WEBVTT - Nightcap Hour 1: Browns Give Kevin Stefanski the BOOT + Pete Carroll DOESN'T LAST in Las Vegas + Zac Taylor tells his STAFF they're SAFE + Ocho's SPOKEN WORD to Ravens Tyler Loop

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<v Speaker 2>Man? What's handening? What's handen?

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<v Speaker 4>teams not making the playoffs when the Raven didn't make it.

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<v Speaker 4>make it. So I'm trying to figure out why you're.

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<v Speaker 2>Joe.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know what you guys called end of your season,

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<v Speaker 1>but in the NFL, Monday it's called Black Monday because

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<v Speaker 1>that's when a lot of organizations turn over them fired

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<v Speaker 1>their coaches and go in a different direction. Sometimes they

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<v Speaker 1>fired general managers and coaches. Sometimes it's just a coach.

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<v Speaker 1>But in this situation, we're gonna start off with the

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<v Speaker 1>Cleveland Browns. They have fired Kevin Stefanski after six years.

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<v Speaker 1>He's a two time Coach of the Year, and he

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<v Speaker 1>won Cleveland's first playoff game in more than twenty five years.

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<v Speaker 1>Despite those accolades, Stefanski exit with a forty five and

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<v Speaker 1>fifty six record and went eight and twenty six in

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<v Speaker 1>his last two seasons. The majority of Stefanski's success came

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<v Speaker 1>with Baker Mayfield, but the Browns have since traded him away.

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<v Speaker 1>This is the list of passers in no particular order,

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<v Speaker 1>that has come along since Baker, Deshaun Watson, Jacoby Brissett,

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<v Speaker 1>Joe Flacco, Jamis Winston, Shador Sanders, Dylan Gabriel, Dorian Thompson, Robinson,

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<v Speaker 1>PJ Walker, Dreft, Jeff Drisco, and Bailey Zappi.

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<v Speaker 2>That's a lot of quarterbacks. Now.

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<v Speaker 1>It was reported today and I don't know Pete Prisco

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<v Speaker 1>who writes for cbssports dot com. He's reported that Stefanski

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<v Speaker 1>never wanted DeShawn Watson O Joe if. I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>if you saw it, but I was talking to John

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<v Speaker 1>and I asked him. One of the reasons why I

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<v Speaker 1>asked him, you know, one of his biggest regret is

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<v Speaker 1>that he didn't take Josh Allen. And I said, well,

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<v Speaker 1>why didn't you take him? He said, he said Sharpe,

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<v Speaker 1>I just couldn't get the coaches to buy in. He

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<v Speaker 1>was really, really raw and it was gonna take some

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<v Speaker 1>time for him to develop.

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<v Speaker 2>You know.

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<v Speaker 1>He didn't throw or or he turned the ball over

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<v Speaker 1>and he didn't throw with a high completion. But I

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<v Speaker 1>just couldn't get the coaches to buy in. And when

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<v Speaker 1>you're talking about, you know, taking somebody with the fifth

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<v Speaker 1>pick of the draft, and you're taking a big time

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<v Speaker 1>fridge like at the quarterback position, like a DeShawn Watson,

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<v Speaker 1>O Joe, you need everybody baught in.

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<v Speaker 2>Can't nobody?

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<v Speaker 1>There can't be any Luke Warn feeling well like yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I'll coach. No, we gotta be all bought in. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>that's what Pete PRIs gonna say. We don't know that

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<v Speaker 1>to be true. But what it did, because it hadn't

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<v Speaker 1>worked out so far, Ojo, it kind of doomed franchise

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<v Speaker 1>because think about what you gave up three first rounders,

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<v Speaker 1>you gave up a second round. I think you gave

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<v Speaker 1>a third round as find me all what they all

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<v Speaker 1>gave up. And when it doesn't work out on.

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<v Speaker 4>Joe, Yes, well, unc well, listen to you you ain't,

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<v Speaker 4>Joe and Unk. I mean, this didn't doom the franchise.

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<v Speaker 4>The franchise has been doomed before that situation even happened.

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<v Speaker 4>They've been through thirty seven thousand quarterbacks. They haven't been

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<v Speaker 4>able to find the one. Now, obviously, if Josh Allen,

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<v Speaker 4>if they've gotten Josh Allen, despite what they might have

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<v Speaker 4>seen on tape. Listen, when your draft regards to what round,

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<v Speaker 4>regards of what pick, it's still hit or miss. No

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<v Speaker 4>matter what. You can get somebody in the first round

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<v Speaker 4>that played great in college, and it might it might

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<v Speaker 4>not translate over into the NFL. It just happens like that.

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<v Speaker 4>Sometime this year's draft, we're talking about some of the

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<v Speaker 4>players that are coming into the draft. They're going to

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<v Speaker 4>very bad teams. And when they go to these bad teams,

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<v Speaker 4>some of these players that are going to go early

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<v Speaker 4>aren't transcending talents. They're not generational talents, but they have

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<v Speaker 4>a superior supporting cast on them in college, and therefore

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<v Speaker 4>they're gonna go high to a very bad team and

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<v Speaker 4>you're gonna wonder why they struggle. They struggle because of

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<v Speaker 4>them having I mean them not having the tools and

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<v Speaker 4>the supporting cast round when they get to these NFL teams,

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<v Speaker 4>and it's a different ball game if you're not a

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<v Speaker 4>transcending talent, which I really haven't seen. I'm talking about

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<v Speaker 4>the generational talent that would show up right now in college.

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<v Speaker 4>There is not that. That's there's not that coming into

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<v Speaker 4>the draft, right It's not. I'm just being honest, and

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<v Speaker 4>I'm not sure people in the chat, I'm not sure

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<v Speaker 4>what you're watching. Even though college players that have played well,

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<v Speaker 4>those college quarterbacks ain't no Lamar Jackson's ain't no Josh Allens,

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<v Speaker 4>ain't no Joe Burrows, ain't no Patrick Mahomes. Now that

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<v Speaker 4>there's a chance they could pan out to be that,

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<v Speaker 4>but teams don't have the patience for that will happen, or.

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<v Speaker 1>The coaching because if you go back and think about it, Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>Joe Josh Allens Rooki Yell with a turnover machine, it

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't until he got Brian day ball that he turned

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<v Speaker 1>into the jaw the Josh Allen.

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<v Speaker 2>That we see now.

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<v Speaker 1>And the guy that's that's taken over has even taken

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<v Speaker 1>him to a higher height and got him to an MVP.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's the thing they're gonna be some rough spots,

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<v Speaker 1>and the question is are we built to withstand those

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<v Speaker 1>rough spots until he gets this thing figured out?

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<v Speaker 4>And Joe, that's another thing, Joe and uncle. If you're

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<v Speaker 4>not built, what you aren't gonna be. The Raiders aren't built.

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<v Speaker 4>And whoever they pick, they're going to get a quarterback. Joe,

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<v Speaker 4>they're going to get a quarterback. Do you trust Mark

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<v Speaker 4>Davis and all the people that are in that building

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<v Speaker 4>that are in positions of power to build a team

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<v Speaker 4>around him to make sure he can be competent a

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<v Speaker 4>good quarterback for the future, Because if you don't, what's

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<v Speaker 4>gonna happen. That shit can be demoralizing, Joe. So you, Joe,

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<v Speaker 4>you go into the wrong situation like that and it

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<v Speaker 4>ain't got no helper, and you ain't got no help

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<v Speaker 4>around you.

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<v Speaker 2>I can imagine. I can imagine.

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<v Speaker 4>You come from you come from a winning program, when

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<v Speaker 4>you've won everything, and then you come to the NFL

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<v Speaker 4>and it's a different ball game, Joe. It's the best

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<v Speaker 4>of the best, and but it's levels to everything. It's

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<v Speaker 4>the best of the best, and you're going early. But

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<v Speaker 4>the team you're on is just not good. The players

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<v Speaker 4>you're playing with even though they're part of the one percent,

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<v Speaker 4>they're just not good.

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<v Speaker 2>What'd you think of Joe? Man, we talked what team

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<v Speaker 2>you'all talking about right.

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<v Speaker 1>Now here, you're talking about quarterback top five top quarterbacks

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<v Speaker 1>going to a bad situation because that's I know, I

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<v Speaker 1>know we're talking.

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<v Speaker 2>About the best players.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I know, to the worst teams and help bim,

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<v Speaker 1>all of a sudden, they're not the worst teams anymore.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I know, I know you had said something about,

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<v Speaker 5>you know, these coaches getting fired even when I look, yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>even when I look at the Cleveland situation. Man, you

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<v Speaker 5>got a pretty good quarterback, okay, Ocho, why not just

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<v Speaker 5>like beef up your offensive line, get get get some

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<v Speaker 5>more weapons whoever you're gonna have back that throwing the

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<v Speaker 5>ball at the end of the day. I mean, you

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<v Speaker 5>to protect the quarterback and you gotta get you gotta

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<v Speaker 5>give him some more weapons. From what I've been Yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>they're definitely their wide receiver. You got Queen Jukins. We'll

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<v Speaker 5>see how soon he can come back. That's will he

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<v Speaker 5>come well, I mean, is he gonna miss time?

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<v Speaker 3>On Joe?

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<v Speaker 1>You know he had a serious injury. Will he miss time?

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<v Speaker 1>Will he be back for OTA's will he be ready,

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<v Speaker 1>ready for training camp?

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<v Speaker 2>How soon?

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<v Speaker 1>And will he be back? I think the thing is

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<v Speaker 1>Oho is that. But see, when you get a twenty

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<v Speaker 1>six year old that's proven, it's supposed to be can't missed.

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<v Speaker 1>We're not talking about a guy out of college, Ohoe.

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<v Speaker 1>We're talking about a guy that at the time that

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<v Speaker 1>they signed him, he was a top five quarterback. Everybody

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<v Speaker 1>had Deshaun Watson in their top five. So that's not

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<v Speaker 1>a situation where we're getting a guy that's never played,

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<v Speaker 1>never thrown an NFL football, never doesn't know what it's

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<v Speaker 1>like to go to NFL meetings and lead a huddle

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<v Speaker 1>in command and beat a voice of men among men's.

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<v Speaker 1>That's Deshaun Watson, twenty six years of age. He had

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<v Speaker 1>just led the league in passing, had been a profole player,

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<v Speaker 1>so he was supposed to be can't missed. You get

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<v Speaker 1>Tom Brady, you get Tom Brady going to Tampa, he

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<v Speaker 1>can't miss You get Peyton Manny. Granted, now Peyton Manny

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<v Speaker 1>was he had the elbow, the nerve, and the nerve

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<v Speaker 1>in snack O Joe. But based on that, if everything

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<v Speaker 1>checked out, if he could throw the ball forty yards

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<v Speaker 1>Peyton Manny was supposed to be can't miss. That was

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<v Speaker 1>Deshaun Watson, twenty six years of age, fully healthy, just

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<v Speaker 1>let the league in passing, and he against the Cleveland

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<v Speaker 1>and for whatever reason, I'm like, I don't know this guy.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know this guy. This is not the guy

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<v Speaker 1>that came from Houston. O Joe, I don't know it.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, and.

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<v Speaker 1>You're right, Cleveland, you need wide receivers. You got a

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<v Speaker 1>great tight end, but it doesn't hurt to have another one. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>Knox and Kincaid. Did you see how they got that

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<v Speaker 1>in Buffalo?

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<v Speaker 4>On Joe, hold on? What about what about the Bear?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah? Loveland, Yeah, you got Warren, you got more Ali

0:13:02.760 --> 0:13:06.920
<v Speaker 1>Cox and the Coats, you got too tight ends. You

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<v Speaker 1>got Strange and the other guy at Jacksonville. So they

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<v Speaker 1>need weapons. They need to be beef up. That offensive line.

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<v Speaker 1>The offensive line is just not good enough right now. Man,

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<v Speaker 1>They're not good enough right now. But you need weapons.

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<v Speaker 1>But you can't keep you can't keep shuttling quarterbacks in

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<v Speaker 1>and out. Yeah, you mentioned Mark Davis. I ain't got

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<v Speaker 1>no problem with Mark Davis because Mark Davis will now

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<v Speaker 1>he's not like his dad. He's not meddlesome like his dad.

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<v Speaker 1>He trust the people that he hired. The people that

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<v Speaker 1>he hired just fed it up because he didn't want

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<v Speaker 1>to find John Gruden. The NFL pay. Yeah, and he's

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<v Speaker 1>one of those. He's one of those owners. He's not

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<v Speaker 1>like his dad. They'd have never made his dad fire anybody.

