WEBVTT - Dying Democracy 0:00:11.840 --> 0:00:14.480 Good morning, peeps, and welcome to wikay F Daily with 0:00:14.600 --> 0:00:18.960 Meet your Girl Danielle Moody, recording from the Brooklyn Bunker. Folks, 0:00:19.120 --> 0:00:23.920 Yesterday was day two of the Insurrection one six House 0:00:24.040 --> 0:00:28.160 Commission hearings. And what we learned from the jump from 0:00:28.240 --> 0:00:31.480 Liz Cheney, who props to her for basically calling Rudy 0:00:31.520 --> 0:00:35.920 Giuliani a drunk is this We learned several things from 0:00:36.360 --> 0:00:40.360 video testimony and then live testimony of people who were 0:00:40.800 --> 0:00:44.840 in Trump's inner circle. From a former Fox News executive 0:00:44.960 --> 0:00:47.520 who was in the room when they decided to make 0:00:47.560 --> 0:00:51.560 the call for Arizona based on all of their findings 0:00:51.560 --> 0:00:55.560 and saying that they knew that Donald Trump lost the election. 0:00:55.760 --> 0:00:58.160 They knew it then they said it, and they had 0:00:58.200 --> 0:01:00.440 no idea that it was going to cause such a fury. 0:01:00.520 --> 0:01:03.840 But the facts were the facts that they had posters 0:01:03.880 --> 0:01:06.720 that were working that were both Democrat and Republican and 0:01:06.800 --> 0:01:09.640 academics and all of these people, and they knew Arizona 0:01:09.720 --> 0:01:14.520 was called. Then you have you know, other folks who 0:01:14.920 --> 0:01:18.880 spoke to the fact that they also the night of 0:01:18.880 --> 0:01:21.640 the election, what was the mood? What do you understand? 0:01:21.920 --> 0:01:26.240 They understood that the election had been called and that 0:01:26.360 --> 0:01:29.360 based on the states that everyone had been tracking that 0:01:29.400 --> 0:01:32.640 Donald Trump lost the election. You heard that from Bill Barr, 0:01:32.720 --> 0:01:35.320 You hear it from Ivanka Trump. You hear it from 0:01:35.400 --> 0:01:38.560 all of the inner circle. You hear it from x 0:01:38.560 --> 0:01:43.640 Fox News executives. You hear it from the state attorney 0:01:43.680 --> 0:01:49.200 general from Georgia. You hear it from everywhere. The purpose 0:01:49.280 --> 0:01:51.960 of this right, the purpose of the way that this 0:01:52.160 --> 0:01:55.040 hearing is being laid out and day and day two 0:01:56.160 --> 0:02:01.200 is this. It is to show that Donald Trump knew 0:02:02.280 --> 0:02:06.600 that he lost the election, but that instead he decided 0:02:06.640 --> 0:02:10.880 to perpetrate a lie which, according to many reports from 0:02:11.040 --> 0:02:15.320 the One six Committee and NPR and others, he was 0:02:15.360 --> 0:02:19.240 able to grift get this, folks, a quarter of a 0:02:19.320 --> 0:02:23.480 billion fucking dollars on his stop the Steel, help us 0:02:23.520 --> 0:02:28.639 Stop the Steel two hundred and fifty million dollars he 0:02:28.720 --> 0:02:32.720 was able to bring in between the election right in 0:02:32.840 --> 0:02:38.360 November and like January sixth, that is extraordinary. You have 0:02:38.400 --> 0:02:44.359 Donald Trump Junior's girlfriend, Gilfoyle, who has paid sixty thousand 0:02:44.480 --> 0:02:49.440 dollars for her handful of minute introduction to Donald Trump 0:02:49.520 --> 0:02:52.880 at this quote unquote stop the Steel rally, folks. The 0:02:52.960 --> 0:02:55.160 way that this is being laid out. Is what we've 0:02:55.200 --> 0:02:59.360 always known. Donald Trump is a fucking grifter. He's a 0:02:59.400 --> 0:03:03.680 fucking criminal, right. Even his own people they were willing to, 0:03:03.760 --> 0:03:06.880 you know, keep it going. But then once logic set in, 0:03:07.000 --> 0:03:11.040 they were like, yeah, so you lost, Like we got 0:03:11.040 --> 0:03:14.920 to move forward. And Donald Trump kept bringing up to 0:03:14.960 --> 0:03:17.480 the Department of Justice, who he was using as his 0:03:17.600 --> 