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Speaker 2: What is going on everybody? How are we doing? John

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Speaker 2: Middlecoff three and Out podcast brought to you by my

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Speaker 2: not as well as the Lions, who get a massive

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Speaker 2: win save their season are now eight and five. The Cowboys,

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Speaker 2: we're terrible early kind of came storming back and then

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Speaker 2: ended up losing by fourteen points. But lou Ceedee Lamb

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Speaker 2: who concussion. George Pickens did not have this finest day

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Speaker 2: at the office, and we'll dive into that game, Big Ben.

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Speaker 2: app today. I was thinking about this tonight, you know,

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Speaker 2: when the game was I think twenty seven to nine

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Speaker 2: the fourth quarter, but then Detroit pulled again, with Dan

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Speaker 2: a nice play action shot to Amen Ross Saint Brown,

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Speaker 2: who essentially ice the game. When your back's against the

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Speaker 2: wall and the Lions back was against the wall. I

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Speaker 2: don't know about you, but we've all been through trying times.

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Speaker 2: I've been fired from a couple of jobs. My back's

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Speaker 2: been against the wall. I do think you got to

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Speaker 2: stand on two things. One thing that is one hundred

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Speaker 2: percent required for anyone, regardless of the industry you're in.

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Speaker 2: You gotta be mentally tough, right. You cannot mentally break

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Speaker 2: That's the only way to get out when you're in

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Speaker 2: a shitty situation professionally, and the Detroit Lions work in

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Speaker 2: that position. Tonight. They're back and their season was against

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Speaker 2: And I thought the game was set, or at least

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Speaker 2: I didn't accept all this money. I'm not one of

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Speaker 2: They're flying around, they're trying, they just have physical limitations.

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Speaker 2: But then it's like Jamiir Gibbs has to dominate in

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Speaker 2: And that's what happened because the one thing that's a

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Speaker 2: their best offensive players completely dominated tonight, and that was

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Speaker 2: Lions fans have DM me this like one thing that

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Speaker 2: you can't teach speed. I mean him and Jamior Gibbs.

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Speaker 2: George is like, I'm just chilling. I'm just chilling. Meanwhile,

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Speaker 2: a concussion, He's got one hundred and fifty yards. He's like, George,

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Speaker 2: They created that rule this year that both coaches want

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Speaker 2: you gotta just get a little star power of the

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Speaker 2: start running. First play Dak slant, George kind of I

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Speaker 2: don't know, doesn't stick his arm out, and you know,

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Speaker 2: you missed a couple of weeks. He's definitely out Monday.

427
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Speaker 2: It's like all of a sudden the Eagles. I mean,

428
00:23:24,119 --> 00:23:26,240
Speaker 2: I don't know where on the hierarchy of players, but

429
00:23:26,480 --> 00:23:28,920
Speaker 2: he sure is held near the top and in terms

430
00:23:28,960 --> 00:23:32,440
Speaker 2: of like most unblockable and unstoppable when he's on, he's

431
00:23:32,440 --> 00:23:35,159
Speaker 2: probably number one for the Philadelphia Eagles. Pretty big blow.

432
00:23:35,840 --> 00:23:38,000
Speaker 2: Now that wasn't news for them today. I think it

433
00:23:38,040 --> 00:23:42,280
Speaker 2: happened a couple of days ago. It broke to us civilians,

434
00:23:42,680 --> 00:23:46,199
Speaker 2: the public. But it's like I had a lot of

435
00:23:46,200 --> 00:23:48,159
Speaker 2: respect for the way most of the guys on Dallas,

436
00:23:48,200 --> 00:23:51,399
Speaker 2: Like I thought Dallas' effort was high, Like they were

437
00:23:51,480 --> 00:23:55,080
Speaker 2: left tackle. Who's a backup? Was happening a rough night.

438
00:23:55,320 --> 00:23:57,760
Speaker 2: He's a backup. They got some good pass rushers, Ay

439
00:23:57,840 --> 00:24:01,320
Speaker 2: Nutson like a super pass rusher. He's not gonna be

440
00:24:01,320 --> 00:24:04,520
Speaker 2: able to block them. I mean, Dak was getting punished tonight.

441
00:24:04,520 --> 00:24:07,359
Speaker 2: How many times was he sacked tonight? Five for fifty?

442
00:24:07,640 --> 00:24:09,480
Speaker 2: If I had to guess, I'd didn't see the final

443
00:24:09,560 --> 00:24:14,840
Speaker 2: numbers hit seventeen eighteen times. I mean, he was getting peppered.

444
00:24:15,440 --> 00:24:17,920
Speaker 2: And that's the thing. That's the thing in football. It's

445
00:24:18,000 --> 00:24:21,040
Speaker 2: like you're getting these big games, and tonight was a

446
00:24:21,160 --> 00:24:24,040
Speaker 2: massive game because this wasn't your typical Thursday night game.

447
00:24:24,040 --> 00:24:26,520
Speaker 2: They're both on normal rest because they played last Thursday.

448
00:24:27,000 --> 00:24:29,879
Speaker 2: Both these two teams. Now you know, the Cowboys have

449
00:24:30,040 --> 00:24:34,280
Speaker 2: this playoff life and the Lions have this holding on

450
00:24:34,359 --> 00:24:37,560
Speaker 2: to a thread of what has been a consistent playoff team.

451
00:24:38,520 --> 00:24:41,480
Speaker 2: And all of a sudden they meet tonight and I thought,

452
00:24:41,520 --> 00:24:43,320
Speaker 2: like ninety nine percent of the guys are just playing

453
00:24:43,320 --> 00:24:45,760
Speaker 2: their hair with their hair on fire and their balls off.

454
00:24:46,080 --> 00:24:48,399
Speaker 2: Some guys are better than others, so it looks better.

455
00:24:49,040 --> 00:24:52,280
Speaker 2: But the defining moment of Saint Brown and then the

456
00:24:52,400 --> 00:24:57,280
Speaker 2: kind of lackadaisical nature of George Pickens was on full display.

457
00:24:57,320 --> 00:25:00,160
Speaker 2: And this this is a business, and it's a There

458
00:25:00,160 --> 00:25:02,600
Speaker 2: was no salary cap. Jerry could pay whoever, it wouldn't matter,

459
00:25:02,880 --> 00:25:04,720
Speaker 2: but there is. And you got to invest in the

460
00:25:04,800 --> 00:25:07,320
Speaker 2: right people and when you invest in the right people,

461
00:25:08,080 --> 00:25:11,040
Speaker 2: you know, when the tough times hit, those are the

462
00:25:11,080 --> 00:25:13,439
Speaker 2: type guys that come through. That's why the Chiefs have

463
00:25:13,480 --> 00:25:18,720
Speaker 2: had so much success because they're guys mentally and physically.

464
00:25:18,880 --> 00:25:23,080
Speaker 2: Obviously they're talented, but they're mentally and physically so tough. Right,

465
00:25:23,119 --> 00:25:26,320
Speaker 2: all those Patriot teams help. They didn't even have like

466
00:25:26,480 --> 00:25:29,240
Speaker 2: the best players. How many Hall of Famers did they

467
00:25:29,240 --> 00:25:32,440
Speaker 2: have in the second iteration of the Dynasty from twenty

468
00:25:32,680 --> 00:25:37,440
Speaker 2: twelve to nineteen Tom and Gronk that was kind of it.

469
00:25:37,920 --> 00:25:39,880
Speaker 2: But they had a ton of guys who were tough

470
00:25:39,920 --> 00:25:43,640
Speaker 2: at shit, smartest shit, and when it came to the game,

471
00:25:43,720 --> 00:25:46,560
Speaker 2: you're gonna have to, you know, take their helmet and

472
00:25:46,560 --> 00:25:48,840
Speaker 2: their shoulder pads away. If they were fifty percent they

473
00:25:48,840 --> 00:25:51,239
Speaker 2: were on the field. And the Lions got a lot

474
00:25:51,240 --> 00:25:54,120
Speaker 2: of guys like that, and they deserve a lot of credit.

475
00:25:54,200 --> 00:25:56,560
Speaker 2: And listen, the Cowboys do too. I mean, Javonte Williams,

476
00:25:57,359 --> 00:26:01,280
Speaker 2: guys resurrected his career. He was guy runs that guy

477
00:26:01,400 --> 00:26:04,879
Speaker 2: runs hard. I have a lot of respect for I

478
00:26:04,920 --> 00:26:07,960
Speaker 2: think a lot of people, you know, definitely in the

479
00:26:08,080 --> 00:26:11,679
Speaker 2: NFL circles, UH fans, fantasy people, kind of wrote his

480
00:26:11,800 --> 00:26:15,840
Speaker 2: career off and he's he's had a good season. But

481
00:26:16,320 --> 00:26:18,520
Speaker 2: you know, I think some of their defensive awards showed

482
00:26:18,560 --> 00:26:21,879
Speaker 2: up to Night. Now, in fairness, how many teams have

483
00:26:21,960 --> 00:26:25,879
Speaker 2: guys that can run with with Gibbs and uh and

484
00:26:26,000 --> 00:26:28,640
Speaker 2: Jamis and Williams. And the answer is not many, right,

485
00:26:28,680 --> 00:26:30,680
Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know, Deon Sanders and ned Reied

486
00:26:30,720 --> 00:26:32,760
Speaker 2: aren't walking through that door, Like, what are you gonna

487
00:26:32,800 --> 00:26:36,000
Speaker 2: do when those guys are humming and you're not getting

488
00:26:36,040 --> 00:26:39,880
Speaker 2: I mean, the one way to slow down the Lions?

489
00:26:40,160 --> 00:26:42,440
Speaker 2: And this is what the Cowboys had been doing pretty good. Now,

490
00:26:42,440 --> 00:26:45,080
Speaker 2: Clowney was an active to Night. Was hit Jared Goff

491
00:26:45,160 --> 00:26:47,280
Speaker 2: Hitcher a couple times early in that game. They did,

492
00:26:47,960 --> 00:26:49,960
Speaker 2: and and it kind of derailed them a little bit.

493
00:26:50,560 --> 00:26:52,800
Speaker 2: I know, there was the one controversial moment about the

494
00:26:52,880 --> 00:26:57,479
Speaker 2: sack uh safety. They said the ball was out. It was,

495
00:26:58,520 --> 00:27:01,800
Speaker 2: it was iffy, it was. There were some shitty calls.

496
00:27:02,320 --> 00:27:05,600
Speaker 2: I've got to the point where it's like I have

497
00:27:05,680 --> 00:27:07,760
Speaker 2: such little respect, not for them as humans. I mean,

498
00:27:07,760 --> 00:27:09,040
Speaker 2: I'm sure there are a lot of good a lot

499
00:27:09,040 --> 00:27:11,639
Speaker 2: of good men, but God, most of these guys feel

500
00:27:11,680 --> 00:27:14,320
Speaker 2: really bad at their jobs and we got the technology,

501
00:27:14,359 --> 00:27:17,159
Speaker 2: how are we? I mean the PI on Ferguson At

502
00:27:17,200 --> 00:27:21,480
Speaker 2: the end there was the double the past interference on Pickens.

503
00:27:21,840 --> 00:27:23,440
Speaker 2: They would have put him at the one yard line,

504
00:27:23,480 --> 00:27:25,200
Speaker 2: but they called it like a double penalty. There was

505
00:27:25,200 --> 00:27:29,360
Speaker 2: also like a defensive holding or an offensive holding. It's

506
00:27:29,400 --> 00:27:32,400
Speaker 2: like what it was, hands to the face on Ferguson

507
00:27:32,480 --> 00:27:35,560
Speaker 2: or something. It's like, what what's going on here? And

508
00:27:35,600 --> 00:27:37,400
Speaker 2: this is the That's the one thing with the NFL.

509
00:27:37,960 --> 00:27:39,720
Speaker 2: They don't care. I mean they're laughing all the way

510
00:27:39,760 --> 00:27:43,840
Speaker 2: to the bank. They do not care. I see these clips.

511
00:27:43,880 --> 00:27:47,480
Speaker 2: I saw My hometown, Sacramento was not I grew up

512
00:27:47,480 --> 00:27:49,959
Speaker 2: in Davis, but right across the Couseway there was a

513
00:27:49,960 --> 00:27:53,160
Speaker 2: fan thrown out the other day for screaming at Zach

514
00:27:53,240 --> 00:27:56,600
Speaker 2: Levine for saying he paid money to sit in the

515
00:27:56,600 --> 00:28:00,840
Speaker 2: front row and he was disgusted watching him play, how

516
00:28:01,040 --> 00:28:04,080
Speaker 2: little he cared, how little effort he put on defense.

517
00:28:04,080 --> 00:28:06,560
Speaker 2: And the fan got thrown out, And I was thinking,

518
00:28:06,640 --> 00:28:09,240
Speaker 2: I don't think you guys realize how little the NBA

519
00:28:09,320 --> 00:28:13,320
Speaker 2: cares about you sitting wherever. They will throw anyone out.

520
00:28:13,520 --> 00:28:16,000
Speaker 2: They care about the television deals. That's where they make

521
00:28:16,040 --> 00:28:19,440
Speaker 2: their money. They don't give a shit about you. The NFL.

522
00:28:19,680 --> 00:28:23,200
Speaker 2: You could complain all the way, all night, all day.

523
00:28:23,760 --> 00:28:27,359
Speaker 2: Roger Goodell ain't losing an ounce asleep probably you know,

524
00:28:27,400 --> 00:28:29,879
Speaker 2: getting ready to go teet off at Augusta. They're probably

525
00:28:29,880 --> 00:28:32,679
Speaker 2: close for the winner, but he does not care. So

526
00:28:33,040 --> 00:28:36,040
Speaker 2: the officials. I'm not gonna get too caught up because

527
00:28:36,080 --> 00:28:38,959
Speaker 2: in most of these big games are just atrocious and

528
00:28:39,160 --> 00:28:41,360
Speaker 2: I don't really know what we can do. Like I said,

529
00:28:41,640 --> 00:28:43,479
Speaker 2: I think one of the big winners to night as

530
00:28:43,520 --> 00:28:46,000
Speaker 2: well as the Lions, had to be Philly because if

531
00:28:46,080 --> 00:28:50,120
Speaker 2: Dallas wins this game with Jalen being out, the pressure

532
00:28:50,160 --> 00:28:53,280
Speaker 2: on them come Monday night would have been a mens Now,

533
00:28:53,520 --> 00:28:57,280
Speaker 2: even if they lose, they still got a little breathing room.

534
00:28:57,920 --> 00:29:00,600
Speaker 2: It felt like when that came across, and I learned

535
00:29:00,640 --> 00:29:03,600
Speaker 2: to day when I was recording with Stucky, He's like,

536
00:29:03,680 --> 00:29:08,520
Speaker 2: Jalen Carter's out. I'm like Jalen Carter, Jalen Who It's like, yeah, shoulders,

537
00:29:08,840 --> 00:29:12,280
Speaker 2: like what I mean, that's that's a pretty big blow.

538
00:29:12,320 --> 00:29:15,040
Speaker 2: It's also just something to monitor, you know. Anytime a

539
00:29:15,040 --> 00:29:17,520
Speaker 2: guy first gets injured, sometimes it's Saint Brown. He's back

540
00:29:17,560 --> 00:29:20,280
Speaker 2: the next week. And sometimes we just don't see him

541
00:29:20,280 --> 00:29:22,600
Speaker 2: for like a month, so you just never know. That's

542
00:29:22,920 --> 00:29:26,920
Speaker 2: that's really concerning, and that's that's a problem, but it

543
00:29:27,000 --> 00:29:29,680
Speaker 2: is what it is. And now Philly, I mean, if

544
00:29:29,720 --> 00:29:32,480
Speaker 2: they win on Monday night against the Chargers, when you

545
00:29:32,520 --> 00:29:34,520
Speaker 2: look at their schedule, you'd be like, Okay, if they

546
00:29:34,560 --> 00:29:37,760
Speaker 2: can win that game on the road three thousand miles away,

547
00:29:38,280 --> 00:29:40,600
Speaker 2: they would feel I don't want to say a lock

548
00:29:40,680 --> 00:29:43,520
Speaker 2: lock because you just never know. Their things get weird fast,

549
00:29:43,880 --> 00:29:46,080
Speaker 2: but they would be in the complete driver's seat with

550
00:29:46,200 --> 00:29:52,400
Speaker 2: nine wins and the Cowboys only having six. Okay, a

551
00:29:52,440 --> 00:29:56,240
Speaker 2: couple of quick fugazist, we got a lot going on, okay,

552
00:29:58,840 --> 00:30:02,440
Speaker 2: really quick. On Big Ben. I saw he's got a podcast,

553
00:30:02,720 --> 00:30:05,320
Speaker 2: and I think he does in his basement, which looks enormous,

554
00:30:05,320 --> 00:30:10,160
Speaker 2: looks pretty bad Ass's probably got a big pad in Pittsburgh.

555
00:30:10,440 --> 00:30:12,719
Speaker 2: You know, there are some comments James Harrison said that

556
00:30:12,880 --> 00:30:17,160
Speaker 2: Tomlin's good, not great, big beds basically like he should

557
00:30:17,200 --> 00:30:20,800
Speaker 2: go coach Penn State. It's like, guys, I mean, I

558
00:30:20,840 --> 00:30:22,920
Speaker 2: don't know what your personal relationships are with the guy,

559
00:30:23,000 --> 00:30:24,880
Speaker 2: but both of you had a lot of successful with him.

560
00:30:25,440 --> 00:30:28,280
Speaker 2: It felt like kind of backhanded jabs at the guy,

561
00:30:28,640 --> 00:30:32,200
Speaker 2: but specifically the Penn State thing. I used to think,

562
00:30:32,280 --> 00:30:35,480
Speaker 2: like four years ago when they ended up hiring Lincoln Riley,

563
00:30:36,040 --> 00:30:39,640
Speaker 2: Mike Tomlin, if he had any interest, USC would be

564
00:30:39,640 --> 00:30:43,080
Speaker 2: a would be like an incredible spot for him, right

565
00:30:43,320 --> 00:30:46,000
Speaker 2: bright lights, big city. They paid Lincoln one hundred and

566
00:30:46,040 --> 00:30:49,520
Speaker 2: twenty million dollars. They would blow you away with cash.

567
00:30:49,680 --> 00:30:52,200
Speaker 2: You could live on the water. If he wanted to

568
00:30:52,200 --> 00:30:54,120
Speaker 2: do that, I think like he would. They were going

569
00:30:54,160 --> 00:30:57,280
Speaker 2: to the Big ten, he could dominate recruiting and it

570
00:30:57,320 --> 00:31:01,400
Speaker 2: would just be like a glamorous job. And he was

571
00:31:01,440 --> 00:31:04,280
Speaker 2: pissed off. I remember his I watched his press conference

572
00:31:04,320 --> 00:31:06,560
Speaker 2: when he was asked about it felt like he wanted

573
00:31:06,560 --> 00:31:08,760
Speaker 2: to take the microphone and throw it at the report.

574
00:31:08,920 --> 00:31:12,240
Speaker 2: He was offended, and I don't blame him. It's like, hey, motherfuckers,

575
00:31:12,400 --> 00:31:14,080
Speaker 2: I go to the playoffs every year in the National

576
00:31:14,080 --> 00:31:16,320
Speaker 2: Football League. You think I want to go to USC?

577
00:31:16,440 --> 00:31:18,840
Speaker 2: At the time was a complete embarrassment and coach college football?

578
00:31:18,880 --> 00:31:21,240
Speaker 2: Are you guys crazy? But I always said, like, hey,

579
00:31:21,280 --> 00:31:25,480
Speaker 2: it's USC unlimited money. Tomlin's kind of Hollywood. It would

580
00:31:25,480 --> 00:31:27,920
Speaker 2: work right now. I get it. If I was seeing him

581
00:31:27,920 --> 00:31:29,840
Speaker 2: I wouldn't want to go to the college either, but

582
00:31:29,960 --> 00:31:32,200
Speaker 2: bed going to Penn State. Like, hey Ben, you think

583
00:31:32,240 --> 00:31:36,479
Speaker 2: Mike Tomlin's gonna move to state college? Mike Tomlin? I mean,

584
00:31:36,480 --> 00:31:39,560
Speaker 2: there are multiple jobs open right now, the Tennessee Titans

585
00:31:39,600 --> 00:31:42,200
Speaker 2: of the New York Giants. If Mike Tomlin was quote

586
00:31:42,280 --> 00:31:45,920
Speaker 2: unquote available or was just on the street, he would

587
00:31:45,920 --> 00:31:48,480
Speaker 2: have been hired like three weeks ago by both. He

588
00:31:48,600 --> 00:31:51,360
Speaker 2: is going to be if he's available, the number one

589
00:31:51,440 --> 00:31:55,320
Speaker 2: candidate by a mile in this cycle, which I got

590
00:31:55,320 --> 00:31:58,120
Speaker 2: news for you ain't a great cycle. Google some of

591
00:31:58,160 --> 00:32:00,800
Speaker 2: the names, right, So it's a lot of Robert Solace,

592
00:32:00,880 --> 00:32:04,480
Speaker 2: who I like a lot as my defensive coordinator. I

593
00:32:04,480 --> 00:32:06,560
Speaker 2: think just immediately make him a head coach feels a

594
00:32:06,560 --> 00:32:10,400
Speaker 2: little risky to me. And I just think this notion

595
00:32:11,120 --> 00:32:13,000
Speaker 2: Big Ben's saying he should go coach Penn State. Say,

596
00:32:13,080 --> 00:32:17,360
Speaker 2: hey Ben, the Tennessee freaking Titans are a complete embarrassment.

597
00:32:17,400 --> 00:32:21,040
Speaker 2: They don't have a coach. You think Mike Tomlin, if

598
00:32:21,120 --> 00:32:23,880
Speaker 2: he's no longer wanted in Pittsburgh Steelers, the Tennessee Titans

599
00:32:23,920 --> 00:32:26,719
Speaker 2: wouldn't taken him, let alone the New York Giants. What

600
00:32:26,760 --> 00:32:29,840
Speaker 2: are we talking about now. I do think Penn State.

601
00:32:30,840 --> 00:32:33,680
Speaker 2: It also reflects one thing I think you've got to

602
00:32:33,720 --> 00:32:37,160
Speaker 2: be careful in life, is I see people getting very offended.

603
00:32:37,240 --> 00:32:41,800
Speaker 2: Like Jimmy Sexton runs college football. He's got too much power. No,

604
00:32:41,960 --> 00:32:45,160
Speaker 2: he just has all the power, because it shows you

605
00:32:45,200 --> 00:32:48,719
Speaker 2: how inept a lot of these different schools are at

606
00:32:48,800 --> 00:32:52,560
Speaker 2: understanding the business of football. He has the leverage because

607
00:32:52,600 --> 00:32:55,480
Speaker 2: he knows what he's doing. Clearly, a lot of these

608
00:32:55,520 --> 00:33:00,120
Speaker 2: athletic directors, most of them are kind of embarrassments. I

609
00:33:00,120 --> 00:33:03,960
Speaker 2: mean really, they're not like I think this notion. I'm

610
00:33:03,960 --> 00:33:05,760
Speaker 2: not saying all of them. They are clearly some high

611
00:33:05,840 --> 00:33:08,640
Speaker 2: level guys. There are also a lot of complete jokes.

