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Speaker 1: And Dan and Tie.

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Speaker 2: Welcome back to the song Parble Boys and Girls.

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Speaker 1: It's Friday.

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Speaker 2: People can tell. I think at this point, the more

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Speaker 1: It's Friday. Get psyched. Welcome back in. It's the UFO Show.

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Speaker 1: I am Tie, he is Dan. Thank you for tuning

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Speaker 1: into the Friday rendition of this crazy college football podcast

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Speaker 2: visually and maybe not be as confused. Did you have

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Speaker 2: you seen comments that people are like I thought Ty

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Speaker 2: was Dan this entire time, and this is really screwing

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Speaker 2: me up. Yeah, I enjoy those comments a lot. I

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Speaker 2: guess you look like a Dan and I look like

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Speaker 2: excited to do that. We don't have a ton in

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Speaker 2: the way of news, just that there's more football happening

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Speaker 2: tomorrow or today, depending on when you listen to this.

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Speaker 2: The PAC twelve may vote tonight, today, tomorrow, I don't know,

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Speaker 2: but at the time of our recording they have not.

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Speaker 2: where the University of Colorado is. There have been some

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Speaker 2: the same time, California has made further exemptions for college

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Speaker 2: it's a dumb one. I know, man, all of our

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Speaker 1: The votes right, Like if you read the press clippings

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Speaker 2: it's right there. So I'm positive this is happening on

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Speaker 2: But I would like there to be a requirement on

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Speaker 2: to just monitor things from a quality control standpoint, a.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, because if you can't figure that out. You shouldn't

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Speaker 1: I do need to know more about this. So if

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Speaker 1: we have any insight sources out there, solidverbal at gmail

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Speaker 1: call the reverblind this weekend. Yeah, you know, four to

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Speaker 1: in the moment we went in the moment reaction. As

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Speaker 2: And we're getting closer to Big ten seasons. So perhaps

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Speaker 2: headline now as we record this. It looks like Rondelle

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Speaker 1: Open enrollment, Baby, open enrollment come and go as you please,

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Speaker 2: So the Big Ten, with the addition of both Rondelle

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Speaker 2: I think we mentioned the Notre Dame Wake Forest cancelation,

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Speaker 2: not anything to do with Houston positive tests as far

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Speaker 2: the protocols. So it looks like by my count, four

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Speaker 1: Should we get to our game this year, I'd love

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Speaker 1: to UFO, baby, UFO. Let's do it.

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Speaker 2: Who what's what's this week's you time? This week Friday orbit.

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Speaker 1: Is ultraviolet Dan? Okay, okay, welcome on in to our

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Speaker 1: ultraviolet Friday orbit. Would you like to hear why it

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Speaker 1: is a ultra violet Friddy orbit? Dan? Of course, what

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Speaker 1: do you know about UV light? Have you ever heard

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Speaker 1: of UV? Ultraviolet light?

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Speaker 2: Yes? I know it comes from the sun.

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Speaker 1: No.

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Speaker 2: Correct, It's why I have to wear sun's screen. It

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Speaker 2: it even though it has the word violet. And it'd

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Speaker 2: Using ultraviolet light. The Swift Observatory, it's a satellite up

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Speaker 1: Oh I should know this.

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Speaker 2: The Neil Garrels Swift Observatory shooting high res ultraviolet space

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Speaker 1: Sorry, Dan. Uv light makes up about ten percent of

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Speaker 1: No, it is a better offensive coordinator situation. I hate

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he hasn't yet, he said flashes. I don't know.

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Speaker 2: So no, no, I think it is part of it.

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Speaker 1: None of what you said is out of bounds, and

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he the Iowa game was rough, and I don't

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Speaker 1: forward to seeing his twenty twenty campaign get underway whenever

439
00:23:03,280 --> 00:23:05,040
Speaker 1: that is. Don't know if it's going to be this weekend.

440
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Speaker 1: But you're a huge Max dug and fan, Dan, aren't you.

441
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Speaker 2: I like his arm strength more than Clifford's. I think

442
00:23:13,600 --> 00:23:16,440
Speaker 2: his top end speed is higher than Clifford's as well.

443
00:23:17,359 --> 00:23:20,480
Speaker 2: I worry about a little bit about receivers in the

444
00:23:20,480 --> 00:23:23,240
Speaker 2: offense at TCU after taking the step back that it took.

445
00:23:24,000 --> 00:23:28,360
Speaker 2: It was rough, It like full on difficult to watch

446
00:23:28,720 --> 00:23:30,680
Speaker 2: last year. And I know people were pointing to his

447
00:23:30,760 --> 00:23:32,560
Speaker 2: dual threat ability in the yards he was able to

448
00:23:32,600 --> 00:23:36,320
Speaker 2: pick up on the ground, but there was in watching

449
00:23:36,359 --> 00:23:39,760
Speaker 2: Max Duggan. I watched a quarterback who probably should have

450
00:23:39,840 --> 00:23:44,240
Speaker 2: red shirted, who probably should have taken time to get

451
00:23:44,320 --> 00:23:47,960
Speaker 2: mental reps because the mistakes that he made seemed to

452
00:23:48,000 --> 00:23:53,239
Speaker 2: be you know, communications, breakdowns with receivers, not understanding his

453
00:23:53,359 --> 00:23:56,000
Speaker 2: reads and who to read, and you know, it was

454
00:23:56,480 --> 00:23:58,359
Speaker 2: it was a happy feed situation. And I know he

455
00:23:58,400 --> 00:24:00,240
Speaker 2: was thrust into that starting role. I'm sure he was

456
00:24:00,280 --> 00:24:03,159
Speaker 2: the best option. You know, TCU has had transfer issues

457
00:24:03,160 --> 00:24:06,240
Speaker 2: and injury issues, so that was probably the best move

458
00:24:06,400 --> 00:24:09,760
Speaker 2: and he was a playmaker. So I'm I'm encouraged that

459
00:24:10,800 --> 00:24:14,320
Speaker 2: he can be someone who develops with those mental reps

460
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Speaker 2: into a top half of the Big twelve quarterback. But

461
00:24:19,680 --> 00:24:24,480
Speaker 2: TCU ceiling if he doesn't take a noticeable jump this year.

462
00:24:25,400 --> 00:24:27,800
Speaker 2: It's hard to imagine that they can just be led

463
00:24:27,840 --> 00:24:30,520
Speaker 2: by you know, running the ball and defense and him

464
00:24:30,520 --> 00:24:33,040
Speaker 2: not turning the ball over. They're going to need a

465
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Speaker 2: plus year for Max Duggan to have any chance of

466
00:24:36,400 --> 00:24:38,119
Speaker 2: taking a step forward, or else they're going to waste

467
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Speaker 2: what looks to be another pretty good defense.

