1 00:00:11,840 --> 00:00:14,480 Speaker 1: Good morning, peeps, and welcome to wikay F Daily with 2 00:00:14,600 --> 00:00:18,960 Speaker 1: Meet your Girl Danielle Moody, recording from the Brooklyn Bunker. Folks, 3 00:00:19,120 --> 00:00:23,920 Speaker 1: Yesterday was day two of the Insurrection one six House 4 00:00:24,040 --> 00:00:28,160 Speaker 1: Commission hearings. And what we learned from the jump from 5 00:00:28,240 --> 00:00:31,480 Speaker 1: Liz Cheney, who props to her for basically calling Rudy 6 00:00:31,520 --> 00:00:35,920 Speaker 1: Giuliani a drunk is this We learned several things from 7 00:00:36,360 --> 00:00:40,360 Speaker 1: video testimony and then live testimony of people who were 8 00:00:40,800 --> 00:00:44,840 Speaker 1: in Trump's inner circle. From a former Fox News executive 9 00:00:44,960 --> 00:00:47,520 Speaker 1: who was in the room when they decided to make 10 00:00:47,560 --> 00:00:51,560 Speaker 1: the call for Arizona based on all of their findings 11 00:00:51,560 --> 00:00:55,560 Speaker 1: and saying that they knew that Donald Trump lost the election. 12 00:00:55,760 --> 00:00:58,160 Speaker 1: They knew it then they said it, and they had 13 00:00:58,200 --> 00:01:00,440 Speaker 1: no idea that it was going to cause such a fury. 14 00:01:00,520 --> 00:01:03,840 Speaker 1: But the facts were the facts that they had posters 15 00:01:03,880 --> 00:01:06,720 Speaker 1: that were working that were both Democrat and Republican and 16 00:01:06,800 --> 00:01:09,640 Speaker 1: academics and all of these people, and they knew Arizona 17 00:01:09,720 --> 00:01:14,520 Speaker 1: was called. Then you have you know, other folks who 18 00:01:14,920 --> 00:01:18,880 Speaker 1: spoke to the fact that they also the night of 19 00:01:18,880 --> 00:01:21,640 Speaker 1: the election, what was the mood? What do you understand? 20 00:01:21,920 --> 00:01:26,240 Speaker 1: They understood that the election had been called and that 21 00:01:26,360 --> 00:01:29,360 Speaker 1: based on the states that everyone had been tracking that 22 00:01:29,400 --> 00:01:32,640 Speaker 1: Donald Trump lost the election. You heard that from Bill Barr, 23 00:01:32,720 --> 00:01:35,320 Speaker 1: You hear it from Ivanka Trump. You hear it from 24 00:01:35,400 --> 00:01:38,560 Speaker 1: all of the inner circle. You hear it from x 25 00:01:38,560 --> 00:01:43,640 Speaker 1: Fox News executives. You hear it from the state attorney 26 00:01:43,680 --> 00:01:49,200 Speaker 1: general from Georgia. You hear it from everywhere. The purpose 27 00:01:49,280 --> 00:01:51,960 Speaker 1: of this right, the purpose of the way that this 28 00:01:52,160 --> 00:01:55,040 Speaker 1: hearing is being laid out and day and day two 29 00:01:56,160 --> 00:02:01,200 Speaker 1: is this. It is to show that Donald Trump knew 30 00:02:02,280 --> 00:02:06,600 Speaker 1: that he lost the election, but that instead he decided 31 00:02:06,640 --> 00:02:10,880 Speaker 1: to perpetrate a lie which, according to many reports from 32 00:02:11,040 --> 00:02:15,320 Speaker 1: the One six Committee and NPR and others, he was 33 00:02:15,360 --> 00:02:19,240 Speaker 1: able to grift get this, folks, a quarter of a 34 00:02:19,320 --> 00:02:23,480 Speaker 1: billion fucking dollars on his stop the Steel, help us 35 00:02:23,520 --> 00:02:28,639 Speaker 1: Stop the Steel two hundred and fifty million dollars he 36 00:02:28,720 --> 00:02:32,720 Speaker 1: was able to bring in between the election right in 37 00:02:32,840 --> 00:02:38,360 Speaker 1: November and like January sixth, that is extraordinary. You have 38 00:02:38,400 --> 00:02:44,359 Speaker 1: Donald Trump Junior's girlfriend, Gilfoyle, who has paid sixty thousand 39 00:02:44,480 --> 00:02:49,440 Speaker 1: dollars for her handful of minute introduction to Donald Trump 40 00:02:49,520 --> 00:02:52,880 Speaker 1: at this quote unquote stop the Steel rally, folks. The 41 00:02:52,960 --> 00:02:55,160 Speaker 1: way that this is being laid out. Is what we've 42 00:02:55,200 --> 00:02:59,360 Speaker 1: always known. Donald Trump is a fucking grifter. He's a 43 00:02:59,400 --> 00:03:03,680 Speaker 1: fucking criminal, right. Even his own people they were willing to, 44 00:03:03,760 --> 00:03:06,880 Speaker 1: you know, keep it going. But then once logic set in, 45 00:03:07,000 --> 00:03:11,040 Speaker 1: they were like, yeah, so you lost, Like we got 46 00:03:11,040 --> 00:03:14,920 Speaker 1: to move forward. And Donald Trump kept bringing up to 47 00:03:14,960 --> 00:03:17,480 Speaker 1: the Department of Justice, who he was using as his 48 00:03:17,600 --> 00:03:21,120 Speaker 1: personal law firm, here are all of the ways that 49 00:03:21,280 --> 00:03:24,799 Speaker 1: we should be tackling this quote unquote steal. And when 50 00:03:25,960 --> 00:03:28,919 Speaker 1: Bill Barr, who we all know is a fucking liar, 51 00:03:28,919 --> 00:03:30,920 Speaker 1: who we all know is a criminal and should be 52 00:03:30,960 --> 00:03:34,720 Speaker 1: indicted for his offenses against the American people, and in 53 00:03:34,880 --> 00:03:39,880 Speaker 1: collusion with this White House, when he's the one that says, yeah, 54 00:03:39,960 --> 00:03:43,800 Speaker 1: so this is all bullshit, Like, then you know that 55 00:03:43,960 --> 00:03:46,840 Speaker 1: you have literally jumped the shark. The other way to 56 00:03:46,920 --> 00:03:49,640 Speaker 1: know that you've jumped the shark is when you've decided 57 00:03:49,920 --> 00:03:54,760 Speaker 1: that the person who you're taking advice from is shit faced. 58 00:03:56,000 --> 00:04:01,200 Speaker 1: Everyone who was interviewed who was in the White House 59 00:04:01,600 --> 00:04:04,880 Speaker 1: on the day of the election has testified to the 60 00:04:04,920 --> 00:04:08,840 Speaker 1: fact that Rudy Giuliani was half in the fucking bag, 61 00:04:09,320 --> 00:04:12,720 Speaker 1: but yet it wasn't. All the other paid advisors and 62 00:04:12,880 --> 00:04:16,320 Speaker 1: polsters and folks that Donald Trump was listening to. He 63 00:04:16,400 --> 00:04:21,120 Speaker 1: was listening to the one drunk right who is Loizidou saying, Oh, 64 00:04:21,160 --> 00:04:24,479 Speaker 1: we can make this up in a recount. You had 65 00:04:24,560 --> 00:04:27,240 Speaker 1: several people testify to the fact that when we are 66 00:04:27,240 --> 00:04:30,880 Speaker 1: talking about recounts, and the biggest recount being the two 67 00:04:30,920 --> 00:04:33,920 Speaker 1: thousand election, when we allowed the Supreme Court of these 68 00:04:34,120 --> 00:04:37,800 Speaker 1: United States to decide the fucking election, you were talking 69 00:04:37,800 --> 00:04:40,840 Speaker 1: about a margin of five hundred and eighty seven votes 70 00:04:41,839 --> 00:04:46,120 Speaker 1: Donald Trump. In the states that were being hotly contested, 71 00:04:46,520 --> 00:04:51,200 Speaker 1: you were talking about at minimum ten thousand votes. You 72 00:04:51,360 --> 00:04:55,280 Speaker 1: do not make that up in a fucking recount. So 73 00:04:56,240 --> 00:04:58,719 Speaker 1: what are we looking at in the big big picture 74 00:04:58,839 --> 00:05:01,159 Speaker 1: when we're trying to see Donald Trump in an orange 75 00:05:01,240 --> 00:05:06,200 Speaker 1: jumpsuit to match his orange face. We are looking at intent? Right? 