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<v Speaker 1>Of the law and order franchises. SVU is considered especially watchable.

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<v Speaker 2>We are the amateur detectives who kind of investigate the

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<v Speaker 2>vicious felonies.

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<v Speaker 3>These episodes are based on.

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<v Speaker 4>These are our stories, done done.

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<v Speaker 1>Hello, welcome to That's Messed Up, an SVU podcast.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm Kara Klank and I'm Liza Traeger, and here we

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<v Speaker 2>talk SVU true crime. We talk to celeb guests or not,

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<v Speaker 2>so you'll have to wait till the end to see

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<v Speaker 2>what we got to tuck in here. I don't know,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean it it is truly December tenth today. We

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<v Speaker 2>are so in the time machine, you are fully January seventh.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, I don't know what we're supposed to talk.

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<v Speaker 1>Like, we've already missed all the jokes about January sixth.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like New Year's Resolutions have already come and gone

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<v Speaker 1>by the time this episode is coming out, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>like lot of our movies have been watched, everything has done,

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<v Speaker 1>but we can't come.

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<v Speaker 2>But we don't know. We don't know what we got

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<v Speaker 2>for Christmas. We don't know how the winter went. Like, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>we don't know if more CEOs were gunned down in

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<v Speaker 2>the streets. We do we don't know. I mean was

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<v Speaker 2>here all the way in the beginning of December. I

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<v Speaker 2>mean tonight, in real time, I'm gonna go see the

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<v Speaker 2>Big Gay Jamboree's it's a show. I don't know, but

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<v Speaker 2>it's the star from Tysanni and it's like the piano player.

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<v Speaker 2>I see a lot of club coming who plays with

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<v Speaker 2>cat and like the I think the guy from snel

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<v Speaker 2>is on. It's just a show.

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<v Speaker 3>It's a show.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know what to tell you, like like a

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<v Speaker 1>variety show, cabaret type thing.

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<v Speaker 2>Like no, I think it's a musical. It's a musical.

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<v Speaker 2>It's it's got it. Yeah, the Big Gay Jamboree. I

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<v Speaker 2>think it's like someone is stuck in a gay musical.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know. It's a play fun, that's fun. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Closes on the fifteenth of December, so you can't even

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<v Speaker 2>go how about that?

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<v Speaker 3>How about that?

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<v Speaker 1>It's so far in the future. We're so far in

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<v Speaker 1>the future, but cant even know. We're uh, we're we're

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<v Speaker 1>still we're here. It's the first episode of twenty twenty five.

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<v Speaker 1>Big plans for the new year, just kidding. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>have any big plans. I don't know we'll see. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know what's gonna happen in twenty twenty five, but.

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<v Speaker 2>My Special Lill is hopefully still coming out January twenty eighth.

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<v Speaker 2>Who knows what big things might happen from inauguration to

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<v Speaker 2>the special.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know, but night now comes out. I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>TikTok's even around now anymore or not?

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<v Speaker 2>Like we're at a time now where Jane like, TikTok

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<v Speaker 2>might be illegal in our land right now. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>and we're not even talking about it because we don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>It's just, you know, an idea in the air. It's

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<v Speaker 2>just an idea in the air.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I I will see, I will be I will

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<v Speaker 1>be interested to see.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, I don't know if he's gonna do anything

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<v Speaker 3>that he says is gonna do.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll see, we'll see. I got friends moving to Canada.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know. I don't know what's gonna go on.

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<v Speaker 3>Are they rich? Rich rich people move into Canada?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, one, it's one friend. I don't know why I

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<v Speaker 1>said plural, but it's him and his boyfriend. Uh, but yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>he's rich, so he can do that. And well that

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<v Speaker 1>was the thing.

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<v Speaker 2>It was like Roberts in here and like certain people

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<v Speaker 2>being like and I'm out of here. It's like no

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<v Speaker 2>one actually cares about you. Like you were a millionaire

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<v Speaker 2>with homes everywhere already, so what is you leaving? Have

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<v Speaker 2>any You're not doing anything right, right? I mean you

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<v Speaker 2>should you should go survive. They kill artists, like sure,

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<v Speaker 2>if you're a millionaire. But it's just like, I'm sorry,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't care.

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<v Speaker 3>Ellen.

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<v Speaker 2>If you're moved to France, yeah, yeah, yeah, I think

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<v Speaker 2>you would have been fine.

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<v Speaker 3>So, oh, you know what I was going to bring up.

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<v Speaker 1>This is probably old news at this point, but I

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<v Speaker 1>caught this and I took a screenshot of it. You

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<v Speaker 1>know the family that we talked about in the Turpin

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<v Speaker 1>family in California in the esters Book Broster episode that

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<v Speaker 1>we did, did you guys know that? According to Oprah Tyler,

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<v Speaker 1>Perry saw like a special about that family and has

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<v Speaker 1>taken care of them, like into their adulthood, those kids.

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<v Speaker 1>Like he has financially taken care of that family. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>he's like a quiet good Samaritan.

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<v Speaker 2>Well yeah, he also you know, he famously paid for

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<v Speaker 2>security for U Megan Markle And.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh that's right, that's right. I think.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean he's very wealthy, and I think he is

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<v Speaker 2>doing good stuff.

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<v Speaker 3>Wow, taking care of the this is good news.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah yeah, I thought it was like a little kid

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<v Speaker 1>he helped update.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh god, crazy of all. Just I know these children

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<v Speaker 2>in sesque family vibes. Wow, Tyler Perry, I'm just like obsessed.

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<v Speaker 2>I know he's killing it. I don't know if I've

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<v Speaker 2>ever seen a Tyler Perry project, though I have seen one.

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<v Speaker 1>I went to see a Medea Halloween or whatever the

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<v Speaker 1>Halloween was that came out like five four or five

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<v Speaker 1>years ago.

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<v Speaker 3>Uh huh.

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<v Speaker 1>We went with a big group of people and it

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<v Speaker 1>was the first time I had ever seen one of

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<v Speaker 1>those movies, and I was like, it was it was

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<v Speaker 1>like an interesting It was fun to go in a

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<v Speaker 1>theater with a bunch of friends.

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<v Speaker 3>But the movies are insane. I mean they're they.

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<v Speaker 1>Literally star just the regular people that are always in them,

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<v Speaker 1>him playing seven characters or whatever. And then he had

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<v Speaker 1>a ton of like TikTok people or Instagram stars that

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<v Speaker 1>I had never heard of before that were just in him. Oh.

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<v Speaker 2>I think I was on Jean Marco's podcast. But the

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<v Speaker 2>Tyler Perry playing all the characters. Obviously Eddie Murphy played

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<v Speaker 2>you know, like the line of that. But I guess

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<v Speaker 2>there's a right wing conservative guy and he like dresses

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<v Speaker 2>in women's clothing and like make up in a way.

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<v Speaker 3>Again it's like I'm trans but is uh? Or you know,

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<v Speaker 3>look at me?

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<v Speaker 2>But John Murco is bringing up that he's never repeated

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<v Speaker 2>an outfit, that it's all sewn to perfection, and that

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<v Speaker 2>his makeup looks incredible, and like, I wonder how many

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<v Speaker 2>years into this is he gonna be like, Oh I

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<v Speaker 2>like this, you know what I mean? Yeah, because all

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<v Speaker 2>the things like oh am I a woman now?

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<v Speaker 1>And it's like it seems like you're padding is pretty

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<v Speaker 1>on point. Yeah, you're you're definitely looking up tutorials. You're

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<v Speaker 1>not just like spackling on some makeup here.

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<v Speaker 2>So yeah, because so the quote that he used when

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<v Speaker 2>I was I think I was on their pod was like,

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<v Speaker 2>if you write a woman a sonet, you love her.

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<v Speaker 2>If you write someone five hundred sonnets, you love sonnets. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>so I just thought. I also just met a friend

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<v Speaker 2>of a friend and every Halloween he likes to get

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<v Speaker 2>really slutty. He goes, it's when women dress slutty, and

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<v Speaker 2>I like to honor that Halloween tradition, and it's not

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<v Speaker 2>always like woman slutty, like sometimes I forgot the option,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, like the boor at the bathing suit's kind

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<v Speaker 2>of slutty.

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<v Speaker 3>Like you could.

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<v Speaker 2>But this past year he was a Dallas Cowboys cheerleader

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<v Speaker 2>like wig, but nobody'd be like a full little outfit

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<v Speaker 2>and he goes out no jacket and it's very important

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<v Speaker 2>to him to just like be a part of Halloween culture.

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<v Speaker 2>And he said that they went to like a Broie

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<v Speaker 2>bar and this like big ass bro was like going

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<v Speaker 2>over and talk to me.

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<v Speaker 3>He's like, great, I'm gonna get fucked with.

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<v Speaker 2>But the guy said to him, whenever I look in

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<v Speaker 2>the mirror, I wish I saw what you look like.

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<v Speaker 3>And so then he was like, oh okay.

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<v Speaker 2>And then his friend was talking to the guys for

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<v Speaker 2>like the two friends of these guys are talking and

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<v Speaker 2>the guy went, oh, no, my friend's trying to fuck

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<v Speaker 2>your friend for sure. So then I was thinking about

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<v Speaker 2>the pickup line of like wanting to see that in

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<v Speaker 2>the mirror but also fuck this person, and yeah, I

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<v Speaker 2>was just I've been thinking about it for days, so

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<v Speaker 2>shout out, wow.

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<v Speaker 3>That is interesting, geez.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, because his wife actually got us a new list.

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<v Speaker 2>I think his his sister in law is now listening

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<v Speaker 2>to the pod, so welcome, but hello, welcome to this.

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<v Speaker 2>But yeah, to be like, every time I look at

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<v Speaker 2>the mirror, I wish I looked like you. So it's

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<v Speaker 2>like I just wonder how. I mean, we know howman like.

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<v Speaker 2>We know it's a lot because gay dudes are fucking

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<v Speaker 2>straight dudes all the time quote unquote yes so, but

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<v Speaker 2>I am curious how many ultra aggressive, agro straight.

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<v Speaker 3>Guys are really like on Halloween.

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<v Speaker 2>Trying to fuck as straight dude and a cowboy cheerleader outfit,

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<v Speaker 2>and how much of it is wanting to know fuck

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<v Speaker 2>the person and then be the person.

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<v Speaker 3>And it's just like, ye, so wild, and.

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<v Speaker 1>There's like a narcissism in there, like you want to

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<v Speaker 1>fuck the person that you want to be also like

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<v Speaker 1>because you Yeah, I don't know, that's weird, that's crazy.

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<v Speaker 1>But I hope that that guy finds what he's looking for.

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<v Speaker 1>I hope he finds the right cheerleader. Well, gays do

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<v Speaker 1>that for sure. They love to fuck people that look

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<v Speaker 1>like themselves. Oh, I have like so many friends that

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<v Speaker 1>are married to people that look exactly like them. It's like,

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<v Speaker 1>so it's so crazy. Wait you were speaking of you

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<v Speaker 1>were talking about Eddie Murphy for a second.

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<v Speaker 3>Just reminded me.

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<v Speaker 1>Did you see that Eddie Murphy and Martin Lawrence's kids

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<v Speaker 1>are engaged to each other?

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<v Speaker 3>I thought that was cute all that like that.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I think it's I think it's Eddie Murphy's son

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<v Speaker 1>and Martin Lawrence's daughter, or I might be reversed, but like, yeah, they're.

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<v Speaker 3>Kind of the white version of that.

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<v Speaker 2>I would says Tony Hawk's child son is married to

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<v Speaker 2>Kurt Cobain and Courtney Yes' daughter, and I feel like that's, uh,

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<v Speaker 2>that's pretty epic too. I mean the net posts are

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<v Speaker 2>just everywhere. I yeah, and they're all, yeah, getting married.

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<v Speaker 2>Why wouldn't they marry each other?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I kind of like, I kind of I think

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<v Speaker 1>that's like so cute. I mean everything on the internet

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<v Speaker 1>is about Luigi. It's really hard to get away from it.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean it's another week and we still don't know

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<v Speaker 1>what's going on with that.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>For me, it's like end of Era's tour. It's still

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<v Speaker 2>wicked over here. For us, it's still Luigi. It's Oh

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<v Speaker 2>and then there was like a post where it's him

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<v Speaker 2>and jail being like, no, not Penn State, Penn, Like yeah, that.

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<v Speaker 1>Was like somebody said it last night. He was like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>we went to Penn and I was like, oh, that

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<v Speaker 1>was my dream school.

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<v Speaker 3>I wanted to go there. He did get in.

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<v Speaker 1>I really wanted to go to Penn. Well, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I'll never be as good as Luigi. Should we get started.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I got a great episode.

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<v Speaker 3>I know it's a really good episode. I really like it.

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<v Speaker 2>I just feel like, oh, a Southern Charm premiered, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>a month and a half ago, so talk about statement

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<v Speaker 2>of Southern farm. But Shep, Oh my god, So you know,

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<v Speaker 2>Shep's always a mess and like, I don't know much

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<v Speaker 2>you know about it these for those who don't watch,

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<v Speaker 2>it's like descendants of slave owners living in Charleston and

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<v Speaker 2>they're all wealthy and kind of douchey, and then a

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<v Speaker 2>few you.

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<v Speaker 3>Know, Craig's and Northerner. But Shep's just a mess.

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<v Speaker 2>He's a classic frat boy, like a Will Ferrell wedding

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<v Speaker 2>crashers in his forties and last Bravo con he got

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<v Speaker 2>so fucked up to the point like that was all

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<v Speaker 2>part of the reunion last season was like he fucked

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<v Speaker 2>up so bad, he was so blacked out, and everyone

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<v Speaker 2>kind of ditched him and didn't want to deal with

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<v Speaker 2>his shit anymore. Like Craig's like, I have a business,

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<v Speaker 2>I have shit to do, Like I'm not dealing with

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<v Speaker 2>her blacked out ass. And he does the most classic thing,

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<v Speaker 2>which is he does ayahuasca and then he sits down

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<v Speaker 2>and blames them for being bad friends and abandoning him

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<v Speaker 2>and taking no responsibility for his drinking, and I just

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<v Speaker 2>love that, And Craig's like, yeah, I've been drinking like

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<v Speaker 2>ten minutes. I barely drink anymore. Like I don't know

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<v Speaker 2>what to tell you. I don't want to hang out,

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<v Speaker 2>like this is not a But then they have to

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<v Speaker 2>apologize and be like, yeah, we should have been.

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<v Speaker 3>There for you.

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<v Speaker 2>But it's like we've seen this breakdown so many times,

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<v Speaker 2>like the fact that like you went to do ayahuasca

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<v Speaker 2>and it's still not like how I could change.

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<v Speaker 3>It's like, you guys are actually bad friends. When I

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<v Speaker 3>was blacked out, so.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I actually got a lot of clarity on something,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's that you guys are all wrong, Like you

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<v Speaker 1>guys are actually the beast.

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<v Speaker 3>That actually happened.

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<v Speaker 2>I went and had a drug journey with a big

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<v Speaker 2>group and one of the people who is I would say,

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<v Speaker 2>the most sunhinged. Her big takeaway was that she has

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<v Speaker 2>everything figured out and she's right about everything, and she

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<v Speaker 2>has no problems and she solved them all.

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<v Speaker 3>Wow. That was her big powerful drug. Wow.

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<v Speaker 2>That is so powerful. She's like, I have nothing to

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<v Speaker 2>work on. It's all good, and we're like, okay, cool.

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<v Speaker 1>Everybody's like crying, throwing up, like talking to spirits gone,

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<v Speaker 1>and she's like, I'm actually killing it. I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>what to say. Wow, Wow, I know who you're talking about.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm almost positive and that makes a lot of sense.

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<v Speaker 1>But uh, I hope everybody's getting uh is starting off

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<v Speaker 1>their year with a not a person that's told them

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<v Speaker 1>that they're the worst in after a drug journey. But

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<v Speaker 1>let's let's start right. We've got a great episode today

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<v Speaker 1>and uh, don't go anywhere. It's about to start. Okay, thrilled.

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<v Speaker 1>I've been wanting to do this episode for a while.

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<v Speaker 1>Prodigy Season three, episode thirteen, Get with it, Okay. So

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<v Speaker 1>two cops that look like they're straight from the Andy

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<v Speaker 1>Griffith Show comically giant hats.

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<v Speaker 3>These are uniform dorks and.

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<v Speaker 2>They're at a boat's slip doc area talking boat lingo

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<v Speaker 2>retirement plans, and they're like and then one of them's like,

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<v Speaker 2>retirement you haven't even been here six months?

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<v Speaker 3>Like what?

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<v Speaker 2>But I guess that's the young The young post is

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<v Speaker 2>the boats. They see a man with a Duffel in

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<v Speaker 2>the middle of the night.

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<v Speaker 3>Not good.

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<v Speaker 2>They ask for his marina pass. Clearly he doesn't have one.

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<v Speaker 2>Why play these games? Flashlights up the duffel boys starts running.

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<v Speaker 2>He tosses the bag into the water and runs off.

