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Speaker 1: Bloomberg Audio Studios, podcasts, radio news. I'm Matt Miller and

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Speaker 1: I'm Hannah Elliott, and this is Hot Pursuit.

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Speaker 2: We have a very special guest for you this week.

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Speaker 2: President of General Motors Mark Royce joins us to talk

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Speaker 2: about a number of interesting things.

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Speaker 3: But Corvette records, I think are front and front.

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Speaker 1: Center Corvette records for sure. Obviously GM has had a

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Speaker 1: rough few quarters, just like every other automaker, but you

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Speaker 1: and I have business wise, yeah, business wise, but you know,

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Speaker 1: you and I both have driven recent GM products, recent

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Speaker 1: GM EV products, and we've actually been pleasantly surprised, I

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Speaker 1: think on both of us.

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Speaker 3: I definitely have I feel like.

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Speaker 2: Every time I get into an EV or I really

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Speaker 2: that I'm gonna be delivered an EV to test out,

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Speaker 2: I'm like, kind of I'm not bummed out, but I'm

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Speaker 2: just like not excited. And then I drive them. And

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Speaker 2: at first, of course they were fast and the torque

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Speaker 2: instant torque was kind of fun. But I've really started

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Speaker 2: to notice that I like the driving dynamics of the

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Speaker 2: newer ones, and charging them isn't as much of a

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Speaker 2: pain in the ass as it had been in the past. Certainly, faster,

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Speaker 2: and I know more about how it works. So the

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Speaker 2: learning curve it's pretty steep, but once you get there,

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Speaker 2: it's just not as bad as I have always thought.

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Speaker 4: It would be.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it'll be very interesting to see if,

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Speaker 1: like as popular opinion sort of cool somewhat on EVS

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Speaker 1: at the moment, whether these good products get lost in

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Speaker 1: that attitude shift or not, Like, can GM have the

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Speaker 1: staying power and obviously they have strategies like making some

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Speaker 1: vehicles with Hyundai for instance, can they sort of ride

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Speaker 1: out this momentary dip in the cooling of interests in EVS.

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Speaker 2: I wonder if the whole industry can ride it at Yes,

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Speaker 2: I've been thinking about this all week.

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Speaker 1: I wonder Ferrari, it's temporary.

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Speaker 3: It's temporary.

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Speaker 2: But is there is there anyone who's buying evs now

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Speaker 1: I don't think so. I don't think so.

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Speaker 2: I don't think so unless you're someone like like, we

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Speaker 2: get a chance to test drive these vehicles all the time,

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Speaker 2: but your average consumer maybe you can take a test

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Speaker 2: drive at a deal or for twenty minutes or an

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Speaker 2: hour max. So they don't get a chance to see

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Speaker 2: the benefits or learn the way we do, and I

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Speaker 2: wonder if it's gonna work out. I've always said I'm

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Speaker 2: sure EV's are gonna be the future, but are they really?

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Speaker 3: Is it gonna you know?

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Speaker 2: I also think there's real differentiation because you know, I

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Speaker 2: loved the Dodge Charger EV. I loved the driving dynamics,

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Speaker 2: I love the styling, but at the end of the day,

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Speaker 2: it gets far less than two hundred miles to a charge,

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Speaker 2: So I'm not gonna buy that.

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Speaker 1: At the end of the day. Maybe that's your second EV.

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Speaker 1: And how many people are buying two EV's not a lot,

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Speaker 1: but like maybe the Dodge is your second EV on

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Speaker 1: top of one that does have more range.

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Speaker 2: Well, the thing is, I've noticed that these GM vehicles

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Speaker 2: can't remember what the EV nine was and that was

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Speaker 2: I think pretty impressive, but.

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Speaker 1: I think it was around three.

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Speaker 3: So that's that's the mark you've got to hit.

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Speaker 2: And totally they're getting that with the Silverado, EV, with

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Speaker 2: the Hummer, with the Cadillac and now recently I've driven

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Speaker 2: the Blazer and the Vistick and they all had that.

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Speaker 2: I don't think the Vistick was quite as much, but

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Speaker 2: they had these giant two hundred kilowat hour battery packs

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Speaker 1: Yeah, the Optic has I think two hundred or sorry,

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Speaker 1: three hundred and two miles and I had zero anxiety

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Speaker 1: and I drove all I would find reasons to drive it,

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Speaker 1: which says a lot, because usually I am not wanting

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Speaker 2: But well, there just seem to be so many more

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Speaker 2: I have coming up. I have the new Ix to

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Speaker 2: I have I'm finally going to drive a Rivian like

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Speaker 3: So I have a lot of evs stacked.