612
00:33:09,320 --> 00:33:11,400
Speaker 2: No different, there are a lot of people in sports,

613
00:33:11,400 --> 00:33:15,120
Speaker 2: and maybe it's like this in other industries where it's like, oh,

614
00:33:15,240 --> 00:33:17,480
Speaker 2: just because this guy has a position. I mean, I've

615
00:33:17,480 --> 00:33:22,400
Speaker 2: heard stories about conference commissioners, athletic directors, how even successful

616
00:33:22,440 --> 00:33:24,960
Speaker 2: college head coaches. You'd be like, yeah, if you actually

617
00:33:25,040 --> 00:33:27,920
Speaker 2: knew how little he actually did and the people behind,

618
00:33:27,960 --> 00:33:30,200
Speaker 2: but he gets all the credits the way world kind

619
00:33:30,200 --> 00:33:33,200
Speaker 2: of works. But when you fire a guy, and there

620
00:33:33,240 --> 00:33:35,360
Speaker 2: have been a lot of rumors that Penn State really

621
00:33:35,400 --> 00:33:39,600
Speaker 2: pissed off Jimmy Sexton because the way they fired James Franklin.

622
00:33:40,120 --> 00:33:42,440
Speaker 2: And I don't know if you've checked lately, but they

623
00:33:42,480 --> 00:33:45,280
Speaker 2: don't have a football coach and they try to get

624
00:33:45,320 --> 00:33:47,800
Speaker 2: the BYU guy. Turns out the Crumble cookie, I mean

625
00:33:47,840 --> 00:33:52,080
Speaker 2: Crumble cookie is basically, you know, diabetes in a three

626
00:33:52,080 --> 00:33:55,160
Speaker 2: inch by three inch cookie. Google what's in those things?

627
00:33:55,160 --> 00:33:57,280
Speaker 2: Don't get me wrong, Fat guy at heart eating my

628
00:33:57,320 --> 00:34:00,440
Speaker 2: fair share of Crumble cookies after I saw this instant like,

629
00:34:00,440 --> 00:34:02,280
Speaker 2: I don't think I'm ever eating a Crumble cookie again.

630
00:34:02,560 --> 00:34:05,200
Speaker 2: Not great for you. That being said, they're like seventy

631
00:34:05,200 --> 00:34:08,560
Speaker 2: five dollars a cookie and the CEO of Crumble Cookie

632
00:34:09,200 --> 00:34:12,000
Speaker 2: printing money. Big BYU guy, and so he made sure

633
00:34:12,000 --> 00:34:14,040
Speaker 2: that they didn't steal his coach. And I thought, like,

634
00:34:14,200 --> 00:34:18,200
Speaker 2: well if Kline Sataki, who I'm pretty sure is LDS

635
00:34:18,200 --> 00:34:20,880
Speaker 2: Mormon guy, Like, I don't know why he would go

636
00:34:20,920 --> 00:34:23,279
Speaker 2: to Penn State stay at BUYU when they have an

637
00:34:23,360 --> 00:34:26,560
Speaker 2: unlimited amount of money, you know, potentially the number one

638
00:34:26,600 --> 00:34:28,920
Speaker 2: pick in the NBA draft. Do you know that he

639
00:34:28,920 --> 00:34:33,080
Speaker 2: didn't go to Kansas, Kentucky or Duke. He went to BUYU? Why?

640
00:34:33,160 --> 00:34:36,520
Speaker 2: Because they made him seven million dollars. Like money ain't

641
00:34:36,520 --> 00:34:38,520
Speaker 2: a big deal in the church. They got a lot

642
00:34:38,520 --> 00:34:42,319
Speaker 2: of coin. And you know Penn State, you piss off

643
00:34:42,360 --> 00:34:45,800
Speaker 2: the wrong person, right. One thing I learned early. Anyone

644
00:34:45,880 --> 00:34:49,400
Speaker 2: knows this. If they're in sales, who you know who's

645
00:34:49,480 --> 00:34:51,440
Speaker 2: the gatekeeper to the guy you want to talk to

646
00:34:51,960 --> 00:34:54,120
Speaker 2: or the lady you want to talk to. If it's

647
00:34:54,160 --> 00:34:56,520
Speaker 2: the assistant, you got to go through her. You better

648
00:34:56,520 --> 00:34:58,360
Speaker 2: figure out a way to create a relationship with that

649
00:34:58,400 --> 00:35:01,759
Speaker 2: assistant because that's the only way you're getting past that

650
00:35:01,840 --> 00:35:03,279
Speaker 2: gate to get to the person who's gonna have the

651
00:35:03,320 --> 00:35:06,640
Speaker 2: decision making power on what you want to sell them.

652
00:35:07,080 --> 00:35:10,440
Speaker 2: And I just think Jimmy Sexton is the gatekeeper. And

653
00:35:10,520 --> 00:35:12,319
Speaker 2: if you ain't playing the game. I remember when I

654
00:35:12,320 --> 00:35:14,719
Speaker 2: worked for the Eagles. One thing, Howie and I saw

655
00:35:14,760 --> 00:35:16,640
Speaker 2: this back then, and it's clearly been true for the

656
00:35:16,719 --> 00:35:21,680
Speaker 2: last decade plus. He's great with agents, especially the ones

657
00:35:21,719 --> 00:35:24,840
Speaker 2: that matter. Why they hold a lot of the cards.

658
00:35:25,320 --> 00:35:29,759
Speaker 2: You need to deal with them. Historically, GM's big fucking agents. Well,

659
00:35:29,760 --> 00:35:31,640
Speaker 2: it's like do you want the player or not? Because

660
00:35:31,680 --> 00:35:34,200
Speaker 2: if you think like the player's making the decision, it's

661
00:35:34,200 --> 00:35:35,960
Speaker 2: not the way it works. How Micah Parks has just

662
00:35:36,000 --> 00:35:37,960
Speaker 2: told you that guy just got one hundred and eighty

663
00:35:37,960 --> 00:35:42,040
Speaker 2: eight million dollars, Doctor Dave, I'm not dealing. That's the

664
00:35:42,040 --> 00:35:45,640
Speaker 2: way it works. So if you don't realize who's in power,

665
00:35:46,160 --> 00:35:49,160
Speaker 2: that's on you. And I don't fault them if they

666
00:35:49,200 --> 00:35:53,640
Speaker 2: wanted to fire James Franklin, but clearly it happened in

667
00:35:53,680 --> 00:35:59,680
Speaker 2: an emotional state and it looks to have backfired on

668
00:35:59,719 --> 00:36:02,120
Speaker 2: them because I don't know if you'd notice put Jimmy

669
00:36:02,160 --> 00:36:04,480
Speaker 2: Sexon placing guy over here, guy over there, guy over here,

670
00:36:04,520 --> 00:36:07,560
Speaker 2: guy over there. He in full control. And that's just

671
00:36:07,600 --> 00:36:10,719
Speaker 2: the way it is. That's the rules of engagement right now.

672
00:36:10,920 --> 00:36:13,480
Speaker 2: So if you're gonna play and everyone tries and I

673
00:36:13,560 --> 00:36:17,399
Speaker 2: know nothing about this guy beside what people write about

674
00:36:17,480 --> 00:36:19,920
Speaker 2: him in the Athletic or talked about him when he

675
00:36:20,080 --> 00:36:22,279
Speaker 2: fired James Franklin, or that he worked with Matt Ruled

676
00:36:22,280 --> 00:36:25,680
Speaker 2: in this eight packcraft. But you can't be that good

677
00:36:25,680 --> 00:36:27,720
Speaker 2: at your job if you find yourself in a position

678
00:36:27,840 --> 00:36:31,920
Speaker 2: like this at some quote unquote glamorous program. Mike Tomlin

679
00:36:32,000 --> 00:36:35,120
Speaker 2: would quit before he went and coached Penn State. I

680
00:36:35,160 --> 00:36:40,680
Speaker 2: do believe that another all time potential Fugasci again allegedly.

681
00:36:41,600 --> 00:36:43,880
Speaker 2: There have been rumors floating out there, and listen, there

682
00:36:43,880 --> 00:36:46,600
Speaker 2: are a lot of rumors and this is how you

683
00:36:46,640 --> 00:36:49,800
Speaker 2: know if you're deep in the SEC Twitter accounts, message boards.

684
00:36:50,200 --> 00:36:52,560
Speaker 2: A lot going on between Old Miss and LSU, A

685
00:36:52,600 --> 00:36:56,200
Speaker 2: lot of stories floating around out there, which makes me

686
00:36:56,280 --> 00:36:59,239
Speaker 2: love it that there is nothing like SEC football, I

687
00:36:59,239 --> 00:37:03,120
Speaker 2: mean really nothing. It just it warms my heart. And

688
00:37:03,200 --> 00:37:08,160
Speaker 2: there is a rumor that Juice Kiffen, who was allegedly

689
00:37:08,440 --> 00:37:12,520
Speaker 2: Lane's dog, is not actually his dog doesn't actually live

690
00:37:12,560 --> 00:37:15,120
Speaker 2: with Lane. Kiffen lives with a handler, and a lot

691
00:37:15,120 --> 00:37:16,640
Speaker 2: of people think that he's not going to take it

692
00:37:16,640 --> 00:37:21,200
Speaker 2: to LSU. And I do think if you are going

693
00:37:21,280 --> 00:37:26,280
Speaker 2: to promote like listen, Kirkhurbstreet, I think pisses some people

694
00:37:26,280 --> 00:37:27,960
Speaker 2: off at least based on the comments you'll see on

695
00:37:27,960 --> 00:37:31,480
Speaker 2: Twitter or social media. Taking his dog everywhere now, personally,

696
00:37:31,520 --> 00:37:34,759
Speaker 2: my wife loves it. She always says, what time is

697
00:37:34,920 --> 00:37:37,480
Speaker 2: college game Day on? I want to see Peter. But

698
00:37:37,560 --> 00:37:39,560
Speaker 2: the one thing, you know, whether you like that the

699
00:37:39,600 --> 00:37:41,759
Speaker 2: dog's able to travel with them to the Amazon Prime

700
00:37:41,800 --> 00:37:43,719
Speaker 2: games in college game Day and the game he's calling

701
00:37:43,760 --> 00:37:47,520
Speaker 2: that night, or you don't that is his freaking dog.

702
00:37:48,320 --> 00:37:52,319
Speaker 2: And listen, as any dog owner knows one, I like

703
00:37:52,400 --> 00:37:55,560
Speaker 2: dogs more than ninety nine percent of society, right. And

704
00:37:55,600 --> 00:37:58,840
Speaker 2: once you get a dog, whether you purchase or adopt,

705
00:37:58,960 --> 00:38:00,960
Speaker 2: or however you get the dog from a young age

706
00:38:01,440 --> 00:38:04,520
Speaker 2: or even like me who's comes into a dog's life

707
00:38:05,000 --> 00:38:07,000
Speaker 2: after she had had it forever, there is a love

708
00:38:07,040 --> 00:38:09,799
Speaker 2: in a bond there that's pretty special. Even going back

709
00:38:09,840 --> 00:38:13,560
Speaker 2: to the COVID Draft when we met Nike Belichick's dog.

710
00:38:13,880 --> 00:38:16,719
Speaker 2: You know what, no one's ever argued that that's Belichick's

711
00:38:16,760 --> 00:38:19,120
Speaker 2: fake dog, that he just used a fucker. No, that's

712
00:38:19,160 --> 00:38:21,319
Speaker 2: his dog. He lets out in the morning before he

713
00:38:21,320 --> 00:38:23,520
Speaker 2: goes to work, he comes home, he lets out at night.

714
00:38:23,600 --> 00:38:27,040
Speaker 2: He feeds it. Like, take some responsibility. Haven't a child yet,

715
00:38:27,040 --> 00:38:29,440
Speaker 2: but part of having a dog is a responsibility that

716
00:38:29,480 --> 00:38:31,360
Speaker 2: comes along with it. There are a lot of football

717
00:38:31,400 --> 00:38:33,759
Speaker 2: coaches that have dogs part of it too, Like you're

718
00:38:33,760 --> 00:38:36,160
Speaker 2: gonna be the family man. Well, sometimes guess what with

719
00:38:36,200 --> 00:38:38,399
Speaker 2: a dog? Your family chips in, Well, hey I can't

720
00:38:38,440 --> 00:38:40,239
Speaker 2: walk today, can you give it a walk? Can you

721
00:38:40,280 --> 00:38:42,600
Speaker 2: feed it? It's like, what do we got going on?

722
00:38:43,280 --> 00:38:45,719
Speaker 2: Because I haven't had a big issue with lame going

723
00:38:45,760 --> 00:38:48,279
Speaker 2: to LSU. The way he handled it, it was never

724
00:38:48,360 --> 00:38:51,920
Speaker 2: gonna be clean. It was actually, from my standpoint, pretty

725
00:38:51,920 --> 00:38:55,799
Speaker 2: and entertaining. But if you have a fake dog all

726
00:38:55,840 --> 00:39:01,719
Speaker 2: for social media and a Twitter account and just I'm

727
00:39:01,719 --> 00:39:03,680
Speaker 2: gonna judge you as kind of a d bag, I

728
00:39:03,840 --> 00:39:06,640
Speaker 2: really am. If it truly comes out and this story

729
00:39:06,680 --> 00:39:08,440
Speaker 2: is still you know, percolat, and we'll see how it

730
00:39:08,480 --> 00:39:10,600
Speaker 2: all ends up. If the dog's in his office at

731
00:39:10,719 --> 00:39:13,359
Speaker 2: LSU and starts staying at his house, I'll give him

732
00:39:13,360 --> 00:39:15,239
Speaker 2: a little bit of a pass. But as of right now,

733
00:39:15,680 --> 00:39:17,680
Speaker 2: the dog living with the handler, and you can't be like, well,

734
00:39:17,680 --> 00:39:20,239
Speaker 2: I'm a football coach, don't have much time. You're family,

735
00:39:20,280 --> 00:39:22,839
Speaker 2: those of you. Now, your son's in high school right,

736
00:39:23,080 --> 00:39:25,520
Speaker 2: your ex wife she living with you, what's going on there?

737
00:39:26,640 --> 00:39:29,600
Speaker 2: I just think that's got to be an all time fugazi.

738
00:39:29,640 --> 00:39:34,400
Speaker 2: You faked owning a dog for the pr and the publicity.

739
00:39:34,440 --> 00:39:36,799
Speaker 2: That's the first time that I will support the old

740
00:39:36,880 --> 00:39:40,239
Speaker 2: miss crowd of Come on, bro, that's that's pretty low.

741
00:39:41,400 --> 00:39:44,239
Speaker 2: And yeah, other than that, like like I said, I

742
00:39:44,400 --> 00:39:48,120
Speaker 2: right before I hit Polay today, I just heard this

743
00:39:48,280 --> 00:39:52,520
Speaker 2: crazy noise coming from pipes under my house, and I

744
00:39:52,640 --> 00:39:54,759
Speaker 2: told you about that water spill that I have the

745
00:39:54,800 --> 00:39:57,520
Speaker 2: other day out of my front yard. And for those

746
00:39:57,520 --> 00:39:59,400
Speaker 2: of you that don't, you know, own a house and

747
00:39:59,440 --> 00:40:01,319
Speaker 2: are renting some where, and sometimes you think, like I

748
00:40:01,360 --> 00:40:03,759
Speaker 2: want to own something. The power of being able to

749
00:40:03,800 --> 00:40:06,680
Speaker 2: call someone to help you. And I had to call

750
00:40:06,760 --> 00:40:10,319
Speaker 2: my my landscaper, Francisco, who's a badass. Since I moved

751
00:40:10,320 --> 00:40:12,759
Speaker 2: to this house, I've had about four different landscapers. My

752
00:40:12,800 --> 00:40:15,200
Speaker 2: buddy Jeff Fong, who I played golf with, Big Arkansas

753
00:40:15,280 --> 00:40:17,839
Speaker 2: guy can't be happy with the new coach, but he's

754
00:40:18,280 --> 00:40:20,560
Speaker 2: in the cal Pari so he's probably doing okay. Actually

755
00:40:20,560 --> 00:40:23,719
Speaker 2: a cowboy fan too, love loved me some. Jeffong hooked

756
00:40:23,719 --> 00:40:25,720
Speaker 2: me up with this guy, Francisco, and he's been a badass.

757
00:40:25,760 --> 00:40:27,600
Speaker 2: I call him. I sat Francisco, we got this, we

758
00:40:27,719 --> 00:40:29,360
Speaker 2: got this big leak. I told you guys about that.

759
00:40:30,320 --> 00:40:31,920
Speaker 2: And he comes out and I was like, okay, man,

760
00:40:32,040 --> 00:40:33,759
Speaker 2: just knock on my door or whatever if you find

761
00:40:33,760 --> 00:40:35,480
Speaker 2: out what's going on. I don't even know what to say.

762
00:40:35,600 --> 00:40:38,080
Speaker 2: And then all of a sudden, I hear in my

763
00:40:38,120 --> 00:40:41,759
Speaker 2: backyard he's like a meig oh, a meig oh, and

764
00:40:41,880 --> 00:40:45,720
Speaker 2: he's he's smiling. He's with I think one of his guys,

765
00:40:45,719 --> 00:40:48,160
Speaker 2: and they're both laughing. And I come out there. And

766
00:40:48,200 --> 00:40:49,799
Speaker 2: part of the reason I bought this house because we

767
00:40:49,880 --> 00:40:52,319
Speaker 2: kind of remodeled it. But he had already done a

768
00:40:52,320 --> 00:40:55,280
Speaker 2: big ass remodel. So he had like wiped out walls,

769
00:40:55,440 --> 00:40:58,320
Speaker 2: opened it up, put these big doors in the back

770
00:40:58,400 --> 00:41:00,839
Speaker 2: that can open up to the backyard. He had kind

771
00:41:00,840 --> 00:41:02,839
Speaker 2: of done part of the backyard, so he had done

772
00:41:02,840 --> 00:41:05,560
Speaker 2: a lot of leg work that made like if you

773
00:41:05,600 --> 00:41:09,359
Speaker 2: could just kind of do some cosmetic upgrades. He had

774
00:41:09,400 --> 00:41:11,720
Speaker 2: taken care of a lot of stuff. But the way

775
00:41:11,840 --> 00:41:17,640
Speaker 2: he remodeled the backyard is the is like the slope

776
00:41:17,680 --> 00:41:19,600
Speaker 2: of it kind of comes into the house, which is

777
00:41:19,600 --> 00:41:21,439
Speaker 2: not what you're supposed to do. But it doesn't rain

778
00:41:21,480 --> 00:41:23,279
Speaker 2: that much in Arizona, so it's not that big a deal.

779
00:41:23,719 --> 00:41:26,799
Speaker 2: And there's like sets of drains every like I don't know,

780
00:41:27,400 --> 00:41:30,080
Speaker 2: five feet, and so when it rains, if the water

781
00:41:30,120 --> 00:41:31,600
Speaker 2: comes to the house, it all drains in there and

782
00:41:31,680 --> 00:41:34,160
Speaker 2: comes out the front of the house. Well, I had

783
00:41:34,160 --> 00:41:37,279
Speaker 2: this guy, you know, I built this office in the backyard,

784
00:41:38,040 --> 00:41:40,319
Speaker 2: and I think they needed some water and they were

785
00:41:40,400 --> 00:41:44,560
Speaker 2: using the hose for dry wall or something, and this

786
00:41:44,680 --> 00:41:47,880
Speaker 2: crazy rainstorm came, so I think they were doing something

787
00:41:47,920 --> 00:41:50,000
Speaker 2: with the hose and they like took off, you know,

788
00:41:50,040 --> 00:41:52,200
Speaker 2: to find cover. It was like it was like a tornado,

789
00:41:53,000 --> 00:41:55,920
Speaker 2: and I guess they just forgot about it. So for

790
00:41:56,000 --> 00:41:59,120
Speaker 2: two days it was just my hose. And so Francisco

791
00:41:59,200 --> 00:42:01,799
Speaker 2: shows me the hoe is just onto the drain and

792
00:42:01,840 --> 00:42:03,520
Speaker 2: it's just coming out the front yard. I even had

793
00:42:03,560 --> 00:42:06,680
Speaker 2: like this h o. A security guard come by and

794
00:42:06,719 --> 00:42:08,880
Speaker 2: put like a put a flag. He's like, you got

795
00:42:09,000 --> 00:42:10,279
Speaker 2: to take care of this. I'm like, I don't know

796
00:42:10,280 --> 00:42:13,720
Speaker 2: what's going on, and it turned in fairness, I didn't

797
00:42:13,760 --> 00:42:15,640
Speaker 2: do it. So it's like, why would I even look

798
00:42:15,640 --> 00:42:17,680
Speaker 2: at the hose. But when he showed me that it

799
00:42:17,760 --> 00:42:20,879
Speaker 2: was just the hose on in the drain going out

800
00:42:20,920 --> 00:42:24,200
Speaker 2: to the front yard and looking like, yeah, it was

801
00:42:24,200 --> 00:42:29,600
Speaker 2: pretty embarrassing. So you know, sometimes just do a primeter

802
00:42:29,719 --> 00:42:46,440
Speaker 2: check and you'll figure out this not actually a major problem. Okay,

803
00:42:46,480 --> 00:42:50,240
Speaker 2: back at it again after a crazy, crazy holiday week

804
00:42:50,719 --> 00:42:53,360
Speaker 2: where we missed him. We were busy, we had a

805
00:42:53,400 --> 00:42:55,919
Speaker 2: lot of stuff going on. But he's back and he's

806
00:42:55,920 --> 00:43:00,239
Speaker 2: gonna help me because I'm not quite as deaf fully

807
00:43:00,280 --> 00:43:02,400
Speaker 2: not even close to as sick as him. Like I

808
00:43:02,760 --> 00:43:06,160
Speaker 2: just we're gonna dive into some college football because this

809
00:43:06,239 --> 00:43:08,279
Speaker 2: weekend might might we might be coming down the home

810
00:43:08,320 --> 00:43:11,600
Speaker 2: stretch of these conference championship games, but we do have

811
00:43:11,640 --> 00:43:15,520
Speaker 2: them this week and there's some big implications. And there

812
00:43:15,560 --> 00:43:17,400
Speaker 2: are a couple of games that have teams that are

813
00:43:17,480 --> 00:43:19,799
Speaker 2: gonna make it that I know nothing about besides that

814
00:43:19,800 --> 00:43:22,040
Speaker 2: their coaches are clearly pretty good because they just got

815
00:43:22,040 --> 00:43:24,640
Speaker 2: big jobs. But back here with Stucky, all of our

816
00:43:24,719 --> 00:43:27,240
Speaker 2: lines here are presented by our friends at hard Rock Bet,

817
00:43:27,760 --> 00:43:30,120
Speaker 2: and uh, you know, Stucky out, I'm looking at a game,

818
00:43:30,160 --> 00:43:32,240
Speaker 2: and I know you know a lot about these teams.

819
00:43:32,239 --> 00:43:34,560
Speaker 2: And I only know a lot about Tulane because I've

820
00:43:34,560 --> 00:43:36,759
Speaker 2: been hearing about their coach forever. I only know about

821
00:43:36,840 --> 00:43:40,400
Speaker 2: North Texas. Now. These two teams have been good, especially Tulane.

