WEBVTT - Civic Cipher 073022 Why Do We Support Systems Rooted in White Supremacy (Part 1)

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to another episode of Civic Czicher. I'm your host,

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<v Speaker 1>Ramsy's Jah he is Jah, I am q Ward. This

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<v Speaker 1>is Civic Excpheress. It is another great show in store

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<v Speaker 1>for you this week. Be sure to stick around. We

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<v Speaker 1>have a lot to talk about, as per usual, but

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<v Speaker 1>this week we're going to do a bit of a hodgepodge.

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<v Speaker 1>We had a lot of issues and topics come our

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<v Speaker 1>way this week, and so we got a lot to cover.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, we always complain about there not being enough

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<v Speaker 1>show to cover everything that comes our way, so we're

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<v Speaker 1>going to try to address that a bit. We're still

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<v Speaker 1>not going to get to everything, but obviously there's a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of stuff that's sort of piled up that we

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<v Speaker 1>haven't been able to get to. So we're going to

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<v Speaker 1>spend the first part of the show talking about in

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<v Speaker 1>the way that we continue to endorse and support systems

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<v Speaker 1>that fail us, particularly systems rooted in white supremacy and

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<v Speaker 1>racism that historically have harmed black and brown people, and

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<v Speaker 1>we're going to you know, go through some examples that

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<v Speaker 1>have been in the news lately, and it's kind of

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<v Speaker 1>you know, we've been wrestling with that question a bit

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<v Speaker 1>around here, But I guess we're going to have a

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<v Speaker 1>more general conversation with you, our listeners and obviously amongst

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<v Speaker 1>ourselves here in the studio. We're also going to talk

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<v Speaker 1>about some real accountability with respect to policing in the

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<v Speaker 1>way that the government looks at policing and the government

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<v Speaker 1>continues to support the institution despite how the numbers paint

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<v Speaker 1>the picture the reality for black and brown people in

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<v Speaker 1>this country. So another thing that we have to deal with.

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<v Speaker 1>And then obviously our producer, Maggie B. Knowing and her

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<v Speaker 1>infinite wisdom and her be known thought that we should

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<v Speaker 1>take a look at the origins of modern day policing

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<v Speaker 1>by taking our way black history fact to these slave patrols.

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<v Speaker 1>So again, a lot to stick around for today's show.

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<v Speaker 1>But first and foremost, we are going to discuss q's

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<v Speaker 1>favorite segment, Ebony Excellence. Shall We We Shall? Today's Ebony

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<v Speaker 1>learn a bit more about Web three. But again, that

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<v Speaker 1>is the future and we want to shout out Ashanti

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<v Speaker 1>for being a pioneer in that arena. Now moving on,

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<v Speaker 1>we had a lot of a lot of articles pop

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<v Speaker 1>up in our group chat this week. As you may know,

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<v Speaker 1>or if you're new to the show, you may not know,

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<v Speaker 1>we have a group chat. Things that come up on

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<v Speaker 1>social media or our news feed or whatever that we

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<v Speaker 1>feel will be pertinent to this show and to our listeners.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, we discuss them and debate them in our

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<v Speaker 1>group chat before we sit down and we how shout

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<v Speaker 1>a show and then of course our producer kind of

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<v Speaker 1>whittles our conversations down to the essence and then we

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<v Speaker 1>speak to those things. But this week there were so

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<v Speaker 1>many different things that fell under the same umbrella that

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<v Speaker 1>we felt like we might be able to kind of

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<v Speaker 1>give you the listener a glimpse into what our life

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<v Speaker 1>is like in debating what it is we need to

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<v Speaker 1>talk about and what really deserves some attention this week.

