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Speaker 3: Welcome to the twenty Huddle Podcast, and this is the

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Speaker 3: pre draft edition of the podcast. And I am very

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Speaker 3: happy to welcome a guy who knows all about the draft,

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Speaker 3: both from a player and a coach, which is why

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Speaker 3: I'm excited. Calvin Shephard, a linebackers coach. Here twenty eleven

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Speaker 3: third round pick the Miami or the Buffalo Bills.

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Speaker 1: Excuse me, let's start with this.

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Speaker 4: How is the off season a little bit shorter?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? But you like that? Right?

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Speaker 5: Oh?

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Speaker 2: Absolutely.

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Speaker 6: I wish it could have been two weeks even shorter,

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Speaker 6: but you know it doesn't either here nor there. But yeah,

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Speaker 6: kind of getting adjusted this being our first year being

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Speaker 6: in the playoff, kind of getting this month, kind of

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Speaker 6: month late start behind other teams, which, like we said,

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Speaker 6: is a good thing.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, it's different than years before.

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Speaker 3: All Right, we're coming up to draft week now. In

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Speaker 3: twenty eleven, you were coming out of LSU.

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Speaker 1: What was that week?

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Speaker 2: Like?

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Speaker 1: What was Was it nervous? Was it tense? When are

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Speaker 1: you getting last second calls? Did you not know what

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Speaker 3: Just maybe take me back to that draft week in

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Speaker 6: Well, that year in general, I don't know if you remember, Tim,

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Speaker 6: but that year in general was unique because that was

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Speaker 6: was different because I knew no matter where I got drafted, like,

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Speaker 6: obviously that's more unique than any other year in the drafts.

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Speaker 6: But from a nerve standpoint, absolutely, because early on you

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Speaker 6: obviously got the hype train, everybody telling you going first round,

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Speaker 6: this your dad sec. And then like the closer I

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Speaker 6: don't know about everybody else, but it seemed for me,

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Speaker 6: the closer I got to the draft, the lower they

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Speaker 6: I don't like this, dude, like I like where I

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Speaker 6: here nor like as he says, she say, I even

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Speaker 2: Now, Man, I wish I could have known this.

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Speaker 6: Mentally, it truly doesn't matter where you get drafted, Like

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Speaker 6: I really believe that, Like, like that's that's just unique

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Speaker 6: on that day. It's all about what you do after

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Speaker 6: you get drafted. And I think that's that's what mess

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Speaker 6: your end goal, you know, when you're growing up as

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Speaker 1: You're to your point.

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Speaker 3: We talked to brock right, you know, last week, and

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Speaker 3: what a great story, right, undrafted free agent came in,

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Speaker 1: Free agent guys.

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Speaker 3: And so if you're not one of those guys, it's

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Speaker 6: Absolutely, Like, if you really look at the lay of

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Speaker 2: The reality is guys got to go.

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Speaker 6: Earn a job every year, and that's kind of like

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Speaker 3: What were the pre draft is It's like, do you

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Speaker 1: So just be yourself a couple of days before the draft.

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Speaker 3: At that point you've been through the you know, the

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Speaker 1: Are you excited? Do you just want it to be over?

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Speaker 6: Draft as a player, it's for sure the butterflies in

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Speaker 6: Fly a round two all right, round five. I gotta

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Speaker 6: Things people don't kind of think about. They just look

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Speaker 2: To go as high as possible.

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Speaker 6: Personally, I was competing with other guys I'm gonna go

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Speaker 3: To that you turn that process into a third round

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Speaker 6: Honestly, the biggest thing for me, I think it helps

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Speaker 6: They're like, man, that's unique the way you do those,

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Speaker 2: And I said, like, these guys are going through everything.

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Speaker 6: Tim The worst thing, in my opinion, you could do

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Speaker 2: And I think you get.

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Speaker 6: To reveal the true person in that space versus you

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Speaker 6: sir Oh, you lied to me two questions ago. Come on, like,

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Speaker 6: because I've had guys do that to me, to be honest,

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Speaker 6: I told you I used to go in the train

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Speaker 1: How important is that for you too?

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Speaker 3: Because Dan has preached culture here so much, and it's

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Speaker 2: Difference one hundred percent.

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Speaker 3: What is that process like for you guys, as you know,

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Speaker 6: I think the reason we've had so much success is

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Speaker 1: Can You'll play here too.

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Speaker 3: Bit remiss now that the players are back in the

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Speaker 3: And you talk about the players, but you deserve a

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Speaker 6: Jerream thinks he's part time player, part time GM. So

445
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Speaker 6: he's already he's been upstairs. He will walk through the

446
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Speaker 6: cafeteria because he's been rehabbing. He's like, hey, have we

447
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Speaker 6: seen a linebackers replace up pitt in Nawawski.

