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Speaker 3: I suggested bringing my stepdaughter to therapy, and everyone got

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Speaker 3: furious at me. What's wrong with therapy? I hope my

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Speaker 3: to explain. Eight years ago, I thirty three female now,

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Speaker 3: met a young widower of thirty five male now who

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Speaker 3: had a six year old daughter fourteen female now. He

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Speaker 3: and his late wife had technically been separated at the

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Speaker 3: time of her passing, so he was ready to move on. However,

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Speaker 3: I believed his daughter needed help, and a few times

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Speaker 3: before we got married, I said as much. By the way,

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Speaker 4: I'm Sophia, I'm Carly, I'm Keon, and we're here to

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Speaker 4: give good advice.

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Speaker 3: Schoofully, but we don't have all the answers. We only

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Speaker 3: know what we'd do, So let us know what you

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Speaker 3: would do in the comments, and Op says I was

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Speaker 3: told she was just more reserved by nature and that

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Speaker 3: she would come around to me in time. This was

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Speaker 3: not just my husband saying this, His whole family said

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Speaker 3: the same thing. They told me. The proof was in

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Speaker 3: the fact that she was not being blatantly rude or disrespectful,

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Speaker 3: and was not throwing tantrums or acting out. I tried

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Speaker 3: to build a good relationship with my stepdaughter, but the

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Speaker 3: more time went on, the less it seemed likely or possible.

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Speaker 3: She was not outright angry, but she would not open

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Speaker 3: up to me or willingly spend any one on one

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Speaker 3: time with me. She did spend one on one time

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Speaker 3: with her dad, but at a certain point when he

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Speaker 3: and I had our first child. This also changed. Once

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Speaker 3: I was pregnant with our first child, her behavior did change.

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Speaker 3: She started getting angry, started cursing at me and yelling

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Speaker 3: at her dad for having another baby. She told him

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Speaker 3: he betrayed her mom and that she was not going

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Speaker 3: to accept our child as a sibling or accept him

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Speaker 3: being a dad to someone else's baby. Therapy, so much therapy,

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Speaker 3: so much therapy. He is bad.

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Speaker 1: That's what they're.

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Speaker 3: That's what they're, that's what's After I gave birth my

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Speaker 3: husband told me he put my stepdaughter in therapy and

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Speaker 3: said he realized help was needed. But when I was

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Speaker 5: Why are you even telling your wife this?

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Speaker 3: Then, it's just a weird thing to lie about. Why

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Speaker 3: you could just be like, you know what, I don't

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Speaker 3: think she should go in there, you guys get have

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Speaker 3: a conversation about yeah, in normal people. Yeah. Instead, he

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Speaker 3: took her to classes that were supposed to prepare kids

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Speaker 3: for being an older sibling, and we're meant to help

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Speaker 3: get them excited for a younger sibling. That seems like bad,

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Speaker 3: seems like what she does.

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Speaker 4: Not need seems like the opposite.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, They're like, don't you want to be an older sibling?

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Speaker 3: Isn't it great? And she's like, no kid. I hate

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Speaker 3: was a form of therapy. I started immersion theorpy done poorly.

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Speaker 3: I started speaking up more about my stepdaughter needing therapy,

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Speaker 3: While all this was going on, I never left her

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Speaker 3: I said she needed therapy. They said they felt like

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Speaker 3: She said, Hey, this kid needs help, and they think

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Speaker 5: You want her to get therapy? Monster say, and she's crazy.

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Speaker 3: I told my husband that actual therapy was needed.

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Speaker 5: Or I would be done.

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Speaker 3: He told me I needed to trust him, like like

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Speaker 3: when he lied about the therapy. That's who were supposed

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Speaker 3: She told several of her cousins that she was going

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Speaker 3: I was not the only person who heard this. I

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Speaker 3: she was bragging about wanting to upset her siblings. Yet again,

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Speaker 3: I was the monster. Even my husband refused to accept

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Speaker 3: the monster because I believe my stepdaughter needed therapy, and

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Speaker 3: a lot of therapy at this point. That night, on

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Speaker 3: and they did not get back to me until very late.

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Speaker 3: My husband was not expecting me to say it was over,

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Speaker 3: but I told him I was done, and I explained why.

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Speaker 4: Wow, I feel like I would be tried for a

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Speaker 4: really long time and it's totally valid to be like,

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Speaker 4: and now I'm going to remove my kids from this situation.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, potentially dangerous or just potentially bad situation. Mean person, Yeah,

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Speaker 3: who needs help and it's not even you know, really

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Speaker 3: about the stepdaughter. It is, but a lot of it

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Speaker 3: is your partner doesn't listen to.

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Speaker 4: You, Yeah, and doesn't care to help his child.

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Speaker 3: No. No, I have already filed for divorce into my

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Speaker 3: husband soon to be ex and his parents. That is

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Speaker 3: the worst thing. They keep making a point about me

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Speaker 4: When Op wants ruin I put in quotes Christmas by

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Speaker 4: bringing up therapy. He says, I'm going to do everything

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Speaker 4: in my power to make sure that I completely ruin

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Speaker 4: everybody's Christmas. That's not a problem.

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Speaker 3: Oh see. The crazy thing to me was that they're

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Speaker 3: suggesting therapy for Op. Yeah that's funny as well. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: that's that's so funny. I'd be like, oh my god,

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Speaker 3: are you saying that we're crazy? Are you saying that

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Speaker 3: to therapy have been sticking points for them. But I

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Speaker 3: me a monster. His daughter is giddy about terrorizing our children,

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Speaker 3: which he has zero issue with am I the A hole?

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Speaker 3: And there are some comments. What do you say? No, no, no,

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Speaker 3: get your kids out of there. Just to make it

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Speaker 3: really clear, no, no, I thought we were good. Harmona, Okay, no,

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Speaker 3: we went the same Nunes fine. Comment one, So you

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Speaker 3: guys needed to try therapy, but your stepdaughter didn't make

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Speaker 3: that make sense. That's what I was thinking. I don't

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Speaker 3: A hole. You should have left long ago. Look good,

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Speaker 3: you are finally getting out. The only monsters in this

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Speaker 3: in denial it is pathetic, and to the detriment of

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Speaker 3: your stepdaughter, who is becoming a monster all thanks to them,

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Speaker 3: not you. I would never ever allow your children to

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Speaker 3: be alone with him, because he is in denial, and

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Speaker 3: because she will potentially harm and mistreat your children. He

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Speaker 3: needs supervised visits. Op says. Supervised visits are not that

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Speaker 3: easy to make happen. I have some proof of all

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Speaker 3: the things that have happened, but in all honesty, they're

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Speaker 3: likely will not only be supervised Conde, but fifty to

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Speaker 3: fifty custody is most likely the outcome. I honestly should

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Speaker 3: never have married him. I should have trusted my own

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Speaker 3: best interests of each child all each of the three.

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Speaker 3: The government may fund such lawyers and advocate for supervised

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Speaker 3: visits in the best interests of each child. Comment three says,

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Speaker 3: not the ale. You owe your children a safe place

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Speaker 3: to grow up that is not here. They need at

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Speaker 3: least one safe space with that dumbut as a father.

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Speaker 3: He had eight years of consistently warning him and telling

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Speaker 3: He won't fix it. It'll make it look like he

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Speaker 3: will ramp up. Save yourself one. You're an amazing mom.

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Speaker 3: How you have advocated for this child who despises you

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Speaker 3: Hope he says it's not, but unfortunately they will still

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Speaker 3: most likely fifty percent of the time. It stresses me

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Speaker 3: the end of that story.

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Speaker 4: I refuse to host my ex for Christmas along with

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Speaker 3: You're all getting cold.

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Speaker 4: My ex husband and I have been divorced for just

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Speaker 4: over five years now. Our divorce was extremely difficult for

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Speaker 4: me and our kids, who are currently aged eleven and nine,

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Speaker 4: because we did not part on good terms. By the way,

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Speaker 3: I'm Carly, I'm Sophia, I'm Dakota, and.

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Speaker 4: We're here to give good advice. Goofuy. But we don't

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Speaker 4: have all the answers. We only know what we would do.

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Speaker 4: So let us know what you would do in the

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Speaker 4: comments and OP says. At the time I asked for

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Speaker 4: cheating on me for several years.

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Speaker 3: Several years.

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Speaker 4: It was being DNA tested for six potential children. There's

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Speaker 4: too many children that he may have fathered during our marriage.

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Speaker 3: What how are the only potential That's crazy. You can't

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Speaker 3: have six potential children. You get one potential child, you

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Speaker 2: But Sophia, a child's potential is limitless.

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Speaker 3: No, all the other children don't have potentially.

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Speaker 4: You're limiting these children.

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Speaker 3: They're gonna end up working at traffic court.

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Speaker 3: That's where they're going, no potential.

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Speaker 4: My ex husband ran through every excuse for what he

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Speaker 4: They ended up living with him a year after our divorce,

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Speaker 3: I just know they exist.

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Speaker 4: He sees our children one week and a month.

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Speaker 3: And also as your kids, how many kids do they have?

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Speaker 3: Both sides of what the hexagon, the freaking hextagon that

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and for me to host my ex husband and

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Speaker 3: For each other immediate.

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Speaker 4: No. I told that was not happening and that I

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Speaker 4: which is not something I want to start adding to

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Speaker 4: Can you imagine what if he had every other kid

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Speaker 3: He's got all fifteen, yeah, or twelve.

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Speaker 2: I gainst twelve.

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Speaker 3: It's a Dodeca gun twelve include kids, so it's like fourteen.

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Speaker 2: But he doesn't get those kids.

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Speaker 3: No, but they'll be at.

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Speaker 4: But when they all come to her house, they'll be there.

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Speaker 3: They'll all be there. They're all going to.

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Speaker 4: Be there, the ex in laws and the ex husband.

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Speaker 2: Oh boy, I don't think all the kids will be there.

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Speaker 3: I was just.

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Speaker 4: Saying, what if he had every single.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, worst kids? Four fourteen kids show up bang yeah, no,

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Speaker 4: Not to mention the ones he has all the time

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Speaker 4: He already tries to make us a family, so that

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Speaker 4: That is never going to happen. Does my refusal to

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Speaker 4: We have some comments, but no, no, no, I think

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we gotta be like, no, I don't want any

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Speaker 3: interaction with your children, your broode. Do we have a

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Speaker 4: OPI has them for all except for one weekend. Okay, Yeah,

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Speaker 4: it sounds as though Dad may still just come to them.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, let's let's keep it that way. Yeah, we don't

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Speaker 4: Or we collect all of them all fourteen, take a

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Speaker 3: You're right, you're and you're right about them.

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Speaker 4: Comment one. If the father or grandparents want to have

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Speaker 4: Opie says, that's a very good idea. The reason they

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Speaker 4: his other children. Someone replies, this is exactly the agenda.

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Speaker 4: He and his parents see a mental movie in which

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Speaker 4: your house is fragrant with the smell of the feast

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Speaker 4: you cooked for all of them, holiday tunes playing softly,

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Speaker 4: the kids all playing happily. Then, after everyone is full,

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Speaker 4: Of course, he turns to you and says, isn't this cozy?

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Speaker 4: Doesn't it just feel meant to be? He takes you

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Speaker 4: He's sired and boom, he's got a maid and a

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Speaker 4: mother figure who can raise them all for him. It's nauseating.

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Speaker 4: Isn't it comment too?

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Speaker 3: Dang, that comment really painted a picture. Indeed.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, not the ale. Good grief, okay, Charlie Brown.

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Speaker 3: Good grief, Charlie Brown.

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Speaker 4: Your former in laws appear delusional. They just want you

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Speaker 4: counting right, he has what fourteen kids in total?

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Speaker 3: Yes?

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Speaker 4: I do hope they're Christmas present to him. This year

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Speaker 4: is of a sectomy, truly.

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Speaker 3: Someone said in the chat, what's his child support like

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Speaker 3: or something? Excellent? Question? Excellent? How is he funding child

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Speaker 4: I think around five of them are just his full

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Speaker 3: Huang, So he's funding Okay, So he's supporting the lives

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Speaker 3: That's crazy. I don't know that custody agreement, dude, that's insane,

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Speaker 4: What's crazy he's expensive is the fact that he has

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Speaker 4: seven different custody agreements.

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Speaker 3: That's so crazy.

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Speaker 4: Opie says, fourteen that I know about. That's an important

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Speaker 4: or that he doesn't know about comment three, not the

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Speaker 4: any of this is okay. I wouldn't blame you if

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Speaker 4: you never spoke to him again, Opie said, I only

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Speaker 4: speak to him when it's required for our kids. Mostly

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Speaker 4: that's not even directly talking, but messaging through an app.

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Speaker 3: To help us co parent better. Is the end of that.

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Speaker 4: And that's the end of this story. We're gonna go

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Speaker 3: My wife exposed her sister's affair, so I left.

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Speaker 5: Her get out of there.

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Speaker 3: So two weeks ago, my wife, twenty eight female, exposed

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Speaker 3: Times subured at times, Sophia, I'm Carly.

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Speaker 3: They're worried to give good advice, goofy, but we don't

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Speaker 3: She also clicked a photo. It was a huge fight

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Speaker 3: Some were on her side and some were on my wife's.

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Speaker 3: A week later, my sister in law ended up telling

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Speaker 3: I asked her if she had proof, and she said no,

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Speaker 3: really none of your business what your wife. You know,

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Speaker 4: Priests did not overlap with you in any way. There

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Speaker 3: Also, if any of those guys actually sent those photos

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Speaker 3: And it's really gross that your wife probably shared.

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Speaker 4: A phone plan and she probably got them that way.

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Speaker 3: I politely declined, saying it would just traumatize me. What

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Speaker 3: do you mean it would?

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Speaker 4: Don't tell her that what.

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Speaker 3: Is going on. I begged her not to tell anyone

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Speaker 3: else about this, about what, literally about what genuinely about

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Speaker 3: what relationships before you? Oh, please please don't tell anyone

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Speaker 3: that my wife had a boyfriend before me. Please don't

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Speaker 3: tell anyone.

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Speaker 4: Crazy.

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Speaker 3: And also like I feel like he already knew, Yeah,

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Speaker 3: she dated other people. And also I'm sorry the sister

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Speaker 5: I would hope not.

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Speaker 3: It'd be weird. That'd be kind of weird. I mean,

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Speaker 3: it that, but I don't think you got to keep

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00:21:44,760 --> 00:21:47,359
Speaker 3: track of AM. She's got a notebook, she got no

442
00:21:47,480 --> 00:21:49,280
Speaker 3: She's like I lost count.

