WEBVTT - NXT Fallout From Weekend PPV 0:00:00.360 --> 0:00:02.840 Hey, this is Brian Alvarez and this is today's edition 0:00:02.920 --> 0:00:12.840 of the Wrestling Observer Daily podcast on the eight Side Network, live. 0:00:12.760 --> 0:00:16.599 From San Francisco. I'm a sports byline broadcasting network. You 0:00:16.640 --> 0:00:20.080 are listening to Wrestling Observer Live with your hosts Brian 0:00:20.160 --> 0:00:25.000 Alvarez and Mike Semper vv Right you ready, You're ready, 0:00:25.600 --> 0:00:26.320 Let's get it off. 0:00:29.040 --> 0:00:31.520 How's it going to everybody? Brian Alvarez here on or 0:00:31.560 --> 0:00:34.839 Wrestling Observer Live. We are here every day Monday through Friday, 0:00:34.880 --> 0:00:38.680 New Pacific three Eastern Sunday three Pacific sixth Eastern Saturday 0:00:38.680 --> 0:00:44.199 Mornings with Jim Valley, Tenday Pacific one Eastern Sunday's with 0:00:44.240 --> 0:00:48.240 andrews Arian. It is Wednesday here on the show, is 0:00:48.240 --> 0:00:49.279 it not? Is it Wednesday? 0:00:51.120 --> 0:00:51.320 Yes? 0:00:52.520 --> 0:00:58.280 The June twelfth aw Dynamite is tonight. We'll talk about 0:00:58.280 --> 0:01:03.000 that show. We got matches announced, seven segments announced for 0:01:03.040 --> 0:01:04.880 the show. They just added an interview with Swartz Trickling. 0:01:04.920 --> 0:01:06.679 We'll go over the lineup for that show. Last night, 0:01:06.720 --> 0:01:10.800 of course, was NXT the fallout from the pay per 0:01:10.920 --> 0:01:14.119 view the pl this past weekend. We'll give you the 0:01:14.800 --> 0:01:20.160 full NXT television report, not exactly the most newsworthy show. 0:01:20.200 --> 0:01:25.679 Although yes, Cody Rhodes was on the show and he 0:01:25.800 --> 0:01:29.160 didn't do much, but they did have a funny moment. 0:01:29.360 --> 0:01:32.120 We'll talk about that. But he was there. And obviously 0:01:32.160 --> 0:01:37.120 the idea is they want to beat tonight's aw Dynamite 0:01:37.200 --> 0:01:39.840 in both the ratings and eighteen to forty nine. They 0:01:39.840 --> 0:01:44.000 had a very little competition yesterday and Dynamites face and 0:01:44.040 --> 0:01:46.880 competition tonight, so they think this might be the week 0:01:46.920 --> 0:01:50.440 to be able to do it. We shall find out. 0:01:51.160 --> 0:01:57.600 We've also got an announcement from WWE and Noah is 0:01:57.680 --> 0:02:01.640 going to be made this weekend. We'll talk about that. 0:02:01.880 --> 0:02:06.080 It's gonna be teased. Ardie Evans, who recently resigned from TNA, 0:02:06.840 --> 0:02:11.519 is now working for ae W. So that was quick. 0:02:11.840 --> 0:02:13.920 We got the raw ratings from Monday night. 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Hey? 0:06:29.160 --> 0:06:29.200 No? 0:06:29.279 --> 0:06:29.359 What? 0:06:29.480 --> 0:06:29.520 No? 0:06:29.600 --> 0:06:34.480 I got my royalty check yesterday Death of WW. I'm 0:06:34.480 --> 0:06:39.080 getting royalty checks twenty years later for this book. If 0:06:39.160 --> 0:06:41.280 you've not read it. If you've not read it, you 0:06:41.320 --> 0:06:43.120 can go to my Twitter at Brian Alvarez or just 0:06:43.120 --> 0:06:46.280 go to Amazon grab your copy of Death of WCW. 0:06:47.120 --> 0:06:50.960 You got kindle edition, the paperback you can you can 0:06:50.960 --> 0:06:53.200 buy like a five hundred dollars hardcover if you can 0:06:53.240 --> 0:06:56.760 find one, really, and the audio book, the audiobook which 0:06:56.800 --> 0:07:01.920 I narrate myself. And if you get an audible if 0:07:01.960 --> 0:07:04.960 you get an audible trial, you get two free books. 