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Speaker 1: I don't know what you guys called end of your season,

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Speaker 1: Cleveland Browns. They have fired Kevin Stefanski after six years.

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Speaker 1: He's a two time Coach of the Year, and he

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Speaker 1: Despite those accolades, Stefanski exit with a forty five and

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Speaker 1: This is the list of passers in no particular order,

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Speaker 1: It was reported today and I don't know Pete Prisco

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Speaker 1: never wanted DeShawn Watson O Joe if. I don't know

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Speaker 1: He didn't throw or or he turned the ball over

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Speaker 1: O Joe, you need everybody baught in.

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Speaker 2: Can't nobody?

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Speaker 1: There can't be any Luke Warn feeling well like yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'll coach. No, we gotta be all bought in. Now,

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Speaker 1: that's what Pete PRIs gonna say. We don't know that

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Speaker 1: worked out so far, Ojo, it kind of doomed franchise

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Speaker 4: Joe, Yes, well, unc well, listen to you you ain't,

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Speaker 4: Joe and Unk. I mean, this didn't doom the franchise.

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Speaker 4: The franchise has been doomed before that situation even happened.

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Speaker 4: They've been through thirty seven thousand quarterbacks. They haven't been

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Speaker 4: able to find the one. Now, obviously, if Josh Allen,

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Speaker 4: seen on tape. Listen, when your draft regards to what round,

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Speaker 4: Sometime this year's draft, we're talking about some of the

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Speaker 4: aren't transcending talents. They're not generational talents, but they have

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Speaker 4: transcending talent, which I really haven't seen. I'm talking about

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Speaker 4: There is not that. That's there's not that coming into

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Speaker 4: those college quarterbacks ain't no Lamar Jackson's ain't no Josh Allens,

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Speaker 4: ain't no Joe Burrows, ain't no Patrick Mahomes. Now that

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Speaker 4: there's a chance they could pan out to be that,

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Speaker 4: but teams don't have the patience for that will happen, or.

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Speaker 1: The coaching because if you go back and think about it, Oh,

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Speaker 1: Joe Josh Allens Rooki Yell with a turnover machine, it

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Speaker 2: That we see now.

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Speaker 1: And the guy that's that's taken over has even taken

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Speaker 1: So that's the thing they're gonna be some rough spots,

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Speaker 4: And Joe, that's another thing, Joe and uncle. If you're

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Speaker 4: not built, what you aren't gonna be. The Raiders aren't built.

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Speaker 4: And whoever they pick, they're going to get a quarterback. Joe,

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Speaker 4: they're going to get a quarterback. Do you trust Mark

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Speaker 4: gonna happen. That shit can be demoralizing, Joe. So you, Joe,

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Speaker 4: you go into the wrong situation like that and it

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Speaker 4: ain't got no helper, and you ain't got no help

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Speaker 2: I can imagine. I can imagine.

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Speaker 4: You come from you come from a winning program, when

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Speaker 4: and it's a different ball game, Joe. It's the best

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Speaker 4: the team you're on is just not good. The players

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Speaker 2: What'd you think of Joe? Man, we talked what team

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Speaker 2: you'all talking about right.

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Speaker 1: Now here, you're talking about quarterback top five top quarterbacks

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Speaker 1: going to a bad situation because that's I know, I

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Speaker 2: About the best players.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I know, to the worst teams and help bim,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, and.

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Speaker 1: You're right, Cleveland, you need wide receivers. You got a

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Speaker 4: On Joe, hold on? What about what about the Bear?

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Speaker 1: The offensive line is just not good enough right now. Man,

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Speaker 1: to find John Gruden. The NFL pay. Yeah, and he's

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Speaker 1: He's like, fire him. He wouldn't hire some more of

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Speaker 2: That by show you didn't catch you see? I called

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Speaker 1: That's not how his son is. His son is like, Okay,

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Speaker 1: I'll toe the company line. I'll do everything. Jerry has

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Speaker 1: What the hell I say. I pay for this team.

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Speaker 1: I'm not gonna let you tell me what to do.

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Speaker 1: A boss me around. But o, Joe, here's what Jimmy

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Speaker 2: And I want you to hear this.

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Speaker 1: Okay. First of all, ownership takes full responsibility for where

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Speaker 2: To win eight games in two years is horrible.

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Speaker 1: It's totally unacceptable, okay, and it's not gonna continue, okay.

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Speaker 1: And I want the fans to know we are as

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Speaker 4: Hey, is one thing, hey, listen, ownership, ownership, Hey, unk,

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Speaker 4: This is the funny thing about it. Ownership takes full responsibility.

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Speaker 4: The hey owners can't get fired. Hey, Joe, I know, Hey,

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Speaker 1: Four hundred probably four hundred and four twenty five coming,

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Speaker 4: What that means?

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Speaker 2: The TV contract every NFL's teams cut?

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Speaker 4: Oh yeah, hey, so wait, oh four hundred and twenty

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Speaker 4: five minutes? Yes, team, how much we getting out of that?

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Speaker 2: We'll own no team? And oh show Now that's the

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Speaker 1: We ain't say nothing about you selling tickets. We ain't

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Speaker 4: Yeah, oh yeah, it added up. You ain't got to

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Speaker 4: I just don't like to talk about.

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Speaker 2: It, okay.

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Speaker 1: Brown's general manager Andrew Barry said today that he was

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Speaker 1: into that whip. Oh Joe, you see what he's saying. Yes,

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Speaker 4: And then I'm it's like your grandma used to.

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Speaker 2: Put that plate down for you. I won't that. Okay,

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Speaker 4: But but obviously obviously Andrew Berry, they've made mistakes when

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Speaker 1: Still got a job picking and I don't advocate anybody.

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Speaker 1: I don't advocate anybody getting fired on YO. I'm just

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Speaker 1: saying you found, okay Stefanski. And I'm not saying Stefanski

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Speaker 4: And and that's why they feel comfortable taking responsibility for

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Speaker 2: Joe. So let me get this right.

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Speaker 1: it was zip recruiter. You know they you know, you

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Speaker 2: I heard you looking for work.

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Speaker 4: Where you hear that from? I mean, you know you

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Speaker 4: When coaches get fired in general, I mean it all

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Speaker 4: comes down to one common denominator. Well, they don't have

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Speaker 4: all the coaches that have that have had long sustaining careers.

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Speaker 1: I've gone as far as I can go with him.

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Speaker 1: We need to do something. Now, you tell me what

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Speaker 1: know what, We're gonna trade our number one pick, give

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Speaker 2: O Joe?

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Speaker 4: Well, not not exactly, but obviously wait hold on, this

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Speaker 4: goddamn Detroit, right, and you put them on a team

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Speaker 4: that is already ready. I'm not comparing it to Tom

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Speaker 4: brady situation and him leaving the Patriots of going to

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Speaker 4: goddamn Tampa Bay, but goddamn is damn show close. Yes,

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Speaker 4: LA What the fuck happened?

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Speaker 1: Ojo' difference between Tampa Bay and and and Stafford. Tampa

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Speaker 1: like you dropped man. Remember John Elways said Peyton Manny

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Speaker 4: Yeah, hey, super a super Bowl ready.

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Speaker 1: They was already built. They was already traded a number

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Speaker 4: Yeah, but uncle Joe, the pieces was already in place.

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Speaker 4: The piece was already in place. Once he got to

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Speaker 6: They was missing that sentiment.

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Speaker 1: But guess what they did and they allowed him to

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Speaker 4: Here, ab come on.

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Speaker 2: Yes, and that was ice, that was icing on the cake.

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Speaker 1: So I fake the finger. Andrew Berry picked those players.

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Speaker 1: Now he done a great I mean Miles Garrett hit

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Speaker 2: I love you love it.

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Speaker 1: I don't know did he pick Baker Mayfield? Was he

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Speaker 6: Who's responsible for the Denzel Ward too?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Denzel was probably because he came after. He came after.

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Speaker 4: It was?

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Speaker 5: Man o, Joe, the Browns can make it. They can

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Speaker 5: make a big leap next year, man, silent defense. You

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Speaker 6: They need by three pieces, Joe.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, if you believe they got a quarter Okay, if

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00:21:58,600 --> 00:22:01,920
Speaker 1: you believe their quarterback is on the they need offensive line.

435
00:22:02,119 --> 00:22:05,080
Speaker 1: That left tackle did you see that left tackle? Cam Robinson?

436
00:22:06,280 --> 00:22:13,359
Speaker 1: I can't walk better than him. John Dorsey selected Baker. Uh,

437
00:22:13,920 --> 00:22:17,439
Speaker 1: that's that's embarrassing. I mean to watch some of these guys.

438
00:22:17,440 --> 00:22:20,280
Speaker 1: That's embarrassing that these guys are starting. I watched for

439
00:22:20,440 --> 00:22:23,960
Speaker 1: uh uh for Leyley. Oh Joe, that's yeah, Oh Joe.

440
00:22:24,080 --> 00:22:26,840
Speaker 1: He did he did his hand like this here, and

441
00:22:27,000 --> 00:22:30,160
Speaker 1: both guys ran by. I said, you must be thank

442
00:22:30,240 --> 00:22:33,200
Speaker 1: you school patrol. And you're gonna start some five year olds.

443
00:22:33,960 --> 00:22:36,520
Speaker 1: Oh Joe, how you hold out both heads if both

444
00:22:36,560 --> 00:22:43,960
Speaker 1: guys go by you? Hey, hey, they got that boy

445
00:22:43,960 --> 00:22:45,240
Speaker 1: back that running through in life?

446
00:22:45,280 --> 00:22:45,840
Speaker 2: Man.

447
00:22:47,119 --> 00:22:49,520
Speaker 1: Lamar like, oh, y'all protected on this here? They ain't

448
00:22:49,520 --> 00:22:53,960
Speaker 1: bring it before we got five protectors. I'm good. Labar said, damn.

449
00:22:56,320 --> 00:22:59,120
Speaker 2: Were you? And how did you get back here this fast?

450
00:23:01,600 --> 00:23:03,119
Speaker 4: That happened? That happened a few times.

451
00:23:03,760 --> 00:23:05,199
Speaker 1: You look at what they did this year that had

452
00:23:05,240 --> 00:23:07,760
Speaker 1: a Mason Graham. He started to come on. Uh uh

453
00:23:08,640 --> 00:23:11,560
Speaker 1: Swettinger is that his name? He looked like he's gonna

454
00:23:11,560 --> 00:23:16,160
Speaker 1: be defensive Rookie of the year. Junkins solid, really good

455
00:23:16,480 --> 00:23:18,920
Speaker 1: half Fanning, Yes, he got pro bo potential.

456
00:23:20,040 --> 00:23:23,879
Speaker 2: Uh. Dylan Gabriel, I don't know, I don't know. I

457
00:23:23,920 --> 00:23:24,320
Speaker 2: don't know.

458
00:23:25,480 --> 00:23:30,359
Speaker 1: Samson I like Judkins better than I like Samson and

459
00:23:30,359 --> 00:23:33,520
Speaker 1: then your door. All I know is that he win.

460
00:23:34,160 --> 00:23:36,280
Speaker 1: He he You can say what you well, the defense

461
00:23:36,320 --> 00:23:39,439
Speaker 1: scored two touchdowns. Those two touchdowns. If he doesn't get

462
00:23:39,480 --> 00:23:41,160
Speaker 1: them down there in field gold range, do they win

463
00:23:41,200 --> 00:23:41,560
Speaker 1: the game?

464
00:23:42,920 --> 00:23:43,280
Speaker 2: Mm hmm.

