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Speaker 1: Hey boo, it's me Roz. I have had a lot

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Speaker 4: So yeah, we it's like a triplex like the garage

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Speaker 1: What so when you moved into this house, Michael, how

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Speaker 4: Around, Okay. So in the house, I rented that house

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Speaker 1: Oh my god?

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Speaker 4: Okay, you know I don't want to be an eight

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Speaker 1: So now people that are listening to this can't see

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Speaker 2: Me, I was looking up for my shoulders.

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Speaker 1: Wait, Vanessa, how do you sleep in this home knowing

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Speaker 2: Well, I'm convinced that because I'm in a separate unit,

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Speaker 1: Right. Yeah, she's not allowed to know that would be trespassing.

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Speaker 4: She just comes by every once in a while to

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and I never do. There was this one time

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Speaker 4: Years, and it had it was like l bracketed, and

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, I'm just picturing the little girl running

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Speaker 4: Wasn't he She's a prankster. She literal Dennis the Menace

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Speaker 1: Okay, I'm so scared right now. So what's going on

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Speaker 4: M okay, drama update.

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Speaker 2: So and I've stayed at that place too, and it

434
00:26:38,040 --> 00:26:39,040
Speaker 2: is scary.

435
00:26:39,240 --> 00:26:42,000
Speaker 4: And sometimes the scary thing that happens here is Daniel Ruggweb,

436
00:26:42,359 --> 00:26:43,600
Speaker 4: but sometimes it's a ghost.

437
00:26:44,320 --> 00:26:45,880
Speaker 1: Love him.

438
00:26:45,960 --> 00:26:49,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, if you listen to the I'm Not Busy episode

439
00:26:49,119 --> 00:26:51,040
Speaker 4: that he's on, we talk about the time he scared

440
00:26:51,080 --> 00:26:51,920
Speaker 4: the shit out of us here.

441
00:26:52,240 --> 00:26:52,720
Speaker 1: Yeah.

442
00:26:52,760 --> 00:26:58,520
Speaker 4: But uh so there's I live in like a shotgun style,

443
00:26:58,600 --> 00:27:00,760
Speaker 4: So there's a bedroom at the back, there's a hallway

444
00:27:00,800 --> 00:27:03,840
Speaker 4: through the middle that basically is like on the hallway

445
00:27:03,880 --> 00:27:05,840
Speaker 4: is the bathroom on one side, the kitchen on the other,

446
00:27:06,240 --> 00:27:08,359
Speaker 4: and then you have like two kind of small living

447
00:27:08,440 --> 00:27:12,320
Speaker 4: room dining room things on a row. There is a

448
00:27:12,359 --> 00:27:20,080
Speaker 4: picture frame of a stormtrooper in my hallway, and if

449
00:27:20,119 --> 00:27:23,880
Speaker 4: you're walking from my bedroom to like the front door,

450
00:27:23,920 --> 00:27:26,600
Speaker 4: like in a hurry trying to leave, you know, grabbing something.

451
00:27:28,160 --> 00:27:32,840
Speaker 4: I repeatedly see the reflection of someone standing in our

452
00:27:32,920 --> 00:27:36,199
Speaker 4: dining room and you just catch it out of the

453
00:27:36,200 --> 00:27:39,840
Speaker 4: corner of your eye and the glass and it'll be

454
00:27:39,880 --> 00:27:41,560
Speaker 4: someone just standing in the dining room and if you

455
00:27:41,600 --> 00:27:43,320
Speaker 4: go to a look, it won't be there. But it's

456
00:27:43,359 --> 00:27:45,840
Speaker 4: like there's not really anything for it to be the

457
00:27:45,880 --> 00:27:48,159
Speaker 4: trick of a trick of the eye for because like

458
00:27:48,720 --> 00:27:51,879
Speaker 4: there's nothing that's person shaped or person height in that

459
00:27:52,040 --> 00:27:55,359
Speaker 4: room if no one's in there, And so I see

460
00:27:55,359 --> 00:27:57,840
Speaker 4: it all the time, nothing weird ever happens, but you

461
00:27:57,920 --> 00:27:59,760
Speaker 4: kind of you know, you're like you kind of make

462
00:27:59,760 --> 00:28:02,560
Speaker 4: peace with where you live, and you're like, oh, yeah,

463
00:28:02,600 --> 00:28:04,639
Speaker 4: this is like the leaky faucet, you know, the ghosts

464
00:28:04,640 --> 00:28:11,159
Speaker 4: in the dining room right right right, because it's like,

465
00:28:11,240 --> 00:28:15,120
Speaker 4: what am I gonna do tell the landlord I'm subleasing, So.