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<v Speaker 2>The chase is on until they trip over another like

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<v Speaker 2>active crime scene. So that sucks, And it's an old

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<v Speaker 2>dead man suggestively posed onto a young dead woman and

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<v Speaker 2>Pixie cut Benson quickly on the scene with Stabler filling

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<v Speaker 2>her in.

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<v Speaker 3>No wallet on the guy.

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<v Speaker 2>The woman is strip naked sexually positioned after death and

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<v Speaker 2>they're looking for the weapon and then the hands are

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<v Speaker 2>missing of the woman and then Benson goes and the

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<v Speaker 2>head so knock the.

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<v Speaker 1>Gruesome as they say, a gruesome crime scene and.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, is it the man with the duffel or not?

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<v Speaker 2>They have him in custody so let's do a little chat.

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<v Speaker 2>They can't chat. He's deaf, and that's the lead into

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<v Speaker 2>the credits. So the big dun done is they have

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<v Speaker 2>to wait for an interpreter, and that's the cliffhanger that

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<v Speaker 2>we go into the credits with. They got him in

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<v Speaker 2>cement room bars and he's annoyed and you know he's

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<v Speaker 2>signing with the detectives though. He goes, yeah, I'm deaf,

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<v Speaker 2>not dumb, because they're treating him like like he's an idiot.

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<v Speaker 2>He doesn't want a lawyer though, because he did nothing wrong,

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<v Speaker 2>and they're like, okay, you were on the docks. He goes, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I couldn't sleep and I went for a walk and

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<v Speaker 2>he goes, I didn't hear them. The cops announced themselves.

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<v Speaker 2>I just saw a blinding light. I was scared. The

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<v Speaker 2>bag was weighing me down. I had to go. They

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<v Speaker 2>accused the bag of having body parts, and the dude

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<v Speaker 2>is like what And then he's so grossed out by

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<v Speaker 2>the pictures and he's like, I don't know what you're pulling,

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<v Speaker 2>but this is not me okay, And then they're like,

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<v Speaker 2>then tell us.

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<v Speaker 3>What's in the bag. He goes, well, not body parts.

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<v Speaker 2>And then Munch and Craig and walk and talk and

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<v Speaker 2>it's like, so this guy, you know, it seems like

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<v Speaker 2>a burglary. They found the bag, there's two laptops and

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<v Speaker 2>some jewelry. So Sailor walks out to meet suspender Daddy

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<v Speaker 2>in the spy room and he's like, I don't think

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<v Speaker 2>the deaf dude did it, Like, you know, his past

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<v Speaker 2>crimes are weed and theft. Like he's not covered in blood.

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<v Speaker 2>I really don't think it. So like they just don't

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<v Speaker 2>think it was him. And then so Craigan orders to

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<v Speaker 2>give this guy up to burglary and then check out.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's check out the deaf community and see if any

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<v Speaker 2>of his enemies are missing. So lol on that, like,

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<v Speaker 2>he can only have enemies that are deaf, And so

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<v Speaker 2>the brainstorm meeting starts. Now why is she missing hand head?

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<v Speaker 2>But the man is fully intact. That's a good question.

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<v Speaker 2>Munch is like, maybe a cannibal, and Fin's like, shut

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<v Speaker 2>the fuck up. If it was a cannibal, they would

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<v Speaker 2>have used more fleshy parts of his body. And then

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<v Speaker 2>Craigan's like, enough, boys, I want facts, not theories. So

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<v Speaker 2>we have to go learn about the victims. Like, hopefully

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<v Speaker 2>that'll help us. So we go down to the emmy's

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<v Speaker 2>office and we have o'hallerin. He's cute, he's young, We

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<v Speaker 2>love him. The man that is dead is in his

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<v Speaker 2>mid fifties, the woman early forties. They both had deep

0:16:30.520 --> 0:16:33.760
<v Speaker 2>stab wounds in their stomach, and then the guy had

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<v Speaker 2>lipstick on his dick and sperm aside, so maybe they

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<v Speaker 2>were having sex, Like is it a rape?

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<v Speaker 3>Is it sex? Like?

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<v Speaker 2>What's going on? Is it an accident on purpose? Like

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<v Speaker 2>what's up? And then but the dude had a wedding

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<v Speaker 2>ring on, so Stabler's like, oh no, no, this is

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<v Speaker 2>married couples don't fucking parks like this.

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<v Speaker 3>Something's up here.

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<v Speaker 2>So Hallerin goes, yeah, but I don't think this woman's

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<v Speaker 2>a working girl. I've never met a working girl in

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<v Speaker 2>her forties without any cervical display, So maybe a mistress. Again,

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<v Speaker 2>they don't look like they party together, so what's gonna happen?

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<v Speaker 2>Like he had a point one seven blood alcohol and

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<v Speaker 2>she was clean. There's no print hits on him. But

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<v Speaker 2>he is a peace maker, a peacemaker. He's a pacemaker,

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<v Speaker 2>a pacemaker. So he because of the numbers and the pacemaker. Uh,

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<v Speaker 2>doctors have to keep records on all of their patients.

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<v Speaker 2>So off to the office. We go to Ruben's, the

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<v Speaker 2>office of Ned Rubin. You don't need to know. It's

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<v Speaker 2>an industries. I can't believe it. We go to a

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<v Speaker 2>place with the pacemakers. The guy, of course, is like privacy, privacy.

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<v Speaker 2>Finn and Munch are gonna like get him to talk.

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<v Speaker 2>They threaten him, so he goes. Okay, his name's Edward

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<v Speaker 2>Bugs and they have his wife in a little sweater

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<v Speaker 2>in woodroom blinds. She's very Midwest to me. He works

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<v Speaker 2>the night shift. But why was he in the park.

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<v Speaker 2>It doesn't make sense to her. He works at Randall's Island.

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<v Speaker 2>She doesn't know why he was drinking, like ed doesn't

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<v Speaker 2>drink anymore. She's either in denial or something's going on.

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<v Speaker 2>They ask if he's cheating on her, and she starts

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<v Speaker 2>to cry. It's like, okay, he's dead. Do you have

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<v Speaker 2>to bring this up right now?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>Were you also being cheated on by your dead husband?

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<v Speaker 2>Like they really have no tapped for special victims. Finn

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<v Speaker 2>Munched Craigan look onto Stabler and Benson with her, and

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<v Speaker 2>Finn is like, yeah, she did it.

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<v Speaker 3>She killed them.

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<v Speaker 2>Look at her acting and it's like this sad, sad woman,

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<v Speaker 2>she did not mastermind this murder, like she is not

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<v Speaker 2>an actress.

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<v Speaker 3>Finn is so off his game here.

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<v Speaker 2>It's crazy, this shaky woman no, and then Munch calls

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<v Speaker 2>her meek mindy, like she truly is not the killer Finn,

0:18:41.119 --> 0:18:43.520
<v Speaker 2>and Finn goes, she could have hired a hit man,

0:18:43.720 --> 0:18:45.920
<v Speaker 2>and it's like, oh yeah, it's still season three. He

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<v Speaker 2>hasn't learned yet and this isn't a narcotics So they

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<v Speaker 2>go to a bar where they think this guy was

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<v Speaker 2>drinking and the bartender remembers him he's had whiskey on

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<v Speaker 2>the rocks there every single night for the past two weeks.

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<v Speaker 2>And then Thursday though, he hooked up with a regular

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<v Speaker 2>whose name is Vinnie, and Vinnie a scum. So what

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<v Speaker 2>we find out about them is like they talk about women,

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<v Speaker 2>and they did leave together because something about ice cubes melting.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, she goes, I got to get back to work.

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<v Speaker 2>My ice cubes are melting, like so funny to me,

0:19:20.280 --> 0:19:24.040
<v Speaker 2>so like there's so much like extra ice to use,

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<v Speaker 2>you don't have to use those, Like how long could

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<v Speaker 2>they have possibly been talking that the ice cubes are melting.

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<v Speaker 2>It's it's a perfect bar seem so. Anyways, we meet Vinnie.

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<v Speaker 2>We have Vinnie and cement room bars. He's a scumbag.

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<v Speaker 2>We love this guy. He has a silk patterned top on.

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<v Speaker 2>He's a wise guy. Also familiar face. He's been in

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<v Speaker 2>four episodes of svo SO season one, Bad Blood, season nine, Savant,

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<v Speaker 2>and season fourteen Girl Dishonored, and he's been working on

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<v Speaker 2>stop since the eighties. He's been an oz Boardwalk Empire

0:19:56.280 --> 0:19:58.040
<v Speaker 2>and on Blue Bloods for two hundred and twenty three

0:19:58.080 --> 0:20:01.359
<v Speaker 2>episodes with small parts into twenty seven dresses, Wolf of

0:20:01.400 --> 0:20:02.719
<v Speaker 2>Wall Street and The Avengers.

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<v Speaker 3>Did I write his name down? I did not, but

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<v Speaker 3>it's him.

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<v Speaker 2>So he goes, screw you and Benson goes, I can

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<v Speaker 2>screw you harder.

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<v Speaker 3>How has that not been a gift?

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<v Speaker 2>That seems crazy, like for all the horny SVU maniacs

0:20:16.720 --> 0:20:20.680
<v Speaker 2>like for that not to be like, I can't believe

0:20:20.680 --> 0:20:21.480
<v Speaker 2>we've never seen that.

0:20:22.000 --> 0:20:23.240
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I was thinking that too.

0:20:23.280 --> 0:20:24.520
<v Speaker 1>I was like, why is that not up there with

0:20:24.560 --> 0:20:26.520
<v Speaker 1>the captain and the pickle or like I want your

0:20:26.560 --> 0:20:27.800
<v Speaker 1>balls in a blunder, But ain't like that.

0:20:28.280 --> 0:20:32.000
<v Speaker 2>It's just as good. Yeah, I can screw you harder.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay. So he's like, listen, me and this sad guy.

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<v Speaker 2>We just talked shit about bitches, and he especially talked

0:20:39.000 --> 0:20:42.480
<v Speaker 2>shit about his female ball busting boss. She fired him

0:20:42.480 --> 0:20:46.040
<v Speaker 2>two weeks ago for no reason. But he hadn't told

0:20:46.040 --> 0:20:47.920
<v Speaker 2>his wife yet about the firing. That's why he was

0:20:47.920 --> 0:20:50.000
<v Speaker 2>getting drunk and he was like building up the courage

0:20:50.000 --> 0:20:52.879
<v Speaker 2>to confess to his wife that night that you know,

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<v Speaker 2>that he has no job, and so Vinnie wanted to

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<v Speaker 2>go hunt for more women at another bar.

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<v Speaker 3>So this is where they split up.

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<v Speaker 2>So you know, it's like I gotta go talk to

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<v Speaker 2>my wife, and Vinnie's like, I'm gonna go to try

0:21:04.359 --> 0:21:07.479
<v Speaker 2>to get fucked, and you know, nature called.

0:21:07.760 --> 0:21:09.720
<v Speaker 3>He goes to pee in Riverside Park.

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<v Speaker 2>Vinnie got a cab and you know, it was like

0:21:12.560 --> 0:21:14.800
<v Speaker 2>peace out, go have fun peeing. So now we're back

0:21:14.840 --> 0:21:17.000
<v Speaker 2>at the scene of the crime and Finn finds blood

0:21:17.080 --> 0:21:19.879
<v Speaker 2>on a tree. And they did find bark in his

0:21:19.960 --> 0:21:23.160
<v Speaker 2>forehead earlier, so he was probably peeing at this tree

0:21:23.800 --> 0:21:27.600
<v Speaker 2>while right near him. In a fucking wild turn of events,

0:21:27.600 --> 0:21:30.040
<v Speaker 2>someone was killing and positioning the dead woman, and so

0:21:30.080 --> 0:21:32.600
<v Speaker 2>they had nothing to do, and then Munch goes, okay,

0:21:32.680 --> 0:21:36.160
<v Speaker 2>let's do a urine analysis stat So they're gonna check

0:21:36.200 --> 0:21:38.840
<v Speaker 2>the piss on the tree. But like, I can't even

0:21:38.840 --> 0:21:41.280
<v Speaker 2>imagine going to like pee drunken and then there's a

0:21:41.280 --> 0:21:43.919
<v Speaker 2>crime scene and now you're dead. So he had no

0:21:43.960 --> 0:21:47.920
<v Speaker 2>connection to this woman at all. But it also explains

0:21:47.920 --> 0:21:50.840
<v Speaker 2>why his pants were open as well, and the lipstick

0:21:50.880 --> 0:21:52.800
<v Speaker 2>on the dick obviously staged.

0:21:52.920 --> 0:21:58.719
<v Speaker 1>But like, did the killer do that? Like, yeah, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>I guess he did cap there's a d capitation. I

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<v Speaker 1>guess you could have done it with like the dead.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh oh no, sorry sorry, yeah, no, you're right though.

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<v Speaker 1>That does make a lot more logistical sense.

0:22:12.240 --> 0:22:14.879
<v Speaker 2>But Benson gets a call at this moment and a

0:22:14.920 --> 0:22:17.520
<v Speaker 2>sewer worker in Brooklyn found the remains of a hand.

0:22:18.400 --> 0:22:20.040
<v Speaker 3>It could be her hand. So now we have a

0:22:20.040 --> 0:22:21.040
<v Speaker 3>close up of the hand.

0:22:21.160 --> 0:22:25.000
<v Speaker 2>I'm not happy, and it's Daniel Sunjatas So we have

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<v Speaker 2>another sexy emmy.

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<v Speaker 3>I can't believe how lucky we are.

0:22:28.080 --> 0:22:32.439
<v Speaker 2>And Okay, so he with tweezers takes off like the

0:22:32.520 --> 0:22:35.800
<v Speaker 2>skin thumb print, but he needs to put the thin

0:22:36.080 --> 0:22:40.439
<v Speaker 2>skin thumb skin on Benson's thumb to get a good print,

0:22:40.560 --> 0:22:43.520
<v Speaker 2>because you can't just you know, take a floppy skin

0:22:43.560 --> 0:22:46.600
<v Speaker 2>off a dead thing. And also like rats were biting

0:22:46.600 --> 0:22:49.960
<v Speaker 2>on the hand. It really is upsetting. So she puts

0:22:49.960 --> 0:22:52.080
<v Speaker 2>on a latex love and the thumb skin prints it

0:22:52.119 --> 0:22:53.920
<v Speaker 2>down and hopefully there's a hit of some sort.

0:22:54.280 --> 0:22:56.359
<v Speaker 3>She does not look happy. She looks like she's about

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<v Speaker 3>to throw up.

0:22:58.119 --> 0:23:03.040
<v Speaker 2>No, and the the like, hand is this color kind

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<v Speaker 2>of looks like the Brann Stoker's Dracula skin color, Like

0:23:06.840 --> 0:23:11.639
<v Speaker 2>it is whiteish, grayish, it's been underwater. It's not good.

0:23:12.240 --> 0:23:18.159
<v Speaker 2>Yeah of the undead. Yeah, like anyway, So Vicky, Vicky

0:23:18.280 --> 0:23:22.160
<v Speaker 2>Vinnie walks through the precinct and yells past the Polly.

0:23:22.600 --> 0:23:24.679
<v Speaker 3>I love him, like truly, I wish I met him

0:23:24.680 --> 0:23:26.400
<v Speaker 3>out that night. I love this guy.

0:23:27.119 --> 0:23:30.040
<v Speaker 2>And Craigan walks in and goes hit on the thumb

0:23:30.119 --> 0:23:34.639
<v Speaker 2>print and Sally. It's special Agent Pam Tilden who works

0:23:34.640 --> 0:23:39.240
<v Speaker 2>at the MFPCA, the Dog Police. She investigated people who

0:23:39.240 --> 0:23:42.480
<v Speaker 2>fucked with animals and they do end up being your

0:23:42.720 --> 0:23:45.600
<v Speaker 2>future wife beaters, child abusers, and serial killers. So it

0:23:45.640 --> 0:23:49.040
<v Speaker 2>makes sense to invest and investigate and actually make true.

0:23:49.200 --> 0:23:53.280
<v Speaker 2>I think, like peeping Tom, anything that leads to bigger

0:23:53.280 --> 0:23:57.680
<v Speaker 2>crimes should be treated super seriously. Yeah, if we're talking prevention,

0:23:57.760 --> 0:24:00.960
<v Speaker 2>if cops want to pretend that they're at prevention, which

0:24:01.000 --> 0:24:03.720
<v Speaker 2>they don't even pretend anymore. So they go to the

0:24:03.760 --> 0:24:06.480
<v Speaker 2>dog cops and this dude is like, damn, she might

0:24:06.520 --> 0:24:09.720
<v Speaker 2>have known her killer fuck, but we've learned that she

0:24:09.800 --> 0:24:10.760
<v Speaker 2>was married to the job.

0:24:10.840 --> 0:24:12.960
<v Speaker 3>All about work. You know, she worked really hard.

0:24:13.680 --> 0:24:17.919
<v Speaker 2>And in this office there's snakes and iguanas, and you know,

0:24:17.960 --> 0:24:20.280
<v Speaker 2>we want to see the cases to see if there's enemies.