76 00:05:06,360 --> 00:05:10,040 Speaker 1: Did Donald Trump intent to defraud the people? Was Donald 77 00:05:10,040 --> 00:05:14,680 Speaker 1: Trump aware right that he had lost the election? Because 78 00:05:14,720 --> 00:05:18,320 Speaker 1: the only defense has been laid out by a number 79 00:05:18,360 --> 00:05:21,960 Speaker 1: of lawyers on cable news. The only defense that Donald 80 00:05:22,000 --> 00:05:25,919 Speaker 1: Trump's lawyers really have is to say that he believed 81 00:05:26,480 --> 00:05:29,520 Speaker 1: that he didn't lose the election, and so he was 82 00:05:29,600 --> 00:05:32,760 Speaker 1: going to do everything in its power well, when everyone 83 00:05:33,440 --> 00:05:37,920 Speaker 1: inside of your inner circle has testified to the contrary, 84 00:05:38,000 --> 00:05:41,080 Speaker 1: not only did they tell you, they told you that 85 00:05:41,120 --> 00:05:43,960 Speaker 1: what you were scheming to do was in fact that 86 00:05:44,400 --> 00:05:49,359 Speaker 1: crazy and a scheme. So what pisces me off, though, 87 00:05:49,600 --> 00:05:54,600 Speaker 1: is that you have now these Trumpers right who wanted 88 00:05:54,640 --> 00:05:59,480 Speaker 1: to create this distinction on the inside between the kooks 89 00:06:00,120 --> 00:06:04,920 Speaker 1: of Rudy Giuliani and then everybody else. But the thing 90 00:06:05,120 --> 00:06:08,560 Speaker 1: is is that they were all aboard the insurrection train. 91 00:06:11,080 --> 00:06:14,440 Speaker 1: Donald Trump had been talking about this election being stolen 92 00:06:14,760 --> 00:06:18,240 Speaker 1: well before the Stop the Steel rally, ahead of our 93 00:06:18,279 --> 00:06:21,679 Speaker 1: capital going up in smoke. He started making those claims 94 00:06:21,720 --> 00:06:26,479 Speaker 1: before the election in fucking August. Oh, the only way 95 00:06:26,480 --> 00:06:30,000 Speaker 1: that we lose is if is if the election is stolen. 96 00:06:30,080 --> 00:06:32,120 Speaker 1: The only way that we lose is if the election 97 00:06:32,200 --> 00:06:35,479 Speaker 1: is stolen. No, the only way that you lose is 98 00:06:35,480 --> 00:06:38,279 Speaker 1: if the American people decided that they want off the 99 00:06:38,360 --> 00:06:41,720 Speaker 1: Trump fucking crazy train and they want some type of 100 00:06:41,800 --> 00:06:49,039 Speaker 1: return to a normalcy. So I personally think right now 101 00:06:49,200 --> 00:06:54,320 Speaker 1: after watching day two, that this committee is doing exactly 102 00:06:54,360 --> 00:06:57,640 Speaker 1: what it needs to be doing. My only critique is 103 00:06:57,680 --> 00:07:01,880 Speaker 1: that every single hearing, every single public hearing, should be 104 00:07:01,920 --> 00:07:04,680 Speaker 1: happening in prime time. There should be no hearing that 105 00:07:04,760 --> 00:07:07,039 Speaker 1: is happening at ten o'clock in the morning, when the 106 00:07:07,080 --> 00:07:10,360 Speaker 1: American people are at work. Every single hearing should be 107 00:07:10,400 --> 00:07:15,920 Speaker 1: happening at seven pm, from seven to ten, every you know, 108 00:07:16,080 --> 00:07:19,040 Speaker 1: for every single one, because that is when you know 109 00:07:19,080 --> 00:07:21,600 Speaker 1: that people are home, when they have finished dinner or 110 00:07:21,760 --> 00:07:25,240 Speaker 1: they're making dinner, and they're watching what's going on. Right, 111 00:07:25,680 --> 00:07:30,960 Speaker 1: We need eyeballs, We need people to recognize that not 112 00:07:31,120 --> 00:07:38,440 Speaker 1: only did this grifting ass criminal president No No, that 113 00:07:38,640 --> 00:07:41,960 Speaker 1: he was lying, He whipped these people up into a 114 00:07:42,000 --> 00:07:45,640 Speaker 1: frenzy to tell them that if they were really patriots, 115 00:07:45,800 --> 00:07:48,040 Speaker 1: that they would go and take their country back by 116 00:07:48,080 --> 00:07:52,880 Speaker 1: any means necessary. So he knowingly put his own base 117 00:07:53,280 --> 00:07:58,480 Speaker 1: in harm's way to square up against the police. Not 118 00:07:58,520 --> 00:08:02,480 Speaker 1: only that, but from the previous day one of the hearings, 119 00:08:02,520 --> 00:08:05,840 Speaker 1: what did we learn that Donald Trump was nowhere to 120 00:08:05,920 --> 00:08:09,440 Speaker 1: be found, and that his own chief of staff was 121 00:08:09,560 --> 00:08:14,800 Speaker 1: trying to change the outside perception that he wasn't in 122 00:08:14,920 --> 00:08:17,160 Speaker 1: charge of the White House or of a country, and 123 00:08:17,240 --> 00:08:20,480 Speaker 1: that it was really Mike Pence talking about to General Millie, 124 00:08:20,560 --> 00:08:25,720 Speaker 1: we got to change the narrative, said Meadows. I'm pretty 125 00:08:25,760 --> 00:08:30,280 Speaker 1: sure that it wasn't politics that was leading that moment. 126 00:08:30,360 --> 00:08:33,720 Speaker 1: It was more so, Oh my god, the capital is 127 00:08:33,760 --> 00:08:37,000 Speaker 1: being overthrown and people are trying to overthrow our democracy. 128 00:08:37,080 --> 00:08:39,480 Speaker 1: That's what I think a general would be paying attention to. 129 00:08:39,840 --> 00:08:43,400 Speaker 1: But what do I know. What we also found out 130 00:08:43,559 --> 00:08:48,440 Speaker 1: yesterday is that in a pressor that the absentee Attorney 131 00:08:48,480 --> 00:08:51,800 Speaker 1: General was giving and by absentee Attorney General of course, 132 00:08:51,840 --> 00:08:55,760 Speaker 1: referring to sleep at the wheel Merrit Garland, that he is. Indeed, 133 00:08:55,760 --> 00:08:58,800 Speaker 1: he was asked by a reporter, are you watching right 134 00:08:58,880 --> 00:09:02,600 Speaker 1: our folks watching these hearings, and he said, I am 135 00:09:02,640 --> 00:09:07,040 Speaker 1: absolutely watching the hearings, as are the prosecutors at the 136 00:09:07,240 --> 00:09:11,200 Speaker 1: Department of Justice. Well that was a good sign, because 137 00:09:11,240 --> 00:09:14,160 Speaker 1: you've had this committee do all the fucking hardlifting for you, 138 00:09:14,520 --> 00:09:17,439 Speaker 1: all of the heavy lifting. So maybe maybe that is 139 00:09:17,480 --> 00:09:20,040 Speaker 1: a glimpse into the fact that we will, at some 140 00:09:20,120 --> 00:09:23,560 Speaker 1: point in time, god willing, be moving forward with a 141 00:09:23,679 --> 00:09:26,679 Speaker 1: slew of indictments that Glenn Kirshner and I have been 142 00:09:26,720 --> 00:09:29,319 Speaker 1: talking about on woke F for the last year and 143 00:09:29,360 --> 00:09:33,240 Speaker 1: a half. Folks, I gotta tell you, you know, somebody 144 00:09:33,280 --> 00:09:38,839 Speaker 1: asked me yesterday if I was encouraged, right because they 145 00:09:38,920 --> 00:09:41,640 Speaker 1: wanted to have cautious optimism, and they're like, are you 146 00:09:41,800 --> 00:09:46,840 Speaker 1: encouraged by what you are seeing and hearing? And it's like, well, 147 00:09:47,240 --> 00:09:51,920 Speaker 1: do I have hope? Not really, because this country continues 148 00:09:51,960 --> 00:09:55,400 Speaker 1: to show its ass on a regular fucking basis. So 149 00:09:55,480 --> 00:09:58,120 Speaker 1: do I have hope that this doesn't just turn into 150 00:09:58,280 --> 00:10:01,520 Speaker 1: primetime entertainment and that by the time that we get 151 00:10:01,520 --> 00:10:04,880 Speaker 1: to election midterm elections, that it's just one big nothing burger. 