465
00:23:44,880 --> 00:23:47,199
Speaker 1: Having a critical drive right there too. But see all

466
00:23:47,240 --> 00:23:49,720
Speaker 1: of you do it does something getting them in feel

467
00:23:49,800 --> 00:23:52,760
Speaker 1: gold range. He ain't do nothing. Anybody else didn't. He

468
00:23:52,760 --> 00:23:53,920
Speaker 1: set them to ruining field goal.

469
00:23:55,240 --> 00:23:58,359
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, you know how that go the gold

470
00:23:58,359 --> 00:24:00,639
Speaker 4: post move depending on who you're talking about and who

471
00:24:00,720 --> 00:24:01,040
Speaker 4: it is.

472
00:24:01,400 --> 00:24:04,800
Speaker 1: But that's that's okay, that's okay, that's Okayshaun has to

473
00:24:04,800 --> 00:24:07,000
Speaker 1: come back, Joe. He's on the book for about fifty

474
00:24:07,040 --> 00:24:09,920
Speaker 1: million guaranteed, so he has to come back for another year,

475
00:24:10,160 --> 00:24:14,360
Speaker 1: ain't nobody. I mean, you could cut him, but nobody,

476
00:24:14,359 --> 00:24:16,320
Speaker 1: you're not gonna You're not gonna be able to trade it.

477
00:24:17,680 --> 00:24:19,960
Speaker 1: So you're gonnaet him infention. You stuck with him for

478
00:24:19,960 --> 00:24:22,520
Speaker 1: it least at least one more year. It go. This

479
00:24:22,600 --> 00:24:24,360
Speaker 1: is the worst trade in NFL history.

480
00:24:24,480 --> 00:24:24,800
Speaker 2: It is.

481
00:24:24,920 --> 00:24:27,439
Speaker 1: It is what it is. It is the worst trade

482
00:24:28,080 --> 00:24:31,719
Speaker 1: because of the compensation that you gave up and the

483
00:24:31,720 --> 00:24:33,919
Speaker 1: money that you paid him. He was the first to

484
00:24:33,920 --> 00:24:36,400
Speaker 1: have a fully gain Oh yo. And the problem is, Joe,

485
00:24:36,400 --> 00:24:39,640
Speaker 1: what made Cleveland it looks worse than what it was.

486
00:24:40,359 --> 00:24:44,439
Speaker 1: He had not even started on the new contract, the

487
00:24:44,520 --> 00:24:45,719
Speaker 1: extension that he signed.

488
00:24:46,480 --> 00:24:48,320
Speaker 2: They gave him money on top of that.

489
00:24:48,800 --> 00:24:51,440
Speaker 1: Oh Joe, he was about to start, and they say, no,

490
00:24:51,680 --> 00:24:56,000
Speaker 1: guess what, we're gonna even give you more and to

491
00:24:56,040 --> 00:24:57,919
Speaker 1: make it worse, We're gonna put it to make it

492
00:24:57,960 --> 00:25:01,080
Speaker 1: better for you, worse for them. They fully guaranteed it,

493
00:25:01,640 --> 00:25:04,040
Speaker 1: two hundred and thirty million, fully guaranteed.

494
00:25:06,160 --> 00:25:06,919
Speaker 2: They expect this.

495
00:25:08,440 --> 00:25:11,080
Speaker 4: Absolutely, not absolutely, that's what That's why they did it.

496
00:25:11,440 --> 00:25:12,840
Speaker 2: That was a fool in Houston.

497
00:25:13,720 --> 00:25:16,480
Speaker 4: Hey, Joe, he was a fool in Houston, and he

498
00:25:16,560 --> 00:25:19,520
Speaker 4: had he didn't have no superstars joke he had he

499
00:25:19,600 --> 00:25:23,679
Speaker 4: had Yeah, yeah, I think he had d Hop for

500
00:25:23,680 --> 00:25:26,360
Speaker 4: one year before the hop with the Arizona I'm not mistaken.

501
00:25:27,200 --> 00:25:29,200
Speaker 4: One year and the year when d Hop wasn't there,

502
00:25:29,320 --> 00:25:30,520
Speaker 4: he still went crazy.

503
00:25:30,600 --> 00:25:32,800
Speaker 2: Joe. Yeah, yeah, still went crazy.

504
00:25:32,840 --> 00:25:35,240
Speaker 4: So they understood what they were getting. And because you

505
00:25:35,359 --> 00:25:38,600
Speaker 4: understand that a premium passer like that at that age,

506
00:25:38,640 --> 00:25:41,640
Speaker 4: that was able to do that without prefeer talent around him.

507
00:25:41,960 --> 00:25:44,760
Speaker 4: Oh man, we got to have this because we haven't

508
00:25:44,800 --> 00:25:47,920
Speaker 4: had we haven't had anything like that. It's so long

509
00:25:48,280 --> 00:25:49,360
Speaker 4: since Auto Graham.

510
00:25:49,960 --> 00:25:53,080
Speaker 5: But Uncle Ojo, he ain't played him. It's been a minute.

511
00:25:53,119 --> 00:25:56,320
Speaker 5: Well he got hurt. Well, remember Joe, he got suspended.

512
00:25:56,320 --> 00:25:59,320
Speaker 5: He missed the first eleven games. Think about it now,

513
00:25:59,520 --> 00:26:01,280
Speaker 5: the previous year he didn't play.

514
00:26:01,920 --> 00:26:02,440
Speaker 2: It's hard.

515
00:26:02,480 --> 00:26:05,040
Speaker 1: I don't care how talent you are when you he

516
00:26:05,080 --> 00:26:08,239
Speaker 1: missed the whole year. And then basically he missed two

517
00:26:08,320 --> 00:26:10,640
Speaker 1: years because he missed the first eleven games. O't Joe.

518
00:26:11,240 --> 00:26:14,880
Speaker 1: Then he comes back, plays five games. He doesn't look good,

519
00:26:15,000 --> 00:26:17,160
Speaker 1: But you say, you know what, you get him in Ota,

520
00:26:17,480 --> 00:26:19,479
Speaker 1: We get him in an offseason condition. We get him

521
00:26:19,480 --> 00:26:22,840
Speaker 1: in our system. We'll be better. He gets hurt, He

522
00:26:22,920 --> 00:26:26,200
Speaker 1: missed the rest all that season. He comes back, guess what,

523
00:26:26,640 --> 00:26:30,119
Speaker 1: he gets hurt. Missed all that. So for the most part,

524
00:26:30,160 --> 00:26:34,520
Speaker 1: he might have played fifteen, sixteen, seventeen games in about

525
00:26:34,560 --> 00:26:36,119
Speaker 1: four years.

526
00:26:36,520 --> 00:26:41,199
Speaker 4: Yeah, he hadn't had the opportunity to get back to

527
00:26:41,320 --> 00:26:43,080
Speaker 4: himself if he wanted to.

528
00:26:43,760 --> 00:26:46,520
Speaker 6: So I mean, maybe maybe this is his year, Joe,

529
00:26:46,640 --> 00:26:48,280
Speaker 6: And maybe this is his year.

530
00:26:48,760 --> 00:26:50,760
Speaker 4: He had he has he's at ample time to get

531
00:26:50,800 --> 00:26:54,520
Speaker 4: himself back healthy, to get back to some form of

532
00:26:54,560 --> 00:26:57,840
Speaker 4: what he used to be. And maybe if if they

533
00:26:57,880 --> 00:27:04,120
Speaker 4: do their due diligence and bring talent, talent, two pieces.

534
00:27:04,119 --> 00:27:06,600
Speaker 4: If he's gonna be your starting quarterback because you got

535
00:27:06,600 --> 00:27:08,879
Speaker 4: fifty million on the books on him and you have

536
00:27:09,040 --> 00:27:11,240
Speaker 4: no choice but to ride with him, you know what

537
00:27:11,280 --> 00:27:11,720
Speaker 4: to do.

538
00:27:11,800 --> 00:27:15,160
Speaker 2: When you stuck well to do You can cut him.

539
00:27:16,560 --> 00:27:18,960
Speaker 1: I mean, you can release him, but you're still on

540
00:27:19,200 --> 00:27:20,800
Speaker 1: fifty million guaranteed, O Joe.

541
00:27:21,760 --> 00:27:23,000
Speaker 6: So you know they're not gonna do that.

542
00:27:23,240 --> 00:27:24,400
Speaker 4: You know they're not gonna do that.

543
00:27:25,800 --> 00:27:26,240
Speaker 2: I don't know.

544
00:27:29,119 --> 00:27:31,440
Speaker 4: I don't know, Joe. Honestly, I don't know either.

545
00:27:32,359 --> 00:27:37,000
Speaker 1: I don't It's it's a very tough situation. We keep

546
00:27:37,040 --> 00:27:39,159
Speaker 1: saying pieces. I don't give a damn what kind of

547
00:27:39,160 --> 00:27:41,600
Speaker 1: pieces you get. This ain't no just ain't no puzzle.

548
00:27:43,359 --> 00:27:45,600
Speaker 1: It ain't really that hard. If you don't get that

549
00:27:45,720 --> 00:27:49,320
Speaker 1: foundational piece, which is the quarterback, you cannot build a

550
00:27:49,440 --> 00:27:52,840
Speaker 1: team that's quality enough to get to where you want

551
00:27:52,840 --> 00:27:55,480
Speaker 1: to go. It used to be you could, Ojoe. I

552
00:27:55,600 --> 00:27:59,920
Speaker 1: bring my running game. I bring my defense, because defense travels,

553
00:28:00,119 --> 00:28:05,200
Speaker 1: a run game travels. They change the rules your quarterback

554
00:28:05,320 --> 00:28:08,639
Speaker 1: needs to travel and he needs to be able to

555
00:28:08,680 --> 00:28:12,960
Speaker 1: make plays under the rest. That's the way it's set up. Now,

556
00:28:13,160 --> 00:28:15,080
Speaker 1: go back and look at the quarterbacks that's been winning

557
00:28:15,119 --> 00:28:18,960
Speaker 1: the Super Bowls. Yeah, they got great piece around them,

558
00:28:19,040 --> 00:28:23,920
Speaker 1: but that guy's had to make plays, and right now

559
00:28:24,000 --> 00:28:26,159
Speaker 1: Cleveland doesn't have that and they haven't had it in

560
00:28:26,160 --> 00:28:31,960
Speaker 1: a long time. Seems to look it seems to me,

561
00:28:32,480 --> 00:28:34,560
Speaker 1: at least at worst case, you could say, you know you,

562
00:28:34,600 --> 00:28:36,720
Speaker 1: maybe you could have said that, hey, look, we like

563
00:28:36,760 --> 00:28:42,920
Speaker 1: what we saw from Sanders. But they're noncommental. They say,

564
00:28:42,920 --> 00:28:45,640
Speaker 1: we don't know if it's internal external, which means, hey,

565
00:28:45,840 --> 00:28:47,800
Speaker 1: we don't know if the guy that's gonna lead us

566
00:28:47,960 --> 00:28:49,640
Speaker 1: is on the roster or we're gonna have.

567
00:28:49,560 --> 00:28:53,960
Speaker 2: To bring him in rights. They keeping everybody on their

568
00:28:54,000 --> 00:28:54,680
Speaker 2: toes over there.

569
00:28:55,440 --> 00:28:57,440
Speaker 6: They definitely a't gonna get no answer right now.

570
00:28:57,840 --> 00:28:58,600
Speaker 4: God damn it.

571
00:28:58,800 --> 00:29:00,480
Speaker 2: Hey, hey, I'm I'm like you.

572
00:29:01,320 --> 00:29:03,760
Speaker 5: If they don't do nothing about that line, offensive line,

573
00:29:04,360 --> 00:29:05,280
Speaker 5: damn who they get back that.

574
00:29:07,040 --> 00:29:08,120
Speaker 2: They ain't gonna make a difference.