0:24:20.280 --> 0:24:22.399
<v Speaker 2>And they're going through the files in the office. There

0:24:22.480 --> 0:24:25.440
<v Speaker 2>was a dog fighting ring she helped break up, so

0:24:25.760 --> 0:24:27.960
<v Speaker 2>and she took a bunch of pit bulls away and

0:24:28.440 --> 0:24:31.320
<v Speaker 2>then the kennel was vandalized. So they go back to

0:24:31.359 --> 0:24:34.720
<v Speaker 2>the MFPCA office and they're like, dude, like to the

0:24:34.720 --> 0:24:37.320
<v Speaker 2>guy they talked to earlier, like why wouldn't you tell

0:24:37.400 --> 0:24:40.679
<v Speaker 2>us about the vandalizing, like your girl's dead, and he goes, well,

0:24:40.720 --> 0:24:42.800
<v Speaker 2>it was an isolated incident months ago, like I didn't

0:24:42.800 --> 0:24:43.359
<v Speaker 2>put it together.

0:24:43.400 --> 0:24:45.200
<v Speaker 3>And it's like, and you're a cop, okay. Perfect.

0:24:46.359 --> 0:24:49.320
<v Speaker 2>Benson pets a dog and calls him pooch, which I

0:24:49.320 --> 0:24:50.440
<v Speaker 2>don't really hear that a lot.

0:24:50.600 --> 0:24:51.800
<v Speaker 3>It was really cute.

0:24:51.960 --> 0:24:54.680
<v Speaker 2>And then there's another man that shows up and he's

0:24:54.760 --> 0:24:56.879
<v Speaker 2>kind of hot, I would say. And the hawkey said

0:24:57.320 --> 0:24:59.920
<v Speaker 2>that she would not go to the park after dark

0:25:00.080 --> 0:25:02.040
<v Speaker 2>unless she thought there was a hurt animal in there,

0:25:02.200 --> 0:25:05.960
<v Speaker 2>and that like she she's not playing hopscotch.

0:25:06.000 --> 0:25:07.440
<v Speaker 3>It's all about the animals for her.

0:25:07.880 --> 0:25:10.119
<v Speaker 2>So they talked to this guy now and they're like,

0:25:10.200 --> 0:25:12.840
<v Speaker 2>anybody causing her trouble and he goes, yeah, this one

0:25:12.960 --> 0:25:15.399
<v Speaker 2>kid does. And they go to a cage or a

0:25:15.440 --> 0:25:18.159
<v Speaker 2>cat name's Slinky and there's a bandage on her tail.

0:25:18.640 --> 0:25:21.480
<v Speaker 2>He poured paint thinner on the tail and set it

0:25:21.520 --> 0:25:25.000
<v Speaker 2>on fire. So and then this this teen who did

0:25:25.000 --> 0:25:27.520
<v Speaker 2>the paint thinner on the cat is fifteen or sixteen

0:25:27.600 --> 0:25:31.080
<v Speaker 2>years old, and he would always cuss out this Tilden woman.

0:25:31.480 --> 0:25:34.520
<v Speaker 2>And he was there part of a punishment because yeah,

0:25:34.600 --> 0:25:37.280
<v Speaker 2>he fucks with animals. So he got ten sessions in

0:25:37.359 --> 0:25:42.280
<v Speaker 2>their unit to work with the shrink at the animal place.

0:25:42.359 --> 0:25:44.359
<v Speaker 2>So they go talk to this therapist. Let's see what

0:25:44.400 --> 0:25:49.960
<v Speaker 2>she's going to give us. So they did this program

0:25:50.000 --> 0:25:51.920
<v Speaker 2>because there's, like I said, there's not much punishment for

0:25:51.960 --> 0:25:55.639
<v Speaker 2>animal abuse. It's a misdemeanor, and so they're thinking like

0:25:55.720 --> 0:25:57.919
<v Speaker 2>maybe this therapy program is what we can do to

0:25:58.000 --> 0:25:59.120
<v Speaker 2>actually make a difference.

0:26:00.080 --> 0:26:01.600
<v Speaker 3>The teen's name is Harry Baker.

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<v Speaker 2>He's a cat torture and she said if he did

0:26:05.720 --> 0:26:08.639
<v Speaker 2>any direct threats like that, she would have reported it asap.

0:26:08.880 --> 0:26:11.000
<v Speaker 2>And Siebler goes, well, what do you mean direct threats?

0:26:11.040 --> 0:26:13.920
<v Speaker 2>And she's like, listen. He's an aggressive, angry boy who

0:26:13.960 --> 0:26:17.200
<v Speaker 2>had a positive talk screen of at birth for cocaine.

0:26:17.720 --> 0:26:19.760
<v Speaker 2>So and then his mom was a stripper and would

0:26:19.760 --> 0:26:21.720
<v Speaker 2>bring him to the to work all the time, so

0:26:21.760 --> 0:26:24.080
<v Speaker 2>he grew up at the strip club. She couldn't afford daycare.

0:26:24.400 --> 0:26:26.640
<v Speaker 2>He was born with cocaine a system, so he's got

0:26:26.640 --> 0:26:30.120
<v Speaker 2>some issues. But also he's in the gifted program, very

0:26:30.200 --> 0:26:33.040
<v Speaker 2>smart and he has a lot of potential, but for

0:26:33.119 --> 0:26:36.920
<v Speaker 2>now he's very predatory. So we get a little Cabot action.

0:26:37.359 --> 0:26:40.200
<v Speaker 2>She drops a file on Benson's desk where Benson's hard

0:26:40.200 --> 0:26:42.359
<v Speaker 2>at work, and Cabot says, you can thank me later,

0:26:42.440 --> 0:26:45.720
<v Speaker 2>but here's Harry Baker's file, and Benson wants more in

0:26:45.800 --> 0:26:48.040
<v Speaker 2>Cabot's like, okay, on a juvie, You're lucky you have

0:26:48.160 --> 0:26:50.840
<v Speaker 2>what I gave you. But we get a little more

0:26:50.880 --> 0:26:54.359
<v Speaker 2>insight on Pam and Harry's relationship because we find out

0:26:54.480 --> 0:26:59.280
<v Speaker 2>that she like based on her filings, like the probation

0:26:59.400 --> 0:27:03.119
<v Speaker 2>officer quested intense supervision on him, and it was because

0:27:03.200 --> 0:27:07.320
<v Speaker 2>Agent Tilden had suspicion of numerous I can't even unadjudicated

0:27:07.359 --> 0:27:10.600
<v Speaker 2>prior offenses. So and Bensa goes, well what are those?

0:27:10.600 --> 0:27:14.160
<v Speaker 2>And Cabots, like Lord knows, Benson tells Habit to get

0:27:14.200 --> 0:27:16.439
<v Speaker 2>more info. So we're in a walk and talk in

0:27:16.480 --> 0:27:19.240
<v Speaker 2>the middle of the marble courthouse hallways and she is

0:27:19.280 --> 0:27:21.480
<v Speaker 2>a busy bee and like she like, so she goes

0:27:21.520 --> 0:27:22.720
<v Speaker 2>to this woman to try to talk to her, and

0:27:22.760 --> 0:27:24.639
<v Speaker 2>immediately the woman goes, what do you want? Like, I know,

0:27:24.720 --> 0:27:27.240
<v Speaker 2>you're not just talking to me. So this woman that

0:27:27.280 --> 0:27:30.440
<v Speaker 2>Cabot wants a favor like information from goes listen. Usually

0:27:30.480 --> 0:27:32.600
<v Speaker 2>with these juvenile cases, it's a cry for help and

0:27:32.640 --> 0:27:35.159
<v Speaker 2>the kid is being abused, but I found nothing like

0:27:35.200 --> 0:27:38.359
<v Speaker 2>that with Harry. Actually, we just found dozens more dead

0:27:38.400 --> 0:27:41.480
<v Speaker 2>and mutilated animals, but they couldn't really connect him to

0:27:41.560 --> 0:27:44.720
<v Speaker 2>any of it. And the closest they got was this

0:27:44.800 --> 0:27:48.040
<v Speaker 2>girl who he had the hots for who said no,

0:27:48.160 --> 0:27:50.879
<v Speaker 2>thank you. And so then one day she's at the deli,

0:27:51.119 --> 0:27:53.000
<v Speaker 2>you know, her dog's tied up outside, and then the

0:27:53.040 --> 0:27:55.720
<v Speaker 2>next second her dog is gone, and then it was

0:27:56.040 --> 0:28:00.680
<v Speaker 2>decapitated on her stoop the next day. So Cabot's like eek.

0:28:01.600 --> 0:28:03.919
<v Speaker 2>And then we go to Harry's mom's house. So her

0:28:04.000 --> 0:28:07.440
<v Speaker 2>name is Daisy. We're at West ninety eighth Street, and

0:28:07.480 --> 0:28:10.439
<v Speaker 2>then they're like, where was your son Thursday night? And

0:28:10.440 --> 0:28:12.040
<v Speaker 2>she goes, oh, he's a dork, like reading in his

0:28:12.119 --> 0:28:15.040
<v Speaker 2>room like always. And she goes that I had company,

0:28:15.520 --> 0:28:17.399
<v Speaker 2>and so she sleeps on a pull out couch in

0:28:17.400 --> 0:28:20.080
<v Speaker 2>the living room and Harry's room is just right there

0:28:20.119 --> 0:28:22.280
<v Speaker 2>with a beaded curtain, and it's like, if you're gonna

0:28:22.320 --> 0:28:25.080
<v Speaker 2>fuck in the living room, give your son a real door,

0:28:25.680 --> 0:28:27.439
<v Speaker 2>you know what I mean. I so it's just like

0:28:27.560 --> 0:28:30.360
<v Speaker 2>beaded vibes. He's just like listening to his mom fuck

0:28:30.440 --> 0:28:32.280
<v Speaker 2>like no wonder. He's like, you know, putting paints in

0:28:32.320 --> 0:28:36.360
<v Speaker 2>her own cattails. They ask about his history killing animals

0:28:36.400 --> 0:28:39.360
<v Speaker 2>and she says, oh, he would never do that, boy mom.

0:28:39.720 --> 0:28:45.280
<v Speaker 2>And she's in she's in a red bra and ready

0:28:45.280 --> 0:28:48.360
<v Speaker 2>to clown and she thinks all the stuff is lies,

0:28:48.360 --> 0:28:50.680
<v Speaker 2>and everyone's jealous of her son because he's so smart

0:28:50.680 --> 0:28:51.960
<v Speaker 2>and he's just misunderstood.

0:28:52.360 --> 0:28:53.480
<v Speaker 3>And then she brags.

0:28:53.600 --> 0:28:56.239
<v Speaker 2>She goes, he is so good at science, he's the

0:28:56.280 --> 0:28:59.640
<v Speaker 2>best frog he's so good at frog dissection skills. And

0:28:59.640 --> 0:29:01.160
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, I don't know if this is what you

0:29:01.160 --> 0:29:04.520
<v Speaker 2>brag about when they're investigating him for animal abuse, for like,

0:29:04.680 --> 0:29:07.160
<v Speaker 2>he's really good at dissecting frogs. And she goes, but

0:29:07.200 --> 0:29:09.880
<v Speaker 2>he's just really curious about all the anatomy and stuff.

0:29:10.200 --> 0:29:12.160
<v Speaker 2>So they asked to look in his room and she goes, oh,

0:29:12.200 --> 0:29:14.280
<v Speaker 2>he has nothing to hide, go on in there, and

0:29:14.320 --> 0:29:16.400
<v Speaker 2>she goes into the bathroom like she won't even watch them.

0:29:16.760 --> 0:29:20.280
<v Speaker 2>This room is crazy. It is covered in newspapers everywhere,

0:29:20.320 --> 0:29:22.720
<v Speaker 2>all crime, So for the mom to say there's nothing

0:29:22.720 --> 0:29:26.120
<v Speaker 2>to hide is truly insane. This room is covered in

0:29:26.200 --> 0:29:31.240
<v Speaker 2>newspapers as wallpaper, all crime and murder stories, like red

0:29:31.440 --> 0:29:34.520
<v Speaker 2>paint looking like blood. And there's a fire escape right

0:29:34.560 --> 0:29:36.960
<v Speaker 2>outside his window so he can sneak out whenever he wants.

0:29:37.000 --> 0:29:39.120
<v Speaker 2>And then every single book on his shelf is a

0:29:39.120 --> 0:29:44.520
<v Speaker 2>crime book or about police procedure, or about a serial killer. Yikes,

0:29:44.600 --> 0:29:47.760
<v Speaker 2>and then Michael Pitt walks in and he has like

0:29:47.800 --> 0:29:52.200
<v Speaker 2>a Nick Carter boy band hair blonde situation. He's famous

0:29:52.200 --> 0:29:55.000
<v Speaker 2>for a Murder by the Numbers and if it wasn't

0:29:55.000 --> 0:29:56.800
<v Speaker 2>for Leonardo DiCaprio, I think he would have had a

0:29:56.840 --> 0:29:58.720
<v Speaker 2>better career because he is hot and good.

0:29:59.200 --> 0:30:00.680
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, he was this movie.

0:30:00.720 --> 0:30:03.400
<v Speaker 1>When I was living in Italy in two thousand and three,

0:30:03.720 --> 0:30:05.800
<v Speaker 1>we had to just go see movies that were available

0:30:05.800 --> 0:30:07.600
<v Speaker 1>in English, and like, there weren't that many. So I

0:30:07.640 --> 0:30:09.960
<v Speaker 1>went to go see this movie called The Dreamers. Have

0:30:10.000 --> 0:30:12.200
<v Speaker 1>you ever heard of this movie? Yeah, I was pretty

0:30:12.240 --> 0:30:16.040
<v Speaker 1>famous and sexy. Oh okay, yeah, and I was like, oh,

0:30:16.080 --> 0:30:18.120
<v Speaker 1>like it was like so it was like he meets

0:30:18.120 --> 0:30:20.440
<v Speaker 1>a brother and sister and they like just threesome it

0:30:20.520 --> 0:30:22.480
<v Speaker 1>up all over the place. I just hadn't really seen

0:30:22.520 --> 0:30:24.640
<v Speaker 1>a big movie like that before with so much incest,

0:30:24.680 --> 0:30:27.400
<v Speaker 1>even though I wasn't a SVU watcher the big screen,

0:30:27.520 --> 0:30:32.080
<v Speaker 1>you know. But yes, totally, he had such a Leo vibe.

0:30:32.480 --> 0:30:35.120
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, go to run in Boardwalk Empire. That makes

0:30:35.120 --> 0:30:39.640
<v Speaker 1>me happy. Twenty four episodes. Okay, he's like it still working,

0:30:40.080 --> 0:30:41.200
<v Speaker 1>I feel it is.

0:30:41.560 --> 0:30:44.600
<v Speaker 3>But nothing like what you would Oh. He was in bully.

0:30:44.920 --> 0:30:48.240
<v Speaker 3>I forgot that. Oh Dawson's Creek.

0:30:49.240 --> 0:30:51.120
<v Speaker 2>I don't know. He's just like so hot. I guess

0:30:51.160 --> 0:30:53.000
<v Speaker 2>to me, it's just murdered by the numbers and SVU.

0:30:53.760 --> 0:30:56.479
<v Speaker 2>Oh funny games. I was like too scared to watch it.

0:30:56.600 --> 0:30:58.600
<v Speaker 2>I want to watch it, but it's so scary. It's

0:30:58.640 --> 0:31:04.600
<v Speaker 2>like he kidnaps like two psychomen take a family hostage. Yes,

0:31:05.880 --> 0:31:10.400
<v Speaker 2>watch so scary, so scary. The trailer alone was scary

0:31:10.480 --> 0:31:13.600
<v Speaker 2>enough for me. Maybe I'll really push myself. Oh my god,

0:31:13.840 --> 0:31:15.600
<v Speaker 2>I'm on its page and it says Tim Roth. He

0:31:15.680 --> 0:31:18.520
<v Speaker 2>said making this film traumatized him and he'll never watch it.

0:31:18.880 --> 0:31:22.240
<v Speaker 2>He said he was particularly disturbed because one of the

0:31:22.360 --> 0:31:23.800
<v Speaker 2>guys resembled his own son.

0:31:25.800 --> 0:31:28.800
<v Speaker 1>Oh oh god, Yeah, that's the scary one, because that

0:31:28.840 --> 0:31:31.960
<v Speaker 1>one's like kind of like this one Martyrs that Jared

0:31:32.000 --> 0:31:33.240
<v Speaker 1>almost fainted when he watched it.

0:31:33.240 --> 0:31:34.520
<v Speaker 3>He stood up and he almost fainted.

0:31:34.920 --> 0:31:37.000
<v Speaker 1>It's this movie called Martyrs that's also like a home

0:31:37.040 --> 0:31:39.920
<v Speaker 1>invasion that's like supposed to be really really Also, Michael Pitt,

0:31:39.960 --> 0:31:42.520
<v Speaker 1>if anybody watched Hannibal, which I watched, that show was

0:31:42.560 --> 0:31:44.880
<v Speaker 1>so fucking unhinged, but I watched all of it. He

0:31:44.960 --> 0:31:48.440
<v Speaker 1>plays this insane character named Mason Verger Michael Pitt does.