822
00:43:40,400 --> 00:43:43,000
Speaker 2: Now this is their second coach that they have just put.

823
00:43:43,120 --> 00:43:45,320
Speaker 2: Didn't Willie Fritz was their coach who went to Houston

824
00:43:45,760 --> 00:43:49,960
Speaker 2: and now Summer All who by all accounts is pretty legit.

825
00:43:50,040 --> 00:43:52,759
Speaker 2: I know, you know, Florida is a little hesitant to

826
00:43:52,760 --> 00:43:56,040
Speaker 2: their fan base because they're saying it's Billy Napier two

827
00:43:56,040 --> 00:43:59,000
Speaker 2: point zero. This to me feels a little different. I mean,

828
00:43:59,000 --> 00:44:02,319
Speaker 2: this guy, I don't know, I'm buying stocking this guy again,

829
00:44:02,400 --> 00:44:04,680
Speaker 2: just based on a couple of press conferences and texting around.

830
00:44:04,719 --> 00:44:07,120
Speaker 2: And it did also feel like he could have taken

831
00:44:07,200 --> 00:44:10,560
Speaker 2: three different SEC jobs if you wanted Arkansas, definitely Auburn

832
00:44:11,160 --> 00:44:13,920
Speaker 2: in Florida. Now both these guys North Texas coach went

833
00:44:13,960 --> 00:44:16,600
Speaker 2: to Oklahoma State, right and the winner of this game

834
00:44:16,680 --> 00:44:19,560
Speaker 2: is in So these guys have been you know, I

835
00:44:19,560 --> 00:44:21,600
Speaker 2: don't want to say he's dipping their toes in not

836
00:44:21,680 --> 00:44:23,960
Speaker 2: his focus, but like they've had press conference, they've been

837
00:44:24,000 --> 00:44:27,080
Speaker 2: flying around though Oklahoma State hired him what a couple

838
00:44:27,120 --> 00:44:28,759
Speaker 2: of weeks ago, So it's a little different than this

839
00:44:29,160 --> 00:44:31,919
Speaker 2: Summer All was was he introduced on Monday.

840
00:44:32,160 --> 00:44:35,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, he had to do a presser like Morris hasn't

841
00:44:35,200 --> 00:44:38,400
Speaker 1: done any of that. I would have liked summer summers

842
00:44:38,760 --> 00:44:40,759
Speaker 1: went to Kentucky, used to coach at Kentucky's. It was

843
00:44:40,800 --> 00:44:47,120
Speaker 1: a ga was an i'mbacker coach co DC. I don't know,

844
00:44:47,160 --> 00:44:49,160
Speaker 1: six seven years ago, I would have liked Kentucky to

845
00:44:49,200 --> 00:44:51,799
Speaker 1: get them. So I'm a believer in Summer All as well.

846
00:44:52,880 --> 00:44:56,120
Speaker 1: I think it was a good hire that was like

847
00:44:56,160 --> 00:45:01,279
Speaker 1: who I wanted the Kentucky Kentucky to get after the inevitable.

848
00:45:01,320 --> 00:45:03,319
Speaker 1: That's what I've been saying for like the past couple

849
00:45:03,320 --> 00:45:07,640
Speaker 1: of years after the inevitable Stoops departure. But yeah, so

850
00:45:08,040 --> 00:45:11,800
Speaker 1: I'll the funny thing is, I'll try to give you a,

851
00:45:12,480 --> 00:45:14,200
Speaker 1: you know, a high level view of how this is,

852
00:45:15,239 --> 00:45:17,000
Speaker 1: how this all all these games playing to the College

853
00:45:17,040 --> 00:45:20,440
Speaker 1: Wawall Playoff because it is pretty interesting. I think inevitably

854
00:45:20,480 --> 00:45:24,360
Speaker 1: it's gonna end end up leading to a expanded College

855
00:45:24,360 --> 00:45:27,160
Speaker 1: Wall Playoff with sixteen teams. But that's a discussion for

856
00:45:27,200 --> 00:45:31,879
Speaker 1: another day. One interesting nugget is the quarterbacks for Tulane

857
00:45:32,600 --> 00:45:37,759
Speaker 1: in North Texas last year are the starting quarterbacks in

858
00:45:37,840 --> 00:45:41,800
Speaker 1: the ACC Championship game. Mensa came from Tulane and Morris

859
00:45:41,840 --> 00:45:46,239
Speaker 1: came from North Texas. North Texas their quarterback. Now is

860
00:45:46,239 --> 00:45:48,600
Speaker 1: this kid Drew Meskamaker, who didn't start a single varsity

861
00:45:48,600 --> 00:45:51,319
Speaker 1: game in high school, walked on at North Texas and

862
00:45:51,600 --> 00:45:54,960
Speaker 1: leads the nation and passing yards. The North Texas offense

863
00:45:55,040 --> 00:45:58,040
Speaker 1: is electric. I mean, this team can put up fifty

864
00:45:58,360 --> 00:46:00,839
Speaker 1: on anybody.

865
00:45:59,800 --> 00:46:02,319
Speaker 2: And was like Cade club. Nick the guy starting over

866
00:46:02,360 --> 00:46:03,880
Speaker 2: I mean, how does he now start a game? Was

867
00:46:03,920 --> 00:46:05,960
Speaker 2: he at a powerhouse program? How's that even possible?

868
00:46:08,320 --> 00:46:09,839
Speaker 1: I'm trying to think, who's trying to put you on.

869
00:46:09,800 --> 00:46:11,759
Speaker 2: The spot here. I just think that's insane and not

870
00:46:12,239 --> 00:46:14,240
Speaker 2: what you would have to be if you're a college

871
00:46:14,320 --> 00:46:16,879
Speaker 2: level quarterback to be on a team with a blue

872
00:46:16,960 --> 00:46:21,040
Speaker 2: chip quarterback or like the coach's son. I'm Matt Castle

873
00:46:21,040 --> 00:46:22,040
Speaker 2: of high school football.

874
00:46:22,840 --> 00:46:25,880
Speaker 1: No, it was this guy. I think it was Deuce

875
00:46:25,920 --> 00:46:30,040
Speaker 1: Adams did not. It wasn't anyone who's who's like turned

876
00:46:30,080 --> 00:46:32,480
Speaker 1: out to anything. But he didn't start. He had a

877
00:46:32,520 --> 00:46:34,880
Speaker 1: walk on at North Texas so but he leads the

878
00:46:34,960 --> 00:46:39,200
Speaker 1: nation in passing yards and North Texas also has an

879
00:46:39,200 --> 00:46:42,400
Speaker 1: electric I mean their offense. He watched their offense. It

880
00:46:42,520 --> 00:46:46,200
Speaker 1: is Morris is considered like a quarterback whisper offense, a guru.

881
00:46:46,760 --> 00:46:49,640
Speaker 1: But Kavib Hawkins, their freshman running back, is also a stud.

882
00:46:49,719 --> 00:46:52,279
Speaker 1: So they're really well balanced. Their defense, you can run

883
00:46:52,280 --> 00:46:55,000
Speaker 1: on them a bit, but they hired a defensive coordinator

884
00:46:55,040 --> 00:46:57,840
Speaker 1: from sam Houston State last year, brought him in with

885
00:46:57,880 --> 00:46:59,680
Speaker 1: a lot of the Sam Houston players, and Sam Houston's

886
00:46:59,680 --> 00:47:03,160
Speaker 1: defense lat year was really good defense, like predicated on

887
00:47:03,480 --> 00:47:06,759
Speaker 1: this position lists. They kind of want to force turnovers

888
00:47:08,480 --> 00:47:10,240
Speaker 1: and they're pretty good against the past. But their defense

889
00:47:10,280 --> 00:47:12,320
Speaker 1: is much improved because in recent seasons, the North Texas

890
00:47:12,360 --> 00:47:14,879
Speaker 1: offense has been electric, but their defense been really bad.

891
00:47:14,920 --> 00:47:19,719
Speaker 1: Now their defense is much more respectable. Tulane's quarterback is

892
00:47:19,800 --> 00:47:22,520
Speaker 1: Jake Retz laugh got kicked out of BYU and then

893
00:47:22,640 --> 00:47:25,319
Speaker 1: came over to tu Lane. North Texas is the better team,

894
00:47:25,360 --> 00:47:27,480
Speaker 1: but this is on the road. Tulane gets to host

895
00:47:27,520 --> 00:47:32,640
Speaker 1: this game. The winner of that game will be in

896
00:47:32,719 --> 00:47:38,240
Speaker 1: the College Football Playoff the top the five highest rated

897
00:47:38,560 --> 00:47:43,600
Speaker 1: conference championship. Conference champions get automatic bids. So you know,

898
00:47:43,640 --> 00:47:47,040
Speaker 1: you have your sec you have your Big twelve, you

899
00:47:47,120 --> 00:47:51,680
Speaker 1: have your Big ten, and then you're gonna have you're

900
00:47:51,920 --> 00:47:53,799
Speaker 1: You're gonna have the winner of the American between North

901
00:47:53,840 --> 00:47:58,920
Speaker 1: Texas and Tulane. And then if Virginia beats Duke and

902
00:47:59,239 --> 00:48:02,000
Speaker 1: Duke's i mean five losses on the season, but if

903
00:48:02,080 --> 00:48:05,680
Speaker 1: Virginia beats Duke, They're in. They're the ACC champ. Duke's

904
00:48:05,719 --> 00:48:07,600
Speaker 1: defense has been horrendous, I mean, the drop off from

905
00:48:07,640 --> 00:48:10,560
Speaker 1: last year this year has been stunning. Their defense can't

906
00:48:10,600 --> 00:48:12,560
Speaker 1: stop anybody. I mean they won last week. They won

907
00:48:12,640 --> 00:48:16,400
Speaker 1: a crazy tiebreaker. It really should be Miami here. But

908
00:48:16,719 --> 00:48:20,440
Speaker 1: if Virginia wins, they're in. If Duke wins, I don't

909
00:48:20,480 --> 00:48:23,640
Speaker 1: know if they're necessarily in. They have five losses. They

910
00:48:23,719 --> 00:48:28,440
Speaker 1: lost to tu Lane, they lost to Yukon, so it

911
00:48:28,480 --> 00:48:29,839
Speaker 1: has not been a great season for due.

912
00:48:30,160 --> 00:48:32,920
Speaker 2: They should not be in win agree now, But.

913
00:48:33,080 --> 00:48:36,239
Speaker 1: Could I see the committee saying, all right, well, now,

914
00:48:36,239 --> 00:48:39,080
Speaker 1: they got to win over a ranked Virginia team. Their

915
00:48:39,120 --> 00:48:42,400
Speaker 1: schedule was harder than JMU because JMU is the other team.

916
00:48:42,760 --> 00:48:48,640
Speaker 1: If Duke wins, many presume that JMU. Assuming JMU beats Troy,

917
00:48:49,080 --> 00:48:52,799
Speaker 1: that JMU would then go in and JMU is a

918
00:48:53,200 --> 00:48:56,120
Speaker 1: twenty three point favorite. I actually bet JMU against Troy.

919
00:48:56,239 --> 00:48:58,719
Speaker 1: It's a really good matchup. Troy cannot run the ball,

920
00:48:59,600 --> 00:49:02,200
Speaker 1: they're pass protection. They lost both their tackles earlier in

921
00:49:02,200 --> 00:49:04,239
Speaker 1: the season. They have two freshman tackles jam you can

922
00:49:04,280 --> 00:49:07,360
Speaker 1: really get after the quarterback. Troy's not a very good team,

923
00:49:08,239 --> 00:49:10,120
Speaker 1: and this is at home. JMU knows they need to

924
00:49:10,200 --> 00:49:11,759
Speaker 1: run it up, and they have run it up a

925
00:49:11,960 --> 00:49:14,600
Speaker 1: number of times this year. They've I think they have

926
00:49:14,719 --> 00:49:16,960
Speaker 1: five league wins by more than twenty five points on

927
00:49:17,000 --> 00:49:20,400
Speaker 1: the season, they're going to keep their foot on the gas.

928
00:49:21,280 --> 00:49:23,720
Speaker 1: So I did bet JMU. But it's a fascinating discussion

929
00:49:23,719 --> 00:49:31,040
Speaker 1: between JMU and if Duke wins. Now. The other fascinating

930
00:49:31,280 --> 00:49:39,279
Speaker 1: part of this entire weekend is let's say BYU. You know,

931
00:49:39,600 --> 00:49:45,279
Speaker 1: I if BYU loses, they're out, and then all of

932
00:49:45,320 --> 00:49:51,200
Speaker 1: a sudden, you have Notre ed Aime and Miami right

933
00:49:51,239 --> 00:49:55,200
Speaker 1: next to each other on in the rankings line.

934
00:49:55,280 --> 00:49:56,520
Speaker 2: So do they.

935
00:49:58,320 --> 00:50:00,719
Speaker 1: Would they then say, oh, well, the head to head

936
00:50:00,760 --> 00:50:05,120
Speaker 1: now matters and put Miami in. Another interesting angle is

937
00:50:06,480 --> 00:50:09,759
Speaker 1: they might also like because there's politics involve in this,

938
00:50:09,840 --> 00:50:13,879
Speaker 1: they might also do that because say Duke wins, and

939
00:50:14,960 --> 00:50:18,080
Speaker 1: they might say to the ACC, okay, you don't have

940
00:50:18,120 --> 00:50:21,960
Speaker 1: a team then, so we'll put Miami in discussions on

941
00:50:22,000 --> 00:50:24,080
Speaker 1: the back end, and then Notre Dame gets bumped out.

942
00:50:24,280 --> 00:50:25,719
Speaker 1: I think Notre Dame is one of the best five

943
00:50:25,719 --> 00:50:29,400
Speaker 1: teams in the country, but if they lost to Miami,

944
00:50:29,600 --> 00:50:32,680
Speaker 1: they don't have great wins on the resume. They're not

945
00:50:32,680 --> 00:50:34,400
Speaker 1: going to play this weekend.

946
00:50:34,000 --> 00:50:36,399
Speaker 2: If they had two spots, they would just put those

947
00:50:36,440 --> 00:50:38,320
Speaker 2: two teams in. But more likely it's just gonna be

948
00:50:38,360 --> 00:50:39,600
Speaker 2: the one spot, So they're kind.

949
00:50:39,480 --> 00:50:41,960
Speaker 1: Of yes or but if you BYU wins, they might

950
00:50:41,960 --> 00:50:45,960
Speaker 1: bump them both. Now that might be what the committee

951
00:50:46,960 --> 00:50:49,319
Speaker 1: is rooting for. I think that would be bad for Like,

952
00:50:49,360 --> 00:50:51,400
Speaker 1: I think Miami is a top ten team overall, I

953
00:50:51,400 --> 00:50:53,520
Speaker 1: think Notre Dame is a top five team. I think

954
00:50:53,560 --> 00:50:55,799
Speaker 1: the actual bracket in the playoff will be better off

955
00:50:55,800 --> 00:50:58,879
Speaker 1: if both those teams are in it instead of you know,

956
00:50:59,719 --> 00:51:03,200
Speaker 1: two group of five teams. But it is what it is.

957
00:51:03,400 --> 00:51:08,360
Speaker 1: If you're a Notre Dame fan, you're rooting for I

958
00:51:08,360 --> 00:51:10,759
Speaker 1: think you're rooting for. You want to also want to

959
00:51:10,840 --> 00:51:15,880
Speaker 1: root for Boise State because it's a small it's a

960
00:51:15,880 --> 00:51:20,720
Speaker 1: small point, but the Notre name did beat Boise earlier

961
00:51:20,719 --> 00:51:24,279
Speaker 1: this year. Boise State now is hosting the Mountain West

962
00:51:24,320 --> 00:51:27,600
Speaker 1: championship game against UNLV. That was a four way tiewerker

963
00:51:27,640 --> 00:51:30,040
Speaker 1: that came down the computers. But Boise State's getting its quarterback,

964
00:51:30,040 --> 00:51:34,799
Speaker 1: Mattocks Mattson back this week, so that's another It could

965
00:51:34,840 --> 00:51:36,680
Speaker 1: be like a feather in the cap of Notre Dame saying,

966
00:51:36,719 --> 00:51:38,279
Speaker 1: how hey, one of our wins also is against the

967
00:51:38,280 --> 00:51:41,000
Speaker 1: Mountain West champion. Now the Mountain West is way down

968
00:51:41,000 --> 00:51:42,440
Speaker 1: this year. They have no chance of getting in the

969
00:51:42,440 --> 00:51:47,600
Speaker 1: college wallcloff, but fascinating storylines across the board, and then

970
00:51:47,600 --> 00:51:52,080
Speaker 1: you have some rematches in some really good games. Texas Tech.

971
00:51:52,080 --> 00:51:55,360
Speaker 1: Byu mentioned that Texas texts twelve and a half thirteen

972
00:51:55,400 --> 00:51:58,239
Speaker 1: point favorite. I don't know if BYU can move the

973
00:51:58,239 --> 00:52:00,759
Speaker 1: ball on Texas Techno the grant. The first meeting was

974
00:52:00,760 --> 00:52:03,160
Speaker 1: in wind outdoors in Lubbock. This will be indoors and

975
00:52:03,239 --> 00:52:06,799
Speaker 1: Jerry World. But you just can't run on Texas Tech.

976
00:52:06,840 --> 00:52:08,959
Speaker 1: And nobody can run on Texas Tech. Their defensive line

977
00:52:09,040 --> 00:52:13,160
Speaker 1: is like top of the SEC caliber with what they

978
00:52:13,160 --> 00:52:17,839
Speaker 1: did out in the portal. Their linebackers are really good

979
00:52:17,960 --> 00:52:20,200
Speaker 1: and I'm not sure b why you can block them.

980
00:52:20,680 --> 00:52:22,640
Speaker 1: So we'll see. I mean, they could not. They could

981
00:52:22,640 --> 00:52:26,120
Speaker 1: barely move the ball in the first meeting. Georgia Alabama

982
00:52:26,200 --> 00:52:29,799
Speaker 1: rematch should be fascinating. Georgia arguably should have won that

983
00:52:29,840 --> 00:52:32,520
Speaker 1: first game. Alabama has some key injuries. Georgia lost at

984
00:52:32,560 --> 00:52:34,600
Speaker 1: center last week and for some reason they couldn't score

985
00:52:34,600 --> 00:52:37,880
Speaker 1: on Georgia Tech. Maybe Drew Bobo their center is that important,

986
00:52:37,920 --> 00:52:40,920
Speaker 1: but their run game created without them. But they should

987
00:52:40,920 --> 00:52:42,600
Speaker 1: have won that first game, and they average almost seven

988
00:52:42,680 --> 00:52:45,919
Speaker 1: yards per play and they dropped the bomb that would

989
00:52:45,920 --> 00:52:47,759
Speaker 1: have won the game. They had the ball fourth and won.

990
00:52:47,840 --> 00:52:50,840
Speaker 1: Alabama didn't score in the second half of that game.

991
00:52:51,280 --> 00:52:55,839
Speaker 1: This game is pretty if everything goes according to and look,

992
00:52:55,920 --> 00:52:59,960
Speaker 1: Kirby's been owned by Alabama. I mean he's one in seven. Again,

993
00:53:00,000 --> 00:53:04,560
Speaker 1: it's Alabama. If everything goes according to how these matchups

994
00:53:04,560 --> 00:53:07,239
Speaker 1: have gone and how every Georgia and most Alabama games go,

995
00:53:07,360 --> 00:53:11,440
Speaker 1: this game is pretty easy to predict. Alabama gets out,

996
00:53:11,520 --> 00:53:14,080
Speaker 1: jumps out to a lead. They're really good in the

997
00:53:14,080 --> 00:53:16,120
Speaker 1: first quarters under the bor, they usually have a really

998
00:53:16,160 --> 00:53:20,040
Speaker 1: good script. We've seen them jump out against Georgia number

999
00:53:20,080 --> 00:53:24,680
Speaker 1: of times. Georgia also falls behind whenever they play a

1000
00:53:24,719 --> 00:53:28,240
Speaker 1: competent opponent, and then they come back because Kirby smart

1001
00:53:28,640 --> 00:53:32,000
Speaker 1: is the best in game adjuster in college football. So

1002
00:53:32,040 --> 00:53:34,400
Speaker 1: what makes the most sense here is Alabama gets out

1003
00:53:34,440 --> 00:53:36,279
Speaker 1: to the lead and then I'll be looking to bet

1004
00:53:36,280 --> 00:53:39,120
Speaker 1: Georgia live. And then you have Ohio State Indiana, two

1005
00:53:39,200 --> 00:53:43,279
Speaker 1: undefeateds playing in Indianapolis. I think that's gonna be very

1006
00:53:43,320 --> 00:53:47,879
Speaker 1: pro heavy Indian Indiana crowd. Obviously, the location, Ohio State

1007
00:53:47,920 --> 00:53:50,600
Speaker 1: fans probably don't want to travel this I mean that

1008
00:53:50,840 --> 00:53:53,920
Speaker 1: they're out for national champions and national championships. They probably

1009
00:53:53,920 --> 00:53:56,319
Speaker 1: want to book tickets to a college football playoff game.

1010
00:53:56,600 --> 00:53:59,680
Speaker 1: This game means a lot more to Indiana, so I

1011
00:53:59,680 --> 00:54:03,319
Speaker 1: could seed taking taking the points with Indiana. I'm not

1012
00:54:03,360 --> 00:54:05,520
Speaker 1: sure like Ohio State needs to or wants to show

1013
00:54:05,520 --> 00:54:09,680
Speaker 1: everything here. Indiana probably does, like, hey, how would Ryan

1014
00:54:09,760 --> 00:54:10,399
Speaker 1: day at this point?

1015
00:54:10,480 --> 00:54:12,279
Speaker 2: And once you got the Michigan thing off his back,

1016
00:54:12,320 --> 00:54:13,759
Speaker 2: this game really doesn't mean much.

1017
00:54:13,840 --> 00:54:15,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, maybe a little bit of an emotional letdown too

1018
00:54:15,760 --> 00:54:18,759
Speaker 1: after that Michigan game there. They've been load managing all year.

1019
00:54:18,800 --> 00:54:21,000
Speaker 1: They have the slowest they're the slowest paced team in

1020
00:54:21,040 --> 00:54:26,160
Speaker 1: college football there. They've basically played two fewer games than

1021
00:54:26,160 --> 00:54:28,160
Speaker 1: most teams if you look at the snaps that they've played.

1022
00:54:28,560 --> 00:54:32,360
Speaker 1: They've been load managing for the college fotball playoff all seasons.