575
00:29:08,120 --> 00:29:10,440
Speaker 1: Well, they better get no allows back there to play

576
00:29:10,520 --> 00:29:12,720
Speaker 1: quarterback so he can take our running because they can't

577
00:29:12,720 --> 00:29:16,400
Speaker 1: catch it. But other than that, it ain't gonna work.

578
00:29:16,440 --> 00:29:19,040
Speaker 1: They need offensive line. They need offensive line. They need

579
00:29:19,080 --> 00:29:19,840
Speaker 1: some receivers.

580
00:29:20,280 --> 00:29:21,400
Speaker 2: Uh.

581
00:29:21,600 --> 00:29:23,600
Speaker 1: I like Isaiah Bob, but they need they need a

582
00:29:23,680 --> 00:29:26,719
Speaker 1: number one. They gotta go get a receiver. I like Fanning.

583
00:29:27,640 --> 00:29:29,600
Speaker 1: I'm not saying you gotta try to find another fan

584
00:29:29,760 --> 00:29:31,880
Speaker 1: but if you can have two solid tight ends, that

585
00:29:32,000 --> 00:29:37,680
Speaker 1: can do some damage. But I think offensively you're good. Hey,

586
00:29:37,720 --> 00:29:39,640
Speaker 1: I'll try to find another piece to go opposite of.

587
00:29:40,840 --> 00:29:42,880
Speaker 1: Maybe you go out and get another corner, the pair

588
00:29:42,920 --> 00:29:47,520
Speaker 1: of opposite of a Denzel. I like Delpit obviously, Miles

589
00:29:47,520 --> 00:29:51,760
Speaker 1: Garrett is your lynch pin, your centerpiece, and he's gonna

590
00:29:51,800 --> 00:29:56,080
Speaker 1: make everybody. Devin Bush played really well for him this year. Yeah,

591
00:29:56,880 --> 00:30:04,360
Speaker 1: but it's Cleveland's just Uh. The Raiders have fired their

592
00:30:04,400 --> 00:30:07,280
Speaker 1: head coach Pete Carroll after just one season. Carol said

593
00:30:07,280 --> 00:30:08,960
Speaker 1: the Raiders would win a bunch of games in his

594
00:30:09,040 --> 00:30:12,920
Speaker 1: first season. Instead, the Raiders finished three and fourteen, had

595
00:30:12,920 --> 00:30:15,160
Speaker 1: a check but they got that number one pick. The

596
00:30:15,240 --> 00:30:18,240
Speaker 1: Raiders were at the bottom of almost every category offensively

597
00:30:18,320 --> 00:30:22,160
Speaker 1: and defense. The unit finished thirty first and pressures rap

598
00:30:22,480 --> 00:30:26,040
Speaker 1: twenty seventh in sacked. Despite Max Crosby having ten this season,

599
00:30:26,440 --> 00:30:30,440
Speaker 1: the Raiders are also looking to hire a financial advisor.

600
00:30:30,680 --> 00:30:32,080
Speaker 2: That's what he should o. Joe.

601
00:30:32,200 --> 00:30:35,480
Speaker 1: Think about all the coaches and they, oh, Antonio Piers

602
00:30:35,560 --> 00:30:39,800
Speaker 1: eight million, Josh McDaniel ten million, John Gruden ten million,

603
00:30:40,000 --> 00:30:44,080
Speaker 1: Pete Carroll sixteen million, Chip Kelly six million, and you

604
00:30:44,120 --> 00:30:47,400
Speaker 1: got to break another head coach in and his staff

605
00:30:47,800 --> 00:30:49,240
Speaker 1: to pay them.

606
00:30:49,400 --> 00:30:51,239
Speaker 4: Yeah, but listen, if they need to hire if they

607
00:30:51,280 --> 00:30:53,280
Speaker 4: need to hire a Joe, if they need to hire

608
00:30:53,280 --> 00:30:55,680
Speaker 4: a financial advisor, yeah, right where they need to come.

609
00:30:56,360 --> 00:31:00,680
Speaker 4: I'm right, I'm exactly who they need to call. Did Hey, listen,

610
00:31:00,680 --> 00:31:02,200
Speaker 4: if there's anything I can get them out of that,

611
00:31:02,400 --> 00:31:03,760
Speaker 4: don't worry about that. I can get them out of that.

612
00:31:03,920 --> 00:31:08,320
Speaker 4: If it's anybody that knows and that's financially conscious and

613
00:31:08,560 --> 00:31:11,560
Speaker 4: very savvy when it comes to spending and making sure

614
00:31:12,280 --> 00:31:12,600
Speaker 4: it's me.

615
00:31:12,880 --> 00:31:14,640
Speaker 2: It's too late. Oo, it's me.

616
00:31:15,480 --> 00:31:17,480
Speaker 4: Well listen, it might be too late, but I will

617
00:31:17,520 --> 00:31:19,960
Speaker 4: make sure they won't make any more goddamn mistakes and

618
00:31:20,160 --> 00:31:24,560
Speaker 4: overspending from this point on. Now, bring bring me in

619
00:31:24,560 --> 00:31:24,960
Speaker 4: the building.

620
00:31:25,040 --> 00:31:27,360
Speaker 1: What here's the thing. When you fire a coach, you

621
00:31:27,400 --> 00:31:28,920
Speaker 1: ain't got no choice. You on the hook for the

622
00:31:28,920 --> 00:31:30,040
Speaker 1: book for his money.

623
00:31:31,120 --> 00:31:32,640
Speaker 4: Well, listen, we gonna we're gonna be We're gonna be

624
00:31:32,680 --> 00:31:35,040
Speaker 4: a lot more cautious on who we hire and making

625
00:31:35,080 --> 00:31:36,800
Speaker 4: sure we allow that contract.

626
00:31:37,080 --> 00:31:38,760
Speaker 1: You could have hired Bill Parker, you could have hired

627
00:31:38,840 --> 00:31:42,000
Speaker 1: Bill Belichick your quarter that quarterback situation. You can be

628
00:31:42,080 --> 00:31:45,680
Speaker 1: right here, yeah, right, hey.

629
00:31:45,720 --> 00:31:47,800
Speaker 5: So if you're the Raiders, though, do you get one

630
00:31:47,800 --> 00:31:51,920
Speaker 5: of these kids coming out the draft.

631
00:31:51,000 --> 00:31:52,880
Speaker 1: Because I don't believe, I don't, Oh Joe, at some

632
00:31:53,000 --> 00:31:55,000
Speaker 1: point in time, you gotta stop trying to get stuff.

633
00:31:55,120 --> 00:31:57,600
Speaker 1: You gotta stop trying to like we used to call

634
00:31:57,640 --> 00:32:00,440
Speaker 1: it second hand. You don't have oh, you know what to

635
00:32:00,480 --> 00:32:02,680
Speaker 1: talk about second second hand? Man. It was a long

636
00:32:02,720 --> 00:32:05,160
Speaker 1: time before I had a new car by something myself

637
00:32:05,480 --> 00:32:08,440
Speaker 1: that somebody had to pass gas in it. I want

638
00:32:08,440 --> 00:32:11,640
Speaker 1: to be the person but to pass gas in this car. So,

639
00:32:12,080 --> 00:32:14,440
Speaker 1: oh Joe, you know you're getting second hand stuff. I

640
00:32:14,480 --> 00:32:16,560
Speaker 1: think that needs to move on from that second hand

641
00:32:16,720 --> 00:32:18,200
Speaker 1: and get a quarterback of their own.

642
00:32:19,840 --> 00:32:21,680
Speaker 4: And where you're gonna come from.

643
00:32:21,800 --> 00:32:25,440
Speaker 1: Look the kid from Indiana, Indiana or the kid from

644
00:32:25,440 --> 00:32:27,520
Speaker 1: the Organ they're coming out.

645
00:32:27,720 --> 00:32:34,760
Speaker 2: It's too much money, not too they ain't gonna get it.

646
00:32:34,760 --> 00:32:38,120
Speaker 6: As old joke, No, you put them, you put them

647
00:32:38,160 --> 00:32:40,760
Speaker 6: young bulls in that environment. Have you seen August team?

648
00:32:41,280 --> 00:32:45,400
Speaker 6: Have you seen Indiana? And what you think gonna happen

649
00:32:45,440 --> 00:32:47,320
Speaker 6: to either one of them? If they go to the Raiders?

650
00:32:48,720 --> 00:32:50,200
Speaker 6: What is gonna what they're gonna look like?

651
00:32:51,080 --> 00:32:51,720
Speaker 4: You already know.

652
00:32:52,040 --> 00:32:54,760
Speaker 1: Look, they're they're a long ways away. They need they

653
00:32:54,800 --> 00:32:59,640
Speaker 1: need offensive line, they need defensive players. Look, you gotta

654
00:32:59,680 --> 00:33:03,560
Speaker 1: trade Metrosby. He's the only thing, that's the only thing

655
00:33:03,600 --> 00:33:06,400
Speaker 1: of value that you have that can bring you back

656
00:33:06,480 --> 00:33:10,760
Speaker 1: draft compensation to help you build up. That's the only

657
00:33:10,760 --> 00:33:12,240
Speaker 1: thing of value you got. That's the only thing that

658
00:33:12,280 --> 00:33:16,160
Speaker 1: you can trade. So you're gonna have to trade him

659
00:33:16,720 --> 00:33:19,120
Speaker 1: and and and and get the first and the third

660
00:33:19,120 --> 00:33:22,960
Speaker 1: and the second next year, right, and you got a

661
00:33:23,000 --> 00:33:23,720
Speaker 1: first this year.

662
00:33:23,800 --> 00:33:26,240
Speaker 2: But oh you gotta hit. You gotta hit.

663
00:33:29,760 --> 00:33:33,160
Speaker 4: And that's hard is making sure. It's like going to

664
00:33:33,200 --> 00:33:38,800
Speaker 4: the goddamn casino playing rolette, you know, let you never know.

665
00:33:40,160 --> 00:33:41,880
Speaker 1: Yes, the same thing though, Yeah, I get you. Yeah,

666
00:33:41,920 --> 00:33:44,840
Speaker 1: you spend the ball and you spend the wheel, yeah.

667
00:33:46,440 --> 00:33:51,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, and the numbers yeah, man, come on, man, why

668
00:33:51,480 --> 00:33:52,360
Speaker 4: y'all always corrected?

669
00:33:54,400 --> 00:33:57,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, look you got it. You got Rock Bowers. He's

670
00:33:57,480 --> 00:33:59,239
Speaker 1: one of your top tight ends in the league. So

671
00:33:59,280 --> 00:34:01,920
Speaker 1: you gotta pass catching tight end. You need a receiver.

672
00:34:02,360 --> 00:34:04,120
Speaker 1: You you went into the draft. You got a back

673
00:34:04,200 --> 00:34:06,320
Speaker 1: last year. You need somebody to block for the back.

674
00:34:06,880 --> 00:34:10,239
Speaker 1: You need somebody to block for your quarterback. You got

675
00:34:10,360 --> 00:34:17,040
Speaker 1: you got h Christy, Max troxcuse me, Crosby that he

676
00:34:17,080 --> 00:34:20,280
Speaker 1: can he can. You're not trading. You're not trading brock Bowers.

677
00:34:20,400 --> 00:34:22,160
Speaker 1: The reason why they mentioned him because you're.

678
00:34:22,000 --> 00:34:22,799
Speaker 2: Not trading him.

679
00:34:23,080 --> 00:34:29,279
Speaker 1: No, No, Max Cross can trade and get that can

680
00:34:29,360 --> 00:34:31,959
Speaker 1: help you build this thing back up, because that's really

681
00:34:31,960 --> 00:34:34,280
Speaker 1: the only thing that you have a valuable, that value

682
00:34:34,520 --> 00:34:36,000
Speaker 1: that you're willing to move.