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Speaker 2: I said, don't worry about it. I'll bring competition for you,

449
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Speaker 2: so don't you worry.

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Speaker 6: But no, dude, A very fortunate, bless to be a

451
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Speaker 6: part of this process on both sides, and now to

452
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Speaker 6: see it. Like I said, the biggest thing I'll try

453
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Speaker 6: to tell these draftees, these potential draft eligible players is

454
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Speaker 6: to relax, enjoyed the moment and do not let your

455
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Speaker 6: story in on Draft day is just beginning.

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Speaker 3: It's a fun time because you know by this time,

457
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Speaker 3: in a couple of weeks, you will be a much

458
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Speaker 3: better football team.

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Speaker 1: That's got to be exciting for a coach like you.

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Speaker 2: Can't wait as long as Brad give me a kope Morelamba.

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Speaker 4: Appreciate you, chef as always, thanks for taking the time.

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Speaker 2: All right, I appreciate you. Team.

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Speaker 4: Welcome back to the twenty in the Huddle podcast.

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Speaker 3: I'm very happy to welcome in Alex Maloney, who is

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Speaker 3: the coordinating producer of the NFL Draft coverage for the

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Speaker 3: NFL Network.

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Speaker 4: That's a full year job, Alex.

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Speaker 3: But you also do some of the international games, some

469
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Speaker 3: of the exclusive games for the NFL Network, So you

470
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Speaker 3: are a busy man.

471
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Speaker 4: But it is draft time and so now that is

472
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Speaker 4: obviously the focus. Alex.

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Speaker 3: When does this process start for you in terms of

474
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Speaker 3: core and getting everything ready for the draft. Is it

475
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Speaker 3: literally when the previous draft ends.

476
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Speaker 7: You know, on the on the plane back from Kansas

477
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Speaker 7: City last year. You instantly think, how did this draft go?

478
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Speaker 7: What can we do different?

479
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Speaker 8: What can we do better Detroit next year? And then

480
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Speaker 8: I think I took my first.

481
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Speaker 7: Official draft trip to Detroit late May, early June. So

482
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Speaker 7: once you're there, once you see the site, once you

483
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Speaker 7: kind of picture where all the pieces can go, you

484
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Speaker 7: really take off at that point. So it's a it's

485
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Speaker 7: a ten month process to get us from you know,

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Speaker 7: point A to point z.

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Speaker 3: So so to speak, well, you teased it. What was that

488
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Speaker 3: official visit? Like, what do you like of the setup

489
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Speaker 3: in Detroit? Obviously the first time the city is hosting

490
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Speaker 3: the NFL Draft, There's a lot of excitement here for it.

491
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Speaker 3: It's going to be a crowded and ruckous atmosphere. What

492
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Speaker 3: were the first impressions landing in Detroit and seeing this

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Speaker 3: thing start unfold?

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Speaker 7: Well, I think first and foremost everyone was ready for

495
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Speaker 7: it eleven ten eleven months out like, oh, why are

496
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Speaker 7: you here? Oh we're here for the draft coming next

497
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Speaker 7: to oh we know all about it, Like we're ready

498
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Speaker 7: for it. So the fact that people were already talking

499
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Speaker 7: about it made it kind of feel like, Okay, this

500
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Speaker 7: is this is going to be a special draft. This

501
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Speaker 7: isn't just going to be a oh hey, the draft

502
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Speaker 7: is here for a week and you pick up and

503
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Speaker 7: you go and then. You know, one thing that has

504
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Speaker 7: made these drafts so special is it's kind of moved

505
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Speaker 7: from city to city. I really think is the people

506
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Speaker 7: right it's seeing it's going to be seeing all the

507
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Speaker 7: Honolulu Blue kind of takeover downtown around the theater, and

508
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Speaker 7: I think the site for this year's draft and kind

509
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Speaker 7: of the avenues and the way people can kind of

510
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Speaker 7: be there to see it is going to be really special,

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Speaker 7: unlike many other cities that we've kind of had.

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Speaker 3: You know, this event is unique and probably for somebody

513
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Speaker 3: from your perspective, is just the unpredictability of it, right

514
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Speaker 3: of being outside we saw in Nashville a couple of

515
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Speaker 3: years ago with the weather and the rain and everything else.

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Speaker 4: Do you like that part of it? Does that part

517
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Speaker 4: of it make you a little.

