WEBVTT - Ultraviolet Friday Orbit

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to the Solid Verbal. Hull that for me. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>a man, I'm forty. I've heard so many players say, well,

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<v Speaker 1>I want to be happy.

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<v Speaker 2>You want to be happy for a day?

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<v Speaker 1>Ato Steak is that woof?

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<v Speaker 2>Woof?

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<v Speaker 1>And Dan and Tie.

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<v Speaker 2>Welcome back to the song Parble Boys and Girls.

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<v Speaker 1>It's Friday.

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<v Speaker 2>People can tell. I think at this point, the more

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<v Speaker 2>energized you sound, the more they see through how tired

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<v Speaker 2>you actually are.

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<v Speaker 1>It's Friday. Get psyched. Welcome back in. It's the UFO Show.

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<v Speaker 1>I am Tie, he is Dan. Thank you for tuning

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<v Speaker 2>Uh, I don't think so. I mean you got the subreddit,

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<v Speaker 2>to see the newest bruin a that we do after

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<v Speaker 2>our UFO show and after our recap show. We do

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<v Speaker 2>a little stuff after the preview show as well earlier

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<v Speaker 2>on in the week. But yeah, that's a good time,

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<v Speaker 2>and we've all sorts of fun questions that we'd like

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<v Speaker 2>to answer on video, so you can hold us accountable

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<v Speaker 2>visually and maybe not be as confused. Did you have

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<v Speaker 2>you seen comments that people are like I thought Ty

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<v Speaker 2>was Dan this entire time, and this is really screwing

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<v Speaker 2>me up. Yeah, I enjoy those comments a lot. I

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<v Speaker 2>guess you look like a Dan and I look like

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<v Speaker 2>a tie Maybe who knows who knew? So yeah, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>excited to do that. We don't have a ton in

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<v Speaker 2>the way of news, just that there's more football happening

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<v Speaker 2>tomorrow or today, depending on when you listen to this.

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<v Speaker 2>The PAC twelve may vote tonight, today, tomorrow, I don't know,

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<v Speaker 2>but at the time of our recording they have not.

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<v Speaker 2>I have seen that in a couple of counties that

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<v Speaker 2>house Pack twelve programs, Lane County, which is where the

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<v Speaker 2>University of Oregon is, and Boulder County, which is obviously

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<v Speaker 2>where the University of Colorado is. There have been some

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<v Speaker 2>spikes that have been problematic as for gatherings, but at

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<v Speaker 2>the same time, California has made further exemptions for college

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<v Speaker 2>football teams to practice and gather in large groups. So

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<v Speaker 2>a totally uneven situation, but we'd expect nothing less given

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<v Speaker 2>everything about twenty twenty. Can I ask a question, Maybe

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<v Speaker 2>it's a dumb one. I know, man, all of our

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<v Speaker 2>questions are dumb, so this is just standard.

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<v Speaker 1>Hit me, what is the deal with these votes?

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<v Speaker 2>The votes?

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<v Speaker 1>The votes right, Like if you read the press clippings

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<v Speaker 1>on these so called votes, right, we didn't even know

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<v Speaker 1>if one actually happened in the Big ten. Even chancellors

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<v Speaker 1>in eighties didn't know, like, oh, we don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>That kind of did or not. Yeah, it's all very unclear.

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<v Speaker 1>But is what is the deal with these votes? I

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<v Speaker 1>need to know more about the process by which they

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<v Speaker 1>are conducted, because you know the way it is sounding

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<v Speaker 1>through all of these press reports that I've read, it's

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<v Speaker 1>like they're choosing a pope. It's veiled in secrecy until

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<v Speaker 1>the white smoke comes out the PAC twelve chimney, at

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<v Speaker 1>which point we'll learn of the schedule. Yeah. No, in reality,

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<v Speaker 1>it's probably a very laggy zoom call, right, like, how

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<v Speaker 1>are they doing the votes at this moment in time

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<v Speaker 1>in twenty twenty, Because my guess is it couldn't be

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<v Speaker 1>farther from how I perceive it or we perceive it

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<v Speaker 1>to be.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think it's all over zoom. In terms of

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<v Speaker 2>the technical aspect, it's all over zoom. And I guess

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<v Speaker 2>you just I don't know if you raise a hand,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know, if you put on a white hat,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know if there's something some sort of indicator

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<v Speaker 2>that you are for or against having a season. I

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<v Speaker 2>think it largely depends on not schools actually wanting to play,

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<v Speaker 2>but based on what the given thresholds are. So, I

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<v Speaker 2>mean we were on the same page with that in

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<v Speaker 2>terms of what schools do in certain situations and what

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<v Speaker 2>numbers might have to look like to cancel or something

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<v Speaker 2>like that. But yeah, I think we're talking about a

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<v Speaker 2>probably basic YAYNA, nothing more complicated than that. And it's

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<v Speaker 2>the conference pitching very specific details to these schools which

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<v Speaker 2>is determining the ANA.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean, like, is Oregon's president dabbling with the

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<v Speaker 1>programmatic background with a duck or the UO behind.

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<v Speaker 2>Like I just, oh, you're talking about a physical a

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<v Speaker 2>physical visual background.

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<v Speaker 1>They but you can do it. You can do it digitally,

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<v Speaker 1>you can upload image and you can kind of make

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<v Speaker 1>it seem like you're one with technology. I just I

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<v Speaker 1>need to know more about the voting process, the meeting process.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like a real accurate account, an oral history

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<v Speaker 1>of that is exactly what I need for this moment

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<v Speaker 1>in time.

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<v Speaker 2>So you're not necessarily interested in the different points that

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<v Speaker 2>are raised, not a different threshold, not care less how

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<v Speaker 2>scheduling might work. You are interested in who is the

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<v Speaker 2>most awkward technological parents of all of the presidents and chancellors,

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<v Speaker 2>Who does not know how to unmute themselves exactly, can't

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<v Speaker 2>turn the camera on, who accidentally walks, doesn't realize that

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<v Speaker 2>it's a full body shot and is wearing boxer shorts

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<v Speaker 2>or something like that. Okay, I like that. I like

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<v Speaker 2>that element of it. So it's sort of like school

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<v Speaker 2>presidents and chancellors. They're just like our dumbest aunts and

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<v Speaker 2>uncles who are much you're looking for?

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<v Speaker 1>Who among us is going to pick the photo from

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<v Speaker 1>the beach trip last year and use it as the

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<v Speaker 1>backdrop in this zoom? Like? You know that happens. Of

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<v Speaker 1>course that happens. These just all know each other. You

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<v Speaker 1>know that happens. How are your work calls? I want

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<v Speaker 1>you to get in trouble right now? Are your work calls?

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<v Speaker 1>Is there always somebody on a group meeting that goes

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<v Speaker 1>for it on the zoom? No, we don't have a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of video calls actually really yeah, I know a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of people out there do, but we don't. We

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<v Speaker 1>haven't had a whole lot of those. It's really only

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<v Speaker 1>as needed. But it's been a learning curve, I think

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<v Speaker 1>for a lot of in America, you know, to kind

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<v Speaker 1>of adapt to this new reality of having to be

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<v Speaker 1>on camera.

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<v Speaker 2>Not something we're too during early on a few months ago,

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<v Speaker 2>when we were in California, we did weekly trivia with

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<v Speaker 2>my in laws and you know it's cousins and whoever.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, it's a few different people on the zoom

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<v Speaker 2>call Zoom trivia, And it was always the older participants

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<v Speaker 2>that couldn't really get a good hold on the mute

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<v Speaker 2>un mute situation. So you'd ask a question like this

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<v Speaker 2>is the stupidest FN question, like we can hear you, mom? Yeah, Mom,

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<v Speaker 2>I can hear you. And that's always fun, it's always

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<v Speaker 2>wonderful to uh to like say, guys, mute. Yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>it's right there. So I'm positive this is happening on

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<v Speaker 2>these PAC twelve, big ten whatever calls.

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<v Speaker 1>Eight way headset, a headset with a mute button is

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<v Speaker 1>essential right now, Essential to own, essential, to have, an

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<v Speaker 1>essential to master. I am still mastering mine, and I

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<v Speaker 1>believe I was on a phone call during which I

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<v Speaker 1>threatened to take my puppy back to New Jersey and

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<v Speaker 1>everyone in the room heard it.

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<v Speaker 2>But I would like there to be a requirement on

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<v Speaker 2>these calls that every participant brings, like a twelve year

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<v Speaker 2>old or a twenty three year old to the call

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<v Speaker 2>to just monitor things from a quality control standpoint, a.

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<v Speaker 1>QC standpoint, perhaps an added staff member.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, because if you can't figure that out. You shouldn't

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<v Speaker 2>be figuring out a season.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, welcome back. Yeah, we do talk college football mostly.

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<v Speaker 1>I do need to know more about this. So if

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<v Speaker 1>we have any insight sources out there, solidverbal at gmail

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<v Speaker 1>dot com, don't forget. As you are preparing to watch

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<v Speaker 1>these games, start thinking through maybe how you want to

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<v Speaker 1>call the reverblind this weekend. Yeah, you know, four to

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<v Speaker 1>eight verbal one, give us a holler. Let us know

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<v Speaker 1>in the moment we went in the moment reaction. As

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<v Speaker 1>you're watching these games, the SEC is underway. Dan, My

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<v Speaker 1>guess is there's a lot of raw pent up, a

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<v Speaker 1>motion that just needs a needs an outlet for water.

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<v Speaker 1>One give us a call.

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<v Speaker 2>And we're getting closer to Big ten seasons. So perhaps

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<v Speaker 2>Big ten people watching from the sidelines have thoughts. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>seeing this was new to me. I'm just seeing this

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<v Speaker 2>headline now as we record this. It looks like Rondelle

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<v Speaker 2>Moore opting back in great great as of eight minutes ago.