683
00:34:36,880 --> 00:34:37,279
Speaker 2: Mm hmm.

684
00:34:41,000 --> 00:34:43,200
Speaker 1: You gotta start with that foundational piece. Ochoe at the

685
00:34:43,280 --> 00:34:46,640
Speaker 1: end of the day. Yeah, I mean, if you got

686
00:34:46,680 --> 00:34:48,239
Speaker 1: a house, o Joe, what you're gonna get? What's the

687
00:34:48,239 --> 00:34:49,720
Speaker 1: first thing you go buy?

688
00:34:50,080 --> 00:34:53,920
Speaker 2: What? What can't you live without?

689
00:34:54,200 --> 00:34:55,480
Speaker 4: I'm hoping you say furniture.

690
00:34:56,560 --> 00:34:57,800
Speaker 2: I would give you.

691
00:34:57,360 --> 00:35:01,160
Speaker 1: I give you five hundred dollars and you got to

692
00:35:01,160 --> 00:35:14,319
Speaker 1: get one piece, damn in the house. TV man, that's accessory.

693
00:35:15,080 --> 00:35:17,200
Speaker 1: Hey not when you got a phone, I can do that.

694
00:35:17,200 --> 00:35:18,840
Speaker 1: I can watch all that stuff with my phone.

695
00:35:19,840 --> 00:35:22,719
Speaker 4: I mean, okay, okay, Damn That's a good one, because

696
00:35:22,920 --> 00:35:24,600
Speaker 4: the first thing I think about by getting the house

697
00:35:24,880 --> 00:35:26,799
Speaker 4: is I need some furniure I got to have somewhere

698
00:35:26,840 --> 00:35:29,160
Speaker 4: the lady lay in my head and a TV. I'm

699
00:35:29,160 --> 00:35:30,200
Speaker 4: trying to think what else.

700
00:35:30,360 --> 00:35:33,480
Speaker 2: I can speak for experience. I bought a house. To me,

701
00:35:33,719 --> 00:35:34,480
Speaker 2: it was over budget.

702
00:35:34,560 --> 00:35:36,759
Speaker 1: Jo, you know what I'm saying that My people don't

703
00:35:36,760 --> 00:35:39,240
Speaker 1: me say, Shannon, you can spend four hundred and twenty

704
00:35:39,239 --> 00:35:41,880
Speaker 1: five thousand, I said, I got you four twenty five.

705
00:35:44,080 --> 00:35:46,080
Speaker 1: I get a figure on hog for four twenty five.

706
00:35:47,120 --> 00:35:49,160
Speaker 1: First house the lady showed me with six twenty five.

707
00:35:50,120 --> 00:35:51,640
Speaker 1: I said, why are you show me in the mouse?

708
00:35:51,719 --> 00:35:54,359
Speaker 1: You know I can't afford this. Let's go somewhere else.

709
00:35:54,760 --> 00:35:56,360
Speaker 1: But I said, before we go somewhere else, let me

710
00:35:56,360 --> 00:36:03,719
Speaker 1: look around. You know what I'm saying, Joe, Oh, Joe,

711
00:36:03,840 --> 00:36:06,160
Speaker 1: I said, before we go. Since we here, now I

712
00:36:06,280 --> 00:36:08,400
Speaker 1: buy as well look around. I put my hands in

713
00:36:09,320 --> 00:36:09,920
Speaker 1: walking there.

714
00:36:10,200 --> 00:36:10,399
Speaker 2: Yeah.

715
00:36:10,440 --> 00:36:12,080
Speaker 4: Hey, that's the game they play on it.

716
00:36:12,239 --> 00:36:14,640
Speaker 2: Oh man, big old. I ain't never seen no walk

717
00:36:14,719 --> 00:36:15,360
Speaker 2: in shower.

718
00:36:18,960 --> 00:36:22,360
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, I mean our towels were the same place

719
00:36:22,440 --> 00:36:24,200
Speaker 1: my jeans were. You know, I could go get a

720
00:36:24,200 --> 00:36:26,160
Speaker 1: pair of jeans. I ain't get a towel. So you

721
00:36:26,160 --> 00:36:28,880
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, I ain't never seen no Linny closet. Lenny.

722
00:36:29,239 --> 00:36:34,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah. I walked down. She opened the door. I

723
00:36:34,480 --> 00:36:34,799
Speaker 2: go down.

724
00:36:35,120 --> 00:36:37,520
Speaker 1: I said, this a basement, I said, I said, what

725
00:36:37,600 --> 00:36:39,080
Speaker 1: is that? At the time, I ain't know what it was.

726
00:36:39,160 --> 00:36:40,960
Speaker 1: I said, what is this called? She said, it's a

727
00:36:41,000 --> 00:36:42,520
Speaker 1: basement and it's finished.

728
00:36:43,760 --> 00:36:44,240
Speaker 2: Yeah.

729
00:36:44,480 --> 00:36:49,760
Speaker 1: I walk it down there, carpeting three thousand square foot.

730
00:36:51,360 --> 00:36:54,239
Speaker 1: I said, damn, I could just imagine what I could

731
00:36:54,239 --> 00:36:54,799
Speaker 1: be doing in here.

732
00:36:56,000 --> 00:36:56,160
Speaker 3: Yeah.

733
00:36:56,880 --> 00:36:59,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, a lot of trampoline. Ass you know what I'm saying. Oh, Joe,

734
00:36:59,320 --> 00:37:06,439
Speaker 1: trampoline your twenty five I fige trampoline. It's okay, I said, okay,

735
00:37:06,520 --> 00:37:08,000
Speaker 1: this is a little bit out of my budget. Let

736
00:37:08,080 --> 00:37:09,160
Speaker 1: me see the other houses.

737
00:37:10,040 --> 00:37:13,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, said Joe. Oh Joe, I said, let

738
00:37:13,760 --> 00:37:16,719
Speaker 2: me see the bad one. Hey, then four twenty five?

739
00:37:16,760 --> 00:37:18,360
Speaker 2: May hear that like that? Okay?

740
00:37:18,560 --> 00:37:20,839
Speaker 1: She said, well okay, mister sharp, this is like this

741
00:37:20,920 --> 00:37:24,239
Speaker 1: is like four thirty five to four fifty she saw

742
00:37:24,360 --> 00:37:25,640
Speaker 1: she I sold those houses.

743
00:37:25,640 --> 00:37:27,279
Speaker 2: I walked there, hadn't hand the pocket just like that

744
00:37:27,440 --> 00:37:27,759
Speaker 2: right here.

745
00:37:33,680 --> 00:37:37,200
Speaker 1: I don't want this. I go to the other with y'all. Yo,

746
00:37:37,560 --> 00:37:40,920
Speaker 1: same thing, hands in my pocket. I look around up,

747
00:37:42,920 --> 00:37:44,520
Speaker 1: I said, look, go back and look at the other house,

748
00:37:45,480 --> 00:37:47,000
Speaker 1: look at the how the first time you showed me

749
00:37:47,120 --> 00:37:49,239
Speaker 1: that first when you showed me she said, you sure,

750
00:37:49,320 --> 00:37:51,280
Speaker 1: mister sharp, because they told me the budget.

751
00:37:52,440 --> 00:37:56,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I go back there. I started started flagging.

752
00:37:58,400 --> 00:38:02,840
Speaker 1: I said, I'm right here in the heart of Buckhead, man,

753
00:38:02,440 --> 00:38:04,400
Speaker 1: I'm there. I can walk the Philis Flatts, so I

754
00:38:04,440 --> 00:38:08,360
Speaker 1: can walk to Lenox Mall. Yes, I can walk to

755
00:38:08,400 --> 00:38:11,040
Speaker 1: the movie theaters that's in fields Platters because back then, Joe,

756
00:38:11,040 --> 00:38:13,239
Speaker 1: I don't know if you remember, Oh, when you got there,

757
00:38:13,640 --> 00:38:17,919
Speaker 1: they used to have a movie theater in Lenox Mall. Yeah,

758
00:38:17,800 --> 00:38:20,040
Speaker 1: over till old boy got shot. A dude got shot there.

759
00:38:20,160 --> 00:38:21,759
Speaker 1: But it was you didn't want to go there. I'll

760
00:38:21,800 --> 00:38:24,239
Speaker 1: tell you about that later, Joe. But anyway, yeah, I said,

761
00:38:25,640 --> 00:38:29,840
Speaker 1: I was thinking about it. I remember she dropped me

762
00:38:29,840 --> 00:38:32,239
Speaker 1: back because at the time she dropped me back at

763
00:38:32,239 --> 00:38:36,080
Speaker 1: the hotel. Yeah, she said, what do you think, mister Sharp?

764
00:38:38,000 --> 00:38:39,640
Speaker 1: I said, I think I'm about to be over budget.

765
00:38:46,520 --> 00:38:50,120
Speaker 1: I said, I think over budget. Hey, that's how they

766
00:38:50,239 --> 00:38:54,200
Speaker 1: got me, you know who. I bought the sugar y

767
00:38:54,320 --> 00:38:55,840
Speaker 1: Letonar's ex wife, Juanita.

768
00:38:56,440 --> 00:38:59,960
Speaker 2: I did, boy, they got you. Hey, they got you,

769
00:39:00,320 --> 00:39:01,040
Speaker 2: just how they got me.

770
00:39:03,239 --> 00:39:04,840
Speaker 4: I they got Joe, Ojoe.

771
00:39:05,000 --> 00:39:06,560
Speaker 5: I'm out here, supposed to be looking for me a

772
00:39:06,640 --> 00:39:09,799
Speaker 5: nice little townhouse. I just come from Phoenix, ya out

773
00:39:09,800 --> 00:39:14,880
Speaker 5: here to Atlanta. Okay, uh man uh you know Sharif

774
00:39:14,920 --> 00:39:17,520
Speaker 5: abdul raheem. He just built this house out here in

775
00:39:17,840 --> 00:39:21,439
Speaker 5: Sandy Springs. Yes, he's been living in in six months.

776
00:39:21,840 --> 00:39:26,759
Speaker 5: I said, we can go by there. We come by here, o, Joe.

777
00:39:26,760 --> 00:39:35,080
Speaker 5: I'm still in the house, and we come back, Ojoe,

778
00:39:35,120 --> 00:39:37,319
Speaker 5: we come by here. They got the chef in there.

779
00:39:37,360 --> 00:39:40,560
Speaker 5: He got everything whipped up, right, man, I supposed to

780
00:39:40,560 --> 00:39:41,480
Speaker 5: be looking at the townhouse.

781
00:39:41,480 --> 00:39:47,560
Speaker 2: It's fourteen. Look, you ain't finna take me go look

782
00:39:47,600 --> 00:39:48,320
Speaker 2: at no town.

783
00:39:49,360 --> 00:39:52,799
Speaker 1: I don't know why you, Joe, why not start with

784
00:39:52,960 --> 00:39:55,120
Speaker 1: the four twenty fives first? Right?

785
00:39:55,680 --> 00:39:57,520
Speaker 2: Why you start with this? If they I'm about to

786
00:39:57,520 --> 00:39:59,480
Speaker 2: go to that hold.

787
00:39:59,280 --> 00:40:01,120
Speaker 4: On, time out, my time out, time out.

788
00:40:01,360 --> 00:40:01,520
Speaker 2: Let.

789
00:40:01,560 --> 00:40:04,080
Speaker 4: Let's slow down a little bit, because Joe just through

790
00:40:04,120 --> 00:40:06,320
Speaker 4: the out there like I like, we me and the

791
00:40:06,400 --> 00:40:07,160
Speaker 4: chat ain't hear him?