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Speaker 3: Nervous on settling or you know, how do you approach

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Speaker 3: kind of just the unpre predictability of a different city

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Speaker 3: every year outside elements and who knows what's gonna happen.

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Speaker 7: It's funny that you say that because literally, like right

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Speaker 7: before we started talking. My like weather app started to

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Speaker 7: give me what next Thursday is going.

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Speaker 8: To look like.

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Speaker 7: So like right before we started talking, I like looked, okay,

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Speaker 7: it's partly it's partly sunny, partly cloudy, and it'll be

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Speaker 7: high of seventy.

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Speaker 8: So it's like great.

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Speaker 7: All of these like weather contingency meetings that we've had,

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Speaker 7: like maybe they don't matter.

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Speaker 4: I'm part of meteorologists here for the for the couple

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Speaker 4: of weeks.

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Speaker 7: Leading Yeah, all the time, Like Doppler is like a

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Speaker 7: favorite on my computer, like checking it all the time.

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Speaker 8: What's the wind speed?

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Speaker 7: Like you know, if the win is this much, we

537
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Speaker 7: have to move off our set all that sort of

538
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Speaker 7: stuff which I don't want to have to think about.

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Speaker 8: But it's part of the job, you know.

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Speaker 7: It's it's a price of doing business, right, you know,

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Speaker 7: all of that time that we spend to worry about

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Speaker 7: weather contingencies, it's worth it because we want to have

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Speaker 7: the special outdoor event and thankfully we haven't had anything

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Speaker 7: that has you know, knocked us around too much. So

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Speaker 7: if that's the price we have to pay to be

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Speaker 7: able to put on the best, the best event we.

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Speaker 8: Can, it's it's worth it. It's it's fine.

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Speaker 4: It's funny just what this event has become.

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Speaker 3: And obviously you're a big part of that bringing it

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Speaker 3: into everybody's living room. But when you look at the

551
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Speaker 3: old days and they're all in a hotel room and

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Speaker 3: the old school phones, and just how this has evolved

553
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Speaker 3: over the years, it's pretty amazing, isn't that. I mean,

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Speaker 3: this has become really one of the biggest events in

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Speaker 3: the football calendar. I look at it right there with

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Speaker 3: the Super Bowl, just in terms of the resources put

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Speaker 3: to it and the time spent and just everything that

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Speaker 3: goes along with it.

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Speaker 7: It's it's a traveling circus, and I mean then every

560
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Speaker 7: positive way possible. And I think what's special about it is,

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Speaker 7: you know, as you go from city to city, every

562
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Speaker 7: NFL city is a little bit different, so every that

563
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Speaker 7: makes every draft a little bit different, which is which

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Speaker 7: is great. So you know, New York was awesome. I

565
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Speaker 7: did a couple of drafts there. It was really fun.

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Speaker 7: You know, Jets and Giants fans doing their thing. But

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Speaker 7: to a certain extent, it was the same thing every year.

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Speaker 8: This is different.

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Speaker 7: Again, Like I said, every city provides something unique to us.

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Speaker 7: So being able to incorporate that into the show the spectacle,

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Speaker 7: because that's really what it is.

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Speaker 8: Uh, you know, makes this event one of my favorite

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Speaker 8: ones of the year.

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Speaker 2: So can you.

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Speaker 3: Tease anything special for for for Lions fans here?

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Speaker 1: What kind of.

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Speaker 3: Maybe Detroit related stuff are you gonna try?

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Speaker 4: Are you gonna highlight? Do we have to wait and

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Speaker 4: see or is there any teas allowed?

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Speaker 8: Look?

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Speaker 7: All all I will say is that surprises for this

582
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Speaker 7: year's draft I think are better than any draft we've

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Speaker 7: had before. And if I say anymore, I'm gonna get

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Speaker 7: in trouble, so I'll leave I'll leave it at that.

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Speaker 3: You know, I did see something interesting that the cross

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Speaker 3: promotion that that I saw you guys release. I think

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Speaker 3: it was last week where some ESPN guys are going

588
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Speaker 3: to come over to the NFL network. The NFL network

589
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Speaker 3: guys are going to go over to ESPN. I think

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Speaker 3: that's a really unique idea. I think it's really cool

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Speaker 3: personally from from kind of just being in the business

592
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Speaker 3: of a former newspaper guy, that that kind of cross promotion.

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Speaker 3: What what came what was the reason that came about?

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Speaker 3: And are you excited about that part? Maybe getting some

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Speaker 3: a little fresh talent little new perspective into into each network.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, we call it the crossover, you know.