466
00:28:15,720 --> 00:28:18,919
Speaker 1: Can you make out like what this person looks like

467
00:28:19,040 --> 00:28:21,240
Speaker 1: at all? Or you can just tell it's a person

468
00:28:23,560 --> 00:28:26,359
Speaker 1: it well, you know, and I'm not going to ascribe

469
00:28:27,040 --> 00:28:32,800
Speaker 1: a gender to this ghost, but it is taller than me.

470
00:28:34,040 --> 00:28:36,480
Speaker 4: So I would say it seems like it's about six

471
00:28:36,560 --> 00:28:44,120
Speaker 4: foot tall and like substantial and shape enough for it

472
00:28:44,200 --> 00:28:47,400
Speaker 4: to be like startling, you know what I mean, Like

473
00:28:47,480 --> 00:28:53,960
Speaker 4: it's you're like, what is that in my living room? Yeah, yeah,

474
00:28:54,000 --> 00:28:56,800
Speaker 4: it's it's I wrote like a little essay about it

475
00:28:56,840 --> 00:28:59,080
Speaker 4: because at the beginning of the pandemic, because I was

476
00:28:59,120 --> 00:29:01,800
Speaker 4: like weird way, I was sort of like, oh, and

477
00:29:01,840 --> 00:29:04,440
Speaker 4: this is our third housemate, and like it's nice to

478
00:29:04,520 --> 00:29:07,200
Speaker 4: have company, and like because I haven't seen any mate

479
00:29:07,320 --> 00:29:08,800
Speaker 4: so long, but I do have this ghost.

480
00:29:08,960 --> 00:29:11,000
Speaker 1: You know What's funny. That's what so many people have

481
00:29:11,080 --> 00:29:14,160
Speaker 1: told me this past year is like kind of not

482
00:29:14,200 --> 00:29:17,280
Speaker 1: realizing that they had a ghost, or just like getting

483
00:29:17,320 --> 00:29:19,920
Speaker 1: to know their ghost because they're spending so much time

484
00:29:19,960 --> 00:29:22,720
Speaker 1: at home and they just haven't you know, now it's

485
00:29:22,800 --> 00:29:25,800
Speaker 1: just more present in their life or I don't know,

486
00:29:25,840 --> 00:29:27,640
Speaker 1: you make peace with it or whatever.

487
00:29:29,080 --> 00:29:31,000
Speaker 4: Well, because like right, there's got to be like you

488
00:29:31,040 --> 00:29:36,479
Speaker 4: talk about the supernatural or the multiverse or other planes

489
00:29:36,520 --> 00:29:40,560
Speaker 4: of existence, and maybe we're always too our lives are

490
00:29:40,560 --> 00:29:45,920
Speaker 4: too busily and bustle it busily, busy and bustling to

491
00:29:45,960 --> 00:29:48,840
Speaker 4: perceive it right, and like it's only when we slow down,

492
00:29:48,960 --> 00:29:50,560
Speaker 4: or only when we're like, well, what the fuck am

493
00:29:50,560 --> 00:29:52,680
Speaker 4: I going to look at that? You're like, oh, what

494
00:29:52,720 --> 00:29:54,480
Speaker 4: are you? You're the ghost that I live with?

495
00:29:54,560 --> 00:29:58,120
Speaker 1: And totally, well, I think a lot of people like

496
00:29:58,760 --> 00:30:02,120
Speaker 1: haunted places or you know, I'm always obsessed with the

497
00:30:02,120 --> 00:30:05,520
Speaker 1: idea of like theaters all being haunted, and oh yeah,

498
00:30:05,680 --> 00:30:08,920
Speaker 1: I feel like anytime I performed in like a big theater,

499
00:30:09,080 --> 00:30:12,400
Speaker 1: I'm always so fucking nervous that like there could very

500
00:30:12,440 --> 00:30:15,960
Speaker 1: easily be somebody backstage that's actually a ghost that I'm like,

501
00:30:16,000 --> 00:30:17,600
Speaker 1: I can't deal with that right now.

502
00:30:17,840 --> 00:30:18,000
Speaker 4: You know.

503
00:30:18,000 --> 00:30:20,480
Speaker 1: It's like it's kind of like I don't like great

504
00:30:20,600 --> 00:30:23,520
Speaker 1: eighteen hundreds costume, but like, I gotta do my thing

505
00:30:23,600 --> 00:30:24,040
Speaker 1: right now.

506
00:30:24,200 --> 00:30:26,600
Speaker 4: I'm doing a quick change. I've got to flip this

507
00:30:26,640 --> 00:30:27,959
Speaker 4: wig exactly.

508
00:30:28,640 --> 00:30:32,400
Speaker 2: I'm running my set right now. Please stuck exactly.