792
00:40:07,200 --> 00:40:10,160
Speaker 2: Just say, honey, I'm just keeping it one.

793
00:40:10,320 --> 00:40:13,440
Speaker 4: Feen thousand square feet. Boy, boy, you in Buckingham.

794
00:40:12,960 --> 00:40:15,759
Speaker 2: Palace, O Joe, O Joe, O Joe.

795
00:40:16,239 --> 00:40:18,359
Speaker 5: Listen, look boy, I had to have a long talk

796
00:40:18,400 --> 00:40:19,960
Speaker 5: with my mama about this was.

797
00:40:21,480 --> 00:40:22,000
Speaker 4: Townhouse.

798
00:40:22,000 --> 00:40:23,120
Speaker 2: I ain't been to go to no town.

799
00:40:24,320 --> 00:40:26,200
Speaker 4: Hey Joe, Hey Joe, I got to. I got to

800
00:40:26,200 --> 00:40:27,160
Speaker 4: come out there and all. Let you.

801
00:40:27,560 --> 00:40:28,840
Speaker 2: You gotta come see me, Come see me.

802
00:40:29,440 --> 00:40:32,520
Speaker 4: Hey, you like you said your property, that's a property.

803
00:40:32,560 --> 00:40:37,960
Speaker 1: Ain't no house, hey, O Joe, thiss o Joe, it

804
00:40:38,000 --> 00:40:45,120
Speaker 1: ain't just the house. I got three kids all over three? Oh,

805
00:40:45,840 --> 00:40:50,200
Speaker 1: I said, man, how amouna make this work? I was like, oh,

806
00:40:50,640 --> 00:40:55,160
Speaker 1: I said man, O Joe swept for guard and two

807
00:40:55,239 --> 00:40:57,560
Speaker 1: white men. I would even catch up with a mith needle.

808
00:40:58,200 --> 00:41:00,560
Speaker 1: Bad look at you. I ain't no man, I ain't

809
00:41:00,560 --> 00:41:03,319
Speaker 1: never ain't so much tuna, oat meal and eggs in

810
00:41:03,320 --> 00:41:04,120
Speaker 1: my life.

811
00:41:05,400 --> 00:41:05,560
Speaker 4: Man.

812
00:41:05,640 --> 00:41:07,960
Speaker 2: I went to Sam's. I was I was buying like

813
00:41:08,080 --> 00:41:11,520
Speaker 2: seven eight dozen, like twenty dozen eggs at a time.

814
00:41:11,880 --> 00:41:16,200
Speaker 2: I was getting. I was getting palettes of tuna. That's

815
00:41:16,200 --> 00:41:17,839
Speaker 2: what I'm like. I gotta pay for that. I gotta

816
00:41:17,840 --> 00:41:19,200
Speaker 2: pay for the house I got paid for.

817
00:41:19,360 --> 00:41:22,919
Speaker 4: That's what hey, hey, listen, you gotta make you gotta

818
00:41:22,960 --> 00:41:28,040
Speaker 4: sund you want you wanted that house to listen, I

819
00:41:28,680 --> 00:41:32,040
Speaker 4: understand your pain. I've been there before, maybe not maybe

820
00:41:32,080 --> 00:41:34,759
Speaker 4: not to that extent, but listen, we we've all had

821
00:41:35,120 --> 00:41:38,600
Speaker 4: to sacrifice something for something else that we like, and

822
00:41:38,640 --> 00:41:41,560
Speaker 4: we love you, we appreciate at that at that time,

823
00:41:42,360 --> 00:41:46,520
Speaker 4: knowing it's out our budget. Hey knowing good well, because

824
00:41:46,520 --> 00:41:47,120
Speaker 4: we know it can't.

825
00:41:47,719 --> 00:41:50,239
Speaker 1: Ain't no coming. I ain't had no take nothing either.

826
00:41:50,400 --> 00:41:52,000
Speaker 2: I didn't. I had a couch.

827
00:41:52,360 --> 00:41:55,960
Speaker 1: Then I had a bad That's all I had for Hey.

828
00:41:56,520 --> 00:42:00,319
Speaker 5: Hey, look, hey, hey, had you working hard as all cakes?

829
00:42:00,719 --> 00:42:02,239
Speaker 2: I had a cake size bed. I had a cakese

830
00:42:02,280 --> 00:42:04,880
Speaker 2: I bed. Uh what's that?

831
00:42:05,200 --> 00:42:09,440
Speaker 1: H You remember the furniture store, huffs Joe, right there

832
00:42:09,480 --> 00:42:12,400
Speaker 1: on Ladies Road by the church. It used to be

833
00:42:12,400 --> 00:42:20,239
Speaker 1: a glass It was a big glass building right there. Uh,

834
00:42:20,280 --> 00:42:22,799
Speaker 1: but the furniture, that's what it all. All the high

835
00:42:22,880 --> 00:42:24,879
Speaker 1: end black entertainers a limb. They used to go get

836
00:42:24,880 --> 00:42:25,520
Speaker 1: their furniture from there.

837
00:42:25,600 --> 00:42:28,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you probably.

838
00:42:29,320 --> 00:42:31,399
Speaker 1: Do that, but you know I had to get don't

839
00:42:31,400 --> 00:42:34,439
Speaker 1: even take it like, oh oh, Joe, Joe, I had

840
00:42:34,440 --> 00:42:38,160
Speaker 1: a bed, but you don't. My bed was black lacquer,

841
00:42:39,320 --> 00:42:45,080
Speaker 1: black lacker, and it light up like like an infinity

842
00:42:45,160 --> 00:42:46,440
Speaker 1: like infinity.

843
00:42:46,640 --> 00:42:48,160
Speaker 4: And Ellie and hold on.

844
00:42:48,480 --> 00:42:52,040
Speaker 1: You had before it was cool, before it was before

845
00:42:52,040 --> 00:42:55,320
Speaker 1: it was the stop right. Hey, let me tell you

846
00:42:55,320 --> 00:42:56,640
Speaker 1: what I did. Let me tell you what I had,

847
00:42:56,680 --> 00:42:59,640
Speaker 1: Oh Joe, I slurred a little bit. I went all

848
00:42:59,680 --> 00:43:01,799
Speaker 1: it out. Who like I said, I would even catch

849
00:43:01,840 --> 00:43:02,560
Speaker 1: up with a knit needle.

850
00:43:03,719 --> 00:43:04,960
Speaker 4: Come on, take your time.

851
00:43:05,080 --> 00:43:08,960
Speaker 1: And I had me a level comforter custom made for

852
00:43:09,000 --> 00:43:09,359
Speaker 1: the bed.

853
00:43:10,040 --> 00:43:11,799
Speaker 2: You cut up level think?

854
00:43:11,880 --> 00:43:18,000
Speaker 1: I what whatever? Lether comforter custom for the bed?

855
00:43:19,400 --> 00:43:19,920
Speaker 4: Yeah?

856
00:43:20,560 --> 00:43:20,960
Speaker 2: Oh yeah.

857
00:43:21,280 --> 00:43:23,120
Speaker 1: Then I did a car sign and you know I

858
00:43:23,120 --> 00:43:24,560
Speaker 1: did a car if you know back then you saw

859
00:43:24,560 --> 00:43:26,839
Speaker 1: a kind of signed cars. Uh, they gave you boy

860
00:43:26,840 --> 00:43:29,719
Speaker 1: a little money. I signed like two thousand cars, got

861
00:43:29,719 --> 00:43:30,760
Speaker 1: me about twelve five.

862
00:43:32,160 --> 00:43:39,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, bought me some satin sheets, sat team. Hey, how

863
00:43:39,360 --> 00:43:39,960
Speaker 2: about this here?

864
00:43:40,400 --> 00:43:43,239
Speaker 1: Man? You know I see them in the movies how

865
00:43:43,239 --> 00:43:45,560
Speaker 1: they run jump in the band? How I go jump

866
00:43:45,600 --> 00:43:48,280
Speaker 1: in the best always cost the floor with the other.

867
00:43:48,160 --> 00:43:51,680
Speaker 2: Side on the floor. I went. I said, oh man,

868
00:43:52,160 --> 00:43:54,400
Speaker 2: this stuff looked good. This ain't functional.

869
00:43:56,719 --> 00:43:59,239
Speaker 5: Hey, hey, hold up, but why are you talking? Oh Joe,

870
00:43:59,520 --> 00:44:01,279
Speaker 5: y'all still do a card signings?

871
00:44:01,840 --> 00:44:04,359
Speaker 2: I do, I do, I do every every blue moon.

872
00:44:04,440 --> 00:44:06,879
Speaker 1: Joe because back then, you know, my brother would take

873
00:44:06,920 --> 00:44:09,239
Speaker 1: me like they want my brother. He had just but

874
00:44:09,400 --> 00:44:11,839
Speaker 1: in the beginning, they wanted my brother because he had,

875
00:44:11,920 --> 00:44:15,479
Speaker 1: you know, won the Triple Crown. He was an All

876
00:44:15,560 --> 00:44:18,320
Speaker 1: pro first, you know, a hundred catch season, back to

877
00:44:18,400 --> 00:44:21,440
Speaker 1: back hundred catch seasons. So they wanted him and all

878
00:44:21,480 --> 00:44:23,879
Speaker 1: the way he would go do the signing. They had

879
00:44:23,920 --> 00:44:26,680
Speaker 1: to take me. So they thought, you bought twenty five

880
00:44:26,760 --> 00:44:32,200
Speaker 1: hundred five thousand, right right, I mean one time I

881
00:44:32,239 --> 00:44:34,560
Speaker 1: signed ten thousand cards.

882
00:44:35,640 --> 00:44:38,040
Speaker 2: Damn in one sinding.

883
00:44:38,680 --> 00:44:41,160
Speaker 1: They gave you, they gave you three months.

884
00:44:41,680 --> 00:44:42,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, oh to get through it.

885
00:44:43,000 --> 00:44:45,200
Speaker 4: Okay, okay, but I was I had a couch.

886
00:44:45,880 --> 00:44:50,319
Speaker 1: I had a couch and had no TV. But I

887
00:44:50,360 --> 00:44:52,680
Speaker 1: had a bed and the bed was nice. I'm just

888
00:44:52,719 --> 00:44:55,560
Speaker 1: saying the bed wasnce. The bed was nice.

889
00:44:57,520 --> 00:44:57,759
Speaker 2: Yeah.

890
00:44:57,880 --> 00:45:01,200
Speaker 5: Hey, I'm still doing card signings to this day.

891
00:45:01,400 --> 00:45:03,640
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, yeah, I still I still sign a lot.

892
00:45:03,680 --> 00:45:09,000
Speaker 1: By I look back, I look back, I think about

893
00:45:09,040 --> 00:45:11,360
Speaker 1: sometime now, I'll just be laying that I was like, damn,

894
00:45:12,480 --> 00:45:16,160
Speaker 1: if they could have went sideways of a hurry. Oh yeah,

895
00:45:16,200 --> 00:45:19,160
Speaker 1: I ain't have no choice. You were shooting up. Yeah,

896
00:45:19,200 --> 00:45:23,200
Speaker 1: I was shooting up. Had I got three I got

897
00:45:23,200 --> 00:45:25,560
Speaker 1: to get on. I got three kids, they in daycare,

898
00:45:27,040 --> 00:45:29,920
Speaker 1: and I got I still gotta take care of Granted,

899
00:45:30,040 --> 00:45:33,000
Speaker 1: I still gotta take care of living mom everyone in

900
00:45:33,040 --> 00:45:36,120
Speaker 1: a while, plus the kid. That's my number one responsibility.