152 00:10:05,120 --> 00:10:07,600 Speaker 1: I have no idea. I am ye of little faith. 153 00:10:07,920 --> 00:10:10,720 Speaker 1: I want to be proven wrong. I do not want 154 00:10:10,760 --> 00:10:13,560 Speaker 1: to be proven right in this instance. I want to 155 00:10:13,600 --> 00:10:16,160 Speaker 1: be proven wrong. I want the Department of Justice to 156 00:10:16,200 --> 00:10:20,280 Speaker 1: come out with guns blazing. I want the Democrats to 157 00:10:20,320 --> 00:10:22,839 Speaker 1: get their shit together and realize that if they are 158 00:10:22,880 --> 00:10:27,440 Speaker 1: not messaging about who this opposition party really is and 159 00:10:27,559 --> 00:10:30,160 Speaker 1: what they have been attempting to do and what they 160 00:10:30,200 --> 00:10:32,640 Speaker 1: continue to do at the state and local level, if 161 00:10:32,640 --> 00:10:36,080 Speaker 1: they are not making this clear distinction, we're gonna fucking lose. 162 00:10:37,280 --> 00:10:40,760 Speaker 1: It isn't it doesn't have to be inevitable, but if 163 00:10:40,760 --> 00:10:44,880 Speaker 1: Democrats don't at least pretend to try, then that is 164 00:10:44,920 --> 00:10:49,280 Speaker 1: where this is going to end up, You know it is. 165 00:10:50,320 --> 00:10:52,240 Speaker 1: I gotta tell you the other thing, and let me 166 00:10:52,280 --> 00:10:56,880 Speaker 1: make this transition real quick between our slow moving coup 167 00:10:56,880 --> 00:10:59,960 Speaker 1: and our dying democracy and other things that I'm noticed. 168 00:11:00,080 --> 00:11:05,200 Speaker 1: Sing I tweeted this yesterday, folks. I went on Amazon because, 169 00:11:05,240 --> 00:11:09,160 Speaker 1: as we are all seeing, following the baby formula shortage, 170 00:11:09,200 --> 00:11:13,440 Speaker 1: there's another production shortage tampons right which, by the way, 171 00:11:13,640 --> 00:11:16,520 Speaker 1: according to CNN and other news reports, are up ten 172 00:11:16,559 --> 00:11:21,439 Speaker 1: percent in price, as is fucking everything because inflation. There's 173 00:11:21,440 --> 00:11:25,840 Speaker 1: a tampons shortage. So my mother says to me yesterday, Danielle, 174 00:11:25,920 --> 00:11:27,800 Speaker 1: I think that you need to start just like just 175 00:11:27,960 --> 00:11:30,439 Speaker 1: start buying, like when you're out and about, which I'm 176 00:11:30,440 --> 00:11:32,280 Speaker 1: not really out and about because them in a boot. 177 00:11:32,320 --> 00:11:34,680 Speaker 1: But when you're out or you know, looking on Amazon 178 00:11:34,720 --> 00:11:37,080 Speaker 1: and doing your orders, make sure to put in an 179 00:11:37,160 --> 00:11:41,600 Speaker 1: order for tampons. So I decided, they said, okay, let 180 00:11:41,600 --> 00:11:44,600 Speaker 1: me go ahead and do that. I bought two boxes 181 00:11:44,640 --> 00:11:49,400 Speaker 1: of tampons. Each box has supposedly ninety six tampons in them, right, 182 00:11:50,679 --> 00:11:55,320 Speaker 1: for seventy eight dollars, essentially eighty dollars when it all 183 00:11:55,400 --> 00:11:59,280 Speaker 1: comes around, it up eighty dollars. Now, I have wonderful 184 00:11:59,320 --> 00:12:02,160 Speaker 1: people on two who were sending me links at Walmart 185 00:12:02,200 --> 00:12:05,319 Speaker 1: and other places for tampons that are not that expensive. 186 00:12:05,360 --> 00:12:08,040 Speaker 1: But other folks are saying, yeah, I've seen the price 187 00:12:08,080 --> 00:12:12,600 Speaker 1: gouging happening already, and this is not great. What kind 188 00:12:12,600 --> 00:12:15,800 Speaker 1: of fucking country are we living in right now where 189 00:12:16,040 --> 00:12:19,640 Speaker 1: we can't get baby formula or tampons and everybody wants 190 00:12:19,640 --> 00:12:21,680 Speaker 1: to talk about, Oh, it's a supply chain issue, and 191 00:12:21,720 --> 00:12:24,600 Speaker 1: I'm like, is it really? Did we not fucking learn 192 00:12:24,679 --> 00:12:28,120 Speaker 1: anything during COVID that this interdependence that we have on 193 00:12:28,240 --> 00:12:31,439 Speaker 1: other countries, that maybe we should start figuring out how 194 00:12:31,480 --> 00:12:36,160 Speaker 1: to have production in this country. Right, Since Republicans wanted 195 00:12:36,200 --> 00:12:40,360 Speaker 1: to sign away you know, corporation's ability, right so that 196 00:12:40,440 --> 00:12:43,040 Speaker 1: they get all the tax breaks and have all the fucking, 197 00:12:43,440 --> 00:12:47,000 Speaker 1: you know, safe harvards for their money overseas, we don't 198 00:12:47,040 --> 00:12:49,559 Speaker 1: have fucking production in the way that we used to 199 00:12:49,679 --> 00:12:53,240 Speaker 1: in this country, right, And that has nothing to do 200 00:12:53,320 --> 00:12:55,200 Speaker 1: with as the Republicans would love to tell you, Oh, 201 00:12:55,280 --> 00:12:58,240 Speaker 1: people coming in and not wanting to work or stealing jobs. No, 202 00:12:58,720 --> 00:13:03,520 Speaker 1: they gave corporations tax breaks to take their businesses elsewhere. 203 00:13:04,160 --> 00:13:07,640 Speaker 1: That's what fucking happened. That's why we're in the predicament 204 00:13:07,679 --> 00:13:11,400 Speaker 1: that we're in, and that's why we are basically doing 205 00:13:11,440 --> 00:13:15,480 Speaker 1: a fucking nose dive into being a developing fucking nation. 206 00:13:15,800 --> 00:13:19,000 Speaker 1: I'm paying eighty dollars or tampons and hoping what that 207 00:13:19,160 --> 00:13:21,960 Speaker 1: I don't run out for some of something that I 208 00:13:22,080 --> 00:13:26,200 Speaker 1: need every goddamn up. That on top of the fact 209 00:13:26,200 --> 00:13:29,400 Speaker 1: that the Dow Jones fucking closed down more than nine 210 00:13:29,480 --> 00:13:34,400 Speaker 1: hundred points. Right, we have gas, the new norm level 211 00:13:34,440 --> 00:13:38,520 Speaker 1: of gas, new median gas price is over five dollars, 212 00:13:38,520 --> 00:13:41,400 Speaker 1: and in some places like California, which has always had 213 00:13:41,480 --> 00:13:46,720 Speaker 1: high gas prices, you're talking about seven dollars a fucking gallon. Dude, 214 00:13:47,040 --> 00:13:51,719 Speaker 1: What are we doing here? This place is beyond a 215 00:13:51,840 --> 00:13:55,679 Speaker 1: fucking shit hole. And it doesn't look like there are 216 00:13:55,720 --> 00:13:58,440 Speaker 1: any signs of any of these things changing for the 217 00:13:58,480 --> 00:14:01,360 Speaker 1: better at any time. And on top of that, you 218 00:14:01,360 --> 00:14:03,839 Speaker 1: have a Democratic party that says they want to concentrate 219 00:14:03,880 --> 00:14:06,520 Speaker 1: solely on kitchen table issues, and I'm saying to you, 220 00:14:06,840 --> 00:14:10,360 Speaker 1: the kitchen table don't matter. Right. If we don't have 221 00:14:10,400 --> 00:14:13,320 Speaker 1: a democracy, you can't vote, you can't access an abortion, 222 00:14:13,679 --> 00:14:18,840 Speaker 1: you can't live life free