0:31:48.480 --> 0:31:49.480
<v Speaker 3>That's the last thing I've seen.

0:31:49.560 --> 0:31:52.320
<v Speaker 2>So yeah, he does play psychos, but like, yeah, that

0:31:52.440 --> 0:31:54.200
<v Speaker 2>are pained, you know, I don't know.

0:31:54.360 --> 0:31:57.520
<v Speaker 3>Yes, yes, tortured psychos.

0:31:57.560 --> 0:32:02.120
<v Speaker 1>Tortured psychos on his resume as special skills.

0:32:02.720 --> 0:32:07.240
<v Speaker 3>Fucked with his face though, oh maybe, I mean yeah.

0:32:07.080 --> 0:32:10.600
<v Speaker 2>I wonder if he can only play this kind of psycho,

0:32:10.680 --> 0:32:13.959
<v Speaker 2>Like I wonder if you know it is Leonardo DiCaprio.

0:32:14.320 --> 0:32:16.520
<v Speaker 3>Oh wow, he was headwig crazy.

0:32:16.840 --> 0:32:20.160
<v Speaker 1>He also is just really good, like so scary, Like

0:32:20.360 --> 0:32:21.800
<v Speaker 1>I don't know, I don't know if you can come

0:32:21.840 --> 0:32:24.000
<v Speaker 1>back to be like a romantic lead when you've been

0:32:24.040 --> 0:32:26.840
<v Speaker 1>this like scary scary guy.

0:32:27.240 --> 0:32:31.040
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, there's something more menacing than Leonardo DiCaprio. Yeah, yeah,

0:32:31.080 --> 0:32:35.000
<v Speaker 2>but whatever. He walks in as they're searching his creepy

0:32:35.000 --> 0:32:38.200
<v Speaker 2>little room. Then the mom went, He's got nothing to hide, truly,

0:32:38.280 --> 0:32:40.080
<v Speaker 2>not one, not murder.

0:32:39.760 --> 0:32:42.760
<v Speaker 1>Thing, like like a murder layer.

0:32:42.520 --> 0:32:46.760
<v Speaker 2>So clueless. Even if it wasn't articles about murder and

0:32:46.960 --> 0:32:49.720
<v Speaker 2>just newspaper lining the walls, I'd be like, I'm gonna

0:32:49.720 --> 0:32:51.960
<v Speaker 2>bring my son for a test, you know, I'd be

0:32:52.000 --> 0:32:55.640
<v Speaker 2>like I'm a little worried about what's going on here. Yeah,

0:32:55.680 --> 0:32:58.640
<v Speaker 2>but he goes, hey, guys looking for something and then

0:32:58.680 --> 0:33:01.440
<v Speaker 2>they go, yeah, babe, we have some questions. He goes, oh,

0:33:01.560 --> 0:33:03.640
<v Speaker 2>is this about Pam. It really sucks. You know, we

0:33:03.640 --> 0:33:07.040
<v Speaker 2>were kind of tight. He's like, Pam was cool and

0:33:07.200 --> 0:33:09.959
<v Speaker 2>her death was so whack, but they never published all

0:33:09.960 --> 0:33:12.560
<v Speaker 2>the details. Can you give me some and Benson goes, no,

0:33:12.840 --> 0:33:15.280
<v Speaker 2>can you? And he goes in his street clothes onto

0:33:15.280 --> 0:33:17.440
<v Speaker 2>his bed. If we needed any more evidence that this

0:33:17.520 --> 0:33:20.440
<v Speaker 2>is a psychopath, and then they go it seems like

0:33:20.480 --> 0:33:23.440
<v Speaker 2>your interests are weird, you know, kind of dark, and

0:33:23.480 --> 0:33:25.880
<v Speaker 2>he goes, yeah, my therapist agrees with you that I

0:33:25.920 --> 0:33:29.240
<v Speaker 2>have an aggressive view of the world and a predatory drive,

0:33:30.120 --> 0:33:32.200
<v Speaker 2>and if I don't get it together, I could wind

0:33:32.280 --> 0:33:33.680
<v Speaker 2>up a cop.

0:33:34.600 --> 0:33:37.560
<v Speaker 3>He's funny, Okay, So so.

0:33:37.440 --> 0:33:40.400
<v Speaker 2>Then they ask about Carrie, the girl with the missing

0:33:40.440 --> 0:33:43.840
<v Speaker 2>dog that was found to capitate it, and he says, yeah,

0:33:43.880 --> 0:33:46.360
<v Speaker 2>she was mad. I broke her heart and they go

0:33:46.520 --> 0:33:49.040
<v Speaker 2>what by killing her dog? And he goes, no, no, no,

0:33:49.360 --> 0:33:52.160
<v Speaker 2>I don't mean to sound egotistical, but I drive the

0:33:52.200 --> 0:33:55.200
<v Speaker 2>girl is a little crazy. He's very calm, he's very cocky,

0:33:55.480 --> 0:33:58.480
<v Speaker 2>and they go talk to Carrie. She's working at a

0:33:58.480 --> 0:34:02.680
<v Speaker 2>pizza restaurant. She's making pizzays. She says he was creepy

0:34:02.880 --> 0:34:05.120
<v Speaker 2>and is horrible and like wouldn't stop.

0:34:05.000 --> 0:34:06.520
<v Speaker 3>Calling her and following her around.

0:34:07.160 --> 0:34:10.360
<v Speaker 2>And he's like he would say that he dreamed that

0:34:10.360 --> 0:34:13.439
<v Speaker 2>they would die in a car crash together, and there's

0:34:13.480 --> 0:34:16.080
<v Speaker 2>all these letters and she did tell the cops, but

0:34:16.280 --> 0:34:18.759
<v Speaker 2>he puts on the charm and that was that and

0:34:18.920 --> 0:34:20.960
<v Speaker 2>suddenly she's the nutcase in school.

0:34:21.440 --> 0:34:23.440
<v Speaker 3>And her friends were also like, girl, he's cute. What's

0:34:23.480 --> 0:34:24.080
<v Speaker 3>the problem.

0:34:24.640 --> 0:34:26.200
<v Speaker 2>And Munch and Finn are like, well, we need to

0:34:26.200 --> 0:34:27.959
<v Speaker 2>get him off the street, but we need your help,

0:34:27.960 --> 0:34:30.000
<v Speaker 2>and she goes, oh, you don't get it. All I

0:34:30.040 --> 0:34:31.719
<v Speaker 2>did was turn him down for a date and he

0:34:31.800 --> 0:34:35.200
<v Speaker 2>killed my dog. I'm not messing with Harry. Thank you bye.

0:34:35.239 --> 0:34:38.440
<v Speaker 2>Can I please work my minimum wage job the fuck

0:34:38.520 --> 0:34:41.160
<v Speaker 2>out of here. Finn is like, is there anyone that

0:34:41.200 --> 0:34:43.719
<v Speaker 2>could help us? And so we wud go off to

0:34:43.840 --> 0:34:47.200
<v Speaker 2>Andrew Johnson High School. In the bathroom, they're looking for

0:34:47.280 --> 0:34:50.160
<v Speaker 2>someone named Philip who's hiding in the bathroom like scary

0:34:50.160 --> 0:34:52.200
<v Speaker 2>movie style, you know what I mean, like the standing

0:34:52.280 --> 0:34:56.680
<v Speaker 2>on a toilet and he's huffing cooking. So okay, he's huffing,

0:34:57.000 --> 0:34:59.440
<v Speaker 2>cooking spray like rolls out of a stall. He's in

0:34:59.440 --> 0:35:03.720
<v Speaker 2>the flan and he goes, we don't hang out anymore.

0:35:03.800 --> 0:35:06.600
<v Speaker 2>That guy's obsessed with death, and you know, he's.

0:35:06.400 --> 0:35:07.799
<v Speaker 1>Like, I just want to huff in peace, and he

0:35:07.880 --> 0:35:09.480
<v Speaker 1>just keeps talking about murdering pets.

0:35:13.239 --> 0:35:15.120
<v Speaker 2>He goes, yeah, I don't. I don't like cats either,

0:35:15.200 --> 0:35:18.040
<v Speaker 2>But that guy what a super freak. They threatened to

0:35:18.080 --> 0:35:20.640
<v Speaker 2>tell on him for huffing. So he spills the beans

0:35:20.640 --> 0:35:23.839
<v Speaker 2>on Harry's special little hiding spot. So they are off

0:35:23.920 --> 0:35:26.359
<v Speaker 2>in Central Park and I wonder how close this is

0:35:26.400 --> 0:35:32.440
<v Speaker 2>to Cynthia Nixon's character's spider dwelling that she hunts hunts in.

0:35:33.400 --> 0:35:36.440
<v Speaker 2>But so he likes to be alone with his collection

0:35:36.680 --> 0:35:40.680
<v Speaker 2>of skulls and stuff. So he's been slicing and dicing

0:35:40.719 --> 0:35:43.360
<v Speaker 2>free things for years. So we got to find this stuff.

0:35:43.600 --> 0:35:46.680
<v Speaker 2>And it's a big park crew. Everyone's searching. Craigan and

0:35:46.760 --> 0:35:50.760
<v Speaker 2>Huang are having a beautiful you know, it's bare trees,

0:35:50.800 --> 0:35:53.640
<v Speaker 2>but still exciting walking down a hill of the park

0:35:53.680 --> 0:35:56.480
<v Speaker 2>and Huang gives his low down, so he goes sadistic

0:35:56.560 --> 0:36:00.279
<v Speaker 2>sociopath likes to take his time, draws, you know, raws

0:36:00.320 --> 0:36:03.399
<v Speaker 2>out the pain. Likes control and domination. And then during

0:36:03.400 --> 0:36:06.840
<v Speaker 2>the torture there's like no empathy and afterward no remorse.

0:36:07.640 --> 0:36:10.120
<v Speaker 2>And then they find a cooler buried. They opened it

0:36:10.160 --> 0:36:13.000
<v Speaker 2>and there's just tons of animal skulls, about a dozen

0:36:13.080 --> 0:36:16.200
<v Speaker 2>small animals and a knife. So we find a big

0:36:16.280 --> 0:36:19.160
<v Speaker 2>hunting knife. We get it to the lab immediately. Michael

0:36:19.239 --> 0:36:21.319
<v Speaker 2>Pitt is in cement room bars with his mom, who's

0:36:21.320 --> 0:36:24.520
<v Speaker 2>wearing a going out top, and he is still thinking

0:36:24.560 --> 0:36:26.959
<v Speaker 2>this is a joke and they're and you know.

0:36:27.120 --> 0:36:30.200
<v Speaker 1>Lol, they think I murdered two people. That's why we're here, mom,

0:36:30.760 --> 0:36:32.799
<v Speaker 1>And the mom is like, he gets straight, A's it's

0:36:32.920 --> 0:36:33.399
<v Speaker 1>not him.

0:36:33.840 --> 0:36:36.319
<v Speaker 2>And they show the animal skull collection photos to her

0:36:36.360 --> 0:36:38.920
<v Speaker 2>and she gets a little loud and Harry goes sh

0:36:39.280 --> 0:36:42.759
<v Speaker 2>and then outlines police tactics and like what they're gonna do,

0:36:42.840 --> 0:36:45.960
<v Speaker 2>and he's just very smug. He also has a sheepskin

0:36:46.040 --> 0:36:48.320
<v Speaker 2>fur lined coat, and I wonder if Stabler's like, damn,

0:36:48.320 --> 0:36:50.600
<v Speaker 2>that's a nice coat. We got a book him so

0:36:50.640 --> 0:36:53.400
<v Speaker 2>I can take it. And then he does a monologue

0:36:53.440 --> 0:36:57.160
<v Speaker 2>about all the great killers and their mos and their

0:36:57.160 --> 0:37:01.680
<v Speaker 2>path to infamy. He talks about shooters. There's just a

0:37:01.680 --> 0:37:04.920
<v Speaker 2>lot of monologues, and the mom screams. She's like stop it,

0:37:05.480 --> 0:37:07.719
<v Speaker 2>and he snickers at her, and Cabot and Huang are

0:37:07.760 --> 0:37:10.000
<v Speaker 2>watching in the spy window, and she says, damn, that's

0:37:10.040 --> 0:37:12.520
<v Speaker 2>one cold kid, and then the mom needs a break,

0:37:12.600 --> 0:37:15.759
<v Speaker 2>so Benson walks her out and she waved her sons

0:37:15.760 --> 0:37:20.600
<v Speaker 2>and Miranda rights. Okay, that's weird, And in my head,

0:37:20.800 --> 0:37:23.200
<v Speaker 2>I would like a T shirt that says Miranda Rights,

0:37:23.760 --> 0:37:27.480
<v Speaker 2>but with a drawing of like Miranda from her episode

0:37:27.600 --> 0:37:30.040
<v Speaker 2>alternate with face.

0:37:30.280 --> 0:37:32.799
<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, yes, her with her little pigtails, and

0:37:32.840 --> 0:37:34.520
<v Speaker 1>then it just says Miranda Rights.

0:37:35.160 --> 0:37:38.880
<v Speaker 2>I wish for all all of the alter egos in

0:37:38.920 --> 0:37:39.799
<v Speaker 2>that episode.

0:37:39.880 --> 0:37:42.919
<v Speaker 3>But it's funny. It's called Miranda Rights. It's kind of fun.

0:37:42.960 --> 0:37:44.279
<v Speaker 2>And I don't know why there hasn't been a sex

0:37:44.280 --> 0:37:48.279
<v Speaker 2>in the City crossover, So get it together. Benson to

0:37:48.400 --> 0:37:50.600
<v Speaker 2>Cabot and Craigan, and Huang is like, fuck, this kid

0:37:50.640 --> 0:37:52.520
<v Speaker 2>knows all of the tricks, so he is doing a

0:37:52.520 --> 0:37:54.799
<v Speaker 2>good job. Even Benson's like, okay, he does know what

0:37:54.800 --> 0:37:57.319
<v Speaker 2>we're up to. So Huang gets an idea. He's like

0:37:57.400 --> 0:37:59.960
<v Speaker 2>his ego is huge, so like get him to talk

0:38:00.040 --> 0:38:02.839
<v Speaker 2>and third person and hypotheticals like what could it? Like,

0:38:03.200 --> 0:38:05.160
<v Speaker 2>He's not going to get bogged down, but he wants

0:38:05.200 --> 0:38:08.560
<v Speaker 2>to play this game of like instructing and informing the police.

0:38:09.120 --> 0:38:11.960
<v Speaker 2>So Benson amps herself up and is like, okay, let's

0:38:12.040 --> 0:38:16.000
<v Speaker 2>do this. Stabler's in there playing basic threat games and like, oh,

0:38:16.000 --> 0:38:17.840
<v Speaker 2>the knife of the DNA is going to match the

0:38:17.920 --> 0:38:19.680
<v Speaker 2>victims and he goes, bitch, if that was me, I

0:38:19.719 --> 0:38:22.800
<v Speaker 2>would have cleaned it very thoroughly. And so Benson starts

0:38:22.800 --> 0:38:24.719
<v Speaker 2>playing you know her games and she goes, well, then

0:38:24.760 --> 0:38:27.440
<v Speaker 2>who was it? And he says, I can't do that,

0:38:27.560 --> 0:38:29.480
<v Speaker 2>like I don't know, and she goes, wow, all those

0:38:29.520 --> 0:38:32.000
<v Speaker 2>books and you can't put together a simple profile.

0:38:32.480 --> 0:38:33.040
<v Speaker 3>And I like that.

0:38:33.080 --> 0:38:35.040
<v Speaker 2>He knows all the tricks, but this one thing, just

0:38:35.080 --> 0:38:36.800
<v Speaker 2>like the ego, is just too strong.

0:38:36.960 --> 0:38:39.200
<v Speaker 3>He has to get involved. He gets down to work.

0:38:39.880 --> 0:38:43.440
<v Speaker 2>He's like, okay, white male, late thirties, early forties, menial job,

0:38:43.520 --> 0:38:47.120
<v Speaker 2>lives alone, already in the park, was waiting in the shadows.