901
00:45:36,200 --> 00:45:39,799
Speaker 1: So if I gotta do without, I'm cool. People say, man,

902
00:45:40,360 --> 00:45:43,120
Speaker 1: I could train myself. I'll go a couple of days

903
00:45:43,120 --> 00:45:48,520
Speaker 1: without eating. He'll be killing so hungry.

904
00:45:49,120 --> 00:45:50,520
Speaker 2: But I said, yeah, I got.

905
00:45:50,520 --> 00:45:52,640
Speaker 1: I gotta put myself in a situation because if I

906
00:45:52,680 --> 00:45:55,080
Speaker 1: ever have to not be able to eat, I'm gonna

907
00:45:55,080 --> 00:45:55,640
Speaker 1: be good with you.

908
00:45:56,640 --> 00:46:00,000
Speaker 5: Hey, Hey, it's a lot of people, ain't They ain't

909
00:46:00,000 --> 00:46:02,799
Speaker 5: gonna be to understand what you're saying. Bro, No, it's

910
00:46:02,840 --> 00:46:04,239
Speaker 5: just a lot of us. It's a lot of us

911
00:46:04,280 --> 00:46:05,400
Speaker 5: who have been there and done that.

912
00:46:05,920 --> 00:46:08,280
Speaker 4: Hey, Joe, the funny thing about it is is the people.

913
00:46:08,400 --> 00:46:11,200
Speaker 4: The people aren't gonna understand because they've they've only seen

914
00:46:11,239 --> 00:46:14,560
Speaker 4: the finished prought up. They've only seen the finish. They've

915
00:46:14,560 --> 00:46:17,759
Speaker 4: only seen you on Sundays. They don't understand the walk

916
00:46:17,840 --> 00:46:19,759
Speaker 4: you took, in the path you took to get to

917
00:46:19,840 --> 00:46:22,600
Speaker 4: where you are. They don't understand the sacrifices that came

918
00:46:22,640 --> 00:46:24,719
Speaker 4: along that God damn journey.

919
00:46:24,560 --> 00:46:27,719
Speaker 6: Before you got to what you see on Sundays.

920
00:46:29,440 --> 00:46:31,960
Speaker 4: They'll never get it. They'll never get it.

921
00:46:32,080 --> 00:46:34,240
Speaker 1: When I called the phrase to me, I wore summer clothes,

922
00:46:34,440 --> 00:46:36,600
Speaker 1: I told him. And when I went to college, I said, man,

923
00:46:36,640 --> 00:46:38,879
Speaker 1: I wore summer clothes. Man looked at me and said,

924
00:46:38,880 --> 00:46:41,120
Speaker 1: what you mean summer clothes. Some of my brothers, some

925
00:46:41,200 --> 00:46:45,759
Speaker 1: of my uncles, some of my clubs, that your past

926
00:46:45,840 --> 00:46:46,759
Speaker 1: that bang on down.

927
00:46:49,040 --> 00:46:54,520
Speaker 2: I'm like, what us last year? I got the man?

928
00:46:54,719 --> 00:46:58,000
Speaker 1: Listen and when you when it got too small for me,

929
00:46:58,480 --> 00:47:00,799
Speaker 1: that's the jeans they cut up. And you know back then,

930
00:47:00,880 --> 00:47:02,640
Speaker 1: you know you're on your you're on your knees. You

931
00:47:02,719 --> 00:47:05,400
Speaker 1: put holes in your knees in jeans. My grandma was

932
00:47:05,880 --> 00:47:11,480
Speaker 1: that ain't gotten too small for me? Man, all that stitching.

933
00:47:11,680 --> 00:47:18,319
Speaker 1: Come on, granny. This when you was in college, I was.

934
00:47:18,480 --> 00:47:20,840
Speaker 1: I was in the coming up in school. I was

935
00:47:20,840 --> 00:47:22,880
Speaker 1: coming out there. But no, when I was in college,

936
00:47:22,880 --> 00:47:26,840
Speaker 1: you know, look, I went to college. I had matching luggage.

937
00:47:27,200 --> 00:47:30,439
Speaker 1: I had two piggy wiggy bags with everything I owned

938
00:47:30,440 --> 00:47:33,600
Speaker 1: this side of them. I haven't match your luggage, Oh,

939
00:47:33,680 --> 00:47:36,440
Speaker 1: Joe Pickley Wiggly, No, it might have been winnings at

940
00:47:36,440 --> 00:47:39,720
Speaker 1: the time they changed. But I had two brown bags.

941
00:47:40,239 --> 00:47:42,480
Speaker 1: You don't believe in As Pastor Cord, I went to

942
00:47:42,520 --> 00:47:44,719
Speaker 1: college class of eighty six, That's that's what we call

943
00:47:44,760 --> 00:47:48,879
Speaker 1: myself eighty six, and somehow I showed up two Winn

944
00:47:48,960 --> 00:47:52,360
Speaker 1: Dixie brown brown grocery bags. I had everything I owned

945
00:47:52,360 --> 00:47:53,200
Speaker 1: in those bags.

946
00:47:54,960 --> 00:47:57,640
Speaker 5: Hey, I believe boy, I ain't had much in thathing

947
00:47:57,640 --> 00:47:59,239
Speaker 5: when I went to college, Lea, I ain't gonna lie

948
00:47:59,239 --> 00:48:01,520
Speaker 5: to tell you. I used to want to cramp out

949
00:48:01,560 --> 00:48:03,560
Speaker 5: them Arkansas Raizor Bank Swiss Oo.

950
00:48:04,400 --> 00:48:06,720
Speaker 2: I'm talking about all kinds of stuff on them.

951
00:48:06,560 --> 00:48:08,320
Speaker 4: Swiss like it was designed.

952
00:48:08,360 --> 00:48:12,080
Speaker 2: Uh huh man, what you talking about? And you remember.

953
00:48:13,280 --> 00:48:17,719
Speaker 1: Like in the dorm you had like we had one

954
00:48:17,920 --> 00:48:22,600
Speaker 1: wash it, we had two washers, two drives. Now think

955
00:48:22,640 --> 00:48:29,040
Speaker 1: about it, you got long, you might got seventy guys,

956
00:48:29,840 --> 00:48:34,240
Speaker 1: two washers, two drives. So guess what happened. Guess what happened.

957
00:48:34,520 --> 00:48:37,880
Speaker 1: If your stuff, your stuff, you're not there.

958
00:48:37,680 --> 00:48:41,480
Speaker 3: To see it, it's gonna be on top and somebody

959
00:48:41,520 --> 00:48:44,480
Speaker 3: else stuff in there, and you just hope your best

960
00:48:44,600 --> 00:48:47,160
Speaker 3: eyes on shirt and your best stuff you see somebody

961
00:48:47,160 --> 00:48:48,600
Speaker 3: with me.

962
00:48:49,840 --> 00:48:52,680
Speaker 5: Hey, Hey, and you already know though, when you're down

963
00:48:52,719 --> 00:48:54,080
Speaker 5: there washing them clothes and college.

964
00:48:54,080 --> 00:48:56,279
Speaker 2: You got to stay to stay down there with you.

965
00:48:56,280 --> 00:48:58,200
Speaker 2: You can't put the starting them clothes and talking about

966
00:48:58,200 --> 00:48:59,160
Speaker 2: you gonna go to your boat.

967
00:48:59,320 --> 00:49:04,759
Speaker 1: Okay, okay, Hey, that was the best thing on Joe

968
00:49:04,760 --> 00:49:05,759
Speaker 1: when I got a girlfriend.

969
00:49:05,920 --> 00:49:07,600
Speaker 2: I got a girlfriend my junior year.

970
00:49:08,760 --> 00:49:13,880
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, Hey you think, Hey, everything wash it folded

971
00:49:14,000 --> 00:49:17,400
Speaker 1: up because you know I'm just washing. I I'm dumping

972
00:49:17,440 --> 00:49:19,560
Speaker 1: everything in there together, throwing in there.

973
00:49:22,280 --> 00:49:24,399
Speaker 6: You ain't saying you ain't separating nothing.

974
00:49:24,400 --> 00:49:24,799
Speaker 4: You washing.

975
00:49:25,000 --> 00:49:28,760
Speaker 2: I'm washing everything. I ain't the only thing that average bleach.

976
00:49:28,840 --> 00:49:30,920
Speaker 1: I just knew you couldn't put bleach in color, but

977
00:49:30,960 --> 00:49:34,400
Speaker 1: everything else, Hey, tiede, that's that's the only that's the

978
00:49:34,400 --> 00:49:35,880
Speaker 1: only that's the only thing we always use.

979
00:49:35,920 --> 00:49:36,879
Speaker 2: We only use tide.

980
00:49:37,239 --> 00:49:40,560
Speaker 1: We have no fabric soften that we have nothing static

981
00:49:40,600 --> 00:49:43,880
Speaker 1: and that pie. I have my four pair of socks

982
00:49:43,880 --> 00:49:49,239
Speaker 1: stuck to my gee. Shall y'all know, y'all know what

983
00:49:49,239 --> 00:49:52,239
Speaker 1: I'm talking about. I ain't the only one. Hey, I

984
00:49:52,280 --> 00:49:58,040
Speaker 1: remember them days throw back? Uh? Is it rare to

985
00:49:58,080 --> 00:50:01,319
Speaker 1: see Pete Carroll because the one thing we know about

986
00:50:01,320 --> 00:50:03,600
Speaker 1: pre Caroll, he can rebuild. Look at what he did

987
00:50:03,600 --> 00:50:06,319
Speaker 1: at USC look at what he did at Seattle. Are

988
00:50:06,360 --> 00:50:09,120
Speaker 1: you surprised that they didn't give him more time to

989
00:50:09,160 --> 00:50:11,480
Speaker 1: try to get this thing turned around than one year?

990
00:50:12,800 --> 00:50:15,799
Speaker 4: No, absolutely not. I'm not surprised at all, obviously because

991
00:50:15,920 --> 00:50:18,759
Speaker 4: where they were ranked offensively and defensively. I'm not sure

992
00:50:18,760 --> 00:50:21,759
Speaker 4: if the players were responding to Pete Carroll. Obviously, I

993
00:50:21,760 --> 00:50:23,319
Speaker 4: think they want to go a little bit younger when

994
00:50:23,320 --> 00:50:26,319
Speaker 4: it comes to the coaching staff that they that they

995
00:50:26,320 --> 00:50:27,759
Speaker 4: want to bring in, they want to go in a

996
00:50:27,760 --> 00:50:31,680
Speaker 4: completely different direction. Obviously, I love Peter, love what Peter's

997
00:50:31,719 --> 00:50:33,840
Speaker 4: been able to do at the NFL level, at the

998
00:50:33,880 --> 00:50:38,520
Speaker 4: collegiate level, but it's obvious that Tom and others that

999
00:50:38,560 --> 00:50:40,840
Speaker 4: are making those calls in that building want to go

1000
00:50:40,960 --> 00:50:44,879
Speaker 4: much younger, to another coach where the players a little

1001
00:50:44,880 --> 00:50:46,960
Speaker 4: bit more receptive to what they.

1002
00:50:46,840 --> 00:50:47,359
Speaker 2: Have to say.

1003
00:50:48,000 --> 00:50:51,280
Speaker 1: But think about what he had in Seattle. They get Russ,

1004
00:50:51,560 --> 00:50:56,000
Speaker 1: they get Shared, they get b Wags, they get Cliff Abril,

1005
00:50:56,320 --> 00:50:59,759
Speaker 1: they get Earl Thomas, they got cam Look at what

1006
00:50:59,800 --> 00:51:02,840
Speaker 1: they Look at what they're doing now. They trade for beasts, Mold,

1007
00:51:03,120 --> 00:51:08,160
Speaker 1: they draft those receivers, Cursed and Baldwin. You see, look

1008
00:51:08,200 --> 00:51:11,080
Speaker 1: at what they got now you got Russ. Now you

1009
00:51:11,120 --> 00:51:15,239
Speaker 1: got a nucleus. What nucleus is in in excuse me

1010
00:51:15,320 --> 00:51:16,000
Speaker 1: in Vegas?

