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Speaker 2: You're listening to Eyes up here with ECW's one and

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Speaker 2: only Queen of Extreme Francy, only on iHeartRadio.

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Speaker 3: What did you think about the faithancy double, our second

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Speaker 3: our second chance is going to speak when we all

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Speaker 3: we all go back in two thousand and five, we

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Speaker 3: do one night stand, right, I go into it as

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Speaker 3: one and done. I'm thinking this is just a one

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Speaker 3: time thing. It's never going to be anything. And then

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Speaker 3: a year later we all get these phone calls. What

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Speaker 3: was in your head? Did you think this was going

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Speaker 3: to be successful? Because I had one hundred doll and

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Speaker 3: I didn't even want to sign that contract. To be

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Speaker 2: You, well, I you know, for me, I was already there,

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Speaker 2: so I was. And now it's two thousand and six.

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Speaker 2: I was asking two thousand and two.

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Speaker 3: Right now, I'm talking about crossing over like as the

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Speaker 3: in your head about that?

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Speaker 2: Well, that's that's why, That's what I'm trying. That's what

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Speaker 2: I'm trying to say. I was. It was different for

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Speaker 2: me because I was already in the company. Bringing back

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Speaker 2: brought a lot of people with hope, Like you didn't

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Speaker 2: or Chuck and Johnny, and then I did the whole

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Speaker 2: Cruiserweight thing, you know, So it was I was happy

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Speaker 2: getting lost on SmackDown doing a lot of velocity then

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Speaker 2: that it wasn't nothing for me. So even though I

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Speaker 2: I think, So I was hoping it was gonna work.

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Speaker 2: And then you were also playing off the Hammerstein Ballroom

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Speaker 2: when the one night stand, so that was that that

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Speaker 2: ended up being great and Vins like that, and that

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Speaker 2: stand that night, and then then it went on and

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Speaker 2: then you know, then we started we first started doing

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Speaker 2: in like these small venues like three four hundred people.

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Speaker 2: You know, it wasn't like you arrested with WW and

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Speaker 2: for the really feel like uh you know, and you are,

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Speaker 2: you are making less money at that time. So but

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Speaker 2: instead of losing the joy, we kind of took a

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Speaker 2: pay cut. You know, the minimum pay wasn't this anymore,

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Speaker 2: you know whatever it was. So so you did you

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Speaker 2: did lose a little bit there and then and then

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Speaker 2: they ended up putting it with Live at ten o'clock

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Speaker 2: at night. Remember that.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we were snackdown, so SmackDown with tape and and

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Speaker 2: Yeah there would be so many yes, then there'll be

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Speaker 2: so many shows and it's like, you know, it was

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Speaker 2: crowd's dead. You know, it's ten o'clock at night. They're

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Speaker 2: and the darks match started at seven point fifteen or

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Speaker 2: seven ten. Yeah, they're going on ten o'clock live. After

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it was a long day for sure. I just

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Speaker 3: you know, I remember like Dreamer calling me and pitching

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Speaker 3: but he what he pitched me never happened. They want

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Speaker 2: I was going to work, but I was different too

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Speaker 2: because I was there and I heard a lot more

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Speaker 3: You know, I think we all were hopeful, but it

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Speaker 2: Yeah, as the time went on. Definitely, I'm talking about

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Speaker 2: I'm not saying once we got going, Yeah, we were

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Speaker 2: It just kept getting worse and worse. So yes, so yeah,

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Speaker 2: You know, you just saw the writing on the wall

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Speaker 3: Yeah. I know. The rumor for me, I was supposed

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Speaker 3: they said I was pairing me with Test that was

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Speaker 3: supposed to be like this one thing. Me and Test

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Speaker 3: were supposed to be like this big heel tag, the

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Speaker 3: big Heel team, you know, and uh, that never happened.

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Speaker 3: And then I had nobody. They were like, we don't

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Speaker 3: me with Balls. And then remember the drug testing came

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Speaker 3: and then Balls had drugs and Balls had drugs in

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Speaker 2: I was like I don't want to right right right?

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Speaker 3: It was terrible, you know, and I'm too old for

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Speaker 2: I mean, I didn't know balls. I didn't know that.

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Speaker 2: I don't know did he get fired for that?

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Speaker 3: He got they got suspended. I don't know if he

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Speaker 3: my contract. Oh, because I was going to Johnny like

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Speaker 3: every week saying, can you send me home? I don't

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Speaker 3: He's like, no, no, You're not going home. And I

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Speaker 3: Like how many times can you pitch something and nobody listens? Right?