509
00:30:32,720 --> 00:30:34,600
Speaker 1: Don't do you guys ever think about this again? I

510
00:30:34,600 --> 00:30:36,960
Speaker 1: think about this literally every day. Maybe it's because I

511
00:30:37,040 --> 00:30:39,280
Speaker 1: talk about ghosts every day. I don't know, but like

512
00:30:39,480 --> 00:30:43,240
Speaker 1: being on stage and seeing like a ghost, what would

513
00:30:43,280 --> 00:30:44,680
Speaker 1: you what would you do?

514
00:30:48,080 --> 00:30:52,520
Speaker 2: I mean, I feel like it would probably be a

515
00:30:52,640 --> 00:30:54,480
Speaker 2: viral video of me, just like.

516
00:30:56,200 --> 00:31:02,640
Speaker 3: I was just I was just watching the TV show

517
00:31:02,680 --> 00:31:07,080
Speaker 3: Ghost Adventures, just ghost hunted at the Comedy Store and

518
00:31:07,440 --> 00:31:13,560
Speaker 3: they interviewed comedian actor Jay Moore, who told a story

519
00:31:13,720 --> 00:31:16,600
Speaker 3: about performing on stage and.

520
00:31:17,880 --> 00:31:22,200
Speaker 1: The whole audience was frozen and nobody was laughing, and

521
00:31:22,240 --> 00:31:25,160
Speaker 1: then he said he acknowledged the ghost and then the

522
00:31:25,240 --> 00:31:27,720
Speaker 1: audience started laughing and they started moving again.

523
00:31:29,120 --> 00:31:30,960
Speaker 3: What fun.

524
00:31:34,080 --> 00:31:38,400
Speaker 2: That's creepy. That's very like I don't know.

525
00:31:38,880 --> 00:31:44,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, I love that for jaymore So, Okay, I want

526
00:31:44,760 --> 00:31:48,440
Speaker 1: to I'm curious about Vanessa, going way back to the beginning,

527
00:31:48,440 --> 00:31:50,840
Speaker 1: when you're talking about being superstitious, what does that mean

528
00:31:50,920 --> 00:31:51,280
Speaker 1: for you?

529
00:31:53,280 --> 00:31:57,240
Speaker 2: Well, I feel like my mom has definitely instilled a

530
00:31:57,280 --> 00:32:02,680
Speaker 2: lot of fear in me, especially like about like ghosts

531
00:32:02,680 --> 00:32:07,240
Speaker 2: and stuff like I'm I'm I have like a thing

532
00:32:07,320 --> 00:32:09,840
Speaker 2: with like tarot readings, like I don't want to know.

533
00:32:10,320 --> 00:32:16,120
Speaker 2: I've never gotten one because my mom would regularly get

534
00:32:16,160 --> 00:32:19,280
Speaker 2: them and she would flip the fuck out and cry

535
00:32:19,400 --> 00:32:21,640
Speaker 2: and all this stuff. So I'm like, oh, I don't

536
00:32:21,640 --> 00:32:23,640
Speaker 2: want to know anything, which is.

537
00:32:23,600 --> 00:32:26,960
Speaker 4: So funny because like forty five of Vanessa's friends are

538
00:32:26,960 --> 00:32:31,800
Speaker 4: like Tarot readers, Like everyone is constantly offering is having.

539
00:32:31,640 --> 00:32:36,320
Speaker 1: Her moment right now? I feel like taro is everywhere. Wait, so,

540
00:32:36,480 --> 00:32:39,720
Speaker 1: but you mean like your mom would hear something that

541
00:32:40,760 --> 00:32:43,080
Speaker 1: like would freak her out and that would affect her

542
00:32:43,120 --> 00:32:44,200
Speaker 1: life or what do you mean?

543
00:32:45,120 --> 00:32:48,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, Like she wouldn't really share with me. She would

544
00:32:48,360 --> 00:32:52,960
Speaker 2: just like come home crying every time, and then I

545
00:32:53,000 --> 00:32:56,320
Speaker 2: would be like, what happened, and she's like the lady

546
00:32:56,400 --> 00:33:01,239
Speaker 2: with the car she said, oh nothing. She would just

547
00:33:01,240 --> 00:33:04,800
Speaker 2: like lock herself in her room and cry. And I'm like, Okay,

548
00:33:05,560 --> 00:33:08,720
Speaker 2: note to self, don't go to the lady with the cars.

549
00:33:08,920 --> 00:33:12,160
Speaker 1: But isn't your mom like super Christian too kind.

550
00:33:11,880 --> 00:33:17,720
Speaker 2: Of Oh yeah, yeah, super Catholic and super hypocritical.

551
00:33:20,800 --> 00:33:23,760
Speaker 1: I mean with holicism. That's how I was raised too,

552
00:33:23,920 --> 00:33:27,200
Speaker 1: And I always feel like that makes you superstitious or

553
00:33:27,960 --> 00:33:31,680
Speaker 1: believe in this kind of stuff. Michael, did you have

554
00:33:31,800 --> 00:33:34,760
Speaker 1: like anything as a child like that that that would

555
00:33:34,760 --> 00:33:36,800
Speaker 1: inform your beliefs in this kind of stuff.

