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Speaker 2: Joe.
Speaker 1: I don't know what you guys called end of your season,
Speaker 1: but in the NFL, Monday it's called Black Monday because
Speaker 1: that's when a lot of organizations turn over them fired
Speaker 1: their coaches and go in a different direction. Sometimes they
Speaker 1: fired general managers and coaches. Sometimes it's just a coach.
Speaker 1: But in this situation, we're gonna start off with the
Speaker 1: Cleveland Browns. They have fired Kevin Stefanski after six years.
Speaker 1: He's a two time Coach of the Year, and he
Speaker 1: won Cleveland's first playoff game in more than twenty five years.
Speaker 1: Despite those accolades, Stefanski exit with a forty five and
Speaker 1: fifty six record and went eight and twenty six in
Speaker 1: his last two seasons. The majority of Stefanski's success came
Speaker 1: with Baker Mayfield, but the Browns have since traded him away.
Speaker 1: This is the list of passers in no particular order,
Speaker 1: that has come along since Baker, Deshaun Watson, Jacoby Brissett,
Speaker 1: Joe Flacco, Jamis Winston, Shador Sanders, Dylan Gabriel, Dorian Thompson, Robinson,
Speaker 1: PJ Walker, Dreft, Jeff Drisco, and Bailey Zappi.
Speaker 2: That's a lot of quarterbacks. Now.
Speaker 1: It was reported today and I don't know Pete Prisco
Speaker 1: who writes for cbssports dot com. He's reported that Stefanski
Speaker 1: never wanted DeShawn Watson O Joe if. I don't know
Speaker 1: if you saw it, but I was talking to John
Speaker 1: and I asked him. One of the reasons why I
Speaker 1: asked him, you know, one of his biggest regret is
Speaker 1: that he didn't take Josh Allen. And I said, well,
Speaker 1: why didn't you take him? He said, he said Sharpe,
Speaker 1: I just couldn't get the coaches to buy in. He
Speaker 1: was really, really raw and it was gonna take some
Speaker 1: time for him to develop.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 1: He didn't throw or or he turned the ball over
Speaker 1: and he didn't throw with a high completion. But I
Speaker 1: just couldn't get the coaches to buy in. And when
Speaker 1: you're talking about, you know, taking somebody with the fifth
Speaker 1: pick of the draft, and you're taking a big time
Speaker 1: fridge like at the quarterback position, like a DeShawn Watson,
Speaker 1: O Joe, you need everybody baught in.
Speaker 2: Can't nobody?
Speaker 1: There can't be any Luke Warn feeling well like yeah,
Speaker 1: I'll coach. No, we gotta be all bought in. Now,
Speaker 1: that's what Pete PRIs gonna say. We don't know that
Speaker 1: to be true. But what it did, because it hadn't
Speaker 1: worked out so far, Ojo, it kind of doomed franchise
Speaker 1: because think about what you gave up three first rounders,
Speaker 1: you gave up a second round. I think you gave
Speaker 1: a third round as find me all what they all
Speaker 1: gave up. And when it doesn't work out on.
Speaker 4: Joe, Yes, well, unc well, listen to you you ain't,
Speaker 4: Joe and Unk. I mean, this didn't doom the franchise.
Speaker 4: The franchise has been doomed before that situation even happened.
Speaker 4: They've been through thirty seven thousand quarterbacks. They haven't been
Speaker 4: able to find the one. Now, obviously, if Josh Allen,
Speaker 4: if they've gotten Josh Allen, despite what they might have
Speaker 4: seen on tape. Listen, when your draft regards to what round,
Speaker 4: regards of what pick, it's still hit or miss. No
Speaker 4: matter what. You can get somebody in the first round
Speaker 4: that played great in college, and it might it might
Speaker 4: not translate over into the NFL. It just happens like that.
Speaker 4: Sometime this year's draft, we're talking about some of the
Speaker 4: players that are coming into the draft. They're going to
Speaker 4: very bad teams. And when they go to these bad teams,
Speaker 4: some of these players that are going to go early
Speaker 4: aren't transcending talents. They're not generational talents, but they have
Speaker 4: a superior supporting cast on them in college, and therefore
Speaker 4: they're gonna go high to a very bad team and
Speaker 4: you're gonna wonder why they struggle. They struggle because of
Speaker 4: them having I mean them not having the tools and
Speaker 4: the supporting cast round when they get to these NFL teams,
Speaker 4: and it's a different ball game if you're not a
Speaker 4: transcending talent, which I really haven't seen. I'm talking about
Speaker 4: the generational talent that would show up right now in college.
Speaker 4: There is not that. That's there's not that coming into
Speaker 4: the draft, right It's not. I'm just being honest, and
Speaker 4: I'm not sure people in the chat, I'm not sure
Speaker 4: what you're watching. Even though college players that have played well,
Speaker 4: those college quarterbacks ain't no Lamar Jackson's ain't no Josh Allens,
Speaker 4: ain't no Joe Burrows, ain't no Patrick Mahomes. Now that
Speaker 4: there's a chance they could pan out to be that,
Speaker 4: but teams don't have the patience for that will happen, or.
Speaker 1: The coaching because if you go back and think about it, Oh,
Speaker 1: Joe Josh Allens Rooki Yell with a turnover machine, it
Speaker 1: wasn't until he got Brian day ball that he turned
Speaker 1: into the jaw the Josh Allen.
Speaker 2: That we see now.
Speaker 1: And the guy that's that's taken over has even taken
Speaker 1: him to a higher height and got him to an MVP.
Speaker 1: So that's the thing they're gonna be some rough spots,
Speaker 1: and the question is are we built to withstand those
Speaker 1: rough spots until he gets this thing figured out?
Speaker 4: And Joe, that's another thing, Joe and uncle. If you're
Speaker 4: not built, what you aren't gonna be. The Raiders aren't built.
Speaker 4: And whoever they pick, they're going to get a quarterback. Joe,
Speaker 4: they're going to get a quarterback. Do you trust Mark
Speaker 4: Davis and all the people that are in that building
Speaker 4: that are in positions of power to build a team
Speaker 4: around him to make sure he can be competent a
Speaker 4: good quarterback for the future, Because if you don't, what's
Speaker 4: gonna happen. That shit can be demoralizing, Joe. So you, Joe,
Speaker 4: you go into the wrong situation like that and it
Speaker 4: ain't got no helper, and you ain't got no help
Speaker 4: around you.
Speaker 2: I can imagine. I can imagine.
Speaker 4: You come from you come from a winning program, when
Speaker 4: you've won everything, and then you come to the NFL
Speaker 4: and it's a different ball game, Joe. It's the best
Speaker 4: of the best, and but it's levels to everything. It's
Speaker 4: the best of the best, and you're going early. But
Speaker 4: the team you're on is just not good. The players
Speaker 4: you're playing with even though they're part of the one percent,
Speaker 4: they're just not good.
Speaker 2: What'd you think of Joe? Man, we talked what team
Speaker 2: you'all talking about right.
Speaker 1: Now here, you're talking about quarterback top five top quarterbacks
Speaker 1: going to a bad situation because that's I know, I
Speaker 1: know we're talking.
Speaker 2: About the best players.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I know, to the worst teams and help bim,
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, they're not the worst teams anymore.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I know, I know you had said something about,
Speaker 5: you know, these coaches getting fired even when I look, yeah,
Speaker 5: even when I look at the Cleveland situation. Man, you
Speaker 5: got a pretty good quarterback, okay, Ocho, why not just
Speaker 5: like beef up your offensive line, get get get some
Speaker 5: more weapons whoever you're gonna have back that throwing the
Speaker 5: ball at the end of the day. I mean, you
Speaker 5: to protect the quarterback and you gotta get you gotta
Speaker 5: give him some more weapons. From what I've been Yeah,
Speaker 5: they're definitely their wide receiver. You got Queen Jukins. We'll
Speaker 5: see how soon he can come back. That's will he
Speaker 5: come well, I mean, is he gonna miss time?
Speaker 3: On Joe?