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<v Speaker 1>Open enrollment, Baby, open enrollment come and go as you please,

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<v Speaker 1>but only for a few weeks.

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<v Speaker 2>So the Big Ten, with the addition of both Rondelle

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<v Speaker 2>Moore and Rashad Bateman getting better at receiver. This is

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<v Speaker 2>good news, This.

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<v Speaker 1>Is great news. I love Rondelle Moore, We do love

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<v Speaker 1>ronde I mean he's tipped these he's tipped his hand

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<v Speaker 1>at this point that he's going through after the year.

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<v Speaker 1>But that's okay, it's fine. Come on back, baby.

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<v Speaker 2>I think we mentioned the Notre Dame Wake Forest cancelation,

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<v Speaker 2>but since then, also it's been Tulsa, Arkansas State, South

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<v Speaker 2>Florida FAU, and North Texas. Houston. Houston just the worst

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<v Speaker 2>low in terms of scheduling. It's toss season. They tried

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<v Speaker 2>to to to set something up real quick with Baylor

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<v Speaker 2>and that fell through, and now Houston North Texas has

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<v Speaker 2>fallen through on and it's because of situations at North Texas,

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<v Speaker 2>not anything to do with Houston positive tests as far

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<v Speaker 2>as I have seen. So it's it's a really rough

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<v Speaker 2>way because it seems like the players have done everything

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<v Speaker 2>they've been asked to stay safe and adhere to all

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<v Speaker 2>the protocols. So it looks like by my count, four

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<v Speaker 2>games postponed, but still a number of them hopefully moving

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<v Speaker 2>forward in healthy fun ways.

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<v Speaker 1>Should we get to our game this year, I'd love

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<v Speaker 1>to UFO, baby, UFO. Let's do it.

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<v Speaker 2>Who what's what's this week's you time? This week Friday orbit.

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<v Speaker 1>Is ultraviolet Dan? Okay, okay, welcome on in to our

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<v Speaker 1>ultraviolet Friday orbit. Would you like to hear why it

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<v Speaker 1>is a ultra violet Friddy orbit? Dan? Of course, what

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<v Speaker 1>do you know about UV light? Have you ever heard

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<v Speaker 1>of UV? Ultraviolet light?

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<v Speaker 2>Yes? I know it comes from the sun.

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<v Speaker 1>No.

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<v Speaker 2>Correct, It's why I have to wear sun's screen. It

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<v Speaker 2>can do damage to you. I know you can't see

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<v Speaker 2>it even though it has the word violet. And it'd

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<v Speaker 2>be really cool if you knew if it was an

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<v Speaker 2>especially purple day. But I actually did a little bit

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<v Speaker 2>of research because you can do space photography with ultraviolet light.

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<v Speaker 2>Using ultraviolet light. The Swift Observatory, it's a satellite up

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<v Speaker 2>in space taking pictures. Do you know where the Swift

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<v Speaker 2>Observatory satellite is? I mean the mission of the Swift

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<v Speaker 2>Observatory satellite is run through.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean DeAndre Swift. No, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>It does have to me a vaguely college football connection

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<v Speaker 2>the Pennsylvania State University.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh I should know this.

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<v Speaker 2>The Neil Garrels Swift Observatory shooting high res ultraviolet space

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<v Speaker 2>photography galaxies far far away on film. I should have

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<v Speaker 2>known that, but a last I did not know that.

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<v Speaker 2>Shout out to gamma rays.

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<v Speaker 1>Sorry, Dan. Uv light makes up about ten percent of

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<v Speaker 1>the radiation emitted from our sun. It is harmful to people.

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<v Speaker 1>It can cause skin cancer or just a plane old

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<v Speaker 1>fashioned sunburn. But but but but but but it is

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<v Speaker 1>also beneficial because it causes the body to produce vitamin D,

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<v Speaker 1>which is essential to life.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, it is.

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<v Speaker 1>So, It's kind of like the ultimate double edged sword.

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<v Speaker 1>And in our weird little world here of college football,

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<v Speaker 1>it is sort of a metaphor for how we treat

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<v Speaker 1>the sport, is it not? It? For sure?

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<v Speaker 2>Is ultraviolet light the cause and solution to all of

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<v Speaker 2>skin's issues? Right?

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<v Speaker 1>So today, Dan, Yeah, today we are examining the fringe

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<v Speaker 1>cases in the great sport of college football. We're looking

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<v Speaker 1>at quarterbacks who could either kill your team or make

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<v Speaker 1>it stronger on any given week.

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<v Speaker 2>I like this a lot.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, all right, So when I kind of came up

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<v Speaker 1>with this concept, the guy who came to mind first

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<v Speaker 1>and foremost was Kenny Pickett. And I don't mean to

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<v Speaker 1>pick on Pitt. I'm not trying to pick on anybody.

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<v Speaker 2>But pick on pit Kenny pick It, okay.

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<v Speaker 1>But Kenny Pickett, Canny Pickett, I think is a really

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<v Speaker 1>good case for discussion here. Right Like we've seen him

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<v Speaker 1>have three hundred yard games, we've also seen him decidedly

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<v Speaker 1>not have three hundred yard games and almost look like

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<v Speaker 1>he doesn't know what he's doing out there. There are

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<v Speaker 1>other names on this list that maybe aren't quite as extreme,

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<v Speaker 1>but everyone kind of falls into that fringe territory of

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<v Speaker 1>which version of this quarterback are we going to get?

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<v Speaker 1>This week?

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<v Speaker 2>We start with Kny pick How do you feel about

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<v Speaker 2>Kenny Pickett? How do I feel about Kenny Pickett?

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<v Speaker 1>How do you feel about Kenny Pickett?

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think he has a ceiling as an upper

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<v Speaker 2>half acc quarterback. And if Pitt isn't running the ball

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<v Speaker 2>like they did two or three years ago, there is

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<v Speaker 2>there is very little way to see a pit game

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<v Speaker 2>that he is not doing basically as much damage as

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<v Speaker 2>he is doing good. And so I am I understand

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<v Speaker 2>the double edged sword, because he's put up some pretty

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<v Speaker 2>good statistical games, but I'm just it's hard for me

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<v Speaker 2>to see him circling around, orbiting around to becoming not

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<v Speaker 2>an issue, right Like, I don't think he is going

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<v Speaker 2>to get to the point where he can just not

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<v Speaker 2>throw interceptions and do well enough on third down and

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<v Speaker 2>not be a reason Pit wins, just not be a

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<v Speaker 2>reason Pit loses. I don't think he has that ceiling,

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<v Speaker 2>which is a bummer because because their defense has gotten

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<v Speaker 2>to be really, really strong. I think I agree with that.

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<v Speaker 2>So here's the deal with Picket so far this season.

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<v Speaker 2>Pitts obviously to and no beat Austin p beat Syracuse.

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<v Speaker 2>Going to get harder this week against Louisville.

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<v Speaker 1>For sure. Anny Picket both games basically seventy percent completion percentage.

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<v Speaker 1>First game against Austin P they lit up Austin P

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<v Speaker 1>fifty five nothing. He had like fourteen yards per attempt.

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<v Speaker 1>But after that against Syracuse. I know Syracuse is making

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<v Speaker 1>some upgrades on defense. I don't know if they've all

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<v Speaker 1>taken yet, but only six yards per attempt. If you

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<v Speaker 1>go back and look at what Pickett did last year,

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<v Speaker 1>there are plenty of games in there six yards or

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<v Speaker 1>fewer per attempt. Yeah, we do have instances where that

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<v Speaker 1>was not the case. We have an instance against Penn

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<v Speaker 1>State in particular, where he threw for three hundred and

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<v Speaker 1>seventy two yards and was well over seven per attempt.

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<v Speaker 2>Amazing.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a but which Kenny Pickett are we going to

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<v Speaker 1>get this year? The remainder of the way. Are we

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<v Speaker 1>going to get the Kenny Pickett that through for three

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<v Speaker 1>hundred yards not once, not twice, not thrice, but five

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<v Speaker 1>times last season? Or are we going to get the

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<v Speaker 1>Kenny Pickett that through for one hundred and forty six

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<v Speaker 1>yards against Miami Florida last year? Which Kenny Pickett are

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<v Speaker 1>we going to get the rest of the way?

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, it's going to be somewhere in between. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't have their exact schedule in front of me, but

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<v Speaker 2>I you watch him play football, and I imagine Pitt

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<v Speaker 2>fans know this all too well. Even after a really

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<v Speaker 2>impressive play from him, you're going to get two or

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<v Speaker 2>three throwing off of his back foot, stepping into the

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<v Speaker 2>wrong lane or wrong pocket area. There's just an awareness

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<v Speaker 2>issue with Kenny Pickett that if he hasn't overcome it

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<v Speaker 2>by now hope to be wrong. It seems like he

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<v Speaker 2>just sort of is what he is. So he might

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<v Speaker 2>give you a couple of glimpses, but for every one

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<v Speaker 2>of those, you know, three hundred and twenty three, three

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<v Speaker 2>forty four. There's going to be another couple duds. That's

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<v Speaker 2>who he is to me.

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<v Speaker 1>Couple duds.

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<v Speaker 2>All right.

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<v Speaker 1>I mentioned Penn State. Let's let's stay in the great

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<v Speaker 1>state of Pennsylvania.

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<v Speaker 2>He threw the ball fifty one times, by the way

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<v Speaker 2>against Penn State to get to three hundred and seventy two.

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<v Speaker 2>So correct. Yeah, sorry about Sean Clifford. Okay, I have

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<v Speaker 2>better things to say about Shan Clifford.