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<v Speaker 1>He's like, fire him. He wouldn't hire some more of

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<v Speaker 1>his family just.

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<v Speaker 2>That by show you didn't catch you see? I called

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<v Speaker 2>it the real He's like that.

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<v Speaker 1>That's not how his son is. His son is like, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>I'll toe the company line. I'll do everything. Jerry has

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<v Speaker 1>replaced his dad as the outlaw man. I'm gonna do it.

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<v Speaker 1>What the hell I say. I pay for this team.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not gonna let you tell me what to do.

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<v Speaker 1>A boss me around. But o, Joe, here's what Jimmy

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<v Speaker 1>Haslam had to say about the state of the Browns.

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<v Speaker 2>And I want you to hear this.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay. First of all, ownership takes full responsibility for where

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<v Speaker 1>we are.

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<v Speaker 2>To win eight games in two years is horrible.

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<v Speaker 1>It's totally unacceptable, okay, and it's not gonna continue, okay.

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<v Speaker 1>And I want the fans to know we are as

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<v Speaker 1>frustrated as you are.

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<v Speaker 4>Hey, is one thing, hey, listen, ownership, ownership, Hey, unk,

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<v Speaker 4>This is the funny thing about it. Ownership takes full responsibility.

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<v Speaker 4>The hey owners can't get fired. Hey, Joe, I know, Hey,

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<v Speaker 4>the people, Hey, the people that own, they can't get fired.

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<v Speaker 1>Four hundred probably four hundred and four twenty five coming,

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<v Speaker 1>oh Joe in March.

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<v Speaker 4>What that means?

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<v Speaker 2>The TV contract every NFL's teams cut?

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<v Speaker 4>Oh yeah, hey, so wait, oh four hundred and twenty

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<v Speaker 4>five minutes? Yes, team, how much we getting out of that?

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<v Speaker 2>We'll own no team? And oh show Now that's the

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<v Speaker 2>TV cut. Now.

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<v Speaker 1>We ain't say nothing about you selling tickets. We ain't

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<v Speaker 1>say nothing about the local advertising it. We ain't say

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<v Speaker 1>nothing about local TV, local sponsorship, We say nothing about parking,

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<v Speaker 1>and we ain't say nothing by concession.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, oh yeah, it added up. You ain't got to

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<v Speaker 4>tell me twice. I understand the business side of things.

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<v Speaker 4>I just don't like to talk about.

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<v Speaker 2>It, okay.

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<v Speaker 1>Brown's general manager Andrew Barry said today that he was

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<v Speaker 1>noncommittal on the team starting quarterback for twenty twenty six,

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<v Speaker 1>and then the new head coach will have his say

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<v Speaker 1>in the decision.

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<v Speaker 2>Barry said, we're.

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<v Speaker 1>Going to do our work on the quarterback market is

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<v Speaker 1>too important of a position and it's something that has

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<v Speaker 1>to be solidified. I can't sit here and tell you

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<v Speaker 1>today whether the starter in twenty twenty six is internal

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<v Speaker 1>or external. But it's something that we're going to work

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<v Speaker 1>through over the next several weeks. And quite honestly, the

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<v Speaker 1>new head coach will also have a lot of input

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<v Speaker 1>into that whip. Oh Joe, you see what he's saying. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>he said it's too important a position. He said, I

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<v Speaker 1>can't sit here today and tell you an internal left

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<v Speaker 1>quarter Oh. Edrew Berry said today that he was noncommental

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<v Speaker 1>on the starring quarterback for the twenty twenty six Seeds,

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<v Speaker 1>and the new head coach will have a say he

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<v Speaker 1>should have be safe. You see what he did. He

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<v Speaker 1>gonna put again, gonna put somebody on the head coach

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<v Speaker 1>that maybe the head coach doesn't want.

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<v Speaker 4>And then I'm it's like your grandma used to.

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<v Speaker 2>Put that plate down for you. I won't that. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>do what out.

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<v Speaker 4>But but obviously obviously Andrew Berry, they've made mistakes when

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<v Speaker 4>it comes.

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<v Speaker 1>Still got a job picking and I don't advocate anybody.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't advocate anybody getting fired on YO. I'm just

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<v Speaker 1>saying you found, okay Stefanski. And I'm not saying Stefanski

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<v Speaker 1>didn't deserve to go. But I'm saying, who hires Stefanski,

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<v Speaker 1>who brought all those players in? He did, so he

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<v Speaker 1>bring all those players in, he stays and gets to

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<v Speaker 1>hire another coach.

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<v Speaker 2>M hmm okay.

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<v Speaker 4>And and that's why they feel comfortable taking responsibility for

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<v Speaker 4>all the losing because they're there's there's there's nothing that's

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<v Speaker 4>going to happen to those who own. They just they're

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<v Speaker 4>gonna they're gonna keep recycling coach after coach, quarterback at

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<v Speaker 4>the quarterback at some point until until they get it.

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<v Speaker 2>Joe. So let me get this right.

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<v Speaker 1>Jimmy has them stood before the press today and said

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<v Speaker 1>eight wins over the last two season is unacceptable? Is

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<v Speaker 1>it unacceptable for the guy that hired that coach? M?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean last I checked, I mean, you ain't get

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<v Speaker 1>him off a hired app Well, I mean maybe maybe

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<v Speaker 1>it was zip recruiter. You know they you know, you

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<v Speaker 1>get these people gotta get all the emails and all

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<v Speaker 1>these different you know, average hiring agencies.

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<v Speaker 2>I heard you looking for work.

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<v Speaker 4>Where you hear that from? I mean, you know you

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<v Speaker 4>know what they all all these coaches that's getting fired.

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<v Speaker 4>When coaches get fired in general, I mean it all

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<v Speaker 4>comes down to one common denominator. Well, they don't have

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<v Speaker 4>the goddamn players you need to have success. Because Sean

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<v Speaker 4>mcvain going nowhere. Bill Belichick lasted twenty years. Look at

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<v Speaker 4>all the coaches that have that have had long sustaining careers.

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<v Speaker 4>They've always been able to compete.

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<v Speaker 1>In kranky Sean McVay says, Look, I understand you took

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<v Speaker 1>this guy number one, but I can't win with him.

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<v Speaker 1>I've gone as far as I can go with him.

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<v Speaker 1>We need to do something. Now, you tell me what

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<v Speaker 1>other code you're gonna have an input that says, you

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<v Speaker 1>know what, We're gonna trade our number one pick, give

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<v Speaker 1>up first rounders. We will need Matt Stafford. How many

0:19:10.960 --> 0:19:11.720
<v Speaker 1>owners gonna do that?

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<v Speaker 2>O Joe?

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<v Speaker 4>Well, not not exactly, but obviously wait hold on, this

0:19:16.920 --> 0:19:18.920
<v Speaker 4>is the thing, HUK. When you have someone like Mats

0:19:18.920 --> 0:19:21.920
<v Speaker 4>Stafford available, you're willing to pull a trigger because you

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<v Speaker 4>know what you're getting. You take Mats Stafford out of

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<v Speaker 4>goddamn Detroit, right, and you put them on a team

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<v Speaker 4>that is already ready. I'm not comparing it to Tom

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<v Speaker 4>brady situation and him leaving the Patriots of going to

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<v Speaker 4>goddamn Tampa Bay, but goddamn is damn show close. Yes,

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<v Speaker 4>it's damn so close because once he got the goddamn

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<v Speaker 4>LA What the fuck happened?

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<v Speaker 1>Ojo' difference between Tampa Bay and and and Stafford. Tampa

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<v Speaker 1>Bay got him for free. It's like you a, It's

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<v Speaker 1>like you dropped man. Remember John Elways said Peyton Manny

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<v Speaker 1>called him. I told the other teams, I'm not coming there,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm coming to you, Okay. I guess we got Peyton.

0:20:02.880 --> 0:20:05.800
<v Speaker 1>Tom Brady said, hey, I'm coming a todd light, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>coming to Tampa.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, hey, super a super Bowl ready.

0:20:10.119 --> 0:20:12.320
<v Speaker 1>They was already built. They was already traded a number

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<v Speaker 1>one and give up to first rounders. A lot of

0:20:15.880 --> 0:20:18.679
<v Speaker 1>people are like, what if it? You start thinking, what

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<v Speaker 1>if this doesn't work? We got to give up our

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<v Speaker 1>first round of next year, and we got to give

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<v Speaker 1>up other car I don't know about that, and we

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<v Speaker 1>gotta pay it.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, but uncle Joe, the pieces was already in place.

0:20:33.520 --> 0:20:35.359
<v Speaker 4>The piece was already in place. Once he got to

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<v Speaker 4>La where God damn Tom with the Tampa all they needed.

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<v Speaker 6>They was missing that sentiment.

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<v Speaker 1>But guess what they did and they allowed him to

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<v Speaker 1>have some say he went and he walked, Hey, come

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<v Speaker 1>on and Brown.

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<v Speaker 4>Here, ab come on.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, and that was ice, that was icing on the cake.

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<v Speaker 1>So I fake the finger. Andrew Berry picked those players.

0:20:59.520 --> 0:21:03.280
<v Speaker 1>Now he done a great I mean Miles Garrett hit

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<v Speaker 1>it out. The part got him.

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<v Speaker 2>I love you love it.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know did he pick Baker Mayfield? Was he

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<v Speaker 1>there for Baker Mayfield? Or was that the other guy?

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<v Speaker 1>Did he who picked Baker Mayfield?

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<v Speaker 6>Who's responsible for the Denzel Ward too?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>Denzel was probably because he came after. He came after.

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<v Speaker 1>Huh it wasn't they get Denzel Ward?

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<v Speaker 4>It was?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, Oh he's the other guy, that baseball guy.

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<v Speaker 1>Huh.

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<v Speaker 5>Man o, Joe, the Browns can make it. They can

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<v Speaker 5>make a big leap next year, man, silent defense. You

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<v Speaker 5>get the weapons.

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<v Speaker 6>They need by three pieces, Joe.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, if you believe they got a quarter Okay, if

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<v Speaker 1>you believe their quarterback is on the they need offensive line.

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<v Speaker 1>That left tackle did you see that left tackle? Cam Robinson?

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<v Speaker 1>I can't walk better than him. John Dorsey selected Baker. Uh,

0:22:13.920 --> 0:22:17.439
<v Speaker 1>that's that's embarrassing. I mean to watch some of these guys.

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<v Speaker 1>That's embarrassing that these guys are starting. I watched for

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<v Speaker 1>uh uh for Leyley. Oh Joe, that's yeah, Oh Joe.

0:22:24.080 --> 0:22:26.840
<v Speaker 1>He did he did his hand like this here, and

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<v Speaker 1>both guys ran by. I said, you must be thank

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<v Speaker 1>you school patrol. And you're gonna start some five year olds.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh Joe, how you hold out both heads if both

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<v Speaker 1>guys go by you? Hey, hey, they got that boy

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<v Speaker 1>back that running through in life?

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<v Speaker 2>Man.

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<v Speaker 1>Lamar like, oh, y'all protected on this here? They ain't

0:22:49.520 --> 0:22:53.960
<v Speaker 1>bring it before we got five protectors. I'm good. Labar said, damn.

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<v Speaker 2>Were you? And how did you get back here this fast?

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<v Speaker 4>That happened? That happened a few times.

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<v Speaker 1>You look at what they did this year that had

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<v Speaker 1>a Mason Graham. He started to come on. Uh uh

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<v Speaker 1>Swettinger is that his name? He looked like he's gonna

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<v Speaker 1>be defensive Rookie of the year. Junkins solid, really good

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<v Speaker 1>half Fanning, Yes, he got pro bo potential.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh. Dylan Gabriel, I don't know, I don't know. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>Samson I like Judkins better than I like Samson and

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<v Speaker 1>then your door. All I know is that he win.

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<v Speaker 1>He he You can say what you well, the defense

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<v Speaker 1>scored two touchdowns. Those two touchdowns. If he doesn't get

0:23:39.480 --> 0:23:41.160
<v Speaker 1>them down there in field gold range, do they win

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<v Speaker 1>the game?

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<v Speaker 2>Mm hmm.

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<v Speaker 1>Having a critical drive right there too. But see all

0:23:47.240 --> 0:23:49.720
<v Speaker 1>of you do it does something getting them in feel

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<v Speaker 1>gold range. He ain't do nothing. Anybody else didn't. He

0:23:52.760 --> 0:23:53.920
<v Speaker 1>set them to ruining field goal.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I mean, you know how that go the gold

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<v Speaker 4>post move depending on who you're talking about and who

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<v Speaker 4>it is.