468
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that's I think that's accurate. I would

469
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Speaker 1: point to some of the efficiency numbers though, that we

470
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Speaker 1: saw last year, and they just they weren't efficient through

471
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Speaker 1: the air at all. No, as a whole. I remember

472
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Speaker 1: doing the TCU preview year ago expecting more out of

473
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Speaker 1: the ground game. Then ultimately they ended up getting it.

474
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Speaker 1: I mean, they were fine on the ground. I'm not

475
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Speaker 1: implying they were a terrible rushing team or anything like that,

476
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Speaker 1: but I expected more. We didn't get it, And I

477
00:25:12,560 --> 00:25:15,760
Speaker 1: think you're right to say that there was definitely a

478
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Speaker 1: he should have red shirted quality to what we saw

479
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Speaker 1: a year ago. That said, I think the potential jumps

480
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Speaker 1: off the page at you. Yeah, you can look at

481
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Speaker 1: the numbers and they tell you one story, but if

482
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Speaker 1: you watch him out there, there's a moxie that I like.

483
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Speaker 2: No, there's an element, especially with the way he runs

484
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Speaker 2: the ball, that if they can better tailor the offense

485
00:25:40,040 --> 00:25:43,800
Speaker 2: to his dual threat ability, it should open things up.

486
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Speaker 2: In the past game, I don't know if it's more

487
00:25:45,680 --> 00:25:47,960
Speaker 2: zone read stuff. I don't know if it's more rollout stuff,

488
00:25:48,040 --> 00:25:50,960
Speaker 2: quick read or go kind of things for him. But

489
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Speaker 2: down Max Duggan, and this was it was an offensive

490
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Speaker 2: issue at every level, but down Max Duggan brought t

491
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Speaker 2: Seed down. He was the reason. I mean, every quarterback

492
00:26:04,080 --> 00:26:06,119
Speaker 2: is if an offense has a down game basically, but

493
00:26:06,880 --> 00:26:10,720
Speaker 2: it was another like it. It was kind of Kenny

494
00:26:10,720 --> 00:26:14,560
Speaker 2: pickettish to me that it becomes very tough TV to

495
00:26:14,600 --> 00:26:17,639
Speaker 2: watch and I am desperate to watch football. And what

496
00:26:17,760 --> 00:26:20,760
Speaker 2: TCU's offense looked like at times against the better teams

497
00:26:20,760 --> 00:26:23,040
Speaker 2: on their schedule, it was just bad TV.

498
00:26:25,080 --> 00:26:29,919
Speaker 1: Speaking of bad TV, let's talk about Jared Guarantano.

499
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Speaker 2: Okay, well this, I mean there's a very stark contrast here.

500
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Speaker 1: I'm ready, Yeah, I don't feel like Guarantanno has gotten

501
00:26:38,960 --> 00:26:44,239
Speaker 1: any better, and he has I don't know. There is

502
00:26:44,400 --> 00:26:50,880
Speaker 1: a definitive Boomer bust quality to Guarantano, and the extremes

503
00:26:50,920 --> 00:26:55,440
Speaker 1: are are pretty polarizing. We've got games where last year

504
00:26:55,480 --> 00:27:00,879
Speaker 1: he threw for over four hundred against Missouri. We've got

505
00:27:00,920 --> 00:27:03,639
Speaker 1: other games that have been far from four hundred, and

506
00:27:03,640 --> 00:27:06,840
Speaker 1: he's gotten hurt where do we stand on Guarantano? Is

507
00:27:06,840 --> 00:27:10,120
Speaker 1: he getting better? How do you feel about him? Within

508
00:27:10,160 --> 00:27:13,640
Speaker 1: the framework of the twenty twenty Tennessee campaign.

509
00:27:14,840 --> 00:27:17,800
Speaker 2: So quarterback was sort of up in the air for Tennessee.

510
00:27:17,920 --> 00:27:22,679
Speaker 2: They rotated, they started Brian Moore or whatever, and it

511
00:27:22,840 --> 00:27:27,080
Speaker 2: sort of I think, can shake a quarterback's confidence. Physically good,

512
00:27:27,200 --> 00:27:31,120
Speaker 2: Jarrett Guarantano is crazy impressive now. The bottom of the

513
00:27:31,160 --> 00:27:33,440
Speaker 2: SEC is where he made a lot of his hay

514
00:27:33,520 --> 00:27:38,080
Speaker 2: last year, and so he was pretty bad in extended

515
00:27:38,160 --> 00:27:41,520
Speaker 2: time against the best teams on Tennessee schedule. Now their

516
00:27:41,560 --> 00:27:44,200
Speaker 2: schedule should be better this year in terms of the

517
00:27:44,280 --> 00:27:48,000
Speaker 2: hit after hit after hit. But it's just the way

518
00:27:48,040 --> 00:27:50,040
Speaker 2: he was not able to come out of the gates

519
00:27:50,119 --> 00:27:53,199
Speaker 2: last year was definitely a knock against him. He was,

520
00:27:53,480 --> 00:27:56,520
Speaker 2: I guess okay against Georgia State and not that great

521
00:27:56,520 --> 00:28:00,399
Speaker 2: against BYU, and then things just got worse over the

522
00:28:00,440 --> 00:28:03,439
Speaker 2: first half of that season. But he did, to me

523
00:28:03,800 --> 00:28:06,960
Speaker 2: regain some confidence at least against the lower part of

524
00:28:07,000 --> 00:28:10,520
Speaker 2: the conference. Now, Tennessee has designs of being and I

525
00:28:10,520 --> 00:28:15,080
Speaker 2: think rightfully so competitive against the class of the conference,

526
00:28:15,800 --> 00:28:19,439
Speaker 2: and so for jareded Garantano to be a part of

527
00:28:19,480 --> 00:28:22,840
Speaker 2: that improvement. It's I mean, it's basically all going to

528
00:28:22,880 --> 00:28:25,840
Speaker 2: be on his consistency and accuracy. And he's had a

529
00:28:25,920 --> 00:28:28,920
Speaker 2: number of different offensive coordinators. He has now year two

530
00:28:28,960 --> 00:28:33,080
Speaker 2: with Jim Cheney seems like he's irrefutably the dude. And

531
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Speaker 2: so now going into this year, it's the winnable games

532
00:28:36,920 --> 00:28:40,280
Speaker 2: that he has to perform much much better, and so

533
00:28:40,400 --> 00:28:42,680
Speaker 2: last year that was Georgia State and BYU. Of course.