Speaker 1: You know he had a serious injury. Will he miss time?
Speaker 1: Will he be back for OTA's will he be ready,
Speaker 1: ready for training camp?
Speaker 2: How soon?
Speaker 1: And will he be back? I think the thing is
Speaker 1: Oho is that. But see, when you get a twenty
Speaker 1: six year old that's proven, it's supposed to be can't missed.
Speaker 1: We're not talking about a guy out of college, Ohoe.
Speaker 1: We're talking about a guy that at the time that
Speaker 1: they signed him, he was a top five quarterback. Everybody
Speaker 1: had Deshaun Watson in their top five. So that's not
Speaker 1: a situation where we're getting a guy that's never played,
Speaker 1: never thrown an NFL football, never doesn't know what it's
Speaker 1: like to go to NFL meetings and lead a huddle
Speaker 1: in command and beat a voice of men among men's.
Speaker 1: That's Deshaun Watson, twenty six years of age. He had
Speaker 1: just led the league in passing, had been a profole player,
Speaker 1: so he was supposed to be can't missed. You get
Speaker 1: Tom Brady, you get Tom Brady going to Tampa, he
Speaker 1: can't miss You get Peyton Manny. Granted, now Peyton Manny
Speaker 1: was he had the elbow, the nerve, and the nerve
Speaker 1: in snack O Joe. But based on that, if everything
Speaker 1: checked out, if he could throw the ball forty yards
Speaker 1: Peyton Manny was supposed to be can't miss. That was
Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson, twenty six years of age, fully healthy, just
Speaker 1: let the league in passing, and he against the Cleveland
Speaker 1: and for whatever reason, I'm like, I don't know this guy.
Speaker 1: I don't know this guy. This is not the guy
Speaker 1: that came from Houston. O Joe, I don't know it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, and.
Speaker 1: You're right, Cleveland, you need wide receivers. You got a
Speaker 1: great tight end, but it doesn't hurt to have another one. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Knox and Kincaid. Did you see how they got that
Speaker 1: in Buffalo?
Speaker 4: On Joe, hold on? What about what about the Bear?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Loveland, Yeah, you got Warren, you got more Ali
Speaker 1: Cox and the Coats, you got too tight ends. You
Speaker 1: got Strange and the other guy at Jacksonville. So they
Speaker 1: need weapons. They need to be beef up. That offensive line.
Speaker 1: The offensive line is just not good enough right now. Man,
Speaker 1: They're not good enough right now. But you need weapons.
Speaker 1: But you can't keep you can't keep shuttling quarterbacks in
Speaker 1: and out. Yeah, you mentioned Mark Davis. I ain't got
Speaker 1: no problem with Mark Davis because Mark Davis will now
Speaker 1: he's not like his dad. He's not meddlesome like his dad.
Speaker 1: He trust the people that he hired. The people that
Speaker 1: he hired just fed it up because he didn't want
Speaker 1: to find John Gruden. The NFL pay. Yeah, and he's
Speaker 1: one of those. He's one of those owners. He's not
Speaker 1: like his dad. They'd have never made his dad fire anybody.
Speaker 1: He's like, fire him. He wouldn't hire some more of
Speaker 1: his family just.
Speaker 2: That by show you didn't catch you see? I called
Speaker 2: it the real He's like that.
Speaker 1: That's not how his son is. His son is like, Okay,
Speaker 1: I'll toe the company line. I'll do everything. Jerry has
Speaker 1: replaced his dad as the outlaw man. I'm gonna do it.
Speaker 1: What the hell I say. I pay for this team.
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna let you tell me what to do.
Speaker 1: A boss me around. But o, Joe, here's what Jimmy
Speaker 1: Haslam had to say about the state of the Browns.
Speaker 2: And I want you to hear this.
Speaker 1: Okay. First of all, ownership takes full responsibility for where
Speaker 1: we are.
Speaker 2: To win eight games in two years is horrible.
Speaker 1: It's totally unacceptable, okay, and it's not gonna continue, okay.
Speaker 1: And I want the fans to know we are as
Speaker 1: frustrated as you are.
Speaker 4: Hey, is one thing, hey, listen, ownership, ownership, Hey, unk,
Speaker 4: This is the funny thing about it. Ownership takes full responsibility.
Speaker 4: The hey owners can't get fired. Hey, Joe, I know, Hey,
Speaker 4: the people, Hey, the people that own, they can't get fired.
Speaker 1: Four hundred probably four hundred and four twenty five coming,
Speaker 1: oh Joe in March.
Speaker 4: What that means?
Speaker 2: The TV contract every NFL's teams cut?
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, hey, so wait, oh four hundred and twenty
Speaker 4: five minutes? Yes, team, how much we getting out of that?
Speaker 2: We'll own no team? And oh show Now that's the
Speaker 2: TV cut. Now.
Speaker 1: We ain't say nothing about you selling tickets. We ain't
Speaker 1: say nothing about the local advertising it. We ain't say
Speaker 1: nothing about local TV, local sponsorship, We say nothing about parking,
Speaker 1: and we ain't say nothing by concession.
Speaker 4: Yeah, oh yeah, it added up. You ain't got to
Speaker 4: tell me twice. I understand the business side of things.
Speaker 4: I just don't like to talk about.
Speaker 2: It, okay.
Speaker 1: Brown's general manager Andrew Barry said today that he was
Speaker 1: noncommittal on the team starting quarterback for twenty twenty six,
Speaker 1: and then the new head coach will have his say
Speaker 1: in the decision.
Speaker 2: Barry said, we're.
Speaker 1: Going to do our work on the quarterback market is
Speaker 1: too important of a position and it's something that has
Speaker 1: to be solidified. I can't sit here and tell you
Speaker 1: today whether the starter in twenty twenty six is internal
Speaker 1: or external. But it's something that we're going to work
Speaker 1: through over the next several weeks. And quite honestly, the
Speaker 1: new head coach will also have a lot of input
Speaker 1: into that whip. Oh Joe, you see what he's saying. Yes,
Speaker 1: he said it's too important a position. He said, I
Speaker 1: can't sit here today and tell you an internal left
Speaker 1: quarter Oh. Edrew Berry said today that he was noncommental
Speaker 1: on the starring quarterback for the twenty twenty six Seeds,
Speaker 1: and the new head coach will have a say he
Speaker 1: should have be safe. You see what he did. He
Speaker 1: gonna put again, gonna put somebody on the head coach
Speaker 1: that maybe the head coach doesn't want.
Speaker 4: And then I'm it's like your grandma used to.
Speaker 2: Put that plate down for you. I won't that. Okay,
Speaker 2: do what out.
Speaker 4: But but obviously obviously Andrew Berry, they've made mistakes when
Speaker 4: it comes.
Speaker 1: Still got a job picking and I don't advocate anybody.
Speaker 1: I don't advocate anybody getting fired on YO. I'm just
Speaker 1: saying you found, okay Stefanski. And I'm not saying Stefanski
Speaker 1: didn't deserve to go. But I'm saying, who hires Stefanski,
Speaker 1: who brought all those players in? He did, so he
Speaker 1: bring all those players in, he stays and gets to
Speaker 1: hire another coach.
Speaker 2: M hmm okay.
Speaker 4: And and that's why they feel comfortable taking responsibility for
Speaker 4: all the losing because they're there's there's there's nothing that's
Speaker 4: going to happen to those who own. They just they're
Speaker 4: gonna they're gonna keep recycling coach after coach, quarterback at
Speaker 4: the quarterback at some point until until they get it.
Speaker 2: Joe. So let me get this right.
Speaker 1: Jimmy has them stood before the press today and said
Speaker 1: eight wins over the last two season is unacceptable? Is
Speaker 1: it unacceptable for the guy that hired that coach? M?
Speaker 1: I mean last I checked, I mean, you ain't get
Speaker 1: him off a hired app Well, I mean maybe maybe
Speaker 1: it was zip recruiter. You know they you know, you
Speaker 1: get these people gotta get all the emails and all
Speaker 1: these different you know, average hiring agencies.
Speaker 2: I heard you looking for work.
