1 00:00:00,840 --> 00:00:03,520 Speaker 1: Your tunes about Drive on your twenty four to seven 2 00:00:03,560 --> 00:00:13,160 Speaker 1: home of the Black and Goal Steelers Nation Radio. 3 00:00:15,560 --> 00:00:17,960 Speaker 2: Rolling along here on the drive on a Wednesday, into 4 00:00:17,960 --> 00:00:20,080 Speaker 2: the phone lines we go to catch up with our 5 00:00:20,079 --> 00:00:23,200 Speaker 2: buddy Chris Hallock, of course, covers the Steelers for dk 6 00:00:23,239 --> 00:00:25,880 Speaker 2: Pittsburgh Sports. A lot of ground to cover since the 7 00:00:25,960 --> 00:00:27,920 Speaker 2: last time we talked to Chris, so let's get into it. 8 00:00:27,960 --> 00:00:30,520 Speaker 2: Thanks for taking the time as always, partner, and let's 9 00:00:30,560 --> 00:00:32,800 Speaker 2: go before we get into some specifics and some staff 10 00:00:32,840 --> 00:00:35,000 Speaker 2: stuff and some press conference and all that, let's just 11 00:00:35,200 --> 00:00:37,239 Speaker 2: go thirty thousand foot view with you. This is the 12 00:00:37,240 --> 00:00:41,440 Speaker 2: first time we've talked to you since the Steelers have 13 00:00:41,600 --> 00:00:44,640 Speaker 2: hired Mike McCarthy. It's probably too late in this process 14 00:00:44,680 --> 00:00:47,560 Speaker 2: to say initial reaction, right, I mean that would probably 15 00:00:47,640 --> 00:00:50,760 Speaker 2: something yeah, that would have happened Sunday and Monday. But 16 00:00:50,960 --> 00:00:54,760 Speaker 2: just you're again, thirty thousand foot view thoughts Mike McCarthy 17 00:00:54,840 --> 00:00:57,760 Speaker 2: being the seventeenth head coach in the history of the 18 00:00:57,760 --> 00:00:58,960 Speaker 2: Pittsburgh Steelers. 19 00:01:00,080 --> 00:01:04,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, thanks for having me, guys. Yeah. Uh, My initial 20 00:01:04,280 --> 00:01:11,240 Speaker 3: reaction was I wanted to see possibly a longer process 21 00:01:11,240 --> 00:01:12,840 Speaker 3: than this, or at least to bring in a couple 22 00:01:12,880 --> 00:01:17,120 Speaker 3: more candidates just to make sure that they did their 23 00:01:17,200 --> 00:01:20,120 Speaker 3: due diligence. But you know, as you know, Art Roney 24 00:01:20,200 --> 00:01:23,600 Speaker 3: said in the press conference, you know, when they feel 25 00:01:23,600 --> 00:01:25,640 Speaker 3: like they have their guy, they're gonna have their guy. 26 00:01:25,680 --> 00:01:27,600 Speaker 3: It doesn't matter if it's you know, obviously you have 27 00:01:27,680 --> 00:01:30,880 Speaker 3: certain requirements to meet, you know, for NFL, you know, 28 00:01:32,880 --> 00:01:34,720 Speaker 3: but you know, if you feel like you have your guy, 29 00:01:34,760 --> 00:01:37,440 Speaker 3: then you have your guy. You know, why why you know, 30 00:01:37,560 --> 00:01:41,840 Speaker 3: delay the process anymore. And so I understand that perspective. 31 00:01:43,520 --> 00:01:48,240 Speaker 3: But the one thing that I think fans will appreciate 32 00:01:48,320 --> 00:01:50,960 Speaker 3: outside of the fact that he's you know, from Greenfield 33 00:01:50,960 --> 00:01:54,559 Speaker 3: and you could obviously see the emotion that he had, 34 00:01:55,480 --> 00:01:58,600 Speaker 3: you know, becoming the head coach of the franchise of 35 00:01:58,640 --> 00:02:02,960 Speaker 3: the team that he watched growing up, is the fact 36 00:02:02,960 --> 00:02:05,520 Speaker 3: that he's an offensive coach. He's an offensive mind. He's 37 00:02:05,520 --> 00:02:09,799 Speaker 3: going to call the plays. This is a shift for 38 00:02:09,840 --> 00:02:13,639 Speaker 3: the franchise. I think that's interesting. For sure. I think 39 00:02:13,760 --> 00:02:17,960 Speaker 3: fans should probably at least, you know, at least welcome 40 00:02:18,080 --> 00:02:21,520 Speaker 3: that type of change. While I understand, like sometimes you 41 00:02:21,560 --> 00:02:23,760 Speaker 3: always want the young, egg ahead type, but yeah, at 42 00:02:23,800 --> 00:02:25,760 Speaker 3: the same time, this is a like I said, it's 43 00:02:25,760 --> 00:02:29,120 Speaker 3: an offensive guy, it's an offensive coach. It's going to 44 00:02:29,200 --> 00:02:33,000 Speaker 3: shift the focus, and that means things are going to 45 00:02:33,040 --> 00:02:36,400 Speaker 3: be different in twenty twenty six. How different that obviously 46 00:02:36,440 --> 00:02:39,359 Speaker 3: has got to be seen. But thirty thousand foot view, 47 00:02:39,840 --> 00:02:44,919 Speaker 3: it's it's different. It's a little familiar, but it's overall 48 00:02:45,080 --> 00:02:48,560 Speaker 3: it's different, and I think there's plenty of Injurgue going forward. 