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<v Speaker 1>But that's that's okay, that's okay, that's Okayshaun has to

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<v Speaker 1>come back, Joe. He's on the book for about fifty

0:24:07.040 --> 0:24:09.920
<v Speaker 1>million guaranteed, so he has to come back for another year,

0:24:10.160 --> 0:24:14.360
<v Speaker 1>ain't nobody. I mean, you could cut him, but nobody,

0:24:14.359 --> 0:24:16.320
<v Speaker 1>you're not gonna You're not gonna be able to trade it.

0:24:17.680 --> 0:24:19.960
<v Speaker 1>So you're gonnaet him infention. You stuck with him for

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<v Speaker 1>it least at least one more year. It go. This

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<v Speaker 1>is the worst trade in NFL history.

0:24:24.480 --> 0:24:24.800
<v Speaker 2>It is.

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<v Speaker 1>It is what it is. It is the worst trade

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<v Speaker 1>because of the compensation that you gave up and the

0:24:31.720 --> 0:24:33.919
<v Speaker 1>money that you paid him. He was the first to

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<v Speaker 1>have a fully gain Oh yo. And the problem is, Joe,

0:24:36.400 --> 0:24:39.640
<v Speaker 1>what made Cleveland it looks worse than what it was.

0:24:40.359 --> 0:24:44.439
<v Speaker 1>He had not even started on the new contract, the

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<v Speaker 1>extension that he signed.

0:24:46.480 --> 0:24:48.320
<v Speaker 2>They gave him money on top of that.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh Joe, he was about to start, and they say, no,

0:24:51.680 --> 0:24:56.000
<v Speaker 1>guess what, we're gonna even give you more and to

0:24:56.040 --> 0:24:57.919
<v Speaker 1>make it worse, We're gonna put it to make it

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<v Speaker 1>better for you, worse for them. They fully guaranteed it,

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<v Speaker 1>two hundred and thirty million, fully guaranteed.

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<v Speaker 2>They expect this.

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<v Speaker 4>Absolutely, not absolutely, that's what That's why they did it.

0:25:11.440 --> 0:25:12.840
<v Speaker 2>That was a fool in Houston.

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<v Speaker 4>Hey, Joe, he was a fool in Houston, and he

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<v Speaker 4>had he didn't have no superstars joke he had he

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<v Speaker 4>had Yeah, yeah, I think he had d Hop for

0:25:23.680 --> 0:25:26.360
<v Speaker 4>one year before the hop with the Arizona I'm not mistaken.

0:25:27.200 --> 0:25:29.200
<v Speaker 4>One year and the year when d Hop wasn't there,

0:25:29.320 --> 0:25:30.520
<v Speaker 4>he still went crazy.

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<v Speaker 2>Joe. Yeah, yeah, still went crazy.

0:25:32.840 --> 0:25:35.240
<v Speaker 4>So they understood what they were getting. And because you

0:25:35.359 --> 0:25:38.600
<v Speaker 4>understand that a premium passer like that at that age,

0:25:38.640 --> 0:25:41.640
<v Speaker 4>that was able to do that without prefeer talent around him.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh man, we got to have this because we haven't

0:25:44.800 --> 0:25:47.920
<v Speaker 4>had we haven't had anything like that. It's so long

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<v Speaker 4>since Auto Graham.

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<v Speaker 5>But Uncle Ojo, he ain't played him. It's been a minute.

0:25:53.119 --> 0:25:56.320
<v Speaker 5>Well he got hurt. Well, remember Joe, he got suspended.

0:25:56.320 --> 0:25:59.320
<v Speaker 5>He missed the first eleven games. Think about it now,

0:25:59.520 --> 0:26:01.280
<v Speaker 5>the previous year he didn't play.

0:26:01.920 --> 0:26:02.440
<v Speaker 2>It's hard.

0:26:02.480 --> 0:26:05.040
<v Speaker 1>I don't care how talent you are when you he

0:26:05.080 --> 0:26:08.239
<v Speaker 1>missed the whole year. And then basically he missed two

0:26:08.320 --> 0:26:10.640
<v Speaker 1>years because he missed the first eleven games. O't Joe.

0:26:11.240 --> 0:26:14.880
<v Speaker 1>Then he comes back, plays five games. He doesn't look good,

0:26:15.000 --> 0:26:17.160
<v Speaker 1>But you say, you know what, you get him in Ota,

0:26:17.480 --> 0:26:19.479
<v Speaker 1>We get him in an offseason condition. We get him

0:26:19.480 --> 0:26:22.840
<v Speaker 1>in our system. We'll be better. He gets hurt, He

0:26:22.920 --> 0:26:26.200
<v Speaker 1>missed the rest all that season. He comes back, guess what,

0:26:26.640 --> 0:26:30.119
<v Speaker 1>he gets hurt. Missed all that. So for the most part,

0:26:30.160 --> 0:26:34.520
<v Speaker 1>he might have played fifteen, sixteen, seventeen games in about

0:26:34.560 --> 0:26:36.119
<v Speaker 1>four years.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, he hadn't had the opportunity to get back to

0:26:41.320 --> 0:26:43.080
<v Speaker 4>himself if he wanted to.

0:26:43.760 --> 0:26:46.520
<v Speaker 6>So I mean, maybe maybe this is his year, Joe,

0:26:46.640 --> 0:26:48.280
<v Speaker 6>And maybe this is his year.

0:26:48.760 --> 0:26:50.760
<v Speaker 4>He had he has he's at ample time to get

0:26:50.800 --> 0:26:54.520
<v Speaker 4>himself back healthy, to get back to some form of

0:26:54.560 --> 0:26:57.840
<v Speaker 4>what he used to be. And maybe if if they

0:26:57.880 --> 0:27:04.120
<v Speaker 4>do their due diligence and bring talent, talent, two pieces.

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<v Speaker 4>If he's gonna be your starting quarterback because you got

0:27:06.600 --> 0:27:08.879
<v Speaker 4>fifty million on the books on him and you have

0:27:09.040 --> 0:27:11.240
<v Speaker 4>no choice but to ride with him, you know what

0:27:11.280 --> 0:27:11.720
<v Speaker 4>to do.

0:27:11.800 --> 0:27:15.160
<v Speaker 2>When you stuck well to do You can cut him.

0:27:16.560 --> 0:27:18.960
<v Speaker 1>I mean, you can release him, but you're still on

0:27:19.200 --> 0:27:20.800
<v Speaker 1>fifty million guaranteed, O Joe.

0:27:21.760 --> 0:27:23.000
<v Speaker 6>So you know they're not gonna do that.

0:27:23.240 --> 0:27:24.400
<v Speaker 4>You know they're not gonna do that.

0:27:25.800 --> 0:27:26.240
<v Speaker 2>I don't know.

0:27:29.119 --> 0:27:31.440
<v Speaker 4>I don't know, Joe. Honestly, I don't know either.

0:27:32.359 --> 0:27:37.000
<v Speaker 1>I don't It's it's a very tough situation. We keep

0:27:37.040 --> 0:27:39.159
<v Speaker 1>saying pieces. I don't give a damn what kind of

0:27:39.160 --> 0:27:41.600
<v Speaker 1>pieces you get. This ain't no just ain't no puzzle.

0:27:43.359 --> 0:27:45.600
<v Speaker 1>It ain't really that hard. If you don't get that

0:27:45.720 --> 0:27:49.320
<v Speaker 1>foundational piece, which is the quarterback, you cannot build a

0:27:49.440 --> 0:27:52.840
<v Speaker 1>team that's quality enough to get to where you want

0:27:52.840 --> 0:27:55.480
<v Speaker 1>to go. It used to be you could, Ojoe. I

0:27:55.600 --> 0:27:59.920
<v Speaker 1>bring my running game. I bring my defense, because defense travels,

0:28:00.119 --> 0:28:05.200
<v Speaker 1>a run game travels. They change the rules your quarterback

0:28:05.320 --> 0:28:08.639
<v Speaker 1>needs to travel and he needs to be able to

0:28:08.680 --> 0:28:12.960
<v Speaker 1>make plays under the rest. That's the way it's set up. Now,

0:28:13.160 --> 0:28:15.080
<v Speaker 1>go back and look at the quarterbacks that's been winning

0:28:15.119 --> 0:28:18.960
<v Speaker 1>the Super Bowls. Yeah, they got great piece around them,

0:28:19.040 --> 0:28:23.920
<v Speaker 1>but that guy's had to make plays, and right now

0:28:24.000 --> 0:28:26.159
<v Speaker 1>Cleveland doesn't have that and they haven't had it in

0:28:26.160 --> 0:28:31.960
<v Speaker 1>a long time. Seems to look it seems to me,

0:28:32.480 --> 0:28:34.560
<v Speaker 1>at least at worst case, you could say, you know you,

0:28:34.600 --> 0:28:36.720
<v Speaker 1>maybe you could have said that, hey, look, we like

0:28:36.760 --> 0:28:42.920
<v Speaker 1>what we saw from Sanders. But they're noncommental. They say,

0:28:42.920 --> 0:28:45.640
<v Speaker 1>we don't know if it's internal external, which means, hey,

0:28:45.840 --> 0:28:47.800
<v Speaker 1>we don't know if the guy that's gonna lead us

0:28:47.960 --> 0:28:49.640
<v Speaker 1>is on the roster or we're gonna have.

0:28:49.560 --> 0:28:53.960
<v Speaker 2>To bring him in rights. They keeping everybody on their

0:28:54.000 --> 0:28:54.680
<v Speaker 2>toes over there.

0:28:55.440 --> 0:28:57.440
<v Speaker 6>They definitely a't gonna get no answer right now.

0:28:57.840 --> 0:28:58.600
<v Speaker 4>God damn it.

0:28:58.800 --> 0:29:00.480
<v Speaker 2>Hey, hey, I'm I'm like you.

0:29:01.320 --> 0:29:03.760
<v Speaker 5>If they don't do nothing about that line, offensive line,

0:29:04.360 --> 0:29:05.280
<v Speaker 5>damn who they get back that.

0:29:07.040 --> 0:29:08.120
<v Speaker 2>They ain't gonna make a difference.

0:29:08.120 --> 0:29:10.440
<v Speaker 1>Well, they better get no allows back there to play

0:29:10.520 --> 0:29:12.720
<v Speaker 1>quarterback so he can take our running because they can't

0:29:12.720 --> 0:29:16.400
<v Speaker 1>catch it. But other than that, it ain't gonna work.

0:29:16.440 --> 0:29:19.040
<v Speaker 1>They need offensive line. They need offensive line. They need

0:29:19.080 --> 0:29:19.840
<v Speaker 1>some receivers.

0:29:20.280 --> 0:29:21.400
<v Speaker 2>Uh.

0:29:21.600 --> 0:29:23.600
<v Speaker 1>I like Isaiah Bob, but they need they need a

0:29:23.680 --> 0:29:26.719
<v Speaker 1>number one. They gotta go get a receiver. I like Fanning.

0:29:27.640 --> 0:29:29.600
<v Speaker 1>I'm not saying you gotta try to find another fan

0:29:29.760 --> 0:29:31.880
<v Speaker 1>but if you can have two solid tight ends, that

0:29:32.000 --> 0:29:37.680
<v Speaker 1>can do some damage. But I think offensively you're good. Hey,

0:29:37.720 --> 0:29:39.640
<v Speaker 1>I'll try to find another piece to go opposite of.

0:29:40.840 --> 0:29:42.880
<v Speaker 1>Maybe you go out and get another corner, the pair

0:29:42.920 --> 0:29:47.520
<v Speaker 1>of opposite of a Denzel. I like Delpit obviously, Miles

0:29:47.520 --> 0:29:51.760
<v Speaker 1>Garrett is your lynch pin, your centerpiece, and he's gonna

0:29:51.800 --> 0:29:56.080
<v Speaker 1>make everybody. Devin Bush played really well for him this year. Yeah,

0:29:56.880 --> 0:30:04.360
<v Speaker 1>but it's Cleveland's just Uh. The Raiders have fired their

0:30:04.400 --> 0:30:07.280
<v Speaker 1>head coach Pete Carroll after just one season. Carol said

0:30:07.280 --> 0:30:08.960
<v Speaker 1>the Raiders would win a bunch of games in his

0:30:09.040 --> 0:30:12.920
<v Speaker 1>first season. Instead, the Raiders finished three and fourteen, had

0:30:12.920 --> 0:30:15.160
<v Speaker 1>a check but they got that number one pick. The

0:30:15.240 --> 0:30:18.240
<v Speaker 1>Raiders were at the bottom of almost every category offensively

0:30:18.320 --> 0:30:22.160
<v Speaker 1>and defense. The unit finished thirty first and pressures rap

0:30:22.480 --> 0:30:26.040
<v Speaker 1>twenty seventh in sacked. Despite Max Crosby having ten this season,

0:30:26.440 --> 0:30:30.440
<v Speaker 1>the Raiders are also looking to hire a financial advisor.