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Speaker 7: For all these draft calls and site surveys like we've

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Speaker 7: talked about, which we've had for months, we're really working

599
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Speaker 7: in partnership with ABC and ESPN, Right, we're not.

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Speaker 8: It's not We're not as.

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Speaker 7: Big of rivals as you think we are. We have

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Speaker 7: to work together in order for this event to go

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Speaker 7: the way we wanted to go.

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Speaker 8: If we are.

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Speaker 7: Butting heads on stage literally with cameras or anything else,

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Speaker 7: this this event doesn't go. We share assets, we share ideas,

607
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Speaker 7: all that sort of stuff. So this was just kind

608
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Speaker 7: of a logical transition for us, Like it makes our

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Speaker 7: shoulder programming better if they have some fresh voices on

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Speaker 7: our air and vice versa. So the collaboration has been

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Speaker 7: one of the best parts of this experience. It would

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Speaker 7: be a lot harder if they were trying to backstop

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Speaker 7: us and we are fighting with them or whatever. But

614
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Speaker 7: instead we kind of really work as three networks together

615
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Speaker 7: and it's a rewarding part of what we do.

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Speaker 3: So are you in Detroit currently or when do you

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Speaker 3: get to troup? When does it become real for you? Like, Okay,

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Speaker 3: this is this is this is happening.

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Speaker 1: It's common.

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Speaker 7: I am wheels up on Sunday, so wheels up on Sunday.

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Speaker 7: I'll be at the theater come Monday. And that's when

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Speaker 7: it will hit me because I've looked at this space

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Speaker 7: where the like theoretical theater is going to be built.

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Speaker 7: Like we've kind of stood in the distance and there's

625
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Speaker 7: basically been like this elevated which has been showing us

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Speaker 7: in the distance, here's where this theater will be. And

627
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Speaker 7: it'll be great to have that cone go away, that

628
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Speaker 7: orange cone, and have the theater be there and say like, okay,

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Speaker 7: this is where the prospects walk, this is where the

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Speaker 7: commissioner announced their names.

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Speaker 2: Like that.

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Speaker 8: That's when it will finally hit me.

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Speaker 7: And then you know, it feels like a Super Bowl

634
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Speaker 7: in the sense where every day, as you get closer,

635
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Speaker 7: more and more people are there, the energy starts to build.

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Speaker 7: So you know, waking up Thursday morning feels like it

637
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Speaker 7: has like a Super Bowl Sunday type of vibe to it.

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Speaker 3: Well, hopefully it'll have a Super Bowl vibe just in

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Speaker 3: the sense that obviously there's a lot of excitement surrounding

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Speaker 3: the Lions. I know fans are gonna have to wait

641
00:28:39,720 --> 00:28:41,360
Speaker 3: a little bit for that selection.

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Speaker 4: Now twenty nine.

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Speaker 3: They've been used to picking a lot earlier than that,

644
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Speaker 3: but the success of last year obviously is gonna be

645
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Speaker 3: a lot later. So there could be some Detroit fans

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Speaker 3: that have a few pops late into the night staying

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Speaker 3: up there. You wheels up on Sunday. What's the first

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Speaker 3: thing you do when you get into Detroit? What's priority

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Speaker 3: Number one?

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Speaker 8: Well, I'm gonna eat first and foremost.

651
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Speaker 7: I've been there enough, I've scheduled my flight in a

652
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Speaker 7: way or I can like get to Detroit in time.

653
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Speaker 7: I know there are a few restaurants I like, so

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Speaker 7: I'll hit some of the favorites and then Monday it's

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Speaker 7: going to be taking them the site. Right, it's walking

656
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Speaker 7: the whole thing, knowing where everything is. I'm one of

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Speaker 7: the first people from our production team to get there,

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Speaker 7: so as people start to trickle in, quite frankly, I

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Speaker 7: have to have answers for a lot of people. So

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Speaker 7: it's making sure I can provide those answers and having

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Speaker 7: the right way of the land as best I could,

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Speaker 7: and then figure out how the site, you know, interacts

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Speaker 7: with what we want the production to be.

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Speaker 3: You guys do such a great job, you know, bringing

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Speaker 3: the draft in into the living room.

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Speaker 4: I love the coverage.

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Speaker 3: You guys have done great in all these cities. I

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Speaker 3: love it being in a different spot every year. I

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Speaker 3: think that was a great idea by the NFL.

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Speaker 4: Good luck.

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Speaker 3: I think it's gonna be an exciting week in Detroit.

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Speaker 3: There's gonna be a lot of fans down there. It

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Speaker 3: should be a great atmosphere. Let's hope the weather stays good.