0:03:21.120 personal law firm, here are all of the ways that 0:03:21.280 --> 0:03:24.799 we should be tackling this quote unquote steal. And when 0:03:25.960 --> 0:03:28.919 Bill Barr, who we all know is a fucking liar, 0:03:28.919 --> 0:03:30.920 who we all know is a criminal and should be 0:03:30.960 --> 0:03:34.720 indicted for his offenses against the American people, and in 0:03:34.880 --> 0:03:39.880 collusion with this White House, when he's the one that says, yeah, 0:03:39.960 --> 0:03:43.800 so this is all bullshit, Like, then you know that 0:03:43.960 --> 0:03:46.840 you have literally jumped the shark. The other way to 0:03:46.920 --> 0:03:49.640 know that you've jumped the shark is when you've decided 0:03:49.920 --> 0:03:54.760 that the person who you're taking advice from is shit faced. 0:03:56.000 --> 0:04:01.200 Everyone who was interviewed who was in the White House 0:04:01.600 --> 0:04:04.880 on the day of the election has testified to the 0:04:04.920 --> 0:04:08.840 fact that Rudy Giuliani was half in the fucking bag, 0:04:09.320 --> 0:04:12.720 but yet it wasn't. All the other paid advisors and 0:04:12.880 --> 0:04:16.320 polsters and folks that Donald Trump was listening to. He 0:04:16.400 --> 0:04:21.120 was listening to the one drunk right who is Loizidou saying, Oh, 0:04:21.160 --> 0:04:24.479 we can make this up in a recount. You had 0:04:24.560 --> 0:04:27.240 several people testify to the fact that when we are 0:04:27.240 --> 0:04:30.880 talking about recounts, and the biggest recount being the two 0:04:30.920 --> 0:04:33.920 thousand election, when we allowed the Supreme Court of these 0:04:34.120 --> 0:04:37.800 United States to decide the fucking election, you were talking 0:04:37.800 --> 0:04:40.840 about a margin of five hundred and eighty seven votes 0:04:41.839 --> 0:04:46.120 Donald Trump. In the states that were being hotly contested, 0:04:46.520 --> 0:04:51.200 you were talking about at minimum ten thousand votes. You 0:04:51.360 --> 0:04:55.280 do not make that up in a fucking recount. So 0:04:56.240 --> 0:04:58.719 what are we looking at in the big big picture 0:04:58.839 --> 0:05:01.159 when we're trying to see Donald Trump in an orange 0:05:01.240 --> 0:05:06.200 jumpsuit to match his orange face. We are looking at intent? Right? 0:05:06.360 --> 0:05:10.040 Did Donald Trump intent to defraud the people? Was Donald 0:05:10.040 --> 0:05:14.680 Trump aware right that he had lost the election? Because 0:05:14.720 --> 0:05:18.320 the only defense has been laid out by a number 0:05:18.360 --> 0:05:21.960 of lawyers on cable news. The only defense that Donald 0:05:22.000 --> 0:05:25.919 Trump's lawyers really have is to say that he believed 0:05:26.480 --> 0:05:29.520 that he didn't lose the election, and so he was 0:05:29.600 --> 0:05:32.760 going to do everything in its power well, when everyone 0:05:33.440 --> 0:05:37.920 inside of your inner circle has testified to the contrary, 0:05:38.000 --> 0:05:41.080 not only did they tell you, they told you that 0:05:41.120 --> 0:05:43.960 what you were scheming to do was in fact that 0:05:44.400 --> 0:05:49.359 crazy and a scheme. So what pisces me off, though, 0:05:49.600 --> 0:05:54.600 is that you have now these Trumpers right who wanted 0:05:54.640 --> 0:05:59.480 to create this distinction on the inside between the kooks 0:06:00.120 --> 0:06:04.920 of Rudy Giuliani and then everybody else. But the thing 0:06:05.120 --> 0:06:08.560 is is that they were all aboard the insurrection train. 0:06:11.080 --> 0:06:14.440 Donald Trump had been talking about this election being stolen 0:06:14.760 --> 0:06:18.240 well before the Stop the Steel rally, ahead of our 0:06:18.279 --> 0:06:21.679 capital going up in smoke. He started making those claims 0:06:21.720 --> 0:06:26.479 before the election in fucking August. Oh, the only way 0:06:26.480 --> 0:06:30.000 that we lose is if is if the election is stolen. 