0:30:30.680 --> 0:30:32.080
<v Speaker 2>That's what he should o. Joe.

0:30:32.200 --> 0:30:35.480
<v Speaker 1>Think about all the coaches and they, oh, Antonio Piers

0:30:35.560 --> 0:30:39.800
<v Speaker 1>eight million, Josh McDaniel ten million, John Gruden ten million,

0:30:40.000 --> 0:30:44.080
<v Speaker 1>Pete Carroll sixteen million, Chip Kelly six million, and you

0:30:44.120 --> 0:30:47.400
<v Speaker 1>got to break another head coach in and his staff

0:30:47.800 --> 0:30:49.240
<v Speaker 1>to pay them.

0:30:49.400 --> 0:30:51.239
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, but listen, if they need to hire if they

0:30:51.280 --> 0:30:53.280
<v Speaker 4>need to hire a Joe, if they need to hire

0:30:53.280 --> 0:30:55.680
<v Speaker 4>a financial advisor, yeah, right where they need to come.

0:30:56.360 --> 0:31:00.680
<v Speaker 4>I'm right, I'm exactly who they need to call. Did Hey, listen,

0:31:00.680 --> 0:31:02.200
<v Speaker 4>if there's anything I can get them out of that,

0:31:02.400 --> 0:31:03.760
<v Speaker 4>don't worry about that. I can get them out of that.

0:31:03.920 --> 0:31:08.320
<v Speaker 4>If it's anybody that knows and that's financially conscious and

0:31:08.560 --> 0:31:11.560
<v Speaker 4>very savvy when it comes to spending and making sure

0:31:12.280 --> 0:31:12.600
<v Speaker 4>it's me.

0:31:12.880 --> 0:31:14.640
<v Speaker 2>It's too late. Oo, it's me.

0:31:15.480 --> 0:31:17.480
<v Speaker 4>Well listen, it might be too late, but I will

0:31:17.520 --> 0:31:19.960
<v Speaker 4>make sure they won't make any more goddamn mistakes and

0:31:20.160 --> 0:31:24.560
<v Speaker 4>overspending from this point on. Now, bring bring me in

0:31:24.560 --> 0:31:24.960
<v Speaker 4>the building.

0:31:25.040 --> 0:31:27.360
<v Speaker 1>What here's the thing. When you fire a coach, you

0:31:27.400 --> 0:31:28.920
<v Speaker 1>ain't got no choice. You on the hook for the

0:31:28.920 --> 0:31:30.040
<v Speaker 1>book for his money.

0:31:31.120 --> 0:31:32.640
<v Speaker 4>Well, listen, we gonna we're gonna be We're gonna be

0:31:32.680 --> 0:31:35.040
<v Speaker 4>a lot more cautious on who we hire and making

0:31:35.080 --> 0:31:36.800
<v Speaker 4>sure we allow that contract.

0:31:37.080 --> 0:31:38.760
<v Speaker 1>You could have hired Bill Parker, you could have hired

0:31:38.840 --> 0:31:42.000
<v Speaker 1>Bill Belichick your quarter that quarterback situation. You can be

0:31:42.080 --> 0:31:45.680
<v Speaker 1>right here, yeah, right, hey.

0:31:45.720 --> 0:31:47.800
<v Speaker 5>So if you're the Raiders, though, do you get one

0:31:47.800 --> 0:31:51.920
<v Speaker 5>of these kids coming out the draft.

0:31:51.000 --> 0:31:52.880
<v Speaker 1>Because I don't believe, I don't, Oh Joe, at some

0:31:53.000 --> 0:31:55.000
<v Speaker 1>point in time, you gotta stop trying to get stuff.

0:31:55.120 --> 0:31:57.600
<v Speaker 1>You gotta stop trying to like we used to call

0:31:57.640 --> 0:32:00.440
<v Speaker 1>it second hand. You don't have oh, you know what to

0:32:00.480 --> 0:32:02.680
<v Speaker 1>talk about second second hand? Man. It was a long

0:32:02.720 --> 0:32:05.160
<v Speaker 1>time before I had a new car by something myself

0:32:05.480 --> 0:32:08.440
<v Speaker 1>that somebody had to pass gas in it. I want

0:32:08.440 --> 0:32:11.640
<v Speaker 1>to be the person but to pass gas in this car. So,

0:32:12.080 --> 0:32:14.440
<v Speaker 1>oh Joe, you know you're getting second hand stuff. I

0:32:14.480 --> 0:32:16.560
<v Speaker 1>think that needs to move on from that second hand

0:32:16.720 --> 0:32:18.200
<v Speaker 1>and get a quarterback of their own.

0:32:19.840 --> 0:32:21.680
<v Speaker 4>And where you're gonna come from.

0:32:21.800 --> 0:32:25.440
<v Speaker 1>Look the kid from Indiana, Indiana or the kid from

0:32:25.440 --> 0:32:27.520
<v Speaker 1>the Organ they're coming out.

0:32:27.720 --> 0:32:34.760
<v Speaker 2>It's too much money, not too they ain't gonna get it.

0:32:34.760 --> 0:32:38.120
<v Speaker 6>As old joke, No, you put them, you put them

0:32:38.160 --> 0:32:40.760
<v Speaker 6>young bulls in that environment. Have you seen August team?

0:32:41.280 --> 0:32:45.400
<v Speaker 6>Have you seen Indiana? And what you think gonna happen

0:32:45.440 --> 0:32:47.320
<v Speaker 6>to either one of them? If they go to the Raiders?

0:32:48.720 --> 0:32:50.200
<v Speaker 6>What is gonna what they're gonna look like?

0:32:51.080 --> 0:32:51.720
<v Speaker 4>You already know.

0:32:52.040 --> 0:32:54.760
<v Speaker 1>Look, they're they're a long ways away. They need they

0:32:54.800 --> 0:32:59.640
<v Speaker 1>need offensive line, they need defensive players. Look, you gotta

0:32:59.680 --> 0:33:03.560
<v Speaker 1>trade Metrosby. He's the only thing, that's the only thing

0:33:03.600 --> 0:33:06.400
<v Speaker 1>of value that you have that can bring you back

0:33:06.480 --> 0:33:10.760
<v Speaker 1>draft compensation to help you build up. That's the only

0:33:10.760 --> 0:33:12.240
<v Speaker 1>thing of value you got. That's the only thing that

0:33:12.280 --> 0:33:16.160
<v Speaker 1>you can trade. So you're gonna have to trade him

0:33:16.720 --> 0:33:19.120
<v Speaker 1>and and and and get the first and the third

0:33:19.120 --> 0:33:22.960
<v Speaker 1>and the second next year, right, and you got a

0:33:23.000 --> 0:33:23.720
<v Speaker 1>first this year.

0:33:23.800 --> 0:33:26.240
<v Speaker 2>But oh you gotta hit. You gotta hit.

0:33:29.760 --> 0:33:33.160
<v Speaker 4>And that's hard is making sure. It's like going to

0:33:33.200 --> 0:33:38.800
<v Speaker 4>the goddamn casino playing rolette, you know, let you never know.

0:33:40.160 --> 0:33:41.880
<v Speaker 1>Yes, the same thing though, Yeah, I get you. Yeah,

0:33:41.920 --> 0:33:44.840
<v Speaker 1>you spend the ball and you spend the wheel, yeah.

0:33:46.440 --> 0:33:51.400
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, and the numbers yeah, man, come on, man, why

0:33:51.480 --> 0:33:52.360
<v Speaker 4>y'all always corrected?

0:33:54.400 --> 0:33:57.440
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, look you got it. You got Rock Bowers. He's

0:33:57.480 --> 0:33:59.239
<v Speaker 1>one of your top tight ends in the league. So

0:33:59.280 --> 0:34:01.920
<v Speaker 1>you gotta pass catching tight end. You need a receiver.

0:34:02.360 --> 0:34:04.120
<v Speaker 1>You you went into the draft. You got a back

0:34:04.200 --> 0:34:06.320
<v Speaker 1>last year. You need somebody to block for the back.

0:34:06.880 --> 0:34:10.239
<v Speaker 1>You need somebody to block for your quarterback. You got

0:34:10.360 --> 0:34:17.040
<v Speaker 1>you got h Christy, Max troxcuse me, Crosby that he

0:34:17.080 --> 0:34:20.280
<v Speaker 1>can he can. You're not trading. You're not trading brock Bowers.

0:34:20.400 --> 0:34:22.160
<v Speaker 1>The reason why they mentioned him because you're.

0:34:22.000 --> 0:34:22.799
<v Speaker 2>Not trading him.

0:34:23.080 --> 0:34:29.279
<v Speaker 1>No, No, Max Cross can trade and get that can

0:34:29.360 --> 0:34:31.959
<v Speaker 1>help you build this thing back up, because that's really

0:34:31.960 --> 0:34:34.280
<v Speaker 1>the only thing that you have a valuable, that value

0:34:34.520 --> 0:34:36.000
<v Speaker 1>that you're willing to move.

0:34:36.880 --> 0:34:37.279
<v Speaker 2>Mm hmm.

0:34:41.000 --> 0:34:43.200
<v Speaker 1>You gotta start with that foundational piece. Ochoe at the

0:34:43.280 --> 0:34:46.640
<v Speaker 1>end of the day. Yeah, I mean, if you got

0:34:46.680 --> 0:34:48.239
<v Speaker 1>a house, o Joe, what you're gonna get? What's the

0:34:48.239 --> 0:34:49.720
<v Speaker 1>first thing you go buy?

0:34:50.080 --> 0:34:53.920
<v Speaker 2>What? What can't you live without?

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<v Speaker 4>I'm hoping you say furniture.

0:34:56.560 --> 0:34:57.800
<v Speaker 2>I would give you.

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<v Speaker 1>I give you five hundred dollars and you got to

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<v Speaker 1>get one piece, damn in the house. TV man, that's accessory.

0:35:15.080 --> 0:35:17.200
<v Speaker 1>Hey not when you got a phone, I can do that.

0:35:17.200 --> 0:35:18.840
<v Speaker 1>I can watch all that stuff with my phone.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, okay, okay, Damn That's a good one, because

0:35:22.920 --> 0:35:24.600
<v Speaker 4>the first thing I think about by getting the house

0:35:24.880 --> 0:35:26.799
<v Speaker 4>is I need some furniure I got to have somewhere

0:35:26.840 --> 0:35:29.160
<v Speaker 4>the lady lay in my head and a TV. I'm

0:35:29.160 --> 0:35:30.200
<v Speaker 4>trying to think what else.

0:35:30.360 --> 0:35:33.480
<v Speaker 2>I can speak for experience. I bought a house. To me,

0:35:33.719 --> 0:35:34.480
<v Speaker 2>it was over budget.

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<v Speaker 1>Jo, you know what I'm saying that My people don't

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<v Speaker 1>me say, Shannon, you can spend four hundred and twenty

0:35:39.239 --> 0:35:41.880
<v Speaker 1>five thousand, I said, I got you four twenty five.

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<v Speaker 1>I get a figure on hog for four twenty five.

0:35:47.120 --> 0:35:49.160
<v Speaker 1>First house the lady showed me with six twenty five.

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<v Speaker 1>I said, why are you show me in the mouse?

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<v Speaker 1>You know I can't afford this. Let's go somewhere else.

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<v Speaker 1>But I said, before we go somewhere else, let me

0:35:56.360 --> 0:36:03.719
<v Speaker 1>look around. You know what I'm saying, Joe, Oh, Joe,

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<v Speaker 1>I said, before we go. Since we here, now I

0:36:06.280 --> 0:36:08.400
<v Speaker 1>buy as well look around. I put my hands in

0:36:09.320 --> 0:36:09.920
<v Speaker 1>walking there.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

0:36:10.440 --> 0:36:12.080
<v Speaker 4>Hey, that's the game they play on it.

0:36:12.239 --> 0:36:14.640
<v Speaker 2>Oh man, big old. I ain't never seen no walk

0:36:14.719 --> 0:36:15.360
<v Speaker 2>in shower.