443
00:21:49,960 --> 00:21:50,480
Speaker 5: I lost her.

444
00:21:50,520 --> 00:21:52,800
Speaker 4: I couldn't keep up telling me after she realized I

445
00:21:52,840 --> 00:21:54,160
Speaker 4: had a notebook about it.

446
00:21:54,760 --> 00:21:57,919
Speaker 3: God, I said, I would literally pass away of shame

447
00:21:58,040 --> 00:22:01,480
Speaker 3: if my friends were colleagues found out you suck Opie.

448
00:22:01,520 --> 00:22:04,600
Speaker 3: All we know is that Opie's wife used to sleep

449
00:22:04,600 --> 00:22:07,600
Speaker 3: around so much that Opie's wife's sister didn't even know

450
00:22:07,600 --> 00:22:09,200
Speaker 3: how many men she had been with. That's all we know,

451
00:22:09,359 --> 00:22:10,920
Speaker 3: and Opie's ashamed of that. Weird.

452
00:22:10,960 --> 00:22:12,800
Speaker 4: It's not out of your business, weird.

453
00:22:13,600 --> 00:22:15,400
Speaker 3: I asked her to just do me a favor for

454
00:22:15,440 --> 00:22:18,199
Speaker 3: my sake, and she thankfully agreed. I went to my

455
00:22:18,240 --> 00:22:20,880
Speaker 3: wife and told her everything and asked if it was true.

456
00:22:21,119 --> 00:22:23,640
Speaker 3: She got angry and instead of replying to me, called

457
00:22:23,640 --> 00:22:27,160
Speaker 3: her sister. There was an hour long screaming match between them.

458
00:22:27,280 --> 00:22:30,359
Speaker 3: Instead of focusing on me, she wanted to fight her sister,

459
00:22:30,640 --> 00:22:32,399
Speaker 3: so I went to the kitchen and got a bottle.

460
00:22:32,560 --> 00:22:35,439
Speaker 3: They were at each other's throats, blaming each other for

461
00:22:35,520 --> 00:22:38,639
Speaker 3: ruining each other's lives, and who knows what else. I

462
00:22:38,720 --> 00:22:40,640
Speaker 3: feared that if they weren't on the call, they would

463
00:22:40,680 --> 00:22:44,360
Speaker 3: have thrown hands. By the time my wife ended her

464
00:22:44,400 --> 00:22:48,080
Speaker 3: call with her sister, I was wasted and overthinking. My

465
00:22:48,160 --> 00:22:49,960
Speaker 3: wife came to talk to me, and the first thing

466
00:22:50,080 --> 00:22:52,479
Speaker 3: I said was that if she was done fighting with

467
00:22:52,520 --> 00:22:56,160
Speaker 3: their sister, maybe she could finally focus on her husband.

468
00:22:56,480 --> 00:22:58,760
Speaker 3: She asked what I meant, and I said that instead

469
00:22:58,760 --> 00:23:01,560
Speaker 3: of talking to me and answering me, she went on

470
00:23:01,600 --> 00:23:04,240
Speaker 3: a verbal bra with her sister When I was in

471
00:23:04,400 --> 00:23:07,919
Speaker 3: so much pain, I just found out that I'm not

472
00:23:08,000 --> 00:23:11,000
Speaker 3: the only man you've been with. Why aren't you focusing

473
00:23:11,040 --> 00:23:11,320
Speaker 3: on me?

474
00:23:12,720 --> 00:23:14,800
Speaker 4: Unt like actually getting you op?

475
00:23:15,320 --> 00:23:18,560
Speaker 3: This is working on you. Literally, this is your sister

476
00:23:18,720 --> 00:23:21,040
Speaker 3: in law's plan to a t. This is her sister

477
00:23:21,080 --> 00:23:22,240
Speaker 3: in law's plan, and you're.

478
00:23:22,160 --> 00:23:24,400
Speaker 4: Falling for a minded individual.

479
00:23:25,160 --> 00:23:27,679
Speaker 3: My wife grabbed my hand and said she was sorry.

480
00:23:27,960 --> 00:23:30,000
Speaker 3: She said the topic never came up between us, so

481
00:23:30,040 --> 00:23:32,760
Speaker 3: she didn't tell me. She wanted to hide and forget

482
00:23:32,760 --> 00:23:35,080
Speaker 3: about her past. I asked if it was true, and

483
00:23:35,119 --> 00:23:37,600
Speaker 3: my wife said it was. Why are you freaking shaming

484
00:23:37,680 --> 00:23:40,879
Speaker 3: your wife's I asked if she had ever cheated on me?

485
00:23:41,040 --> 00:23:43,680
Speaker 3: To crosscheck what my sister in law said. My wife

486
00:23:43,680 --> 00:23:46,200
Speaker 3: said she would never and has never been with another

487
00:23:46,240 --> 00:23:49,320
Speaker 3: man since she met me five years ago. So literally

488
00:23:49,359 --> 00:23:53,119
Speaker 3: nothing else matters. Literally, I need you to grow up.

489
00:23:53,359 --> 00:23:57,480
Speaker 3: None of her history. Relationship history is your business. That's it.

490
00:23:57,880 --> 00:24:01,680
Speaker 3: She didn't cheat on you. We're good. She looked at

491
00:24:01,760 --> 00:24:04,240
Speaker 3: other men, she was thinking of other men before she

492
00:24:04,280 --> 00:24:05,480
Speaker 3: was take me your hand.

493
00:24:05,880 --> 00:24:10,160
Speaker 4: Oh, sometimes a smooch disgusting.

494
00:24:10,640 --> 00:24:13,159
Speaker 3: I was already pissed when my sister in law told me,

495
00:24:13,320 --> 00:24:15,320
Speaker 3: and when my wife ignored me and went on a

496
00:24:15,320 --> 00:24:18,680
Speaker 3: screaming match, I got even more pissed when I got wasted.

497
00:24:18,720 --> 00:24:21,600
Speaker 3: I couldn't control myself. You suck. I said to my

498
00:24:21,680 --> 00:24:24,280
Speaker 3: wife that she should have told me before. Should she

499
00:24:24,359 --> 00:24:26,800
Speaker 3: have because apparently you're going to react like a little baby.

500
00:24:26,880 --> 00:24:27,320
Speaker 3: I don't know.

501
00:24:27,400 --> 00:24:29,840
Speaker 4: Maybe be curious enough to ask about your wife.

502
00:24:30,080 --> 00:24:32,280
Speaker 3: I don't know. I feel like it's like if you

503
00:24:32,359 --> 00:24:34,040
Speaker 3: wanted to ask, you could have been like, hey, can

504
00:24:34,080 --> 00:24:37,760
Speaker 3: we talk about like you know what? Also, does it

505
00:24:37,880 --> 00:24:42,000
Speaker 3: matter some man or many men might have my wife's

506
00:24:42,000 --> 00:24:44,000
Speaker 3: spicy picks, and she never said a word.

507
00:24:44,240 --> 00:24:47,120
Speaker 4: I doubt any of them have them.

508
00:24:47,280 --> 00:24:49,840
Speaker 3: Okay, so for one, be really weird if they still

509
00:24:49,920 --> 00:24:53,840
Speaker 3: kept your wife's spicy picks, hopefully if they are any

510
00:24:53,840 --> 00:24:56,800
Speaker 3: sort of deson, they deleted them two. If they send

511
00:24:56,880 --> 00:25:01,439
Speaker 3: them around, it's illegal. Full it's illegal. Can't do that.

512
00:25:01,720 --> 00:25:04,960
Speaker 3: So I don't know what you want here, buddy. She

513
00:25:05,040 --> 00:25:06,879
Speaker 3: said she wanted to forget about it all, and that

514
00:25:06,960 --> 00:25:09,640
Speaker 3: it's been so many years nobody cares anymore. I said

515
00:25:09,680 --> 00:25:12,280
Speaker 3: that both sisters were the same and that they both

516
00:25:12,480 --> 00:25:17,760
Speaker 3: just loved d You suck. You literally sucked you like

517
00:25:17,920 --> 00:25:21,840
Speaker 3: yours anymore. I'm sorry we're comparing your wife's sister who

518
00:25:21,920 --> 00:25:25,360
Speaker 3: cheated on her husband to your wife, who had relationships

519
00:25:25,400 --> 00:25:28,399
Speaker 3: before you and has been loyalty. I told her I

520
00:25:28,480 --> 00:25:32,000
Speaker 3: wanted a divorce asap, which I still regret saying. My

521
00:25:32,080 --> 00:25:34,600
Speaker 3: wife started crying and left while I was drinking. You

522
00:25:34,680 --> 00:25:37,800
Speaker 3: literally suck. My wife came back after ten minutes or so.

523
00:25:37,800 --> 00:25:40,080
Speaker 3: She said she was sorry for not telling me. She

524
00:25:40,160 --> 00:25:43,080
Speaker 3: called her sister because she exposed her past, which doesn't

525
00:25:43,119 --> 00:25:46,480
Speaker 3: matter anymore, and now she's ruining her life by exposing

526
00:25:46,480 --> 00:25:49,040
Speaker 3: your cheating, which was the right thing to do. She said,

527
00:25:49,040 --> 00:25:51,840
Speaker 3: she's sorry, and then I drank too much and should sleep.

528
00:25:52,280 --> 00:25:54,399
Speaker 3: She took me to bed without dinner, and we just

529
00:25:54,440 --> 00:25:58,199
Speaker 3: fell asleep and cried. We are getting to almost the

530
00:25:58,480 --> 00:26:03,520
Speaker 3: end of this story, and I cannot wait to see

531
00:26:03,520 --> 00:26:06,240
Speaker 3: the comments because I hope they are tearing you apart.

532
00:26:07,920 --> 00:26:10,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, because you deserve, you little insecure man.

533
00:26:11,040 --> 00:26:13,560
Speaker 3: Truly, I hope you guys get divorced because you don't

534
00:26:13,560 --> 00:26:14,399
Speaker 3: deserve this lady.

535
00:26:14,720 --> 00:26:18,280
Speaker 4: Do her justice, leave for her benefit.

536
00:26:18,560 --> 00:26:21,880
Speaker 3: Please. The next day I apologize to her. She said

537
00:26:21,880 --> 00:26:25,520
Speaker 3: it wasn't necessary because I was wasted and angry. Since then,

538
00:26:25,560 --> 00:26:27,440
Speaker 3: I regret what I said to my wife, and our

539
00:26:27,480 --> 00:26:29,840
Speaker 3: marriage is not the same. Yeah, because you ruined it.

540
00:26:29,840 --> 00:26:32,200
Speaker 3: It's awkward and I have my own feelings. I am

541
00:26:32,320 --> 00:26:34,879
Speaker 3: very hurt that my wife was someone like this. After

542
00:26:34,960 --> 00:26:37,159
Speaker 3: the way my wife reacted, I know she loves me,

543
00:26:37,280 --> 00:26:39,680
Speaker 3: but I can't get over this. I am wondering if

544
00:26:39,720 --> 00:26:42,080
Speaker 3: I am the a hole yes for wanting to divorce

545
00:26:42,119 --> 00:26:44,320
Speaker 3: my wife, or if I should give a second chance

546
00:26:44,359 --> 00:26:46,960
Speaker 3: to my marriage. I am losing my mind over this

547
00:26:47,040 --> 00:26:51,680
Speaker 3: drama and the revelation. I have started drinking to cope

548
00:26:51,720 --> 00:26:52,000
Speaker 3: with it.

549
00:26:52,200 --> 00:26:56,600
Speaker 5: Oh boy, boy, oh boy, that's fully on you, dude.

550
00:26:57,240 --> 00:26:58,240
Speaker 3: There are comments.

551
00:26:58,760 --> 00:27:01,440
Speaker 5: Oh boy, let's get into the comments.

552
00:27:01,480 --> 00:27:03,520
Speaker 4: Please save my hope in humanity.

553
00:27:03,800 --> 00:27:06,199
Speaker 3: Comment one. Were you a virgin at the time of

554
00:27:06,240 --> 00:27:08,840
Speaker 3: your marriage or did you ask your wife before marriage

555
00:27:08,880 --> 00:27:11,359
Speaker 3: that you are only interested in women who haven't slept

556
00:27:11,359 --> 00:27:13,520
Speaker 3: with anyone before marriage? And she lied to you? How

557
00:27:13,520 --> 00:27:16,480
Speaker 3: can you divorce your wife over something she did before marriage?

558
00:27:16,840 --> 00:27:18,919
Speaker 3: She didn't cheat with you, If anything, she took a

559
00:27:18,920 --> 00:27:22,000
Speaker 3: stand against cheating. And here you are saying, my sister

560
00:27:22,040 --> 00:27:24,720
Speaker 3: in law won't lie to me because we're close. Are

561
00:27:24,760 --> 00:27:27,199
Speaker 3: you closer to her than her husband whom she cheated on?

562
00:27:27,520 --> 00:27:30,480
Speaker 3: Your wife deserves much, much, much better than a husband

563
00:27:30,520 --> 00:27:34,280
Speaker 3: like you. Yes, yeah, I love that comment. Yes, yes,

564
00:27:35,200 --> 00:27:35,600
Speaker 3: you suck.

565
00:27:35,640 --> 00:27:38,479
Speaker 4: Ope, you're the ahle You suck. I don't like your

566
00:27:38,680 --> 00:27:41,439
Speaker 4: your wife's sister's the a hole. Your wife sounds lovely.

567
00:27:41,800 --> 00:27:45,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, maybe has some sort of like anger to work

568
00:27:45,560 --> 00:27:50,119
Speaker 3: through in therapy. But other than that, lovely, lovely. But

569
00:27:50,400 --> 00:27:52,240
Speaker 3: that's the end of that story. Folks.

570
00:27:52,640 --> 00:27:55,320
Speaker 4: My husband attempted to cheat with me.

571
00:27:55,600 --> 00:28:01,480
Speaker 3: If do you like peanck lots I got in the rain.

572
00:28:01,720 --> 00:28:06,080
Speaker 4: And this comes directly from our subreddit WHOA and we

573
00:28:06,200 --> 00:28:10,040
Speaker 4: do have a trigger warning for verbal mistreatment. I met

574
00:28:10,040 --> 00:28:12,800
Speaker 4: my husband, let's call him Michael, when I was in

575
00:28:12,800 --> 00:28:15,720
Speaker 4: my early twenties. I say that was why I thought

576
00:28:15,800 --> 00:28:18,080
Speaker 4: he was the best person I had ever met and

577
00:28:18,160 --> 00:28:21,800
Speaker 4: agreed to marry him nine days after we met.