1011
00:51:16,880 --> 00:51:24,440
Speaker 4: It ain't mac Crosby brock Bowels, even though it's early.

1012
00:51:24,440 --> 00:51:27,560
Speaker 1: And with that, it wasn't until they got the quarterback

1013
00:51:27,600 --> 00:51:31,560
Speaker 1: with Russ, Yeah, that they were able and part with

1014
00:51:31,600 --> 00:51:35,279
Speaker 1: that legion of boom. They get Michael Benett, you know,

1015
00:51:35,280 --> 00:51:38,280
Speaker 1: they get Michael Benett, and they get you know, Malcolm Smith,

1016
00:51:38,320 --> 00:51:42,240
Speaker 1: and they get a couple of these other guys and yeah, wila.

1017
00:51:43,320 --> 00:51:45,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's a that's AOK time now.

1018
00:51:47,040 --> 00:51:50,359
Speaker 1: Team, they give you no time now, o Joe oh, Joe,

1019
00:51:50,560 --> 00:51:53,200
Speaker 1: Zach Taylor apparently who.

1020
00:51:52,640 --> 00:51:53,239
Speaker 2: Will pass oh?

1021
00:51:53,360 --> 00:51:56,400
Speaker 1: Listening to Joe Burrow and Jamar Chase their desire to

1022
00:51:56,440 --> 00:51:59,840
Speaker 1: make change in the big and those Bengals organization, Taylor's

1023
00:52:00,000 --> 00:52:02,640
Speaker 1: good on Bens today, stating that he does not plan

1024
00:52:02,719 --> 00:52:06,120
Speaker 1: on making any changes to the coaches down. He compiled

1025
00:52:06,120 --> 00:52:08,719
Speaker 1: a fifty two, sixty three and one record over the

1026
00:52:08,800 --> 00:52:11,439
Speaker 1: last seventh season and led the Bengals to the Super

1027
00:52:11,480 --> 00:52:14,680
Speaker 1: Bowl in twenty twenty one. The Bengals defense was one

1028
00:52:14,680 --> 00:52:18,280
Speaker 1: of the worst in the NFL, ranking thirtieth in points allowed,

1029
00:52:18,480 --> 00:52:22,600
Speaker 1: thirty first in total yard surrender. Even with those dismal stats,

1030
00:52:23,040 --> 00:52:26,960
Speaker 1: Taylor plans to bring back defensive coordinator Al Golden for

1031
00:52:27,120 --> 00:52:28,880
Speaker 1: a second season.

1032
00:52:28,600 --> 00:52:29,800
Speaker 2: In the role o.

1033
00:52:30,040 --> 00:52:34,040
Speaker 1: Yo, are you surprised with how bad the note? I'm

1034
00:52:34,080 --> 00:52:37,160
Speaker 1: not made that he's not willing to make any changes.

1035
00:52:39,400 --> 00:52:43,000
Speaker 4: Absolutely not. Because listen, they said lou Anroma was a problem.

1036
00:52:43,120 --> 00:52:45,520
Speaker 4: The year before last, lou An Roma went to the

1037
00:52:45,520 --> 00:52:48,040
Speaker 4: goddamn Coats and they had a good defense. Because you

1038
00:52:48,040 --> 00:52:49,879
Speaker 4: know why they had a good defense in Indy, because

1039
00:52:49,880 --> 00:52:51,960
Speaker 4: they had the players. You'll be able to execute the

1040
00:52:52,000 --> 00:52:55,080
Speaker 4: scheme and the taxes that lou and Rouma wanted to run. Listen,

1041
00:52:55,200 --> 00:52:59,800
Speaker 4: Al Golden, the Disciples, Jesus of Nazareth, God, it wouldn't

1042
00:52:59,800 --> 00:53:01,759
Speaker 4: matter who was coaching that goddamn defense.

1043
00:53:01,520 --> 00:53:02,560
Speaker 2: Joe, Huh.

1044
00:53:02,600 --> 00:53:05,640
Speaker 4: They wasn't gonna be able to perform in this off season.

1045
00:53:06,160 --> 00:53:08,799
Speaker 4: This off season for the Bengals, the only focus for

1046
00:53:08,880 --> 00:53:13,080
Speaker 4: us needs to be in the draft and off season.

1047
00:53:12,880 --> 00:53:15,640
Speaker 6: Acquisitions needs to be defensive help.

1048
00:53:16,160 --> 00:53:19,880
Speaker 4: It needs to be defensive help. Honestly, I've said this,

1049
00:53:20,000 --> 00:53:23,319
Speaker 4: playing around, playing around, obviously saying stuff I would love.

1050
00:53:23,400 --> 00:53:26,720
Speaker 4: Jeffrey Simmons, I'm not sure that's possible with Tennessee biblot

1051
00:53:26,760 --> 00:53:29,520
Speaker 4: willing to let him go. No, will Mike Brown pay him?

1052
00:53:29,719 --> 00:53:33,000
Speaker 4: Absolutely absolutely, based on what we just saw last year

1053
00:53:33,040 --> 00:53:35,399
Speaker 4: and what we saw the previous year, Yes, they.

1054
00:53:35,320 --> 00:53:36,640
Speaker 2: Will do it. He will do it.

1055
00:53:38,560 --> 00:53:41,640
Speaker 4: Another thing, we need three pieces. We need some at

1056
00:53:41,719 --> 00:53:43,880
Speaker 4: all three levels. We need some on the front, on

1057
00:53:44,320 --> 00:53:46,560
Speaker 4: the front level, and on the back end. I love

1058
00:53:46,680 --> 00:53:49,560
Speaker 4: DJ Turner, I love DJ Turner. I love what he's

1059
00:53:49,600 --> 00:53:51,600
Speaker 4: turned out to be. He's gonna get paid this off

1060
00:53:51,600 --> 00:53:55,279
Speaker 4: season at the second level. Demetrir's Night. He needs to

1061
00:53:55,320 --> 00:53:57,560
Speaker 4: have that goddamn seal on his checks next year. Young

1062
00:53:57,600 --> 00:54:03,239
Speaker 4: Buller's Knights, Soth Carol game call. Hey, hey, Joe, when

1063
00:54:03,239 --> 00:54:05,919
Speaker 4: your turn on the tape, that young bull all over

1064
00:54:05,960 --> 00:54:08,359
Speaker 4: the place. Boy, he got a moto on him.

1065
00:54:09,000 --> 00:54:10,680
Speaker 6: Hey, he gonna be nice.

1066
00:54:10,680 --> 00:54:13,759
Speaker 4: He gonna be something. So we need three pieces, Joe,

1067
00:54:13,920 --> 00:54:16,560
Speaker 4: We need three get something on that third level. We

1068
00:54:16,640 --> 00:54:19,760
Speaker 4: get somebody like Jeffery Simmons to help stop that run.

1069
00:54:20,000 --> 00:54:23,879
Speaker 4: And hoping Shamar Stewart in his second year gets much

1070
00:54:23,880 --> 00:54:25,960
Speaker 4: better as opposed to what we saw this year from him,

1071
00:54:26,120 --> 00:54:28,160
Speaker 4: to go early in the draft and live up to

1072
00:54:28,200 --> 00:54:29,520
Speaker 4: that high round expectation.

1073
00:54:30,400 --> 00:54:32,239
Speaker 2: I think we're gonna be all right, y'all.

1074
00:54:32,239 --> 00:54:34,799
Speaker 5: All right, y'all gonna have to get that out the draft,

1075
00:54:34,800 --> 00:54:36,840
Speaker 5: ain't you, Oh, Joe, y'all got some y'all got too

1076
00:54:36,920 --> 00:54:38,400
Speaker 5: much money tied up in that offense.

1077
00:54:38,719 --> 00:54:41,000
Speaker 6: Hey, Joe, you ain't never lie. Listen with you me.

1078
00:54:41,160 --> 00:54:42,840
Speaker 4: I'm picking up what you're putting down, Joe, But we

1079
00:54:42,840 --> 00:54:43,279
Speaker 4: got to do.

1080
00:54:43,239 --> 00:54:43,719
Speaker 2: Something you got.

1081
00:54:43,880 --> 00:54:45,720
Speaker 1: Y'all gonna have to redo what you call them contract

1082
00:54:45,719 --> 00:54:51,280
Speaker 1: because uh T was basically a one year deal. Yeah,

1083
00:54:51,560 --> 00:54:55,080
Speaker 1: he was basically one year deal, O Joe. Yeah, but

1084
00:54:55,160 --> 00:54:57,120
Speaker 1: you need some off his aligne with two at some

1085
00:54:57,160 --> 00:55:00,920
Speaker 1: point in time. Y'all gotta stop getting Joe hit, Yeah,

1086
00:55:01,040 --> 00:55:04,200
Speaker 1: because that's not your offense. Y'all s fair things up

1087
00:55:04,239 --> 00:55:06,480
Speaker 1: on Sunday just to try to keep Miles from getting

1088
00:55:06,520 --> 00:55:08,400
Speaker 1: that y'all pushed the ball down the field.

1089
00:55:08,560 --> 00:55:10,320
Speaker 2: Y'all really didn't push the ball down the field, but

1090
00:55:10,400 --> 00:55:11,120
Speaker 2: one time, won't.

1091
00:55:11,040 --> 00:55:13,319
Speaker 1: Joe because y'all was trying to get the ball out

1092
00:55:13,360 --> 00:55:15,840
Speaker 1: of his hands because you didn't want to try to

1093
00:55:15,840 --> 00:55:16,760
Speaker 1: get to your quarterback.

1094
00:55:17,719 --> 00:55:19,879
Speaker 6: As matter of fact, it's so funny. What did I say?

1095
00:55:19,880 --> 00:55:20,000
Speaker 1: What?

1096
00:55:20,080 --> 00:55:21,480
Speaker 4: How did I say? The game was gonna look?

1097
00:55:21,520 --> 00:55:21,719
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1098
00:55:21,760 --> 00:55:24,360
Speaker 4: You said it the night before the game, I said

1099
00:55:24,360 --> 00:55:27,680
Speaker 4: it was gonna be quick game misdirection and getting the

1100
00:55:27,719 --> 00:55:29,840
Speaker 4: ball out of his hands real fast, and I'd be damn,

1101
00:55:29,840 --> 00:55:31,920
Speaker 4: that's exactly what they did all god damn game long.

1102
00:55:32,200 --> 00:55:36,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, but that's not a but that's not that's not

1103
00:55:36,320 --> 00:55:41,160
Speaker 1: your offense though, No, your offense is, oh, chose to

1104
00:55:41,160 --> 00:55:43,520
Speaker 1: push the ball down the field? Yeah, you get Look,

1105
00:55:43,560 --> 00:55:45,279
Speaker 1: we want to push the ball down, push the putt

1106
00:55:45,280 --> 00:55:47,440
Speaker 1: the ball to chase his hand. But Chase catch a

1107
00:55:47,440 --> 00:55:50,279
Speaker 1: lot of deep balls. Team catch a lot of.

1108
00:55:50,280 --> 00:55:52,480
Speaker 2: Deep balls, deep ball. Yeah, they do.

1109
00:55:53,040 --> 00:55:56,680
Speaker 1: So to get outside of what you schematically normally would do.