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<v Speaker 1>Sean Clifford twenty three touchdown passes a year ago to

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<v Speaker 1>only seven interceptions. He was also fairly mobile on the ground,

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<v Speaker 1>ran for four hundred yards on the year five rushing touchdowns.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that's an element of his game that Kirk

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<v Speaker 1>Sharaka is going to look to try and get more

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<v Speaker 1>out of.

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<v Speaker 2>We've probably said Kirk Sharaka's name more than any other

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<v Speaker 2>non Penn State podcast this offseason. Probably. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I was on YouTube looking up pronunciations of that name.

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<v Speaker 1>That's my go to for Of course, I felt like

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<v Speaker 1>Sean Clifford got worse. I know he was nicked up.

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<v Speaker 1>I never got the impression that in his twenty nineteen

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<v Speaker 1>campaign he was necessarily getting better, and.

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<v Speaker 2>You were never really a fan of the Ricky Ronnie

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<v Speaker 2>offense to begin with, and so when he's beat up

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<v Speaker 2>running an offense that you weren't a fan of as

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<v Speaker 2>somebody who paid close attention to this offense, it doesn't

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<v Speaker 2>feel like a great cocktail.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it felt like an album that had no continuity

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<v Speaker 1>from track to track. Okay, Yeah, there were predictable qualities

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<v Speaker 1>to that Ricky Ronnie album, but there just didn't feel

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<v Speaker 1>like there was continuity, like it was going somewhere, like

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<v Speaker 1>it was trying to tell a story. And I do

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<v Speaker 1>think Clifford was a bit of a victim there and

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<v Speaker 1>that if he did not show improvement from the start

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<v Speaker 1>to the finish, play calling had a lot to do

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<v Speaker 1>with it. But we obviously haven't seen what his twenty

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<v Speaker 1>twenty campaign looks like yet because they have a few

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<v Speaker 1>weeks before they actually start playing. So I guess all

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<v Speaker 1>we have to go in is one year. Damn. What

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<v Speaker 1>was your reaction to what we saw in year one

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<v Speaker 1>under Clifford?

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<v Speaker 2>I went back and watched the Minnesota game because that

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<v Speaker 2>felt like there was a good mix of the good

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<v Speaker 2>and bad. Accuracy issues for sure, downfield. He let a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of balls hang like his deeper ball even his

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<v Speaker 2>longer intermediate passes left a lot to be desired in

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<v Speaker 2>terms of arm strength and touch. But I came away

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<v Speaker 2>impressed with, you know, his ability to extend to play.

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<v Speaker 2>I guess it's that indescribable moxie, the word that you

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<v Speaker 2>love so much, Like I felt like Sean Clifford had

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<v Speaker 2>a good amount of that with his ability to run

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<v Speaker 2>and extend plays. I came away saying, Okay, if Penn

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<v Speaker 2>State's running an offense where they're not depending on him

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<v Speaker 2>to rifle balls downfield to tight creases, now they probably

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<v Speaker 2>will against teams like I don't know, Michigan and Ohio

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<v Speaker 2>State during his time at Penn State, But if they're

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<v Speaker 2>not on that as part of the offense, if they're

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<v Speaker 2>able to run the ball more and he has more

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<v Speaker 2>wide open receivers because of play action and Journey Brown

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<v Speaker 2>running well and Pat fryarn me with being able to

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<v Speaker 2>go up and get balls, that to me becomes really interesting.

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<v Speaker 2>If that's what Kirk Sharaka's offense looks like at Penn State,

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<v Speaker 2>that it's more custom made for what Sean Clifford can

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<v Speaker 2>and can't do because if it looks like if the

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<v Speaker 2>offense looks like what Joe moorehead was running with Trace McSorley,

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<v Speaker 2>where they were really bombing downfield a ton and Trace

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<v Speaker 2>McSorley with time was completing a lot of those passes.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think Sean Clifford's set up to succeed at

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<v Speaker 2>Penn State. But if it's quick hitting, if it's slants,

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<v Speaker 2>if it screens, if it's wide open play action, I

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<v Speaker 2>think he should take a nice step forward given his

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<v Speaker 2>ability to run and with what I think it will

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<v Speaker 2>be a better offensive coordinator situation. Is that is any

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<v Speaker 2>of that out of bounds?

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<v Speaker 1>No, it is a better offensive coordinator situation. I hate

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<v Speaker 1>to say it, but by default it's better.

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<v Speaker 2>Do they have a problem out wide? Though they who

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<v Speaker 2>is wide? It's who's the problem out wide? I don't

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<v Speaker 2>know that's that's okay? Sorry, sorry, let me let me rephrase.

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<v Speaker 2>Do they have a problem in a good way? Do

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<v Speaker 2>they have a guy who will be a problem to

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<v Speaker 2>other Big ten defenses without you know, obviously kJ Hammler's

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<v Speaker 2>gone right, like, is there that go to dude? Out wide?

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<v Speaker 2>Friar youth looks to be promising up the middle, but

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<v Speaker 2>is there somebody's like, oh, safety's gonna have to keep

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<v Speaker 2>an eye on him.

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<v Speaker 1>Look, I heard the question. The answer is still I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know. I don't know. That's that's I think one

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<v Speaker 1>of the great unknowns about the twenty twenty campaign. Ken

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<v Speaker 1>Johan Dotson, step up right, he's a name people know.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, he hasn't yet, he said flashes. I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>I honestly, just In Shorter did not work out and

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<v Speaker 2>he transferred.

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<v Speaker 1>I honestly don't know. So I could list names off,

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<v Speaker 1>but the truth of the matter is I don't I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know. I don't know if any of those guys

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<v Speaker 1>are going to rise to that level to really be

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<v Speaker 1>the go to.

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<v Speaker 2>So no, no, I think it is part of it.

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<v Speaker 1>None of what you said is out of bounds, and

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<v Speaker 1>I think that's a that's a big part of it.

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<v Speaker 1>He did have a little bit of that Ian book

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<v Speaker 1>quality to him, in that he was gritty and tough

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<v Speaker 1>and he could run if he had to, but also

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<v Speaker 1>wet marker type yeah, but also stared a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>too much at the defenders coming at him and got

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<v Speaker 1>some happy feet and a little bit of deer in

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<v Speaker 1>headlights from time to time.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he the Iowa game was rough, and I don't

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<v Speaker 2>know when exactly he got dinged up, but his numbers

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<v Speaker 2>fell off a cliff really into October, like it didn't

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<v Speaker 2>happen all that late into the year. It was. The

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<v Speaker 2>Purdue game was probably his last good one. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>he did a decent enough job bringing Penn State back

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<v Speaker 2>against Minnesota, but you know, had backbreaking interceptions. Penn State

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<v Speaker 2>wins that game if not for the turnover.

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<v Speaker 1>Not for the turnovers, No, for sure, let's go to

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<v Speaker 1>your boy, Max Duggin. I know you. We can't go

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<v Speaker 1>a day on the Soliverble Slack channel without you talking

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<v Speaker 1>about Max doug In. This Max back eligible.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not eligible, but back, healthy cleared.

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<v Speaker 1>Back healthy cleared. We're grateful for that. I am looking

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<v Speaker 1>forward to seeing his twenty twenty campaign get underway whenever

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<v Speaker 1>that is. Don't know if it's going to be this weekend.

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<v Speaker 1>But you're a huge Max dug and fan, Dan, aren't you.

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<v Speaker 2>I like his arm strength more than Clifford's. I think

0:23:13.600 --> 0:23:16.440
<v Speaker 2>his top end speed is higher than Clifford's as well.

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<v Speaker 2>I worry about a little bit about receivers in the

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<v Speaker 2>offense at TCU after taking the step back that it took.

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<v Speaker 2>It was rough, It like full on difficult to watch

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<v Speaker 2>last year. And I know people were pointing to his

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<v Speaker 2>dual threat ability in the yards he was able to

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<v Speaker 2>pick up on the ground, but there was in watching

0:23:36.359 --> 0:23:39.760
<v Speaker 2>Max Duggan. I watched a quarterback who probably should have

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<v Speaker 2>red shirted, who probably should have taken time to get

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<v Speaker 2>mental reps because the mistakes that he made seemed to

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<v Speaker 2>be you know, communications, breakdowns with receivers, not understanding his

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<v Speaker 2>reads and who to read, and you know, it was

0:23:56.480 --> 0:23:58.359
<v Speaker 2>it was a happy feed situation. And I know he

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<v Speaker 2>was thrust into that starting role. I'm sure he was

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<v Speaker 2>the best option. You know, TCU has had transfer issues

0:24:03.160 --> 0:24:06.240
<v Speaker 2>and injury issues, so that was probably the best move

0:24:06.400 --> 0:24:09.760
<v Speaker 2>and he was a playmaker. So I'm I'm encouraged that

0:24:10.800 --> 0:24:14.320
<v Speaker 2>he can be someone who develops with those mental reps

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<v Speaker 2>into a top half of the Big twelve quarterback. But

0:24:19.680 --> 0:24:24.480
<v Speaker 2>TCU ceiling if he doesn't take a noticeable jump this year.

0:24:25.400 --> 0:24:27.800
<v Speaker 2>It's hard to imagine that they can just be led

0:24:27.840 --> 0:24:30.520
<v Speaker 2>by you know, running the ball and defense and him

0:24:30.520 --> 0:24:33.040
<v Speaker 2>not turning the ball over. They're going to need a

0:24:33.080 --> 0:24:36.359
<v Speaker 2>plus year for Max Duggan to have any chance of

0:24:36.400 --> 0:24:38.119
<v Speaker 2>taking a step forward, or else they're going to waste

0:24:38.119 --> 0:24:40.000
<v Speaker 2>what looks to be another pretty good defense.