578
00:28:22,080 --> 00:28:23,360
Speaker 3: Opie is one of us.

579
00:28:23,680 --> 00:28:26,520
Speaker 2: Nah, I don't care. Nah, that's crazy. Don't do that,

580
00:28:26,840 --> 00:28:28,919
Speaker 2: never do that ever again. Now you know?

581
00:28:29,240 --> 00:28:29,720
Speaker 3: Now you know.

582
00:28:29,920 --> 00:28:33,280
Speaker 4: By the way, this comes from Infinite Magazine one five two,

583
00:28:33,359 --> 00:28:35,320
Speaker 4: And if you want us submit your own stories, go

584
00:28:35,400 --> 00:28:37,200
Speaker 4: to the r slash okay storytime subreddit.

585
00:28:37,240 --> 00:28:40,000
Speaker 3: I'm Carly, I'm Sophia, I'm Dakota, and.

586
00:28:39,920 --> 00:28:42,120
Speaker 4: We're here to give good advice goofully, But we don't

587
00:28:42,120 --> 00:28:44,280
Speaker 4: have all the answers. We only know what we would do,

588
00:28:44,480 --> 00:28:45,960
Speaker 4: So let us know what you would do in the comments.

589
00:28:46,360 --> 00:28:49,160
Speaker 4: And no Pi says he came on strong. He came

590
00:28:49,160 --> 00:28:52,800
Speaker 4: from a nice family that my mom knew for many years,

591
00:28:53,160 --> 00:28:55,800
Speaker 4: and I had never had someone send me a dozen

592
00:28:55,880 --> 00:28:58,960
Speaker 4: red roses to my job the day after we met. Before,

593
00:28:59,320 --> 00:29:02,680
Speaker 4: I was naive and thought I had met the love

594
00:29:02,720 --> 00:29:04,800
Speaker 4: of my life. Within a few months, we moved in

595
00:29:04,880 --> 00:29:08,200
Speaker 4: together and were married. Just over a year after we met.

596
00:29:08,360 --> 00:29:11,520
Speaker 4: I got pregnant with my oldest son just before our

597
00:29:11,520 --> 00:29:15,360
Speaker 4: wedding date. Fast forward to after the wedding date. While

598
00:29:15,400 --> 00:29:18,440
Speaker 4: standing outside the double doors of the church before they

599
00:29:18,480 --> 00:29:20,600
Speaker 4: opened for me to walk down the aisle, I told

600
00:29:20,640 --> 00:29:22,960
Speaker 4: my cousin that I didn't want to do this to

601
00:29:23,080 --> 00:29:27,000
Speaker 4: the birth of my oldest now almost twenty nine. He

602
00:29:27,160 --> 00:29:30,200
Speaker 4: was born early, had trouble breathing, and spent the first

603
00:29:30,200 --> 00:29:32,240
Speaker 4: eight days of his life in the ICU.

604
00:29:32,400 --> 00:29:34,959
Speaker 2: Hey, that's long enough for that baby to get married.

605
00:29:35,680 --> 00:29:40,120
Speaker 3: Almost like I've been here eight days. I like it.

606
00:29:40,960 --> 00:29:44,560
Speaker 2: I met a really nice nurse. Nurse and no another baby.

607
00:29:45,160 --> 00:29:47,360
Speaker 2: The baby's gotta get married to a baby.

608
00:29:47,600 --> 00:29:51,360
Speaker 3: Right right, include baby, include baby. I saw the most

609
00:29:51,400 --> 00:29:56,160
Speaker 3: beautiful baby. Okay, cross it was milk clossom.

610
00:29:56,680 --> 00:30:00,920
Speaker 2: That's yeah, that's what the baby his way over. Yeah,

611
00:30:01,000 --> 00:30:04,080
Speaker 2: that brought to you here my lunchstone to work.

612
00:30:06,160 --> 00:30:08,240
Speaker 3: I'm a pretty much up baby, pretty much up baby.

613
00:30:08,360 --> 00:30:11,120
Speaker 3: I was out too early. I'm a pretty chub baby.

614
00:30:11,160 --> 00:30:15,520
Speaker 3: I'm a baby. I don't really have to hurry.

615
00:30:16,320 --> 00:30:17,320
Speaker 2: We're working on that one.

616
00:30:17,360 --> 00:30:17,800
Speaker 3: We got.

617
00:30:17,920 --> 00:30:20,959
Speaker 2: We got Cajun alligator, German alligator.

618
00:30:21,160 --> 00:30:25,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, he got a tracheostomy on Christmas Eve and at

619
00:30:25,400 --> 00:30:29,160
Speaker 4: two years old, went on a ventilator full time. Wow,

620
00:30:29,720 --> 00:30:31,920
Speaker 4: I should have known when I didn't want to get

621
00:30:31,920 --> 00:30:35,000
Speaker 4: married standing in the church. But I did it anyway.

622
00:30:35,320 --> 00:30:36,760
Speaker 3: I should have known it was a mistake.

623
00:30:36,800 --> 00:30:39,560
Speaker 4: When my best friend, let's call her Danny, drove me

624
00:30:39,640 --> 00:30:41,920
Speaker 4: to the hospital when I was in labor a month

625
00:30:41,920 --> 00:30:42,720
Speaker 4: and a half early.

626
00:30:42,880 --> 00:30:44,000
Speaker 3: Whoa, but I didn't.

627
00:30:44,880 --> 00:30:48,360
Speaker 4: He had so many doctor's appointments and hospital stays, and

628
00:30:48,480 --> 00:30:51,320
Speaker 4: the first time I did CPR on him he was

629
00:30:51,400 --> 00:30:52,240
Speaker 4: six months old.

630
00:30:52,360 --> 00:30:56,280
Speaker 3: God, wow, that's so hard. We're all heavy ones today, folks. Well,

631
00:30:56,840 --> 00:30:58,680
Speaker 3: I mean, the good news that we know is that

632
00:30:58,720 --> 00:30:59,960
Speaker 3: this kid is now twenty nine.

633
00:31:01,040 --> 00:31:03,360
Speaker 4: He had nurses to help take care of him at home.

634
00:31:03,600 --> 00:31:06,400
Speaker 4: Most of them were amazing. I couldn't have asked for better,

635
00:31:06,600 --> 00:31:09,200
Speaker 4: but not all of them. I was pregnant with my

636
00:31:09,320 --> 00:31:12,000
Speaker 4: second son and going into labor two months early. You

637
00:31:12,040 --> 00:31:14,240
Speaker 4: want a guess who drove me to the hospital this time?

638
00:31:14,400 --> 00:31:17,160
Speaker 4: My mom My husband decided to stay home with the

639
00:31:17,240 --> 00:31:20,480
Speaker 4: nurse instead of taking his very pregnant and scared wife

640
00:31:20,480 --> 00:31:23,960
Speaker 4: to the hospital. Yep, you guessed it. He was trying

641
00:31:23,960 --> 00:31:24,600
Speaker 4: to sleep with her.

642
00:31:24,880 --> 00:31:25,280
Speaker 3: Hikes.

643
00:31:25,400 --> 00:31:27,520
Speaker 4: Not really sure if he did or not, but I

644
00:31:27,640 --> 00:31:30,440
Speaker 4: later learned he was trying. At least that was what

645
00:31:30,520 --> 00:31:33,160
Speaker 4: she told me. Again, I should have gotten the hint,

646
00:31:33,320 --> 00:31:36,400
Speaker 4: but I didn't. About two years later, I thought Michael

647
00:31:36,440 --> 00:31:39,160
Speaker 4: was cheating on me. At this time, I had never

648
00:31:39,360 --> 00:31:41,960
Speaker 4: caught him. I didn't know that he had been hitting on,

649
00:31:42,400 --> 00:31:44,760
Speaker 4: at the bare minimum, the nurse who was taking care

650
00:31:44,760 --> 00:31:47,240
Speaker 4: of my son. He always made it out like I

651
00:31:47,440 --> 00:31:51,640
Speaker 4: was crazy, paranoid and he was an angel, being accused

652
00:31:51,640 --> 00:31:55,880
Speaker 4: of things he just wasn't doing. Never mind the conversations

653
00:31:55,920 --> 00:31:58,320
Speaker 4: I found in a private chat with someone I had

654
00:31:58,360 --> 00:32:03,120
Speaker 4: considered one of my best friends talking about a threesome.

655
00:32:04,520 --> 00:32:04,800
Speaker 3: Yay.

656
00:32:05,800 --> 00:32:08,840
Speaker 4: He said that it wasn't cheating, that if I agreed

657
00:32:08,840 --> 00:32:12,120
Speaker 4: to it, I would be there too, so he wasn't cheating.

658
00:32:12,120 --> 00:32:15,600
Speaker 3: It's actually you just need to sign right here and

659
00:32:15,640 --> 00:32:19,840
Speaker 3: then it's not cheating, like right now, yes, babe, baby,

660
00:32:19,840 --> 00:32:20,480
Speaker 3: it would be.

661
00:32:20,760 --> 00:32:23,760
Speaker 4: It was three, but but we could make it four.

662
00:32:23,960 --> 00:32:26,880
Speaker 3: There's room, There is room. Don't worry like right now,

663
00:32:26,960 --> 00:32:30,960
Speaker 3: yes could be seen as cheating. You say yes to

664
00:32:31,120 --> 00:32:35,520
Speaker 3: this once in a lifetime deal. Sign right there, thank you?

665
00:32:35,600 --> 00:32:37,560
Speaker 3: There and an initial on the next thing. Yeah, yeah,

666
00:32:37,600 --> 00:32:40,680
Speaker 3: there's three initials. Yeah, okay, that's the third right there.

667
00:32:40,960 --> 00:32:44,400
Speaker 4: I didn't agree. I should have left again, but I didn't.

668
00:32:44,720 --> 00:32:46,920
Speaker 4: At this point, it wasn't because I loved him, but

669
00:32:46,960 --> 00:32:49,640
Speaker 4: I was scared to have the responsibility of my oldest

670
00:32:49,640 --> 00:32:52,360
Speaker 4: son on my own. It was a lot to take

671
00:32:52,400 --> 00:32:52,960
Speaker 4: care of him.

672
00:32:53,320 --> 00:32:54,000
Speaker 3: At this point.

673
00:32:54,040 --> 00:32:57,080
Speaker 4: We had to do CPR on him four to five times,

674
00:32:57,720 --> 00:33:00,200
Speaker 4: and I was afraid to be alone with him. I

675
00:33:00,200 --> 00:33:03,800
Speaker 4: couldn't stand the doubts any longer. I knew I wasn't crazy,

676
00:33:04,040 --> 00:33:07,480
Speaker 4: and that if given the chance, he would absolutely cheat

677
00:33:07,520 --> 00:33:10,400
Speaker 4: on me if he hadn't already. But I knew I

678
00:33:10,480 --> 00:33:14,120
Speaker 4: needed undeniable proof. Something he couldn't say was all in

679
00:33:14,200 --> 00:33:17,560
Speaker 4: my mind, something I was making up. During this time,

680
00:33:17,640 --> 00:33:20,680
Speaker 4: he had become verbally harmful. He called me every name

681
00:33:20,720 --> 00:33:23,600
Speaker 4: he could think of. I had enough, but still stayed.

682
00:33:23,960 --> 00:33:26,640
Speaker 4: I was scared to leave. He controlled all the money,

683
00:33:26,960 --> 00:33:29,920
Speaker 4: I had no job, and with all the medical care

684
00:33:30,040 --> 00:33:32,520
Speaker 4: my son needed, it was hard for me to keep one.

685
00:33:32,800 --> 00:33:35,400
Speaker 4: I finally made up my mind that I needed proof.

686
00:33:35,600 --> 00:33:37,720
Speaker 4: I had a web page for my son with both

687
00:33:37,720 --> 00:33:40,680
Speaker 4: of our emails listed that we could receive messages. A

688
00:33:40,720 --> 00:33:44,400
Speaker 4: girl named Jennifer was writing to Michael. He didn't know

689
00:33:44,760 --> 00:33:47,880
Speaker 4: that I knew about it. She was the female version

690
00:33:47,920 --> 00:33:51,160
Speaker 4: of him, exactly his dream girl down to the perfect

691
00:33:51,160 --> 00:33:54,000
Speaker 4: figure and hair color that he liked. He couldn't have

692
00:33:54,040 --> 00:33:57,000
Speaker 4: made her any more perfect if he tried. He set

693
00:33:57,080 --> 00:33:59,239
Speaker 4: up to meet her one afternoon when he had his

694
00:33:59,320 --> 00:34:02,160
Speaker 4: kids from a pretty marriage. I called his ex wife

695
00:34:02,160 --> 00:34:04,440
Speaker 4: and asked her if she would call him and ask

696
00:34:04,520 --> 00:34:06,400
Speaker 4: him to take the kids home early that day.

697
00:34:06,480 --> 00:34:09,520
Speaker 3: But he had an ex wife. I guess how old

698
00:34:09,600 --> 00:34:12,320
Speaker 3: is he? I don't know, because you're in your early

699
00:34:12,360 --> 00:34:14,040
Speaker 3: twenties when he asked you to marry him. If he

700
00:34:14,080 --> 00:34:17,200
Speaker 3: already had an ex wife with kids, was he a

701
00:34:17,239 --> 00:34:18,239
Speaker 3: lot older than you?

702
00:34:19,160 --> 00:34:22,719
Speaker 4: I'm my guess that, and she was more than agreeable.

703
00:34:22,960 --> 00:34:25,360
Speaker 4: Her parents were visiting and they wanted to see the kids,

704
00:34:25,600 --> 00:34:28,200
Speaker 4: so she was on board. He was taking them home early,

705
00:34:28,640 --> 00:34:31,680
Speaker 4: changed his email passwords so I couldn't get into it anymore,

706
00:34:32,160 --> 00:34:34,800
Speaker 4: changed the meeting spot and time he was meeting Jennifer,

707
00:34:35,120 --> 00:34:37,040
Speaker 4: and thought he was in the clear to set his

708
00:34:37,120 --> 00:34:40,600
Speaker 4: meeting with the angel that was sent from heaven just

709
00:34:40,719 --> 00:34:42,760
Speaker 4: for him. His words, not mine.

710
00:34:42,960 --> 00:34:46,400
Speaker 3: Why is this beautiful woman going on a date with him? Yeah?