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Speaker 2: Right? You know what I mean.

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Speaker 3: I just got tired of it. Then every week I'm

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well that's time. I mean, nobody could be as

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Speaker 2: time was going on. You know, I did not close

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Speaker 2: two thousand and eight to close.

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Speaker 3: I was going in two thousand and six, right after

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Speaker 2: Know it was still going in seven and A you

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I think it was around two thousand and

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Speaker 4: ten eleven, because they carried it for like another ye

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Speaker 4: They still carried it as a third brand, but it

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Speaker 2: Right right, right, right, Yeah. So I was gone by

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Speaker 3: Eight, okay, oh a lot. Yeah. Another rumor I heard

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Speaker 3: is Shane McMahon was supposed to be in charge of

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Speaker 3: ECW and Vince Vince told me to my face, he goes,

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Speaker 3: I don't know anything about ECW. This is what Vince

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Speaker 3: McMahon told me. And I go to him, but you

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Speaker 3: have our tape library and he goes, I don't watch it.

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Speaker 3: I have people like, excuse me, sir, you know, so.

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Speaker 2: He probably does.

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Speaker 3: Oh of course he does, but I, you know, I

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Speaker 3: what's that I think he watched it too.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he might have. I don't know. This is what

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Speaker 3: feel like if maybe if Shane was in charge of

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Speaker 2: I think very possible because him and and Tom would

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Speaker 2: I think that's what happened. They just put the the

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Speaker 2: same thing. I'm glad it got right.

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Speaker 3: Well yeah, you never know unless you try. But it

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Speaker 3: was just a huge letdown and it's it's it's so

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Speaker 3: sad because what could have been. And I say the

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Speaker 3: same thing with our company, like we you know, in

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Speaker 3: two thousand and one, all of us who stayed with that,

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Speaker 3: We were all at our prime. Yeah, we could have

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Speaker 3: there was so much more to do. And I look

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Speaker 3: I'm just like, there was so much more to give,

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Speaker 3: and it's such a shame.

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Speaker 2: Well, a lot of guys at careers ended early there,

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Speaker 2: you know a lot of guys and early because everybody

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Speaker 2: I didn't get picked up right away either. I was

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Speaker 2: that closed in two thousand. I didn't go there till

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Speaker 2: two thousand and two. That's two years. Does seem like

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Speaker 2: a long time, but it is when you're sitting around

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Speaker 2: doing indies, waiting to go, and you know, you see

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Speaker 2: all your friends going. And I was never a top

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Speaker 2: level town. So you know when EA CW closed and

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Speaker 2: that WW is picking up their contracts. But you know

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Speaker 2: they're not looking at guys like me and certain other

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Speaker 2: guys at that time. You know, I had to wait

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Speaker 2: for them to get all like weeded out a couple

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Speaker 2: of years, and you know, all this stuff happened and

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Speaker 2: people coming and going, and eventually that's how I got in.

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Speaker 3: So you mentioning all this, do you initially send out

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Speaker 3: feelers like hey, I'm I'm available, because like I didn't

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Speaker 3: Yeah, because I think I had three shirts, and I

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Speaker 3: Next thing, let me ask you this. Do you remember

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Speaker 2: I remember well. I used when we use fake names,

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Speaker 2: I used to use all different ones so I would

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Speaker 2: I could be Harvey, I could be It was like,

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Speaker 2: they don't. I just would never keep the same name. Okay, yeah,

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Speaker 2: we're just introducing yourself. You would never just say, you know,

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Speaker 2: We used we pop yeah, yeah, very little yeah. Crazy

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Speaker 2: The way we used to do it is, you know,

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Speaker 2: Dreamer lived in uh in Yonkers. Paul lived in scars there.

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Speaker 2: I lived in Rockland. Now I'm always a nervous rack.

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Speaker 2: I always want to get to the air the airport

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Speaker 3: Wait to hold that thought. That's the one thing that

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Speaker 2: I always just wanted to get there. I don't I

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Speaker 2: don't want to do last minute where you got to

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Speaker 2: to Tom's house. I used to leave my car there and

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Speaker 2: now it's getting close, and we all would always cut

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Speaker 2: But it's just like I always wanted to get there,

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Speaker 2: fucking us back. Tom, we're gonna miss the plane. We're

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Speaker 2: gonna miss the plant. He's like, relax world, Like we

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Speaker 2: we go Oh my god, that's hilarious and that was

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's so funny. Do you do you have anything

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Speaker 3: coming up that you want to plug?