0:24:40.760 --> 0:24:45.720
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I think that's I think that's accurate. I would

0:24:45.720 --> 0:24:48.520
<v Speaker 1>point to some of the efficiency numbers though, that we

0:24:48.600 --> 0:24:52.000
<v Speaker 1>saw last year, and they just they weren't efficient through

0:24:52.000 --> 0:24:56.520
<v Speaker 1>the air at all. No, as a whole. I remember

0:24:56.600 --> 0:25:00.159
<v Speaker 1>doing the TCU preview year ago expecting more out of

0:25:00.200 --> 0:25:03.280
<v Speaker 1>the ground game. Then ultimately they ended up getting it.

0:25:03.320 --> 0:25:05.199
<v Speaker 1>I mean, they were fine on the ground. I'm not

0:25:05.320 --> 0:25:07.320
<v Speaker 1>implying they were a terrible rushing team or anything like that,

0:25:07.440 --> 0:25:12.560
<v Speaker 1>but I expected more. We didn't get it, And I

0:25:12.560 --> 0:25:15.760
<v Speaker 1>think you're right to say that there was definitely a

0:25:15.880 --> 0:25:18.040
<v Speaker 1>he should have red shirted quality to what we saw

0:25:18.560 --> 0:25:21.159
<v Speaker 1>a year ago. That said, I think the potential jumps

0:25:21.160 --> 0:25:24.800
<v Speaker 1>off the page at you. Yeah, you can look at

0:25:24.800 --> 0:25:28.320
<v Speaker 1>the numbers and they tell you one story, but if

0:25:28.320 --> 0:25:31.560
<v Speaker 1>you watch him out there, there's a moxie that I like.

0:25:32.560 --> 0:25:36.520
<v Speaker 2>No, there's an element, especially with the way he runs

0:25:36.560 --> 0:25:40.000
<v Speaker 2>the ball, that if they can better tailor the offense

0:25:40.040 --> 0:25:43.800
<v Speaker 2>to his dual threat ability, it should open things up.

0:25:43.880 --> 0:25:45.600
<v Speaker 2>In the past game, I don't know if it's more

0:25:45.680 --> 0:25:47.960
<v Speaker 2>zone read stuff. I don't know if it's more rollout stuff,

0:25:48.040 --> 0:25:50.960
<v Speaker 2>quick read or go kind of things for him. But

0:25:52.320 --> 0:25:55.040
<v Speaker 2>down Max Duggan, and this was it was an offensive

0:25:55.040 --> 0:25:59.240
<v Speaker 2>issue at every level, but down Max Duggan brought t

0:25:59.480 --> 0:26:04.040
<v Speaker 2>Seed down. He was the reason. I mean, every quarterback

0:26:04.080 --> 0:26:06.119
<v Speaker 2>is if an offense has a down game basically, but

0:26:06.880 --> 0:26:10.720
<v Speaker 2>it was another like it. It was kind of Kenny

0:26:10.720 --> 0:26:14.560
<v Speaker 2>pickettish to me that it becomes very tough TV to

0:26:14.600 --> 0:26:17.639
<v Speaker 2>watch and I am desperate to watch football. And what

0:26:17.760 --> 0:26:20.760
<v Speaker 2>TCU's offense looked like at times against the better teams

0:26:20.760 --> 0:26:23.040
<v Speaker 2>on their schedule, it was just bad TV.

0:26:25.080 --> 0:26:29.919
<v Speaker 1>Speaking of bad TV, let's talk about Jared Guarantano.

0:26:31.000 --> 0:26:34.040
<v Speaker 2>Okay, well this, I mean there's a very stark contrast here.

0:26:34.080 --> 0:26:38.960
<v Speaker 1>I'm ready, Yeah, I don't feel like Guarantanno has gotten

0:26:38.960 --> 0:26:44.239
<v Speaker 1>any better, and he has I don't know. There is

0:26:44.400 --> 0:26:50.880
<v Speaker 1>a definitive Boomer bust quality to Guarantano, and the extremes

0:26:50.920 --> 0:26:55.440
<v Speaker 1>are are pretty polarizing. We've got games where last year

0:26:55.480 --> 0:27:00.879
<v Speaker 1>he threw for over four hundred against Missouri. We've got

0:27:00.920 --> 0:27:03.639
<v Speaker 1>other games that have been far from four hundred, and

0:27:03.640 --> 0:27:06.840
<v Speaker 1>he's gotten hurt where do we stand on Guarantano? Is

0:27:06.840 --> 0:27:10.120
<v Speaker 1>he getting better? How do you feel about him? Within

0:27:10.160 --> 0:27:13.640
<v Speaker 1>the framework of the twenty twenty Tennessee campaign.

0:27:14.840 --> 0:27:17.800
<v Speaker 2>So quarterback was sort of up in the air for Tennessee.

0:27:17.920 --> 0:27:22.679
<v Speaker 2>They rotated, they started Brian Moore or whatever, and it

0:27:22.840 --> 0:27:27.080
<v Speaker 2>sort of I think, can shake a quarterback's confidence. Physically good,

0:27:27.200 --> 0:27:31.120
<v Speaker 2>Jarrett Guarantano is crazy impressive now. The bottom of the

0:27:31.160 --> 0:27:33.440
<v Speaker 2>SEC is where he made a lot of his hay

0:27:33.520 --> 0:27:38.080
<v Speaker 2>last year, and so he was pretty bad in extended

0:27:38.160 --> 0:27:41.520
<v Speaker 2>time against the best teams on Tennessee schedule. Now their

0:27:41.560 --> 0:27:44.200
<v Speaker 2>schedule should be better this year in terms of the

0:27:44.280 --> 0:27:48.000
<v Speaker 2>hit after hit after hit. But it's just the way

0:27:48.040 --> 0:27:50.040
<v Speaker 2>he was not able to come out of the gates

0:27:50.119 --> 0:27:53.199
<v Speaker 2>last year was definitely a knock against him. He was,

0:27:53.480 --> 0:27:56.520
<v Speaker 2>I guess okay against Georgia State and not that great

0:27:56.520 --> 0:28:00.399
<v Speaker 2>against BYU, and then things just got worse over the

0:28:00.440 --> 0:28:03.439
<v Speaker 2>first half of that season. But he did, to me

0:28:03.800 --> 0:28:06.960
<v Speaker 2>regain some confidence at least against the lower part of

0:28:07.000 --> 0:28:10.520
<v Speaker 2>the conference. Now, Tennessee has designs of being and I

0:28:10.520 --> 0:28:15.080
<v Speaker 2>think rightfully so competitive against the class of the conference,

0:28:15.800 --> 0:28:19.439
<v Speaker 2>and so for jareded Garantano to be a part of

0:28:19.480 --> 0:28:22.840
<v Speaker 2>that improvement. It's I mean, it's basically all going to

0:28:22.880 --> 0:28:25.840
<v Speaker 2>be on his consistency and accuracy. And he's had a

0:28:25.920 --> 0:28:28.920
<v Speaker 2>number of different offensive coordinators. He has now year two

0:28:28.960 --> 0:28:33.080
<v Speaker 2>with Jim Cheney seems like he's irrefutably the dude. And

0:28:33.119 --> 0:28:36.560
<v Speaker 2>so now going into this year, it's the winnable games

0:28:36.920 --> 0:28:40.280
<v Speaker 2>that he has to perform much much better, and so

0:28:40.400 --> 0:28:42.680
<v Speaker 2>last year that was Georgia State and BYU. Of course.

0:28:44.000 --> 0:28:47.520
<v Speaker 2>Beyond that, though, when he had extended periods of time

0:28:47.600 --> 0:28:51.480
<v Speaker 2>last year, especially that second half, he looked more confident.

0:28:51.520 --> 0:28:54.240
<v Speaker 2>He was stepping into his throes, he was extending plays

0:28:54.240 --> 0:28:56.600
<v Speaker 2>with his feet, he was spreading the ball out nicely.

0:28:57.080 --> 0:29:03.720
<v Speaker 2>So I think his upside is still fine. What he

0:29:03.800 --> 0:29:07.320
<v Speaker 2>has around him is it seems like it's more impressive

0:29:07.320 --> 0:29:09.400
<v Speaker 2>than it ever has been, even losing a couple of

0:29:09.440 --> 0:29:16.080
<v Speaker 2>big pass catchers. So I'm cautiously optimistic that his slope

0:29:16.160 --> 0:29:21.880
<v Speaker 2>is moving, maybe not sharply, but upward. And so he

0:29:22.400 --> 0:29:25.920
<v Speaker 2>was confident going downfields in November. I think it'll carry

0:29:26.000 --> 0:29:29.800
<v Speaker 2>over somewhat given the continuity just with the coaching staff,

0:29:29.840 --> 0:29:31.760
<v Speaker 2>and I saw Jeremy Proul got an extension as well.

0:29:31.760 --> 0:29:33.760
<v Speaker 2>I don't know that's not going to affect him, but

0:29:33.800 --> 0:29:36.040
<v Speaker 2>the continuity to me seems like a big deal.

0:29:37.840 --> 0:29:42.560
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. I you know, here's a thing. It's been a

0:29:42.600 --> 0:29:45.160
<v Speaker 1>work in progress at Tennessee for a long time. This

0:29:45.320 --> 0:29:49.040
<v Speaker 1>is not lost on Tennessee fans anywhere. It's been a

0:29:49.040 --> 0:29:52.120
<v Speaker 1>work in progress. I think they've got the guy now

0:29:52.120 --> 0:29:56.360
<v Speaker 1>with Jeremy Pruett. The way the team played, especially on defense,

0:29:56.400 --> 0:29:58.760
<v Speaker 1>I keep coming back to this. Down the stretch last

0:29:58.840 --> 0:30:02.360
<v Speaker 1>year was really telling about where this team is at

0:30:02.480 --> 0:30:06.480
<v Speaker 1>and that they've bought into his system. The offense should

0:30:06.520 --> 0:30:09.840
<v Speaker 1>be a lot better this year. I've locked Tennessee up

0:30:09.840 --> 0:30:12.560
<v Speaker 1>by the way Week one on the road South Carolina

0:30:12.640 --> 0:30:15.880
<v Speaker 1>at night minus three. I don't like locking up road teams,

0:30:15.920 --> 0:30:19.000
<v Speaker 1>but I think this core that is coming back on

0:30:19.080 --> 0:30:22.040
<v Speaker 1>both sides of the football for the balls is really

0:30:22.080 --> 0:30:24.560
<v Speaker 1>exciting and if you're a Valls fan, you should feel

0:30:24.560 --> 0:30:27.800
<v Speaker 1>good about it. The running game I think should improve.