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Speaker 1: Wow. I mean, did you ever think you'd be here, Matt?

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Speaker 2: No, And I mean the funny thing is, the more

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Speaker 2: I drive them, the more I think, uh, maybe I

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Speaker 2: buy one as a family. There's so many more family cars, right,

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Speaker 2: I'm looking for I'm waiting for. And I talked to

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Speaker 2: eventually coming out with this three row EV, and if

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Speaker 2: they do a super duty version of it, then I'm

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Speaker 3: A super duty three row EV.

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Speaker 2: But they haven't made a super duty EV since super

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Speaker 2: duty three row since, you know, for an ice vehicle,

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Speaker 2: since the Excursion for Ford, and there used to be

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Speaker 1: So you would consider an EV as the primary family vehicle.

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Speaker 2: Wow Wow, Yeah, because you leave it plugged in at

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Speaker 2: your house then when you want to take a trip.

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Speaker 2: I've I've realized how superchargers are, high speed chargers work,

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Speaker 2: and I know how to find them, so I'm not

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Speaker 2: as worried as I used to be about it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. That's interesting because I used to kind of think, Okay,

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Speaker 1: most people are going to have a combustion vehicle as

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Speaker 1: but they want the stability and safety emotionally speaking of

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Speaker 3: Now for me, it's flipped interesting, right, I will be

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Speaker 3: in the next couple of years. Happy to have an

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Speaker 2: The family as the grocery getter, but I'm going to

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Speaker 2: have you know, a fire breathing.

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Speaker 1: Well that car that is actually if we're talking like

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Speaker 1: long term, that's what everybody has said about these fun

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Speaker 1: sports cars that we all like to drive, like you know,

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Speaker 1: but we still have them around because they're fun to drive,

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Speaker 1: and they have personality and character. And there's the argument that,

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Speaker 1: you know, internal combustion will never completely go away because

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Speaker 1: there will be hobbyists an enthusiast who maintain the cars

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Speaker 3: I prefer the term enthusiast.

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Speaker 1: I hope no one ever calls me a hobbyist, hobbyist, enthusiast.

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Speaker 3: Young me would have hated it. Old me was going

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Speaker 3: to be a hobbyist.

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Speaker 2: All right, let's get to this interview then, with Mark Royce,

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Speaker 2: the president of General Motors. I'm really happy to have

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Speaker 2: you Mark. I'm obviously we're both huge fans of your products.

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Speaker 2: That you know, Hannah has actually bought a number of Corvettes,

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Speaker 1: It's true this is true.

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Speaker 4: Wow, that's awesome.

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Speaker 2: I just got out of the Cadillac Vistick as well,

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Speaker 2: shocking to anyone who knows me to hear that come

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Speaker 2: out of my mouth. But I wonder what you think

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Speaker 2: about the the evolution of you know, the driving capabilities

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Speaker 2: of your electric vehicles.

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Speaker 4: That's a great, great question, because I'm with you. I

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Speaker 4: just bought a Vistick, you know, and I have three

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Speaker 4: kids and now they're they're having boyfriend's girlfriends and spouses

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Speaker 4: So we're you know, we we we we have one

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Speaker 4: to say, you know, the more I'm in that type

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Speaker 4: the one I bought has air ride and four wheel steer,

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Speaker 4: and you know, it's everything. It's really everything you could imagine,

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Speaker 4: and the fuel economy and the range is right in there,

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Speaker 4: you know, at over three hundred and almost all of them,

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Speaker 4: in fact, all of them. It's really not a compromise anymore.

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Speaker 4: And they're fun to drive, and they're beautifully quiet, and

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Speaker 4: especially that the Cadillacs are, you know, everything the Cadillacts

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Speaker 3: I mean even even the Chevy Blazer EV.

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Speaker 2: I drove the SS version and I had a longer

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Speaker 2: little bit nervous about, you know, doing four hundred miles

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Speaker 2: in electric vehicle, but the car knew where the next

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Speaker 2: supercharger was. It took us literally twelve minutes to charge

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Speaker 3: We used to call it a sleeper.