0:07:04.960 --> 0:07:07.880 You could choose Death of w CW and I still 0:07:07.880 --> 0:07:08.359 get paid. 0:07:09.720 --> 0:07:12.840 So so you're all for this, then. 0:07:13.240 --> 0:07:15.520 I kind of am? I I sort of am I mean, 0:07:16.080 --> 0:07:18.440 I found out I couldn't. I can't figure out this 0:07:18.560 --> 0:07:23.760 royalty statement. They it's all these numbers. Okay, well, but 0:07:23.840 --> 0:07:29.600 by my estimates, by my estimates I have, we have 0:07:29.720 --> 0:07:34.920 sold R. D Ee Reynolds and I either one hundred 0:07:34.920 --> 0:07:38.120 and one thousand, one hundred and twelve books or one 0:07:38.160 --> 0:07:41.200 hundred and six thousand, six hundred and fifty seven books. 0:07:41.640 --> 0:07:43.360 But I can't figure out which which one it is. 0:07:43.720 --> 0:07:46.480 But the point is it's over one hundred thousand copies sold, 0:07:46.800 --> 0:07:49.040 so I'm very proud of that. Not a lot of 0:07:49.080 --> 0:07:52.840 books sell one hundred thousand copies, and uh, my last 0:07:52.880 --> 0:07:57.640 one certainly did not. You know, you should you know 0:07:57.720 --> 0:07:59.680 you should never do is write a book about w 0:07:59.840 --> 0:08:04.360 W during the least popular period in the history of 0:08:04.440 --> 0:08:06.680 w WE. That turned out to be a bad idea. 0:08:06.640 --> 0:08:07.880 Kind of formulaic too. 0:08:07.920 --> 0:08:11.040 But I mean it did fine. It did fine. I 0:08:11.080 --> 0:08:13.040 think it did like eight thousand or something like that, 0:08:13.080 --> 0:08:15.720 which barely I looked it up, and that's not bad 0:08:15.760 --> 0:08:18.600 for like a normal book, you know, eight thousand copies. 0:08:18.960 --> 0:08:22.200 You also had the but my bar was high. Well. 0:08:22.240 --> 0:08:24.800 You also had the benefit of distribution as well too, 0:08:24.880 --> 0:08:27.480 and being able to get out there when people walk 0:08:27.520 --> 0:08:30.960 into what's left of the bookstores and actually see it 0:08:31.000 --> 0:08:34.080 in the sports section, maybe propped up or something like that. 0:08:34.600 --> 0:08:36.600 You know you did benefit from that, not only from 0:08:36.600 --> 0:08:38.960 your publisher, but from your past success with the death 0:08:38.960 --> 0:08:42.840 of WZW twice, not only in its original form but 0:08:42.880 --> 0:08:45.840 then the anniversary edition. Yeah. 0:08:45.880 --> 0:08:48.480 I talked for about an hour today. The lapsed fan 0:08:48.559 --> 0:08:49.640 should be up at any time. 0:08:50.240 --> 0:08:53.400 Did you apologize to Rick Flayer for apologizing? 0:08:53.720 --> 0:08:55.960 I don't want to talk about these, these people. 0:08:56.040 --> 0:08:57.240 These these they're nuts. 0:08:58.040 --> 0:09:03.480 I'll say about the second episode, is this whose idea 0:09:03.520 --> 0:09:15.440 was it to rehab Eric Bischoff? Anybody? The show ended 0:09:16.240 --> 0:09:20.360 with Eric Bischoff standing there and wherever the hell he 0:09:20.360 --> 0:09:25.120 lives in Wyoming, looking out of the rivers and streams, 0:09:25.840 --> 0:09:31.200 a nice, nice layout there, as everybody talked about how 0:09:31.280 --> 0:09:36.160 amazing he had been in World Championship Roslyn. It's like, 0:09:36.240 --> 0:09:41.440 what listen, I'm as fair man as anybody, Okay. Eric 0:09:41.480 --> 0:09:47.800 Bischoff ninety four, ninety five ninety six. I mean that guy, 0:09:48.920 --> 0:09:51.480 Holy smokes, a guy did a hell of a job. 0:09:51.679 --> 0:09:53.439 He had some visions. 