0:38:47.800 --> 0:38:49.600
<v Speaker 2>It took her a while to find him, but the

0:38:49.680 --> 0:38:53.040
<v Speaker 2>hunt is the most fun part. And Benson is like, wait,

0:38:53.160 --> 0:38:56.040
<v Speaker 2>find what and he goes, well, a wounded animal. If

0:38:56.080 --> 0:38:58.400
<v Speaker 2>he knew her, that's what he would use as bait,

0:38:58.480 --> 0:39:01.040
<v Speaker 2>Like why else would she go in there? And Benson

0:39:01.080 --> 0:39:05.080
<v Speaker 2>goes like damn okay, and like why would why would

0:39:05.080 --> 0:39:07.479
<v Speaker 2>he have to like put why even do this? And

0:39:07.719 --> 0:39:11.440
<v Speaker 2>his guess is maybe she rejected his advances. Takes her

0:39:11.440 --> 0:39:13.359
<v Speaker 2>to a private place to be alone with her for

0:39:13.400 --> 0:39:16.279
<v Speaker 2>a while because you know, he owns her now, her

0:39:16.320 --> 0:39:20.000
<v Speaker 2>body and soul. I mean, he is so creepy and

0:39:20.040 --> 0:39:22.960
<v Speaker 2>now he can do whatever he wants. And Ben's it's like, wait,

0:39:23.040 --> 0:39:26.319
<v Speaker 2>but Tilden was in prime physical condition, like an had

0:39:26.320 --> 0:39:29.040
<v Speaker 2>a gun on her. How did he overpower her? And

0:39:29.200 --> 0:39:31.600
<v Speaker 2>he goes, oh, she never saw him. She was too

0:39:31.680 --> 0:39:34.200
<v Speaker 2>focused and bent over this animal. It was a blitz

0:39:34.200 --> 0:39:37.480
<v Speaker 2>attack and I'm sure he used something handy like a

0:39:37.600 --> 0:39:40.160
<v Speaker 2>rock and he looks at her super evil like, and

0:39:40.160 --> 0:39:42.800
<v Speaker 2>then Stabler makes eyes at the spy window and Huang

0:39:42.880 --> 0:39:45.440
<v Speaker 2>is like, wait, was the rock detail ever released?

0:39:45.440 --> 0:39:46.520
<v Speaker 3>And Cabot says no.

0:39:46.920 --> 0:39:49.160
<v Speaker 2>Craigan goes, maybe a lucky guess, and Cabot goes, I

0:39:49.160 --> 0:39:52.040
<v Speaker 2>don't give a fuck if it's a psychic vision, book him.

0:39:52.520 --> 0:39:55.239
<v Speaker 2>So we get to book him and then they're processing

0:39:55.280 --> 0:39:59.120
<v Speaker 2>Harry and then when they walk back into the precinct,

0:39:59.160 --> 0:40:02.239
<v Speaker 2>Benson goes, oh god, he hit on the mugshot photographer.

0:40:02.520 --> 0:40:03.799
<v Speaker 3>Can you even believe it?

0:40:03.880 --> 0:40:06.560
<v Speaker 2>And they're all shocked, and it's like he is hot,

0:40:06.640 --> 0:40:10.120
<v Speaker 2>Like I don't know why, They're all like can you

0:40:10.239 --> 0:40:13.360
<v Speaker 2>believe this flirty maniac? It's like, yeah, he's a hot

0:40:13.400 --> 0:40:16.000
<v Speaker 2>teen I don't I just I don't know, with an

0:40:16.000 --> 0:40:17.520
<v Speaker 2>inflated ego.

0:40:18.239 --> 0:40:21.800
<v Speaker 3>So yeah, but I'm sure he gets rejected all this time.

0:40:21.640 --> 0:40:26.440
<v Speaker 2>Like he is creepy, yeah, extremely, but all her friends

0:40:26.480 --> 0:40:29.440
<v Speaker 2>still blamed the girl for not going out with him anyways.

0:40:29.960 --> 0:40:33.360
<v Speaker 3>That's crazy. You know. Wait, have I talked about this before?

0:40:33.520 --> 0:40:35.640
<v Speaker 2>This like thing I've I might try to write a

0:40:35.640 --> 0:40:37.759
<v Speaker 2>bit about it, but like I've noticed this happens on

0:40:37.800 --> 0:40:40.920
<v Speaker 2>housewives where they'll be like, uh, I just have a

0:40:40.960 --> 0:40:43.880
<v Speaker 2>hard time with women because after my husband cheated on

0:40:43.920 --> 0:40:46.640
<v Speaker 2>me and left me with nothing, all my girlfriends turn

0:40:46.680 --> 0:40:50.280
<v Speaker 2>their backs on me, and it's like what about the husband?

0:40:50.719 --> 0:40:54.439
<v Speaker 2>You know, But this happens so much where they're like, well,

0:40:54.960 --> 0:40:57.600
<v Speaker 2>the women stopped talking to me after my husband destroyed

0:40:57.640 --> 0:41:00.720
<v Speaker 2>my life, and it's like they're still just more maybe

0:41:00.800 --> 0:41:02.520
<v Speaker 2>we just expect more from her girlfriends.

0:41:02.520 --> 0:41:05.279
<v Speaker 3>I don't know. It's just interesting.

0:41:06.280 --> 0:41:08.719
<v Speaker 2>I wonder if some of her friends went on dates

0:41:08.719 --> 0:41:10.919
<v Speaker 2>with him after he did that to Slinky.

0:41:11.120 --> 0:41:14.640
<v Speaker 1>Wait what, oh Slinky the dog, the cat? The cat dog?

0:41:14.800 --> 0:41:17.399
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, the cat's slinky. The cat's separate. My bad,

0:41:18.640 --> 0:41:22.880
<v Speaker 1>I don't remember the dog's name, Slinky. I like that

0:41:22.920 --> 0:41:24.400
<v Speaker 1>as a little pet name, Slinky.

0:41:24.640 --> 0:41:26.440
<v Speaker 2>I know, is that the name of the dog and

0:41:26.480 --> 0:41:30.719
<v Speaker 2>toy story or no? Or he just has a slinky? Yes,

0:41:30.840 --> 0:41:31.880
<v Speaker 2>I think his name.

0:41:31.960 --> 0:41:34.240
<v Speaker 3>Or is it slink or something? No, it's slinky.

0:41:34.400 --> 0:41:39.320
<v Speaker 1>Oh, it's but you're right, often referred to as slink. Yeah,

0:41:39.400 --> 0:41:42.960
<v Speaker 1>because Rosie Took corrected me the other day when I said, she.

0:41:42.960 --> 0:41:46.759
<v Speaker 2>Goes No, his name is slink. I always liked him.

0:41:46.920 --> 0:41:50.320
<v Speaker 2>I still have a toy from my younger years of him.

0:41:50.680 --> 0:41:54.759
<v Speaker 3>And the new ones. They really like forky. Oh you

0:41:54.800 --> 0:41:57.160
<v Speaker 3>know a sport.

0:41:57.920 --> 0:41:58.120
<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

0:41:58.120 --> 0:42:00.920
<v Speaker 3>But is it he called forky? Oh? I have no idea.

0:42:00.920 --> 0:42:02.600
<v Speaker 3>I think you've seen these more.

0:42:02.719 --> 0:42:06.880
<v Speaker 2>It's yes, yeah, Porky is really cute, but he is

0:42:06.920 --> 0:42:07.360
<v Speaker 2>a spork.

0:42:07.360 --> 0:42:10.640
<v Speaker 3>You're correct, he is. You know what's fucked up?

0:42:10.640 --> 0:42:14.080
<v Speaker 2>I've seen every toy story except for two Oh, what

0:42:14.160 --> 0:42:16.120
<v Speaker 2>the fuck with Jesse, which I feel like I would

0:42:16.160 --> 0:42:16.799
<v Speaker 2>be connected to.

0:42:17.280 --> 0:42:21.040
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's a good one, but neither here nor there.

0:42:21.160 --> 0:42:26.040
<v Speaker 2>Okay, so the knife comes back clean, damn it. So

0:42:26.120 --> 0:42:28.359
<v Speaker 2>now we have to like see when the call came

0:42:28.440 --> 0:42:31.440
<v Speaker 2>in for the animal in the park. So at six

0:42:31.640 --> 0:42:36.160
<v Speaker 2>thirty seven, she got a call from MFPCA, and but

0:42:36.239 --> 0:42:40.080
<v Speaker 2>it wasn't from the dispatch, so that's a little suspicious,

0:42:40.120 --> 0:42:43.160
<v Speaker 2>like the call came from the kennels. And then guess

0:42:43.239 --> 0:42:46.960
<v Speaker 2>what an employee that works at the MFPCA pops up

0:42:46.960 --> 0:42:49.200
<v Speaker 2>in the system. It's the guy from earlier who I

0:42:49.200 --> 0:42:52.439
<v Speaker 2>thought was hot, Joe Paletti, and he's a dog walker there,

0:42:52.640 --> 0:42:53.480
<v Speaker 2>menial job.

0:42:53.880 --> 0:42:55.560
<v Speaker 3>Craigan looks pissed.

0:42:56.040 --> 0:42:58.880
<v Speaker 2>Joe is a seven time rapist, so they bring his

0:42:58.960 --> 0:43:02.400
<v Speaker 2>acid in and how dare he get hired? Like, you know,

0:43:02.600 --> 0:43:08.319
<v Speaker 2>it is a police run kennel. Yeah, how do they

0:43:08.320 --> 0:43:12.439
<v Speaker 2>have a seven time rapist working there? I mean, you're right,

0:43:12.480 --> 0:43:15.560
<v Speaker 2>they're all over the place, like they're everywhere, I mean,

0:43:15.840 --> 0:43:19.440
<v Speaker 2>what the fuck? So anyways, in classic US view fashion,

0:43:19.520 --> 0:43:21.400
<v Speaker 2>there's a meet and greet in the lobby. So Michael

0:43:21.440 --> 0:43:25.040
<v Speaker 2>Pitt sees the dog kennel guy and he goes, oh cool,

0:43:25.120 --> 0:43:26.799
<v Speaker 2>the guy from the kettle, I know him.

0:43:26.880 --> 0:43:27.960
<v Speaker 3>Wait did he do it?

0:43:28.320 --> 0:43:31.480
<v Speaker 2>And Stabler goes to tower over him and flecks his ass,

0:43:31.520 --> 0:43:33.800
<v Speaker 2>like we hate him, but they have to cut him loose,

0:43:33.880 --> 0:43:36.840
<v Speaker 2>so he leaves. Palettia is now it's his turn in

0:43:36.880 --> 0:43:39.320
<v Speaker 2>the cement room bars and he goes, listen, I was

0:43:39.360 --> 0:43:42.319
<v Speaker 2>in Atlantic City gambling and they go, but you called

0:43:42.360 --> 0:43:44.680
<v Speaker 2>from the kennel and he's denying it and says a

0:43:44.719 --> 0:43:46.960
<v Speaker 2>lot of people have access to that phone. And then

0:43:47.000 --> 0:43:49.160
<v Speaker 2>he says that he took the van like his van's

0:43:49.200 --> 0:43:52.920
<v Speaker 2>Atlantic City, but the van was actually stolen, so I

0:43:52.920 --> 0:43:55.560
<v Speaker 2>don't know what to tell you, and they go, can

0:43:55.560 --> 0:43:59.319
<v Speaker 2>you even fucking breathe without lying? You're bullshit? And why

0:43:59.360 --> 0:44:01.440
<v Speaker 2>didn't you file police report for your missing van?

0:44:01.640 --> 0:44:02.200
<v Speaker 3>Huh?

0:44:02.239 --> 0:44:04.600
<v Speaker 2>And Stabler's like, don't worry, we'll find the van for you.

0:44:04.880 --> 0:44:07.440
<v Speaker 2>And then they ask if anyone at work knows about

0:44:07.560 --> 0:44:10.520
<v Speaker 2>him being a rapist. He says it never came up,

0:44:10.560 --> 0:44:13.400
<v Speaker 2>which is a parole violation to not disclose on a

0:44:13.480 --> 0:44:14.239
<v Speaker 2>job application.

0:44:14.760 --> 0:44:16.880
<v Speaker 3>I guess for dog walking. Maybe they don't check. I

0:44:16.920 --> 0:44:17.200
<v Speaker 3>don't know.

0:44:17.600 --> 0:44:19.759
<v Speaker 2>So his first charge, when he was eighteen, he served

0:44:19.760 --> 0:44:22.719
<v Speaker 2>three years for raping his fourteen year old girlfriend, and

0:44:22.760 --> 0:44:25.520
<v Speaker 2>then a bunch of break ins and rapes happened, and

0:44:25.560 --> 0:44:29.120
<v Speaker 2>he says he doesn't have those feelings anymore, and Benson's like, okay,

0:44:29.160 --> 0:44:31.279
<v Speaker 2>well you'd be the first one I've come across, and

0:44:31.280 --> 0:44:33.960
<v Speaker 2>he goes, I got help. I've never missed a session.

0:44:34.080 --> 0:44:36.359
<v Speaker 2>It's been three years since I got out. And they

0:44:36.440 --> 0:44:38.200
<v Speaker 2>try to break him down and he goes, yes, I

0:44:38.239 --> 0:44:40.560
<v Speaker 2>was sick back then, but you know how many of

0:44:40.560 --> 0:44:41.600
<v Speaker 2>those people did I kill?

0:44:41.719 --> 0:44:42.040
<v Speaker 3>None?

0:44:42.120 --> 0:44:44.440
<v Speaker 2>That's not my thing, and they're like, yeah, but you

0:44:44.520 --> 0:44:46.560
<v Speaker 2>realize with living witnesses, you had to go to jail

0:44:46.560 --> 0:44:48.759
<v Speaker 2>for twelve years. This time, you didn't want to go

0:44:48.800 --> 0:44:51.160
<v Speaker 2>back to jail, so you fucking killed Pam and ed

0:44:51.520 --> 0:44:53.600
<v Speaker 2>and he's like, no, I did in he's screaming no.

0:44:54.560 --> 0:44:55.960
<v Speaker 3>He goes, I'm rehabilitated.

0:44:56.520 --> 0:44:58.879
<v Speaker 2>So now they're like, you know, they tore Paletti's house

0:44:58.960 --> 0:45:01.520
<v Speaker 2>up and all they found was black casket, mini trunk

0:45:01.560 --> 0:45:05.640
<v Speaker 2>box situation, and it's filled with Victoria's secret catalogs, strip

0:45:05.680 --> 0:45:10.480
<v Speaker 2>club flyers, personal ads, sex chats like printed out, and

0:45:10.960 --> 0:45:13.720
<v Speaker 2>just a box of creepy stuff. And Munch also finds

0:45:13.760 --> 0:45:17.200
<v Speaker 2>twenty short stories of wal to Wall rape torture, Like

0:45:17.280 --> 0:45:20.160
<v Speaker 2>walt Wall is a funny word to me. It's usually

0:45:20.200 --> 0:45:22.520
<v Speaker 2>like wal to Wall laughs, like about movies. So I've

0:45:22.560 --> 0:45:27.760
<v Speaker 2>just like never heard wal to Wall rape torture. Yeah,

0:45:27.800 --> 0:45:31.359
<v Speaker 2>he sent the stories to some sex Defender buddies and

0:45:31.400 --> 0:45:34.000
<v Speaker 2>he has a letter like from one of his friends going, Yo,

0:45:34.120 --> 0:45:36.839
<v Speaker 2>this is the best story yet. And Kabot's like, give

0:45:36.840 --> 0:45:39.640
<v Speaker 2>those to me and snatches them away, and we're we

0:45:39.680 --> 0:45:43.480
<v Speaker 2>are at chambers. We're at Judge Petrowski's office, and Joe

0:45:43.480 --> 0:45:47.160
<v Speaker 2>does have a good lawyer, cleo'conrad Joe Marie Lawrence. So

0:45:47.360 --> 0:45:50.239
<v Speaker 2>she's there and she goes, it's his private thoughts and

0:45:50.280 --> 0:45:52.560
<v Speaker 2>Kabba goes, then why am I reading them off a

0:45:52.560 --> 0:45:55.799
<v Speaker 2>piece of paper? And they go back and forth for

0:45:55.880 --> 0:45:58.360
<v Speaker 2>a while. You can use it, you cannot? Can we

0:45:58.400 --> 0:46:01.120
<v Speaker 2>write it? And then Cleo says this is back door

0:46:01.239 --> 0:46:03.760
<v Speaker 2>and you know it, and Cabot goes, your client open

0:46:03.840 --> 0:46:07.880
<v Speaker 2>that door. I like love that. So we're going to

0:46:07.960 --> 0:46:10.680
<v Speaker 2>core or not, Like what's what's gonna happen? So the

0:46:10.760 --> 0:46:13.319
<v Speaker 2>judge is like, I think this is overreaching, but I'm

0:46:13.320 --> 0:46:16.520
<v Speaker 2>gonna let a Jerry decide. Cleo is pissed, Cabot is smug.

0:46:16.640 --> 0:46:19.920
<v Speaker 2>We're at trial and straight to the verdict and the

0:46:20.000 --> 0:46:22.480
<v Speaker 2>sole count of obscenity in the third degree. They do

0:46:22.560 --> 0:46:24.560
<v Speaker 2>find the defendant guilty.

0:46:25.239 --> 0:46:25.840
<v Speaker 3>He shocked.

0:46:25.880 --> 0:46:30.240
<v Speaker 2>Cleo's annoyed. He gets remanded gavel pound. So then Stabler

0:46:30.280 --> 0:46:33.839
<v Speaker 2>and Benson slowly walk on over to Cabot and they're like, okay, girl,

0:46:33.960 --> 0:46:37.080
<v Speaker 2>fun and then they Benson goes, nice, snow.

0:46:36.920 --> 0:46:41.200
<v Speaker 3>Job, what does that mean? Um?

0:46:41.400 --> 0:46:43.200
<v Speaker 2>And then Cabot's like, I mean, they asked me to

0:46:43.239 --> 0:46:45.440
<v Speaker 2>stop reading from the story in less than a page,

0:46:45.480 --> 0:46:47.640
<v Speaker 2>I know, she says, in less than a page she

0:46:47.680 --> 0:46:48.319
<v Speaker 2>knew it was him.