0:30:28.320 --> 0:30:31.160
<v Speaker 1>It has to improve. It's going to be year two

0:30:31.240 --> 0:30:35.280
<v Speaker 1>under offensive consultant Jim Cheney. If Guaran Tano can get

0:30:35.280 --> 0:30:38.040
<v Speaker 1>a little bit more of a support net, he probably

0:30:38.080 --> 0:30:40.920
<v Speaker 1>wouldn't have to do as much in order to improve.

0:30:41.400 --> 0:30:43.840
<v Speaker 1>That is what I am counting on. So I don't

0:30:43.840 --> 0:30:47.680
<v Speaker 1>know if from a skills standpoint, we've seen anything that

0:30:48.080 --> 0:30:50.640
<v Speaker 1>makes me feel all that excited about his ability to

0:30:50.640 --> 0:30:53.760
<v Speaker 1>get better. But I think if the system improves, it's

0:30:53.880 --> 0:30:56.640
<v Speaker 1>got like a rising tide lifting all boats quality to it,

0:30:57.440 --> 0:31:00.000
<v Speaker 1>and his numbers will improve and Tennessee will improve.

0:31:00.160 --> 0:31:05.640
<v Speaker 2>Two, if Tennessee is to have a definitively improved season

0:31:05.760 --> 0:31:09.120
<v Speaker 2>given the tennisans from last year, they have to win

0:31:09.160 --> 0:31:11.680
<v Speaker 2>their first two games. That's mandatory. They have to win

0:31:11.720 --> 0:31:13.400
<v Speaker 2>on the road in Columbia, and they have to beat

0:31:13.400 --> 0:31:16.680
<v Speaker 2>Missou with the first year head coach in Knoxville. On

0:31:16.760 --> 0:31:19.040
<v Speaker 2>the back half of their schedule, which is I mean

0:31:19.080 --> 0:31:21.680
<v Speaker 2>the three other four final games, it's hosting Texas A

0:31:21.720 --> 0:31:24.800
<v Speaker 2>and M, Auburn on the road, Florida at home. So

0:31:25.520 --> 0:31:27.880
<v Speaker 2>if they're able to start to and zero, it's that

0:31:28.080 --> 0:31:30.280
<v Speaker 2>A and M game at home that I have circled

0:31:30.320 --> 0:31:34.840
<v Speaker 2>like this is the referendum on Tennessee progress. Texas A

0:31:34.880 --> 0:31:38.480
<v Speaker 2>and M at home coming out week after Fayetteville and

0:31:38.560 --> 0:31:41.920
<v Speaker 2>Arkansas on the road. If they're able to beat Texas

0:31:41.960 --> 0:31:44.360
<v Speaker 2>A and M in Knoxville, there is your proof of

0:31:44.400 --> 0:31:47.760
<v Speaker 2>concept of not just Jarrick Garantano, but Tennessee as.

0:31:47.680 --> 0:31:50.720
<v Speaker 1>A whole, let's stay with A and M. Then you

0:31:50.800 --> 0:31:57.440
<v Speaker 1>mentioned ABM. Kellen Mond is an interesting case here. We

0:31:57.520 --> 0:32:00.760
<v Speaker 1>talked about him last year, at least I did in

0:32:00.800 --> 0:32:06.320
<v Speaker 1>the context of first off, the schedule was brutal nine

0:32:06.800 --> 0:32:11.840
<v Speaker 1>did not do them any favors, but it was always

0:32:11.880 --> 0:32:13.960
<v Speaker 1>a situation where they were going to go as far

0:32:14.080 --> 0:32:18.520
<v Speaker 1>as Kellen Mond could take him, and ultimately they ended

0:32:18.600 --> 0:32:21.840
<v Speaker 1>up going what eight and five throughout the course of

0:32:21.840 --> 0:32:24.200
<v Speaker 1>the year wonon the bowl game. Seven and five, I think,

0:32:24.240 --> 0:32:28.040
<v Speaker 1>again a byproduct of the schedule. Good enough team, top

0:32:28.080 --> 0:32:28.800
<v Speaker 1>twenty ish team.

0:32:29.600 --> 0:32:30.720
<v Speaker 2>How do you feel about Kellamond?

0:32:32.240 --> 0:32:38.000
<v Speaker 1>I like him, and I think unhealthily so okay, I

0:32:38.040 --> 0:32:41.680
<v Speaker 1>think I'm way too high on Kellen Mond than perhaps

0:32:41.720 --> 0:32:44.800
<v Speaker 1>I should be. You do have these yippie moments where

0:32:44.800 --> 0:32:46.560
<v Speaker 1>he makes a really bad throw, but then at the

0:32:46.600 --> 0:32:50.800
<v Speaker 1>same time he is very indicative of this game, right, Like,

0:32:51.480 --> 0:32:54.360
<v Speaker 1>there are qualities to Kellen Mond that you look at him,

0:32:54.360 --> 0:32:56.040
<v Speaker 1>you see him out there running around, you see him

0:32:56.040 --> 0:32:59.440
<v Speaker 1>scoreing eight touchdowns, you see him making a big time throw.

0:32:59.480 --> 0:33:01.720
<v Speaker 1>It's like, and this kid's got a lot of promise.

0:33:02.400 --> 0:33:02.800
<v Speaker 2>Mm hmm.

0:33:03.360 --> 0:33:06.480
<v Speaker 1>You can't say that though without at least acknowledging the downside,

0:33:06.920 --> 0:33:08.080
<v Speaker 1>like there's plenty of that too.

0:33:10.160 --> 0:33:13.320
<v Speaker 2>I totally agree. I rewatched all of his throws from

0:33:13.360 --> 0:33:15.760
<v Speaker 2>the Georgia game because I specifically wanted to look at

0:33:15.840 --> 0:33:18.920
<v Speaker 2>for any of these guys games in which they sort

0:33:18.920 --> 0:33:23.479
<v Speaker 2>of were their most average self, and had they been better,

0:33:24.240 --> 0:33:27.200
<v Speaker 2>they probably would have given their team a better chance

0:33:27.240 --> 0:33:29.480
<v Speaker 2>to win. Now, that was a close game, that Georgia game.

0:33:29.560 --> 0:33:33.520
<v Speaker 2>That was a questionably officiated game, to say the very least.

0:33:34.320 --> 0:33:36.720
<v Speaker 2>But I came away from that game and just from

0:33:36.760 --> 0:33:40.240
<v Speaker 2>the general Kellen monding, general Kellen Mond experience. Excuse me,

0:33:41.040 --> 0:33:46.600
<v Speaker 2>always returning to the phrase where was this Kellen Mond earlier?

0:33:46.840 --> 0:33:47.240
<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

0:33:47.280 --> 0:33:50.800
<v Speaker 2>Where is this Kellenmond against this team? Where was this

0:33:50.920 --> 0:33:53.040
<v Speaker 2>Kellen Mond against that team? Where was this Kelen moond

0:33:53.080 --> 0:33:55.800
<v Speaker 2>in the first quarter, the second quarter? Because against that

0:33:55.920 --> 0:33:58.480
<v Speaker 2>Georgia defense, mind you, maybe the best pass defense in

0:33:58.520 --> 0:34:04.000
<v Speaker 2>the country, incredible pasty defense. He was stepping into his

0:34:04.040 --> 0:34:07.480
<v Speaker 2>own offensive line after holding the ball too long early

0:34:07.520 --> 0:34:10.800
<v Speaker 2>on in that game. He was missing open slants, missing

0:34:10.840 --> 0:34:14.600
<v Speaker 2>open hitches, makeable throws, throws that would have taken Texas

0:34:14.640 --> 0:34:16.520
<v Speaker 2>A and M from second to ten, to third and

0:34:16.560 --> 0:34:19.879
<v Speaker 2>three or to a first down, and then he's he's

0:34:19.920 --> 0:34:23.400
<v Speaker 2>making those throws in the fourth quarter. And mind you,

0:34:23.480 --> 0:34:25.719
<v Speaker 2>they didn't get into the end zone the first three

0:34:25.800 --> 0:34:28.680
<v Speaker 2>quarters of that game, but he was when there was

0:34:28.719 --> 0:34:33.239
<v Speaker 2>an urgency to the game. He became a gamer. I

0:34:33.320 --> 0:34:36.760
<v Speaker 2>just need to see four straight quarters of that Kellen Mond.

0:34:36.800 --> 0:34:39.560
<v Speaker 2>He sales a lot of balls. He takes a little

0:34:39.600 --> 0:34:43.200
<v Speaker 2>bit too long in the pocket sometimes, but the best

0:34:43.280 --> 0:34:46.120
<v Speaker 2>of Kellen Mond, both as a runner and as a thrower,

0:34:47.200 --> 0:34:50.560
<v Speaker 2>is pretty intriguing. It doesn't seem like Jimbo and that

0:34:50.640 --> 0:34:53.919
<v Speaker 2>staff fully trust him to go downfield a ton, which

0:34:53.960 --> 0:34:56.760
<v Speaker 2>is fine, play within your ability and if you're constrained

0:34:56.800 --> 0:34:59.800
<v Speaker 2>by your system, just played to the best of that system. Whatever.