0:09:54.040 --> 0:09:57.920 But then, and as I mentioned on the show today, 0:09:58.280 --> 0:10:04.640 I'm one of the rare fools. Fools who went back 0:10:04.640 --> 0:10:08.880 and watched the entire Monday Night Wars twice. I watched 0:10:08.920 --> 0:10:13.480 it twice. I watched it once live, and then I 0:10:13.520 --> 0:10:17.080 went back and I watched the entire Monday Night Wars 0:10:17.120 --> 0:10:21.760 a second time. Yes, And what did I learn upon 0:10:21.920 --> 0:10:25.559 second viewing? I learned a lot of things. But one 0:10:25.600 --> 0:10:27.600 of the things that I that I learned that people 0:10:27.640 --> 0:10:32.239 don't talk about nearly enough is everybody always talks about Fingerpoker, 0:10:32.280 --> 0:10:38.320 Doom and Starcade and that bash of the Beach and 0:10:38.360 --> 0:10:43.640 this and that. But do you know when and as 0:10:43.679 --> 0:10:49.520 I rewatched it, as I rewatched it, when I first realized, WHOA, 0:10:50.559 --> 0:10:53.640 something's up? You know what? You know what it was? Yes? 0:10:55.480 --> 0:10:59.880 Yes, oh god, I have no idea. Something in nine, 0:11:00.679 --> 0:11:03.080 late ninety early what ninety. 0:11:02.800 --> 0:11:05.800 Seven, believe it or not, it was slightly earlier, late 0:11:05.880 --> 0:11:10.480 ninety six. As we rewatched all of these shows, ninety 0:11:10.520 --> 0:11:17.400 five was awesome, Yeah, ninety six was was awesome, pretty awesome. 0:11:17.640 --> 0:11:26.040 But when Eric joined the nWo, when when he became 0:11:26.080 --> 0:11:29.880 a television character, that was I don't know if it 0:11:29.920 --> 0:11:31.760 was that exact show where it was like a couple 0:11:31.800 --> 0:11:34.600 of weeks with a couple of weeks in but he joined. 0:11:34.600 --> 0:11:37.760 It was November ninety six. Someone says Eric joined the 0:11:37.840 --> 0:11:41.360 nWo and there was a nitro and it was the 0:11:41.360 --> 0:11:45.720 first one where I was like, okay, sums up here, 0:11:46.480 --> 0:11:50.520 like something didn't make sense or you know, I can't 0:11:50.520 --> 0:11:53.240 remember exactly what it was, but it really hit me 0:11:53.440 --> 0:11:56.439 watching it a second time. That was the beginning when 0:11:56.440 --> 0:12:00.600 he made himself a television character and his sartin went 0:12:00.640 --> 0:12:04.480 from booking the show and everything to God, I gotta 0:12:04.520 --> 0:12:06.520 do some stuff on TV. Now, I gotta do a promo. 0:12:07.080 --> 0:12:11.000 I got to be in this segment that was That 0:12:11.240 --> 0:12:14.319 was the first time one of the bolts on the 0:12:14.320 --> 0:12:18.200 wheel started a wobble. And then you know, by early 0:12:18.240 --> 0:12:20.800 ninety eight they were doing great, but it was very 0:12:20.800 --> 0:12:24.560 clear this things careening out of control. And then there 0:12:24.600 --> 0:12:25.040 we go. 0:12:25.720 --> 0:12:28.600 And look with Bischoff at the time of doing it, 0:12:29.360 --> 0:12:33.160 he was riding high. Everything was going great. As you said, 0:12:33.240 --> 0:12:36.800 we haven't even gotten to them, you know, reaping the 0:12:36.840 --> 0:12:40.760 benefits monetarily it let alone ratings wise, and all the 0:12:40.800 --> 0:12:43.520 prestige that came with that, and all the crossover that 0:12:43.640 --> 0:12:47.720 came with that, and ultimately at the end of the day, 0:12:47.800 --> 0:12:50.839 the tail just ended up wagging the dog because there 0:12:50.840 --> 0:12:54.520 were so many forces that so many puzzle pieces that 0:12:54.600 --> 0:12:58.000 got put into play, the power that Nation Hall