556
00:33:38,840 --> 00:33:42,960
Speaker 4: I mean not really. Well, so my mom in my

557
00:33:43,040 --> 00:33:48,400
Speaker 4: mom is spooky and but like for fun. So in

558
00:33:48,440 --> 00:33:53,520
Speaker 4: my neighborhood, she's known as the Halloween Lady, and there

559
00:33:53,560 --> 00:33:56,800
Speaker 4: are like multiple generations of kids. She does like a

560
00:33:56,880 --> 00:33:59,800
Speaker 4: huge Halloween display every year, and there are generations of

561
00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:03,000
Speaker 4: kids that have kids who bring their kids now and

562
00:34:03,040 --> 00:34:05,040
Speaker 4: they're like, we're gonna go see the Halloween Lady's house.

563
00:34:05,360 --> 00:34:08,600
Speaker 1: That is literally goals for me. I hope to day

564
00:34:08,719 --> 00:34:11,920
Speaker 1: be the neighborhood Halloween ladies. That's what I want more

565
00:34:11,960 --> 00:34:12,600
Speaker 1: than anything.

566
00:34:15,000 --> 00:34:18,320
Speaker 4: Okay, so if you want my mom's track, basically you

567
00:34:18,760 --> 00:34:21,560
Speaker 4: have one kid, one kid only say you never want

568
00:34:21,600 --> 00:34:25,720
Speaker 4: to have another one, and then that kid leaves, and

569
00:34:25,760 --> 00:34:28,160
Speaker 4: then the rest of your money you generally spend on

570
00:34:28,200 --> 00:34:32,560
Speaker 4: Halloween decorations. Yes, so I didn't go to college so

571
00:34:32,600 --> 00:34:34,160
Speaker 4: my mom could have a spooky house.

572
00:34:37,960 --> 00:34:40,000
Speaker 2: I mean it's money well spent.

573
00:34:40,640 --> 00:34:46,879
Speaker 4: She's got like she's got three large dragons. And when

574
00:34:46,880 --> 00:34:49,480
Speaker 4: I say large, I mean about the size of a

575
00:34:49,520 --> 00:34:50,400
Speaker 4: Hyundai accent.

576
00:34:50,600 --> 00:34:53,160
Speaker 1: Oh my god, that is amazing.

577
00:34:54,040 --> 00:34:54,279
Speaker 2: Yeah.

578
00:34:54,360 --> 00:34:58,080
Speaker 4: Two of them are skeletons, one of them is fleshed.

579
00:35:01,040 --> 00:35:02,399
Speaker 4: So I mean I grew up in a house where

580
00:35:02,400 --> 00:35:05,240
Speaker 4: we watched a lot of haunted like our spooky movies.

581
00:35:05,640 --> 00:35:10,040
Speaker 4: My mom used to love to scare me and vice versa.

582
00:35:10,160 --> 00:35:12,719
Speaker 4: But it was never like tied to My mom isn't

583
00:35:12,719 --> 00:35:15,120
Speaker 4: particularly religious, so it was never tied to like the

584
00:35:15,200 --> 00:35:18,560
Speaker 4: grand like the old gods or anything sort of like

585
00:35:18,680 --> 00:35:21,200
Speaker 4: large and mythological or like. It was always just sort

586
00:35:21,200 --> 00:35:23,920
Speaker 4: of like, well, if you you know, you better watch

587
00:35:23,920 --> 00:35:29,120
Speaker 4: out or your mother will get you. So my mom

588
00:35:29,200 --> 00:35:33,440
Speaker 4: was sort of our own Liarona. Really She's like, if

589
00:35:33,480 --> 00:35:35,279
Speaker 4: you don't clean a room, I'm gonna scare the shit

590
00:35:35,320 --> 00:35:35,719
Speaker 4: out of you.

591
00:35:37,880 --> 00:35:44,719
Speaker 1: Oh my god, that is amazing. Are you superstitious? I'm

592
00:35:45,000 --> 00:35:46,759
Speaker 1: I feel like I don't talk enough on the show

593
00:35:46,760 --> 00:35:50,680
Speaker 1: about superstitions, and that's totally like a part of this conversation.

594
00:35:50,840 --> 00:35:51,320
Speaker 1: I feel.