Speaker 4: Where you hear that from? I mean, you know you
Speaker 4: know what they all all these coaches that's getting fired.
Speaker 4: When coaches get fired in general, I mean it all
Speaker 4: comes down to one common denominator. Well, they don't have
Speaker 4: the goddamn players you need to have success. Because Sean
Speaker 4: mcvain going nowhere. Bill Belichick lasted twenty years. Look at
Speaker 4: all the coaches that have that have had long sustaining careers.
Speaker 4: They've always been able to compete.
Speaker 1: In kranky Sean McVay says, Look, I understand you took
Speaker 1: this guy number one, but I can't win with him.
Speaker 1: I've gone as far as I can go with him.
Speaker 1: We need to do something. Now, you tell me what
Speaker 1: other code you're gonna have an input that says, you
Speaker 1: know what, We're gonna trade our number one pick, give
Speaker 1: up first rounders. We will need Matt Stafford. How many
Speaker 1: owners gonna do that?
Speaker 2: O Joe?
Speaker 4: Well, not not exactly, but obviously wait hold on, this
Speaker 4: is the thing, HUK. When you have someone like Mats
Speaker 4: Stafford available, you're willing to pull a trigger because you
Speaker 4: know what you're getting. You take Mats Stafford out of
Speaker 4: goddamn Detroit, right, and you put them on a team
Speaker 4: that is already ready. I'm not comparing it to Tom
Speaker 4: brady situation and him leaving the Patriots of going to
Speaker 4: goddamn Tampa Bay, but goddamn is damn show close. Yes,
Speaker 4: it's damn so close because once he got the goddamn
Speaker 4: LA What the fuck happened?
Speaker 1: Ojo' difference between Tampa Bay and and and Stafford. Tampa
Speaker 1: Bay got him for free. It's like you a, It's
Speaker 1: like you dropped man. Remember John Elways said Peyton Manny
Speaker 1: called him. I told the other teams, I'm not coming there,
Speaker 1: I'm coming to you, Okay. I guess we got Peyton.
Speaker 1: Tom Brady said, hey, I'm coming a todd light, I'm
Speaker 1: coming to Tampa.
Speaker 4: Yeah, hey, super a super Bowl ready.
Speaker 1: They was already built. They was already traded a number
Speaker 1: one and give up to first rounders. A lot of
Speaker 1: people are like, what if it? You start thinking, what
Speaker 1: if this doesn't work? We got to give up our
Speaker 1: first round of next year, and we got to give
Speaker 1: up other car I don't know about that, and we
Speaker 1: gotta pay it.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but uncle Joe, the pieces was already in place.
Speaker 4: The piece was already in place. Once he got to
Speaker 4: La where God damn Tom with the Tampa all they needed.
Speaker 6: They was missing that sentiment.
Speaker 1: But guess what they did and they allowed him to
Speaker 1: have some say he went and he walked, Hey, come
Speaker 1: on and Brown.
Speaker 4: Here, ab come on.
Speaker 2: Yes, and that was ice, that was icing on the cake.
Speaker 1: So I fake the finger. Andrew Berry picked those players.
Speaker 1: Now he done a great I mean Miles Garrett hit
Speaker 1: it out. The part got him.
Speaker 2: I love you love it.
Speaker 1: I don't know did he pick Baker Mayfield? Was he
Speaker 1: there for Baker Mayfield? Or was that the other guy?
Speaker 1: Did he who picked Baker Mayfield?
Speaker 6: Who's responsible for the Denzel Ward too?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Denzel was probably because he came after. He came after.
Speaker 1: Huh it wasn't they get Denzel Ward?
Speaker 4: It was?
Speaker 2: Okay, Oh he's the other guy, that baseball guy.
Speaker 1: Huh.
Speaker 5: Man o, Joe, the Browns can make it. They can
Speaker 5: make a big leap next year, man, silent defense. You
Speaker 5: get the weapons.
Speaker 6: They need by three pieces, Joe.
Speaker 1: Yeah, if you believe they got a quarter Okay, if
Speaker 1: you believe their quarterback is on the they need offensive line.
Speaker 1: That left tackle did you see that left tackle? Cam Robinson?
Speaker 1: I can't walk better than him. John Dorsey selected Baker. Uh,
Speaker 1: that's that's embarrassing. I mean to watch some of these guys.
Speaker 1: That's embarrassing that these guys are starting. I watched for
Speaker 1: uh uh for Leyley. Oh Joe, that's yeah, Oh Joe.
Speaker 1: He did he did his hand like this here, and
Speaker 1: both guys ran by. I said, you must be thank
Speaker 1: you school patrol. And you're gonna start some five year olds.
Speaker 1: Oh Joe, how you hold out both heads if both
Speaker 1: guys go by you? Hey, hey, they got that boy
Speaker 1: back that running through in life?
Speaker 2: Man.
Speaker 1: Lamar like, oh, y'all protected on this here? They ain't
Speaker 1: bring it before we got five protectors. I'm good. Labar said, damn.
Speaker 2: Were you? And how did you get back here this fast?
Speaker 4: That happened? That happened a few times.
Speaker 1: You look at what they did this year that had
Speaker 1: a Mason Graham. He started to come on. Uh uh
Speaker 1: Swettinger is that his name? He looked like he's gonna
Speaker 1: be defensive Rookie of the year. Junkins solid, really good
Speaker 1: half Fanning, Yes, he got pro bo potential.
Speaker 2: Uh. Dylan Gabriel, I don't know, I don't know. I
Speaker 2: don't know.
Speaker 1: Samson I like Judkins better than I like Samson and
Speaker 1: then your door. All I know is that he win.
Speaker 1: He he You can say what you well, the defense
Speaker 1: scored two touchdowns. Those two touchdowns. If he doesn't get
Speaker 1: them down there in field gold range, do they win
Speaker 1: the game?
Speaker 2: Mm hmm.
Speaker 1: Having a critical drive right there too. But see all
Speaker 1: of you do it does something getting them in feel
Speaker 1: gold range. He ain't do nothing. Anybody else didn't. He
Speaker 1: set them to ruining field goal.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, you know how that go the gold
Speaker 4: post move depending on who you're talking about and who
Speaker 4: it is.
Speaker 1: But that's that's okay, that's okay, that's Okayshaun has to
Speaker 1: come back, Joe. He's on the book for about fifty
Speaker 1: million guaranteed, so he has to come back for another year,
Speaker 1: ain't nobody. I mean, you could cut him, but nobody,
Speaker 1: you're not gonna You're not gonna be able to trade it.
Speaker 1: So you're gonnaet him infention. You stuck with him for
Speaker 1: it least at least one more year. It go. This
Speaker 1: is the worst trade in NFL history.
Speaker 2: It is.
Speaker 1: It is what it is. It is the worst trade
Speaker 1: because of the compensation that you gave up and the
Speaker 1: money that you paid him. He was the first to
Speaker 1: have a fully gain Oh yo. And the problem is, Joe,
Speaker 1: what made Cleveland it looks worse than what it was.
Speaker 1: He had not even started on the new contract, the
Speaker 1: extension that he signed.
Speaker 2: They gave him money on top of that.
Speaker 1: Oh Joe, he was about to start, and they say, no,
Speaker 1: guess what, we're gonna even give you more and to
Speaker 1: make it worse, We're gonna put it to make it
Speaker 1: better for you, worse for them. They fully guaranteed it,
Speaker 1: two hundred and thirty million, fully guaranteed.
Speaker 2: They expect this.
Speaker 4: Absolutely, not absolutely, that's what That's why they did it.
Speaker 2: That was a fool in Houston.
Speaker 4: Hey, Joe, he was a fool in Houston, and he
Speaker 4: had he didn't have no superstars joke he had he
Speaker 4: had Yeah, yeah, I think he had d Hop for
Speaker 4: one year before the hop with the Arizona I'm not mistaken.
Speaker 4: One year and the year when d Hop wasn't there,
Speaker 4: he still went crazy.
Speaker 2: Joe. Yeah, yeah, still went crazy.