0:36:18.960 --> 0:36:22.360
<v Speaker 1>Yeah yeah, I mean our towels were the same place

0:36:22.440 --> 0:36:24.200
<v Speaker 1>my jeans were. You know, I could go get a

0:36:24.200 --> 0:36:26.160
<v Speaker 1>pair of jeans. I ain't get a towel. So you

0:36:26.160 --> 0:36:28.880
<v Speaker 1>know what I'm saying, I ain't never seen no Linny closet. Lenny.

0:36:29.239 --> 0:36:34.400
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah. I walked down. She opened the door. I

0:36:34.480 --> 0:36:34.799
<v Speaker 2>go down.

0:36:35.120 --> 0:36:37.520
<v Speaker 1>I said, this a basement, I said, I said, what

0:36:37.600 --> 0:36:39.080
<v Speaker 1>is that? At the time, I ain't know what it was.

0:36:39.160 --> 0:36:40.960
<v Speaker 1>I said, what is this called? She said, it's a

0:36:41.000 --> 0:36:42.520
<v Speaker 1>basement and it's finished.

0:36:43.760 --> 0:36:44.240
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

0:36:44.480 --> 0:36:49.760
<v Speaker 1>I walk it down there, carpeting three thousand square foot.

0:36:51.360 --> 0:36:54.239
<v Speaker 1>I said, damn, I could just imagine what I could

0:36:54.239 --> 0:36:54.799
<v Speaker 1>be doing in here.

0:36:56.000 --> 0:36:56.160
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

0:36:56.880 --> 0:36:59.279
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, a lot of trampoline. Ass you know what I'm saying. Oh, Joe,

0:36:59.320 --> 0:37:06.439
<v Speaker 1>trampoline your twenty five I fige trampoline. It's okay, I said, okay,

0:37:06.520 --> 0:37:08.000
<v Speaker 1>this is a little bit out of my budget. Let

0:37:08.080 --> 0:37:09.160
<v Speaker 1>me see the other houses.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you know, said Joe. Oh Joe, I said, let

0:37:13.760 --> 0:37:16.719
<v Speaker 2>me see the bad one. Hey, then four twenty five?

0:37:16.760 --> 0:37:18.360
<v Speaker 2>May hear that like that? Okay?

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<v Speaker 1>She said, well okay, mister sharp, this is like this

0:37:20.920 --> 0:37:24.239
<v Speaker 1>is like four thirty five to four fifty she saw

0:37:24.360 --> 0:37:25.640
<v Speaker 1>she I sold those houses.

0:37:25.640 --> 0:37:27.279
<v Speaker 2>I walked there, hadn't hand the pocket just like that

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<v Speaker 2>right here.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't want this. I go to the other with y'all. Yo,

0:37:37.560 --> 0:37:40.920
<v Speaker 1>same thing, hands in my pocket. I look around up,

0:37:42.920 --> 0:37:44.520
<v Speaker 1>I said, look, go back and look at the other house,

0:37:45.480 --> 0:37:47.000
<v Speaker 1>look at the how the first time you showed me

0:37:47.120 --> 0:37:49.239
<v Speaker 1>that first when you showed me she said, you sure,

0:37:49.320 --> 0:37:51.280
<v Speaker 1>mister sharp, because they told me the budget.

0:37:52.440 --> 0:37:56.880
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, I go back there. I started started flagging.

0:37:58.400 --> 0:38:02.840
<v Speaker 1>I said, I'm right here in the heart of Buckhead, man,

0:38:02.440 --> 0:38:04.400
<v Speaker 1>I'm there. I can walk the Philis Flatts, so I

0:38:04.440 --> 0:38:08.360
<v Speaker 1>can walk to Lenox Mall. Yes, I can walk to

0:38:08.400 --> 0:38:11.040
<v Speaker 1>the movie theaters that's in fields Platters because back then, Joe,

0:38:11.040 --> 0:38:13.239
<v Speaker 1>I don't know if you remember, Oh, when you got there,

0:38:13.640 --> 0:38:17.919
<v Speaker 1>they used to have a movie theater in Lenox Mall. Yeah,

0:38:17.800 --> 0:38:20.040
<v Speaker 1>over till old boy got shot. A dude got shot there.

0:38:20.160 --> 0:38:21.759
<v Speaker 1>But it was you didn't want to go there. I'll

0:38:21.800 --> 0:38:24.239
<v Speaker 1>tell you about that later, Joe. But anyway, yeah, I said,

0:38:25.640 --> 0:38:29.840
<v Speaker 1>I was thinking about it. I remember she dropped me

0:38:29.840 --> 0:38:32.239
<v Speaker 1>back because at the time she dropped me back at

0:38:32.239 --> 0:38:36.080
<v Speaker 1>the hotel. Yeah, she said, what do you think, mister Sharp?

0:38:38.000 --> 0:38:39.640
<v Speaker 1>I said, I think I'm about to be over budget.

0:38:46.520 --> 0:38:50.120
<v Speaker 1>I said, I think over budget. Hey, that's how they

0:38:50.239 --> 0:38:54.200
<v Speaker 1>got me, you know who. I bought the sugar y

0:38:54.320 --> 0:38:55.840
<v Speaker 1>Letonar's ex wife, Juanita.

0:38:56.440 --> 0:38:59.960
<v Speaker 2>I did, boy, they got you. Hey, they got you,

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<v Speaker 2>just how they got me.

0:39:03.239 --> 0:39:04.840
<v Speaker 4>I they got Joe, Ojoe.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm out here, supposed to be looking for me a

0:39:06.640 --> 0:39:09.799
<v Speaker 5>nice little townhouse. I just come from Phoenix, ya out

0:39:09.800 --> 0:39:14.880
<v Speaker 5>here to Atlanta. Okay, uh man uh you know Sharif

0:39:14.920 --> 0:39:17.520
<v Speaker 5>abdul raheem. He just built this house out here in

0:39:17.840 --> 0:39:21.439
<v Speaker 5>Sandy Springs. Yes, he's been living in in six months.

0:39:21.840 --> 0:39:26.759
<v Speaker 5>I said, we can go by there. We come by here, o, Joe.

0:39:26.760 --> 0:39:35.080
<v Speaker 5>I'm still in the house, and we come back, Ojoe,

0:39:35.120 --> 0:39:37.319
<v Speaker 5>we come by here. They got the chef in there.

0:39:37.360 --> 0:39:40.560
<v Speaker 5>He got everything whipped up, right, man, I supposed to

0:39:40.560 --> 0:39:41.480
<v Speaker 5>be looking at the townhouse.

0:39:41.480 --> 0:39:47.560
<v Speaker 2>It's fourteen. Look, you ain't finna take me go look

0:39:47.600 --> 0:39:48.320
<v Speaker 2>at no town.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know why you, Joe, why not start with

0:39:52.960 --> 0:39:55.120
<v Speaker 1>the four twenty fives first? Right?

0:39:55.680 --> 0:39:57.520
<v Speaker 2>Why you start with this? If they I'm about to

0:39:57.520 --> 0:39:59.480
<v Speaker 2>go to that hold.

0:39:59.280 --> 0:40:01.120
<v Speaker 4>On, time out, my time out, time out.

0:40:01.360 --> 0:40:01.520
<v Speaker 2>Let.

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<v Speaker 4>Let's slow down a little bit, because Joe just through

0:40:04.120 --> 0:40:06.320
<v Speaker 4>the out there like I like, we me and the

0:40:06.400 --> 0:40:07.160
<v Speaker 4>chat ain't hear him?

0:40:07.200 --> 0:40:10.160
<v Speaker 2>Just say, honey, I'm just keeping it one.

0:40:10.320 --> 0:40:13.440
<v Speaker 4>Feen thousand square feet. Boy, boy, you in Buckingham.

0:40:12.960 --> 0:40:15.759
<v Speaker 2>Palace, O Joe, O Joe, O Joe.

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<v Speaker 5>Listen, look boy, I had to have a long talk

0:40:18.400 --> 0:40:19.960
<v Speaker 5>with my mama about this was.

0:40:21.480 --> 0:40:22.000
<v Speaker 4>Townhouse.

0:40:22.000 --> 0:40:23.120
<v Speaker 2>I ain't been to go to no town.

0:40:24.320 --> 0:40:26.200
<v Speaker 4>Hey Joe, Hey Joe, I got to. I got to

0:40:26.200 --> 0:40:27.160
<v Speaker 4>come out there and all. Let you.

0:40:27.560 --> 0:40:28.840
<v Speaker 2>You gotta come see me, Come see me.

0:40:29.440 --> 0:40:32.520
<v Speaker 4>Hey, you like you said your property, that's a property.

0:40:32.560 --> 0:40:37.960
<v Speaker 1>Ain't no house, hey, O Joe, thiss o Joe, it

0:40:38.000 --> 0:40:45.120
<v Speaker 1>ain't just the house. I got three kids all over three? Oh,

0:40:45.840 --> 0:40:50.200
<v Speaker 1>I said, man, how amouna make this work? I was like, oh,

0:40:50.640 --> 0:40:55.160
<v Speaker 1>I said man, O Joe swept for guard and two

0:40:55.239 --> 0:40:57.560
<v Speaker 1>white men. I would even catch up with a mith needle.

0:40:58.200 --> 0:41:00.560
<v Speaker 1>Bad look at you. I ain't no man, I ain't

0:41:00.560 --> 0:41:03.319
<v Speaker 1>never ain't so much tuna, oat meal and eggs in

0:41:03.320 --> 0:41:04.120
<v Speaker 1>my life.

0:41:05.400 --> 0:41:05.560
<v Speaker 4>Man.

0:41:05.640 --> 0:41:07.960
<v Speaker 2>I went to Sam's. I was I was buying like

0:41:08.080 --> 0:41:11.520
<v Speaker 2>seven eight dozen, like twenty dozen eggs at a time.

0:41:11.880 --> 0:41:16.200
<v Speaker 2>I was getting. I was getting palettes of tuna. That's

0:41:16.200 --> 0:41:17.839
<v Speaker 2>what I'm like. I gotta pay for that. I gotta

0:41:17.840 --> 0:41:19.200
<v Speaker 2>pay for the house I got paid for.

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<v Speaker 4>That's what hey, hey, listen, you gotta make you gotta

0:41:22.960 --> 0:41:28.040
<v Speaker 4>sund you want you wanted that house to listen, I

0:41:28.680 --> 0:41:32.040
<v Speaker 4>understand your pain. I've been there before, maybe not maybe

0:41:32.080 --> 0:41:34.759
<v Speaker 4>not to that extent, but listen, we we've all had

0:41:35.120 --> 0:41:38.600
<v Speaker 4>to sacrifice something for something else that we like, and

0:41:38.640 --> 0:41:41.560
<v Speaker 4>we love you, we appreciate at that at that time,

0:41:42.360 --> 0:41:46.520
<v Speaker 4>knowing it's out our budget. Hey knowing good well, because

0:41:46.520 --> 0:41:47.120
<v Speaker 4>we know it can't.

0:41:47.719 --> 0:41:50.239
<v Speaker 1>Ain't no coming. I ain't had no take nothing either.

0:41:50.400 --> 0:41:52.000
<v Speaker 2>I didn't. I had a couch.

0:41:52.360 --> 0:41:55.960
<v Speaker 1>Then I had a bad That's all I had for Hey.

0:41:56.520 --> 0:42:00.319
<v Speaker 5>Hey, look, hey, hey, had you working hard as all cakes?

0:42:00.719 --> 0:42:02.239
<v Speaker 2>I had a cake size bed. I had a cakese

0:42:02.280 --> 0:42:04.880
<v Speaker 2>I bed. Uh what's that?

0:42:05.200 --> 0:42:09.440
<v Speaker 1>H You remember the furniture store, huffs Joe, right there

0:42:09.480 --> 0:42:12.400
<v Speaker 1>on Ladies Road by the church. It used to be

0:42:12.400 --> 0:42:20.239
<v Speaker 1>a glass It was a big glass building right there. Uh,

0:42:20.280 --> 0:42:22.799
<v Speaker 1>but the furniture, that's what it all. All the high

0:42:22.880 --> 0:42:24.879
<v Speaker 1>end black entertainers a limb. They used to go get

0:42:24.880 --> 0:42:25.520
<v Speaker 1>their furniture from there.

0:42:25.600 --> 0:42:28.000
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, you probably.