0:46:48.480 --> 0:46:50.919
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it says a deception or concealment of one's real

0:46:50.960 --> 0:46:53.359
<v Speaker 1>motive in an attempt to flatter or persuade.

0:46:54.000 --> 0:46:57.080
<v Speaker 2>Oh okay, so it was like a fake case with

0:46:57.160 --> 0:46:59.000
<v Speaker 2>these letters to get him off the street to then

0:46:59.080 --> 0:47:02.400
<v Speaker 2>go find evidence. Okay, So yeah, they read the stories

0:47:02.400 --> 0:47:04.759
<v Speaker 2>out loud. They were so disgusting, like she knew that

0:47:04.840 --> 0:47:06.839
<v Speaker 2>the jury was going to convict. But Stabler's like, it's

0:47:06.880 --> 0:47:10.200
<v Speaker 2>only one year. And then Cabot goes, well, there's no

0:47:10.239 --> 0:47:12.680
<v Speaker 2>statute of limitations on murder, so go do your job,

0:47:12.800 --> 0:47:15.000
<v Speaker 2>and we can give him more time, and they're like,

0:47:15.000 --> 0:47:17.840
<v Speaker 2>there's no evidence, and Cabbot goes, yeah, that year is

0:47:17.880 --> 0:47:21.160
<v Speaker 2>what I just bought you to find the head, and yeah,

0:47:21.200 --> 0:47:23.600
<v Speaker 2>she's putting them to work. So they breathe deep and

0:47:23.640 --> 0:47:25.800
<v Speaker 2>they're like, fuck, we have to find this head. Benson

0:47:25.840 --> 0:47:29.440
<v Speaker 2>walks off. Sailor turns around and there is Harry chilling

0:47:30.120 --> 0:47:32.359
<v Speaker 2>and he's like, yeah, I'm just doing homework. He has

0:47:32.400 --> 0:47:35.200
<v Speaker 2>a pen in his mouth, like really relaxed and sassy,

0:47:35.400 --> 0:47:38.439
<v Speaker 2>holding his notebook and this is just pissing Stabler off.

0:47:38.480 --> 0:47:41.320
<v Speaker 2>So Stabler grabs him by the collar pushes him against

0:47:41.360 --> 0:47:44.520
<v Speaker 2>the wall. But then the best part is Stablor goes,

0:47:44.760 --> 0:47:47.759
<v Speaker 2>come here, you sick little freak. And I like that.

0:47:47.760 --> 0:47:49.680
<v Speaker 2>That's a good T shirt too. Came here are you

0:47:49.840 --> 0:47:52.480
<v Speaker 2>sick little freak? He's like, whoa, whoa, whoa whoa, babe,

0:47:52.480 --> 0:47:55.200
<v Speaker 2>there are witnesses here. Criminology one oh one. If you

0:47:55.239 --> 0:47:57.320
<v Speaker 2>want to break the law and make sure no one's around,

0:47:57.760 --> 0:48:00.640
<v Speaker 2>and Stablor goes, oh, you think you're really cute, don't you,

0:48:00.719 --> 0:48:03.080
<v Speaker 2>And he goes twenty three cheerleaders can't be wrong, and

0:48:03.120 --> 0:48:05.920
<v Speaker 2>it's like ugh, like you're such a loser. You're hot stop.

0:48:06.360 --> 0:48:08.680
<v Speaker 2>But I guess, says mom, you know fucked him up.

0:48:08.719 --> 0:48:10.920
<v Speaker 2>So Stabler says, I know where you live, I know

0:48:10.960 --> 0:48:13.200
<v Speaker 2>where you learn, and I know where you bury your kill.

0:48:13.520 --> 0:48:16.040
<v Speaker 2>So get used to seeing my face because you're gonna

0:48:16.040 --> 0:48:18.600
<v Speaker 2>see it everywhere you turn. And he goes, don't lose

0:48:18.640 --> 0:48:22.000
<v Speaker 2>your head, detective, You're already having enough trouble finding one.

0:48:22.440 --> 0:48:25.120
<v Speaker 2>And then Stablor goes, eh, that's good. You know we

0:48:25.200 --> 0:48:28.399
<v Speaker 2>found your whole stash. And you know he knows it's

0:48:28.400 --> 0:48:32.239
<v Speaker 2>not true. So then Michael Pitt goes, hello, you think

0:48:32.239 --> 0:48:35.440
<v Speaker 2>there's just one. There's never just one, and then he

0:48:35.480 --> 0:48:37.600
<v Speaker 2>pouts and the camera stays on his face for like

0:48:37.719 --> 0:48:40.520
<v Speaker 2>ten seconds. And now we're outside of court and Stabler's like,

0:48:40.560 --> 0:48:42.600
<v Speaker 2>oh my god, we gave up too easy. We have

0:48:42.680 --> 0:48:45.719
<v Speaker 2>to find Pialetti's real stash. And it's like, so is

0:48:45.760 --> 0:48:49.200
<v Speaker 2>Harry not a suspect anymore at all? Because even when

0:48:49.200 --> 0:48:52.279
<v Speaker 2>I heard him be like, there's never just one stash, detective,

0:48:52.760 --> 0:48:56.399
<v Speaker 2>I was thinking, oh, it's Harry's stash, like that, there's

0:48:56.600 --> 0:49:00.279
<v Speaker 2>he has another stash with this head. But I guess

0:49:00.280 --> 0:49:02.600
<v Speaker 2>his profile was right and it is Polletti. But I

0:49:02.640 --> 0:49:04.520
<v Speaker 2>just thought they would be investigating both of them. So

0:49:04.520 --> 0:49:06.880
<v Speaker 2>it's like, I know, I actually this is like I

0:49:07.000 --> 0:49:07.719
<v Speaker 2>was confused.

0:49:07.800 --> 0:49:09.520
<v Speaker 1>I thought when they go find him that like that

0:49:09.680 --> 0:49:12.239
<v Speaker 1>Harry somehow is like framing POLLETTI like I didn't know

0:49:12.280 --> 0:49:14.960
<v Speaker 1>how this was going, like at a good episode.

0:49:15.239 --> 0:49:15.439
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

0:49:15.520 --> 0:49:19.560
<v Speaker 2>So but they find the stolen van of Paletti, so

0:49:19.600 --> 0:49:23.800
<v Speaker 2>the detectives full teamwork, and Stabler sees bloodstains. It's canine

0:49:23.840 --> 0:49:26.319
<v Speaker 2>blood though, so the Emmy who we don't Okay, So

0:49:26.360 --> 0:49:30.239
<v Speaker 2>there's four CSU texts in this episode. Four because we

0:49:30.320 --> 0:49:34.279
<v Speaker 2>saw Bert Trevor, we saw hallerin and then there's two

0:49:34.400 --> 0:49:36.680
<v Speaker 2>unknowns who have like only one episode each. But I

0:49:36.680 --> 0:49:40.439
<v Speaker 2>can't believe there's four in this episode. Yeah, I wonder

0:49:40.440 --> 0:49:44.360
<v Speaker 2>why they didn't just reuse people. But it Yeah, the

0:49:44.400 --> 0:49:47.359
<v Speaker 2>blood didn't help because it is dog blood, but they

0:49:47.360 --> 0:49:49.960
<v Speaker 2>have but but also what animal did they use? Like

0:49:49.960 --> 0:49:51.960
<v Speaker 2>what dead animal was in the park, Like they never

0:49:51.960 --> 0:49:53.680
<v Speaker 2>really tell us about that, Like it could have been

0:49:53.719 --> 0:49:56.760
<v Speaker 2>this blood that they find in Yeah. Yeah, but anyway,

0:49:56.800 --> 0:49:58.560
<v Speaker 2>so the blood didn't help. But there's dirt on the

0:49:58.600 --> 0:50:01.240
<v Speaker 2>tires that's going to lead to some thing. There's marine

0:50:01.360 --> 0:50:06.360
<v Speaker 2>sand in bedrock. It's from South Jersey. Glass beads, reflective paint.

0:50:06.560 --> 0:50:09.880
<v Speaker 2>U turn pull off. I can't with the soil info.

0:50:10.280 --> 0:50:13.040
<v Speaker 2>He spun his wheels in the mud, he got out

0:50:13.080 --> 0:50:15.759
<v Speaker 2>of the van, dumped the head, and flew out of there.

0:50:15.840 --> 0:50:17.759
<v Speaker 2>So it's like, okay, but where So it has to

0:50:17.840 --> 0:50:20.520
<v Speaker 2>be somewhere in Jersey or near Atlantic City, like where

0:50:20.560 --> 0:50:23.640
<v Speaker 2>are we? We want more info? And he says that

0:50:23.719 --> 0:50:28.239
<v Speaker 2>the soil had chemical byproducts. X ray fluorescent spectrometer will

0:50:28.280 --> 0:50:29.239
<v Speaker 2>help him figure out.

0:50:29.520 --> 0:50:30.719
<v Speaker 3>Shut the fuck up, you know.

0:50:30.719 --> 0:50:34.120
<v Speaker 2>And then he's like with the levels like this, this

0:50:34.200 --> 0:50:37.280
<v Speaker 2>dude was like on top of a chemical plant drainage ditch.

0:50:38.120 --> 0:50:39.919
<v Speaker 2>And so it's like, okay, I guess we'll go check

0:50:39.920 --> 0:50:42.120
<v Speaker 2>all these plants. Like what are we gonna do? He

0:50:42.160 --> 0:50:44.719
<v Speaker 2>gambled till five thirty am. He used the player's card

0:50:44.840 --> 0:50:48.080
<v Speaker 2>at the casino, so they know the exact hours he

0:50:48.280 --> 0:50:52.160
<v Speaker 2>was playing. And then there there's like squeaking markers all

0:50:52.200 --> 0:50:55.399
<v Speaker 2>around the board map the journey, their map, questing how

0:50:55.480 --> 0:50:55.799
<v Speaker 2>you know what?

0:50:56.440 --> 0:50:57.480
<v Speaker 3>How are they going to figure out?

0:50:57.760 --> 0:51:00.160
<v Speaker 2>Then the science cop did all those tests on the

0:51:00.200 --> 0:51:03.399
<v Speaker 2>dirt that he was bragging about, and he goes high

0:51:03.480 --> 0:51:07.960
<v Speaker 2>levels of mercury. It's mercury salt Brian and currants and

0:51:08.360 --> 0:51:12.040
<v Speaker 2>chlorine sodium hydroxide. Get me out of this mess. And

0:51:12.120 --> 0:51:16.520
<v Speaker 2>so then he goes and low pH level and hydrochloronic acid,

0:51:16.560 --> 0:51:18.920
<v Speaker 2>and finally Craigan yells what we're all thinking, which is

0:51:19.280 --> 0:51:21.640
<v Speaker 2>how many plants have this mercury? Like we do not

0:51:21.800 --> 0:51:24.880
<v Speaker 2>care about this stuff, Like you could talk to cabin

0:51:24.920 --> 0:51:28.080
<v Speaker 2>about the science for core and he goes, only one plant.

0:51:28.200 --> 0:51:30.400
<v Speaker 2>You've wasted so much time you could have been like,

0:51:30.560 --> 0:51:36.480
<v Speaker 2>we connected it. So it's IDJ Chemicals. So we're at

0:51:36.520 --> 0:51:40.279
<v Speaker 2>IDJ Chemicals and all these divers. There's a big team

0:51:40.360 --> 0:51:43.960
<v Speaker 2>looking for the head, and there's tire marks, and so

0:51:44.120 --> 0:51:46.160
<v Speaker 2>we know that he was there. The tire marks match

0:51:46.560 --> 0:51:48.799
<v Speaker 2>and they're starting to give up Pupe. They find a

0:51:48.800 --> 0:51:50.800
<v Speaker 2>box of his crap, but it's just an old Robier

0:51:50.880 --> 0:51:53.719
<v Speaker 2>cans and cigarette butts. But then there's an earring and

0:51:53.719 --> 0:51:56.520
<v Speaker 2>Benson's like, wait what and she grabs a little evidence

0:51:56.560 --> 0:51:59.320
<v Speaker 2>bag and in it is a fucking dog earring.

0:51:59.640 --> 0:52:01.640
<v Speaker 3>Okay, like who loves dogs?

0:52:01.680 --> 0:52:04.600
<v Speaker 2>But this dog cop and so you know, and I

0:52:04.600 --> 0:52:06.520
<v Speaker 2>can't believe it's him and not Michael pitt Or they're

0:52:06.560 --> 0:52:07.280
<v Speaker 2>not working together.

0:52:07.320 --> 0:52:08.880
<v Speaker 3>I'm just like so shocked at all of this.

0:52:09.080 --> 0:52:13.160
<v Speaker 2>So yeah, we go to see Joe and he's like,

0:52:13.280 --> 0:52:16.279
<v Speaker 2>so we it's Stabler. So Stabler goes to see Joe

0:52:16.760 --> 0:52:18.960
<v Speaker 2>getting like, you know, moved around in the cells. It's

0:52:18.960 --> 0:52:23.560
<v Speaker 2>like really dark prison vibes, and Joe's being cocky, goes,

0:52:23.600 --> 0:52:25.560
<v Speaker 2>I could do a year on my head, no problem,

0:52:25.600 --> 0:52:27.840
<v Speaker 2>And Stabler walks over with the bag and the doggy

0:52:27.920 --> 0:52:32.520
<v Speaker 2>earring that's eighteen carrots. Stabler says, well, we found this

0:52:32.600 --> 0:52:35.640
<v Speaker 2>earring where we know you dumped Pam's head, and he goes,

0:52:35.760 --> 0:52:37.719
<v Speaker 2>you can't prove it's hers, and they go, yeah we can,

0:52:38.400 --> 0:52:41.040
<v Speaker 2>and he goes, yeah we can. It was specially made

0:52:41.080 --> 0:52:43.759
<v Speaker 2>for her to commemorate five years on the force. This

0:52:43.960 --> 0:52:47.799
<v Speaker 2>is sad. She was just like because I wonder if

0:52:47.800 --> 0:52:50.719
<v Speaker 2>she pissed him off, Like I wonder if he just

0:52:50.800 --> 0:52:54.239
<v Speaker 2>needed to do it, Like I'm curious why he chose her.

0:52:54.320 --> 0:52:56.200
<v Speaker 3>Like with Michael Pitt, there was motive with this.

0:52:56.320 --> 0:52:58.200
<v Speaker 2>It's like, what the fuck, it's just because you have

0:52:58.239 --> 0:53:00.960
<v Speaker 2>a job you're not proud of and you are a rapist.

0:53:01.160 --> 0:53:05.120
<v Speaker 2>But so the pervert is stunned and says it doesn't

0:53:05.200 --> 0:53:08.880
<v Speaker 2>mean Jack and then Sailor goes, but there's more, and

0:53:08.920 --> 0:53:12.720
<v Speaker 2>he's loving every moment of the slow reveal. Her DNA

0:53:12.880 --> 0:53:15.800
<v Speaker 2>is on the dog earring and there's a three point

0:53:15.840 --> 0:53:19.200
<v Speaker 2>match to his thumb print. So add twenty five more

0:53:19.280 --> 0:53:22.680
<v Speaker 2>years and choke on it and he is stunned. And

0:53:22.719 --> 0:53:25.840
<v Speaker 2>that is dick wolf baby crazy. Michael Pitt is a

0:53:25.880 --> 0:53:30.680
<v Speaker 2>red herring and all this and yeah, so and one

0:53:30.760 --> 0:53:32.799
<v Speaker 2>day he will go down for murder, like Michael Pitt

0:53:32.800 --> 0:53:34.120
<v Speaker 2>will will murder a person.

0:53:34.280 --> 0:53:36.920
<v Speaker 1>They lost an opportunity to bring him back, like season

0:53:37.000 --> 0:53:39.160
<v Speaker 1>seven eight, bring him back and be like we watch

0:53:39.200 --> 0:53:42.360
<v Speaker 1>this kid for cause, like it's bring him back.

0:53:42.280 --> 0:53:45.480
<v Speaker 2>Now, they can bring him back season twenty seven, let's go.

0:53:46.400 --> 0:53:49.920
<v Speaker 3>Oh my god, the biggest shit bring the biggest.

0:53:49.760 --> 0:53:52.480
<v Speaker 1>Arc jump in his story from season three to season

0:53:52.480 --> 0:53:53.120
<v Speaker 1>twenty six.

0:53:53.400 --> 0:53:57.120
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, for my Becket's agent is listening, come on, bring

0:53:57.239 --> 0:53:58.280
<v Speaker 3>him home.

0:53:59.239 --> 0:54:02.000
<v Speaker 2>Oh my god, that would have been That would be

0:54:02.040 --> 0:54:06.080
<v Speaker 2>so fucking cool. Yeah, but yeah, he's definitely gonna murder.

0:54:06.160 --> 0:54:09.120
<v Speaker 2>I'm glad they got Joe. I'm really sad. Pam Tilden

0:54:09.239 --> 0:54:11.759
<v Speaker 2>is dead, like obviously acab but not if you're the

0:54:11.800 --> 0:54:13.480
<v Speaker 2>dog cop, like we like you a little more.