0:06:30.080 --> 0:06:32.120 The only way that we lose is if the election 0:06:32.200 --> 0:06:35.479 is stolen. No, the only way that you lose is 0:06:35.480 --> 0:06:38.279 if the American people decided that they want off the 0:06:38.360 --> 0:06:41.720 Trump fucking crazy train and they want some type of 0:06:41.800 --> 0:06:49.039 return to a normalcy. So I personally think right now 0:06:49.200 --> 0:06:54.320 after watching day two, that this committee is doing exactly 0:06:54.360 --> 0:06:57.640 what it needs to be doing. My only critique is 0:06:57.680 --> 0:07:01.880 that every single hearing, every single public hearing, should be 0:07:01.920 --> 0:07:04.680 happening in prime time. There should be no hearing that 0:07:04.760 --> 0:07:07.039 is happening at ten o'clock in the morning, when the 0:07:07.080 --> 0:07:10.360 American people are at work. Every single hearing should be 0:07:10.400 --> 0:07:15.920 happening at seven pm, from seven to ten, every you know, 0:07:16.080 --> 0:07:19.040 for every single one, because that is when you know 0:07:19.080 --> 0:07:21.600 that people are home, when they have finished dinner or 0:07:21.760 --> 0:07:25.240 they're making dinner, and they're watching what's going on. Right, 0:07:25.680 --> 0:07:30.960 We need eyeballs, We need people to recognize that not 0:07:31.120 --> 0:07:38.440 only did this grifting ass criminal president No No, that 0:07:38.640 --> 0:07:41.960 he was lying, He whipped these people up into a 0:07:42.000 --> 0:07:45.640 frenzy to tell them that if they were really patriots, 0:07:45.800 --> 0:07:48.040 that they would go and take their country back by 0:07:48.080 --> 0:07:52.880 any means necessary. So he knowingly put his own base 0:07:53.280 --> 0:07:58.480 in harm's way to square up against the police. Not 0:07:58.520 --> 0:08:02.480 only that, but from the previous day one of the hearings, 0:08:02.520 --> 0:08:05.840 what did we learn that Donald Trump was nowhere to 0:08:05.920 --> 0:08:09.440 be found, and that his own chief of staff was 0:08:09.560 --> 0:08:14.800 trying to change the outside perception that he wasn't in 0:08:14.920 --> 0:08:17.160 charge of the White House or of a country, and 0:08:17.240 --> 0:08:20.480 that it was really Mike Pence talking about to General Millie, 0:08:20.560 --> 0:08:25.720 we got to change the narrative, said Meadows. I'm pretty 0:08:25.760 --> 0:08:30.280 sure that it wasn't politics that was leading that moment. 0:08:30.360 --> 0:08:33.720 It was more so, Oh my god, the capital is 0:08:33.760 --> 0:08:37.000 being overthrown and people are trying to overthrow our democracy. 0:08:37.080 --> 0:08:39.480 That's what I think a general would be paying attention to. 0:08:39.840 --> 0:08:43.400 But what do I know. What we also found out 0:08:43.559 --> 0:08:48.440 yesterday is that in a pressor that the absentee Attorney 0:08:48.480 --> 0:08:51.800 General was giving and by absentee Attorney General of course, 0:08:51.840 --> 0:08:55.760 referring to sleep at the wheel Merrit Garland, that he is. Indeed, 0:08:55.760 --> 0:08:58.800 he was asked by a reporter, are you watching right 0:08:58.880 --> 0:09:02.600 our folks watching these hearings, and he said, I am 0:09:02.640 --> 0:09:07.040 absolutely watching the hearings, as are the prosecutors at the 0:09:07.240 --> 0:09:11.200 Department of Justice. Well that was a good sign, because 0:09:11.240 --> 0:09:14.160 you've had this committee do all the fucking hardlifting for you, 0:09:14.520 --> 0:09:17.439 all of the heavy lifting. So maybe maybe that is 0:09:17.480 --> 0:09:20.040 a glimpse into the fact that we will, at some 0:09:20.120 --> 0:09:23.560 point in time, god willing, be moving forward with a 0:09:23.679 --> 0:09:26.679 slew of indictments that Glenn Kirshner and I have been 0:09:26.720 --> 0:09:29.319 talking about on woke F for the last year and 0:09:29.360 --> 0:09:33.240 a