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Speaker 1: I don't my.

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Speaker 8: Apple Weather says we're going to be fine here. I'm

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Speaker 8: not got it.

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Speaker 4: I know you're on top of that.

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Speaker 3: Alex Maloney does such a great job the coordinating producer

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Speaker 3: of the NFL Draft coverage, bringing this thing into our

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Speaker 3: living room every single year.

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Speaker 4: Great job. Have so much fun in Detroit. I think

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Speaker 4: it's going to be a great environment. I know you

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Speaker 4: guys are gonna put on quite the show. Thanks for

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Speaker 4: joining me, Olex, I appreciate it.

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Speaker 8: Happy to talk with you.

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Speaker 3: Welcome back to the twenty in the Huddle podcast, and

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Speaker 3: I am very excited to welcome in. Daniel Jeremiah, NFL

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Speaker 3: media analyst for the NFL Network. He is one of

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Speaker 3: my go to guys in the pre draft process.

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Speaker 4: Daniel, thanks for joining me. I appreciate you taking the time.

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Speaker 3: I know you are very very busy man these days.

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Speaker 9: Oh it's great to see you.

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Speaker 7: Man.

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Speaker 5: I cannot wait to get out to Detroit, get this

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Speaker 5: thing fired up, and let's get it going.

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Speaker 3: Well, I know you've got some commitments lined up here,

697
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Speaker 3: so let's get right into it. Different of a draft

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Speaker 3: for Detroit and Brad Holmes. You know, the last three

699
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Speaker 3: cycles he's had a top ten pick. The last two years,

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Speaker 3: he's had two picks in the first round. Now, because

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Speaker 3: of the success of last year, you've got to go

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Speaker 3: all the way down to twenty nine. I know Detroit

703
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Speaker 3: fans are in for a long you're okay with that.

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Speaker 9: I think you're okay with that trade.

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Speaker 4: Right, Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I'm just curious when you look at this draft class

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Speaker 3: as a whole, where do you see the biggest strengths.

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Speaker 3: Where could maybe you know, best available line up for

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Speaker 3: the Lions at the end down at twenty nine.

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Speaker 9: Well, it's a great question to me.

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Speaker 5: It's an offensive draft, so you've got you start with

712
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Speaker 5: the you know, we've got a bunch of quarterbacks.

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Speaker 9: When you when you're talking about potentially six going now.

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Speaker 5: I don't know that we'll get to six, but you know,

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Speaker 5: even five is a huge number. So you start with those,

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Speaker 5: you know, the top end quarterbacks. That's a story. You

717
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Speaker 5: look at the To me, the receivers and the tackles

718
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Speaker 5: are are very loaded positions, stack positions. I think those

719
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Speaker 5: three positions are going to make up a big chunk

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Speaker 5: of the round. So and in how that impacts the

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Speaker 5: teams at the bottom of round one, it's like, well.

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Speaker 9: Okay, we could look at it as maybe we could get.

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Speaker 5: One, you know, a guy at the at the tackle position.

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Speaker 5: If we wanted one, that would be you know, would

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Speaker 5: have been a top fifteen pick in other years. It

726
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Speaker 5: just so happens there's so many guys this year that

727
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Speaker 5: it pushes one of those down or what you can

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Speaker 5: look at it and say, well, you know what, we

729
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Speaker 5: could actually get to the near the front of the

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Speaker 5: line of some of these other positions that teams have

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Speaker 5: avoided because they've they've really honed in on those other spots.

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Speaker 5: So I look at it in terms of what they

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Speaker 5: need and what's going to be there and how the

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Speaker 5: draft falls, and I think, you know, to me, corner

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Speaker 5: is one that I'd be you know, keeping a close

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Speaker 5: eye on.

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Speaker 3: You know, to that point, because of all the quarterbacks

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Speaker 3: the offensive draft, Like you said, those teams that maybe

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Speaker 3: are looking to improve on defense that are in the

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Speaker 3: second half of the draft, towards the end of the draft,

741
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Speaker 3: they're probably gonna see some really good defensive players that

742
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Speaker 3: normally wouldn't be there be pushed back that way, right.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, I think that's the that's it, you know.