0:54:13.640 --> 0:54:15.000
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, like you're trying to do.

0:54:15.120 --> 0:54:17.040
<v Speaker 1>You're trying to kind of prosecute crimes that like no

0:54:17.080 --> 0:54:20.080
<v Speaker 1>one even gets bad punishments for, like, yeah, you're just

0:54:20.120 --> 0:54:24.120
<v Speaker 1>stopping dog rings and stuff. Jesus, all right, well, let's

0:54:24.160 --> 0:54:28.960
<v Speaker 1>get into the true crime, because this is, uh, this

0:54:29.040 --> 0:54:32.680
<v Speaker 1>is this is a lot of details from the real case.

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<v Speaker 1>So I first wanted to say that A couple of

0:54:44.000 --> 0:54:46.800
<v Speaker 1>sources said that this was also maybe based on Black Dahlia,

0:54:46.960 --> 0:54:48.759
<v Speaker 1>But I think if you know anything about the Black

0:54:48.800 --> 0:54:51.879
<v Speaker 1>Dahlia case, this is not really similar very much.

0:54:52.000 --> 0:54:54.719
<v Speaker 3>I feel like it's a nude Black Dahlia movie coming out.

0:54:55.040 --> 0:54:57.680
<v Speaker 1>Oh, I'm like obsessed with the black You feel like

0:54:57.760 --> 0:54:59.640
<v Speaker 1>I just watched a trailer.

0:54:59.239 --> 0:55:03.040
<v Speaker 3>But I don't. There is the show I Am the

0:55:03.160 --> 0:55:03.840
<v Speaker 3>Night or whatever.

0:55:03.880 --> 0:55:08.000
<v Speaker 1>It's based on a podcast called it's called The Root

0:55:08.000 --> 0:55:10.200
<v Speaker 1>of It's called Root of Evil this podcast, and it's

0:55:10.480 --> 0:55:12.880
<v Speaker 1>really fascinating. I really loved listening to it about the

0:55:12.880 --> 0:55:15.279
<v Speaker 1>Black Dahlias. So treat yourself to an episode of that

0:55:15.320 --> 0:55:17.560
<v Speaker 1>after you're done here. But for now, I'm going to

0:55:17.560 --> 0:55:21.600
<v Speaker 1>tell you guys about the Jason Massy case. Jason Massey

0:55:21.840 --> 0:55:25.080
<v Speaker 1>was a Texan who you know. I feel like I

0:55:25.160 --> 0:55:27.120
<v Speaker 1>just keep saying the same things over and over again.

0:55:27.280 --> 0:55:30.400
<v Speaker 1>Grew up abused and neglected by his parents. Dad was

0:55:30.440 --> 0:55:34.120
<v Speaker 1>an alcoholic, mom was a drug addict. I truly we

0:55:34.160 --> 0:55:36.320
<v Speaker 1>need you know. This is a good reason why reproductive

0:55:36.360 --> 0:55:38.480
<v Speaker 1>rights are important, because not everybody's meant to be parents.

0:55:38.960 --> 0:55:42.799
<v Speaker 1>And he had a record, like we've said a million times,

0:55:42.880 --> 0:55:46.239
<v Speaker 1>it started in his teens, including stalking and torturing animals.

0:55:46.600 --> 0:55:49.360
<v Speaker 1>He would and you know, obviously if you've made it

0:55:49.360 --> 0:55:52.680
<v Speaker 1>this far, trigger warning for animal abuse, but he would

0:55:52.680 --> 0:55:56.160
<v Speaker 1>decapitate and mutilate dogs, cats, and cows and keep their

0:55:56.160 --> 0:56:00.000
<v Speaker 1>skulls as trophies, like our friend Harry in this book,

0:56:00.080 --> 0:56:03.040
<v Speaker 1>in this episode once one time, you know how you

0:56:03.040 --> 0:56:05.399
<v Speaker 1>were saying, like Jesus, if that's your son's room, maybe

0:56:05.440 --> 0:56:08.239
<v Speaker 1>you step in. One time, this kid's mom did have

0:56:08.360 --> 0:56:11.200
<v Speaker 1>him committed after she found a journal, and in the

0:56:11.280 --> 0:56:15.360
<v Speaker 1>journal he's talking all about rape, murder, Satan, his reverence

0:56:15.400 --> 0:56:18.120
<v Speaker 1>for Charles Manson, how he wanted to become a serial killer.

0:56:18.320 --> 0:56:20.479
<v Speaker 1>So she did have him committed for a little while,

0:56:20.560 --> 0:56:22.719
<v Speaker 1>but you know, he got out and it didn't really

0:56:22.800 --> 0:56:26.680
<v Speaker 1>do anything. He loved Ted Bundy, Henry Lee Lucas. He

0:56:26.760 --> 0:56:30.840
<v Speaker 1>wanted he craved the attention that famous serial killers would get,

0:56:31.120 --> 0:56:36.080
<v Speaker 1>but unfortunately the little stint in the mental institution did

0:56:36.080 --> 0:56:40.440
<v Speaker 1>not do anything for him. He was twenty years old

0:56:40.680 --> 0:56:43.799
<v Speaker 1>and he had had a flirtation with a thirteen year

0:56:43.840 --> 0:56:47.799
<v Speaker 1>old girl named Christina Benjamin, and he told her to

0:56:47.960 --> 0:56:50.080
<v Speaker 1>sneak out of her house and then he'd pick her up.

0:56:50.120 --> 0:56:52.960
<v Speaker 1>And this is July twenty seventh of nineteen ninety three, okay,

0:56:53.320 --> 0:56:56.160
<v Speaker 1>and he had recently gotten out of prison for animal cruelty.

0:56:56.200 --> 0:56:58.360
<v Speaker 3>He had done like a short stint for animal cruelty.

0:56:58.960 --> 0:57:02.160
<v Speaker 1>He picked up Chris and her fourteen year old step brother,

0:57:02.280 --> 0:57:07.680
<v Speaker 1>Brian King, and he shot them both dead, and then yes,

0:57:07.880 --> 0:57:09.680
<v Speaker 1>and then escalated quickly.

0:57:09.880 --> 0:57:12.880
<v Speaker 3>Yes, very much so, and then very graphically.

0:57:13.480 --> 0:57:16.920
<v Speaker 1>After he killed Christina, he cut off her head, her hands,

0:57:17.480 --> 0:57:22.040
<v Speaker 1>her nipples, and he mutilated her genitals and removed her intestines.

0:57:23.120 --> 0:57:24.720
<v Speaker 3>I think that might be the only.

0:57:24.480 --> 0:57:26.880
<v Speaker 1>Link to Black Dollia, that the Black Dollia's intestines were

0:57:26.880 --> 0:57:30.080
<v Speaker 1>also removed, but there's really not. She was also completely bisected,

0:57:30.160 --> 0:57:31.320
<v Speaker 1>so it's a very different crime.

0:57:32.000 --> 0:57:33.120
<v Speaker 3>He shot King.

0:57:34.720 --> 0:57:38.680
<v Speaker 1>Caught in half, cut fully in half, like her body

0:57:38.720 --> 0:57:39.760
<v Speaker 1>was found in two pieces.

0:57:40.680 --> 0:57:44.800
<v Speaker 3>So yeah, yuck. He shot the boy.

0:57:44.840 --> 0:57:46.440
<v Speaker 2>So he went on a date with this girl and

0:57:46.480 --> 0:57:48.480
<v Speaker 2>then just shot her and her brother.

0:57:49.280 --> 0:57:51.240
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and then I mean.

0:57:51.240 --> 0:57:55.200
<v Speaker 1>He did the nipples very ed gain, Yes, and he

0:57:55.360 --> 0:57:57.080
<v Speaker 1>was obsessed with all these guys. He was obsessed with

0:57:57.200 --> 0:57:59.720
<v Speaker 1>the serial killers. I think he thought, I'm gonna like

0:57:59.760 --> 0:58:02.439
<v Speaker 1>there's more info about what was going on in his head.

0:58:02.440 --> 0:58:05.440
<v Speaker 1>But he shot the brother twice. And the two teens

0:58:05.440 --> 0:58:09.760
<v Speaker 1>had been missing now from their town, which was called Garrett,

0:58:09.800 --> 0:58:13.120
<v Speaker 1>thirty miles southeast of Dallas. And then two days after

0:58:13.160 --> 0:58:15.960
<v Speaker 1>they've gone missed, two days after the murder, their bodies

0:58:15.960 --> 0:58:18.200
<v Speaker 1>were found in a field by a road worker and

0:58:18.760 --> 0:58:22.400
<v Speaker 1>the body parts were missing, the head and the hands

0:58:22.520 --> 0:58:25.480
<v Speaker 1>and everything. They were all missing and they've never been found.

0:58:26.320 --> 0:58:28.880
<v Speaker 1>So a lot like what happened in this episode. Yeah,

0:58:29.280 --> 0:58:32.560
<v Speaker 1>So they got Massy very quickly with forensics. I mean,

0:58:32.840 --> 0:58:37.000
<v Speaker 1>he thinks he's this serial mastermind. He's no, you know,

0:58:37.280 --> 0:58:41.120
<v Speaker 1>Michael Pitt. Okay, he gets arrested very quickly. In October

0:58:41.120 --> 0:58:43.400
<v Speaker 1>of nineteen eighty four, he's found guilty of capital murder,

0:58:43.760 --> 0:58:48.160
<v Speaker 1>which we touched on briefly last episode. It's basically first

0:58:48.160 --> 0:58:51.720
<v Speaker 1>degree murder with special circumstances. It's killing more than one person,

0:58:51.880 --> 0:58:55.680
<v Speaker 1>killing for financial gain, killing a police officer, firefighter, prosecutor,

0:58:55.760 --> 0:58:58.960
<v Speaker 1>judged or or elected official, killing a witness to prevent

0:58:58.960 --> 0:59:01.800
<v Speaker 1>their testimony, or a drive by shooting.

0:59:01.440 --> 0:59:02.240
<v Speaker 3>With intent to kill.

0:59:02.240 --> 0:59:05.360
<v Speaker 1>These are a few examples of the special circumstances. And

0:59:05.400 --> 0:59:08.480
<v Speaker 1>it's called capital because it's only there's only two possible

0:59:08.520 --> 0:59:11.560
<v Speaker 1>penalties capital punishment, the death penalty or a life in

0:59:11.600 --> 0:59:13.200
<v Speaker 1>prison without the possibility of pearl.

0:59:13.920 --> 0:59:18.560
<v Speaker 3>I can't believe it's for money. Yeah, like hitman, I

0:59:18.560 --> 0:59:22.120
<v Speaker 3>guess would be. Oh yeah.

0:59:22.440 --> 0:59:25.280
<v Speaker 1>An expert testified at the sentencing that he was a

0:59:25.280 --> 0:59:28.360
<v Speaker 1>long term threat to society and could not be rehabilitated.

0:59:28.680 --> 0:59:31.360
<v Speaker 1>One of his classmates testified that he'd threatened her and

0:59:31.400 --> 0:59:34.000
<v Speaker 1>then killed and mutilated her dog, smearing the blood on

0:59:34.040 --> 0:59:37.160
<v Speaker 1>her car, just like what happens in the episode. Another

0:59:37.200 --> 0:59:40.000
<v Speaker 1>witness testified that he was walking in the woods when

0:59:40.000 --> 0:59:43.120
<v Speaker 1>he found a cooler, and inside the cooler were thirty

0:59:43.160 --> 0:59:46.800
<v Speaker 1>one dog and cat's skulls, just like in the episode.

0:59:46.880 --> 0:59:49.960
<v Speaker 1>There were also four of his journals which he had

0:59:50.000 --> 0:59:54.000
<v Speaker 1>labeled Slayer's Book of Death, Volumes one through four, and

0:59:54.080 --> 0:59:56.680
<v Speaker 1>in it he talks about becoming a great serial killer.

0:59:57.160 --> 0:59:58.000
<v Speaker 3>So I think that's.

0:59:57.840 --> 1:00:01.280
<v Speaker 1>Why he's doing all this cutting opening up bodies, because

1:00:01.320 --> 1:00:03.640
<v Speaker 1>he's like thinks the gory or the better or something.

1:00:03.720 --> 1:00:06.760
<v Speaker 1>But it was like, honestly, you I think the problem

1:00:06.800 --> 1:00:08.960
<v Speaker 1>you didn't focus on enough was getting away with it,

1:00:09.080 --> 1:00:11.560
<v Speaker 1>you know, like disposing of the or like you know,

1:00:12.120 --> 1:00:14.280
<v Speaker 1>people probably knew that you were going on a date

1:00:14.320 --> 1:00:15.880
<v Speaker 1>with this girl, like I don't know, they found him

1:00:15.920 --> 1:00:19.320
<v Speaker 1>very fast. There's so little information about this case online too,

1:00:19.440 --> 1:00:22.360
<v Speaker 1>like articles from Australia, Like it's so crazy, you know,

1:00:22.400 --> 1:00:25.000
<v Speaker 1>Australia randomly will be like here's a lot about this

1:00:25.080 --> 1:00:28.960
<v Speaker 1>American crime that happened anyway, kind of like what happened

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<v Speaker 1>with Cleoconrad.

1:00:30.120 --> 1:00:30.760
<v Speaker 3>With Paletti.

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<v Speaker 1>In the episode, the prosecutors are really trying to use

1:00:33.560 --> 1:00:36.400
<v Speaker 1>his journals in court, and I think they ended up

1:00:36.400 --> 1:00:39.600
<v Speaker 1>getting them admitted. They heavily relied on them, but the

1:00:39.720 --> 1:00:42.480
<v Speaker 1>defense also tried to point out passages in the journals

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<v Speaker 1>where he talked about being sexually abused by a babysitter

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<v Speaker 1>when he was around five and his physical abuse from

1:00:47.680 --> 1:00:50.640
<v Speaker 1>his parents which started around age two, So they tried

1:00:50.640 --> 1:00:52.840
<v Speaker 1>to use that, but the defense also put his sister

1:00:52.920 --> 1:00:56.560
<v Speaker 1>on the stand to confirm like the difficult childhood. But

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<v Speaker 1>then the prosecution just was like, wait, so are you

1:00:58.720 --> 1:01:01.080
<v Speaker 1>a murderer? Are you alive adding citizen, and she was

1:01:01.120 --> 1:01:04.400
<v Speaker 1>like yes, and so it kind of backfired on them,

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<v Speaker 1>and then the jury took fifteen minutes to give him

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<v Speaker 1>the death penalty and he got guess what, he got

1:01:10.520 --> 1:01:13.800
<v Speaker 1>to be on Texas's death row with his hero, Henry

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<v Speaker 1>Lee Lucas, who was a huge serial who's like one

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<v Speaker 1>of the most I think we've talked about him before,

1:01:18.840 --> 1:01:20.800
<v Speaker 1>I can't remember, but he was known as the confession Killer.

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<v Speaker 1>He falsely confessed to approximately six hundred murders, but he

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<v Speaker 1>was convicted of three murders in the that he committed

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<v Speaker 1>between like the sixties and nineteen eighty three. So he

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<v Speaker 1>got to be on death row there in Texas with

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<v Speaker 1>his with his idol. He was executed by lethal injection

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<v Speaker 1>on April third of two thousand and one, eight years

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<v Speaker 1>after the.

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<v Speaker 3>Murders, which is so crazy.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, it's because it's Texas, I'm sure, but like

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<v Speaker 1>we hear all the time about these guys that have

1:01:47.840 --> 1:01:49.520
<v Speaker 1>been on death row for like thirty years, but they

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<v Speaker 1>got this guy in eight years.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't think he probably appealed or had the money.

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<v Speaker 1>Our resources to like, yeah, feely, that's probably true.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Before his execution, he addressed the victims family, saying, I

1:02:02.120 --> 1:02:03.720
<v Speaker 1>can't imagine what I've taken from you.

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<v Speaker 3>I want you to know I did do it.

1:02:05.880 --> 1:02:08.440
<v Speaker 1>I'm sorry for what I've done, And then while he

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<v Speaker 1>was strapped to the gurney, he said, I want you

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<v Speaker 1>to know that Christina did not suffer as much as

1:02:12.960 --> 1:02:14.480
<v Speaker 1>you think she did. I mean, I think at least

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<v Speaker 1>the saving grace in this whole thing is that he

1:02:16.240 --> 1:02:18.440
<v Speaker 1>just shot these people quickly and they probably died very

1:02:18.480 --> 1:02:21.240
<v Speaker 1>quickly and didn't have to they weren't tortured while they

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<v Speaker 1>were alive. He said, I know you guys want to

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<v Speaker 1>know where the rest of her remains are. I put

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<v Speaker 1>the remains in the Trinity River, but the parts were

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<v Speaker 1>never recovered, like I said, And no one really believed

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<v Speaker 1>him because they're like, naw, dog, you keep trophies, like

1:02:32.400 --> 1:02:33.480
<v Speaker 1>we know you keep trophies.

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<v Speaker 3>They think that those body parts.