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Speaker 2: Well, you got my U I plugged my Instagram non

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Speaker 2: g o one, just last Wido wuido on just last

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Speaker 2: If you go to my Instagram you'll see it this Thursday,

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Speaker 2: Hammers Time Bori Room on Sunday. And then January twenty fifth,

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Speaker 3: Are you doing the May show at the Arena, the

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Speaker 3: TWA show?

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Speaker 2: No, no, I heard about that.

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Speaker 3: No, no, not yet anyway.

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Speaker 2: Not well not yet? Yeah? When is that why they

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Speaker 2: got my book read here?

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Speaker 3: May? I don't know, May third maybe or May eighth,

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Speaker 3: something like that.

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Speaker 2: May third is Saturday, Yeah that's what it is. Then

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Speaker 2: May third, No, okay, I keep my years from going

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Speaker 2: on making my return in Italy. We were talking about

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Speaker 2: that earlier. March twenty May twenty fourth you're wrestling there.

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Speaker 2: Yeah we got yeah, yeah, yeah, they were. They were

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Speaker 2: trying to do it for a while. It's a long

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Speaker 2: flight to be doing again. That's it's a little lengthy

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Speaker 2: for me. But no, go back to Italy. It's not long.

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Speaker 2: Just the day one show. But who work I got

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Speaker 2: the name of it. Oh, I don't know I'm working against.

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Speaker 3: Oh okay, okay, yes, I don't know who.

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Speaker 2: I'm working against. Yeah. Yeah, we got back that that

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Speaker 2: we're doing that in May, so.

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Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, yeah, all right, Well this was a pleasure.

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Speaker 3: I've been wanting to get you on the show for

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Speaker 3: a long time, and I kind of cornered you and

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Speaker 3: Extine forced you to come once for I don't I

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Speaker 3: don't know why. No, No, you're You've always been one

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Speaker 3: of my favorites. You're You've always been so easy to

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Speaker 2: Only when like you managed Tom for a while, like

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Speaker 3: No, I mean, I I don't recall being in the

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Speaker 2: Twice, Yeah, I remember, yeah, because I remember we I

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Speaker 3: Yeah, they would do with Shane at that time.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you would, Shane. Yeah maybe we haven't, Maybe

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Speaker 3: It was very very rare.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you were. You guys were always.

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Speaker 3: The ones that I kind of wanted to work with

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Speaker 3: because I loved the dance offs, I loved the like

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Speaker 3: the you know, the where's my pizza chance like, it

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Speaker 3: was just you guys.

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Speaker 2: We never worked with any of the guys you managed, though.

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Speaker 2: It would be hard for us to because I never

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Speaker 3: Bam Bam or Chris or oh.

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Speaker 2: I never did Bamman. Chris, Kristin Lance were together, but

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Speaker 2: wrestled Lance and Chris Candido a lot. Okay, yeah, I

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Speaker 2: did Chris Candido a lot. But then when he moved

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Speaker 2: on to with the you know, with Bam Bam and

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Speaker 2: what do he called, then I didn't work with him

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Speaker 2: that much. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's the one thing, because I was like I

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Speaker 3: always especially when you were with JT, because JT trained me. Okay, yeah,

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Speaker 3: he trained me, and I never got to work with

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Speaker 3: him either, and I aways thought it would have been

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Speaker 3: fun if I could have worked like against you guys.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, yeah, oh well.

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Speaker 3: Friendship, what's that?

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Speaker 2: You never know? It's never too Oh my god.

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Speaker 3: Okay, Well, I forgot to tell you I'm booked in

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Speaker 3: Italy too, so.

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Speaker 2: That'd be a perfect place.

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Speaker 3: I'm not, I'm not, but listen, I'm sure I'll talk

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Speaker 3: to you again.

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Speaker 2: You have the same process.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, thank you for coming on. Love you so much.

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Speaker 3: I hope we're booked somewhere soon. I don't know where,

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Speaker 3: but I'll keep my ears open and I'll let you know.

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Speaker 2: We'll see you guys soon.

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Speaker 3: Take care of you all. He's hilarious. Now can I

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Speaker 3: say something? I told him at five point thirty storry

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Speaker 3: and he goes, oh my god, I just got here

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Speaker 3: for work. I'm I don't know, I don't know one

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Speaker 3: off the top of my head. I said, you have

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Speaker 3: approximately a half hour. It's brainstorm and he came up

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Speaker 3: with nothing, no story, long day of work, one day,

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Speaker 3: long day. He's a doll, he's a dollar, he's a

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Speaker 3: good guy. Really enjoy him and he's he's one of

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Speaker 3: the good ones. So I was happy to get him

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Speaker 3: on and he is a nervous nelly like that was

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Speaker 3: his like his not nickname, but like everybody said, oh

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Speaker 3: my god, Guido's like a nervous wreck. That's all anybody

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Speaker 3: ever said about Guido, because he was always like, what's

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Speaker 3: going on? What do we doing? Blah blah blahlah.