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Speaker 2: Right, a big station wagon that you don't know is

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Speaker 2: Autobahn journey. So I just more and more often as

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Speaker 2: we get the variety. I'm really impressed by the driving

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Speaker 4: It's great you say that, because I would say that

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Speaker 4: this has been written as well by other people like yourself,

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Speaker 4: that our vehicle dynamics and our integration is world class.

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Speaker 4: It's it could be the best in the industry. And

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Speaker 4: six years, and so you know these that's what they

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Speaker 4: stage of development, and we pick, you know, a target

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Speaker 4: so there's no surprise when we launch that we're going

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Speaker 4: a big competitive advantage. So I'm happy you recognize that mark.

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Speaker 1: We just this week ran my review of the Optic,

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Speaker 1: which I also thought was really solid, and I remember

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Speaker 1: when that car first debuted. Hun Kim was telling me that,

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Speaker 1: you know, GM has seen an increase of younger buyers,

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Speaker 1: younger than that. Is that who you find buying vehicles

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Speaker 4: I think if you look at Cadillac as a whole,

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Speaker 4: we're under you know, this is a this has been

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Speaker 4: a long journey to transform the brand, and you know,

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Speaker 4: the portfolio on the commitment that the company has put

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Speaker 4: tell that story. And I would say that, you know,

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Speaker 4: if you look at the demographics of Cadillac along with Buick,

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Speaker 4: we're seeing an influx of younger people and it's changing

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Speaker 4: the ages, but it's also conquesting. And so you know,

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Speaker 4: we're running about seventy percent conquest on our Cadillac evs,

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Speaker 4: Which that's a great story right there, right Yeah.

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Speaker 4: three engineers and people like them in our company anyway,

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Speaker 4: know how to integrate the car, so they know how

436
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Speaker 4: to set the car up. They know how to develop

437
00:24:24,640 --> 00:24:27,800
Speaker 4: that setup and they develop it. If you look at

438
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Speaker 4: the Corvette. We did this the other day for the

439
00:24:29,920 --> 00:24:31,840
Speaker 4: first time in a long time, is we drove the

440
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Speaker 4: whole portfolio. So these guys did everything from the base Corvette,

441
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Speaker 4: which is a sweetheart, right, Z fifty one, you know

442
00:24:40,040 --> 00:24:44,240
Speaker 4: LT two find really fun car all the way through

443
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Speaker 4: E ray, Z six, z R one to Z one X.

444
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Speaker 4: So they had seats doing the vehicle dynamics on all

445
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Speaker 4: of them. So each one of those cars is completely different,

446
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Speaker 4: and it's because of them and their knowledge of the

447
00:25:00,600 --> 00:25:04,080
Speaker 4: eight can deliver and they architect to the help out.

448
00:25:04,240 --> 00:25:06,239
Speaker 4: You know, they help architect the car and design the

449
00:25:06,240 --> 00:25:08,760
Speaker 4: car based on what we want these entries to do.

450
00:25:09,200 --> 00:25:12,399
Speaker 4: So it starts very early in the development process and

451
00:25:12,480 --> 00:25:17,359
Speaker 4: they continually develop those those you know five entries.

452
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Speaker 1: So yeah, can we talk about what Cadillac is doing

453
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Speaker 1: in motorsport in general, and I think these records totally

454
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Speaker 1: feed into it. Obviously, you have the F one team

455
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Speaker 1: coming next year, which is so exciting. I know obviously

456
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Speaker 1: we've talked about this before, but your you are a

457
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Speaker 1: motorsports guy, Mark, it seems from the outside that we

458
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Speaker 1: are really on a high in terms of just motorsport

459
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Speaker 1: awareness in the country. In general. Are you seeing that

460
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Speaker 1: and how is that feeding back into the brand.

461
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Speaker 4: We are. It's a great question, Hannah, because if you

462
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Speaker 4: look at I was looking at the I had a

463
00:25:54,520 --> 00:25:57,760
Speaker 4: motorsports meaning yesterday, and we looked at the activation that

464
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Speaker 4: happens therese different rays is actually around the world, and

465
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Speaker 4: then the conversion to sales and you know, you know,

466
00:26:06,560 --> 00:26:08,240
Speaker 4: if you go to a race and you go to

467
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Speaker 4: our stand and you look at the cars that were racing,

468
00:26:10,680 --> 00:26:13,560
Speaker 4: and you look at the cars that we're making, there's

469
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Speaker 4: a direct lineage on almost all of them, whether it's powertrain,

470
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Speaker 4: chassis design, whatever that is. You can see it. And

471
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Speaker 4: people people sign up to get more information around buying

472
00:26:25,680 --> 00:26:28,800
Speaker 4: a car, and then you track the funnel, if you will,

473
00:26:29,320 --> 00:26:32,480
Speaker 4: from the awareness to whether they register a car or not.