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Speaker 5: And I think, look, it's not the it's not the

745
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Speaker 5: best defensive draft we've seen. You know, it's not super

746
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Speaker 5: deep at some of these positions, but I do think

747
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Speaker 5: there is some talent there, especially towards the top. And

748
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Speaker 5: I think those guys, because we have so many teams

749
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Speaker 5: in two camps, they are going to get their young

750
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Speaker 5: quarterback in this draft or they're trying to help the

751
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Speaker 5: young quarterback they already have in this draft. And the

752
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Speaker 5: Detroit Lions obviously now with Jared established and all the

753
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Speaker 5: investments they've made on that side of the ball, they're

754
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Speaker 5: in a different camp completely, so they can look at

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Speaker 5: some you know, targeted needs defensively and what they want

756
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Speaker 5: to get accomplished there. And I think you're looking at,

757
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Speaker 5: you know, a chance to get the fourth corner, you know,

758
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Speaker 5: the fourth fifth corner in this draft class, which is

759
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Speaker 5: still a really, really good player, and I think there

760
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Speaker 5: is a drop off after that top handful of corners

761
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Speaker 5: then when you get into that next wave. So that's

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Speaker 5: one of the examples of how it could kind of

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Speaker 5: fault to them. Even like defensive tackle. You know, in

764
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Speaker 5: this draft class that you've got Byron Murphy is probably

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Speaker 5: going to go up there somewhere in the top fifteen

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Speaker 5: when it's all said and done. But there's you know,

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Speaker 5: two three other really intriguing guys. Johnny Newton would be

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Speaker 5: would be amongst that group as somebody that hey, you know,

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Speaker 5: we've got other areas we can look to address, but

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Speaker 5: this is a premier position and one of these guys

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Speaker 5: kind of falls to us, go ahead and take them.

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Speaker 4: You know.

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Speaker 3: One of the things that's been a core here in

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Speaker 3: Detroit with Brad Holmes and Dan Campbell is the offensive

775
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Speaker 3: line and keeping that a strength is something that Brad

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Speaker 3: talked about in his pre draft press conference. I'm just curious,

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Speaker 3: when you're looking at the end of the first round,

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Speaker 3: who are maybe a couple of those tackles Taylor Deckers

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Speaker 3: in the final year of his contract, or maybe some

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Speaker 3: of those interior guys, because usually, as you know, we

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Speaker 3: see those interior guys start to go in the twenties,

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Speaker 3: that's about where they're at. Maybe a couple tackles, a

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Speaker 3: couple interior guys that if Detroit wants to continue having

784
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Speaker 3: that offensive line of strength and add depth there, who

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Speaker 3: are maybe a few guys? Is that that you like

786
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Speaker 3: right there in the twenties?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, I think there's a chance that one

788
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Speaker 5: of the guid and Mims get there. Right So you've

789
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Speaker 5: got Guide in at Oklahoma and you've got Mems at Georgia.

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Speaker 9: Neither guys played a ton of football.

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Speaker 5: They're both physical freaks, and I mean they're like legitimately

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Speaker 5: physical freaks. So they're a little bit of a project.

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Speaker 5: You know, there's some work to be done there. It

794
00:35:22,960 --> 00:35:25,560
Speaker 5: could time up. Well you talk about Decker, you get through,

795
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Speaker 5: you know, it gives these guys time. They don't have

796
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Speaker 5: to throw them right out there. But you've got tremendous

797
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Speaker 5: upside and could you know, could book in with Penne

798
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Speaker 5: for for a long time. So those two guys, I

799
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Speaker 5: don't think they're both there. You know, it might not

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Speaker 5: either be there, but I think there's an outside hope

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Speaker 5: that one of those guys is there after that. To me,

802
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Speaker 5: there's a drop off at the position. I don't know

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Speaker 5: that I have one that's worthy of taking there. Jordan

804
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Speaker 5: Morgan's one that some people like that I'm not as

805
00:35:48,360 --> 00:35:50,719
Speaker 5: high on him, so that would be a little bit

806
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Speaker 5: rich for me in that in that department.

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Speaker 9: When you look at the.

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Speaker 5: Interior guys, look, it's the it's the centers you know

809
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Speaker 5: that have some versatility.

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Speaker 9: Uh, you knows.

811
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Speaker 5: Johnson out of Oregon is three hundred and almost three

812
00:36:02,760 --> 00:36:04,839
Speaker 5: hundred and thirty pounds. I think he can play any

813
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Speaker 5: of those three interior spots. He can move people. Not

814
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Speaker 5: quite as athletic as maybe you'd you'd want there, but

815
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Speaker 5: he's a good player. Graham Barton's gone, he's gonna be

816
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Speaker 5: He'll be picked by then from Duke. So then you're

817
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Speaker 5: looking at Zach Fraser, who if you were asking me,

818
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Speaker 5: we might even had this conversation previously, but the like,

819
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Speaker 5: who's the Detroit Lion type player? I would the Fraser

820
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Speaker 5: like Zach Fraser would be the he'd be the pick

821
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Speaker 5: there A four time wrestling champ, like absolutely, you know

822
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Speaker 5: it refuses to come off the field, you know when

823
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Speaker 5: he's hurt.