1023
00:54:32,520 --> 00:54:35,279
Speaker 1: It's really smart and I think it's eventually going to

1024
00:54:35,320 --> 00:54:38,200
Speaker 1: pay off. So I could see taking the points there

1025
00:54:38,200 --> 00:54:41,000
Speaker 1: that Indiana just on the intangibles. I think the line

1026
00:54:41,000 --> 00:54:44,319
Speaker 1: is about right, But I think the loser that game

1027
00:54:44,360 --> 00:54:46,960
Speaker 1: will still get a buye. The winner will get the

1028
00:54:47,400 --> 00:54:50,080
Speaker 1: one seed, and I don't think it's that big of

1029
00:54:50,080 --> 00:54:53,879
Speaker 1: a difference. Depending on how everything breaks, the one seed

1030
00:54:53,880 --> 00:54:56,279
Speaker 1: could end up being worse than the two. The three seed,

1031
00:54:56,280 --> 00:54:57,719
Speaker 1: as of right now, would be the one that you

1032
00:54:57,760 --> 00:54:59,680
Speaker 1: want because you would play the winner of Ole Miss

1033
00:54:59,719 --> 00:55:05,080
Speaker 1: without coach and one of the Group of five champions.

1034
00:55:05,080 --> 00:55:08,160
Speaker 1: So most likely all missed about a coach that's a

1035
00:55:08,200 --> 00:55:13,399
Speaker 1: lot better than potentially Notre Dame or Alabama. So it's

1036
00:55:13,400 --> 00:55:15,319
Speaker 1: not a big difference between the one, two or three.

1037
00:55:15,680 --> 00:55:17,759
Speaker 1: If Ohio State loses and doesn't get the one, I mean,

1038
00:55:17,760 --> 00:55:20,120
Speaker 1: they're gonna try and want to win, but it's not

1039
00:55:20,640 --> 00:55:23,239
Speaker 1: the end of the world if they don't get the

1040
00:55:23,280 --> 00:55:26,520
Speaker 1: one seed. But yeah, some really really really good games.

1041
00:55:26,560 --> 00:55:30,480
Speaker 1: The other game, the MAC Championship, I kind of like

1042
00:55:30,560 --> 00:55:33,200
Speaker 1: the under a bit there, and then you got the

1043
00:55:33,200 --> 00:55:36,640
Speaker 1: Conference USA on Friday night Kenna Saul Jacksonville State, another

1044
00:55:36,680 --> 00:55:39,000
Speaker 1: rematch from earlier in the season, So it should be

1045
00:55:39,080 --> 00:55:42,160
Speaker 1: a fun weekend, I think. So, just a lot of

1046
00:55:42,880 --> 00:55:45,480
Speaker 1: committee storylines and how everything's gonna break. Notre Dame fans

1047
00:55:45,520 --> 00:55:49,000
Speaker 1: are gonna be tuned in, Miami fans, and I think

1048
00:55:49,080 --> 00:55:51,600
Speaker 1: what this is all going to eventually lead to is

1049
00:55:52,280 --> 00:55:58,680
Speaker 1: an expanded playoff, and then probably I don't know, if

1050
00:55:58,719 --> 00:56:01,680
Speaker 1: the conference championship weekend will look like it does in

1051
00:56:01,719 --> 00:56:05,520
Speaker 1: the future and what it currently looks like in the future,

1052
00:56:05,680 --> 00:56:08,239
Speaker 1: like there's gonna be something on this weekend. There's too

1053
00:56:08,320 --> 00:56:11,200
Speaker 1: much money, but there might be like playing games, right,

1054
00:56:11,520 --> 00:56:13,120
Speaker 1: and that that would make more sense if you haven't

1055
00:56:13,160 --> 00:56:16,320
Speaker 1: expanded sixteen team field, so you would have like this weekend,

1056
00:56:17,120 --> 00:56:20,520
Speaker 1: you would have you know, maybe Vandy is playing someone,

1057
00:56:20,600 --> 00:56:27,520
Speaker 1: Miami is playing someone Alabama Notre Dame, right, all Texas

1058
00:56:27,640 --> 00:56:33,399
Speaker 1: is playing Texas, and then that helps the side who

1059
00:56:33,480 --> 00:56:37,560
Speaker 1: the final spots go to in the expanded field. So yeah,

1060
00:56:37,640 --> 00:56:42,320
Speaker 1: college football it's going to continue to change on an

1061
00:56:42,360 --> 00:56:45,439
Speaker 1: almost annual basis. I do think they got it right

1062
00:56:45,520 --> 00:56:52,160
Speaker 1: with that that the automatic conference champions don't automatically get

1063
00:56:52,160 --> 00:56:56,320
Speaker 1: a buy which was obviously the wrong way to go

1064
00:56:56,440 --> 00:56:59,200
Speaker 1: about it last year. Imagine this year. I mean you'd

1065
00:56:59,239 --> 00:57:01,239
Speaker 1: have you could even you would have like Duke or

1066
00:57:01,320 --> 00:57:07,279
Speaker 1: North Texas or James Madison with a BUYE would be

1067
00:57:07,320 --> 00:57:08,600
Speaker 1: something and then all of a sudden, you'd want to

1068
00:57:08,600 --> 00:57:10,520
Speaker 1: be in that five The five seed would be the

1069
00:57:11,200 --> 00:57:14,120
Speaker 1: best place to be. But so I do think they

1070
00:57:14,120 --> 00:57:16,480
Speaker 1: got it right. But yeah, it's just it's it's a

1071
00:57:16,520 --> 00:57:18,520
Speaker 1: changing game, and it's going to continue to change every week,

1072
00:57:18,560 --> 00:57:20,840
Speaker 1: but should be an exciting weekend.

1073
00:57:21,040 --> 00:57:23,560
Speaker 2: Well because look, Penn State lost to Oregon last year

1074
00:57:23,680 --> 00:57:26,360
Speaker 2: and they ended up getting boys SMU back to back games,

1075
00:57:26,440 --> 00:57:27,400
Speaker 2: right or Oregon.

1076
00:57:27,480 --> 00:57:29,400
Speaker 1: I said it for all week. Oregon should lose that

1077
00:57:29,440 --> 00:57:31,800
Speaker 1: game on purpose, and they would have been better off.

1078
00:57:32,280 --> 00:57:34,400
Speaker 1: They would have had an easier path. Who knows how

1079
00:57:34,440 --> 00:57:36,920
Speaker 1: it would have played out, but they would have had

1080
00:57:36,960 --> 00:57:40,000
Speaker 1: an easier route to the national championship instead of getting

1081
00:57:40,000 --> 00:57:42,520
Speaker 1: blown out by Ohio State. It was the best team,

1082
00:57:43,040 --> 00:57:48,080
Speaker 1: but at least that's no longer a thing whereas you

1083
00:57:48,120 --> 00:57:50,360
Speaker 1: don't know, like now there's no incentive lose because you

1084
00:57:50,440 --> 00:57:53,480
Speaker 1: just don't know, Like you can't say if through Ohio State,

1085
00:57:53,520 --> 00:57:55,880
Speaker 1: all right, well if we lose, will be the two

1086
00:57:56,000 --> 00:57:58,040
Speaker 1: or three and we're going to play this team. It's

1087
00:57:58,040 --> 00:58:00,520
Speaker 1: a lot easier to project out if you know you're

1088
00:58:00,560 --> 00:58:02,240
Speaker 1: going to be the five and you've got to play

1089
00:58:02,280 --> 00:58:04,680
Speaker 1: a team that has a buye that's you're gonna be

1090
00:58:04,720 --> 00:58:07,120
Speaker 1: double digit favored over. So they did get that right,

1091
00:58:07,160 --> 00:58:11,560
Speaker 1: But yeah, it's crazy. World of college football continues to change.

1092
00:58:11,760 --> 00:58:15,080
Speaker 2: Honestly, the most interesting part about the Indiana Ohio State game,

1093
00:58:15,960 --> 00:58:18,240
Speaker 2: given that, like at the end of the day, there's

1094
00:58:18,320 --> 00:58:20,360
Speaker 2: just not that much on the line, given they're both

1095
00:58:20,400 --> 00:58:24,520
Speaker 2: gonna get to buys. The GM John Spytech of the Raiders,

1096
00:58:24,720 --> 00:58:27,280
Speaker 2: Andrew Berry assuming he's going to keep his job in Cleveland,

1097
00:58:27,920 --> 00:58:30,120
Speaker 2: and the Jets New GM, like they got to be

1098
00:58:30,160 --> 00:58:32,480
Speaker 2: in attendance at that game. Like, if I'm those guys,

1099
00:58:32,520 --> 00:58:35,560
Speaker 2: I gotta be in attendance. I mean, I listen. You

1100
00:58:35,600 --> 00:58:37,479
Speaker 2: gotta give Ryan Day a lot of credit that Matt

1101
00:58:37,480 --> 00:58:40,360
Speaker 2: Patricia higher, the guy had been a lifetime NFL guy.

1102
00:58:40,680 --> 00:58:43,680
Speaker 2: You just never quite know though, you know, wink, you've

1103
00:58:43,720 --> 00:58:47,280
Speaker 2: seen guys, they transition relatively well. It couldn't have gone

1104
00:58:47,360 --> 00:58:50,360
Speaker 2: much better from Matt Patricia. So you get Matt Patricia

1105
00:58:50,360 --> 00:58:53,240
Speaker 2: against Fernando, even if they end up losing, you know,

1106
00:58:53,360 --> 00:58:56,840
Speaker 2: thirty to twenty. If he leads several touchdown drives and

1107
00:58:56,880 --> 00:59:00,840
Speaker 2: looks confident, you'd feel pretty good about his stock and

1108
00:59:00,960 --> 00:59:04,760
Speaker 2: kind of solidifying. Maybe will Stein leaving to Kentucky is

1109
00:59:04,840 --> 00:59:07,120
Speaker 2: kind of signaling that Dante Moore might come out as well.

1110
00:59:07,240 --> 00:59:08,680
Speaker 2: I don't know to put that much stock in that.

1111
00:59:08,720 --> 00:59:10,720
Speaker 2: I mean, he got what thirty thirty five million dollars,

1112
00:59:10,760 --> 00:59:13,240
Speaker 2: so he got a lot of money. And I didn't

1113
00:59:13,240 --> 00:59:15,480
Speaker 2: know his dad had played to Kentucky two, so he

1114
00:59:15,520 --> 00:59:18,160
Speaker 2: clearly has roots. You know, he played at Louisville, So

1115
00:59:18,200 --> 00:59:20,240
Speaker 2: it's not really that crazy of a jump, even though

1116
00:59:20,240 --> 00:59:21,640
Speaker 2: to me, and like, wait, if you're will Stein, why

1117
00:59:21,680 --> 00:59:24,760
Speaker 2: would you take that job? But I do think Fernando

1118
00:59:24,880 --> 00:59:27,520
Speaker 2: can could do a lot for his draft stock. Obviously

1119
00:59:27,520 --> 00:59:29,959
Speaker 2: it's already good, but I just mean to like these

1120
00:59:30,080 --> 00:59:32,280
Speaker 2: these data points and these check marks, like this is

1121
00:59:32,360 --> 00:59:33,960
Speaker 2: as good as it gets. I mean, he answered the

1122
00:59:33,960 --> 00:59:36,480
Speaker 2: bell after he threw that pick six in Oregon and

1123
00:59:36,520 --> 00:59:39,240
Speaker 2: came right back down. He's had some incredible moments. He's

1124
00:59:39,240 --> 00:59:42,439
Speaker 2: clearly very physically gifted, but this is the type moment

1125
00:59:42,920 --> 00:59:44,600
Speaker 2: even if he were to I mean, if they were

1126
00:59:44,640 --> 00:59:47,160
Speaker 2: to upset him and he looks awesome against this defense,

1127
00:59:47,200 --> 00:59:50,040
Speaker 2: and awesome could be a twenty one to seventeen win.

1128
00:59:50,160 --> 00:59:51,720
Speaker 2: I mean, it's not like he's gonna throw four or

1129
00:59:51,760 --> 00:59:54,560
Speaker 2: five touchdowns. More likely, hell, he throws two touchdowns, that'd

1130
00:59:54,600 --> 00:59:56,600
Speaker 2: be pretty I mean, I mean, don't they average like

1131
00:59:56,680 --> 00:59:59,200
Speaker 2: under ten points a game against Big ten opponents. I mean,

1132
00:59:59,520 --> 01:00:01,040
Speaker 2: no one's going on these guys.

1133
01:00:00,960 --> 01:00:03,360
Speaker 1: No one's scored more than sixteen all year. Now, I mean,

1134
01:00:03,400 --> 01:00:05,040
Speaker 1: I do they're their best defense in the country, but

1135
01:00:05,080 --> 01:00:07,600
Speaker 1: I will say like they haven't really been tested. This

1136
01:00:07,640 --> 01:00:10,120
Speaker 1: will be their best their biggest test for both Mendoza

1137
01:00:10,120 --> 01:00:13,040
Speaker 1: and the Ohio State defense. And it's on a fast track.

1138
01:00:14,080 --> 01:00:15,800
Speaker 1: But you could say this is anybody. The Ohio State offense,

1139
01:00:15,800 --> 01:00:17,600
Speaker 1: which has really just been kind of managing time. Like

1140
01:00:17,640 --> 01:00:19,720
Speaker 1: they're on a fast track now with Carnell Tate and

1141
01:00:20,680 --> 01:00:23,919
Speaker 1: Jeremiah Smith, the best wide receiver duo in the country.

1142
01:00:24,080 --> 01:00:25,960
Speaker 1: So yeah, we'll learn a lot about both teams because

1143
01:00:25,960 --> 01:00:29,440
Speaker 1: Ohio State, I mean, the best offenses they played this

1144
01:00:29,560 --> 01:00:32,360
Speaker 1: year were like Washington who had offensive line injuries, and

1145
01:00:32,400 --> 01:00:36,360
Speaker 1: we've seen Washington struggle against better competition this year, and

1146
01:00:36,400 --> 01:00:39,200
Speaker 1: then Texas, who early in the year their offense was

1147
01:00:39,240 --> 01:00:42,840
Speaker 1: a mess against everyone. So and then Michigan's offense this

1148
01:00:42,960 --> 01:00:45,920
Speaker 1: year just isn't it, especially away from home. So this

1149
01:00:45,960 --> 01:00:49,800
Speaker 1: will be the biggest test. Now, Mendoza, I mean, he

1150
01:00:49,840 --> 01:00:52,080
Speaker 1: was only eight of fifteen for one hundred yards against Perdue.

1151
01:00:52,080 --> 01:00:55,640
Speaker 1: He should have had a couple of interceptions, you know.

1152
01:00:55,680 --> 01:00:59,360
Speaker 1: He struggled a bit against Penn State. He struggled a

1153
01:00:59,360 --> 01:01:02,600
Speaker 1: bit against Ia. Now he's had some big moments and

1154
01:01:02,800 --> 01:01:04,640
Speaker 1: I do think he's very good. I don't think he's

1155
01:01:04,720 --> 01:01:06,680
Speaker 1: like should be like a number one overall pick me.

1156
01:01:07,000 --> 01:01:09,880
Speaker 1: I think this quarterback class is pretty weak, but he's

1157
01:01:09,880 --> 01:01:12,200
Speaker 1: going to go in the top five or top ten.

1158
01:01:13,120 --> 01:01:16,080
Speaker 1: It's a very good test for him. I will say.

1159
01:01:16,760 --> 01:01:18,720
Speaker 1: One of the things you have to question about Ohio

1160
01:01:18,760 --> 01:01:21,960
Speaker 1: State is I think that Bryan Day would love if

1161
01:01:21,960 --> 01:01:24,160
Speaker 1: this game goes down to the wire because the one

1162
01:01:24,200 --> 01:01:25,920
Speaker 1: thing Ohio State hasn't done has been in like a

1163
01:01:25,920 --> 01:01:28,800
Speaker 1: close game with a freshman quarterback. Right like everything's been

1164
01:01:28,840 --> 01:01:32,720
Speaker 1: easy and Indiana has been They were in a dogfight

1165
01:01:32,840 --> 01:01:35,720
Speaker 1: at Iowa, close game against Oregon, they had to have

1166
01:01:35,760 --> 01:01:38,480
Speaker 1: a drive to win it against Penn State. The one

1167
01:01:38,520 --> 01:01:41,160
Speaker 1: thing I am confident in is that Indiana this year

1168
01:01:41,960 --> 01:01:45,160
Speaker 1: is much more capable than the team last year at

1169
01:01:45,200 --> 01:01:48,439
Speaker 1: competing with the team's full of five stars. They're much

1170
01:01:48,480 --> 01:01:52,360
Speaker 1: better in the trenches and they proved that at Oregon,

1171
01:01:52,480 --> 01:01:54,640
Speaker 1: and that win on the road in Eugene, not an

1172
01:01:54,640 --> 01:01:57,320
Speaker 1: easy place to play, has aged very well because Oregon

1173
01:01:57,360 --> 01:02:00,840
Speaker 1: has won every game and looked good. Oregon was healthy

1174
01:02:00,880 --> 01:02:05,800
Speaker 1: then as well, so Indiana can compete in the trenches here.

1175
01:02:07,040 --> 01:02:09,480
Speaker 1: The one remaining question for Ohio State is that, like

1176
01:02:09,960 --> 01:02:12,720
Speaker 1: how we'll say and play if it's a close team.

1177
01:02:12,720 --> 01:02:15,120
Speaker 1: They just haven't been tested yet, so I think Day

1178
01:02:15,160 --> 01:02:18,160
Speaker 1: would like that. And yeah, Patricia's been phenomenal. Obviously they

1179
01:02:18,160 --> 01:02:21,480
Speaker 1: have great players. There's NFL players on both teams. So yeah,

1180
01:02:21,560 --> 01:02:24,680
Speaker 1: your point on the scouts spot on, But I was

1181
01:02:24,720 --> 01:02:27,600
Speaker 1: wrong on Patricia and he's been great schematically, and he

1182
01:02:27,640 --> 01:02:30,120
Speaker 1: seems to get along with Day better. They like really

1183
01:02:30,160 --> 01:02:32,000
Speaker 1: they have. It seems like they really like each other.

1184
01:02:33,080 --> 01:02:37,480
Speaker 1: And Ryan Day has been a covering machine. This has

1185
01:02:37,520 --> 01:02:39,959
Speaker 1: been number one team in the country since they lost

1186
01:02:39,960 --> 01:02:42,480
Speaker 1: to Michigan last year. It's almost hard to believe they're

1187
01:02:42,560 --> 01:02:47,240
Speaker 1: fourteen one and one against the spread. They haven't. They've

1188
01:02:47,240 --> 01:02:50,360
Speaker 1: only not covered one game over their past sixteen and

1189
01:02:50,400 --> 01:02:52,400
Speaker 1: they're number one in the country, the team everyone wants

1190
01:02:52,400 --> 01:02:55,760
Speaker 1: to bet market just hasn't been able to catch up

1191
01:02:55,760 --> 01:02:59,840
Speaker 1: to them. So yeah, this is uh. It's a game

1192
01:03:00,080 --> 01:03:03,800
Speaker 1: looking forward to watching. But as far as the big implications,

1193
01:03:04,200 --> 01:03:07,240
Speaker 1: doesn't really mean much. It might based on how these

1194
01:03:07,240 --> 01:03:08,880
Speaker 1: teams fall and how the rest of the bracket holes.

1195
01:03:08,880 --> 01:03:10,160
Speaker 1: But I do think it means a lot more to

1196
01:03:10,200 --> 01:03:13,160
Speaker 1: Indiana because they can really say no one can say

1197
01:03:13,160 --> 01:03:15,120
Speaker 1: like you don't belong anymore. You have wins over Oregon

1198
01:03:15,160 --> 01:03:18,360
Speaker 1: in Ohio State, so yeah, should be a fun one.

1199
01:03:18,640 --> 01:03:21,800
Speaker 2: This is crazy to say because you know, he feels

1200
01:03:21,800 --> 01:03:23,560
Speaker 2: like an NFL guy. He'd want to go back. But

1201
01:03:23,640 --> 01:03:26,320
Speaker 2: for some reason my YouTube algorithm, I get some like

1202
01:03:26,320 --> 01:03:31,320
Speaker 2: Matt Patricia interviews. He's always now again, they're winning, they're dominating.

1203
01:03:31,360 --> 01:03:34,680
Speaker 2: He's had a loaded program. He feels much more like

1204
01:03:34,760 --> 01:03:37,959
Speaker 2: kind of lighthearted. He's smiling a lot. Obviously he's lost

1205
01:03:37,960 --> 01:03:40,400
Speaker 2: a bunch of weight. Maybe he's found his colleague, like

1206
01:03:40,400 --> 01:03:44,360
Speaker 2: he's really enjoyed. Like you said, they're always hugging and smiling.

1207
01:03:44,800 --> 01:03:48,600
Speaker 2: Like he doesn't feel like the Belichickian grumpy kind of

1208
01:03:48,640 --> 01:03:52,120
Speaker 2: a hole that went to Detroit. There's like a looseness

1209
01:03:52,200 --> 01:03:55,080
Speaker 2: to him. I mean, as we record this Penn State

1210
01:03:55,160 --> 01:03:56,880
Speaker 2: doesn't have a coach. I don't know. I mean, this

1211
01:03:56,920 --> 01:04:00,680
Speaker 2: guy's been an NFL head coach before. Schematically, he's clearly

1212
01:04:00,760 --> 01:04:03,880
Speaker 2: really bright guy. Yeah, and you know, recruiting wise, I

1213
01:04:03,920 --> 01:04:06,480
Speaker 2: mean he's got a he's got a year apprenticeship at

1214
01:04:06,520 --> 01:04:09,120
Speaker 2: Ohio State. Like he's seen the blueprint of what you do.

1215
01:04:09,280 --> 01:04:12,000
Speaker 2: Like I mean, I just keep an eye. Maybe if

1216
01:04:12,040 --> 01:04:13,720
Speaker 2: you're him, you just stay in college. There's a ton

1217
01:04:13,720 --> 01:04:16,000
Speaker 2: of money in it. Maybe he's just found a sweet

1218
01:04:16,000 --> 01:04:17,720
Speaker 2: spot because no one's hiring him to be an NFL

1219
01:04:17,720 --> 01:04:20,720
Speaker 2: head coach, and like the Ohio State will pay as

1220
01:04:20,800 --> 01:04:23,120
Speaker 2: much as the NFL team, So I I think he's

1221
01:04:23,120 --> 01:04:25,080
Speaker 2: gonna be there for a little bit if unless he

1222
01:04:25,120 --> 01:04:27,040
Speaker 2: wants to become a head coach in college like that

1223
01:04:27,160 --> 01:04:28,360
Speaker 2: might that might be the route.

1224
01:04:28,760 --> 01:04:30,200
Speaker 1: I agree, I think that's the road he might end

1225
01:04:30,280 --> 01:04:31,640
Speaker 1: up taking. But as of right now, yeah, it seems

1226
01:04:31,680 --> 01:04:32,760
Speaker 1: like he's in a good spot.

1227
01:04:46,280 --> 01:04:50,120
Speaker 2: Let's transition, and let's start with a game that when

1228
01:04:50,160 --> 01:04:52,080
Speaker 2: they were one and five and they were still favored

1229
01:04:52,120 --> 01:04:55,720
Speaker 2: to win the division, it did feel a little crazy. Uh.