of abject violence. Like I 223 00:14:19,040 --> 00:14:23,240 Speaker 1: just you know, I hate to say this because people 224 00:14:23,280 --> 00:14:24,920 Speaker 1: always want to come from me, and they always want 225 00:14:24,920 --> 00:14:27,440 Speaker 1: to say I'm doing a disservice to the Democratic Party, 226 00:14:27,480 --> 00:14:30,320 Speaker 1: which is like the new fucking talking point for people 227 00:14:30,320 --> 00:14:33,640 Speaker 1: to post underneath my videos, And I'm just like, I'm 228 00:14:33,680 --> 00:14:36,560 Speaker 1: doing a disservice or Democrats have done a disservice to 229 00:14:36,600 --> 00:14:43,480 Speaker 1: themselves by believing that this radicalized party is somehow working 230 00:14:43,640 --> 00:14:47,440 Speaker 1: together to preserve democracy, somehow that they believe in the 231 00:14:47,520 --> 00:14:49,840 Speaker 1: rule of law. When these people continue to show them 232 00:14:49,840 --> 00:14:54,360 Speaker 1: who they are, It's just mind boggling to me. I'm like, 233 00:14:54,440 --> 00:14:58,440 Speaker 1: how do you win elections? You win elections by proving 234 00:14:58,480 --> 00:15:01,880 Speaker 1: that you are better than the other guy, the other person. 235 00:15:03,240 --> 00:15:07,520 Speaker 1: So if you are still referring to these people who 236 00:15:07,520 --> 00:15:11,360 Speaker 1: are literally trying to ruin our country as your friend, 237 00:15:11,600 --> 00:15:14,640 Speaker 1: how are you making the distinction between what the American 238 00:15:14,720 --> 00:15:17,360 Speaker 1: people need to do and whose behalf they need to 239 00:15:17,360 --> 00:15:21,840 Speaker 1: do it on. It's so mind boggling. But I gotta 240 00:15:21,920 --> 00:15:24,680 Speaker 1: tell you that this week is going to just be 241 00:15:24,880 --> 00:15:29,400 Speaker 1: another week in hell here. And we got Supreme Court 242 00:15:29,440 --> 00:15:32,240 Speaker 1: decisions that are supposed to be coming down. Some came 243 00:15:32,280 --> 00:15:35,560 Speaker 1: down yesterday, another batch is coming down on Wednesday, and 244 00:15:35,600 --> 00:15:39,200 Speaker 1: we are getting closer and closer to the official overturning 245 00:15:39,240 --> 00:15:41,600 Speaker 1: of Roe v. Wade. And I got to tell you. 246 00:15:41,600 --> 00:15:44,880 Speaker 1: You know, you have Homeland Security coming out talking about, oh, 247 00:15:44,920 --> 00:15:47,720 Speaker 1: we have a rise in domestic violence threats. You have 248 00:15:47,800 --> 00:15:50,200 Speaker 1: thirty one members of a white supremacist group that was 249 00:15:50,280 --> 00:15:54,320 Speaker 1: arrested over the weekend, right because they got tipped off 250 00:15:54,600 --> 00:15:57,240 Speaker 1: that this group was getting ready to riot at a 251 00:15:57,280 --> 00:16:01,080 Speaker 1: Pride parade. My head, it feels like it is on 252 00:16:01,160 --> 00:16:04,560 Speaker 1: a swivel, feels like it is on a swovel, just 253 00:16:04,760 --> 00:16:08,920 Speaker 1: from one bad headline to the next. And again I'm saying, 254 00:16:09,120 --> 00:16:13,200 Speaker 1: how is this Democratic Party not connecting the dots between 255 00:16:13,280 --> 00:16:17,280 Speaker 1: the criminality of the Republican Party, white supremacy, rise in 256 00:16:17,360 --> 00:16:21,640 Speaker 1: domestic violence, and like all of the economic issues that 257 00:16:21,680 --> 00:16:24,040 Speaker 1: we are having. How are we not connecting this back 258 00:16:24,080 --> 00:16:26,840 Speaker 1: to Trump and the Republicans? How is this not part 259 00:16:26,880 --> 00:16:31,200 Speaker 1: of your narrative? Oh not all Republicans. Wait, stop saying 260 00:16:31,240 --> 00:16:33,560 Speaker 1: so many words when you don't need to. If you 261 00:16:33,600 --> 00:16:37,480 Speaker 1: would identify with the Republican Party, you stand with Donald Trump, 262 00:16:37,760 --> 00:16:43,560 Speaker 1: which means that you stand with white supremacy, misogyny, patriarchy, islamophobia, homophobia, transphobia, 263 00:16:43,720 --> 00:16:48,160 Speaker 1: and the rest of it. There is no room between 264 00:16:48,200 --> 00:16:51,480 Speaker 1: these groups now, So stop tripping over yourselves Democrats and 265 00:16:51,600 --> 00:16:56,840 Speaker 1: trying to prove otherwise. Just tell the fucking truth. 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Folks, I am very 290 00:18:26,920 --> 00:18:30,720 Speaker 1: excited to welcome to Okay affidaily for the very first time. 291 00:18:31,119 --> 00:18:34,359 Speaker 1: Adrian Lawrence, who is the host of the Young Turk 292 00:18:34,480 --> 00:18:39,200 Speaker 1: show Overruled, is author of the book Staying in the Game, 293 00:18:39,400 --> 00:18:47,040 Speaker 1: the Playbook of Beating workplace sexual Harassment, which is just 294 00:18:47,160 --> 00:18:51,600 Speaker 1: awful that we need a playbook, among many things. Adrian, 295 00:18:51,640 --> 00:18:54,640 Speaker 1: thank you so much for making the time to join us. 296 00:18:55,720 --> 00:18:59,440 Speaker 1: I don't even know where to what catastrophe, what tragedy 297 00:18:59,520 --> 00:19:02,239 Speaker 1: to begin with to discuss with you, but let us 298 00:19:02,240 --> 00:19:05,840 Speaker 1: start with the one that has been in the news 299 00:19:05,880 --> 00:19:09,960 Speaker 1: since the leaked decision came down, which is the inevitable 300 00:19:10,160 --> 00:19:14,240 Speaker 1: overturn of Roe v. Wade. As we see and as 301 00:19:14,280 --> 00:19:18,560 Speaker 1: we have read in the ninety eight page leaked draft decision. 302 00:19:19,520 --> 00:19:24,040 Speaker 1: This is setting in place a reality for many people 303 00:19:24,320 --> 00:19:28,320 Speaker 1: who never thought that this could happen, even though Republicans 304 00:19:28,320 --> 00:19:31,879 Speaker 1: have been working to overturn Roe v. Wade out in 305 00:19:31,920 --> 00:19:35,399 Speaker 1: the open for fifty years. Why do you think that 306 00:19:35,480 --> 00:19:39,479 Speaker 1: so many people are caught off guard by this moment 307 00:19:39,720 --> 00:19:43,840 Speaker 1: and this decision and how heinous it is. First off, 308 00:19:43,880 --> 00:19:46,159 Speaker 1: thank you so much for having me. It's so unfortunate 309 00:19:46,680 --> 00:19:49,119 Speaker 1: the reasons that I'm here. But yes, I think that 310 00:19:49,200 --> 00:19:52,199 Speaker 1: a lot of people were caught off guard because it 311 00:19:52,280 --> 00:19:54,840 Speaker 1: had to some extent become somewhat of an institution when 312 00:19:54,840 --> 00:19:57,800 Speaker 1: we're talking about rowing weight that access to abortion, even 313 00:19:57,840 --> 00:20:00,399 Speaker 1: though the GOP has been working for deck aids to 314 00:20:00,600 --> 00:20:04,640 Speaker 1: whittle it down to bear bones and to continue to 315 00:20:04,800 --> 00:20:10,000 Speaker 1: strip the rights of primarily women and other childbearing people 316 00:20:10,160 --> 00:20:13,240 Speaker 1: as well, but to strip those rights down because it's 317 00:20:13,240 --> 00:20:16,520 Speaker 1: impacting bodily autonomy, and bodily autonomy is one of the 318 00:20:16,600 --> 00:20:20,240 Speaker 1: essences of humanity. And so what we do definitely know 319 00:20:20,400 --> 00:20:23,480 Speaker 1: is that this is really just an effort to remove 320 00:20:23,560 --> 00:20:27,280 Speaker 1: women from the workplace, to continue to control our bodies 321 00:20:27,359 --> 00:20:29,960 Speaker 1: and to subjugate us, and to take it back to 322 00:20:30,040 --> 00:20:33,479 Speaker 1: that nineteen fifties flip where we didn't necessarily have all 323 00:20:33,520 --> 00:20:36,280 Speaker 1: the rights that we have today. This is removing competition 324 00:20:36,760 --> 00:20:39,439 Speaker 1: in the workforce, but ultimately this is going to end 325 00:20:39,520 --> 00:20:42,720 Speaker 1: up hurting the nation in Toto if Roe v. Wade 326 00:20:42,960 --> 00:20:46,480 Speaker 1: is reversed, as that leaked opinion indicate, will definitely be 327 00:20:46,680 --> 00:20:51,359 Speaker 1: the hostility. You know, one of the things that I 328 00:20:51,400 --> 00:20:54,720 Speaker 1: wrote about this a week or so ago for The 329 00:20:54,800 --> 00:21:01,119 Speaker 1: Daily Beast about the connection between the Republicans belief in 330 00:21:01,119 --> 00:21:05,520 Speaker 1: the replacement theory, low birth rates, the manifesto that was 331 00:21:05,560 --> 00:21:11,280 Speaker 1: put out by the Buffalo terrorists that took ten black lives, 332 00:21:11,280 --> 00:21:15,760 Speaker 1: that all of this is actually a convergence of everything 333 00:21:16,119 --> 00:21:20,280 Speaker 1: that the Republican Party has stood for for quite some time. 334 00:21:21,240 --> 00:21:24,720 Speaker 1: Do you think that Democrats are missing an opportunity to 335 00:21:24,760 --> 00:21:27,440 Speaker 1: make this connection. Do you think that there is a 336 00:21:27,480 --> 00:21:32,400 Speaker 1: better way that the media needs to be making the 337 00:21:32,400 --> 00:21:37,920 Speaker 1: connection between all of these insidiary policies that are passing 338 00:21:38,000 --> 00:21:41,639 Speaker 1: and the overarching goal. You know, well, Danielle, what you 339 00:21:41,760 --> 00:21:45,400 Speaker 1: just raised is a lot of complicated issues, almost very 340 00:21:45,440 --> 00:21:48,879 Speaker 1: much intertwine though, because reality is the media is still 341 00:21:48,920 --> 00:21:52,320 Speaker 1: considerably white and male. We're talking about around seventy percent, 342 00:21:52,600 --> 00:21:55,600 Speaker 1: which is similar to law enforcement in our country, and 343 00:21:55,680 --> 00:21:58,919 Speaker 1: regardless of whether somebody has a D or an RNX 344 00:21:58,960 --> 00:22:01,239 Speaker 1: to their name, when it comes to politics, there is 345 00:22:01,240 --> 00:22:07,400 Speaker 1: still this almost bipartisan thought when it comes to oftentimes 346 00:22:07,480 --> 00:22:10,959 Speaker 1: white men in our society about white male supremacy, and 347 00:22:11,040 --> 00:22:14,800 Speaker 1: so they're not going to get from the media the 348 00:22:14,800 --> 00:22:17,640 Speaker 1: wholehearted truth about what is going on. And we see 349 00:22:17,640 --> 00:22:20,000 Speaker 1: that every day when we see the fact that they 350 00:22:20,040 --> 00:22:24,439 Speaker 1: are willing to say things like racially tinged or these 351 00:22:24,480 --> 00:22:26,560 Speaker 1: comments as opposed to simply calling it what it is, 352 00:22:26,600 --> 00:22:29,760 Speaker 1: which is racist. So when you consider that factor, you 353 00:22:29,920 --> 00:22:32,159 Speaker 1: have to realize that the media is definitely going to 354 00:22:32,200 --> 00:22:37,320 Speaker 1: be giving very I guess you'd say saturated versions of 355 00:22:37,359 --> 00:22:40,679 Speaker 1: this or in some way it is watered down to 356 00:22:40,720 --> 00:22:43,240 Speaker 1: the point where you're not necessarily going to get that connection. 357 00:22:43,280 --> 00:22:46,119 Speaker 1: You're not necessarily going to get the truth of the 358 00:22:46,160 --> 00:22:49,280 Speaker 1: fact that this is about controlling the bodies of women. 359 00:22:49,680 --> 00:22:53,639 Speaker 1: And it does definitely have ties to this replacement theory. 360 00:22:53,920 --> 00:22:56,840 Speaker 1: And we know that also from the history of abortion 361 00:22:56,960 --> 00:22:59,840 Speaker 1: laws in the United States of when they have been 362 00:23:00,119 --> 00:23:03,439 Speaker 1: enforced and how they've been enforced. Also with immigration laws 363 00:23:03,440 --> 00:23:06,440 Speaker 1: and how they've been enforced, and this fear that they're 364 00:23:06,480 --> 00:23:09,240 Speaker 1: going to have black and brown people or people from 365 00:23:09,280 --> 00:23:12,320 Speaker 1: other countries primarily black and brown, who are going to 366 00:23:12,359 --> 00:23:15,920 Speaker 1: have babies at certain rates and numbers. And so this 367 00:23:16,080 --> 00:23:18,600 Speaker 1: is all tied together in this fear that there aren't 368 00:23:18,640 --> 00:23:21,679 Speaker 1: going to be a population of white people in the 369 00:23:21,760 --> 00:23:24,720 Speaker 1: United States at the numbers that there have been in 370 00:23:24,840 --> 00:23:30,320 Speaker 1: previous years, and thus being a minority and apparently, you know, 371 00:23:30,400 --> 00:23:33,639 Speaker 1: maybe these white to individuals realize that minorities aren't treated 372 00:23:33,720 --> 00:23:36,480 Speaker 1: that great here in the US and their fear being born. 373 00:23:38,720 --> 00:23:40,479 Speaker 1: You know, It's always so funny to me because I 374 00:23:40,520 --> 00:23:43,040 Speaker 1: say to myself, I don't understand why they have all 375 00:23:43,080 --> 00:23:46,120 Speaker 1: this fear around the demographic shift. If they believe that 376 00:23:46,119 --> 00:23:50,359 Speaker 1: white privilege doesn't exist, right, if we all as people 377 00:23:50,359 --> 00:23:52,840 Speaker 1: of color, have been making it up right and we're 378 00:23:52,880 --> 00:23:55,920 Speaker 1: just so sensitive, I don't understand why there would be 379 00:23:55,960 --> 00:24:00,320 Speaker 1: any fear on there on their side whatsoever. I also 380 00:24:00,320 --> 00:24:03,600 Speaker 1: don't know why nobody ever asked them that question. You know, 381 00:24:03,840 --> 00:24:08,480 Speaker 1: you brought up something earlier with regard to the economic 382 00:24:08,560 --> 00:24:14,240 Speaker 1: ties between abortion rollbacks and removing women from the workforce, 383 00:24:14,600 --> 00:24:17,160 Speaker 1: And I want to talk about that because Janet Yellen, 384 00:24:18,040 --> 00:24:21,960 Speaker 1: when she just recently sat before Congress was not a 385 00:24:22,400 --> 00:24:26,119 Speaker 1: hearing about abortion. It was a hearing with regard to inflation. 386 00:24:26,560 --> 00:24:31,680 Speaker 1: But she made the connection between our economic stability and 387 00:24:32,160 --> 00:24:35,880 Speaker 1: the ability to have abortions. And so I just want 388 00:24:35,920 --> 00:24:39,760 Speaker 1: you to talk a bit about the connection that she made. 389 00:24:39,840 --> 00:24:45,080 Speaker 1: And again, how we have only ever talked about abortion 390 00:24:45,200 --> 00:24:50,720 Speaker 1: access as a right to bodily autonomy and not an 391 00:24:50,760 --> 00:24:55,720 Speaker 1: equity issue and not an economic issue. Can you speak 392 00:24:55,720 --> 00:24:59,400 Speaker 1: to that? Absolutely? So. In addition to being an attorney 393 00:24:59,520 --> 00:25:02,600 Speaker 1: and being the host at the Young Turks, I'm also 394 00:25:02,640 --> 00:25:05,359 Speaker 1: a vice president at Jennifer Brown Consulting, where we do 395 00:25:05,520 --> 00:25:09,520 Speaker 1: workplace inclusion training and I just did a training conversation 396 00:25:09,960 --> 00:25:14,879 Speaker 1: on reproductive health as a diversity, equity and inclusion issue. 