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<v Speaker 1>Are buried somewhere because he would have wanted to like

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<v Speaker 1>go revisit them at some point. And sometimes, I know,

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<v Speaker 1>we think this is interesting. But his last meal was

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<v Speaker 1>three fried chicken quarters, fried squash, fried eggplant, mashed potatoes,

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<v Speaker 1>snap peas, boiled cabbage, three bits of corn on the

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<v Speaker 1>cob with spinach, broccoli, and butter, and one pint of

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<v Speaker 1>ice cream and a pitcher of sweet tea. So he

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<v Speaker 1>had quite a feast at the end. But it's it's

1:02:59.440 --> 1:03:05.200
<v Speaker 1>wild vegetables. I feel like this guy was sabage. Yeah,

1:03:05.240 --> 1:03:08.919
<v Speaker 1>I know, I know, you're getting cabbage, boiled cabbage. I know. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean this guy though, there's so little about him

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<v Speaker 1>because I feel like what they basically stopped a serial

1:03:15.960 --> 1:03:17.840
<v Speaker 1>killer after his first two kills, like he would have

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<v Speaker 1>absolutely done more. And it's like you said, the animal

1:03:22.480 --> 1:03:25.600
<v Speaker 1>abuse cannot be ignored. That's not just like people kids

1:03:25.640 --> 1:03:31.280
<v Speaker 1>being curious, Like that's really really not good. But maybe

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<v Speaker 1>because he committed these crimes in the nineties and forensics

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<v Speaker 1>were better, like I think a lot of the serial

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<v Speaker 1>killers we hear about her from like sixty seventies eighties,

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<v Speaker 1>where forensics weren't up, and so they were able to

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<v Speaker 1>kill for like years, you know, and have dozens of

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<v Speaker 1>victims before they got caught. With this guy, this Jason

1:03:47.160 --> 1:03:51.360
<v Speaker 1>Massey guy got caught quickly and that's that's the basis

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<v Speaker 1>of Harry.

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<v Speaker 2>We need Harry to come back. Yeah, we need Harry

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<v Speaker 2>back on SVU. I think that would be cool.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, to be like we knew this kid when he

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<v Speaker 1>was young, We knew he was going to do something,

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<v Speaker 1>and then they find out. Yeah, let's write it. Let's

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<v Speaker 1>write it spec but let's get into our post mortem

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<v Speaker 1>because no guest today, just us.

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<v Speaker 3>We're so in the time machine.

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<v Speaker 2>But like Spotify raps, you know, that was like fun

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<v Speaker 2>to be in people's stuff. Oh yes, yes, like you

1:04:25.280 --> 1:04:29.720
<v Speaker 2>guys listening and it feels great and we're usually in

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<v Speaker 2>good company. I feel like the other podcasts in the

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<v Speaker 2>top listens with our listeners are always like people I enjoy.

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<v Speaker 2>So that makes me feel good too, Like you're all

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<v Speaker 2>listening to a lass cultureisas Yes.

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<v Speaker 1>For sure, Thank you guys so much for listening so

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<v Speaker 1>much and get it and then posting your raps.

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<v Speaker 3>I love that.

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<v Speaker 1>I like love seeing all the little the raps and

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<v Speaker 1>what everybody else is listening to. And it's so funny too.

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<v Speaker 1>Sometimes there are people that listened to like all podcasts

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<v Speaker 1>in Portuguese and then like our podcast you know, or

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<v Speaker 1>like they only listen podcast about like business or like

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<v Speaker 1>law school and then us, you know which I like

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<v Speaker 1>to I like to see what people are. We're the

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<v Speaker 1>we're the weird one kind of or we're the funny one.

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<v Speaker 3>But yeah, that was a good one.

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<v Speaker 2>I make say abby, But I guess Spotify like fired

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<v Speaker 2>everyone and it's not like I guess it's AI.

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<v Speaker 1>It's all a that's what I just heard too. I

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<v Speaker 1>was like, someone's like, oh, yeah, that's why. That's why

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<v Speaker 1>the Spotify wrapped was AI this year, and I go,

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<v Speaker 1>I was wondering why it was a little bit more.

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<v Speaker 2>What wasn't because I'm not on Spotify, so I was curious,

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<v Speaker 2>like what's better, what's worse?

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<v Speaker 1>It just wasn't as easy to use as last year.

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<v Speaker 1>Like last year there were these like cool things that

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<v Speaker 1>were like this is how many hours? I mean like

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<v Speaker 1>that's still there, but it wasn't like as easily shareable

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<v Speaker 1>the little pieces of it and like there was more info.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, it's just not as good and it's

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<v Speaker 1>not it's not as good looking either, like it's been

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<v Speaker 1>better looking. And I think they just had an AI do

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<v Speaker 1>it because they got rid of everybody and so they

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<v Speaker 1>can pay Joe Rogan.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like nervous, how shitty everything is going to be,

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<v Speaker 2>Like why do you want all your art? Like anyone

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<v Speaker 2>into AI. It's like so strange and obviously weird. There's

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<v Speaker 2>like places where AI is gonna make the world better,

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<v Speaker 2>like I do want. I'm not, you know, just because

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<v Speaker 2>I it's not for what I want, but like it

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<v Speaker 2>just I don't know what's the point of being alive

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<v Speaker 2>if there's not art, Like I don't get it.

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<v Speaker 1>I know, like and people keep posting stuff that like

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<v Speaker 1>they're googling and they're getting these like really creepy results

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<v Speaker 1>of like little weird like extra hands and things in

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<v Speaker 1>the background. I was I accidentally posted it to That's

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<v Speaker 1>messed up, so it was up there for like twenty

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<v Speaker 1>minutes because I thought I was posting it to my

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<v Speaker 1>own account. But it was like in my Explore page

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<v Speaker 1>was just this video or when I was scrolling just

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<v Speaker 1>this video of John Goodman dancing in the rain to

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<v Speaker 1>JoJo's too little, too late and doing like all these

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<v Speaker 1>like hair movements, like where he's like grabbing his hair

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<v Speaker 1>and he's in the rain, but it's not John Goodman.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like a really creepy AI and every time he

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<v Speaker 1>turns around, the body looks really weird. It's like Uncanny

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<v Speaker 1>Valley and creepy. But it's like, at first it was

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<v Speaker 1>funny because I was like, oh, this is like it's

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<v Speaker 1>John Goodman looking like a pop star. But then it

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<v Speaker 1>was really creepy, so I don't know, I can see

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<v Speaker 1>why it hooks people in, and then.

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<v Speaker 3>It's like, oh, I don't like this anymore. I don't know.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't think it's going anywhere good.

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<v Speaker 1>But I do think it's good if AI helps us

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<v Speaker 1>like detect cancer faster or whatever they're saying it's going

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<v Speaker 1>to do.

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<v Speaker 3>Just not in art, like not in media, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>No, or like for people to be fire like they

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<v Speaker 2>the business people, they just don't care about They don't

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<v Speaker 2>think about the things that truly make life worth living

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<v Speaker 2>and looking at I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>No, because they're all tech companies now and they only

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<v Speaker 1>care about their quarterly reports.

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<v Speaker 3>Like that's just the that's just the fact. Baby.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah yeah, but yeah, this episode Prodigy, I mean, I.

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<v Speaker 3>Mean my one of my bak so good.

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<v Speaker 2>We're like in a stretch of like doing such fun episodes.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean they're all good, but like there's something about

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<v Speaker 2>those classic ones that are suspensable layered and the red

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<v Speaker 2>hairring and this red haring lasted throughout the whole episode.

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<v Speaker 2>I felt like, you know, yes, but like till the hand.

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<v Speaker 1>You didn't really know. And he's gonna commit a crime

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<v Speaker 1>and he's definitely gonna come at a crime and hopefully

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<v Speaker 1>it will be like the real life crime where they

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<v Speaker 1>got him after the first one.

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<v Speaker 3>He might kill his mother.

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<v Speaker 1>He might kill his mother, seriously, like that's very possible,

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<v Speaker 1>very possible. Like they're living in that little house on

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<v Speaker 1>top of each other. I don't I don't think she's

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<v Speaker 1>along for this world, the mom, and she's even like

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<v Speaker 1>she was she's even creeped out by her son. After

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<v Speaker 1>he was saying all that stuff. She had to get

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<v Speaker 1>out of the interior gation room. She's like, get me

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<v Speaker 1>away from this kid. So I don't know, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know what the relationship looks like going forward, but that

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<v Speaker 1>kid is creepy and like, I don't know what happened.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like, well, you fuck you fucked on the couch

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<v Speaker 1>near him, Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You should have invested

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<v Speaker 1>in a door, just a door. You could have found

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<v Speaker 1>a door. That would have been great. The beaded curtain

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<v Speaker 1>has a lot, it has a lot of blame here.

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, this the real crime. Oh so awful. But

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<v Speaker 1>like I'm so glad they caught this, like wanna be

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<v Speaker 1>serial killer, but like after his first one, you know, wait.

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<v Speaker 3>For some reason. You know.

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<v Speaker 2>I just got back from Cincinnati. So I don't think

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<v Speaker 2>I told you what happened on my flight, but I

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<v Speaker 2>feel maybe it's because I've been talking about it so

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<v Speaker 2>much and we've been doing these and recording, and I

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<v Speaker 2>thought I mentioned it, but I told you I got

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<v Speaker 2>to go in the cockpit and stuff or not at all. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>this is what. So I'm on the plane a Cincinnati.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a small plane and usually when a flight slayed,

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<v Speaker 2>we were waiting for crews. So there was like two

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<v Speaker 2>pilots who had to get on our flight to go somewhere.

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<v Speaker 2>So they're like, we're delayed a half hour, and usually

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<v Speaker 2>they tell you not to move, but this pilot was like,

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<v Speaker 2>and if you want to come check out the cockpit

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<v Speaker 2>and take some photos or anything, come on down.

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<v Speaker 3>I obviously I'm the first in line. No one is moving.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like, run to the front and I to sit.

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<v Speaker 2>I got to press the button to make like an

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<v Speaker 2>announcement noise. They kept telling me which buttons I could press.

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<v Speaker 2>I asked all these questions. I sat next to the

1:10:08.640 --> 1:10:12.240
<v Speaker 2>co pilot, but it was like, you know, I've been

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<v Speaker 2>trying to dress better at the airport and for this flight,

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<v Speaker 2>I go, ah, whatever, I don't care. And then I

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<v Speaker 2>was like, I can't believe it, Like this is where

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<v Speaker 2>I could have had cool photos, but I look, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>wearing my giant Incubus shirt.

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<v Speaker 3>But yeah, I got photos.

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<v Speaker 2>I got wings given to me, and a trading card

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<v Speaker 2>and I a Grammic trading card that every plane is

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<v Speaker 2>supposed to have. So now when I'm on different planes,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going to ask for trading cards from the pilots

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<v Speaker 2>and see how many I can collect. But then I

1:10:40.040 --> 1:10:42.320
<v Speaker 2>turned around and the person behind me in line was

1:10:42.439 --> 1:10:45.960
<v Speaker 2>maybe two years old, so it was like me, then

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<v Speaker 2>a child with a mother, and then three like.

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<v Speaker 3>College daye people. It felt like that were sitting in

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<v Speaker 3>the back.

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<v Speaker 1>But look, I got to sit in the cockpit and

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<v Speaker 1>it was really exciting.

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<v Speaker 3>That's so awesome.

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<v Speaker 1>I not as exciting, but I did take Rosie to

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<v Speaker 1>a firehouse over last weekend. Because it was a activity

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<v Speaker 1>for CUB Scouts and so we like these guys gave

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<v Speaker 1>us like a whole presentation, like a guy got his

1:11:09.720 --> 1:11:12.080
<v Speaker 1>gear on as quick as possible, like to show how

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<v Speaker 1>fast he can get all this shit on, like oxygen

1:11:14.160 --> 1:11:17.800
<v Speaker 1>tank everything. They were telling us that, like the fire

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<v Speaker 1>truck always goes out with the ambulance, even if it's

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<v Speaker 1>just cardiac arrest, because it carries more guys with them

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<v Speaker 1>because it might require a lot of guys and they

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<v Speaker 1>can't like all fit in the ambulance. So that's why

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<v Speaker 1>like you'll see a fire truck because they said nationwide.

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<v Speaker 1>I asked this question. I was like, how often are

1:11:34.720 --> 1:11:36.760
<v Speaker 1>you guys like you know? I said, you guys did

1:11:36.800 --> 1:11:39.960
<v Speaker 1>actually take U help me when my son was locked

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<v Speaker 1>in the car as a newborn. The fire department did

1:11:41.880 --> 1:11:44.280
<v Speaker 1>come within minutes, and it was amazing, like how many

1:11:44.320 --> 1:11:46.800
<v Speaker 1>calls are non fire related? And he was like like

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<v Speaker 1>ninety percent, Like the fire Department's going to like ninety

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<v Speaker 1>percent of calls that are Like they got a call

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<v Speaker 1>while we were there, and when they came back, we

1:11:53.720 --> 1:11:55.519
<v Speaker 1>were like what happened? They were like, well, that was

1:11:55.560 --> 1:11:57.479
<v Speaker 1>one of those calls where it shouldn't have been a call.

1:11:57.520 --> 1:11:59.559
<v Speaker 1>It shouldn't have been like it was somebody that had

1:11:59.600 --> 1:12:01.800
<v Speaker 1>leg pains, like and they shouldn't have sent like a

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<v Speaker 1>full you know, like they just needed to go to

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<v Speaker 1>like an urgent care a doctor or something like that.

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<v Speaker 1>And but they were telling us that they got rid

1:12:10.160 --> 1:12:12.400
<v Speaker 1>of like a lot of new firehouses don't have poles

1:12:12.439 --> 1:12:17.320
<v Speaker 1>anymore because firefighters kept hurting themselves, like they kept getting injured,

1:12:17.600 --> 1:12:20.240
<v Speaker 1>like yeah, broke like ankle, twisted ankles and stuff like that.

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<v Speaker 3>So around down the stairs. What do they do now?

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, I guess now they lived on they run

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<v Speaker 1>on the stairs or like it's not yeah, but they

1:12:27.680 --> 1:12:29.320
<v Speaker 1>were like a lot of them. They're like like our

1:12:29.360 --> 1:12:32.080
<v Speaker 1>main firehouse still has a pole, but they're phasing them

1:12:32.080 --> 1:12:33.519
<v Speaker 1>out of a lot of them because of like coating

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<v Speaker 1>and stuff and like because of injuries.

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<v Speaker 3>But it was cute.

1:12:37.000 --> 1:12:39.120
<v Speaker 1>There was like a whole lazy boy area where there

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<v Speaker 1>was all these lazy boys and all the kids were

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<v Speaker 1>like sitting in the la school or a commune comp

1:12:44.120 --> 1:12:47.840
<v Speaker 1>scouting okay, cub Scouts, Yeah, it was it's Rosi's Cub

1:12:47.840 --> 1:12:50.040
<v Speaker 1>Scout troop. Because one of the kids in her Cub

1:12:50.080 --> 1:12:53.200
<v Speaker 1>Scout troop. The cousin is on the is on the

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<v Speaker 1>four So like he gave us like a personal like

1:12:55.439 --> 1:12:57.840
<v Speaker 1>tour of you see you see all their rooms where

1:12:57.880 --> 1:12:59.519
<v Speaker 1>they sleep. I was like saying to my friend, I

1:12:59.520 --> 1:13:00.880
<v Speaker 1>go to you watch Sex and the City, Like, do

1:13:00.920 --> 1:13:03.080
<v Speaker 1>you remember when Samantha hooked up with the firefighter? Like

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<v Speaker 1>this is It was reminding me so much of that.

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, I was so I got to talk about

1:13:07.680 --> 1:13:09.320
<v Speaker 1>fire trucks, so you got to talk about planes.

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<v Speaker 3>We had a real time with planes and trains. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>and we were, you know, four year old boys.

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<v Speaker 1>We yeah, would be out of this world having the

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<v Speaker 1>best time of our lives. But let's move on to

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<v Speaker 1>what would Sister Peg do for this episode this week?

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<v Speaker 3>You know what what was Sister Peg do is where

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<v Speaker 3>we just like to give you.

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<v Speaker 1>Resources that like touch on the issues that we talked

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<v Speaker 1>about in today's episode. And I feel like the poor

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<v Speaker 1>victim in the episode, Prodigy would like us to shout

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<v Speaker 1>out the American Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals,

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<v Speaker 1>which is the ASPCA. This organization has led the way

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<v Speaker 1>in fighting cruelty, rescuing, and securing adoptions for animals in

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<v Speaker 1>need and driving significant legislative change that protects their lives

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<v Speaker 1>and welfare, ultimately transforming how Americans value and care for animals,

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<v Speaker 1>because I know we were both shocked that this episode

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<v Speaker 1>is that there's barely any punishment for abusing animals, so

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sure this organization is working on legislation to reverse

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<v Speaker 1>that or to make that better. If you'd like to

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<v Speaker 1>report animal abuse or donate to the foundation, visit ASPCA

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<v Speaker 2>Amazing, And next week we will be doing Lust from

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