Speaker 4: So they understood what they were getting. And because you
Speaker 4: understand that a premium passer like that at that age,
Speaker 4: that was able to do that without prefeer talent around him.
Speaker 4: Oh man, we got to have this because we haven't
Speaker 4: had we haven't had anything like that. It's so long
Speaker 4: since Auto Graham.
Speaker 5: But Uncle Ojo, he ain't played him. It's been a minute.
Speaker 5: Well he got hurt. Well, remember Joe, he got suspended.
Speaker 5: He missed the first eleven games. Think about it now,
Speaker 5: the previous year he didn't play.
Speaker 2: It's hard.
Speaker 1: I don't care how talent you are when you he
Speaker 1: missed the whole year. And then basically he missed two
Speaker 1: years because he missed the first eleven games. O't Joe.
Speaker 1: Then he comes back, plays five games. He doesn't look good,
Speaker 1: But you say, you know what, you get him in Ota,
Speaker 1: We get him in an offseason condition. We get him
Speaker 1: in our system. We'll be better. He gets hurt, He
Speaker 1: missed the rest all that season. He comes back, guess what,
Speaker 1: he gets hurt. Missed all that. So for the most part,
Speaker 1: he might have played fifteen, sixteen, seventeen games in about
Speaker 1: four years.
Speaker 4: Yeah, he hadn't had the opportunity to get back to
Speaker 4: himself if he wanted to.
Speaker 6: So I mean, maybe maybe this is his year, Joe,
Speaker 6: And maybe this is his year.
Speaker 4: He had he has he's at ample time to get
Speaker 4: himself back healthy, to get back to some form of
Speaker 4: what he used to be. And maybe if if they
Speaker 4: do their due diligence and bring talent, talent, two pieces.
Speaker 4: If he's gonna be your starting quarterback because you got
Speaker 4: fifty million on the books on him and you have
Speaker 4: no choice but to ride with him, you know what
Speaker 4: to do.
Speaker 2: When you stuck well to do You can cut him.
Speaker 1: I mean, you can release him, but you're still on
Speaker 1: fifty million guaranteed, O Joe.
Speaker 6: So you know they're not gonna do that.
Speaker 4: You know they're not gonna do that.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 4: I don't know, Joe. Honestly, I don't know either.
Speaker 1: I don't It's it's a very tough situation. We keep
Speaker 1: saying pieces. I don't give a damn what kind of
Speaker 1: pieces you get. This ain't no just ain't no puzzle.
Speaker 1: It ain't really that hard. If you don't get that
Speaker 1: foundational piece, which is the quarterback, you cannot build a
Speaker 1: team that's quality enough to get to where you want
Speaker 1: to go. It used to be you could, Ojoe. I
Speaker 1: bring my running game. I bring my defense, because defense travels,
Speaker 1: a run game travels. They change the rules your quarterback
Speaker 1: needs to travel and he needs to be able to
Speaker 1: make plays under the rest. That's the way it's set up. Now,
Speaker 1: go back and look at the quarterbacks that's been winning
Speaker 1: the Super Bowls. Yeah, they got great piece around them,
Speaker 1: but that guy's had to make plays, and right now
Speaker 1: Cleveland doesn't have that and they haven't had it in
Speaker 1: a long time. Seems to look it seems to me,
Speaker 1: at least at worst case, you could say, you know you,
Speaker 1: maybe you could have said that, hey, look, we like
Speaker 1: what we saw from Sanders. But they're noncommental. They say,
Speaker 1: we don't know if it's internal external, which means, hey,
Speaker 1: we don't know if the guy that's gonna lead us
Speaker 1: is on the roster or we're gonna have.
Speaker 2: To bring him in rights. They keeping everybody on their
Speaker 2: toes over there.
Speaker 6: They definitely a't gonna get no answer right now.
Speaker 4: God damn it.
Speaker 2: Hey, hey, I'm I'm like you.
Speaker 5: If they don't do nothing about that line, offensive line,
Speaker 5: damn who they get back that.
Speaker 2: They ain't gonna make a difference.
Speaker 1: Well, they better get no allows back there to play
Speaker 1: quarterback so he can take our running because they can't
Speaker 1: catch it. But other than that, it ain't gonna work.
Speaker 1: They need offensive line. They need offensive line. They need
Speaker 1: some receivers.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 1: I like Isaiah Bob, but they need they need a
Speaker 1: number one. They gotta go get a receiver. I like Fanning.
Speaker 1: I'm not saying you gotta try to find another fan
Speaker 1: but if you can have two solid tight ends, that
Speaker 1: can do some damage. But I think offensively you're good. Hey,
Speaker 1: I'll try to find another piece to go opposite of.
Speaker 1: Maybe you go out and get another corner, the pair
Speaker 1: of opposite of a Denzel. I like Delpit obviously, Miles
Speaker 1: Garrett is your lynch pin, your centerpiece, and he's gonna
Speaker 1: make everybody. Devin Bush played really well for him this year. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but it's Cleveland's just Uh. The Raiders have fired their
Speaker 1: head coach Pete Carroll after just one season. Carol said
Speaker 1: the Raiders would win a bunch of games in his
Speaker 1: first season. Instead, the Raiders finished three and fourteen, had
Speaker 1: a check but they got that number one pick. The
Speaker 1: Raiders were at the bottom of almost every category offensively
Speaker 1: and defense. The unit finished thirty first and pressures rap
Speaker 1: twenty seventh in sacked. Despite Max Crosby having ten this season,
Speaker 1: the Raiders are also looking to hire a financial advisor.
Speaker 2: That's what he should o. Joe.
Speaker 1: Think about all the coaches and they, oh, Antonio Piers
Speaker 1: eight million, Josh McDaniel ten million, John Gruden ten million,
Speaker 1: Pete Carroll sixteen million, Chip Kelly six million, and you
Speaker 1: got to break another head coach in and his staff
Speaker 1: to pay them.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but listen, if they need to hire if they
Speaker 4: need to hire a Joe, if they need to hire
Speaker 4: a financial advisor, yeah, right where they need to come.
Speaker 4: I'm right, I'm exactly who they need to call. Did Hey, listen,
Speaker 4: if there's anything I can get them out of that,
Speaker 4: don't worry about that. I can get them out of that.
Speaker 4: If it's anybody that knows and that's financially conscious and
Speaker 4: very savvy when it comes to spending and making sure
Speaker 4: it's me.
Speaker 2: It's too late. Oo, it's me.
Speaker 4: Well listen, it might be too late, but I will
Speaker 4: make sure they won't make any more goddamn mistakes and
Speaker 4: overspending from this point on. Now, bring bring me in
Speaker 4: the building.
Speaker 1: What here's the thing. When you fire a coach, you
Speaker 1: ain't got no choice. You on the hook for the
Speaker 1: book for his money.
Speaker 4: Well, listen, we gonna we're gonna be We're gonna be
Speaker 4: a lot more cautious on who we hire and making
Speaker 4: sure we allow that contract.
Speaker 1: You could have hired Bill Parker, you could have hired
Speaker 1: Bill Belichick your quarter that quarterback situation. You can be
Speaker 1: right here, yeah, right, hey.
Speaker 5: So if you're the Raiders, though, do you get one
Speaker 5: of these kids coming out the draft.
Speaker 1: Because I don't believe, I don't, Oh Joe, at some
Speaker 1: point in time, you gotta stop trying to get stuff.
Speaker 1: You gotta stop trying to like we used to call
Speaker 1: it second hand. You don't have oh, you know what to
Speaker 1: talk about second second hand? Man. It was a long
Speaker 1: time before I had a new car by something myself
Speaker 1: that somebody had to pass gas in it. I want
Speaker 1: to be the person but to pass gas in this car. So,
Speaker 1: oh Joe, you know you're getting second hand stuff. I
Speaker 1: think that needs to move on from that second hand
Speaker 1: and get a quarterback of their own.
Speaker 4: And where you're gonna come from.
Speaker 1: Look the kid from Indiana, Indiana or the kid from
Speaker 1: the Organ they're coming out.
