WEBVTT - #157 - Denzel Curry 0:00:07.840 --> 0:00:12.280 Bulet cav Show Special guests in here. Denzel Curry was good. Welcome, welcome. 0:00:15.040 --> 0:00:16.840 You know, I feel like I've been trying to interview 0:00:16.880 --> 0:00:18.920 you for like fucking eight years now, so it's good 0:00:18.920 --> 0:00:22.840 to finally link with you. Man. Listen when I mean, 0:00:23.120 --> 0:00:25.239 I think I told you this before then, Like you know, 0:00:25.320 --> 0:00:28.240 I was really hard at reaching you know, not reaching 0:00:28.240 --> 0:00:30.800 out to people and shit, like I just didn't do it. 0:00:30.840 --> 0:00:33.440 But you know, we finally hear, we finally get to talk. 0:00:33.560 --> 0:00:36.120 I feel like we're I was talking to somebody in 0:00:36.159 --> 0:00:37.839 your team last year. But did you have like an 0:00:37.920 --> 0:00:40.920 injury or something? Like did you did you like hurt 0:00:41.000 --> 0:00:43.839 some part of your body or something? And I mean 0:00:43.880 --> 0:00:46.120 I got an injury now. I know you got injury now, 0:00:46.159 --> 0:00:49.520 but this was probably like back in like twenty nineteen then, 0:00:49.720 --> 0:00:52.440 probably because I did have a crazy injury then because 0:00:52.440 --> 0:00:54.760 that's when I was on tour with Billy Eilish and shit, 0:00:54.800 --> 0:00:57.000 I think that's what it was. Yeah, how's how is 0:00:57.040 --> 0:00:59.960 that touring with Billy Eilish. Well, Billy Eilisch, that's my dog. 0:01:00.320 --> 0:01:03.480 You know, she seems super chill. Oh she's cool as fuck, 0:01:03.880 --> 0:01:07.920 But like, what is that like because you're your stage 0:01:07.959 --> 0:01:12.320 presence is insane. Your music is extremely like I feel 0:01:12.360 --> 0:01:17.680 like it's built for like live environments, right, But that's 0:01:17.720 --> 0:01:20.480 a different type of vibe, right man, it's a lot 0:01:20.520 --> 0:01:23.680 of little girls. The whole thing with the Billie Elis tour. 0:01:23.800 --> 0:01:26.319 It just opened my eyes to like what I could 0:01:26.400 --> 0:01:29.479 possibly be doing, you know. So what I mean by 0:01:29.520 --> 0:01:31.679 that is like I was doing venues and clubs and 0:01:31.720 --> 0:01:34.119 stuff like that, and you know, that's pretty much easy 0:01:34.120 --> 0:01:37.560 for me, very successfully. I might add, yeah, thank you, thanks, 0:01:37.800 --> 0:01:42.120 But when I got to do those arenas, it was different. 0:01:42.520 --> 0:01:44.399 I see what Kanye West was talking about when he 0:01:44.440 --> 0:01:46.920 went on tour with YouTube, like he wanted to make 0:01:47.040 --> 0:01:49.880 music for like arenas and shit like that. So with 0:01:50.040 --> 0:01:52.000 her giving me the opportunity to open up for her 0:01:52.040 --> 0:01:54.800 own tour, I felt like that was gangster because I 0:01:54.880 --> 0:01:57.520 never heard my music in that kind of environment before. 0:01:58.120 --> 0:02:00.880 So it made me look at my music differently. It 0:02:00.960 --> 0:02:03.440 made you kind of like I feel like there is 0:02:03.480 --> 0:02:06.280 there is a such thing as like making music for 0:02:06.440 --> 0:02:08.320 renus like we think of like people are like, yo, 0:02:08.360 --> 0:02:10.440 this is a festival record. This is gonna go crazy 0:02:10.480 --> 0:02:13.240 in front of at Coachella. Like so now when you 0:02:13.280 --> 0:02:15.680 go in and you record certain records, you'll have that 0:02:15.720 --> 0:02:19.200 in mind because you've actually been through it. Yeah, I 0:02:19.200 --> 0:02:21.480 mean a lot of that shit is like synth heavy 0:02:21.520 --> 0:02:23.600 and bass heavy, you know what I'm saying. And I 0:02:23.720 --> 0:02:25.320 just want to be able to have the crowd singing 0:02:25.320 --> 0:02:28.160 my lyrics because to be honest with you, like I'll 0:02:28.160 --> 0:02:30.520 be rapping fast and then I'll be saying big words 0:02:30.520 --> 0:02:32.960 and people like, I'll give you all these type of 0:02:33.000 --> 0:02:35.520 metaphors and sometimes it hit and sometimes it miss and 0:02:35.520 --> 0:02:37.520 people be like, what the fuck you talking about? Denzel? 0:02:37.720 --> 0:02:40.679 You know, it's never like real straight up. But with 0:02:40.919 --> 0:02:44.000 just me working now, I feel like melody is always 0:02:44.040 --> 0:02:46.720 gonna win. Like we know songs just based off the 0:02:46.760 --> 0:02:49.799 melody like ABCD or you know all that shit. You 0:02:49.800 --> 0:02:50.960 can hum it and you'll be like, I know what 0:02:50.960 --> 0:02:53.399 that is? You No twinkle twinkle, a little starry, same shit? 0:02:53.760 --> 0:03:00.920 How would someone hum ultimate? So was Billy Elis just 0:03:00.919 --> 0:03:02.359 a fan of you? And like what like was it 0:03:02.440 --> 0:03:04.280 her idea? Like how did that happen? Because that's kind 0:03:04.280 --> 0:03:07.880 of she's young, you know, all right? It happened in 0:03:08.200 --> 0:03:10.760 twenty sixteen, fyf that's when she came to my show 0:03:10.760 --> 0:03:13.200 for the first time. I'm like one of her favorite rappers, Okay, 0:03:13.240 --> 0:03:14.520 And I didn't even know I was one of her 0:03:14.520 --> 0:03:17.280 favorite rappers until she told me in twenty seventeen, because 0:03:17.280 --> 0:03:20.600 that's where we've met officially. And the first time we met, 0:03:20.639 --> 0:03:22.960 we was at the studio. We was, you know, supposed 0:03:22.960 --> 0:03:25.520 to work on the record. It was me, her and Phineas, 0:03:25.680 --> 0:03:28.640 and we didn't even make a record. We were just 0:03:29.280 --> 0:03:31.200 cracking jokes the whole time we went to go get 0:03:31.280 --> 0:03:33.800 a side boat, go eat. We were just you know, 0:03:34.480 --> 0:03:37.160 talking to each other, just you know, just cutting up. 0:03:37.560 --> 0:03:40.040 Then our relationship started to build more and more over 0:03:40.160 --> 0:03:44.040 time is you know, as time progressed and shit, And 0:03:44.200 --> 0:03:46.680 basically you know, she came to the studio and worked 0:03:46.680 --> 0:03:49.280 on Sirens, which is with me and Jed on a 0:03:49.280 --> 0:03:52.920 taboo on record. Yeah, you know, shout out to Billy. Yeah. 0:03:52.920 --> 0:03:55.520 She seems to be like someone who's like, despite all 0:03:55.520 --> 0:03:57.360 the fame and being one of the biggest, you know, 0:03:57.440 --> 0:04:00.240 pop stars in the world, she seems pretty like every 0:04:00.240 --> 0:04:02.840 time I see her talking or doing an interviews, she 0:04:02.840 --> 0:04:04.960 seems like a humble, cool chick. Bro. She's down to 0:04:05.000 --> 0:04:07.560 earth as fuck, and I think she wears Jinkos, which 0:04:07.600 --> 0:04:09.240 is awesome. I don't even know what that is. But 0:04:09.560 --> 0:04:12.520 Jinko pants, Jinko. You don't remember Jinko. How old are 0:04:12.560 --> 0:04:15.640 you well, dude, yeah, twenty seven, Yeah, you don't remember Jinkos. 0:04:15.680 --> 0:04:18.479 Here's the thing, man, I mean pockets. Juggalos used to 0:04:18.480 --> 0:04:21.120 wear them. Oh you talk about like insaaning clomba posse 0:04:21.240 --> 0:04:25.360 type shit. No, you don't remember the Jinko pants, huge 0:04:25.520 --> 0:04:28.400 legs and the pockets were like the size of this 0:04:28.480 --> 0:04:32.039 TV oll. No oh man, no, b there was in 0:04:32.080 --> 0:04:35.279 Florida wearing them somewhere. I wasn't wearing them. They're probably 0:04:35.320 --> 0:04:37.120 wearing them in the middle of flo Like Pole County 0:04:37.120 --> 0:04:38.520 had them for sure. You know what I'm saying, I 0:04:38.560 --> 0:04:42.960 don't know about not Dad County, not Dade County. Yo. 0:04:43.040 --> 0:04:44.719 You are a pioneer, though. I want to give you 0:04:44.760 --> 0:04:49.159 love because I would always be interviewing some of these. Uh. 0:04:49.279 --> 0:04:52.680 You know, I feel like sou South Florida in general 0:04:53.480 --> 0:04:57.440 has really had its its moment. It's still happening, but 0:04:57.480 --> 0:04:59.960 it kind of really kicked off like where nationally, like 0:05:00.080 --> 0:05:02.800 some of the bigger artists were all from you know, 0:05:02.800 --> 0:05:07.160 obviously Kodak Black is one of those guys ex little Pump. 0:05:07.560 --> 0:05:08.760 You know, we can go on and on and on, 0:05:08.960 --> 0:05:13.280 but I do feel like you and uh, the Raider 0:05:13.320 --> 0:05:17.480 Clan really kicked off that entire just that whole entire 0:05:17.839 --> 0:05:20.960 wave out of South Florida. I mean, of course, and 0:05:21.000 --> 0:05:23.320 I'm gonna give a respect. Whereas dude, you know, like 0:05:23.520 --> 0:05:26.599 Space goes Perp really was like the driving force for 0:05:26.680 --> 0:05:28.719 that ship at the time when he first came out 0:05:28.760 --> 0:05:31.680 and him and Rocky was running together until the beef happened. 0:05:31.920 --> 0:05:33.440 But when it came down, the Raider Clan and the 0:05:33.480 --> 0:05:36.120 whole aesthetic and everything before we disbanded, like we was 0:05:36.160 --> 0:05:39.039 really trying to bombard the industry on some shit like 0:05:39.160 --> 0:05:40.760 when we was young and we was all in high 0:05:40.760 --> 0:05:42.640 school at the time, Like y'all laid the roots for 0:05:42.920 --> 0:05:44.440 all this other shit that's going on, you know what 0:05:44.480 --> 0:05:46.280 I'm saying. For sure, of course all that shit came 0:05:46.279 --> 0:05:49.560 from us. Yeah, one hundred percent. And yeah, you definitely 0:05:49.680 --> 0:05:51.640 you need to get to get your flowers fat. Yeah, 0:05:51.800 --> 0:05:53.400 it's crazy because when you think about it, we were 0:05:53.440 --> 0:05:55.840 just talking about it yesterday, The Asap Rocky Space goes 0:05:55.880 --> 0:05:59.839 Perp thing, such an unfortunate thing. Because it's like, what 0:06:00.040 --> 0:06:01.600 what if that never would have happened? Like you know 0:06:01.600 --> 0:06:03.960 what I'm saying, Like, man, listen, if that would have 0:06:04.000 --> 0:06:06.760 never happened, you know, we probably would have had a 0:06:06.920 --> 0:06:09.680 stronghold on the game right now, you know what I'm saying, 0:06:09.720 --> 0:06:11.800 because we was like the driving force of the culture, 0:06:11.880 --> 0:06:15.960 both Raider Clan and a Sap. Yeah, and a lot 0:06:16.000 --> 0:06:17.680 of the aesthetic and a lot of the vibe. I 0:06:17.680 --> 0:06:20.560 feel like that Rocky had for the Asap Mob, you know, 0:06:21.440 --> 0:06:25.119 was heavily influenced by the Raider Clan shit as well. Yeah, 0:06:25.320 --> 0:06:28.320 I mean when it came down to everything that was 0:06:28.320 --> 0:06:30.719 going on, and then you know when Purp and Rocky 0:06:30.839 --> 0:06:33.680 was going through it and shit, and you know, black 0:06:33.720 --> 0:06:36.600 Land Radio six six point six did come out before 0:06:36.960 --> 0:06:40.040 I heard Live Love a Sap or Paxos. You get 0:06:40.080 --> 0:06:43.280 what I'm saying. So I still have respect for Rocky. 0:06:43.279 --> 0:06:45.160 I still respect Rocky to this day. You get what 0:06:45.200 --> 0:06:48.160 I'm saying. But I give credit where on credit is due. 0:06:48.279 --> 0:06:50.240 If it wasn't for Purp and it wasn't for Raider Clan, 0:06:50.240 --> 0:06:52.240 I want to have a platform to be Denzel Curry. 0:06:52.680 --> 0:06:55.239 You feel what I'm saying, right, So, I'm gonna always 0:06:55.240 --> 0:06:57.120 give respect to that, regardless of what the fuck me 0:06:57.160 --> 0:06:59.320 and this nigga Purp go through, right, you know what 0:06:59.320 --> 0:07:02.240 I mean? What's your relationship? Like, what is Purp up to? 0:07:02.440 --> 0:07:04.279 Do you do you have a relationship with him anymore? 0:07:05.360 --> 0:07:07.000 I don't know. I don't talk to food like that. 0:07:07.040 --> 0:07:08.599 He don't talk to me. I don't talk to him, 0:07:08.640 --> 0:07:11.520 but we still you know, he'll big me up and 0:07:11.560 --> 0:07:16.080 then he'll disrespect me in the same week. Yeah, you know, 0:07:16.520 --> 0:07:18.880 but it's all love from my point, and I hope 0:07:18.880 --> 0:07:21.200 it's all love from him, and it is what it is. Well, 0:07:21.200 --> 0:07:23.280 I was telling you this, man, I do feel like 0:07:24.640 --> 0:07:29.559 for us, you're you're very successful, but I still feel 0:07:29.560 --> 0:07:32.480 like somehow you're like underappreciated in the industry because I 0:07:32.480 --> 0:07:35.360 feel like you're one of the most versatile rappers artists 0:07:35.400 --> 0:07:38.600 period in the last decade or so, you know, Like 0:07:39.960 --> 0:07:42.800 listening to I just listened to your well ninety nine 0:07:42.800 --> 0:07:44.960 percent of your new album, I'm like, man, like the 0:07:45.000 --> 0:07:49.040 shit that you can do between melodies, between the fast 0:07:49.120 --> 0:07:52.400 rap shit, between the boom bab shit. It's there's just 0:07:52.400 --> 0:07:53.920 not a lot of people who can cover all those 0:07:53.960 --> 0:07:56.640 bases and cover them very well and organically, if that 0:07:56.720 --> 0:07:58.840 makes sense. Well, a lot of that shit get lost 0:07:58.840 --> 0:08:02.120 in translations because I'm not popular. If you want to 0:08:02.160 --> 0:08:03.800 be real, you know what I'm saying, Like, you're not 0:08:03.840 --> 0:08:06.880 pop music. Yeah, I'm not pop music, So you got 0:08:06.880 --> 0:08:08.880 to really dig into crevice to be like, oh, I 0:08:08.960 --> 0:08:12.000 listened to Denzel Curry, like, you know, my music was 0:08:12.200 --> 0:08:15.800 catered to a niche crowd. You dig yeah, and me 0:08:16.040 --> 0:08:19.120 when it comes down to this album, I just want everybody. 0:08:19.320 --> 0:08:21.200 It doesn't matter if you're a Denzel Curry fan or not. 0:08:21.560 --> 0:08:24.000 I want you to feel that shit period. Is this 0:08:24.080 --> 0:08:26.680 the first album that you took that approach with? Yeah, 0:08:26.720 --> 0:08:30.320 I took my feelings first before I took me what 0:08:30.400 --> 0:08:33.719 I was gonna think about rapping about it was my feelings, 0:08:34.000 --> 0:08:36.840 Like whatever I felt, I know people have the same feelings, 0:08:36.960 --> 0:08:39.880 so I'm gonna write what I feel instead of writing 0:08:39.920 --> 0:08:43.920 what I know. I like that. I like that. I 0:08:43.960 --> 0:08:46.719 would just learn that you do muay Thai. Yeah, you've 0:08:46.720 --> 0:08:50.520 been doing it since twenty seventeen. But if a little 0:08:50.520 --> 0:08:54.160 bit of background, keV a lot of my brothers, Like 0:08:54.280 --> 0:08:57.160 my brothers, you know, been in the streets and shit 0:08:57.280 --> 0:08:59.200 like that. I'm the only one out of my brothers 0:08:59.240 --> 0:09:01.880 that never been a jet you know what I'm saying. 0:09:01.960 --> 0:09:03.720 I lost one of my brothers. But the brother I 0:09:03.760 --> 0:09:06.719 did lose, he was a backyard fighter back in the 0:09:06.800 --> 0:09:10.200 day with like Kimbo Slice and then got our five thousand. Yeah, 0:09:10.200 --> 0:09:11.920 and all them videos are crazy. And that was all 0:09:11.920 --> 0:09:14.480 in Miami. Yeah, And there was a movie that he 0:09:14.559 --> 0:09:16.320 was in called Dog Fights. So I'm just letting you 0:09:16.400 --> 0:09:19.440 putting you up on game. And I was also in 0:09:19.480 --> 0:09:21.880 the movie too, but that was like twelve year old Denzel. 