49 00:02:48,960 --> 00:02:52,639 Speaker 4: It's definitely different. And you mentioned he is an offensive 50 00:02:52,639 --> 00:02:54,840 Speaker 4: minded guy, and the more homework I've done on his 51 00:02:55,080 --> 00:02:58,200 Speaker 4: stint with the Cowboys, he kind of lets his defensive 52 00:02:58,200 --> 00:03:01,040 Speaker 4: staff do their thing. I don't know if you've any 53 00:03:01,480 --> 00:03:04,320 Speaker 4: names in mind for defensive coordinator. If you don't die, 54 00:03:04,360 --> 00:03:08,079 Speaker 4: it's fine, But is there a scheme? Is there a style? 55 00:03:08,440 --> 00:03:11,720 Speaker 4: Is there something you're looking for in the defensive. 56 00:03:11,320 --> 00:03:18,200 Speaker 3: Higher Well, McCarthy did say the leaves are very very 57 00:03:18,760 --> 00:03:20,520 Speaker 3: pretty much said that they wanted to stick with a 58 00:03:20,520 --> 00:03:23,520 Speaker 3: three four front, So I don't know how. 59 00:03:23,400 --> 00:03:25,680 Speaker 4: Much I was shocked by. That's like. 60 00:03:27,320 --> 00:03:31,000 Speaker 3: That, you know, yeah, yeah, And then you know when 61 00:03:31,000 --> 00:03:33,119 Speaker 3: he talked about you the way the Steelers have done 62 00:03:33,160 --> 00:03:36,880 Speaker 3: things since nineteen ninety two, I'm like, okay, well, how 63 00:03:37,440 --> 00:03:39,880 Speaker 3: how different or how like change? 64 00:03:39,880 --> 00:03:40,160 Speaker 2: A little. 65 00:03:41,200 --> 00:03:44,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, right, Yeah, things have changed a bit. Uh. You know, 66 00:03:44,760 --> 00:03:47,320 Speaker 3: the zone blitz isn't what it used to be in 67 00:03:47,400 --> 00:03:50,640 Speaker 3: terms of throwing teams off. Yeah, you can still do 68 00:03:50,680 --> 00:03:53,280 Speaker 3: fire zone and all that stuff. A lot of defenses 69 00:03:53,280 --> 00:03:55,440 Speaker 3: have not All defenses still run that, but they don't 70 00:03:55,480 --> 00:04:00,840 Speaker 3: live in it. Yeah. I a couple of names that 71 00:04:00,920 --> 00:04:04,040 Speaker 3: I thought of. Patrick Graham was one. He's the Raiders 72 00:04:04,040 --> 00:04:08,080 Speaker 3: defensive coordinator. He was under McCarthy with the Backers in 73 00:04:08,080 --> 00:04:12,080 Speaker 3: twenty eighteen. Uh. He's done some really interesting things. He's 74 00:04:12,120 --> 00:04:15,440 Speaker 3: also performed way better if you look at some of 75 00:04:15,480 --> 00:04:20,320 Speaker 3: the underlying numbers, then the surface numbers appear to be 76 00:04:20,640 --> 00:04:23,000 Speaker 3: especially when you consider the fact that like the Raiders 77 00:04:23,320 --> 00:04:26,240 Speaker 3: don't the outside of Max Crosby, don't invest any money 78 00:04:26,279 --> 00:04:27,040 Speaker 3: on that side of. 79 00:04:26,960 --> 00:04:30,320 Speaker 4: The ballast talent and defense in the league last year. 80 00:04:31,200 --> 00:04:36,440 Speaker 3: Right, and he's he's making you know, chicken salad out 81 00:04:36,480 --> 00:04:40,680 Speaker 3: of chicken. Yeah stuff. I can't stay on here, but yeah, 82 00:04:40,800 --> 00:04:42,880 Speaker 3: and then but then I think of Al Harris, who 83 00:04:42,880 --> 00:04:47,400 Speaker 3: played corner for him in Green Bay. Uh, he coached 84 00:04:47,480 --> 00:04:50,880 Speaker 3: under him. He was an assistant head coach under McCarthy 85 00:04:50,920 --> 00:04:51,720 Speaker 3: in Dallas. 