1230
01:04:55,760 --> 01:04:58,120
Speaker 2: And you know, if I would have told you that

1231
01:04:58,200 --> 01:05:00,240
Speaker 2: they would have been six and six at that moment,

1232
01:05:00,280 --> 01:05:02,000
Speaker 2: you'd be like, Okay, they battled back, but they would

1233
01:05:02,000 --> 01:05:04,040
Speaker 2: have probably been a game or two back. Turns out

1234
01:05:04,040 --> 01:05:07,439
Speaker 2: that Steelers are a mess and like legitimately circling the drain,

1235
01:05:08,280 --> 01:05:11,720
Speaker 2: and I understand you know that it's your squad. They looked

1236
01:05:11,800 --> 01:05:15,720
Speaker 2: awful on Thursday night, the turnovers. It was just a

1237
01:05:15,720 --> 01:05:20,800
Speaker 2: disastrous performance. But I'm going to take the same mindset

1238
01:05:20,840 --> 01:05:23,960
Speaker 2: it comes if JJ McCarthy's playing, I'm going to short

1239
01:05:23,960 --> 01:05:26,160
Speaker 2: the Vikings. I don't really care who they're playing unless

1240
01:05:26,160 --> 01:05:29,480
Speaker 2: they're playing the Titans. I'm gonna take the same logic

1241
01:05:29,520 --> 01:05:31,560
Speaker 2: when it comes to the Steelers. This game's in Baltimore,

1242
01:05:31,600 --> 01:05:34,120
Speaker 2: and I understand the Steelers have played Lamar well over

1243
01:05:34,160 --> 01:05:36,480
Speaker 2: the years, but this is Lamar actually is a little

1244
01:05:36,520 --> 01:05:38,960
Speaker 2: different player than the guy like he's kind of banged up,

1245
01:05:38,960 --> 01:05:42,439
Speaker 2: He's not moving around quite as well. This is more

1246
01:05:42,520 --> 01:05:45,080
Speaker 2: like this does feel like a lot of points, but

1247
01:05:45,120 --> 01:05:48,320
Speaker 2: it's just a bet against the Steelers, and I'm gonna

1248
01:05:48,320 --> 01:05:50,760
Speaker 2: hammer the Ravens minu six. Honestly, it's like one of

1249
01:05:50,800 --> 01:05:51,880
Speaker 2: my favorite bets on the board.

1250
01:05:53,280 --> 01:05:59,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, as a Ravens fan, I'm programmed to expect that

1251
01:05:59,160 --> 01:06:02,080
Speaker 1: this game will in twenty to seventeen, and it's just

1252
01:06:02,560 --> 01:06:04,640
Speaker 1: that's how all these games end. I mean, if you

1253
01:06:04,680 --> 01:06:08,400
Speaker 1: look his story, they've these Hardball and Tomlin have met

1254
01:06:10,320 --> 01:06:13,640
Speaker 1: what the since sixteen years where they're both there thirty

1255
01:06:13,640 --> 01:06:17,120
Speaker 1: two times in the regular season, Twenty six of them

1256
01:06:17,160 --> 01:06:19,840
Speaker 1: have been decided by one possession when either as an

1257
01:06:19,880 --> 01:06:23,680
Speaker 1: underdog of three or more points, The underdog has gone

1258
01:06:24,000 --> 01:06:26,560
Speaker 1: nineteen three and three against the spread eighty six and

1259
01:06:26,600 --> 01:06:30,680
Speaker 1: a half percent. But and Tomlin as a dog has

1260
01:06:30,680 --> 01:06:33,400
Speaker 1: always been good. But this isn't the same Steelers team.

1261
01:06:33,440 --> 01:06:37,040
Speaker 1: They don't. Their defense is really bad. I mean it

1262
01:06:37,120 --> 01:06:40,760
Speaker 1: was eye opening last week to watch them against the Bills,

1263
01:06:40,800 --> 01:06:45,760
Speaker 1: who were without both tackles, without Kincaid, and they just ran.

1264
01:06:45,840 --> 01:06:48,360
Speaker 1: They ran the same rushing play twenty seven times and

1265
01:06:48,400 --> 01:06:51,040
Speaker 1: it worked almost every single time. They didn't adjust, They

1266
01:06:51,040 --> 01:06:54,320
Speaker 1: couldn't do anything. They have defensive injuries. Now, is this

1267
01:06:54,360 --> 01:06:56,000
Speaker 1: a game where the Ravens can just do the same

1268
01:06:56,080 --> 01:06:58,440
Speaker 1: and just hand it off to Henry use their backs?

1269
01:06:59,560 --> 01:07:03,320
Speaker 1: It might now. The Ravens offense in fairness, and Rogers

1270
01:07:03,560 --> 01:07:06,840
Speaker 1: is a mess. I mean, he has a minus thirteen

1271
01:07:06,880 --> 01:07:09,840
Speaker 1: point six completion percentage over expectations since Week ten. That's

1272
01:07:09,880 --> 01:07:14,880
Speaker 1: dead last among every quarterback. I mean, Gabriel McCarthy, Brosmer,

1273
01:07:14,960 --> 01:07:17,520
Speaker 1: you name him, he hasn't. They haven't completed a pass

1274
01:07:17,560 --> 01:07:21,640
Speaker 1: longer than twenty yards in a month. And he has

1275
01:07:21,680 --> 01:07:24,080
Speaker 1: a hand injury now, so they're always in pistol and

1276
01:07:24,120 --> 01:07:28,320
Speaker 1: it's predictable, and their receivers can't get separation. It's a mess.

1277
01:07:28,400 --> 01:07:30,880
Speaker 1: Now the Ravens can't get pressure on defense, so maybe

1278
01:07:31,480 --> 01:07:35,880
Speaker 1: that's a reprieve. But and the one thing I will

1279
01:07:35,880 --> 01:07:38,040
Speaker 1: say is the Ravens offense is also a mess because

1280
01:07:38,080 --> 01:07:41,720
Speaker 1: Lamar isn't healthy. And I mean, if you look at

1281
01:07:41,720 --> 01:07:45,160
Speaker 1: some of his numbers since he came back, I mean

1282
01:07:45,200 --> 01:07:47,440
Speaker 1: he's second worse than the league in catchable ball rate,

1283
01:07:48,640 --> 01:07:51,880
Speaker 1: third worst and on target rate when he's not being pressured.

1284
01:07:52,480 --> 01:07:55,080
Speaker 1: Those are troubling signs. And that's because you know it's

1285
01:07:55,080 --> 01:07:59,400
Speaker 1: the hamstring and knee, a toe and ankle. But the

1286
01:07:59,480 --> 01:08:01,280
Speaker 1: Ravens might be able to just line it up here

1287
01:08:01,280 --> 01:08:04,720
Speaker 1: and run the ball. Yeah, and their offense is a mess,

1288
01:08:05,520 --> 01:08:07,120
Speaker 1: And you're right, like, the Steelers done a really good

1289
01:08:07,160 --> 01:08:09,160
Speaker 1: job containing Lamar and his legs, but that's not really

1290
01:08:09,200 --> 01:08:12,000
Speaker 1: his game at the moment. And the Ravens do have

1291
01:08:12,160 --> 01:08:14,560
Speaker 1: upside in their offense in that there is going to

1292
01:08:14,600 --> 01:08:17,920
Speaker 1: be a point where Lamar does get healthier and he

1293
01:08:18,000 --> 01:08:20,400
Speaker 1: keeps saying he's getting closer, and then once that happens,

1294
01:08:21,200 --> 01:08:24,600
Speaker 1: I think this offense is going to take off. I

1295
01:08:24,680 --> 01:08:28,719
Speaker 1: don't see what The upside is with the Steelers offense,

1296
01:08:29,200 --> 01:08:32,760
Speaker 1: like it's it's what forty two year old Rogers now

1297
01:08:32,760 --> 01:08:35,479
Speaker 1: with the weather getting colder and colder and hurt hand

1298
01:08:36,520 --> 01:08:38,760
Speaker 1: and they just signed. They just went on and got

1299
01:08:38,800 --> 01:08:41,520
Speaker 1: Adam feeling like that's when you know it's bad.

1300
01:08:43,080 --> 01:08:46,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, So he can he can brace on sacks because

1301
01:08:46,800 --> 01:08:49,400
Speaker 2: the arm you're holding the ball in the one hand,

1302
01:08:49,800 --> 01:08:53,040
Speaker 2: you naturally kind of it's just a human reaction, whether

1303
01:08:53,120 --> 01:08:55,000
Speaker 2: you and me are playing pick up football out on

1304
01:08:55,040 --> 01:08:57,880
Speaker 2: the grass or whether you're playing NFL football. Even that

1305
01:08:57,880 --> 01:09:00,960
Speaker 2: play with Joey Bosa, he's kind of limp and you know,

1306
01:09:01,000 --> 01:09:02,599
Speaker 2: you're just kinda I mean you're.

1307
01:09:04,360 --> 01:09:04,679
Speaker 1: Here.

1308
01:09:05,240 --> 01:09:10,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, So, which which I respect. At forty two years old,

1309
01:09:10,520 --> 01:09:13,719
Speaker 2: with I'm sure hundreds of millions of dollars in the bank,

1310
01:09:14,320 --> 01:09:16,320
Speaker 2: he does not need to be doing this. But he

1311
01:09:16,400 --> 01:09:18,960
Speaker 2: signed up, and I think there's some pride in him,

1312
01:09:19,400 --> 01:09:21,400
Speaker 2: you know, to even come back into that game. It's like,

1313
01:09:21,439 --> 01:09:23,800
Speaker 2: what is he doing? But he he doesn't want to

1314
01:09:23,880 --> 01:09:26,960
Speaker 2: let down, like he signed up for Tomlin and now

1315
01:09:27,000 --> 01:09:29,599
Speaker 2: he feels, you know, he's compromised. It's just it does

1316
01:09:29,720 --> 01:09:32,200
Speaker 2: just feel like this thing's unraveling. And for the first time.

1317
01:09:32,760 --> 01:09:35,680
Speaker 2: There's like substance behind, like this could really kind of

1318
01:09:35,680 --> 01:09:39,479
Speaker 2: be the end of this of this coaching era for

1319
01:09:39,560 --> 01:09:40,000
Speaker 2: this guy.

1320
01:09:40,760 --> 01:09:43,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean they're Look, they're six and six. There's

1321
01:09:43,439 --> 01:09:47,040
Speaker 1: a huge game in the division. Now they play each

1322
01:09:47,040 --> 01:09:49,000
Speaker 1: other again. They put in the last game of the year,

1323
01:09:49,840 --> 01:09:53,160
Speaker 1: and the Steelers do have games against the Dolphins and

1324
01:09:53,200 --> 01:09:57,800
Speaker 1: the Browns left, So maybe they find a way to

1325
01:09:57,800 --> 01:10:01,360
Speaker 1: get the nine and eight again, which would be very fitting.

1326
01:10:01,400 --> 01:10:06,400
Speaker 1: They it just needs Look, Tomlin's a great coach, He's

1327
01:10:06,479 --> 01:10:09,560
Speaker 1: I mean, he's never had a losing record, great motivator,

1328
01:10:10,600 --> 01:10:13,639
Speaker 1: but there's comes a time when I think it would

1329
01:10:13,640 --> 01:10:16,840
Speaker 1: be best for him and the organization to part ways.

1330
01:10:16,840 --> 01:10:19,240
Speaker 1: The voice. Sometimes you need a new voice. And the

1331
01:10:19,280 --> 01:10:22,439
Speaker 1: Steelers need to just stop going nine to eight because

1332
01:10:22,439 --> 01:10:25,720
Speaker 1: they need a franchise quarterback they otherwise they're just going

1333
01:10:25,760 --> 01:10:30,519
Speaker 1: to be stuck in purgatory forever at eight nine, nine

1334
01:10:30,560 --> 01:10:32,880
Speaker 1: and eight with no chance of winning a playoff game,

1335
01:10:32,880 --> 01:10:35,960
Speaker 1: a super Bowl. And that's where they're at now. There

1336
01:10:35,760 --> 01:10:37,559
Speaker 1: are like a couple weeks are they're talk about Rogers

1337
01:10:37,600 --> 01:10:40,519
Speaker 1: coming back next year. It's like, if I was a

1338
01:10:40,520 --> 01:10:43,680
Speaker 1: Steelers fan, it's fun that you're in it and like

1339
01:10:43,800 --> 01:10:46,080
Speaker 1: in the playoff race, in the division race all the time,

1340
01:10:46,160 --> 01:10:48,160
Speaker 1: but you don't feel like you've ever a chance to

1341
01:10:48,160 --> 01:10:50,880
Speaker 1: win at all. And that's ultimately the goal in this

1342
01:10:50,920 --> 01:10:54,760
Speaker 1: whole gig. And so yeah, the Steelers eventually need to

1343
01:10:55,080 --> 01:10:56,760
Speaker 1: blow it up, which is why I said at the time,

1344
01:10:56,800 --> 01:10:58,439
Speaker 1: like I don't know why, I know they had to

1345
01:10:58,439 --> 01:11:00,920
Speaker 1: do it, but I wouldn't have given lot all of

1346
01:11:00,920 --> 01:11:03,800
Speaker 1: that money because you just need a reset, you need

1347
01:11:03,840 --> 01:11:07,720
Speaker 1: to find your quarterback. But uh yeah, so my fan

1348
01:11:07,800 --> 01:11:09,720
Speaker 1: of me says this is gonna be close, because that's

1349
01:11:09,720 --> 01:11:13,120
Speaker 1: all Raven Steeers games ever are. But it's hard for

1350
01:11:13,160 --> 01:11:15,439
Speaker 1: me to see the Steelers offense and then their defense,

1351
01:11:15,479 --> 01:11:18,200
Speaker 1: their run dyes so bad. There's so many issues. So

1352
01:11:19,680 --> 01:11:20,800
Speaker 1: I don't hate your luck there.

1353
01:11:21,360 --> 01:11:23,000
Speaker 2: The Rogers thing, they didn't really have a choice, that

1354
01:11:23,040 --> 01:11:25,920
Speaker 2: weren't any other options. But the Watt thing is going

1355
01:11:25,960 --> 01:11:29,439
Speaker 2: to be the DK Metcalf move is devastating to give

1356
01:11:29,520 --> 01:11:31,400
Speaker 2: him that much money and a second.

1357
01:11:31,120 --> 01:11:33,760
Speaker 1: When you're Watchings become like the best receiver in the well.

1358
01:11:33,760 --> 01:11:36,400
Speaker 2: So yeah, so the swap out there they gave, like

1359
01:11:36,520 --> 01:11:38,120
Speaker 2: when you are paying a bunch of people a lot

1360
01:11:38,120 --> 01:11:40,240
Speaker 2: of money, you don't have that much wiggle room. So

1361
01:11:40,240 --> 01:11:42,120
Speaker 2: when you give a guy a one year, ten million

1362
01:11:42,200 --> 01:11:45,360
Speaker 2: dollar deal like they did Dislay, that's pretty important for

1363
01:11:45,400 --> 01:11:47,960
Speaker 2: that guy, even if he's not a pro bowler, to

1364
01:11:48,040 --> 01:11:50,439
Speaker 2: be like a legit solid start. He didn't make it

1365
01:11:50,479 --> 01:11:53,080
Speaker 2: to December. He was in a healthy scratch by Thanksgiving.

1366
01:11:53,640 --> 01:11:56,880
Speaker 2: It's like, that's a disastrous personnel move, you know, and

1367
01:11:56,920 --> 01:11:59,960
Speaker 2: it's just their personnel moves. And I put something on Twitter,

1368
01:12:00,040 --> 01:12:01,840
Speaker 2: people are like, well, Kevin Colbert was bad the last

1369
01:12:01,840 --> 01:12:05,000
Speaker 2: couple of years. For most of his run, that organization

1370
01:12:05,160 --> 01:12:07,400
Speaker 2: was viewed like the Ravens, like the Packers, just one

1371
01:12:07,439 --> 01:12:10,280
Speaker 2: of the most consistent. They know what they're doing. They

1372
01:12:10,280 --> 01:12:13,000
Speaker 2: don't feel like that right now. They feel really out

1373
01:12:13,000 --> 01:12:16,000
Speaker 2: of whack. So I love the Ravens another team.

1374
01:12:16,280 --> 01:12:19,360
Speaker 1: Well, they're because they're stuck in like the middle.

1375
01:12:19,360 --> 01:12:21,240
Speaker 2: They're trying to maintain it, yeah, and they're.

1376
01:12:21,080 --> 01:12:24,679
Speaker 1: Trying to just like do these band aids and it's

1377
01:12:24,720 --> 01:12:25,559
Speaker 1: just not gonna work.

1378
01:12:27,000 --> 01:12:29,479
Speaker 2: Turns out Collinsworth was right the way that he was

1379
01:12:29,520 --> 01:12:33,840
Speaker 2: pronouncing Maryota, and Maryota got his back saying that's the

1380
01:12:33,920 --> 01:12:37,200
Speaker 2: actual way to pronounce it, though I just say Mariota.

1381
01:12:38,320 --> 01:12:41,840
Speaker 2: He actually looked pretty good on Sunday Night football. My

1382
01:12:42,000 --> 01:12:45,040
Speaker 2: simple logic is this, if JJ McCarthy is starting a

1383
01:12:45,040 --> 01:12:49,840
Speaker 2: game against a team with just some capable players, I'm

1384
01:12:49,880 --> 01:12:53,719
Speaker 2: going to take the other team and taking Washington plus

1385
01:12:53,760 --> 01:12:56,960
Speaker 2: two and a half. Listen, you know, I just think

1386
01:12:57,000 --> 01:13:02,000
Speaker 2: this JJ thing, you get to a situation where you're

1387
01:13:02,000 --> 01:13:04,800
Speaker 2: gonna they'll start in Minnesota is less likely to booth

1388
01:13:04,880 --> 01:13:06,559
Speaker 2: and like let's say a Philly or some of these

1389
01:13:06,560 --> 01:13:09,120
Speaker 2: other places, that place is gonna be on tilt if

1390
01:13:09,120 --> 01:13:11,000
Speaker 2: he goes three and out a couple times of like,

1391
01:13:11,240 --> 01:13:16,120
Speaker 2: this is a disastrous situation. Most people you know, like, listen,

1392
01:13:16,360 --> 01:13:18,680
Speaker 2: he's not the first guy to show say hey I

1393
01:13:19,000 --> 01:13:21,240
Speaker 2: got a headache or whatever on the plane ride home

1394
01:13:21,320 --> 01:13:22,960
Speaker 2: or the next day. So I'm not gonna say that

1395
01:13:22,960 --> 01:13:25,639
Speaker 2: he made that up. But there've just been two kind

1396
01:13:25,640 --> 01:13:27,680
Speaker 2: of all of a sudden, this guy's injured after just

1397
01:13:27,840 --> 01:13:33,479
Speaker 2: disastrous performances and coming back he obviously hasn't played much football.

1398
01:13:33,479 --> 01:13:37,320
Speaker 2: When he has, he's been awful. I could just see like,

1399
01:13:37,439 --> 01:13:39,200
Speaker 2: all of a sudden, he's just gonna look good. I

1400
01:13:39,200 --> 01:13:42,000
Speaker 2: mean I have a hard time seeing that. So I'm

1401
01:13:42,040 --> 01:13:43,519
Speaker 2: hammering Washington in this game.

1402
01:13:44,800 --> 01:13:47,400
Speaker 1: I played the Vikings, but at a bunch of different number.

1403
01:13:47,800 --> 01:13:49,960
Speaker 1: I can't blame you for Padie McCarthy. I mean, this

1404
01:13:50,360 --> 01:13:55,439
Speaker 1: line opened as with the Commander is a favorite, and

1405
01:13:55,720 --> 01:13:59,320
Speaker 1: this is my case for the Vikings and the rebuttal

1406
01:13:59,320 --> 01:14:00,000
Speaker 1: can just be mcarthy.

1407
01:14:00,000 --> 01:14:02,720
Speaker 2: He's not going to hit that's my logic. I'm just

1408
01:14:02,760 --> 01:14:03,799
Speaker 2: against J. J. McCarthy.

1409
01:14:03,960 --> 01:14:07,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, but I'm saying like DVI just said, McCarthy's not

1410
01:14:07,040 --> 01:14:08,679
Speaker 1: going to hit a wide open pass because the Commanders

1411
01:14:08,680 --> 01:14:10,720
Speaker 1: can't get pressure. Their defense has been a little better

1412
01:14:10,760 --> 01:14:13,520
Speaker 1: since Quinn took over. They're playing more zone. He simplified

1413
01:14:13,560 --> 01:14:15,880
Speaker 1: some things, but it's still a really bad defense. Like

1414
01:14:15,880 --> 01:14:19,160
Speaker 1: the second they're dead last and drop back EPA. They

1415
01:14:19,200 --> 01:14:21,240
Speaker 1: cannot get any pressu anymore. They don't have any players

1416
01:14:21,320 --> 01:14:23,719
Speaker 1: left on the defensive line. They have no edge rushers,

1417
01:14:24,560 --> 01:14:27,200
Speaker 1: so there's gonna be opportunities for McCarthy to hit wide

1418
01:14:27,200 --> 01:14:29,840
Speaker 1: open receivers. Can he hit them. I don't know. So far,

1419
01:14:29,880 --> 01:14:33,439
Speaker 1: he's shown that he can't do it consistently. But like

1420
01:14:33,479 --> 01:14:36,720
Speaker 1: the Vikings, their defense is still very formidable. It's still

1421
01:14:36,760 --> 01:14:38,400
Speaker 1: a really good home field Evan. And this is the

1422
01:14:38,400 --> 01:14:40,479
Speaker 1: first road game for the Commanders in forty one days.

1423
01:14:40,479 --> 01:14:44,760
Speaker 1: They're coming off of devastating overtime loss. Their defense is

1424
01:14:44,800 --> 01:14:46,759
Speaker 1: on the field they were on. There's so many plays

1425
01:14:46,800 --> 01:14:49,439
Speaker 1: in that game. There's a chance Daniels is going to

1426
01:14:49,479 --> 01:14:51,040
Speaker 1: play at quarterback. I actually think that would be a

1427
01:14:51,040 --> 01:14:53,720
Speaker 1: bad thing. He's struggled against the blitz. He's been off

1428
01:14:53,720 --> 01:14:57,320
Speaker 1: for so long. Mariota's numbers have actually been better than Daniels.

1429
01:14:57,320 --> 01:14:59,120
Speaker 1: They've got the same amount of snaps this year. I'm

1430
01:14:59,120 --> 01:15:03,960
Speaker 1: not the same Mariot as Mariota is better, But this

1431
01:15:04,080 --> 01:15:05,680
Speaker 1: year Daniels has just had like a little bit of

1432
01:15:05,680 --> 01:15:09,000
Speaker 1: a sophomore slump. He never got in rhythm with his receivers.

1433
01:15:09,040 --> 01:15:11,320
Speaker 1: There's been so many injuries, and now coming back from

1434
01:15:12,200 --> 01:15:16,160
Speaker 1: a long absence facing that Vikings defense, that could be problematic.

