopra, and he said,

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Speaker 3: if you do what you love and if you're serving others,

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Speaker 3: you're the universe won't let you fail. And so I

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Speaker 3: opened up I think I was like twenty five years old.

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Speaker 3: They opened up a dog daycare.

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Speaker 2: Oh good for you, and I just.

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Speaker 3: Sort of followed the I just followed the path.

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Speaker 2: And our senior producer rescued a dog years ago. You know,

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Speaker 2: a little little guy named Freddie who was passed on.

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Speaker 2: But there's something very special about people who saved the

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Speaker 2: life of an animal. Don't you think.

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Speaker 3: They have a big heart? That's for sure, don't they?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? Absolutely. Now you have what is called the peaceful

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Speaker 2: Alpha method. What is.

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Speaker 3: This is a This is a coin. This is a

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Speaker 3: term that I use to describe So when I'm working

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Speaker 3: with my dog training clients, I'm not necessarily training the

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Speaker 3: dogs so much as I'm training the person. It's easy

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Speaker 3: to talk to the dogs. For me. The talent is

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Speaker 3: in training the people so that they can connect to

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Speaker 3: their dog. They're the parent, they're the dog parent, and

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Speaker 3: so the character that our dogs crave our from us

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Speaker 3: as the dog parent is what I call the peaceful Alpha.

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Speaker 3: I don't want to upset anybody with the alpha term,

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Speaker 3: so I frame it as this is a person who

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Speaker 3: trains their dog with every flavor of love available, not

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Speaker 3: just the positive reinforcement love, but also the self respect love,

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Speaker 3: the personal boundaries, love, the holding your dog accountable love,

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Speaker 3: the kindness and presence love, empathy, approaching, the meeting the

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Speaker 3: dog at their level and behaving like a cat. Okay,

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Speaker 3: that's what the peaceful Alpha method is.

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Speaker 2: I've had a Golden Retriever in my life and then

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Speaker 2: breed is so human like, or even beyond human like, it's.

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Speaker 3: Incredible, right right, that feeling, could you describe? Describe that

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Speaker 3: feeling that it gives you, because that's, uh, that's what

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Speaker 2: It's it's almost as if you're dealing with a person.

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Speaker 3: At the soule level. Right, Yeah, Well, there's a soul

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Speaker 3: it's my belief that animals are our sacred teachers. They're here,

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Speaker 3: we have agreements with them. Many times. They've been our

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Speaker 3: pet in past lives, and they're here to either be

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Speaker 2: How important are they to the lifestyle of the human

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Speaker 2: When you own.

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Speaker 3: One, it's your if you're doing it right, it's probably

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Speaker 3: the number one responsibility and the number one reward.

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Speaker 2: I mean, it truly is remarkable. Do you find that

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Speaker 2: different breeds have different reactions?

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Speaker 3: It's a good question to an extent, yes, but no,

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Speaker 3: I don't go into any clickcase where I'm concerned about

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Speaker 3: the breed because a scared Chiawah is more dangerous than

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Speaker 3: the personality and the the trauma, the trauma history, and

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Speaker 3: really how the dog deals with social cues. So it's

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Speaker 3: an emotional intelligence situation.

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Speaker 2: Now, do you deal primarily with dogs as opposed to

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Speaker 3: Yeah, primarily dogs, But if it's a multi pad home,

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Speaker 3: I'm coming in and restoring harmony for the cats as well.

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Speaker 2: Because the cats have the same kind of ability, don't.

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Speaker 3: They They do, but they have a different consciousness, they

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Speaker 3: have a different frame of reference, they have a different

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Speaker 3: operating system. Cats are independent and dogs are unity consciousness.

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Speaker 3: They're a pack species, they're a high heart. They feel

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Speaker 3: what the pack feels. Well, all animals, but cats are

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Speaker 3: quite independent and I find way more intelligent. You don't

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Speaker 2: That's factally. When you let a cat go, it sometimes

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Speaker 2: doesn't come back.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, and if you DoD does yeah.

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Speaker 4: And I know you're going to want some the after

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Speaker 4: hearing this. This is an amazing story. We've got Stephen

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Speaker 4: and Malachi Gregory in Nelson, New Zealand. I understand that Malachi,

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Speaker 4: who is eight almost nine years old now, was suffering

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Speaker 4: with not just one or two warts, but I mean

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Speaker 4: as significant outbreak of warts all over his body, so

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Speaker 4: significant it impacted his ability to really function.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, he was having trouble even holding a pencil to

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Speaker 5: the right Epi's book. Actually that got me thinking about it.

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Speaker 1: I'm not surprised.

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Speaker 4: It is an amazing immuno modulator, and so I can

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Speaker 4: see that it would work. And so at what point

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Speaker 4: did you see that there was actually movement is really

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Speaker 5: Well, we really started to notice it around twelve weeks.

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Speaker 5: You can see these things actually getting smaller and smaller

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Speaker 5: and then going down to with just little red monks.

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Speaker 5: The whole things are gone and we're talking about what's

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Speaker 5: you know one the size of the warner. I thought,

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Speaker 5: no way, that's gonna Wow. That's just been miraculous to

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Speaker 5: see them get into a pair of shoes.

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Speaker 1: Yes, how wonderful.

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Speaker 5: It's great to see. I'm so happy and yees.

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Speaker 4: Compident, absolutely wonderful.

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Speaker 1: Friends that have seen it, that is blown away.