595
00:35:52,600 --> 00:35:56,920
Speaker 2: I feel like I am just because of, like you know,

596
00:35:56,960 --> 00:35:59,960
Speaker 2: what I grew up with. But there's like some why,

597
00:36:00,560 --> 00:36:04,880
Speaker 2: especially on New Year's Eve, Like this New Year's Eve,

598
00:36:04,960 --> 00:36:08,120
Speaker 2: I was like, Okay, I'm gonna be superstitious and I'm

599
00:36:08,160 --> 00:36:12,040
Speaker 2: gonna do all the things because last year sucked. So

600
00:36:12,239 --> 00:36:15,399
Speaker 2: I'm gonna I'm going to eat all the grapes, I'm

601
00:36:15,440 --> 00:36:23,919
Speaker 2: gonna wear the the the right color. So I get money. Well,

602
00:36:24,000 --> 00:36:25,360
Speaker 2: I wore gold ones.

603
00:36:26,200 --> 00:36:28,840
Speaker 4: Oh okay, I need some gold shows.

604
00:36:29,040 --> 00:36:35,040
Speaker 2: I don't have you do the gold. I think the gold.

605
00:36:35,440 --> 00:36:39,960
Speaker 2: The gold was like like just overall wealth and everything.

606
00:36:40,640 --> 00:36:43,839
Speaker 2: I think little little dumb things like that. But I

607
00:36:43,880 --> 00:36:44,960
Speaker 2: was like, I'm doing them.

608
00:36:45,160 --> 00:36:47,640
Speaker 1: You want to know something that is like kind of sad,

609
00:36:47,840 --> 00:36:50,000
Speaker 1: but it has a great light at the end of

610
00:36:50,040 --> 00:36:53,440
Speaker 1: the tunnel. I have been like, Okay, I really need money,

611
00:36:53,880 --> 00:36:56,440
Speaker 1: and I'm at the point where I'm turning to witchcraft.

612
00:36:56,640 --> 00:37:00,160
Speaker 1: So I was literally like driving around to all the

613
00:37:00,160 --> 00:37:03,080
Speaker 1: witchy stores that I know in Los Angeles and I

614
00:37:03,120 --> 00:37:05,400
Speaker 1: was like, I need to get me a money candle.

615
00:37:05,800 --> 00:37:10,840
Speaker 1: And every single store I went to in early twenty

616
00:37:10,840 --> 00:37:14,840
Speaker 1: twenty one had Oh, if you want gratitude candle, there's

617
00:37:14,880 --> 00:37:18,640
Speaker 1: nothing but them. You want love candle, you want happiness candle,

618
00:37:19,320 --> 00:37:22,239
Speaker 1: take your pick which color you want? Honey? You want

619
00:37:22,239 --> 00:37:26,880
Speaker 1: a money candle? Bone dry? And I finally got my

620
00:37:27,000 --> 00:37:30,759
Speaker 1: hands on a money candle and I lit it and

621
00:37:30,840 --> 00:37:36,560
Speaker 1: I set my intentions and we're waiting, but at least

622
00:37:36,600 --> 00:37:38,920
Speaker 1: I found one, So that was good.

623
00:37:39,840 --> 00:37:45,080
Speaker 2: Yes, I remember, Yeah, my mom and my aunts would

624
00:37:45,120 --> 00:37:48,400
Speaker 2: be all witchy too. Again, very Catholic, but witchy R

625
00:37:48,719 --> 00:37:55,279
Speaker 2: and my cousin in high school. She wanted a guy

626
00:37:55,600 --> 00:37:59,000
Speaker 2: to ask her to the dance. So they did this

627
00:37:59,080 --> 00:38:04,239
Speaker 2: whole thing to saint I think it was San Antonio,

628
00:38:05,000 --> 00:38:07,200
Speaker 2: and they put they were like, you have to get

629
00:38:07,200 --> 00:38:09,759
Speaker 2: a picture him and put it in a glass of

630
00:38:09,800 --> 00:38:13,560
Speaker 2: water upside down, and then put a prey to the

631
00:38:13,640 --> 00:38:17,160
Speaker 2: saint and all, and I was like, yeah, we should

632
00:38:17,239 --> 00:38:21,719
Speaker 2: let him pick who he wants to go to. I

633
00:38:21,800 --> 00:38:24,600
Speaker 2: felt so bad that they were putting this spell over

634
00:38:24,680 --> 00:38:27,160
Speaker 2: this unknowing little boy.

635
00:38:27,960 --> 00:38:28,520
Speaker 1: Did it work?

636
00:38:29,600 --> 00:38:30,600
Speaker 2: I don't think so. No.

637
00:38:31,520 --> 00:38:37,440
Speaker 1: My family insists on I can't remember what the saint is,

638
00:38:37,480 --> 00:38:41,040
Speaker 1: but you're supposed to buy a statue of this saint

639
00:38:41,480 --> 00:38:44,600
Speaker 1: and if you're trying to sell a house or a car,

640
00:38:45,040 --> 00:38:47,319
Speaker 1: you either put it like under the seat of the

641
00:38:47,360 --> 00:38:50,120
Speaker 1: car or like somewhere in the house, and it like

642
00:38:50,400 --> 00:38:54,920
Speaker 1: apparently works like magic. I don't know. I don't know.