534
00:28:44,000 --> 00:28:47,520
Speaker 2: Beyond that, though, when he had extended periods of time

535
00:28:47,600 --> 00:28:51,480
Speaker 2: last year, especially that second half, he looked more confident.

536
00:28:51,520 --> 00:28:54,240
Speaker 2: He was stepping into his throes, he was extending plays

537
00:28:54,240 --> 00:28:56,600
Speaker 2: with his feet, he was spreading the ball out nicely.

538
00:28:57,080 --> 00:29:03,720
Speaker 2: So I think his upside is still fine. What he

539
00:29:03,800 --> 00:29:07,320
Speaker 2: has around him is it seems like it's more impressive

540
00:29:07,320 --> 00:29:09,400
Speaker 2: than it ever has been, even losing a couple of

541
00:29:09,440 --> 00:29:16,080
Speaker 2: big pass catchers. So I'm cautiously optimistic that his slope

542
00:29:16,160 --> 00:29:21,880
Speaker 2: is moving, maybe not sharply, but upward. And so he

543
00:29:22,400 --> 00:29:25,920
Speaker 2: was confident going downfields in November. I think it'll carry

544
00:29:26,000 --> 00:29:29,800
Speaker 2: over somewhat given the continuity just with the coaching staff,

545
00:29:29,840 --> 00:29:31,760
Speaker 2: and I saw Jeremy Proul got an extension as well.

546
00:29:31,760 --> 00:29:33,760
Speaker 2: I don't know that's not going to affect him, but

547
00:29:33,800 --> 00:29:36,040
Speaker 2: the continuity to me seems like a big deal.

548
00:29:37,840 --> 00:29:42,560
Speaker 1: Yeah. I you know, here's a thing. It's been a

549
00:29:42,600 --> 00:29:45,160
Speaker 1: work in progress at Tennessee for a long time. This

550
00:29:45,320 --> 00:29:49,040
Speaker 1: is not lost on Tennessee fans anywhere. It's been a

551
00:29:49,040 --> 00:29:52,120
Speaker 1: work in progress. I think they've got the guy now

552
00:29:52,120 --> 00:29:56,360
Speaker 1: with Jeremy Pruett. The way the team played, especially on defense,

553
00:29:56,400 --> 00:29:58,760
Speaker 1: I keep coming back to this. Down the stretch last

554
00:29:58,840 --> 00:30:02,360
Speaker 1: year was really telling about where this team is at

555
00:30:02,480 --> 00:30:06,480
Speaker 1: and that they've bought into his system. The offense should

556
00:30:06,520 --> 00:30:09,840
Speaker 1: be a lot better this year. I've locked Tennessee up

557
00:30:09,840 --> 00:30:12,560
Speaker 1: by the way Week one on the road South Carolina

558
00:30:12,640 --> 00:30:15,880
Speaker 1: at night minus three. I don't like locking up road teams,

559
00:30:15,920 --> 00:30:19,000
Speaker 1: but I think this core that is coming back on

560
00:30:19,080 --> 00:30:22,040
Speaker 1: both sides of the football for the balls is really

561
00:30:22,080 --> 00:30:24,560
Speaker 1: exciting and if you're a Valls fan, you should feel

562
00:30:24,560 --> 00:30:27,800
Speaker 1: good about it. The running game I think should improve.

563
00:30:28,320 --> 00:30:31,160
Speaker 1: It has to improve. It's going to be year two

564
00:30:31,240 --> 00:30:35,280
Speaker 1: under offensive consultant Jim Cheney. If Guaran Tano can get

565
00:30:35,280 --> 00:30:38,040
Speaker 1: a little bit more of a support net, he probably

566
00:30:38,080 --> 00:30:40,920
Speaker 1: wouldn't have to do as much in order to improve.

567
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Speaker 1: That is what I am counting on. So I don't

568
00:30:43,840 --> 00:30:47,680
Speaker 1: know if from a skills standpoint, we've seen anything that

569
00:30:48,080 --> 00:30:50,640
Speaker 1: makes me feel all that excited about his ability to

570
00:30:50,640 --> 00:30:53,760
Speaker 1: get better. But I think if the system improves, it's

571
00:30:53,880 --> 00:30:56,640
Speaker 1: got like a rising tide lifting all boats quality to it,

572
00:30:57,440 --> 00:31:00,000
Speaker 1: and his numbers will improve and Tennessee will improve.

573
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Speaker 2: Two, if Tennessee is to have a definitively improved season

574
00:31:05,760 --> 00:31:09,120
Speaker 2: given the tennisans from last year, they have to win

575
00:31:09,160 --> 00:31:11,680
Speaker 2: their first two games. That's mandatory. They have to win

576
00:31:11,720 --> 00:31:13,400
Speaker 2: on the road in Columbia, and they have to beat

577
00:31:13,400 --> 00:31:16,680
Speaker 2: Missou with the first year head coach in Knoxville. On

578
00:31:16,760 --> 00:31:19,040
Speaker 2: the back half of their schedule, which is I mean

579
00:31:19,080 --> 00:31:21,680
Speaker 2: the three other four final games, it's hosting Texas A

580
00:31:21,720 --> 00:31:24,800
Speaker 2: and M, Auburn on the road, Florida at home. So

581
00:31:25,520 --> 00:31:27,880
Speaker 2: if they're able to start to and zero, it's that

582
00:31:28,080 --> 00:31:30,280
Speaker 2: A and M game at home that I have circled

583
00:31:30,320 --> 00:31:34,840
Speaker 2: like this is the referendum on Tennessee progress. Texas A

584
00:31:34,880 --> 00:31:38,480
Speaker 2: and M at home coming out week after Fayetteville and

585
00:31:38,560 --> 00:31:41,920
Speaker 2: Arkansas on the road. If they're able to beat Texas

586
00:31:41,960 --> 00:31:44,360
Speaker 2: A and M in Knoxville, there is your proof of

587
00:31:44,400 --> 00:31:47,760
Speaker 2: concept of not just Jarrick Garantano, but Tennessee as.