86 00:04:52,080 --> 00:04:52,200 Speaker 1: Uh. 87 00:04:52,320 --> 00:04:55,080 Speaker 3: He then moved on when McCarthy moved on. He went 88 00:04:55,120 --> 00:04:58,000 Speaker 3: to coach under Ben Johnson as defensive backs coach and 89 00:04:58,040 --> 00:05:02,240 Speaker 3: pasking coordinator. So he's got some interesting ties. And I 90 00:05:02,279 --> 00:05:04,359 Speaker 3: think if you want not that Al Harris is young. 91 00:05:04,480 --> 00:05:07,800 Speaker 3: I think he's fifty one, but if you wanted to 92 00:05:07,800 --> 00:05:10,280 Speaker 3: go for a kind of I'd say more of an 93 00:05:10,360 --> 00:05:13,240 Speaker 3: up and coming type higher like I said, age is 94 00:05:13,240 --> 00:05:15,120 Speaker 3: and he's in his thirties or anything. But I think 95 00:05:15,120 --> 00:05:20,120 Speaker 3: that's an interesting guy. And then I can't help the fact. 96 00:05:20,279 --> 00:05:23,560 Speaker 3: But but just think, like what's going on in Cleveland. 97 00:05:23,600 --> 00:05:27,800 Speaker 3: If Jim Schwartz really wants out, I don't know how 98 00:05:27,920 --> 00:05:30,960 Speaker 3: you don't at least talk to the guy. He's a 99 00:05:31,120 --> 00:05:35,239 Speaker 3: really accomplished defensive mind in the game. Yes he's gonna 100 00:05:35,400 --> 00:05:38,200 Speaker 3: he does some things differently than what McCarty said, but 101 00:05:38,200 --> 00:05:39,839 Speaker 3: it might be one of those things where you weren't 102 00:05:40,000 --> 00:05:43,400 Speaker 3: Like when he was at the press conference yesterday, he 103 00:05:43,480 --> 00:05:45,599 Speaker 3: might have been thinking at that time, there's no chance 104 00:05:45,640 --> 00:05:50,080 Speaker 3: I even have a chance sports. And then if things change, 105 00:05:50,120 --> 00:05:52,680 Speaker 3: you gotta be like, well, I've gotta I gotta adapt here. 106 00:05:52,760 --> 00:05:55,720 Speaker 3: I don't know how that's that's me personally. I don't 107 00:05:55,720 --> 00:05:58,400 Speaker 3: know how you don't at least kick up the phone 108 00:05:58,440 --> 00:06:00,760 Speaker 3: and and speak with them, because. 109 00:06:00,680 --> 00:06:03,760 Speaker 4: Even Dori McCarthy's press conference, like you mentioned, Schwartz was 110 00:06:03,800 --> 00:06:05,599 Speaker 4: still very much in the hunt for the head job 111 00:06:05,920 --> 00:06:06,600 Speaker 4: with the Browns. 112 00:06:06,680 --> 00:06:09,719 Speaker 3: Correct, Yeah, yeah, yeah, correct. And so now the Browns 113 00:06:09,720 --> 00:06:11,840 Speaker 3: are hiring Todd Monken to be there to be their 114 00:06:11,839 --> 00:06:15,120 Speaker 3: new head coach, and short apparently Schwartz isn't according to 115 00:06:15,160 --> 00:06:18,680 Speaker 3: her ports isn't isn't liking that, like liking being overlooked, 116 00:06:19,240 --> 00:06:22,000 Speaker 3: and apparently wants out. And so if that's the case, 117 00:06:22,360 --> 00:06:23,760 Speaker 3: like I said, I don't know how you don't pick 118 00:06:23,800 --> 00:06:25,000 Speaker 3: up the phone and at least see. 119 00:06:24,800 --> 00:06:27,640 Speaker 4: If there's yeah. 120 00:06:27,880 --> 00:06:31,239 Speaker 3: So uh, but those are three names that are pretty 121 00:06:31,279 --> 00:06:33,200 Speaker 3: interesting to me on the defensive side. 122 00:06:33,720 --> 00:06:37,000 Speaker 2: Well, one name that's certainly interesting on the offensive side, 123 00:06:37,120 --> 00:06:40,320 Speaker 2: not for the coaching staff, but for the future signal 124 00:06:40,320 --> 00:06:43,040 Speaker 2: caller position of the Pittsburgh Steelers organization, of course, is 125 00:06:43,080 --> 00:06:46,880 Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers. And it sounded like there was certainly interest 126 00:06:46,920 --> 00:06:50,200 Speaker 2: there from Mike McCarthy on bringing his former quarterback back 127 00:06:50,240 --> 00:06:54,840 Speaker 2: for a second year in Pittsburgh. Uh. I guess, Chris, 128 00:06:54,839 --> 00:06:56,400 Speaker 2: I don't know, like if I posed it to you 129 00:06:56,480 --> 00:06:59,320 Speaker 2: this way, and we are still way I mean it is. 130 00:06:59,360 --> 00:07:01,720 Speaker 2: It's the end of January here. We're still a few 131 00:07:01,760 --> 00:07:04,039 Speaker 2: weeks away from free agency, still a couple months away 132 00:07:04,040 --> 00:07:06,760 Speaker 2: from the draft, all that stuff. But if I had 133 00:07:06,800 --> 00:07:09,240 Speaker 2: to say to you, you know, September, when the Steelers 134 00:07:09,240 --> 00:07:15,120 Speaker 2: season begins, Aaron Rodgers or door number two, who's starting 135 00:07:15,280 --> 00:07:17,280 Speaker 2: under center for the Pittsburgh Steelers. 