474
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Speaker 4: So we've got good data around that and that comes

475
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Speaker 4: from having great, great attendance, but also great interest in

476
00:26:40,200 --> 00:26:43,760
Speaker 4: motorsports across the country and frankly across the world. And

477
00:26:43,960 --> 00:26:47,040
Speaker 4: F one is really the pinnacle of that. You know,

478
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Speaker 4: over half of the fans and F one for instance,

479
00:26:50,280 --> 00:26:56,199
Speaker 4: are female, and so that's a tremendous, uh you know

480
00:26:56,560 --> 00:27:01,240
Speaker 4: statement there, because that is hardcore, you know, worldwide stage

481
00:27:01,359 --> 00:27:04,359
Speaker 4: and so but that's just one of them, you know,

482
00:27:04,400 --> 00:27:08,639
Speaker 4: one of the stats, and we see crowds whatever venue

483
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Speaker 4: we're racing in, and we're racing in just about all

484
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Speaker 4: of them. To some extent, we see a great, great

485
00:27:14,480 --> 00:27:18,119
Speaker 4: tie in for the brand. But also, you know, we

486
00:27:18,160 --> 00:27:20,080
Speaker 4: can make great cars, but if no one knows about them,

487
00:27:20,119 --> 00:27:23,679
Speaker 4: that's a problem, right, It's hard to sell cars. And

488
00:27:23,760 --> 00:27:27,400
Speaker 4: so this is a pretty much a core for us

489
00:27:27,440 --> 00:27:29,600
Speaker 4: to get brand awareness, to get people in our cars.

490
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Speaker 4: But it's also as you as you said, there's a

491
00:27:32,520 --> 00:27:35,520
Speaker 4: tie into what we produce, what we engineer, and what

492
00:27:35,560 --> 00:27:39,320
Speaker 4: we integrate, and it comes directly from that. Our Motorsports Center,

493
00:27:39,600 --> 00:27:43,600
Speaker 4: for instance, in Charlotte, North Carolina, is set up to

494
00:27:44,119 --> 00:27:50,320
Speaker 4: really develop all of our motorsports vehicles, powertrains teams with

495
00:27:50,480 --> 00:27:54,320
Speaker 4: Pontiac here and then are also core engineering of our

496
00:27:54,400 --> 00:27:58,119
Speaker 4: vehicles here in Detroit. So it's really quite wonderful. And

497
00:27:58,160 --> 00:28:00,879
Speaker 4: then of course we we are now spreading that to

498
00:28:01,920 --> 00:28:07,520
Speaker 4: Indiana and then into Silverstone in the UK. So there's

499
00:28:08,240 --> 00:28:11,080
Speaker 4: it's quite a wonderful footprint and you know a lot

500
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Speaker 4: of people come to want to come to work for

501
00:28:12,720 --> 00:28:13,560
Speaker 4: us because of it too.

502
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Speaker 2: I have to say that, you know. So we saw you,

503
00:28:16,440 --> 00:28:19,359
Speaker 2: Hannah and I both saw you at Lamar at the Cadillac,

504
00:28:21,000 --> 00:28:27,600
Speaker 2: at the Cadillac station and watching that race. That was

505
00:28:27,680 --> 00:28:30,720
Speaker 2: honestly one of the best nights of my life, you know,

506
00:28:30,840 --> 00:28:35,320
Speaker 2: because you're there, and Gil West was there, and Dario

507
00:28:35,320 --> 00:28:38,200
Speaker 2: Francti was there, and we're just all hanging out like

508
00:28:38,240 --> 00:28:40,400
Speaker 2: the guys from Multi Mattic and the guys from Singer.

509
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Speaker 3: Watching this race through.