0:42:29.320 --> 0:42:31.399
<v Speaker 1>Do that, but you know I had to get don't

0:42:31.400 --> 0:42:34.439
<v Speaker 1>even take it like, oh oh, Joe, Joe, I had

0:42:34.440 --> 0:42:38.160
<v Speaker 1>a bed, but you don't. My bed was black lacquer,

0:42:39.320 --> 0:42:45.080
<v Speaker 1>black lacker, and it light up like like an infinity

0:42:45.160 --> 0:42:46.440
<v Speaker 1>like infinity.

0:42:46.640 --> 0:42:48.160
<v Speaker 4>And Ellie and hold on.

0:42:48.480 --> 0:42:52.040
<v Speaker 1>You had before it was cool, before it was before

0:42:52.040 --> 0:42:55.320
<v Speaker 1>it was the stop right. Hey, let me tell you

0:42:55.320 --> 0:42:56.640
<v Speaker 1>what I did. Let me tell you what I had,

0:42:56.680 --> 0:42:59.640
<v Speaker 1>Oh Joe, I slurred a little bit. I went all

0:42:59.680 --> 0:43:01.799
<v Speaker 1>it out. Who like I said, I would even catch

0:43:01.840 --> 0:43:02.560
<v Speaker 1>up with a knit needle.

0:43:03.719 --> 0:43:04.960
<v Speaker 4>Come on, take your time.

0:43:05.080 --> 0:43:08.960
<v Speaker 1>And I had me a level comforter custom made for

0:43:09.000 --> 0:43:09.359
<v Speaker 1>the bed.

0:43:10.040 --> 0:43:11.799
<v Speaker 2>You cut up level think?

0:43:11.880 --> 0:43:18.000
<v Speaker 1>I what whatever? Lether comforter custom for the bed?

0:43:19.400 --> 0:43:19.920
<v Speaker 4>Yeah?

0:43:20.560 --> 0:43:20.960
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah.

0:43:21.280 --> 0:43:23.120
<v Speaker 1>Then I did a car sign and you know I

0:43:23.120 --> 0:43:24.560
<v Speaker 1>did a car if you know back then you saw

0:43:24.560 --> 0:43:26.839
<v Speaker 1>a kind of signed cars. Uh, they gave you boy

0:43:26.840 --> 0:43:29.719
<v Speaker 1>a little money. I signed like two thousand cars, got

0:43:29.719 --> 0:43:30.760
<v Speaker 1>me about twelve five.

0:43:32.160 --> 0:43:39.359
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, bought me some satin sheets, sat team. Hey, how

0:43:39.360 --> 0:43:39.960
<v Speaker 2>about this here?

0:43:40.400 --> 0:43:43.239
<v Speaker 1>Man? You know I see them in the movies how

0:43:43.239 --> 0:43:45.560
<v Speaker 1>they run jump in the band? How I go jump

0:43:45.600 --> 0:43:48.280
<v Speaker 1>in the best always cost the floor with the other.

0:43:48.160 --> 0:43:51.680
<v Speaker 2>Side on the floor. I went. I said, oh man,

0:43:52.160 --> 0:43:54.400
<v Speaker 2>this stuff looked good. This ain't functional.

0:43:56.719 --> 0:43:59.239
<v Speaker 5>Hey, hey, hold up, but why are you talking? Oh Joe,

0:43:59.520 --> 0:44:01.279
<v Speaker 5>y'all still do a card signings?

0:44:01.840 --> 0:44:04.359
<v Speaker 2>I do, I do, I do every every blue moon.

0:44:04.440 --> 0:44:06.879
<v Speaker 1>Joe because back then, you know, my brother would take

0:44:06.920 --> 0:44:09.239
<v Speaker 1>me like they want my brother. He had just but

0:44:09.400 --> 0:44:11.839
<v Speaker 1>in the beginning, they wanted my brother because he had,

0:44:11.920 --> 0:44:15.479
<v Speaker 1>you know, won the Triple Crown. He was an All

0:44:15.560 --> 0:44:18.320
<v Speaker 1>pro first, you know, a hundred catch season, back to

0:44:18.400 --> 0:44:21.440
<v Speaker 1>back hundred catch seasons. So they wanted him and all

0:44:21.480 --> 0:44:23.879
<v Speaker 1>the way he would go do the signing. They had

0:44:23.920 --> 0:44:26.680
<v Speaker 1>to take me. So they thought, you bought twenty five

0:44:26.760 --> 0:44:32.200
<v Speaker 1>hundred five thousand, right right, I mean one time I

0:44:32.239 --> 0:44:34.560
<v Speaker 1>signed ten thousand cards.

0:44:35.640 --> 0:44:38.040
<v Speaker 2>Damn in one sinding.

0:44:38.680 --> 0:44:41.160
<v Speaker 1>They gave you, they gave you three months.

0:44:41.680 --> 0:44:42.960
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, oh to get through it.

0:44:43.000 --> 0:44:45.200
<v Speaker 4>Okay, okay, but I was I had a couch.

0:44:45.880 --> 0:44:50.319
<v Speaker 1>I had a couch and had no TV. But I

0:44:50.360 --> 0:44:52.680
<v Speaker 1>had a bed and the bed was nice. I'm just

0:44:52.719 --> 0:44:55.560
<v Speaker 1>saying the bed wasnce. The bed was nice.

0:44:57.520 --> 0:44:57.759
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

0:44:57.880 --> 0:45:01.200
<v Speaker 5>Hey, I'm still doing card signings to this day.

0:45:01.400 --> 0:45:03.640
<v Speaker 4>Yeah yeah, yeah, I still I still sign a lot.

0:45:03.680 --> 0:45:09.000
<v Speaker 1>By I look back, I look back, I think about

0:45:09.040 --> 0:45:11.360
<v Speaker 1>sometime now, I'll just be laying that I was like, damn,

0:45:12.480 --> 0:45:16.160
<v Speaker 1>if they could have went sideways of a hurry. Oh yeah,

0:45:16.200 --> 0:45:19.160
<v Speaker 1>I ain't have no choice. You were shooting up. Yeah,

0:45:19.200 --> 0:45:23.200
<v Speaker 1>I was shooting up. Had I got three I got

0:45:23.200 --> 0:45:25.560
<v Speaker 1>to get on. I got three kids, they in daycare,

0:45:27.040 --> 0:45:29.920
<v Speaker 1>and I got I still gotta take care of Granted,

0:45:30.040 --> 0:45:33.000
<v Speaker 1>I still gotta take care of living mom everyone in

0:45:33.040 --> 0:45:36.120
<v Speaker 1>a while, plus the kid. That's my number one responsibility.

0:45:36.200 --> 0:45:39.799
<v Speaker 1>So if I gotta do without, I'm cool. People say, man,

0:45:40.360 --> 0:45:43.120
<v Speaker 1>I could train myself. I'll go a couple of days

0:45:43.120 --> 0:45:48.520
<v Speaker 1>without eating. He'll be killing so hungry.

0:45:49.120 --> 0:45:50.520
<v Speaker 2>But I said, yeah, I got.

0:45:50.520 --> 0:45:52.640
<v Speaker 1>I gotta put myself in a situation because if I

0:45:52.680 --> 0:45:55.080
<v Speaker 1>ever have to not be able to eat, I'm gonna

0:45:55.080 --> 0:45:55.640
<v Speaker 1>be good with you.

0:45:56.640 --> 0:46:00.000
<v Speaker 5>Hey, Hey, it's a lot of people, ain't They ain't

0:46:00.000 --> 0:46:02.799
<v Speaker 5>gonna be to understand what you're saying. Bro, No, it's

0:46:02.840 --> 0:46:04.239
<v Speaker 5>just a lot of us. It's a lot of us

0:46:04.280 --> 0:46:05.400
<v Speaker 5>who have been there and done that.

0:46:05.920 --> 0:46:08.280
<v Speaker 4>Hey, Joe, the funny thing about it is is the people.

0:46:08.400 --> 0:46:11.200
<v Speaker 4>The people aren't gonna understand because they've they've only seen

0:46:11.239 --> 0:46:14.560
<v Speaker 4>the finished prought up. They've only seen the finish. They've

0:46:14.560 --> 0:46:17.759
<v Speaker 4>only seen you on Sundays. They don't understand the walk

0:46:17.840 --> 0:46:19.759
<v Speaker 4>you took, in the path you took to get to

0:46:19.840 --> 0:46:22.600
<v Speaker 4>where you are. They don't understand the sacrifices that came

0:46:22.640 --> 0:46:24.719
<v Speaker 4>along that God damn journey.

0:46:24.560 --> 0:46:27.719
<v Speaker 6>Before you got to what you see on Sundays.

0:46:29.440 --> 0:46:31.960
<v Speaker 4>They'll never get it. They'll never get it.

0:46:32.080 --> 0:46:34.240
<v Speaker 1>When I called the phrase to me, I wore summer clothes,

0:46:34.440 --> 0:46:36.600
<v Speaker 1>I told him. And when I went to college, I said, man,

0:46:36.640 --> 0:46:38.879
<v Speaker 1>I wore summer clothes. Man looked at me and said,

0:46:38.880 --> 0:46:41.120
<v Speaker 1>what you mean summer clothes. Some of my brothers, some

0:46:41.200 --> 0:46:45.759
<v Speaker 1>of my uncles, some of my clubs, that your past

0:46:45.840 --> 0:46:46.759
<v Speaker 1>that bang on down.

0:46:49.040 --> 0:46:54.520
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, what us last year? I got the man?

0:46:54.719 --> 0:46:58.000
<v Speaker 1>Listen and when you when it got too small for me,

0:46:58.480 --> 0:47:00.799
<v Speaker 1>that's the jeans they cut up. And you know back then,

0:47:00.880 --> 0:47:02.640
<v Speaker 1>you know you're on your you're on your knees. You

0:47:02.719 --> 0:47:05.400
<v Speaker 1>put holes in your knees in jeans. My grandma was

0:47:05.880 --> 0:47:11.480
<v Speaker 1>that ain't gotten too small for me? Man, all that stitching.

0:47:11.680 --> 0:47:18.319
<v Speaker 1>Come on, granny. This when you was in college, I was.

0:47:18.480 --> 0:47:20.840
<v Speaker 1>I was in the coming up in school. I was

0:47:20.840 --> 0:47:22.880
<v Speaker 1>coming out there. But no, when I was in college,

0:47:22.880 --> 0:47:26.840
<v Speaker 1>you know, look, I went to college. I had matching luggage.

0:47:27.200 --> 0:47:30.439
<v Speaker 1>I had two piggy wiggy bags with everything I owned

0:47:30.440 --> 0:47:33.600
<v Speaker 1>this side of them. I haven't match your luggage, Oh,

0:47:33.680 --> 0:47:36.440
<v Speaker 1>Joe Pickley Wiggly, No, it might have been winnings at

0:47:36.440 --> 0:47:39.720
<v Speaker 1>the time they changed. But I had two brown bags.

0:47:40.239 --> 0:47:42.480
<v Speaker 1>You don't believe in As Pastor Cord, I went to

0:47:42.520 --> 0:47:44.719
<v Speaker 1>college class of eighty six, That's that's what we call

0:47:44.760 --> 0:47:48.879
<v Speaker 1>myself eighty six, and somehow I showed up two Winn

0:47:48.960 --> 0:47:52.360
<v Speaker 1>Dixie brown brown grocery bags. I had everything I owned

0:47:52.360 --> 0:47:53.200
<v Speaker 1>in those bags.

0:47:54.960 --> 0:47:57.640
<v Speaker 5>Hey, I believe boy, I ain't had much in thathing

0:47:57.640 --> 0:47:59.239
<v Speaker 5>when I went to college, Lea, I ain't gonna lie

0:47:59.239 --> 0:48:01.520
<v Speaker 5>to tell you. I used to want to cramp out

0:48:01.560 --> 0:48:03.560
<v Speaker 5>them Arkansas Raizor Bank Swiss Oo.

0:48:04.400 --> 0:48:06.720
<v Speaker 2>I'm talking about all kinds of stuff on them.

0:48:06.560 --> 0:48:08.320
<v Speaker 4>Swiss like it was designed.

0:48:08.360 --> 0:48:12.080
<v Speaker 2>Uh huh man, what you talking about? And you remember.

0:48:13.280 --> 0:48:17.719
<v Speaker 1>Like in the dorm you had like we had one

0:48:17.920 --> 0:48:22.600
<v Speaker 1>wash it, we had two washers, two drives. Now think

0:48:22.640 --> 0:48:29.040
<v Speaker 1>about it, you got long, you might got seventy guys,

0:48:29.840 --> 0:48:34.240
<v Speaker 1>two washers, two drives. So guess what happened. Guess what happened.