0:09:21.920 --> 0:09:23.560 And if you go on YouTube to this day and 0:09:23.600 --> 0:09:27.760 you look up like fights like Level Martinez versus Alfonso 0:09:27.840 --> 0:09:31.000 and all those bad fights, you know, crazy. If you 0:09:31.080 --> 0:09:35.080 look at Tree versus Mike, you gonna see me there 0:09:35.160 --> 0:09:37.640 in a white tea holding a camera up. She used 0:09:37.640 --> 0:09:39.520 to be in the backyard. I used to be in 0:09:39.559 --> 0:09:41.640 the backyard like dead ass, like I'm not even gonna 0:09:41.640 --> 0:09:44.040 sit here in lots of How would they organize those 0:09:44.080 --> 0:09:46.640 things because bruh, Like my brother would just come in 0:09:46.640 --> 0:09:48.199 the room and he'd be like, Hey, you want to 0:09:48.240 --> 0:09:49.800 come over here and see me fight? And I'm like, 0:09:49.920 --> 0:09:54.280 I you know, I would go there. It'll be in Paran. 0:09:54.640 --> 0:09:57.719 In the middle of Paran. It'll be a little greenhouse 0:09:57.800 --> 0:10:00.560 and a big ass backyard, and they were check you 0:10:01.000 --> 0:10:03.440 at the gate to see if you got guns, knives, whatever. 0:10:03.679 --> 0:10:05.560 And if you got guns and knives whatever, you gotta 0:10:05.559 --> 0:10:07.560 go put that shit in your car. And then you 0:10:07.600 --> 0:10:10.480 come in. They check kids too, so you going there, 0:10:10.679 --> 0:10:12.600 you know what I'm saying. And there'd be a ring 0:10:12.640 --> 0:10:14.240 in there. At first, it was like a box ring 0:10:14.559 --> 0:10:16.480 at first. He didn't have no ring at all. Some 0:10:16.559 --> 0:10:18.480 of the videos there was just there's just no ring. Yeah, 0:10:18.520 --> 0:10:20.960 it was just people crowding around. At first they didn't 0:10:20.960 --> 0:10:22.800 have a ring. Then they had a ring, then they 0:10:22.800 --> 0:10:24.920 had an octa gun, then they had a triangle that 0:10:25.040 --> 0:10:28.079 was like the final you know. And just being back 0:10:28.120 --> 0:10:30.040 there and just watching all these fights, you hearing the 0:10:30.080 --> 0:10:33.160 beef go down with people and shit, you know, and 0:10:33.200 --> 0:10:35.560 you're just like, Yo, what the fuck is going on? 0:10:35.640 --> 0:10:37.200 Like you see a big guys, dude, like I'm gonna 0:10:37.200 --> 0:10:39.080 get you, nigga, I'm gonna get Like what the fuck? 0:10:39.200 --> 0:10:41.680 Like right, yeah, And I'm twelve years old looking at 0:10:41.720 --> 0:10:44.160 all this shit, like Yo, this is like some real 0:10:44.360 --> 0:10:47.000 fighting shit, Like there's some real tournament shit, and I'm 0:10:47.040 --> 0:10:49.840 watching people get knocked the fuck out. I'm watching blood 0:10:50.160 --> 0:10:53.600 just gushing just out of my brother's nose. Did your 0:10:53.600 --> 0:10:58.079 brother ever fight Kimbo? Nah? Hell, Kimbo was already like 0:10:58.240 --> 0:11:01.800 in a UFC around this time. I mean, but Dada 0:11:02.000 --> 0:11:04.959 was Dada and Kimbo used to roll with each other 0:11:05.040 --> 0:11:07.679 until they kind of fell out, you know what I'm saying. 0:11:08.360 --> 0:11:11.560 And around that time it was just Dada and what 0:11:11.679 --> 0:11:14.480 Dada was doing in the backyards. But Kimbo was before that, 0:11:14.840 --> 0:11:17.680 you know what I mean. So you know, long lived Kimbo, 0:11:17.800 --> 0:11:19.920 you feel me. So that was kind of the origins 0:11:19.920 --> 0:11:22.560 of your that got you interested in learning how to fight. 0:11:23.120 --> 0:11:24.800 I mean, I had to learn how to fight. I 0:11:24.840 --> 0:11:26.760 had too many brothers to not know how to fight. 0:11:26.840 --> 0:11:29.720 How many brothers do you have, Well, one of them pasted. 0:11:29.760 --> 0:11:32.040 It was four of us. Okay, you know what I'm saying. 0:11:32.120 --> 0:11:34.280 And were you the youngest, I'm the youngest. Oh yeah, 0:11:34.280 --> 0:11:35.760 I mean you got to learn that. I gotta learn 0:11:35.760 --> 0:11:39.400 how to fight. I was like, like, he is getting 0:11:39.400 --> 0:11:41.439 bullied outside of the house and getting bullied inside the house. 0:11:41.440 --> 0:11:42.920 So I had to learn how to fight either way 0:11:42.960 --> 0:11:47.559 to go. So in twenty seventeen. You take a muy Thai, Yeah, 0:11:48.080 --> 0:11:51.000 what kind of give us the rundown on like just 0:11:51.040 --> 0:11:53.240 the muay Thai shit because you were you're very passionate 0:11:53.240 --> 0:11:54.920 about it. Well, I don't think a lot of people 0:11:55.000 --> 0:11:58.120 know because you was You're very you know your shit, man. Well, 0:11:58.160 --> 0:12:01.040 when it comes down to muy time, man, I like, well, 0:12:01.280 --> 0:12:04.400 I stopped smoking weed right, And this was back in 0:12:04.440 --> 0:12:06.199 twenty seventeen. I felt like my life was gonna be 0:12:06.240 --> 0:12:08.760 boring because I wasn't like smoking right, and then I 0:12:08.800 --> 0:12:10.640 was like, you know, might as well start drinking too, 0:12:11.240 --> 0:12:13.440 So I just looked up. I remember I was doing 0:12:13.520 --> 0:12:15.640 martial arts with my brothers and stuff like that when 0:12:15.679 --> 0:12:17.760 I was younger. So I'm like, you know, when I 0:12:17.760 --> 0:12:20.200 find a time, you know, if I get enough money, 0:12:20.200 --> 0:12:21.840 I'm just gonna go back into martial arts. And I 0:12:21.840 --> 0:12:24.480 said that when I first started rapping shit, because I 0:12:24.520 --> 0:12:28.400 stopped doing it. And then next thing, you know, I 0:12:28.480 --> 0:12:31.240 was like, Oh, there's a multi place right down the street. 0:12:31.240 --> 0:12:34.720 It was five Star Martial Arts. Go there. I signed up, 0:12:34.920 --> 0:12:37.120 got signed me up. I looked at the class and 0:12:37.120 --> 0:12:38.960 then I went in the next day, started doing it, 0:12:39.040 --> 0:12:42.600 got my girl to do it. And then I just 0:12:42.679 --> 0:12:45.800 kept doing it ever since. And it's been five years, right, 0:12:45.960 --> 0:12:48.199 it's been five years. I can't train, not because I 0:12:48.200 --> 0:12:51.320 got a tour in ACL but like is it like 0:12:51.600 --> 0:12:54.120 do you get belts? Like what's your belt level? Well, 0:12:54.120 --> 0:12:56.640 in Thailand they don't really have a ranking system. Okay, 0:12:56.720 --> 0:12:58.280 you know what I'm saying, because they've been doing it 0:12:58.320 --> 0:13:01.880 since they was kids, pug but that's like cut off 0:13:01.920 --> 0:13:04.559 like addresses, that's what they will wear before they go. 0:13:04.720 --> 0:13:07.800 It's like it brings us a good luck. But in 0:13:08.679 --> 0:13:10.959 like the ranking system at the school they will ranking, 0:13:11.080 --> 0:13:12.719 like how they will rank jiu jitsu? You get know 0:13:12.720 --> 0:13:14.800 what I'm saying. You start off white, you know, you 0:13:14.880 --> 0:13:17.040 might get a stripe. You might end up at blue. 0:13:17.160 --> 0:13:19.400 You might get a stripe, you might end up at purple, 0:13:19.440 --> 0:13:21.240 you might get a stripe. You might end up at brown, 0:13:22.400 --> 0:13:25.400 and then all the way to black, like brown to black. 0:13:25.520 --> 0:13:30.000 You feel me how people rank their schools differently though? 0:13:30.080 --> 0:13:32.600 How far would you take them? Thing? Because we know 0:13:32.679 --> 0:13:34.800 got like, you know, we got a friend d Smoke 0:13:35.200 --> 0:13:38.319 who was like a semi professional boxer before you really 0:13:38.360 --> 0:13:40.760 started popping as a rapper, So like would you like, 0:13:40.760 --> 0:13:42.720 how far would you take it. I mean I wanted 0:13:42.760 --> 0:13:45.760 to compete, to be honest, I wanted to compete to 0:13:45.800 --> 0:13:48.240 see what my skill level was at, you know, to 0:13:48.320 --> 0:13:51.319 see if I'm pretty, you know, see where I'm at, 0:13:51.360 --> 0:13:53.000 and see where I need to improve on, you know 0:13:53.000 --> 0:13:55.600 what I mean. But that's how far I was willing 0:13:55.640 --> 0:13:58.079 to take it, like to do a couple of matches, 0:13:58.600 --> 0:14:02.440 but other than that, it was just I just like 0:14:02.520 --> 0:14:04.560 doing it for my sanity to be real. It's like 0:14:04.679 --> 0:14:08.839 it's almost like therapy. Have you been to Thailand? Yes? 0:14:09.120 --> 0:14:12.520 How was that? Taland's dope? It's like very did you 0:14:12.520 --> 0:14:14.320 go out there and like watch Muay Thai like And 0:14:14.360 --> 0:14:16.440 it's because you know, you see these like YouTube videos 0:14:16.480 --> 0:14:19.360 like the Multai fights and Thailand me like Loupini Stadium 0:14:19.400 --> 0:14:23.560 stuff like that. Shit sook crazy though. Yeah, I mean 0:14:23.840 --> 0:14:26.840 I haven't been able to do that. But my boy Kashan, 0:14:26.960 --> 0:14:28.800 he been trying to get me to go to go 0:14:28.880 --> 0:14:31.080 back to Thailand and like go to the gyms, because 0:14:31.160 --> 0:14:33.240 you got to know somebody to have that connection to 0:14:33.280 --> 0:14:35.880 the gym to get in there. Yeah, I mean it's open, 0:14:35.960 --> 0:14:38.520 but you gotta I would much rather know somebody who's 0:14:38.520 --> 0:14:40.200 been there before. I know these gyms and you know 0:14:40.240 --> 0:14:43.160 what I'm saying and just pull up. Yeah, now that's 0:14:43.200 --> 0:14:46.560 dope man. You also obviously are a big UFC fan. 0:14:46.680 --> 0:14:49.280 Oh hell yeah, who's your like? If you had to 0:14:49.280 --> 0:14:52.560 give me your goat? Like top three fighters ever ever 0:14:53.040 --> 0:14:55.920 since since you've been watching, since I've been watching. All right, 0:14:56.320 --> 0:15:00.080 I gotta put and the Silva in now. And the 0:15:00.120 --> 0:15:03.640 guyho broke his leg right, yeah, he broy he raws. Fuck. 0:15:06.680 --> 0:15:08.720 This is gonna be controversial. I'm gonna put John Jones 0:15:08.760 --> 0:15:11.840 up there. Shout out to John Jones. He loves cocaine. 0:15:11.960 --> 0:15:16.239 Cannot cannot shout out John. This is documented by the 0:15:16.440 --> 0:15:22.640 and as of right now recently Style Style Bender. Yeah, 0:15:22.680 --> 0:15:26.080 those my three. But when it comes down to like overall, 0:15:26.160 --> 0:15:28.040 like I have a lot of favorite fighters that are 0:15:28.080 --> 0:15:31.880 like in a women's division, it's Valentina Shipchenko, like she'd 0:15:31.880 --> 0:15:34.880 be fucking people up. Like there was a match where 0:15:34.920 --> 0:15:37.920 she was fucking lady up so bad. I was waiting 0:15:37.920 --> 0:15:39.640 for the referee to stop it. The man would not 0:15:39.680 --> 0:15:41.600 stop it. It took her to choke the girl out. 0:15:41.840 --> 0:15:43.720 Some of those are her to stop for him to 0:15:43.760 --> 0:15:46.800 stop the match. I forget which which female fight it 0:15:46.920 --> 0:15:48.600 was that I think it was last year, the year 0:15:48.640 --> 0:15:53.720 before where the girl's head was lumped. Oh yeah remember that? 0:15:53.840 --> 0:15:56.680 Hell yeah, I was like, oh wait, wait this happened 0:15:56.760 --> 0:15:58.880 last year, right, Yeah, I was actually at that fight. 0:15:59.000 --> 0:16:01.640 I know this happened two years ago. Yeah, it was 0:16:01.680 --> 0:16:02.960 like it was like a year or two ago. Yeah, 0:16:03.120 --> 0:16:06.080 it happened in twenty twenty before the whole pandemic. Yo, 0:16:06.320 --> 0:16:08.520 that was while he's saying versus Joe Wan and Joe 0:16:08.560 --> 0:16:10.760 Jake check, I remember that fight. I was dead that fight. 0:16:10.840 --> 0:16:13.760 I was watching that fight. Her head was I was like, 0:16:13.800 --> 0:16:15.680 there is she gonna be all right? Like yo, she 0:16:15.880 --> 0:16:18.760 was Okay, that went back to normal. But that was 0:16:18.760 --> 0:16:20.560 one of the best fights I've ever seen in the 0:16:20.560 --> 0:16:24.720 women's division ever. That shit's crazy. That kind of head 0:16:24.760 --> 0:16:27.760 trauma can't be I don't know, man, That's why I 0:16:27.840 --> 0:16:31.480 mean I think, like, uh, I feel like fighters peaks 0:16:31.480 --> 0:16:35.840 are usually shorter than like any other type of athlete. 0:16:36.120 --> 0:16:37.720 You know, you'll you'll, yeah, there's a lot of wear 0:16:37.720 --> 0:16:39.640 and tear on your box like a short peak. Like 0:16:39.680 --> 0:16:41.360 even if you can think of like Connor McGregor, like 0:16:41.400 --> 0:16:44.240 what he probably have like a four year runs like that, 0:16:44.240 --> 0:16:46.640 that dude and then they you know, I feel like 0:16:46.680 --> 0:16:48.760 he's still the name, he's still the draw, he's still 0:16:48.800 --> 0:16:50.840 going to sell pay per views. But like in terms 0:16:50.880 --> 0:16:54.560 of like he's you know, he's he's lost or whatever. 0:16:54.600 --> 0:16:57.320 He's lost. He's been losing, right, Yeah, but I'm a 0:16:57.360 --> 0:16:59.920 fan of his striking. You know, it's kind of hard 0:17:00.200 --> 0:17:03.080 when you're a striker, Like wrestlers is like the answer 0:17:03.160 --> 0:17:06.800 to that. So if you're a striker, a bad matchup 0:17:06.840 --> 0:17:09.040 for you is a wrestler against a wrestler. They'll tire 0:17:09.080 --> 0:17:11.920 you out. Is that what happened with the Maga Dude 0:17:11.960 --> 0:17:16.080 and Jorge Mazudal. Yeah, you know what's crazy? Yeah? I 0:17:16.080 --> 0:17:18.159 think so because he has wrestling on his side, you 0:17:18.240 --> 0:17:21.000 know what I mean? And Mazdal is a striker, you 0:17:21.000 --> 0:17:25.720 give me, so between that matchup, you know, I would 0:17:25.920 --> 0:17:27.800 love to go for Mazadal. I would love for him 0:17:27.840 --> 0:17:29.639 to win, but I knew Kobe was gonna win because 0:17:29.840 --> 0:17:34.439 he got wrestling, Like wrestlers are strong man, strong people. 0:17:35.160 --> 0:17:37.439 On this album, I feel like there's some moments that 0:17:37.480 --> 0:17:43.760 are extremely vulnerable, extremely honest. Like I guess for you, 0:17:43.840 --> 0:17:48.280 like how much of this album was like you had 0:17:48.280 --> 0:17:50.240 to get some shit off your chest. I guess all 0:17:50.240 --> 0:17:52.760 of it, yeah, because it felt that way, especially the intro, 0:17:53.720 --> 0:17:56.439 like that was just laying my demons out on front street, 0:17:56.840 --> 0:17:59.840 like all my flaws out front off the rib. Yeah. 0:18:00.040 --> 0:18:01.960 I don't want a sugarcoat shit. I know where I 0:18:02.000 --> 0:18:04.600 fuck up at. You feel me, So I wanted to 0:18:04.600 --> 0:18:06.440 put that on front streets so people know, like, hey, 0:18:06.480 --> 0:18:08.560 I'm human, like I be doing fucked up shit and 0:18:08.600 --> 0:18:11.359 I'll be going through fucked up shit. You know that 0:18:11.440 --> 0:18:14.520 doesn't mean I can't change. That doesn't mean you can't 0:18:14.600 --> 0:18:17.080 change either. If you did something, if you made bad 0:18:17.160 --> 0:18:19.760 choices in your day, that doesn't stop you from making 0:18:19.800 --> 0:18:22.360 good choices later. You know what I mean. That's real. 0:18:22.520 --> 0:18:25.320 And I just wanted to show my self on front 0:18:25.320 --> 0:18:28.680 street where I didn't hide behind clever bars or I 0:18:28.720 --> 0:18:33.200 didn't hide behind a personality. I just wanted to show you, Denzel. Yeah, yeah, 0:18:33.240 --> 0:18:35.560 one hundred percent. Now that's what it felt like. What 0:18:35.640 --> 0:18:39.359 are the things that like? Because you obviously had a 0:18:39.520 --> 0:18:43.480 crazy I mean, what's it been about ten years? Ten 0:18:43.520 --> 0:18:46.520 year run? Yeah, and you still are here. You're still 0:18:46.800 --> 0:18:50.480 very successful, more successful than ever, You're still very relevant. 