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Speaker 2: Hi, this is awesome.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, this is awesome.

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Speaker 2: Can you've been doing this twenty some years now? What

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Speaker 2: has been some of your most amazing stories?

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Speaker 3: Wow? My favorite kind of story is typical rescue or

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Speaker 2: How do you know that a dog is scared?

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Speaker 7: Well, in my in my case, I have the ability

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Speaker 7: to feel what they feel, but they show it, They

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Speaker 3: They have a tight body, and they reveal it instantly

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Speaker 3: the moment you meet them. They're They're instinct is to

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Speaker 3: not get close. They're cautious, they're jumpy. Usually they're trying

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Speaker 2: Have you had dogs that attack you? Of course, yeah,

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Speaker 3: Well, in there, I'm not provoking them, but I am

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Speaker 3: applying pressure just by coming in the doorway.

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Speaker 3: Well, okay, so let's say a client calls me up

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Speaker 3: My dog's very aggressive. Just showing up on the doorstep,

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Speaker 3: going to always think that the mailman is a security breach,

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Speaker 3: to that dog's environment doesn't mean I'm doing it to

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Speaker 3: dog through it's fear to help them heal Jessee.

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Speaker 2: What causes a dog to want to bite somebody.

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Speaker 3: At the emotional level, they're scared. They're not socialized to

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Speaker 2: And they think by biting you does.

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Speaker 3: What while they know that by showing aggression it creates

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Speaker 3: a lot of space. The owner's back away, the people

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Speaker 2: They get scared.

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Speaker 3: They're there. They're living in feeling scared. They're living in avoidance.

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Speaker 2: Can a dog feel fear?

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Speaker 3: Dogs feel before dogs. Dogs communicate with feelings. They feel

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Speaker 3: fear intensely. They feel everything intensely. That's why their favorite

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Speaker 3: emotion is calm tranquility, uh, which is contrary to what

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Speaker 2: Can you calm a dog down by your voice?

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Speaker 3: I can calm a dog down. No, you know what

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Speaker 3: that's I don't want listeners to think that you calm

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Speaker 8: You also also complain that presence. Sure, Sure, when you

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Speaker 8: meet a dog at their level, you're you're automatically saying

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Speaker 8: I understand the angle that's forbidden, The straight line angle

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Speaker 8: can intensify that confrontational energy by making yourself taller and

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Speaker 8: by moving closer and by moving faster. So reverse engineer

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Speaker 8: that calming is honoring that angle to the maximum level

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Speaker 8: a group of dogs, they're honoring this angle beautifully. And

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Speaker 8: watching you. Never not watching your angle, never not paying

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Speaker 8: attention to your volume, never not feeling your level of

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Speaker 8: of hold com poys is a very high value trait

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Speaker 8: for a dog owner. I'm not talking, you know, turn

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Speaker 8: it on and turn off. I'm talking keep it on.

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Speaker 2: Tell me if we did this the right way. Whenever

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Speaker 2: we would buy a little puppy, we'd go to the

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Speaker 2: breeder and there'd be let's say, six puppies all running around.

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Speaker 2: We would select the one that came running up to us.

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Speaker 3: We did it wrong.

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Speaker 2: I did it wrong. Really?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, you know there's an aspect to that where

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Speaker 3: you could say, well, they were magnetized to you and

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Speaker 3: you got the right one.

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Speaker 8: I mean it worked, it does.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, listen, you can't do George, you can't do this

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Speaker 3: the wrong way. You want to know how I pick them.

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Speaker 2: Well, first of all, tell me what we did wrong.

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Speaker 3: You made the first easy choice, and I think you

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Speaker 3: chose the one that your ego fell in love with,

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Speaker 3: not the wise choice.

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Speaker 2: We picked the friendliest one.

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Speaker 3: Well that's your definition. You picked the most confident one

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Speaker 3: out of the six. You pick the fastest, right, the

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Speaker 3: one that has the calmest temperament in stressful situations?

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Speaker 2: I don't know.

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Speaker 3: I know you have to look for that. Did you

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Speaker 3: pick you know? Did you pick the one that maybe

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Speaker 3: There's going to be way too much of a headache

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Speaker 3: when they're happy and excited. It's hard to know. It's

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Speaker 3: too early to tell, but but the one that I

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Speaker 3: rush to get you because they've got some wisdom. They

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Speaker 3: want to size you up a little bit. They are

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Speaker 3: not competitive with the other pack, which means they're not

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Speaker 3: going to get into fights over toys or they're not

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Speaker 3: going to be needy for attention. So when guests come over,

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Speaker 3: this one's not going to be ripping up to the

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Speaker 2: Everybody you look at all that don't you.

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Speaker 3: Well, it reveals itself to you from their personality, from

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Speaker 2: Now we must have locked out though, getting the one

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Speaker 3: Most people luck out in the game. Hey, dogs, dogs

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Speaker 3: are around for a reason. Good people have good dogs.

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Speaker 2: Was our decision to pick the one that came running

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Speaker 2: up first better than picking one that didn't come up

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Speaker 2: to us?

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Speaker 3: No, that's what I'm saying. Is I'm saying everybody makes

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Speaker 3: the decision that you make, and I think the I

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Speaker 3: think my decision is the better one.

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Speaker 2: Interesting, when we open up our phone lines next hour,

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Speaker 2: let's see from people.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, now I think both are I think both

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Speaker 3: of us are good guys, and so we're going to

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Speaker 3: have a good dog either way.

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