Speaker 2: It's too much money, not too they ain't gonna get it.
Speaker 6: As old joke, No, you put them, you put them
Speaker 6: young bulls in that environment. Have you seen August team?
Speaker 6: Have you seen Indiana? And what you think gonna happen
Speaker 6: to either one of them? If they go to the Raiders?
Speaker 6: What is gonna what they're gonna look like?
Speaker 4: You already know.
Speaker 1: Look, they're they're a long ways away. They need they
Speaker 1: need offensive line, they need defensive players. Look, you gotta
Speaker 1: trade Metrosby. He's the only thing, that's the only thing
Speaker 1: of value that you have that can bring you back
Speaker 1: draft compensation to help you build up. That's the only
Speaker 1: thing of value you got. That's the only thing that
Speaker 1: you can trade. So you're gonna have to trade him
Speaker 1: and and and and get the first and the third
Speaker 1: and the second next year, right, and you got a
Speaker 1: first this year.
Speaker 2: But oh you gotta hit. You gotta hit.
Speaker 4: And that's hard is making sure. It's like going to
Speaker 4: the goddamn casino playing rolette, you know, let you never know.
Speaker 1: Yes, the same thing though, Yeah, I get you. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you spend the ball and you spend the wheel, yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and the numbers yeah, man, come on, man, why
Speaker 4: y'all always corrected?
Speaker 1: Yeah, look you got it. You got Rock Bowers. He's
Speaker 1: one of your top tight ends in the league. So
Speaker 1: you gotta pass catching tight end. You need a receiver.
Speaker 1: You you went into the draft. You got a back
Speaker 1: last year. You need somebody to block for the back.
Speaker 1: You need somebody to block for your quarterback. You got
Speaker 1: you got h Christy, Max troxcuse me, Crosby that he
Speaker 1: can he can. You're not trading. You're not trading brock Bowers.
Speaker 1: The reason why they mentioned him because you're.
Speaker 2: Not trading him.
Speaker 1: No, No, Max Cross can trade and get that can
Speaker 1: help you build this thing back up, because that's really
Speaker 1: the only thing that you have a valuable, that value
Speaker 1: that you're willing to move.
Speaker 2: Mm hmm.
Speaker 1: You gotta start with that foundational piece. Ochoe at the
Speaker 1: end of the day. Yeah, I mean, if you got
Speaker 1: a house, o Joe, what you're gonna get? What's the
Speaker 1: first thing you go buy?
Speaker 2: What? What can't you live without?
Speaker 4: I'm hoping you say furniture.
Speaker 2: I would give you.
Speaker 1: I give you five hundred dollars and you got to
Speaker 1: get one piece, damn in the house. TV man, that's accessory.
Speaker 1: Hey not when you got a phone, I can do that.
Speaker 1: I can watch all that stuff with my phone.
Speaker 4: I mean, okay, okay, Damn That's a good one, because
Speaker 4: the first thing I think about by getting the house
Speaker 4: is I need some furniure I got to have somewhere
Speaker 4: the lady lay in my head and a TV. I'm
Speaker 4: trying to think what else.
Speaker 2: I can speak for experience. I bought a house. To me,
Speaker 2: it was over budget.
Speaker 1: Jo, you know what I'm saying that My people don't
Speaker 1: me say, Shannon, you can spend four hundred and twenty
Speaker 1: five thousand, I said, I got you four twenty five.
Speaker 1: I get a figure on hog for four twenty five.
Speaker 1: First house the lady showed me with six twenty five.
Speaker 1: I said, why are you show me in the mouse?
Speaker 1: You know I can't afford this. Let's go somewhere else.
Speaker 1: But I said, before we go somewhere else, let me
Speaker 1: look around. You know what I'm saying, Joe, Oh, Joe,
Speaker 1: I said, before we go. Since we here, now I
Speaker 1: buy as well look around. I put my hands in
Speaker 1: walking there.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Hey, that's the game they play on it.
Speaker 2: Oh man, big old. I ain't never seen no walk
Speaker 2: in shower.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, I mean our towels were the same place
Speaker 1: my jeans were. You know, I could go get a
Speaker 1: pair of jeans. I ain't get a towel. So you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, I ain't never seen no Linny closet. Lenny.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah. I walked down. She opened the door. I
Speaker 2: go down.
Speaker 1: I said, this a basement, I said, I said, what
Speaker 1: is that? At the time, I ain't know what it was.
Speaker 1: I said, what is this called? She said, it's a
Speaker 1: basement and it's finished.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I walk it down there, carpeting three thousand square foot.
Speaker 1: I said, damn, I could just imagine what I could
Speaker 1: be doing in here.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, a lot of trampoline. Ass you know what I'm saying. Oh, Joe,
Speaker 1: trampoline your twenty five I fige trampoline. It's okay, I said, okay,
Speaker 1: this is a little bit out of my budget. Let
Speaker 1: me see the other houses.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, said Joe. Oh Joe, I said, let
Speaker 2: me see the bad one. Hey, then four twenty five?
Speaker 2: May hear that like that? Okay?
Speaker 1: She said, well okay, mister sharp, this is like this
Speaker 1: is like four thirty five to four fifty she saw
Speaker 1: she I sold those houses.
Speaker 2: I walked there, hadn't hand the pocket just like that
Speaker 2: right here.
Speaker 1: I don't want this. I go to the other with y'all. Yo,
Speaker 1: same thing, hands in my pocket. I look around up,
Speaker 1: I said, look, go back and look at the other house,
Speaker 1: look at the how the first time you showed me
Speaker 1: that first when you showed me she said, you sure,
Speaker 1: mister sharp, because they told me the budget.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I go back there. I started started flagging.
Speaker 1: I said, I'm right here in the heart of Buckhead, man,
Speaker 1: I'm there. I can walk the Philis Flatts, so I
Speaker 1: can walk to Lenox Mall. Yes, I can walk to
Speaker 1: the movie theaters that's in fields Platters because back then, Joe,
Speaker 1: I don't know if you remember, Oh, when you got there,
Speaker 1: they used to have a movie theater in Lenox Mall. Yeah,
Speaker 1: over till old boy got shot. A dude got shot there.
Speaker 1: But it was you didn't want to go there. I'll
Speaker 1: tell you about that later, Joe. But anyway, yeah, I said,
Speaker 1: I was thinking about it. I remember she dropped me
Speaker 1: back because at the time she dropped me back at
Speaker 1: the hotel. Yeah, she said, what do you think, mister Sharp?
Speaker 1: I said, I think I'm about to be over budget.
Speaker 1: I said, I think over budget. Hey, that's how they
Speaker 1: got me, you know who. I bought the sugar y
Speaker 1: Letonar's ex wife, Juanita.
Speaker 2: I did, boy, they got you. Hey, they got you,
Speaker 2: just how they got me.
Speaker 4: I they got Joe, Ojoe.
Speaker 5: I'm out here, supposed to be looking for me a
Speaker 5: nice little townhouse. I just come from Phoenix, ya out
Speaker 5: here to Atlanta. Okay, uh man uh you know Sharif
Speaker 5: abdul raheem. He just built this house out here in
Speaker 5: Sandy Springs. Yes, he's been living in in six months.
Speaker 5: I said, we can go by there. We come by here, o, Joe.
Speaker 5: I'm still in the house, and we come back, Ojoe,
Speaker 5: we come by here. They got the chef in there.
Speaker 5: He got everything whipped up, right, man, I supposed to
Speaker 5: be looking at the townhouse.
Speaker 2: It's fourteen. Look, you ain't finna take me go look
Speaker 2: at no town.
Speaker 1: I don't know why you, Joe, why not start with
Speaker 1: the four twenty fives first? Right?
Speaker 2: Why you start with this? If they I'm about to
Speaker 2: go to that hold.
Speaker 4: On, time out, my time out, time out.
Speaker 2: Let.
Speaker 4: Let's slow down a little bit, because Joe just through
Speaker 4: the out there like I like, we me and the
Speaker 4: chat ain't hear him?