397 00:25:14,960 --> 00:25:18,040 Speaker 1: That's d EI, and it is very much the case 398 00:25:18,080 --> 00:25:21,080 Speaker 1: because when you look at business and how business operates, 399 00:25:21,480 --> 00:25:25,239 Speaker 1: this is about the advancement of a company and the 400 00:25:25,280 --> 00:25:29,640 Speaker 1: ability to have human capital your workforce. And if you 401 00:25:29,680 --> 00:25:33,120 Speaker 1: force individuals to have babies that they do not want 402 00:25:33,119 --> 00:25:35,960 Speaker 1: to have, what you're ultimately going to do, because our 403 00:25:36,000 --> 00:25:40,560 Speaker 1: society essentially puts the weight of childcare on women, is 404 00:25:40,600 --> 00:25:42,840 Speaker 1: you're going to put women in an even greater position 405 00:25:43,040 --> 00:25:47,000 Speaker 1: to not be in the workforce. That lost participation also 406 00:25:47,119 --> 00:25:51,400 Speaker 1: career trajectory starts to spin out of control. In the 407 00:25:51,480 --> 00:25:54,960 Speaker 1: adverse way, people stop being able to participate in the 408 00:25:55,000 --> 00:25:58,640 Speaker 1: workforce when their obligations have to go elsewhere, when they 409 00:25:58,680 --> 00:26:01,040 Speaker 1: have to take care of children. So we know that 410 00:26:01,080 --> 00:26:06,200 Speaker 1: it has significant financial impacts on women, emotional psychological impacts 411 00:26:06,240 --> 00:26:09,320 Speaker 1: on women as well as just the ability again to 412 00:26:09,400 --> 00:26:13,399 Speaker 1: contribute to the workforce. And Yellen is absolutely correct because 413 00:26:13,400 --> 00:26:16,600 Speaker 1: we know that even just the abortion restrictions that are 414 00:26:16,640 --> 00:26:20,000 Speaker 1: in place right now, that we are losing one hundred 415 00:26:20,040 --> 00:26:24,520 Speaker 1: and five billion dollars toward just our GDP as a nation, 416 00:26:24,640 --> 00:26:27,600 Speaker 1: and that's per the Institute of Women's Policy Research. We 417 00:26:27,680 --> 00:26:30,520 Speaker 1: know that there is so much incredible economic loss just 418 00:26:30,600 --> 00:26:32,680 Speaker 1: by virtue of the fact that women are restricted from 419 00:26:32,760 --> 00:26:37,000 Speaker 1: being able to dictate their bodily autonomy. And it really 420 00:26:37,119 --> 00:26:40,040 Speaker 1: is mesmerizing how a lot of these companies out here 421 00:26:40,280 --> 00:26:43,320 Speaker 1: who talk about diversity, equity, inclusion, they talk about fairness 422 00:26:43,320 --> 00:26:46,800 Speaker 1: and ensuring that women are uplifted on an equal platform 423 00:26:46,800 --> 00:26:49,879 Speaker 1: and workplaces, yet they are dead silent. Now, this is 424 00:26:49,920 --> 00:26:53,040 Speaker 1: about equity, This is about an opportunity to contribute to 425 00:26:53,080 --> 00:26:57,440 Speaker 1: the workforce, to be able to fulfill your obligations as 426 00:26:57,720 --> 00:27:01,560 Speaker 1: an employee, as a worker to contribute at optimal performance, 427 00:27:01,600 --> 00:27:04,359 Speaker 1: which you cannot do if you are forced to bear 428 00:27:04,440 --> 00:27:07,000 Speaker 1: a life and to take care of it, and you 429 00:27:07,119 --> 00:27:10,800 Speaker 1: also do not have the social supports to uplift that 430 00:27:10,920 --> 00:27:13,720 Speaker 1: life to nurturing or even as we're seeing right now 431 00:27:13,720 --> 00:27:18,520 Speaker 1: with a formula shortage to thee it you know, it's 432 00:27:18,560 --> 00:27:23,720 Speaker 1: incredible to me the President just put together a plan 433 00:27:23,880 --> 00:27:28,080 Speaker 1: to open up our Defensive Production Act in order to 434 00:27:29,280 --> 00:27:33,320 Speaker 1: alleviate the loss right now of people unable to get 435 00:27:33,359 --> 00:27:37,080 Speaker 1: formula for their children. One hundred and ninety two Republicans 436 00:27:37,160 --> 00:27:39,640 Speaker 1: voted against it in the House. That's all of them 437 00:27:40,840 --> 00:27:46,560 Speaker 1: voted against providing baby formula at the very same time 438 00:27:46,880 --> 00:27:51,520 Speaker 1: that they are voting for and applauding the rollback of 439 00:27:51,560 --> 00:27:56,520 Speaker 1: abortion access. How make that make sense about how we 440 00:27:56,640 --> 00:28:00,960 Speaker 1: are again? As people that work in media, I do 441 00:28:01,040 --> 00:28:05,640 Speaker 1: not see the questions being asked to these leaders about 442 00:28:05,760 --> 00:28:09,920 Speaker 1: addressing their blatant hypocrisy. How do you refer to yourself 443 00:28:10,640 --> 00:28:13,960 Speaker 1: as the party of family values but tell people to 444 00:28:14,040 --> 00:28:16,760 Speaker 1: allow their babies to starve. I think what they're telling 445 00:28:16,840 --> 00:28:20,440 Speaker 1: us is they are okay with babies starving as long 446 00:28:20,480 --> 00:28:22,880 Speaker 1: as they are black babies, brown babies, and people who 447 00:28:22,920 --> 00:28:26,040 Speaker 1: do not have the means to be able to travel 448 00:28:26,119 --> 00:28:30,400 Speaker 1: or to ship formula. In this is not only an 449 00:28:30,440 --> 00:28:34,200 Speaker 1: issue of class, it's definitely one of race as well. 450 00:28:34,240 --> 00:28:36,600 Speaker 1: And we damn sure no, it's about gender. It is 451 00:28:36,680 --> 00:28:40,360 Speaker 1: all the top tier systems of oppression at play here. 452 00:28:40,720 --> 00:28:44,520 Speaker 1: And it is so incredibly hypocritical for individuals to say 453 00:28:44,520 --> 00:28:47,280 Speaker 1: they care so much about children, especially since we're seeing 454 00:28:47,280 --> 00:28:50,080 Speaker 1: so much of this quote unquote groomer narrative, which is 455 00:28:50,160 --> 00:28:53,560 Speaker 1: just completely out of control and ridiculous. And yet when 456 00:28:53,600 --> 00:28:56,680 Speaker 1: you actually have an opportunity to protect children in a 457 00:28:56,720 --> 00:28:59,239 Speaker 1: way that is one of the most basic fundamentals of 458 00:28:59,240 --> 00:29:02,480 Speaker 1: getting them new Christian and food, you say no, no, 459 00:29:02,600 --> 00:29:05,360 Speaker 1: That shows me who you really are. That truly shows 460 00:29:05,360 --> 00:29:06,920 Speaker 1: me who you really are, which, as far as I'm 461 00:29:06,920 --> 00:29:13,680 Speaker 1: concerned at damn pool, I mean and just vial right like, 462 00:29:13,800 --> 00:29:17,040 Speaker 1: because it is. It is really when we think about 463 00:29:17,080 --> 00:29:22,200 Speaker 1: the ways in which the Republican Party has decided to 464 00:29:23,000 --> 00:29:26,640 Speaker 1: not support a child tax credit, not support the production 465 00:29:26,640 --> 