510
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Speaker 2: The night was just unbelievable, And the Cadillac sounded better

511
00:28:46,000 --> 00:28:49,360
Speaker 2: than any of the cars out there. I just loved

512
00:28:49,360 --> 00:28:54,800
Speaker 2: it so much. Next year that's the Hypercar Entry. Of course,

513
00:28:54,840 --> 00:28:58,760
Speaker 2: next year Ford is entering that. And I've always wondered,

514
00:28:59,120 --> 00:29:03,160
Speaker 2: do you ever see like Jim Farley around at these things?

515
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Speaker 2: How competitive are you guys? Do you guys like not

516
00:29:05,560 --> 00:29:07,640
Speaker 2: talk to each other? Does he get super mad if

517
00:29:07,640 --> 00:29:11,400
Speaker 2: you if you break his Mustang GTD nerve burgering record.

518
00:29:11,880 --> 00:29:14,520
Speaker 4: Well, you saw what he wrote, so I don't think

519
00:29:14,520 --> 00:29:16,600
Speaker 4: that was mad or what.

520
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Speaker 1: An he right, Mark, I didn't see it. I missed it.

521
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Speaker 4: You said congratulations to the Corvette team game on.

522
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Speaker 1: That's great, that's good. Yeah, that's good.

523
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Speaker 3: Good, healthy comminations, right.

524
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Speaker 4: I mean, that's that's what it's supposed to be. That's

525
00:29:30,560 --> 00:29:33,600
Speaker 4: what it's all about. Right. So no, of course not.

526
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Speaker 4: We we saw each other at role X to kick

527
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Speaker 4: off the race season this year. I've seen Bill Ford

528
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Speaker 4: in quite a few races too, so that's nice and

529
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Speaker 4: h it's fun because it's not like that. It's for instance,

530
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Speaker 4: I chair the This is not widely known, but I

531
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Speaker 4: chair the Henry Ford Museum Board here in Detroit, and

532
00:29:57,120 --> 00:30:01,000
Speaker 4: so you know, I'm pretty pretty active in that and

533
00:30:01,040 --> 00:30:03,440
Speaker 4: I love the place, and you know, that's our that's

534
00:30:03,480 --> 00:30:06,880
Speaker 4: our museum, and so I'm honored to do that, and

535
00:30:06,880 --> 00:30:09,320
Speaker 4: it's you know, it's got got a lot of Ford involvement,

536
00:30:09,480 --> 00:30:13,480
Speaker 4: and so you know, it's a look, we compete every

537
00:30:13,560 --> 00:30:18,160
Speaker 4: day in sales and and with our companies, but no,

538
00:30:18,600 --> 00:30:20,360
Speaker 4: it's a you know, it's a small world.

539
00:30:20,440 --> 00:30:23,040
Speaker 1: So yeah, now I gotta ask. We're going, of course

540
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Speaker 1: into Monterey Car Week next week, and I know Cadillac

541
00:30:26,960 --> 00:30:31,560
Speaker 1: will be there. I hear they're showing something of interest.

542
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Speaker 1: What can you tell us about what we're going to

543
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Speaker 1: see next week?

544
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Speaker 4: Well, it's kind of like in Chevrolet, so you'll see

545
00:30:39,800 --> 00:30:43,600
Speaker 4: see some things that are pretty pretty remarkable.

546
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Speaker 1: And yes I misspoke, Chevrolet, really this is this is

547
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Speaker 1: the point. Maybe we can we can edit that out,

548
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Speaker 1: but Chevrolet.

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Speaker 4: H Yeah, Chevrolet will show a nod to the future,

550
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Speaker 4: and the nod will be not unlike what we did

551
00:31:02,120 --> 00:31:07,360
Speaker 4: with Celestic if you if you remember, the selected Celestic

552
00:31:07,400 --> 00:31:11,400
Speaker 4: for Cadillac was actually done before the rest of the

553
00:31:11,840 --> 00:31:14,600
Speaker 4: vehicle portfolio you see today. The reason why we did

554
00:31:14,680 --> 00:31:19,680
Speaker 4: it was to precisely define what the design language was

555
00:31:19,720 --> 00:31:22,680
Speaker 4: going to be for Cadillac as we transformed the brand.