half. Folks, I gotta tell you, you know, somebody 0:09:33.280 --> 0:09:38.839 asked me yesterday if I was encouraged, right because they 0:09:38.920 --> 0:09:41.640 wanted to have cautious optimism, and they're like, are you 0:09:41.800 --> 0:09:46.840 encouraged by what you are seeing and hearing? And it's like, well, 0:09:47.240 --> 0:09:51.920 do I have hope? Not really, because this country continues 0:09:51.960 --> 0:09:55.400 to show its ass on a regular fucking basis. So 0:09:55.480 --> 0:09:58.120 do I have hope that this doesn't just turn into 0:09:58.280 --> 0:10:01.520 primetime entertainment and that by the time that we get 0:10:01.520 --> 0:10:04.880 to election midterm elections, that it's just one big nothing burger. 0:10:05.120 --> 0:10:07.600 I have no idea. I am ye of little faith. 0:10:07.920 --> 0:10:10.720 I want to be proven wrong. I do not want 0:10:10.760 --> 0:10:13.560 to be proven right in this instance. I want to 0:10:13.600 --> 0:10:16.160 be proven wrong. I want the Department of Justice to 0:10:16.200 --> 0:10:20.280 come out with guns blazing. I want the Democrats to 0:10:20.320 --> 0:10:22.839 get their shit together and realize that if they are 0:10:22.880 --> 0:10:27.440 not messaging about who this opposition party really is and 0:10:27.559 --> 0:10:30.160 what they have been attempting to do and what they 0:10:30.200 --> 0:10:32.640 continue to do at the state and local level, if 0:10:32.640 --> 0:10:36.080 they are not making this clear distinction, we're gonna fucking lose. 0:10:37.280 --> 0:10:40.760 It isn't it doesn't have to be inevitable, but if 0:10:40.760 --> 0:10:44.880 Democrats don't at least pretend to try, then that is 0:10:44.920 --> 0:10:49.280 where this is going to end up, You know it is. 0:10:50.320 --> 0:10:52.240 I gotta tell you the other thing, and let me 0:10:52.280 --> 0:10:56.880 make this transition real quick between our slow moving coup 0:10:56.880 --> 0:10:59.960 and our dying democracy and other things that I'm noticed. 0:11:00.080 --> 0:11:05.200 Sing I tweeted this yesterday, folks. I went on Amazon because, 0:11:05.240 --> 0:11:09.160 as we are all seeing, following the baby formula shortage, 0:11:09.200 --> 0:11:13.440 there's another production shortage tampons right which, by the way, 0:11:13.640 --> 0:11:16.520 according to CNN and other news reports, are up ten 0:11:16.559 --> 0:11:21.439 percent in price, as is fucking everything because inflation. There's 0:11:21.440 --> 0:11:25.840 a tampons shortage. So my mother says to me yesterday, Danielle, 0:11:25.920 --> 0:11:27.800 I think that you need to start just like just 0:11:27.960 --> 0:11:30.439 start buying, like when you're out and about, which I'm 0:11:30.440 --> 0:11:32.280 not really out and about because them in a boot. 0:11:32.320 --> 0:11:34.680 But when you're out or you know, looking on Amazon 0:11:34.720 --> 0:11:37.080 and doing your orders, make sure to put in an 0:11:37.160 --> 0:11:41.600 order for tampons. So I decided, they said, okay, let 0:11:41.600 --> 0:11:44.600 me go ahead and do that. I bought two boxes 0:11:44.640 --> 0:11:49.400 of tampons. Each box has supposedly ninety six tampons in them, right, 0:11:50.679 --> 0:11:55.320 for seventy eight dollars, essentially eighty dollars when it all 0:11:55.400 --> 0:11:59.280 comes around, it up eighty dollars. Now, I have wonderful 0:11:59.320 --> 0:12:02.160 people on two who were sending me links at Walmart 0:12:02.200 --> 0:12:05.319 and other places for tampons that are not that expensive. 