0:48:34.520 --> 0:48:37.880
<v Speaker 1>If your stuff, your stuff, you're not there.

0:48:37.680 --> 0:48:41.480
<v Speaker 3>To see it, it's gonna be on top and somebody

0:48:41.520 --> 0:48:44.480
<v Speaker 3>else stuff in there, and you just hope your best

0:48:44.600 --> 0:48:47.160
<v Speaker 3>eyes on shirt and your best stuff you see somebody

0:48:47.160 --> 0:48:48.600
<v Speaker 3>with me.

0:48:49.840 --> 0:48:52.680
<v Speaker 5>Hey, Hey, and you already know though, when you're down

0:48:52.719 --> 0:48:54.080
<v Speaker 5>there washing them clothes and college.

0:48:54.080 --> 0:48:56.279
<v Speaker 2>You got to stay to stay down there with you.

0:48:56.280 --> 0:48:58.200
<v Speaker 2>You can't put the starting them clothes and talking about

0:48:58.200 --> 0:48:59.160
<v Speaker 2>you gonna go to your boat.

0:48:59.320 --> 0:49:04.759
<v Speaker 1>Okay, okay, Hey, that was the best thing on Joe

0:49:04.760 --> 0:49:05.759
<v Speaker 1>when I got a girlfriend.

0:49:05.920 --> 0:49:07.600
<v Speaker 2>I got a girlfriend my junior year.

0:49:08.760 --> 0:49:13.880
<v Speaker 1>Yeah yeah, Hey you think, Hey, everything wash it folded

0:49:14.000 --> 0:49:17.400
<v Speaker 1>up because you know I'm just washing. I I'm dumping

0:49:17.440 --> 0:49:19.560
<v Speaker 1>everything in there together, throwing in there.

0:49:22.280 --> 0:49:24.399
<v Speaker 6>You ain't saying you ain't separating nothing.

0:49:24.400 --> 0:49:24.799
<v Speaker 4>You washing.

0:49:25.000 --> 0:49:28.760
<v Speaker 2>I'm washing everything. I ain't the only thing that average bleach.

0:49:28.840 --> 0:49:30.920
<v Speaker 1>I just knew you couldn't put bleach in color, but

0:49:30.960 --> 0:49:34.400
<v Speaker 1>everything else, Hey, tiede, that's that's the only that's the

0:49:34.400 --> 0:49:35.880
<v Speaker 1>only that's the only thing we always use.

0:49:35.920 --> 0:49:36.879
<v Speaker 2>We only use tide.

0:49:37.239 --> 0:49:40.560
<v Speaker 1>We have no fabric soften that we have nothing static

0:49:40.600 --> 0:49:43.880
<v Speaker 1>and that pie. I have my four pair of socks

0:49:43.880 --> 0:49:49.239
<v Speaker 1>stuck to my gee. Shall y'all know, y'all know what

0:49:49.239 --> 0:49:52.239
<v Speaker 1>I'm talking about. I ain't the only one. Hey, I

0:49:52.280 --> 0:49:58.040
<v Speaker 1>remember them days throw back? Uh? Is it rare to

0:49:58.080 --> 0:50:01.319
<v Speaker 1>see Pete Carroll because the one thing we know about

0:50:01.320 --> 0:50:03.600
<v Speaker 1>pre Caroll, he can rebuild. Look at what he did

0:50:03.600 --> 0:50:06.319
<v Speaker 1>at USC look at what he did at Seattle. Are

0:50:06.360 --> 0:50:09.120
<v Speaker 1>you surprised that they didn't give him more time to

0:50:09.160 --> 0:50:11.480
<v Speaker 1>try to get this thing turned around than one year?

0:50:12.800 --> 0:50:15.799
<v Speaker 4>No, absolutely not. I'm not surprised at all, obviously because

0:50:15.920 --> 0:50:18.759
<v Speaker 4>where they were ranked offensively and defensively. I'm not sure

0:50:18.760 --> 0:50:21.759
<v Speaker 4>if the players were responding to Pete Carroll. Obviously, I

0:50:21.760 --> 0:50:23.319
<v Speaker 4>think they want to go a little bit younger when

0:50:23.320 --> 0:50:26.319
<v Speaker 4>it comes to the coaching staff that they that they

0:50:26.320 --> 0:50:27.759
<v Speaker 4>want to bring in, they want to go in a

0:50:27.760 --> 0:50:31.680
<v Speaker 4>completely different direction. Obviously, I love Peter, love what Peter's

0:50:31.719 --> 0:50:33.840
<v Speaker 4>been able to do at the NFL level, at the

0:50:33.880 --> 0:50:38.520
<v Speaker 4>collegiate level, but it's obvious that Tom and others that

0:50:38.560 --> 0:50:40.840
<v Speaker 4>are making those calls in that building want to go

0:50:40.960 --> 0:50:44.879
<v Speaker 4>much younger, to another coach where the players a little

0:50:44.880 --> 0:50:46.960
<v Speaker 4>bit more receptive to what they.

0:50:46.840 --> 0:50:47.359
<v Speaker 2>Have to say.

0:50:48.000 --> 0:50:51.280
<v Speaker 1>But think about what he had in Seattle. They get Russ,

0:50:51.560 --> 0:50:56.000
<v Speaker 1>they get Shared, they get b Wags, they get Cliff Abril,

0:50:56.320 --> 0:50:59.759
<v Speaker 1>they get Earl Thomas, they got cam Look at what

0:50:59.800 --> 0:51:02.840
<v Speaker 1>they Look at what they're doing now. They trade for beasts, Mold,

0:51:03.120 --> 0:51:08.160
<v Speaker 1>they draft those receivers, Cursed and Baldwin. You see, look

0:51:08.200 --> 0:51:11.080
<v Speaker 1>at what they got now you got Russ. Now you

0:51:11.120 --> 0:51:15.239
<v Speaker 1>got a nucleus. What nucleus is in in excuse me

0:51:15.320 --> 0:51:16.000
<v Speaker 1>in Vegas?

0:51:16.880 --> 0:51:24.440
<v Speaker 4>It ain't mac Crosby brock Bowels, even though it's early.

0:51:24.440 --> 0:51:27.560
<v Speaker 1>And with that, it wasn't until they got the quarterback

0:51:27.600 --> 0:51:31.560
<v Speaker 1>with Russ, Yeah, that they were able and part with

0:51:31.600 --> 0:51:35.279
<v Speaker 1>that legion of boom. They get Michael Benett, you know,

0:51:35.280 --> 0:51:38.280
<v Speaker 1>they get Michael Benett, and they get you know, Malcolm Smith,

0:51:38.320 --> 0:51:42.240
<v Speaker 1>and they get a couple of these other guys and yeah, wila.

0:51:43.320 --> 0:51:45.920
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, that's a that's AOK time now.

0:51:47.040 --> 0:51:50.359
<v Speaker 1>Team, they give you no time now, o Joe oh, Joe,

0:51:50.560 --> 0:51:53.200
<v Speaker 1>Zach Taylor apparently who.

0:51:52.640 --> 0:51:53.239
<v Speaker 2>Will pass oh?

0:51:53.360 --> 0:51:56.400
<v Speaker 1>Listening to Joe Burrow and Jamar Chase their desire to

0:51:56.440 --> 0:51:59.840
<v Speaker 1>make change in the big and those Bengals organization, Taylor's

0:52:00.000 --> 0:52:02.640
<v Speaker 1>good on Bens today, stating that he does not plan

0:52:02.719 --> 0:52:06.120
<v Speaker 1>on making any changes to the coaches down. He compiled

0:52:06.120 --> 0:52:08.719
<v Speaker 1>a fifty two, sixty three and one record over the

0:52:08.800 --> 0:52:11.439
<v Speaker 1>last seventh season and led the Bengals to the Super

0:52:11.480 --> 0:52:14.680
<v Speaker 1>Bowl in twenty twenty one. The Bengals defense was one

0:52:14.680 --> 0:52:18.280
<v Speaker 1>of the worst in the NFL, ranking thirtieth in points allowed,

0:52:18.480 --> 0:52:22.600
<v Speaker 1>thirty first in total yard surrender. Even with those dismal stats,

0:52:23.040 --> 0:52:26.960
<v Speaker 1>Taylor plans to bring back defensive coordinator Al Golden for

0:52:27.120 --> 0:52:28.880
<v Speaker 1>a second season.

0:52:28.600 --> 0:52:29.800
<v Speaker 2>In the role o.

0:52:30.040 --> 0:52:34.040
<v Speaker 1>Yo, are you surprised with how bad the note? I'm

0:52:34.080 --> 0:52:37.160
<v Speaker 1>not made that he's not willing to make any changes.

0:52:39.400 --> 0:52:43.000
<v Speaker 4>Absolutely not. Because listen, they said lou Anroma was a problem.

0:52:43.120 --> 0:52:45.520
<v Speaker 4>The year before last, lou An Roma went to the

0:52:45.520 --> 0:52:48.040
<v Speaker 4>goddamn Coats and they had a good defense. Because you

0:52:48.040 --> 0:52:49.879
<v Speaker 4>know why they had a good defense in Indy, because

0:52:49.880 --> 0:52:51.960
<v Speaker 4>they had the players. You'll be able to execute the

0:52:52.000 --> 0:52:55.080
<v Speaker 4>scheme and the taxes that lou and Rouma wanted to run. Listen,

0:52:55.200 --> 0:52:59.800
<v Speaker 4>Al Golden, the Disciples, Jesus of Nazareth, God, it wouldn't

0:52:59.800 --> 0:53:01.759
<v Speaker 4>matter who was coaching that goddamn defense.

0:53:01.520 --> 0:53:02.560
<v Speaker 2>Joe, Huh.

0:53:02.600 --> 0:53:05.640
<v Speaker 4>They wasn't gonna be able to perform in this off season.

0:53:06.160 --> 0:53:08.799
<v Speaker 4>This off season for the Bengals, the only focus for

0:53:08.880 --> 0:53:13.080
<v Speaker 4>us needs to be in the draft and off season.

0:53:12.880 --> 0:53:15.640
<v Speaker 6>Acquisitions needs to be defensive help.

0:53:16.160 --> 0:53:19.880
<v Speaker 4>It needs to be defensive help. Honestly, I've said this,

0:53:20.000 --> 0:53:23.319
<v Speaker 4>playing around, playing around, obviously saying stuff I would love.

0:53:23.400 --> 0:53:26.720
<v Speaker 4>Jeffrey Simmons, I'm not sure that's possible with Tennessee biblot

0:53:26.760 --> 0:53:29.520
<v Speaker 4>willing to let him go. No, will Mike Brown pay him?

0:53:29.719 --> 0:53:33.000
<v Speaker 4>Absolutely absolutely, based on what we just saw last year

0:53:33.040 --> 0:53:35.399
<v Speaker 4>and what we saw the previous year, Yes, they.

0:53:35.320 --> 0:53:36.640
<v Speaker 2>Will do it. He will do it.

0:53:38.560 --> 0:53:41.640
<v Speaker 4>Another thing, we need three pieces. We need some at

0:53:41.719 --> 0:53:43.880
<v Speaker 4>all three levels. We need some on the front, on

0:53:44.320 --> 0:53:46.560
<v Speaker 4>the front level, and on the back end. I love

0:53:46.680 --> 0:53:49.560
<v Speaker 4>DJ Turner, I love DJ Turner. I love what he's

0:53:49.600 --> 0:53:51.600
<v Speaker 4>turned out to be. He's gonna get paid this off

0:53:51.600 --> 0:53:55.279
<v Speaker 4>season at the second level. Demetrir's Night. He needs to

0:53:55.320 --> 0:53:57.560
<v Speaker 4>have that goddamn seal on his checks next year. Young

0:53:57.600 --> 0:54:03.239
<v Speaker 4>Buller's Knights, Soth Carol game call. Hey, hey, Joe, when

0:54:03.239 --> 0:54:05.919
<v Speaker 4>your turn on the tape, that young bull all over

0:54:05.960 --> 0:54:08.359
<v Speaker 4>the place. Boy, he got a moto on him.

0:54:09.000 --> 0:54:10.680
<v Speaker 6>Hey, he gonna be nice.

0:54:10.680 --> 0:54:13.759
<v Speaker 4>He gonna be something. So we need three pieces, Joe,

0:54:13.920 --> 0:54:16.560
<v Speaker 4>We need three get something on that third level. We

0:54:16.640 --> 0:54:19.760
<v Speaker 4>get somebody like Jeffery Simmons to help stop that run.