711
00:34:46,440 --> 00:34:48,960
Speaker 4: That day I pulled my huge man in behind my

712
00:34:49,000 --> 00:34:51,000
Speaker 4: little car that he was using to meet with his

713
00:34:51,160 --> 00:34:54,280
Speaker 4: perfect woman. He was inside the store getting a drink,

714
00:34:54,640 --> 00:34:56,960
Speaker 4: and when he came out, he never noticed that I

715
00:34:57,040 --> 00:35:00,319
Speaker 4: was blocking him in nice After he got go in

716
00:35:00,400 --> 00:35:02,840
Speaker 4: and looked in the rear view mirror, he saw my

717
00:35:03,160 --> 00:35:06,040
Speaker 4: huge van. He got out and came to my door.

718
00:35:06,640 --> 00:35:09,839
Speaker 4: I rolled down my window and smiled so sweetly at him. Well,

719
00:35:09,880 --> 00:35:12,320
Speaker 4: he asked me what I was doing there, still glancing

720
00:35:12,360 --> 00:35:15,840
Speaker 4: around for Jennifer. I sweetly told him she's not coming.

721
00:35:16,239 --> 00:35:18,680
Speaker 3: I don't know why I thought Jennifer was a real person,

722
00:35:18,719 --> 00:35:20,880
Speaker 3: but I'm now realizing that OPI made her wrapp. I

723
00:35:20,920 --> 00:35:23,959
Speaker 3: also thought Jennifer, Um, yeah, I thought you were like, yeah,

724
00:35:23,960 --> 00:35:27,080
Speaker 3: there was this Okay, No, she's been fake, fake woman. Yes,

725
00:35:27,440 --> 00:35:30,000
Speaker 3: I'm up to speed now, and that's why she was

726
00:35:30,080 --> 00:35:34,200
Speaker 3: interested in Obie's husband. Yes, because she was fake, I

727
00:35:34,280 --> 00:35:35,120
Speaker 3: understand now.

728
00:35:35,239 --> 00:35:37,799
Speaker 4: The look on his face was priceless. He of course

729
00:35:37,800 --> 00:35:40,680
Speaker 4: replied with the normal I don't know what you're talking about. Again,

730
00:35:40,920 --> 00:35:45,520
Speaker 4: I smiled and said she's not coming, making sure to

731
00:35:45,560 --> 00:35:48,800
Speaker 4: say each word slowly so he got the message. He

732
00:35:48,920 --> 00:35:51,400
Speaker 4: again tried to say he didn't know what I was

733
00:35:51,480 --> 00:35:54,800
Speaker 4: talking about, so I semi politely reached for the paper

734
00:35:54,880 --> 00:35:58,440
Speaker 4: on my passenger seat shoved the printed email. He had

735
00:35:58,440 --> 00:36:02,200
Speaker 4: sent to Jennifer, changed the time and place into his

736
00:36:02,320 --> 00:36:07,520
Speaker 4: chest and said, Jennifer, she's not coming. I'm Jennifer. He

737
00:36:07,680 --> 00:36:10,200
Speaker 4: thought that I was in his email and that was

738
00:36:10,239 --> 00:36:12,920
Speaker 4: how I knew about her, not that I was her.

739
00:36:13,200 --> 00:36:15,400
Speaker 4: He thought I would show up at the old meeting

740
00:36:15,440 --> 00:36:18,359
Speaker 4: place and time and he wouldn't be there. He thought

741
00:36:18,400 --> 00:36:20,880
Speaker 4: he was going to get away with it again. It

742
00:36:21,000 --> 00:36:24,960
Speaker 4: was the only time I ever saw him speechless, even

743
00:36:25,160 --> 00:36:27,520
Speaker 4: in front of the judge that granted me a two

744
00:36:27,600 --> 00:36:29,800
Speaker 4: year protective order, he wasn't speechless.

745
00:36:29,880 --> 00:36:32,080
Speaker 3: Well, it seems like you have a protective order and

746
00:36:32,280 --> 00:36:35,080
Speaker 3: didn't stay with him very long. It seems like it

747
00:36:35,120 --> 00:36:37,000
Speaker 3: was like maybe a couple of years.

748
00:36:37,200 --> 00:36:39,520
Speaker 4: And I'm sure you remember every bit of his face

749
00:36:39,560 --> 00:36:40,400
Speaker 4: looking shocked.

750
00:36:40,800 --> 00:36:43,879
Speaker 3: Yeah, and that's satisfying you did it. Yeah, he got

751
00:36:43,920 --> 00:36:45,440
Speaker 3: out of there. Yeah, and it seems like you have

752
00:36:45,520 --> 00:36:47,680
Speaker 3: not made that you know, mistick again.

753
00:36:47,719 --> 00:36:52,080
Speaker 4: You actually have lovely confirmation. Yeah, that she is now remarried.

754
00:36:52,480 --> 00:36:54,800
Speaker 4: I've been with this man for over twenty years.

755
00:36:54,800 --> 00:36:58,480
Speaker 3: Incredible. Sometimes we make some mistakes when we're young, and

756
00:36:59,120 --> 00:37:01,880
Speaker 3: I love that you've you found happiness in your life.

757
00:37:02,000 --> 00:37:04,720
Speaker 3: After that, it gets better, gets better. It's better.

758
00:37:04,920 --> 00:37:09,040
Speaker 4: He adopted my oldest son, our son's request after he

759
00:37:09,080 --> 00:37:11,680
Speaker 4: turned eighteen, and didn't have to have permission to do

760
00:37:11,719 --> 00:37:14,880
Speaker 4: it from the ex Ah. I have two reasons that

761
00:37:14,960 --> 00:37:17,240
Speaker 4: I will never say. I wish I would have walked

762
00:37:17,239 --> 00:37:20,240
Speaker 4: away from the church that day, and they are my sons.

763
00:37:21,440 --> 00:37:23,960
Speaker 4: I always say it was my dress rehearsal, and now

764
00:37:24,000 --> 00:37:26,920
Speaker 4: I know what to look for and not to look for.

765
00:37:27,200 --> 00:37:29,759
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a great point sometimes. I mean, like, you

766
00:37:29,840 --> 00:37:32,680
Speaker 3: never want to go through those really hard things in

767
00:37:32,719 --> 00:37:35,839
Speaker 3: your life, but if you do, you want to make

768
00:37:35,880 --> 00:37:38,040
Speaker 3: sure that you pay attention to what you've learned from them,

769
00:37:38,320 --> 00:37:39,319
Speaker 3: and it seems like you did.

770
00:37:40,000 --> 00:37:42,239
Speaker 4: I should be thankful for the life lessons that he

771
00:37:42,280 --> 00:37:44,840
Speaker 4: taught me, but I think there should have been.

772
00:37:44,760 --> 00:37:46,040
Speaker 3: A better way to learn those.

773
00:37:46,600 --> 00:37:48,680
Speaker 4: I'm just grateful that I found the man i'm married

774
00:37:48,719 --> 00:37:50,640
Speaker 4: to now and the family that we have.

775
00:37:53,360 --> 00:37:56,480
Speaker 1: Hey, it's Dakota, your favorite brain host here, and we're

776
00:37:56,480 --> 00:37:58,239
Speaker 1: gonna get back to the stories soon.

777
00:37:58,360 --> 00:38:00,680
Speaker 2: But here's three minutes of ads from our spot answers.

778
00:38:01,120 --> 00:38:04,480
Speaker 3: My sister slept with my kid's father. Now she wants

779
00:38:04,520 --> 00:38:05,320
Speaker 3: my sympathy.

780
00:38:05,600 --> 00:38:08,040
Speaker 5: Oh no, no, no, not cool.

781
00:38:08,120 --> 00:38:11,680
Speaker 3: Sis I twenty seven female have three children with my

782
00:38:11,840 --> 00:38:15,680
Speaker 3: now ex KHN twenty nine male. Ten months ago, my

783
00:38:15,760 --> 00:38:18,680
Speaker 3: sister twenty six female confessed that she and Con had

784
00:38:18,719 --> 00:38:22,960
Speaker 3: slept together the week before, and she said she regretted

785
00:38:22,960 --> 00:38:27,480
Speaker 3: it and needed us to be okay, okay, yeah, sure.

786
00:38:27,640 --> 00:38:29,640
Speaker 3: She told me it was a mistake and she got

787
00:38:29,680 --> 00:38:31,800
Speaker 3: caught up in the moment because she had a crush

788
00:38:31,840 --> 00:38:34,040
Speaker 3: on Con and she needed me to not hate her

789
00:38:34,040 --> 00:38:36,839
Speaker 3: for it. By the way, this comes from Disastrous chapter

790
00:38:37,000 --> 00:38:39,000
Speaker 3: fifty seven, And if you want to smit your own stories,

791
00:38:39,040 --> 00:38:41,880
Speaker 3: go to the r slash Okay storytime separate it. I'm Sophia,

792
00:38:42,160 --> 00:38:42,720
Speaker 3: and I'm.

793
00:38:42,560 --> 00:38:44,839
Speaker 1: Savannah Hey, and I'm Keon, and we're here.

794
00:38:44,760 --> 00:38:46,560
Speaker 3: To give good advice. Goofy. But we don't have all

795
00:38:46,600 --> 00:38:49,279
Speaker 3: the answers. We only know what we'd do, So let

796
00:38:49,360 --> 00:38:51,000
Speaker 3: us know what you would do in the comments, and

797
00:38:51,120 --> 00:38:54,440
Speaker 3: OP says that she loved me and wanted us to

798
00:38:54,480 --> 00:38:57,400
Speaker 3: make things work. Con didn't even try to deny it.

799
00:38:57,719 --> 00:38:59,640
Speaker 3: You told me he'd been sleeping around for years and

800
00:38:59,640 --> 00:39:03,360
Speaker 3: that he's up with my sister more than once. Whoa, whoa,

801
00:39:04,040 --> 00:39:09,759
Speaker 3: So he's lying or she's lying. My sister denied it strongly. Honestly,

802
00:39:10,480 --> 00:39:13,840
Speaker 3: I think she's lying. Uh yeah, no, there's no way.

803
00:39:14,000 --> 00:39:17,000
Speaker 3: I don't think he has any like reason to lie

804
00:39:17,040 --> 00:39:17,839
Speaker 3: about it, and she.

805
00:39:17,960 --> 00:39:19,680
Speaker 5: Does, yeah, oh for sure.

806
00:39:19,800 --> 00:39:20,080
Speaker 3: Yeah.

807
00:39:20,239 --> 00:39:26,520
Speaker 5: He's like, well, yeah, this happened, sorry, and she's like, no, no, hey,

808
00:39:26,760 --> 00:39:27,640
Speaker 5: uh uh.

809
00:39:27,680 --> 00:39:30,719
Speaker 3: We talked about it. It only it only happened one time.

810
00:39:32,560 --> 00:39:35,200
Speaker 3: My sister denied it strongly. I broke up with him

811
00:39:35,239 --> 00:39:38,400
Speaker 3: immediately and told her to get lost. Whoa wait, you

812
00:39:38,480 --> 00:39:40,279
Speaker 3: all were still together at the time.

813
00:39:41,000 --> 00:39:43,279
Speaker 5: Oh oh, now X.

814
00:39:43,480 --> 00:39:45,960
Speaker 3: I thought I had read that in my head as

815
00:39:46,320 --> 00:39:49,000
Speaker 3: X and was like, oh, yeah, that sucks, Like she's

816
00:39:49,080 --> 00:39:52,040
Speaker 3: terrible for sleeping your eggs. She's like, with your current partner,

817
00:39:52,760 --> 00:39:58,040
Speaker 3: that's makes it a huge, bigger issue. Dang.

818
00:39:58,440 --> 00:39:59,839
Speaker 5: Oh no, no, I.

819
00:39:59,760 --> 00:40:01,719
Speaker 3: Said, but I never wanted to see her again, and

820
00:40:01,760 --> 00:40:05,799
Speaker 3: that she disgusted and repulsed me, and I didn't care

821
00:40:05,880 --> 00:40:08,719
Speaker 3: how bad she felt. I wanted her to feel bad.

822
00:40:09,120 --> 00:40:11,439
Speaker 3: I wanted her to hurt, and she would never hurt

823
00:40:11,440 --> 00:40:14,319
Speaker 3: as much as I was right then, so forget about me.

824
00:40:15,960 --> 00:40:18,120
Speaker 3: I got checked after I broke up with Cohn to

825
00:40:18,160 --> 00:40:20,360
Speaker 3: make sure he didn't give me anything. With all the cheating.

826
00:40:20,920 --> 00:40:24,040
Speaker 3: I was negative for all STDs, and I'm incredibly thankful

827
00:40:24,080 --> 00:40:26,359
Speaker 3: for that. With the amount of cheating he talked about,

828
00:40:26,440 --> 00:40:29,520
Speaker 3: I'm still surprised I didn't catch anything. She ended up

829
00:40:29,600 --> 00:40:32,640
Speaker 3: dating Con because I rejected her, or that was the

830
00:40:32,680 --> 00:40:35,560
Speaker 3: story she told others. She said she felt guilty and

831
00:40:35,600 --> 00:40:38,560
Speaker 3: needed some good to come from this because clearly I

832
00:40:38,600 --> 00:40:41,000
Speaker 3: would never give her the time of day again. And

833
00:40:41,080 --> 00:40:43,759
Speaker 3: that's true. I swore to myself that I would not

834
00:40:44,120 --> 00:40:47,520
Speaker 3: forgive her. Even through therapy, I had become more secure

835
00:40:47,520 --> 00:40:50,879
Speaker 3: in the belief that what she did broke our relationship

836
00:40:50,920 --> 00:40:53,839
Speaker 3: beyond repair. And regardless of whether it was one time,

837
00:40:53,840 --> 00:40:56,640
Speaker 3: which I don't believe, or a full affair, it was

838
00:40:56,680 --> 00:40:59,640
Speaker 3: wrong and will never come back from it. I really

839
00:40:59,680 --> 00:41:02,040
Speaker 3: don't care what happens to her, and if she passes

840
00:41:02,080 --> 00:41:04,840
Speaker 3: away tomorrow, I would not grieve or make an appearance

841
00:41:04,880 --> 00:41:07,960
Speaker 3: at her funeral. Recently, my sister found out Con had

842
00:41:08,120 --> 00:41:11,239
Speaker 3: cheated on her, and he didn't only cheat, but he

843
00:41:11,360 --> 00:41:15,839
Speaker 3: passed along some STDs and STIs, which I mean, you're

844
00:41:15,880 --> 00:41:19,200
Speaker 3: going to the I don't know pet store and you're

845
00:41:19,560 --> 00:41:20,680
Speaker 3: surprised that they have fish.