Speaker 2: Just say, honey, I'm just keeping it one.
Speaker 4: Feen thousand square feet. Boy, boy, you in Buckingham.
Speaker 2: Palace, O Joe, O Joe, O Joe.
Speaker 5: Listen, look boy, I had to have a long talk
Speaker 5: with my mama about this was.
Speaker 4: Townhouse.
Speaker 2: I ain't been to go to no town.
Speaker 4: Hey Joe, Hey Joe, I got to. I got to
Speaker 4: come out there and all. Let you.
Speaker 2: You gotta come see me, Come see me.
Speaker 4: Hey, you like you said your property, that's a property.
Speaker 1: Ain't no house, hey, O Joe, thiss o Joe, it
Speaker 1: ain't just the house. I got three kids all over three? Oh,
Speaker 1: I said, man, how amouna make this work? I was like, oh,
Speaker 1: I said man, O Joe swept for guard and two
Speaker 1: white men. I would even catch up with a mith needle.
Speaker 1: Bad look at you. I ain't no man, I ain't
Speaker 1: never ain't so much tuna, oat meal and eggs in
Speaker 1: my life.
Speaker 4: Man.
Speaker 2: I went to Sam's. I was I was buying like
Speaker 2: seven eight dozen, like twenty dozen eggs at a time.
Speaker 2: I was getting. I was getting palettes of tuna. That's
Speaker 2: what I'm like. I gotta pay for that. I gotta
Speaker 2: pay for the house I got paid for.
Speaker 4: That's what hey, hey, listen, you gotta make you gotta
Speaker 4: sund you want you wanted that house to listen, I
Speaker 4: understand your pain. I've been there before, maybe not maybe
Speaker 4: not to that extent, but listen, we we've all had
Speaker 4: to sacrifice something for something else that we like, and
Speaker 4: we love you, we appreciate at that at that time,
Speaker 4: knowing it's out our budget. Hey knowing good well, because
Speaker 4: we know it can't.
Speaker 1: Ain't no coming. I ain't had no take nothing either.
Speaker 2: I didn't. I had a couch.
Speaker 1: Then I had a bad That's all I had for Hey.
Speaker 5: Hey, look, hey, hey, had you working hard as all cakes?
Speaker 2: I had a cake size bed. I had a cakese
Speaker 2: I bed. Uh what's that?
Speaker 1: H You remember the furniture store, huffs Joe, right there
Speaker 1: on Ladies Road by the church. It used to be
Speaker 1: a glass It was a big glass building right there. Uh,
Speaker 1: but the furniture, that's what it all. All the high
Speaker 1: end black entertainers a limb. They used to go get
Speaker 1: their furniture from there.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you probably.
Speaker 1: Do that, but you know I had to get don't
Speaker 1: even take it like, oh oh, Joe, Joe, I had
Speaker 1: a bed, but you don't. My bed was black lacquer,
Speaker 1: black lacker, and it light up like like an infinity
Speaker 1: like infinity.
Speaker 4: And Ellie and hold on.
Speaker 1: You had before it was cool, before it was before
Speaker 1: it was the stop right. Hey, let me tell you
Speaker 1: what I did. Let me tell you what I had,
Speaker 1: Oh Joe, I slurred a little bit. I went all
Speaker 1: it out. Who like I said, I would even catch
Speaker 1: up with a knit needle.
Speaker 4: Come on, take your time.
Speaker 1: And I had me a level comforter custom made for
Speaker 1: the bed.
Speaker 2: You cut up level think?
Speaker 1: I what whatever? Lether comforter custom for the bed?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Oh yeah.
Speaker 1: Then I did a car sign and you know I
Speaker 1: did a car if you know back then you saw
Speaker 1: a kind of signed cars. Uh, they gave you boy
Speaker 1: a little money. I signed like two thousand cars, got
Speaker 1: me about twelve five.
Speaker 2: Yeah, bought me some satin sheets, sat team. Hey, how
Speaker 2: about this here?
Speaker 1: Man? You know I see them in the movies how
Speaker 1: they run jump in the band? How I go jump
Speaker 1: in the best always cost the floor with the other.
Speaker 2: Side on the floor. I went. I said, oh man,
Speaker 2: this stuff looked good. This ain't functional.
Speaker 5: Hey, hey, hold up, but why are you talking? Oh Joe,
Speaker 5: y'all still do a card signings?
Speaker 2: I do, I do, I do every every blue moon.
Speaker 1: Joe because back then, you know, my brother would take
Speaker 1: me like they want my brother. He had just but
Speaker 1: in the beginning, they wanted my brother because he had,
Speaker 1: you know, won the Triple Crown. He was an All
Speaker 1: pro first, you know, a hundred catch season, back to
Speaker 1: back hundred catch seasons. So they wanted him and all
Speaker 1: the way he would go do the signing. They had
Speaker 1: to take me. So they thought, you bought twenty five
Speaker 1: hundred five thousand, right right, I mean one time I
Speaker 1: signed ten thousand cards.
Speaker 2: Damn in one sinding.
Speaker 1: They gave you, they gave you three months.
Speaker 2: Yeah, oh to get through it.
Speaker 4: Okay, okay, but I was I had a couch.
Speaker 1: I had a couch and had no TV. But I
Speaker 1: had a bed and the bed was nice. I'm just
Speaker 1: saying the bed wasnce. The bed was nice.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 5: Hey, I'm still doing card signings to this day.
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, yeah, I still I still sign a lot.
Speaker 1: By I look back, I look back, I think about
Speaker 1: sometime now, I'll just be laying that I was like, damn,
Speaker 1: if they could have went sideways of a hurry. Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: I ain't have no choice. You were shooting up. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I was shooting up. Had I got three I got
Speaker 1: to get on. I got three kids, they in daycare,
Speaker 1: and I got I still gotta take care of Granted,
Speaker 1: I still gotta take care of living mom everyone in
Speaker 1: a while, plus the kid. That's my number one responsibility.
Speaker 1: So if I gotta do without, I'm cool. People say, man,
Speaker 1: I could train myself. I'll go a couple of days
Speaker 1: without eating. He'll be killing so hungry.
Speaker 2: But I said, yeah, I got.
Speaker 1: I gotta put myself in a situation because if I
Speaker 1: ever have to not be able to eat, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: be good with you.
Speaker 5: Hey, Hey, it's a lot of people, ain't They ain't
Speaker 5: gonna be to understand what you're saying. Bro, No, it's
Speaker 5: just a lot of us. It's a lot of us
Speaker 5: who have been there and done that.
Speaker 4: Hey, Joe, the funny thing about it is is the people.
Speaker 4: The people aren't gonna understand because they've they've only seen
Speaker 4: the finished prought up. They've only seen the finish. They've
Speaker 4: only seen you on Sundays. They don't understand the walk
Speaker 4: you took, in the path you took to get to
Speaker 4: where you are. They don't understand the sacrifices that came
Speaker 4: along that God damn journey.
Speaker 6: Before you got to what you see on Sundays.
Speaker 4: They'll never get it. They'll never get it.
Speaker 1: When I called the phrase to me, I wore summer clothes,
Speaker 1: I told him. And when I went to college, I said, man,
Speaker 1: I wore summer clothes. Man looked at me and said,
Speaker 1: what you mean summer clothes. Some of my brothers, some
Speaker 1: of my uncles, some of my clubs, that your past
Speaker 1: that bang on down.
Speaker 2: I'm like, what us last year? I got the man?
Speaker 1: Listen and when you when it got too small for me,
Speaker 1: that's the jeans they cut up. And you know back then,
Speaker 1: you know you're on your you're on your knees. You
Speaker 1: put holes in your knees in jeans. My grandma was
Speaker 1: that ain't gotten too small for me? Man, all that stitching.
Speaker 1: Come on, granny. This when you was in college, I was.
Speaker 1: I was in the coming up in school. I was
Speaker 1: coming out there. But no, when I was in college,
Speaker 1: you know, look, I went to college. I had matching luggage.