588
00:31:47,680 --> 00:31:50,720
Speaker 1: A whole, let's stay with A and M. Then you

589
00:31:50,800 --> 00:31:57,440
Speaker 1: mentioned ABM. Kellen Mond is an interesting case here. We

590
00:31:57,520 --> 00:32:00,760
Speaker 1: talked about him last year, at least I did in

591
00:32:00,800 --> 00:32:06,320
Speaker 1: the context of first off, the schedule was brutal nine

592
00:32:06,800 --> 00:32:11,840
Speaker 1: did not do them any favors, but it was always

593
00:32:11,880 --> 00:32:13,960
Speaker 1: a situation where they were going to go as far

594
00:32:14,080 --> 00:32:18,520
Speaker 1: as Kellen Mond could take him, and ultimately they ended

595
00:32:18,600 --> 00:32:21,840
Speaker 1: up going what eight and five throughout the course of

596
00:32:21,840 --> 00:32:24,200
Speaker 1: the year wonon the bowl game. Seven and five, I think,

597
00:32:24,240 --> 00:32:28,040
Speaker 1: again a byproduct of the schedule. Good enough team, top

598
00:32:28,080 --> 00:32:28,800
Speaker 1: twenty ish team.

599
00:32:29,600 --> 00:32:30,720
Speaker 2: How do you feel about Kellamond?

600
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Speaker 1: I like him, and I think unhealthily so okay, I

601
00:32:38,040 --> 00:32:41,680
Speaker 1: think I'm way too high on Kellen Mond than perhaps

602
00:32:41,720 --> 00:32:44,800
Speaker 1: I should be. You do have these yippie moments where

603
00:32:44,800 --> 00:32:46,560
Speaker 1: he makes a really bad throw, but then at the

604
00:32:46,600 --> 00:32:50,800
Speaker 1: same time he is very indicative of this game, right, Like,

605
00:32:51,480 --> 00:32:54,360
Speaker 1: there are qualities to Kellen Mond that you look at him,

606
00:32:54,360 --> 00:32:56,040
Speaker 1: you see him out there running around, you see him

607
00:32:56,040 --> 00:32:59,440
Speaker 1: scoreing eight touchdowns, you see him making a big time throw.

608
00:32:59,480 --> 00:33:01,720
Speaker 1: It's like, and this kid's got a lot of promise.

609
00:33:02,400 --> 00:33:02,800
Speaker 2: Mm hmm.

610
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Speaker 1: You can't say that though without at least acknowledging the downside,

611
00:33:06,920 --> 00:33:08,080
Speaker 1: like there's plenty of that too.

612
00:33:10,160 --> 00:33:13,320
Speaker 2: I totally agree. I rewatched all of his throws from

613
00:33:13,360 --> 00:33:15,760
Speaker 2: the Georgia game because I specifically wanted to look at

614
00:33:15,840 --> 00:33:18,920
Speaker 2: for any of these guys games in which they sort

615
00:33:18,920 --> 00:33:23,479
Speaker 2: of were their most average self, and had they been better,

616
00:33:24,240 --> 00:33:27,200
Speaker 2: they probably would have given their team a better chance

617
00:33:27,240 --> 00:33:29,480
Speaker 2: to win. Now, that was a close game, that Georgia game.

618
00:33:29,560 --> 00:33:33,520
Speaker 2: That was a questionably officiated game, to say the very least.

619
00:33:34,320 --> 00:33:36,720
Speaker 2: But I came away from that game and just from

620
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Speaker 2: the general Kellen monding, general Kellen Mond experience. Excuse me,

621
00:33:41,040 --> 00:33:46,600
Speaker 2: always returning to the phrase where was this Kellen Mond earlier?

622
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Speaker 1: Yeah?

623
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Speaker 2: Where is this Kellenmond against this team? Where was this

624
00:33:50,920 --> 00:33:53,040
Speaker 2: Kellen Mond against that team? Where was this Kelen moond

625
00:33:53,080 --> 00:33:55,800
Speaker 2: in the first quarter, the second quarter? Because against that

626
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Speaker 2: Georgia defense, mind you, maybe the best pass defense in

627
00:33:58,520 --> 00:34:04,000
Speaker 2: the country, incredible pasty defense. He was stepping into his

628
00:34:04,040 --> 00:34:07,480
Speaker 2: own offensive line after holding the ball too long early

629
00:34:07,520 --> 00:34:10,800
Speaker 2: on in that game. He was missing open slants, missing

630
00:34:10,840 --> 00:34:14,600
Speaker 2: open hitches, makeable throws, throws that would have taken Texas

631
00:34:14,640 --> 00:34:16,520
Speaker 2: A and M from second to ten, to third and

632
00:34:16,560 --> 00:34:19,879
Speaker 2: three or to a first down, and then he's he's

633
00:34:19,920 --> 00:34:23,400
Speaker 2: making those throws in the fourth quarter. And mind you,

634
00:34:23,480 --> 00:34:25,719
Speaker 2: they didn't get into the end zone the first three

635
00:34:25,800 --> 00:34:28,680
Speaker 2: quarters of that game, but he was when there was

636
00:34:28,719 --> 00:34:33,239
Speaker 2: an urgency to the game. He became a gamer. I

637
00:34:33,320 --> 00:34:36,760
Speaker 2: just need to see four straight quarters of that Kellen Mond.

638
00:34:36,800 --> 00:34:39,560
Speaker 2: He sales a lot of balls. He takes a little

639
00:34:39,600 --> 00:34:43,200
Speaker 2: bit too long in the pocket sometimes, but the best

640
00:34:43,280 --> 00:34:46,120
Speaker 2: of Kellen Mond, both as a runner and as a thrower,

641
00:34:47,200 --> 00:34:50,560
Speaker 2: is pretty intriguing. It doesn't seem like Jimbo and that

642
00:34:50,640 --> 00:34:53,919
Speaker 2: staff fully trust him to go downfield a ton, which

643
00:34:53,960 --> 00:34:56,760
Speaker 2: is fine, play within your ability and if you're constrained

644
00:34:56,800 --> 00:34:59,800
Speaker 2: by your system, just played to the best of that system. Whatever.

645
00:35:00,360 --> 00:35:04,000
Speaker 2: But now without potentially his number one receiver, I don't

646
00:35:04,000 --> 00:35:07,360
Speaker 2: know how much both he is going to be trusted,

647
00:35:07,360 --> 00:35:08,839
Speaker 2: the receivers are going to be trusted. I know there's

648
00:35:08,840 --> 00:35:13,160
Speaker 2: in some intriguing speed in college station, but I'm fascinated

649
00:35:13,200 --> 00:35:14,920
Speaker 2: to see with and I have texts, say and M

650
00:35:14,960 --> 00:35:17,719
Speaker 2: schedule in front of me. Three fascinating games after their

651
00:35:17,719 --> 00:35:20,680
Speaker 2: opener against Vanderbilt on the road against Alabama, Florida and

652
00:35:20,719 --> 00:35:25,160
Speaker 2: Mississippi State Florida at home in week three? Is that

653
00:35:25,360 --> 00:35:29,439
Speaker 2: Kellen Moond referendum a good defense not the absolute best

654
00:35:29,440 --> 00:35:33,040
Speaker 2: in the SEC? At home with some time after playing

655
00:35:33,080 --> 00:35:35,399
Speaker 2: Vanderbilt and Alabama to get a sense of what your

656
00:35:35,560 --> 00:35:40,080
Speaker 2: offense is and isn't. That is the referendum on the

657
00:35:40,280 --> 00:35:45,000
Speaker 2: Kellen Moond evolution. Because as a human, he's been crazy impressive.