00:29:30,920 Speaker 1: of baby formula, not to support universal pre k, not 466 00:29:31,000 --> 00:29:35,000 Speaker 1: to support any of the mechanisms that would allow people 467 00:29:35,040 --> 00:29:37,560 Speaker 1: in this country, all people in this country, including the 468 00:29:37,600 --> 00:29:40,320 Speaker 1: only people that they care about, which are white families, 469 00:29:40,600 --> 00:29:45,640 Speaker 1: to be able to have safe, healthy families, right, and 470 00:29:45,680 --> 00:29:49,720 Speaker 1: they vote against this all the time. What do you say, though, 471 00:29:50,800 --> 00:29:55,480 Speaker 1: again to Democrats who are not pushing back with the 472 00:29:55,560 --> 00:29:59,200 Speaker 1: kind of urgency and force that they need to in 473 00:29:59,280 --> 00:30:03,640 Speaker 1: order to pay the picture right now of our dystopian present, 474 00:30:03,680 --> 00:30:07,400 Speaker 1: because it's not even a dystopian future, because the future 475 00:30:07,520 --> 00:30:10,240 Speaker 1: is actually here, right And if you've been living in 476 00:30:10,280 --> 00:30:12,840 Speaker 1: these red states and our person of color who is 477 00:30:12,880 --> 00:30:16,960 Speaker 1: also low income or from another marginalized community, you've already 478 00:30:16,960 --> 00:30:21,080 Speaker 1: been experiencing this. What are they missing? You know? I 479 00:30:21,080 --> 00:30:23,520 Speaker 1: think so much of the frustration with the Democratic Party 480 00:30:23,680 --> 00:30:26,000 Speaker 1: is the fact that they're fighting with kid gloves. It's 481 00:30:26,120 --> 00:30:28,080 Speaker 1: you know, the GOP has had gloves off for a 482 00:30:28,120 --> 00:30:30,560 Speaker 1: long time. They're out here in the octagon doing all 483 00:30:30,640 --> 00:30:33,800 Speaker 1: sorts of nonsense and mess. They have dropped any kind 484 00:30:33,840 --> 00:30:37,240 Speaker 1: of gentleman's agreement or sense of decency, and yet the 485 00:30:37,280 --> 00:30:39,600 Speaker 1: Democrats are still here acting like it's a tea party 486 00:30:39,800 --> 00:30:42,040 Speaker 1: and nobody have time for that. The fact is we 487 00:30:42,080 --> 00:30:44,760 Speaker 1: need people who are heavy hitters, who are out here 488 00:30:44,760 --> 00:30:46,840 Speaker 1: willing to take the gloves off, who are willing to 489 00:30:46,880 --> 00:30:49,720 Speaker 1: fight at the level that's necessary to not only save 490 00:30:49,720 --> 00:30:52,760 Speaker 1: our democracy because as far as I'm concerned, that stuff 491 00:30:52,880 --> 00:30:56,160 Speaker 1: is gone, but at least to avoid that dystopian reality 492 00:30:56,240 --> 00:30:58,160 Speaker 1: that is standing right in front of us. And the 493 00:30:58,240 --> 00:31:01,280 Speaker 1: fact is, if we don't get heavy hit in positions 494 00:31:01,320 --> 00:31:06,120 Speaker 1: to disrupt the status quo, then what we're going to 495 00:31:06,280 --> 00:31:08,440 Speaker 1: end up is with the status quo that's more a 496 00:31:08,480 --> 00:31:12,400 Speaker 1: reflection of a Handmaid's Tale dystopia, or we're just going 497 00:31:12,440 --> 00:31:15,280 Speaker 1: to end up quote, We're going to position ourselves so 498 00:31:15,280 --> 00:31:21,239 Speaker 1: that we completely totally implode as a nation. Do you 499 00:31:21,400 --> 00:31:26,160 Speaker 1: think that there is an opportunity to turn this Titanic around? 500 00:31:26,880 --> 00:31:30,280 Speaker 1: Or Adrian is this is the decision with Rowe, the 501 00:31:30,360 --> 00:31:34,720 Speaker 1: pending decision with Row, just the tipping point to where 502 00:31:34,840 --> 00:31:38,440 Speaker 1: you think and how far you think that this Republican 503 00:31:38,480 --> 00:31:42,400 Speaker 1: Party is willing to go. I want to say, I 504 00:31:42,400 --> 00:31:46,720 Speaker 1: don't have an answer. I think with this Titanic, I 505 00:31:46,760 --> 00:31:50,560 Speaker 1: just think it's going to sink because unfortunately, I don't 506 00:31:50,640 --> 00:31:55,520 Speaker 1: think that the Democrats have enough in them to actually 507 00:31:55,560 --> 00:31:58,960 Speaker 1: push back of the force that's necessary, and I think 508 00:31:59,000 --> 00:32:02,720 Speaker 1: that the GOP is just preserving its pockets in terms 509 00:32:02,720 --> 00:32:05,920 Speaker 1: of campaign contributions and the organizations and the companies that 510 00:32:05,960 --> 00:32:08,200 Speaker 1: continue to fund that. I think that the thing that 511 00:32:08,240 --> 00:32:13,920 Speaker 1: will make things change is Boycott's is public pressure, because 512 00:32:13,960 --> 00:32:16,560 Speaker 1: the companies are the ones really running the game, and 513 00:32:16,640 --> 00:32:19,520 Speaker 1: so if the ones that are paying these lawmakers in 514 00:32:19,640 --> 00:32:23,320 Speaker 1: terms of the decisions that they make, if those payments stop, 515 00:32:23,480 --> 00:32:25,600 Speaker 1: or if there are threats that come with those payments, 516 00:32:26,160 --> 00:32:28,480 Speaker 1: then that's the only way that the laws are going 517 00:32:28,560 --> 00:32:31,640 Speaker 1: to change. But as of right now, I can't see 518 00:32:31,680 --> 00:32:38,040 Speaker 1: us going anywhere but down. I worry for and I 519 00:32:38,840 --> 00:32:41,840 Speaker 1: want to pivot for a moment to the massacre that 520 00:32:41,920 --> 00:32:46,560 Speaker 1: happened in Buffalo, to ten black people going about their 521 00:32:46,600 --> 00:32:52,400 Speaker 1: black lives on a Saturday, the murder, the deaths ranging 522 00:32:52,440 --> 00:32:55,400 Speaker 1: from thirty two years old to eighty six years old, 523 00:32:56,000 --> 00:32:59,160 Speaker 1: right to a father that was picking up cupcakes for 524 00:32:59,240 --> 00:33:04,560 Speaker 1: his son's third birthday, to a grandmother that was going 525 00:33:04,600 --> 00:33:09,920 Speaker 1: to be preparing Sunday dinner gone. The only reason why 526 00:33:09,960 --> 00:33:12,640 Speaker 1: the media, I believe, is even talking about this as 527 00:33:12,680 --> 00:33:16,960 Speaker 1: an act of racism is because the shooter, the terrorist, 528 00:33:17,360 --> 00:33:20,480 Speaker 1: said so himself in a hundred and eighty page manifesto. 