Speaker 1: I had two piggy wiggy bags with everything I owned
Speaker 1: this side of them. I haven't match your luggage, Oh,
Speaker 1: Joe Pickley Wiggly, No, it might have been winnings at
Speaker 1: the time they changed. But I had two brown bags.
Speaker 1: You don't believe in As Pastor Cord, I went to
Speaker 1: college class of eighty six, That's that's what we call
Speaker 1: myself eighty six, and somehow I showed up two Winn
Speaker 1: Dixie brown brown grocery bags. I had everything I owned
Speaker 1: in those bags.
Speaker 5: Hey, I believe boy, I ain't had much in thathing
Speaker 5: when I went to college, Lea, I ain't gonna lie
Speaker 5: to tell you. I used to want to cramp out
Speaker 5: them Arkansas Raizor Bank Swiss Oo.
Speaker 2: I'm talking about all kinds of stuff on them.
Speaker 4: Swiss like it was designed.
Speaker 2: Uh huh man, what you talking about? And you remember.
Speaker 1: Like in the dorm you had like we had one
Speaker 1: wash it, we had two washers, two drives. Now think
Speaker 1: about it, you got long, you might got seventy guys,
Speaker 1: two washers, two drives. So guess what happened. Guess what happened.
Speaker 1: If your stuff, your stuff, you're not there.
Speaker 3: To see it, it's gonna be on top and somebody
Speaker 3: else stuff in there, and you just hope your best
Speaker 3: eyes on shirt and your best stuff you see somebody
Speaker 3: with me.
Speaker 5: Hey, Hey, and you already know though, when you're down
Speaker 5: there washing them clothes and college.
Speaker 2: You got to stay to stay down there with you.
Speaker 2: You can't put the starting them clothes and talking about
Speaker 2: you gonna go to your boat.
Speaker 1: Okay, okay, Hey, that was the best thing on Joe
Speaker 1: when I got a girlfriend.
Speaker 2: I got a girlfriend my junior year.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, Hey you think, Hey, everything wash it folded
Speaker 1: up because you know I'm just washing. I I'm dumping
Speaker 1: everything in there together, throwing in there.
Speaker 6: You ain't saying you ain't separating nothing.
Speaker 4: You washing.
Speaker 2: I'm washing everything. I ain't the only thing that average bleach.
Speaker 1: I just knew you couldn't put bleach in color, but
Speaker 1: everything else, Hey, tiede, that's that's the only that's the
Speaker 1: only that's the only thing we always use.
Speaker 2: We only use tide.
Speaker 1: We have no fabric soften that we have nothing static
Speaker 1: and that pie. I have my four pair of socks
Speaker 1: stuck to my gee. Shall y'all know, y'all know what
Speaker 1: I'm talking about. I ain't the only one. Hey, I
Speaker 1: remember them days throw back? Uh? Is it rare to
Speaker 1: see Pete Carroll because the one thing we know about
Speaker 1: pre Caroll, he can rebuild. Look at what he did
Speaker 1: at USC look at what he did at Seattle. Are
Speaker 1: you surprised that they didn't give him more time to
Speaker 1: try to get this thing turned around than one year?
Speaker 4: No, absolutely not. I'm not surprised at all, obviously because
Speaker 4: where they were ranked offensively and defensively. I'm not sure
Speaker 4: if the players were responding to Pete Carroll. Obviously, I
Speaker 4: think they want to go a little bit younger when
Speaker 4: it comes to the coaching staff that they that they
Speaker 4: want to bring in, they want to go in a
Speaker 4: completely different direction. Obviously, I love Peter, love what Peter's
Speaker 4: been able to do at the NFL level, at the
Speaker 4: collegiate level, but it's obvious that Tom and others that
Speaker 4: are making those calls in that building want to go
Speaker 4: much younger, to another coach where the players a little
Speaker 4: bit more receptive to what they.
Speaker 2: Have to say.
Speaker 1: But think about what he had in Seattle. They get Russ,
Speaker 1: they get Shared, they get b Wags, they get Cliff Abril,
Speaker 1: they get Earl Thomas, they got cam Look at what
Speaker 1: they Look at what they're doing now. They trade for beasts, Mold,
Speaker 1: they draft those receivers, Cursed and Baldwin. You see, look
Speaker 1: at what they got now you got Russ. Now you
Speaker 1: got a nucleus. What nucleus is in in excuse me
Speaker 1: in Vegas?
Speaker 4: It ain't mac Crosby brock Bowels, even though it's early.
Speaker 1: And with that, it wasn't until they got the quarterback
Speaker 1: with Russ, Yeah, that they were able and part with
Speaker 1: that legion of boom. They get Michael Benett, you know,
Speaker 1: they get Michael Benett, and they get you know, Malcolm Smith,
Speaker 1: and they get a couple of these other guys and yeah, wila.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's a that's AOK time now.
Speaker 1: Team, they give you no time now, o Joe oh, Joe,
Speaker 1: Zach Taylor apparently who.
Speaker 2: Will pass oh?
Speaker 1: Listening to Joe Burrow and Jamar Chase their desire to
Speaker 1: make change in the big and those Bengals organization, Taylor's
Speaker 1: good on Bens today, stating that he does not plan
Speaker 1: on making any changes to the coaches down. He compiled
Speaker 1: a fifty two, sixty three and one record over the
Speaker 1: last seventh season and led the Bengals to the Super
Speaker 1: Bowl in twenty twenty one. The Bengals defense was one
Speaker 1: of the worst in the NFL, ranking thirtieth in points allowed,
Speaker 1: thirty first in total yard surrender. Even with those dismal stats,
Speaker 1: Taylor plans to bring back defensive coordinator Al Golden for
Speaker 1: a second season.
Speaker 2: In the role o.
Speaker 1: Yo, are you surprised with how bad the note? I'm
Speaker 1: not made that he's not willing to make any changes.
Speaker 4: Absolutely not. Because listen, they said lou Anroma was a problem.
Speaker 4: The year before last, lou An Roma went to the
Speaker 4: goddamn Coats and they had a good defense. Because you
Speaker 4: know why they had a good defense in Indy, because
Speaker 4: they had the players. You'll be able to execute the
Speaker 4: scheme and the taxes that lou and Rouma wanted to run. Listen,
Speaker 4: Al Golden, the Disciples, Jesus of Nazareth, God, it wouldn't
Speaker 4: matter who was coaching that goddamn defense.
Speaker 2: Joe, Huh.
Speaker 4: They wasn't gonna be able to perform in this off season.
Speaker 4: This off season for the Bengals, the only focus for
Speaker 4: us needs to be in the draft and off season.
Speaker 6: Acquisitions needs to be defensive help.
Speaker 4: It needs to be defensive help. Honestly, I've said this,
Speaker 4: playing around, playing around, obviously saying stuff I would love.
Speaker 4: Jeffrey Simmons, I'm not sure that's possible with Tennessee biblot
Speaker 4: willing to let him go. No, will Mike Brown pay him?
Speaker 4: Absolutely absolutely, based on what we just saw last year
Speaker 4: and what we saw the previous year, Yes, they.
Speaker 2: Will do it. He will do it.
Speaker 4: Another thing, we need three pieces. We need some at
Speaker 4: all three levels. We need some on the front, on
Speaker 4: the front level, and on the back end. I love
Speaker 4: DJ Turner, I love DJ Turner. I love what he's
Speaker 4: turned out to be. He's gonna get paid this off
Speaker 4: season at the second level. Demetrir's Night. He needs to
Speaker 4: have that goddamn seal on his checks next year. Young
Speaker 4: Buller's Knights, Soth Carol game call. Hey, hey, Joe, when
Speaker 4: your turn on the tape, that young bull all over
Speaker 4: the place. Boy, he got a moto on him.
Speaker 6: Hey, he gonna be nice.
Speaker 4: He gonna be something. So we need three pieces, Joe,
Speaker 4: We need three get something on that third level. We
Speaker 4: get somebody like Jeffery Simmons to help stop that run.
Speaker 4: And hoping Shamar Stewart in his second year gets much
Speaker 4: better as opposed to what we saw this year from him,
Speaker 4: to go early in the draft and live up to
Speaker 4: that high round expectation.