0:18:51.040 --> 0:18:53.919 You're saying you're not, you know you you know some 0:18:53.960 --> 0:18:56.439 people ten years in you could tell like this is 0:18:56.440 --> 0:18:58.720 an industry been good on you, you you know what I mean. 0:18:59.280 --> 0:19:01.639 One of the things that you've obviously you you mentioned 0:19:02.040 --> 0:19:05.200 mult typing form of therapy, but is there anything else 0:19:05.240 --> 0:19:07.280 that you've kind of been able to adapt to just 0:19:07.320 --> 0:19:09.480 kind of help you deal with just the anxiety or 0:19:09.520 --> 0:19:11.959 just the pressures of being an artist or just like 0:19:12.000 --> 0:19:15.240 when you're feeling down throughout my time through a quarantine 0:19:15.240 --> 0:19:18.280 and stuff like that. Actual therapy was helping me, like 0:19:18.359 --> 0:19:21.639 talking to a therapist, talking actually to a therapist. Was 0:19:21.680 --> 0:19:24.440 it on zoom? It was? Sometimes it was on zoom 0:19:24.440 --> 0:19:26.159 and sometimes it was in person, but I would have 0:19:26.160 --> 0:19:27.960 to wear a mask and I will have to get 0:19:27.960 --> 0:19:30.720 the little click at that. Yeah, like oh you got 0:19:30.720 --> 0:19:34.879 a regular temperature. But yeah, it was that. It was 0:19:34.960 --> 0:19:37.960 martial arts, and it was just being close with God, 0:19:38.080 --> 0:19:40.359 like trying to like find your connection back with God 0:19:40.840 --> 0:19:44.040 and writing writing on his album. That helps a lot, 0:19:44.119 --> 0:19:45.879 you know what I mean. Yeah, Right, it's kind of 0:19:45.880 --> 0:19:48.199 like a journal type thing, right, Yeah, it was like 0:19:48.320 --> 0:19:51.960 diary entries. Yeah, now that you were saying you do 0:19:52.000 --> 0:19:54.400 hot yoga too, we were talking about hot yoga. Man, Hey, 0:19:54.440 --> 0:19:56.600 you can't be just putting a ship out on front street. 0:19:58.640 --> 0:20:01.680 Was so passionate about yoga. Yes, today I just fuck 0:20:01.760 --> 0:20:05.560 with you, but yeah, but hi, yoga is the ship? 0:20:06.320 --> 0:20:07.800 How Yah? I want to do I want to try 0:20:07.800 --> 0:20:10.480 that and I want to try a sensory deprivation tank. 0:20:10.760 --> 0:20:13.359 That's when you sit in like a tank and the 0:20:13.359 --> 0:20:17.000 water water. I heard like, if you sit in that ship, 0:20:17.080 --> 0:20:20.200 even if you're hallucinating. Yeah, even if you're not on anything, 0:20:20.720 --> 0:20:24.080 you could it's like a natural like hallosing it. I 0:20:24.119 --> 0:20:27.240 don't know, yeah it is. I mean the rapper you 0:20:27.280 --> 0:20:29.800 know who Daylight is? Yeah, of course, yeah. Daylight was 0:20:29.800 --> 0:20:33.159 telling me about that ship years ago. It was like 0:20:33.240 --> 0:20:36.040 sensory deprivation to Daylight. Shout out the Daylight Light. It's 0:20:36.040 --> 0:20:38.480 an amazing MC. Yeah. You know what's crazy. Me and 0:20:38.560 --> 0:20:40.720 him are ten years apart, and his birthday is like 0:20:40.760 --> 0:20:43.680 a few days before. My nice guy too, super nice guy. 0:20:44.160 --> 0:20:46.200 I remember in Phoenix he had a battle at the 0:20:46.240 --> 0:20:48.840 Celebrity Theater and he had on stage, which was interesting. 0:20:48.880 --> 0:20:51.480 Way you was there for that? I was not there, 0:20:51.520 --> 0:20:53.360 but all my friends. I'm from Phoenix, so I had 0:20:53.359 --> 0:20:55.400 like seven in my homies, like yo, bro, we're at 0:20:55.400 --> 0:20:57.840 this fucking battle and dude started shipping on. I was like, 0:20:58.000 --> 0:21:04.320 what the Spawn? You know what's crazy? Nobody knows that's 0:21:04.359 --> 0:21:08.280 where his own face tattoo came from. Yes, it's chapel 0:21:08.320 --> 0:21:11.960 from Spawn. Yeah, hey, shout out to Spawn. You know 0:21:11.960 --> 0:21:14.359 what's crazy. I heard they're remaking. They're gonna do a 0:21:14.359 --> 0:21:17.160 new Spawn movie. They should because the first one was good, 0:21:17.160 --> 0:21:19.360 but it wasn't like great. Yeah, they're saying they're trying 0:21:19.359 --> 0:21:26.399 to get Jamie Foxx for it. I don't know about that. 0:21:26.960 --> 0:21:30.199 You don't think so maybe the first one. I was 0:21:30.280 --> 0:21:32.280 like as a kid, I was like, yeah, it's far. 0:21:32.600 --> 0:21:34.919 As an adult, I'm like, this ain't that far. Just 0:21:35.000 --> 0:21:38.439 like that movie right there, Belly, when you When I 0:21:38.480 --> 0:21:39.920 was a kid, it was the best movie ever. And 0:21:39.960 --> 0:21:41.840 then when I like really started like find out about 0:21:41.880 --> 0:21:44.120 like you know what cinema like, I'm like, Okay, visually 0:21:44.160 --> 0:21:48.320 it's amazing. Just the story the story of Belly is terrible, 0:21:48.440 --> 0:21:50.680 super terrible. But you watch it and it's like there's 0:21:50.800 --> 0:21:53.639 moments in the movie that are like iconic and like 0:21:53.680 --> 0:21:55.440 that's all that Like as like a ten year old 0:21:55.440 --> 0:21:59.919 who's favorite from the actual movie Yeah, like the end 0:22:00.480 --> 0:22:02.320 where they come in and the shits in their eyes 0:22:02.359 --> 0:22:04.400 and they get the guns from the toilet. But it's 0:22:04.440 --> 0:22:09.400 probably the in my opinion, the best worst movie ever 0:22:11.359 --> 0:22:14.240 for nostalgia purposes. There are movies that are like that, 0:22:14.400 --> 0:22:16.520 like the best worst movie. Oh, there's a lot of 0:22:16.800 --> 0:22:21.160 shitty good movies. I guess we'll call them shitty. What's 0:22:21.200 --> 0:22:26.040 another one? Damn, what's another one? Every movie Matthew McConaughey 0:22:26.040 --> 0:22:29.600 has been in except Dallas Spiders Club. You know, I 0:22:29.680 --> 0:22:32.880 never got into Matthew McConaughey movies. Man, shit. I used 0:22:32.920 --> 0:22:35.240 to think Dared Deevil like that move is wraw until 0:22:35.280 --> 0:22:37.480 I realized, like, I don't like the way that Ben 0:22:37.480 --> 0:22:41.560 Affleck acts. He's in a lot of those movies we're 0:22:41.560 --> 0:22:43.639 talking about. Yeah, he's in a lot of those except 0:22:43.640 --> 0:22:46.320 The Town. The Town was Raw. I give him the 0:22:46.359 --> 0:22:49.359 Town shout out to the homie Slain. Yeah, The Town 0:22:49.520 --> 0:22:52.960 was Crazy. Jeelie with j Lo they say is like 0:22:52.960 --> 0:22:56.160 the worst movie ever. But I as a kid, because 0:22:56.160 --> 0:22:58.560 I used to be obsessed with Jlo, I was like, 0:22:58.680 --> 0:23:01.359 I don't get it. It's it's not terrible, but Belly 0:23:01.520 --> 0:23:05.320 definitely terrible, not as bad as Belly Too. Belly was 0:23:06.200 --> 0:23:09.760 starring the Game Terrible. I thought Boozie was in that movie. 0:23:10.520 --> 0:23:13.320 I hope he is. I don't remember it was starting 0:23:13.320 --> 0:23:16.520 a game. Oh my god. If Boozy was in there 0:23:16.600 --> 0:23:19.920 and didn't make the fucking VHS cover because I had it. 0:23:20.119 --> 0:23:23.920 I've never seen Belly Too, so I can't even tell you. Yeah, 0:23:23.920 --> 0:23:26.240 that's not it. I wonder if they just it was 0:23:26.280 --> 0:23:28.680 like simon a shot out on their iPhone or I 0:23:28.720 --> 0:23:30.680 don't know. This was like twelve years ago. Shout out 0:23:30.680 --> 0:23:33.879 to BELLI. Yeah, movies would rap present them. You know 0:23:33.920 --> 0:23:37.840 what movie I like that guy. I like Get Richard, 0:23:37.880 --> 0:23:40.840 I Tria solid movie. That's a solid movie. I like 0:23:41.240 --> 0:23:45.400 South Paul, South Paul. Those are fifty cent movies, right, yeah, 0:23:45.480 --> 0:23:48.080 I mean eight Mile was good, but then great we 0:23:48.160 --> 0:23:50.400 just went through. We just talked about this the other day. 0:23:50.720 --> 0:23:52.919 There were so many random Like when I was growing up, 0:23:53.000 --> 0:23:56.560 they used to just put shit out and and like 0:23:56.640 --> 0:23:59.560 there was a movie called Ticker and it was Nas 0:23:59.640 --> 0:24:02.960 and Steven Sigall and this other dude. But they had 0:24:03.080 --> 0:24:05.000 Nas front and center on the cover, like he had 0:24:05.000 --> 0:24:07.120 a real part in the movie. It was like starring 0:24:07.160 --> 0:24:08.840 and it said Nas right in the middle, and I 0:24:08.880 --> 0:24:10.520 was like, Na's my favorite rapper, right, so I buy 0:24:10.600 --> 0:24:13.919 the fucking dvd. El Mads my ship. He's in the 0:24:13.960 --> 0:24:18.520 movie for thirty seconds. Dead ass, dead ass. But Steven Saga. 0:24:18.760 --> 0:24:20.920 It's Steven Sagall, Nas and some other guy. But it 0:24:21.040 --> 0:24:24.040 was like the cover of the movie, it's just Nas. 0:24:24.200 --> 0:24:25.880 Steven Saga is on the left and this other white 0:24:25.960 --> 0:24:28.480 dud's on the right. So you're thinking, oh, shit, Nas 0:24:28.560 --> 0:24:31.439 is in this motherfucker lest go Hey, Romeo Must Die 0:24:31.560 --> 0:24:34.439 was hard. DMX Exit Wounds was fire too. Oh that 0:24:34.480 --> 0:24:36.480 shit was hard. Cradle to the Grave was hard. The 0:24:36.480 --> 0:24:39.920 Grave was fire. Then there's like random ones like, uh, 0:24:40.040 --> 0:24:43.040 you know, yeah, there's a lot shout out to uh 0:24:43.119 --> 0:24:46.960 Killer Season Cameron. Yeah, Killer Season was funny. That master 0:24:47.000 --> 0:24:49.320 P shit, I got the hook in my back, b 0:24:49.920 --> 0:24:52.480 I got the hookup. Master P was solid. Master P 0:24:52.600 --> 0:24:55.000 had I had a little wave with the movies for me. 0:24:55.160 --> 0:24:58.680 You make that movie Hot Boys with Silt the Shaka, Yeah, 0:24:59.440 --> 0:25:04.600 that shit, Soak the Shocker, best worst rapper ever. It 0:25:04.600 --> 0:25:07.240 ain't my fault as my shit, best worst rapper ever, 0:25:07.359 --> 0:25:09.440 it ain't my fault. It's pretty hard. Quite possibly the 0:25:09.480 --> 0:25:13.200 Belly of Rappers Soak the Shocker. I ain't gonna sit 0:25:13.200 --> 0:25:16.760 here and don't and I want to interview him because 0:25:16.760 --> 0:25:18.080 I really would like to just talk to him and 0:25:18.119 --> 0:25:20.439 be like, dude, there was like ninety days when I 0:25:20.480 --> 0:25:22.520 was eleven, I thought you're the greatest rapper alive because 0:25:22.520 --> 0:25:24.959 I had a no limit chain and I had one 0:25:25.000 --> 0:25:27.879 of those from the middle of the mall. I had 0:25:27.880 --> 0:25:30.119 a no limit chain and a Wu Tang chain, had 0:25:30.119 --> 0:25:33.400 a Wu Tang chin. Yeah, they were like twelve dollars 0:25:33.880 --> 0:25:36.880 turned green. Have you seen the new Batman movie? Nah? 0:25:36.960 --> 0:25:39.360 Not yet. Don't spoil it. Okay, okay, it's really good, 0:25:39.680 --> 0:25:43.400 but don't spoil it. I won't you seen Doom? No, no, 0:25:43.520 --> 0:25:48.600 it's everyone. Everyone who's seen it that I know says 0:25:48.760 --> 0:25:51.600 it's very Uh it's just like one of those movies 0:25:51.640 --> 0:25:53.399 where you're like forty five minutes in and you're like, 0:25:53.400 --> 0:25:55.680 what the fuck is even going on right now? It's 0:25:55.720 --> 0:25:58.240 not like that, though I haven't watched it. Don't knock 0:25:58.280 --> 0:26:02.320 until you tried it. Did you play the game Dune? Yeah? No, 0:26:02.840 --> 0:26:05.720 I don't know. I don't know. Dune was a game. 0:26:06.320 --> 0:26:09.840 It was it was a game. You're saying Doom, Dune, 0:26:10.760 --> 0:26:13.960 do any doom? Doom was a game. Doom was a game, 0:26:14.040 --> 0:26:16.480 so it was done. Doune was a book. It was 0:26:16.520 --> 0:26:21.560 a game on PC? Was it? Yes? Google that ship. 0:26:21.760 --> 0:26:23.919 Maybe I'm tripping Dune the game. It was like a 0:26:23.960 --> 0:26:28.080 PC game. Eat yourselb was in it? Right? What? Wait? 0:26:28.160 --> 0:26:30.440 And what in Doom? Isn't he in Dune? Hell no? 0:26:30.920 --> 0:26:34.760 Then I know it's a book. It's on HBO max 0:26:34.840 --> 0:26:38.320 right now. It was on HBO Max. Isn't it a game? 0:26:39.359 --> 0:26:43.240 It is? They have a bunch of games. It's a 0:26:43.240 --> 0:26:47.360 PC game from the nineties. Yeah, that's crazy. Now, from 0:26:47.359 --> 0:26:50.600 the nineties. The only games I played on PC was 0:26:50.640 --> 0:26:54.399 like Half Life. Only games I played on PC was 0:26:54.400 --> 0:26:57.440 fucking Oregon Trail. I don't even know what that is. Ship. 0:26:57.800 --> 0:26:59.359 We used to get that free day at school. They 0:26:59.400 --> 0:27:01.760 put you on that with that floppy disc. You play 0:27:01.760 --> 0:27:05.160 that Oregon Trail, you go hunting, kill you a buffalo, 0:27:05.280 --> 0:27:08.200 feed your family until your daughter gets a snake bite 0:27:08.440 --> 0:27:10.760 and then she dies. Oh shit, the goal is to 0:27:10.800 --> 0:27:14.840 get to Oregon. You never played orgon trail? Oh man. 0:27:15.760 --> 0:27:18.520 When I was coming up, motherfuckers was playing Room Escaping. Shit. 0:27:18.600 --> 0:27:22.320 I never played that shit. Yeah, I just I didn't 0:27:22.359 --> 0:27:26.600 have a computer towels like fifteen. So yeah, I never 0:27:26.680 --> 0:27:28.520 got into the online gaming. Did you play? Do you 0:27:28.560 --> 0:27:31.440 do game now? Like on the PC or on the 0:27:31.800 --> 0:27:34.600 NAH play on the PlayStation? You play the PlayStation? Yeah? 0:27:34.640 --> 0:27:40.399 What is your go to? Ghosta Tsushima? Yo? So I 0:27:40.440 --> 0:27:42.679 don't have time for anything in life. So I have 0:27:42.760 --> 0:27:46.120 this thing where I buy games and I just don't play. 0:27:46.280 --> 0:27:48.600 So I have like every I mean, my son plays them. 0:27:48.640 --> 0:27:50.280 So shout to my son aiden. I mean, I see 0:27:50.320 --> 0:27:53.000 you play the Mortal Kombat because you got in your here. Yeah, 0:27:53.040 --> 0:27:55.359 I mean it's but that's legendary though, Like who doesn't 0:27:55.359 --> 0:27:58.080 play Mortal Kombat? Right? But that game I bought it 0:27:58.359 --> 0:28:00.879 and it's the one game I haven't That game and 0:28:00.920 --> 0:28:04.320 the Spider Man game I haven't touched yet. The Spider 0:28:04.400 --> 0:28:06.239 Man game is pretty five, I know. So those are 0:28:06.280 --> 0:28:08.840 like the two games like whenever I have time to breathe, 0:28:08.880 --> 0:28:11.000 I want to try to play. My son says that that, 0:28:11.080 --> 0:28:13.240 but you never played a New More to Combat. H 0:28:13.240 --> 0:28:15.080 I played with my kid. That's easy though, that's easy 0:28:15.080 --> 0:28:17.160 to hop in do some matches and you know, yeah, 0:28:17.280 --> 0:28:19.840 the other ship you gotta really be that the ghost 0:28:19.880 --> 0:28:21.760 of what is it, ghost of Sushimo? That ship you 0:28:21.800 --> 0:28:24.560 gotta be committed to. That ship is hard Bro, because 0:28:24.560 --> 0:28:26.200 this is a whole story. My sens it might be 0:28:26.240 --> 0:28:28.120 the best game ever. Is one of the best games. 