0:12:05.360 --> 0:12:08.040 But other folks are saying, yeah, I've seen the price 0:12:08.080 --> 0:12:12.600 gouging happening already, and this is not great. What kind 0:12:12.600 --> 0:12:15.800 of fucking country are we living in right now where 0:12:16.040 --> 0:12:19.640 we can't get baby formula or tampons and everybody wants 0:12:19.640 --> 0:12:21.680 to talk about, Oh, it's a supply chain issue, and 0:12:21.720 --> 0:12:24.600 I'm like, is it really? Did we not fucking learn 0:12:24.679 --> 0:12:28.120 anything during COVID that this interdependence that we have on 0:12:28.240 --> 0:12:31.439 other countries, that maybe we should start figuring out how 0:12:31.480 --> 0:12:36.160 to have production in this country. Right, Since Republicans wanted 0:12:36.200 --> 0:12:40.360 to sign away you know, corporation's ability, right so that 0:12:40.440 --> 0:12:43.040 they get all the tax breaks and have all the fucking, 0:12:43.440 --> 0:12:47.000 you know, safe harvards for their money overseas, we don't 0:12:47.040 --> 0:12:49.559 have fucking production in the way that we used to 0:12:49.679 --> 0:12:53.240 in this country, right, And that has nothing to do 0:12:53.320 --> 0:12:55.200 with as the Republicans would love to tell you, Oh, 0:12:55.280 --> 0:12:58.240 people coming in and not wanting to work or stealing jobs. No, 0:12:58.720 --> 0:13:03.520 they gave corporations tax breaks to take their businesses elsewhere. 0:13:04.160 --> 0:13:07.640 That's what fucking happened. That's why we're in the predicament 0:13:07.679 --> 0:13:11.400 that we're in, and that's why we are basically doing 0:13:11.440 --> 0:13:15.480 a fucking nose dive into being a developing fucking nation. 0:13:15.800 --> 0:13:19.000 I'm paying eighty dollars or tampons and hoping what that 0:13:19.160 --> 0:13:21.960 I don't run out for some of something that I 0:13:22.080 --> 0:13:26.200 need every goddamn up. That on top of the fact 0:13:26.200 --> 0:13:29.400 that the Dow Jones fucking closed down more than nine 0:13:29.480 --> 0:13:34.400 hundred points. Right, we have gas, the new norm level 0:13:34.440 --> 0:13:38.520 of gas, new median gas price is over five dollars, 0:13:38.520 --> 0:13:41.400 and in some places like California, which has always had 0:13:41.480 --> 0:13:46.720 high gas prices, you're talking about seven dollars a fucking gallon. Dude, 0:13:47.040 --> 0:13:51.719 What are we doing here? This place is beyond a 0:13:51.840 --> 0:13:55.679 fucking shit hole. And it doesn't look like there are 0:13:55.720 --> 0:13:58.440 any signs of any of these things changing for the 0:13:58.480 --> 0:14:01.360 better at any time. And on top of that, you 0:14:01.360 --> 0:14:03.839 have a Democratic party that says they want to concentrate 0:14:03.880 --> 0:14:06.520 solely on kitchen table issues, and I'm saying to you, 0:14:06.840 --> 0:14:10.360 the kitchen table don't matter. Right. If we don't have 0:14:10.400 --> 0:14:13.320 a democracy, you can't vote, you can't access an abortion, 0:14:13.679 --> 0:14:18.840 you can't live life free of abject violence. Like I 0:14:19.040 --> 0:14:23.240 just you know, I hate to say this because people 0:14:23.280 --> 0:14:24.920 always want to come from me, and they always want 0:14:24.920 --> 0:14:27.440 to say I'm doing a disservice to the Democratic Party, 0:14:27.480 --> 0:14:30.320 which is like the new fucking talking point for people 0:14:30.320 --> 0:14:33.640 to post underneath my videos, And I'm just like, I'm 0:14:33.680 --> 0:14:36.560 doing a disservice or Democrats have done a disservice to 0:14:36.600 --> 0:14:43.480 themselves by believing that this radicalized party is somehow working 0:14:43.640 --> 0:14:47.440 together to preserve democracy, somehow that they believe in the 0:14:47.520 --> 0:14:49.840 rule of law. When these people continue to show them 0:14:49.840 --> 0:14:54.360 who they are, It's just mind boggling to me. I'm like, 0:14:54.440 --> 0:14:58.440 how do you win elections? You win elections by proving 0:14:58.480 --> 0:15:01.880 that you are better than the other guy, the other person. 