846
00:41:22,600 --> 00:41:26,040
Speaker 6: I mean, I don't know about that analogy that wouldn't

847
00:41:26,200 --> 00:41:26,520
Speaker 6: I don't know.

848
00:41:26,520 --> 00:41:27,279
Speaker 3: I couldn't think of what.

849
00:41:27,360 --> 00:41:29,359
Speaker 1: I was just say, what goes around comes around kind

850
00:41:29,400 --> 00:41:29,640
Speaker 1: of thing.

851
00:41:29,760 --> 00:41:33,680
Speaker 3: Well, waite, she's going to the best store con and

852
00:41:33,760 --> 00:41:35,959
Speaker 3: she's surprised that there are STDs there.

853
00:41:36,560 --> 00:41:39,880
Speaker 5: Yeah, well wait wait.

854
00:41:39,680 --> 00:41:40,240
Speaker 3: You knew.

855
00:41:42,920 --> 00:41:45,360
Speaker 1: This is the only guy on the planet apparently.

856
00:41:45,600 --> 00:41:48,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, She's like, well, I had to do it. I

857
00:41:48,440 --> 00:41:50,239
Speaker 3: had to there was no way around him.

858
00:41:50,600 --> 00:41:52,640
Speaker 5: Yeah, doesn't that make sense? I love that.

859
00:41:52,920 --> 00:41:55,040
Speaker 3: I believe she's also waiting to make sure he didn't

860
00:41:55,080 --> 00:41:58,279
Speaker 3: give her HIV, although I can't say I paid enough

861
00:41:58,280 --> 00:42:00,719
Speaker 3: attention to know if that was a big concern or

862
00:42:00,800 --> 00:42:04,000
Speaker 3: just them being cautious. But she thought that experience would

863
00:42:04,040 --> 00:42:07,280
Speaker 3: make me more forgiving of her. Why she was wrong.

864
00:42:07,680 --> 00:42:09,600
Speaker 3: She showed up at my place and I shut the

865
00:42:09,640 --> 00:42:12,319
Speaker 3: door in her face without saying a word. She showed

866
00:42:12,440 --> 00:42:14,800
Speaker 3: up at our brother's house while I was heading inside,

867
00:42:14,880 --> 00:42:17,160
Speaker 3: and he shoot her. But she told me how sorry

868
00:42:17,280 --> 00:42:19,480
Speaker 3: she was again and how scared she was, and how

869
00:42:19,560 --> 00:42:24,520
Speaker 3: much she needed me tough. That sucks. I ignored her

870
00:42:24,560 --> 00:42:27,520
Speaker 3: and kept going, and our brother told her she wasn't welcome.

871
00:42:28,360 --> 00:42:31,600
Speaker 3: She tried again, and this time I did respond. I

872
00:42:31,640 --> 00:42:34,560
Speaker 3: told her I do not care, and if anything, she

873
00:42:34,640 --> 00:42:37,600
Speaker 3: deserves everything she got. After what she did and how

874
00:42:37,680 --> 00:42:40,279
Speaker 3: stupid she was. In the end, she told me she

875
00:42:40,400 --> 00:42:44,080
Speaker 3: needed me and that she was scared that thing. When

876
00:42:44,120 --> 00:42:48,080
Speaker 3: you burn your support system, they're not there when you

877
00:42:48,120 --> 00:42:49,000
Speaker 3: need them to support you.

878
00:42:49,239 --> 00:42:51,680
Speaker 6: She literally said, I'm scared of touching the fire, but

879
00:42:51,800 --> 00:42:52,720
Speaker 6: let me touch the fire.

880
00:42:52,920 --> 00:42:57,799
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's it sucks. Like I've you know, I've had

881
00:42:57,840 --> 00:43:00,960
Speaker 3: friends who have gone through this. I've had friends tell

882
00:43:01,000 --> 00:43:05,160
Speaker 3: me about you know, their friends, their relationships that have

883
00:43:05,200 --> 00:43:10,359
Speaker 3: gone through this. Of these people pushing everyone away and

884
00:43:10,400 --> 00:43:14,080
Speaker 3: then you know, being in a very difficult position, being

885
00:43:14,120 --> 00:43:17,200
Speaker 3: in a very dark place and not having anyone near them.

886
00:43:17,320 --> 00:43:21,280
Speaker 5: It's just the fact of like those people don't think

887
00:43:21,360 --> 00:43:25,239
Speaker 5: about anyone else in that situation. They're like, oh, like

888
00:43:25,960 --> 00:43:27,960
Speaker 5: I really want to do this, Like I'm not going

889
00:43:28,040 --> 00:43:30,160
Speaker 5: to think about anyone else. I'm going to be selfish

890
00:43:30,200 --> 00:43:34,960
Speaker 5: and think about just me, even though like like this

891
00:43:35,000 --> 00:43:37,000
Speaker 5: is not going to just affect me, It's going to

892
00:43:37,040 --> 00:43:40,440
Speaker 5: affect everyone around me, completing my relationship with my sister

893
00:43:40,480 --> 00:43:43,879
Speaker 5: who I want a relationship with. Like, it's just it's

894
00:43:43,960 --> 00:43:47,319
Speaker 5: those people who just do not think and then they're like,

895
00:43:47,480 --> 00:43:50,280
Speaker 5: oh my god, I'm sorry, you know, blah blah, blah.

896
00:43:50,320 --> 00:43:53,279
Speaker 5: One thing to do it like under the influence of something, yes,

897
00:43:53,320 --> 00:43:57,080
Speaker 5: but it's another thing to do it completely sober and constantly.

898
00:43:58,600 --> 00:44:01,360
Speaker 1: But also she's like, but I feel bad for it.

899
00:44:01,280 --> 00:44:04,160
Speaker 3: Because you have to be okay.

900
00:44:04,560 --> 00:44:07,880
Speaker 5: Yeah, Like that's just like not okay in any.

901
00:44:07,640 --> 00:44:11,360
Speaker 3: Situation, oh at all. Yeah, I told her, just like

902
00:44:11,400 --> 00:44:13,480
Speaker 3: when I found out my partner of eight years and

903
00:44:13,680 --> 00:44:16,960
Speaker 3: father of my children was cheating on me, and I

904
00:44:16,960 --> 00:44:19,719
Speaker 3: could have used my sister, only she betrayed me as

905
00:44:19,719 --> 00:44:22,479
Speaker 3: well by cheating with him. She said it was one

906
00:44:22,600 --> 00:44:24,560
Speaker 3: time and she would have been there for me, and

907
00:44:24,600 --> 00:44:27,040
Speaker 3: I told her I didn't want her disgusting self to

908
00:44:27,040 --> 00:44:31,160
Speaker 3: touch me, because I said that's how I saw her now,

909
00:44:31,840 --> 00:44:35,160
Speaker 3: a disgusting backstabber. I told her, I don't care if

910
00:44:35,160 --> 00:44:37,799
Speaker 3: he's given her every std under the sun, because I

911
00:44:37,840 --> 00:44:40,160
Speaker 3: want nothing more to do with her, and she can

912
00:44:41,080 --> 00:44:43,680
Speaker 3: disappear in a hole for all I care. I haven't

913
00:44:43,719 --> 00:44:47,480
Speaker 3: seen her since. Apparently she's very distraught, and she's also

914
00:44:47,520 --> 00:44:50,759
Speaker 3: the topic of gossip in our social circles. She lost

915
00:44:50,840 --> 00:44:52,960
Speaker 3: most of our shared friends and a few have shared

916
00:44:52,960 --> 00:44:55,400
Speaker 3: a similar sentiment to me on her, but a couple

917
00:44:55,400 --> 00:44:57,360
Speaker 3: have asked me if I don't even feel a little

918
00:44:57,400 --> 00:45:00,600
Speaker 3: bad for being so cruel to her and turning her

919
00:45:00,640 --> 00:45:04,200
Speaker 3: away a second time, even after all her apologies. None

920
00:45:04,239 --> 00:45:07,719
Speaker 3: of her apologies mean anything though. That's the thing. It's

921
00:45:07,800 --> 00:45:10,920
Speaker 3: so hard to parse through what a real apology is

922
00:45:11,800 --> 00:45:16,480
Speaker 3: when it is accompanied by request, by a need, by desperation,

923
00:45:17,120 --> 00:45:21,040
Speaker 3: because it doesn't feel like an apology exactly. They said

924
00:45:21,080 --> 00:45:22,960
Speaker 3: they felt like I should have found a way to

925
00:45:23,000 --> 00:45:25,000
Speaker 3: work through this because we were close for such a

926
00:45:25,040 --> 00:45:28,440
Speaker 3: long time and sisters are for life or whatever. Stupid

927
00:45:28,440 --> 00:45:31,799
Speaker 3: craft they said. I don't feel guilty. I don't even

928
00:45:31,880 --> 00:45:34,360
Speaker 3: feel bad for her or have any kind of empathy.

929
00:45:34,880 --> 00:45:37,520
Speaker 3: Am I the a whole? And there are some comments

930
00:45:39,280 --> 00:45:42,160
Speaker 3: which we will read in a moment, But do you

931
00:45:42,160 --> 00:45:43,160
Speaker 3: have any other thoughts?

932
00:45:43,600 --> 00:45:47,600
Speaker 5: I mean, I just I hate that this is like

933
00:45:47,640 --> 00:45:50,720
Speaker 5: a thing that people do, yeah, and they just don't

934
00:45:51,200 --> 00:45:54,080
Speaker 5: like think in the moment and they're like, oh, well,

935
00:45:54,200 --> 00:45:58,719
Speaker 5: I like, you know, I like this person and I

936
00:45:58,760 --> 00:46:00,000
Speaker 5: don't care. Yeah.

937
00:46:00,280 --> 00:46:03,439
Speaker 3: Like, But the thing is, unless you are heavily under

938
00:46:03,480 --> 00:46:07,520
Speaker 3: the influence, I almost never believe that they didn't think

939
00:46:07,520 --> 00:46:10,920
Speaker 3: about that person, you know, Like, I just I find

940
00:46:10,960 --> 00:46:15,080
Speaker 3: it so hard to believe even when you are a

941
00:46:15,080 --> 00:46:18,000
Speaker 3: little bit under the influence that the thought didn't cross

942
00:46:18,040 --> 00:46:21,759
Speaker 3: your mind to be like, there's going to be consequences,

943
00:46:21,800 --> 00:46:24,880
Speaker 3: You're not this is going to upset. Yeah, she was

944
00:46:25,000 --> 00:46:29,480
Speaker 3: likely banging him for ages, says Comment one. She doesn't

945
00:46:29,520 --> 00:46:31,440
Speaker 3: care enough about you nor your kids not to be

946
00:46:31,520 --> 00:46:33,840
Speaker 3: with one of the many women he cheated with. Karme's

947
00:46:33,840 --> 00:46:36,680
Speaker 3: a witch, Opie says, that's what I think. She still

948
00:46:36,680 --> 00:46:39,399
Speaker 3: swears it was once, but even once is one too

949
00:46:39,400 --> 00:46:43,359
Speaker 3: many times true. That's why, says another comment. She fed

950
00:46:43,400 --> 00:46:46,520
Speaker 3: your husband then told you the two of you needed

951
00:46:46,560 --> 00:46:50,320
Speaker 3: to be okay, Opie says she did. She kept saying

952
00:46:50,480 --> 00:46:52,799
Speaker 3: she needed us to be okay, She needed me not

953
00:46:52,960 --> 00:46:56,160
Speaker 3: to hate her, making it all about herself while she

954
00:46:56,320 --> 00:46:59,480
Speaker 3: was tearing my whole world apart. Common three says, the

955
00:46:59,480 --> 00:47:01,720
Speaker 3: father of your kids cheated on you with your sister

956
00:47:01,880 --> 00:47:05,680
Speaker 3: and multiple other people. Your sister should have seen it coming.

957
00:47:06,120 --> 00:47:09,239
Speaker 3: That man clearly sounds like he'd never even consider being

958
00:47:09,239 --> 00:47:13,040
Speaker 3: loyal to anyone, so your sister was stupid and entitled

959
00:47:13,040 --> 00:47:16,440
Speaker 3: to think that she'd be the one he won't cheat on. Also,

960
00:47:16,480 --> 00:47:18,160
Speaker 3: why the heck would your sister think that you would

961
00:47:18,200 --> 00:47:21,040
Speaker 3: forgive her for sleeping with your then partner just because

962
00:47:21,080 --> 00:47:24,000
Speaker 3: she's scared and in need of you. Not the ale.

963
00:47:24,760 --> 00:47:26,879
Speaker 3: Opie says she was hoping I still had some love

964
00:47:27,000 --> 00:47:29,920
Speaker 3: left for her, but she crushed that. Maybe she was

965
00:47:29,960 --> 00:47:33,000
Speaker 3: also hoping the sympathy card would come into play. Does

966
00:47:33,080 --> 00:47:34,560
Speaker 3: everyone have any thoughts?

967
00:47:34,640 --> 00:47:34,960
Speaker 6: I don't know.

968
00:47:34,960 --> 00:47:36,200
Speaker 1: Donut sounds like she don't.

969
00:47:36,520 --> 00:47:38,879
Speaker 3: She's got thoughts all right. Got She's like, don't ever

970
00:47:38,920 --> 00:47:43,920
Speaker 3: talk to your sister again. She's nasty. She's a nasty lady.

971
00:47:44,120 --> 00:47:47,000
Speaker 3: That's what Jonah says. He's a master girl. Comment for

972
00:47:47,560 --> 00:47:49,200
Speaker 3: I would have cut her off and never talked to

973
00:47:49,239 --> 00:47:52,080
Speaker 3: her again. Uh, Opie says, I did it when I

974
00:47:52,080 --> 00:47:54,560
Speaker 3: found out. Only reason I said anything was she kept

975
00:47:54,560 --> 00:47:56,560
Speaker 3: showing up and I had hoped and seemed to be

976
00:47:56,640 --> 00:48:01,040
Speaker 3: right that it would stop her. Which finger crossed. She

977
00:48:01,200 --> 00:48:05,240
Speaker 3: stays away. Now in five says accident. Did you trip

978
00:48:05,320 --> 00:48:10,200
Speaker 3: and fall onto his stuff? Op He says, don't you

979
00:48:10,280 --> 00:48:13,200
Speaker 3: just hate it when that happens? And that's the end

980
00:48:13,280 --> 00:48:18,000
Speaker 3: of that story. Folks hate when that happens. I just

981
00:48:18,040 --> 00:48:21,760
Speaker 3: hate when that happens. Ah, not a dang dang.