136 00:07:17,840 --> 00:07:20,920 Speaker 3: If I were a betting man, like right now here 137 00:07:20,920 --> 00:07:23,240 Speaker 3: we are in January twenty eighth, I would say Aaron 138 00:07:23,320 --> 00:07:28,520 Speaker 3: Rodgers is the starting quarterback. That being said, we don't 139 00:07:28,560 --> 00:07:32,080 Speaker 3: know where Aaron's head is. We don't know if he's 140 00:07:32,120 --> 00:07:36,119 Speaker 3: just like, you know what, I'm done. I've accomplished everything 141 00:07:36,120 --> 00:07:40,840 Speaker 3: I'm going to accomplish. The chances of winning a Super 142 00:07:40,840 --> 00:07:44,840 Speaker 3: Bowl is slammer whatever. I don't know. I'm not going 143 00:07:44,920 --> 00:07:48,200 Speaker 3: to speak for Aaron, but we don't know what he's thinking. 144 00:07:49,680 --> 00:07:53,680 Speaker 3: I don't think you're completely forfeiting on the quarterback position. 145 00:07:53,800 --> 00:07:56,240 Speaker 3: If Aaron Rodgers is your quarterback in twenty twenty six. 146 00:07:57,520 --> 00:08:00,600 Speaker 3: Omar con I asked him yesterday in the pre Sovereign's 147 00:08:00,640 --> 00:08:05,280 Speaker 3: you know, you know if McCarthy's experience of working with 148 00:08:05,360 --> 00:08:09,600 Speaker 3: quarterbacks played a role in this hire, and he said 149 00:08:09,600 --> 00:08:11,120 Speaker 3: that that was a part of the conversation they had 150 00:08:11,120 --> 00:08:16,000 Speaker 3: with every candidate, and I believe that that remains the 151 00:08:16,600 --> 00:08:20,119 Speaker 3: one of the primary goals for Omar, and now Mike 152 00:08:20,320 --> 00:08:24,600 Speaker 3: McCarthy is finding that long term, that long term answer 153 00:08:24,600 --> 00:08:29,280 Speaker 3: at quarterback Rogers is not that now that you can 154 00:08:29,320 --> 00:08:31,720 Speaker 3: still get that guy. It could be Will Howard, who 155 00:08:32,360 --> 00:08:36,640 Speaker 3: was brought up unsolicitously by both McCarthy and Omar in 156 00:08:37,000 --> 00:08:39,720 Speaker 3: the press conference yesterday. So it could be Will Howard, 157 00:08:39,720 --> 00:08:42,400 Speaker 3: and it could be another year of him learning. But 158 00:08:42,480 --> 00:08:45,800 Speaker 3: maybe this year instead of being the very distant number three, 159 00:08:45,840 --> 00:08:50,640 Speaker 3: maybe he's elevated too. He's the backup and if Rogers 160 00:08:50,679 --> 00:08:53,200 Speaker 3: can't go, then Will Howard's the guy that goes in. 161 00:08:53,280 --> 00:08:56,280 Speaker 3: Maybe it's something along those lines, or maybe just maybe 162 00:08:56,960 --> 00:09:00,559 Speaker 3: they find something else throughout this draft process. They really 163 00:09:00,600 --> 00:09:04,840 Speaker 3: they might really like Garrett Nusmeyer and Nussmeyer family had 164 00:09:04,880 --> 00:09:08,800 Speaker 3: some ties to McCarthy. They might really like the tantalizing 165 00:09:08,880 --> 00:09:12,440 Speaker 3: tools of Drew Aller, seeing that six foot five frame 166 00:09:12,520 --> 00:09:15,360 Speaker 3: and cannon for an arm and McCarthy might see that 167 00:09:15,520 --> 00:09:17,440 Speaker 3: and meet with them and be like, you know what, 168 00:09:17,559 --> 00:09:20,280 Speaker 3: I feel like I could develop that or whatever. I'm 169 00:09:20,320 --> 00:09:24,839 Speaker 3: just throwing like two names out there. There will be 170 00:09:24,880 --> 00:09:29,280 Speaker 3: a long term option and might not be decided this offseason, 171 00:09:29,600 --> 00:09:31,880 Speaker 3: but when it comes to the future of the position, 172 00:09:31,920 --> 00:09:34,400 Speaker 3: I believe that that is very very much on their mind, 