556
00:31:23,520 --> 00:31:26,240
Speaker 4: And so a lot of that Celestic, as you see,

557
00:31:27,160 --> 00:31:30,720
Speaker 4: shows up in everything from Optic to Vistic to lyric,

558
00:31:32,160 --> 00:31:35,920
Speaker 4: even the ice, the i Q, the e V i Q,

559
00:31:36,640 --> 00:31:39,040
Speaker 4: and then you see it in starting to show up

560
00:31:39,040 --> 00:31:42,120
Speaker 4: in our ice ice products for Cadillac too. So there's

561
00:31:42,160 --> 00:31:44,920
Speaker 4: a consistency of brand. And so what you'll see I

562
00:31:44,920 --> 00:31:49,720
Speaker 4: think in Pebble Beach is a really remarkable set of

563
00:31:49,800 --> 00:31:54,520
Speaker 4: cars that hint to the design language is you'll see

564
00:31:55,840 --> 00:31:58,240
Speaker 4: on some of the incredible cars that show of length.

565
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Speaker 1: A set I'm very much set of cars.

566
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Speaker 3: This is good, I'm very much looking forward.

567
00:32:05,040 --> 00:32:07,480
Speaker 1: Two future cars. Good, that's what we got out of them.

568
00:32:07,520 --> 00:32:08,120
Speaker 1: From Chevy.

569
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Speaker 4: Well, yeah, two concepts that we'll really have a nod

570
00:32:14,960 --> 00:32:17,040
Speaker 4: to the future. I think he'll be blown away.

571
00:32:17,560 --> 00:32:17,760
Speaker 3: Mark.

572
00:32:17,800 --> 00:32:20,600
Speaker 2: Can I ask about you know, we've talked to other

573
00:32:20,880 --> 00:32:24,440
Speaker 2: obviously GM executives and engineers on this program who kind

574
00:32:24,440 --> 00:32:28,560
Speaker 2: of shot down the idea of a Corvette SUV. But

575
00:32:28,680 --> 00:32:32,320
Speaker 2: the brand is strong enough I think you'd probably agree

576
00:32:33,080 --> 00:32:37,760
Speaker 2: to stand on its own and other you know, Lamborghini

577
00:32:37,800 --> 00:32:40,840
Speaker 2: and Portia and other sports car brands have done so

578
00:32:40,960 --> 00:32:46,520
Speaker 2: well with SUV's Ferrari. Why not make a Corvette suv.

579
00:32:46,640 --> 00:32:48,560
Speaker 2: It seems like people would buy it.

580
00:32:49,560 --> 00:32:51,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's hard to say that people would buy it,

581
00:32:52,280 --> 00:32:55,800
Speaker 4: to be honest, I know there's interest in it, but

582
00:32:55,840 --> 00:32:58,800
Speaker 4: there's also interest in CTSV wagons.

583
00:32:58,400 --> 00:33:02,320
Speaker 3: Right, oh yes, it's sticks right.

584
00:33:02,120 --> 00:33:04,640
Speaker 4: Right with sticks and those are I mean, I love

585
00:33:04,680 --> 00:33:07,520
Speaker 4: that stuff, I do. I just you know, it's it's

586
00:33:07,560 --> 00:33:14,560
Speaker 4: hard because Corvette is American sports car, and it's really

587
00:33:14,600 --> 00:33:19,240
Speaker 4: hard to make a derivative of that, at least right

588
00:33:19,240 --> 00:33:24,400
Speaker 4: now that that fits that. And so I think there's

589
00:33:25,000 --> 00:33:27,120
Speaker 4: there's much more to go on the c A platform

590
00:33:27,160 --> 00:33:33,120
Speaker 4: in terms of design and creating a new car, and

591
00:33:33,200 --> 00:33:36,800
Speaker 4: so I think that's really good and I just you know,

592
00:33:36,880 --> 00:33:38,920
Speaker 4: I don't want to lose what we have in terms

593
00:33:39,000 --> 00:33:41,600
Speaker 4: of a pure American sports car on it for now,

594
00:33:42,040 --> 00:33:45,840
Speaker 4: and I never say never, but it's pretty tough, you know,

595
00:33:46,480 --> 00:33:50,520
Speaker 4: because we have things like CTSVS right that are sedans

596
00:33:50,640 --> 00:33:54,560
Speaker 4: that are killer, right, and we have now the V

597
00:33:55,200 --> 00:33:59,080
Speaker 4: Lyrics right and the v Optics that are extremely fun

598
00:33:59,120 --> 00:34:02,160
Speaker 4: to drive, right, And so we've got we've got some

599
00:34:02,160 --> 00:34:07,680
Speaker 4: pretty pretty great, you know, more utility based performance vehicles