982
00:48:21,960 --> 00:48:23,640
Speaker 5: Yeah, it always strikes.

983
00:48:23,239 --> 00:48:26,399
Speaker 4: Again, and that's the end of this story. We're gonna

984
00:48:26,400 --> 00:48:27,200
Speaker 4: go to the next one.

985
00:48:28,120 --> 00:48:31,319
Speaker 5: My sister won a casino jackpot then used my name

986
00:48:31,480 --> 00:48:32,080
Speaker 5: to claim it.

987
00:48:32,360 --> 00:48:33,600
Speaker 3: I guess that's my money.

988
00:48:33,760 --> 00:48:35,880
Speaker 5: My sister and brother in law like to go to

989
00:48:35,920 --> 00:48:39,440
Speaker 5: the casino same girl, and they also like to drag

990
00:48:39,520 --> 00:48:42,440
Speaker 5: anyone they can into their messes, so I don't f

991
00:48:42,560 --> 00:48:45,799
Speaker 5: with them. She went a large amount of money at

992
00:48:45,800 --> 00:48:48,319
Speaker 5: the slots, and for some reason that I don't want

993
00:48:48,360 --> 00:48:51,680
Speaker 5: to know, she told them she was me. The casino's

994
00:48:51,719 --> 00:48:54,719
Speaker 5: payout policy for the amount she won is for it

995
00:48:54,760 --> 00:48:59,280
Speaker 5: to occur during business hours. By the way, this comes

996
00:48:59,320 --> 00:49:02,080
Speaker 5: from pay to Lumier. And if you want to submit

997
00:49:02,120 --> 00:49:05,000
Speaker 5: your own stories, go to the r slash Okay storytime subreddit.

998
00:49:05,080 --> 00:49:08,200
Speaker 5: I am Savannah, I'm Sophia, I'm Keon, and we are

999
00:49:08,200 --> 00:49:10,319
Speaker 5: here to give some good advice goofully, but we don't

1000
00:49:10,360 --> 00:49:12,799
Speaker 5: have all the answers. We only would tell you what

1001
00:49:12,840 --> 00:49:14,640
Speaker 5: we would do in this situation, but we would love

1002
00:49:14,680 --> 00:49:16,520
Speaker 5: to know what you would do in the comments.

1003
00:49:16,960 --> 00:49:19,359
Speaker 3: As Opie says, she knows.

1004
00:49:19,120 --> 00:49:21,680
Speaker 5: I won't go anywhere with her, so she couldn't llure

1005
00:49:21,719 --> 00:49:24,439
Speaker 5: me to the casino. She came clean and said she'd

1006
00:49:24,480 --> 00:49:27,080
Speaker 5: give me a few thousand for helping whoa how much

1007
00:49:27,280 --> 00:49:28,040
Speaker 5: she would ah.

1008
00:49:29,239 --> 00:49:32,400
Speaker 3: Oh, She's like, so I won twenty thousand dollars in

1009
00:49:32,440 --> 00:49:36,840
Speaker 3: your name, so I'll give you like three hundred dollars.

1010
00:49:37,160 --> 00:49:39,520
Speaker 5: I'll give you like two thousand for let me know

1011
00:49:39,560 --> 00:49:40,160
Speaker 5: you use your name.

1012
00:49:41,080 --> 00:49:43,799
Speaker 3: I'm committing Fred in your name, but I'll pay you

1013
00:49:43,800 --> 00:49:45,040
Speaker 3: two thousand dollars.

1014
00:49:45,680 --> 00:49:49,560
Speaker 5: She always thinks enough money will motivate anyone. I told

1015
00:49:49,560 --> 00:49:52,200
Speaker 5: her no and hung up the phone. I don't want

1016
00:49:52,200 --> 00:49:54,759
Speaker 5: to be a part of any of that. Now she's

1017
00:49:54,800 --> 00:49:57,920
Speaker 5: got the rest of the family up my butt because money.

1018
00:49:58,840 --> 00:50:00,920
Speaker 5: Both of our brothers yelled at me for not getting

1019
00:50:00,960 --> 00:50:03,000
Speaker 5: over myself enough to help her out.

1020
00:50:03,040 --> 00:50:03,800
Speaker 3: This one time.

1021
00:50:04,560 --> 00:50:06,240
Speaker 5: I'm thinking she offered.

1022
00:50:05,840 --> 00:50:08,720
Speaker 3: Them some money to share. They all get Yeah. She's like, Okay,

1023
00:50:08,760 --> 00:50:11,239
Speaker 3: if you let me do Frogs in your name, I'll

1024
00:50:11,239 --> 00:50:12,880
Speaker 3: give you two thousand dollars. And then she goes to

1025
00:50:13,000 --> 00:50:15,560
Speaker 3: her brother and she's like, if you consist, if you can,

1026
00:50:15,920 --> 00:50:19,239
Speaker 3: if you convince this convinced sister to let me do

1027
00:50:19,360 --> 00:50:23,920
Speaker 3: Fred and her name, I'll give you one thousand dollars.

1028
00:50:24,239 --> 00:50:28,360
Speaker 3: And she just keeps going down leave its. You just

1029
00:50:28,400 --> 00:50:29,279
Speaker 3: have to convince her.

1030
00:50:29,600 --> 00:50:33,880
Speaker 5: But whatever her messed up name is not my problem.

1031
00:50:34,400 --> 00:50:37,080
Speaker 5: She's been hatching plans all her life and I got

1032
00:50:37,160 --> 00:50:41,160
Speaker 5: dragged into them by default. Our father favored her because

1033
00:50:41,200 --> 00:50:44,960
Speaker 5: she's the baby and made me responsible for her because

1034
00:50:44,960 --> 00:50:47,640
Speaker 5: that's your sister. Her trouble is your trouble.

1035
00:50:47,840 --> 00:50:49,080
Speaker 3: Whoa fye.

1036
00:50:49,239 --> 00:50:51,840
Speaker 5: I don't agree with that. I walked away when I

1037
00:50:51,880 --> 00:50:55,000
Speaker 5: became an adult, even if I did get along with her.

1038
00:50:55,280 --> 00:50:58,480
Speaker 5: I don't go to casinos in the thought of shenanigans

1039
00:50:58,480 --> 00:50:58,879
Speaker 5: with them.

1040
00:50:59,400 --> 00:51:00,480
Speaker 3: No, ma'am, Pam.

1041
00:51:00,960 --> 00:51:03,839
Speaker 5: Does me being a goodie two shoes make me an

1042
00:51:03,880 --> 00:51:07,120
Speaker 5: a hole? The verdict is not the a hole. But

1043
00:51:07,160 --> 00:51:10,160
Speaker 5: we do have some comments. Do we want to discuss?

1044
00:51:11,520 --> 00:51:14,560
Speaker 3: No, I think. I mean, like, I've seen some people

1045
00:51:14,600 --> 00:51:18,120
Speaker 3: who are like, yeah, take the you know, go claim

1046
00:51:18,160 --> 00:51:21,080
Speaker 3: the prize since it's in your name. I honestly think

1047
00:51:21,280 --> 00:51:23,840
Speaker 3: the smartest thing is to not get involved because you

1048
00:51:23,880 --> 00:51:27,520
Speaker 3: don't know what she's trying to do with I mean, like,

1049
00:51:28,360 --> 00:51:29,759
Speaker 3: on the one hand, you could, if you want to

1050
00:51:29,760 --> 00:51:31,319
Speaker 3: get to get off your back, you can threaten her

1051
00:51:31,880 --> 00:51:35,880
Speaker 3: and be like, I'm gonna, you know, file a police

1052
00:51:35,920 --> 00:51:40,839
Speaker 3: report for identity theft if you just wanted to get

1053
00:51:40,880 --> 00:51:43,359
Speaker 3: off your back. But yeah, I would not, I would

1054
00:51:43,440 --> 00:51:44,200
Speaker 3: not be involved.

1055
00:51:44,680 --> 00:51:48,279
Speaker 5: Comment number one, not the a hole. If it was

1056
00:51:48,320 --> 00:51:50,960
Speaker 5: above board for her to use her name, she would

1057
00:51:51,000 --> 00:51:53,560
Speaker 5: have instead of using your name. Does she just not

1058
00:51:54,320 --> 00:51:57,880
Speaker 5: like her name or something? Oh, Key responds, it's mud.

1059
00:51:58,520 --> 00:52:00,759
Speaker 5: She's got in a lot of trouble and she was young.

1060
00:52:00,880 --> 00:52:05,040
Speaker 5: From all her schemes. She supposedly cleaned her life up,

1061
00:52:05,080 --> 00:52:06,480
Speaker 5: but I still kept my distance.

1062
00:52:06,600 --> 00:52:10,319
Speaker 3: Alice schemes. Ah, you know, you know cis in the

1063
00:52:10,440 --> 00:52:14,960
Speaker 3: in the in the big boys, always making trouble around town.

1064
00:52:15,880 --> 00:52:18,280
Speaker 5: Always always scheming.

1065
00:52:19,640 --> 00:52:23,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, she she always, she always smokes a cigar and says,

1066
00:52:23,640 --> 00:52:26,400
Speaker 3: all right, big boys trouble. We're gonna get up to

1067
00:52:26,480 --> 00:52:29,640
Speaker 3: around town walking, hey.

1068
00:52:30,160 --> 00:52:35,160
Speaker 1: Walking into today tax evasion that one in a while.

1069
00:52:35,280 --> 00:52:39,800
Speaker 3: Wait to take the biggest casino heist ever in the

1070
00:52:40,120 --> 00:52:43,880
Speaker 3: in the history of casino heights taxes her.

1071
00:52:47,600 --> 00:52:50,280
Speaker 5: I'm glad I did, because this stunt proof she hasn't

1072
00:52:50,320 --> 00:52:55,200
Speaker 5: really changed. Momento two says, change your name so they

1073
00:52:55,320 --> 00:52:56,080
Speaker 5: can't f with.

1074
00:52:56,160 --> 00:52:56,759
Speaker 6: You no more.

1075
00:52:56,960 --> 00:52:58,520
Speaker 1: Wait, that sounds like a little bit too.

1076
00:53:00,280 --> 00:53:00,719
Speaker 3: Whole name.

1077
00:53:01,000 --> 00:53:02,200
Speaker 5: Yeah, change your name.

1078
00:53:02,320 --> 00:53:06,480
Speaker 3: I couldn't possibly continue my life knowing I'm connected to

1079
00:53:07,400 --> 00:53:08,560
Speaker 3: Sisten the big boys.

1080
00:53:09,680 --> 00:53:13,279
Speaker 5: God knows what else she's used your name for. That's

1081
00:53:13,440 --> 00:53:16,680
Speaker 5: identity theft. Or better yet, go claim the winnings and

1082
00:53:16,800 --> 00:53:22,840
Speaker 5: don't give to them. You could donate Johnny the money instead.

1083
00:53:23,840 --> 00:53:27,000
Speaker 5: Opie responds, She's the reason I keep my credit report locked.

1084
00:53:27,600 --> 00:53:30,680
Speaker 5: She's gave my names to cops when she was caught

1085
00:53:30,719 --> 00:53:32,000
Speaker 5: in the park after hours.

1086
00:53:32,080 --> 00:53:33,839
Speaker 3: That's crazy, that's messed up.

1087
00:53:34,960 --> 00:53:37,560
Speaker 5: She had an outstanding warrant on her for not showing

1088
00:53:37,680 --> 00:53:39,640
Speaker 5: up for a court date this twenty years ago.

1089
00:53:40,080 --> 00:53:41,200
Speaker 3: But I never forgot it.

1090
00:53:42,680 --> 00:53:46,120
Speaker 5: Comment to three, and not to the A hole, I'd

1091
00:53:46,160 --> 00:53:49,200
Speaker 5: be reporting the attempted fraud to the casino. Your name

1092
00:53:49,320 --> 00:53:51,960
Speaker 5: is currently on their books. Opie says, good point. I

1093
00:53:52,040 --> 00:53:55,520
Speaker 5: hadn't thought it that. Comenter four, check your credit, buy

1094
00:53:55,760 --> 00:53:59,200
Speaker 5: police reports, lock your credit through though, with a sister

1095
00:53:59,480 --> 00:54:02,680
Speaker 5: like that, you've probably done all this already, opre response.

1096
00:54:02,760 --> 00:54:07,200
Speaker 5: I protected myself years ago. This question is why don't

1097
00:54:07,239 --> 00:54:11,160
Speaker 5: Opie's father deal with this since her sister is his favorite,

1098
00:54:11,480 --> 00:54:13,120
Speaker 5: Opie said, he passed away years ago.

1099
00:54:13,360 --> 00:54:15,680
Speaker 3: Well, that would do it, That would do it. You

1100
00:54:15,760 --> 00:54:18,200
Speaker 3: know what that checks, SiZ, isn't your father doing anything?

1101
00:54:18,320 --> 00:54:22,439
Speaker 5: Well, well he's no longer living, So she gets a pass.

1102
00:54:22,840 --> 00:54:25,359
Speaker 5: He gets that just this one time, just one time,

1103
00:54:26,960 --> 00:54:30,359
Speaker 5: I'll let him off anyway. Commenter five says, OPI could

1104
00:54:30,400 --> 00:54:32,960
Speaker 5: go and claim the money. They will usually take out

1105
00:54:33,000 --> 00:54:36,120
Speaker 5: federal and state taxes here in PA. But you can

1106
00:54:36,200 --> 00:54:39,160
Speaker 5: tell how much you wish to have withheld for taxes.

1107
00:54:39,520 --> 00:54:41,680
Speaker 5: Have fifty percent of the winnings withheld, and then when

1108
00:54:41,760 --> 00:54:44,480
Speaker 5: you file your own taxes, you will get a bigger refund,

1109
00:54:44,880 --> 00:54:48,080
Speaker 5: thus collecting whatever sister wants to give you, and a

1110
00:54:48,160 --> 00:54:51,920
Speaker 5: bonus at tax time. Having said that Sis has a

1111
00:54:52,000 --> 00:54:55,160
Speaker 5: problem with gambling, been banned, and is doing something in

1112
00:54:55,239 --> 00:54:59,680
Speaker 5: a fraudulent manner, don't get involved, Opie responds.

1113
00:54:59,440 --> 00:55:02,040
Speaker 3: I'm not touching that money, no way.