0:28:28.160 --> 0:28:29.560 I ain't gonna say it's the best game. He's like, 0:28:29.600 --> 0:28:32.080 it's up there. You know. For me, it's because you 0:28:32.160 --> 0:28:34.359 got that New Guy Award that came out first the 0:28:34.400 --> 0:28:36.840 first Meddle. Gear Solid is my favorite game ever. I 0:28:36.880 --> 0:28:39.680 never played Metal Solid, never played it. I know who 0:28:39.960 --> 0:28:42.680 Snake is and everything, but I never played Metal First 0:28:42.680 --> 0:28:46.480 one Bro. Super Smash Brothers is my ship. Super Smash Bros. 0:28:46.520 --> 0:28:51.400 Is amazing. Yeah. I think there's a new game, is 0:28:51.440 --> 0:28:55.040 it elder Ring? I heard? I heard about that. It's 0:28:55.040 --> 0:28:57.560 supposed to be coming out, right, Eldon elden Ring? Or No, 0:28:57.720 --> 0:29:00.560 it's out someone we just knew who saying that they're 0:29:00.600 --> 0:29:03.200 playing it. Oh, Big Crit last night was telling us, 0:29:03.200 --> 0:29:05.360 he's like, I'm addicted to this show. That's another person 0:29:05.400 --> 0:29:07.200 who don't get the credit they deserve. I told him 0:29:07.240 --> 0:29:09.160 that yesterday. I said, Hey, Krit, for what it's worth, 0:29:09.200 --> 0:29:11.360 you're one of the greatest rappers of all time. Did 0:29:11.400 --> 0:29:13.960 you not hear? Krit was here well, Returning Forever we 0:29:14.000 --> 0:29:15.920 have Qrit was here on Vinyl. I was in high 0:29:15.920 --> 0:29:18.520 school bumping that shit. Of course, no trust me. I 0:29:18.600 --> 0:29:21.120 started liking Big crit you know. I ain't gonna say 0:29:21.160 --> 0:29:23.640 I listened to him, nah, But when I was listening 0:29:23.680 --> 0:29:28.640 to him like Glasshouse on Wizard's Project on Cushion Orange Juice, 0:29:28.960 --> 0:29:31.680 shit was hard. And then he came out with that 0:29:31.880 --> 0:29:35.360 Krit was here, and he came out with the Returner Forever. 0:29:35.720 --> 0:29:38.240 Returner Forever was my That's my favorite one. That was 0:29:38.560 --> 0:29:40.960 one of the best albums of that year whatever that 0:29:41.840 --> 0:29:44.480 it was, twenty ten, It's probably one of my favorite 0:29:44.480 --> 0:29:47.640 albums of the twenty tens. Shout out to Krit. Yeah, yeah, 0:29:47.640 --> 0:29:49.520 we had a dope interview yesterday. Yo. We got to 0:29:49.520 --> 0:29:51.240 take a break in the interview real quick. Tell you 0:29:51.280 --> 0:29:53.840 about our folks at my bookie. 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It's crazy because you're like you 0:31:05.640 --> 0:31:08.200 were kind of class of hip hop. You were like 0:31:08.560 --> 0:31:14.600 right before a lot of you know, you were on 0:31:14.640 --> 0:31:16.800 the same shows with a lot of these kids. I 0:31:16.800 --> 0:31:19.800 think the first big show I might have saw you 0:31:19.920 --> 0:31:26.280 on was the first or second Rolling Loud? Was it 0:31:26.320 --> 0:31:29.080 the second Rolling Loud? There was like a second, Yeah, 0:31:29.080 --> 0:31:31.520 it was the second Rolling Loud I DJed. It was 0:31:31.560 --> 0:31:34.160 the one that was in Winwood. Mmm. And that was 0:31:34.160 --> 0:31:36.320 the first one. No, that was the second one. That 0:31:36.360 --> 0:31:38.080 was the first one, No, because I didn't It was 0:31:38.160 --> 0:31:40.520 two of them. Well, the first one had Schoolboy Q headlining, 0:31:40.760 --> 0:31:43.000 uh and Travis. Yeah, I didn't go to that one. 0:31:43.000 --> 0:31:45.440 I was. That was the one that rained. Yeah, yeah, 0:31:45.520 --> 0:31:48.240 my cousin was working a dope. The second one I 0:31:48.400 --> 0:31:50.200 DJ'ed at, And that was the one. It was a 0:31:50.200 --> 0:31:53.800 little Way in the Future headlining, and it was in Windwood. 0:31:53.880 --> 0:31:58.040 That was in twenty sixteen or fifteen, only sixteen sixteen. 0:31:58.080 --> 0:32:01.360 It was twenty sixteen, twenty sixteen, Yeah, twenty fifteen. But 0:32:01.400 --> 0:32:04.280 you were, you were on the other stage. But it 0:32:04.320 --> 0:32:06.040 was crazy because it was like twenty one. Savage was 0:32:06.080 --> 0:32:07.960 super young, and I remember he was. I think he 0:32:08.000 --> 0:32:10.320 went on before you. But just in terms of like 0:32:10.360 --> 0:32:13.080 the class of like hip hop, you are, like I 0:32:13.080 --> 0:32:17.240 feel like you were kind of like right before when 0:32:17.280 --> 0:32:22.480 things get started to get really, in my opinion, not 0:32:22.600 --> 0:32:25.160 to my liking. I suppose I look at like twenty 0:32:25.200 --> 0:32:29.000 seventeen twenty eighteen, like rap is like the Dark Ages. 0:32:30.000 --> 0:32:32.120 I can't I can't even call it the Dark Ages 0:32:32.120 --> 0:32:34.440 because you got some gems and you no, no, there's gems. 0:32:34.680 --> 0:32:36.680 I'm not saying everything, but in terms of like just 0:32:36.760 --> 0:32:40.040 some of the stuff labels were signing. Oh, you know, 0:32:40.240 --> 0:32:43.840 like we would have like guys like kid Boo coming 0:32:44.320 --> 0:32:46.720 to get to the station, and this guy was like 0:32:46.920 --> 0:32:48.719 the whole reason he got signed is because he went 0:32:48.800 --> 0:32:50.840 viral for saying he was like a clone or like 0:32:51.680 --> 0:32:55.720 there was Instagram kids getting like support. Supreme Patty got 0:32:55.720 --> 0:32:58.080 offered a deal from three hundred. I don't think it 0:32:58.200 --> 0:33:01.600 takes that much to get nowadays, because you just got 0:33:01.600 --> 0:33:03.520 to have an image and shit and you can make 0:33:03.520 --> 0:33:05.600 a cool song or whatever. But my thing is is, 0:33:05.640 --> 0:33:09.800 like I feel like twenty seventeen, twenty eighteen it was 0:33:09.920 --> 0:33:14.080 rough because I would just be like, what the fuck 0:33:14.120 --> 0:33:16.760 are these labels seeing in some of these like it 0:33:16.800 --> 0:33:20.520 was just the Cloud era, Yeah that's what he era, 0:33:20.960 --> 0:33:24.000 peak Cloud era. Man, it was the Cloud era, And 0:33:24.040 --> 0:33:27.200 I'm so glad that it like kind of has faded 0:33:27.240 --> 0:33:30.440 away a bit. It was the way it faded out 0:33:30.600 --> 0:33:33.560 was pretty horrible. What do you mean, like people dying 0:33:33.600 --> 0:33:36.640 from overdose? Oh yeah, yeah, you know what I'm saying. 0:33:37.120 --> 0:33:40.160 I think the cloud era usher back in the gangster 0:33:40.240 --> 0:33:43.480 rap era, because right now, like I feel like this 0:33:43.560 --> 0:33:45.800 is a gangster rap era. It's like happening all over again. 0:33:45.840 --> 0:33:49.200 I think about EStG and Yo and like, I mean 0:33:49.240 --> 0:33:51.000 a lot of those guys, they're the biggest dudes, are 0:33:51.000 --> 0:33:55.360 getting biggest bags. Dirk, you know, we can go. But yeah, 0:33:55.400 --> 0:33:59.160 it's crazy because you're like, you probably knew a lot 0:33:59.160 --> 0:34:02.760 of these dudes, and I you know, just in terms 0:34:02.800 --> 0:34:07.400 of like the drug shit and hip hop. Man, it 0:34:07.440 --> 0:34:09.520 was it was just it's just crazy to think of 0:34:09.520 --> 0:34:11.640 all the talent that we lost over the last I 0:34:11.680 --> 0:34:14.319 mean a lot of these guys that you know that 0:34:14.400 --> 0:34:16.479 we lost in hip hop were guys that I met 0:34:16.520 --> 0:34:19.120 back in the day. I mean, X, if you know 0:34:19.200 --> 0:34:21.640 our history, X used to live with me. There's one 0:34:22.200 --> 0:34:24.080 you know we lost. What year was that that was? 0:34:25.080 --> 0:34:27.880 X lived with me in twenty sixteen and then he 0:34:27.920 --> 0:34:30.479 started to living with Bruno in like twenty seventeen around 0:34:30.520 --> 0:34:33.160 that time, and then he blew up. Well, actually it 0:34:33.160 --> 0:34:35.879 was later that year. It was like twenty sixteen, twenty seventeen. Yeah, 0:34:35.920 --> 0:34:37.840 So for people who don't know, because I'm not totally 0:34:39.040 --> 0:34:41.200 hip to I knew you guys were cool, but like, 0:34:41.400 --> 0:34:43.239 give me the history of you and X, because at 0:34:43.239 --> 0:34:46.319 that time, I'm sure, I mean, I would get into it. Yeah, 0:34:46.320 --> 0:34:50.120 but you know, I've talked to everybody about like, you know, 0:34:50.239 --> 0:34:52.439 Ex's legacy, and I'm just trying to build my own shit. 0:34:52.520 --> 0:34:54.120 You know, I respect that. I respect that. I know 0:34:54.280 --> 0:34:58.359 everybody know tons of information about X already. That's fair. 0:34:58.440 --> 0:35:01.760 That's fair. Feel what I'm saying, like actually recycled stories 0:35:01.800 --> 0:35:04.400 about X nowadays because they want to know more about him. 0:35:04.440 --> 0:35:07.120 But my time with him is what I told other 0:35:07.200 --> 0:35:10.960 interviewers and ship. So what about the biggest misconception about him? 0:35:11.280 --> 0:35:12.960 You live with somebody, you really get to know him, 0:35:12.960 --> 0:35:19.640 you know, I mean shit, like what you see is 0:35:19.680 --> 0:35:22.879 what you get. That's whatever you saw is what you got, 0:35:23.000 --> 0:35:27.359 That's how he was. How do you feel about where 0:35:27.360 --> 0:35:29.319 Florida is right now in the game, because now I 0:35:29.320 --> 0:35:31.440 feel like it's not only I mean, before it was 0:35:31.440 --> 0:35:36.359 like Miami Dade County, you know, Uh, it was really 0:35:36.360 --> 0:35:40.279 a Southern Florida, South Florida vibe that was holding down 0:35:40.320 --> 0:35:43.680 the state. But now the whole state is lit. Yeah, 0:35:43.719 --> 0:35:47.480 the whole state is. Lando's popping, JAP, Tampa's on the 0:35:47.840 --> 0:35:49.440 way up. You know. There's some artists in Tampa that 0:35:49.440 --> 0:35:50.840 are dope. But yeah, like you ever heard of I 0:35:50.880 --> 0:35:53.359 am Doci? I heard of him? Yeah, I am dot. 0:35:53.400 --> 0:35:56.359 She is girl, but like, wait, I am do she's 0:35:56.400 --> 0:35:59.160 a girl. She I think she's on TD now right now. 0:35:59.440 --> 0:36:02.440 That's the they just signed. Yeah, they just signed her 0:36:02.480 --> 0:36:04.440 like a week ago, right, I don't think it was 0:36:04.440 --> 0:36:06.600 a week ago, but but they just announced it. They 0:36:06.600 --> 0:36:08.440 signed her, Oh they did. Yeah, I think they just 0:36:08.480 --> 0:36:11.200 announced it. But yeah, she straight out of Tampa too. 0:36:11.239 --> 0:36:13.040 Like you know what I'm saying. I remember when I 0:36:13.080 --> 0:36:15.239 first met her and she was like, I came to 0:36:15.320 --> 0:36:17.600 your show back in like two thousand and something. I 0:36:17.680 --> 0:36:21.240 was like, what was the keyboard City shows were crazy? Yeah, 0:36:21.280 --> 0:36:23.480 So I was just thinking to myself, like damn. But 0:36:23.560 --> 0:36:25.560 the fact that Florida's on the rise right now, like 0:36:25.600 --> 0:36:27.600 I just embraced it all. You get what I'm saying, 0:36:28.040 --> 0:36:30.279 It's not just South Florida doing something. You feel me 0:36:30.719 --> 0:36:33.359 like just opening that door for Florida, regardless of how 0:36:33.400 --> 0:36:35.600 it sounds like. It could be ratchet, it could be 0:36:35.600 --> 0:36:38.240 beef and whatever it is, right, you know what I'm saying. 0:36:38.360 --> 0:36:40.279 You know you got Glock nine, you got hot Boy, 0:36:40.320 --> 0:36:42.880 you got spot and got him, you got Young and Knae, 0:36:42.920 --> 0:36:48.680 Julio the shop Spinner bends. Uh. You know what I'm saying. 0:36:49.400 --> 0:36:52.480 I am Doci Caliban Duda from Tampa's Dope. Yeah, you 0:36:52.560 --> 0:36:55.200 got all these people that's going on. You know what 0:36:55.239 --> 0:36:57.719 I'm saying. It's crazy as fun when you realize a 0:36:57.719 --> 0:36:59.920 lot of these guys the Wave Rod Wave is tight 0:37:00.120 --> 0:37:04.120 to Saint Pete. It's crazy because he's such a star. 0:37:05.160 --> 0:37:06.880 I just be forgetting he's from saintetecause I lived in 0:37:06.920 --> 0:37:09.200 Saint Pete for three It's is crazy. I got family 0:37:09.200 --> 0:37:12.560 in Saint Pete. Shout out to Saint Pete. Man, it's 0:37:12.560 --> 0:37:16.000 a vibe until it's not. I think Florida is a 0:37:16.080 --> 0:37:19.799 vibe into it. That's the thing. Is like when you're 0:37:19.840 --> 0:37:23.360 from Miami, like we don't associate with the rest of Florida. 0:37:23.360 --> 0:37:26.200 It's so funny. That's real. I mean the Miami. I mean, 0:37:26.280 --> 0:37:29.839 I feel like Miami is such a melting pot. It's 0:37:29.880 --> 0:37:32.600 really like only a few other places that remind me 0:37:32.680 --> 0:37:36.680 of like just the like New York is like that. 0:37:36.840 --> 0:37:39.000 Like depending on where you are in New York, you're like, Oh, 0:37:39.040 --> 0:37:44.239 I'm Miami is so little Haiti, there's the Cuban there. 0:37:44.280 --> 0:37:47.000 I mean, it's just it's just such a It's such 0:37:47.040 --> 0:37:50.080 a dope. There's so much culture in Miami. It's like, 0:37:50.280 --> 0:37:51.640 you know, a lot of people wouldn't even expect that 0:37:51.640 --> 0:37:53.120 because they just think of the beach and they think 0:37:53.200 --> 0:37:56.160 of like Vice South Beach. You know, Miami is a 0:37:56.200 --> 0:37:59.239 wholes It's like a cultural hub for a lot of 0:37:59.440 --> 0:38:01.400 a lot of people. Like I love my It's my 0:38:01.440 --> 0:38:04.439 favorite city in the United States besides my hometown. Yeah. 0:38:04.520 --> 0:38:07.440 And oh, I can't forget play that Boy's Day. That's 0:38:07.480 --> 0:38:10.440 my boy. He coming out the city. He raw too. Yo. 0:38:11.360 --> 0:38:14.560 It was dope when you and Ross ended up finally 0:38:14.560 --> 0:38:18.920 working together, because it was dope to see Ross embrace 0:38:20.200 --> 0:38:22.799 the newer generation of what's going on in Miami. How 0:38:22.840 --> 0:38:25.160 important was that for you? Just like I mean, I 0:38:25.280 --> 0:38:26.839 just felt like it was a passing of the torch 0:38:26.840 --> 0:38:28.520 and ship, you know what I'm saying with Ross, But 0:38:28.640 --> 0:38:30.879 Ross still got stuff in the chamber that like, he's 0:38:30.920 --> 0:38:33.759 still doing stuff, you know what I mean? And you know, 0:38:33.840 --> 0:38:37.520 I've been listening to Ras since he was what po boy, 0:38:37.680 --> 0:38:40.840 you know, like when flow Rider, Bristo and Ross was 0:38:40.880 --> 0:38:43.799 all rolling together and ship. But me and my brothers like, 0:38:44.000 --> 0:38:47.680 we like, we love Ross even we listened to Ross 0:38:47.719 --> 0:38:50.600 like Teflon Dawn Deep in the Wrap, Miami. You we 0:38:50.680 --> 0:38:53.360 are knew Ross. We knew Ross was raw and a 0:38:54.160 --> 0:38:56.279 City Cars album was hard and he was putting on 0:38:56.320 --> 0:38:58.399 for the city. Shout out to Breed, like I fuck 0:38:58.480 --> 0:39:01.799 with Breed gun Play because Breed mess with my boy 0:39:02.320 --> 0:39:06.480 Soldier Living True. That's my nigga Poochie and we pretty 0:39:06.520 --> 0:39:09.279 much like connected through Poocci because we both fuck with 0:39:09.280 --> 0:39:12.360 Poochi heavy Gucci Poochi. Is this the same Pooci that 0:39:12.360 --> 0:39:13.960 you used to manage Ross or is this a different 0:39:13.960 --> 0:39:16.960 poo It's different pooch. Okay, Okay, different poocies in Miami. Yeah, 0:39:16.960 --> 0:39:19.600 but you gotta call him Soldier Living True. So okay, Okay, 0:39:19.960 --> 0:39:21.879 I don't want to mess that up. Don't don't don't 0:39:21.920 --> 0:39:26.640 fuck that up. Shout to Gunplay, though, Gunplay is that motherfucker. 