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Speaker 1: My next guests founded online degree dot Com with a

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Speaker 1: walk with the money making conversations, my man Grant Aldrich, Hi, Rasha,

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Speaker 1: thank you for having me. Well, thank you. Where are

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Speaker 1: Well that's the part of the Los Angeles. They can't

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Speaker 1: sunny southern California. But you can look to you to

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Speaker 1: Now now that now, before we get to oldline degree

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Speaker 1: I'm embarrassed to begin because when I start talking about myself,

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Speaker 1: Now they're effect that Lisa, I kind of mentioned it

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Speaker 1: my friend Grant Aldrich. Grant, quick question, they're here. What

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Speaker 1: Roshan mcgonuth. I went to community college. I graduated with

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