0:15:03.240 --> 0:15:07.520 So if you are still referring to these people who 0:15:07.520 --> 0:15:11.360 are literally trying to ruin our country as your friend, 0:15:11.600 --> 0:15:14.640 how are you making the distinction between what the American 0:15:14.720 --> 0:15:17.360 people need to do and whose behalf they need to 0:15:17.360 --> 0:15:21.840 do it on. It's so mind boggling. But I gotta 0:15:21.920 --> 0:15:24.680 tell you that this week is going to just be 0:15:24.880 --> 0:15:29.400 another week in hell here. And we got Supreme Court 0:15:29.440 --> 0:15:32.240 decisions that are supposed to be coming down. Some came 0:15:32.280 --> 0:15:35.560 down yesterday, another batch is coming down on Wednesday, and 0:15:35.600 --> 0:15:39.200 we are getting closer and closer to the official overturning 0:15:39.240 --> 0:15:41.600 of Roe v. Wade. And I got to tell you. 0:15:41.600 --> 0:15:44.880 You know, you have Homeland Security coming out talking about, oh, 0:15:44.920 --> 0:15:47.720 we have a rise in domestic violence threats. You have 0:15:47.800 --> 0:15:50.200 thirty one members of a white supremacist group that was 0:15:50.280 --> 0:15:54.320 arrested over the weekend, right because they got tipped off 0:15:54.600 --> 0:15:57.240 that this group was getting ready to riot at a 0:15:57.280 --> 0:16:01.080 Pride parade. My head, it feels like it is on 0:16:01.160 --> 0:16:04.560 a swivel, feels like it is on a swovel, just 0:16:04.760 --> 0:16:08.920 from one bad headline to the next. And again I'm saying, 0:16:09.120 --> 0:16:13.200 how is this Democratic Party not connecting the dots between 0:16:13.280 --> 0:16:17.280 the criminality of the Republican Party, white supremacy, rise in 0:16:17.360 --> 0:16:21.640 domestic violence, and like all of the economic issues that 0:16:21.680 --> 0:16:24.040 we are having. How are we not connecting this back 0:16:24.080 --> 0:16:26.840 to Trump and the Republicans? How is this not part 0:16:26.880 --> 0:16:31.200 of your narrative? Oh not all Republicans. Wait, stop saying 0:16:31.240 --> 0:16:33.560 so many words when you don't need to. If you 0:16:33.600 --> 0:16:37.480 would identify with the Republican Party, you stand with Donald Trump, 0:16:37.760 --> 0:16:43.560 which means that you stand with white supremacy, misogyny, patriarchy, islamophobia, homophobia, transphobia, 0:16:43.720 --> 0:16:48.160 and the rest of it. There is no room between 0:16:48.200 --> 0:16:51.480 these groups now, So stop tripping over yourselves Democrats and 0:16:51.600 --> 0:16:56.840 trying to prove otherwise. Just tell the fucking truth. 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Folks, I am very 0:18:26.920 --> 0:18:30.720 excited to welcome to Okay affidaily for the very first time. 0:18:31.119 --> 0:18:34.359 Adrian Lawrence, who is the host of the Young Turk 0:18:34.480 --> 0:18:39.200 show Overruled, is author of the book Staying in the Game, 0:18:39.400 --> 0:18:47.040 the Playbook of Beating workplace sexual Harassment, which is just 0:18:47.160 --> 0:18:51.600 awful that we need a playbook, among many things. Adrian, 0:18:51.640 --> 0:18:54.640 thank you so much for making the time to join us. 0:18:55.720 --> 0:18:59.440 I don't even know where to what catastrophe, what tragedy 0:18:59.520 --> 0:19:02.239 to begin with to discuss with you, but let us 0:19:02.240 --> 0:19:05.840 start with the one that has been in the news 0:19:05.880 --> 0:19:09.960 since the leaked decision came down, which is the inevitable 0:19:10.160 --> 0:19:14.240 overturn of Roe v. Wade. As we see and as 0:19:14.280 --> 0:19:18.560 we have read in the ninety eight page leaked draft decision. 