0:35:00.360 --> 0:35:04.000
<v Speaker 2>But now without potentially his number one receiver, I don't

0:35:04.000 --> 0:35:07.360
<v Speaker 2>know how much both he is going to be trusted,

0:35:07.360 --> 0:35:08.839
<v Speaker 2>the receivers are going to be trusted. I know there's

0:35:08.840 --> 0:35:13.160
<v Speaker 2>in some intriguing speed in college station, but I'm fascinated

0:35:13.200 --> 0:35:14.920
<v Speaker 2>to see with and I have texts, say and M

0:35:14.960 --> 0:35:17.719
<v Speaker 2>schedule in front of me. Three fascinating games after their

0:35:17.719 --> 0:35:20.680
<v Speaker 2>opener against Vanderbilt on the road against Alabama, Florida and

0:35:20.719 --> 0:35:25.160
<v Speaker 2>Mississippi State Florida at home in week three? Is that

0:35:25.360 --> 0:35:29.439
<v Speaker 2>Kellen Moond referendum a good defense not the absolute best

0:35:29.440 --> 0:35:33.040
<v Speaker 2>in the SEC? At home with some time after playing

0:35:33.080 --> 0:35:35.399
<v Speaker 2>Vanderbilt and Alabama to get a sense of what your

0:35:35.560 --> 0:35:40.080
<v Speaker 2>offense is and isn't. That is the referendum on the

0:35:40.280 --> 0:35:45.000
<v Speaker 2>Kellen Moond evolution. Because as a human, he's been crazy impressive.

0:35:45.080 --> 0:35:48.919
<v Speaker 2>Specific moments, specific plays, specific games, he's been impressive. Now

0:35:48.920 --> 0:35:52.000
<v Speaker 2>it's time to just this is. He's in grad school.

0:35:52.040 --> 0:35:54.160
<v Speaker 2>Now it's time to get that masters.

0:35:54.960 --> 0:35:59.080
<v Speaker 1>No, I think that all tracks Dan, Okay, I was

0:35:59.160 --> 0:36:02.160
<v Speaker 1>intrigued by my mind last year. I have been the

0:36:02.200 --> 0:36:05.560
<v Speaker 1>whole time, but I am especially so this year.

0:36:06.360 --> 0:36:06.839
<v Speaker 2>I really am.

0:36:06.920 --> 0:36:09.759
<v Speaker 1>I think grad school is probably a good way to

0:36:09.760 --> 0:36:10.040
<v Speaker 1>put it.

0:36:10.920 --> 0:36:13.080
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's time to secure the masters.

0:36:14.239 --> 0:36:19.279
<v Speaker 1>Let's go to bo Nix bo Nicks. Okay it is.

0:36:19.400 --> 0:36:21.600
<v Speaker 1>Do I have an argument with bow Nicks because I

0:36:21.640 --> 0:36:22.640
<v Speaker 1>sort of made it last year?

0:36:23.960 --> 0:36:24.400
<v Speaker 2>Okay?

0:36:24.719 --> 0:36:28.400
<v Speaker 1>Do I have an argument that the final stat line

0:36:28.440 --> 0:36:33.320
<v Speaker 1>for him does not fully tell the story?

0:36:34.040 --> 0:36:35.400
<v Speaker 2>Yeah? In some ways?

0:36:35.520 --> 0:36:40.240
<v Speaker 1>Okay, continue because I feel like at the very beginning

0:36:40.239 --> 0:36:43.640
<v Speaker 1>of the season, so last year, if we turn the page,

0:36:45.080 --> 0:36:47.160
<v Speaker 1>beat Oregon in his first game. It was a game

0:36:47.200 --> 0:36:51.600
<v Speaker 1>Oregon could have won. Yeah, I remember, well beat Oregon

0:36:51.760 --> 0:36:54.839
<v Speaker 1>by what a touchdown? Twenty seven twenty one.

0:36:54.880 --> 0:36:55.200
<v Speaker 2>Here we go.

0:36:56.520 --> 0:36:59.840
<v Speaker 1>He had moments in that game where he looked wise

0:37:00.000 --> 0:37:03.640
<v Speaker 1>beyond his years. He was a true freshman starting. He's

0:37:03.640 --> 0:37:06.400
<v Speaker 1>a legacy, you know. There was a lot of steam

0:37:06.440 --> 0:37:10.399
<v Speaker 1>on bow Knicks coming in. Numbers weren't great, but had

0:37:10.480 --> 0:37:13.000
<v Speaker 1>some moments in that game where it was like, Okay,

0:37:13.040 --> 0:37:15.520
<v Speaker 1>this is a kid who's a gamer, and I think

0:37:15.560 --> 0:37:18.920
<v Speaker 1>that much is is true the full way through. What

0:37:18.920 --> 0:37:21.480
<v Speaker 1>I would say though, is that those moments sort of

0:37:21.480 --> 0:37:27.520
<v Speaker 1>waned right, Like there were moments against Alabama that were

0:37:27.760 --> 0:37:31.719
<v Speaker 1>really exciting, and there were moments against Georgia that made

0:37:31.760 --> 0:37:36.560
<v Speaker 1>you feel good, but there were like three interceptions against

0:37:36.560 --> 0:37:38.200
<v Speaker 1>Florida that didn't make you feel so high.

0:37:38.239 --> 0:37:40.000
<v Speaker 2>I was a rough watch. That was a rough watch

0:37:40.040 --> 0:37:40.719
<v Speaker 2>of a game, yep.

0:37:41.280 --> 0:37:45.600
<v Speaker 1>And there were the kind of those downer moments along

0:37:45.640 --> 0:37:49.000
<v Speaker 1>the way as well, where it was never fully apparent

0:37:49.080 --> 0:37:53.040
<v Speaker 1>whether these were freshmen type things or whether this was

0:37:53.080 --> 0:37:56.040
<v Speaker 1>a bow Knix type of thing. We will find out

0:37:56.120 --> 0:38:00.320
<v Speaker 1>more this coming weekend. I saw him big Boy Yet's

0:38:00.719 --> 0:38:04.960
<v Speaker 1>Jeff took Kentucky outright he did, because part of what

0:38:05.040 --> 0:38:07.560
<v Speaker 1>bo Nicks has working against him this year is that

0:38:07.600 --> 0:38:10.839
<v Speaker 1>he's got an entirely new offensive line and also an

0:38:10.920 --> 0:38:14.960
<v Speaker 1>entirely new offense coordinator to some extent that he has

0:38:15.000 --> 0:38:17.319
<v Speaker 1>to tran Lern. So I don't know if we get

0:38:17.360 --> 0:38:21.320
<v Speaker 1>the answer to that in twenty twenty, but Bonnicks, to me,

0:38:21.560 --> 0:38:24.560
<v Speaker 1>it's we're at least within the context of this game,

0:38:25.680 --> 0:38:28.200
<v Speaker 1>we are dealing with that question of how much of

0:38:28.239 --> 0:38:31.359
<v Speaker 1>this was just him being a freshman versus how much

0:38:31.400 --> 0:38:33.920
<v Speaker 1>of this is something that we expect to continue now

0:38:33.920 --> 0:38:39.200
<v Speaker 1>into twenty twenty. Well, there are very few true freshmen

0:38:39.239 --> 0:38:41.520
<v Speaker 1>who are ready to play quarterback at a high level

0:38:41.560 --> 0:38:44.440
<v Speaker 1>from day one in a major conference. Let's get out

0:38:44.440 --> 0:38:46.080
<v Speaker 1>of that out of the way. That this is not

0:38:46.600 --> 0:38:49.680
<v Speaker 1>his struggles last year are not fully on him. Like

0:38:49.760 --> 0:38:52.440
<v Speaker 1>you can name the guys who have come in to

0:38:52.520 --> 0:38:56.439
<v Speaker 1>a huge program with a stacked schedule like Auburn had

0:38:56.520 --> 0:39:00.279
<v Speaker 1>last year and we're above average, that's a just a

0:39:00.400 --> 0:39:03.200
<v Speaker 1>near impossibility. So with that out of the way, there

0:39:03.239 --> 0:39:07.480
<v Speaker 1>was a timidity. He was timid going downfield somewhat after

0:39:07.920 --> 0:39:11.520
<v Speaker 1>some lack of success overthrowing dudes. He has a terrific

0:39:11.640 --> 0:39:14.880
<v Speaker 1>arm like. Physically, bon Nix is in a fantastic space.

0:39:15.000 --> 0:39:18.759
<v Speaker 1>The architecture of last year's offense was pretty questionable, in

0:39:18.880 --> 0:39:22.160
<v Speaker 1>terms of play calling, in terms of injuries, in terms

0:39:22.200 --> 0:39:25.319
<v Speaker 1>of shuffling, what kinds of throws he was trusted to

0:39:25.400 --> 0:39:28.240
<v Speaker 1>make week in week out. At his worst, he looked

0:39:28.239 --> 0:39:32.040
<v Speaker 1>like he was in way over his head, and at

0:39:32.040 --> 0:39:35.080
<v Speaker 1>his best he looked like he was way in. He

0:39:35.239 --> 0:39:38.440
<v Speaker 1>was in way over his head. But when it counted,

0:39:38.640 --> 0:39:42.160
<v Speaker 1>he was able to come through. And that happened against Oregon.

0:39:42.200 --> 0:39:46.279
<v Speaker 1>That happened against Alabama after kind of lackluster performances. So

0:39:46.320 --> 0:39:49.919
<v Speaker 1>I guess win your personal clunkers, which bon Nicks did.