173 00:09:34,440 --> 00:09:36,760 Speaker 3: whether or not Aaron Rodgers is the quarterback in twenty six. 174 00:09:37,480 --> 00:09:39,480 Speaker 4: I was gonna ask something very similar to what West did, 175 00:09:39,480 --> 00:09:40,840 Speaker 4: so I kind of want to expand on what you're 176 00:09:40,840 --> 00:09:45,520 Speaker 4: just saying and likes Meyer and Alan aler aside. I mean, 177 00:09:46,200 --> 00:09:51,199 Speaker 4: if hypothetically the Steelers go into camp with Rogers Rudolph 178 00:09:51,640 --> 00:09:57,480 Speaker 4: Howard and they spend a lot of resources on wide 179 00:09:57,480 --> 00:10:02,640 Speaker 4: receiver another defense of tackle of note, kick some draft 180 00:10:02,640 --> 00:10:07,200 Speaker 4: picks to next year sign a free agent receiver. Would 181 00:10:07,280 --> 00:10:11,680 Speaker 4: you approve and understand that, especially if you're sitting there 182 00:10:11,679 --> 00:10:14,559 Speaker 4: with a lot of resources for the twenty twenty seven draft. 183 00:10:16,320 --> 00:10:18,679 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, listen, you don't have to get your 184 00:10:18,720 --> 00:10:22,959 Speaker 3: quarterback like a disc offseason, like a dis draft. You 185 00:10:23,000 --> 00:10:25,320 Speaker 3: don't have to You don't have to get because it's 186 00:10:25,360 --> 00:10:28,120 Speaker 3: not a great quarterback class. It's for Nanda Mendoza and 187 00:10:28,160 --> 00:10:29,240 Speaker 3: then everybody else. 188 00:10:29,720 --> 00:10:32,280 Speaker 4: I want the right quarterback. I don't necessarily want right 189 00:10:32,400 --> 00:10:34,360 Speaker 4: the newest one, you know the most and. 190 00:10:35,559 --> 00:10:39,160 Speaker 3: As far as I know from my conversations with people 191 00:10:39,160 --> 00:10:41,960 Speaker 3: on the inside, the way it's been put to me is, 192 00:10:42,600 --> 00:10:45,480 Speaker 3: we're not going to Kenny ticket this thing again. Good Like, 193 00:10:45,720 --> 00:10:47,800 Speaker 3: it's not going to be a first like, hey, we're 194 00:10:47,800 --> 00:10:50,160 Speaker 3: in the first round, We're just going to take the 195 00:10:50,200 --> 00:10:53,599 Speaker 3: best quarterback available. Like it's it's the next time the 196 00:10:53,640 --> 00:10:56,960 Speaker 3: Steelers take a quarterback in the first round, it's going 197 00:10:57,040 --> 00:10:59,360 Speaker 3: to be a guy that they believe is their next 198 00:10:59,400 --> 00:11:03,280 Speaker 3: franchise quarterback. Now again, you can still like drafted developed 199 00:11:03,880 --> 00:11:08,480 Speaker 3: if you get to the third round. And I'm not 200 00:11:08,480 --> 00:11:10,680 Speaker 3: even gonna name a name. I'm saying, a quarterback is 201 00:11:10,679 --> 00:11:13,480 Speaker 3: there that you're really interested in, that you really feel 202 00:11:13,520 --> 00:11:16,200 Speaker 3: I can become part of this quarterback room and can 203 00:11:16,240 --> 00:11:19,680 Speaker 3: be developed. You can begin the development plan in twenty 204 00:11:19,720 --> 00:11:23,720 Speaker 3: twenty six and by all means, take your swing. See 205 00:11:23,760 --> 00:11:26,160 Speaker 3: what you can get out of that guy. I have 206 00:11:26,200 --> 00:11:29,280 Speaker 3: no problem trying to find answers in more ways than 207 00:11:30,000 --> 00:11:31,920 Speaker 3: just hey, we have to draft the guy in the 208 00:11:31,920 --> 00:11:34,880 Speaker 3: first round. Not every Hall of Fame quarterback was drafted 209 00:11:35,280 --> 00:11:37,080 Speaker 3: in the top ten of the draft or top twenty 210 00:11:37,120 --> 00:11:41,120 Speaker 3: of the draft, So you can find your answers. But yeah, 211 00:11:41,480 --> 00:11:44,439 Speaker 3: like what you're talking about if it doesn't work out 212 00:11:44,480 --> 00:11:46,680 Speaker 3: there is just like the way the draft falls or 213 00:11:46,800 --> 00:11:49,160 Speaker 3: what you learned from the quarterback class. You don't have 214 00:11:49,240 --> 00:11:51,520 Speaker 3: to take a quarterback this year. If it were a 215 00:11:51,600 --> 00:11:53,800 Speaker 3: quarterback rich class and buy all means, do what you 216 00:11:53,840 --> 00:11:55,040 Speaker 3: need to do to get up there and to get 217 00:11:55,040 --> 00:11:57,280 Speaker 3: one of those guys. But if not that kind of 218 00:11:57,320 --> 00:11:58,880 Speaker 3: a class, so you don't have to force it either. 