0:19:19.520 --> 0:19:24.040 This is setting in place a reality for many people 0:19:24.320 --> 0:19:28.320 who never thought that this could happen, even though Republicans 0:19:28.320 --> 0:19:31.879 have been working to overturn Roe v. Wade out in 0:19:31.920 --> 0:19:35.399 the open for fifty years. Why do you think that 0:19:35.480 --> 0:19:39.479 so many people are caught off guard by this moment 0:19:39.720 --> 0:19:43.840 and this decision and how heinous it is. First off, 0:19:43.880 --> 0:19:46.159 thank you so much for having me. It's so unfortunate 0:19:46.680 --> 0:19:49.119 the reasons that I'm here. But yes, I think that 0:19:49.200 --> 0:19:52.199 a lot of people were caught off guard because it 0:19:52.280 --> 0:19:54.840 had to some extent become somewhat of an institution when 0:19:54.840 --> 0:19:57.800 we're talking about rowing weight that access to abortion, even 0:19:57.840 --> 0:20:00.399 though the GOP has been working for deck aids to 0:20:00.600 --> 0:20:04.640 whittle it down to bear bones and to continue to 0:20:04.800 --> 0:20:10.000 strip the rights of primarily women and other childbearing people 0:20:10.160 --> 0:20:13.240 as well, but to strip those rights down because it's 0:20:13.240 --> 0:20:16.520 impacting bodily autonomy, and bodily autonomy is one of the 0:20:16.600 --> 0:20:20.240 essences of humanity. And so what we do definitely know 0:20:20.400 --> 0:20:23.480 is that this is really just an effort to remove 0:20:23.560 --> 0:20:27.280 women from the workplace, to continue to control our bodies 0:20:27.359 --> 0:20:29.960 and to subjugate us, and to take it back to 0:20:30.040 --> 0:20:33.479 that nineteen fifties flip where we didn't necessarily have all 0:20:33.520 --> 0:20:36.280 the rights that we have today. This is removing competition 0:20:36.760 --> 0:20:39.439 in the workforce, but ultimately this is going to end 0:20:39.520 --> 0:20:42.720 up hurting the nation in Toto if Roe v. Wade 0:20:42.960 --> 0:20:46.480 is reversed, as that leaked opinion indicate, will definitely be 0:20:46.680 --> 0:20:51.359 the hostility. You know, one of the things that I 0:20:51.400 --> 0:20:54.720 wrote about this a week or so ago for The 0:20:54.800 --> 0:21:01.119 Daily Beast about the connection between the Republicans belief in 0:21:01.119 --> 0:21:05.520 the replacement theory, low birth rates, the manifesto that was 0:21:05.560 --> 0:21:11.280 put out by the Buffalo terrorists that took ten black lives, 0:21:11.280 --> 0:21:15.760 that all of this is actually a convergence of everything 0:21:16.119 --> 0:21:20.280 that the Republican Party has stood for for quite some time. 0:21:21.240 --> 0:21:24.720 Do you think that Democrats are missing an opportunity to 0:21:24.760 --> 0:21:27.440 make this connection. Do you think that there is a 0:21:27.480 --> 0:21:32.400 better way that the media needs to be making the 0:21:32.400 --> 0:21:37.920 connection between all of these insidiary policies that are passing 0:21:38.000 --> 0:21:41.639 and the overarching goal. You know, well, Danielle, what you 0:21:41.760 --> 0:21:45.400 just raised is a lot of complicated issues, almost very 0:21:45.440 --> 0:21:48.879 much intertwine though, because reality is the media is still 0:21:48.920 --> 0:21:52.320 considerably white and male. We're talking about around seventy percent, 0:21:52.600 --> 0:21:55.600 which is similar to law enforcement in our country, and 0:21:55.680 --> 0:21:58.919 regardless of whether somebody has a D or an RNX 0:21:58.960 --> 0:22:01.239 to their name, when it comes to politics, there is 0:22:01.240 --> 0:22:07.400 still this almost bipartisan thought when it comes to oftentimes 0:22:07.480 --> 0:22:10.959 white men in our society about white male supremacy, and 0:22:11.040 --> 0:22:14.800 so they're not going to get from the media the 0:22:14.800 --> 0:22:17.640 wholehearted truth about what is going on. And we see 0:22:17.640 --> 0:22:20.000 that every day when we see the fact that they 0:22:20.040 --> 0:22:24.439 are willing to say things like racially tinged or these 0:22:24.480 --> 0:22:26.560 comments as opposed to simply calling it what it is, 0:22:26.600 --> 0:22:29.760 which is racist. So when you consider that factor, you 0:22:29.920 --> 0:22:32.159 have to realize that the media is definitely going to 0:22:32.200 --> 0:22:37.320 be giving very I guess you'd say saturated versions of 0:22:37.359 --> 0:22:40.679 this or in some way it is watered down to 0:22:40.720 --> 0:22:43.240 the point where you're not necessarily going to get that connection. 