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<v Speaker 1>So these are some of the headlines that hit us

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<v Speaker 1>hardest this week. We'll go through them one by one,

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<v Speaker 1>but you know, just to give you a peek behind

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<v Speaker 1>the curtain, and then also ask the question, as we

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<v Speaker 1>mentioned at the top of the show, why do we

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<v Speaker 1>continue to endorse and support systems that are failing us,

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<v Speaker 1>systems that are rooted in white supremacy and racism, and

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<v Speaker 1>that actively are harming black and brown people. So we'll

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<v Speaker 1>start with the least of the transgressions. I suppose Q,

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<v Speaker 1>you saw the news or sorry, the weather report there

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<v Speaker 1>where there was a forecast and they used the racial

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<v Speaker 1>slur in there, right, you saw that one. I think

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<v Speaker 1>you might have posted it, right, the racial slur? Yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I saw that one. So I'll read a bit about it.

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<v Speaker 1>So this one comes by the New York Post. It

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<v Speaker 1>says a racial slur scene in TV weather forecast. Quote,

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<v Speaker 1>apologize to our viewers. End quote. It was a cloudy

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<v Speaker 1>day with the chance of outrage. A graphic during the

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<v Speaker 1>Weather Channel cable Networks Local on the Eights presentation in

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<v Speaker 1>Des Moines last evening included a racial slur. The post read,

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<v Speaker 1>we removed this graphic as soon as we learned a

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<v Speaker 1>bit This did not originate with us, and we're in

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<v Speaker 1>the process of investigating it further. We apologize to our viewers.

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<v Speaker 1>End quote. So the racial slur is the one that

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<v Speaker 1>you're thinking, Yeah, that one, and it said something like,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, get ready for rain, you know, in words,

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<v Speaker 1>something like that, here your weather, inclement weather, Yeah, something

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<v Speaker 1>like that. Word. That was a very good So, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>there are a lot of people out there who are like, yo,

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<v Speaker 1>it's just a word. What's it matter. Oh, I'm sorry,

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<v Speaker 1>this is your weather my in words? Okay, okay, thank

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<v Speaker 1>you now we got it. Okay. So there are a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of people out there who might look at this

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<v Speaker 1>and be like, Okay, what does it matter. It's just

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<v Speaker 1>a word. It's the Weather Channel in Desmoin you know,

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<v Speaker 1>on and on, right. But I think there's it's hard

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<v Speaker 1>to know what the ripple effect of these things are.

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<v Speaker 1>If the initial impact doesn't move you in a significant way.

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<v Speaker 1>And for black people obviously, that word moves us in

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<v Speaker 1>a significant way. In my estimation, this is the sort

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<v Speaker 1>of thing that is among the height of disrespect where

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<v Speaker 1>someone can jokingly use the ugliest word in the English

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<v Speaker 1>language that only refers to one group of people and

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<v Speaker 1>those people have melanin in their skin, to relegate these

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<v Speaker 1>people to second class citizenship, to relegate these people to

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<v Speaker 1>the margins of society, to insult right. But the thing is,

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<v Speaker 1>what I think a lot of people don't realize is

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<v Speaker 1>that if you insult a person, okay, the person has

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<v Speaker 1>to deal with it, right, But if you insult a

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<v Speaker 1>race of people, it feels a lot heavier. It's hard

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<v Speaker 1>to shed that because at no point can you convince

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<v Speaker 1>this person that you are not that word. Right. It

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<v Speaker 1>just goes with you because you're black and everyone else black,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's it. And for people not to get a

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<v Speaker 1>sense of the gravity of it, to play with it,

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<v Speaker 1>like in the case of des Moines or this weather

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<v Speaker 1>channel in des Moines, and for it to just be broadcast,

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<v Speaker 1>it's very hurtful. But I think more more than that,

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<v Speaker 1>it just suggests that that disrespect still resides at key

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<v Speaker 1>places in society. The uh, the fact that there are

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<v Speaker 1>people who feel like this is either a joke or

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<v Speaker 1>are being deliberate in the way they choose to insult

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<v Speaker 1>one group of people and in my estimation, position themselves

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<v Speaker 1>above that group of people. You know, that is the text.