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Speaker 4: He was always like, that's so funny.

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Speaker 3: Oh I'm nervous too. I'm not gonna lie, but he's

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Speaker 3: just like super duper nervous. Like you heard him with

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Speaker 3: the with the airplane, right, but I mean you you

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Speaker 3: couldn't find a guy with a better work ethic and

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Speaker 3: more talented than him Lake. Yeah, and he can still

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Speaker 3: go now in his fifties, so looks great, works great,

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Speaker 3: he's he's a good friend and I'm glad we had

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Speaker 3: him on. So everybody go follow him and uh support

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Speaker 3: support like GCW.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and go to Italy and may go.

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Speaker 3: To Italy and cheering one when he's in Italy too,

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Speaker 3: whereas we like say Italy Italy, yes, yes, my homeland, well,

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Speaker 3: my mom's homeland. Go to Italy Italy. Yes, anyway, that

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Speaker 3: was fun absolutely. Well, you know I don't have anything

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Speaker 3: going on, do you? No plugs except for our YouTube.

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Speaker 2: Channel, YouTube yep YouTube is.

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Speaker 3: Uh again, try in our hardest and let me just

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Speaker 3: tell you how many people which thank you for all

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Speaker 3: of the people who comment on our videos. You are

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Speaker 3: the kindest, nicest group of fans that anybody can ever have.

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Speaker 3: Let me just state that I answer every comment myself.

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Speaker 3: It is me, I like the people, right, this isn't

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Speaker 3: really hair, not me, this isn't the Francis. I'm like,

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Speaker 3: it's my channel. It's me. I'm answering everything. And you

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Speaker 3: guys are so super sweet and I appreciate you, you know,

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Speaker 3: watching and liking and commenting and subscribing. We're doing all

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Speaker 3: of this so organically. We're not using any bots. We're

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Speaker 3: not using any I don't even know what they're called. Like,

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Speaker 3: is that what it's called. Like, we're not using any

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Speaker 3: of that stuff. It's like I tweet, I post on IG,

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Speaker 3: I post on my socials, like, please subscribe, That's all

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Speaker 3: I do. We don't have any machines helping us get

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Speaker 3: extra subscribers. Maybe that's why it's taking so long for us.

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Speaker 3: I don't know. But if you are a watcher of

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Speaker 3: our channel and you're not subscribed, please go ahead and subscribe.

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Speaker 3: And it's the same with this podcast. If you're a

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Speaker 3: listener and you listen on iHeart, follow me on there,

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Speaker 3: if you're listening on Spotify or Apple, subscribe on there.

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Speaker 3: It's free, it doesn't cost a dime, and it's going

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Speaker 3: to be easy. All you have to do is click

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Speaker 3: the little button and you're good to go. I can't

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Speaker 3: say any more than that, you know. So ECW DVA

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Speaker 3: frean scene exclamation point on YouTube and Eyes up Here

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Speaker 3: with fran scene for the podcast.

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Speaker 2: That's it, So get at it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, where can they find you on socials if they

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Speaker 3: want to?

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Speaker 4: At Chatty and b on x at ib exclusives on Instagram.

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Speaker 4: All the Eyes up Here content is also on my Instagram.

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Speaker 4: And you know what for your tiktoking pleasure, while you.

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Speaker 3: Can Yeah, well, I was going to say, is that over?

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Speaker 4: While you can TikTok while you can at ECW franccene podcast.

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Speaker 3: Okay, Well, across the board on social media, you can

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Speaker 3: find me at e c W DVA. Francine. I hope

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Speaker 3: you're staying safe. I hope you're staying healthy and most

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Speaker 3: of all, I hope you're a saying extreme.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, oh, Francine, franc Queen Extreme Extreme. Odds up ahead,

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Speaker 1: head head The Queen Extreme Podcast.

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Speaker 2: Odds up here.

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Speaker 1: Hey, it's the Queen Extreme Podcast. It's the Queen of

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Speaker 3: You understand.

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Speaker 1: The Queens from the Beginning of Time. Odds here our

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Speaker 1: Heart Radio shine only ahead and tell you a story

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