had, 0:12:58.040 --> 0:13:02.160 the power that Hogan had just having such a large 0:13:02.280 --> 0:13:04.560 roster and not a lot of control, the fact that 0:13:04.640 --> 0:13:06.560 there was still a lot of old school is all 0:13:06.600 --> 0:13:10.120 this new school stuff was taking place. The guaranteed all 0:13:10.200 --> 0:13:14.200 of these things, and they all culminated into the death 0:13:14.240 --> 0:13:18.240 of WCW. And at the end of this thing, I'll 0:13:18.280 --> 0:13:22.160 be interested to see how this series culminates and if 0:13:22.160 --> 0:13:25.440 there's any actual answer given or somebody hung out to 0:13:25.559 --> 0:13:28.959 dry and made out to look worse than the next person. 0:13:29.280 --> 0:13:31.760 But I get a feeling that that's not going to happen, because, 0:13:31.760 --> 0:13:34.800 as you mentioned with Bischoff, we had him get completely 0:13:34.840 --> 0:13:37.880 slagged and we actually have him standing a little bit tall. 0:13:37.920 --> 0:13:39.960 And I think ultimately that's what we're going to see 0:13:39.960 --> 0:13:43.800 out of this, with people, you know, explaining themselves as 0:13:43.800 --> 0:13:47.199 to why they weren't the reason as to why somebody 0:13:47.200 --> 0:13:50.040 else was. And I think ultimately that's how this thing 0:13:50.120 --> 0:13:51.920 is going to end. And it's going to be one 0:13:52.000 --> 0:13:55.520 of those stories, much like the Montreal screw Job and 0:13:55.600 --> 0:13:58.640 a couple of other things that just will end up 0:13:58.720 --> 0:14:01.520 lasting for a lot longer than it probably should. 0:14:02.160 --> 0:14:03.720 But anyway, going back to the point of the show. 0:14:03.760 --> 0:14:07.720 Last night, it was all about man Eric Bischoff. The 0:14:07.800 --> 0:14:11.840 story was everything great that happened in WCW was Eric Bischoff, 0:14:12.120 --> 0:14:18.760 oh boy, And everything that went wrong was someone else's fault. 0:14:19.240 --> 0:14:21.560 You know what, I'm gonna have to hear the same 0:14:21.600 --> 0:14:28.600 thing next week with Vince Russo. Everything was everyone else's fault. 0:14:29.280 --> 0:14:29.480 Yeah. 0:14:30.840 --> 0:14:33.440 Now, okay, so we've got Eric Bischoff has played a 0:14:33.440 --> 0:14:36.640 big role. Do you think Brad Stiegel, I'm sure by 0:14:36.680 --> 0:14:38.680 the end of this thing is going to essentially have 0:14:38.760 --> 0:14:41.320 one of his own episodes. But from what they've shown, 0:14:41.760 --> 0:14:42.080 do you. 0:14:42.000 --> 0:14:44.600 Think I actually don't know who the last episode will be. Well, 0:14:44.720 --> 0:14:47.120 we got Bischoff this week, we got Russo next week. 0:14:47.160 --> 0:14:48.880 I figured we'd have Nash in the last week. 0:14:49.000 --> 0:14:51.600 Well, I was wondering about Kevin Nash's part into that. 0:14:51.680 --> 0:14:55.840 But I think ultimately AOL Jamie Kellner, because again, there 0:14:55.840 --> 0:14:59.200 are people and at the time, you know, hey, this 0:14:59.280 --> 0:15:01.720 thing could have rolled, but it was AOL that killed it. 0:15:01.800 --> 0:15:04.480 Time Warner pulled the plug. You see how he's talked 0:15:04.480 --> 0:15:07.840 about TNT in the Prestige and all of that stuff 0:15:07.840 --> 0:15:11.520 and not liking wrestling. I'm sure he's going to have 0:15:11.600 --> 0:15:14.800 probably more of a dedicated episode before this thing is done. 0:15:15.120 --> 0:15:18.920 Well, we'll see. There's only four episodes, so number four 0:15:19.120 --> 0:15:22.720 is the one I'm interested in. But anyway, at the 0:15:22.760 --> 0:15:24.640 end of the day, everyone you know, I died because 0:15:24.680 --> 0:15:25.680 it sucked. 