0:39:26.760 --> 0:39:30.279 Gunplay is a rappers rapper, A rappers rapper, rappers rapper. 0:39:30.320 --> 0:39:33.000 You remember that song power Circle? Nah? But I was 0:39:33.719 --> 0:39:36.840 heard take this of course, take this to your brain 0:39:37.800 --> 0:39:40.279 ship where he's got the white girl and he's like, 0:39:41.000 --> 0:39:43.000 I'm like, dude, I show that video to people all 0:39:43.040 --> 0:39:44.600 the time. I'm like, y'all want to see the craziest 0:39:44.640 --> 0:39:47.960 flagrant ass music video. I'm gonna say this gunplay. He's 0:39:47.960 --> 0:39:50.919 talking about being high on coke, he's paranoid his fuck 0:39:50.920 --> 0:39:53.879 In the video, he's got the white chick and he's 0:39:53.920 --> 0:39:55.919 like taking money out of her spand that that ship 0:39:56.040 --> 0:39:58.680 was so crazy. He was like, bitch, we living in hell? 0:39:58.920 --> 0:40:01.240 How to fuck you? To Reverend, I was like, damn 0:40:01.280 --> 0:40:05.160 this raw like gunplay, like listening to that, listening to 0:40:05.280 --> 0:40:08.680 all on you, rolling with Walker Floka single handedly him 0:40:08.680 --> 0:40:10.360 and walka Flocka is the reason why I wanted to 0:40:10.360 --> 0:40:12.480 grow Dredds in the first place. That's crazy, you know 0:40:12.520 --> 0:40:14.439 what I'm saying. The cartoons in Cereal with gun playing 0:40:14.560 --> 0:40:18.040 Hendrick just talk about this shit this morning killed that shit. 0:40:18.120 --> 0:40:21.279 I'm so mad that that's not on DSPs man. That 0:40:21.360 --> 0:40:25.920 ship was so raw, yo, gunplay, Yo, salut, gunplay Man. 0:40:25.960 --> 0:40:28.080 I know he shocked. I know he'd done Yachta Driz, 0:40:28.160 --> 0:40:30.800 but like he had a Yeah, there was a record 0:40:30.800 --> 0:40:33.680 on self Made two called Power Soco was the intro 0:40:33.760 --> 0:40:39.359 and it was Gunplay Ross Stally, Walle, Kendrick and Meek 0:40:39.680 --> 0:40:41.239 and it was just like he kicked it off and 0:40:41.280 --> 0:40:44.000 it was like it's probably my favorite, uh my favorite 0:40:44.040 --> 0:40:48.160 gun play gun Blaby snapping. Yeah, it's I would like 0:40:48.200 --> 0:40:51.880 to see gunplay like do movies or like, I don't know, 0:40:52.040 --> 0:40:56.200 host a podcast or you know, maybe do like the 0:40:56.239 --> 0:40:58.800 sidewalk talk shit that they're doing in New York with Nams, 0:40:58.840 --> 0:41:01.080 the Bing Bong guy, but like have him in Miami, 0:41:01.200 --> 0:41:04.840 like just because he's so he's such a character, like 0:41:04.880 --> 0:41:07.040 he's and he's like a good ass, I mean, very animate. 0:41:07.160 --> 0:41:08.880 He's always been super cool like when I met him. 0:41:08.880 --> 0:41:10.960 So shout out to gunplay. Me the same every time 0:41:10.960 --> 0:41:14.160 I see gun players love you know. So everybody should 0:41:14.160 --> 0:41:16.520 go watch to take this video right now on YouTube. 0:41:16.880 --> 0:41:19.880 And the one thing, the one thing about Gunplay is 0:41:19.960 --> 0:41:22.319 people don't even know like out of Miami rappers, that's 0:41:22.360 --> 0:41:25.920 my favorite Miami rapper. That's crazy. Gunplay is my favorite 0:41:25.920 --> 0:41:28.680 Miami rapper. I like him more than I like Rosso, 0:41:28.840 --> 0:41:32.080 and Ross is talented as fuck. You know what I'm saying, 0:41:32.360 --> 0:41:37.160 best year for beats ever. Maybe it's up there. It 0:41:37.320 --> 0:41:41.040 is up there. But Gunplay is like Rawness, Like that's 0:41:41.560 --> 0:41:45.960 Miami rappers. There's yourself, there's Ross, there's Gunplay obviously, trick Daddy, 0:41:47.280 --> 0:41:52.120 City Girls, shout out to the City girls, Uh kidd o, 0:41:52.239 --> 0:41:57.799 Marv Major nine, who else? There's a lot. There's a 0:41:57.800 --> 0:42:01.160 lot coming out of the city on Bruno, Maley h 0:42:01.560 --> 0:42:05.400 Hood Ace Hood Acehood from Broward Is he from? Yeah? 0:42:05.560 --> 0:42:08.760 From brow Okay, brow County is totally separate, Yeah, because 0:42:08.840 --> 0:42:13.839 that's where Fort Lardale is, right, Yeah, yeah, Okay. I 0:42:13.840 --> 0:42:17.040 gotta still give it to Ross. And I think I 0:42:17.120 --> 0:42:19.399 think Ross is like the tenth best rapper of all time. 0:42:19.400 --> 0:42:21.160 I made a list and I had Ross at number ten, 0:42:21.200 --> 0:42:23.080 And I know that's high for a lot of people, 0:42:23.280 --> 0:42:26.200 that's high. But if you listen to teflon Dawn and 0:42:27.080 --> 0:42:30.120 Oh Deep In to Rap, you can't tell me those 0:42:30.120 --> 0:42:33.720 aren't certified classics. Those are classic ass albums. I agree, 0:42:34.080 --> 0:42:40.120 And I mean just the consistency, bro like he's still 0:42:40.160 --> 0:42:43.640 going the flow is butter. What he brought to the 0:42:43.680 --> 0:42:48.040 game is. I mean, he's in my I always say 0:42:48.120 --> 0:42:52.239 like ten, he's he's top ten, and I put him 0:42:52.239 --> 0:42:54.320 at ten. I like Ross because he brought something different 0:42:54.320 --> 0:42:57.560 to Miami, you know what I'm saying. Definitely, he really 0:42:57.600 --> 0:42:59.560 brought something different really prior to that, Like if you 0:42:59.560 --> 0:43:02.560 think it Daddy Trina, the Slipping Slide era flow Rider, 0:43:02.560 --> 0:43:04.880 that shit was just not like, like I feel like 0:43:05.040 --> 0:43:08.640 Ross embodied like what we thought of Miami when we 0:43:08.680 --> 0:43:11.200 saw Scarface, but like an updated version of like some 0:43:11.320 --> 0:43:14.799 boss like Kingpin. Like it just was like it just 0:43:14.840 --> 0:43:18.360 to me, it properly displayed that side of the aesthetic 0:43:18.400 --> 0:43:21.000 of Miami as to where like Trina and Trick, where 0:43:21.480 --> 0:43:23.560 there was a whole other aesthetic of Miami that's like 0:43:23.600 --> 0:43:26.439 super turned up And what's your favorite Miami strip club? 0:43:26.960 --> 0:43:30.920 I don't go to strip clubs ever? Like never, Wow, nigga, 0:43:30.960 --> 0:43:34.239 I went on, let me tell you your wife tep right. Yeah, okay, okay, 0:43:34.280 --> 0:43:37.600 shout to wifey, shout out to wifey. Yeah, but nigga, 0:43:37.640 --> 0:43:39.600 I do not go to strip clubs. Did you have 0:43:39.640 --> 0:43:42.719 a bad experience? Well? No, I just don't go, not 0:43:42.800 --> 0:43:45.520 even for the food. Why would I go? G five 0:43:45.560 --> 0:43:49.200 has great wings. So those tutsis but Toutsie's got the 0:43:49.480 --> 0:43:51.960 fried lobster tail with seafood rice. Like I don't want 0:43:51.960 --> 0:43:53.839 to go in there, and then I'll just be like, 0:43:54.400 --> 0:43:56.200 oh shit, I went to school with this bitch, Like 0:43:56.280 --> 0:43:58.360 I don't you know what I'm saying, but the food 0:43:58.400 --> 0:44:01.520 is good. At last time I went in the strip club. 0:44:01.560 --> 0:44:03.880 My cousin, y'all, y'all took me to the strip club. 0:44:04.360 --> 0:44:06.320 And she thought you were gonna say her cousin was dancing. No, 0:44:06.480 --> 0:44:09.000 she was, hell, no, no, that would have been sucked 0:44:09.080 --> 0:44:10.759 up because you go in there not knowing and she 0:44:10.800 --> 0:44:12.759 don't know you're coming in. And that's happened to my 0:44:13.320 --> 0:44:15.160 boy went to a strip club and saw his sister. 0:44:15.800 --> 0:44:17.920 Where the fucking guy. This happened like ten years ago. 0:44:18.080 --> 0:44:22.600 That's crazy, can't can't be meto. But like I went 0:44:22.640 --> 0:44:25.040 to the strip club with my cousin just you know, 0:44:25.280 --> 0:44:27.520 because she was linking over with her family friend over there. 0:44:27.560 --> 0:44:29.359 So we I was like, you know, I almost slide 0:44:29.440 --> 0:44:31.360 with you, you know what I mean, right, I just 0:44:31.400 --> 0:44:34.040 went in there she you know, chopped it up with 0:44:34.080 --> 0:44:36.239 a family friend and then dipped out ran in the 0:44:36.280 --> 0:44:39.759 ball greasy ball Greasy told the DJ I was there. 0:44:39.800 --> 0:44:41.400 The DJ was like, we got this up, Curry in 0:44:41.400 --> 0:44:43.319 the building. I was just like, nah, nigga, I'm going home. 0:44:43.880 --> 0:44:46.839 Like he was on the Little Duvault record, right, Yeah, yeah, yeah. 0:44:46.880 --> 0:44:48.319 I thought that was dope to see him kind of 0:44:48.360 --> 0:44:51.000 like because I'm like, man, ball Greasey ben't doing this 0:44:51.080 --> 0:44:53.000 thing for a long time and that record was like 0:44:53.080 --> 0:44:54.800 top five of radio. So it was dope to like 0:44:55.560 --> 0:44:57.840 best life. Yeah, shout out to do shout out to 0:44:57.840 --> 0:45:00.919 Little Duvall Man, Hey, you had you got. So let's 0:45:00.920 --> 0:45:03.399 talk about this album. When does the album actually come out? 0:45:03.440 --> 0:45:06.200 Because March twenty fifth, Okay, so we got a few weeks. 0:45:06.239 --> 0:45:09.200 But so we'll hold on to this until closer to 0:45:09.239 --> 0:45:13.040 the album. But uh, you got some dope features on 0:45:13.080 --> 0:45:17.200 this project. But the te Pain feature just was super 0:45:17.239 --> 0:45:20.280 unexpected because I'm listening to the album and the version 0:45:20.320 --> 0:45:22.880 of the early that I have doesn't have the features 0:45:22.880 --> 0:45:25.480 on it. I'm just pressing play and I'm like, Yo, 0:45:25.520 --> 0:45:28.920 this shit is hard, and then shit tea Pain. Yeah 0:45:29.440 --> 0:45:31.480 Pain was that an easy ad? Like pain is the 0:45:31.480 --> 0:45:33.640 coolest mother. I'm real tight with pain. I've been like 0:45:33.840 --> 0:45:37.720 pain is my guys. So people like he's the most humble. 0:45:37.800 --> 0:45:39.920 If he fucks with you, he fucks. He's the chillest 0:45:39.960 --> 0:45:42.759 dude I've met for sure, so far is out of 0:45:42.800 --> 0:45:45.560 him and thunder Cat and Flat Level. Yeah you know 0:45:45.560 --> 0:45:47.359 what I'm saying. So what was the t pain like, 0:45:47.480 --> 0:45:49.960 like like when you cut that record, did you specifically 0:45:50.040 --> 0:45:53.120 say like I need tea pain? No, this will happen 0:45:53.160 --> 0:45:55.000 when I cut the record. I went to the cave 0:45:55.080 --> 0:45:57.759 to work with Kenny Beats. Okay, you know what Kenny Beats, right, 0:45:57.920 --> 0:46:00.800 So I worked with Kenny Beats at his studio. You 0:46:00.840 --> 0:46:05.080 guys have a joint project. Yeah, unlocked, like when we together, 0:46:05.280 --> 0:46:08.080 the duo is unlocked. Okay, He's incredible. I've been trying 0:46:08.080 --> 0:46:10.319 to get him on the show. He like went on 0:46:10.480 --> 0:46:13.200 his Twitch and like I played a part of my 0:46:13.280 --> 0:46:15.480 interview talking about how dope is. It was like we 0:46:15.520 --> 0:46:17.000 made it and I was like, damn it. I'm like, 0:46:17.000 --> 0:46:19.840 all right, well come on the show, then connect to 0:46:20.040 --> 0:46:22.840 I'll talk to Kenny Man now he's an legend. But continue. 0:46:23.000 --> 0:46:25.040 But yeah, So I was at Kenny Beat studio. This 0:46:25.120 --> 0:46:28.080 was like early twenty twenty. This is where I just 0:46:28.120 --> 0:46:30.640 went there and we wanted to work on some tracks, 0:46:30.680 --> 0:46:34.480 like you know, and he was playing beats and everything. 0:46:34.640 --> 0:46:40.279 Then he played he was like, he played something. He 0:46:40.320 --> 0:46:44.920 played on the sample of troubles, and then I just 0:46:44.960 --> 0:46:47.040 started writing to it as he was making a beat, 0:46:47.280 --> 0:46:49.399 and I only wrote the hook. So I was like, 0:46:49.640 --> 0:46:53.160 guys in trouble with these drugs, we might struggle because 0:46:53.200 --> 0:46:57.160 life's bitch. They heavy when your ass get rich blowing 0:46:57.239 --> 0:47:00.560 money because up bad ain't ship. So he and he 0:47:00.600 --> 0:47:02.400 was like, yo, just go in the studio, bro, just 0:47:02.440 --> 0:47:04.640 go in. So I'm like, all right, I go in 0:47:04.680 --> 0:47:07.239 the studio. I lay it down. I laid down the verse. 0:47:07.360 --> 0:47:12.000 I laid out two verses and basically, you know, it 0:47:12.120 --> 0:47:14.000 was just like this is dope. I sent to my management. 0:47:14.080 --> 0:47:15.680 It was like, oh this shit five, this, that and 0:47:15.760 --> 0:47:17.920 the third like we like this, this is gonna be 0:47:17.920 --> 0:47:19.600 the hit. I know this is gonna be the hit. 0:47:20.200 --> 0:47:24.080 And then I'm just like, yeah, whatever, nigga. So I 0:47:24.160 --> 0:47:26.839 remember I was reaching out to people at this point 0:47:26.880 --> 0:47:29.120 because like I wasn't working as much with F and 0:47:29.200 --> 0:47:31.960 Z anymore, and I was just reaching out to people 0:47:32.160 --> 0:47:33.960 seeing who was gonna hit me back. And I was 0:47:34.000 --> 0:47:38.000 reaching out specifically to producers, not even to an artists, 0:47:38.120 --> 0:47:40.000 and Ta Paint was just one of those artists I 0:47:40.000 --> 0:47:42.279 wanted to reach out to because I just wanted his 0:47:42.400 --> 0:47:48.360 insight with you know, yeah, with just music and me 0:47:48.440 --> 0:47:51.600 and Ta Pain's relationship it started at Bonnorou Festival in 0:47:51.600 --> 0:47:54.680 twenty eighteen, like he liked my cipher. Of course, I 0:47:54.719 --> 0:47:56.560 grew up on his music. I grew up on rapper 0:47:56.600 --> 0:47:59.520 turn Sanger and then you know, him and Adam de 0:47:59.600 --> 0:48:02.399 Vemp from Work of Holics was cracking jokes backstage, back 0:48:02.400 --> 0:48:04.440 and forth. I love that show. Yo. It was like 0:48:04.560 --> 0:48:06.799 it was like deaf comedy jam or some shit. If 0:48:06.800 --> 0:48:08.839 you ever seen them too interact, it was funny as fuck. 0:48:08.880 --> 0:48:11.879 That sounds amazing. I do my set, he do his set. 0:48:11.920 --> 0:48:14.200 Were still cracking jokes with each other. We exchanged numbers 0:48:14.239 --> 0:48:16.920 this and the third. That's how a relationship started. And 0:48:16.920 --> 0:48:18.600 then you know, I reached out to him and I 0:48:18.640 --> 0:48:20.040 was like, hey, I'm about to call you because you know, 0:48:20.080 --> 0:48:21.680 I changed my number. I don't know if he changed 0:48:21.680 --> 0:48:25.759 his number. Reached out to him and I was talking 0:48:25.760 --> 0:48:28.200 to him, just bigging them up and just letting him know, like, yo, 0:48:28.320 --> 0:48:30.359 you're a legend. I know you don't get appreciated as 0:48:30.440 --> 0:48:33.280 much because like all the things that happened in the industry. 