1435
01:15:16,240 --> 01:15:20,200
Speaker 1: But I do think now that this numbers jumped, it's

1436
01:15:20,240 --> 01:15:22,280
Speaker 1: not the same. But originally I was like, this is

1437
01:15:22,280 --> 01:15:24,479
Speaker 1: the bottom of the market on the Vikings they've and

1438
01:15:24,520 --> 01:15:26,280
Speaker 1: for what it's worth, teams off of a shut getting

1439
01:15:26,320 --> 01:15:29,360
Speaker 1: shut out historically have hit at about sixty percent against

1440
01:15:29,400 --> 01:15:30,640
Speaker 1: his spread the next week. I mean, who wants to

1441
01:15:30,760 --> 01:15:32,880
Speaker 1: Usually who wants to play the team that just got

1442
01:15:32,880 --> 01:15:35,000
Speaker 1: shut out, you might get a you know, a point

1443
01:15:35,080 --> 01:15:41,360
Speaker 1: or two of value and the in fairness to the vikings,

1444
01:15:42,080 --> 01:15:44,320
Speaker 1: they were three and two before the bye week, and

1445
01:15:44,320 --> 01:15:48,160
Speaker 1: then after their bye they played the Eagles arguably should

1446
01:15:48,160 --> 01:15:52,200
Speaker 1: have won at the Chargers at the Lions. They won

1447
01:15:52,240 --> 01:15:56,520
Speaker 1: that game with McCarthy, Ravens, Bears at Packers, at Seahawks.

1448
01:15:57,320 --> 01:16:01,240
Speaker 1: That's been their last seven games vicious. Yes, so now

1449
01:16:01,280 --> 01:16:06,439
Speaker 1: this is definitely more of a break. So yeah, I

1450
01:16:06,439 --> 01:16:10,400
Speaker 1: did play some some early vikings. But you can just

1451
01:16:10,520 --> 01:16:16,680
Speaker 1: say McCarthy. Why McCarthy favored over whatever, it's Mariodo or Daniels.

1452
01:16:16,720 --> 01:16:21,160
Speaker 1: No way. He hasn't shown that he can complete even

1453
01:16:21,200 --> 01:16:26,920
Speaker 1: wide open passes consistently NFL, and historically team quarterbacks coming

1454
01:16:27,000 --> 01:16:29,400
Speaker 1: off of a concussion there is a dip in production.

1455
01:16:29,920 --> 01:16:32,559
Speaker 1: So I could see the case for the Commanders. But

1456
01:16:32,640 --> 01:16:36,439
Speaker 1: I do have some vikings. Am I scared about it? Yes?

1457
01:16:36,560 --> 01:16:40,320
Speaker 1: I also bet the Raiders. Am I scared about that? Yes?

1458
01:16:42,520 --> 01:16:45,320
Speaker 2: But yeah, I don't know who the Raiders even playing

1459
01:16:45,439 --> 01:16:46,160
Speaker 2: the Broncos.

1460
01:16:46,200 --> 01:16:51,200
Speaker 1: They're catching eight home divisional dog above a touchdown. Historically,

1461
01:16:51,479 --> 01:16:54,120
Speaker 1: fifty six fifty percent usually a good bet total when

1462
01:16:54,120 --> 01:17:00,320
Speaker 1: the totals below forty two seventy. Historically, I just don't

1463
01:17:00,360 --> 01:17:03,240
Speaker 1: trust this Broncos offense. Now do I trust? The Raiders

1464
01:17:03,520 --> 01:17:05,920
Speaker 1: offensive line is a disaster. Of g know Smith's a disaster,

1465
01:17:06,200 --> 01:17:09,640
Speaker 1: It's all a disaster. But this Broncos offense will go

1466
01:17:09,720 --> 01:17:13,080
Speaker 1: in like bo Knicks, will just be completely He can't

1467
01:17:13,080 --> 01:17:16,160
Speaker 1: complete a pass for quarters. It's very difficult for them

1468
01:17:16,160 --> 01:17:19,000
Speaker 1: to bill margin. There are games away from home this year,

1469
01:17:19,760 --> 01:17:22,800
Speaker 1: they lost to the Chargers and the Colts. They beat

1470
01:17:22,840 --> 01:17:26,080
Speaker 1: the Eagles by four, crazy comeback, the Jets by two,

1471
01:17:27,439 --> 01:17:29,280
Speaker 1: it was twelve to ten. The Jets had negative ten

1472
01:17:29,320 --> 01:17:32,599
Speaker 1: passing yards, the one by two, the Texans by three,

1473
01:17:32,800 --> 01:17:35,479
Speaker 1: crazy comeback when Stroud got hurt against Davis Mills, and

1474
01:17:35,520 --> 01:17:39,160
Speaker 1: then Washington by one in overtime. So they're four and

1475
01:17:39,200 --> 01:17:42,040
Speaker 1: two of a plus six point different show on the road.

1476
01:17:42,360 --> 01:17:44,040
Speaker 1: They haven't won a game by more than four away

1477
01:17:44,040 --> 01:17:47,840
Speaker 1: from home, so and their defense is coming off a

1478
01:17:47,880 --> 01:17:49,839
Speaker 1: game where they're on the field for one hundred plays

1479
01:17:50,240 --> 01:17:53,559
Speaker 1: in overtime in primetime. Now another road game, you should

1480
01:17:53,600 --> 01:17:55,880
Speaker 1: get the Raiders' best effort. And these two teams played

1481
01:17:55,920 --> 01:17:58,479
Speaker 1: in Denver, with the Raiders coming off of an overtime

1482
01:17:58,520 --> 01:18:00,400
Speaker 1: game where they're defense on the field ninety on a

1483
01:18:00,439 --> 01:18:03,160
Speaker 1: short week, teams were six and twenty six against the

1484
01:18:03,160 --> 01:18:06,680
Speaker 1: spread in this spot short week, go into altitude and

1485
01:18:06,720 --> 01:18:09,439
Speaker 1: the Raiders won lost ten to seven. That was the

1486
01:18:09,479 --> 01:18:13,440
Speaker 1: score in the first meeting. So it's it's horrible, I

1487
01:18:13,840 --> 01:18:15,479
Speaker 1: but I did bet the Raiders plus eight.

1488
01:18:15,880 --> 01:18:20,120
Speaker 2: Well, my last hammer is the Saints that fit that

1489
01:18:20,160 --> 01:18:23,559
Speaker 2: criteria because the over unders forty one and a half.

1490
01:18:24,120 --> 01:18:26,040
Speaker 2: You know, you look at the Tampa obviously they had

1491
01:18:26,080 --> 01:18:28,439
Speaker 2: that struggle, that three game losing streak where they were

1492
01:18:28,439 --> 01:18:30,439
Speaker 2: in shambles. I mean, it's not like they blew out

1493
01:18:30,479 --> 01:18:33,439
Speaker 2: the Cardinals last week. Now, in fairness, the Cardinals are

1494
01:18:33,479 --> 01:18:35,160
Speaker 2: going to be like one of the truly great four

1495
01:18:35,200 --> 01:18:37,280
Speaker 2: and thirteen teams of all time because they've been in

1496
01:18:37,320 --> 01:18:41,280
Speaker 2: like the overwhelming majority of every game. Yeah, so I'm

1497
01:18:41,320 --> 01:18:42,880
Speaker 2: just taking the Saints here plus eight and a half.

1498
01:18:42,920 --> 01:18:45,559
Speaker 2: And it's more of a bet against Tampa that you know,

1499
01:18:45,640 --> 01:18:48,880
Speaker 2: the injuries. Obviously Baker hasn't been right all year. You know,

1500
01:18:48,920 --> 01:18:51,160
Speaker 2: once he kind of got banged up, it looked like

1501
01:18:51,200 --> 01:18:54,000
Speaker 2: an MVP there through like a month, which at the

1502
01:18:54,000 --> 01:18:55,719
Speaker 2: time you get them like twenty five to one coming

1503
01:18:55,720 --> 01:18:57,479
Speaker 2: in I think it was actually fifty to one coming

1504
01:18:57,479 --> 01:18:59,120
Speaker 2: into the season and went down to like twenty five

1505
01:18:59,160 --> 01:19:02,000
Speaker 2: twenty to one. Now he's got really no chance, even

1506
01:19:02,040 --> 01:19:06,599
Speaker 2: though the MVP discussion is really wide open. I just listen,

1507
01:19:06,600 --> 01:19:08,800
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna be some big believer in the Saints.

1508
01:19:08,840 --> 01:19:11,880
Speaker 2: They've got two wins, but it feels like a number

1509
01:19:11,880 --> 01:19:13,560
Speaker 2: that's very, very coverable.

1510
01:19:15,320 --> 01:19:18,000
Speaker 1: Bucks offense has quietly been a disaster. I mean, since

1511
01:19:18,040 --> 01:19:20,240
Speaker 1: Week nine, they're twenty fourth in EPA per play.

1512
01:19:20,640 --> 01:19:22,439
Speaker 2: Why do you think that is a lot?

1513
01:19:22,520 --> 01:19:24,560
Speaker 1: There's a just I don't think Baker's fully healthy. I

1514
01:19:24,560 --> 01:19:26,680
Speaker 1: mean last week against you mentioned the Cardinals out gain

1515
01:19:26,760 --> 01:19:29,519
Speaker 1: them three eighty six to two seventy nine six point

1516
01:19:29,560 --> 01:19:31,800
Speaker 1: three yards per play Bucks four point nine.

1517
01:19:32,280 --> 01:19:34,080
Speaker 2: Cardinals are bad. They're not, but.

1518
01:19:34,080 --> 01:19:36,160
Speaker 1: I'm saying the BUNC should have lost that game sisticly.

1519
01:19:38,240 --> 01:19:40,960
Speaker 1: Their offense wasn't great, and I mean there's just been

1520
01:19:41,000 --> 01:19:43,559
Speaker 1: so many injuries with the Bucks, right So you've had

1521
01:19:43,640 --> 01:19:46,400
Speaker 1: all the injuries in the backfield, the offensive line, wide receiver,

1522
01:19:46,560 --> 01:19:50,479
Speaker 1: Baker's been banged up. So it's all just added up

1523
01:19:50,520 --> 01:19:54,160
Speaker 1: and the operation is just broken right now. Now, Is

1524
01:19:54,160 --> 01:19:56,360
Speaker 1: there at some point an inflection point? Where like as

1525
01:19:56,400 --> 01:19:59,240
Speaker 1: they get healthier, you're going to start to see that

1526
01:19:59,320 --> 01:20:02,400
Speaker 1: offense trend up. Maybe this is that the the you know,

1527
01:20:02,479 --> 01:20:06,920
Speaker 1: the bottom as far as the market on their offense. Maybe,

1528
01:20:07,479 --> 01:20:11,720
Speaker 1: but until I see further evidence, yeah, I have no

1529
01:20:11,760 --> 01:20:15,840
Speaker 1: interest in wanting to lay eight and a half with Tampa. Now,

1530
01:20:16,160 --> 01:20:17,920
Speaker 1: the Saints won't be able to run the ball at all,

1531
01:20:17,960 --> 01:20:20,599
Speaker 1: Like they'll have zero rushing yards in this game, So

1532
01:20:20,640 --> 01:20:25,200
Speaker 1: it's just gonna be shuck against the Blitz having to

1533
01:20:25,240 --> 01:20:28,720
Speaker 1: throw it, which might is a bit concerning, But the

1534
01:20:28,720 --> 01:20:31,120
Speaker 1: Saints defense is fighty enough to keep them in this game.

1535
01:20:32,200 --> 01:20:34,479
Speaker 2: I don't have that Campa kind of needs to win.

1536
01:20:34,600 --> 01:20:37,479
Speaker 2: I mean, you lose, you're seven and six, Carolina seven

1537
01:20:37,520 --> 01:20:40,240
Speaker 2: and six, you still play them twice. Carolina would have

1538
01:20:40,320 --> 01:20:42,640
Speaker 2: nothing to lose, right, they got house money. You know,

1539
01:20:42,680 --> 01:20:45,240
Speaker 2: there's all the pressure would be on Tampa in those games.

1540
01:20:45,720 --> 01:20:48,520
Speaker 2: This could get weird. I mean this is this obviously,

1541
01:20:48,680 --> 01:20:51,479
Speaker 2: you know it must win when you're playing bad teams,

1542
01:20:51,560 --> 01:20:54,759
Speaker 2: but like when you're just not playing well, it would

1543
01:20:54,800 --> 01:20:56,479
Speaker 2: shock you if it's like ten ten in the third

1544
01:20:56,520 --> 01:20:57,240
Speaker 2: quarter or something.

1545
01:20:57,960 --> 01:21:05,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean last year in Week eighteen in Tampa,

1546
01:21:07,080 --> 01:21:13,799
Speaker 1: the Bucks needed to win, and they were playing Spencer

1547
01:21:13,880 --> 01:21:15,800
Speaker 1: Rattler and.

1548
01:21:15,920 --> 01:21:18,320
Speaker 2: Crazy comeback when he took off on the run, right.

1549
01:21:18,200 --> 01:21:21,240
Speaker 1: They were down nineteen thirteen in the fourth quarter in

1550
01:21:21,280 --> 01:21:23,240
Speaker 1: one twenty seven nineteen, like they were on the brink

1551
01:21:23,280 --> 01:21:29,840
Speaker 1: of losing that game. So yeah, that's the Panthers win

1552
01:21:29,920 --> 01:21:34,040
Speaker 1: over the Rams was enormous for many reasons. I mean,

1553
01:21:34,080 --> 01:21:38,240
Speaker 1: the one seed in the NFC where hold seating breaks,

1554
01:21:38,240 --> 01:21:41,320
Speaker 1: but also that division race, Like they were ten point dogs,

1555
01:21:41,880 --> 01:21:43,599
Speaker 1: you assume that they were going to lose that game.

1556
01:21:43,640 --> 01:21:47,720
Speaker 1: Then picking picking that win up with two meetings with

1557
01:21:47,760 --> 01:21:52,720
Speaker 1: the Bucks left makes that division race very very interesting,

1558
01:21:54,160 --> 01:21:56,760
Speaker 1: especially since you know the Panthers go, they have a

1559
01:21:56,800 --> 01:22:01,360
Speaker 1: bye in the Saints, and you know they have a

1560
01:22:01,400 --> 01:22:03,599
Speaker 1: game they host the Seahawks, and then they have two

1561
01:22:03,640 --> 01:22:08,120
Speaker 1: games against the Bucks. So yeah, that division race is

1562
01:22:08,160 --> 01:22:11,080
Speaker 1: going to be super interesting. I'm excited there's been a

1563
01:22:11,120 --> 01:22:13,559
Speaker 1: lot of boring games in the NFL this year because

1564
01:22:13,920 --> 01:22:17,080
Speaker 1: there's just a lot more there's more parody at the

1565
01:22:17,120 --> 01:22:21,519
Speaker 1: top overall. I mean, think about the AFC, the f S.

1566
01:22:21,600 --> 01:22:28,479
Speaker 1: There's a world where Lamar, Mahomes, Burrow, and Alan all

1567
01:22:28,479 --> 01:22:31,000
Speaker 1: missed the playoffs. But there's a lot more parody at

1568
01:22:31,000 --> 01:22:34,080
Speaker 1: the top, but there's a lot more. Just the bottom

1569
01:22:34,760 --> 01:22:38,879
Speaker 1: is bad to get just some really bad football games.

1570
01:22:39,200 --> 01:22:44,080
Speaker 1: But now this stretch run over the last five weeks

1571
01:22:45,120 --> 01:22:47,559
Speaker 1: is going to be really exciting. I mean just this weekend,

1572
01:22:47,840 --> 01:22:50,800
Speaker 1: This weekend is gonna set I mean this weekend could

1573
01:22:50,840 --> 01:22:52,920
Speaker 1: decide so many things. You have Raven Steelers, which could

1574
01:22:52,920 --> 01:22:55,679
Speaker 1: decide the division and a playoff spot with the loser

1575
01:22:56,120 --> 01:22:59,640
Speaker 1: potentially beating out. We're recording this on a Thursday, so

1576
01:22:59,680 --> 01:23:01,720
Speaker 1: you'll know the result of ready. But Cowboys Lions could

1577
01:23:01,760 --> 01:23:04,760
Speaker 1: be an elimination game in the NFC playoffs, you have.

1578
01:23:06,200 --> 01:23:08,120
Speaker 2: It definitely is for the I mean, the Lions lose,

1579
01:23:08,320 --> 01:23:12,400
Speaker 2: the Niners Bears would feel like they're both in right.

1580
01:23:12,520 --> 01:23:14,639
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah. And the Cowboys, I mean they're six five

1581
01:23:14,680 --> 01:23:16,080
Speaker 1: and one, they got a pretty.

1582
01:23:15,800 --> 01:23:18,080
Speaker 2: Much they got to win the division now and.

1583
01:23:18,040 --> 01:23:20,720
Speaker 1: Win the division. Eagles, I mean they have a tough

1584
01:23:20,760 --> 01:23:22,760
Speaker 1: schedule and they just Jalen Carter looks like he's gonna

1585
01:23:22,760 --> 01:23:25,000
Speaker 1: be out for a couple of weeks, which.

1586
01:23:24,880 --> 01:23:26,880
Speaker 2: Just happened to him. I must miss that.

1587
01:23:27,680 --> 01:23:29,599
Speaker 1: Yeah, that came out like a half hour ago. He's

1588
01:23:29,640 --> 01:23:35,040
Speaker 1: gonna have surgery. Wow, So that definitely hurts their defense,

1589
01:23:35,520 --> 01:23:37,639
Speaker 1: not a position that they have a ton of depth at.

1590
01:23:37,720 --> 01:23:41,559
Speaker 2: But well, he's just such a difference making player because.

1591
01:23:43,120 --> 01:23:45,120
Speaker 1: Man so much attention. But I mean that game Monday

1592
01:23:45,160 --> 01:23:49,679
Speaker 1: night Eagles Chargers, Eagles lose, Cowboys win, That division gets

1593
01:23:49,680 --> 01:23:52,559
Speaker 1: a lot shakier. I mean, Eagles played the Commanders twice more.

1594
01:23:52,640 --> 01:23:55,080
Speaker 1: Daniels will be back. They go to the Bills. All

1595
01:23:55,080 --> 01:23:57,920
Speaker 1: of a sudden, it gets shaky for them. Chargers in

1596
01:23:58,000 --> 01:24:01,200
Speaker 1: the AFC. They lose this game. You know, they're eight

1597
01:24:01,200 --> 01:24:02,280
Speaker 1: and four now they it was this game. They go

1598
01:24:02,320 --> 01:24:04,639
Speaker 1: to eight and five. You have the Herbert hand question.

1599
01:24:04,720 --> 01:24:07,600
Speaker 1: You still have an offensive line. Their remaining schedule is

1600
01:24:07,640 --> 01:24:10,799
Speaker 1: at the Chiefs, at the Cowboys home against the Texans

1601
01:24:10,840 --> 01:24:14,880
Speaker 1: at the Broncos. All of a sudden, that gets really dicey.

1602
01:24:15,120 --> 01:24:18,519
Speaker 1: You have the Texans Chiefs is that Sunday night. That's

1603
01:24:18,560 --> 01:24:21,880
Speaker 1: potentially an elimination game. If Chiefs louse, they go to

1604
01:24:21,920 --> 01:24:23,400
Speaker 1: six and seven. On the year, they don't have a

1605
01:24:23,400 --> 01:24:25,719
Speaker 1: tie break over anyone ahead of them. They've lost almost

1606
01:24:25,760 --> 01:24:27,840
Speaker 1: every other team that they would be batting for. Bear's

1607
01:24:27,920 --> 01:24:33,479
Speaker 1: Packers for first place. I mean, just awesome, high leverage

1608
01:24:33,800 --> 01:24:37,040
Speaker 1: playoff leverage games this weekend. So the NFL is gonna

1609
01:24:37,040 --> 01:24:38,800
Speaker 1: get really good from now all the way through the

1610
01:24:38,840 --> 01:24:39,360
Speaker 1: Super Bowl.

1611
01:24:39,560 --> 01:24:41,320
Speaker 2: Well, let's talk about a couple of the big games.

1612
01:24:42,000 --> 01:24:46,360
Speaker 2: Indy at Jacksonville. INDI's leaking some serious oil. Sauces now

1613
01:24:46,400 --> 01:24:50,759
Speaker 2: out their quarterback. Obviously shelled himself even before he got injured.

1614
01:24:50,800 --> 01:24:53,400
Speaker 2: Once he started getting hit, and now it's not gonna

1615
01:24:53,439 --> 01:24:55,840
Speaker 2: be the same. You know, it's not like I love Jacksonville,

1616
01:24:55,880 --> 01:24:58,519
Speaker 2: but this is one of those games Indy could be

1617
01:24:58,520 --> 01:25:03,160
Speaker 2: in trouble. Assuming I like Houston at Kansas City. You know,

1618
01:25:03,280 --> 01:25:05,639
Speaker 2: just that their ability to rush the passers. Simmons now

1619
01:25:05,680 --> 01:25:08,840
Speaker 2: is on ir right with a broken wrist, so and

1620
01:25:09,040 --> 01:25:10,559
Speaker 2: that would have been a tough matchup for a rookie

1621
01:25:10,560 --> 01:25:12,800
Speaker 2: against those pass rushers in general. So there's gonna be

1622
01:25:12,800 --> 01:25:16,080
Speaker 2: a drop off there if Houston wins. Like to me, Houston,

1623
01:25:17,040 --> 01:25:19,840
Speaker 2: if they take care of business against Kansas City, they

1624
01:25:19,920 --> 01:25:22,439
Speaker 2: just need these two teams when they play just somehow

1625
01:25:22,560 --> 01:25:25,240
Speaker 2: split is the way I've looked at it. I don't know

1626
01:25:25,280 --> 01:25:27,920
Speaker 2: if you look at it differently. I have some futures

1627
01:25:27,920 --> 01:25:30,320
Speaker 2: on Houston win this division. It's still alive. They got

1628
01:25:30,439 --> 01:25:33,000
Speaker 2: to win, but they just need whoever wins this game

1629
01:25:33,080 --> 01:25:34,639
Speaker 2: and then that other team to win the other game

1630
01:25:34,640 --> 01:25:36,960
Speaker 2: when they play each other, and then I just think

1631
01:25:36,960 --> 01:25:40,320
Speaker 2: they are that defense is just ferocious. That is the

1632
01:25:40,320 --> 01:25:42,599
Speaker 2: best unit of these three teams, would you agree?

1633
01:25:42,840 --> 01:25:48,519
Speaker 1: Yes? Yeah? And they host the Cardinals and Raiders next, so.

1634
01:25:48,920 --> 01:25:50,439
Speaker 2: This is their season. They just got to go to

1635
01:25:50,520 --> 01:25:51,320
Speaker 2: Kansas City and win.

1636
01:25:51,560 --> 01:25:54,080
Speaker 1: Yep, find a way to win a team they haven't

1637
01:25:54,080 --> 01:25:56,280
Speaker 1: been able to be like yeah. I mean, the Chiefs

1638
01:25:56,680 --> 01:26:02,200
Speaker 1: have other offensive line injuries as well. I haven't seen

1639
01:26:02,200 --> 01:26:05,479
Speaker 1: their injury report, but Trey Smith, their stud right guard

1640
01:26:05,520 --> 01:26:07,920
Speaker 1: Taylor got banged up last week, so you get a

1641
01:26:07,960 --> 01:26:13,759
Speaker 1: three herd offensive lineman against that defensive line could be trouble.