219 00:11:59,360 --> 00:12:02,160 Speaker 4: I wouldn't be psyched to like trade a draft pick 220 00:12:02,200 --> 00:12:04,920 Speaker 4: for Mac Jones or Kyler Murray or one of those 221 00:12:04,960 --> 00:12:05,880 Speaker 4: type of moves. 222 00:12:06,320 --> 00:12:10,200 Speaker 3: It depends on the draft pick. I would not think 223 00:12:10,240 --> 00:12:14,040 Speaker 3: that they're going to trade a Day two pick for 224 00:12:14,320 --> 00:12:18,480 Speaker 3: Mac Jones or Kyler Murray. I'd be really surprised. At 225 00:12:18,559 --> 00:12:22,520 Speaker 3: least with Mac Jones. I mean he's really really inexpensive. 226 00:12:23,320 --> 00:12:25,000 Speaker 3: That's not the case with Kyler Murray. 227 00:12:25,120 --> 00:12:28,880 Speaker 4: So you're talking about contract wise, yeah. 228 00:12:28,000 --> 00:12:30,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, So and then you're talking about giving a 229 00:12:30,960 --> 00:12:33,680 Speaker 3: Day two pick. I don't think that would be the move. 230 00:12:33,920 --> 00:12:36,640 Speaker 3: But you know, you never know. When you're trying to 231 00:12:36,640 --> 00:12:38,960 Speaker 3: find a quarterback, you'll do some different things. 232 00:12:39,520 --> 00:12:41,760 Speaker 2: And yeah, we all know that's the case. Certainly, the 233 00:12:42,080 --> 00:12:44,880 Speaker 2: quarterback is the straw that starts to drink. If you 234 00:12:45,000 --> 00:12:47,600 Speaker 2: have one, you never talk about it, you know, in 235 00:12:47,720 --> 00:12:51,040 Speaker 2: terms of a need in the draft and free agency. 236 00:12:51,280 --> 00:12:53,560 Speaker 2: If you don't have one, it's pretty much all you 237 00:12:53,600 --> 00:12:56,240 Speaker 2: talk about at times. And we've seen both sides of 238 00:12:56,240 --> 00:12:58,560 Speaker 2: that equation in the Ben Roethlisberger and now the post 239 00:12:58,920 --> 00:13:02,280 Speaker 2: Big Ben era. But what's kind of next on the 240 00:13:02,320 --> 00:13:06,480 Speaker 2: docket for you after that, Chris? Is it wide receivers? 241 00:13:06,520 --> 00:13:08,559 Speaker 2: We know he Mike McCarthy and his offense is like 242 00:13:08,600 --> 00:13:10,480 Speaker 2: the living three wide. You only have three on the 243 00:13:10,600 --> 00:13:14,120 Speaker 2: roster right now. You're going to need real reinforcements. There 244 00:13:14,480 --> 00:13:16,319 Speaker 2: is that kind of the first area that you look 245 00:13:16,360 --> 00:13:19,360 Speaker 2: at to attack with your draft capital, with free agency. 246 00:13:19,880 --> 00:13:21,880 Speaker 2: Is it maybe something on the defense? Are you trying 247 00:13:21,960 --> 00:13:24,760 Speaker 2: to supplement that offensive line that feels like it's really 248 00:13:24,800 --> 00:13:26,840 Speaker 2: close to being one of the best units in the league. 249 00:13:27,000 --> 00:13:29,160 Speaker 2: We all know quarterbacks number one, But if you were, 250 00:13:29,200 --> 00:13:32,240 Speaker 2: if you were Mike McCarthy, what's what's the second position 251 00:13:32,400 --> 00:13:33,680 Speaker 2: room that you're trying to attack. 252 00:13:34,520 --> 00:13:36,920 Speaker 3: It's got to be wide receiver. I don't know how 253 00:13:36,920 --> 00:13:42,560 Speaker 3: it can't be. It's just it's a position that they like, 254 00:13:42,600 --> 00:13:46,400 Speaker 3: I understand, the league is evolving and it's you know, 255 00:13:46,520 --> 00:13:50,400 Speaker 3: it has its trends, and it's trending or toward larger 256 00:13:50,440 --> 00:13:54,480 Speaker 3: personnel and running the football again, but you still have 257 00:13:54,559 --> 00:13:58,400 Speaker 3: to have wide receivers. Yeah, it's it's you either have 258 00:13:58,520 --> 00:14:03,120 Speaker 3: to have one freak receiver like Seattle has the JSN, 259 00:14:04,320 --> 00:14:08,640 Speaker 3: or you have to have like two like alpha types 260 00:14:09,400 --> 00:14:15,920 Speaker 3: like if it was right, but but it could be 261 00:14:16,160 --> 00:14:18,560 Speaker 3: you know, a situation like Cincinnati, as with Jamar Chase 262 00:14:18,600 --> 00:14:21,320 Speaker 3: and c Higgins those that that's not the only team 263 00:14:21,360 --> 00:14:24,360 Speaker 3: that has that type of a situation. But yeah, you've 264 00:14:24,360 --> 00:14:27,680 Speaker 3: got to And even when when McCarthy, you look at 265 00:14:27,760 --> 00:14:30,400 Speaker 3: his his history in Green Bay, you know they had 266 00:14:30,440 --> 00:14:33,960 Speaker 3: great Jennings, Jory Nelson, you know, like you, they've always 267 00:14:34,040 --> 00:14:38,400 Speaker 3: had more than just one really good receiver. Yes, you 268 00:14:38,520 --> 00:14:41,840 Speaker 3: got to have more than one receiver and guys who 269 00:14:41,880 --> 00:14:45,040 Speaker 3: can strike some fear into the guy that's lining up 270 00:14:45,080 --> 00:14:47,320 Speaker 3: across from them. And even McCarthy talked about you know 271 00:14:47,360 --> 00:14:49,760 Speaker 3: you when you are in those situations, you want your 272 00:14:50,200 --> 00:14:52,280 Speaker 3: you want your number one receiver to be better than 273 00:14:52,320 --> 00:14:55,280 Speaker 3: their number one quarterback. You want your number two receiver 274 00:14:55,360 --> 00:14:57,960 Speaker 3: to be better than their second corner. You want your 275 00:14:58,000 --> 00:15:01,200 Speaker 3: third receiver to be better than their third corner. You know, 276 00:15:02,040 --> 00:15:06,120 Speaker 3: Steelers don't have that. They haven't had that, So yeah, 277 00:15:06,200 --> 00:15:10,000 Speaker 3: I for me, I'm not saying that they should ever 278 00:15:10,160 --> 00:15:14,200 Speaker 3: draft per position, but I don't know how wide receiver 279 00:15:14,280 --> 00:15:16,600 Speaker 3: is not atop the list in the first round, especially 280 00:15:16,600 --> 00:15:18,160 Speaker 3: when you look at some of the names, some of 281 00:15:18,200 --> 00:15:21,200 Speaker 3: the talent that's there, it's there for the taking, and 282 00:15:21,320 --> 00:15:23,080 Speaker 3: even if you have to trade up to go get it, 283 00:15:23,760 --> 00:15:25,920 Speaker 3: like it's there for the taking. There are some really 284 00:15:25,920 --> 00:15:27,360 Speaker 3: intriguing receivers in this draft. 285 00:15:27,520 --> 00:15:31,600 Speaker 4: Yah, there are, Chris, correct me if this sounds crazy 286 00:15:31,640 --> 00:15:33,440 Speaker 4: to you. If Wes would have asked me that exact 287 00:15:33,480 --> 00:15:36,520 Speaker 4: same question that he just asked you, I might have 288 00:15:36,640 --> 00:15:41,360 Speaker 4: answered it by saying, need number two and need number 289 00:15:41,400 --> 00:15:42,760 Speaker 4: three are wide receiver. 290 00:15:45,880 --> 00:15:47,720 Speaker 3: No, I see what you're saying. Like, I don't. I 291 00:15:47,760 --> 00:15:50,320 Speaker 3: don't think it's like, hey, we're gonna get our get 292 00:15:50,360 --> 00:15:52,400 Speaker 3: ourselves a receiver in the first round. That we're done. 293 00:15:52,640 --> 00:15:54,880 Speaker 4: I think they have to add three total. So I 294 00:15:54,920 --> 00:15:57,040 Speaker 4: want to legit investments. 295 00:15:58,920 --> 00:16:03,040 Speaker 3: But I would like to see I like, I mean, 296 00:16:03,280 --> 00:16:07,840 Speaker 3: I think ideally because you have living Yeah, yeah, if 297 00:16:07,880 --> 00:16:09,520 Speaker 3: you're gonna live in three wide, if you're gonna live 298 00:16:09,520 --> 00:16:11,840 Speaker 3: in live an eleven personnel. 299 00:16:11,840 --> 00:16:14,960 Speaker 4: I would in a high pick and then maybe eleve pick. 300 00:16:15,840 --> 00:16:19,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, you gotta go get one in free agency. Doesn't 301 00:16:19,320 --> 00:16:21,880 Speaker 3: have to be number one where you're paying thirty million 302 00:16:21,920 --> 00:16:23,920 Speaker 3: a year or anything like that. But it's got to 303 00:16:23,960 --> 00:16:26,680 Speaker 3: be an impactful guy. We're not talking. 