658
00:35:45,080 --> 00:35:48,919
Speaker 2: Specific moments, specific plays, specific games, he's been impressive. Now

659
00:35:48,920 --> 00:35:52,000
Speaker 2: it's time to just this is. He's in grad school.

660
00:35:52,040 --> 00:35:54,160
Speaker 2: Now it's time to get that masters.

661
00:35:54,960 --> 00:35:59,080
Speaker 1: No, I think that all tracks Dan, Okay, I was

662
00:35:59,160 --> 00:36:02,160
Speaker 1: intrigued by my mind last year. I have been the

663
00:36:02,200 --> 00:36:05,560
Speaker 1: whole time, but I am especially so this year.

664
00:36:06,360 --> 00:36:06,839
Speaker 2: I really am.

665
00:36:06,920 --> 00:36:09,759
Speaker 1: I think grad school is probably a good way to

666
00:36:09,760 --> 00:36:10,040
Speaker 1: put it.

667
00:36:10,920 --> 00:36:13,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's time to secure the masters.

668
00:36:14,239 --> 00:36:19,279
Speaker 1: Let's go to bo Nix bo Nicks. Okay it is.

669
00:36:19,400 --> 00:36:21,600
Speaker 1: Do I have an argument with bow Nicks because I

670
00:36:21,640 --> 00:36:22,640
Speaker 1: sort of made it last year?

671
00:36:23,960 --> 00:36:24,400
Speaker 2: Okay?

672
00:36:24,719 --> 00:36:28,400
Speaker 1: Do I have an argument that the final stat line

673
00:36:28,440 --> 00:36:33,320
Speaker 1: for him does not fully tell the story?

674
00:36:34,040 --> 00:36:35,400
Speaker 2: Yeah? In some ways?

675
00:36:35,520 --> 00:36:40,240
Speaker 1: Okay, continue because I feel like at the very beginning

676
00:36:40,239 --> 00:36:43,640
Speaker 1: of the season, so last year, if we turn the page,

677
00:36:45,080 --> 00:36:47,160
Speaker 1: beat Oregon in his first game. It was a game

678
00:36:47,200 --> 00:36:51,600
Speaker 1: Oregon could have won. Yeah, I remember, well beat Oregon

679
00:36:51,760 --> 00:36:54,839
Speaker 1: by what a touchdown? Twenty seven twenty one.

680
00:36:54,880 --> 00:36:55,200
Speaker 2: Here we go.

681
00:36:56,520 --> 00:36:59,840
Speaker 1: He had moments in that game where he looked wise

682
00:37:00,000 --> 00:37:03,640
Speaker 1: beyond his years. He was a true freshman starting. He's

683
00:37:03,640 --> 00:37:06,400
Speaker 1: a legacy, you know. There was a lot of steam

684
00:37:06,440 --> 00:37:10,399
Speaker 1: on bow Knicks coming in. Numbers weren't great, but had

685
00:37:10,480 --> 00:37:13,000
Speaker 1: some moments in that game where it was like, Okay,

686
00:37:13,040 --> 00:37:15,520
Speaker 1: this is a kid who's a gamer, and I think

687
00:37:15,560 --> 00:37:18,920
Speaker 1: that much is is true the full way through. What

688
00:37:18,920 --> 00:37:21,480
Speaker 1: I would say though, is that those moments sort of

689
00:37:21,480 --> 00:37:27,520
Speaker 1: waned right, Like there were moments against Alabama that were

690
00:37:27,760 --> 00:37:31,719
Speaker 1: really exciting, and there were moments against Georgia that made

691
00:37:31,760 --> 00:37:36,560
Speaker 1: you feel good, but there were like three interceptions against

692
00:37:36,560 --> 00:37:38,200
Speaker 1: Florida that didn't make you feel so high.

693
00:37:38,239 --> 00:37:40,000
Speaker 2: I was a rough watch. That was a rough watch

694
00:37:40,040 --> 00:37:40,719
Speaker 2: of a game, yep.

695
00:37:41,280 --> 00:37:45,600
Speaker 1: And there were the kind of those downer moments along

696
00:37:45,640 --> 00:37:49,000
Speaker 1: the way as well, where it was never fully apparent

697
00:37:49,080 --> 00:37:53,040
Speaker 1: whether these were freshmen type things or whether this was

698
00:37:53,080 --> 00:37:56,040
Speaker 1: a bow Knix type of thing. We will find out

699
00:37:56,120 --> 00:38:00,320
Speaker 1: more this coming weekend. I saw him big Boy Yet's

700
00:38:00,719 --> 00:38:04,960
Speaker 1: Jeff took Kentucky outright he did, because part of what

701
00:38:05,040 --> 00:38:07,560
Speaker 1: bo Nicks has working against him this year is that

702
00:38:07,600 --> 00:38:10,839
Speaker 1: he's got an entirely new offensive line and also an

703
00:38:10,920 --> 00:38:14,960
Speaker 1: entirely new offense coordinator to some extent that he has

704
00:38:15,000 --> 00:38:17,319
Speaker 1: to tran Lern. So I don't know if we get

705
00:38:17,360 --> 00:38:21,320
Speaker 1: the answer to that in twenty twenty, but Bonnicks, to me,

706
00:38:21,560 --> 00:38:24,560
Speaker 1: it's we're at least within the context of this game,

707
00:38:25,680 --> 00:38:28,200
Speaker 1: we are dealing with that question of how much of

708
00:38:28,239 --> 00:38:31,359
Speaker 1: this was just him being a freshman versus how much

709
00:38:31,400 --> 00:38:33,920
Speaker 1: of this is something that we expect to continue now

710
00:38:33,920 --> 00:38:39,200
Speaker 1: into twenty twenty. Well, there are very few true freshmen

711
00:38:39,239 --> 00:38:41,520
Speaker 1: who are ready to play quarterback at a high level

712
00:38:41,560 --> 00:38:44,440
Speaker 1: from day one in a major conference. Let's get out

713
00:38:44,440 --> 00:38:46,080
Speaker 1: of that out of the way. That this is not

714
00:38:46,600 --> 00:38:49,680
Speaker 1: his struggles last year are not fully on him. Like

715
00:38:49,760 --> 00:38:52,440
Speaker 1: you can name the guys who have come in to

716
00:38:52,520 --> 00:38:56,439
Speaker 1: a huge program with a stacked schedule like Auburn had

717
00:38:56,520 --> 00:39:00,279
Speaker 1: last year and we're above average, that's a just a

718
00:39:00,400 --> 00:39:03,200
Speaker 1: near impossibility. So with that out of the way, there

719
00:39:03,239 --> 00:39:07,480
Speaker 1: was a timidity. He was timid going downfield somewhat after

720
00:39:07,920 --> 00:39:11,520
Speaker 1: some lack of success overthrowing dudes. He has a terrific

721
00:39:11,640 --> 00:39:14,880
Speaker 1: arm like. Physically, bon Nix is in a fantastic space.