0:54:20.000 --> 0:54:23.879
<v Speaker 4>And hoping Shamar Stewart in his second year gets much

0:54:23.880 --> 0:54:25.960
<v Speaker 4>better as opposed to what we saw this year from him,

0:54:26.120 --> 0:54:28.160
<v Speaker 4>to go early in the draft and live up to

0:54:28.200 --> 0:54:29.520
<v Speaker 4>that high round expectation.

0:54:30.400 --> 0:54:32.239
<v Speaker 2>I think we're gonna be all right, y'all.

0:54:32.239 --> 0:54:34.799
<v Speaker 5>All right, y'all gonna have to get that out the draft,

0:54:34.800 --> 0:54:36.840
<v Speaker 5>ain't you, Oh, Joe, y'all got some y'all got too

0:54:36.920 --> 0:54:38.400
<v Speaker 5>much money tied up in that offense.

0:54:38.719 --> 0:54:41.000
<v Speaker 6>Hey, Joe, you ain't never lie. Listen with you me.

0:54:41.160 --> 0:54:42.840
<v Speaker 4>I'm picking up what you're putting down, Joe, But we

0:54:42.840 --> 0:54:43.279
<v Speaker 4>got to do.

0:54:43.239 --> 0:54:43.719
<v Speaker 2>Something you got.

0:54:43.880 --> 0:54:45.720
<v Speaker 1>Y'all gonna have to redo what you call them contract

0:54:45.719 --> 0:54:51.280
<v Speaker 1>because uh T was basically a one year deal. Yeah,

0:54:51.560 --> 0:54:55.080
<v Speaker 1>he was basically one year deal, O Joe. Yeah, but

0:54:55.160 --> 0:54:57.120
<v Speaker 1>you need some off his aligne with two at some

0:54:57.160 --> 0:55:00.920
<v Speaker 1>point in time. Y'all gotta stop getting Joe hit, Yeah,

0:55:01.040 --> 0:55:04.200
<v Speaker 1>because that's not your offense. Y'all s fair things up

0:55:04.239 --> 0:55:06.480
<v Speaker 1>on Sunday just to try to keep Miles from getting

0:55:06.520 --> 0:55:08.400
<v Speaker 1>that y'all pushed the ball down the field.

0:55:08.560 --> 0:55:10.320
<v Speaker 2>Y'all really didn't push the ball down the field, but

0:55:10.400 --> 0:55:11.120
<v Speaker 2>one time, won't.

0:55:11.040 --> 0:55:13.319
<v Speaker 1>Joe because y'all was trying to get the ball out

0:55:13.360 --> 0:55:15.840
<v Speaker 1>of his hands because you didn't want to try to

0:55:15.840 --> 0:55:16.760
<v Speaker 1>get to your quarterback.

0:55:17.719 --> 0:55:19.879
<v Speaker 6>As matter of fact, it's so funny. What did I say?

0:55:19.880 --> 0:55:20.000
<v Speaker 1>What?

0:55:20.080 --> 0:55:21.480
<v Speaker 4>How did I say? The game was gonna look?

0:55:21.520 --> 0:55:21.719
<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

0:55:21.760 --> 0:55:24.360
<v Speaker 4>You said it the night before the game, I said

0:55:24.360 --> 0:55:27.680
<v Speaker 4>it was gonna be quick game misdirection and getting the

0:55:27.719 --> 0:55:29.840
<v Speaker 4>ball out of his hands real fast, and I'd be damn,

0:55:29.840 --> 0:55:31.920
<v Speaker 4>that's exactly what they did all god damn game long.

0:55:32.200 --> 0:55:36.279
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but that's not a but that's not that's not

0:55:36.320 --> 0:55:41.160
<v Speaker 1>your offense though, No, your offense is, oh, chose to

0:55:41.160 --> 0:55:43.520
<v Speaker 1>push the ball down the field? Yeah, you get Look,

0:55:43.560 --> 0:55:45.279
<v Speaker 1>we want to push the ball down, push the putt

0:55:45.280 --> 0:55:47.440
<v Speaker 1>the ball to chase his hand. But Chase catch a

0:55:47.440 --> 0:55:50.279
<v Speaker 1>lot of deep balls. Team catch a lot of.

0:55:50.280 --> 0:55:52.480
<v Speaker 2>Deep balls, deep ball. Yeah, they do.

0:55:53.040 --> 0:55:56.680
<v Speaker 1>So to get outside of what you schematically normally would do.

0:55:57.120 --> 0:56:00.600
<v Speaker 1>And that's why I hate. Look, if I want you,

0:56:00.680 --> 0:56:04.040
<v Speaker 1>I can neutralize anybody if I'm willing to jump, if

0:56:04.040 --> 0:56:06.759
<v Speaker 1>I'm willing to jump my offensive defense just to keep

0:56:06.800 --> 0:56:12.600
<v Speaker 1>one player at bath. But at what expense? At what expense,

0:56:13.800 --> 0:56:16.080
<v Speaker 1>Joe Burrow is a push the ball down the field?

0:56:17.440 --> 0:56:20.080
<v Speaker 1>You got receivers that can get down the field. Yeah,

0:56:20.120 --> 0:56:21.960
<v Speaker 1>you can get the ball in their hands and occasionally,

0:56:22.000 --> 0:56:23.879
<v Speaker 1>yeah they'll do that. They'll get the ball in T's hand.

0:56:24.000 --> 0:56:26.239
<v Speaker 1>They'll get the ball. More so chasing, because I think

0:56:26.320 --> 0:56:27.960
<v Speaker 1>Chase is a little better run after the catch than

0:56:27.960 --> 0:56:30.759
<v Speaker 1>t is. T is a much bigger receiver. Go over

0:56:30.800 --> 0:56:33.719
<v Speaker 1>the top, he'll high point the ball. Tremendous hand, great

0:56:33.800 --> 0:56:37.799
<v Speaker 1>hand eye coordination. But Sunday, you guys like nah, Man,

0:56:37.800 --> 0:56:39.640
<v Speaker 1>we're gonna do everything we possibly care to try to

0:56:39.640 --> 0:56:42.040
<v Speaker 1>neutralize Mile. So that means a lot of quick store,

0:56:42.080 --> 0:56:43.960
<v Speaker 1>a lot of hitching, a lot of smoke stuff, a

0:56:43.960 --> 0:56:49.720
<v Speaker 1>lot of shallows. Hey, get the ball up. The reason

0:56:49.760 --> 0:56:53.040
<v Speaker 1>why I'm not surprised the one thing I know about

0:56:53.080 --> 0:56:56.600
<v Speaker 1>the Brown family. They ain't spending no excess money. I've

0:56:56.600 --> 0:56:58.480
<v Speaker 1>been damn if you're gonna get much keep they get

0:56:58.480 --> 0:57:00.960
<v Speaker 1>their money and you're not working for them. That is

0:57:01.000 --> 0:57:05.400
<v Speaker 1>how they do business. O Jo, you know them. I've

0:57:05.440 --> 0:57:08.439
<v Speaker 1>been around the league and heard people talk. He ain't

0:57:08.440 --> 0:57:11.160
<v Speaker 1>find no car. How many more years does Zach Taylor

0:57:11.160 --> 0:57:12.040
<v Speaker 1>got on his contract?

0:57:12.280 --> 0:57:12.520
<v Speaker 4>That is?

0:57:12.640 --> 0:57:14.719
<v Speaker 1>That is, how how many more years he gonna be

0:57:14.760 --> 0:57:15.759
<v Speaker 1>coaching in Cincinnati.

0:57:16.520 --> 0:57:20.600
<v Speaker 4>He's gonna be right there, Yeah, absolutely right, absolutely right.

0:57:21.920 --> 0:57:25.360
<v Speaker 1>Gause A man that one and done stuff that that

0:57:25.360 --> 0:57:27.360
<v Speaker 1>that you see other coaches that other owners do.

0:57:28.440 --> 0:57:29.320
<v Speaker 2>Mike Brown ain't doing that.

0:57:29.360 --> 0:57:31.640
<v Speaker 4>Ain't having that. Hell no, he Now you think you

0:57:31.680 --> 0:57:33.720
<v Speaker 4>think you think you can find somebody he still got

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<v Speaker 4>to pay and they not actually in that not it

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<v Speaker 4>ain't happening.

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<v Speaker 1>So Zach Taylor stays, we'll come back to the n

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<v Speaker 1>B A excuse me, We'll come back to football to bed.

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<v Speaker 1>But NBA news first, O Yo, have the floor for

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<v Speaker 1>some spoken words. It's yours O yo.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh man ay chat uh he a, Joe, this is

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<v Speaker 4>this is deep man okay taking time now?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh man man got the manahu a chat.

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<v Speaker 4>I know Auns Ravens didn't make the playoffs. There have

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<v Speaker 4>been some some rude things that have been said to

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<v Speaker 4>the kicker, Tyler Loop, And knowing that I do spoken word,

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<v Speaker 4>I thought I'd come up with something for him to

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<v Speaker 4>encourage him to go forward and to be better because

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<v Speaker 4>that moment in which he missed that kick, that opportunity

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<v Speaker 4>will present itself again. So let me know you're.

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<v Speaker 2>Already You ready, Joe?

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<v Speaker 1>All right?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'm ready. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>This is called the kick, kick.

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<v Speaker 6>The kick.

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<v Speaker 4>They call it one kick, But Tyler Loop felt a

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<v Speaker 4>lifetime in that moment. The whistle was sharp, the stadium

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<v Speaker 4>was loud. A season on your foot, forty four yards wide, right,

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<v Speaker 4>and the world writes a story with no room for

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<v Speaker 4>the hours you spent perfecting your craft. They'll remember the miss,

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<v Speaker 4>not the miles walked, not the pressure on your back,

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<v Speaker 4>not the heart it took to step there. But listen,

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<v Speaker 4>you showed up, lined it up, you believed, and that's

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<v Speaker 4>something no miss can take.

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<v Speaker 2>That is the spoken word by mister o Jo Pachacho. Yeah, yeah, okay, thank.

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<v Speaker 1>You, Okay, why are you laughing?

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<v Speaker 2>Hey, I'm digging the hat though the head and eye.

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<v Speaker 2>No messing with the hair.

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<v Speaker 4>I appreciate that, Joe. I appreciate the head. Yeah, I

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<v Speaker 4>appreciate that, Joe. It it took time. It took time

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<v Speaker 4>for me to write that.

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<v Speaker 2>Now it's gonna be really very thoughtful.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, it took it. Yeah, I listen, I damn, this

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<v Speaker 4>spent all day.

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<v Speaker 2>Joe said.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh Joe started poetic injustice.

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<v Speaker 4>A little keep your hair black as that was you,

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<v Speaker 4>my boy, lou.

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<v Speaker 1>Say that, man, poet if you jumped he.

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<v Speaker 4>Hey, listen, that was a serious moment. Man, y'all laughing

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<v Speaker 4>at me?

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<v Speaker 1>Man?

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<v Speaker 2>Now, Hey, this is space. This is a safe space. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 6>Every time, every time I be vulnerable, y'all, get y'all.

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<v Speaker 2>We judge you. Not at least you be judged, right.

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<v Speaker 4>Right, whatever that means?

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<v Speaker 2>Hey, we ain't laughing. Ask you were laughing? Witch?

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<v Speaker 1>You laugh?

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<v Speaker 2>You got messed up? Man? Oh lord that birthday?

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<v Speaker 4>Hey? Hold on, hey, y'all, yeah that's messed up.

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<v Speaker 1>Man.

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<v Speaker 4>Hey, I got a joke. I got a joke. Joe,

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<v Speaker 4>You ready, joke?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'm ready, I'm ready.

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<v Speaker 4>Come on, Hey, Chack, what do you call fake spaghetti?

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<v Speaker 2>Fakes spaghetti?

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<v Speaker 1>Real?

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<v Speaker 2>You got anything, Joe?

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<v Speaker 5>I'll be feeling like I'll be knowing them, but they

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<v Speaker 5>be outfield left someone, this dude, this dude, because fakes

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<v Speaker 5>spaghet hold on with Joe fake spaghetti. Uh no, I

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<v Speaker 5>ain't got nothing.

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<v Speaker 2>What what you got? Joe?

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<v Speaker 4>Fake spaghetti is called an impossible.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh lord? He burstus bad here?

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<v Speaker 1>Hm?

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<v Speaker 2>May I just do it? Bro? Hey