1114
00:55:03,400 --> 00:55:06,000
Speaker 5: I'm a to six, not the a hole. But why

1115
00:55:06,080 --> 00:55:08,759
Speaker 5: would you claim the whole money for yourself? That's pretty dumb,

1116
00:55:08,920 --> 00:55:11,600
Speaker 5: op says, because I didn't win it full stop. For

1117
00:55:11,760 --> 00:55:15,719
Speaker 5: me to claim it would be dishonest, and that ish

1118
00:55:15,960 --> 00:55:18,239
Speaker 5: comes back to you. I've never stepped foot in that

1119
00:55:18,280 --> 00:55:20,680
Speaker 5: casino except for when I went to clear all this up.

1120
00:55:21,400 --> 00:55:23,839
Speaker 5: Keep thinking like that and you'll f your name up

1121
00:55:24,000 --> 00:55:25,560
Speaker 5: like my sister fed hers up.

1122
00:55:25,640 --> 00:55:31,640
Speaker 3: Okay, all right, wow, the cool dar you dare you

1123
00:55:31,800 --> 00:55:34,279
Speaker 3: say that debate. You keep saying this, You're going to.

1124
00:55:34,280 --> 00:55:37,560
Speaker 5: Get pops on comment to number seven, not the ahole.

1125
00:55:38,080 --> 00:55:40,480
Speaker 5: Even if you lived in a jurisdiction where gambling wins

1126
00:55:40,880 --> 00:55:45,200
Speaker 5: such as this were not considered income, you were within

1127
00:55:45,280 --> 00:55:48,359
Speaker 5: your rights to tell her to pound sand. Even if

1128
00:55:48,480 --> 00:55:51,400
Speaker 5: nothing else illegal has been done by her, there is

1129
00:55:51,520 --> 00:55:56,240
Speaker 5: nothing yet stopping her from committing ID theft and fraud.

1130
00:55:56,360 --> 00:55:59,320
Speaker 5: If you haven't yet done so, contact the credit bureaus

1131
00:55:59,760 --> 00:56:03,120
Speaker 5: and let them know that you've had reports of someone

1132
00:56:03,200 --> 00:56:06,160
Speaker 5: pretending to be you. Also, if she has ever had

1133
00:56:06,200 --> 00:56:08,840
Speaker 5: any access to your phone, computer, et cetera, change your

1134
00:56:08,880 --> 00:56:13,840
Speaker 5: passwords and baking account logins a sap put ohp response,

1135
00:56:14,200 --> 00:56:18,360
Speaker 5: she did social engineering before the Internet. We're a Janet.

1136
00:56:18,480 --> 00:56:25,040
Speaker 3: I freaking knew it. A sixty five year old right there? Wow? No, man, Pam, no, man, Pam,

1137
00:56:25,440 --> 00:56:28,399
Speaker 3: Go what is it? Beat sand? Yeah?

1138
00:56:28,560 --> 00:56:29,399
Speaker 5: Go pound sand.

1139
00:56:29,719 --> 00:56:34,239
Speaker 3: Yeah, she's probably like probably sixty two. I love that. Yeah.

1140
00:56:35,040 --> 00:56:35,360
Speaker 3: Uh so.

1141
00:56:35,560 --> 00:56:38,600
Speaker 5: I learned years ago not to let her have access

1142
00:56:38,640 --> 00:56:40,800
Speaker 5: to any of my things. And I had my credit

1143
00:56:40,840 --> 00:56:45,880
Speaker 5: file on Locke old school, early nineties, even had passwords

1144
00:56:45,960 --> 00:56:49,640
Speaker 5: at the call centers. That just protected me financially. It

1145
00:56:49,760 --> 00:56:51,840
Speaker 5: did nothing to stop her from telling the cops she

1146
00:56:52,120 --> 00:56:56,160
Speaker 5: was me when she got stopped with outstanding warrants or

1147
00:56:56,280 --> 00:57:00,319
Speaker 5: using my expired IDs to gain access to clubs while

1148
00:57:00,520 --> 00:57:03,319
Speaker 5: she was under age. We're in our late forties now.

1149
00:57:04,280 --> 00:57:05,360
Speaker 5: I stay vigilant.

1150
00:57:06,080 --> 00:57:08,080
Speaker 3: Ooh, there's an update.

1151
00:57:08,840 --> 00:57:09,880
Speaker 5: What happens.

1152
00:57:10,640 --> 00:57:14,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, stay vigilant. If you didn't do not let her

1153
00:57:14,440 --> 00:57:16,880
Speaker 3: take your money. I think gop, he's doing all of

1154
00:57:16,880 --> 00:57:19,400
Speaker 3: the right things. Yeah, I think. Yeah. I think she

1155
00:57:19,480 --> 00:57:20,760
Speaker 3: knows her sister pretty well. Yeah.

1156
00:57:20,760 --> 00:57:22,800
Speaker 5: I was gonna say, I think not that she's been

1157
00:57:22,840 --> 00:57:25,560
Speaker 5: down this road before, but she's been't been down similar

1158
00:57:25,680 --> 00:57:29,840
Speaker 5: roads before. So it's like, okay, like I kinda I kind.

1159
00:57:29,680 --> 00:57:31,480
Speaker 3: Of know what she's gonna do and how she's gonna be.

1160
00:57:31,920 --> 00:57:35,800
Speaker 5: So, but we do have an update, which is the

1161
00:57:35,960 --> 00:57:40,120
Speaker 5: next day. The response is that said her giving them

1162
00:57:40,200 --> 00:57:42,480
Speaker 5: my name involves me in this got to me.

1163
00:57:42,960 --> 00:57:43,800
Speaker 3: I called the police.

1164
00:57:43,920 --> 00:57:46,320
Speaker 5: The detective I spoke to said no fraud has been

1165
00:57:46,360 --> 00:57:49,000
Speaker 5: committed yet because the money has not been claimed and

1166
00:57:49,080 --> 00:57:50,800
Speaker 5: it's not a crime to give a false name to

1167
00:57:50,840 --> 00:57:54,240
Speaker 5: a casino. But she also said to not relax because

1168
00:57:54,240 --> 00:57:56,600
Speaker 5: there's nothing stopping my sister from getting a fake I

1169
00:57:56,720 --> 00:57:59,400
Speaker 5: d made and claiming the money, especially since I refuse

1170
00:57:59,480 --> 00:58:03,520
Speaker 5: to help. She also mentioned the fraudulent tax liability in

1171
00:58:03,720 --> 00:58:06,640
Speaker 5: case the casino didn't spot the fake ID. She said

1172
00:58:06,640 --> 00:58:08,480
Speaker 5: it was better to reach out to the casino now,

1173
00:58:08,840 --> 00:58:11,760
Speaker 5: So I did. I explained the situation and made it

1174
00:58:11,840 --> 00:58:16,160
Speaker 5: clear my name was given fraudulently. Turns out she was

1175
00:58:16,240 --> 00:58:18,560
Speaker 5: banned from the casino over a separate incident.

1176
00:58:18,840 --> 00:58:20,640
Speaker 3: Yeah. I think Opie knows what to do. I think

1177
00:58:20,920 --> 00:58:23,120
Speaker 3: she's been working on this for like a long time

1178
00:58:23,240 --> 00:58:24,919
Speaker 3: and knows her her sister quite well.

1179
00:58:25,560 --> 00:58:25,640
Speaker 4: Uh.

1180
00:58:25,840 --> 00:58:28,440
Speaker 3: I think the issue here is that your family, for

1181
00:58:28,640 --> 00:58:31,120
Speaker 3: some reason, are letting your sister kind of do whatever

1182
00:58:31,200 --> 00:58:31,680
Speaker 3: she wants.

1183
00:58:31,840 --> 00:58:33,080
Speaker 5: Yeah, which is why she keeps.

1184
00:58:33,320 --> 00:58:33,520
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1185
00:58:34,680 --> 00:58:37,400
Speaker 5: I mean even with like all the trouble that she's caused,

1186
00:58:37,480 --> 00:58:42,200
Speaker 5: she still continues to like to do it because the

1187
00:58:42,240 --> 00:58:44,600
Speaker 5: parents are like, just help her out, come on, she's go,

1188
00:58:45,720 --> 00:58:46,360
Speaker 5: she needs it.

1189
00:58:46,640 --> 00:58:49,320
Speaker 6: I think Opie's doing the right thing. Just covering your

1190
00:58:49,480 --> 00:58:51,280
Speaker 6: tracks and like, you know what, I don't it's not

1191
00:58:51,480 --> 00:58:54,200
Speaker 6: really title taling. It's like yah, it's like this is

1192
00:58:54,360 --> 00:58:56,840
Speaker 6: this is legal, this is this is really serious.

1193
00:58:57,160 --> 00:58:59,400
Speaker 5: It's like I'm I'm not going down with you if

1194
00:58:59,440 --> 00:59:00,919
Speaker 5: you want to be done. Go be dumb, but don't

1195
00:59:01,120 --> 00:59:01,720
Speaker 5: don't use me.

1196
00:59:02,360 --> 00:59:04,080
Speaker 3: Don't don't include me, and you're dumb. Dumb.

1197
00:59:04,200 --> 00:59:05,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, don't don't throw me under the bus.

1198
00:59:06,040 --> 00:59:08,840
Speaker 5: I ain't doing it. I ain't doing it all right.

1199
00:59:09,360 --> 00:59:12,400
Speaker 5: When she hit the jackpot, they were prepared to pay out.

1200
00:59:12,480 --> 00:59:15,280
Speaker 5: Then once they verified her ID, she told them she

1201
00:59:15,320 --> 00:59:18,240
Speaker 5: didn't bring it with her and I d'd herself as me.

1202
00:59:19,040 --> 00:59:22,000
Speaker 5: The manager told me that case was flagged anyway.

1203
00:59:22,160 --> 00:59:23,320
Speaker 3: Oh perfect.

1204
00:59:24,240 --> 00:59:27,600
Speaker 5: They're automatically suspicious of winners who claim they forgot their ID.

1205
00:59:28,760 --> 00:59:31,160
Speaker 5: I'm not sure if she's ever made a flat out

1206
00:59:31,200 --> 00:59:34,640
Speaker 5: fake idea of me before, that'd be for it. But

1207
00:59:34,800 --> 00:59:39,480
Speaker 5: when my probationary driver's license expired, she did use it

1208
00:59:39,600 --> 00:59:41,920
Speaker 5: to get into clubs when I was away at college.

1209
00:59:42,160 --> 00:59:43,520
Speaker 3: Well, I feel like that's a normal thing.

1210
00:59:43,800 --> 00:59:47,600
Speaker 5: We looked a lot more alike back then. Yeah, just

1211
00:59:47,840 --> 00:59:50,920
Speaker 5: forever scheming. I'm glad I didn't chance it.

1212
00:59:51,880 --> 00:59:52,920
Speaker 3: Oh, and there you go.

1213
00:59:53,280 --> 00:59:57,440
Speaker 5: No chance and no damage, no chance, no dance.

1214
00:59:57,840 --> 00:59:58,600
Speaker 3: That's what they say.

1215
00:59:58,960 --> 01:00:00,720
Speaker 4: And that's the end of this story. We're gonna go

1216
01:00:00,720 --> 01:00:01,400
Speaker 4: to the next one.

1217
01:00:02,360 --> 01:00:05,120
Speaker 1: Hey, it's Keelan, your residential nerd. We're going to get

1218
01:00:05,200 --> 01:00:07,080
Speaker 1: back to the stories. But here's three minutes of ads

1219
01:00:07,160 --> 01:00:08,000
Speaker 1: from our sponsors.

1220
01:00:08,680 --> 01:00:12,360
Speaker 3: My dad chose a new family and now everyone says

1221
01:00:12,520 --> 01:00:17,560
Speaker 3: I owe him closure. Daddy, see you. This is mostly

1222
01:00:17,600 --> 01:00:20,880
Speaker 3: about my dad Tom, who I'll be calling Tom throughout

1223
01:00:20,920 --> 01:00:24,280
Speaker 3: the post because irl I use his first name and

1224
01:00:24,400 --> 01:00:27,520
Speaker 3: have for several years now. By the way, this comes from.

1225
01:00:30,200 --> 01:00:34,720
Speaker 5: Ann's has hands Are you serious? Like hands?

1226
01:00:34,800 --> 01:00:37,640
Speaker 3: Hey? Like hands like jazz hand and.

1227
01:00:38,760 --> 01:00:39,680
Speaker 1: Like Tom hands.

1228
01:00:41,480 --> 01:00:43,040
Speaker 3: And if you want to say your own stories, go

1229
01:00:43,120 --> 01:00:45,720
Speaker 3: to the r slash Okay, storytime, separate it. I'm Sophia,

1230
01:00:46,040 --> 01:00:47,120
Speaker 3: I'm Savannah.

1231
01:00:46,840 --> 01:00:47,360
Speaker 1: I'm Keon.

1232
01:00:47,560 --> 01:00:49,360
Speaker 3: We're here to give good advice. Goofully, but we don't

1233
01:00:49,400 --> 01:00:51,080
Speaker 3: have all the answers. We only know what we do,

1234
01:00:51,880 --> 01:00:53,880
Speaker 3: so let us know what you would do. In the

1235
01:00:53,960 --> 01:00:58,240
Speaker 3: comment and dope says Tom married my late mom and

1236
01:00:59,080 --> 01:01:04,280
Speaker 3: when she was already he married her late mom and

1237
01:01:04,480 --> 01:01:07,120
Speaker 3: they had my late sister, who was twenty one female

1238
01:01:07,120 --> 01:01:11,560
Speaker 3: when she passed away. Wow, I'm so sorry. Very early together.

1239
01:01:11,720 --> 01:01:15,360
Speaker 3: And then Tom enlisted in the military. I twenty four male,

1240
01:01:15,600 --> 01:01:19,200
Speaker 3: was born three years later. Tom wasn't around very much

1241
01:01:19,240 --> 01:01:21,560
Speaker 3: when me and my sister were growing up. If we

1242
01:01:21,600 --> 01:01:23,400
Speaker 3: saw him for an entire week, out of the year.