824
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Speaker 9: Yeah, Like that's a that's a lion.

825
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Speaker 3: That sounds like a Dan Campbell type of guy. Look,

826
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Speaker 3: Brad has shown a willingness to move up in the draft.

827
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Speaker 3: I think he's moved up four times in his previous

828
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Speaker 3: three drafts. If he decides there's a guy there, who

829
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Speaker 3: Daniel might that be? If it's either a guy or

830
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Speaker 3: a position wise, that would maybe tempt Brad to move

831
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Speaker 3: up from twenty nine.

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Speaker 1: If he's chooses.

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Speaker 5: I think if one of the to me that I

834
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Speaker 5: you know, you look at that top corner group and

835
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Speaker 5: for me it would be you know, Terry and Arnold

836
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Speaker 5: and quenya On Mitchell. If one of those guys started

837
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Speaker 5: to drift a little bit, I kind of identify the

838
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Speaker 5: The Jaguars is kind of an obvious corner team and

839
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Speaker 5: they're picking seventeen, so you know that I think that's

840
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Speaker 5: Seattle right that's picking right ahead of them at sixteen.

841
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Speaker 5: You know, that could be a you know, that could

842
00:37:26,000 --> 00:37:27,600
Speaker 5: be a trade partner if they thought, man, we can

843
00:37:27,600 --> 00:37:29,360
Speaker 5: get up here and get one of these top two corners.

844
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Speaker 5: You know, for a team that has a need there

845
00:37:31,480 --> 00:37:34,359
Speaker 5: and those are ready made guys, I think that would

846
00:37:34,360 --> 00:37:36,399
Speaker 5: be kind of something that would be at least it's

847
00:37:36,400 --> 00:37:38,359
Speaker 5: at least worth kicking around the draft room a little

848
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Speaker 5: bit and having that discussion.

849
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Speaker 4: How do you think the new kickoff rules affect the draft?

850
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Speaker 3: And I know you talked about this on your national

851
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Speaker 3: conference call this week, and I thought you made some

852
00:37:47,880 --> 00:37:48,960
Speaker 3: really interesting points.

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Speaker 4: I actually had asked Brad Holmes.

854
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Speaker 3: About it too, and he said they're still kind of

855
00:37:52,600 --> 00:37:56,120
Speaker 3: going through it, not just from the return aspect, but

856
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Speaker 3: what kind of body types are now going to be

857
00:37:58,840 --> 00:38:02,440
Speaker 3: in the cover in the return areas? And you know

858
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Speaker 3: they have confidence they'll figure it out, but it's still

859
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Speaker 3: something they're kind of working through. I'm just curious from

860
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Speaker 3: your perspective, how do you think maybe that the new

861
00:38:08,960 --> 00:38:13,200
Speaker 3: rules change how teams evaluate it. Maybe some players that

862
00:38:13,320 --> 00:38:15,400
Speaker 3: are taking that potentially wouldn't be in other years.

863
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Speaker 5: Yeah, I know, I think it does matter, and I

864
00:38:17,719 --> 00:38:21,080
Speaker 5: think there's the unknown this year, which I think will

865
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Speaker 5: help some people because maybe there's even a chance that

866
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Speaker 5: teams are overvaluing what you know impact this will make.

867
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Speaker 5: But I know teams are looking for every edge they

868
00:38:29,080 --> 00:38:31,919
Speaker 5: can get and they've identified this as an area where

869
00:38:31,920 --> 00:38:33,880
Speaker 5: they think they can they can kind of cut the

870
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Speaker 5: line here and really find value. So I think in

871
00:38:37,840 --> 00:38:39,440
Speaker 5: terms of the body types, like you're going to see

872
00:38:39,440 --> 00:38:42,200
Speaker 5: bigger guys out there, it's more of an offensive play

873
00:38:42,280 --> 00:38:45,560
Speaker 5: now almost than you know, than a coverage play. So

874
00:38:46,239 --> 00:38:49,719
Speaker 5: to me, you know, having I think it helps more

875
00:38:49,760 --> 00:38:53,640
Speaker 5: of the linebacker tight end group maybe than the corner

876
00:38:53,680 --> 00:38:56,239
Speaker 5: receiver group in terms of coverage value like how you

877
00:38:56,280 --> 00:38:58,319
Speaker 5: cover kicks and how you can you know, block and

878
00:38:58,360 --> 00:39:01,640
Speaker 5: do those things, whereas I think the returner there's a

879
00:39:01,680 --> 00:39:03,880
Speaker 5: little more value in some some being a little bit

880
00:39:03,880 --> 00:39:05,239
Speaker 5: more sturdy, like a running back.