0:15:26.160 --> 0:15:27.960 And you know how you can read all about that 0:15:28.240 --> 0:15:30.680 in the depth of WCW available now. 0:15:31.480 --> 0:15:33.520 Yeah, I hope I never have to talk about this 0:15:33.560 --> 0:15:34.320 again after. 0:15:34.080 --> 0:16:46.680 This will mack him on with more, everybody, Observer lie. 0:16:12.240 --> 0:16:15.720 You are listening to Wrestling Observer Live with Brian Alvarez 0:16:15.760 --> 0:16:19.480 and Mike semperviv on the Sports Byline Broadcasting Network. 0:16:21.960 --> 0:16:25.280 By the show Brian Alvarez here, Wrestling Observer Live, Mike 0:16:25.320 --> 0:16:30.160 sember vv also Wrestling Observer dot Com. Well on to 0:16:30.280 --> 0:16:33.920 other news here, because of course there is always other news. 0:16:34.280 --> 0:16:38.480 Announcement from WWE and Noah said to be made this 0:16:38.560 --> 0:16:43.200 weekend a quote major announcement and Noah's Grand Ship twenty 0:16:43.240 --> 0:16:48.040 twenty four show. What a name Noah's Grand Ship. 0:16:48.520 --> 0:16:50.840 Well they've been known for that over the years. Yes, 0:16:51.560 --> 0:16:54.320 Virgin Navigation on the Green Matt sort. 0:16:54.160 --> 0:16:58.440 Of thing, breaking a major announcement from Noah WWE will 0:16:58.480 --> 0:17:02.560 be made at our Yokama boot event on Sunday. A 0:17:02.600 --> 0:17:06.600 message from a certain wrestler will also be released. Do 0:17:06.640 --> 0:17:09.960 you think it'll be should Skate Knackamara? I think it'll 0:17:09.960 --> 0:17:11.280 be obvious that something's happening. 0:17:12.520 --> 0:17:13.240 Thanks, boss. 0:17:13.359 --> 0:17:16.040 Well, they're probably working together you for the scoops. They're 0:17:16.080 --> 0:17:18.440 trying to u w W is trying to make uh 0:17:18.560 --> 0:17:21.879 you know, they're trying to They're they're not announcement. 0:17:21.960 --> 0:17:24.440 If something's gonna happen, something's gonna happen. 0:17:24.520 --> 0:17:28.399 They're not Vince. They're working with Mary Gold, They're working 0:17:28.440 --> 0:17:32.239 with T and A. They're gonna be working with Noah. Now, 0:17:32.280 --> 0:17:34.119 the question is who's coming where. 0:17:34.520 --> 0:17:37.320 Should Skate Knackamara is gonna go over? That makes the 0:17:37.359 --> 0:17:38.080 most sense to me. 0:17:38.440 --> 0:17:43.040 Who are you gonna get from Noah Gabe Kid. 0:17:43.480 --> 0:17:44.639 Oh, come on, he's in New Japan. 0:17:44.960 --> 0:17:46.920 I nobody's working. Kato Kiomia coming up? 0:17:47.160 --> 0:17:50.560 I know, Well, look, that ain't gonna happen. There's too 0:17:50.600 --> 0:17:55.359 much politics there. Brother. You got to c CML and 0:17:55.400 --> 0:17:58.159 Triple A or on the same page. Right now, as 0:17:58.200 --> 0:18:00.720 far as working ae W shows, let's not push it. 0:18:00.720 --> 0:18:04.520 As far as the Kumbaya goes across wrestling, you know. 0:18:04.640 --> 0:18:07.440 And look, this does not have to be somebody going 0:18:07.480 --> 0:18:11.720 over to work in WWE propery either. It could be 0:18:11.760 --> 0:18:13.560 somebody just coming over to work in at. 0:18:13.520 --> 0:18:17.159 Oh, somebody will work in NXT guaranteed in WWE as 0:18:17.160 --> 0:18:20.560 because WWE has house shows there apps July twenty five 0:18:20.640 --> 0:18:21.520 through twenty seven. 