1243
01:01:23,520 --> 01:01:26,320
Speaker 3: That was a lot. When he wasn't overseas, he would

1244
01:01:26,360 --> 01:01:29,240
Speaker 3: travel around with his military buddies or visit different family

1245
01:01:29,280 --> 01:01:32,400
Speaker 3: members throughout the States. It felt very much like he

1246
01:01:32,600 --> 01:01:35,680
Speaker 3: came home to rest and sleep and not be with

1247
01:01:35,800 --> 01:01:38,840
Speaker 3: his wife and kids. He was never with us for Christmas,

1248
01:01:39,120 --> 01:01:42,520
Speaker 3: for any of our birthdays, for any Father's Day, or

1249
01:01:42,720 --> 01:01:46,040
Speaker 3: for any holiday. He also didn't call very often, and

1250
01:01:46,240 --> 01:01:48,560
Speaker 3: my sister and I used to discuss whether Tom was

1251
01:01:48,600 --> 01:01:51,440
Speaker 3: sleeping around when he was gone. We thought it was

1252
01:01:51,680 --> 01:01:54,200
Speaker 3: very likely, seeing as he was gone for so much

1253
01:01:54,240 --> 01:01:58,520
Speaker 3: of the time. Even Tom's own parents were disgusted with

1254
01:01:58,680 --> 01:02:01,920
Speaker 3: his lack of involvement in the family and they refused

1255
01:02:02,000 --> 01:02:04,240
Speaker 3: to see him. When he would try to visit. They

1256
01:02:04,240 --> 01:02:06,360
Speaker 3: would send him our way, but he'd just go to

1257
01:02:06,440 --> 01:02:09,840
Speaker 3: his siblings places or his favorite aunts place. He was

1258
01:02:09,880 --> 01:02:12,280
Speaker 3: given a desk job when I was thirteen or fourteen,

1259
01:02:12,680 --> 01:02:15,680
Speaker 3: but he still wasn't around very much. We saw him

1260
01:02:15,720 --> 01:02:18,640
Speaker 3: a little more, but mostly he slept, work and trained

1261
01:02:18,680 --> 01:02:21,120
Speaker 3: with some of his buddies, hoping he could be shipped

1262
01:02:21,120 --> 01:02:24,720
Speaker 3: out again. That didn't happen. Then. When I was sixteen,

1263
01:02:24,840 --> 01:02:27,760
Speaker 3: he spent more time at home, but he wasn't engaged

1264
01:02:27,840 --> 01:02:30,400
Speaker 3: in the family at all. It took my sister and

1265
01:02:30,600 --> 01:02:33,040
Speaker 3: me ignoring his birthday the year before my sister and

1266
01:02:33,120 --> 01:02:36,560
Speaker 3: mom passed away for him to be like a what deck.

1267
01:02:37,320 --> 01:02:39,800
Speaker 3: He spent months trying to get my sister to talk

1268
01:02:39,880 --> 01:02:42,480
Speaker 3: to him and saying he wanted to fix the relationship.

1269
01:02:42,960 --> 01:02:46,439
Speaker 3: At this time, he was still mostly ignoring me. Three

1270
01:02:46,560 --> 01:02:49,120
Speaker 3: times before she passed away, she told him to go

1271
01:02:49,320 --> 01:02:53,360
Speaker 3: at himself and told Tom he was Tom and not

1272
01:02:53,600 --> 01:02:57,760
Speaker 3: our dad. You're Tom, You're not Dad, You're Tom.

1273
01:02:59,160 --> 01:03:01,840
Speaker 5: As Tom hamm tall hands.

1274
01:03:02,320 --> 01:03:04,720
Speaker 3: She told him Mom had worked well. He was away,

1275
01:03:04,960 --> 01:03:07,880
Speaker 3: so he wasn't the sole provider, and yet Mom could

1276
01:03:07,960 --> 01:03:11,040
Speaker 3: make time for her kids unlike him. The day she

1277
01:03:11,280 --> 01:03:14,600
Speaker 3: and Mom passed away, my sister told Tom she would

1278
01:03:14,720 --> 01:03:17,680
Speaker 3: never forgive him or want a relationship with him, and

1279
01:03:17,800 --> 01:03:20,080
Speaker 3: that she hated him. She said it would have been

1280
01:03:20,120 --> 01:03:22,080
Speaker 3: easier for all of us if he had passed away

1281
01:03:22,120 --> 01:03:25,920
Speaker 3: overseas instead of coming home, because then we wouldn't have

1282
01:03:26,040 --> 01:03:29,560
Speaker 3: dealt with so many years of him not caring. Three

1283
01:03:29,720 --> 01:03:34,000
Speaker 3: hours after that, my sister and Mom passed away. How

1284
01:03:34,760 --> 01:03:40,040
Speaker 3: at the same day, Oh, it was probably I wasn't

1285
01:03:40,040 --> 01:03:42,240
Speaker 3: living at home when they passed, and I took charge

1286
01:03:42,280 --> 01:03:45,880
Speaker 3: of the funerals and everything. Tom tried to once or twice,

1287
01:03:45,920 --> 01:03:48,480
Speaker 3: but he was shamed into staying out of things by me,

1288
01:03:49,160 --> 01:03:51,960
Speaker 3: by his parents, and by some of his siblings, who

1289
01:03:52,040 --> 01:03:55,200
Speaker 3: welcomed him into their home when he was avoiding his family.

1290
01:03:55,800 --> 01:03:58,440
Speaker 3: A year after my mom and sister passed away, Tom

1291
01:03:58,600 --> 01:04:01,800
Speaker 3: got remarried. I was invited but didn't go, and I

1292
01:04:01,880 --> 01:04:04,320
Speaker 3: didn't stay in touch with him throughout that period or

1293
01:04:04,440 --> 01:04:06,920
Speaker 3: after I knew from some of his family that he

1294
01:04:07,000 --> 01:04:09,320
Speaker 3: and his wife had kids together and that he is

1295
01:04:09,360 --> 01:04:12,120
Speaker 3: a whole other family. About a year ago, he started

1296
01:04:12,160 --> 01:04:15,760
Speaker 3: to remember I exist, and he contacted me through social media.

1297
01:04:16,120 --> 01:04:19,960
Speaker 3: That's the way. He's like, oh, wait, like I'm forgetting something.

1298
01:04:20,120 --> 01:04:20,480
Speaker 3: Who's that?

1299
01:04:20,720 --> 01:04:22,160
Speaker 1: W who's that person?

1300
01:04:22,280 --> 01:04:23,439
Speaker 3: Who was that? Oh?

1301
01:04:23,600 --> 01:04:28,280
Speaker 5: My god, I have a daughter.

1302
01:04:28,400 --> 01:04:32,200
Speaker 3: I have a daughter. It's like sorry, She's like, I

1303
01:04:32,280 --> 01:04:38,680
Speaker 3: have a daughter. What's her name? No, that's me.

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Speaker 5: Talk Tonil.

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Speaker 3: That can't be right. No, that can't be right. I

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01:04:48,280 --> 01:04:50,840
Speaker 3: wouldn't name her Tonail, Tom.

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Speaker 1: Tom.

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Speaker 3: Maybe maybe you come with me and then you introduce yourself,

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01:04:58,320 --> 01:05:01,160
Speaker 3: and then she'll she'll have to say and then yes, and.

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Speaker 5: Then it'll be hi I'm yes, yes, you are my daughter.

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Speaker 3: I introduced her as my daughter, and then you ask

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Speaker 3: her her name. This is my data name, instant name here,

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01:05:13,720 --> 01:05:16,040
Speaker 3: this is my daughta. We have this fun thing where

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01:05:16,080 --> 01:05:17,320
Speaker 3: we don't remember each other's name.

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Speaker 1: We played this game a lot. It's very fun. She's

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Speaker 1: really good at it.

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Speaker 3: She's so good. She calls me Tom. She calls me

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01:05:25,400 --> 01:05:27,600
Speaker 3: that's my name. But you know, I told him it

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Speaker 3: was too late and that he needed to focus on

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Speaker 3: his second chance family and leave me alone. He told

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Speaker 3: me he didn't want to carry the guilt of losing

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Speaker 3: two of his children in being hated by them in

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01:05:37,800 --> 01:05:41,480
Speaker 3: our or his final moments. I told him he didn't

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Speaker 3: have a choice in that anymore, and the time to

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01:05:44,080 --> 01:05:46,440
Speaker 3: avoid that was when we were kids and wanted and

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01:05:46,680 --> 01:05:48,000
Speaker 3: needed our father around.

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Speaker 1: Also a man, he's a man. That was funnier. I

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Speaker 1: have a daughter.

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Speaker 3: He was like, I've been his son. I've been your

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Speaker 3: son the whole time. He's like, right, this is my

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01:06:01,360 --> 01:06:05,880
Speaker 3: daughter's son, My daughter's Tom who passed away, My son Tom.

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Speaker 3: That's your name, Dad, Tim. You can also be Tom.

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Speaker 5: You Tom, You could be Tom junior.

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Speaker 3: You want to be Tom. I'm not Dad, They're all Tom.

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Speaker 3: This is my fiance Tom Tom. He has messaged me

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Speaker 3: several times, but I ignore them and don't engage back.

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01:06:23,800 --> 01:06:27,640
Speaker 3: Most are left unread. Even his wife contacted me through

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01:06:27,680 --> 01:06:30,680
Speaker 3: social media recently as well. Or I'm assuming it's her,

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01:06:30,800 --> 01:06:33,760
Speaker 3: but I'm not one hundred percent positive. She again, assuming

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Speaker 3: it's her, told me that he carries around the guilt

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Speaker 3: of my sister and that he doesn't deserve to carry

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01:06:39,000 --> 01:06:41,680
Speaker 3: it around with me too. She said I should forgive

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Speaker 3: on both of our behalves so it can be lifted

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01:06:44,160 --> 01:06:46,840
Speaker 3: of his guilt. She said their kids deserve to know

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01:06:46,920 --> 01:06:49,600
Speaker 3: their older brother too, and to hear about their older sister,

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01:06:50,160 --> 01:06:52,439
Speaker 3: and that I'm the only living person who can share

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01:06:52,480 --> 01:06:56,280
Speaker 3: all that. After that, he messaged me again and begged

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Speaker 3: me to come meet his family and try to join

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Speaker 3: them and repair her things with him. You told me

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Speaker 3: it would be all he would ever ask of me,

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01:07:04,600 --> 01:07:08,200
Speaker 3: by the way, actually asking yeah, Like yeah, his wife's

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01:07:08,240 --> 01:07:12,000
Speaker 3: asking you know what? Who she doesn't know? It doesn't Sorry, Yeah,

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01:07:12,080 --> 01:07:16,120
Speaker 3: you're you're It seems like your dad stole his wife's

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01:07:16,440 --> 01:07:19,680
Speaker 3: phone for a second, messaged you on his Instagram and

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01:07:19,800 --> 01:07:22,320
Speaker 3: then texted you and was like My wife has a point.

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Speaker 3: Definitely my wife. She's got a point. She wrote to

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01:07:27,240 --> 01:07:30,360
Speaker 3: you for sure it was her, and she's right. You

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Speaker 3: should forgive her.

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Speaker 5: So then you forgive me, even though you know nothing

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Speaker 5: of this woman, But just forgive.

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Speaker 3: Forgiveness is all about what we are, right. I forget you.

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Speaker 3: You're welcome. I forgive you for not talking to me.

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Speaker 3: I forgave you. Now comer. Yeah, let's let's set sugar terrible.

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Speaker 3: But there is a little bit left now. I have

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Speaker 3: one of my aunts who was one of the sols

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Speaker 3: to always welcome him, but also didn't agree with him

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Speaker 3: being left out of funeral planning. Trying to fight his corner,

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Speaker 3: She says, I need to figure out a way forward

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Speaker 3: with him and his family. She asked me if I

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Speaker 3: just never planned to know my new siblings, and I

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01:08:14,080 --> 01:08:17,559
Speaker 3: told her yep, I said, we will never have anything

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01:08:17,640 --> 01:08:20,800
Speaker 3: in common. There will always be a very big age gap,

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01:08:20,960 --> 01:08:24,160
Speaker 3: and Tom will never ever be my dad in anything

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01:08:24,360 --> 01:08:27,679
Speaker 3: but blood. I also accused her of enabling him, which

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01:08:27,760 --> 01:08:30,800
Speaker 3: pissed her off. I know I could or should block him,

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01:08:30,800 --> 01:08:34,080
Speaker 3: and I might. I haven't decided that far yet. Right now,

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Speaker 3: not responding works for me, but seeing as this has

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01:08:36,760 --> 01:08:39,840
Speaker 3: gotten heated and my aunt is fully ready to keep

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01:08:39,920 --> 01:08:42,600
Speaker 3: fighting for him, maybe with his wife. I don't know.

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01:08:43,120 --> 01:08:46,599
Speaker 3: I decided why not ask online? This isn't me asking

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01:08:46,720 --> 01:08:49,040
Speaker 3: in a place of therapy or anything else. By the way,

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Speaker 3: So what says the internet? Am I the ale?

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Speaker 4: No?

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Speaker 5: I don't think so.

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Speaker 3: I think it makes sense why he is coming back

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01:09:00,680 --> 01:09:04,080
Speaker 3: after all this time, and you know, wanting a relationship.

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01:09:04,160 --> 01:09:07,200
Speaker 3: He's lost important people in his life, even if he

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01:09:07,360 --> 01:09:11,080
Speaker 3: wasn't showing up for them, and I think he probably

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01:09:11,160 --> 01:09:15,479
Speaker 3: really does want a relationship with you. However, you don't

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01:09:15,520 --> 01:09:19,920
Speaker 3: really get to demand that. You don't get to choose

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01:09:20,400 --> 01:09:23,200
Speaker 3: when you come back into someone's life and whether or

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01:09:23,200 --> 01:09:25,280
Speaker 3: not they accept that, especially.

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Speaker 5: With everything that's happened in the past, Like, oh, now

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01:09:27,840 --> 01:09:30,160
Speaker 5: you're ready to come back into my life, so I

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01:09:30,320 --> 01:09:34,439
Speaker 5: have to be ready. Yeah, that's hilarious. I'm gonna go away.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he's remember God burn burn burn. He's allowed to ask,

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01:09:42,960 --> 01:09:44,360
Speaker 3: but you can also.

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Speaker 5: Say no, but you can also deny. Indeed, you have

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01:09:48,840 --> 01:09:52,400
Speaker 5: no obligation to forgive this man for everything that he's done.

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Speaker 5: And if you don't want him in your life, like

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01:09:55,080 --> 01:09:59,120
Speaker 5: he didn't want you, you can completely just yeah, not

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01:09:59,320 --> 01:10:00,840
Speaker 5: have him in your lif You are allowed to deal

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01:10:00,920 --> 01:10:03,040
Speaker 5: with that guilt and he can deal with it because

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01:10:03,080 --> 01:10:03,599
Speaker 5: that's what he did.

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01:10:03,840 --> 01:10:07,519
Speaker 1: And don't care what they say, don't don't know their opinion,

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Speaker 1: their pend It doesn't matter and that's the

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Speaker 5: End of this story.