0:48:33.320 --> 0:48:35.640 But brouh, I'm letting you know that I appreciate you 0:48:35.680 --> 0:48:38.400 and what you've done for me just growing up, you 0:48:38.480 --> 0:48:40.200 know what I'm saying, Like all the shit you did 0:48:40.200 --> 0:48:42.840 with DJ Khaled, of course you did with Rick Ross, 0:48:42.880 --> 0:48:44.440 all the shit you did with Plis, all the shit 0:48:44.520 --> 0:48:46.200 you did with Lil Wayne, and even all the shit 0:48:46.200 --> 0:48:49.440 you've done yourself, even freaknat like if you just t 0:48:49.640 --> 0:48:52.719 paying one two punch yeah on those Calid records. Yeah, 0:48:52.760 --> 0:48:55.359 even the stuff you did with Kanye West. Yeah, come on, man, 0:48:55.360 --> 0:48:58.560 you know what I mean. So here Will really appreciated that. 0:48:58.600 --> 0:49:00.880 And I wanted his feedback on two tracks that I 0:49:00.920 --> 0:49:03.640 have on the album. So one of them was Worst 0:49:03.640 --> 0:49:06.440 Come to Worst, and I sent Troubles. They were two opposites, 0:49:06.480 --> 0:49:09.120 and those were like the leading singles for me before 0:49:09.160 --> 0:49:12.279 I made any of the other records. Sent it to him, 0:49:12.600 --> 0:49:14.719 and he gets back to me. He said he loved Troubles, 0:49:15.120 --> 0:49:17.479 and he was like, Wor's come the Worst is fire too. 0:49:17.800 --> 0:49:19.760 If I was you, I'll put both of them bitches 0:49:19.760 --> 0:49:22.600 out at the same time on different blog sites. And 0:49:22.640 --> 0:49:24.719 I was like that's it ain't gonna work, you know 0:49:24.760 --> 0:49:28.320 what I'm saying. Also blogs like whatever years, you know 0:49:28.360 --> 0:49:32.560 what I mean. So he really loved the Troubles record. 0:49:32.600 --> 0:49:35.719 He really liked that record. So my manager Mark a 0:49:35.800 --> 0:49:38.320 year later, he was like, Hey, we think about sending 0:49:38.360 --> 0:49:40.520 that record in t Pain to see what he's gonna 0:49:40.560 --> 0:49:42.880 do with it. So I'm like, all right, whatever, you know, 0:49:43.000 --> 0:49:44.839 you send it to most people. Most people don't get 0:49:44.880 --> 0:49:47.319 back to me because it's me, you know what I'm saying, 0:49:47.480 --> 0:49:49.200 even though they don't know me like that, you know. 0:49:49.960 --> 0:49:54.480 So basically what happened with that was t I'm going 0:49:54.520 --> 0:49:56.839 in the Multai class and T Pain texts me. He's 0:49:56.920 --> 0:50:01.920 like yo, and I'm like yo. He didn't reply, and 0:50:01.960 --> 0:50:04.319 I'm just like all right, whatever, so you know, I'll 0:50:04.360 --> 0:50:07.520 call him probably at some point. Then the next day, 0:50:08.760 --> 0:50:11.800 I'm at my homie Power's crib, which who also produced 0:50:11.840 --> 0:50:15.120 on this record, and you know, we going over some stuff. 0:50:15.160 --> 0:50:17.080 I get a text some T Pain a drop box 0:50:17.120 --> 0:50:20.359 folder and I opened a folder and you know, I'm 0:50:20.400 --> 0:50:21.759 listening to it and I was like, oh, this is 0:50:21.800 --> 0:50:24.040 Troubles and this that and the third you know, and 0:50:24.080 --> 0:50:26.400 then next thing, you know, his voice comes up and 0:50:26.400 --> 0:50:29.279 I'm like, oh shit, I start spassing because the man 0:50:29.480 --> 0:50:32.480 ripped it. And he gave me classic T pain, like 0:50:32.520 --> 0:50:35.920 in T Pain that everybody knows. Fact, you know what 0:50:35.960 --> 0:50:38.400 I'm saying. He gave me T Pain, T Pain. He 0:50:38.440 --> 0:50:40.960 gave me him great record, and what he was writing 0:50:40.960 --> 0:50:43.120 about was so really, I know you felt it. You know. 0:50:43.680 --> 0:50:46.680 I felt that shit firsthand. And I was even I 0:50:46.719 --> 0:50:49.000 even got self conscious a bit, and I was just like, damn, 0:50:49.000 --> 0:50:50.960 should I change my verse? He was like nah, and 0:50:50.960 --> 0:50:53.920 then POWERS like nah, hell noah, bro, like that's the record, 0:50:54.040 --> 0:50:57.040 Like you got to keep it like that. So I'm like, 0:50:57.200 --> 0:50:58.719 you know what you right? And I was feeling self 0:50:58.719 --> 0:51:00.520 conscious because I'm like, damn, T Pain ripped it. But 0:51:00.560 --> 0:51:04.080 I'm like, that's the pain, you know what I'm saying. No, 0:51:04.239 --> 0:51:06.920 I mean, that's he's one of them ones. I mean, 0:51:06.960 --> 0:51:08.719 like I think of him and Akon and like Lil 0:51:08.800 --> 0:51:10.920 Wayne in the run that they had on like around 0:51:10.960 --> 0:51:13.760 the same era, and like how they were just on everything. 0:51:14.400 --> 0:51:15.919 It was like each of them had like three years 0:51:15.920 --> 0:51:17.800 and they just kept passing the baton. It was like Acon, 0:51:17.840 --> 0:51:19.319 then it was Pain, then it was Wayne in Pain, 0:51:19.440 --> 0:51:21.479 and then it was just when it was It's every 0:51:21.520 --> 0:51:24.600 remix everything. Yeah, it was crazy. Did you ever did 0:51:24.680 --> 0:51:26.000 you ever end up? Did you ever do a song 0:51:26.000 --> 0:51:29.920 with DJ Kelly? No? He never tapped in. Nah, I 0:51:29.920 --> 0:51:32.640 feel like he gonna tap in though I know he 0:51:32.719 --> 0:51:35.919 gonna tap in, though I don't even I don't even worry. 0:51:35.960 --> 0:51:37.600 I'm not even worried about that. I know he gonna 0:51:37.600 --> 0:51:40.520 tap in. And if you don't, he's sleeping. Yeah, because 0:51:40.560 --> 0:51:45.000 I mean obviously you know he's he's had, he's had, 0:51:45.040 --> 0:51:46.839 you know, born and raised in the County and Dade. 0:51:46.920 --> 0:51:49.200 And look at this point, motherfuckers know who the fuck 0:51:49.239 --> 0:51:51.919 I am. Yes, I know, motherfuckers know who the fuck 0:51:51.920 --> 0:51:54.920 I am. Do they say anything, Nah, they'll tell me 0:51:54.960 --> 0:51:56.440 in person, but they ain't gonn tweet about it was 0:51:56.520 --> 0:52:00.239 on that Born and Raised record. It was uh, yeah, 0:52:00.239 --> 0:52:04.239 it was tricky. Rick Ross was Dre on it from 0:52:04.719 --> 0:52:07.439 Coon Dre. Nah, you must be thinking about brown people 0:52:07.480 --> 0:52:11.720 bag brown babe. That was what Santana. That was my ship. 0:52:11.880 --> 0:52:15.000 That ship was hot. Calid them early Klid records before, 0:52:15.040 --> 0:52:17.160 like I mean, Kaled is still putting out one they 0:52:17.200 --> 0:52:20.799 had to o. My god, bro, there was that one 0:52:21.000 --> 0:52:24.719 Kalid video where Rick Ross gets pulled over and he 0:52:24.880 --> 0:52:28.200 jumps off the bridge into the water. Do you remember that. 0:52:28.440 --> 0:52:32.440 It was the most ridiculous, awesome, like overly like you 0:52:32.440 --> 0:52:34.759 ain't talking about we taking over, right, I think? So 0:52:34.800 --> 0:52:39.040 he gets pulled over and then he just says fuck 0:52:39.080 --> 0:52:41.080 it and you just see Rick Ross jumping off of 0:52:41.280 --> 0:52:43.800 and it's really him, like they didn't use the stunt 0:52:43.800 --> 0:52:46.280 double and they filmed it from like all the angles 0:52:46.280 --> 0:52:48.440 and it's Rick Ross just diving into the ocean. That 0:52:48.560 --> 0:52:51.880 was an era for Miami. That was an era. They 0:52:51.920 --> 0:52:54.560 all were on that double XL covers flow Rider, Ross 0:52:54.600 --> 0:52:58.000 and Kalid. That ship was so fire. Plies, I know 0:52:58.239 --> 0:53:01.120 Pies is from Fort Myers, but Plies now we adopt. 0:53:01.200 --> 0:53:04.000 You could claim, yeah, he lives in Tampa. We claim 0:53:04.040 --> 0:53:06.520 all Florida rappers. We claim everybody applies lives in Tampa. 0:53:06.520 --> 0:53:09.000 Though a lot of people, you know what, don't tell 0:53:09.080 --> 0:53:10.880 him where. Don't tell him telling the people where this 0:53:11.000 --> 0:53:13.719 man live. Man, not that people know, they know. I 0:53:13.719 --> 0:53:16.680 didn't know Tampa claims that motherfucker bro that will be 0:53:16.719 --> 0:53:19.440 at the he'd be at the goddamn what's the grocery 0:53:19.440 --> 0:53:22.440 store with the gray sandwiches in Florida publics, publics, I 0:53:22.440 --> 0:53:26.240 miss publics, Yeah, me too, them subs, the public data. 0:53:26.440 --> 0:53:28.960 They never had a pub slub. You know, it's crazy 0:53:29.000 --> 0:53:31.200 because like you can go to Rouse here you get 0:53:31.200 --> 0:53:32.960 the chicken ten of sub right, oh you can get it. 0:53:33.000 --> 0:53:35.319 I mean, not anything, but the chicken sub. Chicken send 0:53:35.320 --> 0:53:40.640 of sub is the best one. And wah wah. Oh 0:53:40.800 --> 0:53:44.279 they just got down out here. No, not out here. 0:53:44.320 --> 0:53:48.200 I'm just talking about it in Florida. I know in Florida. 0:53:48.560 --> 0:53:52.360 I mean I moved there early twenty fourteen. After the club, 0:53:52.360 --> 0:53:53.719 you'd be able to go to wah wahs and get 0:53:53.719 --> 0:53:57.040 a solid meat ball or parmesan sandwich from a gas 0:53:57.040 --> 0:54:01.040 station at like five am. Yeah, that's true. And it's like, oh, 0:54:01.280 --> 0:54:03.799 why aren't there more wa wahs everywhere? The first time 0:54:03.800 --> 0:54:05.560 I heard of a wah wah is because of Ronnie J. 0:54:06.360 --> 0:54:08.600 Really yeah, he was the first person to ever tell 0:54:08.640 --> 0:54:11.560 me what a wah wah was. It's it's kind of 0:54:11.560 --> 0:54:13.520 crazy because people are trying to hype me up and 0:54:13.520 --> 0:54:15.520 I'm like, it's a fucking gas station. No, it's not 0:54:15.560 --> 0:54:18.440 just the just the gas station. You can yeah, you 0:54:18.440 --> 0:54:20.840 can get some quality food at wah wahs. Yeah, I 0:54:20.960 --> 0:54:23.360 like wa wah yo. We got to stop the interview 0:54:23.400 --> 0:54:26.560 real quick. 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You get, yeah, 0:56:16.600 --> 0:56:20.600 hungry Bell, and you get these big ass most fire 0:56:20.640 --> 0:56:24.560 sandwich you probably ever had. Okay, I'm a sandwich guy. Like, 0:56:24.640 --> 0:56:26.320 if you go to South Miami, it's right across the 0:56:26.360 --> 0:56:28.920 street from Miami Dade. Okay, okay, you go over there, 0:56:29.120 --> 0:56:32.359 like the South Campus. Yeah. So if you go down there, 0:56:32.520 --> 0:56:34.840 go across the street from Miami Daye South Campus and 0:56:35.040 --> 0:56:37.839 it's in this little plaza it's called Hungry Bell. Go 0:56:37.880 --> 0:56:41.640 in there, go get you a sandwich. They cross everything 0:56:41.680 --> 0:56:43.760 out on the list of what you want on your sandwich. 0:56:44.560 --> 0:56:47.400 And bro, you could say, you could like if you 0:56:47.640 --> 0:56:52.680 hella hungry eat half that sandwich right there. And Windwood, Nah, 0:56:52.920 --> 0:56:55.759 it's I was in Windwood and this is my boy 0:56:55.800 --> 0:56:57.440 from Miami took me to a sandwich place and it 0:56:57.480 --> 0:56:59.920 was like that, like like with the you talk ab 0:57:00.080 --> 0:57:02.759 our little saying. It was a sandwich spot and it 0:57:02.840 --> 0:57:05.120 was fucking gas. But it was in Wyndwood. It was like, 0:57:05.239 --> 0:57:07.120 I don't know. We went after Rolling Loud last year 0:57:07.160 --> 0:57:08.560 and it was it was pretty fire. Are you doing 0:57:08.640 --> 0:57:11.799 Rolling Loud this year? Nope? How many Rolling clouds have 0:57:11.840 --> 0:57:18.880 you done? I did from twenty fifteen to twenty twenty nineteen? 0:57:19.520 --> 0:57:22.520 Were you on the uh? I didn't do the twenty 0:57:22.520 --> 0:57:26.680 eighteen one and I didn't do the twenty I mean 0:57:26.720 --> 0:57:31.120 I kind of did the twenty sixteen one. We kind of, yeah, 0:57:31.160 --> 0:57:33.400 I kind of did, because you know, I went there, 0:57:33.600 --> 0:57:35.520 you know when you were there. I remember Making invited me. 0:57:35.560 --> 0:57:37.480 He wanted me to come out during his set, and 0:57:37.520 --> 0:57:41.520 I did that. Are we sure that was twenty sixteen? 0:57:41.640 --> 0:57:43.720 That was twenty sixteen. It was on the smaller stage. 0:57:44.240 --> 0:57:47.200 And I went out for Suicide Boys too, that Suicide 0:57:47.240 --> 0:57:51.640 Boys man. Them just eating And then we got to Hey, 0:57:51.720 --> 0:57:53.600 shout out to Pool. Oh, shout out to Pool. We 0:57:53.600 --> 0:57:55.560 forgot to mention him when we're talking about Miami, right, yeah, 0:57:55.560 --> 0:57:58.640 that's true. We got to mention Kuyah Puyah. I just 0:57:58.680 --> 0:58:01.919 saw him not too long ago. He cut his hair again. Yeah, 0:58:01.920 --> 0:58:04.959 you good to see pu Ya Pulla's good, super nice guy. 0:58:05.440 --> 0:58:07.880 And Fat Nick. I love Fat Nick. He's just a character. 0:58:07.920 --> 0:58:10.520 He's kind of like a He's like a walking cartoon character. 0:58:10.520 --> 0:58:12.000 I always tell him, I'm like, bro, I'm cool with 0:58:12.080 --> 0:58:15.040 Fat Nick, but I'm cooler with Pooya PuO. Yeah. Yeah, 0:58:15.080 --> 0:58:18.280 now PuYas A, he's a beast. I feel like he 0:58:18.360 --> 0:58:21.280 had to be influenced by what you guys. He says 0:58:21.320 --> 0:58:23.800 it every day. Yeah, very much so. But he was 0:58:23.800 --> 0:58:26.840 influenced by me. And now when like Raider Clan and shit, 0:58:27.200 --> 0:58:30.600 you know the Raider Clan shit could have been so crazy. Yeah, 0:58:30.680 --> 0:58:33.360 I mean, if things didn't play out the way it did, 0:58:34.560 --> 0:58:38.320 all of us will be like multimillionaires right now. Instead 0:58:38.440 --> 0:58:40.840 just you are. I ain't gonna even just put my 0:58:40.920 --> 0:58:43.280 name in that ring like that. You know what I'm saying. 0:58:43.520 --> 0:58:46.240 I'm doing well. You're doing well. I'm doing well. That's 0:58:46.280 --> 0:58:48.960 all that matters. Man. What is like this? Everyone has 0:58:49.000 --> 0:58:52.120 a stupid thing they spend money on? For me, I 0:58:52.160 --> 0:58:54.360 don't buy like I don't have a nice I just 0:58:54.360 --> 0:58:56.600 have a normal car. It's paid off. I don't have 0:58:56.680 --> 0:59:01.040 car payment. You know. I usually buy just like I 0:59:01.120 --> 0:59:06.160 buy basketball cards or Phoenix Sun's jerseys of like any 0:59:06.360 --> 0:59:08.560 like I have like thirty Sons jersey. I don't I 0:59:08.560 --> 0:59:11.040 just buy stupid ship like that. Maybe some Jordan's right, 0:59:11.520 --> 0:59:13.520 What is the dumb thing to spend money on? I 0:59:13.560 --> 0:59:17.640 don't even consider it dumb. But I buy toys like colection? Yeah, 0:59:17.640 --> 0:59:20.320 I got a toy collection. You have like a toy room. 0:59:20.600 --> 0:59:24.880 I got a toy case. But I just how old 0:59:24.880 --> 0:59:27.520 are they? Like? Because I have my Owmi d You 0:59:27.560 --> 0:59:30.320 remember that movie Small Soldiers. Of course, I bought those 0:59:30.320 --> 0:59:35.800 toys like gargoyles. Bought those toysle Godzillas bought those toys. 0:59:37.120 --> 0:59:41.440 Ultra Mantiga bought those toys, the whole school power ranges, 0:59:41.560 --> 0:59:44.240 Like I remember, I remember, so you got all those 0:59:44.480 --> 0:59:46.720 you buy them in the box and yeah, I don't 0:59:46.720 --> 0:59:50.240 open them ships at all. Gotta go on eBay for that. Yeah, 0:59:50.400 --> 0:59:52.400 I go on eBay. I try. I see how much 0:59:52.400 --> 0:59:55.080 it is, and it'd be like three hundred dollars for 0:59:55.200 --> 0:59:57.800 like the small soldiers. Shit, I'll be like, run it. 0:59:58.280 --> 1:00:02.640 I just started to get some like fun codes, and 1:00:03.240 --> 1:00:07.000 I have I have like I have like some Lebron toys, 1:00:07.000 --> 1:00:10.400 which sounds really really stupid compared to your toys. And 1:00:10.520 --> 1:00:12.040 I have all my old Ninja turtles from when I 1:00:12.080 --> 1:00:14.200 was a kid still in my garage. I'll be looking 1:00:14.280 --> 1:00:17.640 up the Burger King Dragon ball Z figurines, the ones 1:00:17.680 --> 1:00:19.720 that was like silver, right, I'm trying to see how 1:00:19.800 --> 1:00:22.360 much like they. What's the most expensive toy you have 1:00:22.480 --> 1:00:25.200 or the most expensive toy that you actually cost you 1:00:25.360 --> 1:00:28.640 like the most money? Man, It's kind of hard to decide. 