0:39:50.480 --> 0:39:54.960
<v Speaker 1>So I'm encouraged by his ceiling. I'm encouraged by some

0:39:55.040 --> 0:39:58.279
<v Speaker 1>of the skill talent, especially at receiver around him, but

0:39:58.480 --> 0:40:00.880
<v Speaker 1>the shuffling that's happening literally in front of him along

0:40:00.920 --> 0:40:03.600
<v Speaker 1>his line. And now with a new offensive coordinator and

0:40:03.640 --> 0:40:05.799
<v Speaker 1>hopefully it's it'll be a more of a quick hit

0:40:05.880 --> 0:40:08.560
<v Speaker 1>offense like what Chad Morris did at Clemson. So that

0:40:08.600 --> 0:40:10.239
<v Speaker 1>gets him into a rhythm and gets the ball out

0:40:10.239 --> 0:40:12.200
<v Speaker 1>of his hand quickly, so he doesn't need to sit

0:40:12.280 --> 0:40:14.840
<v Speaker 1>in a pocket and make longer reads and go downfield

0:40:14.960 --> 0:40:18.920
<v Speaker 1>as the entirety of the Auburn offense. But I am

0:40:19.680 --> 0:40:23.279
<v Speaker 1>hopeful with a new offense that Bnicks is going to

0:40:23.320 --> 0:40:26.520
<v Speaker 1>look more comfortable, not just because he's older, but because

0:40:26.760 --> 0:40:29.000
<v Speaker 1>we have a sense and I'm sure obviously the coaches

0:40:29.000 --> 0:40:32.160
<v Speaker 1>have a sense of what he can and can't do comfortably.

0:40:32.960 --> 0:40:37.719
<v Speaker 1>His twenty nineteen campaign was an omelet cooked in an

0:40:37.800 --> 0:40:39.759
<v Speaker 1>uneven cast iron pan.

0:40:40.320 --> 0:40:42.719
<v Speaker 2>I like this new omelet tie. I like this.

0:40:43.160 --> 0:40:46.960
<v Speaker 1>Some spots the bottom was browned. Other spots it was

0:40:47.000 --> 0:40:51.400
<v Speaker 1>still running, not cook the full way through. Just in speak,

0:40:51.480 --> 0:40:55.359
<v Speaker 1>and he was not in a losing effort quarterback. He

0:40:55.400 --> 0:40:57.640
<v Speaker 1>did not leave it all out on the field. He

0:40:57.680 --> 0:40:59.960
<v Speaker 1>did not play his best and just get out gunned

0:41:00.080 --> 0:41:04.799
<v Speaker 1>by somebody. He was the reason Auburn lost games or

0:41:04.880 --> 0:41:07.960
<v Speaker 1>almost lost games. And so that that is, that is

0:41:08.000 --> 0:41:08.479
<v Speaker 1>something that.

0:41:08.480 --> 0:41:11.279
<v Speaker 2>Needs to flip this year. That he is just a

0:41:11.320 --> 0:41:15.520
<v Speaker 2>bystander in a bad Auburn performance, not the one at

0:41:15.520 --> 0:41:16.440
<v Speaker 2>the front of the parade.

0:41:16.520 --> 0:41:20.960
<v Speaker 1>No more hoobastink, no more reason, thank you, we got

0:41:20.960 --> 0:41:23.200
<v Speaker 1>time for one more Dan. You get to pick Okay,

0:41:23.239 --> 0:41:25.560
<v Speaker 1>so you can choose from the following. You can choose

0:41:26.400 --> 0:41:31.400
<v Speaker 1>Desmond Ritter. You can choose Spencer Sanders, Ryan Halensky, Jack Cone,

0:41:31.920 --> 0:41:34.359
<v Speaker 1>Tyler Shuck who we we just don't know anything about.

0:41:34.400 --> 0:41:36.160
<v Speaker 1>That's that was the one wildcard I put in because

0:41:36.200 --> 0:41:40.480
<v Speaker 1>he's a duck. James Blackman who, I mean, any of

0:41:40.480 --> 0:41:44.040
<v Speaker 1>those guys stand out to you? Blackman does. But I

0:41:44.080 --> 0:41:46.080
<v Speaker 1>feel like I'm already on record.

0:41:46.560 --> 0:41:47.359
<v Speaker 2>I'm tapped out.

0:41:47.800 --> 0:41:53.600
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I've seen enough on James Blackman and Spencer Sanders

0:41:53.680 --> 0:41:58.520
<v Speaker 1>is hurt. He had a freshman campaign that look, I

0:41:58.600 --> 0:42:00.960
<v Speaker 1>think going into the year made it pretty apparent that

0:42:01.640 --> 0:42:03.319
<v Speaker 1>a lot of the season was gonna hinde you what

0:42:03.320 --> 0:42:05.799
<v Speaker 1>he could do. And I haven't seen what the deal

0:42:05.880 --> 0:42:07.200
<v Speaker 1>is with his walking boot.

0:42:07.800 --> 0:42:13.200
<v Speaker 2>But you want to talk about King Cone. I have

0:42:13.280 --> 0:42:15.920
<v Speaker 2>some thoughts on Jack Cone. All right, Well, I think

0:42:15.920 --> 0:42:18.600
<v Speaker 2>he's pretty good. Give me your King Cone thoughts, go ahead.

0:42:19.120 --> 0:42:21.040
<v Speaker 2>I don't think he's ever going to be the reason

0:42:21.080 --> 0:42:25.360
<v Speaker 2>Wisconsin beats Ohio State. And if Paul christ is okay

0:42:25.400 --> 0:42:31.600
<v Speaker 2>with that, continue along. He had a program changing running

0:42:31.600 --> 0:42:33.839
<v Speaker 2>back behind him and next to him, and that's you know,

0:42:33.880 --> 0:42:36.080
<v Speaker 2>in a program that's had a ton of them. So

0:42:36.719 --> 0:42:40.560
<v Speaker 2>that running back and Jonathan Taylor tailback is gone. The

0:42:40.600 --> 0:42:45.359
<v Speaker 2>offensive line should again be good. There's experience there. Wisconsin's

0:42:45.400 --> 0:42:48.520
<v Speaker 2>never going to try to win downfield a ton and

0:42:48.640 --> 0:42:52.520
<v Speaker 2>Jack Cone completes a lot of his passes, and he

0:42:52.640 --> 0:42:55.800
<v Speaker 2>is seldom the reason they actually lose a game. Usually

0:42:55.800 --> 0:42:58.759
<v Speaker 2>they lose because of flukey reasons, or a team is

0:42:58.800 --> 0:43:02.000
<v Speaker 2>just more talented and just out wills them and outguns

0:43:02.040 --> 0:43:04.880
<v Speaker 2>them for four quarters. That's I mean, that's that's the

0:43:04.880 --> 0:43:08.799
<v Speaker 2>mark of a truly really strong program that Wisconsin clearly is.

0:43:08.840 --> 0:43:12.279
<v Speaker 2>It's a balance, it's a complete program. I am going

0:43:12.320 --> 0:43:15.280
<v Speaker 2>to be curious this year because he has a blue

0:43:15.360 --> 0:43:19.960
<v Speaker 2>chip next great QB at Wisconsin behind him on the

0:43:20.000 --> 0:43:24.279
<v Speaker 2>depth chart in Graham Mertz. That's Mertz, not arts. I

0:43:24.320 --> 0:43:28.279
<v Speaker 2>am curious to see if if they feel like what

0:43:28.480 --> 0:43:31.520
<v Speaker 2>they have outside of Jack Cone is good enough to

0:43:31.719 --> 0:43:34.680
<v Speaker 2>challenge for the conference title. They return. They've got a

0:43:34.719 --> 0:43:37.759
<v Speaker 2>lot upfront on defense, back, the secondary is in really

0:43:37.880 --> 0:43:40.640
<v Speaker 2>nice shape. They lose a couple of big time receivers,

0:43:40.719 --> 0:43:44.080
<v Speaker 2>led by what Quintes Cephis. They lose the biggest name

0:43:44.120 --> 0:43:47.960
<v Speaker 2>in the program and Jonathan Taylor tailback. But if they

0:43:48.000 --> 0:43:51.759
<v Speaker 2>feel like they're coming together nicely, I'm curious to see

0:43:51.800 --> 0:43:55.440
<v Speaker 2>how much run Graham Mertz gets if they believe he

0:43:55.680 --> 0:43:59.359
<v Speaker 2>is that next step quarterback. That to me is fascinating.

0:43:59.480 --> 0:44:02.480
<v Speaker 2>We've seen it happened before. We've seen it happen before

0:44:02.520 --> 0:44:05.120
<v Speaker 2>where we know what with Kelly Bryant, say at Clemson,

0:44:05.120 --> 0:44:09.239
<v Speaker 2>Where's like Trevor Lawrence is getting us above Alabama and

0:44:09.320 --> 0:44:12.720
<v Speaker 2>Kelly Bryan has taken us far, but we have somebody

0:44:12.800 --> 0:44:16.080
<v Speaker 2>special ready to take us to another level. I'm curious

0:44:16.160 --> 0:44:19.320
<v Speaker 2>to see how much action Grammartz gets if they feel

0:44:19.360 --> 0:44:22.880
<v Speaker 2>like that's who he is. No, I think that's fair.

0:44:22.920 --> 0:44:28.480
<v Speaker 1>And I think I sold Jack Cone short last year

0:44:29.000 --> 0:44:32.480
<v Speaker 1>because in the bit that we had seen him in

0:44:32.520 --> 0:44:35.040
<v Speaker 1>the twenty eighteen campaign, I was very underwhelmed.

0:44:35.920 --> 0:44:37.719
<v Speaker 2>But yeah, that's first year guy.

0:44:37.800 --> 0:44:41.479
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, first year guy. He did improve last season for sure,

0:44:42.320 --> 0:44:45.799
<v Speaker 1>and so that's on me for maybe not giving him

0:44:45.800 --> 0:44:48.800
<v Speaker 1>his due. But I do think there is a glass

0:44:48.800 --> 0:44:52.359
<v Speaker 1>ceiling quality to what he can provide.