1110
00:55:57,120 --> 00:56:00,600
Speaker 1: And that's why I hate. Look, if I want you,

1111
00:56:00,680 --> 00:56:04,040
Speaker 1: I can neutralize anybody if I'm willing to jump, if

1112
00:56:04,040 --> 00:56:06,759
Speaker 1: I'm willing to jump my offensive defense just to keep

1113
00:56:06,800 --> 00:56:12,600
Speaker 1: one player at bath. But at what expense? At what expense,

1114
00:56:13,800 --> 00:56:16,080
Speaker 1: Joe Burrow is a push the ball down the field?

1115
00:56:17,440 --> 00:56:20,080
Speaker 1: You got receivers that can get down the field. Yeah,

1116
00:56:20,120 --> 00:56:21,960
Speaker 1: you can get the ball in their hands and occasionally,

1117
00:56:22,000 --> 00:56:23,879
Speaker 1: yeah they'll do that. They'll get the ball in T's hand.

1118
00:56:24,000 --> 00:56:26,239
Speaker 1: They'll get the ball. More so chasing, because I think

1119
00:56:26,320 --> 00:56:27,960
Speaker 1: Chase is a little better run after the catch than

1120
00:56:27,960 --> 00:56:30,759
Speaker 1: t is. T is a much bigger receiver. Go over

1121
00:56:30,800 --> 00:56:33,719
Speaker 1: the top, he'll high point the ball. Tremendous hand, great

1122
00:56:33,800 --> 00:56:37,799
Speaker 1: hand eye coordination. But Sunday, you guys like nah, Man,

1123
00:56:37,800 --> 00:56:39,640
Speaker 1: we're gonna do everything we possibly care to try to

1124
00:56:39,640 --> 00:56:42,040
Speaker 1: neutralize Mile. So that means a lot of quick store,

1125
00:56:42,080 --> 00:56:43,960
Speaker 1: a lot of hitching, a lot of smoke stuff, a

1126
00:56:43,960 --> 00:56:49,720
Speaker 1: lot of shallows. Hey, get the ball up. The reason

1127
00:56:49,760 --> 00:56:53,040
Speaker 1: why I'm not surprised the one thing I know about

1128
00:56:53,080 --> 00:56:56,600
Speaker 1: the Brown family. They ain't spending no excess money. I've

1129
00:56:56,600 --> 00:56:58,480
Speaker 1: been damn if you're gonna get much keep they get

1130
00:56:58,480 --> 00:57:00,960
Speaker 1: their money and you're not working for them. That is

1131
00:57:01,000 --> 00:57:05,400
Speaker 1: how they do business. O Jo, you know them. I've

1132
00:57:05,440 --> 00:57:08,439
Speaker 1: been around the league and heard people talk. He ain't

1133
00:57:08,440 --> 00:57:11,160
Speaker 1: find no car. How many more years does Zach Taylor

1134
00:57:11,160 --> 00:57:12,040
Speaker 1: got on his contract?

1135
00:57:12,280 --> 00:57:12,520
Speaker 4: That is?

1136
00:57:12,640 --> 00:57:14,719
Speaker 1: That is, how how many more years he gonna be

1137
00:57:14,760 --> 00:57:15,759
Speaker 1: coaching in Cincinnati.

1138
00:57:16,520 --> 00:57:20,600
Speaker 4: He's gonna be right there, Yeah, absolutely right, absolutely right.

1139
00:57:21,920 --> 00:57:25,360
Speaker 1: Gause A man that one and done stuff that that

1140
00:57:25,360 --> 00:57:27,360
Speaker 1: that you see other coaches that other owners do.

1141
00:57:28,440 --> 00:57:29,320
Speaker 2: Mike Brown ain't doing that.

1142
00:57:29,360 --> 00:57:31,640
Speaker 4: Ain't having that. Hell no, he Now you think you

1143
00:57:31,680 --> 00:57:33,720
Speaker 4: think you think you can find somebody he still got

1144
00:57:33,720 --> 00:57:37,640
Speaker 4: to pay and they not actually in that not it

1145
00:57:37,640 --> 00:57:38,280
Speaker 4: ain't happening.

1146
00:57:38,960 --> 00:57:42,640
Speaker 1: So Zach Taylor stays, we'll come back to the n

1147
00:57:42,680 --> 00:57:45,200
Speaker 1: B A excuse me, We'll come back to football to bed.

1148
00:57:45,200 --> 00:57:49,280
Speaker 1: But NBA news first, O Yo, have the floor for

1149
00:57:49,360 --> 00:57:51,400
Speaker 1: some spoken words. It's yours O yo.

1150
00:57:51,880 --> 00:57:58,360
Speaker 4: Oh man ay chat uh he a, Joe, this is

1151
00:57:58,160 --> 00:58:01,160
Speaker 4: this is deep man okay taking time now?

1152
00:58:02,600 --> 00:58:14,240
Speaker 2: Oh man man got the manahu a chat.

1153
00:58:14,880 --> 00:58:19,760
Speaker 4: I know Auns Ravens didn't make the playoffs. There have

1154
00:58:19,800 --> 00:58:23,960
Speaker 4: been some some rude things that have been said to

1155
00:58:24,080 --> 00:58:28,280
Speaker 4: the kicker, Tyler Loop, And knowing that I do spoken word,

1156
00:58:28,560 --> 00:58:31,240
Speaker 4: I thought I'd come up with something for him to

1157
00:58:31,360 --> 00:58:35,440
Speaker 4: encourage him to go forward and to be better because

1158
00:58:36,280 --> 00:58:40,000
Speaker 4: that moment in which he missed that kick, that opportunity

1159
00:58:40,000 --> 00:58:42,920
Speaker 4: will present itself again. So let me know you're.

1160
00:58:42,760 --> 00:58:44,600
Speaker 2: Already You ready, Joe?

1161
00:58:45,000 --> 00:58:45,320
Speaker 1: All right?

1162
00:58:45,600 --> 00:58:51,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm ready. Yeah.

1163
00:58:51,800 --> 00:58:56,880
Speaker 4: This is called the kick, kick.

1164
00:58:58,280 --> 00:58:58,720
Speaker 6: The kick.

1165
00:59:02,680 --> 00:59:07,000
Speaker 4: They call it one kick, But Tyler Loop felt a

1166
00:59:07,080 --> 00:59:12,800
Speaker 4: lifetime in that moment. The whistle was sharp, the stadium

1167
00:59:13,240 --> 00:59:21,200
Speaker 4: was loud. A season on your foot, forty four yards wide, right,

1168
00:59:22,160 --> 00:59:25,360
Speaker 4: and the world writes a story with no room for

1169
00:59:25,440 --> 00:59:30,880
Speaker 4: the hours you spent perfecting your craft. They'll remember the miss,

1170
00:59:32,120 --> 00:59:35,240
Speaker 4: not the miles walked, not the pressure on your back,

1171
00:59:36,360 --> 00:59:40,400
Speaker 4: not the heart it took to step there. But listen,

1172
00:59:41,560 --> 00:59:47,080
Speaker 4: you showed up, lined it up, you believed, and that's

1173
00:59:47,080 --> 00:59:49,959
Speaker 4: something no miss can take.

1174
00:59:51,040 --> 01:00:07,600
Speaker 2: That is the spoken word by mister o Jo Pachacho. Yeah, yeah, okay, thank.

1175
01:00:07,400 --> 01:00:15,520
Speaker 1: You, Okay, why are you laughing?

1176
01:00:15,880 --> 01:00:17,600
Speaker 2: Hey, I'm digging the hat though the head and eye.

1177
01:00:17,720 --> 01:00:18,560
Speaker 2: No messing with the hair.

1178
01:00:19,240 --> 01:00:21,920
Speaker 4: I appreciate that, Joe. I appreciate the head. Yeah, I

1179
01:00:21,920 --> 01:00:24,080
Speaker 4: appreciate that, Joe. It it took time. It took time

1180
01:00:24,120 --> 01:00:24,720
Speaker 4: for me to write that.

1181
01:00:24,800 --> 01:00:26,640
Speaker 2: Now it's gonna be really very thoughtful.

1182
01:00:27,600 --> 01:00:30,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, it took it. Yeah, I listen, I damn, this

1183
01:00:30,240 --> 01:00:31,160
Speaker 4: spent all day.

1184
01:00:32,160 --> 01:00:33,280
Speaker 2: Joe said.

1185
01:00:33,280 --> 01:00:51,920
Speaker 1: Oh Joe started poetic injustice.

1186
01:00:44,120 --> 01:00:48,360
Speaker 4: A little keep your hair black as that was you,

1187
01:00:48,480 --> 01:00:50,040
Speaker 4: my boy, lou.

1188
01:01:00,240 --> 01:01:18,480
Speaker 1: Say that, man, poet if you jumped he.

1189
01:01:08,840 --> 01:01:12,440
Speaker 4: Hey, listen, that was a serious moment. Man, y'all laughing

1190
01:01:12,480 --> 01:01:12,680
Speaker 4: at me?

1191
01:01:12,760 --> 01:01:13,000
Speaker 1: Man?

1192
01:01:13,600 --> 01:01:16,560
Speaker 2: Now, Hey, this is space. This is a safe space. Yeah.

1193
01:01:17,800 --> 01:01:21,360
Speaker 6: Every time, every time I be vulnerable, y'all, get y'all.

1194
01:01:24,880 --> 01:01:29,240
Speaker 2: We judge you. Not at least you be judged, right.

1195
01:01:29,560 --> 01:01:30,959
Speaker 4: Right, whatever that means?

1196
01:01:32,080 --> 01:01:34,400
Speaker 2: Hey, we ain't laughing. Ask you were laughing? Witch?

1197
01:01:34,440 --> 01:01:35,080
Speaker 1: You laugh?

1198
01:01:36,240 --> 01:01:42,160
Speaker 2: You got messed up? Man? Oh lord that birthday?

1199
01:01:44,680 --> 01:01:48,000
Speaker 4: Hey? Hold on, hey, y'all, yeah that's messed up.

1200
01:01:48,040 --> 01:01:48,280
Speaker 1: Man.

1201
01:01:48,560 --> 01:01:52,680
Speaker 4: Hey, I got a joke. I got a joke. Joe,

1202
01:01:52,680 --> 01:01:53,240
Speaker 4: You ready, joke?

1203
01:01:53,360 --> 01:01:54,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm ready, I'm ready.

1204
01:01:54,360 --> 01:01:59,880
Speaker 4: Come on, Hey, Chack, what do you call fake spaghetti?

1205
01:02:03,320 --> 01:02:04,240
Speaker 2: Fakes spaghetti?

1206
01:02:11,960 --> 01:02:12,200
Speaker 1: Real?

1207
01:02:17,120 --> 01:02:18,080
Speaker 2: You got anything, Joe?

1208
01:02:20,880 --> 01:02:22,720
Speaker 5: I'll be feeling like I'll be knowing them, but they

1209
01:02:22,760 --> 01:02:28,360
Speaker 5: be outfield left someone, this dude, this dude, because fakes

1210
01:02:28,360 --> 01:02:34,720
Speaker 5: spaghet hold on with Joe fake spaghetti. Uh no, I

1211
01:02:34,720 --> 01:02:35,400
Speaker 5: ain't got nothing.

1212
01:02:35,440 --> 01:02:36,440
Speaker 2: What what you got? Joe?

1213
01:02:40,240 --> 01:02:43,960
Speaker 4: Fake spaghetti is called an impossible.

1214
01:02:48,360 --> 01:02:56,920
Speaker 2: Oh lord? He burstus bad here?

1215
01:03:00,200 --> 01:03:00,360
Speaker 1: Hm?

1216
01:03:01,880 --> 01:03:07,880
Speaker 2: May I just do it? Bro? Hey