1:00:28.680 --> 1:00:32.760 I forgot how many, like how much one of my 1:00:32.800 --> 1:00:36.760 toys costs. Damn, there's a lot over a thousand. I 1:00:36.760 --> 1:00:39.560 don't even know over a thousand. I think as my 1:00:39.640 --> 1:00:41.800 toys as a whole is over one thousand, probably over 1:00:41.880 --> 1:00:45.120 two bands. That's tight. Small Soldiers had a solid soundtrack. 1:00:45.160 --> 1:00:46.920 They had a song with Bone Thugs on that soundtrack 1:00:46.920 --> 1:00:49.160 that was fire. Yeah, that was a good movie. I 1:00:49.160 --> 1:00:51.560 didn't remember the soundtrack though. Only tends to be a 1:00:51.560 --> 1:00:53.600 big Bone Thugs fan as a kid, So like anything 1:00:53.640 --> 1:00:55.760 Bone Thugs is on, we would we would buy this, like, oh, 1:00:55.760 --> 1:00:58.280 they're on the Batman and Robin sound track, let's buy it. 1:00:59.560 --> 1:01:03.480 Small olders, though, people forget about that fucking movie. Those 1:01:03.480 --> 1:01:06.080 toys look so raw. I bet they do because the 1:01:06.120 --> 1:01:09.360 fucking old movies based on the toys. So like you, like, 1:01:09.360 --> 1:01:11.520 even the old school toy story toys looked hard because 1:01:11.520 --> 1:01:15.200 it felt like it was like the same buzz like Woody. 1:01:15.280 --> 1:01:18.320 I actually got those toy ks too, you know, Oh 1:01:18.360 --> 1:01:20.760 so your ship is just nostalgic. Yeah, I got a 1:01:20.760 --> 1:01:22.840 lot of Dragon ball Z toys. Are you a big 1:01:22.880 --> 1:01:25.480 anime guy? Yeah? I mean I've seen you perform, and 1:01:25.520 --> 1:01:27.480 I know some of your aesthetic on your artwork all that, 1:01:27.600 --> 1:01:30.520 So I mean I can only assume what's your favorite, 1:01:30.600 --> 1:01:34.760 what's your what's like the goat anime to you. Cowboy Bebop. 1:01:35.160 --> 1:01:39.880 Cowboy Bebop, that's the goat anime for me. People think 1:01:39.880 --> 1:01:41.920 it's Dragon ball Z and I love Dragon ball Z, 1:01:42.440 --> 1:01:44.160 you know what I'm saying. But I bought my son 1:01:44.240 --> 1:01:46.320 the Blu Rays box set of Dragon ball Z. I 1:01:46.360 --> 1:01:52.920 didn't realize how many episodes were on each season. That's like, 1:01:53.120 --> 1:01:55.760 I feel like it's like more than like most shows. 1:01:56.040 --> 1:01:58.600 But the thing with that, that shit that should just 1:01:58.600 --> 1:02:01.480 get hella turned up, you know what I'm saying. Like, 1:02:01.840 --> 1:02:04.720 I rewatched all non seasons of it during Quarantine and 1:02:04.760 --> 1:02:07.560 I was like, damn, this should give me anxiety again, 1:02:07.760 --> 1:02:11.200 like because they'd be powering up and you think something's 1:02:11.200 --> 1:02:12.600 gonna happen, and then they got to go to the 1:02:12.600 --> 1:02:15.320 next episode. You're like, what the hell's going on? You know? 1:02:16.120 --> 1:02:20.600 I rewatched The Wire during the pandemic and Curb Your Enthusiasm. Man, 1:02:20.760 --> 1:02:22.960 you ever watched Curb? Oh? I love Curb. Did you 1:02:22.960 --> 1:02:24.840 watch this past season? No? I didn't get to see 1:02:24.880 --> 1:02:29.120 the past season, but I like Curb. I never watched 1:02:29.160 --> 1:02:33.640 Seinfeld though, you know, I like Seinfeld until I watched 1:02:33.680 --> 1:02:36.760 Curb and I was like, Seinfeld ain't shit. Curb is 1:02:36.800 --> 1:02:40.400 like what like Curb is like the absolute best version 1:02:40.720 --> 1:02:44.280 of like that type of humor. So like Seinfeld was amazing. 1:02:45.280 --> 1:02:49.400 I love Seinfeld, but it is not fucking with Curb. Nah, Curb. 1:02:49.680 --> 1:02:51.920 Curb is just funny, especially when they have dic A 1:02:52.000 --> 1:02:55.040 Fox on that Oh my God, the Hurricane Katrina shit. 1:02:55.240 --> 1:02:59.680 And what's crazy is is old boys. Still Leon is 1:02:59.680 --> 1:03:01.880 still on the show, Still is with Larry to this day, 1:03:01.920 --> 1:03:05.400 to this season. He's still in Larry's house, So good 1:03:05.440 --> 1:03:07.480 Man shout out to him on this album too. You 1:03:07.520 --> 1:03:09.480 also got black Jed to talk about it. Was it 1:03:09.800 --> 1:03:12.880 track eight? Am I getting the oh ship? Is that 1:03:12.960 --> 1:03:15.400 track eight? What's this track is called I Gotta look 1:03:15.440 --> 1:03:17.680 through It? What you mean No? It's called Ain't No Way. 1:03:17.840 --> 1:03:20.320 There's a song called what you mean No No No, Okay, 1:03:20.360 --> 1:03:25.120 I just doesn't but there's a way. That song is crazy. 1:03:25.320 --> 1:03:28.680 It's like a real posse cut though, And you had 1:03:28.720 --> 1:03:31.040 told me all the artists on this. I didn't even 1:03:31.080 --> 1:03:35.080 realize Buddy was singing at the end like like crazy 1:03:35.120 --> 1:03:38.200 posse cut. Yeah, who was on this record? Okay? So 1:03:38.520 --> 1:03:46.680 it's myself, Jed, Josiah Rico, Nasty Kiddy, Cash, Buddy, Robert 1:03:46.680 --> 1:03:51.880 glassper plays keys on this uh and powers and Buddy's 1:03:51.880 --> 1:03:55.720 singing at the end. That's a hard I mean, is 1:03:55.760 --> 1:03:58.920 that a hard song to pull off? Getting? Yo? You 1:03:58.960 --> 1:04:01.520 would think it's a hard all the moving parts, Yo, 1:04:01.560 --> 1:04:03.240 you would think it's a hard song to pull off. 1:04:03.280 --> 1:04:06.440 But the night we recorded that, shit, it felt like 1:04:06.480 --> 1:04:10.120 it was the easiest thing. Was everyone there. Everybody was there. 1:04:10.120 --> 1:04:12.200 Oh see, that's rare these days to have that many 1:04:12.200 --> 1:04:14.480 people in the same place. Bru The way the link 1:04:14.560 --> 1:04:16.960 up was crazy because I went there for a Josiah 1:04:17.040 --> 1:04:20.400 session and Josiah was working on his arm song called 1:04:20.480 --> 1:04:23.360 Art of War, which at first I wasn't going right 1:04:23.560 --> 1:04:25.760 to it, and then I did the intro, but I 1:04:25.840 --> 1:04:29.040 ended up writing to it. So I go outside started 1:04:29.040 --> 1:04:32.280 writing my verse, and shit, right, Rico Nasty's next dough. 1:04:32.800 --> 1:04:34.720 I didn't even know she was in the same building. 1:04:35.240 --> 1:04:37.360 Rico Nasty comes out the room the same time I 1:04:37.440 --> 1:04:39.439 come out the room to write my verse. So I'm 1:04:39.440 --> 1:04:44.160 on the couch writing. I hear I'm like, what the fuck? Like, 1:04:44.280 --> 1:04:47.040 I look up and I was like, oh, that's Rico, 1:04:47.520 --> 1:04:51.280 Rico Rico. I called her name three times, Rico so 1:04:52.200 --> 1:04:55.240 Rico looked down Finally she was like, boy, what, oh, 1:04:55.480 --> 1:04:58.040 what's up this hell? I was like, yo, what's good? Ricos. 1:04:58.400 --> 1:05:01.080 We started chopping it up and then we go into 1:05:01.120 --> 1:05:03.800 the next room. We go into the room with Josiah 1:05:03.840 --> 1:05:07.000 and Sean and all them boys, and then I was like, 1:05:07.040 --> 1:05:09.800 look who I ran into. So Josiah and Rico chopping 1:05:09.840 --> 1:05:11.520 it up. I'm showing them how to use the College 1:05:11.520 --> 1:05:15.360 sticks and shit. And we was talking about before the interview, 1:05:15.520 --> 1:05:18.720 and there's an actual video of me, Josiah and Rico 1:05:18.800 --> 1:05:23.200 and Rico I'm using the Collie sticks. And I asked Rico, a, 1:05:23.320 --> 1:05:25.240 you're trying to jump on this song with us, right? 1:05:25.960 --> 1:05:28.680 Because I did my verse and then we played it 1:05:28.680 --> 1:05:30.200 for it. She was like, oh, hell yeah. And then 1:05:30.200 --> 1:05:32.320 we y'all done. Let's like come over to my session 1:05:32.320 --> 1:05:36.720 and shit. Well, we actually took the session to her room. 1:05:37.600 --> 1:05:40.200 To her to her room, it was a bigger room. 1:05:40.800 --> 1:05:43.160 So we go over to her session. It was just 1:05:43.280 --> 1:05:47.920 her and David Ali and her engineer. We all come 1:05:47.960 --> 1:05:51.680 in there, me, Sean, Josiah and Jazz and this other 1:05:51.720 --> 1:05:55.560 dude who produced Are the War. We're all in there 1:05:55.720 --> 1:05:58.040 just vibing. Next thing, you know, she was like, yeah, 1:05:58.080 --> 1:06:00.000 I'm finna call Jig and just that, and the third 1:06:00.160 --> 1:06:03.520 she calls, Jed tells Jed to pull up. I didn't 1:06:03.560 --> 1:06:05.520 know Jid was with Black at the time or with 1:06:05.640 --> 1:06:08.560 Kitty Cash. Were just thinking, Jid gonna pull up. Jed 1:06:08.680 --> 1:06:12.040 pulls up with Black and Kitty Cash. We call Powers 1:06:12.160 --> 1:06:15.680 around the same time. We're like, Powers, you gotta come 1:06:15.680 --> 1:06:17.920 to this session. You got to. He was doing some 1:06:17.960 --> 1:06:19.600 other shit. He was like, all right, I'm on the way. 1:06:19.680 --> 1:06:21.480 He brought his laptop. He was like, he was on 1:06:21.520 --> 1:06:24.680 the way. He comes through. So now there's a lot 1:06:24.720 --> 1:06:28.440 of us, and now we're seeing Black and Kitty Cash 1:06:28.600 --> 1:06:32.000 in the same room. Next thing you know, we in 1:06:32.040 --> 1:06:36.640 there experimented this motherfucker h Josiah's on the couch like 1:06:36.760 --> 1:06:39.240 turning up and shit like yelling, ain't no way. We 1:06:39.320 --> 1:06:42.920 freestyling over this beat that Powers played and it had 1:06:42.960 --> 1:06:47.520 two halves to it, so we had you know, that's 1:06:47.560 --> 1:06:49.840 when Jed. I don't know what happened, but this nigga 1:06:49.920 --> 1:06:53.480 was like Quincy Jones. That night. This man started organizing 1:06:53.480 --> 1:06:57.160 the track, like, hey, hey, whatever you're saying right now, 1:06:57.640 --> 1:07:00.560 do that shit go in the studio. Record that shit boom, 1:07:00.800 --> 1:07:03.080 so Josiah says, ain't no way, ain't no way, ain't 1:07:03.120 --> 1:07:04.680 no way on the way, like like kind of like 1:07:04.680 --> 1:07:08.800 a bridge type shit. Then he goes and tells Black Black, 1:07:09.280 --> 1:07:11.880 we need you to do this hook. He goes in there, 1:07:12.080 --> 1:07:15.200 does the hook like, ain't no way, niggas me. After 1:07:15.240 --> 1:07:19.560 this he does that, then he was like, Rico, you 1:07:19.600 --> 1:07:21.440 need to write this, like you need to write this 1:07:21.560 --> 1:07:24.600 verse right now, and then you need to go after Josiah. 1:07:25.000 --> 1:07:27.840 So he started organizing the shit, and he was like, Dizzelle, 1:07:27.840 --> 1:07:30.720 where you want to go. So I'm like, man, long 1:07:30.760 --> 1:07:32.560 as I'm on this shit, I don't give a fuck 1:07:32.600 --> 1:07:34.960 where I'm at. You get what I'm saying, Because there 1:07:35.000 --> 1:07:37.320 was so many of us. Buddy's not there yet, Buddy's 1:07:37.320 --> 1:07:40.160 not there yet. Buddy came through. Like, I'll let you 1:07:40.160 --> 1:07:42.480 know where Buddy came through. So we already recorded ARTI 1:07:42.520 --> 1:07:47.600 war me, Rico and Josiah right then we recorded. Then 1:07:47.640 --> 1:07:49.840 we started recording Ain't no way and just putting the 1:07:49.840 --> 1:07:54.280 pieces together. So he's organizing everybody. Jed, I don't know. 1:07:54.400 --> 1:07:56.560 Jed kind of got this experience due to the fact 1:07:56.600 --> 1:07:58.800 that they did the Revenge of the Dreamer shit. So 1:07:59.240 --> 1:08:00.920 I'm pretty sure you Yeah, he was. I mean that 1:08:01.440 --> 1:08:03.680 I've heard in detail about those sessions, so it makes sense. 1:08:03.680 --> 1:08:06.480 He would, you know, how to kind of conduct everybody. 1:08:06.960 --> 1:08:09.200 Then Jed goes in, ain't no way, I ain't gonna 1:08:09.200 --> 1:08:11.360 sew shank from out the ship. He does his verse 1:08:11.880 --> 1:08:13.959 and I'm sitting there right and he gets out the booth. 1:08:14.000 --> 1:08:16.000 This is that what you got? And then I started 1:08:16.000 --> 1:08:18.040 spending my verse on. He was like, that's it going there. 1:08:18.600 --> 1:08:21.760 So I go in, I do my verse, and then 1:08:22.000 --> 1:08:25.680 Black shows up with a bunch of females, so we 1:08:25.840 --> 1:08:30.600 in there. Black goes in started doing a oh oh 1:08:30.640 --> 1:08:38.160 oh oh, and then the song's completely done. They did 1:08:38.160 --> 1:08:40.479 a third track, but I went home. I told it 1:08:40.640 --> 1:08:43.280 was getting too late. She convincing me to stay in 1:08:43.280 --> 1:08:45.160 the studio. Matter of fact, I didn't even get the 1:08:45.200 --> 1:08:48.759 Kitty Cash part. He was like, Kitty, there's a bridge, 1:08:48.800 --> 1:08:50.559 there's like a little part right here. We need you 1:08:50.600 --> 1:08:54.040 to talk shit. And Kitty goes in there and kills 1:08:54.040 --> 1:08:58.080 it one take. Wow, you know what I'm saying. And 1:08:58.120 --> 1:09:02.160 then after that I go home. They made it one 1:09:02.200 --> 1:09:04.960 more track that night, and they said it ain't no 1:09:05.000 --> 1:09:10.200 way to me. But originally we wanted Rico to have it. 1:09:10.920 --> 1:09:14.240 That was supposed to be Rico's record, but David was like, 1:09:14.320 --> 1:09:16.320 you know, it's all fair game. Whoever wants it could 1:09:16.360 --> 1:09:19.679 have it. And to be honest with you, I didn't 1:09:19.720 --> 1:09:21.840 want no features for this album. The only feature was 1:09:21.920 --> 1:09:24.640 t paying. That was the only one I allowed. But 1:09:24.720 --> 1:09:27.519 when it came down to the final stages and nobody 1:09:27.600 --> 1:09:30.479 was claiming this record like it was gonna be hard 1:09:30.520 --> 1:09:32.639 for powers to clear it, you know what I'm saying, 1:09:32.800 --> 1:09:35.000 Rico didn't want the record, even though I felt like 1:09:35.080 --> 1:09:39.479 it fit for her. Like I was like, my management 1:09:39.520 --> 1:09:41.160 was like, why don't we just put this record on 1:09:41.160 --> 1:09:42.600 the album? And I was just like I was on 1:09:42.640 --> 1:09:44.720 the fence about it at first, because I'm like, how 1:09:44.720 --> 1:09:46.640 the fuck we gonna get all this shit cleared? So 1:09:46.680 --> 1:09:50.800 many different moving parts, so many Yeah, and we all 1:09:50.840 --> 1:09:53.639 know each other though, and so we was of course 1:09:53.680 --> 1:09:55.680 we was gonna make it work. So we go to 1:09:55.760 --> 1:09:58.479 Electric Lady and I finished a little half. I added 1:09:58.520 --> 1:10:00.840 more to my verse because it was short, it was 1:10:01.040 --> 1:10:05.920 the same same length as Jizz Verse. I added more 1:10:05.960 --> 1:10:10.040 to it, and Robert Glasper started adding his like keys 1:10:10.080 --> 1:10:13.439 over it. Next thing, you know, the song was completed, 1:10:14.680 --> 1:10:17.920 and that's how that song came about. You didn't tell 1:10:17.960 --> 1:10:20.400 me how Buddy got on it. Oh buddy shows up 1:10:20.439 --> 1:10:23.200 and then he just ended up did the same shit. 1:10:23.320 --> 1:10:25.600 That's so crazy that like, because we don't hear that 1:10:25.760 --> 1:10:29.880 those kind of sessions anymore, especially that many people like 1:10:30.280 --> 1:10:32.960 it's always some email and that shit sounded like there 1:10:33.000 --> 1:10:36.960 was no email, all in person, and there's pictures and 1:10:37.120 --> 1:10:39.800 videos to prove that all of us was there that 1:10:39.920 --> 1:10:46.040 night recording this track. Tell me about you know, you 1:10:46.040 --> 1:10:51.759 have a crazy discography. How many plaques do you have? Three? 