600
00:34:07,720 --> 00:34:11,520
Speaker 4: that I think uh are are are our great choices

601
00:34:11,880 --> 00:34:16,840
Speaker 4: as well. But for now, you know, Electrified with the

602
00:34:16,920 --> 00:34:19,640
Speaker 4: zero one X and the E Ray is a pretty

603
00:34:19,640 --> 00:34:21,840
Speaker 4: awesome deal that you don't have to plug in. And

604
00:34:21,880 --> 00:34:25,880
Speaker 4: then I'd say, you know, the we just announced we're

605
00:34:25,880 --> 00:34:29,000
Speaker 4: putting a new V eight into Tanawanda, and so you

606
00:34:29,040 --> 00:34:31,880
Speaker 4: know we're gonna there's gonna be some great power trains.

607
00:34:31,960 --> 00:34:32,839
Speaker 4: That's all I'm going to say.

608
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Speaker 1: All Right, well, that's a good, good way to end it.

609
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Speaker 1: We'll look forward to seeing those in the future. Of

610
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Speaker 1: Mark Royce, thank you so much for joining us.

611
00:34:40,080 --> 00:34:42,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, thanks for joining us, and thanks for building those things.

612
00:34:42,800 --> 00:34:44,880
Speaker 4: Thanks for having me on the show and and always

613
00:34:44,880 --> 00:34:45,840
Speaker 4: wonderful to Seaboat.

614
00:34:53,440 --> 00:34:55,280
Speaker 3: That was really cool.

615
00:34:55,920 --> 00:34:59,080
Speaker 2: Uh. Yeah, his his answer on motorsports is the best

616
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Speaker 2: one that I got.

617
00:35:00,760 --> 00:35:02,799
Speaker 1: I know, you know what I like about Mark. He

618
00:35:02,960 --> 00:35:06,480
Speaker 1: is plain spoken and he's diplomatic. He's not gonna tell

619
00:35:06,560 --> 00:35:09,920
Speaker 1: us what this cool uh you know world debut next

620
00:35:09,960 --> 00:35:13,160
Speaker 1: week is. He's he knows his rules, but he is

621
00:35:13,200 --> 00:35:13,880
Speaker 1: plain spoken.

622
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Speaker 2: I'm looking to speak to it. There's gonna be so

623
00:35:16,120 --> 00:35:17,360
Speaker 2: many cool things at Monterey.

624
00:35:17,440 --> 00:35:19,400
Speaker 3: You're so lucky. When are you actually gonna go?

625
00:35:20,280 --> 00:35:24,239
Speaker 1: I will be driving up to Monterey next Wednesday. I'll

626
00:35:24,280 --> 00:35:28,840
Speaker 1: be driving in Mercedes SL my bock.

627
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Speaker 2: Wo yes, so the l I guess that's a convertible, right.

628
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Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, I'll be looking forward to seeing how that goes.

629
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Speaker 1: But yeah, going up Wednesday, and there are so many

630
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Speaker 1: debuts happening. I know you've sent a few that you're

631
00:35:45,520 --> 00:35:47,360
Speaker 1: excited about, Matt.

632
00:35:47,600 --> 00:35:50,000
Speaker 2: Well, I mean I'm excited about the you know, I

633
00:35:50,080 --> 00:35:54,280
Speaker 2: always like the kind of after market Seema show Winners

634
00:35:54,320 --> 00:35:57,120
Speaker 2: and Ring Brothers is going to show an aston Martin

635
00:35:57,160 --> 00:35:58,160
Speaker 2: that I'm super pumped up.

636
00:35:58,239 --> 00:36:01,319
Speaker 1: That's going to be very cool. That's gonna be a SL.

637
00:36:01,120 --> 00:36:04,920
Speaker 2: Stands for sport light. Right, Yes, that's the idea, is it?

638
00:36:05,040 --> 00:36:05,759
Speaker 2: You think still that.

639
00:36:07,200 --> 00:36:11,800
Speaker 1: No, No, I don't think so. You know, I drove

640
00:36:11,920 --> 00:36:15,280
Speaker 1: the new modern Essa that they launched I think twenty

641
00:36:15,320 --> 00:36:17,480
Speaker 1: twenty three, and this is the my Box version, which

642
00:36:17,560 --> 00:36:19,840
Speaker 1: is going to be heavier. Surely, surely it's going to

643
00:36:19,880 --> 00:36:23,280
Speaker 1: be heavier, but we don't care. It's going to be awesome.