0:22:43.280 --> 0:22:46.119 You're not necessarily going to get the truth of the 0:22:46.160 --> 0:22:49.280 fact that this is about controlling the bodies of women. 0:22:49.680 --> 0:22:53.639 And it does definitely have ties to this replacement theory. 0:22:53.920 --> 0:22:56.840 And we know that also from the history of abortion 0:22:56.960 --> 0:22:59.840 laws in the United States of when they have been 0:23:00.119 --> 0:23:03.439 enforced and how they've been enforced. Also with immigration laws 0:23:03.440 --> 0:23:06.440 and how they've been enforced, and this fear that they're 0:23:06.480 --> 0:23:09.240 going to have black and brown people or people from 0:23:09.280 --> 0:23:12.320 other countries primarily black and brown, who are going to 0:23:12.359 --> 0:23:15.920 have babies at certain rates and numbers. And so this 0:23:16.080 --> 0:23:18.600 is all tied together in this fear that there aren't 0:23:18.640 --> 0:23:21.679 going to be a population of white people in the 0:23:21.760 --> 0:23:24.720 United States at the numbers that there have been in 0:23:24.840 --> 0:23:30.320 previous years, and thus being a minority and apparently, you know, 0:23:30.400 --> 0:23:33.639 maybe these white to individuals realize that minorities aren't treated 0:23:33.720 --> 0:23:36.480 that great here in the US and their fear being born. 0:23:38.720 --> 0:23:40.479 You know, It's always so funny to me because I 0:23:40.520 --> 0:23:43.040 say to myself, I don't understand why they have all 0:23:43.080 --> 0:23:46.120 this fear around the demographic shift. If they believe that 0:23:46.119 --> 0:23:50.359 white privilege doesn't exist, right, if we all as people 0:23:50.359 --> 0:23:52.840 of color, have been making it up right and we're 0:23:52.880 --> 0:23:55.920 just so sensitive, I don't understand why there would be 0:23:55.960 --> 0:24:00.320 any fear on there on their side whatsoever. I also 0:24:00.320 --> 0:24:03.600 don't know why nobody ever asked them that question. You know, 0:24:03.840 --> 0:24:08.480 you brought up something earlier with regard to the economic 0:24:08.560 --> 0:24:14.240 ties between abortion rollbacks and removing women from the workforce, 0:24:14.600 --> 0:24:17.160 And I want to talk about that because Janet Yellen, 0:24:18.040 --> 0:24:21.960 when she just recently sat before Congress was not a 0:24:22.400 --> 0:24:26.119 hearing about abortion. It was a hearing with regard to inflation. 0:24:26.560 --> 0:24:31.680 But she made the connection between our economic stability and 0:24:32.160 --> 0:24:35.880 the ability to have abortions. And so I just want 0:24:35.920 --> 0:24:39.760 you to talk a bit about the connection that she made. 0:24:39.840 --> 0:24:45.080 And again, how we have only ever talked about abortion 0:24:45.200 --> 0:24:50.720 access as a right to bodily autonomy and not an 0:24:50.760 --> 0:24:55.720 equity issue and not an economic issue. Can you speak 0:24:55.720 --> 0:24:59.400 to that? Absolutely? So. In addition to being an attorney 0:24:59.520 --> 0:25:02.600 and being the host at the Young Turks, I'm also 0:25:02.640 --> 0:25:05.359 a vice president at Jennifer Brown Consulting, where we do 0:25:05.520 --> 0:25:09.520 workplace inclusion training and I just did a training conversation 0:25:09.960 --> 0:25:14.879 on reproductive health as a diversity, equity and inclusion issue. 0:25:14.960 --> 0:25:18.040 That's d EI, and it is very much the case 0:25:18.080 --> 0:25:21.080 because when you look at business and how business operates, 0:25:21.480 --> 0:25:25.239 this is about the advancement of a company and the 0:25:25.280 --> 0:25:29.640 ability to have human capital your workforce. And if you 0:25:29.680 --> 0:25:33.120