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<v Speaker 1>That's textbook white supremacy right there. Because again, this word

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<v Speaker 1>had the er you have the hard r on it,

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<v Speaker 1>you know. Ah, it's just one of those things where

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<v Speaker 1>when you look at it, you're like, shoot, man, we

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<v Speaker 1>it just reminds you of the uphill battle that we're

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<v Speaker 1>dealing with, and it reminds you that that type of thinking,

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<v Speaker 1>that type of disrespect is prevalent in spaces where you

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<v Speaker 1>wouldn't even conceive of it. You know, we talk about

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<v Speaker 1>the police a lot on the show. We never talk

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<v Speaker 1>about the Weather Channel, and yet and still guess what

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<v Speaker 1>we're talking about the Weather Channel and the fact that

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<v Speaker 1>this type of disrespect exists in places like that any thoughts.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I wouldn't even call it an uphill battle.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like we're climbing the face of a mountain, a

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<v Speaker 2>sheer cliff, right. Walking uphill is different, right, I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>it's you know, there's a incline that you have to

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<v Speaker 2>deal with. You had to fight gravity a little bit,

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<v Speaker 2>but you know, anybody able body can make it to

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<v Speaker 2>the top of heel.

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<v Speaker 1>This is different.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And we got no net, no equipment, and if

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<v Speaker 2>we get too close to the top of that thing,

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<v Speaker 2>somebody will be sure to try to push us back down.

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<v Speaker 1>Right.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, even the idea that somebody might take it

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<v Speaker 2>as a joke, that's even more. That's worse than the

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<v Speaker 2>person who said it to be mean, the person that

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<v Speaker 2>thinks that it's funny. I mean, I have to think

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<v Speaker 2>about how difficult it is to get a graphic on

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<v Speaker 2>the weather channel something seemingly benign. But we work in

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<v Speaker 2>broadcast media. Yeah, it's not like we couldn't put something

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<v Speaker 2>on Iheart's website ourselves today just because we felt like

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<v Speaker 2>there's so many checks and balances. So it didn't But

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<v Speaker 2>they say it didn't come from us, or it didn't

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<v Speaker 2>originate with us, So what it still made it to television, right,

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<v Speaker 2>So either the person who pushed the button to post

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<v Speaker 2>it thought it was funny, or like you said, really

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<v Speaker 2>wanted to to get that message out there, or they're

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<v Speaker 2>always so incompetent. I can't believe it's the ladder. I can't, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>because the weather competent people don't make it that. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>the weather channel is not this new upstart, right, you

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<v Speaker 2>know what I mean? So all right, Well, moving on.

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<v Speaker 1>Another headline that made it its way to us this

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<v Speaker 1>week was this one comes by a black enterprise whold

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<v Speaker 1>North Carolina police department quits due to quote progressively responsible

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<v Speaker 1>and quote town manager. I'll read in protest of newly

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<v Speaker 1>appointed progressively responsible town manager in North Carolina, an entire

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<v Speaker 1>police force has turned in their two weeks notice because

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<v Speaker 1>of their alleged hostile work environment. Jones has nothing but

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<v Speaker 1>a praised career during her years of public service. Jones

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<v Speaker 1>has dedicated her career to public service over the past

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<v Speaker 1>sixteen years, during which she worked in progressively responsible positions

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<v Speaker 1>with local governments in Minnesota, Virginia, South Carolina, and North Carolina.

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<v Speaker 1>This came by a press release from the town of Kenley. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>the Jones that we're speaking of is a black woman.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's important to note that. Grab her first

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<v Speaker 1>name for me. I want to make sure that I

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<v Speaker 1>mentioned that. Now. I know that you know we're reading texts.