304 00:16:26,760 --> 00:16:29,160 Speaker 4: Romeo Dobbs would be fine for that role to me. 305 00:16:29,720 --> 00:16:32,320 Speaker 3: Something like that. Yeah, you get a Romeo Dobbs. You 306 00:16:32,360 --> 00:16:35,520 Speaker 3: get a guy who has has proven he can win, 307 00:16:36,160 --> 00:16:38,440 Speaker 3: uh that he can win in coverage, whether it be Man, 308 00:16:38,480 --> 00:16:41,440 Speaker 3: Arizona or both. But then yeah, you still also go 309 00:16:41,520 --> 00:16:43,880 Speaker 3: into the draft. You get yourself a guy who who 310 00:16:43,920 --> 00:16:46,360 Speaker 3: can you get yourself an alpha, You get yourself a dog. 311 00:16:46,920 --> 00:16:49,120 Speaker 3: You know, That's what That's what I think you's gotta do. 312 00:16:49,360 --> 00:16:53,600 Speaker 3: I think if if they were to do that, absolutely 313 00:16:53,760 --> 00:16:57,000 Speaker 3: absolutely make it. Make it. Make it a true position 314 00:16:57,040 --> 00:16:58,920 Speaker 3: of strengths because it has not been one for a while. 315 00:16:59,000 --> 00:17:01,760 Speaker 4: Because again, you might have first round quarterback next year 316 00:17:01,920 --> 00:17:05,520 Speaker 4: falling into that nest, and boy, that'd be nice. 317 00:17:05,800 --> 00:17:08,320 Speaker 3: Yeah you want to. I think you've put it. You 318 00:17:08,440 --> 00:17:11,840 Speaker 3: put it that way a number of times. You want 319 00:17:11,920 --> 00:17:16,080 Speaker 3: whenever you get that franchise quarterback, whether he is currently 320 00:17:16,119 --> 00:17:18,520 Speaker 3: on the roster and in the midst of development. Whether 321 00:17:18,600 --> 00:17:21,119 Speaker 3: you draft that guy this year and he did a 322 00:17:21,160 --> 00:17:23,439 Speaker 3: has pad of a year or two to develop, or 323 00:17:23,440 --> 00:17:25,600 Speaker 3: whether you draft that guy in the first round of 324 00:17:25,680 --> 00:17:28,679 Speaker 3: twenty twenty seven. You want that quarterback to be in 325 00:17:28,680 --> 00:17:31,399 Speaker 3: the best position possible whenever he is handed the keys 326 00:17:31,440 --> 00:17:33,640 Speaker 3: to the car. You know, you want to make sure 327 00:17:33,640 --> 00:17:35,240 Speaker 3: that when he is handed the keys to the car, 328 00:17:35,400 --> 00:17:36,560 Speaker 3: the engine's primed. 329 00:17:37,280 --> 00:17:40,520 Speaker 4: Uh, you know that that that car Chris Aaron Rodgers 330 00:17:40,600 --> 00:17:42,760 Speaker 4: could potty train the rookie in the meantime, you know, 331 00:17:42,800 --> 00:17:44,719 Speaker 4: get him, get him ready and on the right page. 332 00:17:44,760 --> 00:17:49,480 Speaker 2: You know, yeah, absolutely, teach him out behind the quarter 333 00:17:49,600 --> 00:17:51,720 Speaker 2: teach him how to how to swim, or like take 334 00:17:51,720 --> 00:17:53,600 Speaker 2: the training wheels off. I mean, I don't know if 335 00:17:53,600 --> 00:17:55,200 Speaker 2: we have to go to the potty here, mister. 336 00:17:55,040 --> 00:17:57,359 Speaker 4: Williams and get the diapers off. Is fine for year two? 337 00:17:58,119 --> 00:18:02,160 Speaker 2: Training wheels off? Okay, training wheel off? Chris Aleck, great 338 00:18:02,160 --> 00:18:05,760 Speaker 2: stuff with him as always DK Pittsburgh Sports as TV 339 00:18:05,880 --> 00:18:06,240 Speaker 2: over there. 340 00:18:06,280 --> 00:18:09,120 Speaker 4: How happy he'll be when you're pastor to the diaper state. 341 00:18:09,160 --> 00:18:13,440 Speaker 2: I'm pretty close, yea. Our youngest is mostly potty trained, 342 00:18:13,520 --> 00:18:16,000 Speaker 2: still has the occasional accident, but she's doing really well, 343 00:18:16,080 --> 00:18:18,080 Speaker 2: so I'm about to kick diapers to the curve here 344 00:18:18,080 --> 00:18:21,800 Speaker 2: pretty soon. Hallick, Thanks buddy for your time, great stuff 345 00:18:21,840 --> 00:18:23,000 Speaker 2: as always, and we'll talk to you soon. 346 00:18:24,080 --> 00:18:26,399 Speaker 3: Thanks for having me, guys, I appreciate it. There he goes.