722
00:39:15,000 --> 00:39:18,759
Speaker 1: The architecture of last year's offense was pretty questionable, in

723
00:39:18,880 --> 00:39:22,160
Speaker 1: terms of play calling, in terms of injuries, in terms

724
00:39:22,200 --> 00:39:25,319
Speaker 1: of shuffling, what kinds of throws he was trusted to

725
00:39:25,400 --> 00:39:28,240
Speaker 1: make week in week out. At his worst, he looked

726
00:39:28,239 --> 00:39:32,040
Speaker 1: like he was in way over his head, and at

727
00:39:32,040 --> 00:39:35,080
Speaker 1: his best he looked like he was way in. He

728
00:39:35,239 --> 00:39:38,440
Speaker 1: was in way over his head. But when it counted,

729
00:39:38,640 --> 00:39:42,160
Speaker 1: he was able to come through. And that happened against Oregon.

730
00:39:42,200 --> 00:39:46,279
Speaker 1: That happened against Alabama after kind of lackluster performances. So

731
00:39:46,320 --> 00:39:49,919
Speaker 1: I guess win your personal clunkers, which bon Nicks did.

732
00:39:50,480 --> 00:39:54,960
Speaker 1: So I'm encouraged by his ceiling. I'm encouraged by some

733
00:39:55,040 --> 00:39:58,279
Speaker 1: of the skill talent, especially at receiver around him, but

734
00:39:58,480 --> 00:40:00,880
Speaker 1: the shuffling that's happening literally in front of him along

735
00:40:00,920 --> 00:40:03,600
Speaker 1: his line. And now with a new offensive coordinator and

736
00:40:03,640 --> 00:40:05,799
Speaker 1: hopefully it's it'll be a more of a quick hit

737
00:40:05,880 --> 00:40:08,560
Speaker 1: offense like what Chad Morris did at Clemson. So that

738
00:40:08,600 --> 00:40:10,239
Speaker 1: gets him into a rhythm and gets the ball out

739
00:40:10,239 --> 00:40:12,200
Speaker 1: of his hand quickly, so he doesn't need to sit

740
00:40:12,280 --> 00:40:14,840
Speaker 1: in a pocket and make longer reads and go downfield

741
00:40:14,960 --> 00:40:18,920
Speaker 1: as the entirety of the Auburn offense. But I am

742
00:40:19,680 --> 00:40:23,279
Speaker 1: hopeful with a new offense that Bnicks is going to

743
00:40:23,320 --> 00:40:26,520
Speaker 1: look more comfortable, not just because he's older, but because

744
00:40:26,760 --> 00:40:29,000
Speaker 1: we have a sense and I'm sure obviously the coaches

745
00:40:29,000 --> 00:40:32,160
Speaker 1: have a sense of what he can and can't do comfortably.

746
00:40:32,960 --> 00:40:37,719
Speaker 1: His twenty nineteen campaign was an omelet cooked in an

747
00:40:37,800 --> 00:40:39,759
Speaker 1: uneven cast iron pan.

748
00:40:40,320 --> 00:40:42,719
Speaker 2: I like this new omelet tie. I like this.

749
00:40:43,160 --> 00:40:46,960
Speaker 1: Some spots the bottom was browned. Other spots it was

750
00:40:47,000 --> 00:40:51,400
Speaker 1: still running, not cook the full way through. Just in speak,

751
00:40:51,480 --> 00:40:55,359
Speaker 1: and he was not in a losing effort quarterback. He

752
00:40:55,400 --> 00:40:57,640
Speaker 1: did not leave it all out on the field. He

753
00:40:57,680 --> 00:40:59,960
Speaker 1: did not play his best and just get out gunned

754
00:41:00,080 --> 00:41:04,799
Speaker 1: by somebody. He was the reason Auburn lost games or

755
00:41:04,880 --> 00:41:07,960
Speaker 1: almost lost games. And so that that is, that is

756
00:41:08,000 --> 00:41:08,479
Speaker 1: something that.

757
00:41:08,480 --> 00:41:11,279
Speaker 2: Needs to flip this year. That he is just a

758
00:41:11,320 --> 00:41:15,520
Speaker 2: bystander in a bad Auburn performance, not the one at

759
00:41:15,520 --> 00:41:16,440
Speaker 2: the front of the parade.

760
00:41:16,520 --> 00:41:20,960
Speaker 1: No more hoobastink, no more reason, thank you, we got

761
00:41:20,960 --> 00:41:23,200
Speaker 1: time for one more Dan. You get to pick Okay,

762
00:41:23,239 --> 00:41:25,560
Speaker 1: so you can choose from the following. You can choose

763
00:41:26,400 --> 00:41:31,400
Speaker 1: Desmond Ritter. You can choose Spencer Sanders, Ryan Halensky, Jack Cone,

764
00:41:31,920 --> 00:41:34,359
Speaker 1: Tyler Shuck who we we just don't know anything about.

765
00:41:34,400 --> 00:41:36,160
Speaker 1: That's that was the one wildcard I put in because

766
00:41:36,200 --> 00:41:40,480
Speaker 1: he's a duck. James Blackman who, I mean, any of

767
00:41:40,480 --> 00:41:44,040
Speaker 1: those guys stand out to you? Blackman does. But I

768
00:41:44,080 --> 00:41:46,080
Speaker 1: feel like I'm already on record.

769
00:41:46,560 --> 00:41:47,359
Speaker 2: I'm tapped out.

770
00:41:47,800 --> 00:41:53,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, I've seen enough on James Blackman and Spencer Sanders

771
00:41:53,680 --> 00:41:58,520
Speaker 1: is hurt. He had a freshman campaign that look, I

772
00:41:58,600 --> 00:42:00,960
Speaker 1: think going into the year made it pretty apparent that

773
00:42:01,640 --> 00:42:03,319
Speaker 1: a lot of the season was gonna hinde you what

774
00:42:03,320 --> 00:42:05,799
Speaker 1: he could do. And I haven't seen what the deal

775
00:42:05,880 --> 00:42:07,200
Speaker 1: is with his walking boot.