1642
01:26:13,760 --> 01:26:15,679
Speaker 1: And the Texans offense is improving like what he marks

1643
01:26:15,720 --> 01:26:18,040
Speaker 1: gives them some juice and out of the backfield, their

1644
01:26:18,040 --> 01:26:21,160
Speaker 1: offensive line has been getting better. And then when Nico

1645
01:26:21,240 --> 01:26:25,639
Speaker 1: Collins was out, these other receivers were able to kind

1646
01:26:25,640 --> 01:26:29,480
Speaker 1: of step up, build confidence and like a guy like Higgins.

1647
01:26:29,680 --> 01:26:33,880
Speaker 1: So their entire offense operation is improving. So the Texans

1648
01:26:33,920 --> 01:26:36,120
Speaker 1: are a really dangerous team. I don't if you're in

1649
01:26:36,120 --> 01:26:37,800
Speaker 1: the se you don't want to see the Texans in

1650
01:26:37,800 --> 01:26:39,800
Speaker 1: the playoffs. You don't want to see that defense that

1651
01:26:40,479 --> 01:26:43,800
Speaker 1: they will be in every game because of it. So, yeah,

1652
01:26:43,840 --> 01:26:46,479
Speaker 1: they're they're super loud to win the division, but this game,

1653
01:26:47,080 --> 01:26:48,400
Speaker 1: they're not out of it if they lose it, but

1654
01:26:48,400 --> 01:26:51,360
Speaker 1: it's going to be very tough. And then the Chiefs

1655
01:26:51,360 --> 01:26:54,240
Speaker 1: are So they lose their six and seven, they could

1656
01:26:54,240 --> 01:26:59,080
Speaker 1: get the ten and seven, but that doesn't guarantee anything.

1657
01:27:00,160 --> 01:27:02,680
Speaker 1: And yeah, this might be lights out for the chief

1658
01:27:02,720 --> 01:27:05,080
Speaker 1: especially they have no time They lose every timebreaker with everyone.

1659
01:27:05,080 --> 01:27:06,760
Speaker 1: I mean, they lost to the Jags, they lost to

1660
01:27:06,800 --> 01:27:09,519
Speaker 1: the Bills, they would have lost to the Texans, like

1661
01:27:09,560 --> 01:27:13,200
Speaker 1: basically just the Colts. So yeah, I taking the three

1662
01:27:13,200 --> 01:27:14,479
Speaker 1: and a half. Find a three and a half there,

1663
01:27:14,479 --> 01:27:16,400
Speaker 1: I think makes sense. These are also the two best

1664
01:27:16,479 --> 01:27:19,240
Speaker 1: under teams in the NFL over the past three years.

1665
01:27:19,320 --> 01:27:21,120
Speaker 1: Texans unders are just a cash go. I mean they're

1666
01:27:21,160 --> 01:27:22,880
Speaker 1: thirty one and fifteen of the under over the past

1667
01:27:22,880 --> 01:27:26,080
Speaker 1: three years sixty seven and a half percent. The next

1668
01:27:26,080 --> 01:27:29,280
Speaker 1: best under team is the Chiefs thirty and sixteen, sixty

1669
01:27:29,320 --> 01:27:32,760
Speaker 1: five percent. The Chiefs unders at home over the past

1670
01:27:32,760 --> 01:27:36,120
Speaker 1: three years seventeen and six. They just go on these

1671
01:27:36,120 --> 01:27:37,200
Speaker 1: and this is what they're gonna have to do this

1672
01:27:37,360 --> 01:27:40,800
Speaker 1: on Sunday night, they're gonna have to go on these

1673
01:27:41,160 --> 01:27:43,360
Speaker 1: long and they can do this at home. They go

1674
01:27:43,400 --> 01:27:46,040
Speaker 1: on these long, methodical drives where it's like dnk and

1675
01:27:46,120 --> 01:27:49,519
Speaker 1: dunk and dank and dunk and then thirty one run.

1676
01:27:50,280 --> 01:27:51,920
Speaker 1: That's what they're gonna do because Moman's not gonna have

1677
01:27:51,960 --> 01:27:55,880
Speaker 1: any time here and no protection. So I don't mind

1678
01:27:55,880 --> 01:27:57,960
Speaker 1: the under I don't mind taking the Texans there. Yeah,

1679
01:27:58,000 --> 01:27:59,360
Speaker 1: Texans are a very dangerous team.

1680
01:27:59,600 --> 01:28:02,080
Speaker 2: The chief say, actually, if they lose this game, this

1681
01:28:02,160 --> 01:28:05,120
Speaker 2: is crazy to say, are better off just finishing seven

1682
01:28:05,160 --> 01:28:07,640
Speaker 2: and ten because that would give them a position. All

1683
01:28:07,640 --> 01:28:08,920
Speaker 2: of a sudden, it's like, oh, the Chiefs have the

1684
01:28:08,960 --> 01:28:12,680
Speaker 2: fourteenth pick. They could kind of reset the run, you know,

1685
01:28:12,760 --> 01:28:15,120
Speaker 2: because they've been drafting every single year thirty thirty one,

1686
01:28:15,240 --> 01:28:18,280
Speaker 2: thirty two. All of a sudden, you're drafting fourteen. That's

1687
01:28:18,320 --> 01:28:21,280
Speaker 2: every round. Maybe the first round Beach goes from fourteen

1688
01:28:21,320 --> 01:28:24,400
Speaker 2: to like eight to get some incredible pass rusher or something.

1689
01:28:24,800 --> 01:28:26,920
Speaker 2: You could just kind of reset your franchise with some

1690
01:28:27,000 --> 01:28:29,720
Speaker 2: players who are cheap that they just haven't I mean,

1691
01:28:29,720 --> 01:28:32,840
Speaker 2: they're they taken swings on Worthy who worthy out of

1692
01:28:32,840 --> 01:28:35,000
Speaker 2: play in that Sunday night game, or maybe it was

1693
01:28:35,040 --> 01:28:37,240
Speaker 2: a couple weeks ago. It's like, he's good, but he's

1694
01:28:37,240 --> 01:28:39,800
Speaker 2: not quite. I mean, he's clear, he's not Deshaun Jackson

1695
01:28:39,880 --> 01:28:42,200
Speaker 2: or Tyreek Hill or whatever. It's just but that's what

1696
01:28:42,320 --> 01:28:44,479
Speaker 2: happens when you drafted the end of the rounds, so

1697
01:28:44,520 --> 01:28:46,680
Speaker 2: you you just don't have the act. They would be

1698
01:28:46,720 --> 01:28:48,799
Speaker 2: the first to say, it's pretty crazy that Josh Shimmons

1699
01:28:48,840 --> 01:28:51,040
Speaker 2: is sitting there. I mean we all agreed. I mean,

1700
01:28:51,040 --> 01:28:52,760
Speaker 2: there were some question marks with his injury and some

1701
01:28:52,800 --> 01:28:54,760
Speaker 2: other stuff, but he was like one of the more

1702
01:28:54,840 --> 01:28:58,519
Speaker 2: talented players in the draft. Right Typically they're gonna be

1703
01:28:58,560 --> 01:29:01,680
Speaker 2: picking from Xavier Worthy or key On Coleman, right, Well,

1704
01:29:01,720 --> 01:29:05,280
Speaker 2: that that's not the case if you're drafting fourteenth and

1705
01:29:05,280 --> 01:29:07,680
Speaker 2: and I just think that they are picking from a

1706
01:29:07,720 --> 01:29:10,479
Speaker 2: litter of players that way, and who knows, maybe last

1707
01:29:10,520 --> 01:29:12,200
Speaker 2: couple of weeks you just kind of it's not worth

1708
01:29:12,200 --> 01:29:14,559
Speaker 2: getting Mahomes a major injury and like you know, when

1709
01:29:14,600 --> 01:29:17,160
Speaker 2: you're out of it. Uh. They've never been in this

1710
01:29:17,200 --> 01:29:19,960
Speaker 2: position obviously, honestly for since Andy's been there, because they've

1711
01:29:20,000 --> 01:29:22,400
Speaker 2: just been good. But this is the first time where

1712
01:29:22,400 --> 01:29:24,280
Speaker 2: it's just like Okay, he ran out of gas. I don't.

1713
01:29:24,840 --> 01:29:27,000
Speaker 2: I don't look at him any differently. I mean, they

1714
01:29:27,040 --> 01:29:29,280
Speaker 2: lost some crazy games this year. It's not like some

1715
01:29:29,360 --> 01:29:31,439
Speaker 2: indictment on the run. I think it just was a

1716
01:29:31,520 --> 01:29:32,599
Speaker 2: year that didn't go there well.

1717
01:29:32,600 --> 01:29:34,439
Speaker 1: I mean last year they were eleven in home one games.

1718
01:29:34,439 --> 01:29:39,920
Speaker 1: This year they've lost by six three three, seven, three

1719
01:29:40,800 --> 01:29:44,840
Speaker 1: and three, So they're one in six and one position

1720
01:29:44,880 --> 01:29:45,360
Speaker 1: games this year.

1721
01:29:45,400 --> 01:29:47,640
Speaker 2: To mean, their defense clearly just doesn't quite quite have

1722
01:29:47,720 --> 01:29:50,040
Speaker 2: the same momth. They're missing a couple of players. Carlofftin

1723
01:29:50,200 --> 01:29:52,560
Speaker 2: get the same pressure, not quite the same player. I

1724
01:29:52,600 --> 01:29:54,639
Speaker 2: think they had hoped that he was going to continue

1725
01:29:54,680 --> 01:29:55,120
Speaker 2: to become.

1726
01:29:56,280 --> 01:30:00,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, now I agree with you. But if they in

1727
01:30:00,160 --> 01:30:03,960
Speaker 1: this game, and it's just the narratives, actually so will

1728
01:30:04,000 --> 01:30:06,080
Speaker 1: change Draska for both these teams, depending on the olcome here.

1729
01:30:06,120 --> 01:30:07,479
Speaker 1: They win this game, they're seven and six, and the

1730
01:30:07,479 --> 01:30:10,080
Speaker 1: remaining schedule is you got revenge against the Chargers at

1731
01:30:10,080 --> 01:30:13,080
Speaker 1: home with the Bank of Herbert, no offensive line at

1732
01:30:13,080 --> 01:30:17,240
Speaker 1: the Titans, revenge against the Broncos at home at the Raiders.

1733
01:30:17,840 --> 01:30:20,719
Speaker 1: To win this game. All of a sudden, it's looking

1734
01:30:21,360 --> 01:30:23,920
Speaker 1: decent chance. You're going to eleven and six and the Chiefs

1735
01:30:23,920 --> 01:30:25,680
Speaker 1: are back in the playoffs and they're always gonna be

1736
01:30:25,720 --> 01:30:28,280
Speaker 1: dangers in the playoffs. So but if you lose the

1737
01:30:28,360 --> 01:30:29,600
Speaker 1: best you can get his ten and seven, I'm not

1738
01:30:29,600 --> 01:30:31,680
Speaker 1: sure they getsch in the playoffs in the FC, so

1739
01:30:31,800 --> 01:30:35,439
Speaker 1: especially Becau you're gonna lose every tie breaker. So yeah,

1740
01:30:35,560 --> 01:30:37,400
Speaker 1: huge game for both teams. And then what was the

1741
01:30:37,400 --> 01:30:42,400
Speaker 1: other game you mentioned first Andie Jacksonville. Yeah, I'm waiting

1742
01:30:42,439 --> 01:30:46,160
Speaker 1: for the Jags. Look that the cheap the Colts defense

1743
01:30:46,240 --> 01:30:48,719
Speaker 1: is not the same without Sauce corner. He his lockdown

1744
01:30:48,760 --> 01:30:53,040
Speaker 1: corner was gonna make you know with Ward and Kenny Moore,

1745
01:30:53,120 --> 01:30:55,519
Speaker 1: they were gonna have one of the best corner groups

1746
01:30:55,560 --> 01:30:58,000
Speaker 1: in the NFL. Without him, they just don't have the

1747
01:30:58,000 --> 01:30:59,960
Speaker 1: same flexibility. They're also not the same group with alt

1748
01:31:00,240 --> 01:31:04,240
Speaker 1: to Forest Buckner in the middle, with to Forest Buckner

1749
01:31:04,720 --> 01:31:08,240
Speaker 1: and Grover Stort in the lineup versus when one of

1750
01:31:08,280 --> 01:31:11,360
Speaker 1: them's not on the field, they give up one yard

1751
01:31:11,400 --> 01:31:14,960
Speaker 1: more per rush. So if both were on the field,

1752
01:31:14,960 --> 01:31:17,200
Speaker 1: they're allowing one yard fewer p rush and that's important

1753
01:31:17,200 --> 01:31:21,160
Speaker 1: against the Jags. Basically, with the Jags, you want any

1754
01:31:21,200 --> 01:31:23,280
Speaker 1: liam counting, you want to say, first, can they run

1755
01:31:23,320 --> 01:31:25,479
Speaker 1: the ball, and if they're able to run the ball,

1756
01:31:25,640 --> 01:31:27,880
Speaker 1: everything else stems from that. And they have one of

1757
01:31:27,880 --> 01:31:30,960
Speaker 1: the best, most dynamic, well schemed running games in the NFL.

1758
01:31:31,520 --> 01:31:33,880
Speaker 1: And then you have Daniel Jones, who's playing with a

1759
01:31:33,920 --> 01:31:38,080
Speaker 1: broken leg, doesn't have that same lateral movement taking more

1760
01:31:38,160 --> 01:31:43,880
Speaker 1: sacks now, and it's it's just not going well. I mean,

1761
01:31:43,880 --> 01:31:46,200
Speaker 1: they're lucky that they've won. They beat the Falcons in overtime,

1762
01:31:46,240 --> 01:31:51,720
Speaker 1: Otherwise they would have lost four straight. And their schedule

1763
01:31:52,120 --> 01:31:55,400
Speaker 1: is brutal coming down the stretch. I mean, Colt Slew's

1764
01:31:55,439 --> 01:31:59,479
Speaker 1: this game can make a case that they don't win

1765
01:31:59,520 --> 01:32:04,240
Speaker 1: another game. I mean they're at Seattle, they got Sant

1766
01:32:04,280 --> 01:32:08,160
Speaker 1: Fran Jacksonville again, then at Houston, so they could go

1767
01:32:08,200 --> 01:32:10,519
Speaker 1: from looking like the one seed a month ago to

1768
01:32:10,560 --> 01:32:13,000
Speaker 1: missing the playoffs very quickly if they don't win this game,

1769
01:32:13,080 --> 01:32:14,760
Speaker 1: and it's a place where they have it won very

1770
01:32:14,760 --> 01:32:18,280
Speaker 1: often over the past ten years. The Jags, I don't.

1771
01:32:19,120 --> 01:32:21,160
Speaker 1: I think they're a decent team. They're not a great team.

1772
01:32:21,360 --> 01:32:22,960
Speaker 1: They do have some good wins this year. I mean, look,

1773
01:32:22,960 --> 01:32:26,240
Speaker 1: they beat the Texans, they beat the Chiefs at home,

1774
01:32:26,680 --> 01:32:28,640
Speaker 1: they won at Sant fram when they were healthier. They

1775
01:32:28,680 --> 01:32:32,320
Speaker 1: dominated the Chargers. They've been much better at home, and

1776
01:32:32,479 --> 01:32:35,120
Speaker 1: Jacoby Myers has been an amazing addition. He's not dropping

1777
01:32:35,120 --> 01:32:37,080
Speaker 1: the ball, he's providing juice to the offense. They got

1778
01:32:37,080 --> 01:32:40,719
Speaker 1: Brenton strange back. I do want to see the injury

1779
01:32:40,760 --> 01:32:46,120
Speaker 1: report for the Jags. Armstead, Trevron Walker, Olokon, Devin Lloyd.

1780
01:32:46,160 --> 01:32:50,000
Speaker 1: They all are banged up. You want that full compliment

1781
01:32:50,560 --> 01:32:53,559
Speaker 1: of your defensive front to not only stop Jonathan Taylor,

1782
01:32:54,160 --> 01:32:57,840
Speaker 1: but to get after Jones with his hurt leg. So

1783
01:32:57,880 --> 01:33:00,479
Speaker 1: I think the injury report for the Jags very critical.

1784
01:33:01,439 --> 01:33:03,519
Speaker 1: Huge game. I think it's more of a toss up.

1785
01:33:03,720 --> 01:33:05,680
Speaker 1: I wouldn't I don't mind anyone taking the points if

1786
01:33:05,720 --> 01:33:07,560
Speaker 1: you wanted to tease the Jags. I don't have a

1787
01:33:07,600 --> 01:33:10,680
Speaker 1: strong feel on it. There's a lot of injuries that

1788
01:33:10,680 --> 01:33:12,360
Speaker 1: I'm watching for the Jags as of right now.

1789
01:33:12,640 --> 01:33:14,599
Speaker 2: Do you think it's a good indictment on Anthony Richson

1790
01:33:14,640 --> 01:33:16,920
Speaker 2: They rather roll with Daniel Jones on a broken leg

1791
01:33:17,080 --> 01:33:21,160
Speaker 2: than him. Yeah, not ideal.

1792
01:33:21,120 --> 01:33:37,240
Speaker 1: Not great. And you have Packers packers bears.

1793
01:33:37,320 --> 01:33:39,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, let's hit on that. I mean a couple of

1794
01:33:39,240 --> 01:33:41,320
Speaker 2: weeks ago, hell, a month ago would have been like

1795
01:33:41,360 --> 01:33:44,040
Speaker 2: I'm a Hammer of the Green Bay. It does feel

1796
01:33:44,080 --> 01:33:45,920
Speaker 2: like the Bears. I mean, we get these type teams

1797
01:33:45,960 --> 01:33:48,680
Speaker 2: every once in a while. Minnesota was like this what

1798
01:33:48,880 --> 01:33:51,000
Speaker 2: that That Kirk Cousins year when they I think won

1799
01:33:51,040 --> 01:33:51,719
Speaker 2: twelve games.

1800
01:33:52,479 --> 01:33:53,800
Speaker 1: It's just a same Ben at the end of his

1801
01:33:53,840 --> 01:33:56,000
Speaker 1: career when they were like they started like eleven and zero.

1802
01:33:56,280 --> 01:34:00,639
Speaker 2: Just a scary team to bet against. I it's gonna

1803
01:34:00,640 --> 01:34:03,799
Speaker 2: be hard obviously for the Bears. But I mean Ben Johnson,

1804
01:34:03,880 --> 01:34:06,879
Speaker 2: I mean that performance he had on Thursday was unreal.

1805
01:34:07,000 --> 01:34:09,759
Speaker 2: I mean that made Eagles fans go, what is happening

1806
01:34:09,800 --> 01:34:13,320
Speaker 2: to us? I think Canalis saw that and was like,

1807
01:34:13,320 --> 01:34:14,920
Speaker 2: you know, I should just copy that and run the

1808
01:34:14,920 --> 01:34:17,080
Speaker 2: ball a little bit more. It's like, yeah, Dave, you should.

1809
01:34:17,720 --> 01:34:22,240
Speaker 2: And Ben Johnson, he's the Midwest Kyle Shanahan. You don't

1810
01:34:22,280 --> 01:34:24,920
Speaker 2: see many of these young coaches in college or the

1811
01:34:24,920 --> 01:34:27,599
Speaker 2: pros that are play callers, that are the head coach

1812
01:34:27,920 --> 01:34:30,840
Speaker 2: that consistently like I would rather run it forty times

1813
01:34:30,840 --> 01:34:33,120
Speaker 2: a game than pass at fifty and he would rather

1814
01:34:33,640 --> 01:34:37,320
Speaker 2: even if Caleb Williams was the best quarterback in the league.

1815
01:34:37,600 --> 01:34:40,240
Speaker 2: I don't think his philosophical belief on how to play

1816
01:34:40,240 --> 01:34:43,800
Speaker 2: football would change, which I respect because those days we

1817
01:34:43,880 --> 01:34:46,080
Speaker 2: just don't really have them anymore. I mean even Sean Payton.

1818
01:34:46,680 --> 01:34:48,920
Speaker 2: It's like Sean call some Moore runs for your guy.

1819
01:34:49,200 --> 01:34:51,080
Speaker 2: But these guys like to pass. I mean, listen, I

1820
01:34:51,160 --> 01:34:53,840
Speaker 2: love coach Reid. Coach Reid, if you had to give

1821
01:34:53,880 --> 01:34:56,120
Speaker 2: him a choice, he would throw it every time if

1822
01:34:56,120 --> 01:34:58,160
Speaker 2: he could, you know. And it's just a lot of

1823
01:34:58,160 --> 01:34:59,920
Speaker 2: these coaches like passing the ball more. And Ben jons

1824
01:35:00,000 --> 01:35:03,280
Speaker 2: Wson not only likes calling runs, he's a great run schemer.

1825
01:35:03,360 --> 01:35:05,920
Speaker 2: I mean some of the breakdowns of using those tight

1826
01:35:06,000 --> 01:35:09,960
Speaker 2: ends and motions, like it was incredible that performs he

1827
01:35:10,000 --> 01:35:12,240
Speaker 2: had on against Philly, but he's done that all year

1828
01:35:12,280 --> 01:35:15,840
Speaker 2: long running the ball. So I just think that this

1829
01:35:15,920 --> 01:35:18,680
Speaker 2: is gonna be a really fun matchup. I guess I

1830
01:35:18,680 --> 01:35:20,160
Speaker 2: would have to take the Bears, and this is a

1831
01:35:20,200 --> 01:35:22,320
Speaker 2: stay away from me. I just can't wait to watch

1832
01:35:22,360 --> 01:35:25,200
Speaker 2: this game. But Ben Johnson has been a fucking stud

1833
01:35:25,479 --> 01:35:25,880
Speaker 2: this year.

1834
01:35:27,000 --> 01:35:29,479
Speaker 1: We look at the Lions. Part of the reason I

1835
01:35:29,520 --> 01:35:32,200
Speaker 1: know their their intier offensive line isn't as good, but

1836
01:35:32,640 --> 01:35:35,360
Speaker 1: their run game all year has not been anywhere close

1837
01:35:35,400 --> 01:35:37,679
Speaker 1: to what it was. Their offense hasn't been operating anywhere

1838
01:35:37,680 --> 01:35:38,840
Speaker 1: close to what it was and a lot of that.

1839
01:35:39,000 --> 01:35:42,160
Speaker 1: And look at the Bears. Their run game, I mean,

1840
01:35:42,240 --> 01:35:45,400
Speaker 1: especially over the past month, has been dominant and that

1841
01:35:45,439 --> 01:35:47,880
Speaker 1: will always make them a scary dog. Now their defense

1842
01:35:47,920 --> 01:35:51,320
Speaker 1: has benefited from extreme turnover luck, like plus seventeen turnover margin.

1843
01:35:52,320 --> 01:35:54,320
Speaker 1: They even did it last week, they got the tush

1844
01:35:54,400 --> 01:35:55,439
Speaker 1: push strip.

1845
01:35:55,720 --> 01:35:58,040
Speaker 2: Have the Eagles ever even fumbled on that play like

1846
01:35:58,240 --> 01:35:59,760
Speaker 2: in their heyday? It doesn't feel like they really have.