644
00:36:23,600 --> 00:36:25,600
Speaker 2: Well, last time you drove to Monterey, you were in

645
00:36:25,600 --> 00:36:27,000
Speaker 2: the Lamborghini Rev welto.

646
00:36:27,360 --> 00:36:31,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, that was a steep, steep, stiff kick in the

647
00:36:31,960 --> 00:36:33,359
Speaker 1: pants with a ticket on that.

648
00:36:33,760 --> 00:36:37,600
Speaker 2: Hopefully four ticket, plus you hired a lawyer, plus you

649
00:36:37,640 --> 00:36:38,280
Speaker 2: got points.

650
00:36:38,920 --> 00:36:41,360
Speaker 1: The lawyer couldn't even get me off. He couldn't, he

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Speaker 1: didn't get it reduced. He was kind of worthless in

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Speaker 1: the end. Actually that was a mistake, I know. So please,

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Speaker 1: I'm going to be on my best behavior on next Wednesday.

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Speaker 1: I'm going to be just driving like a grandma.

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Speaker 3: So you go Wednesday.

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Speaker 2: What are the things you're most looking forward to? It's

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Speaker 2: a what whole week of events? You stay until Monday Tuesday?

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Speaker 1: What I'm gonna you know what? I may drive back

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Speaker 1: on Sunday right after the concre or Monday morning. It

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Speaker 1: kind of depends on how Sunday goes and how how

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Speaker 1: tired and sunburned and hungover, I am after that. But yeah,

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Speaker 1: you know, there's the Motorlex Gala that Haggardy throws on

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Speaker 1: Wednesday night, which will be really cool and which anyone

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Speaker 1: who saw my stained glass piece on this really cool

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Speaker 1: fabricator who's putting stained glass windows in air cooled nine

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Speaker 1: to eleven's he will be showing some of his art

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Speaker 1: at the Motorlex Galus. So I'm excited about that Wednesday night,

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Speaker 1: and then that the broad Arrow auction is also Wednesday night,

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Speaker 1: that's a Haggarty event. And then throughout the week I'm

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Speaker 1: I actually am very excited to go to you know,

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Speaker 1: the RM auctions, the Good and Christie's auctions, just because

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Speaker 1: you know, we love talking about what cars we buy,

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Speaker 1: what's the market doing, so I'm really excited about that.

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Speaker 1: Of course, the Quail on Friday is where all of

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Speaker 1: the news and the debuts will be happening. I am

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Speaker 1: very excited now, I admit I've seen what Chevrolet will

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Speaker 1: be showing on Friday, and I'm excited for the world

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Speaker 1: to see. I can't say what it is because it's

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Speaker 1: under embargo, but I'm excited to see that car in

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Speaker 1: real life, and that day will be full of interviews

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Speaker 1: with executives, kind of like our conversation with Mark True.

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Speaker 2: I have an interview on that day with the CEO

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Speaker 2: of Lamborghini and an interview the CEO of Bentley Adrian.

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Speaker 2: But they'll be but I'm going to be back here

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Speaker 2: in New York in the studio and they're going to

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Speaker 2: be live via satellite on my show.

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Speaker 1: Well that's better than nothing. And actually we have Sandra Button,

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Speaker 1: the chairman of Pebble Beach Concor, coming on TV today

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Speaker 1: to talk with Carol and Jess. So that's everyone's looking

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Speaker 1: forward to it. I think it'll be a great time.

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Speaker 1: I'm also going to be driving in the Pebble Beach Tour,

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Speaker 1: which will be really fun, which is on Thursday morning,

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Speaker 1: and that's when all of the show cars have to drive.

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Speaker 1: I have an actual route down the highway to sort

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Speaker 1: of prove that they're roadworthy, that they can actually drive.

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Speaker 2: All right, I'm looking I'm looking forward to it, and

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Speaker 2: we will you and I will talk with Jim Farley,

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Speaker 2: the CEO of Ford from from Pebble Beach. That'll be

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Speaker 2: That'll be our hot pursuit addition for next week. So

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Speaker 2: have a fantastic weekend and week, and I look forward

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Speaker 2: to talking to you again next week.

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Speaker 1: I'm Matt Miller, and I'm Hannah Elliott and dis Is

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