0:44:52.520 --> 0:44:55.160
<v Speaker 2>He was awesome against Minnesota last year on the road

0:44:55.200 --> 0:45:00.279
<v Speaker 2>in a decisive victory. No, I mean he has I

0:45:00.320 --> 0:45:02.120
<v Speaker 2>think a little bit of that in him. I don't

0:45:02.160 --> 0:45:07.279
<v Speaker 2>know if we've fully gotten to his full potential, but

0:45:08.600 --> 0:45:13.799
<v Speaker 2>it will be interesting to watch with Graham Burts the Salies. Yeah,

0:45:13.840 --> 0:45:16.839
<v Speaker 2>I mean, he's just it's just that level thing. It's

0:45:16.880 --> 0:45:20.719
<v Speaker 2>a pretty good ceiling. But what does Wisconsin have designs

0:45:20.760 --> 0:45:24.120
<v Speaker 2>of He struggled against Oregon and certainly against Ohio State twice.

0:45:24.960 --> 0:45:28.920
<v Speaker 2>So yeah, I think we know who Jack Cone is.

0:45:29.080 --> 0:45:31.880
<v Speaker 2>It's a matter of how much is the rest of

0:45:31.920 --> 0:45:34.080
<v Speaker 2>the team around him. You know, what does the running

0:45:34.080 --> 0:45:37.080
<v Speaker 2>back position look like? With the giant vacuum that JTT

0:45:37.280 --> 0:45:41.520
<v Speaker 2>left behind. That to me is fascinating because there are pieces,

0:45:42.160 --> 0:45:46.240
<v Speaker 2>There are pieces in a short season, weird things happening.

0:45:47.040 --> 0:45:51.040
<v Speaker 2>Maybe this is the year where the Jack Cone Jamie

0:45:51.080 --> 0:45:55.200
<v Speaker 2>Moyer paint in the corners things works. But I don't know,

0:45:55.320 --> 0:45:58.480
<v Speaker 2>still seems like he has a definitive ceiling. I think

0:45:58.480 --> 0:45:58.960
<v Speaker 2>I'm with you.

0:45:59.200 --> 0:46:04.480
<v Speaker 1>And what's interesting I think about that Wisconsin offense is

0:46:04.520 --> 0:46:09.479
<v Speaker 1>it is so fundamental to having a good running game.

0:46:10.280 --> 0:46:12.759
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's a good offense for a quarterback. You're just

0:46:13.000 --> 0:46:14.759
<v Speaker 2>because of play action, because of the focus on the

0:46:14.800 --> 0:46:17.920
<v Speaker 2>running game, they're going to be open passing lanes.

0:46:18.040 --> 0:46:22.200
<v Speaker 1>That offense is always loaded in terms of the ground attack.

0:46:22.360 --> 0:46:26.400
<v Speaker 1>And we've seen a few instances over the years, and

0:46:26.480 --> 0:46:29.160
<v Speaker 1>I guess the Russell Wilson instance would probably be the

0:46:29.160 --> 0:46:33.200
<v Speaker 1>most telling. But Russ had like thirty three touchdowns in

0:46:33.239 --> 0:46:40.719
<v Speaker 1>that offense, was a Heisman contender obviously, Yeah, different iteration, right,

0:46:40.880 --> 0:46:44.680
<v Speaker 1>and now at a top flight NFL quarterback, right, Like,

0:46:44.719 --> 0:46:47.200
<v Speaker 1>these guys don't grow on trees. But my only what

0:46:47.400 --> 0:46:48.240
<v Speaker 1>is he might be the MVP?

0:46:48.480 --> 0:46:50.360
<v Speaker 2>Right? Is that a thing that I've I've heard so

0:46:50.480 --> 0:46:53.279
<v Speaker 2>far He's had an incredibly ear Okay, but my only

0:46:53.320 --> 0:46:56.879
<v Speaker 2>point is if you put a really good quarterback who

0:46:56.920 --> 0:46:59.000
<v Speaker 2>can throw and can do all the things that Russ

0:46:59.040 --> 0:47:02.080
<v Speaker 2>did in a system like that, you're right.

0:47:02.120 --> 0:47:04.960
<v Speaker 1>It's a great program, great program for a quarterback. Don't

0:47:04.960 --> 0:47:07.840
<v Speaker 1>know if Coen has all of those tools in the arsenal,

0:47:07.880 --> 0:47:10.919
<v Speaker 1>but you can get a little bit better. It makes

0:47:10.920 --> 0:47:12.920
<v Speaker 1>that team really really stout, and.

0:47:12.880 --> 0:47:15.240
<v Speaker 2>It's one that I don't think gets enough credit for

0:47:15.840 --> 0:47:19.040
<v Speaker 2>taking some steps forward to evolve. They're not just lining

0:47:19.080 --> 0:47:21.080
<v Speaker 2>up a full back and a tailback in the eye

0:47:21.120 --> 0:47:24.279
<v Speaker 2>and just slamming in for four or five yards. It

0:47:24.320 --> 0:47:28.760
<v Speaker 2>does feel like that sometimes. If it does, they've gotten

0:47:28.800 --> 0:47:35.480
<v Speaker 2>more creative. They've dallied with they've had alliances with the RPO,

0:47:35.680 --> 0:47:38.719
<v Speaker 2>with the spread, they they have gotten more creative over

0:47:38.760 --> 0:47:41.000
<v Speaker 2>the years, but they have just developed, I mean in

0:47:41.200 --> 0:47:45.680
<v Speaker 2>impressive way, that reputation for power football and developing offensive lineman,

0:47:45.760 --> 0:47:48.759
<v Speaker 2>that smash mouth element. But I do think that they've

0:47:48.760 --> 0:47:52.480
<v Speaker 2>evolved impressively because it's Evolver Die tie and they just

0:47:52.560 --> 0:47:54.879
<v Speaker 2>keep ending up in Big Ten championship games. So they're

0:47:54.880 --> 0:47:58.440
<v Speaker 2>doing something right. And so I'm just curious to see

0:47:58.480 --> 0:48:03.440
<v Speaker 2>if if Paul christ if whoever has the cajones, if

0:48:03.440 --> 0:48:07.640
<v Speaker 2>push comes to shove to say, this guy actually gives

0:48:07.760 --> 0:48:09.600
<v Speaker 2>us the best ceiling chance.

0:48:10.760 --> 0:48:15.799
<v Speaker 1>All right, Well, fun topic right in again, Solid verbal

0:48:15.840 --> 0:48:17.680
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0:48:18.719 --> 0:48:21.200
<v Speaker 1>these quarterbacks and others. Maybe that we left off the

0:48:21.280 --> 0:48:28.359
<v Speaker 1>list on our ultraviolet Friday orbit, Dan, we.

0:48:28.360 --> 0:48:31.160
<v Speaker 2>Got to get you to that observatory or the Penn

0:48:31.200 --> 0:48:35.600
<v Speaker 2>State whoever is controlling the satellite telescope stuff. That's the

0:48:35.600 --> 0:48:37.359
<v Speaker 2>field trip we need. I need to know if there's

0:48:37.400 --> 0:48:41.120
<v Speaker 2>a joystick involved. Well, first we got to get to Hawaii,

0:48:41.480 --> 0:48:43.160
<v Speaker 2>we do. First, we got to get to the man

0:48:43.320 --> 0:48:46.560
<v Speaker 2>Laya observatory up there. What was that the kek kek?

0:48:47.880 --> 0:48:49.719
<v Speaker 2>And then we can we can make our move to

0:48:49.800 --> 0:48:51.680
<v Speaker 2>State College and see.

0:48:51.520 --> 0:48:53.600
<v Speaker 1>Don't you feel like you should be into the Keck

0:48:53.640 --> 0:48:56.880
<v Speaker 1>Observatory though, like start smaller at Penn State.

0:48:58.040 --> 0:49:03.960
<v Speaker 2>I guess, but we shouted out Keck first, so I

0:49:04.040 --> 0:49:05.239
<v Speaker 2>think they deserve priority.

0:49:05.280 --> 0:49:07.600
<v Speaker 1>We don't want a Max dug In situation where we

0:49:08.560 --> 0:49:10.440
<v Speaker 1>step up to the big leagues before we're ready.

0:49:11.440 --> 0:49:13.960
<v Speaker 2>That's true. Okay, so we'll get you on that joystick

0:49:14.000 --> 0:49:15.120
<v Speaker 2>at in State College.

0:49:15.520 --> 0:49:18.520
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<v Speaker 2>Schwartz former offensive lineman. You've heard them on Serious, read

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<v Speaker 2>them at Espionation, the Athletic, ESPN, whatever. And he also

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<v Speaker 2>talks about life navigating this world as a six foot six,

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<v Speaker 2>three hundred and forty pounds gentleman.

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<v Speaker 1>This week, I believe now talking about bathroom emergencies at

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<v Speaker 1>thirty thousand feet correct.

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<v Speaker 2>That is correct. And bless any flight attendant trying to

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<v Speaker 2>stand in his way when he's not supposed to be

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<v Speaker 2>standing up and in the aisle because he has an emergency.

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<v Speaker 2>Bless him for.

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<v Speaker 1>That guy over there, my good friend Dan Rubinstein, from myself,

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<v Speaker 1>Ty hilden Brandt, enjoy the week of games. Call in

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<v Speaker 1>four weaight verbal one four eight eight, three seven two

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<v Speaker 1>five to one. I'd love to hear you reverbs. Love

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<v Speaker 1>to make you part of our show in the meantime.

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<v Speaker 1>We will catch you all on Sunday and meantimes.

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<v Speaker 2>Stay solid, peace,