529 00:33:21,280 --> 00:33:24,720 Speaker 1: If he had not offered though all of those pages 530 00:33:24,720 --> 00:33:28,000 Speaker 1: that pretty much read like segments on Fox News. Do 531 00:33:28,040 --> 00:33:30,800 Speaker 1: you think that the media would have come to that 532 00:33:30,880 --> 00:33:35,080 Speaker 1: conclusion or we again are allowing the perpetua, the perpetrators 533 00:33:35,120 --> 00:33:38,840 Speaker 1: of violence, to be able to tell us why they 534 00:33:38,880 --> 00:33:41,239 Speaker 1: have done this violence as opposed to listening to the 535 00:33:41,320 --> 00:33:45,200 Speaker 1: victims of said violence. I don't think that the media 536 00:33:45,520 --> 00:33:47,920 Speaker 1: would call him a racist if he didn't call himself that. 537 00:33:48,320 --> 00:33:50,160 Speaker 1: But I also don't think that all of the media 538 00:33:50,240 --> 00:33:52,200 Speaker 1: is calling him racist. Some of them are out here 539 00:33:52,840 --> 00:33:57,320 Speaker 1: trying to label him as mentally unstable, trying to suggest 540 00:33:57,360 --> 00:34:00,200 Speaker 1: that racism is a mental health issue as opposed to 541 00:34:00,320 --> 00:34:04,120 Speaker 1: a choice. People are completely and totally sane when they 542 00:34:04,240 --> 00:34:07,440 Speaker 1: decide that because of your Melano account, you are lesser 543 00:34:07,480 --> 00:34:09,279 Speaker 1: than I am. That is not a mental health issue, 544 00:34:09,280 --> 00:34:11,839 Speaker 1: and it also does a disservice to individuals who have 545 00:34:11,960 --> 00:34:14,799 Speaker 1: mental health issues. Let's talk about racism as it really is, 546 00:34:14,840 --> 00:34:17,400 Speaker 1: because it sits in so many people's hearts in this nation, 547 00:34:17,800 --> 00:34:20,520 Speaker 1: and so many people are trying to avoid that label 548 00:34:20,960 --> 00:34:23,279 Speaker 1: because they just don't want to be branded that way. 549 00:34:23,280 --> 00:34:25,720 Speaker 1: But it does not mean that they aren't that way, 550 00:34:25,880 --> 00:34:29,320 Speaker 1: and that their behavior isn't a reflection of racist rhetoric 551 00:34:29,760 --> 00:34:33,520 Speaker 1: that we often see, unfortunately also spewed by the media. So, 552 00:34:33,600 --> 00:34:37,040 Speaker 1: as far as I'm concerned, it's not getting the level 553 00:34:37,280 --> 00:34:41,640 Speaker 1: of just attention that it deserves and also to be 554 00:34:41,800 --> 00:34:50,280 Speaker 1: cast in the correct light. Last question for you is this, 555 00:34:50,280 --> 00:34:52,480 Speaker 1: this is a connection. And again, I'm not a lawyer. 556 00:34:52,520 --> 00:34:54,320 Speaker 1: I tell people all the time, I'm not a lawyer, 557 00:34:55,440 --> 00:35:00,799 Speaker 1: but I know enough to ask the right questions. Rittenhouse 558 00:35:01,000 --> 00:35:06,080 Speaker 1: drove hundreds of miles across two different states within AAR 559 00:35:06,200 --> 00:35:10,919 Speaker 1: fifteen over his shoulder, went to Wisconsin, shot and killed 560 00:35:10,920 --> 00:35:15,399 Speaker 1: two people, wounded a third. Federal judge let him off 561 00:35:16,320 --> 00:35:20,640 Speaker 1: right because apparently Kyle Rittenhouse was in fact standing some 562 00:35:20,680 --> 00:35:23,279 Speaker 1: type of ground. I have no idea. What when you 563 00:35:23,360 --> 00:35:26,480 Speaker 1: insert yourself into a peaceful protest and open up fire. 564 00:35:27,440 --> 00:35:32,480 Speaker 1: What's the difference legally, in all honesty, between the Buffalo 565 00:35:32,640 --> 00:35:37,160 Speaker 1: terrorists driving two hundred miles with an AAR fifteen and 566 00:35:37,239 --> 00:35:41,200 Speaker 1: other weapons and opening up fire in a grocery store, 567 00:35:41,800 --> 00:35:46,799 Speaker 1: right Like, it's the same behavior. And so I just 568 00:35:47,000 --> 00:35:49,279 Speaker 1: want to I want you to explain to to to 569 00:35:49,800 --> 00:35:54,240 Speaker 1: my audience it is there a difference? Am I? Am? I? Am? I? Crazy, 570 00:35:55,520 --> 00:35:58,640 Speaker 1: So you know, I would say it's the same kind 571 00:35:58,680 --> 00:36:03,880 Speaker 1: of sentiment definitely there in terms of I believe it's 572 00:36:03,920 --> 00:36:08,040 Speaker 1: definitely racially backed, racially motivated, without question. The thing is, 573 00:36:08,040 --> 00:36:10,719 Speaker 1: the facts are just so incredibly different in terms of 574 00:36:10,719 --> 00:36:13,719 Speaker 1: Written House, because Written House was in a situation where 575 00:36:13,719 --> 00:36:18,360 Speaker 1: he did have that completely unnecessary firearm with him. But 576 00:36:18,440 --> 00:36:20,560 Speaker 1: there was a gentleman, one of the gentlemen. I believe 577 00:36:20,600 --> 00:36:22,520 Speaker 1: it is the one who lost his life, that he 578 00:36:23,120 --> 00:36:26,360 Speaker 1: had become to some extent, the aggressor in the situation. 579 00:36:27,080 --> 00:36:30,160 Speaker 1: But I still very much of the mindset that if 580 00:36:30,200 --> 00:36:33,799 Speaker 1: you show up to a party with a gun in 581 00:36:33,840 --> 00:36:35,600 Speaker 1: some way, and you show up to a rout, you 582 00:36:35,719 --> 00:36:39,880 Speaker 1: have that mindset that what happens is a product of 583 00:36:39,960 --> 00:36:42,920 Speaker 1: your doing. But also too, when we look at what 584 00:36:43,040 --> 00:36:47,120 Speaker 1: happened in Kenosha, Wisconsin, especially with the judge and that 585 00:36:47,239 --> 00:36:50,920 Speaker 1: interaction with the judiciary, that was not a reflection of 586 00:36:51,080 --> 00:36:54,080 Speaker 1: justice as far as I am concerned. For example, that 587 00:36:54,200 --> 00:36:56,680 Speaker 1: judge making the decision in terms of the applicability of 588 00:36:56,719 --> 00:36:58,799 Speaker 1: the law, leading until the last minute to make that 589 00:36:58,880 --> 00:37:03,799 Speaker 1: decision so that the prosecutors couldn't appeal it. Those kind 590 00:37:03,840 --> 00:37:07,600 Speaker 1: of things were strategic actions that I believe they robbed 591 00:37:07,680 --> 00:37:12,040 Speaker 1: the state of justice and we have the results as 592 00:37:12,080 --> 00:37:15,040 Speaker 1: we have them. And the thing is is that something 593 00:37:15,120 --> 00:37:19,439 Speaker 1: again democrats being able to truly value that third branch 594 00:37:19,440 --> 00:37:22,080 Speaker 1: of government, the judiciary, and ensured that there are judges 595 00:37:22,080 --> 00:37:24,640 Speaker 1: on the bench who truly are a reflection of society 596 00:37:24,640 --> 00:37:28,520 Speaker 1: and aren't not looking to protect individuals who have this 597 00:37:28,680 --> 00:37:32,640 Speaker 1: racist mindset and show up to protests talking about shooting 598 00:37:32,640 --> 00:37:36,880 Speaker 1: people and bringing guns. Our society is so incredibly broken 599 00:37:37,480 --> 00:37:40,120 Speaker 1: and through and there are too many people who are 600 00:37:40,160 --> 00:37:42,879 Speaker 1: not here for democracy, are not here for justice, and 601 00:37:43,000 --> 00:37:46,360 Speaker 1: do not in any way intend on applying that whole 602 00:37:46,400 --> 00:37:50,279 Speaker 1: life liberty in pursuit of happiness in an equitable way 603 00:37:50,360 --> 00:37:54,280 Speaker 1: across society, but are very much in terms of selective enforcement. 604 00:37:54,640 --> 00:37:57,560 Speaker 1: And so again I don't think there's necessarily a way 605 00:37:57,560 --> 00:37:59,959 Speaker 1: to write the ship. I just think that the ship 606 00:38:00,400 --> 00:38:07,239 Speaker 1: going down. Oh, Adrian Lawrence, thank you so much for 607 00:38:07,400 --> 00:38:10,239 Speaker 1: making the time to join us on woke F The 608 00:38:10,320 --> 00:38:13,120 Speaker 1: show is overruled and the book is staying in the 609 00:38:13,160 --> 00:38:16,040 Speaker 1: game of folks, So be sure to check those two 610 00:38:16,080 --> 00:38:18,160 Speaker 1: things out. Adrian. I hope that you'll come back and 611 00:38:18,280 --> 00:38:21,360 Speaker 1: join us again soon. Hey, I'm David Plots of slates 612 00:38:21,360 --> 00:38:26,120 Speaker 1: Political gap Fest. 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