Speaker 2: I think we're gonna be all right, y'all.
Speaker 5: All right, y'all gonna have to get that out the draft,
Speaker 5: ain't you, Oh, Joe, y'all got some y'all got too
Speaker 5: much money tied up in that offense.
Speaker 6: Hey, Joe, you ain't never lie. Listen with you me.
Speaker 4: I'm picking up what you're putting down, Joe, But we
Speaker 4: got to do.
Speaker 2: Something you got.
Speaker 1: Y'all gonna have to redo what you call them contract
Speaker 1: because uh T was basically a one year deal. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he was basically one year deal, O Joe. Yeah, but
Speaker 1: you need some off his aligne with two at some
Speaker 1: point in time. Y'all gotta stop getting Joe hit, Yeah,
Speaker 1: because that's not your offense. Y'all s fair things up
Speaker 1: on Sunday just to try to keep Miles from getting
Speaker 1: that y'all pushed the ball down the field.
Speaker 2: Y'all really didn't push the ball down the field, but
Speaker 2: one time, won't.
Speaker 1: Joe because y'all was trying to get the ball out
Speaker 1: of his hands because you didn't want to try to
Speaker 1: get to your quarterback.
Speaker 6: As matter of fact, it's so funny. What did I say?
Speaker 1: What?
Speaker 4: How did I say? The game was gonna look?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 4: You said it the night before the game, I said
Speaker 4: it was gonna be quick game misdirection and getting the
Speaker 4: ball out of his hands real fast, and I'd be damn,
Speaker 4: that's exactly what they did all god damn game long.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but that's not a but that's not that's not
Speaker 1: your offense though, No, your offense is, oh, chose to
Speaker 1: push the ball down the field? Yeah, you get Look,
Speaker 1: we want to push the ball down, push the putt
Speaker 1: the ball to chase his hand. But Chase catch a
Speaker 1: lot of deep balls. Team catch a lot of.
Speaker 2: Deep balls, deep ball. Yeah, they do.
Speaker 1: So to get outside of what you schematically normally would do.
Speaker 1: And that's why I hate. Look, if I want you,
Speaker 1: I can neutralize anybody if I'm willing to jump, if
Speaker 1: I'm willing to jump my offensive defense just to keep
Speaker 1: one player at bath. But at what expense? At what expense,
Speaker 1: Joe Burrow is a push the ball down the field?
Speaker 1: You got receivers that can get down the field. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you can get the ball in their hands and occasionally,
Speaker 1: yeah they'll do that. They'll get the ball in T's hand.
Speaker 1: They'll get the ball. More so chasing, because I think
Speaker 1: Chase is a little better run after the catch than
Speaker 1: t is. T is a much bigger receiver. Go over
Speaker 1: the top, he'll high point the ball. Tremendous hand, great
Speaker 1: hand eye coordination. But Sunday, you guys like nah, Man,
Speaker 1: we're gonna do everything we possibly care to try to
Speaker 1: neutralize Mile. So that means a lot of quick store,
Speaker 1: a lot of hitching, a lot of smoke stuff, a
Speaker 1: lot of shallows. Hey, get the ball up. The reason
Speaker 1: why I'm not surprised the one thing I know about
Speaker 1: the Brown family. They ain't spending no excess money. I've
Speaker 1: been damn if you're gonna get much keep they get
Speaker 1: their money and you're not working for them. That is
Speaker 1: how they do business. O Jo, you know them. I've
Speaker 1: been around the league and heard people talk. He ain't
Speaker 1: find no car. How many more years does Zach Taylor
Speaker 1: got on his contract?
Speaker 4: That is?
Speaker 1: That is, how how many more years he gonna be
Speaker 1: coaching in Cincinnati.
Speaker 4: He's gonna be right there, Yeah, absolutely right, absolutely right.
Speaker 1: Gause A man that one and done stuff that that
Speaker 1: that you see other coaches that other owners do.
Speaker 2: Mike Brown ain't doing that.
Speaker 4: Ain't having that. Hell no, he Now you think you
Speaker 4: think you think you can find somebody he still got
Speaker 4: to pay and they not actually in that not it
Speaker 4: ain't happening.
Speaker 1: So Zach Taylor stays, we'll come back to the n
Speaker 1: B A excuse me, We'll come back to football to bed.
Speaker 1: But NBA news first, O Yo, have the floor for
Speaker 1: some spoken words. It's yours O yo.
Speaker 4: Oh man ay chat uh he a, Joe, this is
Speaker 4: this is deep man okay taking time now?
Speaker 2: Oh man man got the manahu a chat.
Speaker 4: I know Auns Ravens didn't make the playoffs. There have
Speaker 4: been some some rude things that have been said to
Speaker 4: the kicker, Tyler Loop, And knowing that I do spoken word,
Speaker 4: I thought I'd come up with something for him to
Speaker 4: encourage him to go forward and to be better because
Speaker 4: that moment in which he missed that kick, that opportunity
Speaker 4: will present itself again. So let me know you're.
Speaker 2: Already You ready, Joe?
Speaker 1: All right?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm ready. Yeah.
Speaker 4: This is called the kick, kick.
Speaker 6: The kick.
Speaker 4: They call it one kick, But Tyler Loop felt a
Speaker 4: lifetime in that moment. The whistle was sharp, the stadium
Speaker 4: was loud. A season on your foot, forty four yards wide, right,
Speaker 4: and the world writes a story with no room for
Speaker 4: the hours you spent perfecting your craft. They'll remember the miss,
Speaker 4: not the miles walked, not the pressure on your back,
Speaker 4: not the heart it took to step there. But listen,
Speaker 4: you showed up, lined it up, you believed, and that's
Speaker 4: something no miss can take.
Speaker 2: That is the spoken word by mister o Jo Pachacho. Yeah, yeah, okay, thank.
Speaker 1: You, Okay, why are you laughing?
Speaker 2: Hey, I'm digging the hat though the head and eye.
Speaker 2: No messing with the hair.
Speaker 4: I appreciate that, Joe. I appreciate the head. Yeah, I
Speaker 4: appreciate that, Joe. It it took time. It took time
Speaker 4: for me to write that.
Speaker 2: Now it's gonna be really very thoughtful.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it took it. Yeah, I listen, I damn, this
Speaker 4: spent all day.
Speaker 2: Joe said.
Speaker 1: Oh Joe started poetic injustice.
Speaker 4: A little keep your hair black as that was you,
Speaker 4: my boy, lou.
Speaker 1: Say that, man, poet if you jumped he.
Speaker 4: Hey, listen, that was a serious moment. Man, y'all laughing
Speaker 4: at me?
Speaker 1: Man?
Speaker 2: Now, Hey, this is space. This is a safe space. Yeah.
Speaker 6: Every time, every time I be vulnerable, y'all, get y'all.
Speaker 2: We judge you. Not at least you be judged, right.
Speaker 4: Right, whatever that means?
Speaker 2: Hey, we ain't laughing. Ask you were laughing? Witch?
Speaker 1: You laugh?
Speaker 2: You got messed up? Man? Oh lord that birthday?
Speaker 4: Hey? Hold on, hey, y'all, yeah that's messed up.
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 4: Hey, I got a joke. I got a joke. Joe,
Speaker 4: You ready, joke?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm ready, I'm ready.
Speaker 4: Come on, Hey, Chack, what do you call fake spaghetti?
Speaker 2: Fakes spaghetti?
Speaker 1: Real?
Speaker 2: You got anything, Joe?
Speaker 5: I'll be feeling like I'll be knowing them, but they
Speaker 5: be outfield left someone, this dude, this dude, because fakes
Speaker 5: spaghet hold on with Joe fake spaghetti. Uh no, I
Speaker 5: ain't got nothing.
Speaker 2: What what you got? Joe?
Speaker 4: Fake spaghetti is called an impossible.
Speaker 2: Oh lord? He burstus bad here?
Speaker 1: Hm?
Speaker 2: May I just do it? Bro? Hey