643
00:38:56,120 --> 00:39:02,239
Speaker 4: I like the life hacks.

644
00:39:05,440 --> 00:39:09,360
Speaker 1: Do you want to hear some ghost voices? Okay, okay,

645
00:39:09,760 --> 00:39:12,680
Speaker 1: it's time for EVP.

646
00:39:13,560 --> 00:39:16,120
Speaker 2: Or ev Please.

647
00:39:16,960 --> 00:39:18,360
Speaker 1: Do you guys know what an EVP is?

648
00:39:20,239 --> 00:39:22,080
Speaker 2: I know, listen to your podcast?

649
00:39:22,160 --> 00:39:27,319
Speaker 1: Yeah right, okay, an EVP it's electronic voice phenomena. So

650
00:39:27,719 --> 00:39:29,560
Speaker 1: if you ever watch one of those ghost hunting shows

651
00:39:29,600 --> 00:39:32,040
Speaker 1: they capture it's when they capture a ghost speaking and

652
00:39:32,080 --> 00:39:33,680
Speaker 1: then they go, you know, oh my god, it just

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Speaker 1: said something. So I go to YouTube and I find

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Speaker 1: people that believe they've captured evp's and I have my

655
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Speaker 1: guests guess what they believe the ghost is saying. So

656
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Speaker 1: there is a right answer. This first one is from

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Speaker 1: somebody on YouTube named Ryan san Anto and this is

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Speaker 1: actually it's in Texas. It's in Saint Louis Cemetery Harry

659
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Speaker 1: in Castroville, Texas. What is this ghost saying? Wait one second, Okay,

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Speaker 1: did you hear anything I did? Yeah, I'll did it again.

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Speaker 2: Oh.

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Speaker 4: Vanessa doesn't like it. Vanessa does not like it.

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Speaker 2: Scared.

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Speaker 1: Well, you are sitting in the dark and next door

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Speaker 1: to a ghost child.

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Speaker 4: I know you look like you're like from the next

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Speaker 4: like the next iteration of Blair Witch Project with your

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Speaker 4: like beanie on.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, I'm scared. But it also reminds me of like,

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Speaker 2: you know, when I would have one night stands they

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Speaker 2: would say that in the morning.

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Speaker 1: Is that what you guys think?

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Speaker 4: It says?

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Speaker 1: Leave?

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Speaker 3: Oh?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that that ghost is like the ghost has had

677
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Speaker 4: it's fun and it's like, listen, it was really nice

678
00:41:11,920 --> 00:41:16,319
Speaker 4: talking to you, Brenda, and she's like it's Becky and

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Speaker 4: it's like.

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Speaker 1: Well, I'll give you some options because okay, it's open

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Speaker 1: to interpretation a bit. Is it a tease which you

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Speaker 1: know that could kind of go along with the same storyline?

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Speaker 1: Uh B leave, C lame or D cheese. All right,

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna play it again. I'm gonna play it one

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Speaker 1: more time. Maybe it was trying to maybe it was

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Speaker 1: trying to take a picture. Maybe they were like, oh,

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Speaker 1: were you taking a picture tease? I don't know. Okay,

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Speaker 1: here we go. Okay, are we sticking with leave?

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Speaker 2: I don't Yeah.

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Speaker 4: I mean I feel like it's either leave or the

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Speaker 4: or it's doing like law Ma's breathing, like.

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Speaker 1: It's very breath y. Whatever it is, it's breathe. They

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Speaker 1: definitely believe it is leave, and I mean, honestly, it

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Speaker 1: sounds exactly like that. Okay, let's do one more. This

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Speaker 1: one is from a w g HS on YouTube, which

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00:42:21,680 --> 00:42:27,239
Speaker 1: stands for Austin Waco Ghost Hunter Society. Maybe they're taking

697
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Speaker 1: submissions if you guys or you know, Vanessa. You're in Austin.

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Speaker 1: First Street Cemetery is where this is at in Waco, Texas?

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Speaker 1: You do? Okay, what does this one say? This one's

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Speaker 1: a little different. Okay, we'll fight again.

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Speaker 2: I hear something, but I can't make it out.

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00:42:57,040 --> 00:42:57,719
Speaker 1: I know it's.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it sounds sort of like garbled, like a like

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Speaker 4: a garbled radio station or.

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Speaker 1: Something you're listening to ninety six point. Let me do

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Speaker 1: another one. Okay, here's some options. Is it a please shower,

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Speaker 1: b y'all should burn? See I'll show her? Or d yes,

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00:43:28,680 --> 00:43:33,560
Speaker 1: bitch work. Okay, let me play it again.

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Speaker 2: I think i'll show her.