776
00:42:07,800 --> 00:42:13,200
Speaker 2: But you want to talk about King Cone. I have

777
00:42:13,280 --> 00:42:15,920
Speaker 2: some thoughts on Jack Cone. All right, Well, I think

778
00:42:15,920 --> 00:42:18,600
Speaker 2: he's pretty good. Give me your King Cone thoughts, go ahead.

779
00:42:19,120 --> 00:42:21,040
Speaker 2: I don't think he's ever going to be the reason

780
00:42:21,080 --> 00:42:25,360
Speaker 2: Wisconsin beats Ohio State. And if Paul christ is okay

781
00:42:25,400 --> 00:42:31,600
Speaker 2: with that, continue along. He had a program changing running

782
00:42:31,600 --> 00:42:33,839
Speaker 2: back behind him and next to him, and that's you know,

783
00:42:33,880 --> 00:42:36,080
Speaker 2: in a program that's had a ton of them. So

784
00:42:36,719 --> 00:42:40,560
Speaker 2: that running back and Jonathan Taylor tailback is gone. The

785
00:42:40,600 --> 00:42:45,359
Speaker 2: offensive line should again be good. There's experience there. Wisconsin's

786
00:42:45,400 --> 00:42:48,520
Speaker 2: never going to try to win downfield a ton and

787
00:42:48,640 --> 00:42:52,520
Speaker 2: Jack Cone completes a lot of his passes, and he

788
00:42:52,640 --> 00:42:55,800
Speaker 2: is seldom the reason they actually lose a game. Usually

789
00:42:55,800 --> 00:42:58,759
Speaker 2: they lose because of flukey reasons, or a team is

790
00:42:58,800 --> 00:43:02,000
Speaker 2: just more talented and just out wills them and outguns

791
00:43:02,040 --> 00:43:04,880
Speaker 2: them for four quarters. That's I mean, that's that's the

792
00:43:04,880 --> 00:43:08,799
Speaker 2: mark of a truly really strong program that Wisconsin clearly is.

793
00:43:08,840 --> 00:43:12,279
Speaker 2: It's a balance, it's a complete program. I am going

794
00:43:12,320 --> 00:43:15,280
Speaker 2: to be curious this year because he has a blue

795
00:43:15,360 --> 00:43:19,960
Speaker 2: chip next great QB at Wisconsin behind him on the

796
00:43:20,000 --> 00:43:24,279
Speaker 2: depth chart in Graham Mertz. That's Mertz, not arts. I

797
00:43:24,320 --> 00:43:28,279
Speaker 2: am curious to see if if they feel like what

798
00:43:28,480 --> 00:43:31,520
Speaker 2: they have outside of Jack Cone is good enough to

799
00:43:31,719 --> 00:43:34,680
Speaker 2: challenge for the conference title. They return. They've got a

800
00:43:34,719 --> 00:43:37,759
Speaker 2: lot upfront on defense, back, the secondary is in really

801
00:43:37,880 --> 00:43:40,640
Speaker 2: nice shape. They lose a couple of big time receivers,

802
00:43:40,719 --> 00:43:44,080
Speaker 2: led by what Quintes Cephis. They lose the biggest name

803
00:43:44,120 --> 00:43:47,960
Speaker 2: in the program and Jonathan Taylor tailback. But if they

804
00:43:48,000 --> 00:43:51,759
Speaker 2: feel like they're coming together nicely, I'm curious to see

805
00:43:51,800 --> 00:43:55,440
Speaker 2: how much run Graham Mertz gets if they believe he

806
00:43:55,680 --> 00:43:59,359
Speaker 2: is that next step quarterback. That to me is fascinating.

807
00:43:59,480 --> 00:44:02,480
Speaker 2: We've seen it happened before. We've seen it happen before

808
00:44:02,520 --> 00:44:05,120
Speaker 2: where we know what with Kelly Bryant, say at Clemson,

809
00:44:05,120 --> 00:44:09,239
Speaker 2: Where's like Trevor Lawrence is getting us above Alabama and

810
00:44:09,320 --> 00:44:12,720
Speaker 2: Kelly Bryan has taken us far, but we have somebody

811
00:44:12,800 --> 00:44:16,080
Speaker 2: special ready to take us to another level. I'm curious

812
00:44:16,160 --> 00:44:19,320
Speaker 2: to see how much action Grammartz gets if they feel

813
00:44:19,360 --> 00:44:22,880
Speaker 2: like that's who he is. No, I think that's fair.

814
00:44:22,920 --> 00:44:28,480
Speaker 1: And I think I sold Jack Cone short last year

815
00:44:29,000 --> 00:44:32,480
Speaker 1: because in the bit that we had seen him in

816
00:44:32,520 --> 00:44:35,040
Speaker 1: the twenty eighteen campaign, I was very underwhelmed.

817
00:44:35,920 --> 00:44:37,719
Speaker 2: But yeah, that's first year guy.

818
00:44:37,800 --> 00:44:41,479
Speaker 1: Yeah, first year guy. He did improve last season for sure,

819
00:44:42,320 --> 00:44:45,799
Speaker 1: and so that's on me for maybe not giving him

820
00:44:45,800 --> 00:44:48,800
Speaker 1: his due. But I do think there is a glass

821
00:44:48,800 --> 00:44:52,359
Speaker 1: ceiling quality to what he can provide.

822
00:44:52,520 --> 00:44:55,160
Speaker 2: He was awesome against Minnesota last year on the road

823
00:44:55,200 --> 00:45:00,279
Speaker 2: in a decisive victory. No, I mean he has I

824
00:45:00,320 --> 00:45:02,120
Speaker 2: think a little bit of that in him. I don't

825
00:45:02,160 --> 00:45:07,279
Speaker 2: know if we've fully gotten to his full potential, but

826
00:45:08,600 --> 00:45:13,799
Speaker 2: it will be interesting to watch with Graham Burts the Salies. Yeah,

827
00:45:13,840 --> 00:45:16,839
Speaker 2: I mean, he's just it's just that level thing. It's

828
00:45:16,880 --> 00:45:20,719
Speaker 2: a pretty good ceiling. But what does Wisconsin have designs

829
00:45:20,760 --> 00:45:24,120
Speaker 2: of He struggled against Oregon and certainly against Ohio State twice.

830
00:45:24,960 --> 00:45:28,920
Speaker 2: So yeah, I think we know who Jack Cone is.