0:18:21.640 --> 0:18:24.439 Yes they do, and they gotta get this is the 0:18:24.480 --> 0:18:26.640 first time they're going to be dealing with their new 0:18:26.680 --> 0:18:29.320 business partner over there, Bama, who has had a long 0:18:29.760 --> 0:18:33.679 relationship with Noah and involved in wrestling, So this is 0:18:33.720 --> 0:18:36.120 going to be a big deal. We know the Merrigold deal. 0:18:36.160 --> 0:18:38.440 We know about Eyo Sky going over to faced off 0:18:38.440 --> 0:18:42.679 against Haya Shishta. So look, maybe somebody shows up at 0:18:42.720 --> 0:18:45.320 that Battle Royal against Trick Williams. We see a name 0:18:45.359 --> 0:18:48.520 out there Rio he Oe. Well, I guess Noah. Never mind, 0:18:48.560 --> 0:18:50.879 he's a new japan guy too. I don't know, but 0:18:50.960 --> 0:18:54.160 we can see somebody from Noah certainly in the Battle Royal. 0:18:54.200 --> 0:18:56.960 But I think it's more about what Noah can get 0:18:57.000 --> 0:18:59.080 out of the deal and being able to get Eo 0:18:59.280 --> 0:19:02.480 and Chinska and you know, people like that onto the show. 0:19:03.960 --> 0:19:06.919 I got distracted here by uh people talking about this 0:19:07.040 --> 0:19:10.119 w CW thing again. Oh yeah, this actually is from 0:19:10.160 --> 0:19:15.040 the board and this guy here the FRO says Bishop 0:19:15.160 --> 0:19:18.720 and everyone made tons of mistakes, but that he has 0:19:18.800 --> 0:19:22.600 some uh you know, thunder was pushed on them by 0:19:22.680 --> 0:19:26.919 TBS led to additional expenses and booking burnout. 0:19:27.280 --> 0:19:29.040 That that hurt. Yeah, that was part of it. 0:19:29.119 --> 0:19:30.880 Well, you know, I seem to recall the same time 0:19:31.160 --> 0:19:34.560 w w F added SmackDown and it worked out just fine. 0:19:34.760 --> 0:19:37.359 It did, but they caused a lot of stress and 0:19:37.400 --> 0:19:40.440 it was also far but Brian far different operation too 0:19:40.480 --> 0:19:42.240 by the time he got to that point, I know. 0:19:42.280 --> 0:19:44.639 But my point is, my point is adding another show 0:19:45.680 --> 0:19:48.120 is not the end of the world if you are competent. 0:19:49.119 --> 0:19:52.440 That's true. But also with WCW, what you also have 0:19:52.480 --> 0:19:55.960 to admit is it was death by a thousand cuts. 0:19:56.359 --> 0:19:59.840 And everybody that took a stab over the time bled 0:20:00.119 --> 0:20:02.199 out and there was a lot of bad decisions that 0:20:02.280 --> 0:20:04.439 got made. It was a lot of self inflicted wounds 0:20:04.480 --> 0:20:07.280 that happened along the line. And that's why again at 0:20:07.280 --> 0:20:08.840 the end of the day, when it comes to this 0:20:08.880 --> 0:20:15.160 who killed WCW. Everybody, everybody had a hand in bringing 0:20:15.200 --> 0:20:19.520 that thing down from Turner executives and the AOL buyout 0:20:19.520 --> 0:20:22.240 in Time Warner on right down to the person that 0:20:22.400 --> 0:20:25.080 just didn't care and didn't show up for house shows 0:20:25.080 --> 0:20:28.119 and ended up killing that business. I mean, there was 0:20:28.320 --> 0:20:31.360 everything that they could have done to self sabotage. They 0:20:31.480 --> 0:20:32.440 absolutely did. 0:20:33.000 --> 0:20:33.080 Now. 0:20:33.240 --> 0:20:35.560 He also says nobody came forward to dispute the quote 0:20:35.600 --> 0:20:39.440 creative accounting that Dick Cheetah mentions in the Nitro book 0:20:39.440 --> 0:20:41.919 and in the documentary Last Night Stuff getting dumped on 0:20:42.119 --> 0:20:45.359 WCW's books to make TBS and TNT look more profitable. 0:20:45.760 --> 0:20:47.919 Quotes seemed to back that up in the dock, etcetera, etcetera. 