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00:43:43,680 --> 00:43:47,399
Speaker 1: Yeah, revenge in a movie, I'll show her.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Maybe it's sort of like a Betty Davis sort of

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Speaker 4: like like rivalry.

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Speaker 1: Totally well, they believe it's y'all should burn. Let me

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Speaker 1: play it again. With that knowledge, y'all shouldn I can

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Speaker 1: actually hear it.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, well, I mean, and y'all would be Texas accurate,

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Speaker 4: totally appreciate, which it's a good gender neutral.

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Speaker 1: I'm always like, okay, what the fuck Texas like? So

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Speaker 1: Southern hospitality is only when you're alive, because these fucking ghosts.

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Speaker 1: One of them's like leave the other ones like y'all

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Speaker 1: should burn? Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Is there one that says like would you like tea

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Speaker 2: some sweet? Yeah?

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Speaker 4: I mean maybe one that says like y'all come back now.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. I feel like once these people die, they're like, Okay,

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00:44:39,000 --> 00:44:41,839
Speaker 1: I was nice for all these years, and now it's

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Speaker 1: time to get real. Okay, let's do one more thing

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Speaker 1: I like to do, which is we do sort of

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Speaker 1: a rapid fire. Just give me like some quick like

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Speaker 1: a sentence or two thoughts on your thoughts on these

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00:44:57,200 --> 00:45:02,440
Speaker 1: unexplained phenomenas. Okay, you're ready, Here we go. UFOs. What

733
00:45:02,440 --> 00:45:04,080
Speaker 1: do you think Vanessa?

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00:45:05,280 --> 00:45:08,720
Speaker 2: Real? And I don't I'm scared?

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Speaker 1: Michael.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I I I fully believe they're real. And yeah

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Speaker 4: I have a lot of thoughts.

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Speaker 1: You think they're aliens?

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Speaker 4: Oh for sure? Yeah? Yeah, I'm open to it.

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Speaker 1: What about bigfoots?

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00:45:28,239 --> 00:45:29,000
Speaker 2: Maybe?

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00:45:29,560 --> 00:45:32,799
Speaker 4: Yeah, Like I mean there's some guys I've seen on

743
00:45:32,840 --> 00:45:36,360
Speaker 4: scruff that I'm like, is you know bigfoot? You know,

744
00:45:38,400 --> 00:45:41,040
Speaker 4: especially during the pandemic whenever everyone's like letting it all

745
00:45:41,080 --> 00:45:41,440
Speaker 4: grow in?

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00:45:41,880 --> 00:45:50,560
Speaker 1: So yeah, sure feet pick? What about demons?

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00:45:50,560 --> 00:45:51,600
Speaker 2: O real?

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00:45:52,560 --> 00:45:58,319
Speaker 4: And yeah, I mean that's what's funny is I didn't

749
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Speaker 4: grow up religious, but that one where I won't really

750
00:46:01,239 --> 00:46:04,719
Speaker 4: fuck with it. Yeah you know what I mean, Like like, like, what's.

751
00:46:04,480 --> 00:46:06,680
Speaker 1: The benefit to fucking with it? Is how I feel.

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00:46:06,600 --> 00:46:08,600
Speaker 4: Exactly, I think a little bit. Like I'm like I

753
00:46:08,600 --> 00:46:10,840
Speaker 4: feel like I could kind of like navigate ghosts and

754
00:46:10,920 --> 00:46:13,080
Speaker 4: aliens a little bit. But when versus people are like, oh,

755
00:46:13,160 --> 00:46:15,080
Speaker 4: let's do it like a demon thing, I'm like, m m,

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Speaker 4: I'm good.

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00:46:16,360 --> 00:46:21,240
Speaker 1: Right exactly, Okay, some more unexplained phenomenon. Should I join TikTok.

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00:46:22,719 --> 00:46:23,000
Speaker 3: Oh?

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00:46:23,040 --> 00:46:24,320
Speaker 2: I haven't.

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00:46:25,800 --> 00:46:31,480
Speaker 1: I have, but like I don't really use it, right

761
00:46:31,880 --> 00:46:34,439
Speaker 1: is it's hard for me. I have one, but it's

762
00:46:34,520 --> 00:46:36,600
Speaker 1: just so hard for me every time I go on,

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Speaker 1: I'm like, I don't think that this is a party

764
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Speaker 1: that I'm like actually wanted at.

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Speaker 4: Like you have to, like you have to like just

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Speaker 4: basically spin and change outfits, so like like like because

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00:46:50,480 --> 00:46:52,640
Speaker 4: that's like what you do on TikTok is you're like

768
00:46:52,680 --> 00:46:54,719
Speaker 4: you're looking and then you spin and you're in a

769
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Speaker 4: different outfit and then you like shrug and go yeah.

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Speaker 2: You cover the camera and then you're you're not there anymore.