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<v Speaker 1>I just want to make sure that we're giving credit

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<v Speaker 1>where it's due, But in essence, what happened is a

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<v Speaker 1>black woman was hired to manage a town in the

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<v Speaker 1>entire police department with That's what happened. So you know,

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<v Speaker 1>we're we're this is rather more insight into the reality

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<v Speaker 1>of our current climate. Okay, Justine Jones is the woman's name,

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<v Speaker 1>So we're rather we're taking a more a deeper look

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<v Speaker 1>rather into what we're dealing with here. This is this

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<v Speaker 1>is this week, but this is all the time. These

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<v Speaker 1>are just kind of smaller articles that we just don't

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<v Speaker 1>really need, we don't really get to and we can't

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<v Speaker 1>when we're dealing with death and you know, those sorts

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<v Speaker 1>of things. But imagine the town, the culture of the town,

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<v Speaker 1>imagine the the way the way it feels to be

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<v Speaker 1>a black woman. You know, we we spent a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of time on this show celebrating Justice Brown Jackson's appointment

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<v Speaker 1>to the Supreme Court. Do you remember when Joe Biden

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<v Speaker 1>won the presidency? Q. We were we did a whole

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<v Speaker 1>we dedicated a whole segment to Kamala Harris being the

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<v Speaker 1>first black woman vice president, and uh, you know, we

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<v Speaker 1>are big fans of Black Girl magic around here, and

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<v Speaker 1>if we weren't, Maggie b Known would certainly make sure

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<v Speaker 1>that we were because she is is a super fan

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<v Speaker 1>of Black Girl Magic.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, if we weren't, we wouldn't have the relationship

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<v Speaker 2>that we have with Maggie exactly. So let's start there.

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<v Speaker 2>She I don't think that she would even allow herself

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<v Speaker 2>and the company with people who weren't at the bare

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<v Speaker 2>minimum super fans. Well said what we coin as Black

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<v Speaker 2>Girl Magic. I wanted to say something before we moved on,

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<v Speaker 2>because there's a term there used over and over that's

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<v Speaker 2>kind of ambiguous, progressively responsible, and it's in quotations every

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<v Speaker 2>time that it's used. I wanted to give a more

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<v Speaker 2>plain definition of this. It actually has one. Progressively responsible

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<v Speaker 2>refers to task, job duties, or roles that demonstrate growth

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<v Speaker 2>and or advancement and have a difficult level of responsibility

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<v Speaker 2>five plus years experience, bachelor's degree, et cetera. A very

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<v Speaker 2>very qualified progressive woman. But the progressively responsible I think

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<v Speaker 2>that term is used a vigorously on purpose, Yeah, to

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<v Speaker 2>kind of leave to question what that might mean. Very

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<v Speaker 2>very qualified and intelligent black women, right right.

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<v Speaker 1>So imagine if Justice Brown Jackson was appointed to the

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<v Speaker 1>Supreme Court, and all the rest of the justices quipped right.

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<v Speaker 1>So here we have a black woman being appointed to

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<v Speaker 1>again town manager. The entire police department turns in their resignation.

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<v Speaker 1>So again we're getting a sense of the disrespect the reality.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, these are little stories that are kind of

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<v Speaker 1>in little pockets of the country that deserve to be mentioned.

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<v Speaker 1>But I think that when we take them all in

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<v Speaker 1>a hole, you get a sense of exactly where we

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<v Speaker 1>are as the country. You know, you may listen to

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<v Speaker 1>us in a big city, you know, just depending on you,

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<v Speaker 1>we all are in some smaller cities around the country

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<v Speaker 1>as well, but you know, the majority of our listenership

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<v Speaker 1>is in big cities around the country, and so you

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<v Speaker 1>might not be aware that racism is not just you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the N word and police violence. Racism is really marginalizing

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<v Speaker 1>people and denying people opportunities. How can you provide security

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<v Speaker 1>for a town if your entire police department quits, and

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<v Speaker 1>then what is the town left to do except change

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<v Speaker 1>the police uh, change the town manager if they want

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<v Speaker 1>their police supports. No, the town could very easily hire

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<v Speaker 1>better offices. That's what I was thinking right the way

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<v Speaker 1>where they're going to come from.