1:10:52.040 --> 1:10:56.759 Three plaques? That's big independently, Yeah, I was saying independent. 1:10:56.800 --> 1:11:00.960 I mean no, I mean that's huge. Your discography is 1:11:01.080 --> 1:11:06.479 very diverse, it's very vast. What is your If I 1:11:06.560 --> 1:11:09.120 had to ask you what your favorite album is, it's 1:11:09.160 --> 1:11:11.760 probably gonna be this one excluding this one. How about that? 1:11:15.800 --> 1:11:18.840 Excluding this one? Yeah? Shit, I can't tell you, bro, 1:11:19.640 --> 1:11:22.080 I don't really got like a favorite album. Like I 1:11:22.080 --> 1:11:25.559 hate looking at my old work. What is the song 1:11:25.600 --> 1:11:27.880 that you hear that's popular of yours or that you 1:11:27.920 --> 1:11:31.240 hate to perform because it's like so old And you're like, 1:11:31.360 --> 1:11:34.000 I'm so I've evolved so much past this, but the 1:11:34.040 --> 1:11:37.320 fans fucking love it. I mean, I would say ultimately, 1:11:37.360 --> 1:11:40.720 but I love that song. It's fucking great, you know, 1:11:41.280 --> 1:11:42.840 like I would say Claude Cobain, but I love that 1:11:42.920 --> 1:11:44.920 song too. I like Ricky, but I love that song too. 1:11:44.920 --> 1:11:48.360 And those are my hiss. But one song that I like, 1:11:48.760 --> 1:11:51.640 I don't feel confident performing, but I love it so 1:11:51.720 --> 1:11:53.800 much because it's my favorite song that I ever made. 1:11:53.960 --> 1:11:59.800 Is this Life Okay? From Imperial? Is it like, is 1:11:59.840 --> 1:12:02.679 it weird to like when you put a track list together? Obviously, 1:12:02.760 --> 1:12:04.960 every time you put a new album out, you're like, 1:12:05.000 --> 1:12:06.559 when you go on tour, you have to change up, 1:12:06.560 --> 1:12:09.000 you switch up your track list. Is it kind of hard, 1:12:09.120 --> 1:12:13.360 like dropping some records that you've been performing for some years. 1:12:13.360 --> 1:12:14.800 It's like I'm kind of getting rid of some of 1:12:14.880 --> 1:12:17.280 my kids on this tour. Yeah, I mean at first 1:12:17.320 --> 1:12:20.000 it's hard, and then we like we would put those 1:12:20.040 --> 1:12:22.280 records back in, and then when the crowd doesn't move 1:12:22.280 --> 1:12:24.639 because they don't know it, we take them right back out. 1:12:24.960 --> 1:12:27.040 So it's like an almost like an always evolving play 1:12:27.200 --> 1:12:29.519 like track list. When you're when you're when you do 1:12:29.560 --> 1:12:31.759 your tours, are you gonna be torn? For this album, 1:12:32.120 --> 1:12:33.840 of course. Yeah, I mean, I don't know, man, some 1:12:33.880 --> 1:12:36.800 people are weird out by COVID still and give a fuck. 1:12:36.840 --> 1:12:41.960 I caught COVID twice twice? Was it the omicron? Was 1:12:42.000 --> 1:12:44.240 it the O G COVID? For Nah, I didn't get 1:12:44.240 --> 1:12:46.479 the og COVID. I didn't get the killer COVID. I 1:12:46.439 --> 1:12:49.400 don't think. Okay, thank god, but nah, I got on 1:12:49.479 --> 1:12:53.240 COVID last year in July, on July fourth. Actually didn't 1:12:53.240 --> 1:12:55.120 even know. I just thought the ship was allergies and 1:12:55.160 --> 1:12:58.759 I was moving around jogging all types of shit. Actually, 1:12:58.880 --> 1:13:02.759 one of the tracks on this album Mental, I wrapped 1:13:02.760 --> 1:13:04.880 that while I had COVID and I didn't even know 1:13:05.880 --> 1:13:08.200 COVID track. Yeah, that was the COVID track. Did you 1:13:08.280 --> 1:13:10.920 vax that thing up? As Juvenile would say, did I 1:13:11.080 --> 1:13:13.479 vex that thing? Did you see the Juvenile I vexed 1:13:13.479 --> 1:13:15.800 that thing? Did you see that? Did you see the video? 1:13:16.240 --> 1:13:19.240 You didn't see the music video they paid Juvenile to do. No, 1:13:19.920 --> 1:13:23.559 Oh my god, it's so good. Juvenile did a remix 1:13:23.560 --> 1:13:25.360 of back that ass up and he called it vaxed 1:13:25.360 --> 1:13:28.559 that thing up and they did a music video. Oh 1:13:28.640 --> 1:13:34.000 my god, it was like a ju juvie vax. That 1:13:34.040 --> 1:13:36.759 thing up. I swear to it's it's It was. Probably 1:13:36.760 --> 1:13:38.280 one of my favorite things to come out of the 1:13:38.320 --> 1:13:41.120 pandemic was the fact that Juvenile did that. I was 1:13:41.160 --> 1:13:42.920 just like this, I don't know what to think about this, 1:13:43.000 --> 1:13:45.599 but I'm just glad it happened. It kind of sucks, 1:13:45.680 --> 1:13:49.920 kind of sad, but you know, oh my god, when 1:13:49.960 --> 1:13:53.160 pandering goes wrong, because it was like a government thing, 1:13:53.240 --> 1:13:56.840 you know, they're like, yo, how can we get minorities 1:13:56.840 --> 1:14:03.080 to get vaccinated? You know what? Juvenile hey man, Back then, 1:14:03.120 --> 1:14:05.840 it ain't sound sorry fetched. They got me to stop 1:14:05.960 --> 1:14:10.280 telling motherfuckers to stop vaping. I mean, yeah, vapor is 1:14:10.320 --> 1:14:12.760 probably not the greatest thing for you, yep, and so 1:14:13.080 --> 1:14:15.679 is covid. This is not the greatest thing for you either. 1:14:15.760 --> 1:14:18.120 So it is what it is. When you say they 1:14:18.160 --> 1:14:20.240 got you, did you do a campaign for that? Yeah, 1:14:20.360 --> 1:14:21.960 I had to keep it up for a few months 1:14:22.000 --> 1:14:23.800 and shit. And then it was like, why would you 1:14:23.800 --> 1:14:26.000 do a campaign of no vapor? And I was like, well, shit, 1:14:26.080 --> 1:14:29.320 I was already telling motherfuckers stop vaping for free, might 1:14:29.360 --> 1:14:33.280 as well get the bag. Yeah, vaping's bad, and it's 1:14:33.320 --> 1:14:36.040 not far fetched from what I was already telling motherfuckers. 1:14:36.120 --> 1:14:37.640 It's not like I was just out the blue just 1:14:37.680 --> 1:14:39.519 being like, hey, you stop vaping. Do you have a 1:14:39.560 --> 1:14:43.479 friend that vapes, like like a serious vapor, Like it 1:14:43.520 --> 1:14:46.000 was my booking agent. I got him to stop vaping. 1:14:46.040 --> 1:14:47.640 They won't like like if you have a friend that 1:14:47.680 --> 1:14:49.639 has like a hardcore vapor, it's like it's like attached 1:14:49.720 --> 1:14:52.680 to them, Like it's like the big rig with the 1:14:52.680 --> 1:14:54.840 little thing. I know people that are still vaping, Like 1:14:54.920 --> 1:14:58.160 one of my I ain't gonna name his name, but like, yeah, 1:14:58.160 --> 1:14:59.960 he'd be vaping. I'd be like, man, that should be smelling. 1:15:00.000 --> 1:15:01.439 I came here, I was like, man, get this shit 1:15:01.439 --> 1:15:03.120 out of here. Though. I feel like one of those 1:15:03.120 --> 1:15:07.960 big vape rigs. A Fox Racing T shirts, some cargo shorts, 1:15:08.000 --> 1:15:12.759 some DC shoes, Oh my god, just a busted down 1:15:13.320 --> 1:15:19.439 black and white trucker hat and ICP playing. When I 1:15:19.439 --> 1:15:22.559 think of vapors, that's what I think of. Well, hey, 1:15:22.600 --> 1:15:25.120 so look the album is out March twenty fifth. Yep, 1:15:25.680 --> 1:15:29.120 the twenty fifth. Why they get break down the title 1:15:29.320 --> 1:15:32.519 because the title is is yeah, it's a lot, Okay, 1:15:32.600 --> 1:15:35.280 the whole thing with the whole title melt my I 1:15:35.280 --> 1:15:37.559 See a Future. When I first made that title, it 1:15:37.560 --> 1:15:39.880 was supposed to come out after Taboo, and I just thought, like, 1:15:40.120 --> 1:15:43.040 I I made this long ass title. It sound fire, 1:15:43.240 --> 1:15:45.000 that's all I thought it was. I was like, damn 1:15:45.160 --> 1:15:46.960 if I was thinking of a fire name or album 1:15:47.000 --> 1:15:49.040 what I call it? And I was like, my I 1:15:49.080 --> 1:15:51.280 see your future. I was like, shit, that shit, it 1:15:51.360 --> 1:15:55.480 sounds hard. But as I started working on the album, 1:15:55.640 --> 1:15:59.559 it was pretty much about awareness at a point, and 1:15:59.600 --> 1:16:01.000 then I was like, but I'm not gonna name an 1:16:01.040 --> 1:16:04.360 album awareness. Yeah, that's like that's whack as fuck, Like 1:16:04.400 --> 1:16:07.360 I ain't gonna name my album awareness be a terrible 1:16:07.400 --> 1:16:10.400 album name. He's like, awareness, we need to be aware. 1:16:10.560 --> 1:16:13.800 Like shut up, like you know what I'm saying. You've 1:16:13.840 --> 1:16:16.519 already made people aware to stop baping. Yeah. Of course 1:16:16.560 --> 1:16:21.760 awareness was done exactly so when I made so when 1:16:21.760 --> 1:16:24.800 I started working on it more it was more so 1:16:24.960 --> 1:16:27.960 about myself and it's discovering who I am, and you know, 1:16:28.080 --> 1:16:31.280 like a self discovery type of thing and flaws and everything, 1:16:31.400 --> 1:16:32.840 what I'm good at and what I'm not good at, 1:16:32.920 --> 1:16:35.000 what I need to work on, what I don't need 1:16:35.000 --> 1:16:38.479 to work on, you know, And it just became about 1:16:38.520 --> 1:16:41.920 melting the perception who of what people thought? I was 1:16:42.560 --> 1:16:45.519 all right, you know because during the quarantine, you know, 1:16:45.720 --> 1:16:49.639 before that, before we all had to isolate, people were 1:16:49.640 --> 1:16:51.800 telling me, Yo, you're the greatest rapper, or you're this, 1:16:52.280 --> 1:16:55.240 or you're that, or you're a great performer, or you're 1:16:55.240 --> 1:16:57.160 the best rapper all the time, or you're this. But 1:16:57.240 --> 1:17:01.400 the moment quarantine happened, all that shit did not exist anymore. 1:17:02.760 --> 1:17:06.080 What do you mean that shit didn't exist? You're just 1:17:06.120 --> 1:17:11.120 getting like praises praise. So when people wasn't telling me 1:17:11.200 --> 1:17:13.920 who Denzel Curry was, then who are you? Who the 1:17:13.960 --> 1:17:18.200 fuck am I? Exactly? That's real if you Yeah, because 1:17:18.200 --> 1:17:20.360 if that's always happening, because you're always out, you're alway 1:17:20.400 --> 1:17:23.000 running around, you're always seeing people, you can kind of 1:17:23.080 --> 1:17:25.479 just live off of that. Yeah, and you're living off 1:17:25.479 --> 1:17:28.000 your own high. Yeah, you're smelling your own high. You're 1:17:28.000 --> 1:17:31.240 smelling yeah. No, it's real roses a bit. And you 1:17:31.280 --> 1:17:34.960 can exist in that way until you can't until it's 1:17:34.960 --> 1:17:37.519 all gone. And then once it's all gone, you are 1:17:38.120 --> 1:17:41.040 completely on human level. Yep, with everybody, you were on 1:17:41.120 --> 1:17:43.639 the same plan field. You get know what I'm saying, 1:17:43.760 --> 1:17:47.680 Anything could happen. So once I got to that point 1:17:47.720 --> 1:17:49.280 where I was like, who am I? It just took 1:17:49.439 --> 1:17:52.519 two years to figure out and like do a little 1:17:52.560 --> 1:17:55.240 soul searching and self discovery the time with the time 1:17:55.280 --> 1:17:57.760 I did have, So the pandemic was great for you 1:17:57.840 --> 1:18:01.080 personally personal growth wise. Hell yeah, I think, I mean, 1:18:01.120 --> 1:18:02.559 I think I feel like I still got shipped. I 1:18:02.640 --> 1:18:04.760 need to work on. Of course, you're never going to 1:18:04.800 --> 1:18:06.360 not have shit. You should work on. No one's ever 1:18:06.360 --> 1:18:11.040 gonna be perfect. But as in being a totally perfect person, 1:18:11.120 --> 1:18:14.160 I'm not gonna be that. Being a totally flawed person, 1:18:14.200 --> 1:18:17.439 I'm not gonna be that either. That's fair. Well, shout 1:18:17.439 --> 1:18:19.720 out to my guy. I appreciate you finally pulling up. Man. 1:18:20.000 --> 1:18:22.439 I'm glad to be here anytime. Man, just let me 1:18:22.520 --> 1:18:24.040 know when you need me to come back, because I'll 1:18:24.080 --> 1:18:27.280 come back. The album is crazy, I was saying, like, 1:18:27.400 --> 1:18:29.479 I mean, I've listened to pretty much every album this year. 1:18:29.520 --> 1:18:30.840 It's like up there for best album of the year. 1:18:30.840 --> 1:18:32.000 I mean, I know we're only a quarter of the 1:18:32.000 --> 1:18:34.880 way through the year, but it's an amazing body of work. Man, 1:18:35.160 --> 1:18:38.920 So congrats. Oh this been on my mind just for 1:18:39.000 --> 1:18:41.519 floor to rappers. Four or five four. Make sure y'all 1:18:41.560 --> 1:18:44.920 check that motherfucker out too. Okay, let's get it out there. 1:18:44.960 --> 1:18:48.320 Four or five four? Yeah, four five four. I'm a peep. 1:18:48.520 --> 1:18:53.960 There it is, and damn is that it? That's all. 1:18:54.080 --> 1:18:57.360 I don't know what else. Ship. I always gotta, I gotta. 1:18:57.479 --> 1:18:59.600 I gotta end with this. You want to rap? Hell? No? 1:19:00.160 --> 1:19:03.080 Nah nah? I just wanted to end with like we 1:19:03.120 --> 1:19:06.519 still recording. Yeah, all right. If you're not a Denzel 1:19:06.560 --> 1:19:10.160 Curry fan for whatever reason, if you think I'm trash, 1:19:10.439 --> 1:19:13.320 if you think I'm ass, if you think I'm garbage, 1:19:14.479 --> 1:19:17.680 listen to this fucking album. And I bet you, I 1:19:17.800 --> 1:19:20.040 bet all my money that you would like this shit. 1:19:21.479 --> 1:19:24.559 If you were a Denzel Curry fan and you left 1:19:24.560 --> 1:19:28.760 for whatever reason, bump this fucking album because you're gonna 1:19:28.760 --> 1:19:31.559 be a Denzel Curry fan again. That's what I believe. 1:19:31.880 --> 1:19:33.920 There's no doubt in my mind. There ain't gonna be 1:19:33.920 --> 1:19:37.320 no skips on this bitch. And you notice that's what 1:19:37.320 --> 1:19:41.160 I'm leaving off. Zero skips, fourteen tracks, zero skips, zero skips. 1:19:41.240 --> 1:19:46.160 It's two seven. I'm channeling God twice. Supreme mathematics. There 1:19:46.160 --> 1:19:46.439 it is