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00:47:03,320 --> 00:47:06,280
Speaker 1: Yes, and then you have a full face of makeup.

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Speaker 1: That's what I'm like, first of all, that's not how

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00:47:08,960 --> 00:47:11,600
Speaker 1: it goes. I'm like, too real. I'm like the person

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Speaker 1: that has to get on there be like, first of all,

775
00:47:13,239 --> 00:47:18,480
Speaker 1: takes three hours. I had to shave. Okay, what about lockness? Monster?

776
00:47:18,600 --> 00:47:19,120
Speaker 1: Is that real?

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00:47:20,080 --> 00:47:25,239
Speaker 2: What do you think? Oh? Yes, I believe that the

778
00:47:25,280 --> 00:47:30,319
Speaker 2: ocean is full of secrets and the bottom is one

779
00:47:30,400 --> 00:47:34,680
Speaker 2: giant monster. Yeah.

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00:47:34,800 --> 00:47:38,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, like I believe in sea monsters, like in like yeah,

781
00:47:38,280 --> 00:47:40,759
Speaker 4: in the larger sense, like the Mariana Trench, Like I

782
00:47:40,760 --> 00:47:42,560
Speaker 4: don't know what's up in that gash, like it could

783
00:47:42,600 --> 00:47:46,880
Speaker 4: be like wild shit. But the lockness, the lockness, I'm like,

784
00:47:48,000 --> 00:47:50,359
Speaker 4: I don't know that shit isn't even that deep.

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Speaker 1: Okay, well, you guys, this was super fun. I'm so

786
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Speaker 1: happy that you joined me.

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Speaker 2: Oh my, thank you. I love you so much. Thanks

788
00:48:02,800 --> 00:48:03,600
Speaker 2: for having us.

789
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Speaker 1: Of course, tell people about the pod and everything else

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00:48:08,680 --> 00:48:09,600
Speaker 1: where they can find you.

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00:48:10,960 --> 00:48:14,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, listen to me and Michael on our pod. I'm

792
00:48:14,280 --> 00:48:19,040
Speaker 2: not busy because we're not where Michael.

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00:48:19,560 --> 00:48:24,360
Speaker 4: You can find it on Stitcher and Spotify and Apple podcasts.

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00:48:24,640 --> 00:48:28,719
Speaker 4: We have new episodes almost every Friday. We got a

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Speaker 4: great episode next week, and I have no idea which

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Speaker 4: one it's going to be because you have to find

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Speaker 4: out they're all good, because Vanessa's on them.

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Speaker 2: No, because Michael and hopefully Roz will join us for one.

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, I would be honored. And also, people

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Speaker 1: need to check out your comedy special, your comedy album

801
00:48:48,520 --> 00:48:52,680
Speaker 1: that I've personally told many people about. It is so funny, Vanessa,

802
00:48:52,760 --> 00:48:54,440
Speaker 1: it is so fucking funny.

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Speaker 2: Thank you. Yes that all of that's on my website

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Speaker 2: Vanessa dot com amazing, and Michael has a website I do.

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00:49:06,239 --> 00:49:09,920
Speaker 4: I also have a website, Michael Folk dot com. My

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00:49:10,000 --> 00:49:12,319
Speaker 4: first name is spelled weird, though you'll figure it out.

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Speaker 4: I have a lot of essays and writing and some

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00:49:16,640 --> 00:49:19,560
Speaker 4: videos of comedy on there as well. You can read

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00:49:20,120 --> 00:49:22,520
Speaker 4: my shrewd thoughts on all kinds of pop culture.

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Speaker 1: Thank you so much to Vanessa and Michael, and if

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Speaker 1: you want to hear more, go to patreon dot com

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Speaker 1: slash ros dressful us. On my second tier, we are

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Speaker 1: talking about a mishmash of fun spooky things. And on

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Speaker 1: my first tier at Patreon you can find me looking

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Speaker 1: for spooky houses that were in iconic horror movies and

816
00:49:49,560 --> 00:49:54,040
Speaker 1: TV shows. And I swear I'm not a creep, but

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Speaker 1: that's I guess for you to decide. Also find me

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Speaker 1: on stereo at rozdre fales, join the Facebook group ghosted

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Speaker 1: by Roz dress false and I guess my Instagram now

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Speaker 1: is at roz Hernandez. And you know all the other

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Speaker 1: places to find me. You know all the stuff at

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Speaker 1: this point, so I appreciate you guys listening every week.

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Speaker 1: Please leave a five star review or at least a

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Speaker 1: five star rating on Apple Podcasts. It would mean the

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Speaker 1: world to me and I will talk to you guys soon.

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Speaker 1: I love you all, both living and dead. But if

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Speaker 1: I didn't ask you to haunt me, don't haunt me, okay.

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Speaker 2: Back a podcast network