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Speaker 9: Can you break it? You have vision? Can you break

882
00:39:07,239 --> 00:39:10,320
Speaker 9: a tackle? And then can you can you go from there?

883
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Speaker 5: So you know, like Cooper Dejean's names come up when

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Speaker 5: I'm talking to teams the last couple of days, and

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Speaker 5: that's one of the things that they literally have. You know,

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Speaker 5: it's close with him and another player, and they've bumped

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Speaker 5: him up because they feel like we're gonna he might

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Speaker 5: he could win us a game. You know, we put

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Speaker 5: him back there as a returner, you know, you have

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Speaker 5: one you return a kick for a touchdown, your odds

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Speaker 5: of winning that game or freaking sky high. So you know,

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Speaker 5: having having a guy like that, it breaks.

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Speaker 4: Ties a couple quick ones for you. Here, this is

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Speaker 4: the best.

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Speaker 3: This is the best roster the Lions have had heading

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Speaker 3: into the draft in Brad Holmes's ten year.

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Speaker 4: You look at it.

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Speaker 3: You mentioned cornerback obviously could use some depth there. But

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Speaker 3: when you go into a draft like that, can you

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Speaker 3: just really trust your board at that point? And is

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Speaker 3: that really the best strategy when it's all said and done,

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Speaker 3: Daniel is just trusting your board picking guys. Don't take

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Speaker 3: a lesser player to maybe fill a need. It just

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Speaker 3: get good football players. And you think to Tray, can

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Speaker 3: head into this draft doing that because of where this

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Speaker 3: roster is at and what.

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Speaker 1: Brad and Dan have done the last three years.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, some ways, it's it's like it's not a detriment.

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Speaker 5: It's almost a benefit to be picking down here for

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Speaker 5: a couple of reasons. Number One, you don't force anything,

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Speaker 5: You just kind of it false to you. And then

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Speaker 5: you're gonna you have a roster without that. You know,

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Speaker 5: we can't line up and play tomorrow need so you

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Speaker 5: can afford to just take what falls. You know, you

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Speaker 5: don't have to be locked in on one position to

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Speaker 5: the other. The other part of it is it doesn't

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Speaker 5: cost as much, so you're getting the same five years

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Speaker 5: of control for less money, and you're letting the draft

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Speaker 5: come to you and take the best available player. So

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Speaker 5: you're getting value in the player you get because you

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Speaker 5: don't have a glaring need and you're getting literally financial

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Speaker 5: value not.

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Speaker 9: Having to pay the guy as much money.

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Speaker 5: So there are benefits obviously to winning, and this is

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Speaker 5: one that's not often discussed, but I think, yeah, look,

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Speaker 5: it's you're getting a cheaper player and you're not having

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Speaker 5: to force it.

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Speaker 3: How much you're looking forward to get into Detroit and

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Speaker 3: just the setup in Detroit, first time city hosting it.

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Speaker 4: You're looking forward to it. Wheels up Sunday out here.

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Speaker 5: I cannot wait. Yeah, I will be out there Sunday

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Speaker 5: in one of those deals. This will tell you my

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Speaker 5: level of excitement. Monday is when my week kicks off

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Speaker 5: with all the responsibilities that I have with NFL network.

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Speaker 5: So you need to book your flight when or you

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Speaker 5: need to book your flight Sunday for a Monday start

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Speaker 5: of the week. My flight on Sunday morning is at

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Speaker 5: six am out of San Diego. So I am itching

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Speaker 5: to get out there and looking forward to a great week.

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Speaker 4: It's going to be a great week in Detroit.

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Speaker 3: We will be following you in the weeks of and

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Speaker 3: obviously the weekend one of the best in the business.

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Speaker 3: Daniel Jeremiah, thank you so much for joining the Twin

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Speaker 3: lovel podcast.

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Speaker 4: I appreciate you as always, You're the best.

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Speaker 5: I need you to text me a recommendation, give me

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Speaker 5: a meal recommendation, because I don't trust rap sheet like

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Speaker 5: wrapping for I don't trust his taste, so I need to.

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Speaker 4: No, no, no, I got you, I got you.

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Speaker 1: Text coming your way.

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Speaker 9: Okay, You're the best.

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Speaker 4: Thanks brother, Hi, Daniel, appreciate you.

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Speaker 9: See you man,