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<v Speaker 2>The escapegoders the progressively responsible candidate town manager. But they

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<v Speaker 2>can come from the same town where the progressively responsible

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<v Speaker 2>town manager came from. Right, These people have been in place, underqualified,

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<v Speaker 2>under educated, very very minor in their levels of complexity

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<v Speaker 2>and emotional intelligence. Hire better people. Hire an entire actually

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<v Speaker 2>is a police Hey, so listen, we're hiring.

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<v Speaker 1>This job pays fifty five thousand dollars a year to start,

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<v Speaker 1>and they limited over time. And you can rethink policing

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<v Speaker 1>in the in the in the interim, which we're going

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<v Speaker 1>to talk about because you know, but you know, just

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<v Speaker 1>for her to have to go through that and and

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<v Speaker 1>for us to hear about it and be able to

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<v Speaker 1>share it with you just kind of again gives a

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<v Speaker 1>glimpse into just how far people will go to show

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<v Speaker 1>their hatred and disdain for black people. Certainly, obviously the

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<v Speaker 1>police don't want to work for a black woman. And

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<v Speaker 1>I think that's that's something that we learned. Excuse me,

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<v Speaker 1>in Arizona, we had a cheap of police was a

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<v Speaker 1>black woman, and the people that worked for her gave

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<v Speaker 1>her a very hard time, and the community gave her

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<v Speaker 1>a very hard time. Too, And I'm not going to

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<v Speaker 1>say whether or not it was deserved because I was

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<v Speaker 1>following national stories. I just heard about it. But I

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<v Speaker 1>recognized because her husband did come up on the show,

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<v Speaker 1>and Judge Williams came up on the show, and I

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<v Speaker 1>recognize that being a black woman in that position had

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<v Speaker 1>to be tough, no matter which way you cut it.

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<v Speaker 1>So story number two, Story number three. This one comes

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<v Speaker 1>by a CBS or Sorry, NBC News. Cincinnati police officer

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<v Speaker 1>and former reality TV figure caught on camera using racist slur. Rosemalentino,

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<v Speaker 1>a fourteen year veteran appeared on TC's Police Women of Cincinnati,

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<v Speaker 1>has been taking off the streets after she was recorded

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<v Speaker 1>on her own body camera using a racist slur, caught

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<v Speaker 1>saying fing inward ifing hate them as she punched the

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<v Speaker 1>steering wheel of her squad car on April fifth. According

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<v Speaker 1>to an internal fares report, Malentino said she was agitated

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<v Speaker 1>by a crowd of cars lining up to pick up

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<v Speaker 1>students at Western Hills University High School, which didn't move

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<v Speaker 1>when she activated the lights in siren. Now a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit more about the story. She says a student flipped

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<v Speaker 1>her off and then she started punching the steering will

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<v Speaker 1>and saying fing in words I f and hate them.

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<v Speaker 1>It's on camera and I saw that one. So goohead.

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<v Speaker 2>If I was ding driving down the street in my

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<v Speaker 2>squad car and a pickup truck intentionally t boned my

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<v Speaker 2>squad car right, airbags pop out and I survive, nothing

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<v Speaker 2>in my entire consciousness would say fing any group of people,

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<v Speaker 2>I hate them.

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<v Speaker 1>That all of them, you know, that would term for

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<v Speaker 1>all of them. There is no this word individual disrespected me.

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<v Speaker 1>But there is no version that being the natural reaction

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<v Speaker 1>to any group of people, let alone the very pejorative,

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<v Speaker 1>very negative, very insulting, very ignorant term used to in

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<v Speaker 1>the most racist manner ever describe said group of people.