0:20:48.040 --> 0:20:50.800 All right, first off, First off, listen, I've never heard 0:20:50.800 --> 0:20:53.840 the story, not saying it's not true, but this seems 0:20:53.880 --> 0:20:56.159 like new information that Eric Mischoff has come up with. 0:20:56.800 --> 0:20:59.960 They you know, took some of our profits and shifted 0:21:00.080 --> 0:21:02.760 them to other divisions to make us look worse. That's 0:21:02.880 --> 0:21:08.120 that's his claim. Has anyone mentioned that early on when 0:21:08.400 --> 0:21:11.560 they needed to sign guys like Hulkogen, et cetera, that 0:21:12.040 --> 0:21:14.840 some of these contracts were actually you know, paid from 0:21:14.840 --> 0:21:20.080 the Turner side and not WCW. Yeah. Interesting, so maybe 0:21:20.119 --> 0:21:21.960 some of that money was just kind of paying that back. 0:21:22.840 --> 0:21:25.119 And you know the other thing is let me, let me, 0:21:25.240 --> 0:21:29.720 let me ask somebody every question. Okay, I'm asking a question. 0:21:30.320 --> 0:21:41.359 So WCW units last year lost sixty two million dollars. Okay. 0:21:41.640 --> 0:21:46.080 The excuse is, well, you know, some of those profits 0:21:48.000 --> 0:21:52.320 were shifted to other divisions that needed to be bolstered, right, 0:21:52.680 --> 0:21:55.880 that's the claim that. Okay, first off, when you're losing 0:21:55.880 --> 0:21:59.680 sixty two million, there ain't no profits. Oh wait, well whatever, 0:22:00.920 --> 0:22:06.399 Let's look at it this way. Let's say that in 0:22:06.440 --> 0:22:08.679 their peak year, by the way, let's say that they 0:22:09.280 --> 0:22:11.760 made one hundred and twenty five million dollars, which they did. 0:22:12.359 --> 0:22:14.080 I think it was ninety seven. So it was a 0:22:14.119 --> 0:22:18.160 profitable year in the history of any wrestling company, ever 0:22:18.640 --> 0:22:20.280 more so than w W had ever made a year 0:22:20.359 --> 0:22:23.920 hundred twenty five million dollars. Okay. So let's say if 0:22:23.960 --> 0:22:28.240 they continued on that trajectory, they continued doing well. They were, 0:22:29.400 --> 0:22:31.600 they were making one hundred and fifty million a year. 0:22:32.240 --> 0:22:34.120 Let's say in two thousand, if everything had gone great, 0:22:34.119 --> 0:22:36.480 they were making two hundred million dollars a year. Okay, 0:22:37.359 --> 0:22:40.480 So they're making two hundred million dollars a year, and 0:22:40.560 --> 0:22:46.080 Turner is doing creative accounting to take even one hundred 0:22:46.160 --> 0:22:49.720 million of that to shift it into other divisions that 0:22:49.880 --> 0:22:55.199 need to be bolstered. Let's imagine that happened. Okay, if 0:22:55.200 --> 0:22:58.040 you had a company that's making two hundred million dollars 0:22:58.560 --> 0:23:00.959 and it is allowing you to create creatively, take one 0:23:01.080 --> 0:23:03.840 hundred million of that to bolster up other divisions that 0:23:03.880 --> 0:23:12.240 are not doing as well. Why would you unloaded? Why 0:23:12.240 --> 0:23:16.960 would you do that? The reason it got unloaded was 0:23:17.000 --> 0:23:20.719 because it was losing money hand over fist. It was 0:23:20.760 --> 0:23:23.960 not making any money. It was making no money to 0:23:24.000 --> 0:23:27.359 go to other divisions. It was doing nothing but losing money. 0:23:27.600 --> 0:23:29.960 It was losing money on house shows, it was losing 0:23:30.040 --> 0:23:32.840 money on pay per views, it was losing money on television. 0:23:33.119 --> 0:23:38.040 It was losing money on everything because it sucked. So 0:23:38.760 --> 0:23:41.320