831
00:45:29,080 --> 00:45:31,880
Speaker 2: It's a matter of how much is the rest of

832
00:45:31,920 --> 00:45:34,080
Speaker 2: the team around him. You know, what does the running

833
00:45:34,080 --> 00:45:37,080
Speaker 2: back position look like? With the giant vacuum that JTT

834
00:45:37,280 --> 00:45:41,520
Speaker 2: left behind. That to me is fascinating because there are pieces,

835
00:45:42,160 --> 00:45:46,240
Speaker 2: There are pieces in a short season, weird things happening.

836
00:45:47,040 --> 00:45:51,040
Speaker 2: Maybe this is the year where the Jack Cone Jamie

837
00:45:51,080 --> 00:45:55,200
Speaker 2: Moyer paint in the corners things works. But I don't know,

838
00:45:55,320 --> 00:45:58,480
Speaker 2: still seems like he has a definitive ceiling. I think

839
00:45:58,480 --> 00:45:58,960
Speaker 2: I'm with you.

840
00:45:59,200 --> 00:46:04,480
Speaker 1: And what's interesting I think about that Wisconsin offense is

841
00:46:04,520 --> 00:46:09,479
Speaker 1: it is so fundamental to having a good running game.

842
00:46:10,280 --> 00:46:12,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a good offense for a quarterback. You're just

843
00:46:13,000 --> 00:46:14,759
Speaker 2: because of play action, because of the focus on the

844
00:46:14,800 --> 00:46:17,920
Speaker 2: running game, they're going to be open passing lanes.

845
00:46:18,040 --> 00:46:22,200
Speaker 1: That offense is always loaded in terms of the ground attack.

846
00:46:22,360 --> 00:46:26,400
Speaker 1: And we've seen a few instances over the years, and

847
00:46:26,480 --> 00:46:29,160
Speaker 1: I guess the Russell Wilson instance would probably be the

848
00:46:29,160 --> 00:46:33,200
Speaker 1: most telling. But Russ had like thirty three touchdowns in

849
00:46:33,239 --> 00:46:40,719
Speaker 1: that offense, was a Heisman contender obviously, Yeah, different iteration, right,

850
00:46:40,880 --> 00:46:44,680
Speaker 1: and now at a top flight NFL quarterback, right, Like,

851
00:46:44,719 --> 00:46:47,200
Speaker 1: these guys don't grow on trees. But my only what

852
00:46:47,400 --> 00:46:48,240
Speaker 1: is he might be the MVP?

853
00:46:48,480 --> 00:46:50,360
Speaker 2: Right? Is that a thing that I've I've heard so

854
00:46:50,480 --> 00:46:53,279
Speaker 2: far He's had an incredibly ear Okay, but my only

855
00:46:53,320 --> 00:46:56,879
Speaker 2: point is if you put a really good quarterback who

856
00:46:56,920 --> 00:46:59,000
Speaker 2: can throw and can do all the things that Russ

857
00:46:59,040 --> 00:47:02,080
Speaker 2: did in a system like that, you're right.

858
00:47:02,120 --> 00:47:04,960
Speaker 1: It's a great program, great program for a quarterback. Don't

859
00:47:04,960 --> 00:47:07,840
Speaker 1: know if Coen has all of those tools in the arsenal,

860
00:47:07,880 --> 00:47:10,919
Speaker 1: but you can get a little bit better. It makes

861
00:47:10,920 --> 00:47:12,920
Speaker 1: that team really really stout, and.

862
00:47:12,880 --> 00:47:15,240
Speaker 2: It's one that I don't think gets enough credit for

863
00:47:15,840 --> 00:47:19,040
Speaker 2: taking some steps forward to evolve. They're not just lining

864
00:47:19,080 --> 00:47:21,080
Speaker 2: up a full back and a tailback in the eye

865
00:47:21,120 --> 00:47:24,279
Speaker 2: and just slamming in for four or five yards. It

866
00:47:24,320 --> 00:47:28,760
Speaker 2: does feel like that sometimes. If it does, they've gotten

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Speaker 2: more creative. They've dallied with they've had alliances with the RPO,

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Speaker 2: with the spread, they they have gotten more creative over

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Speaker 2: the years, but they have just developed, I mean in

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Speaker 2: impressive way, that reputation for power football and developing offensive lineman,

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Speaker 2: that smash mouth element. But I do think that they've

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Speaker 2: keep ending up in Big Ten championship games. So they're

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Speaker 2: doing something right. And so I'm just curious to see

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Speaker 2: if if Paul christ if whoever has the cajones, if

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Speaker 2: push comes to shove to say, this guy actually gives

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Speaker 1: All right, Well, fun topic right in again, Solid verbal

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Speaker 1: at gmail dot com. Let us know your thoughts on

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Speaker 1: these quarterbacks and others. Maybe that we left off the

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Speaker 1: list on our ultraviolet Friday orbit, Dan, we.

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Speaker 2: Got to get you to that observatory or the Penn

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Speaker 2: State whoever is controlling the satellite telescope stuff. That's the

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Speaker 2: field trip we need. I need to know if there's

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Speaker 2: a joystick involved. Well, first we got to get to Hawaii,

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Speaker 2: we do. First, we got to get to the man

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Speaker 2: Laya observatory up there. What was that the kek kek?

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Speaker 2: And then we can we can make our move to

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Speaker 2: State College and see.

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Speaker 1: Don't you feel like you should be into the Keck

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Speaker 1: Observatory though, like start smaller at Penn State.

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Speaker 2: I guess, but we shouted out Keck first, so I

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Speaker 2: think they deserve priority.

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Speaker 1: We don't want a Max dug In situation where we

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Speaker 1: step up to the big leagues before we're ready.

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Speaker 2: That's true. Okay, so we'll get you on that joystick

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Speaker 2: at in State College.

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Speaker 2: We're gonna hang up now and do a video Dan

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Speaker 2: the Yeah, we're gonna do our Brune Brune crack, open

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Speaker 1: This week, I believe now talking about bathroom emergencies at

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Speaker 1: thirty thousand feet correct.

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Speaker 2: That is correct. And bless any flight attendant trying to

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Speaker 2: stand in his way when he's not supposed to be

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Speaker 2: standing up and in the aisle because he has an emergency.

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Speaker 2: Bless him for.

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Speaker 1: That guy over there, my good friend Dan Rubinstein, from myself,

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Speaker 1: Ty hilden Brandt, enjoy the week of games. Call in

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Speaker 1: to make you part of our show in the meantime.

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Speaker 1: We will catch you all on Sunday and meantimes.

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Speaker 2: Stay solid, peace,