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<v Speaker 1>Hang on, So now let's go to Mississippi, our favorite

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<v Speaker 1>place us today. Mississippi police chief fired after leaked audio

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<v Speaker 1>captured racist rant him bragging about killing thirteen people. Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>Former Lexington Police Department chief Sam Dobbins was fired after

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<v Speaker 1>audio recordings demonstrated him bragging about shooting and killing people

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<v Speaker 1>in the line of duty, including a black man who

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<v Speaker 1>he claimed to have shot more than one hundred times,

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<v Speaker 1>in a racist and homophobic rent about eighty percent of

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<v Speaker 1>the city nearly thirteen hundred people are black, since his

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<v Speaker 1>data shows so this is not just an isolated police incident,

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<v Speaker 1>and this is just this week. Normally we wouldn't even

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<v Speaker 1>have the bandwidth to cover this. I still have more

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<v Speaker 1>articles to get to. How about this one. This one

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<v Speaker 1>comes from Yahoo News. A black man beaten, left bloodied

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<v Speaker 1>after alleged stop sign violation in Tennessee. We saw this

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<v Speaker 1>video that was hard to watch. Tennessee Bureau of Investigation

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<v Speaker 1>has opened a probe into the brutal arrest of a

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<v Speaker 1>black man who was chased into a home where a

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<v Speaker 1>loved one recorded as he was beaten and shocked with

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<v Speaker 1>a taser after an alleged traffic violation. You know, some

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<v Speaker 1>of this stuff we share on our social media at

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<v Speaker 1>CIVI excipher. If you want to check it out, some

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<v Speaker 1>of the stuff, you're going to have to do a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit of homework because we don't we don't want

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<v Speaker 1>to devolve into sort of like the media enterprise that

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<v Speaker 1>glorifies or benefits from the sensationalism of harm against black

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<v Speaker 1>and brown bodies. So some things will share, some things

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<v Speaker 1>will point you in the direction where if you want

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<v Speaker 1>to actually see it. You can, but we're a radio show.

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<v Speaker 1>We talked through things. But that was an awful, awful,

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<v Speaker 1>awful video to watch. And that you see these people

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<v Speaker 1>chase this man down like an animal and hurt him

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<v Speaker 1>and hurt him and hurt him, and he's screaming and

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<v Speaker 1>they heard him and heard him for a traffic violation,

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<v Speaker 1>and he ran because he was scared. That's it.

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<v Speaker 2>Their only intent was to hurt him, that's it. So

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<v Speaker 2>of course he ran, and once they caught him, their

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<v Speaker 2>intentions were not to subdue, not to arrest, not to handcuffed,

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<v Speaker 2>not to anything. Let's harm this man as much as

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<v Speaker 2>we can, as fast as we can, as aggressively as

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<v Speaker 2>we can, as forceful as we can. The reason why

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<v Speaker 2>does not matter. Your job is to not physically punish

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<v Speaker 2>people that break the law. Yeah, the guns that you

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<v Speaker 2>have are supposed to be to protect people, not to

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<v Speaker 2>aggressively forcefully murder, injure and harm people. That's not what

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<v Speaker 2>you signed up for. I never really understand even in

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<v Speaker 2>traffic stops. I got a speeding ticket recently. The officer

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<v Speaker 2>was so angry at me, and I was so confused

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<v Speaker 2>by it. Right because the speed limit the post it

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<v Speaker 2>number is very arbitrary. I don't know if you people

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<v Speaker 2>drive in real life, and I hate the way you

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<v Speaker 2>people sounds.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if anyone drives in real life at

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<v Speaker 1>the posted speed limit right right, So I'm just going

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<v Speaker 1>faster than you thought I should be going, and that's fine.

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<v Speaker 1>Pulled me over and incite me, that's fine too, But

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<v Speaker 1>why are you angry at me? I did not do

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<v Speaker 1>something to you, sir. Nobody's hard. Everybody's still living.

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<v Speaker 2>And it was funny because the police officer that pulled

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<v Speaker 2>me over was also not just speeding but driving. He

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<v Speaker 2>wasn't posted with a radar, so it even says on

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<v Speaker 2>the ticket the way that he detected that I was

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<v Speaker 2>speeding was by pace.

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<v Speaker 1>This is just his opinion, folks, what a system man. Well, listen,

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<v Speaker 1>despite going through all these headlines, we still have more

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<v Speaker 1>that we can't get to. And that's just the reality

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<v Speaker 1>of it. So we'll leave it right there.