1847
01:36:00,080 --> 01:36:02,320
Speaker 1: They did it once, I forget the game, but the

1848
01:36:02,680 --> 01:36:04,439
Speaker 1: rest like blew it dead. But it really was a

1849
01:36:04,479 --> 01:36:05,599
Speaker 1: fun us against the Giants.

1850
01:36:05,640 --> 01:36:11,519
Speaker 2: I think, oh yeah, it was Shane, so yeah.

1851
01:36:11,520 --> 01:36:13,400
Speaker 1: I mean, their run game is incredible. Now their defense

1852
01:36:13,720 --> 01:36:16,040
Speaker 1: is very bad. They have injuries at linebacker, they can't

1853
01:36:16,040 --> 01:36:20,120
Speaker 1: get pressure, but they've survived without. I mean they got

1854
01:36:20,560 --> 01:36:25,559
Speaker 1: getting Jalen Johnson, getting Kyler Gordon back, they were able

1855
01:36:25,560 --> 01:36:28,439
Speaker 1: to develop some depth in the secondary and they held up.

1856
01:36:28,479 --> 01:36:29,680
Speaker 1: You have to give him credit for the wins. And

1857
01:36:29,720 --> 01:36:33,719
Speaker 1: now they've become a scary team. But the the Packers

1858
01:36:33,720 --> 01:36:37,400
Speaker 1: are also a scary team. And they've started to figure

1859
01:36:37,400 --> 01:36:41,720
Speaker 1: out their offense a bit post Craft and I think,

1860
01:36:41,800 --> 01:36:44,559
Speaker 1: you know, you might get Jayden Reid back Christian Watson.

1861
01:36:44,600 --> 01:36:46,880
Speaker 1: I think him coming back has really given juice to

1862
01:36:46,920 --> 01:36:50,040
Speaker 1: the offense. Yeah, they should be able to move the ball.

1863
01:36:50,080 --> 01:36:54,240
Speaker 1: And the Bears am I rushing to lay six and

1864
01:36:54,280 --> 01:36:56,240
Speaker 1: a half against a team that should the should have

1865
01:36:56,240 --> 01:36:58,439
Speaker 1: success running the Ballgaspacers me, they're going to success runing

1866
01:36:58,439 --> 01:37:01,719
Speaker 1: against everyone. And I mean the Packers now lost Wyat,

1867
01:37:01,800 --> 01:37:06,640
Speaker 1: another defensive lineman, to a season ending injury. So I

1868
01:37:06,640 --> 01:37:07,880
Speaker 1: think it should be a really good game. I think

1869
01:37:07,920 --> 01:37:10,320
Speaker 1: the Packers eventually win. But would it shock me if

1870
01:37:10,320 --> 01:37:13,320
Speaker 1: the Bears do? Know a huge game in the division though,

1871
01:37:13,760 --> 01:37:16,080
Speaker 1: winner of this in the driver's seat and.

1872
01:37:16,040 --> 01:37:18,080
Speaker 2: When do you say the Bears I mean would be

1873
01:37:18,160 --> 01:37:20,640
Speaker 2: in pretty good shape given that tie is kind of

1874
01:37:20,680 --> 01:37:23,080
Speaker 2: a swing. They'd have two more wins than the Packers

1875
01:37:23,080 --> 01:37:24,040
Speaker 2: if they win this game.

1876
01:37:24,400 --> 01:37:26,479
Speaker 1: Yeah, and they play again, but it would be they

1877
01:37:26,560 --> 01:37:31,519
Speaker 1: host the Packers. Now, the Bears do have a tough schedule,

1878
01:37:31,800 --> 01:37:32,519
Speaker 1: but they would have the.

1879
01:37:32,840 --> 01:37:34,559
Speaker 2: Forty nine er games, Like, how are the forty nine

1880
01:37:34,600 --> 01:37:35,840
Speaker 2: ers gonna stop their run game?

1881
01:37:36,800 --> 01:37:39,800
Speaker 1: Their score? I don't I don't know how that game

1882
01:37:40,520 --> 01:37:43,040
Speaker 1: doesn't go over the total. By the way, both teams

1883
01:37:43,040 --> 01:37:45,120
Speaker 1: should just move it at will. It should be like

1884
01:37:45,160 --> 01:37:50,240
Speaker 1: an offensive clinic on both sides. So yeah, the Bears

1885
01:37:50,240 --> 01:37:52,519
Speaker 1: after this, did you get the Browns at home and

1886
01:37:52,520 --> 01:37:54,960
Speaker 1: they're the one seed in the NFC as of the

1887
01:37:55,000 --> 01:37:57,320
Speaker 1: time we're talking right now. But you know, then they

1888
01:37:57,320 --> 01:37:59,400
Speaker 1: get the host of Packers at San fer and then

1889
01:37:59,400 --> 01:38:01,479
Speaker 1: you get the post Jared Goff outdoors at the end.

1890
01:38:01,520 --> 01:38:04,280
Speaker 1: So you win this game, it looks a lot better.

1891
01:38:04,320 --> 01:38:06,439
Speaker 1: If you lose it, then you're looking at that schedule

1892
01:38:06,439 --> 01:38:08,519
Speaker 1: a little differently, so and the Packers will be in

1893
01:38:08,560 --> 01:38:11,639
Speaker 1: the driver's seat for the for the division. So yeah,

1894
01:38:11,720 --> 01:38:13,360
Speaker 1: really excited to watch that game. Just a lot of

1895
01:38:13,360 --> 01:38:14,599
Speaker 1: great games the NFL this week.

1896
01:38:14,880 --> 01:38:17,479
Speaker 2: Okay, let's in with the Monday night game. You mentioned,

1897
01:38:17,520 --> 01:38:19,200
Speaker 2: you know Herbert had the surgery. I mean, do you

1898
01:38:19,240 --> 01:38:21,799
Speaker 2: expect him to have like a cast similar to Rogers

1899
01:38:22,520 --> 01:38:23,040
Speaker 2: type deal.

1900
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I assume I think that they'll just they'll have

1901
01:38:25,320 --> 01:38:28,000
Speaker 1: to go shotgun. I mean, they usually go shotgun. I

1902
01:38:28,040 --> 01:38:28,840
Speaker 1: don't know eighty percent of the.

1903
01:38:28,840 --> 01:38:31,360
Speaker 2: Time you expect him to play though, I do, but

1904
01:38:31,400 --> 01:38:35,040
Speaker 2: I don't know for sure. Harbaugh's weird with that. You know,

1905
01:38:35,160 --> 01:38:37,160
Speaker 2: it's it's hard to get much information out of them.

1906
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Speaker 1: Yeah, it is a huge game for the Chargers. I

1907
01:38:39,040 --> 01:38:41,600
Speaker 1: just listed their schedule like they're scheduled now. There's not

1908
01:38:41,720 --> 01:38:44,160
Speaker 1: a really easy schedule so far. Now it's one of

1909
01:38:44,200 --> 01:38:48,640
Speaker 1: the hardest. So they I think they've come out they

1910
01:38:48,640 --> 01:38:51,640
Speaker 1: said they're gonna use like Trey Lance and in like

1911
01:38:51,720 --> 01:38:56,840
Speaker 1: goal line packages, so he's gonna get snaps regardless. I

1912
01:38:56,880 --> 01:38:58,400
Speaker 1: assume they're just going to be in shotgun all the time.

1913
01:38:58,439 --> 01:39:00,360
Speaker 1: So does that make their offense more predictable? We saw

1914
01:39:00,360 --> 01:39:02,640
Speaker 1: how that worked with Aaron Rodgers, and you don't have

1915
01:39:02,680 --> 01:39:07,720
Speaker 1: an offensive line now. Jalen Carter being out, that's that's

1916
01:39:07,840 --> 01:39:12,160
Speaker 1: very helpful to that offensive line. That's a massive, massive

1917
01:39:12,160 --> 01:39:14,680
Speaker 1: loss for Philadelphia. The one guy on their defense that

1918
01:39:14,720 --> 01:39:17,320
Speaker 1: they really couldn't afford to lose. He just commands so

1919
01:39:17,400 --> 01:39:21,599
Speaker 1: much attention. They don't have great depth there and he's

1920
01:39:21,640 --> 01:39:24,799
Speaker 1: just the game wrecker. And this Eagles offense it's still broken.

1921
01:39:25,160 --> 01:39:28,719
Speaker 1: I don't see how they can fix it. Every week

1922
01:39:28,920 --> 01:39:31,479
Speaker 1: they go almost a half without scoring. It doesn't matter.

1923
01:39:31,520 --> 01:39:33,280
Speaker 1: I mean, the Bears defense has not been good all year.

1924
01:39:34,000 --> 01:39:37,400
Speaker 1: Couldn't run it against the Bears. Their offensive line, there's

1925
01:39:37,400 --> 01:39:39,800
Speaker 1: no lane Johnson VENs. The line hasn't been as good

1926
01:39:39,800 --> 01:39:41,840
Speaker 1: in the interior. I think they missed back then they've

1927
01:39:41,880 --> 01:39:44,120
Speaker 1: all been. They've just been beat up too in the

1928
01:39:44,120 --> 01:39:47,760
Speaker 1: offensive line. They can't figure out zones. Well, they're gonna

1929
01:39:47,760 --> 01:39:52,360
Speaker 1: get a ton of that against the Chargers defense. So yeah,

1930
01:39:52,479 --> 01:39:58,120
Speaker 1: the Herbert injury throws a wrench into this. But like

1931
01:39:58,200 --> 01:40:00,600
Speaker 1: every week, you gotta look at the Eagles under I

1932
01:40:00,600 --> 01:40:02,160
Speaker 1: don't know how you could ever bet an Eagles over

1933
01:40:02,560 --> 01:40:07,200
Speaker 1: because their defense is still good and their offense will

1934
01:40:07,240 --> 01:40:11,040
Speaker 1: just die for a half plus And it's hard to

1935
01:40:11,040 --> 01:40:14,000
Speaker 1: see this Chargers offense doing, you know, with a Herd Herbert,

1936
01:40:14,040 --> 01:40:17,439
Speaker 1: that offensive line doing a ton, So I would lean

1937
01:40:17,479 --> 01:40:19,840
Speaker 1: on I would lean it taking the points too, But

1938
01:40:20,800 --> 01:40:23,120
Speaker 1: the Herbert uncertaday makes it tough. But big game for

1939
01:40:23,160 --> 01:40:23,759
Speaker 1: both teams.

1940
01:40:24,000 --> 01:40:27,600
Speaker 2: Well, if your Philly, you lose, you know, you just

1941
01:40:27,920 --> 01:40:30,559
Speaker 2: obviously at the Bills, if I'm giving them a loss there,

1942
01:40:30,880 --> 01:40:32,680
Speaker 2: you would have given them wins against the Raiders and

1943
01:40:32,720 --> 01:40:35,280
Speaker 2: the two Commanders games. But I can see them dropping

1944
01:40:35,320 --> 01:40:37,679
Speaker 2: one to Yeah, That's what I'm saying. Then it starts

1945
01:40:37,720 --> 01:40:40,400
Speaker 2: getting weird. Then you just can't trust them playing whoever

1946
01:40:40,439 --> 01:40:42,599
Speaker 2: they're playing beside, like the Titans You're like, I don't

1947
01:40:42,600 --> 01:40:46,519
Speaker 2: know this thing. It's got some similarities and parallels of

1948
01:40:46,560 --> 01:40:48,840
Speaker 2: a couple of years ago when it all kind of unraveled.

1949
01:40:49,200 --> 01:40:51,559
Speaker 2: And I've been saying this for a while. When you

1950
01:40:51,600 --> 01:40:56,400
Speaker 2: have this bubbling weirdness with your just two star marquee guys,

1951
01:40:58,400 --> 01:41:00,840
Speaker 2: just I just think it's hard to hide that. And

1952
01:41:00,880 --> 01:41:03,479
Speaker 2: then the petula thing, the way the fans like, listen,

1953
01:41:03,840 --> 01:41:05,840
Speaker 2: it's it looked like young kids egg in his house.

1954
01:41:05,880 --> 01:41:08,519
Speaker 2: It wasn't some indictment on like the city, you know.

1955
01:41:08,600 --> 01:41:10,720
Speaker 2: I mean, I'd be lying if I hadn't egged a

1956
01:41:10,720 --> 01:41:14,839
Speaker 2: few homes in day. Yeah. Yeah, So it's like welcome

1957
01:41:14,880 --> 01:41:18,439
Speaker 2: to seventeen year old kids. But I just think we

1958
01:41:18,520 --> 01:41:21,920
Speaker 2: know the pressure in that organization if they lose this thing,

1959
01:41:21,960 --> 01:41:25,240
Speaker 2: and there's just so much pressure, you know, And listen,

1960
01:41:25,320 --> 01:41:28,080
Speaker 2: siriani Is has proven to be able to handle and

1961
01:41:28,080 --> 01:41:30,400
Speaker 2: be a leader, but he ultimately doesn't call the plays

1962
01:41:30,479 --> 01:41:33,000
Speaker 2: or anything. So it's like it's like, what, Okay, he can.

1963
01:41:33,040 --> 01:41:34,559
Speaker 2: It's kind of like the Tomlin thing, like he's a

1964
01:41:34,560 --> 01:41:37,200
Speaker 2: great rally the troops guy, but if the fucking offense

1965
01:41:37,200 --> 01:41:39,639
Speaker 2: ain't gaining yards, the offense ain't gaining yards. It's like nothing,

1966
01:41:39,760 --> 01:41:40,800
Speaker 2: he can't do anything about it.

1967
01:41:41,720 --> 01:41:43,639
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, it's just this is the Eagles every

1968
01:41:43,680 --> 01:41:46,200
Speaker 1: other year. It seems to be like the San Francisco Giants.

1969
01:41:46,600 --> 01:41:49,000
Speaker 1: It was like odd years or even years they would

1970
01:41:49,000 --> 01:41:49,519
Speaker 1: go to It.

1971
01:41:49,439 --> 01:41:51,439
Speaker 2: Was eleven and thirteen. They won the World Series three

1972
01:41:51,479 --> 01:41:53,120
Speaker 2: out of five years and missed the playoffs on the

1973
01:41:53,160 --> 01:41:53,519
Speaker 2: other two.

1974
01:41:54,000 --> 01:41:56,880
Speaker 1: So like they have an offensive coordinator every other year,

1975
01:41:56,920 --> 01:41:58,799
Speaker 1: this is like Brian Johnson two point out.

1976
01:41:59,360 --> 01:42:03,080
Speaker 2: And you get the stats. He's worse than Brian Johnson,

1977
01:42:03,840 --> 01:42:04,639
Speaker 2: worse against zone.

1978
01:42:04,840 --> 01:42:07,639
Speaker 1: There's no creativity office, they don't use there's no motion,

1979
01:42:07,800 --> 01:42:13,479
Speaker 1: no play action. It's just it's bad. So yeah, so

1980
01:42:13,520 --> 01:42:15,160
Speaker 1: if they lose this game, you give them a win

1981
01:42:15,200 --> 01:42:18,759
Speaker 1: over the Raiders, you will say they lose at the Bills,

1982
01:42:20,080 --> 01:42:23,360
Speaker 1: and I mean especially the Carter is out for weeks.

1983
01:42:23,439 --> 01:42:32,280
Speaker 1: So then they're at eight and six and if excuse me,

1984
01:42:32,360 --> 01:42:39,040
Speaker 1: nine and six. So if you split with Washington, you

1985
01:42:39,160 --> 01:42:45,519
Speaker 1: finish ten and seven. And the question is that's not

1986
01:42:45,560 --> 01:42:47,360
Speaker 1: getting in the NFC.

1987
01:42:47,840 --> 01:42:49,120
Speaker 2: So can the Cowboys get ten and.

1988
01:42:49,120 --> 01:42:51,880
Speaker 1: The Cowboys catch them? So if the Cowboys there's six,

1989
01:42:52,080 --> 01:42:57,320
Speaker 1: five and one, the best that the Cowboys can finish

1990
01:42:57,920 --> 01:42:59,840
Speaker 1: is eleven five and one. I doubt they're gonna win out,

1991
01:42:59,840 --> 01:43:03,920
Speaker 1: but they beat the Lions all of a sudden, there's

1992
01:43:03,960 --> 01:43:09,240
Speaker 1: seven to five and one, and I mean they're playing

1993
01:43:09,320 --> 01:43:11,080
Speaker 1: very well. Their defense is trending up.

1994
01:43:12,840 --> 01:43:15,840
Speaker 2: I win the division if I'm ten ten six and

1995
01:43:15,920 --> 01:43:17,719
Speaker 2: one and you're ten and seven, right.

1996
01:43:17,640 --> 01:43:20,240
Speaker 1: Yes, so they have to just get to ten. Yeah,

1997
01:43:20,240 --> 01:43:21,759
Speaker 1: you're right. They just have to get the ten wins.

1998
01:43:22,160 --> 01:43:26,280
Speaker 1: So if they win tonight, they're at seven. Can they

1999
01:43:26,280 --> 01:43:32,960
Speaker 1: host the Vikings? Next win, they host the Chargers, then

2000
01:43:32,960 --> 01:43:34,799
Speaker 1: they're at the Commanders and at the Giants.

2001
01:43:35,560 --> 01:43:39,800
Speaker 2: It's doable, winnable games. Yeah. Yeah, well it's gonna get interesting.

2002
01:43:39,800 --> 01:43:42,080
Speaker 2: You're right, this has because I get some dms like,

2003
01:43:42,120 --> 01:43:44,880
Speaker 2: has this season been shittier? I'm like, there definitely have

2004
01:43:44,960 --> 01:43:48,800
Speaker 2: been stretches where there's been bad mornings and afternoons, like

2005
01:43:48,960 --> 01:43:51,320
Speaker 2: there have been some rough games. I'd be love football

2006
01:43:51,320 --> 01:43:54,559
Speaker 2: as much as anyone, but there have been some rough Sundays.

2007
01:43:54,600 --> 01:43:57,000
Speaker 2: There's no disputing there's been some rough primetime games. There's

2008
01:43:57,080 --> 01:43:59,880
Speaker 2: been bad games, but at least they matter now, so

2009
01:44:00,200 --> 01:44:02,719
Speaker 2: I'd even argue in college football there's been some stretches

2010
01:44:02,760 --> 01:44:04,599
Speaker 2: where it's eh, it's been a It's been a weird

2011
01:44:04,640 --> 01:44:08,800
Speaker 2: football season, even though historic ratings. More people watch it,

2012
01:44:08,840 --> 01:44:11,480
Speaker 2: more people talk about it, which is awesome for our business.

2013
01:44:11,840 --> 01:44:14,400
Speaker 2: You know, the games, I would like a little more action.

2014
01:44:14,560 --> 01:44:16,120
Speaker 2: But part of that is some of these teams are

2015
01:44:16,160 --> 01:44:19,280
Speaker 2: just are just shitty. What they're just huffle uh. And

2016
01:44:19,320 --> 01:44:20,840
Speaker 2: then like you said, some of the good teams, the

2017
01:44:20,880 --> 01:44:23,320
Speaker 2: parodia top makes them kind of hit or miss, right,

2018
01:44:23,439 --> 01:44:25,599
Speaker 2: So it's that's why. I mean, the Packers went through

2019
01:44:25,600 --> 01:44:27,320
Speaker 2: a stretch where they were rough. The Eagles are going

2020
01:44:27,320 --> 01:44:29,800
Speaker 2: through a stretch when they were rough. The steep the Ravens.

2021
01:44:30,200 --> 01:44:32,519
Speaker 2: I mean, most years, even a random Ravens team would

2022
01:44:32,520 --> 01:44:34,880
Speaker 2: be nine to three right now, right the Bills are

2023
01:44:34,880 --> 01:44:35,880
Speaker 2: a team that's eight and four.

2024
01:44:36,880 --> 01:44:39,439
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's been an a year, but it's about to

2025
01:44:39,439 --> 01:44:41,920
Speaker 1: get good. We've we're gonna it's we're gonna get paid

2026
01:44:41,920 --> 01:44:44,160
Speaker 1: off for our for suffering through some of the bad

2027
01:44:44,160 --> 01:44:45,080
Speaker 1: football we've watched.

2028
01:44:45,760 --> 01:44:49,120
Speaker 2: Well, thanks for firing us up, Stucky, and let's enjoy

2029
01:44:49,120 --> 01:44:51,400
Speaker 2: the weekend, and let's let's buckle in here to the

2030
01:44:51,400 --> 01:44:53,920
Speaker 2: home stretch. And you got a baby here what the

2031
01:44:54,000 --> 01:44:54,799
Speaker 2: next couple of weeks.

2032
01:44:55,080 --> 01:45:01,559
Speaker 1: Twenty second is induction date. So it's gonna be a interesting.

2033
01:45:01,240 --> 01:45:03,040
Speaker 2: I get asked all the time like are you ready.

2034
01:45:03,040 --> 01:45:05,240
Speaker 2: I'm like, I mean, I guess. I mean it's yeah.

2035
01:45:05,280 --> 01:45:07,840
Speaker 2: Ask her, she's the one the baby's getting hiccups and

2036
01:45:07,920 --> 01:45:08,320
Speaker 2: kicking her.

2037
01:45:10,080 --> 01:45:14,599
Speaker 1: I found that out yesterday that there's hiccups. When When

2038
01:45:14,680 --> 01:45:15,120
Speaker 1: is your date?

2039
01:45:16,000 --> 01:45:20,000
Speaker 2: Like middle of January, so hopefully like like a Wednesday.

2040
01:45:20,120 --> 01:45:22,800
Speaker 2: Ideally if he could come like Tuesday or Wednesday of

2041
01:45:22,800 --> 01:45:23,960
Speaker 2: one of those playoff weeks.

2042
01:45:24,320 --> 01:45:27,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, we're inducing on a Monday, so you already don't

2043
01:45:28,800 --> 01:45:34,280
Speaker 1: Yeah the twenty seconds, so it's uh, it'll be a

2044
01:45:34,280 --> 01:45:34,800
Speaker 1: busy week.

2045
01:45:34,880 --> 01:45:36,720
Speaker 2: But I'll still people ask like, do you are you

2046
01:45:36,760 --> 01:45:40,160
Speaker 2: going on maternity? I'm like, well, it's not like this

2047
01:45:40,240 --> 01:45:41,600
Speaker 2: isn't a normal job.

2048
01:45:41,479 --> 01:45:43,240
Speaker 1: So it's like you can't.

2049
01:45:43,840 --> 01:45:46,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, It's like, yeah, I might have to miss depending

2050
01:45:46,439 --> 01:45:49,640
Speaker 2: on the date, maybe like a Saturday or Sunday. But

2051
01:45:50,080 --> 01:45:51,840
Speaker 2: I don't just disappear for a month. That's not the

2052
01:45:51,880 --> 01:45:52,759
Speaker 2: way this thing works.

2053
01:45:53,280 --> 01:45:56,479
Speaker 1: The day of I will not be able to do anything.

2054
01:45:56,520 --> 01:45:58,639
Speaker 1: But other than that, it's business as usual.

2055
01:45:59,240 --> 01:46:01,000
Speaker 2: I hear it. Stucky, thanks Bro.

2056
01:46:01,200 --> 01:46:09,439
Speaker 1: Absolutely have going the volume. Mhm